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I've never waited more than 48 39 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,200 hours to get parts from Trevor. He'll ship them straight to the 40 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,760 racetrack for you. If you're going out there to Mid 41 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,400 State Dragway before the OG million, send some stuff up 42 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,280 there to the tower, get a put in the race car, get ready, get 43 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:39,120 your stuff in order to go racing. 44 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,160 And of course, as I just said, Mid State Dragway, man, I feel 45 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,720 like they're having a staple event before the OG million 46 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,120 every single year. Now it's going to be, I want to 47 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,040 say it's like $20,000 to win, isn't it? 48 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,720 Yeah man, yes the on Saturday, definitely 20 grand to win 49 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,800 Saturday. I'm going to get that flyer out. 50 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,160 I'm a little, you know a little discombobulated right now. 51 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,840 Let me get my let me get my act together Casey, you came to me 52 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:03,560 kind of fast man. You didn't even say George, 53 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:04,960 what's up dogs? See there? 54 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,520 You're always throwing me off. But hey, check this flyer out. 55 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:12,240 Everybody mid state doing their thing as always and hopefully 56 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,440 for the foreseeable, every time we get to thinking about OG 57 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,480 million, we think about mid states twin 10s first. 58 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,760 Let's just let's just add a little another 10 to that 10. 59 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,840 No, on September the 18th through the 20th, the Saturday 60 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:32,360 race is a $20,000 to win event. I do not believe the entry fee 61 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,640 moves. Get in where you fit in guys. 62 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,760 We're going to start it off on Friday. 32 car gamblers race 63 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,400 come on out Saturday, run for $20,000. 64 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,480 Get you some round money, have you some fun, get warmed up. 65 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,680 Do it first at Havana, Havana at Mid State Dragway and stay for 66 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,760 Sunday as well because you can't go drag racing Sunday out at the 67 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,920 OG yet anyway. So let's run for 10 grand on set 68 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,760 a Sunday as well. All right everybody get in where 69 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,480 you fit in. Bring your junior dragsters out. 70 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,400 They can race to more cars to Merrierwood. 71 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,400 Door car, door car dragster dragster. 72 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,280 I believe they have a new sponsor if I'm not wrong. 73 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:15,360 Rev mine might have jumped on board with them to to bring this 74 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,280 race to light. So special shout out to anybody 75 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:21,920 who's helping out them boys over there in the mid State dragway. 76 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,000 That's how we like to get it done over here on going bracket 77 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,640 racing. Casey, we're going to have fun 78 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,400 today, man. I think we got a really good 79 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,680 topic for everybody. I see O Jacob McNeil in the chat 80 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,040 man, I saw he blow up the blew up the the outlaw engine at at 81 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,920 the race in XRP this past weekend. 82 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,600 Man. Hope you get that fixed as fast 83 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,720 as possible and holler at me when you're ready to get back up 84 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,440 here on the show. Casey, we got some fun to talk 85 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,040 about today man. You got anything you want to 86 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,640 talk about before we get into the topic? 87 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,120 I guess the one thing I want to talk about is give a shout out, 88 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,040 told Steve Riggins, Man, for going through them over there. 89 00:06:57,280 --> 00:06:59,840 Didn't quite get it done in the finals but almost got it done 90 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:02,480 man. I want to say that I saw someone 91 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,080 post that Riggins average reaction time was like double O 92 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,920 8 all the way through the finals or something crazy and I 93 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,640 watched. I mean it was real quick. 94 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,240 Washed out a corner of my eye today while I was getting ready 95 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,320 for work and I saw it looked like he was pretty far out in 96 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,480 front of those dragsters. Catch you pretty quick man. 97 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,960 And I don't know if somebody got on the brakes down there or 98 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,280 whatever the case may be, but either way, man, Riggins is one 99 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,880 of the biggest supporters. GBR never actually met the guy 100 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,920 in person, but always shouting us out anytime there's a live 101 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,560 feed and always talking good about us and everything. 102 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,320 There are very few people in this world that you never hear a 103 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,000 bad thing about. And he's one of those people and 104 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,880 it's a guy that always gives everything to the sport and it's 105 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,840 it's cool to see him getting back out. 106 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,160 So a little bit of what he's put into it, man, on the big stage. 107 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,200 So very cool to see all Steve Riggins getting in the finals 108 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,720 out there at Norwalk. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. 109 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,040 I know I've watched a lot of drag racing and I know I've seen 110 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,760 it happen maybe once or twice before where the announcer makes 111 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,200 his way down into the the later rounds of the race. 112 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,000 But it was pretty interesting to watch the mic kind of trade 113 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,200 hands there. You know what I mean? 114 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,200 It's instead of Riggins getting doing the interviewing, somebody 115 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,680 was probably interviewing Riggins. 116 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,480 That's pretty, pretty neat guys. So shout out to everybody who 117 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,280 supported that race out there at the race, the flings and and 118 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,560 heck everywhere else for that matter is we had a lot of drag 119 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,640 racing going on KC this past weekend. 120 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,240 Yeah, I hope. All I got to say is I hope 121 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,679 Riggins got paid enough money. He could have taken old Ronnie 122 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,240 Court out to get him a steak or something in the middle of the 123 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,640 night because, man, that dude had to do a lot more work now 124 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,000 that Riggins was down there racing. 125 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,200 Hey. You got a good partner in Ronnie 126 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,360 Court though, that old guy get to work with him quite a bit out 127 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,800 here at Pennington Racing and he can call some laps so I can tell 128 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,080 you that much. But you got you got a good 129 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,320 partner in that, you know, of course, his his usual partner 130 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,080 old Oh, oh, oh, JJ, you know, he can do his thing too. 131 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,160 So I mean, either way you look at it, he's he's generally going 132 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,680 to be on an All Star lineup, you know? 133 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:15,840 Yeah, I don't know, man. Over here in the over here in 134 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,640 the YouTube side of things, looking over here in the chat. 135 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,400 Tom, yeah, I don't know what the deal is on all that stuff. 136 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,240 Said he had to refresh again to get the screen unlocked. 137 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,040 I just, I literally just did that also because I obviously 138 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,960 have to have a one on so that way I can see what you guys are 139 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,240 saying over here and yeah, man, super weird. 140 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,680 I don't I don't know what that deal is. 141 00:09:36,680 --> 00:09:38,280 You know how they're always changing stuff? 142 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:40,600 Yeah, I'll keep my eyes on it. We're not doing anything 143 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,320 different over here, which is kind of odd to me for for the 144 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,160 show to go live 22 minutes. We don't go live at 5:00 ever. 145 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,680 So they're not that's not making much sense to me, but I'll keep 146 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:54,480 my eyes on it. Thanks for keeping it, bringing 147 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,600 it up. But Casey, man, let's let's get 148 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,840 moving, dude. And you know, we got we got to 149 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,040 kind of frame this conversation up and it it came from us, from 150 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,960 a place we all know and we all love as a question from the 151 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,960 pits. If you don't know what question 152 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,240 from the pits is, guys, let me school you real quick. 153 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:17,280 All you got to do is send a e-mail, a Facebook message, a 154 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,760 YouTube chat, whatever you got to do to get a hold of me or 155 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Casey with your question or comment or concern. 156 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,160 goingbracketracing@gmail.com. Going bracket racing on 157 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,320 Facebook, going bracket racing on TikTok, going bracket racing 158 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,920 on YouTube, wherever you go to find your social media. 159 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,880 Hit us up on one of those platforms and you will be able 160 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,320 to kind of give us what you feel or what question you have. 161 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:48,800 We will talk about that right here on this live platform as we 162 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:54,080 always do GBR Media, GBR community, we are going to 163 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,080 remain anonymous with this one if you request it. 164 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,320 So this will be an anonymous questioning from the pits. 165 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,480 So we get quite a few messages this week. 166 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,960 I want to say there's three or four of them in that inbox. 167 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,440 That's that's quite a few to us as a the same question come over 168 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:17,880 and over again, but get word of a what I would call my worst 169 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,280 nightmare, Casey. I'm just going to go there right 170 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,000 off the Batman, because I feel like it's a good way to frame 171 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,200 this particular question and my worst nightmare. 172 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,160 Guys, in case you don't know, when I'm sleeping, I'm dreaming 173 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,400 good and man, I'm in a row. I'm going to roll. 174 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,440 I'm double O every round, man. I get down to the semi finals 175 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,200 and and and and I just don't show up to the semi final. 176 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:43,000 I missed it. They ran without me. 177 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,880 I didn't get to race the semi final. 178 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,760 And then all of a sudden, you know what's going to happen next 179 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,280 in a dream, you're going to wake up. 180 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,640 That's that's the worst case scenario in a dream, right? 181 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,000 So I'll wake up because it's just a dream. 182 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,160 Well, this past weekend, the dream became reality, all right, 183 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,320 where someone missed a round of racing. 184 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,080 It just so happened to be the third round of racing, 185 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,320 unbeknownst to this driver, right? 186 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,560 He did not realize he or she did not realize that they had missed 187 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,640 said round showed up the race fourth round. 188 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,800 Well, that person got the win turned on the wind light. 189 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,960 I believe his opponent may have been red or something of that, 190 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,400 that nature on the fourth round. He's he's going on to the fifth 191 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,720 got that win. I don't know if he was double O 192 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,200 take double O and and put somebody out the back door. 193 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,400 Whatever the heck happened, he got the wind. 194 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:35,640 But this is where things get interesting because in that 195 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,640 fifth round, the driver that lost to the person who missed 196 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,640 the third round protested the race, understanding that this 197 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,840 particular person, he or she had missed third round. 198 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,280 He was then awarded back into the race to continue drag 199 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,640 racing. This is, this has got to be #1 200 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,640 right off the bat, this has got to be a very hard call. 201 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,160 That's why we named this particular podcast, Laying down 202 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,560 a Law. Casey take off. 203 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,040 Let's set precedents. Let's figure out a way to make 204 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:16,280 this particular situation easier to trans to, to, to navigate 205 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,840 moving forward. Well, first of all, I wouldn't 206 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,960 want to be the person making the call in any of these situations, 207 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,960 which is the case most of the time. 208 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,480 You know, I think people can see it from both sides of the of the 209 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,280 coin where they can say they can, they can say, oh, well, you 210 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,520 know, the dude was out. So anybody who he put out was 211 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:47,040 put out falsely, you know, whatever you want to say because 212 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,680 how can you really be beat by somebody who's not actually in 213 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:56,360 the event anymore? That being said, you either win 214 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,160 or you lose every single time. That's the thing with Drag Race 215 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,360 and it's 5050 shot. Everybody's got the same 216 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,240 opportunity to win every single round. 217 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:12,640 The one thing I would say is one of the people said, well, so and 218 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,720 so was red or something like that. 219 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,960 So he lost anyway. So he's out. 220 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,200 And the first thing that came to my mind was, well, that's true. 221 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:28,960 But since this particular event was a foot break event, there's 222 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,120 a big difference leaving on a clean tree and foot break or 223 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,520 leaving on, you know, being second. 224 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,400 Like for example, if the worst case scenario is usually 225 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,680 whenever you're like half a bulb off of somebody. 226 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:46,240 So like if if you're dialed 625 and the other guys dialed 6 flat 227 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,520 or something like that, where it's like blink, blink, blink, 228 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:53,440 blink, blink, blink, blink, it's a lot harder being being anybody 229 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,240 on that particular type of tree. So I was thinking I was like, 230 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,720 well, maybe like, what if in that scenario, what if, what if 231 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,040 this guy's dialed and I'm just picking these off time my head. 232 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,840 I don't even I don't even know where this applied to, to be 233 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,680 perfectly transparent. I'm just talking off the top of 234 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,840 my head right now. What if a guy's dialed 6 flat? 235 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,920 Like if if I'm dialed 6 flat and you're dialed 650, it's harder 236 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,760 for me being a foot breaker to go off the bottom being the 237 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,800 faster car in that scenario. Now if the other scenario came 238 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,120 around and like what if the guy who was supposedly out, what if 239 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:35,400 the guy behind him was dialed like 750 or 550 and it's 240 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,200 significantly different the way the tree looks where it's not so 241 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,040 close anymore. And now all of a sudden I'm 242 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,280 leaving off a clean tree because I'm a 650 car or say I'm dialed 243 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,200 7 flat. My opponents dialed 5 flat to 244 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,120 just get all it's clean tree for everybody type deal now. 245 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,840 So that would just be the only thing I would think of. 246 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,920 And I don't, I don't know how it played out. 247 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,440 I don't know who's who in this situation. 248 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,080 This is literally just something that is coming to me right now 249 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,360 because realistically you were chat. 250 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:07,520 Too. You know what I mean? 251 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,320 You're the one looking at the the inbox and everything. 252 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,080 In fact, I didn't even know about this until what, three 253 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,200 hours ago? Something. 254 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,640 Like something like that. It caught wind of it, but I'm 255 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,320 going to take Jenny Palm's comment here because I think 256 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,600 it's it's a good one, right? And and Jenny is saying if you 257 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,120 are out, be honest. How dishonest integrity is the 258 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,320 hugest part of racing. And I'm, I'm going to caveat 259 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,720 what I'm going to say next, Jenny. 260 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,040 I don't think the gentleman knew he missed third round. 261 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,280 I genuinely believe that he thought he was going up for 262 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,280 third round, even though it was the fourth round. 263 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,200 At least this is my inkling in reading what I've read in the 264 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,280 inbox of going bracket racing. And I also want to dispel the 265 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,120 notion that it was ever protested. 266 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,560 There was no protest. I have been informed of that as 267 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,240 well. So, but good, good thought 268 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,640 process, Janie. We all kind of keeping it a take 269 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,160 me at my word or whatever you want to call it type of spectrum 270 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,599 here. Of course, at least we should 271 00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:10,480 be. You know what? 272 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:14,440 This is a very rare instance for me, Casey. 273 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,160 I don't know how many times you've ever heard of something 274 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,960 like this. I mean, I've heard of it 275 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,200 happening before, but I've never, I've never seen it. 276 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,560 I mean, and to be fair, I haven't seen this one either. 277 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:30,920 The like, I've heard of this happening a lot of times over 278 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,840 the years. I mean, I've been bracket 279 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:39,120 raising for myself for 30 years. So there's always people talking 280 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:42,000 about this stuff under their breath and whatnot of oh, you 281 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,880 know, so and so used to go up and they may have, they may have 282 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,280 not won the round or whatever and they're going up over here. 283 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,080 The thing I wonder is how do you even how do you even tell like 284 00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:54,800 if this would have been third round like the guy missed third 285 00:17:54,800 --> 00:18:00,200 round or whatever and say there's even 20 cars left in 286 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,200 when you get when did this happen? 287 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,520 Like fifth round or something 5th. 288 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,160 Round is. When it got caught, Yep. 289 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,760 So that means there was so there was 20 cars in fifth round, say, 290 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,560 and then that would mean there'd be yeah. 291 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,560 Then there would be, say, 40 cars in fourth round, which 292 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,400 means there'll be 80 cars in third round. 293 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,240 The round that he missed. I don't even like, unless this 294 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,200 is some like crazy car like you know how there's that, What's 295 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,840 that? What's that like Porsche or 296 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,840 whatever that runs super classes or whatever, It runs like super 297 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,480 street or something like I can see that car being noticed that 298 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,360 it didn't go through a round. But if this is just your 299 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:41,600 average, you know, 72 Nova or 69 Camaro or whatever, how do you 300 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,720 even how did that even get caught? 301 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,000 That's what I wonder. It's a great question, you know, 302 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,720 and, and that information is not known, right. 303 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:51,920 But the great part about this whole thing is now we can talk 304 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,920 about it to figure out an answer on how to make a ruling moving 305 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,720 forward. I'm going to keep going because 306 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,800 Austin Cooler is basically lay up alluding to the fact that 307 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,880 that's why we have car numbers. And if I'm not wrong, I've never 308 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,760 done this. I've never promoted, I've never 309 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,920 I've never been in the computer, the tower to be able to to say 310 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,880 to say what's right and what's wrong here. 311 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:19,240 So guys, keep me honest. Does the system actually track 312 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:24,480 that all right, or is that a manual track that happens with 313 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,440 the promoters doing it? I don't know the answer to that, 314 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,560 right, Casey? Maybe you do guys in the chat, 315 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,720 maybe you guys know 26 cars in round 5 is what I've just 316 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,640 learned. So there were 26 cars remaining 317 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,160 in round 5, just so you know. Back to my question, do you know 318 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,280 the answer? How is that tracked? 319 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,160 Does the computer do it for us? Well, that means there'd be over 320 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,040 100 and in third round, the round that was missed. 321 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,480 So I mean, obviously the computer would be the thing to 322 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,120 catch somebody, I guess, because if it's knocking people out or 323 00:19:56,120 --> 00:20:00,320 whatever, or I guess overall car count, like if say you're 324 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,680 supposed to have 100 cars show up and only 99 show up, then you 325 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,760 would know something's missing. I don't know, man. 326 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:12,200 Like that's a, that's a crazy scenario to be in and it kind of 327 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,440 makes me think about the fact of. 328 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,400 Not necessarily what's the right call? 329 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,440 What's the wrong call? There are so many big money 330 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,080 races going on right now that there's so much money on the 331 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,960 line. Shouldn't we just at a certain 332 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:33,280 point have a basic rule book like to to use at these races? 333 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:36,040 Like because we've had this, you know, we've been doing this show 334 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,080 going on, what is it six seasons now, six years. 335 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,080 And we've had this happens like once a year. 336 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,600 It's not a common thing and it's an accident. 337 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,680 I don't think anybody meant to do this. 338 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,800 And at a certain point, promoters need to make a call. 339 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,360 And I also feel like a lot of the major promoters anymore are 340 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:57,200 all really good friends with one another. 341 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,040 So is it time that these promoters all need to get 342 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,520 together over winter and be like, hey man, we need to come 343 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,960 up with a very basic rule book for big money bracket racing 344 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:13,840 that says, you know, like, for example, obviously, you know, 345 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:19,520 the OG million is the king of all, you know, big money bracket 346 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,720 racing period. It's been around the longest is 347 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,160 what it is. I guess technically that 348 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,040 Michigan race is the original big money race, couple years 349 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,360 more whatever. So they can be there too. 350 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:33,600 But anyway, so it's like shooting full promotions and 351 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:39,440 Kohlberg promotions and Great American great, great and Spring 352 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,400 Fling and like TTB, all of them. Yeah, all of them. 353 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,720 The main, the main like 567 promoters. 354 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,600 Should should they just get together now at this point over 355 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,240 winter and be like, hey guys, let's just spend one weekend and 356 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,840 let's make a basic rule book. Like we don't need to have 357 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,800 anything crazy like NHRA does or whatever, but we need to have a 358 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,800 basic rule book of if X happens, Y happens. 359 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,160 Because all these guys have their own scenarios now of these 360 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,480 little things that have happened. 361 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:15,120 And all we need is like literally a 15 or 20 rules, like 362 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:18,400 just basic stuff like this is what happens if you miss your 363 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,200 round. This is how we handle it with 364 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,160 the people who have lost if we catch this two rounds later. 365 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,880 Like it would make everybody's life easier in these scenarios 366 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,560 if they just had a hard copy and said, look, guys, this is what 367 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,720 we're going by. It says it right here. 368 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,640 I'm sorry if you don't like it, this is what it is. 369 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,200 You have the opportunity to own this book and know what it looks 370 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,440 like too. Yeah, buddy. 371 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,960 But that's what I like Casey. That's what that's that's the 372 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,200 goal of this conversation right here is we're basically having 373 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,920 the ability and with a legalistic term to set a 374 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,080 precedent. We can go back to this 375 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,760 particular instance and say this is how it was handled here. 376 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,520 With your thought process, Casey and in mind, my first guess 377 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,880 would be the best place to have this type of a a meeting of the 378 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,200 minds. PRI 2026. 379 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,840 Invite me. I want to be a family on the 380 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,600 wall for this particular conversation because I feel like 381 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:14,040 it would be great to sit in a room with all of you amazing 382 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,000 folks who allow us to go drag racing and put your blood, sweat 383 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,560 and tears into the hardest events to probably promote. 384 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,600 By the way, it is manually tracked in order to know what 385 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,760 cars have gone down the track it I've got confirmation it's 386 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,640 manual. It's not Put it in the computer 387 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,280 and the computer figures it out for you. 388 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:37,960 This is a manual tracking there for the human element, guys. 389 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,520 All right, I know we live in the age of AI where everything 390 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,440 should be just like, hey, this is perfect, this is better. 391 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,440 Even AI is wrong and requires the human element, but the human 392 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,920 element gets to enter itself into this situation and there's 393 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,040 going to be a mistake here or there. 394 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:59,120 I could see myself forgetting to put a line through 3247. 395 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:01,160 That's my car number. I didn't do it on purpose, all 396 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,160 right, by the way, it was an accident, right? 397 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,360 But I can see that happening. Forgetting to put a line through 398 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:10,280 one or something like that. And, and, and as as I said about 399 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,320 the driver who missed the round, that is my nightmare. 400 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,320 I can see that. I can see it happening. 401 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,520 All right. I've seen another good, good 402 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,840 comment in here. I feel like it was Austin 403 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,880 Thompson said it's a lot easier to catch something like this 404 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,680 once the car count is lower and the long and the log of car 405 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,680 numbers still in the race is shorter. 406 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,160 So people a lot harder to catch third compared to 5th. 407 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,040 Basically, there's a lot of cars left in the third round. 408 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,440 Man, this is the human element. But there I got another thing I 409 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,560 want to say. I don't know if I want to say it 410 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,440 now or get into it before we when we come out of commercial 411 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,600 break, but maybe we can just build on it. 412 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,960 Maybe we'll get some comments. But the way I see it and what 413 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,840 what would George do if he was the promoter is what I'm going 414 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,680 to say next, right. Here's what I would do. 415 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,640 Third round, you missed the round, that's tough. 416 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,480 You kept running. Fourth round, you went red, you 417 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,400 out. Fifth round, he busted Joe 418 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,080 behind you out. But we caught it, man. 419 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,800 I know you. You beat everybody all the way 420 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,520 up to fifth round, but you forgot to run third round you 421 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,120 out too. All three of y'all out. 422 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:19,120 I'm sorry. I can't do anything different 423 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:21,520 because I can't hit the rewind button. 424 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,280 All I can do is decision at that point. 425 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,280 That's well, that's I would do, right? 426 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,280 Yeah. That's that's the hardest part 427 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,040 about the whole deal too, is it's like, you know, on one 428 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,640 hand, for example, like I was talking about earlier in the 429 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,920 show, Red light, man, it could have been all, all different 430 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,360 scenarios, but it's like, OK, well, we're in sixth round now 431 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,560 or fifth round, whatever it is. So who's to say you even belong 432 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,200 there too, because you didn't beat that guy in fourth round 433 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:53,800 regardless of who it was and you didn't know anything about it 434 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,680 either. I don't know, man. 435 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,760 That's, that's an extremely tough call. 436 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,960 And I don't know if there is any correct call per SE. 437 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,440 But again, that's why I'm saying do we need to have a very basic 438 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,840 rule book for these types of scenarios? 439 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,400 Because it's literally a did you mess around? 440 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,720 OK, what happens? Obviously that person's out. 441 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,160 No one's going to argue with that, but I don't care if you 442 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,640 win the race, you've messed around, you're out, everybody's 443 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,400 going to agree with that. What happens when the guy is 444 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,680 found to have missed the round? Whenever that round, maybe 445 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,560 whether it be that round, whether it be 3 rounds from 446 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,640 then, whether he wins the whole race, what happens? 447 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,480 Because at the end of the day, there were two guys who lost to 448 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:45,160 him on the way supposedly. So they can't just be like do 449 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,120 that may because there's two, maybe they run each other to see 450 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,320 who gets put back in. I don't know this, but it's in 451 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,880 at the same time, that's too much crap going on. 452 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,240 That's too much going on. And everybody needs to remember 453 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,920 too. If you think the call's right, 454 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,320 the call's wrong. Think about the promoters first 455 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,200 of all, knowing everybody's going to be pissed at them no 456 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,960 matter what kind of decision they make. 457 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,840 And they're trying to make this call. 458 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,320 Oh, and by the way, they're getting ready to write hundreds 459 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,240 of thousands of dollars of checks and they're going to pay 460 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,920 all these employees and they're doing all this stuff and they're 461 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,400 supposed to make this call in the middle of the event right 462 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,800 when everybody's getting money. This is crazy. 463 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,880 So it's so you definitely can't blame the promoters in this 464 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,480 scenario. It's tough because. 465 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,000 There's no rule here. There's at least there's nothing 466 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,240 that I know of. Anybody can keep me honest. 467 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,920 Any if if otherwise, it's only ever going to be an opinion of 468 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,120 what you feel like should be done. 469 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,480 And that's where I think that a master. 470 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,360 I'm with you, Casey. And heck, I would even help 471 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:47,440 create the son of a gun, put it out there as the going bracket 472 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,440 racing master master book or something. 473 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,080 I don't know. And as long as people would 474 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:57,160 actually use it out, we can all as a community come together and 475 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:02,120 have however many live streams we need to to create rules for 476 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:07,920 this book that can be in use. And, and again, it doesn't need 477 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,880 to be the the level of rules like NHRA has and all that. 478 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,960 That's not what bracket racing is, you know It is what? 479 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,640 Scenario book if. Then yeah, I can tell you right 480 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,080 now that if a car sits in a garage for two years, those 481 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,640 seatbelts didn't go bad. They didn't go bad sitting on 482 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,680 Simpson shelf if they went bad as soon as they put the tag on 483 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,840 just for any company, not just Simpson. 484 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,280 But anyway. So we don't need to go to that 485 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,560 extent, but we do need to have some very, very basic rules. 486 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,120 And I'm telling you, this thing can literally be an 8 1/2 by 11 487 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,920 sheet of paper. And there are so many of these 488 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,600 races now, I think that basic things just need to be written 489 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,920 down. Like maybe let's start with 2027 490 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,880 having a basic, I'm telling you, it needs to be like 1020 things 491 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,040 at the Max, like just very basic things. 492 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,160 And you know what rule #1 needs to be rule #1 needs to be all 493 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,840 racers need to come up to the staging lanes in a reasonable 494 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,120 amount of time after the announcer makes the very first 495 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,960 call saying, hey, come to the staging lanes. 496 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:13,080 And if you're not here by call 3, like make them 151015 minutes 497 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,200 apart depending on the rounds. And if you're not here by by 498 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,560 three, once we make the third call, there's a cone going out 499 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,040 and it's on you dude. That's number one rule got. 500 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,280 Got new T for you man Hold on. We we going to we going to do 501 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,360 this real quick. 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But whatever event you 537 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,160 participate in, welcome into the show. 538 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,840 Can't can't do this without our our lovely marketing partners, 539 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,960 Ken Jones Performance TSR racing products pro form parts driven 540 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,080 racing oil team 14 Motorsports Gearhead solutions crew chief 541 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,240 pro mid state drag way. Those guys over at your ad here, 542 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,200 that's Casey and George too, too. 543 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,720 Handsome young striking young fellas, if I might say so 544 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,480 myself. So young anymore, though. 545 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,360 Getting a little older every day, you know, got both. 546 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,160 Got kids getting a little Gray in the beard now, you know, but. 547 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,760 Too much yelling. Stop interrupting me man, go 548 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,640 make me lose my but. But hey, if you would like to 549 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,880 get your products, services, offers, offerings out to the 550 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,120 best bracket racing crowd out there, Going Bracket racing 551 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,440 community, look no further than George and Casey. 552 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,440 You can hit us up goingbracketracing@gmail.com on 553 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,280 the Facebook page Going Bracket racing. 554 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,640 It's going bracket racing on all the platforms so you you can 555 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,280 find us anywhere you'd like to find us. 556 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,440 Casey. Let's get back into it man, 557 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,320 because during the commercial break, I did learn something new 558 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,280 about this scenario. Said driver was double entered, 559 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,600 which makes things a lot tougher. 560 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,280 You know what I mean? It kind of gives us a little bit 561 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,560 more of an understanding of how you could to JD Palms 562 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,120 questioning and thought process how you could actually miss a 563 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,480 round of racing being double entered. 564 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,120 There's a lot going on at all times and we always say double, 565 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,680 double entry ain't for the faint of heart. 566 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,400 You better have your head on straight. 567 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,920 Make sure you put that line through the right entry. 568 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,000 You know what I'm saying? What happens if they don't put 569 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,160 the line through the right entry? 570 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,520 Or maybe that's another rule we need to put in the black book. 571 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,320 It's tough, man. I mean, remember back in the 572 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,040 megabucks days, whenever we were kids, I mean, there would be 573 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,440 times I'd be going down the track and then I'd be coming 574 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,000 back. You say they already called you 575 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,080 back up there in the other car. And we'd have people driving my 576 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,560 other car up to the lanes for me and I'd just get off, get on a 577 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,240 scooter or whatever and go up there. 578 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,640 You know, it's, it's tough, man. Whenever, when you get to some 579 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,200 of these big money races, you know, back in the day we didn't 580 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,400 have like the transmission coolers like they have now and 581 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,720 we didn't run 2 batteries in cars and cars need to charge and 582 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,280 stuff like that's. We usually had two cars, so. 583 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,080 Alternators on cars now? Yep. 584 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,280 Alternators on. Yeah, we didn't run alternators 585 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:05,440 back in the day a lot. But dude, I mean, when you go to 586 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,880 some of these big races, you need to at least have a buddy 587 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,040 with you that is paying attention, that's listening, not 588 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,120 standing on the starting line. And you need somebody back in 589 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,360 the trailer listening, saying, hey, man, we got to turn them 590 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,760 and burn them, let's go. We got to be back up there. 591 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,480 Yeah, man. And I, I'm, I'm trying to 592 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,719 remember the name of the app that came out maybe this year or 593 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,760 last year where a racetrack could maybe have the app in the 594 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,760 radio. Station. 595 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,400 I know that, but there's a radio station deal where it it all 596 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,719 goes to this one place and because honestly, sometimes and 597 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,520 at some tracks I can't hear the doggone PA system and. 598 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,760 You go to a lot now. I know, man, so sometimes I I 599 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,320 can't hear it myself. So a it it would be hope 600 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,199 everybody to, you know, get something that you can put in 601 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,840 your trailer to connect them to the the radio station that that 602 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,760 way you can hear just fine, because that would be another 603 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,040 reason why somebody would miss around. 604 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,240 But I got another good comic. Casey, you got me on YouTube. 605 00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:04,680 Check it out. I'm going to take Chris 606 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,000 Galletti's here because we've talked about it 1000 times and 607 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,560 Chris is talking about, he says no more time trials. 608 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,760 If there is a buyback, no need for one. 609 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,400 If you are showing up to the races and don't know what your 610 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,000 car will run, you will know soon enough. 611 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,440 Time is the biggest reason for this. 612 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,440 Let's just race. I feel like if he is saying what 613 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,920 I think he's saying, so much time can elapse sometime where 614 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,640 you could easily forget to make a run or say you did go out and 615 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,000 get get you a cheeseburger sandwich down the hill or 616 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,720 something and try to make your way back to the racetrack. 617 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:41,400 But hey, we we got done sooner than expected. 618 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,400 Now round 3 is over, you know what I mean? 619 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,880 I think that's maybe what he's alluding to is, is there's just 620 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,800 so much going on. Got to make these things run a 621 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,880 little faster. What do you think? 622 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:55,800 I think what he's talking about is just the simple fact of just 623 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,760 going to the race to go racing and not having time runs. 624 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:04,120 And I don't know if IA 100% agree with that statement, but I 625 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,840 I said this on the last show. If you're a double entry, you 626 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,760 should not get double time runs. It should be one time run per 627 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,080 car period. Don't care who's driving it, 628 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,880 don't care who's in it. Because for example, if me and 629 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,120 you go to a race and we're running your truck and we know 630 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,360 our relative weight difference like that, we're not going to do 631 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,920 that for the first time at that race. 632 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,520 And even if we do after that first day, it's going to be a 633 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,640 three day event. We know how much different Casey 634 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,360 runs for George. Like I'm a little. 635 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,360 Bit down to the reaction time, always to the. 636 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,760 Reaction time, I'll be two hundreds faster than you or 637 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,920 something like that, right? So it doesn't matter if I run 638 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:44,240 the time run or if you do so like it's there's that's the 639 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:47,080 problem is that you run first round all through time runs. 640 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,680 And then if they're and then you run first round for real, then 641 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,120 you run the ball background. It's like that's a whole day 642 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,240 right there. That's a whole typical day of 643 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:56,400 racing. Like we're already talking. 644 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,720 That's 8 hours already and we still got to run the whole rest 645 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:03,880 of the race. I think a lot of, and this is 646 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,040 again, why we need to go into these big promoters need to 647 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,400 actually have a like I know, I want to say way back in the day, 648 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,240 all those NHRA pro teams had something literally called pro 649 00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:17,440 or something like that, that Kenny Bernstein headed up or 650 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,120 whatever. These big promoters need to 651 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,280 actually have a general idea of like, how do we run our races 652 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,480 better? How do we make this better for 653 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,320 us, better for the races? Because all this double entry 654 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,600 and big money stuff all really happened super quickly and it 655 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,880 was double entries were really allowed to artificially increase 656 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,400 the car count to allow for these big payouts. 657 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,800 And I'm not saying they should get away from double entries. 658 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,640 I'm just saying that the way we race now is based upon when we 659 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,160 all used to single enter back in the day. 660 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,360 And now we have 300 cars on site at the OG million. 661 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,440 I mean, if they set another record this year, we might have 662 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,200 700 entries. You know, it's this is and 663 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,640 that's not 700 cars. It's just we need to change the 664 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,680 way these things happen. I mean, Jenny Falk was saying 665 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,840 she was putting a poll out not too long ago saying what should 666 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,440 we do about the OG million because the OG million should be 667 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,600 one in front of everybody because it is so prestigious. 668 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,680 It should not be one at 4:00 in the morning. 669 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,320 It's a fact. It's a fact. 670 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,120 But we know that that's time trial based, right? 671 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,680 Getting back into that, right? And I don't want to get off on a 672 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,520 tangent. We can go back, go back to the 673 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,080 last room. I think we talked about that 674 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,080 even more. You know what I mean? 675 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,720 I want to stay on topic with this, with this ruling, I feel 676 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:42,120 like there was no right answer, OK? 677 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,000 Because it's not, there is no rule. 678 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,160 That is what needs to change, right, Casey? 679 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,800 That's where we need to make sure we keep pushing in as a as 680 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,720 a podcast, me and you as a community, you guys out there at 681 00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:00,440 the chat, we got to keep leaning in on stuff like this because 682 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,960 Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding. There's a promoter sitting here 683 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,240 reading it right now. OK, if you're reading the 684 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:09,760 Facebook chat, well, obviously you can put two and two together 685 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,480 at what actually happened, where it happened, who it happened to, 686 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,440 how it happened. I'm not going to say it. 687 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,720 Go to Facebook, read it. Right. 688 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:22,800 OK, But it's it's this type of conversation that maybe somebody 689 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,960 else is listening to. Maybe TV comes in here and 690 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,520 listens to this on Brian Whitworth. 691 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,800 You know, that's why we have this conversation, because 692 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,760 honestly, I don't. There's no right way to make 693 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,240 this call here. There's no right. 694 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,920 Or wrong. Answer because there is no rule. 695 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,320 Right. It it just needs to, it needs to 696 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,200 get to the point that there needs to be a basic set of this 697 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,520 is how we do things. So that way it's just common law 698 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,720 across everything. That way it saves the promoters 699 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:54,120 hassle because they can just look at it and reference it and 700 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,360 say this is the rules, what it is outside of my hands. 701 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,200 Yeah. And you know, you can think it's 702 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,600 right or wrong, but this is this is what it says right here. 703 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,480 I'm not making this up. It also takes a lot of stress 704 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,360 because I had all these promoters guys that that, you 705 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,720 know, oh, somebody screwed me. Somebody that that's the last 706 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:18,640 position that any of these guys want to be in is having to make 707 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,400 these type of decisions because this is the type of decision 708 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,040 that affects a lot of people. And. 709 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,240 They don't want to have to be in that position. 710 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:29,520 They came here to run a race. Run a good race and make sure 711 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,080 everything happens smoothly. Super hectic. 712 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,720 Dudes aren't sleeping all weekend. 713 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,480 It's the the hardest thing to do is not win the race. 714 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,200 The hardest thing to do is promote the race. 715 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,480 There ain't no way that the promoters we know, especially 716 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,280 the one that I'm Speaking of right now, ain't no way he's not 717 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,480 going to try to make it right, period. 718 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,200 It happened. Great. 719 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,800 It's over. Let me try to make it rock as 720 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,720 best as I can. It ain't even his fault, but 721 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:56,720 he's got it. It's a hand he's dealt now, you 722 00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:58,560 know what I mean? It's like you got it. 723 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,040 You got a royal flush if you would get the ace of spades or 724 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,280 something. You know what I mean? 725 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,040 It's like, oh shoot, I didn't get the ace. 726 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,480 It ain't perfect no more. OK, that it happens. 727 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,400 You just have to fold a hand because you ain't got nothing. 728 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,280 That was a terrible analogy, but I hope you understand what I'm 729 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,200 trying to say. Right. 730 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,160 But. Yeah, man, it's, I don't know. 731 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,800 I just, I think that certain things could be alleviated by 732 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,520 just having just things written down ahead of time. 733 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,320 You know, there's always the fine print on all these big 734 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,800 Flyers and everything, but there's not a lot of room for 735 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,120 this type of stuff. And I think that a lot of these 736 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,640 promoters could just benefit by getting together and saying, 737 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,000 what would you do in this situation? 738 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,080 They all have their own specific things that have happened. 739 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,080 I mean, TV's the newest thing out there and they've had some 740 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:47,040 crazy situations happen as well. And just, and the good part is 741 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,240 all the major promoters now are all racers themselves. 742 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,280 So they have their, they can see it from both sides of the 743 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,720 spectrum. If you've noticed, everybody 744 00:41:55,720 --> 00:42:00,240 here that puts on these big races, all of them are racers 745 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:03,680 themselves. So they can see from your side 746 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,320 in the staging lanes and they can see it from their side in 747 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,920 the tower. And that's what's really cool 748 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,800 about everything as it all comes down to it. 749 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,920 And I think that's why there's not a lot of Internet outrage. 750 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,560 There's it's still all going to be there, but not like it used 751 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,760 to be and that's because the people putting on these races 752 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,600 are respected. That's right. 753 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,080 That's right. And they all have a, a, a, a, a 754 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,880 soft spot or a warm spot, whatever you want to call it for 755 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,240 what we call bracket racing. They all love this sport, so 756 00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:38,120 they're going to protect it. Period. 757 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,360 You did it. It whatever is in the best 758 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,440 interest of bracket racing, I I'm not going on a limb. 759 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,840 I don't feel like anyway when I say all of the promoters that 760 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,400 put on races for us, they have our best interest at mine in 761 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,640 this sport. So that's that's what I know. 762 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,760 I'm I'm not preaching to inquire on that one. 763 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,800 I'm pretty sure you guys agree. And the big money promoters 764 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,640 anymore, most all of them put on more than one race a year. 765 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,720 So obviously if you think they're out to get you, you're 766 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,840 completely wrong. And there is no if, ands or buts 767 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,840 about it because they can't just make their customers mad or else 768 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,400 they'll never come back and they'll lose their butts on the 769 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,560 next one. So they obviously want to make 770 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,760 the correct decision. Here's a good one out Ole Miss. 771 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,840 They drag way old Greg Gephardt chiming in. 772 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,800 I think every single promoter doesn't stop learning on ways to 773 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,960 improve the next one. Their minds never stop on how to 774 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,800 make the facility or the race better in the future. 775 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,840 For everybody that's across the board, not only the promoter. 776 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,080 I feel like the live streamers are the same way. 777 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,680 Everybody is out to make it as great and as enjoyable as 778 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,080 possible. Either by the racer that's in 779 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,840 the racing event, You, you going down the track, you, you giving 780 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,920 it your blood sweat, your tears, your cramps, your, your whatever 781 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,360 you got going on the pickle juice, whatever you drinking to 782 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,680 stay hydrated. It's 109° and Satan is dangling 783 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,560 it. I ain't going to say what I was 784 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,000 thinking over the Christmas tree. 785 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,200 They just sitting there dangling at the Christmas tree. 786 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,120 That's how hot it is outside, right? 787 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,400 Filling the gaps. Yep. 788 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,680 But but, but everybody is going to try to make it as good as 789 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,080 possible. Even right here on this old, old 790 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,560 podcast. We're going to make this sport 791 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,400 as good as possible. That's a great comment right 792 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,840 there, Casey. Man, I don't know where else we 793 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,040 could go except for the fact that it happens. 794 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,200 Human error happens. Let's put a rule book out there. 795 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,280 That way, you promoters, you ain't got to worry about nothing 796 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,040 no more. You say, hey, let's go on over 797 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,120 here. Such and such. 798 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,280 Read this right here. Oh, you see it? 799 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,800 It's in black and white. We'll get out my face then. 800 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,880 That's your fault. You, you get on the pot here. 801 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,400 You know what I mean? I can't do nothing about it. 802 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,360 This in the rule book. We're following it, you know. 803 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,160 Right. And I think I think that would I 804 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,600 think that would solve a lot of issues. 805 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,360 I think there's, there's just things that are happening 806 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,000 anymore and there's so much money on the line anymore than 807 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,640 at a certain point you need to have a basic system saying this 808 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,520 is what we do in this situation. And I think, I think if you had 809 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:04,040 a 20 rules written down, I think that would solve probably 90% of 810 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,920 problems. There would still be things out 811 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,320 of the ordinary and that's what is going to be up to the 812 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,600 discretion of the promoter and what's going on. 813 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,160 But just to solve these small issues, I mean, this obviously 814 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,160 is a big issue, but I'm just saying to have that written down 815 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,360 to say if this is what we do, it solves it immediately. 816 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,880 No one has to feel bad about it. You know, it just is what it is. 817 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,680 It's a very rare occasion that anything like this would happen. 818 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,000 I mean, this is the first time I've ever heard of it getting 819 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,440 caught in all these years of being at the racetrack. 820 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,800 I literally have lived my entire life at at a racetrack and I've 821 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,400 heard of this possibly happening. 822 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,440 I've never seen it with my own eyes and this is the first time 823 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:49,840 it's ever been seen and I still didn't see it, you know, but but 824 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,920 yeah, man, awesome day over here in the YouTube chat saying 825 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,480 should double entries run first? Should that be one of the things 826 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,560 in the rule book where they all run each other so they're taking 827 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,600 each other out We're. Kind of doing that across the 828 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,120 board a little. Bit in a lot of places that's 829 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,280 helping Chris Coletti's idea because it's kind of knocking 830 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,280 some out early. Well, we're already doing it 831 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,080 too, guys. I mean, there's a lot of people 832 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:15,400 who called up Double S together, try to name a promoter and, and, 833 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,040 and I'd be wrong, but I know I've heard it over and over 834 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,120 again to where we're doing that. Should it happen across the 835 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,160 board, I think it would help things. 836 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,280 It would help speed things up. Of course it would. 837 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:28,520 But should it be a rule? Who knows? 838 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,120 Maybe could it could be a great concept for sure. 839 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,600 You know, Casey, what else you got, man? 840 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:35,600 I know you got some more in there. 841 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,240 I see Brandon, Brandon Justice. Brandon Justice said he missed 842 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:41,760 the round earlier this year. He was down down the track and 843 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,600 didn't have radio station. I imagine that that that has 844 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,840 either happened or has been close to happening more often 845 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,760 than what we know, you know what I mean? 846 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,520 And driver just turn around and go back in. 847 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,640 In this particular instance, driver just didn't realize it 848 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,440 was round four. I think that could be easy to 849 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,400 do. Very easy. 850 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,640 Well, that's the thing, I mean, at at the end of the day too, 851 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,600 it's like I was telling you earlier, I've been in that 852 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,080 situation before where I've literally been going down the 853 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,320 track. Well, I cannot be expected to 854 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,480 hear the call back to the lanes if I'm physically in the race 855 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,680 car going down the track as they're calling somebody, you 856 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,280 know, And that's, that's common sense for anybody. 857 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,880 Montel Racing said he finally got time to watch watch the show 858 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,400 live. We're glad to have you here. 859 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,680 Let me see, I was looking through something else up in 860 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:30,600 here my dad made. And Jonathan, and Jonathan is, 861 00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:34,840 you know, I think I think he's he's he's he's pretty, pretty 862 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,360 spot on with his comment, even though I hope it changes in the 863 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,760 future. I'm just going to caveat this, 864 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,000 this comment with that Jonathan Rogers, I don't see you getting 865 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:47,200 promoters to agree on a set of rules because they all do things 866 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,600 a little different. Break rule, the brake rule and 867 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,000 switching cars is a prime example. 868 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,960 Not all promoters do it. I agree with this 100%. 869 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:03,000 I just feel like especially to to your point about if your car 870 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,640 breaks you can jump in another car and going down the track at 871 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:06,800 that's what you're you're saying. 872 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,000 That's a little bit different than missing around right? 873 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,400 So every every promoter should still retain the ability to do 874 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:20,080 things that they have in their book of laws or book of 875 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,080 thoughts, whatever you want to call it at their event. 876 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,640 Don't want to take that away from any promoter. 877 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,040 That's what makes that's what gives people the ability to 878 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,480 choose where they want to race to. 879 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,520 It's it's it's the different effect. 880 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,040 I I go over here on flicker promotions as Brandon Justin 881 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,640 says, he says flicker promotions, they got a really 882 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,240 good double entry system where they're running how they're 883 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:46,600 running their double S. Well, that might be a reason 884 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,080 that a lot of people come to Texas and go race with flicker, 885 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,400 who I heard had close to some three, maybe 300 some entries. 886 00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:55,360 Hey, good job out there at that race, man, the way to show up 887 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,360 racers to go out and race that Flicker promotions. 888 00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,520 I was streaming a race. Otherwise I'd have been out 889 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,240 there my dog on self right. So. 890 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,480 Going off of what he's saying, what is broke? 891 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,880 Like what is broke mean? Because is it broke because you 892 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,520 can't fix it or is it broke because somebody who knows what 893 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,520 they're doing can't fix it? Like is does broke mean that? 894 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,360 For example, if it's running on 7 cylinders, is that broke or 895 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,000 are you not smart enough to figure out like a spark plug 896 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,760 wire it and working and you've swapped the wires or something 897 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,640 to figure out now it's running on 8 cylinders. 898 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,040 Or like if you got a flat tire, Well, I'm going to assure you 899 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,880 somebody else has a big Bubba might not be an Aluma star, but 900 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,160 it's on something else. And it's like I just, I've 901 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,400 always kind of thought that the brake rule where you just jump 902 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,600 in a different car. I've never really liked that 903 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,400 because on one hand, yes, you're immediately at a disadvantage. 904 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,840 Not so much anymore because you like, say you run a 450 dragster 905 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,320 and you find another 450 dragster. 906 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,280 I mean, there's a chance nowadays, there's so many of 907 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,320 them out there. You might find a 450 dragster of 908 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,800 the exact same make and model of your stuff with the same motor 909 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,440 from the same engine builder. Like that's not, that's just a 910 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,640 totally exactly the same car. And I've just always thought 911 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,680 like, man, part of racing is racing the car that you showed 912 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,960 up with and you entered and it's it's getting to the end. 913 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,440 That's why I like, for example, point series. 914 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,480 That's why point series are so hard because you had to 915 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,920 consistently be good the entire season. 916 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,720 I don't care if you win the points championship or whatever 917 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:39,000 you think's the easiest track to win in your whole life, you 918 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,200 still won consistently more than everybody else all year. 919 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,080 And it is very difficult, especially in the double entry 920 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,560 days. Say you double enter the same 921 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,920 car. Yeah, I mean, say you double 922 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,280 enter, that's that 450 dragster and you run it all year long and 923 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,160 let's say you're winning all this stuff. 924 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,080 Well, instead of putting 100 runs on a car, now you've put 925 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,000 200 runs on a car. Stuff is starting to wear out, 926 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,480 starting to, you know, planetaries you're leaving on 927 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,840 them every single time you need to you need to have a spare 928 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,160 transmission, you need to be able to swap that thing out 929 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,680 between rounds and stuff like that. 930 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,240 I just feel like the brake rule. I've never really been a fan of 931 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:21,600 the the whole get into a different car type of scenario, 932 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,200 especially now that so many people have their other car that 933 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,080 they know what it's going to run based on the other, you know, 934 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,360 it's or they might be two identical cars. 935 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:37,280 You know, it's, it's just I feel like that car should finish the 936 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,000 race. Whatever car was entered in the 937 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,240 race, that should be what you're racing now. 938 00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:43,200 I don't care if it has a whole different motor in it. 939 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,720 Pro Mod guys do that all the time. 940 00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:47,680 Top Fuel obviously does it every single run, but they race the 941 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,440 same car, right? Right. 942 00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:52,840 Yeah, you know, and, and, but again, to each their own. 943 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,840 I'm not putting my, I'm not putting my keister on the line. 944 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,200 To put it in the rules and say what it is say. 945 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,800 What it is, I'm not hosting the race though if it's in their 946 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,600 bylaws to run that race this way and the break is this and that 947 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,000 you can switch, cool. But it's the other stuff that 948 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,240 pops up that needs to be across the board. 949 00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:15,200 Somebody needs to come together and. 950 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,040 Right. Think about situationals like 951 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,720 this is situational, on the fly type of stuff that a race 952 00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:25,320 director or a promoter would have to tackle. 953 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,240 It needs to be, we have a flyer, right? 954 00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:30,880 We always have a flyer showing the payout, showing the entry 955 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,800 fee, stuff like that. And there's always a front and 956 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,600 back of the flyer. This needs just be something 957 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,760 that's stapled to the end and saying, by the way, we're 958 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,640 running off this rule set. So you know, everything we're 959 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,840 doing before we show up and anything at the end of this 960 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,520 that's not on here. Is that discretion of the 961 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,160 promoter? And yes, at the end of the day, 962 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,920 that's how rule books get to be massive because then we go in 963 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,320 this, that and the other. But dude, I mean, like I said, 964 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,760 it sure would make a promoter's life a lot easier and I'm sure 965 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,520 that they would love to have something to reference to say, 966 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,680 look, man, I'm not making this decision. 967 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,720 This is the decision that that is supposed to be made. 968 00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:07,240 And you read it before you entered the race, just like the 969 00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:09,200 whole refund policy and all that stuff. 970 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,040 Yep, Yep, man. I'm I'm just trying to think of 971 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,280 a good catchy name for the book because I'm about to just start 972 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,680 a book on my own if that's the case and just share it with 973 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,080 everybody. Somebody said that in in the 974 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,920 YouTube chat, they said you guys, you guys got all the 975 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,640 inside information all the time. You guys should make the rule 976 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,720 book. I don't want to do that. 977 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,880 I don't want to. You add them all onto a excel 978 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,680 dock or APDF or something and then boom. 979 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,840 I mean, we can put them up for debate or poll or whatever if 980 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,120 anybody wants to really do that. I mean, I guess we could do that 981 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,240 on DVR where we can put it up and say, what do you think? 982 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,720 But yeah, but I mean, at the end of the day, I'm not going to 983 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,160 sign my name on the dotted line saying these are Casey's rules. 984 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:55,400 I'll tell you that. No, these are these are these, 985 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,640 these are just moments in time where it's just like, I can't 986 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:03,640 believe that happened and. At the same time I've. 987 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,960 Dreamed about it. So obviously my mind has done 988 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,040 something along the lines of I could be slow enough in my own 989 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,240 brain to miss around myself. Just me, right? 990 00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:17,120 Just I, I went to sleep and woke up. 991 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,160 Oh shoot, it's fifth round. I was supposed to race 3 rounds 992 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,440 ago, you know what I mean? Anybody who's a racer that has 993 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,440 been double entered has had that scenario happen where they come 994 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,240 back, get out of the car after they just won around or lost 995 00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:31,000 around or whatever, and somebody's like, dude, you got 996 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,080 to get going. Everybody's been in that 997 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,320 situation. I can totally sympathize with 998 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,240 the racer who did it. I don't think he did it 999 00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:39,440 nefariously. I don't like, why would you do 1000 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,320 that 'cause you know, you're probably going to get caught 1001 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,000 anyway. So I don't see that guy doing it 1002 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,240 nefariously. I don't see the promoter, like 1003 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,400 there is no right way for them to do it. 1004 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,200 They just did the best that they could at the time and made the 1005 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,200 decisions they made at the time based on the knowledge they had. 1006 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,400 You know, it's just without anything written down, you have 1007 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,480 to make stuff up on the fly and people are going to, some people 1008 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,560 will like it and some people won't, and there's nothing you 1009 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,240 can do about. It Yeah, I'm just going to throw 1010 00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:08,400 it out there too, because I'm really liking this idea. 1011 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,800 I know quite a bit about the Discord system as a whole and I 1012 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,160 know that you can create channels in discord. 1013 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,200 You can have ATB promotions discord or a coal Burke 1014 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,400 promotions discord or whoever you are out there going bracket 1015 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,480 racing discord. Maybe I'll make that one day 1016 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,360 call it, you know, part of GBR garage and allow people to call 1017 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,480 in and give their questions with their voice just by logging into 1018 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,520 our discord. I've always thought about that 1019 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:34,680 just ain't never been able to do it. 1020 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,680 But if you have a Discord channel and you know you're 1021 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,240 going to said race, if you go on your phone and join the channel, 1022 00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:43,760 everything's there, even the rule book, what could be housed 1023 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,720 on the Discord channel. So there's there's a good, good 1024 00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:49,600 thought process behind opening Discord. 1025 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,840 Someone said on here and I think I'll get his name here because 1026 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,400 it was a great comment. Dan, Dan, I ain't even going to 1027 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,720 try to say your last name, Dan. So I'm just going to call you 1028 00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:01,200 Dan, Lieutenant Dan. That's what I'm calling right 1029 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,000 there. Hey, but anyway, he said NHRA 1030 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,360 moved to Discord. So I mean obviously the discord 1031 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,760 thought process is going to swirl as people see how NHRA 1032 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,240 does with it and maybe you heard it here 3rd or 5th or whatever. 1033 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:17,600 Discord could be a good spot. No case. 1034 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,360 The thing that I've liked about I've only ran a couple races 1035 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,360 that have used the WhatsApp deal, and I think maybe the 1036 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,240 fling might have used WhatsApp. But what's really cool about 1037 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,400 WhatsApp is that you can join like a PDRA. 1038 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,040 You join the top sportsman group. 1039 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,320 If you run a top sportsman, it only dinged your phone when they 1040 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,800 call top sportsman or say anything about a run order 1041 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,960 change that includes top sportsman or something like 1042 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,360 that. So it says, hey, this is your 1043 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,680 first call to the lanes and it Dings your phone in your pocket 1044 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,240 that is presumably on your person like A at. 1045 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:52,840 And like A at or A at, it's at top. 1046 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,080 Sportsman exactly like that, but it doesn't it doesn't Ding it 1047 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,080 like when they call pro nitrous or bracket bash or something 1048 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,480 like that. It Dings it only when they call 1049 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,800 top sportsman. So yeah, that's what I really 1050 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,920 liked about it. I I was telling my mom, my mom's 1051 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,200 like I don't like that. She goes, I don't like that. 1052 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,360 That means you got to have a phone. 1053 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,160 I said mom, I said, I said everybody my age and under 1054 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,320 that's racing here has we like it this. 1055 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,960 This is pretty good. Hey man, this has been a great 1056 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,720 comment. Should I say a great 1057 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,360 conversation. Special shout out to everybody 1058 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,480 who came to the question from the pit, the going bracket race, 1059 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,800 the e-mail helping us with the topic. 1060 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,320 We didn't even have a topic for today. 1061 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:39,400 Let's keep it that way, keeping it honest and, and, but keep it 1062 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,960 in your hearts. Keep it in your thoughts, guys. 1063 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,280 These are tough decisions when you have to be made. 1064 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:49,640 I know that adrenaline and anger and fuel and and and everything 1065 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,880 is at A at a high high, the highest point it's probably been 1066 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,200 for the whole weekend. Let's put it that way. 1067 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,720 But keep in mind, the person making the decision on something 1068 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,320 like this is in a pretty, pretty tough position at this point. 1069 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,240 And, and that person and, and our sport of bracket racing is 1070 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,040 going to do what is right for the sport. 1071 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,480 Keep that in mind, man. Ain't got nothing else to add to 1072 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,400 that. I will say my hero Steve Riggins 1073 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,880 over here is in the YouTube check that and he says go dead 1074 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,400 on has a great alerts program. It's capable of having Flyers, 1075 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:25,240 rules, etcetera all within it and that is something that I 1076 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,280 believe is also owned by a bracket racer. 1077 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,360 So be able to keep that stuff in the community rather than go out 1078 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,320 to some other platform. Yep, I can't remember the old 1079 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,760 boy's name. I feel like he's out of Ohio 1080 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,800 somewhere and he drives. It gets Logan back. 1081 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,000 There you go back and then he's got a sister the back yeah 1082 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,560 anyway, anyway, pretty 2 pretty tough racers. 1083 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,880 MW Felix is saying the same thing and I've seen it a few 1084 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,040 times on Facebook too. It's saying go dead on app. 1085 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:53,120 It has it all. So sounds like a pretty good 1086 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,840 thought process as well as go dead on. 1087 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,640 I'm, I'm starting to see them at pretty pretty much every big 1088 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,880 money race as it is in the 1st place as a marketing partner at 1089 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,360 least You know what I mean, Casey. 1090 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,480 Yeah, absolutely. What you what you got in 1091 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:10,360 closing, Big Dog? Austin Day, that's a good joke, 1092 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,320 he said. New organization being created 1093 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,520 here at the GBR series. I don't, I don't know about 1094 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:15,920 that, man. Not unless you got a lot of 1095 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,760 money to back us. Then I guess we can make that 1096 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,840 happen. I remember, I said, remember I 1097 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,240 said there was a lot of people putting a put Nate Keisters on 1098 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,160 the line for this sport. Yeah, that's that's what it 1099 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,160 takes, man. It's a lot, a lot that goes into 1100 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,640 this. I'm not going to sit here and 1101 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,240 say or even think that I wouldn't know what to do. 1102 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,080 I probably go hide under somebody's trailer. 1103 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,080 If I had to make the doggone decision myself, Casey, you know 1104 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,360 I'm going to be hiding somewhere. 1105 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,240 Hey, where's George? It's definitely not an envious, 1106 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,760 yeah, it's definitely not an envious situation to be in, 1107 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,000 Reagan says. Yeah, it is Logan Back that owns 1108 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,560 Go Dead on. Muns Hill Racing says he loves 1109 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,800 Go Dead On, so evidently Go Dead On. 1110 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,880 Hey, maybe we need to have Logan back on this show and talk about 1111 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,000 that. Yeah, buddy. 1112 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,280 Yeah, buddy. You know, and but hey. 1113 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,320 Goingbracketracing@gmail.com Get a hold of us. 1114 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,720 Hey, hey, Casey. I ain't got nothing closing, 1115 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,720 man, except for we'll see you guys next Tuesday with another 1116 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,120 episode of Going Bracket Racing and we'll figure out what to 1117 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,480 talk about sometime in in the next week. 1118 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,720 Thanks for chiming in with us, filling up the chat. 1119 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,720 It's been fun. See y'all next week. 1120 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:23,400 Tailgate