1 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,480 Fire suit swinging on a hook by the trees. 2 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,920 Warm pit winds drifting soft in the breeze. 3 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:37,120 If you know the feel of that Tuesday night air, then you know 4 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,240 Casey and George because they're right there. 5 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,960 And everybody look at George over here. 6 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,880 He's cutting your music off early. 7 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,560 Couldn't get here on time. I don't know what he's doing, 8 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:53,640 but it's June 16th over here. 2026, episode 238 of the Golden 9 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:56,640 Bracket Racing Live podcast. We got all kinds of stuff to 10 00:02:56,640 --> 00:03:00,320 talk about tonight, but we always have to thank those 11 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,600 people who provide this for you for free every single week for 12 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,200 who knows how many years. 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Mid State Dragway. 48 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,320 If you are in the Midwest, that is a place to go. 49 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,440 Northern Illinois? What is that? 50 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,360 Jackson, Jacksonville. Havana, Yeah, yeah. 51 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,120 Outside kind of outskirts, you know? 52 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,680 Yeah, But yeah, why not? Say drag way, don't miss out. 53 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,760 Yeah, why not flash a flyer for you guys? 54 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,320 Whoever made this flyer, I'm digging the colors, I'm digging 55 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,640 the layout. Everything is pretty retro if 56 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:06,760 you ask me. 19th through the 21st this this week guys, 10K 57 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,080 Saturday and Sunday. There is a warm up race. 58 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,720 I believe it's 15132 car gamblers race or a shootout of 59 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,200 some sort to you. Drax to you guys are welcome as 60 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,760 well. Check out over 150 plus entries. 61 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,920 You guys will be running door card, door card, dragster, 62 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,080 dragster, meaning they're going to call you separately just like 63 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,800 they do in the big money races guys. 64 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,400 So if you're in the area, the weather should be pretty nice 65 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,840 there last I looked. So make sure you get your way 66 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:38,400 out to out to mid state Dragway. Show some love to the to the the 67 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,320 boys at mid state, the track crew. 68 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,840 I heard they got really good cheeseburgers out there too. 69 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:46,040 So make sure you make your way over to the to the concession 70 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,560 stands. Get you something to chomp on 71 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,360 under the same breath. And as we're in the clerical 72 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,640 portion of this show, Super bucks showdown was postponed 73 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,760 until the July 4th holiday. So it's going to be packed is 74 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,280 all I got to tell you guys July 2nd through the 4th come on out 75 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:06,120 let's have a good time racing for 20 K off the top. 76 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,720 I believe it's 2K off the bottom and my Flyers aren't up in front 77 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:11,880 of me. I know you can see them on the 78 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,120 screen, but I'm kind of just going off of memory there. 79 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,840 You can watch this race, including all the duck races and 80 00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:19,920 anything else that's going to happen at the Super Bucks 81 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,640 Showdown right here. Live ongoing bracket racing as 82 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,760 myself and GBR wifey will be out there to produce the live 83 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,520 stream. So Casey, been an eventful day 84 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,560 for me, man. Hopefully it's not as eventful 85 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,720 for you. Hey man, it it has been eventful 86 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,640 in a in a bad way, It's been eventful in a good way. 87 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,800 Towards the end of the day, I just want to give a quick shout 88 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,480 out to a guy that's not really involved with GBR right now, but 89 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,800 I just want to shout them out just for taking the time to talk 90 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,160 to me on the phone because I know what it is as far as a 91 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,720 small business is concerned, having your having your time 92 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,400 taken up by somebody. And I want to shout out irdi, 93 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,840 don't know if it's IRD performance, but anyway, it's 94 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:04,480 IRD carburetors, specifically in Florida. 95 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,240 They do a lot of blow through carburetor stuff. 96 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,520 You might have seen them on Fuel Tech's YouTube channel, the 97 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,880 silver Nova that made like 3100 horsepower with a conventional 98 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,600 head, a big black Chevy blow through carburetor deal that 99 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,880 everybody says isn't possible. Anyway, that's him man. 100 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,040 So he, he gave me a lot of information on stuff. 101 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,880 I think I'm going to become a customer in the future of his. 102 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:33,400 And like I said, man, this guy has so much information that, 103 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,320 and he's a younger guy too. He's he's not some dude that's 104 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,440 like 90 years old trying to tell you what to do. 105 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,400 He's going to be around for a very long time. 106 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,480 And it's more than willing to help people out. 107 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,560 So I just wanted to shout him out just simply for being on the 108 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,160 phone with me for like an hour and 45 minutes because I know 109 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,960 how valuable it is whenever you're, you know, you don't have 110 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,400 567 employees working for you as far as I know. 111 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,520 I mean, I can't imagine that that's the guy that's going to 112 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,800 be answering the phone if he does have that big of a 113 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,800 business. But I just wanted to really say 114 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,080 I appreciate you, John, for talking to me for that long. 115 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,240 And, and I'm very interested to see what happens in the future 116 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,600 with all that stuff. He's, he's telling me right now, 117 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,040 George, that his same blower that he made that type of power 118 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,080 with the same blower I have on the Chevelle right now. 119 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,000 Now he's got some other stuff going on. 120 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,480 He's got some custom grind cams going on in there. 121 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,360 He's got some some heads that he's changed around a lot of 122 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:36,360 stuff on in house, also in house, all all the stuff He's 123 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,640 he's kind of like us. He does everything himself. 124 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:44,640 So basically I said, man, I, I just would be happy to make like 125 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,120 one day I want to make 2500 horsepower. 126 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,240 And he's kind of sitting here kind of laughing. 127 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,480 Like I think you can make a lot more than that type of deal. 128 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,960 So. So you never know man, old GBR 129 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,800 Chevelle might be rolling out here pretty soon. 130 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,400 Yeah, man, it's always good when you make a connection with 131 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,840 someone, you know, number one, somebody new, but #2 somebody 132 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,000 who, who you can share a, a same interest with, you know, like a 133 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,480 passion, almost so. Well, dude, number one, number 134 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,600 one rule of an internal combustion engine is you got to 135 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,200 provide the fuel, atomize the fuel and make the fuel explode 136 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,040 to make the power, you know, so, but I mean, like I said, I saw 137 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,040 it on the video. That's the reason I called him. 138 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,600 Me and TJ Pruitt have been talking about this guy for a 139 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,800 long time, probably about a year now, just trying to figure out 140 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,560 what a conventional headed big block can do. 141 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:36,360 I first thing I did when I got off the phone is text the TJ and 142 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,800 said man, I think I got a lead on what we need to do. 143 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,680 So we'll see what happens. Pretty cool man, pretty cool in 144 00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:48,760 my bad everybody I had to to pivot there at the beginning of 145 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,400 the show and normally I have I have my ducks in a row. 146 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,920 Well today I really didn't and we leave to go out of town on 147 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,000 tomorrow, out of the country for about 7 days. 148 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,280 So I got a pretty big bucket list guys. 149 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:08,760 And right next to drive an NHRA Pro Stock in ANHRA event and go 150 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,400 to the finals and beat Greg Anderson. 151 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,720 Yeah, all those things on my bucket list is going scuba 152 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,920 diving. So I had to go get a physical 153 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:16,680 real fast. Guys. 154 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:19,320 Didn't know I was going to need it, but that's why I had to go 155 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,000 to the doctor so I can get a physical. 156 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,560 Not the type of physical that I saw y'all talking about with 157 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:28,320 Casey in the doggone chat, All right? 158 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,960 I didn't have to cough. I didn't have to do. 159 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,360 Nothing in turn. Right to the left, none of that 160 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,040 stuff, all right? It was just a regular do your 161 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,360 knees work, Dang it. Hey, all I'm saying is it might 162 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,200 be a little more doable to do some scuba diving versus driving 163 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,840 an HRA Pro stock car. Yeah, but you don't know it. 164 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,320 You never know who's listening. I think Erica Anderson and 165 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,280 Courtney might be listening. Hey y'all, I'll be double O 166 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,760 every hit every hit and I can shift it just. 167 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,480 One way to tell. Only with my ears I can shift 168 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,120 the pro stock right now, I guarantee. 169 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,000 It you going to do that? Would Grumpy Jenkins eat take 170 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,800 like 3 puffs off a cigar and throw it in the next year? 171 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,040 Here we go. Here we go. 172 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,240 Yeah, Yeah, let's do it. Nah, man, What we talking about 173 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,640 today? I figured there's enough going 174 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,520 around, especially with the NHRA. 175 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,600 Not anything I would consider negative. 176 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,960 I don't think so, but something that everybody's talking about 177 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,040 right now, Casey. So let's go off into that man. 178 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,960 At Pro Mod Pro Mod event we saw it, but at Bristol. 179 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,800 Oh man, well, we might as well get straight into it. 180 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,760 So Pro Max cylinder heads, you know, the cylinder heads that I 181 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,240 had on that 468 that everybody swore was a 496 back on the 182 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,520 white car, however many years ago that was. 183 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,600 I mean, I think I, I quit running that car right before my 184 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,720 boy was born. So I was roughly 4 years ago, 185 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,080 something like that. But anyway, that was the, that's 186 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,880 the cylinder head company that I always told you guys that this 187 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,600 is where the magic happens right here is in the cylinder heads. 188 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,880 Jason Collins. Everything's successful now, 189 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,160 he's got everything going and running, an HRA Pro mod now blue 190 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,200 Camaro, the one that you've probably seen plastered all over 191 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,360 the Internet lately and specifically almost hitting the 192 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,800 Christmas tree. Well, there's a lot of 193 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,040 controversy in what happened there because he did a burnout 194 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,720 and I guess steering wheel fell off, which I mean, everybody has 195 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,640 a freak story of the steering wheel falling off. 196 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,920 Luckily it was in the burnout because car like that, if that 197 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,480 happens in the middle of the track, that is not going to be 198 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,440 good. Anyway, you and I talked about 199 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:45,000 it, you know, because obviously I'm a big Travis Harvey fan. 200 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,280 Carolina kid, you know, not too far from my house, know a whole 201 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,160 lot of people, you know, literally as hometown hero as 202 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,880 you can get. I would say I'm a Jason Harris 203 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,680 fan 1st and depending on the day, I'm a Travis Harvey fan 204 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:02,760 first. But one of one of those guys is 205 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:07,680 my favorite always anyway, running Travis Harvey. 206 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:12,840 And I guess Travis Travis backs up from his burnout. 207 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,880 He's running Justin, Justin Bond's car. 208 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,360 And I guess somebody comes on the radio and says, oh, he's in 209 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,280 the tree and Travis like what should I shut it off? 210 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:29,600 Like what's what's going on? And Jason Collins backs up from 211 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,000 hitting the tree, hitting the hitting the wall that the tree 212 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:39,640 sits on at Bristol backs up and wins the round in a in a HRA pro 213 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,840 mod going five 70s at who knows it probably 260 some mile an 214 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:50,840 hour screw blown pro mod. And I mean it ends up double 215 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,200 balding them. It's I mean, obviously you just 216 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,720 hit the wall. That's I don't think that he 217 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,000 meant to do that. You know, we interviewed Jason 218 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Collins at PRIA few years ago. I mean, if you want to if you 219 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,640 want a one-on-one interview with a bunch of nobodies, you know, 220 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,200 then get on our interview with Jason Collins where you can see 221 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,680 exactly who he is. He's a nice guy. 222 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:14,800 Man. I've like that was whenever I 223 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,000 want to say pro Max was just kind of starting out and he you 224 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,200 know, and I mean nobodies is in Casey and George, not not Jason 225 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,840 Collins. I'm just saying, but TJ Pruitt 226 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,680 Dr. coverage after we interviewed him. 227 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,920 We were talking later and he goes, you know who Jason is, 228 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,320 right? And I said, I said, I mean, he 229 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,200 owns Pro Max, right? And he goes, no, dude, he has 230 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,800 like some Outlaw pro mod record over here and owns this track 231 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,240 and blah, blah, blah, and all the stuff that we didn't know 232 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,320 about. But Jason acted like just he's 233 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,360 just a normal guy, man. He's a normal guy to us. 234 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:56,920 And anyways, my point is there was a lot of controversy about 235 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,320 how could he hit the wall and race? 236 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,320 How could this happen? How could that happen? 237 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,400 So let me give you a chance to talk real quick before we really 238 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,720 get into the nitty gritty of all this, because you and I went 239 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,880 back and forth about this for a minute because like I said, you 240 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,200 were like, man, you know, Travis said this that and the other. 241 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,600 And I said, well, I'm a big Travis Harvey fan, but I don't 242 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,400 think that's against the rules technically. 243 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,320 Yeah, man, the hard part is, and this is what this is what we're 244 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:27,120 going to get into, hit. He hit something is all I got to 245 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,880 tell you. I don't know if it was the wall, 246 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,600 a barrier that was protecting the Christmas tree or what, as 247 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,560 my computer's being real goofy right now. 248 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,840 But luckily I, I know you guys can still hear me. 249 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,080 So either way, I don't, I don't know exactly what he hit. 250 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,600 I know there were a boards out in front of the Christmas tree 251 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,760 kind of showing sponsorship material. 252 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,120 Whatever the case may be, this is the type of stuff that 253 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,760 happens at drag races even with those a boards being out there 254 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,440 on the track. At any rate, the beeline that he 255 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:02,760 took for the the Christmas tree and then make contact with said 256 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,920 Christmas tree to to them back up. 257 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,760 I mean I'm watching it live. I'm like, what did I just 258 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:09,960 witness? You know what I mean? 259 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,200 I'm watching them like, well, I'm waiting on them to shut him 260 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:19,360 down honestly, because my interpretation of the rule is if 261 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,400 you make contact with the wall, I don't any barrier. 262 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,760 I don't care if it's in a burnout or a race. 263 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,080 This of course is my interpretation, which which will 264 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,320 give room for further conversation because I could be 265 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,560 completely wrong, right? But if you make contact with the 266 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,960 wall, you're automatically disqualified, right? 267 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,320 It's not about crossing the the center line. 268 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,040 I kind of already knew that rule. 269 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,560 It's more so about making contact with the barrier. 270 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,200 So I'm begging to myself, man, this this race is it? 271 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,400 It's at least over from from what? 272 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,840 From what I see and I see, I see Butch Crawley in here saying he 273 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,080 hadn't staged yet. Man, I get it. 274 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,320 But you just tore up the front of your car a little bit and 275 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,880 we're going to send you down the track. 276 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,839 So let's get off into it with my one point right there, in case 277 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:12,040 you tell me. Because when you look at the 278 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,760 front of that car and know, you know as well as I do owning the 279 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:20,079 type of car that you own, if you grab a wall or anything at 280 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:24,560 burnout speed, which isn't, which isn't fast in, in, in 281 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,400 hindsight between, right? It's fast, but it isn't fast. 282 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,600 What you're about to go, right? Yeah, I mean burnout speed still 283 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:38,000 though, I bet you it's still 50-60 mile an hour, you know, So 284 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,000 it's still, it is pretty fast really when you're talking about 285 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,400 hitting something that's concrete wall standing still, 286 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,960 but. But the damaged portion of it, 287 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,560 talk to me about that. Right, so originally when I saw 288 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:55,080 videos, I was telling you, you know, 'cause you were more of 289 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,360 the, hey, this isn't really a great idea and I was more of AI 290 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:02,040 don't think he hit the wall. And then I saw some later 291 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,040 videos. I was like, no, he hit the wall 292 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,360 'cause you told me. You said, dude, just look back 293 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:12,360 at all these replays like you can see a, a gap in the carbon 294 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:16,400 fiber front end and those ultralight carbon fiber front 295 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,320 ends. Like I was telling you, like 296 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,320 there's one on Shelton's Firebird. 297 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,280 And I can tell you right now, whenever me and Adam took that 298 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,120 thing off his car one day and we about threw it through the 299 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:29,360 canopy because it was so light, because I expected it to be like 300 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:31,480 the weight of my front end. That's fiberglass. 301 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,400 No, those things are like nothing. 302 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,760 They're like 10 or 15 lbs, you know. 303 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,960 So when you know how it is, whenever you like, you go pick 304 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,640 up a milk jug that you think is full and it's not full and you 305 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,040 not throw it through your refrigerator. 306 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:50,040 But so anyways, yeah, man, it's, it's pretty wild. 307 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:55,840 But at the end of the day, I posted a, well, I posted a post 308 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,640 to say the least, on our Facebook page, going back to 309 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,880 race Facebook page, like I tell you guys, all if you don't 310 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,160 follow it, you better follow it because that's where a lot of 311 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:09,040 this information comes from. And I posted 2 sections of the 312 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,320 NHRA rule book. 1 was talking about just your general 313 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,520 disqualifications. Another one was talking about 314 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,360 burnout procedures. And all of these procedures 315 00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:23,640 point to the fact that they pretty much apply after the car 316 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,640 is staged as far as disqualification goes. 317 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,040 Now here's what's crazy, and we'll get into the whole 318 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,200 disqualification thing in the rule book later. 319 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,080 Here's what's crazy about the whole thing. 320 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,280 I'm sure everybody watching this show understands that NHRA has a 321 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:44,280 Roku channel and the free thing that we all probably have and on 322 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,200 that Channel, you know they they play old videos like old NHRA 323 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,240 videos from way back in the day. Like I'm talking before most of 324 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,200 us were born, not you Tom Worthington, you sit down you're 325 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,280 old man. I'm just saying just kidding. 326 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,920 But anyway. But he is old. 327 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,640 But anyway the. They play stuff from Tom 328 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:10,800 Worthington's day like the 70s and 80s, and there is a video 329 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,600 and I wanted to say, I don't know if it was Don Pradom who 330 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,960 did it, but maybe Don Pradom was in the other lane. 331 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,240 But it was way back in the day and there was a Funny Car that 332 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,560 couldn't get it in reverse and the guy tries to blip throttle 333 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,600 and turn it around. He's going to drive all the way 334 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,760 back around. He was disqualified because he 335 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,240 had crossed the center line. And this was all during the 336 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,200 burnout procedure because he hadn't backed up yet in my 337 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:37,800 opinion. So in my, as far as I'm 338 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,200 concerned, the rule book, I posted the 2026 rule book and 339 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,200 highlighted the areas it is not illegal right now. 340 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,840 And either way, you can really get into the nitty gritty and 341 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,920 say Jason Collins could not have possibly crossed the center line 342 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:57,160 because there was a wall there, you know, So why was it a 343 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,080 disqualification back then for crossing the center line and now 344 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,120 it's not anyway. So it's less, it's definitely 345 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,120 something has been changed once before is the answer to that 346 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:11,040 question. We've been here before somehow, 347 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,760 right? Everybody wants to say, yeah, he 348 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,360 wasn't staged. And I, I really do get that. 349 00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:18,120 Butch. I see Butch, Butch Crawley's 350 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:20,680 over here on Facebook, man. And I get it. 351 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,600 I get it. He wasn't staged and he wasn't 352 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,800 heading down the track on a pass. 353 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,440 But if he was just so just so happened to take out the timing 354 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:33,160 blocks on a burnout pass, is he disqualified? 355 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,440 If he say it again. Though if he's on a burnout and 356 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,640 he takes out a timing block, just say it's the 60 foot. 357 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:49,280 Is he then disqualified? I don't know, I'd have to go 358 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,320 review the Going Racket Racing Facebook page because I posted 359 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,280 that up. What I'm saying is you would 360 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,760 think so, because now you have to stop the race. 361 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,160 Delayed game. You have to stop the race, you 362 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,120 have to put the things back on. You had to set those A boards 363 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:04,760 back up or move them out of the way. 364 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:08,560 While there's going to be super horsepower, cars going to doubt 365 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,640 going past them. You would think that if you hit 366 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,280 a timing block, you got to go out there, reset the timing 367 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,600 block, you got to shut cars off, all of that. 368 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,600 That's a delay. Yeah, yeah, scored Hurley's 369 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,880 saying over here in the in the YouTube jet, I'm no official, 370 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,920 but there was contact. The starter should not let him 371 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,160 run. I can see it definitely both 372 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:36,040 ways. Side note on that in the contact 373 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,800 resulted on the concrete barrier. 374 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,720 But as far as the a board thing is concerned, which there was no 375 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,080 contact with that 'cause they would have fallen over easily. 376 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,640 Those things technically shouldn't be there, you know 377 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,360 what I mean? So, so if it was contact with, 378 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,200 right. So if that was contact, then I 379 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:57,000 could see that being, you know, negligible what Ford's talking 380 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,920 about. I can I can understand. 381 00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:04,960 However, it's all being said, the rule books, the rule book, 382 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,560 man. And we're more talking, you and 383 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,880 I were talking a little bit earlier today and we kind of put 384 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,320 it in the fact of, you know, the NBA Finals were were this week, 385 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,920 you know, Spurs and Knicks, right? 386 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,160 At the end of the day, that's a professional category running 387 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,280 for a professional championship. Spurs and Knicks, obviously a 388 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:31,360 professional team. At the end of the day, the we're 389 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:34,520 not talking about your local bracket event, your local track 390 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,280 anymore making a good call or a bad call. 391 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,760 We're talking about sponsorship, fans, all this stuff. 392 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,600 And I'm sorry to say it, man, but at the end of the day, like, 393 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:51,320 let's just say I don't know, some big company like your, your 394 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,960 big company, your big box store company, they don't care about 395 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,080 safety. They care about their car being 396 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,160 in the winner's circle or their logo being on TV. 397 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,720 They don't care about safety. They want the car to go down the 398 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,400 track. If you back that car off the 399 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,560 track now you have a lot of things involved at a 400 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,920 professional level that aren't like, for example, we've all 401 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,120 been to these like college basketball game or football game 402 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:20,720 or whatever. You see those little blimps 403 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,600 flying around and stuff like remote control blimps back in 404 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,200 the day. They're probably way cooler now, 405 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,320 but back in the day, we always like SIUC. 406 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,000 They always had that little blimp flying around and that had 407 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,320 someone's logo on it. Now, if that blimp doesn't run 408 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,000 because the motor goes out or it pops or whatever the whatever 409 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,800 the case may be, if they don't have a backup, don't you think 410 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,520 that thing wants its money back? We're talking millions of 411 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,080 dollars. So I think what you're getting 412 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,920 at here is that, you know, it's kind of like you have to make a 413 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,960 call that's fair. Yeah, let's business. 414 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,200 Wise, we're not talking about safety. 415 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,240 We're talking about business. At this point, this is a 416 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,160 business. This not again, not to say that 417 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,600 this is actually the case with pro Max or with NHRA or any of 418 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,480 that, but it is a it does bring up a pretty good point You you 419 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,080 definitely and for for the for the sake of the fans, they want 420 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,040 to see side by side action too. I don't want to see anybody get 421 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,320 disqualified for something of that nature. 422 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:26,280 But what I do want to know is what is the actual ruling 423 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:31,200 because I could see this being ruled and judged differently 424 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,680 everywhere you go in the country. 425 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,120 The rule needs to be the same across the board. 426 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,720 They made the call in Bristol to allow him to run, but the next 427 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,120 person who nudges the Christmas tree on a burnout, are they 428 00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:48,760 going to tosss? All right, What the rule is so 429 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,960 Gray. What are we going to do moving 430 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:51,600 forward? Well. 431 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,120 Moving forward, what we need to do is change the rule book. 432 00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:59,680 But at the as that time stood at the time that that happened, the 433 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,000 rule book did not say he was disqualified. 434 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,320 You cannot disqualify a professional level racer for 435 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:11,760 something that is not illegal. That's like saying, if you know, 436 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,120 let's say Pro charger comes out with this monstrous Pro charger 437 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:19,400 and like it, it's let's say there's 160mm Pro charger or 438 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,800 whatever. If NHRA doesn't say you can't 439 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:27,400 run that, then you can run that. If you, if NHRA doesn't say you, 440 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,520 you can't plow the wall that the Christmas tree is on and run, 441 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,960 then you can't be disqualified for that. 442 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,720 Because I guarantee you right now, if anybody watching this 443 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,760 show, if the official says you can stage the car, you're going 444 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,080 to stage the car because you expect them to tell you yes or 445 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,720 no. Like that's, that's the first 446 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,560 thing. If, if the wheel is on the car 447 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,120 and it's not knocked off and on the side and you can steer, 448 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:56,600 we're going to race. If that guy says do this, then 449 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,200 you're going to do this. Yep. 450 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,040 But let's go back. Let's go back. 451 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,960 And this is kind of petty of me too, but I think it might have 452 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,000 been Langdon, wouldn't he? DQ D last year for a bell 453 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000 housing bolt coming loose going down the track. 454 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,280 But that was in the rule book that they had to be torqued to a 455 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,480 certain spec, I want to say. And it was stupid. 456 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,000 I do agree it was stupid and it was, it was ridiculous. 457 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,000 But at the end of the day, it was, it was in the rules. 458 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,560 And that's no matter how stupid the rule is, it's in the rules. 459 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,200 This was not in the rules. It's true. 460 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,240 It's true. And if it was there, it is 461 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,720 severely. It's super Gray. 462 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,000 It's like we're going to leave this to the starter and maybe 463 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,960 this is the answer to the equation. 464 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,400 Leave it to whoever is on the starting line or the race 465 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,960 director or whoever it is making the call down there to make the 466 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,840 decision. Let's leave it Gray. 467 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,680 Maybe that's the answer. Good response here by Eric White 468 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,040 over here. I find it funny how most of the 469 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,960 time people are mad that NHRA acts prudently like like you 470 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,360 should let him race and then when they do let him race people 471 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,440 are mad. Right. 472 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,800 And again, I don't, I don't necessarily know if it was mad. 473 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,120 I think Travis Harvey might have, might have had a little 474 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,840 confusion. There's a lot of confusion. 475 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,120 It's probably the right word. Eric. 476 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:18,680 That is a very good comment though. 477 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,080 It's like. Travis Harvey doesn't get mad. 478 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,200 He's. A Bracker racer, guys, he's a 479 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,240 Bracker. Travis Harvey can go win a pro 480 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,800 mod race and then go win a big money Bracker race the next day. 481 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:33,480 He's I I think Travis Harvey. Travis Harvey is the unknown. 482 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,760 Sean Langdon like like as far as the NHRA side. 483 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,360 Maybe in a sense of a couple years ago, like we know Travis 484 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,280 Harvey now. If you're paying attention to 485 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,040 drag racing, you know him, right? 486 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,400 Travis Harvey is probably the best all around racer that there 487 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:55,240 is period out there right now. I would say like literally if 488 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,000 you want to win a race, I don't care What Car you have. 489 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,760 If if you want to win a race, I would say Travis Harvey is your 490 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,480 best bet in whatever you have. Oh no, I'm taking Langdon in my 491 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,000 bracket car. I don't know man, I don't. 492 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,960 I don't know about that. I think Travis would be way 493 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,960 better than Langdon. Nah, yes, I'm taking Langdon 494 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,960 right now, period. Tell him Tom Worthington. 495 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,600 NHR at the. Best out here by. 496 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,960 Make it happen. I'm putting my money on linked 497 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,080 Make it happen right now. Tom Worthington will tell you 498 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,040 you just wait. He'll he'll show up in the chat. 499 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,560 He's a little old, so he might not have heard me, but I'm just 500 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,080 saying Tom Worthington tell him. Travis Harvey. 501 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,120 But no, man, I think, I think moving forward and even if we 502 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,360 don't move forward any differently, it, it's these type 503 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:48,440 of rules that that could cause a whole lot more not injury, not 504 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:54,040 danger, but negativity. I, I think any publicity is good 505 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,880 publicity. Everybody knows that, right? 506 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,600 We're talking about the NHRA. This is all good, right? 507 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:03,920 I, I find no problem with that. But what? 508 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,160 What is the actual rule? If I hit the Christmas tree or 509 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,480 the barrier to the Christmas tree while I'm doing a burnout 510 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,200 in the big money race and they stopped me, I'm getting out the 511 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,760 car and I'm DDT ING somebody because I know the rule now. 512 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,000 You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I I fully expect 513 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,160 the rule to be changed. I understand where people are 514 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,880 coming from as far as the front end having a major crack in it 515 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:34,520 because it at 270 mile an hour. Yeah. 200 already seen them lift 516 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,320 up off the dog on asphalt at quarter mile without a crack in 517 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,560 the in the doggone fiberglass you know so. 518 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,720 Man, yeah, it's in carbon ultra like carbon. 519 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,640 It'll it'll shred real quick. It it's very sturdy, but at the 520 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,760 same time, when air hits it funny, it'll just shred like 521 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,440 nothing. The it's not like fiberglass, 522 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,760 It's not as flexible. It's kind of it turns like 523 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,160 glass, so to speak, depending on the angle that you that you turn 524 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,120 it. It's it's wild, man. 525 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,520 But but yeah, Tom says, Tom says we need a match race, but he's 526 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,600 calling for Travis. Oh, yeah? 527 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,440 Well, he. Hey, Tom, I you know what? 528 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,080 You know what time it is, Tom? I'm about to turn some music on 529 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,200 for you and get everybody a good chance to listen to our 530 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,440 marketing partners. Don't go anywhere. 531 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,440 I know we're late, but we're still going to be here for a 532 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,640 little bit longer. Leave your comments, thoughts in 533 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,920 the chat. Maybe we can pick a piggyback 534 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,880 off with that a little bit because honestly, I thought we 535 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,920 had a little bit more to talk about on this topic. 536 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,000 Casey and I seem to be running out of steam. 537 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,480 Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back after a 538 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:58,880 couple messages. Here's the skinny on the Pro 539 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,440 Form Slim Fit Radiator Systems. 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Well, I always just go 571 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,160 consecutively and reuse the settings to do it. 572 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,040 So it's episode 238 guys. Thanks for being with us as 573 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,560 always and helping us find something to talk about today 574 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,199 because we we need your help today. 575 00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,080 It's a little bit different. We got some good thoughts coming 576 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,840 up though. Special shout out to our 577 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,719 marketing partners, Kim Jones Performance Crew chief Pro 578 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,400 Driven Racing, Oil, TSR Racing Products, Mid State Dragway, 579 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,480 Proform Parts, Team 14 Motorsports and Gearhead 580 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,920 Solutions. Thank you guys for being part of 581 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,040 going Bracket races community here, what we've created and 582 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,320 special shout out to all you guys out in the in the airwaves, 583 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,639 listening, driving, whatever you're doing over the road, 584 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,800 sitting on your couch watching TV, drinking a beer, eats 585 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,000 popcorn. I don't know what you're doing, 586 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,560 but thank you for doing it with us. 587 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,760 QuickTime shout out to everybody headed out to the race tracks 588 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,480 this week. Make sure you head out to mid 589 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,600 State Dragway for the 10K. I'll be watching you from the 590 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,640 beach and I won't rub it in no more, but at least I'll have 591 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,000 some drag racing to watch. And I appreciate anybody who's 592 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,320 going to be putting them on the live streams. 593 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:10,960 Casey, where are we going next? We had a one of our subscribers 594 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,560 asked this forever ago that we never really got to. 595 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,520 This would be a good time to get to it tonight. 596 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,080 I always write it down whenever you guys have your questions 597 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,480 from the pits. Can you e-mail us or hit us up 598 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,640 on the YouTube chat? I do write that stuff down guys. 599 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,600 So we get to it eventually. That's why you always got to 600 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,800 tune in to go on bracket racing live every single week at 601 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,320 typically 5:30 Eastern, 4:30 central. 602 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:41,080 And I will say this, Troy Abercrombie for sure has let me 603 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:46,600 know it is 230 in Oregon whenever we are typically live. 604 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,320 So Troy, I finally got it right after 238 episodes. 605 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,360 I finally got it right for you. So you can take it for what you 606 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,520 will. But anyway, Austin, day one of 607 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,640 our subscribers over here on the on the GPR garage side and 608 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,000 everything says if you had to put on a race, what classes 609 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,400 would you have at your own personal event? 610 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,200 Interesting question. There's so many things going on 611 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:16,120 anymore. In fact, I actually heard I saw 612 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,920 a lot of stuff on the Internet talking bad about the fact that 613 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,800 NHRA has so many classes. ITRA has so many classes. 614 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,160 I mean, we got, we got a lot to choose from, man. 615 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,720 So. So what are you going with? 616 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:35,120 Yeah, we, I feel like Casey, we didn't, we might have talked 617 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,800 about this on the airwaves maybe 100 episodes back. 618 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,000 That's just me throwing a number out there of course. 619 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:48,480 But I'm, I'm definitely on the side of a bracket race coupled 620 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:54,760 with a either a some type of a call out event from the no prep 621 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,160 kings on the on the pro mod that that run on a prep track or 622 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,840 something of that nature. That way we can integrate the 2 623 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,600 fan that, you know, their ability to bring in spectators 624 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,000 and make a show out of everything that they do. 625 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,720 Might give us the ability to get in front of people to turn them 626 00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:19,680 into bracket racing fans as well, especially from a gambling 627 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,720 aspect. You guys get to keep going. 628 00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:25,240 You don't just have to bet on no prep kings and things of that 629 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:29,400 nature. So I'm definitely on the on the 630 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,120 side of bracket race that maybe a 10K, maybe a 20K, probably 631 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:40,280 kept at 300 entries with as many no prep racers as I can get out 632 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,480 there. And we'll start the no prep show 633 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,600 at like let him qualify or get in the class at like 1 or 634 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,920 something. And by the time it gets to 635 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:54,320 elimination time around 4 or 5 for them, well, by that time we 636 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,120 should be getting down to pretty good fourth, fifth round of the 637 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,600 bracket race. That way the bracket race isn't 638 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,680 taking up all of the all of the airtime, you know what I mean? 639 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:11,800 Dude I agree man. I think ever since I started 640 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,320 running this Index stuff, and I was talking to John about this 641 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,800 earlier, what people don't understand until you really do 642 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,760 it is how cool it is to let go of the button and then all the 643 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,520 sudden the car starts moving instantly, like as soon as you 644 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,600 let go of it. And that's cool for fans too. 645 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,480 I also believe that having a bracket race in the middle of 646 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:42,560 it, an open comp type deal is, is also something that you want 647 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,840 to have there for because that's the easiest way to get involved. 648 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,640 You're having both things you get you get the fans there to 649 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,600 watch the heads up racing and then they see something that 650 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,320 they can also participate in at the same time. 651 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,240 And I think the heads up racing has become so popular on YouTube 652 00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:04,760 because 99% of the time the first one of the finish line 653 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,200 wins. What people don't understand, 654 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,160 though, is that is also the case in a bracket race, 99% of the 655 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,760 time, it's rare that the car that goes under, you know, wins, 656 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,240 wins the round. Now there's times where guys are 657 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,000 for some reason, there's a thing now where you're both holding 658 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,440 four and both of you still want to get to the finish line that 659 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,880 bad and you both go under 4. That's that's dumb. 660 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:34,600 But but at the end of the day, it allows them to be there to 661 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,160 watch one thing and learn about another thing that they 662 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,560 otherwise didn't know about. Because a lot of those heads up 663 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,680 guys are bad about talking, talking down on Braca Racing. 664 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,320 Well, all their fans automatically think, oh, Braca 665 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,040 Racing's stupid then. But maybe they go there and they 666 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,720 say, oh man, you mean I could enter that? 667 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:58,000 And potentially when, you know, three, $4000 for 50 bucks, well, 668 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,160 I'm just going to go enter my car real quick. 669 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,000 Well, you know what? And there's still that bridge 670 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,720 over troubled water, even though the water really ain't that 671 00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:06,200 troubled right now, in my opinion. 672 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,720 That's that old Disco Dean Kern, man. 673 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,760 You put him in his regular race truck, whatever it's called. 674 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,720 It might be Pink Taco or Taco Squared or it's whatever. 675 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,840 It's something. All I know is if the if the fans 676 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,840 are there to watch him do his thing and no prep kings, but 677 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,800 then notice they see him running the bracket class as well. 678 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,000 Does a service for bracket racing. 679 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,640 That's what I'm here for in the 1st place. 680 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,480 You know, a lot of these guys like I'd love to see Kyle. 681 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,640 You can drive my truck anytime he wants to. 682 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,440 Kyle Kelly come, just take a car out for a bracket race, dude, 683 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,120 because it would bridge, it would bridge the gap. 684 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,480 And that's what I'm out right in the long run. 685 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,200 Well, why do you think, why do you think I say Jason Harris and 686 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,920 Travis Harvey are my are my favorite pro mod guys? 687 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,640 It's not because they're good, because they are good. 688 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,880 They're always on good teams. They're always fast. 689 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,480 Travis Harvey dominates. Big dog. 690 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,880 Jason Harris dominates pretty much anything he enters in pro 691 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,840 mod. Those dudes are bracket racers, 692 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,480 right? That's, that's the reason I 693 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,000 that's the reason I like Sean Langdon. 694 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,080 Sean Langdon's a bracket racer. Disco game The Bracket Racer. 695 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,720 You know what I mean? All these guys will jump in a 696 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,520 bracket car and you better not take them lightly. 697 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,880 Not just 'cause they're a pro and they drive a professional 698 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,000 car, but because they are bracket racers and they will 699 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,600 knock your teeth out. Period. 700 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:25,760 Right, that's the reason I've always liked them is 'cause 701 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,440 they're one of us. They just made it. 702 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,200 You don't, you don't look down on people because they, they 703 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,360 ended up getting to where you wanted to be. 704 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:39,320 But but the fact of the matter is, is that you need to be able 705 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,360 to put both together. And that's, I feel like the 706 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,120 reason why people get a bad taste in their mouth as far as a 707 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,680 fan base goes for bracket racing is because what most fans know 708 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,000 is bracket racing is throttle stop racing in NHRA. 709 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,440 They go there to watch top fuel, funny core, pro mod, pro stock, 710 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,160 stuff like that. And all of a sudden they see 711 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,440 these cars that leave and then they go super, super slow for 712 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,040 about 100 and 5200 feet. And then all of a sudden they 713 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,720 start going fast again. And as a from a fan standpoint, 714 00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:18,480 I could see how that looks dumb like, because in fact, perfect 715 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:24,200 example, perfect example, I ran super comp one or two times, was 716 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,320 testing a gateway one time, probably like 18 or 19 years 717 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,120 old. One of our friends rode his 718 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,840 motorcycle down there with his girlfriend at the time and said, 719 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,400 dude, why do you leave the starting line and go slow? 720 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,160 And I said, because, you know, we're trying to run 890, you 721 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,640 know, it's, it's hard to do. And he goes, he goes, that's 722 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,200 stupid. Why don't you just go as fast as 723 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,040 you can? I would go as fast as I can 724 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:53,040 every time. But the the point is, is that I 725 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,240 respect the fact of how hard it is to hit your dial going 890 at 726 00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:02,000 180, five, 190 mile an hour. But if we're trying to get 727 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,040 people into the sport, that is a pure fan standpoint of a guy who 728 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,400 has no idea what's going on. There was Outlaw Pro Mod there 729 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,360 that particular night and we were testing to try to go 890 730 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,840 and he out of his own mouth said that's stupid and that's what 731 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,160 most people think. That's just a. 732 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,720 Fact. And you know what? 733 00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:25,000 There is this one class, though, the one there's one class. 734 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,640 And J PS hit the net, hit the nail right on the head. 735 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,800 And J PS on the beach right now by the way, too. 736 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,680 I'm not rubbing that in guys. J PS are. 737 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:35,920 You going to go see him? You guys going on vacation? 738 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,320 If he on the same beach as me, it's going to be a fun dog on 739 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,960 vacation is all I got to tell you. 740 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,880 But what I got what I was going to say here is there's a class 741 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,520 out there that J PS talking about that is index five 30s 742 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,720 that seems to be really really making people think twice about 743 00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,520 bracket racing. I don't care what none of y'all 744 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,080 say they're the little gangsters. 745 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:05,640 Y'all are bracket racing in an. Especially especially when 746 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,400 they're running it on a prep track, which they see. 747 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,880 They used to run it on a no prep deal, which would be a lot 748 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,440 harder. But if you're running on a prep 749 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,240 track, people can argue until they're blue in the face. 750 00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:18,960 With me, 530 is not hard to run with a power adder on it. 751 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,240 They can say 28105 all they want. 752 00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:23,360 If you're on a prep track, that's not hard. 753 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,080 As a matter of fact, Casey, we're talking about what races 754 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,680 would, what classes would we have if we were promoters like 755 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:37,120 you want bracket racing promotions, 530 Index, Mr. Mr. 756 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,200 Little Gangster's Court, Y'all in two. 757 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,720 It's like really, really close for me because I feel like I 758 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:45,040 need 3. Now that class is not just 759 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,080 because it's really popular, but people enjoy it and they're they 760 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,000 don't understand, they're watching bracket racing. 761 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,520 They don't. It's manageable. 530 is 762 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,920 manageable because you put any power adder on any small block 763 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,120 Chevy and you can go 530. I mean, it's your typical small 764 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,600 block Chevy. Your typical small block Chevy 765 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,680 in a door car is going to go, you know, you're still roofing 766 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,680 quarters, door cars going to go anywhere from six flat to 6:30 767 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,480 depending on how heavy it is and how good the heads are. 768 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,400 And you put a pro charger on any of that or a baby blower or 769 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,600 something and you turn it up and you can go five 30s on a prep 770 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,480 track. People can argue all they want 771 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,760 about small tire. If you're only going five 30's, 772 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,000 the small tire is it's naughty and like it's not like it's oh, 773 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,040 no big deal. Yes, you have to manage the 774 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,320 small tire. But if you're on a prep surface, 775 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,920 that 28105 is not that big of a deal. 776 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,280 Now on a no prep deal, totally different story. 777 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,280 I I will not argue with that. But one thing, but if we're 778 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:51,280 talking one thing you've said is that the throttle stop is what 779 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,680 kind of kills it from a fan stance. 780 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,840 That's why I like look very bottle stop, man, You know what 781 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,680 I mean? It's it's yeah, that car is way 782 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,720 out there. But you can hear that car going 783 00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:05,240 hard and then hear all the power kick into it. 784 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,200 That's right. The hardest thing. 785 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,320 From personal experience doing what I do, I primarily do the 786 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,760 450 index stuff. Now you're killing the car's 787 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,960 power band and still trying to make it consistent at the same 788 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,400 time because you're adjusting timing or shift points or what, 789 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,720 However you do it, however you choose to do it. 790 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,400 But the cool part about the 450 stuff is you really have to 791 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,920 understand the car and understand what it's doing and 792 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,480 how your power adder works and where you can do this and that 793 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,880 because say, say it was the same thing in a if. 794 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,480 Like remember I told you the other day the the last time I 795 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:49,120 ran Mad Dog, I went 439 with a four and there was a test run at 796 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,120 7:30 at night. I come back the very next 797 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,560 morning, 11:30 in the afternoon and pulled some power out of it. 798 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,040 Went 439 with a four again. Well, now I'm like, OK, so I 799 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,840 pulled some more power out, got it back to 441. 800 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,840 Pulled a whole bunch more more than I've ever had out. 801 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:11,040 Finally got it back to 443 and I'm like it's, it's not easy. 802 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,040 Whereas if I had a throttle stop now, the various reasons you 803 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,280 couldn't run the throttle stop 'cause you burn my motor up 804 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,560 doing that. But I'm just saying if that's 805 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,160 apples to apples and you're saying the throttle stop, put 806 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,560 more time in the throttle stop and it'll slow it down more. 807 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:28,640 Whereas I pulled power out and it went the exact same ET at a 808 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,160 way worse, you know, air density 'cause it didn't care. 809 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,160 It's it's a lot harder to kill it with the timing. 810 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,320 And I think that a lot of those like you couldn't, you couldn't 811 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,400 say as of 2027, there's no throttle stops in 90 race and 812 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,080 you can't do that. That's what they're based 813 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,840 around. But I think any classes going 814 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:53,240 forward, I think that it would be better for the class to say, 815 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,440 hey, number one, it forces you to build a motor within reason. 816 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,200 Because for example, I wouldn't take a screw blown pro mod and 817 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,200 go try to run 450 index like how you going to slow it down? 818 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:10,720 You can't do that, you know, so it's the same scenario in 890 819 00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:12,800 racing. You're not going to build a, you 820 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:18,160 know, all aluminum badass 665 that can go, you know, six 80s 821 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,880 and then try to go 890 with it. If you can't have a throttle 822 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,080 stops, you'd never slow it down consistently. 823 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,200 Right, interesting conversation though. 824 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,640 Good question from the pits. Hey guys, if you ever want to 825 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,120 ask a question and get in on questions from the pits, just 826 00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:37,160 just hit one of us up. Facebook pages going bracket 827 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,160 racing, YouTube is going bracket racing. 828 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,600 Our e-mail is goingbracketracing@gmail.com. 829 00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:48,120 You can find us one way or the other guys, so hit us up. 830 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,760 We love those questions from the pits. 831 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,880 They kind of keep us moving along pretty good there, but 832 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,080 getting pretty winded. Casey, what you got in clothes? 833 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:04,920 Tom, good point over here. Fixed throttle stop as in as in 834 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,360 throttle adjustment screw on either the carburetor or the 835 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,800 pedal. I think that would be better 836 00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:14,120 just limiting the the amount the blades would open. 837 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,800 And at the same time again it goes back to the fact that a car 838 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,240 like that will probably never be as consistent as a car with 839 00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:21,600 throttle wide open. So it forces you to be able to 840 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:27,240 it, it allows you the index whenever there's no electronic 841 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:33,040 electronic throttle stop allowed is more easily limiting the 842 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,120 amount of money you can spend in the class. 843 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,960 Because whenever the throttle has to be wide open all the 844 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:44,560 time, you you can't make 15 and 100 horsepower whenever the 845 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,120 class only requires 850, right? You know, because you'll always 846 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,880 outrun it. You'll never slow it down, 847 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,360 especially quarter mile racing. Right, right. 848 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,120 I heard that man. So but now I got somebody at my 849 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,440 door right now, I didn't know who it was for like you might 850 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,400 have just walked in my garage. So I might have to. 851 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,560 Yeah, it's Texas out there. Hey, it's Texas. 852 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,640 How? Old MO was in there. 853 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:10,960 You never know what's happening right now. 854 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,000 I'm so defensive of MO. It's unbelievable. 855 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,240 Casey. You have to be that way 856 00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:17,520 sometimes, man, It's too hard to get this type of stuff. 857 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,240 Just let somebody do what they want. 858 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,680 Anyway, Anyway, Casey, man, in closing, I don't have much. 859 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,640 We won't be here next week, man. Of course I I've already told 860 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,000 you where I'll be guys and I'll be thinking about you. 861 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,800 Send me a message. I'll be in the chat bleachers 862 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,200 somewhere and come chat, chat with you all over there, you 863 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,560 know, but what you got in closing, Casey. 864 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,800 George going to be out there finding Nemo under the sea. 865 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,920 If he doesn't drown, we'll be back the week after next. 866 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,360 Ain't drowning dogs on it. See y'all the week after next. 867 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,120 Have a good win. Be safe if you're going to the 868 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,360 track half one back.