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Crew chief Pro software, that's 47 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:55,120 how George figures out how to run dead on all the time. 48 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,840 He'll tell you he's working on his his truck over there, but I 49 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:00,200 don't know if he is, he might just be using that Crew chief 50 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,560 Pro putting that dial in on there. 51 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,040 Don Higgins got him figured out right And good crew chief 52 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,040 pro.com get you some crew chief pro software so you can be like 53 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,520 George. Hey, Gearhead solutions, great 54 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,680 customer service, access to thousands of vendors. 55 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,000 I think they're selling trailers over there now, too. 56 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,680 Call Trevor over there a Gearhead solutions for anything 57 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:18,880 you need. I know he's doing trailer 58 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,880 maintenance to stop in over there in Tennessee whenever 59 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,680 you're on your way to wherever you're going, get you some 60 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,480 maintenance because Trevor likes to get his hands dirty over 61 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,120 there. He likes it. 62 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,640 He likes beating around on stuff, it seems like. 63 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,960 But call him for parts. If you need parts to, 64 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,800 gearheadsolutions.com is the place to go. 65 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:40,120 And of course, Mid State Dragway in Havana, IL, Georgia was over 66 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,160 there getting some new Flyers up doing all kinds of stuff over 67 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,400 there. Mid State Dragway is the place 68 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,840 to be if you are in the Midwest. I'm telling you right now, they 69 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:51,760 got the best Quick 16 program over there. 70 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,800 They really have some of the best local programs period 71 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,840 because you got Twin 10s, you got all kinds of stuff going on. 72 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:01,320 George, you just downloaded the newest flyer. 73 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,240 What do you got going on over there at Mid State? 74 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:08,800 Well, let's talk about it Casey man mid state as always guys is 75 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,800 the state to be jealous of at this point. 76 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,960 If you are a bracket racer every it's six. 77 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,920 It's six big weekends as you can see right here on the flyer. 78 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,880 Mid state 20 tens. The next event is August 28th 79 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,760 through the 30th. As always, on a Friday, instead 80 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,960 of just having to test in tune, they got a 32 car gamblers race 81 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,840 1500 to win no buybacks. So you better come with it right 82 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:34,200 off the RIP, you know what I'm saying? 83 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,920 But to kick it off on a Friday night, that's what you got. 84 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,760 Twin 10s on Saturday and Sunday, paying $50 round money. 85 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:45,680 Starting in the third round. Everybody's really competing for 86 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,840 the end of the year shootout. There is a free shootout at the 87 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:51,160 end of the year. I feel like there's 30 cars that 88 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,840 will be taken from the points and then two would be selected 89 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:58,680 by wild card. So you definitely want to try 90 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,080 and if you're in that area, make sure you're entered into these 91 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,680 events to see if you can't run for a free 10K. 92 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,560 We can talk all day about the entry fee that never changes, 93 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,200 but seemingly the purse most of the time goes up. 94 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,480 If you can look on this fire and look pretty close, you might 95 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,280 have to get close into there, but September and October looks 96 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,520 like there's going to be $20,000 to win instead of 10, at least 97 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,760 on one of the days. And I know they're not going to 98 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,800 make the the price of your entry go up. 99 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,520 So all the reasons to be in cahoots with Mid State Dragway. 100 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,480 Shout out to the team out there. You guys are continuing to do a 101 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,960 good job and we expect nothing but growth and continued 102 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,400 success. While we're on the topic of 103 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,160 upcoming drag races, in the clerical part of this particular 104 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:52,520 stream episode of Going Bracket Racing 239 239th Edition, there 105 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,000 we have the Super Buck Showdown Live July 2nd through the 4th. 106 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,080 That's this weekend, folks. If you had looked at your 107 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,160 calendar and figured we're already halfway through another 108 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,600 dog going year, right? But anyway, we're going to be 109 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,560 out there at Extreme Raceway Park Thursday starting with that 110 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,040 5K All Run warm up race speaks for itself. 111 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,720 Get in there, dial it tight because you're coming to the 112 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,000 gauntlet. That's all I got to tell you, 113 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,000 right? Bring your A game Friday and 114 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,680 Saturday. You going to be going for 20K 115 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,920 round money starts third round, it's $100 per round, no box 116 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,280 separate. You running for a separate 20K? 117 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,559 Look into risky business. I know it sounds a little little 118 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,159 risky, little strange, but that risky business might pay off 119 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,120 more. It might be a risk, but takes 120 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,760 risk to make more rewarding, you know what I mean? 121 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,200 So make sure you get off into those things there. 122 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,720 Duck races going on Friday and Saturday. 123 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:52,080 I believe they will be shooting off some fireworks on Friday. 124 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:55,960 Don't shoot the messenger because I'm not 100% sure of 125 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,800 that, but I know I think I read it somewhere online right there 126 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,560 live at XRP. We will be live right here on 127 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:05,160 going bracket racing for this event. 128 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,040 If you would like to watch the live stream, special shout out 129 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,880 to everybody involved with this event and shout out to the 130 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,680 Pennant and brothers. Keep on doing a good job 131 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,760 promoting drag racing. Whatever the case it is, may be 132 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,360 with your racing operations, Casey. 133 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,280 Let's talk buddy. Let's talk. 134 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,240 A lot of things going on today, I feel like man. 135 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,080 And we really got to get the ball rolling with anything you 136 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,200 got upcoming. What? 137 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,520 What news you got out of Adrenaline World when we're 138 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,320 going to see the siding of the Adrenaline Chevelle? 139 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:41,200 Man, I've had so much going on this year that my racing 140 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,600 programs kind of stalled out there for a minute. 141 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:49,600 But I did see that. Well, I'll give you a I'll give 142 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,360 you a couple little short stories here. 143 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,920 I've been talking to a guy, obviously I was talking last 144 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,560 time we were on this show, episode 238. 145 00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:00,800 I was talking to IRD over there about about getting a blow 146 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,720 through carburetor. Got to talk to him a little bit 147 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:08,360 more about that. Talk to John down towards 148 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,800 Fayetteville West End I think is where he's actually at ion 149 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,360 suspension. I was talking to him and he's 150 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,760 got me a set of shocks coming for a for a very good price. 151 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,800 I think he actually worked for Mincer for quite a few years, 152 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,200 but going to give him a shot over here. 153 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,760 He told me he's, I mean dude, I've talked to this guy on the 154 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,400 phone for hours and by the way, no affiliation here. 155 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,200 I'm paying full price for all of his stuff. 156 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,120 Literally no affiliation with GBR. 157 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,720 Just appreciate the fact that whenever people can offer their 158 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,480 knowledge to me for free, then I feel like I should also be able 159 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,480 to tell you guys what's what I don't have in my hands yet, but 160 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,200 build me a set of shocks for a very fair price. 161 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,880 And of course, since he's in my area, he said, hey man, if 162 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,480 you're ever going to go test, just let me know. 163 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,000 I'll come up there and, and help you out and we'll get stuff 164 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,160 figured out. And you know, as well as I do 165 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,480 with what I got going on. You can only do so much by the 166 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,160 seat of your pants and looking at sensors on the car like you 167 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,720 need somebody on the outside of the car videoing helping you 168 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,920 understand what's going on, things like that. 169 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,920 So very excited. That's that's kind of what I'm 170 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,200 more excited about than anything anymore as I like learn. 171 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,760 I like having something that I can actually learn from and not 172 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,240 necessarily go out there and just be like, oh, well, it 173 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,480 varied 5 thousands this time. I want it to vary 3 thousands. 174 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,080 I mean, that's cool and everything. 175 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,160 It takes its own deal. But I, I like that the challenge 176 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,400 of being like, well, we're trying to go 420, you know, so 177 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,880 if we're going to do that in a door car, then we need to figure 178 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,240 out how we're not going to shake the tires whenever we go out 179 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,680 here. And it's 160° track temperature 180 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:57,080 day. And last time we were out here, 181 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,760 it was 105 track temperature, you know what I mean? 182 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,960 So that's what interests me nowadays and just generally 183 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,280 going fast and try to repeat going fast. 184 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,480 It's new challenge, but that's kind of what I have going on. 185 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,000 Other than that, just been building my office out there in 186 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,000 the shop, working on working on stuff out there, being a 187 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,360 Carpenter in a drywaller. It's one of those things where 188 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,800 I'm like, man, I like, I can do it, but I don't want to, you 189 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:29,880 know what I mean? So, so yeah, it's one of those 190 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,520 deals where you're like, man, I wish, I wish my my boy was about 191 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,040 the age that your oldest is right now, because then he could 192 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,040 actually help me rather than me have to babysit a man work on at 193 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,560 the same time. Yeah, it's true. 194 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:42,760 It's coming. You know, my boy doesn't do much 195 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,880 yet, but the chore, the chore list is starting to raise as I 196 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,840 get to the age of not wanting to do anything and he gets to the 197 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,720 age of doing it for me. So that is what it is, right, 198 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,080 Casey? Yeah, My, my weekend was 199 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,880 eventful. Some things we hadn't even 200 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,440 discussed yet, Casey. But on my way to the racetrack 201 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,280 on Saturday, I get about 5 miles away from XRP. 202 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:09,480 Trucks running hot. Here we go. 203 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,720 This is this is how bracket racing works, right? 204 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,400 I pull over at A at a luckily a truck stop. 205 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,880 Lucky for me, right got off the Interstate, went straight to a 206 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,360 truck stop, popped the hood, Figure out what was going on in 207 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,080 the radiator had a pinhole in it. 208 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,920 Just a very small pinhole. And you know those radiators 209 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,760 under pressure, Well, they're going to spit out as much water 210 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,240 as they possibly can in in a few seconds. 211 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:38,520 Good old JB Will and a little bit of engine ingenuity later I 212 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,160 make my way to Texas Motorplex get unloaded on on time before 213 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,560 everything started. Shout out to everybody out at 214 00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:48,880 XRP and and Vince for saving me a spot and all. 215 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:54,840 You know everything like that. Cars nasty, drivers not end of 216 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,560 discussion. What are we talking about today? 217 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,960 Well, I guess we're not talking about that because you just went 218 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,880 off that real. Quick, that's it, asshole. 219 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:08,600 Where's the manhole at? At the very top, you know how 220 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,600 the the, the hose comes right under and honestly, it's a 221 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,480 pinhole that it had had once before. 222 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,200 Needless to say, I'm not getting rid of my truck. 223 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,680 So I'll be hollering at my old boys up there, Bo up there. 224 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,600 Sparks Automotive here in Sherman, TX. 225 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,080 Let's get that radiator the heck up out of here and get a new one 226 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,240 in it because my truck's not going anywhere. 227 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,800 And I'm going to be honest with you, I don't want to be on the 228 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,280 side of the road more times than I have to be. 229 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,600 That's when it's 100° outside, that's for sure A. 100° hot got 230 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,560 people looking at me weird, got people pulling up with problems 231 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,320 like my battery won't start, like hey man, you got a big 28 232 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,520 foot trailer sitting right there. 233 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,040 I know you got some tools in there, and I know you see me 234 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,080 over here struggling, and it's like you see me struggling too, 235 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,160 right? Dang it, I can't help you right 236 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,000 now. I'm running back and forth to 237 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,440 the dock on bathroom to get water, so leave me alone. 238 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:04,520 Yep, No, man, no. Just been as usual, like I say, 239 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,760 almost on every single show, everybody needs to pay attention 240 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,480 to go on bracket race Facebook page over here because every 241 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,040 once in awhile, pretty much whatever's in my mind whenever I 242 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,040 wake up in the morning, I'll put up on there and you know, like 243 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,160 old PJ N says he's like, man, 99% of those things you look, 244 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,840 you look in there and you're like, man, why? 245 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,880 Why is this guy saying this? But like, I don't know, man, I 246 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,920 put those things up just kind of smart conversation just to get 247 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,440 more ideas for entertainment for you guys and kind of be able to, 248 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,520 I mean, really the whole goal is obviously to get people talking 249 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,800 about bracket race and get the get the word out about the sport 250 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,920 and hopefully make the sport a little bit better just by 251 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,840 allowing people to voice their opinions and kind of get, I 252 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,800 mean, honestly, get things, get some, get some ideas out there 253 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:58,080 that we can talk about to make the sport better overall. 254 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,360 So we got to track. We got 3K3. 255 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,320 Yeah man, you made three posts. I'm going to start straight from 256 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,800 the bottom, dude. The the oldest one that you made 257 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,920 basically asking who believes the following. 258 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,680 If you pay cash coming in the gate, cash on, you should get 259 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,920 cash on the way out. If you pay with the card, you 260 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,720 can wait on the mail, right? Let's talk about it, Casey, 261 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,560 because I feel like it has evolved this conversation, 262 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,200 especially with the latter part of it where it says if you pay 263 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,240 with a card, you should be able to wait to receive your funds. 264 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,880 I feel like that's definitely a good way to frame this question. 265 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:41,580 What were your thoughts coming into this particular quote UN 266 00:16:41,580 --> 00:16:44,560 quote, idea hunting, probing thought process? 267 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,080 Go for it. Well, the So my thought with 268 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,840 that more than anything is just, first of all, I'll preface this 269 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,960 with you can only put so many words in a Facebook post before 270 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,760 it looks like, you know, a news article, a novel. 271 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,760 So, yeah, so I can only put so many words. 272 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,520 And, you know, the first thing somebody said, somebody said in 273 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,720 there, they're like, well, I don't want to have $50,000 cash 274 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,119 given to me whenever I win this race or whatever. 275 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,480 And then everybody knows because of social media, I'm driving 276 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,119 home 50 grand cash. Dude. 277 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:18,040 That's obviously not what I meant. 278 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:23,520 I mean we can argue all we want check and cash, that's the same 279 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,440 thing in my mind as far as when the when the check is coming 280 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,880 from a promoter, presumably the promoter is somebody you trusted 281 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,880 to be able to have their check not bounced. 282 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:39,360 So that that is the same to me. My point was really more than 283 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:43,960 anything that there's a lot of people that pay with cards 284 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,480 anymore and I don't, I really don't. 285 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,320 I don't like that. I don't think you should pay for 286 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,400 your hobby with a credit card, like especially whenever it's 287 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,040 racing, because people get so upside down and that type of 288 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,680 stuff. I've seen it my entire life and 289 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,080 and people get caught up in things. 290 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,840 But the more than anything, I don't believe that, you know, in 291 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:10,280 this day and age, I go to some races where 50% of the people 292 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,440 paid for their entry fee with a credit card. 293 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,520 What people forget about is whatever we're paying for these 294 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,800 races on like Saturdays and Sundays and whatever, those 295 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,400 transactions aren't going through until Monday at the 296 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,280 earliest. So why should this other guy 297 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,600 have to be able to like, and again, somebody's going to say, 298 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,120 well, they should have all the money to begin with. 299 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:32,800 Yes, they should have all the money to begin with. 300 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,280 This isn't my point. My point is, is that you don't 301 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,520 even know if that credit card transaction in certain cases is 302 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,920 good until Monday and you may have already paid this guy and 303 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,720 the entry fee might not even go through. 304 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,400 It was more so a a conversational topic. 305 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,400 Just stating the fact that, you know, everybody, there's only so 306 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:58,080 many promoters out there and you're, you know, there's tons 307 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,040 of racers out there is tons of participants out there and 308 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:07,120 everybody wants to pile on the promoter in at, at GBR 99.9% of 309 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:09,600 the time, dude, we're on the promoter side and we sometimes 310 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,360 have promoters get in here and act like we're not dude. 311 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:15,280 We're the, we're the most for the promoter out of probably all 312 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,840 these shows out there that that have existed throughout all this 313 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,600 time. So the fact of the matter is, is 314 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,200 that we're always trying to say, hey, man, look at it from 315 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,240 somebody else's perspective. And everybody just needs to be 316 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,560 truthful in these scenarios and be like, dude, if it takes, you 317 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,360 know, if it takes a week for stuff to clear into your bank 318 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:39,080 account, you know, every, I, I saw a few comments in there too 319 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,520 saying, oh, well, so and so might need the money to get home 320 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,200 that night. Well dude, if if so and so 321 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,920 needed the money to get home that night. 322 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:47,520 Shouldn't have been dragged. Yeah, why are you? 323 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,880 Why are you spending money on a hobby? 324 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,000 If you needed the money to pay your house payment, why did you 325 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,360 go racing? This isn't this isn't your job. 326 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:58,040 You're not Dale Earnhardt out here trying to literally make a 327 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,200 living, you know? Yeah, and a couple things I'm 328 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,640 going to add to because every now and then I'll make my way 329 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,240 out to the casino, but if the casino just so happens to want 330 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,640 to pay me $100,000 and I have to make my way home with said cash. 331 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,320 Do you think I'm going to have a problem with that or do you 332 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,680 think I'm going to try to make my way home? 333 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,160 What what's the thing, Casey? I mean, am I going to say I 334 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,960 can't take $100,000 from you because everybody might know 335 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,080 that I made 100 grand and follow me home in this in this casino. 336 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:26,400 What do you think I'm going to do? 337 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:30,040 Hey man, I know, I know, you live in Texas, but everybody 338 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,160 else around you does too, is what I'm saying. 339 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,400 Hey man, true statement. True statement. 340 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,760 It is a A and is there a little bit of a risk to having that 341 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,280 much money? And honestly, this is so 342 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,400 hypothetical. I don't even know if the casino 343 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,440 would hand me 100,000 probably just give me a check, right? 344 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,400 So I'm, I'm just, I'm just saying what, what about 20 345 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,800 grand? Because I know they'll hand you 346 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,960 20 grand cash. I guarantee it. 347 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,680 They'll hand you 20 grand cash, right? 348 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,920 Look, I'm going home. I might ask for a room for the 349 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,000 night, but I'm still going home. What? 350 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,160 I'm going to spend the night and live at the casino from that 351 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,840 point forward. Because just because one person 352 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,960 wanted to follow me home the night he saw me want it, that'll 353 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,440 mean he going to sleep in his car and wait for me to pull out 354 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,440 that joker the next day. So what are we talking about 355 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,800 that? That's what I got to say about 356 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,000 that one. If you got that kind of money, 357 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,680 I'd just be holding a couple thousand in the air and saying, 358 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,240 hey, who wants to escort me? Right. 359 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,520 Give me, give me, give me some security real quick, right. 360 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,480 I understand it, but I don't understand that comment. 361 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,560 It's all good. To your point though, however, 362 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:37,440 about us GBR creators of this particular podcast, Open forum 363 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,960 is the way I would like to call it, live forum, whatever you 364 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,080 would like to call it. To your point about us being pro 365 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,080 promoter, I'm going to pull a pro promoter thought process 366 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,760 into the question now because I feel like this is probably more 367 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,360 relevant than what a lot of us drag racers actually pay 368 00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:59,280 attention to or or care to even think about because it doesn't 369 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,400 impact us. Hot checks, counterfeit money, 370 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:10,480 whatever the case may be, if you know that Jerry Lewis and Jerry, 371 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,760 if you exist, I'm sorry, I don't. 372 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,360 Maybe, maybe John Smith. John, if you exist, I'm sorry. 373 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,920 If you know that person wrote a hot check. 374 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:24,880 Should there be a running? Let's just call it a Facebook 375 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,800 page. I don't care how you put it out 376 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,000 there. Put it on a wanted poster like 377 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,000 they used to do back in the old Westerns. 378 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,680 You know what I mean? Should there be a correspondence 379 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,560 that said you took a hot check from a drag racer? 380 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,600 Go Casey. I mean, I don't see a problem 381 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,040 with that at the end of the day, if I feel like that's kind of 382 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,160 everybody protecting their own type thing. 383 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:54,640 I don't really see any issues with someone posting, posting 384 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,640 who not to do business with. You see that in small businesses 385 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,200 all the time all around the country. 386 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,320 I've been to all parts of this country. 387 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:07,240 You see that all the time. And if, why would you, why would 388 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,960 you want to allow somebody to do business with someone who is not 389 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:17,680 reliable in the, in the like, in the, in the simple aspect of 390 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,280 getting paid like you should, you should be, You know, that's 391 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,480 why I, I still just don't like the whole taking credit cards. 392 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,720 I understand the aspect of it because ultimately, you know, 393 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,160 it's kind of on the credit card company to an extent. 394 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,320 It takes disputes and all this type of stuff and to prove 395 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,080 someone was there and that they did in fact run the credit card 396 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,080 and whatnot. You're basically guaranteed your 397 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,840 money. You're also having fees 398 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,800 associated with it and things like that. 399 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,040 But I just feel like with racing personally, I don't understand 400 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,320 why it's not cash in the gate. Like, I don't even, I don't 401 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,600 know, I, I saw a guy also that he said well cards because I 402 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,360 couldn't fit the word credit cards or again, it made it into 403 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:05,960 like a novel or whatever. But by cards, I mean credit 404 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,600 cards, debit cards. I feel like that is literally 405 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,360 electronic cash. Not a big deal. 406 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:15,200 You put your PIN number in, then that's just good as cash because 407 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,200 it's either going to decline or whatever. 408 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,840 But realistically, a lot of these, a lot of these promoters 409 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,280 would save themselves by just saying, look, man, we only, we 410 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,960 only accept cash. It is what it is. 411 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,880 And I don't think anybody would would not go because of that 412 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,560 because if they had the money, then they would give the money. 413 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,000 But it goes back to your comment about. 414 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,000 That much money on site being robbed, whatever the. 415 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,640 Case well, well, not even that because I don't think it's an 416 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,520 issue of the on site thing because if they accept cash, I 417 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,200 don't have any issue with promoter issuing me a check 418 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,960 because it is very rare that that would ever be an issue. 419 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,560 And anybody in this situation, a lot of times it's going to be 420 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:02,560 from a reputable type of a of a promoter or or straight from the 421 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,960 track or whatever. The thing that you would run 422 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,360 into it, of course, at that point would be counterfeit 423 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:12,480 bills, which I think they're getting like it's not 20 years 424 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,320 ago or 30 years ago. They're getting harder and 425 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,800 harder and harder to reproduce. And that's a federal crime. 426 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,800 And like, I don't feel like you're going to go racing on 427 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,920 fake $100 bills, you know? Yeah, I agree with that 100% 428 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,040 man. And, and, and to the to the 429 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,400 whole thought process of making a register. 430 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:34,600 Absolutely, there should be some type of a, a location where 431 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,640 promoters, even if it's private to promoters, you can go and you 432 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,680 can see, you know, I've, I've dealt with this particular drag 433 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,560 racer and he didn't pay me what he said he was going to pay me 434 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,440 or he, he hit me with a hot check or, or whatever the case 435 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,520 may be. And in that way, you're, you're 436 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,040 kind of protecting the promoter side of the game as well. 437 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,600 Just another layer of protection. 438 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,240 I don't feel like that that's a negative. 439 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,400 And then at the same time, I feel like those, those who are 440 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,360 doing said, said ignorance should be put on blast quite a 441 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,000 bit. So if you don't want to keep it 442 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,480 private, then don't because I feel like all those drag racers 443 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,480 want to know anyway. It's good. 444 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,080 It's a good thought process out of that post for sure. 445 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,760 I'm trying to think, it seemed like the consensus if I had to, 446 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,960 to kind of run an analysis on this particular post KC, the 447 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,240 majority of us racers want to be paid before we leave the track. 448 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600 I fall in line with that with that notion. 449 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:40,000 I don't want to wait on a check to come in the mail just because 450 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,920 that's not how I paid you. That's right, that's just the 451 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,920 way it is. Where'd all the money go right, 452 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,080 where'd the money go? You know, and I see AI see Jim, 453 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,520 Jim Cornett looks like over here in the YouTube chat says any 454 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,800 have any promoters paid with an app like Venmo or PayPal? 455 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:01,320 That's an interesting that's an interesting thing right there. 456 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,640 I guess you could add Zelda, all that also. 457 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,760 I don't know man, I've never heard of that happening. 458 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,080 I don't know if there's limits on what you can pay, presumably. 459 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,520 I know PayPal and Venmo, they have a business only style 460 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,400 account, so presumably that would not be an issue as far as 461 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,920 limits go. And if there was a issue with 462 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,000 limits, then I would think that would just need to be backed by 463 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000 a bank account and you can have all that solved. 464 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,040 That's an interesting thought. Yeah, not to mention, yeah, 465 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,400 absolutely, Jim. Not to mention the option to 466 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,640 turn on unlimited payment for said day and it only lasts for 467 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,880 2448 hours. Whatever the case may be, it 468 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,800 really would eliminate quite a bit of problem if you ask me. 469 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,160 From a promoter stance, from a from a, you know, fee for 470 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,000 service type of stance. PayPal accounting. 471 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,240 You got your accounting. Sir, register right there. 472 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,600 PayPal, Venmo, Cash app, that's cash right now, right? 473 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,440 So it does help. Here's a question I have. 474 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,480 And there I thought of this because of the whole Venmo and 475 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,360 all that stuff. I've seen people on the Internet 476 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:13,360 and I don't know, I don't know whether this is truthful or or 477 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:15,280 what the case is not an accusation. 478 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:20,440 But I wonder personally, I know there are people who they'll 479 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,480 write down like a fake Social Security number or fake address 480 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,560 or fake name or whatever it to get their check or, you know, 481 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,040 whatever the case may be trying to hide it from the IRS. 482 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,520 Are some of these people not getting paid because they 483 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,200 haven't filled out those forms? That's what I wonder. 484 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,920 And I posted that I want to say in one of these, one of these 485 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,360 comments that were going all over the Internet and I never 486 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,760 got a response to it. And that makes me wonder like, 487 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,560 are you not getting paid because you haven't done what you're 488 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,880 supposed to do to get paid? You know, and I don't know, like 489 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,280 I said, I don't know, maybe it's just taking all this time and 490 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,720 whatever the case may be, but I wonder that and nobody responded 491 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,080 to me, so I don't know the answer. 492 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,000 Yeah, yeah. No, no, I like it. 493 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,480 And before we go to commercial, I'm going to take one more 494 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,640 comment out of the chat here. This one out of Tom Wooten. 495 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,120 He says he likes to get pizza after he races. 496 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,520 Pretty dope. I might have to follow up with 497 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,400 that myself if I'm at XRP. I'm getting chicken wings, 498 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,800 though. It is what it is. 499 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,640 They're just good. Sorry. 500 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:29,560 Anyway, it says also with putting the racers on blast, it 501 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,920 also lets other racers know not to deal with them if we're 502 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:38,200 trying to make a deal for parts or other services. 100% right, 503 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,600 because if you'll hand a hot check at a drag strip, then 504 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,160 you'll lie and say that that engine has parts that it really 505 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,640 doesn't have in it. You knew that check was hot 506 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,120 before you handed that joker in there to me 90% of the time to 507 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,120 say Kevin Hart stand up comedy where you have to tell somebody 508 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,880 your bank account wasn't set up that way. 509 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,800 It ain't that man. You know what I'm saying? 510 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,440 So stop writing them hot checks because it's happening. 511 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,360 I know for a fact it's happening. 512 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,800 I know there's people with a a register of hot checks that they 513 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,880 just probably will never get the money back from. 514 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,400 Stop doing that. We got to protect our sport. 515 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,160 You know what I'm saying? When while we do that protecting 516 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,280 our sport, we're going to go to a commercial break. 517 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,240 I'll let you guys get a few words from our marketing 518 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,320 partners. Don't go anywhere like and 519 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,400 share. We'll be right back. 520 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,160 Go. To the burnout box, tailgate, 521 00:30:29,280 --> 00:31:15,510 talking about All right, all right, Welcome 522 00:31:15,510 --> 00:31:16,750 back. Welcome back. 523 00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:18,750 Told you it wasn't going to take you too long. 524 00:31:19,030 --> 00:31:22,430 Special shout out to everybody out there in the GBR community 525 00:31:22,430 --> 00:31:25,230 for being with us today. 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But they help us keep them all. 535 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,040 So TSR Ken Jones, performance crew chief, pro driven racing, 536 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:02,960 oil mid state Dragway team, 14 Motorsports, Proform parts, 537 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,800 Gearhead solutions, those boys over at your ad here. 538 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,080 That's just Casey and George, right? 539 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,600 But if you want to join in on the marketing partnership that 540 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,840 we're able to offer to the going bracket racing community, feel 541 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,760 free to hit us up goingbracketracing@gmail.com. 542 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,000 Going bracket racing on Facebook, Going bracket racing 543 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,480 on YouTube. I'm George S Casey, you can find 544 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,480 this, right? But definitely Casey, we're 545 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,800 going to keep going. Definitely have a lot more to 546 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,160 get into, which would be what I consider the meat of today's 547 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,640 episode. A post that you made call better 548 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,960 or worse and within this post you adds you add some verbiage, 549 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,560 right? It says what's 1 change you've 550 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,600 seen in bracket racing over the last 10 years that has made the 551 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,320 sport better and one that you've seen that's made it worse? 552 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:02,760 Let's go, Casey, what you got? Well, I mean, I think the common 553 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,760 sense thing to say as far as better would be live streaming. 554 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,320 I, I think that live streaming, I think Motor Mania, I think 555 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,120 what you do with GBR media, you know, so on and so forth. 556 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,120 I think that's the best thing to ever happen to, to bracket 557 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,960 racing. I think that bracket racing was 558 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,000 on a decline until that happened and it got in front of so many 559 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,280 people and got so many more people pumped up to to even know 560 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,120 that events were going on at the same time. 561 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,440 I could go two different routes with this. 562 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,920 Number one, I could also say that the also the downfall is 563 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,880 the fact of live streaming and social media because it makes it 564 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,760 so much more difficult for promoters to do a good job and 565 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:53,360 it makes it so much harder for people who are racing because 566 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,200 everybody's learning from watching all these live feeds is 567 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,320 how everybody races. How'd they do that? 568 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,400 How do I, how do I do that? Let me learn how to do that 569 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,760 rather than go through the trial and error because they're, 570 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,720 they're seeing it. They don't have to come up with 571 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,480 an idea. They're just have to figure out 572 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,360 how that guy implemented his idea. 573 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:18,800 My personal worst thing would be, honestly, it would be the 574 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,760 fact that there are so many good cars and good parts 575 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,440 manufacturers and good everything out there that you 576 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,440 don't really have to go through again, trial and error anymore 577 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,639 of learning your combination or figuring stuff out. 578 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,760 You can have the tune a little bit wrong on certain things in 579 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,639 the car. Still going to be fast or it's 580 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,280 still not going to blow up or it's still not going to break. 581 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,120 It's still going to go reasonably dead on. 582 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,639 If I mean to be honest with you at this point. 583 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,760 If you have the money, like if you got the wallet in your 584 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,760 wallet can stand it. You call any of these main guys 585 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:01,440 right now, you call figure out how to get Jeff Sarah's phone 586 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,200 number, Steve Witherow's number, Chris Coletti's number, you 587 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,720 know, we go on and on Westbury's number, any of these, any of 588 00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:10,880 these big guys. And you say I want that car, 589 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,480 what's it take to buy it? You don't have to figure 590 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,600 anything out anymore. They already got it figured out 591 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,720 for you. Corey Galetti just sold, sold 592 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:23,240 that gold digger car that he won probably $500,000 in as far as 593 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,840 you know, not splitting the big checks up or whatever. 594 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,720 I'm sure it was at least that value. 595 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:36,200 And guess what I, I want to say, I think 80% of all people who, 596 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:39,160 who legitimately go racket racing every single weekend are 597 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,200 capable of winning the race. Maybe 10% of those people have 598 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,800 the car that is also capable of winning that race. 599 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,160 And then of those 10 percent, 5% of the people are going to avoid 600 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,280 the Scotty Richardson land mines is what he always called them, 601 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,520 where they just throw down some wild run out of nowhere and 602 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,720 you're 7 total and they're 6 total and you lose. 603 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,560 But the fact of the matter is, is a lot of that stuff can be 604 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,200 bought anymore. And I don't think it takes as 605 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,640 much testing and learning. I think you can, you can call 606 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,480 someone on the phone. You can call a, a Will Holloman 607 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,800 and say I, I want to, I don't care what it costs. 608 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,320 I want the baddest car around. I want, I want it to look nice. 609 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,480 I want it to be perfect. And he'll go race it for you for 610 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,680 a while and say, hey, here we go. 611 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,480 It's ready to go. You know it's going to repeat. 612 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,040 If you lose the race, it's your own fault. 613 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,640 So I would say that's one of honestly that could, that could 614 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,360 both be considered the best and worst thing to happen to the 615 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,400 sport. Yep, I'm going to take it a 616 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,080 little further and maybe you'd even take it back a little bit 617 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:48,520 further in time where if you were to, you know, kind of go 618 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,240 through our archives on right here on Going Bracket Racing. 619 00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,640 Look at the interviews that we've gone through on this 620 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,400 particular show and that answer to the first question that we 621 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,720 always ask, how did you get into bracket racing? 622 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:09,240 99.9% of those racers with champ, I know you're in here 623 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:12,600 champ, Champ, you might be The only exception to what I'm 624 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,200 saying right now, right? Everybody else got into this 625 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:21,360 sport by way of their parent or uncle or somebody in their 626 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,520 family getting them started. Now I said all that to, to get 627 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,720 here. The better part to me about our 628 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:34,480 sport is also live, live feed. I got a comment in the Facebook 629 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,360 chat right here that says you get to watch your family members 630 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,120 from miles and miles and across the country, across the the dark 631 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,640 on oceans if you want to. We got people chiming in from 632 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,880 Australia half the time, you know, So that part is huge 633 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,920 because even when I did leave the bird nest or whatever you 634 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,760 want to call it, I was able to watch my dad, my uncle continue 635 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,920 to compete and learn from afar at the same time. 636 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,600 But I, I continue to say what's making it better. 637 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,600 And everybody's like, well, anybody can just buy any parts 638 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,080 you really want to buy or go buy out a race car or, or buy this 639 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,840 person's whole operation and, and go win. 640 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:19,160 The majority of us are already there without having to go buy 641 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,520 somebody else's stuff because we've got 30 and 40 years worth 642 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,200 of experience who we've watched our entire life. 643 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,760 So I started watching drag racing when I was five. 644 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,640 I started going to the track when I was five years old, 645 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,600 picking up on certain nuances and certain thought processes. 646 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,480 And now I'm getting older. Now I understand those things 647 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,800 and I can keep things and ask the right question to get more 648 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,040 data. Those things are what's made my 649 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:53,680 racing program better already. So I I say that to combat the 650 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,080 what's made drag racing worse being the grid system alone. 651 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,640 Like I understand that the grid is a very, very intricate piece. 652 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,560 The the race pack, the the drive shaft sensors, all those things 653 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,440 are extremely intricate. But I still think there are mad 654 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,880 scientists out there too. Where you do got to give a 655 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,440 little bit of credit case where your thoughts? 656 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,760 Well, like I've said for hundreds of episodes and now I 657 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,960 can say that hundreds of episodes now, the the Grid is 658 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,440 nothing compared to fuel tech, Holly Motech, all the hall tech, 659 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,440 all that stuff that they got going on now. 660 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,640 So I always think it's funny and I laugh to myself every time 661 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,400 people complain about the grid because they don't like, that's 662 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,120 nothing compared to what they're usually complaining about. 663 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,120 It's like you don't even know what can actually be done here. 664 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,680 However, again, it you know, is it, is it good or bad? 665 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,720 Because is it how many people wouldn't be racing right now if 666 00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:59,320 they didn't have the opportunity to to have it be easier than it 667 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,120 even was 20 years ago? Dude like I've been I got out of 668 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,640 junior dragsters and started driving like a super comp style 669 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:12,520 dragster. In like 2002 or 2003, man, like 670 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,560 over 20 years ago, like we're going on 25 years. 671 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,280 And I know back then a lot of my success early was due to the 672 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,160 fact that my dad had already figured a lot of that stuff out. 673 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,040 My dad was one of the smarter guys that that knew how to build 674 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,760 motors, knew how to build cars, knew knew how to tune motors. 675 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,120 And when he didn't know how to do something new, the right 676 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,320 people to figure out how to do something properly or could 677 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,640 figure it out himself if no one else knew. 678 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,160 And that's why that's why a lot of like when I really came out, 679 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,680 you know, I was one of the first guys to come out and really 680 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,320 start coming out junior dragsters and getting after it, 681 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,040 at least in the Midwest area. Brad Gephardt was literally the 682 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,520 year after me. Travis Poor was the year after 683 00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:01,040 me as the same same scenario. But the fact of the matter is 684 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:07,000 how many young guys these days have the I don't want to say 685 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,960 ability and I don't want to say knowledge, but just the the 686 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,400 stamina. I guess. 687 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:18,200 If they couldn't come out and at least be competitive to take all 688 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,240 the Hard Knocks and get beat down and lose first round and 689 00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:24,880 buy back and lose second round and be like, dude, do that for 690 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,640 like a year and a half, two years before you finally start 691 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,560 making progress. Like, has it made the sport 692 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,560 better that there are so many good companies and so many good 693 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,560 parts and so many good cars that you can literally, as long as 694 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,520 you can save the money and you can afford to do it, you can 695 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,080 bolt it on your car and you can be competitive as well. 696 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,200 Is that not what bracket racing's all about? 697 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,120 Yeah. And, and it's it's tough too, 698 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,840 because I feel like you and I may have talked about this time 699 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,040 or two before, but I remember I'm Back to the future. 700 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,760 And I can't remember which one it was, but old Marty McFly was 701 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,240 riding around on a pink hoverboard and it was just 702 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,520 hovering above the ground. He was rolling out dude, you 703 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,840 know what I mean. Riding behind the truck. 704 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,680 Riding behind that truck, any or, or or trying to jump over 705 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,960 Biff and Biff hitting that doggone manure truck. 706 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,520 You know how many times that man hated manure, right? 707 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,640 But all I'm trying to get at is we doing half that stuff now. 708 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,960 So how do we expect for technology? 709 00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:20,360 Heck, you get in a Tesla and go to sleep that joke or drive you 710 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,320 wherever you want to go. And if there's a emergency 711 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,120 vehicle coming up behind you, guess what? 712 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,880 It can hear the sirens and it'll pull over to the side of the 713 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,960 road. That's getting it done. 714 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,880 You know, I'm waiting on them to be able to detect better speed 715 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,280 zones. I bet you they're already doing 716 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,440 that too, right? Because of maps, right? 717 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,120 But what I'm getting at is we're going to evolve as a sport, 718 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,920 right? It's turning into the car is 719 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,360 better than the driver. It is what it is. 720 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,920 It is what it is. Stay out of the way of your car. 721 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,640 Someone told me this weekend. Thank you for that advice by the 722 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,680 way, I didn't quite listen to it. 723 00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:00,520 Failed. I failed, but but stay out of 724 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,320 the way of your car and you'll be fine. 725 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,520 Case man, it's it's it's a great question. 726 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,240 It's a great thought process to have. 727 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,080 We need evolution in this sport either way it goes right? 728 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,680 If we want to get, if we get to a point to where it's too much, 729 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,760 then let's as a sport start banning stuff. 730 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,320 Last thing last, last I heard you can restrict certain items, 731 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,960 restrict it to the seven AL 2 then, if that's what you want to 732 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,280 do, right? I don't really know if that's 733 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,360 the answer to the question because it's still going to be 734 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,440 some really good. I have a 7AL2 in my car and it's 735 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,680 a good race car. And that's that isn't because 736 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,080 the grid works with that, it piggybacks on that. 737 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:47,480 My fuel tax, dude, my Chevelle has A7AL2IN it like and it runs 738 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,720 off fuel tech stuff. I mean, it's it's and at the end 739 00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:54,000 of the day, it wouldn't matter anyway because those companies 740 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,040 would just adapt to it. Like if you want to run them off 741 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,200 6 AL, they'll figure out how to run them off 6 AL. 742 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,560 It doesn't matter, man. It's it's easier and easier than 743 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,960 ever. We have smarter and smarter 744 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,560 people than than we ever have. If anybody wants to do 745 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,160 something, they're going to do something. 746 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,520 Ultimately, I think it's OK. We got to go to worse, right? 747 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,400 I'm, I'm just going to flip the script straight to worse because 748 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,920 as we're I'm looking at this clock in, we're going to have to 749 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,480 do a Part 2 if we don't keep it moving. 750 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,400 But I want to talk about big money bracket racing and the 751 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,160 thought of double entries being in the worst column currently. 752 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,240 There's a lot of those people commented that. 753 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,800 Well, and, and rightfully so man. 754 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,440 And I, I understand what we have to do from a promoter's 755 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,760 perspective to be able to put on these mega bracket races. 756 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:46,160 You got to offer double S but one thing that. 757 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,440 I pay more $50,000 to win otherwise. 758 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,960 I got to strike down the notion that a no box car because one 759 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,280 other thing we can say on this post is that a a a positive was 760 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,560 the ability for the no box racer to compete against the top bulb 761 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,040 racer. I've seen it a multiple times. 762 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,880 If that be the case, how is it that we'll allow a no box racer 763 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,240 to enter box and no box double entered? 764 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,080 That's four hits. You are at a serious 765 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,440 disadvantage if somebody's getting four hits around, 766 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,800 especially if that person gets in a groove. 767 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:27,000 You are in the early rounds. I mean, I think that was a 768 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,520 loophole that was closed. I don't know it's 5. 769 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,560 Years ago, something like that. I don't know if it's closed. 770 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,680 I've seen it I'm. Saying I'm saying in the major 771 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,120 races like maybe locally that's not the case. 772 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,720 In fact, obviously locally that would not be the case 99% of the 773 00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:43,680 time I've. Seen double S in the 1st place. 774 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:51,480 Yep. Yeah, but as far as as far as a 775 00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:59,600 no box competitor being able to run so many entries and and box 776 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:05,040 and then no box, I personally feel like I don't. 777 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,400 I don't see really where that would be a problem because the 778 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,040 box racer would have an advantage in my opinion. 779 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:15,480 Now at the same time, and this was a wild deal, Andy Small 780 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,160 couple years ago, whenever he won the Vegas million, he runs 781 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,200 through the no box category, comes back in the box category, 782 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,720 puts the box in and wins the race. 783 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,520 Now and there's no issue with that because what like I saw a 784 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,480 lot of people on the Internet that were complaining. 785 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,760 Well, he was a no box competitor. 786 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:34,960 Why'd you let him put the box in? 787 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,760 Well, first of all, he doesn't know where the box supposed to 788 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,400 be at. He's been running no box. 789 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,680 First of all, Andy Small does because he's Andy small and I'm 790 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,640 sure he was entered in box earlier that day. 791 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,560 But it's like wait a minute. So you mean because he ran no 792 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,840 box, which allows him to fall into box, he should be at a 793 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,360 disadvantage because he shouldn't be allowed to put his 794 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,680 delay box in the car? That that makes no sense. 795 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,960 We're not we're not allowing A dragster to randomly go into the 796 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,920 door car category or something. And side note, he was in a door 797 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,520 car, obviously no box category. I mean, this dude was at the 798 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,680 most disadvantaged, still ran through everybody. 799 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,560 So I don't understand why that was even thought to be an issue. 800 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,520 But it does go back to what PJ N told me earlier this week. 801 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,760 Again, like I was, I was saying earlier in the show, it's like 802 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,280 some people, it's like, man, you don't have any business even 803 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,400 commenting on this. Like, what are you, what are we 804 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,360 talking about here? Like this wasn't even what the 805 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,800 subject was about. Sure. 806 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:39,800 But yeah, I don't even remember what we were talking about right 807 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,280 now. I go off on tangents at. 808 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,480 Times it. Was 239 episodes. 809 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,280 You all should know that by now. It's your own fault. 810 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,000 As we keep it moving, Casey and and and probably stay with with 811 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,160 better. There is and and to remain 812 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,800 neutral, there is a promoter out there. 813 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,720 This is how I'm going to do it. OK, I don't want to ruffle any 814 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,480 feathers with this one. There's a promoter out there who 815 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,320 made bracket racing on the big money scale leaps and bounds 816 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,440 better. If you know what I'm talking 817 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,720 about in the chat. Go ahead and leave your comments 818 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:16,240 if you don't. Thank you to the promoters 819 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:19,000 because you guys got better. You guys got a lot better at 820 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,280 what you're doing. The Flyers are a lot more 821 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,880 thought outlook at that flyer, that mid state flyer jumping up 822 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,240 behind Casey right now. You know what I'm saying? 823 00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:28,240 Look at that round money starting to come into these 824 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:31,320 events where it's like, hey, we understand you guys spend a lot 825 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,360 of money to come race with us. You could be out on the lake 826 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,800 because a lot of us drag race to sell our race cars to get boats. 827 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,440 I ain't never going to understand that. 828 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,960 Maybe a fishing boat or something, something small with 829 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,120 a little trolling motor in it and the rest of the money going 830 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,440 to bank. I don't know, but shout out to 831 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,480 the promoters. You guys got better and continue 832 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,520 to get better and better and better as time goes on. 833 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,680 But there is one particular promoter that I'm going to 834 00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:03,600 definitely take a hat off to. Regardless of what happened in 835 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:08,640 the end, that promoter made competition relevant. 836 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,640 That's all I got and we needed that in this sport. 837 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,440 What you got? Yeah, yeah. 838 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,640 The at the end of the day, the fact that we have good promoters 839 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,720 and the fact that we have people willing to risk their 840 00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:27,120 livelihoods to literally put on a race. 841 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,040 And we shouldn't complain about the fact whenever these 842 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,080 promoters make a bunch of money, all they had, all these cars, 843 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,440 all they didn't get back to the racers. 844 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,160 Like, dude, you weren't going to give back to those promoters 845 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,160 whenever those promoters were losing their butts, you know, 846 00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:44,880 six months ago, like, and if or if they lost it at that race, 847 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,160 like maybe you didn't have the ability to do so either, but 848 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,240 maybe they didn't. You know, it's it's all a 849 00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:54,520 business and it is what it is. And if you feel like that 850 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:59,400 business is worth helping out or what however you want to, 851 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,000 however you want to see it, if it's worth going to, then go to 852 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,400 it and don't complain. And the checks, as long as the 853 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,480 checks cash, who cares? Who cares? 854 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,120 The promoter made money because at the end of the day, you went 855 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,200 to race for the flyer. If every single penny on the 856 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,320 flyer was paid, you have nothing to complain about. 857 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,640 I don't care if I don't care if you know, say it. 858 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,760 Say the whole flyer says they're going to pay $100,000 and let's 859 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,320 say they brought in $1,000,000. Well, you went to race for 860 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,840 $100,000, man, if all that 100,000 was paid, that promoter 861 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,520 doesn't owe you anything. And I think a lot of people have 862 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,880 some promoters are nice and they give money back to the racers 863 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,720 because they make so much money and good on them. 864 00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:47,720 But I don't think they're required to do so. 865 00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:50,000 And I don't think every promoter is required to do it just 866 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,720 because one promoter does it. But the fact of the matter is 867 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:56,360 it's like they're literally just helping you out whenever, 868 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,120 whenever they do something like that. 869 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,880 So if a promoter says they're going to start paying round 870 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,120 money at 4th round and they start paying it at third round 871 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,800 then tell them thanks and go on home man. 872 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,680 Like because you shouldn't have got anything. 873 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,040 Yep. No, I agree with that 100%. 874 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,080 And that's where I believe we have evolved. 875 00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:19,040 You know, we have race, we have promoters that say, hey, hey, 876 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,320 I'm going to pay back a little bit more money like wasting fuel 877 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,600 if they get there, if they get their their cap, they're putting 878 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,560 more money into the pot. So one thing I will comment, and 879 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,480 I don't know if this is real because I don't have the exact 880 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,480 numbers. Where you guys at in Southern 881 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,360 Illinois, man? Cuz I'm not hearing much about 882 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,720 the entries on that waste and fuel race. 883 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,360 That should particularly be almost full if I have to be 884 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,080 honest. That's going to be a good event 885 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,880 for your area. I'd really hate to see that 886 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,400 event go. Go elsewhere. 887 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:54,480 I-57, what is, is, was and will always be near and dear to Casey 888 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,800 and George. And Dang it, we got to keep, we 889 00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,720 got to keep the participation up in that area. 890 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,240 I'm going to throw that out there. 891 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,280 But I said that just because that is a promoter who's coming 892 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,720 up, who are a group of drag racers who will put back, even 893 00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:10,640 though they said we're only going to run for this much 894 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,800 money, they'll put it back on their flyer and there's a few 895 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,320 others who do it. That's all better for this 896 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,960 sport, all of it. Side note, Speaking of I-57 drag 897 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,440 strip, again, going back to the guy I was talking to, Ion 898 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,280 suspension over there. Weird. 899 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,600 You know, he was originally from the Midwest. 900 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:29,880 I was originally from the Midwest. 901 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,560 So you know how that goes. Just short story here, you know, 902 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,680 then you start trying to figure out, oh, you know this guy, you 903 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,320 know that guy, obviously he knows Gateway and obviously I 904 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,000 know Andy and stuff like that. So we start talking. 905 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,400 Well, then finally he goes, did you know, I 57? 906 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,240 I said, dude, I like, I basically grew up at I-57. 907 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,040 And then we start talking about all this stuff and turns out 908 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,000 he's like a year or two older than me. 909 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,840 And I'm like, dude, we're like, it's, it's wild how how that all 910 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,880 works out. But it's like I told Champ 911 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,640 earlier, I asked him, I said, by the way, we got to say 912 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,320 congratulations to Dylan Champion, because he's finally 913 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,320 decided after all these years to actually get married jumping. 914 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,160 Over the brave. Stick yeah even though he's even 915 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:18,720 though he's lived with the same his soon to be wife for since 916 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:21,040 I've known him so he's. Basically already married. 917 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,240 Hey, Casey, get him fired up and get him to the altar, baby, 918 00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:28,360 because Jim's getting married. I do know, I do know an inside 919 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,840 scoop that I'm not going to say that is going to be like the 920 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,960 coolest wedding photo of all time, though. 921 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,920 But anyway, I'll wait. I'll wait for that to come out. 922 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,360 You know how all that stuff goes. 923 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,960 But it I, I will assure you, I will assure everybody that's 924 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,640 listening to this show that when Dylan Champion gets married in 925 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,560 September that you will see literally the world's coolest 926 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,720 wedding photo of all time. I'm just putting it out there. 927 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,560 That's pretty dope. That's pretty dope. 928 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,320 Now, Casey, that was a pretty, pretty well thought out post 929 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,000 that you made too, because it's about time. 930 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,240 It's midway through the year. We generally always do some type 931 00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:11,040 of a temperature check on where we feel like drag racing is or 932 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:17,040 bracket racing is for the year. This is a good time to even look 933 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,240 at it from a little bit broader of a perspective. 934 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,200 Do I think that bracket racing is harder than it was years 935 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,680 back? I do. 936 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:30,120 I do because cars are better. But at the same time, I don't 937 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,680 because I think drivers just had a whole lot more. 938 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,720 I don't know, I don't really know the right word to say, But 939 00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:41,560 when they come out, they're coming for your neck and they 940 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,880 will. Especially growing up where we 941 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,640 grew up, KC and D3I, all I know is we had a lot of really good 942 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,120 drag racers out there and week in week out, it was a gauntlet 943 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,120 even back then. So it wasn't hard to hear sub, 944 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,400 you know, double O 9 packs backed in, you know what I mean? 945 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,680 So. Oh, dude, you remember all that 946 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,840 time where Jim Simmons always said Radical Rich? 947 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,520 Remember Radical Rich? Oh yeah, our announcer at 948 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:14,480 Gateway, he always said he's like, the problem is radicals up 949 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,000 there on the microphone constantly announcing all these 950 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,840 reaction times and then all these guys think they need to be 951 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,600 doing this, that and the other. And then and and he is right and 952 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,480 again, and it goes into, you know, GBR media and motor mania 953 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,680 and stuff. That's what Ryan Glakehorn, 954 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,520 first thing he's going to say. It is nasty. 955 00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:35,480 You know, like that's first thing he's going to say. 956 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:41,280 And but it is though it is he's not lying and it is more often 957 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,880 than not anymore. So it's cool. 958 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,520 It's it's both one of those things that's cool and it sucks 959 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,200 at the same time. Depends on which side of the 960 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,520 sword you're on. But that being said, in the 961 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,680 last, what we've been doing this six years now, we have literally 962 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,760 been through one of the biggest downfalls as far as what should 963 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,440 have killed racing since we were kids, which would have been the 964 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,920 recession. And it's got bigger every single 965 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,240 year, man. I mean it. 966 00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:12,040 It just keeps getting bigger. The promotions keep getting 967 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,600 bigger, the checks keep cashing. And at the end of the day, man, 968 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,720 it who's to say that things are not good right now? 969 00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:22,960 Because I see it all the time. I see negative comments all the 970 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,920 time on any of these questions. Somebody will always say, oh, 971 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,760 this is going to happen. All that's going to happen. 972 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,720 Well, it hasn't, man. And guess what? 973 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,160 There's no reason to just sit here and wait for it to happen 974 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,000 because you need to do what's cool right now, why you have the 975 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,160 chance. Because if you're going to sit 976 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,800 here and let it all waste away, then you're going to say those 977 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,920 were the good times and you didn't participate. 978 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,760 So get in while you can, you know, because right now it's 979 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,720 good. You got to get in. 980 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,880 We're having fun. Either way you look at it, it is 981 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,360 Hard Out Here. It is, it is, and that is what 982 00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:58,920 it is. I don't. 983 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,560 I don't really care how you look at it. 984 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,240 You go to these big money races, you expect to see multiple 985 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,240 double O packs? Multiple. 986 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,720 Yeah, maybe you're one of the ones who are laying down the 987 00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:15,040 double O packs, you know what I mean? 988 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,320 But it's just the way. It's just sport, guys. 989 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,320 It's just a sport. I'm not trading this sport for a 990 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,040 boat anytime soon, guys. Anytime soon. 991 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,520 So whoever is doing that. That'll cost just as much money 992 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,800 as that race car. You are a doggone right about 993 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,760 that, Casey, you know, and but as we come to a close man, 994 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,520 special shout out to everybody who's making comments on both 995 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,400 sides. I know we missed a few as we 996 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,840 continue to move through this as it is an important topic. 997 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,160 Don't forget guys to keep supporting those promoters 998 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,120 because one of these topics out of Lawrence or comments out of 999 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:54,080 Lawrence Curry specifically cause out the racer who does 1000 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,800 this as a hobby. All right. 1001 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,120 And without us racers, motors really don't have nothing to 1002 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,680 promote. So you guys keep it up, continue 1003 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,000 to support those promoters out there who are giving us those 1004 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,920 races to go to so that those promoters can continue to 1005 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,240 support our hobbies. Casey, man, what you got? 1006 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,680 What you got closing. Well, I guess we can answer one 1007 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,400 question real quick for Austin Day over here. 1008 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,360 What's the reason you guys moved out of D3? 1009 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,920 Well, George technically still lives in D3, I'm pretty sure. 1010 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,120 Unless he's D5 now technically. Yeah, I'm not in D3. 1011 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,920 No more big dog. But I want to So anyway, the 1012 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,920 reason we left is because we were from one of those states 1013 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,360 that. Girls. 1014 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,920 Well, no, that's you. How left otherwise? 1015 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,760 George got married. That's why he left. 1016 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,440 Oh, the but he moved to Texas, which is freedom land. 1017 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,840 And we did not live in freedom land essentially. 1018 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,720 So we lived in one of those corrupt areas. 1019 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,640 So we had to leave. We had no choice. 1020 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,520 But that's how we ended up where we are. 1021 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,360 And that's that's why we're doing this show. 1022 00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:01,200 His. Chances are if me and George 1023 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,080 live by each other or the show, I mean, maybe it would happen, 1024 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,120 but we'd be hanging out anyway. We invented this show so we 1025 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,520 could hang out and have an excuse to hang out, and y'all 1026 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,320 benefit from that. I heard that, man, Basically 1027 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,200 what we were doing over the phone, we're not doing on the 1028 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,280 camera with a mic. That's basically what it is, 1029 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,760 man. So as always, special, special 1030 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,720 shout out to everybody who's here with us. 1031 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,000 Shout out to those marketing partners. 1032 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,280 Make sure you guys get out to the racetrack. 1033 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:32,800 I expect to see quite a few out there at XRP and hopefully we 1034 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,880 can pack that place out. Show the Pennington some love 1035 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,560 putting on yet another super Buck showdown. 1036 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,360 I can't wait to see who wins the Beckle the Buckle this time. 1037 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,240 And who knows, maybe I'll tap O Jake Howard on the shoulder soon 1038 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,200 to get him on the show. I feel like he'd be a real good 1039 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,760 guest to talk to Casey in and I know he'd be down and do it. 1040 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:57,080 So here we go, another episode. We'll see you next week for 1041 00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,960 episode 240. Peace out like a chair. 1042 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,880 Be safe out there. That rhymed.