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Hi everyone, welcome to a 
special edition of Mini Scroll 

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where instead of bringing you 
guys the biggest stories on the 

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Internet for today, I am 
bringing you an interview in 

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real life that I did last week 
with Real Housewives of Salt 

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Lake City stars Heather Gay and 
Whitney Rose. 

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Heather and Whitney were here in
Sydney during South by Southwest

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Sydney with Hey You to promote 
the new season. 

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Thank you so much to Hey You for
entrusting me with this 

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interview. 
I had the best time and I hope 

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you guys enjoy it. 
It's on the set, I feel like I 

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popped put in my teeth but my 
Botox has kicked in and so I 

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can't really lick my teeth. 
You how you're good. 

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I am so excited to be sitting 
here today with two of my 

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favorite Real Housewives from 
one of my favorite franchises, 

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Heather Gay and Whitney Rose 
from The Real Housewives of Salt

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Lake City. 
Welcome. 

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Thank. 
You for having us. 

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Thank you guys so much for 
joining me. 

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How are you enjoying Sydney? 
Obsessed literally want to move 

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here. 
This is the coolest place I've. 

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Ever like I. 
Did that, yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, no, I'm I might send for 

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the husband and children. 
I just Sydney is so amazing, so 

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many like we've had the best 
time. 

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I feel like a kinship with this 
country, like they see me, I see

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them. 
I like feel at home. 

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I feel accepted. 
So nice. 

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Yeah, everyone is so sweet. 
I moved from Canada 8 years ago 

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and I obviously never left. 
So you get. 

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I didn't. 
Even hear that you don't have an

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accent. 
Yeah. 

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Solidarity. 
Exactly. 

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As a viewer and a big fan of 
Housewives, I am curious to hear

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about your experience being on 
the show more generally, how it 

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influences your real life. 
Relationships, I think the best 

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way do you want to. 
Go first. 

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I was going to say what it's 
done is make the only 

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relationship that we have are 
the relationships on the show 

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because no one else can tolerate
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So it is like made these 
relationships become like even 

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more primal in our lives, you 
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Yeah, I was going to say the 
circle of friends has definitely

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gotten smaller. 
And you truly learn who's in 

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your life for a reason, a season
or a lifetime. 

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And it's hard that I think the 
more the show has gained 

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popularity, you really have to 
trust or like learn people's 

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intentions. 
But Tether's point, like we have

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like if I didn't have Heather 
through this experience, like I 

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can't even explain our dynamic. 
It's just beautiful. 

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So pretty much I got stuck with 
her but now we're best friends. 

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Well, it's changed over the 
years, right? 

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So yeah, I mean, it changes a 
lot, but like our external 

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relationships, like going on the
show and writing the book, I 

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don't have a relationship with 
my family or my community. 

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So like the greater community 
has become like people that 

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watch the show and my friends 
that are on the show and like it

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doesn't, it feels like a 
complete change, you know, from 

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who was like integral in my life
before. 

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Yeah, and speaking to the fandom
and the wider Bravo community, 

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I'm so interested to hear how 
having such like, a chronically 

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online fandom impacts you guys, 
how you guys deal with that. 

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I feel like Bravo is so unique 
in the sense that fan 

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interaction and the culture of 
the fandom is so integral to its

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success. 
Like, watch what happens live, 

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you know, people calling in 
reunions, people asking you guys

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questions, like fan interaction 
is so important to the network. 

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How do you guys deal with that? 
I mean, it's like 90% like 

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absolute support and joy and 
love and like that feeds your 

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soul in a way that like is 
terrifying. 

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But the negative, you know, you 
just have to be able to recuse 

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yourself of it and just like put
your phone down, not read it, 

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not buy into it, and just like 
enjoy the fruits of the good and

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just ignore the bad. 
Yeah, we have a saying in my 

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house with my kids. 
It's we don't have time to hear 

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why the haters love us today. 
So. 

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Oh, my gosh, that's great. 
Yeah, that's our slogan. 

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And did you make that up? 
I did. 

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And what the the biggest thing, 
like the craziest thing that I 

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learned actually from a Bravo 
exec the other day was that 3% 

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of our audience is on social 
media, people. 

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Yes, I'm actually surprised. 
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focus on the people who are 
viewing in from their homes and 

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giving us massive love, like 
when we come here and like we're

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just doing our thing or Laverne 
and Shirley thing here and 

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people recognize us, it's that's
the love and the support that we

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live for. 
And yeah, Bravo Con's amazing. 

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Watch what happens live is 
amazing. 

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But truly, it's about the people
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you know that watches a show and
gets online and tweets about? 

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It no, that is so true. 
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That's so true. 
So I think that learning that 

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lesson, it took five years. 
Really, because you feel 

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everything to heart and you want
to be loved. 

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You want everyone to enjoy the 
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And so it can hurt, but like 
when you realize that I've never

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gone on a show's page and, like 
said something horrible to 

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another person, and I watch 
every show on every network. 

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So you just have to like take it
with the greatest. 

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Can you imagine if I got on your
Instagram and like Heather, 

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don't ever wear those pants 
again? 

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Yeah, like stop losing weight. 
Specifically us. 

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I think we love the fans. 
We wouldn't be here without 

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them. 
Of course. 

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OK. 
So I wanted to talk about the 

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current season airing. 
How was shooting the season for 

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you guys? 
Obviously I know you guys had a 

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bit of like a bumpy Rd. the last
couple of years in your 

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friendship, how did you kind of 
reconcile and where are you? 

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I mean, obviously you guys are 
good now, but how do we see that

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develop over the season? 
Well, like everything broke for 

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us in San Diego in the lingerie 
you lost me fight. 

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I've never fought with Whitney 
like this ever. 

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We have had big disagreements, 
but she's never looked at me and

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called me a liar. 
You just lost me forever. 

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You lost me forever, and that 
was the biggest mistake in your 

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life. 
And so we've been like kind of 

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trying to rebuild from there. 
And we've had like ups and 

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downs. 
But truly the big pivot was in 

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Bermuda on that beach. 
Monica is not who she says she 

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is, OK? 
She's not our friend. 

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She's someone that has schemed 
and worked to infiltrate our 

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friend group and the name that 
you all know her as the woman 

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who's birthday we celebrated, 
who we have been trying to 

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champion and support and defend 
is Reality. 

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Von Tees. 
Like we put our weapons down and

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like, I think recognized and 
remembered like why we were a 

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safe space for each other and 
why we loved each other and why 

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it was important that we like 
got back to bad weather. 

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Yeah, and and what solidified it
even more for me, I can't share 

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yet, but just to tease, it was 
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Walking away from that dinner, 
the finale. 

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That's when I knew Heather, like
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I will do anything to save this 
relationship. 

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What did I do at the finale? 
No, we you slept in my bed that 

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night. 
Oh, oops, I teased that. 

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Reveal. 
So can you tell me about the new

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Housewives? 
Obviously have joined you guys 

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this season. 
How do you think they're fitting

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into the cast? 
More nuts for the trail mix. 

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Brittany was my friend and I 
think she's like an incredible 

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asset because she's just messed 
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transparent and earnest and 
charming. 

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And so it was really fun to film
with her. 

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Bronwyn was new and did some 
things that made me question her

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motives. 
And I'm very protective of my 

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relationships with these women. 
So I was a little bit got off on

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the wrong foot. 
But stay tuned, you'll 

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understand why. 
And I will be right. 

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And then maybe not, but I think 
I will be right. 

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I think that we both have a lot 
to learn still. 

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Like we're learning. 
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It's we're still learning, yeah.
It takes a long time to grow an 

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old friend and we have layers 
like we've all been together for

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five years, but for years before
that too. 

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Let's just say Britt, I love 
Brittany because her energy's 

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chaotic and it's amazing. 
And then Bronwyn, I think was a 

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real test of our friendship and 
we passed the test like we no 

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one's going to come between us. 
Good point. 

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You are so hot, like you're 
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Like we should like get as much 
for this as we can. 

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Yeah, have you considered 
joining the Sydney Housewives? 

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I actually interviewed them on 
the red carpet and I interviewed

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Andy Cohen as well when he came 
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Love you. 
It was a red carpet interview, 

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so it was like really quick. 
But if Heather and I can get 

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there, you can get there. 
Trust me, you're way ahead of 

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us. 
I'll be. 

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Dream big, baby, dream big. 
Heather can get there. 

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I said Heather and I get. 
There. 

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I sit with. 
Heather and I, I know. 

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When you met me, I had like a a 
Pixie cut and a. 

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Shaved head and she didn't want 
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Go figure. 
That is shocking to me. 

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You're such a glam girl now. 
I've always been a glam girl, 

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but I did ditch it for a year to
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The most sexy I've ever felt in 
my entire life, and yet. 

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You have hair now, so you. 
Want to get the Clippers? 

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I'm going to shave Whitney's 
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Oh my God, if we get invited 
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Fingers crossed, bravo. 
OK, what is your favorite thing 

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about filming Housewives? 
It's a full adrenaline rush. 

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Like, there is no universe that 
anyone could create where a 

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woman my age with, like, my 
history could go on TV with 

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like, crazy women, be, you know,
fly around the world, be able to

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just give all of my rage, all of
my ambition, all of my humor 

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too. 
And they can just take it. 

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I mean, it's an incredible 
experience. 

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Something that Heather and I say
all the time, like we pinch each

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other. 
Like we literally just get to 

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dress up and go to dinners and 
just say whatever we want. 

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It's. 
Amazing and like give. 

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Yourself. 
Permission to say whatever you. 

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Think. 
Yeah. 

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But the truth, these moments is 
what makes it worth it to me. 

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Like we're sitting in Sydney, 
Australia, looking at the most 

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amazing view, meeting all the 
beautiful people that we've met 

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and I'm with my bestie and it's 
like. 

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That's so cool. 
Yeah, Yeah, it's. 

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Amazing pinch. 
Yeah, and she pinches really 

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hard and she occasionally bites 
me. 

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I have a bite mark from the 
first from. 

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When? 
It's a love by Just like the 

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Penguins at the Penguin 
encounter, we encourage everyone

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to. 
Think that's what we were 

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interpret I think we were doing 
a reenactment yes we've. 

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Really embraced everything 
Sydney has to offer, including 

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Penguin behavior. 
OK, what is the hardest thing 

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about filming Housewives? 
The way it affects our kids 

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because, well, I don't think 
it's true for all housewives, 

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but in our community, it's just 
not. 

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It has no value and no one 
acknowledges it and everyone 

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just like talks around it so I 
think the kids feel it more than

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anything. 
Yeah, Well, especially in 

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Heather and I's case where we've
left the predominant culture of 

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the Mormon church. 
So our kids have taken the 

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direct hit of that. 
That's the hardest part and. 

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The best part's the money and 
fame. 

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Classic, yeah. 
It is hard to like sit there and

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so the rounds, I know Heather 
keeps saying like the fighting 

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is fun, but sometimes it's 
really hard like it. 

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Hard like running the marathon 
is hard or hard like lifting? 

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I don't know. 
I've never run a marathon and I 

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don't lift weights. 
But I imagine it's hard but has 

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its own benefits. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

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Do I lift weights? 
Yeah, yeah, I have a gym in the 

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house. 
I wondered, OK, I'm not just. 

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I gave you I've I've literally 
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You gifted me a ball and like 
the hand weights but I was 

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thinking do you like do like big
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Yeah, come to my house. 
Let's do it. 

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Welcome to Fitness with Whitney 
Rose. 

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I will do anything to move to 
Australia and be on TV here. 

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Who's you're going to be your 
Heather counterpart? 

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Instead, there is no one that 
replaces Heather Stay. 

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In Salt Lake City. 
It's Whitney and Heather down 

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under. 
Duh, duh. 

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Thank you guys so much this has 
been insane. 

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Cut direct act scene. 
All right, you guys, I hope you 

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enjoyed that interview. 
Thank you again to Heather and 

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Whitney for being so candid with
me, having the best time with me

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during that interview. 
Thank you again to Hey you and 

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you guys can stream season 5 of 
The Real Housewives of Salt Lake

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City only on Hey you the same 
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Brand new episodes are released 
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to you tomorrow. 
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