1 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,000 How heavy are you? Like how tall are you? 2 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,040 First that. 6 foot 6, 170 kilos at the moment. 3 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,760 Jesus Christ. As I've had a new weight 4 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,800 recently, I used to be like normally sitting around about 5 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,240 160 kilos. But the last couple of months of 6 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,200 protecting healers offers a reason. 7 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,760 Not actually trying to put on weight, but is that muscle? 8 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,200 I don't know. I'd say I'd say it's more fat. 9 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,160 But you know, they say mass moves mass. 10 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:52,720 So you'll see how we go. Yeah, I'll take it. 11 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,120 Well, there, I've got you down here because you're the you're 12 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,840 the perfect person now to talk about how we can get stronger. 13 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,520 So if what if someone wants to achieve absolute like silverback 14 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,519 gorilla strength? How do they do it? 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,480 How are they changing? How are they training? 16 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,240 How is it different to just regular? 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,200 You know bro, split three, three sets of 10 up the gym. 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,560 Obviously, obviously, first of all, get a strongman coach. 19 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,040 Obviously they'll dile you a plan in then obviously you stick 20 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,840 to our plan. If you're consistent and you 21 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,120 fall all the way through, then at the end you will get 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,480 stronger. It's it's less reps So saves 23 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,880 about half an hour of a bodybuilder and said about 3-3, 24 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,160 say three sets of five. Well, that'll be about it then. 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,680 Really, is it? What movements are you doing? 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,680 Like how are they different? Because you're not looking to. 27 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,920 It's not, it's not bodybuilding, is it? 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,600 No, you're not. You're not trying to get the 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,840 pump. We, well, my course is obviously 30 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,320 so sad to me as you stick to your squats and your dead lifts 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,080 in the week, you work on then overhead and events then 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,280 obviously over the weekend and things like that. 33 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:54,800 Yeah. And. 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,240 What What's like the most important movements you need to 35 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,400 be doing? If it's for strongman now or for 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,600 getting strength? What are the most important 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,360 movements? Squats and dead lifts definitely 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,760 because it's sort of all round. You know, if you're doing dead 39 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,160 lifts, you work in your, your hamstrings, glutes, your back. 40 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,800 And squats, same thing you know, with the quads and legs log then 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,080 mainly fall overhead. What's a log? 42 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,520 Like big metal log, not sometimes use the old wooden 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,200 ones. Metal we sort of use nowadays, 44 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,840 but. What like a proper tree? 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,240 No, it's like a big, big metal sort of drum type thing, handles 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,960 in the middle, sort of flip it to your chest and then press 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,320 overhead then. So yeah, they range it obviously 48 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,040 vary in weight. You know, the one we normally 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,160 sort of warm up on is 56 kilos empty. 50 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,560 We woke up to something like 150 and. 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,080 That's warm up. Yeah. 52 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:48,680 And there's me in my little gym doing like 30 kilograms thinking 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,280 I'm getting stronger, like, and you're going up to what, 150? 54 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,240 Obviously when I had the Welsh just gone, it was sort of more 55 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,600 of like a jerk block log press wasn't like sort of clean and 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,000 press and I hit 160 on that in the Welsh. 57 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,480 Jesus Christ, that's that's like 2 of me. 58 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,680 Yeah, was my old body weight. What? 59 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,000 Yeah, it's Jesus Christ. Like, that's nuts. 60 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,320 So like how are you breaking down your training then? 61 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,720 What does your training look like? 62 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,640 Are you going in doing the heavy sets? 63 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,760 And then are you mixing up a bit of sort of hypertrophy? 64 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,280 Does that play a part at all or is it just heavy heavy heavy? 65 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,640 No. So obviously the beginning of 66 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:29,720 say either had nine week plans or 12 week plans. 67 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,880 Obviously at the beginning and it's sort of the lighter stuff 68 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,200 and you sort of mix up in between and then drop back down. 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,880 And then at the end then you got like ADD load week was what my 70 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,440 sort of my coach gives me. And then at the end then we go 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,200 for a like, say do a personal best then. 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:46,040 Is it? Yeah. 73 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,040 Hopefully. What? 74 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,120 What sort of volume are you lifting in in a session? 75 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,720 Do you know you have you had it up? 76 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,840 My last deadlift session was which was Tuesday. 77 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,960 Did three sets of five of 220 and then it dropped back down 78 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:02,240 there. Did 170, but it was like half 79 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:08,200 reps into then full same, same sets working weights, three sets 80 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,080 of five and then you got the accessory work. 81 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,840 Then afterwards that which would be like Bulgarian split squats, 82 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,680 leg press, things like that, like you know. 83 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,200 Yeah, so it's like the, the core of the workout is probably like 84 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,480 this, this your main focus, the the, you know, the deadlifts and 85 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,280 then you'll gain do do you ever train to failure or is it, do 86 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:31,360 you leave something in the tank? Is it like you leave a Rep or 87 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,960 two? I think the only time I've ever 88 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,720 sort of gone to failure is on PBD because you sort of push in 89 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,720 that boundary then to see a fire, you can go, you know? 90 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:42,320 Is that an injury thing? Like you don't want to be 91 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,720 because you're dealing with such massive weights. 92 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,200 You don't want to push yourself to failure every time. 93 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,680 I say for myself obviously because I get a plan sent to me, 94 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,640 obviously from my court. I just listen to what my court 95 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,280 says and obviously sort of progressed that way then, but 96 00:04:57,280 --> 00:04:59,360 it's never sort of been training to failure. 97 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,840 The only sort of time it has been is if we're going for like, 98 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:04,920 say Max reps. So if you set something for me, 99 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:10,320 like I know some not so long ago, I had 320 on the deadlift 100 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,280 for Max reps I managed three. I was aiming some sort of five. 101 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:18,480 But when you're on that sort of third Rep, you feel like you're 102 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,880 going to shit yourself. And have you? 103 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,880 No, not, not yet. I thought I did, but not yet. 104 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,040 But that's sort of the only time we will train the failure 105 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,080 really. And what's your week look like? 106 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,440 So are you training 5-6 times a week? 107 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,120 Three times a week? Off say offseason. 108 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:39,320 So in offseason is about 3 * a week and then when it comes into 109 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,280 comp prep, you're sort of looking about 4-5. 110 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:43,040 That's. That's less than I thought it'd 111 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,200 be. I I thought it'd be like 112 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,400 everyday smashing it and something like that. 113 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,520 No, you've got to obviously get your recovery and things like 114 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,880 that, you know, like ice baths, you, you know, food, sleep 115 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,080 things are rest days, but like sort of active recovery, if that 116 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,560 makes sense. I go for a walk or something 117 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,800 like that. Just still keep moving. 118 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,400 Obviously just keeps the gears greased like yeah, and I'm 119 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,200 training every day. I can get behind a walk. 120 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,280 I can definitely do that. Yeah, I'm, I'm all, I'm all over 121 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:07,760 a walk. Stick some headphones then go 122 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,360 for a walk. Or the Rockman podcast, 123 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,240 obviously. That's it. 124 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,360 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so do you focus on certain 125 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:17,680 body parts in those? See those 3-4 sessions you're 126 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,680 doing? Is it sort of like right, this 127 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,040 is a legs day, this is an upper body day, or is it push press 128 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,680 legs or is it total body three times a week? 129 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:35,480 I would say out of comp prep it'll be dead lifts so back then 130 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,920 squats, then shoulders or pressing then in the end of the 131 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,040 week or legs on a Sunday so. What was that? 132 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,720 That was was it legs? Dead lifts. 133 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Squats and then shoulders or pressing then on the weekend 134 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,480 then if it's if it's offseason and then depending what sort of 135 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,520 events we've got in comps that that can change things up then. 136 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,000 Which one's your favorite? Which one's your favorite day? 137 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,840 I'd say over squats of deadlift, you'd have to be deadlift. 138 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:03,480 Really. Yeah, I like, I like 139 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,280 deadlifting. There's something about lifting 140 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:07,880 a huge amount of weight off the floor. 141 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:09,760 It is a huge amount of weight, yeah. 142 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,120 And I mean, especially, you know, when you're hitting, say 143 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,280 new PBS, like I hit the new one not so long ago, like 3:30. 144 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:22,320 So I'm trying, I'm trying to push it to say 350 without dead 145 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,160 of suit. So if I can hit the raw, I'll be 146 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,840 over the moment that's. Insane. 147 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,800 Would you ever get up to something like what like Thor 148 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,800 and Eddie Hall are doing? Be happy, happy, something I 149 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,600 don't know. I just, you know, as I say, as 150 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,360 long as you stay consistent and you keep pushing, who knows? 151 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,920 You know, you'll end up like, I never know, I'll get to 330. 152 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,560 But over the last I've been training now five years 153 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,200 competing for, well, this is my fourth year competing. 154 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,800 I never know how to get to 330, but listening to the court, you 155 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,560 know, following a weekend, week out and we've got there. 156 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,280 Yeah, you'll be happy to hear that you're following it like. 157 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,480 Yeah, you do get some bad days, like we tend to sort of push 158 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,600 through them and in the end, obviously it pays off. 159 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,400 Right, I know everyone here hates adverts, but this one 160 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,080 actually keeps the light on here at Rockman, so bear with me. 161 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,560 Rockman runs monthly online running and fitness challenges, 162 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,400 but people short on time that still want a proper challenge to 163 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,680 spike their motivation. 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I mean, I mean, sometimes you 174 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:50,720 could be there, rest there, maybe 3 to 5 minutes, yeah, say 175 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:55,240 3 minutes maximum if you can. But some days, I mean, depend 176 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,520 how you're feeling, you could take up to maybe 10. 177 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,040 Yeah, if you're having a bad day, you you're struggling as 178 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,480 long as but how I see if you are struggling as long as you keep 179 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,760 pushing through then you you'll be fine. 180 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,040 So you do go and feel then It's not like someone's got to watch 181 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,360 you're feeling. Yeah, I go and feel like, yeah, 182 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,280 say if I do like one set, like I'll call wrestling, I got a 183 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,000 drink, you know, either whether it's a monster or some water, 184 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,960 like, you know, and then go for the second because obviously you 185 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,720 sort of tie it down for towards the end. 186 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,440 So when you come and say like your last set, you're like, 187 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,400 right, one more. And then once you've finished, 188 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,240 then it's like, I go for that. If it's on a bad day, if it's on 189 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,680 a good day and you're smashing it, then you're fine. 190 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,920 And how, how does it differ? It's sort of like in your speed 191 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,040 of your movements. Is it just get it up as quick as 192 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,480 you can or or do you, do you have some sort of tempo like 193 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,160 where it's like right, take 3 seconds up, two seconds down or 194 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,840 something? I would say like obviously for 195 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,360 myself, especially with deadlift and I'm sort of more of a slow 196 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,560 puller. So like I'd sort of get the bar, 197 00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:00,200 he's slow pulling it up. Whereas one of the boys that 198 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,720 trains with me, he sort of like fast twitch fibres. 199 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,000 He's like buff explosive, you know. 200 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,440 So it varies really with the person. 201 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,160 What would you say is best? I would say the the fast twitch 202 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,360 really, because if you're, if you're slow moving with every 203 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,040 week there's a bigger chanting in it back down to the floor. 204 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,320 I suppose you're holding it for longer as. 205 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,120 Well, yeah, so that's it. What's the most important 206 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,520 exercise you think that people should be doing then if they if 207 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,520 they want to get stronger? I would say deadlifts mainly 208 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:32,720 because it sort of attacks most of the muscle parts, but it is 209 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,480 all important like, you know, to get stronger. 210 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,920 It is all important to train every single one that we can't 211 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,120 just deadlift on his own and think you can press A160 log. 212 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,360 You know, you've got, you've got to train it all to sort of get 213 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,240 stronger. Is it about sort of 214 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,040 concentrating on different body parts then? 215 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,040 So it's like you train legs, make sure you get legs. 216 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,480 Would that be the most important part? 217 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,800 Get your legs in first. Yes, yeah, say so. 218 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,280 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you had to do only one 219 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,840 session for the rest of your life, like you could only do 5 220 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,920 moves for the rest of your life, what 5 moves would you want to 221 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,880 be doing? Well, squats, dead lifts, log 222 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,160 stones, the Atlas stones and yoke. 223 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,280 What's a yoke? Just like like the frames, that 224 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,520 thing goes over your shoulders, new, old, onto the sides and you 225 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,040 sort of walked on the track with it like. 226 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,640 Like because I think the yoke and maybe the outlet stones are 227 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,400 the famous ones that you see all the time every Christmas on 228 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,520 World's Strongest Man and stuff. Where'd you buy an Atlas stone? 229 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,320 I know Atlas Endurance, they've got sort of the best stones on 230 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,040 the market at the moment. So if you give him a message, 231 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,800 they it's awesome that on for you. 232 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,360 But yeah, some places like that, really. 233 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:48,720 And how heavy do they go up to? Varies sort of. 234 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,800 Not in like, say competition, it'll go up to about 200 in a 235 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:58,560 run, but I know they go way higher than I like 222-3250, you 236 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:04,280 know, past, I think Tom Stoltman's done 2270, something 237 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:05,680 like that. What sort of height do they 238 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:06,680 have? What's the height of the 239 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:08,560 platforms? Do they have to get them on? 240 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,040 On our feet, I think is the lowest. 241 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,520 Because I watched, I saw a video of the other day of you lifting, 242 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,720 was it 150 kilogram sandbag? Or the 1160? 243 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,520 Or the 160K sandbag. Six, I'm selling it short. 244 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,680 Like, yeah, it's 160. Yeah, new PB, that was for me. 245 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,520 So yeah, I was surprised. I've done it took it took all 246 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,560 out me like, but because it's like you get to your chest just 247 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:38,000 pushing down on your chest and you'd like feel like you're 248 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,920 going to pass out, but you just got to keep going till it gets 249 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,080 there and then put it down. That's fucking awkward. 250 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,240 That's the thing. Like it's an awkward thing. 251 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,160 As I say, different ways of picking up. 252 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,400 I think because of my long levers, I picked up. 253 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,840 So maybe the wrong position, but he went white with three. 254 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,640 So picked up once it's on the lap and it's like, right, which 255 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,760 way am I going to go over this, scoop it up up that way. 256 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:03,560 But I should have picked up sort of maybe central and then flip 257 00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:04,680 it that way. What I would have thought would 258 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:09,240 have been easier, but I think when I go for the heavier weight 259 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,760 now because I'm looking at sort of maybe trying to push that to 260 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,560 185 because my coach has done 183. 261 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,560 So you just want to beat him? So, well, I just want to sort of 262 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,520 just get past that. I know if I can get up to his 263 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,040 level, I know I'm all right. Yeah, yeah, definitely. 264 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,400 Who is your coach? Mark Jeans. 265 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,040 Mark Jeans, Is he a former strongman? 266 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,880 Yeah, he's won the Welsh five times. 267 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,040 Is he? Yeah, he's a bit of a veteran in 268 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,960 the in the sport, like, you know, so. 269 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,440 You couldn't have a better coach then. 270 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,440 No, no, he is fair play to him. You know, I've been with him now 271 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,280 five years and you know, he's, he's always looked after me. 272 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,480 So I mean, you know, he's got me to win the Welsh. 273 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,480 So can't, can't complain too much. 274 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:49,840 Oh. No, you can't complain at all. 275 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,080 So for people that don't know, you've just been crowned Wales 276 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,840 Strongest Man? Yeah, yeah. 277 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,320 How did you end up becoming Wales Strongest Man? 278 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,840 Consistency. Is that it? 279 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,560 Yeah, Consistency, discipline, obviously making sure 280 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:13,640 everything's on point and obviously the team as well that 281 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,840 I've got behind me, you know, like I got sports massage, 282 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:25,360 chiropractor, supplements as well, obviously my partner as 283 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,840 well. Making sure that you know, 284 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,360 you're not missing training, you're not missing the day, and 285 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,800 making sure that you stick inconsistent and yeah, paid off. 286 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,120 How consistent have you been then? 287 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,920 If you if you stuck, you haven't missed a session. 288 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,080 For five years or didn't obviously leading up to that 289 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,880 Welsh, I was very consistent. Unless you've got injuries that 290 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,320 are sort of maybe putting you out a little bit, then there's 291 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,200 no reason for why you cannot be consistent. 292 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,560 Even if you are feeling bad, you've still got to keep pushing 293 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,120 forward like you know, because depends how much it means to you 294 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,640 as well. Like you know, I'm obviously 295 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,520 winning. I'm men a lot, so you got to 296 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,360 keep going like. Where'd you put the trophy? 297 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,760 In my living room, in my living room, under the table, not 298 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:13,520 table, sorry under the TV on the mantelpiece where it's actually 299 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,240 obviously got a thought of me and my daughter on it as well, 300 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,440 because obviously what I'm doing is all for her as well. 301 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:26,800 So, you know, since like she was born, obviously sort of give me 302 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,600 that fire and to sort of, you know, I want to I got to do 303 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:36,320 something new to obviously the when she's older, she gets like, 304 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,600 if I do make it a world and say A1 world strongest man, you 305 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,920 know, she can be like, well, my dad was the world's strongest 306 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,800 man. And when she's in school and 307 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,080 telling that story, like, you know. 308 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,360 Yeah, how old is she? She's 7 at the moment. 309 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,120 My daughter's about to turn 7 as well. 310 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,720 I've got, I've got. Yeah, I know, I've got. 311 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,800 So I know exactly what I mean. It's a powerful motivate, a 312 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,640 light just. Yeah, yeah. 313 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,280 You know, as I said, it gives you that fire and to know that 314 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:05,360 if you get there one day to make that story come true, then, you 315 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,720 know, it sort of fills your heart with love and then you 316 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,080 know what I mean? Same sort of aspirations as 317 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,640 Eddie all out see because he said the same sort of thing so. 318 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,360 He said. I remember him saying you've, 319 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,000 you've probably, you've almost definitely seen the clip when 320 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,240 he, he was thinking how, how do these, how can I get the extra 321 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,600 edge when I'm lifting? And he, he, he heard stories 322 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,680 about how like women can lift cars off their kids and stuff 323 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,280 like that. They just get this surge of 324 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,640 energy and power. The fight or flight scenario and 325 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,400 he's, yeah, I remember him saying he, I think when they see 326 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,080 like a lot of psychologists or something to sort of, I think 327 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,400 what he'd done. Then in the end, he sort of 328 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,000 painted up an image so much in his head that his kids were 329 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,000 stuck under a car and without, you know, he's going to lift 330 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,160 this weight in order to free his kids. 331 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,800 And that's sort of always playing through his head and to 332 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,920 sort of get that half a ton off the floor. 333 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,040 It was, it was that world record, wasn't it for the half 334 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,080 the time like yeah, do you, do you, Do you utilize any sort of 335 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,800 visualization like that yourself or? 336 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,480 I saw them got to that weight around near that weight yet. 337 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,640 But yeah, like they say, we're like anger and things like that. 338 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,200 They're like tremendous motivators as sort of make sure 339 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,560 you get our weight above the floor. 340 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,760 So I mean, I haven't sort of hit that barrier yet, but probably 341 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,480 when I get to maybe like around maybe 350 now, 380 around that 342 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,280 mark, I'll need it I think. So you said, you said anger 343 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,160 there like you, you do you think about stuff like that, then it's 344 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,160 like you have to get angry with the weight. 345 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,400 Yeah. I mean, sort of if you think 346 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,120 about, you know, everything that goes on in your life and sort of 347 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:44,480 like some adversity or whatever, say, you know, no, I'll show you 348 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,320 and you sort of targeted into that session and both weights 349 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,280 are flying. Did you ever did you ever find 350 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,960 like you had like maybe naysayers or people like the 351 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,400 sort of didn't believe that you'd ever become? 352 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,280 Yeah, obviously when I was in school, I didn't do well in 353 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,280 school. I hardly, I was there, I didn't 354 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,240 like school very much all the time. 355 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,200 When I, you know, the kids, I was in school, they're like, oh, 356 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,880 you're not going to do anything with your life and you're not 357 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,320 going to do this, You're not going to do that. 358 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,960 Well, I just ignored all. I'm just, I knew what I was 359 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,480 going to do. So you know, just cracked on. 360 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,240 You must have been so much bigger than them though. 361 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:22,440 Yeah, yeah. It was the the biggest in my 362 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,520 school at at that time, Yeah. How did you did? 363 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,640 How did you used to train? Because you said you've been 364 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,880 into strongman for five years or you've only had a coach for five 365 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:30,320 years. Have you? 366 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,000 Have you always done strongman or you? 367 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,120 No, I, I just sort of done like sort of normal gym stuff, like, 368 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:37,840 you know, bodybuilding type work or whatever. 369 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,520 And like I had loads of people around me like, oh, you should 370 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,320 get in the strongman and do this and do that. 371 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,880 I was like, yeah, OK, so I sort of, you know, took that advice 372 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:57,040 on board and I messaged one of the boys I knew who was in the 373 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,640 strongman. So I messaged him. 374 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,240 I said, oh, you don't got, you don't have any equipment for 375 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,400 sale. And he said no, but I know a guy 376 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,120 that has, and he also does coaching. 377 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:09,760 And I was like, all right, OK, so you give me his number. 378 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,480 And I messaged him asking him, you know, have you got any 379 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,600 equipment for sale or whatever? He didn't have the time. 380 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,800 And then he actually offered me coaching as well, which was 381 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,320 Mark. And I was like, yeah, OK, so. 382 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,480 And I've been with him ever since. 383 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,520 So have you only been in it for five years? 384 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,200 Yeah, training strongman, five years. 385 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,720 And you're always already Welsh, tramp. 386 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,200 Yeah, my third time. Third time lucky as well, funny 387 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,720 enough. Are you always a strong guy? 388 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,040 Yeah, pretty much. I'd say so, yeah. 389 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,680 Like obviously when I was younger, I was here, my father, 390 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,400 he's a builder, so obviously it was a go to work with him a 391 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,920 couple of times. They're carrying the breeze 392 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,160 blocks and things. They asked bags of cement, 393 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,600 whatever, you know. So yeah, I've always been 394 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,720 strong, but not as strong as I am now. 395 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,080 And it's great to see as well that you can, you know, if you 396 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,400 put your mind to something and you. 397 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,280 Stay consistent. You can actually get something 398 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,880 out of it as well. Absolutely. 399 00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:07,600 Did your dad pay you for the work? 400 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,240 Because I used to do. I used to do. 401 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,600 I used to help my dad because he was a landscape gardener at one 402 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,240 point and he gave me missing moving these massive slabs, 403 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,040 paving slabs. And he said I'll pay you 20P per 404 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,440 slab and I couldn't even lift 1. So he's like there we had no 405 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,080 money for your life, your dad pay. 406 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:23,480 You. No. 407 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,160 Well, funny enough, because I didn't go to school. 408 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,440 If I didn't go to school, you'd take me to work with him. 409 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,200 So sort of, I wasn't sort of missing out and I sort of rather 410 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,080 work with him then go to school. And obviously I find that with 411 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:43,080 that sort of situation, you sort of learn more, I find then when 412 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,960 you would be in school, you know, when I found anyway. 413 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,480 Yeah, but you're learning in situation, aren't you? 414 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,280 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like that. 415 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,040 Yeah. Life experiencing. 416 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,600 Yeah. So and that's that's what I did. 417 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,240 But funny enough, I never become a builder. 418 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Now I'm a security guard. Yeah, I can see why you ain't 419 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,160 got a mess like a. Bit of security guard now in the 420 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,560 last nine years, yeah, in a shopper centre and flashy. 421 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,600 So yeah, still there. Yeah, still doing it. 422 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,120 Chasing the cheeky little nipples. 423 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,560 That's it, yeah, cheeky little shoplifters like. 424 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,000 As as winner of Wales is Strongman now what? 425 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,320 What do you see is the difference between people like 426 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,800 you who are lifting the trophies and and the people who come in 427 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,680 2nd and 3rd and 4th? What? 428 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,640 What is there a difference that you can see? 429 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,560 I would say they haven't worked hard enough. 430 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,800 Shots fired there then. They need to work harder. 431 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:42,840 Same for myself. Obviously. 432 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,760 You know, I do get it. Obviously everyone, we get them 433 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,480 bad days. But if you've got that mentality 434 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,280 where you just keep pushing through but then it'll pay off. 435 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,240 And that's it. That's sort of being the message 436 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,680 that you're pushing is, is this consistency stick at it, trust 437 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,600 the process and it and it will come. 438 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,200 No shortcuts, right? That's it. 439 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,720 What about nutrition? Well, funny, I thought you 440 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,320 mentioned that. I did have a nutritionist a 441 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,440 couple of months ago. I was, I was a Stanley for an 442 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,440 American guy. He's known as the world's 443 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,760 strongest bodybuilder. So I was with him for two months 444 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,320 and then I saw and it worked great. 445 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,280 Fair play to him. You know, it was a great 446 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,120 nutrition plan and things and it worked really well. 447 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,320 But I just sort of fell off the bandwagon and I think and the 448 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:36,640 cravings took over. Like, you know, they took over 449 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,480 and I sort of fell off that bandwagon. 450 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,360 But I mean, that was before the Welsh as well. 451 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:50,000 So as I said, for nutrition, they say like, oh, you've got to 452 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,640 eat loads of food to get big and strong. 453 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,400 And this idea the my opinion, I don't think that's the case. 454 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,800 I mean, you don't have to be like, say my size to be really 455 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,800 strong because I mean, there's some of the other like weighing 456 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,240 like 85 kilos and they're definitely over like 300 kilos. 457 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,800 And yeah, it's nuts, you know what I mean? 458 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,640 So I don't believe in that myself, but as long as you try 459 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,520 and stay healthy, I think you've got to in this sport, it's all 460 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,640 about longevity. I think like you've got to do it 461 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,240 the healthier way. I think obviously not myself at 462 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,600 the moment, but I'm trying to get back into that, that stride 463 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,320 of doing it healthy. But obviously I'm not lost wrong 464 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,360 and my blood's done and they're not too bad. 465 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:40,880 So my OK I've got my chance here to get back healthy so. 466 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,800 What are your voices? Oh yeah, sweet tooth fair. 467 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,720 Like, you know, you got your ice creams and your chocolate. 468 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,000 Yeah, definitely ice cream. Or you know, like sometimes a 469 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,280 mom and ice cream every single night before bed like. 470 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:52,800 Is it? Yeah. 471 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,640 It's not good. No, you want to try? 472 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,240 Have you seen the Halo Top ice cream? 473 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,200 Yes. 300 calves for a whole tub. Yeah. 474 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,840 So you can have like 3 tubs then? 475 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,760 Wow. I normally stick to the, you 476 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,040 know, like the Ben and Jerry's or the Haagen Dazs. 477 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,800 Like, and I know, man, yeah, it's it's like when you sit in 478 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,200 bed, you're like, well, I'm when these four go sleep, put the 479 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,520 film on. Yeah. 480 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,440 So no bad habit to get into, but I'm trying to get out. 481 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,880 You'll be fine. Like, you just need another 482 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,280 goal. You need another competition. 483 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,520 Like they'll lock you in. Like, yeah, how much like does 484 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,680 nutrition how, how much importance can you put on a 485 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,440 nutrition when you're trying to be a strong man? 486 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,560 Oh, it's very important. Plays a vital role. 487 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,920 Yeah, definitely. I would say especially obviously 488 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,120 with how you feel as well. I mean, you know, if you're 489 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:41,000 feeling groggy and you're feeling shit, that could be 490 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,080 because of how your nutrition is going as well. 491 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,000 So yeah, it's very important and. 492 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,320 What? How many calories are you 493 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,560 looking to shovel in? When I was on my old plan before 494 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,520 I was only on about. I was quite surprising for a guy 495 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,800 my size. I think it was about 3 1/2 496 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,280 thousand calories a day that. Is. 497 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,760 Surprising. Yeah, that's a standard beyond 498 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,200 There's only four meals a day as well. 499 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:13,360 It'd be like something like steak with carrots and a jacket 500 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:17,400 potato. Second meal and be like some 501 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,920 scrambled eggs on sourdough toast. 502 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,600 And I know he had his his sort of famous drink as well, which 503 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,320 would be fat free Greek style yogurt dripped in with orange 504 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,960 juice. Mix it together. 505 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,600 It actually tastes really nice. It's really good. 506 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,200 But now it's probably sort of up in the 10,000 calories. 507 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,760 Oh really? I think that's where the extra 508 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,200 weight is coming from, you know? Yeah. 509 00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:45,400 I mean, like, does weight make a difference when when you go into 510 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,880 competition at any point, are you trying to cut fat or 511 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,480 anything like that? Or is it all about building 512 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,640 strength and muscle? Building strength and muscle, I 513 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,920 would say, as I say at the moment I'm not so really fall 514 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,560 when anything besides obviously my training plan. 515 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,720 So if my training plan is going good, I know I don't really sort 516 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,040 of really need to try it change anything other than so maybe 517 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,080 doing it the healthy way because you know, obviously we've got 518 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,120 things like cholesterol and things like, I mean, if they 519 00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:15,280 keep up with you, maybe a bit knock and then but mine sort of 520 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,080 all right at the moment it's not too bad. 521 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:24,000 I do need to get back into sort of a nutrition plan to sort of 522 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,680 go forward. What about protein? 523 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:27,960 What were you? Were you hitting a certain 524 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,920 target? Say, I'd say for say my size, 525 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,640 you're talking maybe 350 grams a day, three. 50 grams. 350 grams 526 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,600 a day. I'm struggling now because I 527 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,920 I've, I looked online, it's like, was it the recommend 2G or 528 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,960 sort of a gram per 2G per KK? I think is it 2G per say? 529 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,760 Yeah. So it came out in like 160 530 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,520 grams, started trying to be, I'm struggling with that like, and 531 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,000 you've got to double that. Guys my size, they're looking 532 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,680 around that Ranger. Yeah. 533 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,880 How many chicken breast is that? God knows that's a lot. 534 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,920 Are you good friends with the Butcher? 535 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,360 Yeah. Funny enough, time with me. 536 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,880 Yeah, yeah. I sort of get my sauces sort of 537 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,360 mainly from, say, protein shakes and like steaks, things like 538 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:12,840 that. Like, you know, protein bars, 539 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,720 like chicken. Not much of A final chicken, 540 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,480 really. I'd have a steak every every day 541 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,560 if I could like. Present. 542 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,360 Should be costly now. Yeah. 543 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,000 Seen in Tesco. They got security packaging on 544 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,560 the stuff on the steaks now. It's like bringing 9 quids and 545 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,040 £910.00 of steak is very expensive. 546 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,120 Yeah, so it's expensive in a strong man. 547 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:35,320 I bet it is like do you need sponsors like that then you to 548 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,520 help like. Yeah, definitely. 549 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,120 I mean, if I could get like a sponsor can sponsor me that I 550 00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:46,000 mean it would save a little bit. And, you know, sponsors are so 551 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,440 important as well because if you've got say enough 552 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,080 sponsorship on board means then you don't have to say sort of 553 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,120 work and you can fully concentrate then on on say 554 00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:59,040 strongman yourself and then progress further. 555 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,640 You know, that's the same like Eddie Holden, you know, he was 556 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,240 working as like a HGV mechanic and then yeah, like enough 557 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,560 sponsor on board. And we had like his old security 558 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,120 company. I got rid of all and quit his 559 00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:11,520 job. And he was like, he took that 560 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,880 risk. And you know, I'm quite a big 561 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,200 believer as well. You know, if you don't take 562 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,920 risks, you never know what the outcome is going to be, you know 563 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,880 what I mean? So. 564 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,200 Is this a goal of yours? Yeah, definitely. 565 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,440 When I sort of get up, you know where I can sort of make my job 566 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,920 full time like you know, so hopefully one day well, you got. 567 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,640 I guess, you know, silverware at the end of the day is the 568 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,120 biggest. It's the thing that's going to 569 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,360 attract these sponsors. If you can say I am world's 570 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:40,240 strongest man, you pick a few more of those up, you'll be 571 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,400 laughing, I bet. Like, yeah. 572 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,560 You know, I got a few, few plans in place. 573 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,280 There's also few comps I want to win. 574 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,240 But like, well, this, you know, I've got a big, big year this 575 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,200 year. I've got, you know, Gav Bilton. 576 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,840 No. He's in with, they say World's 577 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,840 Strongest Man. You know, Giants Live. 578 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,320 He is one of their competitors. He's he's the other swim wheels. 579 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,240 You got two wheels Strongest man competitions, you got ultimate 580 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:12,080 Strongman and then you got the Giants Live Welsh or say the 581 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,040 Welsh qualifier, because if you win that Welsh, you get the 582 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,560 opportunity then to go to Giants Live, Britain's Strongest Man. 583 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,160 So that's sort of the road there with ultimates them, which is 584 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,320 the one I won. You get to go to U KS. 585 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,160 Then if you if you place top three in the Welsh, you go to UK 586 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,400 strongest man, then ultimate strongman, which is obviously 587 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,400 what I've got. No, the beginning of August. 588 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,480 I've also got the Ultima Welsh again. 589 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:45,640 Then at the end of August I have got Gav Bilton's qualifier as 590 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,320 well which I believe would be from June at some point. 591 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,480 Hoping to qualify for his Welsh and then hopefully win it and 592 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,160 then get the Giants live then Britain. 593 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,680 Stronger man. Yeah, that'd be Brill. 594 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,560 That'd be brilliant. Yeah. 595 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,760 If I can do that this year, I'll be over the moon and. 596 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,080 That's the aim this year, yeah, that's. 597 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,840 The goal, but. Consistency. 598 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,880 You've been telling me. You've been telling me I'm going 599 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,960 to throw it back at you. Consistency. 600 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,160 Like that's the one, yeah. What's the biggest mistake you 601 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,240 see people making when they're trying to get stronger? 602 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,800 Gosh, I see it sometimes, like when I'm in the gym, you know, 603 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,280 when you've got like, say people are training, yeah, and you've 604 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,960 got them squatting and they're using like spongy shoes. 605 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,200 I'm, I'm like, no, like they're squatting down and the ankles 606 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,200 are twisting in and it's like, you're going to cause yourself 607 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,200 huge injury. You need to do a barefoot or 608 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,280 with all Olympic shoes on, you know? 609 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,600 And that's, that's one big mistake I've seen people doing, 610 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,360 especially when they're squatting or even log, even 611 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,480 pressing overhead. You know, the same thing sort of 612 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,040 happens there. Yeah. 613 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,400 You'll be very dangerous. Like, you know, so absolutely. 614 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,560 Because you get these big Nike, Nike, they're basically running 615 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,800 shoes. Yeah, they've got the big 616 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,040 padding on the heel, haven't they? 617 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,560 Like massive padding. Like you look, Nike now the 618 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,800 padding's only getting bigger and bigger. 619 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,480 Every shoe they bring out, it's ridiculous, like. 5 inches at 620 00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,400 the moment is that? Yeah. 621 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,520 No, it is. It is. 622 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,360 And so you see people in the gym using that like, yeah, I have. 623 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,760 To go up to them and tell them like, because I like this is if 624 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,320 like a sort of like final destination sort of stuff 625 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,160 happening, you can see something's going to go wrong. 626 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,080 Yeah, you've got to go over and tell them, Yeah. 627 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,080 And then they, they take our advice and board then, and then 628 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,080 they they switch. So and it's, you know, if you 629 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,360 can help them that like just a little bit, you know, it means a 630 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,840 lot. Now what do you think of this? 631 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,400 I I did a video the other day of me squatting and I was in my 632 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,720 slippers. Oh. 633 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,280 But they're flat. So someone caught me out. 634 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,240 They're like, why are you in slippers? 635 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,880 And I was like, what? They're just flat. 636 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,880 I'm in my house as well. Come on now, give me a break in 637 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,360 it. Well, I wouldn't say they're 638 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,600 that supportive, but. Right, OK, I'll get some. 639 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,880 I I. Either do a barefoot or or with 640 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,080 the Olympic shoes on. I mean, I, I didn't, I didn't 641 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,600 have a dressing gown on at least like, so you know, at least I 642 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,480 was in. A tea, A long job. 643 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,640 Pajamas Is your pajamas on I. Got my Yeah, I got my strongman 644 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,040 pajamas on. Yeah, I got Eddie Hall pajamas. 645 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,880 Although, but he just normally wears budgie smugglers. 646 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:01,920 So does he? Yeah. 647 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,200 Did you have them on? I did, but they were under the 648 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,960 under the trousers. You wouldn't have seen. 649 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,520 I got a funny picture up there. I'll show you after seeing my 650 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,760 budgie smugglers. Actually, I'll show you because 651 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,240 we're not just all record Breakers here. 652 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,600 Like I've got my own and I'll show you after what's what, 653 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,760 What's 1 movement? You see people getting wrong all 654 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,560 the time. If then someone that knows what 655 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,680 they're doing I would say it's deadlift. 656 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,600 Like you'd see someone deadlift them in their form is could be 657 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,880 all over the place. That's the trickiest 1 to get I 658 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,360 think. Yeah, yeah, it is very. 659 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,880 I same for myself. I mean I've got the best form. 660 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,560 I mean, obviously with my height as well as, so I had to sort of 661 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,040 get down in the bar for meaning we've got tight arm strings and 662 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,080 tight low back because I had to get down. 663 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,480 Obviously got to stretch and warm up, you know, accordingly 664 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,000 later sort of make sure your form is spawn. 665 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,840 But like you know, you see some people in the gym and they're 666 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,440 dead lifting. Are they sort of try to get up 667 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,680 or like when it gets onto their thighs, they sort of try to row 668 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,920 it, you know? I mean, yeah, it's rather than 669 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,240 just going straight up your legs and straight straight back. 670 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,760 Did I go there? Sort of do like a bent over row, 671 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,320 you know? Right. 672 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's not an upper body 673 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:10,920 movement. That's it. 674 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,400 Yeah, that's it. The lower back I'm saying 675 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,400 glutes. That's what I find because 676 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,200 because obviously there's so much weight on it, it's a high 677 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,240 risk movement. Yeah. 678 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,440 And when you're doing it wrong, yeah, Look, how many people do 679 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,200 you know that put their back out on a dead lift? 680 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,480 I've not. I've known a few. 681 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,080 Yeah, there's a few things have gone pop with a few people. 682 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,840 Yeah, because someone told me this one before. 683 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,800 It's not a squat. It's like you shouldn't because 684 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,320 you see some people that they're using their legs. 685 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,720 Is it more of a lower back exercise? 686 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,320 Yeah, I mean, yeah, legs are involved. 687 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,720 Yeah, I'd say sort of it's all, it's to do with it all. 688 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,120 But as I said, long as they're not, you know, they get to their 689 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,040 thighs and then they're going to attempt to roll it. 690 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,360 If if you, I mean they, you know, they're not keeping 691 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,760 everything straight locked in. You know at the start, you know 692 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,280 when you get on the by twist, twist the wrists, lock the lats 693 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,400 and then you go to pull straight up the legs. 694 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,760 This would get a halfway up and then do the bend and arm motion 695 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,880 like I'm like what are you doing? 696 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,480 This is like a compound movement. 697 00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,000 Now is it like do a little row in there as well? 698 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,360 Between like, yeah, that's one thing I've noticed a lot of 699 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,320 people that they do and if I do see it, I sort of try and help 700 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,760 them out as well because I don't like it when I see people. 701 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,400 So there's something wrong in the gym. 702 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,199 You got to go over and give them a hand leg, you know? 703 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,880 Yeah, no, I like that the gym's got it. 704 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,639 Should have a community feel, isn't? 705 00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:31,920 It yeah, that's it. I mean, we're all there for the 706 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,800 same reason, so, you know, and if you're there to help someone 707 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,840 out as well, you got to give them a hand when it's needed, 708 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,679 like, you know. What what gym you're currently 709 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,360 in? I'm all. 710 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,280 Over I'm all yeah, I go everywhere. 711 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,000 I mean we, I go there's a group of us. 712 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,320 So you got them at the top of their units, sort of what my 713 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,280 coaches started up. I go there every Sunday to sort 714 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,560 of do the events because that's where all like the strongman 715 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,960 equipment is like logs, stones, yolks, sandbags. 716 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,040 Like you know, you're like that big dumbbell that goes on the 717 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,920 shoulder press overhead. You got all them there. 718 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,240 So I go there every Sunday. I go to Snap Fitness. 719 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:16,360 This is internally Cowie Glen Abbey Gym are Stand by Me in the 720 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,080 Warehouse. The gym, then is in Comedy in 721 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,280 Swansea. Customer fortunate memberships. 722 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,040 Travel, Travel. I paid sort of possessions 723 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,400 because I don't know I'm going to be at the time because it's 724 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,280 so busy all the time, like with work and everything. 725 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,120 So I just sort of pay as I go really. 726 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,800 It's easier for me that way. So I. 727 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,920 Suppose you you need the specialist equipment then 728 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,280 really, don't you? Because it's not. 729 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,560 Depending what you're training, yeah, you're. 730 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,320 Not going to pure gym and yeah, like you need, you need the 731 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,120 stones, you need the yoke, It's all special stuff like that. 732 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,280 So like as if if say it's competition prep, we sort of go 733 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,000 down the unit, then this is twice a week. 734 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,280 So it's normally it's sort of tend to aim for like a Wednesday 735 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,560 and a Sunday and then do all the other movements then in the week 736 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,160 like squats, dead lifts like done by me. 737 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,160 There's not many gyms that have got the strong mind equipment as 738 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,280 well as that's why we go to that unit. 739 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,800 So I normally tend to stick then just dead lifting the squats 740 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,520 then where I live and then go down the unit then to do all the 741 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,360 other stuff. What's some of your PBS on the 742 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,400 major ones? What should your deadlift squat? 743 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,480 Do you do much bench press? No, there's no much bench press 744 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,080 in a strong man. No if, if, unless it's using 745 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,000 this as an accessory work, then it's not. 746 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,800 We don't really do it, although I did. 747 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,560 We were training one day and one of the boys is benching and they 748 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:41,680 had like something like 160 on the bench. 749 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,880 I was like, oh, I'll press that. No, he's like, no, you won't. 750 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,960 So I went over there, watches. No completely raw, no elbow 751 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,720 sleeves, no belt, nothing. As I went over there, I was 752 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:54,640 like, oh, just lifted it off, went down, buff straight up. 753 00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:01,200 So I've had like 160 in the bench row, but I've had a 330 754 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,600 deadlift, 330K deadlift. My Max squat at the moment is 755 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,040 285, but I've done 260 for three, so yeah. 756 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,400 It it, it's just it blows all my training, all the water. 757 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,960 Like there's me with my little lady weights. 758 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,760 Like it's like it's actually same higher reps higher. 759 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,160 I don't even know about that, to be honest. 760 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,960 Yeah, I'm mental. What's what's the future now? 761 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,480 So what's this year going to look like for you? 762 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,520 Well hopefully retain my title again this year, win the Welsh 763 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,600 again and get the Giants life. Britain's strongest man? 764 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,520 And what's, what's the, what's fervor in the future for you? 765 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,560 Where? Where are you aiming? 766 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,680 World I like to get I like to at least get the world's strongest 767 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,920 man, you know, if not when, at least get there. 768 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,080 So that's my goal anyway. He's world's strongest man, 769 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,080 that. 'D be Brill and if people want 770 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,280 to follow your journey, how? How can they follow you? 771 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,080 On Instagram or Facebook? Yeah, or TikTok. 772 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,360 What's are you on TikTok? You're doing all the dances. 773 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:06,560 Lives known again, yeah. What's What's your username? 774 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,440 It's Jamie BWN, under score strongman. 775 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They can follow the journey. 776 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,840 Jamie, good luck. Yeah. 777 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,800 Cheers, brother. Thank you. 778 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,520 Thank you. Pleasure. 779 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,080 Thank you. Congratulations, you made it to 780 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,400 the end of the episode. If you found value in it, please 781 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,400 leave us a review or drop us a comment below. 782 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,200 And to make sure you don't miss another one, make sure you 783 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,240 follow and subscribe. Thanks for watching. 784 00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:30,580 The.