1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,560 This episode of Mini Scroll is brought to you by The Commons, 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,160 Australia's premium Co working space. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,720 The Commons is truly a main character in the Centennial 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,240 World cinematic universe as the Chippendale location in Sydney 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,360 has been our home for over 5 years and it's where we record 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,480 this podcast every single day. Whether you're a creative 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,640 escaping the Home Office or a business owner looking to scale, 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,920 The Commons offers beautifully designed spaces and a genuine 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,400 sense of community across Sydney and Melbourne. 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,200 And while the spaces are stunning, it's the team that 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,760 really makes a difference. Their support for growing 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,720 businesses has enabled Centennial World's success and 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,600 sometimes survival over the years. 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,040 If you're looking for a Co working space that feels 15 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,000 considered, is community LED and actually backs the people 16 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,280 working there, head to thecommons.com dot AU. 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,920 Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,560 culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,400 media, the creator economy and the digital space. 20 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,200 Every Monday through Thursday and sometimes Fridays. 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,040 I'm your host, Lauren Meissner, the founder of the Australian 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,320 youth digital media brand Centennial World. 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,560 Welcome back to Mini Scroll, everyone. 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,280 OK, I went to the coolest event this morning. 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,520 I need to talk about it. It's not often that I talk about 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,200 brand events that I've gone to, but this one was so special. 27 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,880 So it was for Lush and they took us to the Lush factory in Sydney 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,320 and we got to like make our own Lush products and see how 29 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:29,760 they're made. And it was actually like the 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,240 most fun. I got to make my own bath bomb. 31 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,360 We got to make soap. I got to like decal some soap 32 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,320 and it was really cool. Like I, I guess I've just never 33 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:39,800 thought about how Lush products are made. 34 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,560 I know that they say that they're handmade, but I didn't 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,520 realize like how handmade. Like we got to meet everyone who 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,080 was working on the products in all the different areas. 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,760 It was so cool. It was really amazing to see how 38 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,600 almost it feels almost like still very grass roots. 39 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,720 The brand was behind the scenes. It was so cool. 40 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,080 Oh, we also got to make our own face masks, you know, our fresh 41 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,760 section. So we got to make our own like 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,160 fresh face masks. And it was so much more 43 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,680 impactful to see like how the sausage is made, you know, how 44 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,320 the products are made and to really like understand the 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,760 behind the scenes of the brand and that they truly like 46 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,000 practice what they preach. That was like so much more 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,120 impactful for me than if it was, I don't know, like a breakfast 48 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,560 or some type of like party or something that we often do with 49 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,360 brands. It was such a cool experience. 50 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,640 I had a really good time. So that's what I did before this 51 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,680 all right, before I get into it, Please remember to rate review 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,080 and subscribe and please Spotify star rate US. 53 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,760 OK, the first story that I have for you guys today is Chapel 54 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,920 round is facing mixed reactions after confronting paparazzi. 55 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,680 So a video of Chapel is going viral right now. 56 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,120 In it, she's surrounded by paparazzi, but instead of posing 57 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,000 for them, she starts filming them. 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,760 In the video, Chapel is facing the camera and showing what 59 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,480 seemed to be paparazzi behind her. 60 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,040 And you can hear her saying this is what it's like to be 61 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,200 disregarded as a human. She also points out a specific 62 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,600 person saying this person I've asked several times to go away 63 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,760 and they will not and then she goes on to ask them to stop 64 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,880 following her. Now, like I said, the reaction 65 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,360 has been mixed. Unsurprising with the Internet, 66 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,600 so many people are sympathetic to her. 67 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,720 This is obviously an issue that she's been vocal about across 68 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,000 her career. However, others on social media 69 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,760 are frustrated by her reaction. So for instance 1 user made the 70 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,200 claim that quote celebrities have gotten lamer. 71 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,280 I don't know if I just grew up or if celebrities got lamer and 72 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,040 started acting like normal people larping as celebrities. 73 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,600 They technically have the wealth and status but they have 74 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,680 absolutely no aura. Celebrities used to be a lot 75 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,680 cooler. Everything they do now is so 76 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,760 unbearably forced and cringe. You can tell they go into every 77 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,680 interview or event with the mindset that it will go viral on 78 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,240 social media. They're actively trying to farm 79 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,960 iconic pop culture moments. So I guess they think that this 80 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,040 was Chapel trying to farm an iconic pop culture moment. 81 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,040 It's all impossible to watch without cringing because it's so 82 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,040 glaringly unnatural. It literally feels like we don't 83 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,320 have any new celebrities that are naturally cool. 84 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,040 None of them have aura. They all feel like glorified tik 85 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,080 tokers LMAO. And this particular tweet. 86 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,080 The reason why I'm reading it is because it has over 1.2 million 87 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,320 views. That is a sweeping statement if 88 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,240 I've ever heard one. OG YouTube Tyler Oakley shared a 89 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,279 tweet backing Chapel he wrote. Personally, I like Chapel Roan 90 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,680 establishing her boundaries and not just putting up with those 91 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,480 who don't adhere to them. She already changed how 92 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,720 photographers treat celebrities on red carpets. 93 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,960 Maybe this will change how paparazzi treat celebrities 94 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,400 simply existing in public. OK, so I think there's a couple 95 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,640 things here. First of all, when people say 96 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,800 all like celebrities back in the day, they used to be so much 97 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,400 more appreciative of this attention and paparazzi and 98 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,360 stuff like that. First of all, I absolutely 99 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,080 disagree with that. There were tabloids constantly 100 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,720 that showed photos of celebrities where they were 101 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,480 like, smashing paparazzi's cars and yelling at them and begging 102 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,800 them to leave them alone. I think we feel like it's 103 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,000 happening more now because when one instance like this happens, 104 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,840 it doesn't just get printed in the tabloids. 105 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,840 It's viral across social media for days and days and days. 106 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:09,360 So I feel like that's part of it. 107 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,120 We also usually get footage of the actual, like, exact 108 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,040 interaction, which back in the day we didn't. 109 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,640 We would get like one photo and then the retelling of that 110 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,920 situation, you know, from the tabloid. 111 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,080 Another element here is that celebrities don't just have the 112 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,000 pressure of paparazzi surveillance now, but they also 113 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,920 have the pressure of social media surveillance. 114 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,520 So I understand why modern day celebrities feel more and more 115 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:34,320 out of control in terms of their ability to like lead any type of 116 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,160 like normal personal life because they probably feel so 117 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,640 constantly surveilled, like they can't go do anything because if 118 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,320 it's not a paparazzi filming them, it's a random person 119 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,560 that's going to go put it on TikTok. 120 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,440 And then everyone's going to take it out of context and 121 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,520 they're going to go viral for something that they may or may 122 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,760 not have even done. Plus, back in the day, there 123 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,040 were some really horrible things that happened with paparazzi and 124 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,360 celebrities being driven off roads, sometimes getting really 125 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,640 injured by trying to escape paparazzi, occasionally getting 126 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,440 killed trying to escape paparazzi. 127 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,760 Like there were some horrific things that were happening in 128 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:10,040 like the late 90s, early 2000s. So the sentiment that 129 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,920 celebrities now are just like, not as cool and they just like, 130 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,960 can't hack it the way that like OG celebrities back in the day 131 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,800 could is so misguided. I think it's totally untrue. 132 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,360 And what Tyler Oakley wrote is true. 133 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,640 So many celebrities have come out and said that because Chapel 134 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,520 started standing up for herself against the photographers on red 135 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,600 carpets that the photographers treat them differently now. 136 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:36,600 So I agree with him that, you know, she did make headway there 137 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,600 and I don't know, maybe this is the next iteration of that. 138 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,720 But I do think unfortunately, to make that change, like Chapel 139 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,160 has to become the spectacle, which of course comes with like 140 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,040 so much backlash, so much discourse, so much opinion that 141 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,920 is probably so challenging to manage. 142 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,920 So I also understand why she likes to retreat from the public 143 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,720 eye and has a very complicated relationship with it. 144 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,320 OK, the next right that I have for you guys today, if you guys 145 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,600 are in our Discord, then you will have seen that I shared a 146 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,760 very small insight, a very small tippet of how many comes to 147 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,280 life. Yesterday I posted this in 148 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,360 Discord of how many comes to life, how we pick the stories. 149 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,320 And it was just messages between Annabelle and I and I basically 150 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,360 wrote OK, Timothy Jesselyn jealousy girl backlash and Mera 151 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,360 beauty caught using creators videos as ads unpaid. 152 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,720 And then tomorrow I'll do the vegetables. 153 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,240 And then Annabelle wrote that sentence is crazy heart. 154 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,080 And so people in the discord were like, I'm very excited to 155 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,000 see what you mean by tomorrow I'll do the vegetables. 156 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,560 So we're talking about the vegetables, we're talking about 157 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,480 the fruit and vegetable brain rot that is literally taking 158 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,240 over everyone's For You page right now. 159 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,120 If you haven't seen it, this is going to sound insane, but AI 160 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,000 generated fruits and vegetables are dominating the For You page 161 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,720 Now. The reason why they're 162 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,240 dominating is because these videos have plot and drama. 163 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,320 It's like watching mini soap operas on your phone on TikTok, 164 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,400 but instead of humans or cartoons, it's AI generated 165 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,840 fruits and vegetables playing out this plot and drama for you. 166 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,440 So for example, some stories might start with a strawberry 167 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,840 cheating on her banana husband and then having a baby out of 168 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,680 the affair. Other stories show various 169 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,560 fruits getting kicked out of their homes or even ending 170 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,000 relationships because they can't stop farting so much. 171 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,440 OK, like it's unhinged. There doesn't seem to be one 172 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,560 single account posting these stories, which is also 173 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,440 interesting. So it's unclear if it was like 174 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,360 one account started posting it, they were going viral, and then 175 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,080 others started adopting this or if it's like a strategy, like I 176 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:40,159 imagine it could be like a media brand. 177 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:43,200 Do you guys remember this was years ago when we all found out 178 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,400 that this number of drama channels that were like cartoon 179 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,960 and voiced that they were all owned by this media company 180 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,120 based in Canada. And they've been producing these 181 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,280 channels and getting like millions of views, some of the 182 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,640 millions of subscribers. And people thought that there 183 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,360 was like a single human behind them, but turns out it was 184 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,560 actually just like a media conglomerate behind them. 185 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,040 I feel like it could also be that that could be happening 186 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,440 here. And part of that is because 187 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,440 there are some key characters that come up again and again, 188 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,760 like Water Molina, Pupita and Strawberrita. 189 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,600 OK, so this style of content is very reminiscent of Italian 190 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,080 brain rot, which took over the Internet last year. 191 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,400 It's the genre of almost like surrealist memes. 192 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,000 Like, that's probably the best way to describe it. 193 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,920 And I think on one hand, people enjoy it because it's so 194 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,400 absurdist. It's so surreal. 195 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,160 And you're kind of like, what is happening here. 196 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,640 Of course, you can't really look away. 197 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,040 Aside from the initial shock value, I think they get popular 198 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,840 partly because we like an escape and because it is so unrealistic 199 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,800 and so removed from real life. It's escapism. 200 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,680 But I also think because I know I say this all the time on Mini, 201 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:50,360 but people like to feel in on the joke. 202 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,160 These videos are getting millions of views, but they're 203 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,520 also still like very niche and very new. 204 00:09:55,560 --> 00:09:58,240 And I think people like feeling like they are part of something 205 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,200 that's like a niche in joke right now. 206 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,800 And Speaking of people who like to be in on the joke, Tricia 207 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,880 Paytas is commenting on like all of them. 208 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,240 She'll be in the comments like, oh, this was a good one or one 209 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,400 that she commented on yesterday. She wrote the pair was valid for 210 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,480 that one, and it's the pair leaving a banana because she 211 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,880 farts too much. So if anyone has any insight 212 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,000 into who's creating these, please let me know. 213 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,400 Let me know if my conspiracy theory about a media 214 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,760 conglomerate opening a bunch of accounts and doing this, if 215 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:25,920 that's accurate. OK. 216 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,320 And the last story that I have for you guys today is Australian 217 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,440 influencers Sam Guggenheimer, as in Sam Guggs and Bill Barker 218 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,360 have apologized after posting a controversial TikTok video about 219 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,960 finding a new flatmate. OK, so Sam's moving out of her 220 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,760 house. She was making a video talking 221 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,160 about how she's looking for someone to move into her room. 222 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,480 And then Bill is in the background and this is what 223 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:46,840 happened. Everything. 224 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,640 You can even have a picture of me on on the wall that you need. 225 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,440 You're still be a skinny girl that. 226 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,840 No, you can have drawers. Lily's not living. 227 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,240 With a fatty. Covered Bill What the. 228 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:04,960 Fuck. That is so fucking true. 229 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,280 That is so true. Though no it is not. 230 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,760 So they got a ton of backlash for that. 231 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,120 Obviously it's a very fat phobic thing to say. 232 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,240 There were a lot of people who felt like Sam, even though she 233 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,400 was saying like, oh, that's not true. 234 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,960 And she obviously didn't seem to be supporting it in the moment. 235 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,040 People thought that she was like smirking. 236 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,440 People felt like, oh, maybe they talk like this in private to 237 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,680 each other, whatever. And there are also theories that 238 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:31,200 Sam posted this to make herself look better because she 239 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,800 obviously reacted in shock and was saying, like, that's not 240 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,320 true at all. And then he's like, please 241 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,680 delete that. And she was like, no, I'm 242 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:40,840 leaving it in. So then this escalated because 243 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,680 they went on live together to address the backlash. 244 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,040 And Sam basically said, you know, this is how we joke around 245 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,920 together. But on the Internet, jokes and 246 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,400 we make silly things all the time, and sometimes it's not 247 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,720 appropriate to put it on the Internet. 248 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,120 And I will admit, Bill asked me to delete it. 249 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,480 I still thought it was funny. I didn't think it'd get taken 250 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,720 out of the context. But again, I forget that the 251 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,560 Internet doesn't know how to take a joke sometimes and it was 252 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:05,640 purely an inside joke. If James Charleston say block me 253 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:08,680 down fat. Yeah, it was just like a. 254 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:14,720 After this disastrous live situation, the backlash kept 255 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,280 escalating. And then Sam posted this. 256 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:20,680 A few days ago, I shared a video that included a conversation 257 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:23,160 which should have never happened and absolutely should never have 258 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,840 been posted online. The language used in that moment 259 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,720 was inappropriate and unacceptable. 260 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,440 I want to make it clear that the comments made were never 261 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,080 directed at any specific person or influencer. 262 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,960 However, I understand that regardless of intent, what was 263 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,240 said was offensive and hurtful. I take full responsibility for 264 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,040 posting the video without properly reviewing it 265 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,080 beforehand. That was a mistake and it does 266 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,240 not excuse what was said. I should have exercised better 267 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,080 judgment. I'm genuinely sorry to anyone 268 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,640 who was hurt by my actions. I take accountability for this 269 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,840 and will ensure to learn from it and do better moving forward. 270 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,400 Now near the end of the video, the original video, you can hear 271 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,360 them mention an influencer. I think they mentioned SOPA DOPA 272 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,080 but they like mute that section. I'm not adding it out, just. 273 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,880 Careful because you have a phone calls coming out. 274 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,320 So people are like, OK, so you were editing the video enough to 275 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,480 like mute a specific section so Sofajova's name wasn't in the 276 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,480 video, but you didn't think to cut that part out? 277 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,600 And then here is Bill's apology. I. 278 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,240 Just want to say how genuinely sorry I am for the comments I 279 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,640 made in that video from the bottom of my fucking heart. 280 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,120 I'm so sorry. Matter what context I say my 281 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,960 words in, they still carry meaning and they were wrong and 282 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,440 it was unacceptable. I just want to preface clearly 283 00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:41,080 that those comments were directed at no person, no one. 284 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,160 Regardless, I said it and I have to take responsibility for that. 285 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,360 I should know it better than anybody how impactful comments 286 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,640 are about other people's bodies. My body was my biggest 287 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:55,960 insecurity growing up and it really it hurts me more than 288 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,840 anything to know that my words have contributed to people 289 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,800 feeling that way. I can't express enough how 290 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:07,560 damaging that kind of thing is to post in 2026. 291 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,280 There is so much discussion right now about how skinny is 292 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,280 back. Everybody is shrinking. 293 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,320 The pendulum has swung so far. Like, we made so much headway 294 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:23,520 from like the early 2000s where we saw so many of our favorite 295 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,840 celebrities just waste away. Culture did make positive 296 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,200 headway on that. And we are slipping so far back 297 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,600 and it's so scary to see. I'm so terrified for all the 298 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,920 girls and young women now. Like being a 90s baby. 299 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,800 I was born in 91, you know, like peak early 2000s culture was so 300 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,760 fucked up. I can't tell you how much it 301 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,920 messed up all of my friends and I. 302 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,680 And I think we were so happy to feel like, OK, we actually like 303 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,520 made some headway here. We made some progress here. 304 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,400 And and it's all getting taken away and to have something like 305 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,440 this posted where you're making a joke, quote UN quote joke like 306 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,480 that, it's so toxic. It just reaffirms everything 307 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,400 that we're all afraid of right now. 308 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,600 That's coming back. This culture and the doubling 309 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,920 down on the live before the actual quote UN quote actual 310 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,760 apologies. No, anyways, guys, that's it for 311 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,200 mini scroll today. Thank you so much for listening. 312 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,480 I love you guys. Please remember to rate review 313 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,360 and subscribe, please Spotify star rate US. 314 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,040 I love you and Annabelle will talk to you guys tomorrow and 315 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,800 then I will talk to you on Thursday. 316 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:22,480 Bye.