1 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,080 and we'll all throw gas on the Hollis to the highways they 2 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,840 keep. It yes, back here behind the 3 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:41,520 scenes that he had to he had to quit talking about that because 4 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,040 we want this to be a genuine conversation because we all get 5 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,880 on this. We all get on this show going 6 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,960 bracket racing live. Speaking of that, this is 7 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,800 episode 237. Let's just get right into it 8 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:57,520 June 9th, 2026 for specifically episode 237 brought to you live 9 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,920 every single week for free to the viewer on Facebook, YouTube 10 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,600 podcast. If you can catch us on podcast, 11 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,680 Spotify, Apple podcast, like follow, subscribe, do all that 12 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,800 stuff over there. 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So you could be at your local 47 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,160 big money bracket racing event, maybe your TV promotions event, 48 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,440 maybe your summer showdown, all kinds of stuff, man. 49 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,040 And Trevor, get them parts up to you, get you back in the race. 50 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,520 And maybe you can be like, oh, Wesley Washington having some 51 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,000 unfortunate events and then making enough money to be able 52 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,640 to pay for the fixes. Evidently mid state driveway, 53 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,120 yes, he had in the race. So he doesn't he doesn't have to 54 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,320 pay for it himself, but if he had to, he could. 55 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,200 Now I'm just saying. And of course mid state dragway 56 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,120 up there in Havana, IL weekly program, they got all kinds of 57 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,600 stuff going on up there. They got quick sixteens. 58 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,760 They got you know, you're super pro eight mile, you're pro eight 59 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,000 mile. They got the best part about 60 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,080 their quick sixteens and this actually will apply to a later 61 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:36,200 conversation. 550 cut off as far as quick 16 goes, door cars and 62 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,360 dragsters separate till the finals. 63 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,680 Go to mid State Dragway if you're up there in that Midwest 64 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,440 area and go to some of the best race in action you can see 65 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:51,120 anywhere in the Midwest. So George, episode 237, what do 66 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,880 you have to say before we get in it? 67 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,800 Not much, not much of anything. You've already hit the nail on 68 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,760 the head pretty good there about getting, getting in where you 69 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,880 fit in. There's always something going 70 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,520 on out there at Mid State Dragway, so I'm going to go 71 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,200 there first, as I always do. Check out this flyer. 72 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,960 I'm digging the colors. By the way, I'm oops, my mouse 73 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,360 is little jacked up, so if that happens more than once, well, I 74 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,840 apologize, but there's the flyer. 75 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,920 It's double clicking what it's doing, Casey, it's clicking 76 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,920 twice. So if I hit cut, it actually 77 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,080 cuts twice. Yeah, that sucks. 78 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,720 Anyway, here's the Mid State flyer coming to you live June 79 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,640 19th through 21st. Well that's my anniversary so I 80 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,600 can promise I'll be on the beach somewhere, but mid states going 81 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,880 to be hitting off as always. 32 cars to warm up on a Friday 82 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,480 night. Get in where you fit in, get 83 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,760 there early, get you some time on the track. 84 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,400 Coming straight out Saturday and Sunday for 10K off the top. 85 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,280 Don't forget this is a points program embedded inside of this 86 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:56,160 race where you could be racing for 10 grand to enter free at 87 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,840 the end of the year, meaning you don't have to. 88 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,920 It's not an entry. I have to take a few steps back, 89 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,720 but you don't have to pay an entry fee. 90 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,200 You just have to do pretty well within the points program and 91 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,680 qualify to get into this. To get into this, I believe 2 92 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:14,480 drivers will be selected at random I believe. 93 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,320 Don't quote me here, but the Flyers right there so you'd read 94 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,080 it. But as always, as Casey 95 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,360 mentioned, door cars versus door cars, dragsters versus dragsters 96 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:33,200 if they are over 150 entries. Next up and always going to be 97 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,080 what I consider a race to look forward to, especially out here 98 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,960 in the Dallas Fort Worth area. That's that Super Bucks 99 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,120 showdown. It's brought to you by 100 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,360 Pennington Spinnington Productions, peeps in the and 101 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,680 the brothers over there, Michael Phillip, All those guys and 102 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:47,880 their spouses put on a heck of a show. 103 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,680 Yeah, come on out and support it. 104 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:53,320 We did get postponed on the very last one, so the new dates are 105 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,360 right in front of you. If you don't understand this 106 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,080 race, I'll try to break it down as best as I can for you real 107 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,640 fast. Thursday is an all run event. 5 108 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,120 grand to win it, right? Saturday and Sunday. 109 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,280 Excuse me? Friday and Saturday we go for 110 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,480 20K on the top. That's 2K on the bottom. 111 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,840 If you enter in the Risky Business, you get to flow right 112 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,560 on into that Super Pro 20K and I have a chance to make you a 113 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:21,480 quite a bit more change. There's always going to be some 114 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,200 duck races out there at the Pennants and Productions races 115 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,960 by the pennants and Bros and some junior dragster love as 116 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,640 well. So make sure if you're anywhere 117 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:35,160 near either of the two areas that you come on out, show some 118 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,160 support, Fill up the stands, fill up the bleachers. 119 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,480 If you're just a spectator, join the crowd. 120 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:46,640 Be part of one of those seas. But for now and welcoming back, 121 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,840 long time follower to a going bracket racing here, up and 122 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,560 coming voice over the airwaves. Much better than mine. 123 00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:58,840 It isn't as raspy and it might not be as deep, but it's sure as 124 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,760 heck better than mine. Oh, Troy Abercrombie's here to 125 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,040 talk with us. He's a singer now too. 126 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,240 I saw Will. You be saying it. 127 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,200 Come on, serenade us real quick. I do it all buddy. 128 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,320 Oh man. Me and Parker we we was doing 129 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,640 duets in the pits, riding around in the golf cart. 130 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,080 Me and Parker T-ball this this weekend having a good time out 131 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,080 in the Woodburn I. Hit him with a little bit of 132 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,960 that BBQ staying on the white T-shirt, I think. 133 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,640 That was, we were singing. We were singing The Band Perry 134 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,440 this weekend. Slow jams. 135 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,600 Slow jams, Troy, what's been up? Man, We hadn't talked to you in 136 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,880 a long time and definitely glad to have have you back on the 137 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,080 show. And as we're going to keep it 138 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,600 moving, guys, if you have any questions for Troy, make sure 139 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,680 you leave a minute chat there. That way we can we can get him 140 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,520 over the airwaves, get him, get Troy, maybe give us an answer 141 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,920 impromptu without even thinking about it. 142 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,160 It's always fun that way. But Troy, what's been new, man? 143 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,440 It's good to be back, guys. I think the first time I was on 144 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,480 here was right before the inaugural summer showdown a 145 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,200 couple years ago. So it's been a couple years 146 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,520 since we got the chat. I'm, I'm pretty sure I am the OG 147 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,640 subscriber of this particular YouTube channel, something I 148 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,400 take pride in. Been rocking with you guys for a 149 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,640 long time. I keep watching the episode 150 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,680 count because I know you've been doing it for longer than five 151 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:20,960 years now, but had you done an episode every week, episode 260 152 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,600 would be the 5th year would be 5 years of of consecutive episode. 153 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,240 So I keep watching the counter because y'all got to blow it up 154 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,960 for 260. Man, that's a big one. 155 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,680 And yeah, just happy to be here guys. 156 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:35,720 Thanks for thanks for having me. Absolutely. 157 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,920 Man, obviously you know, the OG is always welcome anytime, but 158 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,200 tell us this man, because it seems like every time that I 159 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,880 talk to, you're getting involved with something else in drag 160 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,440 racing. So let's talk. 161 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,520 Let's talk about your personal race, man. 162 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,560 You went out on a limb couple years ago now and you've been 163 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:58,320 having a a yearly event up there in Woodburn Summer Showdown. 164 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,640 How'd everything go? You know, all things considered, 165 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,760 man, it went really good. As you guys know, this is a 166 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,160 market in the Pacific Northwest where big money bracket racing 167 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,360 is just not that much of a thing, just on the West Coast in 168 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,600 general, right? Forsyth's been flying the flag 169 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,320 out here for a long time and doing a great job. 170 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,800 Course Peter brings the fling out. 171 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,440 But that's kind of its own thing, you know, Certainly don't 172 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:22,680 wouldn't consider it a West Coast event, even though it kind 173 00:13:22,680 --> 00:13:25,840 of happens out here. There's been some stuff off and 174 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,240 on up at a little track called Bremerton Raceway over the 175 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,640 years, some really great programs. 176 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,360 They just haven't, they've came and went, right? 177 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,360 And they were great while they were here and then and then they 178 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,200 came and went. And when I started racing at 179 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,280 Woodburn, I would put Motor Mania on the, the TV in the, in 180 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,400 the lounge and we'd watch whatever big money race was 181 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,880 going on, you know, that weekend and, and heard enough people 182 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,920 say, man, I wish we had that here at Woodburn. 183 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,760 And eventually I'm just the kind of guy that's like, well, let's, 184 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,120 let's have it then. And so we had the pilot event 185 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,000 that first year. It was just a, a single day 186 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,760 deal. We had some gamblers on Friday 187 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,920 and a, and a 10K5K on Saturday. We were able to get a full 188 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,080 weekend on the schedule last year and it, and it kind of blew 189 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,160 up. And that's really when it kind 190 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,200 of took hold and and had really, really high expectations for 191 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,720 this third year. So much buzz around the event 192 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,800 leading up to it. I wanted to come on last week 193 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,960 leading into the event, but I'll be honest, I was a little 194 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,840 worried about the weather and I didn't want to get on here and 195 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,680 hype up a bunch of stuff and make a bunch of promises that I 196 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,520 couldn't keep. So in the end, man, we did have 197 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,000 some weather and that hurt our car count a little bit versus 198 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,800 what I expected. But we still had a really strong 199 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,760 turn out. People from all over the 200 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,720 Northwest, Canada, California, Utah, Dylan Guy hopped on a 201 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,040 plane and flew all the way out from Tennessee and raced with 202 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,480 us. So it went off man. 203 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,120 And, and we had a great time and, and we paid the entire 204 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,280 purse all weekend and, and, and we had a blast. 205 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,200 So it worked out. Great to hear man. 206 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,280 Obviously, you know, speaking to all of your speaking to all of 207 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,800 your new endeavors, so to speak. NHRA announcer. 208 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,440 Now it's some divisional events flying all over the place. 209 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,920 I think you're going somewhere this weekend as well. 210 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,320 I leave tomorrow morning. You know, I started doing some 211 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,800 local track stuff at Woodburn a few years back. 212 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,440 I don't race that much. I got 3 kids and a wife and a 213 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,240 pretty demanding career and so it was a big. 214 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,640 Day tonight, isn't it? It is brother, we got dinner to 215 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,360 do tonight. So you know a big season for me 216 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,280 is like 8 events night and if I can make 8-9 events then I had 217 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,240 me a big season and so on those weekends where I'd go out early, 218 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,560 I don't want to go home yet. You know, I've been waiting two 219 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,680 months maybe to get to the track and working on the car all week 220 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,200 and, and takes me two hours to get there. 221 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,440 So I didn't want to drive home yet. 222 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,560 So I started hanging out in the tower and and started announcing 223 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,200 that my local track then got to do a divisional there. 224 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,760 That blossomed into the big money stuff with Luke Bogacki 225 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,560 for a couple years until he shut that race down, unfortunately 226 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,040 this last year. And then I parlayed that into 227 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,360 more divisionals in the National in Seattle. 228 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,280 I leave tomorrow for the Sports Nationals up at Mission Raceway 229 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,120 Park and then that's followed by a divisional. 230 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,640 So be up there for four or five days hanging out for the for the 231 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,640 Sports Nats. I'll get home next Monday and 232 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,960 hop on a plane on Wednesday to head out to VMP for the TV 233 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,920 Promotions Triple 50. So staying busy, man. 234 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:38,960 So I guess a question I have basically around that type of 235 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,920 stuff is what have you learned with being involved with NHRA? 236 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,520 Has it helped you with your personal event as it helped you 237 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,480 working for TB? Did it help you get your foot? 238 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,360 Because you did NHRA before TB right? 239 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,960 Yeah, Yep, yeah. I mean, it's certainly giving me 240 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,920 more experience on the mic, more exposure to different people, 241 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,760 different types of operations. And I think, I think just in 242 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,440 general, man, getting in the tower, whether it's for my local 243 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:10,040 track or with NHRA or with the TB crew, like it gives you such 244 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,720 a more well-rounded perspective about what goes on, what goes 245 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,560 into these things. And that's giving me such a, a, 246 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,240 a greater appreciation just for, for every race I go to. 247 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,520 Like you're never going to, I'm never going to be the guy in the 248 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,800 staging lanes complaining about what's going on. 249 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:29,280 That's just not me. And even when there's things to 250 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,200 complain about, I've been on both sides of the, of the tower 251 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,520 glass and, and I know what it takes to, to put on an event 252 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:43,480 and, and I know how difficult it is to do it, to do it, to do it 253 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,360 well and to make, to make everybody happy. 254 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:51,800 Isn't it's just an impossible task that, that track promoters, 255 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,840 track operators, race promoters try to do every. 256 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,720 It's, it's an impossible task that they keep coming back and 257 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,480 trying to accomplish every weekend. 258 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,320 And so that just gives me a ton of appreciation just when I have 259 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,600 an opportunity to go to a track because I know what goes into 260 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:08,040 it. So. 261 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,920 Yeah, that's pretty solid too. And I'd have to imagine 262 00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:15,280 something new happens each time you're there that you're taking 263 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,480 back, almost like a trial and error. 264 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,080 Almost, man. But I must say, from the outside 265 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,600 looking in, you're doing a heck of a job. 266 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,440 I'm going to say that right off the bat and as we continue 267 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,680 within this show, I'm going to pick your brain about your 268 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,880 thoughts in particular on what we can do to make the sport of 269 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,480 drag racing a little bit better even. 270 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,640 And I, I said drag race and not bracket racing just this time in 271 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,480 particular, because I feel like that a lot of times things carry 272 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,720 over from whatever level of drag racing that you're doing to the 273 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,200 next. So one thing that I know for a 274 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,120 fact, and I feel like it's a good time to get off into it. 275 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,360 I have a question from the pit and I'm going to allow him to 276 00:18:56,360 --> 00:19:00,120 remain anonymous because he never told me that I could say 277 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:03,560 his name. But he has a wonderful question 278 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,080 that I feel like all three of us could probably do a good job of 279 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:10,680 answering. May spill us over into the 280 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:16,360 actual marketing partnership time of this particular show. 281 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:23,440 But paraphrasing here, he wants to know how do we make bracket 282 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:28,120 racing drag racing, all of the above turn into a college game 283 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:35,800 day feel or more of a interaction in between broadcast 284 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:41,000 and racers and Casey and I've always had this idea Troy, and 285 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,360 I'm sure you remember it. It's it's a segment we used to 286 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:47,320 have called Live from the Eighth Mile and just kind of want your 287 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,960 take on that and what it would actually what do we need to do 288 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,000 as a sport in order to make Live from the Eighth Mile come alive 289 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,440 in some type of capacity? I miss Live from the eighth 290 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,720 mile, man, I'm I, it didn't matter if I was driving or what 291 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,400 I was doing. If Live from the eighth mile was 292 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,600 on, I was always tuning in. It was a ton of fun. 293 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,880 And I'm going to plug TB right now because they're starting to 294 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,760 do some things and try some things that I think really spice 295 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,280 up a AA15 hour motor mania. Broadcast is a is a grind right 296 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:22,400 to get through? And things like live from the 297 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,240 latter rounds, you know, where they're taking, you know, Mark 298 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,920 and Joanne are getting PJ down in the lanes and he's walking 299 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,280 through the lanes when we're at 8 cars or 16 cars, talking to 300 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,960 these folks, chopping it up with them about their strategy. 301 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,480 We're talking about the split, You know, the thing that they're 302 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,400 doing with the buy background now, right, Which is the one 303 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,640 round you turn off when you're watching the live stream. 304 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,280 But what's what's interesting about the buy background, man, 305 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,840 that's the first real big moment of the race, right? 306 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,520 Because you got, especially if you're the for the single entry 307 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,160 guys that are in the buy background. 308 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,920 I mean, this is it, that's the final round. 309 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:01,320 And and so we, we tend to kind of look over the buy background, 310 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,320 I think as spectators. So we won't know who's going to 311 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,440 win the 50K at the end of the night, but that's the first big 312 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,120 moment of the day right there. And, and they've done something 313 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:13,320 with the the redemption round broadcast where Tyler and PJ are 314 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,960 chopping it up and, and making it exciting, making it fun. 315 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,520 It's my favorite part of the live stream now, you know, And 316 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,920 so I think trying new things and, and finding the stories 317 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,320 that that maybe get overlooked and highlighting them. 318 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:27,760 I mean, that's the whole thing, right? 319 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,520 It's all about the story and, and we have so many stories to 320 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,560 tell in this sport that there's no shortage of it, right? 321 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,680 It's just someone's got to tell them, you know, and you got to 322 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,960 do it in a compelling way, right, That you got to find 323 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,320 someone who's good at storytelling. 324 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,200 You got to find the people that have the good stories, get them 325 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,160 together. And I think that's that's always 326 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,760 been the recipe, right? Absolutely great and expected. 327 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,800 I expected you to bring that up because that is, this is exactly 328 00:21:56,120 --> 00:22:00,600 what I'm leading, leading into as a little bit of a topic 329 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,600 within a topic, just the ability to broadcast. 330 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:07,560 You know, George, George lost first round. 331 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,240 He was 10. Totally just couldn't get out of 332 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,600 it. Well, George might have lost 333 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,440 second round or in buybacks and he was 8 total and he still 334 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,280 didn't get out of it. That story within that drag race 335 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,280 is pretty large to me. It's pretty sucky if if I'm 336 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,040 actually on the losing end of both of those two passes, right? 337 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:29,200 But somebody is inevitably on the end of that almost every 338 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,920 time we go drag racing and we never hear about it. 339 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,920 And that's what that's the part where I feel like we're missing 340 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:42,560 a little bit of a, a suspense or a, a wow factor or a oh crap, 341 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:47,120 This is why I love this sport. Let's talk to the guy who is 10 342 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:49,120 total and eight total and couldn't even get out of 343 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:51,480 buybacks live on this camera right here. 344 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,600 Hey, man, get over here. Talk to us live at the eighth 345 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,920 mile so that. Yeah, man, yeah, man, you're 346 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,520 right on there. Well, it gives so many The 347 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,440 hardest thing with bracket racing is to explain to somebody 348 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,200 why they should sponsor a bracket racing car. 349 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,920 You never see it. It's very rare if anybody ever 350 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,000 has a sponsor on the side of their car, 99% chance they own 351 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,560 the company or know the guy who owns the company and they're 352 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,000 just kind of helping them out. But the fact of the matter is 353 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,240 the more T the TV time is what sells sponsorships. 354 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:28,000 And I really like, I know Jared Pennington, you know, Kohlberg 355 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,440 promotions, a lot of they send guys into the pits and talk to 356 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,360 people. I think T BS done that in the 357 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:36,080 past. I know Peter's done that in the 358 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,240 past. Obviously that takes more 359 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,600 employees and it's really not making the promoter any more 360 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,560 money per SE. But I always have wondered what, 361 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,080 what would it take to show the value in that? 362 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,960 Because at a certain point we're at the point in bracket racing 363 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,560 where the the races are full, the big races that would have 364 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,320 something like that or have the ability to do that, they're 365 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,720 full. So there really isn't anything 366 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,880 in particular to gain for the promoters because the promoters 367 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:15,880 goal is to sell the race out. So other than the, I feel like 368 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:21,960 TBI feel like TB is doing things above and beyond that they don't 369 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,960 need to do because they think it's cool and they know what 370 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,080 it's what it looks like on TV and they want it. 371 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,120 They want it to be cool. And I feel like that's why they 372 00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:37,600 rose so quickly is because they were willing to put in the extra 373 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,360 effort that they didn't need to do. 374 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,200 And I believe that their overall stream, even though it's 375 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,720 streamed by the same people that have streamed basically 376 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,920 everything that has got us to this point for the most part. 377 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,960 But it's their ideas that have allowed them to progress in in 378 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,120 basically skyrocket to being they didn't really have to do 379 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,560 the whole. And I know Brian Whitworth will 380 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,600 freak out if I say this. He's on here. 381 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,200 Better be careful. He's watching. 382 00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:13,720 They didn't have to do the whole I, I want to, I, I can't think 383 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,680 of another way to say it, but they didn't have to pay their 384 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,240 dues, so to speak, as like this one's good and then this one 385 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,040 they lose their butt on and then this one, you know, and I'm sure 386 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,760 that that is not 100% the case. But the reason that they were so 387 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,880 successful so quickly and jumped into what I consider, I consider 388 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,280 the top 3IN no particular order in all of in all of bracket 389 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,160 racing promotions to be obviously Spring Fling, 390 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:46,200 obviously Great American. We'll just say top 4 because the 391 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,800 OG million stands alone on its own deal and TB promotions and 392 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,720 it's not been around that long. Well, and I think, I mean, you 393 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,080 bring that up and it's like, I, I know what you're getting at, 394 00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:01,040 right, is that they never had to deal with like catastrophic 395 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,760 failure, right? To to come back from when you 396 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,640 say pay their dues. And I know them boys have paid 397 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,280 their dues, but I know what you're trying to say there. 398 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,080 And, and I think that's what you get when you have a promotion 399 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,000 that's built by racers, right? And and not just, not just any 400 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,520 racers, right? Some, some people who've been in 401 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,600 this game for a long time at a high, high level, right, Whether 402 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,560 it's class racing with Tebow to big money racing with both of 403 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,000 them and the people that they've surrounded themselves with. 404 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,640 I, I now get to play a small part in that, right? 405 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,800 They're they're way beyond me in that regard, but they've built 406 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,640 an operation with a bunch of people who get it. 407 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,080 And, and when you do that, right, then you can put out a 408 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,480 good product because you got a bunch of people that all the 409 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,760 ideas are good ideas, right? And we got too many good ideas. 410 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,800 We're sitting around chopping up with all these things we want to 411 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,080 do. And like, there's not enough 412 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,440 time for all the good ideas that are flying around in the, the 413 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,520 kind of after action chats that we have. 414 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,480 And I think that's the strength of TB, you know, and you 415 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,280 mentioned those other ones. I mean, the Spring fling has 416 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,880 been the gold standard and big money bracket racing for a long 417 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,920 time now because they put on so many events. 418 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:12,000 The they stand on the shoulders of the OG million. 419 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,880 Who is the OG? You know, and so it's just been, 420 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,320 I've been talking to to you about TB for years before I even 421 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,520 knew these guys, you know, and I used to go on the the Costello 422 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,040 show on Monday, which is now at a conflict with my podcast, the 423 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,680 bracket breakdown Mondays at 5:30. 424 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,440 And, and I was telling him like, like, man, I think this is the 425 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,320 best show in the game right now. And, and it's funny when you 426 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,160 talk about what they're doing because it's cool and it's fun. 427 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,960 And you watch that stream after the first race in Saint Louis 428 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,600 this year, Brian asked me, he goes, what do you think? 429 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,560 And and how is I go, man, it's exactly what I expected. 430 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,560 And what I meant was like, when I watched those streams and I 431 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,160 watched the event, I'm like, man, that looks like a blast, 432 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,880 just even through the camera, right? 433 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,720 And when I got there, it really was that, right? 434 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,880 What I thought it was on TV was actually what it was once I got 435 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,640 there, but even better because I was there. 436 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,320 And so that's the that's the thing. 437 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,200 And I know Peter prioritizes that, right? 438 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,480 The experience, you set up the experience, you tell people what 439 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,800 they're going to get and when they get there, you deliver. 440 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,720 And you know, that's that's the secret to the third, that it's 441 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,400 not a secret sauce, but that's the secret sauce, right? 442 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,160 Is that you you provide people an experience that's authentic, 443 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,800 that's exciting, that's a good time. 444 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,680 And and that's how you build value and that's how you build 445 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,640 trust in your brand. And that's what makes people 446 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,040 swing the gates open. That's why the Internet melts 447 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,280 down every time they open up a pre entry. 448 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,520 Right. And it sells out immediately. 449 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,720 That, I mean, that's, that's all you need is, is to see even if 450 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,600 something sells out 75% in the first day, I mean, you already 451 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,840 know what's going to happen. And it's, it's funny you say 452 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,800 that whole, it's, it's a vibe thing. 453 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,120 It's, it is what it is. I heard that 5 or 6 times 454 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,560 whenever I went to the Spring Fling last year, Maddie was the 455 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,200 one that was the one that Maddie runnered up in my car and I went 456 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,320 down there 'cause we actually had to put a transmission in it. 457 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,080 So we swapped one out of one of his cars into that car. 458 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,600 Anyway, Richie Howard told me there's just something about the 459 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,840 Spring Fling. And then Travis Morton came by 460 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,480 later and he said the same thing. 461 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,440 He goes, you hear the songs are playing on the radio. 462 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,560 He's like, you don't hear this type of stuff at A at a 463 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,680 racetrack. It's like when you're out, you 464 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,160 can ride around on the golf cart drinking beer and it's like 465 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,240 you're just hanging out with your friends in this massive, 466 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,600 you know, community campground basically. 467 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,960 And it makes you want to stay and hang out. 468 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,360 It's, it's an event that you, you know, it's kind of like 469 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,640 whenever people say, oh, every July 4th, our family goes here. 470 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,400 Every this time our family goes here. 471 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,720 Well, at particular races, like for example, the, the twin 50s 472 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,720 for TB, it's to the point now where that's just what people 473 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,640 do. They all go to the twin 50s. 474 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,280 They, you know, people all go to the Spring Fling a lot, you 475 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,880 know, or whatever it's called now, you know, like, but. 476 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,120 Don Benson. Yeah, and it's called who knows 477 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,520 how many there's dude, it's wild. 478 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,400 Side note on that, how many different names people have for 479 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,840 that place out here. People who are from here call it 480 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,160 Dunn Benson. Still people who are like me and 481 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,520 just grew up racing call it Galot. 482 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,360 And now it's called Toronto Motorsports Park Galot, 483 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,160 something another Benson, blah, blah, blah. 484 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,360 You know, it's, it's something, something crazy now. 485 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,520 That's right that's right Casey man, all I know is it's 486 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,280 something special is what what is inevitable for that racetrack 487 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:52,760 guys do me a favor hang in there hit that like and share don't go 488 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,720 anywhere and we'll be back with a little bit more of a Troy 489 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,800 going to get into a little bit more meat of this particular 490 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,560 show. 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If you guys need anything for 542 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,600 those operations, those race cars, those trailers, whatever 543 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,679 the case may be, look no further than the logos that you see on 544 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:17,800 the screen that are presented in front of you right now. 545 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,600 GBR 10 will get you 10% off over there at Driven Racing. 546 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,880 Well, for some reason, Casey, I always forget to plug GBR 10. 547 00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:28,800 I don't know why, but I'll get better at it. 548 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,280 Guys. Let's continue with the let's, 549 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,159 let's keep it going. Yeah, man, I so this is this is 550 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:37,840 the part. This is why Brian Wentworth is 551 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,400 probably watching. Maybe I don't know, but I just 552 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:47,120 so obviously every, you know, B double O show, they talked about 553 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,000 it a little bit. Kendra Larson brought it up 554 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,760 essentially, but NHRA talking about, you know, there's 555 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,920 everybody's up in arms about top dragster potentially going to A7 556 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,440 flat minimum die or maximum. I guess it would be in this case 557 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,520 dial in. Let's just get your overall 558 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,360 initial thoughts on that, 'cause I have some ideas on that that I 559 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,760 specifically said I would mention on this show that I 560 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,360 don't think anybody's talked about yet. 561 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,640 What are you initially bringing the topic up? 562 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,040 What are your thoughts? If they do that, we'll roll 563 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,040 three more degrees of timing and take £50 out of Cooper Chung's 564 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,520 car and we'll come whip them again. 565 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,080 Yeah, that's what I thought you'd say. 566 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,200 That's what I thought you'd say. But I have a general idea and 567 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:37,760 this one isn't my particular thoughts, but I did see someone 568 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,400 might have been Mario Bosch, I don't know. 569 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,520 But anyway, somebody had talked about saying NHRA should 570 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,600 potentially adopt the PDRA style qualifying, which for those who 571 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,080 don't know PDRA essentially what they want to qualify as they 572 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,880 have an elite top dragster and an elite top sportsman, which is 573 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,240 the fastest 16 cars. So when you see qualifying sheet 574 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:05,560 for regular top dragster or regular top sportsman that says 575 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,720 one through 32 or one through 48, one is not one, one is 17. 576 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:15,800 Well, the way they do it is they have they have to have X amount 577 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,680 of cars. Their goal is to run 16 cars. 578 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,080 And basically out of the goodness of how many people show 579 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:29,720 up, they say, OK, if there's say 12 cars additionally, so there 580 00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:33,000 would be, so there would be 28 cars. 581 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,600 So you have your 16 elite cars and then you have 12 slow cars, 582 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,960 then they'll run an 8 car slow field. 583 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,000 So basically, So what it's saying is is you have to 584 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,680 qualify. And then of course that goes up 585 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,440 and it goes up through 48 is the maximum amount of cars they 586 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,560 qualify. And the reason I bring that up 587 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:58,120 is the spirit of the top dragster and top sportsman style 588 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,160 class. It's it's not an all run field. 589 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,080 It shouldn't be an all run field. 590 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,880 What it should be is you have to earn your way to even have the 591 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,800 ability to race. And that is why I feel like, and 592 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,880 I believe this because there's a lot of fork, you know anymore. 593 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,880 I mean, a 420 dragster is not uncommon at your local bracket 594 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,360 race anymore. And those cars, certainly they 595 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,040 can go out there and run six 80s depending on what type of if 596 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,320 they got power adders or not, they'd run six 80s, six 70s, 597 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:34,200 whatever. But the fact of the matter is a 598 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:40,080 lot of times they can't because you have to put in the time to 599 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,000 be able to make a fast car like that that good to where it'll 600 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,680 repeat. Now, I'm not saying that people 601 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,960 can't because obviously Speaking of Bosch, Darien Bosch is 602 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,600 probably the best fast car racer out there right now, period. 603 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,280 Top sportsman, top dragster, whatever. 604 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,280 He's got the number one on the side of his car. 605 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,560 So if you want to argue with it, I don't know who you're arguing 606 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,000 with. But anyway, I just kind of like 607 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,840 the idea of keeping, keeping the class fast and I think that it 608 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,240 just needs to have a change to the qualifying structure to do 609 00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:15,240 so. So before I go further into 610 00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:17,240 that, what are your initial thoughts now? 611 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,520 I mean, I'll talk about out of both sides of my mouth a little 612 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,400 bit on this stuff because I love top dragster and top sportsman. 613 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,600 And, and if the people in the class are going to push it to be 614 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,680 faster and faster and faster, I think that's awesome, right? 615 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,120 Because that is the spirit of that class is to be super fast. 616 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,440 At the end of the day, it's a, it's still a bracket class 617 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,720 though, And, and the rules are the rules and nobody's cheating 618 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:50,160 to get in the field and, and either bring 32620 cars and 619 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,760 you're problem solved, right? Bring 32620 cars and you solved 620 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,640 your own problem. But until you do that, then I 621 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,280 don't know what we're talking about, right? 622 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,120 And and and if you want to change the rules, change the 623 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,680 rules, I guess, But I don't know why, again, why you'd want to be 624 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,200 why you'd want to do that and be exclusive other than just to say 625 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,200 that your field was fast or, or because you don't want to finish 626 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,000 line. Look, you don't want to be a 610 627 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:22,520 guy driving a 720 finish line. Look like I don't understand why 628 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,880 I understand pushing the class to be fast. 629 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,480 I'm all for that, right? If if we had a, you know, 624 630 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,280 bump spot in top dragster, I'd be right. 631 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,600 Who wouldn't be stoked about that? 632 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,360 Cooper Chun and Casey Plaza would be stoked about that, 633 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,520 right? We we'd love to see 32 cars 624 634 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,080 faster. Nobody's nobody would complain 635 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,200 about that. So but if that's what you want, 636 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,320 then bring them out right, But I don't see them. 637 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,440 And so I don't think we're in a position in drag racing right 638 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,440 now to be exclusionary. You know what I mean? 639 00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:00,840 And, and look be do better. I mean, I, I don't know what 640 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,160 they, you know, I love what Mario is saying in principle. 641 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,240 Hey. Let's go, Let's go fast. 642 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:09,200 Where his mouth is he? Did yeah, and that's cool, 643 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,040 right? Like I love saying let's go 644 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,520 fast. I got no problems with that. 645 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,320 But but the rules are the rules and the rules allow for this to 646 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,480 to happen right now. And, you know, the the guy in 647 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,320 the slow car had the same crappy look at the finish line as the 648 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,520 guy in the fast car, You know what I'm saying? 649 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,160 So yeah. And. 650 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,640 I don't think that so my thought is not necessarily anything 651 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,800 against the slow cars running it because I agree with that 100%. 652 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,040 Anybody who's ever ran, you know, even even a 470 dragster 653 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,080 and then also driven A-650 door car some or even a junior 654 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,400 dragster. Well, it'd probably have to be a 655 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,760 door car to even to to make this make sense. 656 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,440 But the fact of the matter is you can't judge that guy and 657 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,240 that guy can't judge you. And on the quarter mile, it's 658 00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:58,720 obviously even further exacerbated than that due to 659 00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:04,280 mile an hour differences. But my personal thought on it, 660 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,000 and this is what this is what I don't think anybody's brought 661 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,480 up, we can all agree the fact that the top source and top 662 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,480 dragster classes, slower cars are not in the spirit of why the 663 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,120 class was invented. It was invented for the fast 664 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,120 bracket car where you can still you can't afford the heads up 665 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,160 race because obviously a step up from top dragster be alcohol 666 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,400 dragster and then the step up from task force and it'd be like 667 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,800 pro mod or pro stock or something like that. 668 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:33,280 Let. Me. 669 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,400 Let me jump in on you, Casey, though. 670 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,040 But like, where's the room we're going to give people to get 671 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,320 fast, right? You don't just be fast. 672 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,000 And so this is a this is a sport. 673 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,680 Very few people have the resources of the means or even 674 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,240 the knowledge and know how to just drop the money and build a 675 00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:55,400 620 top dragster, right? So where's the room for someone 676 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,640 to get fast? Give someone a taste of this 677 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:03,280 class at 690 and they have a little bit of success and they 678 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,360 start investing in that program and they come back out in three 679 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,800 months and they're running six 70s and they come back at the 680 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,240 season Oprah the next year and they're running 6 fifties, 681 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,720 right? Where, where's that room to let 682 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:20,240 people get fast and learn about this class and, and learn to 683 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,440 love it, you know? It's not defined yet, but one 684 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,400 thing we can all, and I feel like this panel right here, us 685 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,760 three may already agree with this, maybe even others within 686 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,240 the virtual bleachers and let us know in the bleachers if you 687 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:34,880 agree with this comment I'm going to make here. 688 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,560 But we can all agree that a top dragster shouldn't be running 689 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,920 750. Right. 690 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,360 Yeah. It needs to be at least 749. 691 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,000 It needs to be advanced ET is what I feel like but. 692 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,800 But let's let's go a step further 'cause I still still 693 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,640 like, I feel like this panel would agree you'd better be 694 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:59,600 below 7:30 to me because how are you a top dragster and you're 695 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,120 only running seven 30s? Well, this is my overall thought 696 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,960 and I think this might change a lot of people's opinion. 697 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:12,280 So this kind of a long winded thing, but off the whole fact of 698 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,280 the class supposed to be fast. This is a divisional type 699 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:23,000 championship deal, world championship deal, basically. 700 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,200 I think a lot of the guys, and this is their own, this is their 701 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,120 own fault. I'm not saying that it's not. 702 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,800 A lot of guys believe and it is true that say you got that 620 703 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,240 top dragster and I know more about the door car stuff than 704 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:41,840 dragster stuff. I don't know if it's easier to 705 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,440 go fast in a dragster or not. At a certain point, anything 706 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:49,320 fast is hard to hard to run. But we're talking about top 707 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,160 drags for right now. Your 770 car, it's going to go 708 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,840 down all the time it and the way you know, you've announced an 709 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,000 HRA stuff, you might make one run Thursday and you might make 710 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,520 another run Friday night and you might make your next run 711 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:06,960 Saturday morning. Well, if it's 80° and 70° and 712 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,280 now all of a sudden it's 100° and the track temperature is 713 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,720 160, that fast car might shake tires now. 714 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,600 And that's his own problem for not understanding what his car's 715 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,400 capabilities are. My point is that would be 716 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,960 easier. Now my overall point is the fact 717 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:29,040 that with this being a point series event, I think a lot of 718 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,800 these slow guys might come in and disrupt some of the points 719 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,160 programs because they're only going to run one event because 720 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,360 they heard there were only 17 cars entered in a 32 car field. 721 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,160 So it's essentially all run. They come show up with their 722 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,480 bracket car when the event knock some people out that otherwise 723 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,960 you know, 'cause the way laddered stuff. 724 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,880 So now we're going. Hold on now, hold on now. 725 00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:59,080 But I think that a lot of the fast guys are staying away 726 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,600 because they don't want to run the slow cars because they don't 727 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,200 know their combination well enough. 728 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,480 And that's their own fault for not showing up. 729 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,880 But I also think that it might knock people out that otherwise 730 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,520 would have been running. And I think the class kind of 731 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:20,720 dies a slow death because because the slow cars not 732 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:22,200 necessarily that they're allowed. 733 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,360 And I did, I will say I did post on Kendra's original post 734 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:33,560 started all this stuff. I I think that top dragster 735 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:40,480 period should at least have to dial advance DT749 and everybody 736 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,280 agreed with that. Now that's, that's not saying 737 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,320 650. I mean, there's a big difference 738 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,600 between 7:49 and 7:00. Four, I don't have a problem 739 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,160 with that. I wouldn't have a problem with 740 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,320 that. And like, but it sounds to me 741 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,960 like in the end, what we're really not talking about the 742 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,760 cars anymore. We're talking about the drivers 743 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,400 and we're talking about people, people not wanting some bracket 744 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,320 racer to come bust their chops and like, hey, top drags, 745 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,400 there's bracket racing. So I don't know what to tell 746 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,520 you, boss. Get better. 747 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,680 You know, I like I said, I love top top dragster and top 748 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,080 sportsman are my favorite. They've like been to become my 749 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,720 favorite stuff to watch, But it's bracket racing and so we 750 00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:20,240 bracket racing. You know what I mean? 751 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:25,160 I just don't I I like top comp. You know me, Casey George. 752 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,800 That's why I posted that picture. 753 00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:31,440 Let's just solve the whole problem 750 top comp field 750 754 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,920 for everybody. Which may be this, that might be 755 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,640 the only legitimate answer to this whole anomaly that we're 756 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,720 talking about right now would be to, because I guarantee you 757 00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:48,920 we've got 16 top dragsters that'll run 610, but I also 758 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,240 guarantee we've got 16 top sportsman's cars that'll get 759 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:54,360 underneath 650. That's what I think. 760 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,040 There's 32 cars in top comp right there, which eliminates 761 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,200 this whole need for the conversation of why is that 610 762 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,440 car running against the car that's down 749 with a nine and 763 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,880 he going to run 750. We already know it. 764 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,760 The name itself, top sportsman. The the premise behind creating 765 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,800 that that class was for fast for cars. 766 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,160 OK, I don't want to see a 750 door car run against the 6:20 767 00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:26,880 Galletti. Bob Galletti. 768 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,600 Bob Galletti is going to run 620. 769 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,720 If he's not going to run faster than that, I don't want to see 770 00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:35,560 him going against yeah. I like, I like that match up, 771 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,000 but, and I'm not even saying that doing what I just said is 772 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,000 the best thing to go on, but I'd love to watch it. 773 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,120 You know what I mean? Like I don't know what's best 774 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,600 for the race or best for the class. 775 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:47,320 I just like top comp. So yeah, I want top comp. 776 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,800 It's the battle of the two C's either way you look at it. 777 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,520 Are we going to protect the class? 778 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,120 Are we going to protect the crowd? 779 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,480 That's one. Are we going to take the class 780 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,640 over the crowd in the stands? What do the people want to see? 781 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,320 Because it either way you look at it, we've got to create more 782 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,280 revenue through spectators across the board. 783 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,240 I've been to a divisional, I've been to multiple divisionals 784 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,280 either by way of in person or behind the camera. 785 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,160 Either way you want to look at it, well, there are nobody 786 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,840 standing in those stands and we need to fix that problem. 787 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,840 What's the fix? Well, George, you bring up a 788 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,960 good point and I think this is, this is where I think a 789 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,240 sanctioning body might get themselves into making the wrong 790 00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:32,920 decision. Let the market decide. 791 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,200 And until sportsman classes are the ones driving the gate, then 792 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,920 the market in that sportsman class is the drivers. 793 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,920 And in that case, then it then it's now to you guys, right? 794 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,920 And if you all want a six, if you all want a 650 bump spot, 795 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,720 bring me 32650 dragsters. And until you can do that, 796 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,400 they're not, then there's, there's no conversation to be 797 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:53,840 had. Yep. 798 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,520 Right. Battle well over it because 799 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,480 currently and and taking from what you're saying, if we're 800 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,200 watching a market aspect of this thing is all about the class 801 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,040 anyway. And to piggyback off of Casey, 802 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,720 we don't want to watch the class die a slow death. 803 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,800 So even if we put enough enough names in a hat and count them 804 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,600 out in ballots to figure out what to do, go go with the 805 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,200 census. And one thing that'll allow the 806 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,680 car, the the class to die a slow death more than anything is 807 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:28,200 having 17 cars in a 32 car field, because that's that's 808 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,920 embarrassing. And you know, at the end of the 809 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:36,320 day, was it the picture? Everybody go look right now. 810 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,360 It it was. We haven't had a lot of stuff 811 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,760 going on in the Facebook stuff. This week's me and George both 812 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,560 been busy. So it shouldn't be that far of a 813 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,080 scroll back. But there's a picture. 814 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,920 And I specifically said, I bet Troy Abercrombie's loving this 815 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,680 because it looks like top comp and it's an IRA race and there's 816 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,560 a blown dragster on the starting line. 817 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,160 It looks like a a fuel dragster and there's a pro mod looking 818 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,800 probe sitting right next to it. Is that not something that you 819 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,000 think is one of the coolest pictures that you could possibly 820 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,640 see? Because they're going to be guys 821 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,720 saying come on, door car and there's going to be guys saying, 822 00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:10,920 come on, dragster. And if we could both say, I 823 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,440 would say if they were going to make an index, it needs to be 824 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,880 650. If it's quarter mile, it needs 825 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,160 to be a 650 index. So you actually still have that 826 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,440 that view because you would you would want like if we're talking 827 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,080 hypothetically Speaking of top comp were to show up. 828 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,320 That's what I'm saying. Like this isn't going to happen. 829 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,680 It's just hypothetically speaking. 830 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,280 This will be awesome. Top. 831 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,880 Comp. Would that not be awesome? 832 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,760 Put everybody on a 650 quarter mile index or say A4 flat eighth 833 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,920 mile index and run what you brung and let's all race. 834 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,520 You know, it's I was talking to Nick Klein earlier today. 835 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,680 You know, and and you might know that not know that name because 836 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,640 you're from basically as far away from me as you can get in 837 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,520 the United States. But I'm sure you've probably 838 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,440 heard of the Christine Pro mod, the screw blown Plymouth. 839 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,080 So that's that's Nick's older brother, Chris that owns that. 840 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,840 Well, anyway, I was talking to Nick earlier today and I said, 841 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,760 man, do you think that it'll ever get to the point where 842 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,120 index might be the thing like it's already kind of going that 843 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,560 route. You can see the following with 844 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,120 like the little gangsters class and stuff like that. 845 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:29,560 Do you think that, I mean, even look at, look at NHRA for years 846 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,320 and years and years, all this 899901090 stuff, Look at, look 847 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,080 at how much super comp and super gas fill fields? 848 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:41,000 Like is that the answer or is just saying, hey, top sportsman, 849 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,920 top dragster, you can't feel fields. 850 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,680 So we're going to have like a A-650 index class and 851 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,560 everybody's going to run that because guess what? 852 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,320 Now our 17 car fields turned into 34. 853 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,640 Yeah, but then you've killed the class. 854 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,720 Right. I mean, you killed the. 855 00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:58,040 Class and so it's it's a choice you got to make. 856 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,560 And I think I think right now, like if you've got people 857 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,280 willing to load their stuff up in the trailer and come out and 858 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,440 enter your race and, and be in your class, like I don't care 859 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,480 what sanctioning body or what acronym you've got for your 860 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,480 name, whatever DRA you are, whatever HRA you are, you should 861 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,400 probably be pretty thankful for that, you know? 862 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,800 And again, I don't got any problem with people wanting to 863 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,920 push the class faster because that is what that's all about at 864 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,800 its core. And and I love to see faster 865 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,760 access and faster door cars, but but if you've got people coming 866 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,920 out willing to support your brand, support your product, I 867 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:41,360 just don't see the logic in in limiting it just to, I don't 868 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,400 just so a 610 guy doesn't have to run A67-O guy. 869 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,200 I just don't. That's not a compelling enough 870 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,920 argument to me. To do that, ultimately, are 871 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,440 these people complaining on Facebook or are they complaining 872 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,360 of the people? I feel like if NHRA is actually 873 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,960 talking about changing the the rules, they must be talking to 874 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,080 NHRA. But if NHRA comes and hears you 875 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:10,480 out, because that's like dude, ultimately those, the sportsman 876 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,800 classes aren't really, with the exception of the 90 classes, I 877 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,520 would say potentially the other sportsman classes really aren't 878 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,320 providing enough of a return on investment for NHRA. 879 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,240 They're kind of just helping everybody out. 880 00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:27,920 But if they come and ask you and you can't tell them why you 881 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,280 think it should be like this and convince them, that's your own 882 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,520 fault man. Don't go complain on you know I. 883 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,360 Actually think the ROI on Sportsman is actually pretty 884 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,280 high, especially super comp and super gas. 885 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,760 The reason why I say it is there's so many cars that enter 886 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,160 it that, yeah, you got to pay back. 887 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,880 But everybody knows NHRA doesn't, doesn't pay a lot back, 888 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,160 you know what I mean? There's a lot to come to go. 889 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,160 Well, they don't pay a lot back. Goldman. 890 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,640 They don't pay a lot back, but they do pay far back. 891 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,320 Through a. Lot of those class. 892 00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,800 But still those, that's where the sportsman class is pretty 893 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,960 powerful. It's not a 32 car field. 894 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,520 They're going to have 8090 a hundred super comp cars that 895 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,640 paid however much money to get through the gate. 896 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,720 The reason why we're out here in the first so everything serves 897 00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:16,280 its purpose. I well I submit I'm still stuck 898 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:22,600 Troy, on your idea of top comp being the absolute serious 899 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,040 answer to the equation and then doing something else with a 900 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,480 different class. It'd be a lot of fun. 901 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,960 And you know, Casey, I think, I think your last point is the is 902 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,920 the the message right? If you can't articulate why we 903 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,920 have to do this, right, other than that, it would be cool, 904 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,160 right, If all the cars were 650 and faster. 905 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,640 No, everybody already agrees with that, right? 906 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:46,840 Exactly. They're just saying 32 cars that 907 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,680 are 650 or better showing up. And so until there is like, 908 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,480 there's just no conversation to be had. 909 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,160 And and I love people pushing the class, whether it's top 910 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,000 dragster, whatever class. I wish some people would push 911 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,360 super gas and super comp to be, you know, maybe a tenth or two 912 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,360 quicker. Between us, between us all, do 913 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:10,080 we really think NHRA has a straw in their hat or a a man in the 914 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,200 fight about this change in the 1st place? 915 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,280 Or is this a social media driven conversation? 916 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,440 A good one, don't get me wrong. Is there some merit behind this? 917 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,160 I think I'm, I got to, I'm not going to speak on behalf of the 918 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,360 National Hot Rod Association. They they they write me a couple 919 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,280 paychecks a year and and I and. I want to know. 920 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,840 I appreciate all the that. I mean, that's what we got out 921 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,800 here. But of course this is good like 922 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,200 conversation. The fact that there's buzz 923 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,280 around this sport and around the class is good. 924 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,200 And if you don't think that that Galvin and the gang are like 925 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,440 talking about this from time to time, like that's ridiculous. 926 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,160 Of course they're talking about, of course they hear and they 927 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,000 listen and, and they look at the the landscape out there, right? 928 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,080 And, and do, and that's the one thing with the sanctioning body 929 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,760 that's so huge right across the entire country, right? 930 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,720 Think about the market, think about the difference in the cars 931 00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:09,720 you get from one region to another, creating a rule set 932 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,520 that looks the same at every divisional or every national 933 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,800 event you go to. I mean, that's an impossible 934 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,200 task, right? I mean, it's that you have all 935 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,720 these different markets, all these different demographics and 936 00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:24,680 customer bases. And, and that's why it has to be 937 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,880 the way it is, right? Because this is the National Hot 938 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:33,080 Rod Association and, and they're in every state, you know, at 939 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,880 every. So it's just that's what you got 940 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,240 to do, man. Right. 941 00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:38,960 And that's a that's a very good point. 942 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,080 And obviously everybody knew Division Three was always known 943 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,720 to be the fastest top dragster, top sportsman fields in the 944 00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:47,320 country. I want to say Indy, I don't 945 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,360 know, maybe five years ago now, four years ago, something like 946 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,600 that, Andy's bump for top dragster was like 626 or 629 947 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,480 didn't get in, you know, so it's they can do it and the cars are 948 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,200 there. Those cars didn't disappear. 949 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,800 Whoever would have purchased those cars had they been sold, 950 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,520 that's what they're planning on doing with it. 951 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,720 Otherwise they wouldn't have bought that exact car because a 952 00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:11,200 lot, especially top dragsters, they're a lot of times specially 953 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,880 tailored like 270 inch hardtail car or something like that. 954 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:15,880 You're not going to bracket race. 955 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,400 That car will be 1,000,000 lbs. But but the thing that I think a 956 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:25,040 lot of people, you know, I don't agree with everything that 957 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,480 Mario's posted up lately, but the thing that he is doing and 958 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,000 the thing you got to respect about that guy is, first of all, 959 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,720 he's willing to put his opinion out there. 960 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,000 He's got a lot of buzz going on about these fast classes. 961 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,560 He's putting his own money up that I think is more than what 962 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,080 the class actually pays. And he's going to figure out 963 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,080 whether those cars are willing to show up or not. 964 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,400 Are they still there? Are they whatever? 965 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,080 And I think a lot of people need to kind of thank him for he's, 966 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:57,120 he's by himself kind of revitalizing that class just by 967 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,800 this, just by spicing it up on the Internet, you know, And no 968 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,600 publicity is bad publicity. Or how do they say that? 969 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,040 Nope, there is no bad publicity. Something like that. 970 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:12,120 So whatever you said, yeah. Anyway, interesting topic, 971 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,560 interesting way to to kind of piggyback on what's happening 972 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,360 across social media. And honestly, Troy, you were 973 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,680 probably one of the better guests to be able to have this 974 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,880 conversation with because it was all impromptu. 975 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,480 There's not a port. We say this all the time. 976 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,640 We mean it all the time too. There's not a portion of this 977 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,920 show that is scripted. We didn't call Troy and say, 978 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,680 hey, Troy, we're going to talk about this today. 979 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,560 Troy showed up and with the knowledge he has in this sport, 980 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,000 delivered his opinion. And we want to know yours if 981 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,400 you're watching it back, if you're listening on podcast 982 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,240 form, leave us a message on going bracket racing. 983 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,320 Let's let's listen to it. Let's talk about it, you know, 984 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,960 and see if we can't make good out of every single situation 985 00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,360 that we encounter. Troy, go ahead. 986 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,160 Well, I just the same disclaimer that I gave two years ago. 987 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,520 I'm from the West Coast, but I did not speak on behalf of the 988 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,880 entire West Coast, you know, and I know what I know and I got a 989 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,320 lot to learn still. I just, I think what I think 990 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,520 and, you know, I've got my little space and that's where 991 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,720 I'm at. And you know, I don't speak for 992 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,240 everybody and, and I know everybody doesn't agree with me, 993 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:27,840 but I try to represent my people out here in the community out 994 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,960 here that has given so much to me to the best of my ability. 995 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,920 And, and it makes me very, I'm very thankful for that. 996 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,120 So. Yeah, man. 997 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,800 And at the end of the day, the, you know, in my opinion, the 998 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,360 number one problem with the entire world right now is 999 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,760 everybody thinks everybody needs to have the same opinion. 1000 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,160 That's not necessarily true. We don't come up with any new 1001 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,400 ideas when everybody agrees with each other. 1002 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,120 But before that. You guys mentioned something at 1003 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,840 the beginning of the show. I know we're getting up against 1004 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,480 it here about like, what can we do to make drag racing better? 1005 00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,840 The first thing we can do is stop talking about it, that it's 1006 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:03,800 not good, right? Drag racing might be more 1007 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,200 fragmented than it's ever been, because we have. 1008 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,320 Every class under the sun, little gangsters, baby 1009 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,200 gangsters, this and that. And the third we got the all the 1010 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,440 Dras and the AHRAS and the what, you know what I mean? 1011 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,280 We got all the different things, but you got the no prep you got, 1012 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,520 you got Rocky Mountain Race Week happening right now on Bankshift 1013 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,040 while we're doing this show. You got people out hot rodding. 1014 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,000 I think the last time I heard from Brett Kepner, we had more 1015 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,960 active race tracks, currently running events than we've ever 1016 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,480 had in the history of all time of ever. 1017 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,440 And so the first thing we can do is is stop talking about it 1018 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,800 being bad. Bring some positivity to the 1019 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,240 game. That's the whole thing behind 1020 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,040 the summer showdown even, right? It's like I saw things that I 1021 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,600 wanted that weren't there and and people saw that other people 1022 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,720 wanted them too. And I can either sit around and 1023 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,320 complain about it or I can try to do something to make it 1024 01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:58,960 better, right? And bring something to the 1025 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,400 sport. And, and like I was talking to 1026 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,840 to Parker a couple weeks ago, this is a sport where you get 1027 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,800 out of it what you put into it. And anybody who's not happy with 1028 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,280 what they're getting out of this sport probably ain't put nothing 1029 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,160 into it. And so, you know, it's just one 1030 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,120 of those things and they they come to get, they want to know 1031 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,680 what the sport can give to them, but they don't put nothing into 1032 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,680 it and give back. And so everybody I know that 1033 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,320 gives back to this sport loves it so much, right? 1034 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,120 Because when you put into it, you get something back out of it 1035 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,280 too. And, and so that's what people 1036 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:36,880 need to do. They need to quit acting like it 1037 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,880 ain't good and start giving back a little bit and see what 1038 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,520 happens. I actually feel like there's 1039 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:46,320 more more people out here who know that on the track, we were 1040 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,240 in one heck of a position. I'm reading Tim Foley's post and 1041 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,000 and kind of just piggybacking off of it a little bit, but just 1042 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:58,200 about everywhere, in most areas, there's a $20,000 race going on 1043 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:03,280 somewhere. 20 grand to win that didn't used to be that way. 1044 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:09,160 So drag racing is good Harriet. Moreover, and if I said bad 1045 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,120 wrong use of verbiage, how do we make it better? 1046 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:18,240 There isn't a bad notion to me. There's always a way to make it 1047 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,280 just a little bit better, and if we aren't striving to get that 1048 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,680 little bit better, we're missing the point of Yep. 1049 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,160 No, you got to push. You got to always be pushing for 1050 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:30,560 sure, right? You don't let you want to let 1051 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,640 stuff get stale. Don't get stagnant on us, you 1052 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,240 know what I mean? We, we got to figure it out. 1053 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,720 That's why I like this conversation about top director, 1054 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,960 because how do is that going to make it better or? 1055 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,280 Is and we we joked, we joked about it when he when he did our 1056 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,720 podcast was called, I don't know, something and bottom 1057 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,680 dragsters, right, because he was in a bottom dragster coupe was 1058 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,080 when he went out and won in Arizona. 1059 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,400 He wasn't in top, he was in a bottom dragster, but he got it 1060 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,480 done and we had a lot of fun with it. 1061 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,440 And you know, and that's the thing, like that's what's cool 1062 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,240 about this sport, right? Like anybody on any given Sunday 1063 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,600 can go out and crack them. And you put some people with the 1064 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,600 talent that some of the bracket racers in this country have into 1065 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,560 a class car and get him on the get him in the field and watch 1066 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,160 what happens. They do work so. 1067 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,840 Dude, Dadis has been running a lot of super stock stuff lately, 1068 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,120 so it's going to be interesting to see you before. 1069 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,360 I want to say before we get off here, I know you've you've had a 1070 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,560 lot of stuff going on lately. So I want to give you an 1071 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,320 opportunity to thank all the people that you need to thank 1072 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,400 that have been involved with all your Fiasco's you got going on. 1073 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,440 Man, thanks to the West Coast man, y'all have supported me and 1074 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:48,240 and helped me do and chase all the things that I'm doing and 1075 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,560 all the things I'm chasing. In particular, thanks to the 1076 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,960 people who showed up this past weekend at the Showdown. 1077 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,480 It would have been the biggest car count we ever had. 1078 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,720 It wasn't. We had more cars last year 1079 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,600 because the weather forecast was terrible. 1080 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,280 But people trusted enough in the event, they trusted enough in 1081 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,920 the brand that we're putting together, that they made the 1082 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,360 trip anyway. Marco Peravolaris loaded that 1083 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,760 thing up and drove all the way from Petaluma, CA. 1084 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,840 A man, George LeBlanc, and his crew came down from Canada. 1085 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,680 Like people trusted in us to give them the they knew we were 1086 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,240 going to work as hard as we could to give them the best 1087 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,760 thing that we possibly could. And we did. 1088 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,720 And at the end of the weekend, we got in all the races, we paid 1089 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,480 the full purse and everybody had an absolute blast. 1090 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,920 So I just appreciate all the people who put the faith in us 1091 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,760 this past weekend. And yeah, I appreciate guys like 1092 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,520 you, man, keeping the conversation going, right. 1093 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:44,120 We got a lot of podcasts out there now between y'all and Buck 1094 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,200 and and Walt and me and Park and PJ and Tyler. 1095 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,280 Like there's a lot of drag racing on the airwaves these 1096 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,000 days. And, and I think that's an 1097 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:56,480 amazing thing for this sport. Obviously appreciate the TB crew 1098 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,360 for bringing me in the loop this year. 1099 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,480 I'm having the absolute time in my life. 1100 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,960 And if you're not signed up for the TB Promotions members only 1101 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:08,280 club, you need to be race derbycity.com, get you signed 1102 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,920 up, get in the running for that Ultratech race Fab Dragster. 1103 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,240 It's Immaculate. We're having a good time and we 1104 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,440 got a couple entries left in VMP, so come see us at the 1105 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,760 Triple 50s next weekend. Triple 50s baby off the top. 1106 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,640 Hey, man, hey, keep up the good work out there to Troy. 1107 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,080 We watch it, man. And might not get enough chance 1108 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,360 to say it to you and maybe enough people don't say it in 1109 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,560 the first place, but a good job out there. 1110 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,400 Keep it up, bro. Casey, what you got in closing? 1111 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,680 I appreciate Troy, like you said, man, doing what he's 1112 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,320 doing, guys going all over the place. 1113 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,720 This guy's got a family and everything too, man. 1114 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,360 So I mean, actually right now, see, we're rolling down. 1115 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,080 It's a if you, if you saw Troy's response, I said this was going 1116 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,080 to be at 3:30 Troy Abercrombie time. 1117 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,520 And I've been getting that wrong every. 1118 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,120 I mean, I probably got that wrong on 100 episodes or 1119 01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,320 something. It was it's only when we started 1120 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,200 this episode. It's 5:30 for Casey. 1121 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,880 It's only 230 for Troy. So he's still at work right now 1122 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,120 guys. So you ought to really 1123 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,520 appreciate this guy. Give him some kudos on all this. 1124 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,400 Don't tell his boss. Don't tell his boss. 1125 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:10,840 Don't tell nobody. Boss. 1126 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:12,840 Yeah. Don't tell anybody though. 1127 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,440 You see my office brother, I am the boss. 1128 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:16,880 Boss. Yeah, there you go. 1129 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,160 Don't have to. That's the one person that 1130 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:20,800 doesn't piss me off is myself. Hey. 1131 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,760 Thanks for joining us, Peace. Out appreciate you guys. 1132 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:05,920 Casey and George.