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Hi everyone, welcome to Mini 
Scroll, the daily Internet 

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the digital space every Monday 

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Fridays. 

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I'm your host Lauren Meissner, 
the founder of the Australian 

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youth digital media brand 
Centennial World. 

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Welcome back to Mini Scroll 
everyone. 

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Happy Monday, I hope you all had
a good weekend. 

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I'm feeling refreshed. 

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I was down the coast with my 
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My parents are still here in 
Australia, which has been 

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amazing. 
They actually don't leave until 

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the end of March, so I have lots
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been so nice because obviously 
they live very, very far away 

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normally. 
All right, I have a pretty big 

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episode for you guys today. 
The stories are just like 2 of 

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them are pretty meaty, so I want
to get straight into it. 

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OK, let's get into it. 
The first story that I have for 

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you guys today is the Sydney 
Road Beauty event continues to 

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spark discourse online, this 
time for a lack of diversity 

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among influencers invited. 
So last week I covered the 

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Sydney Road launch event and how
a random UGC creator went viral.

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She wasn't even invited, but she
kind of stumbled upon the event 

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and documented herself, like 
finding the event and what the 

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event was like on the outside. 
And that went pretty viral. 

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Well, over the weekend, 
discourse about the event has 

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continued because there's now 
been a lot of criticism about 

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how white the event was in terms
of attendees. 

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There was an obvious lack of 
diversity and influencers 

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invited. 
And there's lots of people 

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online saying they knew exactly 
who was going to be invited to 

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this event because it's the same
influencers that are invited to 

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every Aussie brand event. 
We all saw the Rd. 

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Sydney launch, we all saw who 
was there. 

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We knew what the guest list look
like before we even opened a 

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single video, right? 
There's a two-part situation 

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here, OK? 
It's on one, the onus of the 

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public and who we follow and 
champion. 

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But also it is on these PR 
companies and these influencer 

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relation girly pops. 
I cannot beg you enough to widen

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your horizons to other creators,
smaller creators, people of 

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color creators, curvy girlies, 
the lot. 

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Like you need to champion these 
women because they are putting 

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out some content. 
Pan out there? 

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I keep seeing tik toks of 
everyone being like, I'm so 

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bored of seeing the same 
influences at every event. 

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Yeah, I made a similar video a 
couple months ago talking about 

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calling out to brands about they
should take different influences

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to things like Coachella. 
So I've seen the road event 

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today in Australia. 
I know I'm not the only person 

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seeing this. 
First of all, what did you guys 

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get? 
Let me know. 

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Second of all though, this is 
actually not a critique on road 

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at all because this is not their
fault at all. 

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More so I think the event 
managers that maybe do the PR 

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for these kind of events to 
another girl talking about this 

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actually, but it really is the 
same group of influencers that 

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go every time and I love that 
for them. 

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I but I think we would all 
really love to start seeing some

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smaller creators going to these 
events, creators that are of. 

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I'm. 
Really trying not to be a 

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Habeah, but I already know who's
going to these Rd. events 

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because you've gone to every 
other event this year and last 

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year and the year before. 
What I'm trying to say is I'm a 

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little bit bored. 
Like girl, I already know you're

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going to go meet Hailey Bieber 
and Margaret Robbie and Jake 

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Bellary and like I already know 
who's going. 

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It's the same people that go to 
every event. 

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OK so before I get into it, no 
one is saying that these white 

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influencers shouldn't be invited
or shouldn't go to events that 

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they're invited to. 
It's more so that the Australian

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fashion beauty influencer space,
those industries at large have 

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very deep rooted systemic racism
and discrimination problems. 

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And these brands and PR agencies
can continue to get away with 

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invite list like this despite us
having this conversation every 

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few months. 
Like this is absolutely not the 

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first time that we've had this 
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And that's a thing, right? 
Like the Sydney Road event was 

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presumably an event for elite 
influencers because Haley 

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herself would be there. 
But the quote UN quote elite 

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influencers in in Australia, 
most of them are white. 

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And the people with the power to
change who is viewed as elite 

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within the industry, obviously 
outside a follower count, are 

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those in charge of gifting lists
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There's a lot of people being 
like, you can't control who has 

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the most followers and all of 
that. 

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But I actually do think a 
creator's status can be elevated

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by how the industry perceives 
them and what experiences they 

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are invited to and aligned with 
outside of follower count. 

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However, the people who are in a
position to elevate someone's 

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status, they are also largely 
white, so there isn't 

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necessarily a conscious effort 
made to ensure that they're 

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keeping diversity top of mind. 
Also, as we know, algorithms are

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really racist, so they will 
suppress content by creators of 

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color, they will push content by
white creators. 

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So if we're not making a 
conscious effort to keep 

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diversity top of mind, then the 
quote UN quote elite rung of 

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influencers within the industry 
will continue to be majority 

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white. 
It shouldn't take effort to 

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diversify your feed, but it does
because of so many of the 

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systemic barriers that prevent 
creators of color from breaking 

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into the mainstream with the 
same ease that white creators 

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can. 
And I also wanted to highlight a

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point made here by a creator 
named Mulan. 

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She noted the pressure that's 
put on the few creators of color

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who are invited to these events.
In my experience and what I've 

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seen from a lot of PR events 
recently is that a lot of brands

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are only concerned about 
diversity as far as optics go. 

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And what I mean by that is that 
they're very happy to have like 

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1-2, maybe 3 POC creators there.
And I know to a lot of people 

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you're probably like, well, 
that's like a lot 2 or 3, isn't 

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that what you want? 
Just want a handful of POC 

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creators there. 
The issue with that is when you 

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only have like 3 or 4 POC 
creators in a room of like 5050 

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girls, it is tokenization. 
Like those girls are just there 

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to be tokenized and just for the
brand to say, hey, we care about

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diversity. 
Those are the girls that get 

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rolled out for a couple of 
pictures so they can claim 

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diversity. 
And it means that for those POC 

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creators that are invited to 
these events, it puts a lot of 

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pressure on them because now 
they can't just be themselves. 

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Now they have to be the 
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They have to represent not just 
themselves, but the entirety of 

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their like minority group. 
So when you have only like 1-2, 

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maybe 3 POC people there, it 
puts a lot of pressure on them 

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because they're like, fuck, I 
need to turn it out. 

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I need to be going above and 
beyond. 

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I need to be showing face 
serving looks as they would be 

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anyway. 
But there is now this more added

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pressure because it's not just 
themselves they're representing,

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it's the collective. 
But if you are a creator, 

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especially an Aussie creator who
is feeling burnt out on this 

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conversation or discouraged by 
what we saw at the road event, I

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did want to leave you with this 
piece of advice from the 

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Cambino. 
She's one of Australia's most 

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influential fashion creators and
she's also a woman of color. 

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She posted this on her Instagram
stories yesterday. 

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I see so much discourse around 
the influencer space in Sydney 

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and like, I just want to give 
one piece of advice. 

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Banking your entire career goal 
and trajectory on making it in 

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Australia slash Sydney is a huge
mistake and disservice to 

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yourself. 
Aim higher. 

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Do you want to sit with me at 
Chanel or do you want to go to a

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Mecca event? 
Stop feeding into shit that 

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doesn't service you. 
I have my moments too where I'm 

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like wow why did NGV in 
Melbourne extend an invite? 

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And then I'm like babe you just 
did Chanel couture, you saw 

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Peter's last Alya show. 
Everything's so fine. 

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And look at not everyone is 
going to be able to make that 

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kind of career happen for 
themselves. 

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But if there's one thing about 
the Kimbino, it's that she has 

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been at this for so long. 
And Australia has absolutely, I 

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mean, for years they still do, 
but they did for so, so long 

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just completely ignore her. 
Even though she was doing this 

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amazing work, amazing commentary
on fashion. 

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Celebrities were flying her out 
to LA to consult on their lines.

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She had a list followers and 
people reposting her and sharing

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her commentary. 
And she was getting recognized 

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globally, but here in Australia,
a lot of people in the industry 

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wouldn't give her the time of 
day. 

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So even though, yes, the career 
that she has built for herself 

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is phenomenal and it might feel 
so out of reach, but I think her

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advice still rings true. 
Aim higher, shoot for the 

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fucking stars and don't get 
bogged down in the details of 

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like the local who's who who's 
invited here. 

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You know, the Internet is 
global, social media is global. 

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And at this point, budgets in a 
lot of cases are also global. 

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All right, the next story that I
have for you guys today, we need

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to talk about the Shrek 
cautionary tale discourse going 

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on on TikTok. 
I'm sure you guys have seen 

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this, but a creator named Amber 
Akila has gone viral for her hot

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take about how the movie Shrek 
is a quote cautionary tale for 

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women. 
Amber is a DJ and a music 

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producer who uses her TikTok 
largely to discuss cultural 

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commentary, pop culture analysis
and content for women around 

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decentering men in their lives. 
Five days ago, Amber posted a 

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video that's reached nearly 8 
million in views in which she 

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said that Shrek is a cautionary 
tale about how a woman can't 

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turn an ogre into a man, but he 
can make an ogre out of you. 

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I just posted on my Instagram 
story about how Shrek is not a 

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fairy tale, it's a cautionary 
tale. 

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An example of how a woman cannot
turn an ogre into a man, but he 

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can make an ogre out of you. 
Because she started as a 

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Princess, she had generational 
wealth. 

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She could have had a pet dragon.
And because she was stuck up 

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there, no hobbies, no friends, 
the first person she meets is 

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this Moody ass stubborn ogre 
that basically nags her. 

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She takes that as a sign to like
get him to like her, and she 

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falls in love with him. 
He manages to get a Princess to 

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settle for him. 
An antisocial outcast lives in a

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swamp. 
Isn't he also unemployed? 

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She's thinking Oh my God I got 
the loser to love me. 

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Alienates herself from her 
family to live with him in a 

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swamp. 
Gets baby trapped. 

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She's also an ogre now, so if 
she ever wanted to leave him, 

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she's severely limited her 
potential dating pool. 

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He's not willing to change 
anything about himself all the 

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way he lives or to level up in 
order to provide for her and 

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their family. 
Did I mention she lives in a 

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swamp when she could have lived 
in a castle? 

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People try to trick women into 
not caring about material 

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things, but there really is a 
level that you need to care 

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about when you're going to raise
children. 

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OK, men can go their whole lives
sleeping on the floor, but how 

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are you going to raise children 
in that kind of environment? 

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You could be the prettiest and 
richest girl in the land, and if

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you don't have a hobby and some 
friends, you'll end up in the 

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swamp with an ogre and you'll 
become an ogre too. 

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OK, so this video is incredibly 
divisive. 

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There are millions of people 
that agree with her, but there 

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are, I would argue, more people 
that disagree with her. 

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There is massive criticism 
around this take for several 

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reasons. 
And yes, I am about to analyze 

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Shrek. 
OK, 1st, the main criticism is 

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that this take is a fundamental 
misrepresentation of the actual 

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story of Shrek and is an example
of the MIDI and is an example of

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the media literacy crisis that 
we keep hearing about. 

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I think it's a bit reductive to 
say that this is an example of 

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the media literacy crisis. 
I think we'll throw that term 

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around like a little bit too 
loosely here, but that is kind 

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of the first take care. 
So Fiona did not turn into an 

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ogre for Shrek. 
She was always an ogre. 

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She turned into an ogre every 
single night, which is why she 

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did not want to be seen at 
night. 

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He didn't turn her into one. 
She became an ogre for like, 

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true Love's kiss, whatever. 
And she thought she was going to

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turn into a Princess. 
But it turns out that like, what

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she actually was was an ogre. 
And in ignoring that major plot 

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point, the argument falls apart.
But one of the most liked 

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comments on this video reads. 
I'm pretty sure if Fiona had 

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been an ogre from the very 
beginning of the movie, he 

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wouldn't have been interested in
her. 

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She was. 
She was you guys. 

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She was. 
That was the point. 

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She was an ogre. 
Shrek loved who she really was. 

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And that was the message that 
being different makes you 

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special. 
Not letting other people's 

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opinions define you, not 
subscribing to what society 

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wants you to be. 
Because obviously, you know, her

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family wanted her to be a 
Princess, which is why they 

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locked her in a tower because 
they were like, oh, you're 

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disgusting. 
We need this curse to be broken.

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And they thought that if she 
found true love or whatever, she

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would become a Princess. 
And she became ogre. 

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So here's a clip from creator 
Lizzie for every time. 

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Shrek is a cautionary tale about
settling for a loser. 

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Shrek is a cautionary tale about
the dangers of overvaluing 

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wealth, material goods, and a 
physical beauty. 

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Her other option was Lord 
Farquaad, who was an evil, 

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useless piece of shit who only 
wanted to marry her because she 

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was a Princess. 
The second he found out he was, 

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she was an ogre. 
At night he freaking started 

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shitting on her. 
He jilted her. 

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The whole point of the movie is 
that she could not be herself 

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around Lord Farquaad Shrek like 
who she was not the imaginary 

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Princess of. 
That was like beautiful and 

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rich. 
OK. 

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Second, another major criticism 
is this take definitely has some

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fem cell adjacent messaging 
around transactional 

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relationships and the provider 
narrative. 

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I know some of you guys might be
like, is literally not that 

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deep. 
Sometimes it is that deep and 

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you know, she's making it that 
deep, so we're going in, Amber 

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says. 
The main take away is Fiona 

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could have had generational 
wealth living in a castle but 

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she didn't have hobbies or 
friends and so she ended up in a

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swamp with an ogre. 
Fiona didn't have hobbies or 

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friends because she was locked 
in a tower and what her family 

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and society wanted from her was 
for her to be a Princess. 

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And the focus on Shrek being 
unemployed. 

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First of all, he's an ogre, OK. 
But second of all, it really 

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does feel like it threads that 
like sprinkle sprinkle messaging

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throughout this video. 
Like the value of a relationship

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comes from the transactional 
nature of it. 

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So this is the clip from Amanda 
just vibing. 

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Calling Shrek broke guy 
propaganda and saying that Ariel

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gave up her life for a man give 
off the same energy. 

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You fundamentally misunderstand 
both stories. 

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You fundamentally misunderstand 
both female character. 

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You have a very narrow view of 
the world. 

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You have a very narrow view of 
narratives. 

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It's giving bio essentialism the
overemphasis on appearance and 

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finances, the overemphasis on 
societal power. 

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Basically Woking yourself into a
circle, tying yourself into a 

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knot, and slingshotting yourself
down the tunnel of conservative 

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values. 
The girl bossification of 

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fiction is not as feminist as 
you think it is. 

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Dumbing something down to she 
gave everything up for a man is 

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not the take that you think it 
is. 

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Discounting things like 
acceptance and love and acting 

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like finding someone who meets 
you where you're at is entirely 

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impossible is not the take that 
you think it is. 

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And the thing that I really hate
about these takes is that it 

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completely abandons what these 
characters have told us from the

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beginning. 
Fiona turned into an ogre every 

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night. 
And Fiona was not the pretty, 

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pretty Princess that everybody 
thought she was. 

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She knew how to throw hand. 
She barked loudly, she talked 

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back. 
She was an autonomous and 

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independent being before, 
during, and after Shrek. 

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Her electing to be with someone 
who saw her for who she was was 

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not a failing. 
She did not change for Shrek. 

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She elected to be who she 
already was and he elected to 

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love her the way she already 
was. 

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What is wrong with? 
That it's also been interesting 

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to see in the comment section 
how people have interpreted 

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Fiona's showing Shrek that she's
an ogre. 

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Lots of people are saying it's 
obvious watching back as an 

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adult now, that Fiona didn't 
want to be an ogre, she wanted 

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to be human. 
But Shrek convinced her to stay 

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an ogre when she didn't want to 
and she could have had it so 

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much better. 
Again, the point of the movie 

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was is that she was an ogre in 
her true form. 

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She wanted to be a Princess 
because she thought that's what 

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society and suitors and her 
parents wanted from her and it 

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was more desirable. 
And then she found someone who 

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loves her for who she truly is. 
This is a clip from Corin XV. 

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There is 1.3 million people who 
like that video who do not 

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remember what Shrek was about or
what happened in these films and

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it is crazy to see my boy Shrek 
get slandered this hard. 

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She says that the Shrek films 
are not fairy tales and ignoring

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the fact that like these movies 
literally are not fairy tales, 

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they were created to make fun of
fairy tale tropes. 

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She frames the first movie as 
Shrek being like some type of 

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broke bum, but because he 
rescued Fiona and she he's the 

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first man that she's seen in 
years, she falls in love with 

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Shrek and ends up becoming an 
ogre. 

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That's not what happened. 
Shrek owned land. 

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He owned his own swamp. 
And then one day he wakes up and

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there are thousands of fairy 
tale creatures at his home, you 

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know, on his property. 
So he goes to Lord Farquaad and 

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in the process he proves that 
he's the most capable champion 

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at fighting. 
So Lord Farquaad says you will 

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be my champion. 
You will rescue the Princess. 

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And Shrek's like I don't want to
do that. 

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I just want these people out of 
my home. 

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So Lord Farquaad says I'll cut 
you a deal if you go rescue the 

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Princess then I'll make sure 
your home's exactly the way it 

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was before all these creatures 
came. 

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When Shrek rescues Fiona, they 
don't like each other. 

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Shrek doesn't like her because 
he doesn't like people at this 

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point in the story, and Fiona 
doesn't like Shrek because she 

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feels like she's getting cheated
out of the fairy tale that's 

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been told to her since she was a
little kid locked in the tower. 

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They only start having feelings 
for one another as they're 

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traveling because they start to 
find out that they have a lot in

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common. 
Because a big aspect of Fiona's 

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character in the first movie is 
that she does not fit the mold 

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of a traditional Princess. 
She's not a damsel in distress. 

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We find out that she's a very 
capable fighter. 

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She was really in the tower by 
choice. 

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She could have escaped anytime 
she wanted to. 

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She was just waiting for a 
Prince Charming. 

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She knows how to survive in the 
wilderness. 

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She's not like, you know, 
traditionally girly or anything 

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like that. 
Then we get the big reveal that 

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she turns into an ogre at night 
and through her conversation 

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with Donkey we see that this 
bothers her so much because she 

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feels like she has a societal 
standard to uphold. 

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She literally says how could 
anyone love me if I'm ugly? 

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Ugly and Princess don't go 
together. 

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She feels like she has to break 
this curse that her being an 

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ogre is bad. 
That her you know being ugly is 

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wrong because that is what was 
pushed onto her since she was a 

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little kid, which we find out in
the second movie specifically 

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her dad pushing that on her. 
So at the end of Shrek one when 

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they confess to one another and 
the curse is broken, she ends up

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as an ogre. 
That's not because of what Shrek

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wanted that's because at her 
heart that's who she always was.

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She never identified with the 
fairy tale Princess side that 

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she was pushed onto her. 
It's also crazy how that 

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original video frames Shrek as 
if he downgraded Fiona's life. 

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Like the original person went on
to say that like oh, Fiona used 

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to be a Princess, she used to be
rich. 

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She's literally still all of 
those things. 

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That's it's literally the entire
conflict of Shrek 2. 

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So I know that film and art, it 
can be interpreted in many ways,

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and I'm not trying to say that 
there's like a right or wrong 

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way to interpret the messaging 
in Shrek. 

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But in my opinion, this take 
does twist Fiona's entire story 

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and ignores ginormous plot 
points that were served to us, 

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that were given to us, and 
therefore the argument doesn't 

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hold up. 
We also do need to consider the 

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context of the media that we're 
analyzing. 

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And in this case, it's a 
children's movie. 

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So we have to assume that the 
messaging is going to be more on

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the nose and explicit for that 
reason. 

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And that's my analysis of the 
Shrek is a cautionary tale 

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discourse. 
Please let me know what you guys

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think. 
Those are my opinions, but of 

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course, as always, share yours. 
If you feel like I'm totally off

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base, let me know, OK? 
And the last story that I have 

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for you guys today, creator 
Really Rapunzel is leaving 

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TikTok after six years of 
collecting her hair. 

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So really Rapunzel started her 
account in 2020 where she 

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documented herself collecting 
hair that had fallen out of her 

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head. 
She would stick the hair to a 

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line of tape on her wall. 
And over six years, she's 

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basically collected like a wig's
worth of hair. 

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Over the weekend, she posted 
that she's ending this chapter 

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and leaving TikTok. 
It doesn't seem like for any 

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particular reason, and it really
seems like she's just kind of 

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like over this chapter. 
And I know there are very mixed 

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opinions about her content. 
A lot of people find it gross. 

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I am definitely somebody who 
finds rogue hair kind of gross, 

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and I know that this is niche, 
but I wanted to cover it for two

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reasons. 
First, because really Rapunzel 

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represents this type of creator 
that I really believe we will 

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never get again. 
There were all of these creators

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who were doing really specific 
projects or like niche sticks 

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that went so viral in 2020 when 
we were first all discovering 

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TikTok, and they entertained us 
during lockdown and they set the

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tone for what to expect on the 
app. 

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Another one of those creators 
that comes to mind, like, 

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literally just top of mind for 
me is Willy Wonka. 

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He is like a relic. 
But yeah, watching content from 

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these creators, especially 
really Rapunzel, who hasn't 

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changed her content since then, 
almost feels like getting 

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transported back to a time on 
TikTok before people started 

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using the app for news, for 
commentary. 

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It really just at the time was a
place for people to experiment 

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during lockdown. 
We were like, all in lockdown 

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together, you know, it felt very
like community oriented. 

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It was like weirdos showing off 
their projects and making silly,

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harmless content and teenagers 
dancing, and it was just a 

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totally different time on the 
app. 

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And that's really noticeable in 
the comments section. 

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Her comments are filled with 
people being like, Oh my God, 

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how have I been watching you do 
this project for six years? 

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Like please don't stop. 
I started watching you on day 

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one and I was in this place in 
my life. 

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And now it's six years later and
I'm in this place in my life and

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like you've been such a constant
for me. 

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Watching you do this project has
been a constant for me. 

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Like please don't go. 
So let me read you some of these

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comments. 
This comment says, wait, you're 

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leaving. 
No, I've been here since the 

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first strand of hair. 
Don't go. 

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I've left an abusive 
relationship, gotten married, 

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had a baby all while following 
this journey and this comment 

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has 522.2000 likes. 
Another comment reads Girl I 

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have graduated high school, left
a 2 1/2 year relationship, met 

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the love of my life and had two 
kids Don't go. 

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And this one has 60,000 likes, 
another reads It is insane to me

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that I've been watching a 
stranger collect their hair and 

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tape it to a wall for six years.
That has 330.6000 likes and 

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another reads I beat alcoholism,
got married and had two boys and

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I'm about to go back to school. 
What do you mean this is over? 

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That's the other reason why I 
want to cover this. 

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I don't think I got to a #2 Her 
comment section shows the power 

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of consistently showing up 
online for your audience and how

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we can develop this attachment 
to it. 

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A parasocial relationship almost
to like a style of content. 

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Because we don't know, as far as
I know anything about really 

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Rapunzel. 
We literally watch her stick 

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hair to her wall and that's it. 
And seeing how people can mark 

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life events and passages of time
through, you know, consuming 

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this content and consider their 
own life milestones in it. 

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It's so fascinating. 
And it really shows the power of

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an app like TikTok and how 
social media has changed and how

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we consume content in our 
relationship to content and 

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creators over time and styles of
content that we never really 

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consider. 
We think a lot about parasocial 

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relationships and knowing a lot 
about different people. 

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But this is an example of, you 
know, a connection to a style of

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content, which I think is really
interesting and a project people

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love seeing through a project. 
Anyways, guys, that's it for 

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many scroll today. 
Thank you so much for listening.

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