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It helps us grow. 32 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,360 It helps us get sponsors, which helps us keep. 33 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,600 Going and. Producing this for you guys, so 34 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,720 please leave us a review. Spotify star rated, subscribe to 35 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,400 us on YouTube, all that good stuff. 36 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,120 All right. The first story that I have for 37 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:43,640 you guys today is Lexi. Levin has left the Hybe Geffen 38 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,520 global girl group St. Satine. 39 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,840 So we did. Cover St. 40 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,920 Satine in May of this year, but in case. 41 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,160 You missed it. Saint Satine was a four. 42 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,280 Person girl group created. By Hybe and Geffen, the joint 43 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,200 venture behind Cat's Eye. It initially. 44 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,720 Consisted of three girls. Emily, Samara and Lexi. 45 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,200 These three girls. Were well known in the Cat's Eye 46 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,000 fandom, so. People were really. 47 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,520 Excited when St. Satine was announced. 48 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,160 Announced. However, this excitement. 49 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,720 Stalled when the final member. Was revealed so similar to cat's 50 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,080 eye, a group of girls. Were competing in a survival. 51 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,120 Show. Prelude, the final piece. 52 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,040 To find the. 4th and final member. 53 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,840 The winner of the show. Was named Sakura and she is from 54 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,240 Japan. It was controversial for a few. 55 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,080 Reasons the 1st. Thing was that. 56 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,160 Sakura was significantly younger than the other members. 57 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,640 She is 16, while Lexie is 21 and both Samara and Emily are 20. 58 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:36,360 And then the next reason was because a lot of social media. 59 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,960 Users felt like the other finalist, Anaya. 60 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,520 Was a better. Performer and was. 61 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,520 Truly like, ready to be part of the group. 62 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,120 She was also 19 years old, so it did feel like a bit of a. 63 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,520 Better alignment in terms of the ages. 64 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,240 After facing scrutiny for the decision, the girls moved in 65 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,880 together and continue to drum up excitement on social media about 66 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,560 officially debuting. Toward the end of June, 67 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,720 followers started. Noticing that Lexi hadn't 68 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,320 appeared in Saint Sateen's TikTok content for a while and 69 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,720 today we have learned the reason why Highben Geffen and. 70 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,560 Lexi all issued. Statements revealing that. 71 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,400 She will be leaving. Saint Satine. 72 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:14,680 Before they have. Even debuted, Lexi's statement 73 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,600 basically said that she no longer felt like St. 74 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,920 Satine was right. For her, however, she urged 75 00:03:18,920 --> 00:03:21,320 viewers to continue supporting the group's journey. 76 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:24,440 Highben Geffen's statement said it was a mutual agreement that. 77 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,000 Lexi would part ways with the group. 78 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,520 OK, so fans were quite surprised. 79 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,120 Considering that the group hasn't even officially. 80 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,120 Debuted. At the same time though. 81 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,920 This actually isn't Lexi's first. 82 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,800 Time leaving a hype and Geffen. Project in pop *. 83 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,760 Academy, the docu. Series that followed the. 84 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,440 Creation of cat's eye. It was revealed that Lexi left. 85 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,440 The competition because she was uncomfortable with the toxic and 86 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,280 increasingly competitive environment. 87 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,920 From what they showed us, she basically just. 88 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,760 Stopped attending rehearsals and then the team came to the 89 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,120 conclusion that it would be best. 90 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,000 If she left the program. It did seem very amicable in 91 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,280 this case. And social media. 92 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,480 Users are convinced that Lexi would have made it into Cat's 93 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,360 Eye. If she hadn't left the. 94 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,120 Competition. And then the theory here was 95 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,520 that hyben. Geffen were understanding. 96 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,240 About Lexi. During Dream Academy because 97 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,520 they wanted to maintain some type. 98 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,200 Of relationship with her for future projects so. 99 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,760 When St. Satine was announced, many fans 100 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,839 felt like, OK, this group must be built around Lexi. 101 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,120 That so. People are like what the hell? 102 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,080 Is going on here. Some Reddit users believe that. 103 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,160 She no longer aligns with the group's concept and directions. 104 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,680 While others speculate. That Lexi didn't want to be part 105 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,800 of a group with a minor, Placing the blame on Highben Geffen for 106 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,680 selecting Sakura as the final member. 107 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,200 Unfortunately, this theory in particular. 108 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,760 Has. Ignited a bit of a hate train 109 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,160 against Sakura. Which is obviously. 110 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,640 Super unfair. None of. 111 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,880 This is her fault. Please do not cyber. 112 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,920 Bully a minor, OK, And then another factor to consider. 113 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,720 Here is the grueling training. Schedule. 114 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,920 Ahead of debut. And that would be valid, 115 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,080 however. There are. 116 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,800 Some fans who are arguing that if. 117 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,440 This was the case Lexi. Has been disrespectful to the 118 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,320 organization given that she has dropped out twice now. 119 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,160 Arguably, she would have. You know a. 120 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,560 Better idea of like. What preparing for a debut looks 121 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,640 like now that she's like. Been through it a few times but 122 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,840 honestly I'm not really in the business of like feeling bad. 123 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:16,120 For corporations. So I don't. 124 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,640 Subscribe to that, but that is. What some? 125 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,880 People feel so users. Are concerned. 126 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,880 About Saint Satine at this. Point many felt. 127 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,920 Like Lexi was like the glue that held them together 128 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,280 aesthetically. Skill wise and like I said, the 129 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:29,000 group was kind of built around her or like. 130 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,560 At least that's how it was perceived, 1 user wrote. 131 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,400 Quote what's even going to happen with the group now? 132 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,840 Lexi was a major glue on their visual identity. 133 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:37,520 And the support vocalist with Samara. 134 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,000 This is so messy. I feel so bad for my girls. 135 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Another post reads. I think all of us thought that 136 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,160 the. 3 prelude members. Were set with their future plans 137 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,040 in. Regards to Saint 13, I wonder if 138 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,400 she was less confident. In the group's future prospects 139 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,720 after the. World Scout Finale, finally, 140 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,320 someone wrote. It's kind of unsurprising 141 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,440 considering how quick Lexi was. To leave the program. 142 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,200 The last time something went against her morals, perhaps she 143 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,560 thought things would be different and they were not. 144 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,280 Who knows, But this is kind of embarrassing for Hyben Geffen 145 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,040 and not looking. Good for the future of their. 146 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,080 Group In a similar vein, a pop culture commentator on TikTok 147 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,840 named Jazz noted how. Bad this looks. 148 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:14,360 For Hyben Geffen, between Manoj's ongoing unexplained 149 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,800 hiatus, Katsai currently operating as a five person 150 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,160 group, and now Lexi leaving Saint Satine before they even 151 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:27,120 debuted, Hybes Geffen is not looking appealing to any brand. 152 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,040 They're seeing them as unstable. This is setting the groundwork 153 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,280 for whatever girl group that they may come forward with, 154 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:37,080 Whatever boy group that they may come forward with. 155 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:42,120 The shakiness of the members, the shakiness of the label, the 156 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,200 poor statements coming from the label, the unexplained 157 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,000 abscesses, the weird shit is not looking good. 158 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,760 And they're looking at them and say, you know what, I would 159 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,320 rather go put my energy somewhere else that is more 160 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,120 stable. As for what comes next? 161 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:57,360 There is a theory that. Hyben Geffen will now look for 162 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,080 another member, so some fans are calling on Ayana to join. 163 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,880 But there is a possibility. If they do add someone else, it 164 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,360 may not be anyone featured in the. 165 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,480 Previous survival. Show, of course, and people are 166 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,920 pointing to a hype casting call that was put out to the public 167 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,600 at the beginning of July, but like, we have no idea 168 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,360 technically. What that was? 169 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,640 For OK, so now we need to talk about Manam. 170 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,640 Because with Lexi. Leaving the group, everyone is 171 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,120 making comparisons to Minaj's hiatus. 172 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,840 Obviously, Hybengeffen have yet to make a clear stance on what 173 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,160 Minaj's future. Is in Cat's. 174 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,000 Eye and as it. Stands. 175 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,200 She is. Still on hiatus even though it 176 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:32,960 really. Does not look. 177 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,920 Like she is going to be returning to the group. 178 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,120 Obviously the situation is different like cats eye is fully 179 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,520 established while. Saint Satine hasn't even debuted 180 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,080 yet, so maybe that's a part of it, but cats Eye fans. 181 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,880 Want more clarity? From Hyben Geffen, they want a 182 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,680 definitive statement or an answer. 183 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,040 Like they have. Provided for Saint Satine like 184 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,560 Manaw situation has been dragging out for nearly five 185 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,080 months and. People feel really frustrated 186 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,560 with the corporation as 1X user put it. 187 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,480 Quote the fact that Lexi can quit twice. 188 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,440 With no consequences. And will never be villainized. 189 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,720 But with. Minaj she is. 190 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,160 Forced into a hiatus will likely be portrayed in the film as the 191 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,120 problem and blamed for her exit while her mistreatment is 192 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,120 ignored, showing a clear double standard and how they're being 193 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,800 treated, another user wrote. This happening so fast makes me 194 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,760 think the rumors of Missy and the girls attempting to kick 195 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,320 Mana out and Hype still trying to keep her make more sense. 196 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,320 Manal literally doesn't want to leave Cat's Eye because look how 197 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,400 fast they move when a member does want out. 198 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,360 That being said, Manal and Lexi could have signed very different 199 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,880 contracts. Maybe. 200 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,480 Contractually, if you. Haven't debuted yet. 201 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,039 It's much easier to leave a group. 202 00:08:38,039 --> 00:08:40,120 Than if you have like, we actually have no idea. 203 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,440 But yeah, if we get any more developments on Saint Satine and 204 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,160 what's going on, I'll let you guys know. 205 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,280 Anyways, the next story. That I have for you guys today 206 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,560 is I have an. Aspenovart Update? 207 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,000 I feel like there was a time last year where I was teetering 208 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,080 on becoming and Aspen ovard update account and I made a 209 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,280 TikTok on my spam TikTok account. 210 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,240 Like a totally. Random 1 and it went so viral it 211 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,880 was. Reacting to that TikTok that she 212 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,440 made, like straddling. Parker, do you remember that? 213 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,000 That was like an iconic one and she was wearing that tank top 214 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:09,520 that I. Think it had. 215 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,880 Cherries on it. I don't know everybody was like 216 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,440 stitching it and recreating it and I made some like random 217 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,600 reaction TikTok. It was like so nothing. 218 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,440 I was literally at the office when I did it and it kind. 219 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,480 Of popped off people are just like so. 220 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:26,080 So fascinated by her same. OK, anyways, so. 221 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,160 Aspen posted. And then deleted. 222 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,480 A picture of her with. Her family kissing. 223 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,800 Her ex-husband, Parker. In a photo dump this week. 224 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,920 So Aspen has had a turbulent few years. 225 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,760 Publicly, she and husband Parker Ferris divorced. 226 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,720 In 2024. She moved from Utah to Southern. 227 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,480 California. And now she's in a relationship 228 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,160 with a married couple, Bree and Billy. 229 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,040 Davis, she's also. Set to star in the Secret Lives 230 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,760 of Mormon Wives Orange County edition, where she will share 231 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:55,880 more about. Her personal life. 232 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,880 Hopefully. That is like one of the biggest. 233 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,440 Criticisms about Aspen recently is like, she's gone through so 234 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,000 much and like I understand when it comes to like her kids and 235 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,280 that kind of stuff, 100% like no one has owed any information on 236 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,000 that. But she like dangles these 237 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,960 carrots in front. Of us like with her divorce, 238 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,160 with her throuple. Relationship and it's like, 239 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,120 girl, are you? Ever going to actually tell us? 240 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,960 Are you ever going to address? Anything she. 241 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,400 Is like the queen of trolls. OK, so now she is going. 242 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,760 Viral for posting. A picture kissing her ex. 243 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,960 Husband Parker with their. Kids standing with them like I 244 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:26,840 said it. Was part of. 245 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,840 This Instagram photo dump and she was shooting for the reality 246 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,560 show, it seemed in that photo. The dump is still up the. 247 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:35,000 Photo has been deleted. Aspen said she had to. 248 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,600 Delete the photo. Because production for. 249 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,480 Her show the. Secret lives of Mormon wives 250 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,160 Orange County a. Mouthful to say, asked her to, 251 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,280 but people were like what the actual hell? 252 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,520 Is going on and like how confusing for her. 253 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,000 Kids, to be fair, like they're in the photo. 254 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,280 How confusing people at first thought it was. 255 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,560 Billy because she's in a relationship with Billy. 256 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:55,920 But no she. Was kissing. 257 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,680 Parker So yes, the main theories here is that she's trolling 258 00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:00,640 because, like I said, she's kind of the queen of trolling. 259 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,920 She's really been trolling. Her audience since 2024. 260 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,480 With all her like cheeky tik toks about her divorce. 261 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,000 And now her throuple content. Oh, also all that stuff with. 262 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,480 Parker's mom. That was diabolical. 263 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,600 I covered that as well if you guys want a full recap. 264 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,320 Of that go back and like search and other fans are thinking 265 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,200 maybe it's like to drum up hype and press and all that kind of 266 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,320 stuff for the show and yes like I said when somebody commented 267 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,160 the 11th pick hello she responded production asked me 268 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:28,680 to. Delete. 269 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:30,440 So watch the show to see the story. 270 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,320 Ha ha ha. Like I said, I hope we get some. 271 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,880 Answers to all. Of our. 272 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,800 Questions with this? Show she's gonna be. 273 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,160 Like the main poll for most people I would say and I. 274 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,800 Really hope. We get some answers because. 275 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,440 She has. Been like stringing her audience 276 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,000 along and being so messy on social media and like I'm loving 277 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,040 it. I'm living. 278 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,120 For it. But I understand why some people 279 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:59,200 are like girl give us answers and this is like a not the best 280 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,640 it seems. Maybe, possibly for her 281 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,560 children. But I'm not here to say what is 282 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:05,640 like good or bad for. Her kids, I don't know. 283 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,880 OK. And the last story that I have 284 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,720 for you guys today is a man is going viral after gifting AYSL 285 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,000 makeup. Bag to his Co worker instead of 286 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,320 his wife. So this seemingly started. 287 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,760 Gaining traction on. X after user. 288 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,720 At Holly Marr Gummel. Shared the story so she posted a 289 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,320 series of tweets saying her husband. 290 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,800 Won AYSL makeup and skin care hamper from a company event 291 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,400 instead of bringing. It home to. 292 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,680 Her. He handed it straight to a 293 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:33,400 female Co worker basically. She goes on to say that she felt 294 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,960 sidelined by his actions. Especially as she. 295 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,520 Stays home having to do a lot of. 296 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,400 The domestic work she would have. 297 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,560 Appreciated being considered at that moment and instead. 298 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:44,200 He preferred to look quote a quote. 299 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,920 Generous in front of his colleagues and gave it to. 300 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,720 His Co worker. She wrote last night. 301 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,480 My marriage was shaken over a makeup kit, but anyone looking 302 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,120 from the outside will call me crazy. 303 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,960 My husband came home from his company's luncheon radiant. 304 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,040 It was an. Employees only lunch and he was 305 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,960 drawn as the winner of a super premium skin care and makeup 306 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,280 kit. Expensive and complete. 307 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,160 You know, the kind of treat any woman would love to get. 308 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:07,280 But what did? He do. 309 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,560 He simply looked to the side and handed the entire prize. 310 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,080 To a female Co worker. It didn't stop. 311 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,440 There the. Feeling of being undervalued was 312 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,120 so violent it took my breath away. 313 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,400 Not for one second did I cross his mind. 314 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,240 The existence of his own wife was completely erased at that 315 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,520 event. He preferred the smile and 316 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,360 gratitude of a Co worker over mine. 317 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:27,560 He. Preferred the social. 318 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:30,440 Applause of being the nice guy when I confronted him. 319 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,640 The worst? Part came. 320 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,400 He called me dramatic and crazy, he said. 321 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:34,760 It would. Look bad for a man to accept 322 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,680 makeup in front of everyone and that he couldn't refuse the 323 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:38,760 moment. OK, so. 324 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,400 This has gone. Pretty viral. 325 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,600 Users are talking about. How they would. 326 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,840 Feel in the. Situation across Reddit and 327 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,000 TikTok. It really gained traction after 328 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,560 TikTok creator at Married to A. Lunatic, also known as Beau 329 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:52,240 Grant. Posted about it on the platform. 330 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,560 Her video has accumulated. 2.1 million views. 331 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:58,480 And the people in the comments saying it's not that deep, 332 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,360 except that it is. She is having to ask someone who 333 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:06,200 is always at the forefront of her mind why she is not always 334 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,280 at the forefront of his mind. It's heartbreaking. 335 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,120 Every woman and man who seemed to understand this know how 336 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,400 telling this is. Be in a relationship where you 337 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,960 are not considered at all. Actually just proving to her 338 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,800 that he gives her zero consideration. 339 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:27,040 And honestly, the greatest form of love we can give those that 340 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,440 we love is consideration. All right. 341 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,400 So there's like 1. Camp of users. 342 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,880 Who are basically saying it's not that deep. 343 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,520 Now there's another. Camp of users that argue. 344 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,400 That this indicates a pattern of not prioritizing his wife, with 345 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,120 some commenters speculating about the nature. 346 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,800 Of his relationship with the Co worker. 347 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,240 One post on the R slash woman subreddit wrote. 348 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,440 Knowing myself, I would have packed my things. 349 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,280 Immediately. This is exactly why I. 350 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,640 Value financial freedom. I would have grabbed my stuff 351 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,440 and left that instant. I don't even like makeup, but at 352 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,280 least call me first. Meanwhile. 353 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,800 His wife was at home taking care of the kids while he was gifting 354 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,600 another woman the makeup kids. I think it depends on how seen 355 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,160 you feel in your marriage. Like what kind of partner? 356 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,920 Your husband is to you because like. 357 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,160 If this happened in my marriage because my husband is. 358 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,600 Like so supportive. He's literally my #1 fan. 359 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,880 I'm always top of mind for him if he. 360 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,760 Did this. I wouldn't even think twice 361 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:19,880 about it. I would just be like. 362 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,520 OK, obviously I would have loved that makeup, but like I would 363 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,440 assume like. OK, well his Co worker was right 364 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,440 there she was also. In the running to win it. 365 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,400 She's a woman that loves makeup and he won it, so OK. 366 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,000 Sure, like give it to her instead. 367 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,520 Like it's. For your company, right? 368 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,680 But I can understand not all women feel that way and also 369 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,600 every relationship can be so different and if you're in one. 370 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,840 Where you don't. Feel valued and you don't feel 371 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,240 seen, then this would. Indicate a larger. 372 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,880 Problem of course and like a pattern of. 373 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,000 Behavior like these. Users are saying I think. 374 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,960 Another question here. Is why do we think this post 375 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,760 went viral? And I think there are a few. 376 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,160 Factors first, social media loves. 377 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,520 Litigating relationship dynamics online. 378 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,600 It's something that everyone can relate to and it's. 379 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,800 So close to like everyone's. Right, because. 380 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,640 It's about your interpersonal relationships. 381 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,600 Second users also. Love to test their relationship 382 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,960 in. Response to these discussions so 383 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:12,560 some. Women are now. 384 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,600 Filming themselves asking their partners if they would bring the 385 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,200 gift basket home similar to. The Would you Still Love me If I 386 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,800 was a Worm vibe. It also taps into this like 387 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,320 superiority complex. I mean, kind of. 388 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,840 Like lack of a better term I would say. 389 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,560 That people may have when they post online and feel like, oh, I 390 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,160 want to showcase like my really healthy, strong relationship 391 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,120 look at my. Husband. 392 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,520 He's the best. There's a lot. 393 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,840 Of that kind of content, I think. 394 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,760 In direct response to a lot. Of story times like this where 395 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,000 women are like, Oh my God, my husband is doing XYZ and 396 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,080 everybody's like leave him. Leave him like immediately sue 397 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,280 him. And then the women come back and 398 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,720 they're like, you just don't know him. 399 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,080 It's like a whole side of the Internet now. 400 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,240 I'm sure you guys have. Come. 401 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,720 Across it many times. And then I also think TikTok. 402 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,560 Users just love to hear. Personal story times, even when 403 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,920 they're not. Yours SO creators. 404 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,720 Are jumping on this retelling the story or using it to tell? 405 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,480 Their own stories. And of course, like story time 406 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,720 content, content has long been a favorite on the Internet 407 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,880 anyways. What I think needs to happen 408 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,640 here YSL capitalize. On this moment, send this woman 409 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,800 a gift. Box send her the. 410 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,160 Gift basket, OK. That would be. 411 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,880 So iconic. Or do a campaign about. 412 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,400 Like shitty husbands or something. 413 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,839 The brand needs to jump on anyways guys, that's. 414 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:27,760 It for mini scroll today. Thank you so much for. 415 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,000 Listening, I love you guys. Please remember to rate. 416 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,120 Review and subscribe please Spotify star rate US. 417 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:33,960 It helps us so much. It helps us grow. 418 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,160 Annabelle will talk to you guys. Tomorrow and then I will talk to 419 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,360 you on Thursday bye. 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