1 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:31,440 Music. Hi, everybody. 2 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,240 Welcome to the Back Story Podcast. 3 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,600 I'm honored to be with you here today. 4 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,040 Today as as part of what we've been doing lately, has been 5 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,600 interviewing people who've been doing the work, who've I've been 6 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,080 out there in the trenches doing the work in a lot of different 7 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,200 ways. And one of these people is 8 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,240 somebody I'm very proud to have known for quite a few years. 9 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,640 Andy Santo Pietro has been doing the work in so many different 10 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,920 ways. It's absolutely incredible. 11 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,920 And I wanted to bring him on here today and kind of let him 12 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,960 tell a little bit his story and what's going on with with Andy. 13 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,200 Andy, welcome. Hi, welcome. 14 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,120 Thank you. Thank you. 15 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,000 Glad you're here with us today. So you, you do quite a bit of 16 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,760 work. Tell me, tell me a little bit 17 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,560 about. Well, I, I, for instance, I know 18 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,800 the book you've, you've written an incredible book. 19 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,320 What is about a year and a half ago? 20 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,320 Yeah, about a year and a half ago. 21 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,120 Incredible book about the 5D human, the new 5D human. 22 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,600 Really interesting the way you put things in the way that you 23 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,360 conceive things about it. And of course, it ties in a lot 24 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,800 with what the group's been talking about the 5th dimension. 25 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,280 They, we kind of backed off about talking about the 5th 26 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,400 dimension a little bit because they're frustrated. 27 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,400 They say you guys have been in the 5th dimension for a long 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,040 time and you're still using third dimensional rules, you 29 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,680 know, so, so anyway, it's, I'm, I'm very thrilled to see 30 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,840 somebody pick up the ball and really, really do some 31 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,880 descriptive work about the 5th dimension, how things are 32 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,680 different, how things apply differently and so forth. 33 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,520 So how'd you get started with that? 34 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:12,920 Tell me well. My mentor, you, I mean, it's 35 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:20,840 your fault I started following your your newsletters early 2000 36 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,600 and you know, it's been a romance. 37 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,520 I've been I grabbed onto your coattails since early 2000. 38 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:35,480 We're in almost 25 years of this and you really initially brought 39 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,760 my work to such a different level because you expanded my 40 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,240 consciousness. And no, I didn't know that's the 41 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,600 direction I was going to go. And even though I was in the 42 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,040 world of spirituality and spiritual healing, and mainly my 43 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,760 first two books before we connected was on Feng shui 44 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,920 design and the spirituality of Feng shui. 45 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,080 So when you came along and you started discussing some of the 46 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:08,680 5D, you know, concepts, it, it, it opened up what I was doing to 47 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,080 a whole new level and I started looking at my work and my 48 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,040 purpose here. You know, not only my work, but 49 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,280 my, my individual purpose here on a dimensional level. 50 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:28,680 I think that was the big shift for me that I was expanding, but 51 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,320 I was, I was playing on the same game board, you know, and I was 52 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,160 moving the chess pieces around. And as I became more and more 53 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,360 exposed to the dimension and truly with you and Barbara 54 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:49,280 leading the way with that it, I realized, oh boy, I think I have 55 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,520 jumped to another game board and it's a brand new game. 56 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:58,080 And I had no idea how to play this, this game of Earth Chess. 57 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,720 Earth chess, I love that. You know, I like, well, what is 58 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,520 this? So at the first I was very 59 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,040 excited about it and then I was extremely stressed about it. 60 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,240 And I'm still stressed about it because I'm part of, you know, 61 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,360 my humanness here. There's. 62 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,640 Nothing, you know, there's nothing here, nothing close. 63 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,160 And in my opinion you've really presented us if there was ever 64 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,800 such a handbook in piece meal, you've been feeding that to us 65 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,400 little by little in ways that we can actually absorb it. 66 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:39,080 And with with that, it sort of launched me head on into 5th 67 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,400 dimensional work and helping people with the ascension of 68 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:48,120 being 1/5 a 5D person living in a 3D World. 69 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,720 That is the umbrella that all my counseling and books and classes 70 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,720 fall under. So tell me a little bit about 71 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,360 that. You do counseling, you do. 72 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,680 Do you do regular counseling where you see people or is it 73 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:00,720 online? How does it? 74 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,880 How does it work for you? At this point it's on, it's 75 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,080 online. My background is as a social 76 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,240 worker, so my degrees are in therapy and social work, and I 77 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,000 have an undergraduate degree in special education. 78 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:20,880 So I already started off doing therapy work or in the realm of 79 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,760 therapy. And very early in the 80s, I was 80 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:30,240 introduced to the chakra energy system and I got very involved 81 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,840 in the psychology of the chakras and I started putting together 82 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,440 my therapy work with my chakra work and I called it 83 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,200 chakracology. And perfect. 84 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,720 That was my private practice for most of 1015 years. 85 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:51,000 People came and I was expanding on the psychology of who they 86 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 are and looking at who they were, spiritual beings and 87 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,320 energetic beings. And then Feng shui came into my 88 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,960 life and it expanded even further because I started 89 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,920 looking at how the energy of the environmental 1's home 90 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,280 interplays with that human, you know, living in that space. 91 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,240 And, and then that's where a couple of my books came and then 92 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,520 you showed up and I was like, huh, I just exhaled. 93 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,520 Now I have, I thought I was going to be doing just this for 94 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,520 the rest of my, you know, career. 95 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,640 And then good old Steve comes along and drops this 5D bomb 96 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,600 and, and, and off to the races I went and you know, here we are 97 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:39,040 and that's I, I realized that we have a lot of people and I, and 98 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,800 you probably agree with this. Who and the group sound? 99 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,320 Based on what you said, the group was probably nodding their 100 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,560 head. We've already evolved. 101 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,000 We are in 5D. It's official, you know. 102 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,040 Oh yeah. But most of us hasn't. 103 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,320 We haven't woken up to the fact we're there, you know, We're 104 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:03,880 still sleepwalking through our 3D life and acting as if that 105 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,640 shift hasn't happened. And that all has to do with not 106 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,280 denying it or not wanting to be a 5D individual, but it has to 107 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,720 do with that shift in that bump in consciousness, True. 108 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,240 And then all that comes with it. Because it's not an easy ride to 109 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,120 wake up. No, it isn't. 110 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,720 No, it means being more vulnerable. 111 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,280 It means it means a lot of things that people are very 112 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,520 hesitant to do. We feel we built our safe little 113 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,920 worlds, our safe little environment here in the third 114 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,960 dimensional area. And then the 5th dimension comes 115 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,160 along. Everybody's in the 5th 116 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,440 dimension, but we keep using these third dimensional rules 117 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,320 and ideas and so forth to be able to do that. 118 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,880 And we're, we're changing. I don't want to say we're not. 119 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,880 We're, we're evolving very well. And, and largely thanks to 120 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,040 people like you who write books about it, who take this in 121 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,840 energy in several areas or, and to be clear, Barb and I and the 122 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,560 group did not originate the idea of 5th dimension that's been 123 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,680 talked about for quite some time. 124 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,920 But the actual countdown to it and the actual energy around it 125 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,600 was very magical, absolutely magical. 126 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,600 So you did, you did counseling for a while. 127 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,520 You moved into the counseling. When did you write the first 128 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,840 book? My first book was written in 129 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:31,080 971997 and the second book was in 20, 2004. 130 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,280 It came out, I actually wrote it in 2002, but it got published 131 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,000 finally in in 2004. And that was overlapping. 132 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,560 That was overlapping my time. And yeah, no, maybe you, it's 133 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:51,000 fair to say you didn't coin 5D. But I think the difference, if I 134 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,000 may, about your work and your timing of your work, I'm going 135 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,400 to correct you a little bit, is that 5D, as you said, have been 136 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:07,240 spoken about for eons, you know, and a lot of people, I take that 137 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,120 back, many souls on the planet were living a 5D life. 138 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:19,280 But the 2000 era where you sort of came into your work and your 139 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:24,480 delivery of your path and this mission, what was different 140 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:31,000 about that is that the collective was moving towards 5D 141 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:35,560 chunks of the collective, not individuals who were highly 142 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:38,640 evolved on the planet and already ahead of the game. 143 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:44,560 So, and, and it was, you know, I remember, and I still do with a 144 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:49,840 lot of your talks in classes, which I take is that I was going 145 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:54,400 from newsletter to newsletter waiting for the day that you 146 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,800 release the next newsletter because we were all on pins and 147 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,800 needles knowing something massive was happening. 148 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,760 And it was not only wonderful, it was scary. 149 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,480 And it still is because I think, you know, when you were, when 150 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:15,400 you were addressing, hey, you know, why are we still doing a 151 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:21,240 3D dance when we have this expanded, you know, this, this 152 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:26,280 whole, you know, orchestra 5D, beautiful skills, new stuff. 153 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:32,040 And in my opinion, I think people underestimate 3 DI think 154 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:38,760 out of the three dimensions that the majority of us are moving in 155 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,160 and out of. And that's just my definition of 156 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,440 multi dimensionality here on the planet. 157 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:50,720 I don't I, I know we're in 5D, but we as humans, every second 158 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:55,360 of the day bounce in three 4th and 5th dimension. 159 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,280 We move in and out of those those dimensions all the time. 160 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,880 That's multidimensionality. That's what's more challenging 161 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:08,560 if we would just up in 5D and that was the only dimension. 162 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:10,000 And that's what we were born into. 163 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,840 And that's what will die in our kids in the next generation or, 164 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,680 you know, however the earth is going to be around. 165 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:22,120 We would be treating it like we the whole hum of 3D. 166 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:27,920 The reason why 3D became so familiar to us is because the IT 167 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:33,720 was the longest existing dimension of all the dimensions. 168 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:41,480 So 3D happens to be the most limiting and oppressive, but it 169 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:48,080 and, and, but it's the dimension that was the easiest to navigate 170 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,080 because if you liked it or not, you knew your place, you knew 171 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,120 your gender, you know what was expected of you as a woman, as a 172 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,760 man. I'm not promoting that or saying 173 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,800 I'm so glad we grew from that. But even if you didn't like it, 174 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,680 the guardrails were there. That's. 175 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,280 True. And you had to live within it. 176 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,760 But what the the most tumultuous, in my opinion, 177 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:21,560 dimension on the planet now is 4D4D is not spoken of enough, 178 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,840 but it's really the dimension that's running circles around 179 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,600 us. It's the shortest stay, but it 180 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,960 does the biggest upheaval towards change, yes. 181 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,240 Well, it has to be, has to be there. 182 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,000 We won't be able to move exactly. 183 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,200 We have to have to go through it to get the imprints of the 4th 184 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,200 dimension to live firmly in the 5th dimension. 185 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,760 So yeah, absolutely, it's all, it's all part of it. 186 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,320 And the third dimension, like you said to, to me anyway. 187 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,160 And from what the group has shared with me, what's part of 188 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,200 the challenges? We built so much for so long in 189 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,520 the third dimension, Even all of our systems, which the group 190 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,800 says we're starting to have some challenges with our banking 191 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,200 systems, our communication systems, everything that we 192 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,480 built originally was built, yeah, there was built in the 193 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,720 third dimension. And now we're starting to open 194 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,200 up and the technology is moving very quickly because of it. 195 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,040 So yeah. No, I, I, I agree with that. 196 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:26,000 And I think that's why it's so important what I'm seeing in my, 197 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,880 my work and my practice and with my friends and my, myself. 198 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,960 You know, I'm not above this by all means. 199 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,480 You know, they say you teach what you need to learn. 200 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:36,920 So I. Hate that, right? 201 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,480 You know, but that's true. For me it is true. 202 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,920 No, it's absolutely true. It's keeping me grounded, you 203 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,480 know, every day I need this every day. 204 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,880 That's why they stuck me in the front of the line with this, 205 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,400 because they're like, oh, I'm going to be a handful if I, if I 206 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:57,480 fall behind, you know. But my, my, my feeling is that 207 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:04,080 what has happened, like any other concept, you know, and you 208 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:10,360 can take this from technology, medicine, you can take it down 209 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,160 to typing, you know, if you don't know how to do it, it's 210 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,200 scary, right? And if you don't understand the 211 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,600 mechanisms on how to learn it, then you feel impotent. 212 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,960 You feel like you're falling behind. 213 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,480 You feel like you lost your mojo. 214 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:35,840 And what I have found with a lot of my clients and, and even some 215 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,560 of the journey that I was on is out of that confusion of the 216 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:49,440 actual sort of the advancement consciously that that we move 217 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:54,960 towards going into 5D. It left us so disarmed and not 218 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,520 even knowing what happened that you that many people start 219 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,200 internalizing it where the confusion lowers their self 220 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,360 worth, their self esteem. I'm probably not good at what I 221 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:13,360 do, God forgot about me, and a lot of great people who are 222 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,280 involved are getting caught in the undertow of how they 223 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,880 internalize the not understanding of the transition. 224 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,920 That, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. 225 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,160 That's what the group calls the bodysuit. 226 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,560 Basically, the avatar is basically who we think we are. 227 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,120 We do that. That part has to change a lot in 228 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,240 order for us to really anchor some of the new attributes of of 229 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,480 all the dimensions that we're in right now. 230 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,960 Because it is a scary time. And that's why I think we, I 231 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,640 think it's part of the reason we're seeing so much incredible 232 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,080 division on the planet is because people have feel the 233 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,880 change naturally, people resist change. 234 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,160 They want to go back to the good old days, even though the good 235 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,600 old days weren't really that good. 236 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,400 They, you know, we have, we always have our memories about 237 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,680 putting our, our good memories in the back and, and, and 238 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,080 projecting toward the future. So it's, it's kind of an 239 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,600 interesting process that we play with it. 240 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,560 That's amazing. So tell me about, tell me about 241 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,040 the rest of your work. You do sessions, you also do you 242 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,800 also do classes? Do you not? 243 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:19,760 Do you? Do you teach classes? 244 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,400 Yeah, I do. I do regular series of classes 245 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:29,800 and actually the last, the last year we focused on the 246 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:36,400 spirituality of money, which was really, it was an amazing 247 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,360 process to go through. And I on purpose use the word 248 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:41,440 money. Yeah. 249 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,480 And I'll, and I'll tell you why, because we tend to trip over our 250 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,760 spiritual feet, right? We use prosperity abundance, but 251 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:50,640 I don't know. About you. 252 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,880 In my house, my father never used that word when he was 253 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,720 talking about being short. You know, my father didn't go, 254 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,640 hey, we're a little short on abundance. 255 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,160 This. Week you're. 256 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,640 Not going to that movie, kid. My father was like, hey, I don't 257 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,960 have the money this week. You're not an Italian father, 258 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,880 you know? And money carries the thought 259 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,960 form. So we become these spiritual 260 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,280 beings and we start talking around the thing that we're most 261 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,520 confused about and we learned it as the word money. 262 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,760 And then we go, you know, I have to learn how to be prosperous 263 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,440 and spiritual. And our subconscious mind, like 264 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,040 we have no judgment about those two words. 265 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,680 We have judgment about the MONEY word because that's what our 266 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:41,480 culture and our society use. So on purpose, I over exaggerate 267 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,960 and work with how do you feel about money? 268 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,720 What's your relationship with money? 269 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,600 And what are the thought forms attached to money? 270 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,960 And how can we work on transmuting them and creating a 271 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,920 safe space where that part of your brain that feels panicked 272 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,360 around it can actually go back to calling it money so we can 273 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:02,640 understand what's really going on under the hood. 274 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,360 So, you know, that's, that's a lot of my work in helping 275 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:15,200 people, not telling them what to think, but teaching them how to 276 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,960 think differently. Give them the ideas, plant the 277 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,120 seeds and put them in fertile ground and they'll grow. 278 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,400 Absolutely. That's that's the magic of it 279 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,960 all. So that's incredible. 280 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,160 Do you do in person seminars as well? 281 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,360 Yes, I did COVID kind of, you know, like I'm sure you 282 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,800 understand, just hijacked life as we knew it. 283 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:40,640 But during COVID is when I wrote this book, so I had no 284 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,240 intentions of writing a third book. 285 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,280 And I have a whole chapter in the book, in the 5D human book 286 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,960 about COVID and the bigger picture of why it was here. 287 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:55,160 And it was actually part, you know, as you've said and and 288 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,000 group has discussed, it's actually part of our ascension 289 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,840 period. I, I feel like, you know, when 290 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,400 I, I know there's nothing funny about COVID, so I don't want to 291 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,960 come across as insensitive, but I always saw the bigger picture 292 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,880 of it as the universe saying I'm giving the whole world time out. 293 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,920 You guys don't know how to play with one another. 294 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,200 Your whole, you know, economy systems are out of control, 295 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,360 right? The the, the feminine and 296 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:26,280 masculine aspects and everybody get in your house. 297 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,440 Nobody's going out to play for a. 298 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,600 Month. That's a great way to. 299 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:31,880 From. School. 300 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,280 That's a great way to put it, though. 301 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,400 I love the I love the overview that you have on pretty much 302 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,640 everything. You you see the larger picture 303 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:39,840 to it. It's really kind of neat. 304 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,640 Wonderful to see that way. We were just totally out of 305 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,120 control. The universe didn't know what to 306 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:45,840 do. With us. 307 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,880 Totally agree with you. Everybody said that's it until 308 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,280 we get this right. You know, and everything's 309 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,320 changed. I mean, even the technology has 310 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,320 evolved in different ways. We've learned to communicate in 311 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,640 different ways. Even though COVID is in the 312 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,320 background, it's still here with us. 313 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,800 But it's not not killing people the way it used to and all the 314 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,360 rest of it. And of course, we had all the 315 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:08,160 conspiracy theories that surface around it and so forth. 316 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,240 But the reality is, we dealt pretty. 317 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,400 Good with that we we integrated that piece, which was very 318 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,400 difficult to do, but it also helped us change our physical 319 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,920 bodies. So you know, some of the 320 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,720 evolution that we've gone through with that is it it did 321 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,520 serve a higher purpose. So that's amazing. 322 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,320 So you, you're, you're doing all of it. 323 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,280 Basically you're you're doing in person seminars, you're doing 324 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,560 online, you're doing the coaching awesome work and you're 325 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,800 an author. I just I'm so proud of you, 326 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,760 Andy. It's just. 327 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,280 Thank you for that, you know, and. 328 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,360 Thank you for being. Such an incredible mentor to me. 329 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,920 For decades, you know you've, you've been the voice in the 330 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,440 back of my head, your teachings, the group. 331 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,120 Barbara and everything that you've brought forward and I, 332 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,120 it's my humble, you know, it's mine to own. 333 00:20:58,120 --> 00:21:01,040 I I am very grateful. When, if I remember right, I 334 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,560 think the last time we were together was in Sedona, we had. 335 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,320 In Sedona, yeah. We had a we had a seminar in 336 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,280 Sedona that you came to see and we we were able to connect you 337 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,480 with some other people. It's very magical. 338 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,800 That was, they always are, but you know, they just keep getting 339 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,000 better. So the last one was better than 340 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,600 the one before and the one before. 341 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,400 So yeah, that was very special. And yeah. 342 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,600 And, and I think with COVID, I just want to touch on this 343 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:33,840 because it is a background, you know, my feeling is especially 344 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,640 my work is around the shadow. And that's a lot of what the 345 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,280 book is. And shadow not in the pejorative 346 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,400 sense, it being bad or negative, but it's the unknown, the 347 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,600 unconscious. And we not only personally have 348 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,960 shadow, the dimensions have shadow. 349 00:21:54,200 --> 00:22:02,440 And as we were leaving 3D and going in, you know, to 4th 350 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,640 dimension and then into 5th dimension. 351 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:14,440 What got kicked up not for chaos but for transmutation as the 352 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,880 remaining shadow of thought form around all the things you name 353 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,400 that were three, you know, 3D related. 354 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:29,280 So when COVID came along for the first time across the universe, 355 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,560 and This is why it's never happened before, is that for the 356 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:37,560 first time across the universe, everybody was scared together. 357 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,720 Everybody was able in their own way. 358 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,000 It might have been finances or health or what's going to happen 359 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,640 next. But for the first time, it got 360 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,400 neutralized. That fear wasn't something 361 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,680 humans should be ashamed of or humiliated by. 362 00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:00,560 And the fear came up and it it united us in a collective 363 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,360 emotion that was very based in 3D teachings because of 364 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,120 opposites and duality. So it acted, the virus 365 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:14,520 inadvertently acted as a poultice and it pulled up the 366 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:21,760 fear in a massive sweep across the planet, which is enabling us 367 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:26,320 to be steady our rudders much more in 5D. 368 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,040 Because you don't have fear in 5G, what you do have is 369 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,160 remaining fear that we are transmuting through. 370 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:40,040 But 5D consciousness is not based on opposites, it's based 371 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,960 on triality. There's no duality in it. 372 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,400 That's correct. That is, that is exactly it. 373 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,080 That's it. That's an important point. 374 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,080 Yes. We actually, when we look back 375 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,200 at COVID, I think we're going to see that we gained more than we 376 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,960 lost. The group actually predicted 377 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,240 almost a year in advance that there would be coming a time 378 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,600 fairly soon where we would be losing a lot of people. 379 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,160 And it wasn't, it wasn't a bad thing either. 380 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,040 They basically said there's certain people that want to go 381 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,520 home before the next wave of energy comes in and, and this 382 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,480 will be an opportunity for them to do that. 383 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,320 Some of them know it, some of them don't. 384 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,320 The reality is we're going to have a lot of people leaving the 385 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,560 planet. And just before that, we had a 386 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:29,000 massive exodus of, of animals leaving the planet, largely in 387 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,880 Australia and different places where a lot of these viruses 388 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,360 went through things and just kind of wiped out animals. 389 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,320 And we, of course, we're too busy with ourselves to really 390 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,720 pay attention to that. But it was a whole reset of the 391 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,160 animal Kingdom in a lot of different ways. 392 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,040 It was really fascinating to see in different ways. 393 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,720 OK, we've got this. You've got an excellent way of 394 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,920 being able to see the overview of things. 395 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,960 I got to ask you about politics. I know you talk about politics. 396 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,440 I know that's part of where it is. 397 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,440 Tell me, tell me the overview that you have with politics and 398 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,080 and the spirituality of politics. 399 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,280 Oh boy. OK, that's a mouthful. 400 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,960 I really love talking about politics. 401 00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:20,840 Not, you know, because I think it's important we make 402 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,000 assumptions and I do all the time. 403 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,840 And my assumptions are if you are somewhat evolved, whatever 404 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,520 that means, you know, I'm using that word loosely. 405 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,880 But if you have enough interest in taking type of classes you 406 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,920 teach and following this, these kind of teachings, there's a 407 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,280 part of you that wants to grow, wants to understand, you know, 408 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,240 you know, it's a, it's, it's a very elite group. 409 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,600 You know that we we preach to the choir, right? 410 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,720 That's what I always used to tell Barbara, I said. 411 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,000 I can't hold any secrets here because I'm working in front of 412 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,240 a room full of psychics. You. 413 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,920 Know. You just got to tell it like it 414 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,080 is, that's all. That's it. 415 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:08,760 There's, you know, and we're preaching to the choir and 416 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,640 they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And what I found is a lot of 417 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:18,720 surprises along the way. How people that maybe I'm 418 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,600 generalizing, you know, I'll, you know, I'll take that hit. 419 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,080 But many people who are spiritual tend to back away from 420 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,840 politics because they see it beneath their spirituality 421 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,760 because it's so convoluted and it's really gotten disgusting. 422 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,160 And you know, everybody's fighting with everybody and 423 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,800 there's division and all we want is love and peace. 424 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:49,160 And what got my attention about that is I'm, I'm an old timer 425 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:57,080 from Lemuria like you, you know, and in Lemuria, we have to 426 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:04,520 remember that Lemuria was the closest we've come to, you know, 427 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,440 that we could at least, you know, reflect back towards 428 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:15,320 something tangible that where we came very close to this Earth 429 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,600 ascension and how evolved we were in so many ways, we were 430 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:26,720 reaching that apex. But one of the miscalculations 431 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:33,920 in Lemuria was that we thought we had enough light and that 432 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:39,400 light would overcome any darkness and any negativity and 433 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,080 passivity and love was the way. Well, we know how that turned 434 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,760 out. Didn't quite work the way we 435 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,520 thought. No, no. 436 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,280 No, no, no, no. It was like a little off on 437 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,440 miscalculation. The heart was in the right 438 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,800 place, execution and not. So good. 439 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,800 That's exactly it. That's exactly it all. 440 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,040 Right. So we're here now. 441 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,120 And the majority of people that are on the planet right now, in 442 00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:11,080 my humble, narrow opinion, are from Lemuria and Atlantis and we 443 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,920 are all back here and we're getting another shot right now. 444 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,640 Do this again and not rest on our morals and not hide behind 445 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,800 our big hearts and our spirituality and put more damn 446 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:31,160 skin in the game because we cannot sit this one out. 447 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:36,760 Not because it's morally wrong. Politically we're going to wind 448 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,040 up with the wrong person. Please don't do this. 449 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,680 What about humanity and values? It's none of that. 450 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:48,000 It's a personal karmic opportunity not to lean back and 451 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,600 take the soul's assignment of part of why you were dropped 452 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:59,080 here during this time on the planet and move into an 453 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:05,040 actionable desires versus just meditation, prayer and talk. 454 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,440 Really put it into use. And that is one of the ways we 455 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,760 can put it into use. Absolutely. 456 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,480 Become involved with it. Yeah. 457 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,720 It's interesting. They, the group talked about 458 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,960 Lamoria and they talked about the the government of Lamoria, 459 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,800 which they said was really kind of interesting because these 460 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,040 were true public servants. They were more responsible for 461 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,480 making sure the trash was taken out and dealt with. 462 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,480 And then they were for international relationships or, 463 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,640 or strength of their defense systems or things of that 464 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,800 nature. So it was it, it was a different 465 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,360 process entirely to do that. And I'd love to see us return to 466 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,840 some of that. I think we're, I think we're 467 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,840 heading in that way. I do, I think we're again in the 468 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,600 5th dimension, trying to still hang on to old, the third 469 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,400 dimensional stuff and being able to pull back and, and being 470 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,000 afraid of the change and every other aspect. 471 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,880 I think that's all playing out right now in our politics in a 472 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,680 lot of different ways. And I will tell you the, the 473 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,600 entire world is watching the United States right now because 474 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,760 it's going to be affected by what takes place in the near 475 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,480 future. So absolutely. 476 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,680 I agree. What the United States does, the 477 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:25,400 world follows and we have that responsibility and it is quite a 478 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:32,360 gift if we are willing to step into the responsibility of the 479 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,400 power. And when we step back and, and I 480 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,240 think, you know, because politics has become such a hot 481 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,360 topic and, and I and I speak for myself always first. 482 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,760 And everybody's gone out of their way not to sound partial 483 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,280 and not to pick a side. And, and that is just to me, 484 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,760 nonsense. That's like, you know, 485 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,480 whitewashing something, You know, it's like having a crazy 486 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,920 friggin uncle, you know, that walks around with his pants off 487 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,360 and nobody wants to say anything at Christmas dinner. 488 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,720 Because. They don't set the apple cart 489 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,040 and you know it it. That's not OK in a family and 490 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:22,200 it's not OK in the world. And I don't think neutrality is 491 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,320 the goal. I no, I I definitely don't think 492 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,280 so. I I don't. 493 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,560 Think so and I think it would be a very big mistake for people 494 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,160 who are intrinsically want change and on on a spiritual 495 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:46,200 path to buy that thought form or and hide behind it because we 496 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,400 need everybody on the plane. We really do for this game. 497 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,880 We really do. You know, The group talked about 498 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,080 a time when after actually after Atlanta sank, after Lamoria sank 499 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,040 and after Atlanta sank, that there came a time where we 500 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,120 stopped time and we had a grand meeting of all the spirits. 501 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,480 And we all decided if we were ever able to get humanity to a 502 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,080 high enough level that we would all jump back in and try to make 503 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,080 it past the the goal. Mark, I think we're here. 504 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,880 That's exactly what you said earlier. 505 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,800 Most of people that are here are from Lamoria or Atlantis. 506 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:26,240 Most people and personally I, I, I didn't resonate as much with 507 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,480 Atlantis. The group told me I was partly 508 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,240 responsible for some of the problems. 509 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,360 So I probably, I probably blocked it a little bit. 510 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,240 That's why I'm doing this work now. 511 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,960 It's my mayor, Poopa. Exactly, I'll make. 512 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,000 It amends. Exactly. 513 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,480 But I boy, I have memories about Lamoria and the, the, the 514 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,360 interconnection with it. So, you know, if we all stand up 515 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,440 and take our stand, right or wrong, it doesn't make any 516 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,240 difference. We get involved, we ask the 517 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,480 questions, we do our research, we do our voting, we do all the 518 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,760 rest of it there and we get involved. 519 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,920 That can make a huge difference right now, more than ever before 520 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,880 on this planet. And I think that's part of 521 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,320 what's happened. We've seen this massive wave of 522 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,760 people come back in and be here at this time. 523 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,680 And that was really critical for all of this. 524 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,120 So tell us, tell us a little bit about how people would find you. 525 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,120 We're on a podcast, so you'll need to spell out your website 526 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,720 for us. Yeah. 527 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,840 Oh, thank you. Yeah, they can find me on my 528 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:39,480 website, which is Andy AND i.e. Santo Pietro SANTOP ietro.com 529 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,120 and from there they, they have contact forms where they can 530 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,320 reach me directly and find out, you know, get on my mailing 531 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,800 list, find out more about my classes by individual sessions. 532 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,920 And also I have a blog page and Instagram where they can follow 533 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,440 me. My my Instagram address is it's 534 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,640 not your mama's spirituality. Love that not your mama's 535 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,920 spirituality. I love that. 536 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,719 Is that the name of it? That's my Instagram. 537 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,400 Perfect. Perfect hashtag. 538 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,120 That's perfect. And, and we can do this really 539 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,040 tough work and look at these really hard things together. 540 00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:27,840 It doesn't have to be scary. We can laugh about it and follow 541 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,679 a lot of your very early and continued teachings about 542 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,280 responsibility and accountability. 543 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:41,080 Because without that, the soul is not very happy here, correct? 544 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,120 You know, Andy, Sante, Pietro, thank you so much for being with 545 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,360 us here today. I'm so proud of you. 546 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,520 I really am. The work you are doing is 547 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,800 incredible. I've seen your personal 548 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,280 struggles. We've we've talked together many 549 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,160 times on different things. You have really are a bright 550 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,000 light on this planet and I want to personally thank you for that 551 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:04,920 and. Steve, I love you very much and 552 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:11,040 I am so grateful to you personally and I am so happy 553 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,360 that you put yourself and followed your path and LED so 554 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,920 many people to this incredible place that we are right now. 555 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,680 Espavo. Espavo, Andy. 556 00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:27,600 Thank you, Mr. Thank you, Steve. All right. 557 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,720 And that does it for today's Back Story Podcast. 558 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,960 These are people that really have made a difference here in 559 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,960 the planet, and you're probably watching this because you're 560 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,240 probably one of those people. We hope we can spur you on a 561 00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:43,080 little bit to step into your power, to bring the 5th 562 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,760 dimension into your reality now and to stop using some of the 563 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,600 third dimensional rules that really don't work anymore. 564 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,840 Thanks for being with us here today. 565 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,240 A spa, everybody. This is the Back Story podcast. 566 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,360 I'm Steve Rother and we're at despavo.org. 567 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:26,320 Music.