1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,600 culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,240 media, the creator economy and the digital space every Monday 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,120 through Thursday. I'm your host, Lauren Meisner, 5 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:17,240 the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World. 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,080 Welcome back to Mini scroll, everyone. 7 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:21,440 I hope you guys had a good weekend. 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,240 I actually had such a good weekend. 9 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:27,720 It was the first weekend in probably five months that I 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,439 didn't have to work on the weekend and it was kind of life 11 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:35,440 changing, honestly. I have spent at least one full 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,280 day at the office every single weekend since just the year 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,720 kicked off with the craziness that it was. 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:47,640 And yeah, I feel like I have started to get a strong grasp, a 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:53,160 stronger grasp on my schedule and my workflow and all of that 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,320 just in time to disrupt it again. 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,800 Because if you guys are long time listeners, you know, once a 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,360 year I usually go home and either July or August I go back 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,600 to Canada and I spend about a month, like a few weeks to a 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,160 month. They are working from Canada and 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,520 I am heading back home to Canada on Monday. 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,680 So in a week's time, nothing should change with the podcast 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,760 except obviously the setup. You guys are going to be seeing 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,040 me. I think I'm probably just going 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,600 to have to record on my bed maybe. 26 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,320 But I'm bringing my camera, I'm bringing the tripod, I'm 27 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:28,720 bringing the teleprompter for mini or for infinite scroll. 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,640 I yeah, it's going to be like a full setup. 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,840 I bought a mic that I can hold. So it'll like plug directly into 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,040 the camera. So I feel like the audio quality 31 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,520 might, you know, not be like as great as it is right now with 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,680 this like whole Rd. mixer and everything, but it'll still be a 33 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,080 professional microphone plugged into a professional camera. 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,200 So I am doing that. So I'm going home on August 5th. 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,760 So there'll be no mini scroll August 5th or 6th because as we 36 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,880 know the flights from Sydney to Toronto are like 24 plus hours. 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,200 So I'm going to have those two days off. 38 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,320 I'll be back on Wednesday with mini scroll. 39 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,200 I don't, I guess maybe that will be Thursday, but either way like 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,520 the day will be pushed, you know, like Thursday for 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,000 Australia. I mean anyways, there will be 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,840 two episodes of mini school next week and a deep dive as usual. 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,200 But yes, I'm really excited. My parents retired up to our 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,880 cottage a few years ago so when I go home now it's like 2 hours 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,320 north of Toronto and I'm just in cottage country on a lake and 46 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,680 it's so beautiful and it's just like so serene. 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,360 It's the exact like, chill vibe I really, really need. 48 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,120 And I was laughing so hard because TikTok gave me a memory 49 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,600 that one year ago today, I was at home, like at my family 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,400 cottage back home with my parents. 51 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,360 And this was the day that James Charles launched Painted, I 52 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,360 guess, like his beauty brand. And his launch video had me in 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,680 it like a clip from our podcast TikTok, where I was talking 54 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,240 about how like, he's irrelevant and like, nobody is going to buy 55 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,600 paint. And I was dying because I 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,840 remember that day so well. I remember being home so vividly 57 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,560 last year and like how I felt. And I just, it was just such a 58 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,160 different time. And all the Colleen Ballinger 59 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,960 stuff had just happened. We just did our big deep dive 60 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,800 into Gwen Swinarton, like Gwen Gwizz ASMR, and that was popping 61 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,240 off. And then this James Charles 62 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,160 thing. And it was just like, I just 63 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,120 remember having like a lot of anxiety when I was home and 64 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,760 like, feeling like I just didn't have a lot of control over the 65 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,320 business. And I, I mean, I still don't 66 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,360 really feel in control. I don't know if you ever feel in 67 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,440 control when you run a business, but I have a completely 68 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,440 different business now. Like, it's just, it's wild. 69 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,520 It's just been a wild year. But yeah. 70 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,000 So I will be podcasting from home for three weeks. 71 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,160 So like the 7th or whatever, once I get there, the 7th to 72 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,360 the, I believe it's like the 29th or the 30th. 73 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,200 And then I'm going to Europe for two weeks because one of my best 74 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,440 friends from high school is getting married in Tuscany and 75 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,280 they're doing like a joint bachelor, Bachelorette trip 76 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,640 beforehand in Croatia that we're going to go to. 77 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,480 We have a few days of just like us time traveling, whatever. 78 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,600 And then we have the wedding. And then we're going to have a 79 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,040 couple nights in Rome and then fly back to Sydney. 80 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,480 So I'm going to be gone for like almost six full weeks and two of 81 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,440 those weeks at the end. So the first two weeks of 82 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,320 September, I am going to take off as a vacation. 83 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,760 So this is your warning to Backlog Bank your mini scroll 84 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,240 episodes if you want some content while I'm gone. 85 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,400 So yes, I'm going to take the first two weeks of September 86 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,080 completely off. I'm going to try and have like a 87 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,280 proper vacation, a proper break. I really, really need it. 88 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:40,560 So I'm looking forward to that and I hope you guys understand. 89 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,640 OK, let's get into the stories for today. 90 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,440 So I have two stories for you guys. 91 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,400 The first one will be no surprise that I'm reporting on 92 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,200 this. I guess I just report on all the 93 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,600 developments on this story now. But Cody Ko and Noelle Miller 94 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,720 have released a statement amid the ongoing Tana Mojo 95 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,760 allegations. We've covered this on Mini 96 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,240 Scrolls so many times, like I said, over the past couple of 97 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,520 weeks, but if you missed it, Tana Mojo recently claimed that 98 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,560 she hooked up with Cody Ko when she was about 16 or 17 years old 99 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,720 and he was 25. Since then, Cody has been under 100 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,280 pressure to respond. He stayed silent, though he did 101 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:18,880 face backlash after being filmed playing Sorry by Justin Bieber 102 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,520 during a DJ set in Las Vegas. Now over this past weekend, Cody 103 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,720 finally issued a statement. However, it wasn't directly 104 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,240 addressing the allegations. Instead it was a shared 105 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,000 statement with Noel Miller. So Cody and Noel run a podcast 106 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,200 network called TMG Studios. TMG stands for Tiny Meat Gang 107 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,360 which is the name of the podcast that they Co host under TMG 108 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,880 Studios. Cody hosts his own show called 109 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,640 Insanely Chill. Other influencers like Brooke 110 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,080 Averick also have podcasts under the network. 111 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,440 After the allegations surfaced, Emergency Intercom by Drew and 112 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,120 Enya recently cut ties with the network, which I believe I 113 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,720 reported on. I think that was last week as 114 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,480 well. So in the statement, they 115 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,160 started by thanking the team and their listeners for being 116 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,240 patient. The pair then announced that 117 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,680 Cody will be taking a step back from TMG. 118 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,920 Quote As we enter into this next phase of the studio, we wanted 119 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,120 to let you know that Cody will not be involved in the 120 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,880 day-to-day operations at TMG Studios. 121 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,760 What has transpired over the past few weeks is a personal 122 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,240 issue for him and Cody wants to remove any effect this has on 123 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,440 your professional or personal lives and the work you and other 124 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,280 hosts have done to make TMG Studios so successful. 125 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,240 This statement reads. They also revealed that Quote 126 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,520 Noel will continue to lead the team, where his top priority 127 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,680 remains the life and growth of the studio and its talent. 128 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,680 So while this is Cody's most public statements so far, many 129 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,440 people feel like he didn't really do much beyond 130 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,080 acknowledging the allegations. On top of this, many believe 131 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,520 that he will still be associated with TMG, but mostly just behind 132 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,080 the scenes. Now, interestingly, there's been 133 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,360 a lot of discourse on Twitter comparing this situation to that 134 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,480 of the Try Guys. Many users have expressed 135 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,200 disappointment with TMG, pointing out that the Try Guys 136 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,880 cut ties with Ned Fulmer for having an affair with a 137 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,920 consenting adult. However, she was also an 138 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,520 employee. Meanwhile, Cody is likely to 139 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,960 continue profiting from and being involved in TMG despite 140 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,440 allegedly sleeping with Tana while she was a minor. 141 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,480 So obviously Ned and his Co worker at the time or his 142 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,320 employee at the time, those were two consenting adults and it was 143 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,200 definitely like an HR issue possibly. 144 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,400 And he was cheating on his wife. So there's a lot of like 145 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,440 interpersonal stuff, a lot of professional stuff because he 146 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,280 did it with an employee of the Try Guys. 147 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,920 But at the end of the day, it wasn't like a crime, whereas 148 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:44,160 what Cody allegedly did could be an alleged crime. 149 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,640 So, you know, there are different lines there, I would 150 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,560 say. And I, I think when the try guys 151 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,760 did cut ties with Ned, like it was such a big deal because it 152 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,160 felt like they took action right away and they did something that 153 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,680 seemed a bit drastic, but it was in the name of protecting their 154 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,440 brands, their employee. And it just, it went over really 155 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,480 well because they made it so public and they took action 156 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,760 right away. And it was like steps in the 157 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,240 right direction. And I don't know, I don't, I 158 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,680 don't know what is going to happen with TMG Studios. 159 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,080 I don't know what's going to happen with Cody. 160 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,920 Like, this statement very much makes it sound like Cody, you 161 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,960 know, is still a partner in TMG. He still owns it. 162 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,520 So I don't know. We'll have to see. 163 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,760 And there's so much discourse about like why Cody maybe hasn't 164 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,120 addressed it. And people are like, well, he's 165 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,440 Canadian, so maybe he's worried about his citizenship coming in. 166 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,679 I think the simplest answer is if he comes out and says sorry, 167 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,200 then he's essentially admitting to an alleged crime. 168 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,960 So like, you know, I don't think we're ever going to get a 169 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,160 statement about this in any type of like, meaningful way because 170 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,920 he's not going to admit to an alleged crime on the Internet. 171 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,840 That's my take on that. OK, The next story that I have 172 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,080 for you guys is I'm going to address the Ava Tyson 173 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,400 allegations. Now, I know these allegations 174 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,800 have been going around for about a week, and I know Mr. Beast 175 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,760 made a statement and I'll go through all of that in a minute, 176 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,200 but I didn't want to address these. 177 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,360 I wasn't going to cover it because there are just a lot of 178 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,920 people that are using this situation for an opportunity to 179 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:19,120 be transphobic and I didn't want to empower anyone to do that. 180 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,640 However, the alleged victim has spoken out and done an interview 181 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,240 with Rolling Stone. So I'm going to cover it because 182 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,600 now we have all sides to the story. 183 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,240 I think it's an important story to cover for sure, but I want to 184 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,320 make it clear, if anyone finds this on YouTube, and it will be 185 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,520 YouTube, it will be YouTube that people, rogue people, will find 186 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,680 this because it will come up in the recommended or their search 187 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:41,640 or whatever. If you find this video on 188 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,400 YouTube and you comment anything transphobic in the comments, I 189 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:50,560 will, we'll just block you. OK OK so over the past few weeks 190 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:53,240 grooming allegations have been levelled against Ava Chris 191 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,440 Tyson. So if you aren't familiar with 192 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,360 Ava, she is long time Co host of Mr. Beast's videos and has been 193 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,560 friends with Jimmy who is Mr. Beast since childhood. 194 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:05,120 She is also a trans woman who has been the target of 195 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,280 discrimination since she opened up about her gender affirming 196 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,080 HRT journey and transition last year. 197 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,960 Recently, Ava has been accused of sending inappropriate 198 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,680 messages to a minor when she 20. Over the past month, video 199 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:22,120 started circulating of messages with a user named Lava GS, who 200 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,400 was 13 at the time. Last week, Ava took to Twitter 201 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,720 to address the claims, apologizing for her previous 202 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,040 behavior while also clarifying that she, quote, never groomed 203 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,880 anyone. She also announced that she will 204 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,280 be taking a step back from social media for her mental 205 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,800 health and all things Mr. Beast to ensure that no one at the 206 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,120 company will be hurt by these allegations. 207 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,160 Quote, I would like to apologize for any of my past behavior or 208 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,880 comments if it hurt or offended and anyone it was not my intent. 209 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,760 Seeing recent events, we've mutually decided it's best I 210 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,000 permanently step away from all things Mr. Beast and social 211 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,640 media to focus on my family and mental health, she wrote. 212 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,080 I want to add, I never groomed anyone. 213 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,640 The person who gets brought up in these accusations at Lava GS 214 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,560 has vocally supported that these are false. 215 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:08,520 Beyond this, Ava continued by acknowledging that her previous 216 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,240 behavior online was inappropriate. 217 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,800 Quote I humbly apologize to anyone I have hurt with my 218 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,440 unacceptable social media posts, past actions, and to those who 219 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,040 may feel betrayed by how I used to act online. 220 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,000 To lump these two factors together to create a narrative 221 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,160 that my behavior extended beyond bad edgy jokes is disgusting and 222 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,600 did not happen. Lava has corroborated Ava's 223 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,800 statement on Twitter, writing I am not a victim and I am not 224 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,320 backpedaling any statements I have already made. 225 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,760 Everything I have stated is still very true. 226 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,760 Nothing bad happened between me and Chris. 227 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,640 People are creating lies around my name. 228 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,160 So Chris is Ava's dead name? In an exclusive interview with 229 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,520 Rolling Stone. Leyva Lava. 230 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,960 Sorry, I don't know what I was just saying. 231 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,080 I don't know if I was saying Lava or Leyva. 232 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,400 I think it's Lava. Lava asserted that certain 233 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,800 creators have been misrepresenting the story to 234 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,400 further their own agendas. In the interview, Lava explained 235 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,600 that he communicated with Ava after she had reached out and 236 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,360 asked him to make a Discord server. 237 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,680 This was back in 2016, so it was a fairly new platform quote. 238 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:13,640 Chris reached out to me and saw I was making Discord for people, 239 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,360 Lava tells Rolling Stone. He was new to it and wanted a 240 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,040 bot that would play lo fi study music, which isn't hard to do. 241 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:23,280 Lava ended up staying in the server after it was built, where 242 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,160 the two would continue to communicate. 243 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,280 In the interview, Lava says that Ava was not aware of their age 244 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,600 gap until 2018, although he, quote, couldn't remember the 245 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,640 specific details of how it came up. 246 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,320 Regarding the quote, UN quote inappropriate conversations 247 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,320 between the two that have recently surfaced, Lava said. 248 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,680 Quote, I was at the age where I spoke to all my friends like 249 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:43,200 that. There was nothing more than 250 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,960 that. It's how Bros talk. 251 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,040 I saw Chris as an older brother because he reminded me a lot of 252 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,200 my older brother. Lava would then go on to work 253 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,800 for Mr. Beast as a production assistant, with Ava helping him 254 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,400 land the job. He later stopped working for Mr. 255 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,400 Beast in May 2021. It has been speculated that the 256 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,600 creators who started pushing the grooming narrative are doing so 257 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,120 for transphobic reasons. Quote one right leaning creator 258 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,440 who had thoughts about Tyson and her transition happened to be 259 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,360 Prism 42A YouTube with 800 subscribers who had found the 260 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,960 messages between Lava and Tyson on 4 Chan. 261 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,840 That was unclear how they ended up there. 262 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,040 Prism felt he needed to get the information out, so he claimed 263 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,600 he contacted 50 creators. Steven Asarsh writes for the 264 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,880 Rolling Stone Quote. Prism then contacted YouTube 265 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,480 Verdis, an 18 year old with 600 subscribers, and had him reach 266 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,360 out to Lava looking to interview him for an editor position. 267 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,680 Verdis tells Rolling Stone he had no idea he was being set up 268 00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:41,960 or that Lava had anything to do with Tyson or Mr. Beast. 269 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,720 He was just looking for an editor. 270 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,320 On June 13th, Verdis and Prism went on to release their own 271 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,800 video about Ava and Lava's messages, but neither reportedly 272 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,120 included the information from Lava's interview. 273 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,720 The video blew up a month later when Androx posted a commentary 274 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,000 video compiling the claims, with many right wing creators 275 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,960 seemingly using the story to spread transphobia. 276 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,720 So Mr. Beast also released his own statement on this last week, 277 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,000 he wrote on Twitter. Over the last few days, I've 278 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,760 become aware of the serious allegations of Ava Tyson's 279 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,800 behavior online and I am disgusted and opposed to such 280 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,680 unacceptable acts. During that time, I have been 281 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:21,600 focused on hiring an independent third party to conduct a 282 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,480 thorough investigation to ensure I have all the facts. 283 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,120 That said, I've seen enough online and take an immediate 284 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,520 action to remove Ava from my company, my channel, and any 285 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,160 association with Mr. Beast. I do not condone or support any 286 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,000 of the inappropriate actions. I will allow the independent 287 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,000 investigators the necessary time to conduct a comprehensive 288 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,600 investigation, and we'll take any further actions based on 289 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,080 their findings. So a lot of people have 290 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,600 commended Mr. Beast for making a public statement very quickly, 291 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,760 taking action. And I agree with that. 292 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:58,240 I think despite Lava's insistence that Eva, you know, 293 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,200 did not groom them, there's a lot of other allegations now 294 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,200 floating around about Eva and people are bringing up old 295 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,480 conversations and whether Lava feels groomed or not. 296 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,920 If the messages are inappropriate, it makes sense 297 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,960 that Mister Beast, as the owner of the company where Ava and 298 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,960 then eventually Lava were representing him, he was putting 299 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,960 them in an environment together like he would need to make sure 300 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,920 he understands everything about the situation. 301 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,600 So that'll make sense. Lava actually responded to Mr. 302 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,400 Beast's tweet, he said. I commend Mr. Beast for taking 303 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,280 the situation seriously and hiring a third party 304 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,280 investigator while also taking the appropriate actions of 305 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,120 cutting ties with Ava. While the allegations involving 306 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,520 my name aren't true, I feel there is still a lot of other 307 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,200 allegations, negations that deserve to be investigated 308 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,360 thoroughly. That's that on that. 309 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:50,800 You know, I might do a deep dive one day on kind of how early 310 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:55,240 intranet was like the Wild West. And I do believe that is the 311 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:00,240 reason that it feels like all of our favorite creators were like 312 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,960 quote UN quote groomers or having like inappropriate 313 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,240 relationships with minors. I think there's like a very big 314 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,160 topic to explore there and I don't even know if I'm really 315 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,240 the right person to do it. I feel like I would probably 316 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:17,040 need an expert online with me. But yes, just another one like 317 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,080 that DJ Khaled sound another one. 318 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,080 All right, guys, well, that's it for today. 319 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,400 Thank you guys so much for listening to Mini Scroll. 320 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,080 If you like this podcast, please rate, review and subscribe. 321 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,760 It helps me so much. Oh yeah, and we also didn't make 322 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,600 it to 5000 subscribers on YouTube. 323 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,520 Obviously, unfortunately, we're not that far off, but like we 324 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,400 didn't make it. So maybe we'll make it by the 325 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,000 end of the week. All right, anyways, thank you 326 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,440 guys. I love you and I will talk to 327 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,360 you tomorrow. Bye.