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learned after thousands of hits 
is the DVR code from the farm to

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the town. 
Take it to the track and we'll 

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all throw down. 
From the Hollis to the highways,

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they keep it alive. 
What's up, everybody? 

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April 21st, episode 231. 
I was just telling George how it

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was running Pro Tree out there 
last time I was out there at Mad

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Dog, Farmington Dragway, 
probably one of the best little 

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tracks out here in North 
Carolina. 

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Not probably it is. 
I will say that right now, 

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Speaking of little tracks, we 
got Spring Fling bracket races 

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going on at Gulat Motorsports 
Park. 

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This hat right here, it's 
collector's item. 

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It's Toronto Dragway now, I 
think. 

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I think we got a couple locals 
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Tanner Miller, I saw him win, 
saw Brandon Lane win, and we got

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on this show. 
So I don't know who's still in, 

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who's out. 
Chad Duke. 

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I think Chad Duke's still in 
too, with his Duramax diesel 

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mirrors on his Chevrolet Camaro.
Only Chad Duke. 

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There's only one Chad Duke. 
Guys, I'm telling you right now,

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if you know Chad, he's one of 
those people that he'll tell you

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he's doing something and you'll 
say, no, you're not. 

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And he is, I promise you. 
But anyway, don't, don't be a 

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don't be a fast car on Chad 
Duke. 

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So he's going to see you. 
That's all I got to say. 

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Anyway, thank the people that 
brought this to you for 231 

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episodes guys Tuesday every 
single Tuesday, YouTube 

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Facebook, Spotify, apple podcast
all kinds of everywhere 

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everywhere you want to find 
anything that has to do with 

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drag racing media you can find 
going bracket racing there Just 

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search going bracket racing in 
that bar TSR racing products 

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accessories. 
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TSR syntex printing out there in
temple TX driven racing oil. 

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The shirt I got on right now, I 
got lots of shirts, man. 

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And I just realized the other 
day, pretty much every single 

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thing I wear is either going 
bracket racing adrenaline, 

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Chevelle shirts, which by the 
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at Farmington Dragway and every 
single Mad Dog event and 

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whatever event I show up to. 
So ask me, but driven racing oil

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is the other thing that I wear 
and you can get your oil for 

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your race car. 
GP1, best stuff you can possibly

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get, especially if you burn 
methanol. 

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You can get transmission fluid, 
new ATR, they got all that 

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stuff. 
They got rear end oil. 

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All this stuff's in the Chevelle
ride now guys, I'm telling you 

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right now I'm doing some torture
testing on that. 

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All I need is some of that oil 
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times it's good, at times it's 
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not. 
I can assure you of that. 

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And you want to use GBR 10, get 
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every single time you order from
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proformparts.com shop tools, 
carburetors, alternators, 

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starters, accessories, all kinds
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They got brand new stuff every 
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Crew Chief Pro Software will get
you figured out for the spring 

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playing called on right now and 
overnight you a copy of Crew 

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Chief Pro Software. 
Get yourself advantage the 

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Spring Fling bracket races at 
Galat Motorsports Park and if 

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you need any parts, some of 
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times out there. 
You're going to need some rocker

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arms, might need push rod or 
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Who knows what you're going to 
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Gearhead solutions. 
He might be out there right now.

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I didn't text him. 
I should have asked, but he's 

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got access, access, access 
George. 

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It's over 1000 vendors. 
Yeah, I, I'm having a hard time 

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talking today, man. 
I've been on the phone all day 

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long for work and to be honest 
with you, I'm just glad to be on

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going Bracket Racing podcast 
right now with George. 

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So what you got going on? 
Why don't you talk for a while? 

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Because obviously I'm not very 
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Yeah, I don't got much going on,
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I forgot the flame was on. 
I just put it on the back TV and

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moved out of the way. 
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couple laps, if you look past 
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right there in that area, Yep, 
you'd be able to catch a couple 

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rounds of drag racing. 
Shout out to the fling boys. 

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Shout out, you know, for putting
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warning all those guys or 
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you always do a heck of a job 
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it's always something to watch. 
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competing. 
But Casey, man, I'm not doing 

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much, you know, just hanging 
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It's pretty rainy out here in 
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I probably. 
Will be. 

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Yeah, man, it's, I mean, my boy 
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raining out every game. 
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yesterday, which helps, and he 
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so. 
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cold, which two things that 
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cold air. 
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Yeah, it's weird right now, man,
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Hey, I just realized I forgot 
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there in Havana, IL They help us
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And they got quick sixteens up 
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They got they got tens, 20s, all
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All I can say is Sean's doing a 
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improving the facility. 
Greg's doing a great job running

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that place, man. 
What can you say about Mid State

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Dragway? 
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you're a guy that runs a 
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better be going up to Havana for
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you're in the area so. 
What races is Casey talking 

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about guys, if you didn't know 
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behind him change, here's a look
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The mid state twin 10s kicking 
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2026. 
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Six of them, to be honest, 6 big
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for 10 off the top and then on 
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go for 10, we're going to go for
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many as you can and get into the
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as you can because there is a 
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the year that's in shootouts 
now. 32 car gamblers races on 

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Friday nights the day before 
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Got your junior directions out 
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behind the wheel already 175,000
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OK. 
This is what I would wish on 

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every single bracket racer in 
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especially on the local level. 
This is a perfect entry local to

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mid market drag race for anybody
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So getting where you fit in, if 
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mid state drag way and 
definitely thanks for all you 

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guys do at the same time right 
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Southern Illinois area, KC, 
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you guys are listening into the 
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Indy brought in a race, Havana's
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Louis got the OG million well 
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20 on Saturday and Sunday. 
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sponsors sitting behind nose 
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We're wasting fuel promotions to
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race out in that area. 
Let's pay it back guys. 

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Let's get out there. 
Let's get into the stands. 

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Let's feel the seats. 
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go drag racing, sell that thing 
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I know there's going to be 
another one coming at the end of

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July, which you'll see that fire
right here on GBR coming soon as

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going bracket racing. 
We'll be providing the live 

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stream to that event as well. 
So, Casey, it's going to be a 

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heck of a show today, man. 
And and I'm not going to keep 

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rambling and wasting our time on
this one because we got a lot to

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unpack on this week's episode of
Questions from the pits. 

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We got a dandy of a question 
this time, Casey, I'm a kick it 

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to you, man. 
Let everybody know what that 

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question is for this week. 
I'm. 

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Going to let you know, but first
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is I got a shout out. 
So you know, Phil, you don't. 

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You don't. 
Phil Krause, our mutual friend, 

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second generation racer in the 
family, Oliver Kraus out there 

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at Gateway International 
Raceway. 

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I know it's worldwide 
technologies guys, I'm just 

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telling you right now, it's 
Gateway International Raceway. 

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That's where we grew up, me and 
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Phil, who is the dad of Oliver 
Kraus getting his year director 

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license this week. 
Man, So happy to see that. 

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Happy to see that generation 
Phil talking about. 

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He's he realizes how cool it is 
to see your kid do cool things 

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now, man. 
So got another generation of us.

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Just wanted to give him a shout 
out given given another 

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generation, well, basically 
ruining another generation, I 

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guess you could say, sorry, 
buddy, You're never going to 

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have any money ever again in 
your life and it's your dad's 

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fault. 
You can just blame him. 

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But that being said, we'll get 
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Jamie Stringer junior questions 
from the pits. 

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Man, anytime you want to have, 
you know, we always say this, 

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have your voice be heard on 
going Brack Racing podcast. 

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We've always said that ever 
since the very first episode. 

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Always message us, hit us up on 
Facebook, send us a message at 

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going brackracinggmail.com. 
Jamie Stringer junior sent to us

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a message and it was a long one,
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I've broken it down into several
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think we can literally make an 
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all he has Great points here, 
but I'm just going to read 

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sections and me and George are 
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and give us give you our 
thoughts on on what he says here

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man. 
So let's start it out. 

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Good topic idea to throw at you 
guys putting a spin on all this 

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talk of expenses lately, diving 
into the idea of dragsters being

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100 to $150,000 nowadays, which 
is true. 

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So yeah, I got now. 
Now Phil's over here texting me 

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right now. 
Anyway. 

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Yeah man, Jamie's example here. 
Say you're a big money bracket 

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racer running dragsters. 
I'd say the average ET is around

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4:40 to 470 in that scene. 
I'd say that's correct. 

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Four 20s to 30s on the rare 
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basically slow now. 
True. 

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Very weird money wise the gap is
insane, especially in the engine

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department. 
You could probably spend 10 to 

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$20,000 on a decent older 
reliable 565 run four 80s, four 

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70s versus 40 to $50,000 on an 
all aluminum 648. 

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It's going to require way more 
maintenance as well. 

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In Drexler specifically, people 
have been paying for that extra 

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jump because Jamie considers it 
to be a huge advantage. 

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So after that first paragraph, 
let's talk about the fact. 

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Is the fast car a huge 
advantage? 

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What are your thoughts? 
Yeah, I'm going, I'm going to 

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err on the side of yes on this 
one. 

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I'm I'm going to say yes. 
It is the word huge kind of miss

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me a little bit. 
I don't like the huge word, but 

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if, if I had to give a 
percentage, I like 70% to the 

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fast car 70. 
There's just a lot of variables 

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that turns a lot of cards that 
the faster car gains by having 

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the faster dialing. 
I've always been a a really, 

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really big proponent of racing 
behind myself. 

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Me. 
This is how I I don't perceive 

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that to be the way I race the 
best, but I feel like I'm 

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comfortable when I'm aggressing 
the other car in the other lane.

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Lot of people are going to see 
the same. 

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You can see things better, you 
can see things that they cannot 

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see being behind them as well. 
So I am of the mind that the 

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faster car is at an advantage 
and this doesn't have anything 

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to do with true start or 
anything of that nature for me. 

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Just moreover, a little bit more
time to to be behind and see 

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what's happening unfold in front
of you as opposed to having to 

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turn around and race 90° and 
it's that in the third. 

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Yeah, we're getting a lot of, 
we're already getting a lot of 

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stuff fired up in the chat over 
here. 

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Quiz says no and that's it. 
That's all he says guys. 

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No, he just came in with 
something else all Sunday. 

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Says to a general audience, yes.
Easier to chase than being 

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chased. 
Just depends on your experience 

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of racing. 
I agree with that 100% as I'm 

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going to bring up here in a 
second. 

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Quiz chimes back in. 
I've been chased 92%. 

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That's a very specific number 
quiz. 

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I don't know if your math skills
are at 92%, but let's just say 

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they are all of my racing career
and I make more mistakes chasing

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because I'm more used to being 
chased. 

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And I do agree with that because
what I was literally getting to 

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say are getting ready to say 
after awesome days comment here 

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was most of my experience has 
been chasing whenever I was in 

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junior dragsters like which has 
been a long time ago now. 

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Oh, we got Dylan Champion, the 
celebrity announcer in here now 

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too. 
Whenever I was in junior 

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dragsters, it was when they 
first came out. 

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So I started out I was going 
like 1080, something like that. 

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I wasn't the fastest car for 
sure, but I wasn't the slowest 

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car because of the time frame. 
I was racing this in the 90s and

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then as soon as we could get an 
890 motor, then we got 890 motor

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and that was as fast as you 
could go. 

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So obviously if I wasn't being 
chased, I was the same as 

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someone else because you could 
only dial 890 and it was 790. 

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Same thing immediately after I 
turned. 

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As soon as I turned 16, I was in
a five O 490 dragster, which 

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back in the early 2000s was 
fast, especially where we grew 

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up. 
Then I ended up in a 470 

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dragster. 
That was where I did all my 

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winning stuff and I agree with 
both Austin and Quest here 

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because they both agree on this 
subject, which is what are you 

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used to? 
Are you used to being chased? 

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Are you a guy that always was 
being chased? 

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Jason Phillips, our mutual 
friend in junior dragster's, he 

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had like a 1890 junior dragster 
dude like a pole star junior 

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dragster. 
I don't know if he ever got a 

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faster one than that or not. 
The fact of the matter was he 

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was always being chased is 
basically driving a lawnmower 

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down the track. 
Then he got in his mom's 

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Mustang. 
What you know is probably the 

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winningest streetcar of all 
time, other than maybe that 

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yellow Cavalier. 
It's it's possibly the 

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winningest streetcar of all time
and was always being chased. 

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I mean, then you have people 
like Ricky Thomas Junior in the 

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in big red in that big Monte 
Carlo runs ten 90s running. 

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He was running St. class run 12 
flat every single time. 

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One of the winningest cars of 
all time. 

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Chasing, not chasing, being the 
slow car, being the fast car 

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wins constantly. 
Just simply that dude knows how 

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to race. 
It's ridiculous how well he 

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knows how to race. 
That's all he's ever done. 

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I'm sure that I'm sure he's made
a lot of house payments racing, 

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but the fact of the matter is I 
don't know if simply being fast 

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it will override experience. 
Yeah. 

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What are your thoughts? 
No, I agree with that 100%. 

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I'm going to grab some some 
comments out of the chat on the 

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Facebook side here. 
We got a few guys chimed in. 

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I see Brandon Justice come in 
and say 450 to 460 Dragster has 

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the advantage most of the time. 
It's fast enough to have a 

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second to watch the race develop
in front of you. 

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Also not too fast where the 
track beats you if it gets away.

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Hands down a excellent comment 
because those variables are 

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massive whereas just taking 
Brandon's thought process. 

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A 420 or a 430 car, it'd get 
cold. 

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For instance, Ice Stream for 
Pennington and the Pennington 

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productions. 
I should say in October, it gets

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a little cold out there. 
OK, Everybody needs to know that

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If you're coming to a race in 
October in Texas, going to get 

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chilly at night, if you're down 
420 and you don't get down the 

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track, well, that's just your 
fault. 

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You know what I mean? 
Maybe your car's just right on 

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the edge of being optimal, but 
those 450 cars, those 460 cars, 

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they're going to go down the 
track, all right? 

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I feel like there should be AET 
break or a thought process that 

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says, hey, it's going to be 50 
or lower at night. 

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I'd better pull some horsepower 
back out of this dog and get it 

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at least out of the 60 foot 
zone, right? 

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So. 
Great comment out of Brandon 

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Justice there. 
I'm with you on that. 

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Jason Overstreet, Mr. Loose 
changed himself. 

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Of course, he's team door car, 
but I know he's got experience 

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in dragsters and he goes on to 
say I believe he said I prefer 

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being the slower 480 or slower 
in the other lane. 

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I feel I can judge the stripe 
470 or quicker. 

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I hold one or two. 
So everybody's got us some type 

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of a game plan, but it's a very 
good, very good picture we just 

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got from loose change O Jason 
Overstreet, because we know he's

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got a door car and that's his 
baby and that he's used to being

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chased and you can probably be 
aggressive as well. 

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But he gives us the thought 
process from door car to 

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dragster and both of it 
seemingly says, I don't mind 

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being the car behind. 
This is kind of turning into 

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preference. 
Casey, what do you think? 

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Oh, yeah, absolutely. 
I mean, and just like Austin Day

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says here also with true start, 
the faster car loses the 

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advantage versus the old way 
where the faster car sees the 

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red light before leaving. 
Yeah, 100%. 

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And the red light wouldn't 
matter because the Reds red. 

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I mean, there was a scenario 
back in the day. 

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This has been probably 20 years 
ago now. 

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In fact, I don't know. 
I don't know if I've run my dad 

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since then. 
I ran him in the semis at ET 

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Raceway one day and I was super 
red, but I was so much lighter 

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than him. 
Our cars were the same engines I

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believe. 
But you know, this is 16 year 

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old Casey or whatever. 
They weighed like 145 lbs or 

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whatever. 
Yeah, dad weighed normal guy 

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size and so I was like 2 
hundreds faster than him and I 

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was like 20 red but he was like 
5 red and I almost red lighted 

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before him but it didn't matter.
It doesn't, you know, first 

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isn't first. 
First is worst. 

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I guess depending on which say 
way that you want to think about

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it. 
First is worst. 

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Back then whoever left starting 
line first lost, whether they're

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one red or 21 red. 
Quest being fast will cost you 

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at a marginal track later in the
rounds as well. 

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Bass knuckler. 
For me, it's not about being 

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chased or chasing, it's about 
leaving the line first. 

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I prefer to leave first. 
Possibly a foot breaker. 

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Best tell us if you're a foot 
breaker or if you're a top 

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boulder over there because 
that'll be an interesting thing 

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to see. 
It's funny you guys are talking 

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about that though, because 
that's the second portion, I 

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believe, of Jamie's example 
here. 

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No, that's the third. 
That's the third portion. 

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We'll get into that. 
Let's just talk about third 

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portion here because it doesn't 
matter. 

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It's irrelevant which direction 
we go here, which order. 

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Yeah, flashback 20 years ago, I 
feel like the idea of the door 

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car dragster separation took off
because a lot of people felt 

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like dragsters had an advantage.
Fast forward and now door cars 

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can be just as deadly again due 
to shock technology, converter 

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technology, things like that. 
I agree with that 100% and I 

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think that it'd be I think that 
it'd be really interesting to 

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see let me see here a missed 
spot. 

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I think it'd be a really 
interesting concept to put 

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together some grassroots style 
races specifically no 

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separation. 
And here's the magic part. 

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No crosstalk and expose all the 
number holders finish line 

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magicians that are used to the 
dragster scenario I used earlier

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because now that badass 440 cars
having to judge a 650 door car 

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second round. 
I really think it'd be a cool 

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concept and the only possible 
negative risk you'd take putting

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it would be scaring away 
dragsters. 

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Maybe even throw in no buybacks,
but then have a first round 

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losers race that could run in 
between the big race rounds 

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after third or fourth round say.
So no crosstalk, no buybacks. 

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Let's just talk about the no 
crosstalk idea because that's 

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something that we have brought 
up on this show several times 

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and it's something that I 
specifically caught the tail end

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of whenever I got into big cars.
Even in, I mean in junior 

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Dragsters we didn't have 
crosstalk either, which I think 

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it's kind of irrelevant for 
bottom bulb type stuff because I

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guess one bulb just hangs on 
longer. 

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But the fact of the matter is, 
is that crosstalk allows it 

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where you're always hitting your
side of the tree. 

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And that young guys out there, 
we might as well say this 

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because the young guys out 
there, you, you might not have 

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ever. 
Yeah, You don't know any 

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different because I'm almost 40 
years old and I barely caught 

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the tail end of it. 
And that was just at the smaller

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tracks because Gateway started 
Crosstalk because it's National 

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Event Facility. 
They started as soon as it came 

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out. 
But there was a time where I-57 

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drag strip place, place that you
and I grew up at you had to add 

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in, on average, you would have 
to take 10 out to crossover. 

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That was always the rule of 
thumb, but whatever the lights 

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came on, what if the lights are 
shining on that side harder? 

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You might have to take even more
out and you had to know that 

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type of stuff. 
And if you go back to the other 

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lane, if you get pushed over to 
left lane, which back then it 

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was fast car always got lane 
choice, which is a real weird 

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adjustment for me out here. 
By the way, whenever I first 

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started coming out here, I bet 
you I raced for a year and I was

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giving people lanes and I'm 
like, oh man, I could have had, 

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I could have had lane choice for
a year. 

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But anyway, man, there, there 
was a time that you had to look 

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over at the other bulb whenever 
it came on. 

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And that's whenever you let go 
and you had to add in your box 

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or subtract in your box. 
And if you're in the right lane 

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versus the left lane, maybe the 
lights would shine on that side 

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harder than they would on this 
side because that's the side the

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tower's on. 
And they have lights on the 

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tower at every single track for 
the most part. 

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And that's where the starting 
line lighting comes from. 

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And you had to compensate for 
that. 

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I really believe if they turn 
crosstalk off, I think there's a

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lot of people and I'm not 
talking just young guys, I'm 

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talking a lot of people in 
general that you see winning a 

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lot. 
I don't think those guys would 

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be winning for about a year if 
if you did that so. 

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I, I beg to differ and the only 
reason why is because the 

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components that allow us to hit 
the tree these days, it isn't a,

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you got to know what to take out
or what to add in or any of 

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that. 
Any it's a put the dialing in 

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and go to work. 
Give us enough time looking in 

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the other lane as opposed to the
light flashing kind of back in 

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the day where I didn't get to 
Drag Race like that. 

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My dad did, my uncle did. 
I got to watch it all that time.

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Give it a little bit of a few 
practice rounds and I feel like 

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it's back, it's back to where we
are now. 

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So it doesn't matter to me if 
the lights on on my side or if 

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it's on the other side, if I can
see that light clearly, which 

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generally the lights are somehow
illuminated to show you both. 

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All I'm doing is cutting my head
around a little bit different. 

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I still think there's going to 
be a lot of people to knock that

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tree down. 
So the crosstalk idea, I don't 

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feel like that contributes to 
what the faster the reason why 

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the faster director is at and 
advantage. 

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I don't because again, our 
components now you're going to 

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have to take out the lay boxes 
to be at the Biondo box that the

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pro cube. 
Heck, even the old dead and 

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bear, I think, used to be able 
to put the little dial in there 

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and and dial and it would hold 
you at the start line anyway. 

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So I'm a little bit indifferent 
when it comes to the crossover 

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section of it all, and I don't 
think it would uncover very much

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at all. 
Leave your comments because I 

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this is opinion based. 
I think that it would. 

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And again, it's because of the 
angle and more so than the 

445
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:18,280
angle, I think that in your 
local scenario, I don't think it

446
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,200
would matter that much. 
Let's just take for example, the

447
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,680
spring flings going on right 
now. 

448
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,520
Literally as we speak, they got 
shootout going on right now. 

449
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:30,720
If you're from, well, it's, it's
in my neck of the woods, 

450
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,240
literally 20 minutes from my 
house. 

451
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,520
You're from Texas. 
You come out here and let's say 

452
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,720
we don't have crosstalk. 
So you got to leave off. 

453
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,160
Let's say you're dialed 6 flat. 
I'm dialed 650. 

454
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,680
So you're leaving off my bulb. 
You got a time run. 

455
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,200
You're probably leaving off your
side. 

456
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,400
Figure out where you're at now 
we're running first round. 

457
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,120
You have one shot. 
You're you're going to hit it 

458
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,880
slower. 
It's the angle changes. 

459
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,040
The angle is not consistent 
anywhere. 

460
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,040
It's it's just whatever angle 
it's at pointed at the driver. 

461
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,080
Maybe it's straight, Maybe 
that's the answer if they point 

462
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,400
straight all the time. 
And here's the other. 

463
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,000
Answer You can't turn the light 
to the the car in. 

464
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,360
The other lane they used to. 
Be straight. 

465
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,000
Has to be. 
Straight used to. 

466
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,720
And here's the other thing 
though, they used to be 

467
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,640
incandescent. 
Maybe it doesn't matter with 

468
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,320
LEDs. 
Right now, in, in, in when 

469
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,760
you're saying they used to turn 
it, I think it may have been 

470
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,920
skewed a little bit the other 
way, but you could still see it 

471
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,440
in the other lane in your, I 
would be on the outside of the 

472
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,640
car, standing on the far side of
the car towards the guardrail 

473
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,360
instead of in the middle of the 
track. 

474
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,280
And I could, I used to stand 
there like every other little 

475
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,000
kid in the world and just let 
go, you know what I mean? 

476
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,800
And I remember getting a really 
good view of that light every 

477
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,960
single time so. 
But we're talking about 

478
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,040
thousands. 
Again. 

479
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,120
Again about. 
Thousands. 

480
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,560
Again. 
Again. 

481
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,280
You're not going to red light on
crossing over, I can assure you 

482
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,680
of that. 
The delay box changes the game 

483
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:09,000
period, it changes it. 
So our equipment nowadays and I 

484
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,360
think that the disparity that 
used to be is no more in today's

485
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,320
age. 
That's what I think. 

486
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,280
That's what I think so. 
It's interesting, interesting. 

487
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,120
That's the whole point of this. 
Let's go back up. 

488
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,800
Let me see where I was at. 
So we were talking about. 

489
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,880
So this is his example of the 
fast car having the huge 

490
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,080
advantage. 
Sam dialed 455. 

491
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,040
The guy next to me is dialed 65.
I know within the 1st 100 feet 

492
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,560
how I'm looking as far as tracks
position goes and even have a 

493
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:47,240
better idea of who hit the tree 
better than the slower guy. 

494
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,400
Even if I know he hit the tree 
better, I've got more time to 

495
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,920
plan for the finish line 
strategy. 

496
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,760
I could see that being the case.
I could also have decided to 

497
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,280
hold five that particular round 
endowed for 60, and then I get 

498
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,440
an even better idea in the 1st 
100 feet, and it's easier for 

499
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,040
those guys to play with that 
many numbers in their ETS that 

500
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,120
close. 
I think that advantage is what's

501
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,240
driving these engine costs up 
ultimately, and turning the 

502
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,720
dragster class specifically into
a spending competition when 

503
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,520
going back to its roots. 
Bracket racing gives the poor 

504
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,440
man a chance. 
That was what it was originally 

505
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,400
invented for, specifically 
calling out Gage Birch in the 

506
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,960
Ranger when in the first SFG 
Mega race, the $525,000 race, 

507
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,800
which we all know, which that's 
how everybody learned about. 

508
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,120
Hey, Gage Burch is this guy 
outside of Florida, people 

509
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,160
figured out who he was and Donny
Hagar, obviously people figured 

510
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,480
out who he was in the same 
scenario. 

511
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:58,040
So I guess the whole purpose of 
that portion of it is just to 

512
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,120
expand on the fact of why was 
bracket racing created. 

513
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,160
It was specifically created 
because class racing was too 

514
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,240
expensive. 
So this is more of a talk along 

515
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,760
the lines of how much money are 
people willing to spend to go 

516
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,000
bracket racing nowadays? 
Because I have learned in my 

517
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,880
personal experience, outside of 
the initial expense of a class 

518
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,240
car, which we all know, I mean, 
you can bracket race anything. 

519
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,760
I mean, you bracket raced your 
Cavalier for years streetcar 

520
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,120
that you drove to work every 
single day that we drove all 

521
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:37,880
over the place and the and the 
point is bracket racing was 

522
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:43,440
invented to be able to make that
Cavalier competitive with my 

523
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,280
Chevelle top sportsman car. 
And bracket racing does it does 

524
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,240
if you know your car. 
However, it's gotten to the 

525
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:59,160
point where I think a lot of 
people have, they chase things 

526
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,680
that they don't. 
I don't know. 

527
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,280
I don't know what the correct 
phrasing for it would be. 

528
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,840
They're chasing things that they
don't necessarily want to chase.

529
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,600
They think they have to chase 
because that's what's in the 

530
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,680
news all the time type thing. 
But the fact of the matter is 

531
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,400
there still is your local 
bracket racing facility where 

532
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,120
you don't have to do to keep up 
with the Joneses. 

533
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,360
And also, what's that guy's 
name? 

534
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,080
Justin Daniels Showtime. 
That's a old race car. 

535
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Me and you saw that car when we 
were kids. 

536
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,080
That car had been around for 20 
years. 

537
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,280
And he wins just as much now as 
he did back. 

538
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,280
Then he did back there. 
That's right. 

539
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,320
That's right, that's right. 
So I don't think that you 

540
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,600
necessarily need the latest and 
greatest stuff because I 

541
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:53,000
personally believe that a lot of
these new dragster things, 

542
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,480
they're nice. 
I mean, let's get it. 

543
00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:02,960
Let's let's not, you know, we 
would all like to have a, I 

544
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,320
don't know what's a fancy car, 
Rolls Royce or something, right?

545
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,199
They're nice, right? 
No, no. 

546
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,320
The fact, hey, if someone's 
giving you a Rolls Royce, you're

547
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,320
taking it. 
Don't lie. 

548
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,760
The keyword. 
Was they gave it to me. 

549
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,800
So yeah, that's the right story.
But the fact. 

550
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,360
Of the matter, we can agree that
a Rolls Royce is nicer than 

551
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,960
Cadillac, right? 
Yeah, absolutely. 

552
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,159
Yeah, but the fact of the matter
is, is a lot of stuff on the 

553
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:29,719
Rolls Royce is a gimmick. 
It's just something to make it 

554
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,480
look nice. 
You don't need stars on your 

555
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,120
ceiling. 
You're not sleeping in that car.

556
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:35,600
If you can afford a Rolls Royce,
you got a house. 

557
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,080
I assure you, you got a house. 
And if you don't, I'll know what

558
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,639
you're doing. 
But anyway, back to the matter 

559
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:45,560
is a lot of these things that 
are coming out on dragsters 

560
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,760
probably for the last 10 years, 
they're kind of gimmicks. 

561
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,320
You know, they're just like, 
this is different than that. 

562
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,880
It's cool to have adjustable 
pedals. 

563
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,880
It's cool to have adjustable 
steering wheel. 

564
00:34:56,639 --> 00:35:01,440
But I can also tell you that 99%
of people will get in a dragster

565
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,800
and fit. 
You don't need that stuff. 

566
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:05,920
I mean, I've done it a million 
times. 

567
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,360
I, I would venture to say that 
most people who own a dragster 

568
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,360
right now is dreaming someone 
else's dragster and probably 

569
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,040
been mildly successful in it. 
But the fact of the matter is, 

570
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,800
you know, you got to have people
have a reason why they need a 

571
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,280
new dragster because they're all
the same. 

572
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,360
And that's why dragsters are 
$150,000 because you got 

573
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,920
adjustable foot pedals and 
something that you could take 3 

574
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,440
bolts out of and change where 
it's at. 

575
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,200
Yeah, I think that's one of the 
main reasons. 

576
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,760
And you know, like you said, 
keeping up with the Joneses, you

577
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,000
could throw business into it if 
you want to, where you just put 

578
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,000
as many components on a car as 
you can and spend as much money 

579
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,960
as you can in order to to get 
rid of it as much money as you 

580
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,680
can. 
That's all I can really see 

581
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:55,200
because in today's age as a 
dragster or a dragster, to me, a

582
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:00,520
five O 5 to a 525 dialed 
dragster is the deadliest weapon

583
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,760
on the planet to me. 
Because the 420 dragster racing 

584
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,600
against a car that's dropped, 
that's dialed a whole second 

585
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:15,440
slower now has to chase that car
at what 25 mile an hour faster? 

586
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:22,520
That is a that is a big barrier 
to keep the human element out of

587
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,440
giving back the stripe or 
killing too much ET right. 

588
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,320
That 525 to five O 5 gesture is 
going to run the number without 

589
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,960
spinning the tires seemingly 
every RIP. 

590
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:40,040
So have are we ever in today's 
age, right now, in today's era, 

591
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,640
are we going to see a $100,000 
five second gesture? 

592
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,360
No, it's almost impossible to do
that unless you. 

593
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,680
I don't even know what you would
do to do that. 

594
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,560
You'd have to Chrome plate the 
entire thing like you'd have to.

595
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,800
I don't even know what you'd do.
Therefore, it goes back to the 

596
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,320
the thought process of why drag 
racing was created and it is to 

597
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:08,320
make that 5 second car that's 
worth 20,000, that 2019 99 

598
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,400
hardtail car that runs five O 5 
every single RIP every time down

599
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,960
the track and all he's got to do
is hit the tree. 

600
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,640
Oh, that car is just as 
competitive as that $150,000 

601
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,440
dragster. 
So that's why bracket racing was

602
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,640
created and that's why there's a
disparity that we're about to 

603
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,160
get into a little bit deeper, 
especially as we get into this 

604
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,000
whole notion of door car or 
dragster. 

605
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,760
Hang in there though, because 
it's that time we got to let our

606
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,760
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628
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Couldn't find my button to get 
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629
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:17,990
a second case. 
So we got a little bit of gap 

630
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:20,230
there. 
But hey guys, thanks. 

631
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:21,750
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632
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:23,470
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640
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641
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642
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648
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649
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650
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,320
So but let's get back to it. 
We are currently on what I would

651
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from the pits as we continue 
with today's question. 

657
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,200
All about to my consideration, 
the advantages and disadvantages

658
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,880
of having whatever type of car 
that you chose. 

659
00:40:55,120 --> 00:41:01,120
Casey, let's keep it moving. 
Well, we had a lot of stuff in 

660
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,360
the chat over here of people 
saying a lot of monkey see 

661
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,680
monkey doing the sport. 
I agree with that. 

662
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,040
I, you know, keeping up with the
neighbors, stuff like that. 

663
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,440
I think there's a lot of people 
that spend money on things they 

664
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,480
otherwise don't, they don't need
because ultimately, at the end 

665
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,600
of the day, let's just use the 
example I use all the time. 

666
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,560
Corioletti's going to win in 
anything, guys. 

667
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,080
I mean, he can. 
He can win in my cars. 

668
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,160
He went in George's cars. 
He went in his own cars. 

669
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,560
Doesn't matter. 
He's a great racer. 

670
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,680
He's just going to win. 
I mean, same thing with Gage 

671
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,280
Burt, same thing with Matt 
Daddis. 

672
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,800
I mean, are their cars probably 
better suited? 

673
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,480
Are they used to their cars 
more? 

674
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,280
Yes, I'm sure they are. 
But I think that if they got in 

675
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,120
anyone else's, I mean, look at I
guarantee you Donovan Williams, 

676
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,400
it's in his blood to drive 
anything and win anything. 

677
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,720
His his dad and his uncle did 
that for years and years and 

678
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:59,680
years. 
Jeff Sarah, you mean to tell me 

679
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,120
he can't win and anything he 
gets in, Of course he can. 

680
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,120
He wins in cars that shouldn't 
be winning. 

681
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,000
He wins millions of dollars in 
cars that shouldn't be winning. 

682
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,160
And it seems like, but the fact 
of the matter is, is that I 

683
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,800
think that you can make pretty 
much any back half car. 

684
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,880
If you have $25,000, that might 
not be the prettiest car on the 

685
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,520
planet, but as long as the 
chassis straight, you have about

686
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,520
25 grand, I think you can make 
it about as good as it can 

687
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,480
possibly be. 650 car. 
I don't think that you need 

688
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,320
anything more than you need a 
converter for your combination. 

689
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,240
You need obviously a reliable 
motor with a good carburetor on 

690
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,720
it. 
You need the best shots you can 

691
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:44,280
get and new tires and that's 
that car is going to go dead on 

692
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,720
every single time. 
Yeah. 

693
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:49,800
But let's get off into it 
though, because I believe in the

694
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,320
bracket racing community as a 
whole, and this is of course 

695
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:59,400
opinion. 
There is a, a, a, a, a running 

696
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,400
debate that has been going on 
especially since the door car 

697
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,480
versus door car, dragster versus
dragster era that we ushered 

698
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,560
into as big money bracket racing
got larger and larger and larger

699
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,880
is the best way that I could put
it. 

700
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,840
Everybody chose which way to go.
You either chose a door car, you

701
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,600
chose a dragster, you chose a 
four 90s dragster, or you chose 

702
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,960
the four 30s dragster, you chose
a 60 car, or you chose, you 

703
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,520
know, a 50 car, door car, 650, 
whatever you want to call it. 

704
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:37,880
Which car has the advantage 
materially, optically on the 

705
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,360
track? 
I don't care what side Casey has

706
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,160
the advantage. 
Is it a door car or is it a 

707
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,560
dragster? 
Tell me your thoughts guys, 

708
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,760
leave them in the chat. 
I mean in my experience and I've

709
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,880
about had everything there could
possibly be. 

710
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,720
Now I haven't had a what I 
consider a top dragster would be

711
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,880
like a four O car. 
You know, I know a lot of people

712
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,600
are saying top dragsters are 
like 0450 top dragster. 

713
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,200
It's not top dragster anymore, 
guys. 

714
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,760
Hard hate to tell you that. 
It's just not that's a bracket 

715
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,960
car. 
But the fact of the matter is, 

716
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,800
is that I've pretty much driven 
anything there is to drive now. 

717
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,280
And I kind of think it's 
whatever you invest the most 

718
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,880
time into figuring out how to 
make it good. 

719
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,920
My buddy Adam Bouya, it's hard 
to argue that his Mustang is not

720
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,520
one of the best cars out there 
right now. 

721
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,920
Maddie's driving it this 
weekend. 

722
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,440
It's hard to argue that Dylan 
champions Camaro, which is 

723
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,040
really nothing special, is one 
of the best cars in the entire 

724
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,760
country and has been for the 
last three years. 

725
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,560
And everybody knows that. 
Everybody in North Carolina 

726
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,920
knows that for sure, dude. 
It's hard to argue that 

727
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,720
honestly, if I could have put 
439 on my car at the last Mad 

728
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:55,840
Dog race, that car went 439 with
a four at, you know, at 

729
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,920
Farmington, which is it's, it's 
not a national event facility. 

730
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,840
It's a older racetrack. 
It's a nice racetrack, but it's,

731
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,000
I'm just saying it's not Gateway
or something. 

732
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,760
It's not super track, it's not 
Bristol. 

733
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,480
I'm at 439 with A4 in that car 
on Friday night at maybe like 

734
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,840
7:30 and then the next morning I
come back at 11:30 or 12:00 in 

735
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,320
the daytime and I go 439 with a 
four again. 

736
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,880
And now they're like, so I mean 
it's just a matter of investing 

737
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,840
time in the car and making the 
car good. 

738
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,240
I don't think there's advantage 
or disadvantage as far as 

739
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:31,960
consistency goes. 
I think that there is. 

740
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,160
There's an advantage in knowing 
your combination and I think the

741
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:42,720
guy who knows his combination 
better this day and age and can 

742
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:44,960
hit the tree cuz you got to be 
able to hit the tree and run the

743
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,480
number. 
That's what everybody forgets 

744
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,800
nowadays. 
It's not all about holding 

745
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,800
numbers. 
It's about hitting the tree and 

746
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,480
running the number. 
No matter how you get to the 

747
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,680
number. 
I don't care if you hold 20 

748
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,400
numbers like Jeff, Sarah, 
Donovan Williams, those guys, 

749
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,240
they can get back to the number.
They know where it's at. 

750
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,560
Or if you're the guy that just 
drives, like Randy Render, 

751
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,520
Barbie said one time, I just 
drive like this, and that's fine

752
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:07,880
too, as long as you run the 
number. 

753
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:12,160
The fact of the matter is, the 
best package wins. 

754
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,920
And what do you feel more 
comfortable and more what? 

755
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:22,080
What do you think it's more 
likely for you to have the best 

756
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,960
package on that run? 
Focus on your stuff. 

757
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,680
What can you afford? 
What can you afford to make the 

758
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,560
best it can be? 
Yep, Yep. 

759
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:31,920
No, I agree with that. 
I do. 

760
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,560
I do. 
I think that it is still a very 

761
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:41,880
even race in a bracket event. 
It all comes down to that dog on

762
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,160
start in line and I don't care 
what you're in. 

763
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,760
OK, so if you cannot hit the 
tree during this show, I've 

764
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,280
probably let go 15 times, maybe 
20. 

765
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,200
All right, if you can't hit the 
tree, you're in for a world of 

766
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,680
trouble. 
I don't care if you're in a 

767
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,040
dragster or a door car, that's 
that's number one. 

768
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,920
OK, but let's take that variable
out and let's just say you can 

769
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,960
hit the tree just fine with no 
problem. 

770
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,160
And your opponent, he's the same
as you. 

771
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,200
Matter of fact, you're racing 
yourself. 

772
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,720
One of you is in the door car of
yourself. 

773
00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:16,160
You got a copy in the door car. 
You got a copy in a dragster. 

774
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:23,480
Myself, George, I feel like the 
dragster still has the slight 

775
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:28,120
advantage, mostly because the 
race is happening behind it, 

776
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,680
right? 
It's, it's all in front of the 

777
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,680
dragster for, for, for me, It's 
behind me in my door car. 

778
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,640
Dial five 80s or five 90s, 
whatever is going to be running 

779
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,640
for the year. 
So I give the little bit of a, 

780
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,000
an advantage to the dragster in 
that sense. 

781
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,640
Or even the fast door car. 
I take a little bit away from 

782
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,800
the fast door car because I can 
see you coming a whole heck of a

783
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,040
lot easier than I can see a 
dragster coming. 

784
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,280
That's pretty much it. 
So right now I'm sticking with 

785
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,240
the dragster, but it's very, 
very minimal. 

786
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:05,600
It's not a huge disparity 
because that same person chasing

787
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,560
a car at that much mile an hour 
difference still has to know 

788
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,320
what he's got to get rid of or 
if he's getting there too quick.

789
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,880
And I think that that's a hard 
thing to do. 

790
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:23,080
That's also why I feel like we 
have dragster door car or don't 

791
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,280
have them any longer. 
It's always door car, door car, 

792
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,120
dragster, Dragster racing is 
happening side by side a whole 

793
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,880
lot more often because of that 
beat. 

794
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:40,120
I almost wish we would go back 
to dragster versus door car more

795
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,120
often. 
The hard part is we get so many 

796
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,840
cars and man, that's a time 
killer. 

797
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,360
You really gain gain time when 
the door cars come to the line 

798
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,520
and lose time when the directors
come to the line because they 

799
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,000
burn out across the line and 
dilly dally getting back. 

800
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,080
I'm sorry, guys, director, guys,
I don't mean to rag on you, but 

801
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:01,000
or most of you, I should say. 
I won't put you all in the same 

802
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,880
category, right, There's some of
you. 

803
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,280
You'd be staged before. 
Dang it, the door card get pre 

804
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,920
staged before door card doesn't 
burn out. 

805
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,360
Right, But that's all I see 
Casey. 

806
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,840
That's the main reason for door 
card. 

807
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,920
Door card director director is 
time, but I'm still giving the 

808
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,760
director the edge. 
That's what I'm. 

809
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,320
Getting Yeah. 
And, and based on what you say 

810
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,040
there, I can tell you right now 
that being in both positions, 

811
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,840
it's a lot easier to always see.
You can see the finish line and 

812
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,480
you can see your opponent at the
same time when you're the faster

813
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,800
car, when you're the slower car,
the only way to see your 

814
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,240
opponent is to take your eyes 
off the finish line. 

815
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:45,080
And that's the whole, that's why
you rarely see a, that's why you

816
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,720
rarely see the faster opponent 
get in like a skidding scenario 

817
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:52,080
of because they got caught up in
the race and stuff. 

818
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,320
That's why it's almost always 
the slower car because they're 

819
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,920
like looking back for this guy. 
And then all of a sudden you 

820
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,520
look forward, you're like, oh, 
there's a finish line, bomb the 

821
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,000
brakes. 
Yep, put it this way Casey, it's

822
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,920
an old saying that says race by 
the seat of your pants and I 

823
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,480
feel like people have 
misconstrued that that comment. 

824
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,360
It's not you erase what you see 
in the other lane. 

825
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,000
It's not. 
If you're not looking at the 

826
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,400
finish line and you hear your 
motor, do you know where you are

827
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,000
on the racetrack? 
I used to. 

828
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,080
Not as much anymore, but I used 
to. 

829
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,240
Because you're in you're in a 
Chevelle and it's it's newer, 

830
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,640
you know, you haven't gotten as 
many laps underneath it. 

831
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,320
But in MO, I'm telling you, I 
can stand on that throttle and I

832
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,480
can almost feel that finish line
coming without even looking at 

833
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,920
it half the time because I'm 
racing by the seat of my pants, 

834
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,800
not necessarily looking at the 
finish line. 

835
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,800
You see what I mean? 
So I feel like, you know, as you

836
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,040
said, the more laps you get in 
your piece of equipment, the 

837
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,560
more you know your vehicle. 
There's variables that you have 

838
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,560
to learn how to do, but the seat
of your pants puts you at a 

839
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,920
disadvantage. 
You're not looking at the finish

840
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,920
line. 
You are in a mind frame of 

841
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,200
proximity as opposed to visual 
visual proximity. 

842
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,160
You know what I mean? 
There's a big difference between

843
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,360
the two. 
And that, that brings up another

844
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,000
thought that I've had. 
It's like you have these guys 

845
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,000
that run extremely fast cars 
that also bracket race. 

846
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,400
Like, for example, obviously the
guy who runs the fastest car 

847
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:31,520
that bracket races regularly, 
Sean Langdon, you know, this 

848
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,360
guy's running 4 seconds in the 
eighth mile. 

849
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,280
He's running 3 seconds in the 
quarter mile regularly for his 

850
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,120
job. 
Talk about knowing your place on

851
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,760
the track. 
That dudes like, it's basically 

852
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,880
like he's walking, you know? 
And I mean, talk about being 

853
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,000
able to read the finish line you
got. 

854
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,320
Who else is there? 
Travis Harvey. 

855
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:55,680
Travis Harvey winning anything. 
You know, whenever, whenever 

856
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,840
you're running these fast cars 
and you put someone in a slow 

857
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,760
car, like say you have someone 
running a dragster that's used 

858
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,200
to running a dragster and then 
you put them in a door car. 

859
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,160
Is it like swinging a donut on a
bat for a baseball player before

860
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,120
they're going to try to hit a 
home run or something like that?

861
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,320
Like, is it like Albert Pujols 
over here swinging 3 bats and 

862
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,760
now he's going to go crank out 
three or four home runs that 

863
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,960
game? 
I don't know the answer to that 

864
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:20,920
question. 
You know what I mean? 

865
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:23,800
I don't. 
I don't. 

866
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:24,480
I don't know. 
Casey. 

867
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,960
It's it's it's it's weird. 
I almost don't understand it. 

868
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,960
Rephrase it. 
Rephrase the question. 

869
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,600
Just, I mean, I guess just 
simple scenarios like say you 

870
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,520
personally, let's say you're 
used to going 450. 

871
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,760
Let's say you got a 450 dragster
and let's say you got your truck

872
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,400
6 OS, right? 
And let's say it's store car 

873
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,880
dragster separation. 
So you're used to running 

874
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,200
454-5450 and then all of a 
sudden you get in your truck and

875
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,400
now we're going 6 O's. 
This stuff's all so slowed down 

876
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:56,960
now because you're a second and 
a half start. 

877
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,160
Dude, I'm telling you, my 
Chevelle, my Chevelle will get 

878
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:06,320
to my, my Chevelle would get to 
the quarter mile before my Nova 

879
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,160
would get to the eighth mile. 
You know, so it's like if I, if 

880
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,960
I'm constantly racing the 
Chevelle and then all of a 

881
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,480
sudden I run the Nova and then 
we're talking, we're not talking

882
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,760
me running a 450 drag, we're 
talking door cars. 

883
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,560
Drags are separated because 
typically if they're separated, 

884
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:25,280
most door cars, I would say 80% 
of door cars run between 570 and

885
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,480
6:50 somewhere in there. 
So no one's ever going to be 

886
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,000
that much faster, that much 
slower. 

887
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,160
But if I'm constantly running 
the Chevelle and I'm running a 

888
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,520
quarter mile or something and 
all of a sudden I run the Nova, 

889
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,480
it feels like I was swinging a 
doughnut on a bat. 

890
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,920
It feels like all of a sudden 
now I'm looking over and I'm 

891
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,200
like, man, I'm never going to 
get the finish line, you know? 

892
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,800
So it was all this stuff slowed 
down so much where you're 

893
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,520
looking over now and 
everything's just like this 

894
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,560
car's just barely creeping on 
you, whereas normally you're 

895
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,080
used to it going. 
Yeah, I think, I think that's a 

896
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,960
huge barrier. 
I think that that is a great 

897
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,640
equalizer is what you're 
mentioning. 

898
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:02,920
I've never driven a director, so
I can't tell you how fast that 

899
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,200
director is actually closing on 
me by experience of being in a 

900
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,520
director. 
One thing that I would say if I 

901
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,640
had the capability of doing 
that, many light bulbs would 

902
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,720
turn on for me just by having 
the opportunity to have ran a 

903
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:22,840
director and then get back into 
MO to where, yes, now it is 

904
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,920
slowed down quite a bit and I'm 
at the mile an hour cone, but 

905
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,320
he's not here yet. 
And then I'm going to try to hit

906
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,200
the brakes and then boom, he's 
there. 

907
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:37,000
OK, that that difference in 
being able to do it physically 

908
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,480
instead of watching it, that 
would make a big difference too.

909
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,080
And I feel like there's a lot of
people in the same boat there. 

910
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,440
Well, everyone watching this 
show obviously has driven down 

911
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:47,840
the Interstate. 
You would have driven the 

912
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,320
Interstate to go to the 
racetrack more likely so, But we

913
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,240
all know there's always this 
idiot flying down the Interstate

914
00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:59,360
where you're going allegedly 
might be going 1015 over and all

915
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,000
of a sudden someone blast past 
you like they're standing, like 

916
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,240
you're standing still. 
And you say, man, that guy must 

917
00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:06,200
be going 95 mile an hour. 
Right. 

918
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,560
That's only 20-30 mile an hour 
difference, man. 

919
00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:16,240
And so whenever you're used to 
chasing somebody that fast and 

920
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:19,720
now all of a sudden we're door 
to door, it makes things a lot 

921
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:21,680
easier. 
And I would be very interested 

922
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,880
to see what Jamie's talking 
about and all these examples and

923
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,400
all this question from the pits 
type stuff. 

924
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,200
How would they do if we didn't 
separate them anymore? 

925
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,920
Because I personally think that 
a lot of people are out of the 

926
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,160
mindset of the dragster is 
advantage. 

927
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,440
I think that track prep has 
caught up. 

928
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:47,000
I think that technology has 
caught up. 20 years ago, I think

929
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,480
absolutely the dragsters were an
advantage 100%. 

930
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,800
But I don't think that's the 
case anymore. 

931
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,480
I think tire technology is 
caught up. 

932
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,760
I think track prep is caught up.
I think shock technology is 

933
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,920
caught up. 
I think racer mentality has 

934
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,720
caught up and people have 
learned how to drive that way 

935
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:09,120
that I personally believe. 
If they quit separating door 

936
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,520
cars and dragsters, I think you 
see a whole lot more door cars 

937
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,320
out there than dragsters. 
Interesting. 

938
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,400
Yeah, that would be, I would 
definitely like to know. 

939
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,640
I think I was looking on the 
Facebook side here and might 

940
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,400
have been Jim Baucher who might 
have said something about 

941
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,000
watching, sitting down and 
watching a million or a big 

942
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:33,040
dollar race and and jotting down
the average packages for door 

943
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,560
cars and dragsters. 
There's a a, a difference, a big

944
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,360
difference. 
I don't know which way it sways 

945
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,320
Jim, but would love to know you 
know what I mean. 

946
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:50,320
This is the question though, and
I that just brought up what I 

947
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,080
was thinking about the other day
You and I were talking about is 

948
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,560
the difference in the overall 
package primarily due to 

949
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,320
reaction time. 
And the reason I say that is not

950
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,760
because one's easier to hit the 
tree than the other. 

951
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,840
Primarily if you're looking at 
the dragster category, I would 

952
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,720
say the age is under 30 of those
people on average driving the 

953
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:13,200
dragsters. 
People under the, I shouldn't 

954
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,240
say that people under the age of
30 are far more likely to be 

955
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,080
driving dragsters. 
That's what I would say. 

956
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:25,480
And I think people under the age
of 30 at about 10:00 at night, 

957
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,760
12:00 at night, definitely 2 in 
the morning are much more likely

958
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,880
to be double O on the tree than 
somebody over the age of 3040 

959
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,520
for sure. 
So. 

960
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,320
Yeah, yeah. 
Personal experience guys, I'm 

961
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,720
just saying. 
Well, we know that the youth of 

962
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:45,560
the sport, especially in today's
age, these young Gunners are 

963
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,680
really, really, really turning 
it up but. 

964
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,000
They're dominant at night. 
They're definitely dominant late

965
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,480
night, late night, you let them 
get in late and you might be in 

966
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,880
deep trouble just by sheer you 
didn't have enough Red Bull 

967
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,920
something I don't know, Red 
Bull. 

968
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:02,080
That was a plug you want to 
sponsor, just let me know go on 

969
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,080
brackerisntgmail.com. 
Anyway, anyway they. 

970
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,560
Seem like they got a lot of 
money. 

971
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,120
Well, it seemed like it, you 
know, Yeah, Casey, man, I feel 

972
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,280
like it's a good, a good, a 
great topic. 

973
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,880
And there's more to it even 
still. 

974
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,000
I still, I'm still going to say 
dragsters have a little bit of 

975
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:25,400
edge. 
The intimidation factor has to 

976
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,440
be thrown into the mix as well 
where not everybody is. 

977
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,240
I won't say everybody's 
intimidated to run a dragster, 

978
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,760
especially coming out of the 
door car, door car dragster, 

979
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,400
dragster format. 
That dragster still intimidates 

980
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,320
door car drivers just a little, 
at least some of us not going to

981
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,640
say all of us. 
So there's there's just a few 

982
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:51,280
variables that I give a slight 
advantage, a slight edge to the 

983
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,760
dragster. 
Sounds like you take door cars. 

984
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:58,560
Who do you take, Casey? 
I take again, I kind of go back 

985
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,200
to, I take whoever I feel like 
is the most confident because I 

986
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,560
can tell you right now. 
Nope. 

987
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,200
Stop, stop, stop. 
Hey, no, no, this is a perfect. 

988
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,720
This is a great example. 
This is a great example right 

989
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,000
here. 
It's a Great North Carolina 

990
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,040
example for the Spring Fling. 
OK, you give me Sean Carpenter, 

991
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,400
who's driven the exact same door
car for probably 25 years. 

992
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,480
Give me Michael Pascal, who's 
probably one of the best 

993
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,200
dragster races out here in in 
North Carolina, and I think 

994
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,160
that's a toss up because they 
both know the car. 

995
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,920
Yeah, but give me the same 
person. 

996
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:37,080
Give me a person who we know 
drives each side. 

997
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,480
Anybody who can do it. 
I, I can't really name right off

998
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,800
the top of my head. 
Give me Troy Williams, put Troy,

999
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,640
put Troy in Big Red, and put 
Troy in the FTI Dragster. 

1000
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,000
I'd take him in the dragster 
over himself every day. 

1001
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:56,120
In the in the truck. 
No, I take, I would take Troy in

1002
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,200
the dragster versus himself in 
the truck every single day. 

1003
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,200
But but isn't that giving an 
edge to the dragster? 

1004
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,280
Giving an edge to I think Troy's
better in the dragster, but you 

1005
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,720
put now think about this. 
So think about this, think about

1006
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,040
his brother think about his 
brother right in the boss lady 

1007
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,840
Camaro. 
Do you think Gary is any less of

1008
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,400
a driver in the Camaro than he 
is in the dragster? 

1009
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:19,880
Because I don't think so. 
I think he's the. 

1010
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,440
Same. 
Yeah, I think. 

1011
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,560
He he, but do you think? 
But Donovan in the dragster 

1012
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,000
versus the red truck? 
I think Donovan's better in the 

1013
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,560
dragster. 
I ain't never seen him in the 

1014
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,400
red truck. 
Maybe I just think he ain't no 

1015
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,440
attention. 
Gage is. 

1016
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,600
I've never seen him in a 
dragster but I bet you he's one 

1017
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,320
of the best door car drivers 
ever lived. 

1018
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,840
Matt Dadis far better in the 
door car than the dragster. 

1019
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,560
Wait a minute, because I need to
see Gage in a dragster, and if 

1020
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,280
he wins the way he wins in a 
door car, I'm OK to say he might

1021
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,120
be the greatest racer. 
In the. 

1022
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,120
Planet right now, period. 
All right, but. 

1023
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,680
Somebody. 
Somebody who's for sure one of 

1024
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,920
the greatest of all time, Peter 
Biondo in a dragster versus a 

1025
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,760
door car. 
I think he's going to win the 

1026
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,640
same amount in either one. 
I'm taking Pete in a door car. 

1027
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,360
I'm taking Pete in a. 
Door car I'm taking, I'm taking 

1028
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:14,120
him in either. 
I don't know that I don't know 

1029
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,120
that Peter Biondo in a door car 
is any better than Peter Biondo 

1030
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,960
in a dragster. 
I think they are the same. 

1031
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,720
You think he's Eagle? 
There are a few that way. 

1032
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,760
There's very few that Nick folk.
Nick folk might be the same way,

1033
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,640
right? 
I think Nick Folk in the Cobalt 

1034
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,240
just good as Nick Folk in the 
dragster. 

1035
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,560
Interesting, interesting now, 
man. 

1036
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:37,560
So, so anyway, that's how we're 
trying to figure out kind of the

1037
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:43,040
age-old debate of bracket 
racing, What Car has the 

1038
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,920
advantage. 
Definitely appreciate you guys 

1039
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,120
chiming in. 
I got one more. 

1040
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,240
Go ahead, Casey, got one more. 
Yeah, man, come on. 

1041
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,600
If we're, if we're talking about
being better, we, if we're 

1042
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,400
talking about being better in a 
door car versus a dragster, we 

1043
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,400
can't end the show without 
saying Chris Bear, stop driving 

1044
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,000
the dragster and only drive the 
truck. 

1045
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,560
Percent, 100%. 
That dude in that Gray and black

1046
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,200
truck. 
Hey, hey, I'm tell you what, My 

1047
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,600
starter ain't going to work if 
we pull up next to each other, 

1048
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,120
Chris, there's something going 
to happen. 

1049
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,480
I might have to pull out the 
lanes. 

1050
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,840
I don't care if it's a time run,
I'm pulling out the lanes. 

1051
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,840
I talked to him the other day on
the phone and I said he goes, 

1052
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,800
oh, this case you a GB RI said 
yeah. 

1053
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,600
And he goes, yeah, you guys are 
always giving me hell about 

1054
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,040
driving the driving the dragster
instead of the truck. 

1055
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,440
That's that was how the first 
time me and Chris ever talked, 

1056
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,120
that's that's what happened. 
So I had to say. 

1057
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,600
Hey man, you're not wrong 
though, because hey Chris, I'm 

1058
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,640
not taking anything away from 
your director driving skills 

1059
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,560
either, but it just so happens 
to be a coincidence. 

1060
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,080
Most every time I've seen you 
busting them in their mouth, 

1061
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,280
you've been in that old door. 
Trucks rule. 

1062
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,280
Look at me. 
Look at me, Woodward. 

1063
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,320
Yeah, you're ready. 
For them, of course I'm going to

1064
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,040
pay attention. 
Come on now, Casey. 

1065
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,960
Man, it's been another good 
episode. 

1066
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,920
Dude, that was a good topic. 
Shout out. 

1067
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,040
What was his name again? 
Who gave us the question from 

1068
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,120
the pit? 
Jamie Stringer junior if y'all 

1069
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,680
have any y'all have anything you
want said anything you want 

1070
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,840
talked about? 
Do you like Jamie Stringer 

1071
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,120
Junior and send us a message on 
Facebook? 

1072
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,640
Hit us up e-mail. 
You can e-mail us if you want to

1073
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,200
do that. 
Go on bracketracing@gmail.com 

1074
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,520
and we'll get it out there on 
YouTube, Facebook, Apple 

1075
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,920
Podcasts. 
I think it was on iHeartRadio, 

1076
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,480
Spotify. 
Don't forget to like, share, 

1077
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,120
subscribe, get this out there so
we can get more questions from 

1078
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,040
the pits. 
Get it out there guys. 

1079
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,040
As always, thank you for joining
us. 

1080
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,880
Another episode of Go on Bracket
Racing. 

1081
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,840
I hope that we did that age-old 
debate topics of justice. 

1082
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,360
I'm sure there's more. 
Leave your comments below. 

1083
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,200
Holler at us if you see us, 
whatever the case may be. 

1084
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,760
But let's keep the drag racing 
ladies and gentlemen, because 

1085
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,120
that's what we like to do. 
Ain't no sense of worried about 

1086
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:00,920
nothing else. 
Saturday will be here before you

1087
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,280
know it. 
Hopefully it ain't raining. 

1088
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,720
I hate the R word this time of 
year because it seems like all 

1089
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,080
week long the sun's out and the 
weather's great and then 

1090
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,360
Saturday gets here and Dang it, 
a little droplets start falling 

1091
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,320
out the sky. 
So on behalf of GBR, thanks for 

1092
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:18,400
joining us another episode. 
We'll see you guys next Tuesday.

