Well, good evening and welcome to this week's Speedway Tavern,
myself, Chris Brown, the one and only MacBook.
Good evening. And.
And the empty chair in front of me.
And of course, not GI, he should be joining us very, very
shortly. So what's?
The company fine for the lightness listen.
Just can't get this stuff. I mean, after 15 years, you'd
think you'd remember. Well, you'd think so, but he's
just never mind. But as I say, GI should be
joining us very, very shortly. Yeah, Yeah, I think we've got a
bit to bit to talk about, especially this.
We have well at the moment obviously as you know, the first
leg of the championship semi final between Paul and Red Car
is underway at the moment and it's been very nip and tuck so
far. We've got it on on the industry
and it was Paul 15 Red Car 9. But the bears are currently I
think is it a 51 there or not? Just a good look.
Yes, they are. They're on A51.
So Reg are going to claw it back to just two points down to a
Wimborne Rd. So very close first leg so far.
Of course this was the one that was supposed to be being staged
last week. But of course the rain as it has
been on quite a few times over the last week has intervened.
So we will be keeping a close tabs on the on that one.
Yeah, the the rain seems to have played a part in the playoffs.
It certainly does. It's, it's just a frustrating
thing or there's a not pulling apart.
So I think the I think the the manager's office turned up, but
no, it's it's been frustrating really over the last few, last
few meetings because the place has obviously all been set in
stone for for scheduling and the rain has has intervened.
Yeah, Ben, Ben's right. You do need a lot of.
Replacement. I think so.
I mean, he's on a low. Average unfortunately, so we
have to we've we can't be a bit you can get really but.
Apparently you can't get a lower average than that, so.
Yeah, it's about an assessed 2 I think or something like that.
So. Speaking of below average.
Stop talking about it though. Is it so?
Are you doing all right? Go on, get your beans on and so
I'll sort about it. Hello everyone.
We started. Yeah, we have.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've made your apologies.
Don't worry. OK?
Yeah, sorry. I had what can only be described
as a decorating accident. I'm not going any further.
Than that that's OK. Oh, OK, She saw a pot of pot of
pints at you. Yeah.
Something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Something involving my son. That's all right.
OK. Let's just, yeah, yeah.
It's not in my good books. Let's put it that one.
Been said about something. Calm.
Yeah, so I thought you could spend this, spend an hour with
us then. So calm yourself down.
So where? Where are we?
We just we just actually started to open show and Ben's Ben and.
Ben said we need a Rod reply. Yeah, yeah.
So. We've just obviously.
Been nobody good enough you couldn't afford them, Sorry.
Couldn't get anybody on a low enough, but we have just been
talking about this. So we've got the first leg of
the finally being. Of course, it's finally
happening after the rain off from last week.
Pool against red car, nip and tuck so far.
Series of five ones between each times and it's currently 1614 in
favour of pool at the moment. Interesting, keeping it tight.
Pretty class. I think red car will will really
want to keep it class when they, you know, pool have got a
tremendous record at Wimborne Rd.
I think Ray Carl lost their by 12 earlier in the season.
So they I think they'll probably want something similar to to
that and certainly not any more than that.
I think to to to Ray Carl later next week.
We should talk about what a great job Edinburgh did.
I'm not sure I I personally think they've let Glasgow off
the hook a little bit at. The end of the meeting.
You know, I think I did watch the meeting.
I don't know whether you did. I'm not.
I wasn't able to. I can't even talk.
Yeah, I did. I did watch the meeting.
Yeah, it was, you know, again, Ryan affected.
Edinburgh were dominant in the early stages of the meeting.
They were. Glasgow's guising was absolutely
atrocious. Obviously Chris Harris is the
Glasgow #1 so I presume he was giving guiding lessons.
It was their guiding was that ball, but I think like Edinburgh
left the level hook a little bit, you know, 12, that's 14
points. Yeah, I think they would have
taken that at the beginning of the.
I think they would have taken it at the start but you know at one
point, at one point there were 20 points in front.
So I think they'll be the support that they've let the
local rivals get back in a little bit and Glasgow are more
than capable pull in that back of Ashfield.
Still makes it interesting although.
I think we've done OK at Ashfield this season.
The times they've been there, I mean, obviously they've been
quite a few times this season so.
And the other person we should congratulate, of course, the new
world champion, 6 times world champion Bartus.
Mosley, Yeah. He couldn't have done any more,
could he? Brady hurts.
Really. It's, it's crazy.
You think he's won. He's won 50% of the Grand Prix
this season and he still hasn't won the world championship.
Yeah, a lot of people are going to look at the Sprint races and
and things like that, but what's ultimately cost him was that
losing that chain. It's Prague, which obviously put
him out of the, the final in the Czech Grand Prix.
I think that's, that's the one that subsidy come back and beat
him in the end to, to be as dominant as he's been in the
second-half of the season and to miss out by one point.
You know, he took it very well to be fair.
But I think he, you know, as I've said last week, smiles like
I needed to finish second in the Grand Prix.
Even if smiled, it wouldn't take the title.
And again, it was a it's it's, it's the Grand Prix, as it's
been for much of the second-half of the season.
Easily the best 2 riders dominant to the rest of the
field and they were the best tier orders on on Saturday.
In terms of the meeting itself, the Foot saw the first day.
First day, it was tremendous and rubbing around.
And then it wasn't. Yeah.
You know, I don't know what it is with the JP track
preparation. It just seems to me at the
moment that they just seem to flood the track with water every
single track ride and it doesn't, it doesn't really help
the track, unfortunately. I've always been an advocate of
with the Grand Prix, they should just give the regular track
staff the job and it's really like you prepare the track as
you would prepare normally. So if you screw up it's on you.
But not not to sort of try and do it for them because at the
end of the day, the track stuff that these tracks know the best
way to have their tracks. You would think.
OK, so Paul, just been another
three all and it's another three all at the moment.
You think number six with Richard Lawson leading the way
for the Pirates. So that is still going to remain
2 points in that one. So that's the fact.
That's just a a rerun of heat number six.
So we're going to come into heat #7.
So as I say, we'll be keeping close tabs in this race you see
on this meeting during the course of the show.
There's a few few more things to talk about Harry Redknapp.
We've just. Been discussing that so.
Who knew we was going to be talking about Harry Redknapp?
Yeah. What?
What's what's people's thoughts on that?
Good thing, bad thing, indifference.
Can I, can I put you on it? I mean, I do know.
I've heard you've. Obviously met him a couple.
Of times yeah, he's I should say he's a bit of a dreamer, I.
Don't want to? I don't want to play on
anybody's parade, but I mean, it's got to be good for Speedway
because even even even now, like he's got people talking about
Speedway. So, I mean, he's probably done
the job, hasn't it? Well, if that, if that's if he
does that, then he has done the job.
But yeah, is is it the thing we need to be sorting out at the
moment? We need tracks.
We need tracks and. With the best rule in the world,
he's not going to be able to open new tracks, as they say.
I, I, I must say, nobody talking about plans on that.
You know, we, I mean individual clubs, yes, I know, you know, we
know Coventry's trying, we know that this thing's happening in
the Cradley world, etcetera, etcetera.
But there's no this is what we're going to try and do to
encourage tracks, encourage people to buy tracks, to get get
there. You must become to make Speedway
a wider sport. I, I have to say I did.
I did read his his press release.
So I don't for one minute believe he's written that.
OK, no, I don't you. Know I think the the wording of
it, it feels a bit like it's been done by on on AI, to be
honest. No more him, but and.
A regular at Paul. Sorry, Clive.
Yeah, although I've lost a lot of pool fans on them on the BSF
have said that they've never seen him there.
So unless he goes in disguise or something.
So, but you know, it's, it's got a few of the mainstream.
Yeah, yeah. You know there's.
One bit of public some of the vote, the national newspapers.
There's not. Pictures there's a certain
there's a certain sports based radio station in London news now
we. Want a bit of an accident I
think. We might mention who've been
talking about that. So yeah, at the end of the day,
we'll, we'll have to see what it what it brings.
You know, it's brought a little bit of publicity in the short
term, but long term is what speed do I need to try and get
itself sorted out? So we're just looking at the
first spending heat #7 I. Do agree what David said that it
does need to be back on mainstream TV.
Does need to be? Back on mainstream TV?
Yeah, absolutely. That would be huge, but I I
don't see any scope for it at the moment of things made.
For the BBC, isn't it because motor BBC, it used to be the
home of motor sports? Yeah.
They've got nothing. Got nothing.
No, no, Yeah. So.
That's right. He's got up and he's walking
away. That's good.
Just. First classic first bend instead
of that one. So yeah, trackless looks fairly
doesn't look like what's rain down there.
So he doesn't look particularly wet so so it isn't as wet as
Edinburgh was on Friday, so. Yeah, we seem to have got into a
big spell of wet weather at the moment, just at the wrong time,
but it still looks OK at Paula, the ground looks fine, so
they're. Still out for Peterborough
Panthers after the council meetings as Brian Racing.
Yeah, I did read that earlier. Sounds like, you know, there's
things that have have gone on there that sort of have gone not
gone through the correct protocol.
So I think it's still think it's, it's a long shot, but you
know, there's you know, it's still there or what's what's
left of the place. He's still there.
Obviously. I think the track is now has now
gone and of course the stadium is now derelict.
So we'll just have to see. It'd be great to see Speedo back
in, back in Peter Brook. It's a fact.
It was a fabulous race track. I mean, obviously you went to
Peter Brook couple of times, didn't you?
You left. Peter Brook, really good.
Racetrack. Hopefully there'll be something
to come with that, but we'll have to wait and see.
We should also mention Team GB. Congratulations one.
Is it the pairs? Wasn't it?
Yes. World long track champions name?
Oh yes. Yeah.
Where was that held? Oh, good question.
I hate you for France to ask. Grant me because I can't
remember, somebody out there will tell me was in the states
that. Was in the States.
No, no. It was in Europe, wasn't It was
in Europe, I think. Oh, right.
OK, was it might? Have been in France, I think.
Was it France? I think it's going to be.
France or Germany probably isn't it.
I did see. Clips of it, decent crowd at
all. Long track picks up good crowds,
but then it's it's a sort of it's a bit like stuck car race
and it's a once in A and a while.
So what's the difference? Between long track and and I bet
you. Can't guess from the from the
postal authority, just a long. Track is it?
Is it just one long track? It it's, it's it's not, it's a
Oval, but it's big. Yeah.
It's big, yeah. And I think they even have gears
on the bikes don't they do have 1st and 2nd I believe it used.
To be huge, it was huge, wasn't it a one time long track, you
know, every every top speed or I used to used to do long track as
well, didn't I? So, but it's really since the
emergence of the JP, the long track scene is sort of, you
know, gone back a little bit. So maybe maybe it's making a bit
of a comeback. So been a few.
British riders have won the thing, haven't there?
There's been, I think Peter Collins has won it.
Yeah, Calvin. Tyson won it three times.
I think Simon Wig obviously was the dominant, you know, God rest
his soul. He, I think he went five times,
didn't he didn't. The flying hairpin win it.
You, you, you don't get the regular blank there.
Michael Lee, Michael. Lee.
Yeah, I think Michael Lee, I'm not.
Sure, somebody out there will tell, will tell us or be might
just go so. I mean, I'm guessing they're
gonna they're gonna have special tracks as well.
Where are they? Where are they in this country?
We don't have. Any in this country we haven't.
Got any ice? Actually, France and Germany are
the the staples. Yeah, just just to confirm, Paul
Stott was excluded in in #7 he was a judge to have come off on
his own. So he's leaving currently at the
moment. That looks like it's going to be
another 3 all in that race #7 down the pool.
So. It's a tight old meeting.
Yeah, this will suit red car, I think.
Absolutely, absolutely suit red car.
They don't want to. I've got a few.
To go through comments through to go through on the chat box.
So let's see if we can let's see so Reginald Barker, the
$1,000,000 question is going to win the playoff final or presume
it means the Premiership. So well, we don't even know
who's in it yet. Do we know Ipswich are in
congratulations to them. It was a bridge too far from for
Bellevue as we thought it would be.
Yeah. It was, I don't know whether you
watched it, did you on on Thursday, so.
I've watched it since. Yeah, poor mate.
It wasn't really poor mate in Bellevue were never really in it
were they? Very wet track as well.
I think it was pretty clear. Certainly from Brady Curtis
point of view that he obviously had one eye on.
I think he probably had one eye on most of his second eye on on
Saturday to be fair. Didn't say it really seemed to
be taking any. Yeah, I think it was that sort
of track as well where you're going to get filled in.
Wet wasn't it? And you?
I suppose the last thing he wanted to be doing was was being
going off to going off to hospital 2 days before he was
due for a date of destiny. Possibly in Voyens.
As Rich Thomas says, at least he puts a bit more effort in the GP
than for Bellevue. I presume it means Brady Curt's
there. Yeah, it's understandable,
really, given the state of the the track.
I mean, the track was racable. Don't get me wrong.
It's typical October track, but if you get filled in, it's.
Understandable. But I think, you know, I think
certainly, I think if you were a Bellevue, if I need paid money
to go all the way down to it should you'd probably be told to
feel a little bit miffed, really so.
But he. Wasn't the only reason they
lost. You can't lay lay the blame on
totally on that doorstep. Yeah.
Brian Reese and said mildenall first meeting of the season this
Saturday. Better later than never.
It is lace lighting of September.
So Ben Creswell says he's going to be going to Mildenhall.
Rich Thomas says Speedway would go totally against the BBC
climate crisis agenda unless it was electric bikes.
Is that true? These got these things that not
run on petrol, they're run on methanol.
And as I understand it, the only product of side product of
methanol is water. So does it go again?
In fact, it would seem to me to totally go in line with pair.
Depends on how educated people are, I guess.
Well, I guess, but you know. Whatever happened to electric
bikes? I think that I thought was going
to be the next big thing I did. They're still.
Doing it, I'm still, they're still.
That's about 10 years ago. I remember I I personally think
it would be a good idea, but I know I'm in I'm in a minority of
1 manamana. I know I'm in a minority of one
on that one, but I just So what, let's get into that argument.
What people have said to me is that that that it wouldn't be
Speedway because you wouldn't have the noise.
And I say you've got to look at the positives of that.
Wouldn't be great to hear the riders talking to each other,
shouting to each other and saying you do you get up the
inside of it? Yeah.
And all of that. And, and you know, it would, it
would be, it wouldn't be Speedway as we know it now, but
it would be different. And maybe both could exist.
I don't know. But it would be, it would be an
interesting thing, I think that it's all going to.
Come down so I'm just having a battle to put this top OK, it's
it's all going to really come down to cost I guess as well,
isn't it? So if if you get to a situation
where E box work and they bring down the cost, cost singing
speed, right, then you've got to be looking at it.
So and people talk about talk about the noise.
I mean the box are a lot quieter now than the word anyway really
with the the new silences so. Brian Reese's asked us what do
we think of witches versus Bellevue last Thursday.
I believe we've answered that question.
It was a. Question professional jobs of
Ipswich, but Bellevue didn't really put them.
They didn't, really. Turn up did that no I.
Don't. I think I've got the impression
really from the first leg Bellevue fit.
I think it was pretty clear Bellevue didn't really feel
they'd done enough in the first leg and.
I didn't imagine it, Phil Taylor says.
Michael Lee won the world long track final in 1981.
There you go. We haven't asked the answer, the
question that we was asked though, which is who do we think
is going to win the title? Are we still favouring
Leicester? I'm still going for.
Leicester, yeah, I just think they've come to form at the
right time. Linda Buck has some somebody
I've never met. I think it might be somebody.
Else on her page. Ipswich seemed to make hard work
of overcoming Bellevue last Monday.
Not sure I'd agree. So I'd personally write the
winners of the Leicester Sheffield semi finals the
favourites, but I would agree with that.
But I think Leicester, that just come into form, haven't they?
Yeah, they've been. The best, they've been the best
team over the last few weeks. But you know, I think you'd be,
I think you'd be foolish to write Ipswich off and I think, I
think you'd be foolish to write with Sheffield off as well.
But to me, I would be leaning towards the Lions really.
Didn't they have a long track meeting at host at horse racing
site in Cannock in the 70s? I think I have a major 1 I
think. I think what's happened to that
site I. Don't remember whether they
don't know. About that, but I know about 25
years. Ago Chris Van Stratton was
looking at getting along tracking to Dunstal Park, who
was told quite emphatically no. So I don't know.
I certainly don't. I don't think anything long
track, making finals, being staged in in, it was late.
He's done well. He's 21 minutes.
It's so much. Money docked out of his wages
this week. You know what I mean?
Wages. Wages.
I dream of wages. Well, I'm sure somebody out
there will do a bit of research on that for us.
Clive would. You Major Olson Michael Lee won
the world championship Lawrence Rogers chats water held a long
track meeting when that was it was obviously it was for me
before I was born. I would imagine that was 70s,
wasn't it so. John Hope, Yes, I was there.
I think Agan Muller won it. Track there still at Chase
Water. Wow.
It was a trotting track. OK, OK.
And is it like, is it like shale or that I don't know, I've
never. Actually been to it looks like
shale when I've seen when I've seen.
Footage of it? I've only ever seen older
footage of it from years ago maybe.
Somebody out there will have the answer to that.
What's the? What's the surface on a?
Normally on a long track. Do you know what I think I'd
like to go and see a long track. All this talk.
I know. Yeah, I think I.
Would have Oh yeah, different. Got excited about it yeah, yeah,
it sounds interesting. Perhaps there was a long
travelling. Hill above Exeter in the 70s
yeah. So Alden, I think that was where
the Exeter were looking at reopening after the lost count,
after the lost of the county grounds.
So I know I've gone past it a few times on the way down to
Plymouth. So there's quite some way out of
Exeter, but that would, you know, fit obviously.
I mean, obviously we know I've been major, of course I had a
lengthy spell at Extern, luckily one of his most successful
spells of his career. So we're into heating them
bright now at Wimborne Rd. It's still just the two points
in it between the Pirates and the Bears.
So I think at the halfway stage red car with the the ones that
they take this in a shot, wouldn't they?
Yeah. At the moment.
So yeah, OK, they expect to start.
Let's have a chat about Mr Bartok Schmidt, the only
Birmingham world champion. I'm going to claim it off.
Hands, Nielsen Apart from hands. Nielsen and Jason Doyle, only
one of three Birmingham Yeah, people.
Forget Jason Doyle. Jason Doyle that one season of
Birmingham, didn't he? So.
He did on the in in the air that we nearly won the damn thing
until. Let's not talk about Mr Greg
Hancock. Come on, Red car.
Yeah. So is he the greatest of all
time? It's difficult, isn't?
It it's always a difficult comparing years, isn't it?
You know, I mean the obvious pedal, the obvious pale storms
of course, is with Tony Richardson and Ivan managing
because they were the only other two that won 6 championships.
You know, would he have done as well racing the sort of Speedway
that and the sort of box that I haven't had in the 70s?
We don't know. We don't.
Know you can only ride the Speedway that you can, that
you've got, yeah. It's so suddenly a lot of ways
that you know, I've major isn't around and he walks.
It'd be great to get his opinion on, on, on Smarsley, because I
always, I always thought he was a little bit dismissive towards
Tony Ricardson when he equalled the record 20 years ago when
obviously Ricardson was there. Because obviously he's involved
in the, in the Grand Prix and he's, you know, he's, I think he
was very, very generous in his congratulations with Smarsley.
Whether he, whether he probably felt like that, we don't know.
I think he was interviewed, wasn't he on the on during the
meeting? And he said he, you know, he
wished he'd he wished he hadn't caught him, but quite as quickly
as he asked. Because I think there's every
chance that smalls it might not just equal the record, but go on
and. But has he now got somebody that
can give him a run for his money is are we about to see a really
big 10 year rival? I don't know whether this is
Marshall, it's got 10 years left in him, but you know a rival to
Chip to compare with some of the great rivals of not Panel and
Carter and etcetera, etcetera. It'd be nice to think so, yes.
I mean, he's been the one thing that Kurtz won't have next
season. He won't have the element of
surprise because I think he's probably caught a few people as
this season, You know, next season's going to be different
sort of pressure because people are going to expect him to to
push on. You know, I think he's just hope
that he's going to be not going to be one of those rods that's
just going to find himself in the right place, but at the
wrong time. Or someone like Freddie Linger,
for example, or or going further back, Lee Adams, who outstanding
riders but just riding in an area where there was just
someone that was else that was just so much more dominant if
he'd. Got the same results like two
seasons ago. Yeah, he would have won.
Absolutely, yeah. And.
That's is that something that they need to look at?
Yeah. I think it's this format.
Favour smarsh like well I. Always.
You always feel that they're trying to Formula One went
through this little route, didn't you, many years ago, of
trying to negate Michael Schumacher's dominance.
In the end, of course, they did managed to succeed in doing it.
So whether the FIM is still trying to do the same thing with
with with smiles like remains to be seen.
But you know, they've changed the format a few times, haven't
they? And smiles like still proven
that he's able to to go out on. He's definitely not been the his
normal dominant self this year. He hasn't.
Needed to be really though, as. Well, that's true.
That's true. He's nearly needed to burn.
He's back close. You know, I mean, he's, as I
say, he was one. Sprint race away from not
winning it really when you think about it, and Kurtz is as.
I say Kurt has won five Grand Prix, the only rider did in the
history of the JP's over 30 years to win 5 grand prize in a
row and he's, you know, 150% of the grand prize.
But he's never managed to get in front of small Stick and small
stick had the advantage of being able to get in the lead early on
and he just said enough to just about keep him a Bay.
But you know, he's been in the fight this season.
I suppose in some ways you I would probably say that of the
six, this is probably the one that's going to give small to
the most satisfaction because he had a real.
Genuine. Rival for the Championship this
season, he did seem. Quite happy about it, yeah.
Absolutely, yeah. So it's it's a, it's a great,
you know, a great villain for him to obviously now, because
he's ultimately going to be probably in terms of numbers,
he's probably going to go on to be the greatest rider of all
time. You know, I don't, I don't see
anything stopping him from adding to the six championships.
Yeah. And.
He's one, doesn't he? And he needs one to be the
greatest. If you look at the score, it's
actually 2 point lead to red car.
At the moment so interesting so but Paul are on the five one at
the moment through Louis Kerr and Zach Cook in the number 9.
So they are going to turn that round and go back in front by
the looks of it boring barring anything major happening in the
last lap or so doesn't look like that's going to happen.
So that'll. Be two point lead to pull, yeah.
So. Nip and tuck.
Yeah, looks like a class meeting.
So we haven't, we've obviously been dipping in and out of it
obviously what the what the actual racing is like.
But in terms of the score line after some pretty one sided plus
that we've seen so far then? Right, right.
So there's a few more questions turned up here.
Who would you guys like to see as the wild cards for next
season's GP series? If you'd have asked me last
year, I would have said e-mail Emil Slifutanov an Arsene
Lagusa. Yeah, that'd be a good one.
It's, it's a biotic attention for a lot of people, isn't it?
That's, you know, because especially with Ligurti, because
Ligurti has never had the chance to defend the championship that
he won. It almost, it's almost, there's
almost a little bit of mistake really about Ligeti because you
do wonder whether that was just a one off thing or whether he
could have done it again. Can't.
Really see him coming back at the same level.
Can you? It'd be.
Difficult, very, very difficult. I think I'm also off.
I don't think he's been quite as quite himself this season.
You know, the times I've seen him roasting fruits, which he
hasn't been at the sort of level that he's done over the last
couple of years. I thought he he was sort of I
mean, he was very off killer at Bellevue in the first leg and he
wasn't much better, I don't think in the in the in the
second leg alone. I don't wonder whether he's
Polish club must have. I mean, don't forget, of course,
he injured of course, last season in the playoffs and he
ended them not riding in the blast.
So it was ultimate for by all accounts.
But he's he's Polish club sort of put pressure on him to do it,
not to come and ride over here. So David O Brox has lost about
smiles, and they've gone 15 versus to give others a bit of a
chance. It's not.
Unheard of. No, they do it.
Then they. Do it in the 60s with 15 metres
funding. They put them on.
There was there was a sort of. A Barry Briggs.
There's some of the Australian riders, yeah, they used to put.
Them on handicaps, didn't they? Because those four, those five
were completely dominant. Wow.
So, yeah, only in Speedway, as we say.
That's incredible, Ben Reeson says.
If Emil Saifudinov can sort out his bike chips, which will be
powerful in the playoffs, Well, I certainly.
Don't think you can write it switch off.
They are I mean they are I've I've this season, they have been
the best. I mean we.
Did say at the beginning of the season that that was head and
shoulders above everybody. Yeah, there always just.
Seems to be something goes wrong for it.
Fish doesn't. It's almost like it seems like
they get to there and then they're in the wrong place.
Right place, but at the wrong time.
Ben Creswell says Tom Brennan for a wild card.
Not sure I I. Think he's I think his time's
going to come. I think he might be the next.
Couple of years, I think his time.
Will come, obviously. We've got 2 in there in in
Danbury and. Robert.
Lambert or Lambert, after the highs of of last season, has had
a very disappointing season. I think he's probably quite
fortunate that he's managed to get back in automatically really
so. Maybe that'll give him a kick up
the bottom, yeah. And so, I mean, the one man that
we probably should talk about, it was looked like, I thought
towards the end of the, I think he was going to be a real
spoiler, and that was Michael Gibson Jensen.
He's writing exceptionally well, didn't he?
He did very. Very brows and colourful
Leathers on artists. So he stood out.
But he was he was excellent. And you know, he managed to beat
smiles like in his last ride. And you know, going into that
final, you just have the feeling that maybe he could be the one
that could decide because. I think looking.
At looking at the final, I just wonder whether Kurtz was maybe a
little bit too fair on on smalls.
Like if I'd have been in curt shoes, I would have made sure
smalls it was was hanging off the fence the first corner.
That's what he had to do. And then he just, he just
disappeared off, got his head down and then just had a chance
to look 2 laps later and smiled. It was behind him so and.
And wasn't trying. Yeah, I mean you can.
See from you can see from his body language when he when he
crossed the line to win the JP you could you just saw his head
sort of go down a little bit. Just think all that's enough.
Still not doing so but. Possibly the most successful
rider not to win a world championship.
Oh, we've got. Another another big off at I
think that's Tobias Thompson. I think that's come off on the
first bend that's in heat #10 down at Wimborne Rd.
Just a little bit of bunching between him and the Roger in
yellow. So we'll.
See what the referee decides about that.
I believe there was something up on the the YouTube don't forget.
To get your ride at the weekend as well, please.
Yeah, I think you have a good thing about that.
Hello, long time no see. Not been to Speedway since
Newcastle closed. Is it true that Harry Ritner,
Harry Redknapp is getting involved?
Yes, it is true. Yes, it is true.
We've been having a little chat about it.
He seems to be there in more in a sort of media role, trying to
get us in the publicity of the thing up.
Yeah, there it is from Talk Sport.
Harried Rednapp has in his sporting role, but it's nothing
to do with football. The legendary English manager
has joined the management team of Speedway Futures Limited.
This company holds all the rights for Speedway in the UK.
Speedway's the sport and it tells them that you know about
the sport. Apparently there are 4 divisions
of Speedway in the UK. Really.
OK, He's he's working already. He's got 20. 7 clubs.
There's not 27 clubs. Speaking about it, he told The
Sun I watch it on TNT Sports and it's fantastic entertainment.
These guys are going from nought to 60 quicker than a Formula One
car with no brakes and they risk life and limp every time they
race. I think that was written for him
as well. That's what I.
Said yeah. I ended up a few miles from Paul
Stadium and back in the day I often took my my boys Mark and
Jamie to the Speedo to watch the brave daredevils in action.
It's still a grace evening out that it always was.
It really is a breathtaking bad sports on on your door,
Stephanie. It's the same all over the
country. Places like Bellevue, Sheffield,
Oxford, Leicester, Italy's Glasgow and England to name but
a few of the iconic venues and. Nearly all of them it's not.
It's a name. It's a name.
The ones that's left, basically. So, yeah, interesting.
So, well, we, we, you know, I mean it's already getting yeah
coverage. So we, we will see what happens.
We will see what happens. OK, right of the week, Dan
Thompson, says Phil Taylor. Right of the week Dan Thompson
says Brian. Racing like Dan Thompson, like
Woody's, Donford Patrick. Dudek as a wild card?
That's a definitely a possibility, I think.
That's a good show, Patrick Dudek.
He hasn't really hit the heights.
They're just showing the gates that's there.
So the outside gates at the moment to a pool, I mean gate
falls 144% to the Rice, Rice's gate ones 133%.
So it's definitely the inside or the outside that's got the
advantage so far in that one just.
For the record, my ride of the week will be Dan, Dan Thompson.
Thompson, there we go. He's certainly of.
The. Come on a bit this year isn't I
think. Purely for the achievement, I'd
have to be off a bottle smoothly, you know, to win, to
become on in the third. That's not a bad call either.
Six World Championships and now I'm thinking about it.
Maybe I should go for Brady Curtis 5 GPS.
Not just five GPS in the sheets, but on the Truss on the truck.
Yeah, nobody's ever done. Nobody smiles.
Even smiles. He's never done it.
Rick Artson never did it either, son.
Yeah, I'm. Actually going to change my
mind. I'm going to say Brady Kurtz.
He's writing. All the stones.
That's some. It's news to me that he can
stand. Writing as well.
Dan Thompson's still the White. Head so you know well.
There you go. What you're worried about?
OK, so I mean, we're coming up to the the pointy end of the
season there the. Business end so.
I'd like to know you guys, well, who do you think's going to win
the premiership and who do you think's going to win the
championship? Dudek is set to to win the SEC,
so we'll qualify for GOP Direct. So.
This Championship play for, it's going to be tight, isn't it?
Because you, you would think the Winkies team would be Edinburgh.
I mean they did shock Glasgow a little bit on on Friday.
Although I'm as I say, I'm not totally convinced.
I certainly. Wouldn't rule 1414 it's a good.
Lead, but Glasgow I think are capable of putting that back
because they've had some thumping winds up in Asheville
this season. I think a lot of that's going to
depend on on Edinburgh and keep it tight in the early races and
just frustrate Edinburgh a little bit.
It's the place is. Going to be rocking because if
you're an Edinburgh fan, Oh yeah, you've got, you've got to
be there, haven't you? You've got to be.
Yeah, it's. You know, it was seemed a bit
low key the atmosphere on the they came across when we watched
it on Friday. So but he'll be you know, I'm
sure there'll be an absolutely raucous atmosphere upper dash
field. I think it's not until next week
actually this semi fall. So there's a bit of a long wait
as well. So there's quite a long wait for
Edinburgh to sort of, you know, Stew over their lead a little
bit, really. So.
But this one at the moment is Is this anybody?
Is this? Yeah.
So I mean you, Paul, I mean this.
Leg is anybody's, let alone the red.
Red Car will if you give. If you asked Red car before the
meeting, 2 points. Lose defeat by two points.
You'd snap their hands off. Haven't.
Got it yet so haven't got it yet so.
But Paul, you know. How many hits have we got?
This we were just on to hit #10 so it's a bit.
Slow at the moment, yeah, so. Would you like to say sod well?
I think you've just said it. OK, so because you're talking
about Duncan Pemberton, do you want to read it?
Sod Dan Thompson I had a £3 each way on him at 55 to one on SGP 2
and came forth. Sounds like a you problem.
OK, 810 about to start. So we've got.
Lawson Thompson, Jason Edwards and Nick Morris blaster in the
past there for the Birmingham fans and for Wolves fans as
well. Of course it's all gone.
Quiet about Nick Morris now, but he's really.
Now it's sort of been forgotten about, doesn't it?
Doesn't Been strucked under the carpet and just pretend it never
happened I think. That's how it should be.
He's done his time, as they say. Yeah, it's all.
Forgotten about? Probably.
Possibly. Never Speedway.
Funds don't forget. No, they don't forget.
Anything do they, Brian? I've still haven't forgotten
Greg. Greg Hancock.
So how long ago was that? That's 12 years ago. 12 years
ago didn't feel like 12 years doesn't so it's happened since
then so. From Birmingham point of view,
not anything much good really. Well, 2.
National League wins, of course fantastic and or.
Another one they're they're not taking any prisoners on that
track tonight, are they? Yeah.
Paul did get that red car, looked like they got it on A51,
but Josh, Ned was just went a little bit too wide there I
think. He might have been helped a
little bit wide there, I thought.
He looked like a camel on his own a little bit, to be honest.
I just think he went into the he went in and got it all wrong.
We're just going to see the replay now.
So just got it there. So yeah, so so they're both
Morris and it looks like his team has just paid him a little
bit. So he was in his.
Way, wasn't he? Yeah.
So he was somewhere else. What?
Do you reckon? I think you've got to exclude
somebody for that myself. Are you going to exclude
difficult one? I think you well as far as
ultimately it's going to be somebody.
From red car you'd have to. Exclude Edwards because he was
the one that came off the fallen rod to stop the race, didn't he?
So let's. Find out what's.
Yep, it is. Justin Edwards has been
excluded, so that's a huge blow for the red car.
So there's a jump as well from Thompson.
I don't know whether he touched the types there.
Look like he touched the types as well.
So we'll have a look at this again.
As he touched the types, it's peaks, touched the type, peaks,
the peak touched the type. It's exclusion, isn't it?
So let's have a look at it again.
I'm sure he's just, let's just have a look.
They've slowed it right down. So I have to say I've been
really. Yeah, yes.
God says it's the first time in the world that I've seen that.
Will that mean that Edwards will be put back in?
Well, the white, the white light went, so it's gone up now the
blue lights come on so. It's all happening, people.
The phone's going to be red. Hot phone's going to be red.
Yeah, Middle. O0 we're already in the the in
the office of notice with the phone so.
What good will it do? Has anybody out there, I'll put
this question to you? Has anybody ever seen the
referee change his mind after a phone call?
Are are they allowed to I, I. Have seen it once, I think
they're. Allowed to, yeah.
I have seen it, I have seen it once.
It was in the Grand Prix, I can't remember which Grand Prix
it was. And the other Odders all
threatened to walk out the meeting.
So we have to change his mind back again.
No. And I think that referee, I
don't think that referee referee the Grand Prix meeting again so.
Point in being a referee, I'm not.
Surprised. I'm not surprised.
It's like saying. We're not playing.
One says no. He's definitely touched it
there. We're just looking at it again.
He's definitely just caught the peak.
So this one, I don't know whether the referee, you don't
know whether the referee stopped the rice because we can't see
the red lights from the well he. Can't stop the rice because he
he did exclude the white initially.
So we'll see what happens. Let's see what happens.
I've got to say, this is the first time I've first time in a
while I've seen bears since coverage.
Their coverage is fantastic. It's great, isn't it?
I think. This is, I mean, considering the
budget the TNT got, I think this blasted out of the water that
should. Be shown to themselves, yeah.
OK. Well, the time is coming up to
quarter to we have got a few meetings that are scheduled.
Whether they'll go ahead, yeah, we don't know.
So how are we? Doing with the the old table.
How's that going? It's Monty.
Tyson the top Still there's only a couple of points between the
top four or five South Skippy on 187 Elliot 186 Andrew 186 as
well Rich Thomas 185 and Simon still in there 183 as well.
Chris the rig of 182 Bill Taylor 182.
So I think any one of those seven much still fancy the
chances of winning it and looks like it's going to go right down
to the last couple of weeks. I still.
Think I'm going to win it so. I think I've been that high for
a long time. Consider I'm missed about.
Sorry, what? Have you been doing 3?
Or 4 meetings I missed? Yeah, OK.
So let's have a look at the fixtures then for this week and
we will start tomorrow night with the semi final of the BSN
series, the second leg Oxford against Pool.
That's up to you, man. I will go pull by 4.
Pull by 12. Where'd that come from?
Yeah, I don't know where that come from.
I think Paul are going to be smart enough to this whatever
happens. So I'm going to say Paul by 8,
OK. Then Next up on Thursday is the
now the first leg of the semi final in the Premiership,
Sheffield against Leicester. That's.
Up to you, me. I'm going to go Leicester by 4.
They have one at Sheffield, already have the session, so
yeah. Yeah, I thought so.
I've got to do it. I've got to say, Andrew, you
know I'm going. To say that as well, OK, I'm
going to say Andrew, OK, wouldn't surprise me.
So OK, Next up is Edinburgh against Oxford.
So Jason Edwards, he's back in the region, he's back in the
rear. And by the way, so obviously the
race Will Cairns, obviously he's gone in as the reserve
replacement for Tobias Thompson. It's not a bad.
It's not a bad replacement, is it?
So you've got 2. Points So far you've heard this,
but. If you've just seen that red car
manager just said ref seen blue helmet peak touched the tapes so
change his mind. OK, so Dave's obviously watching
the meeting for us, so yeah, yeah.
Edinburgh against Oxford in the. National League.
This is up to me, isn't it? Edinburgh by 10?
I've actually put Edinburgh by 16 so I'm going to change it to
because it just came up as Edinburgh by 16.
It's a Freudian slip. Should I go that?
Edinburgh by 14. I'll go Edinburgh by 12.
OK, and that's the first of a double header at Armadale
because you've got the. After that you've got another
National League meeting and you've got Edinburgh against the
Leicester Lion Cubs. That's that's for you, Matt
Edinburgh. By 4.
Leicester by 4. It's almost, I've almost got to
say, a draw there, haven't I? Really?
Edinburgh by 4 as well. OK meanwhile on Friday in the
BSN semi final, first leg Glasgow, Glasgow against Red
Car. All the major competitions in
the Championship and they're still not decided.
Just so many. Of them up north as well.
Yeah, you're, that's not, it's Chris Cisco.
Who was it Glasgow versus Red car Glasgow.
Glasgow by 6. Glasgow by 14.
Glasgow by 8. I'll say on that one, OK?
The second leg of that semi final is the following day.
That's 1:00 on Saturday afternoon.
Red car against Glasgow? And I'm going to say red car by
8. Red car by 6 I'll say on that
one. Red car by. 4.
OK. Yeah, Rear on the feet 10 has
just taken place. By the way, that was won by
Richard Lawson. So that was a three all with
Edwards and Morris packing in the minor placing.
So still 2 points in here at the moment, that's what.
They've got to do no last places.
Isn't it all? Right, so moving on to Monday,
we've got the second leg of the Premiership player semi final,
Leicester against Sheffield. OK.
That's for you, Matt Leicester. By 10.
Leicester by 12. I fancy Leicester by 12.
OK. And finally, next Tuesday,
second leg of the car cut semi final, I think this is on base
and so obviously we won't be on next week.
So we'll be obviously we're keeping an eye on that one.
Glasgow against Poole, which could be a dress rehearsal for
the for the Championship platform.
At the moment it's what's that? Me.
Yeah, let's. Go Glasgow by. 4 Glasgow by 8.
Glasgow by 6 right in the middle and that's it.
That was quick and easy. We have a few.
You can't call them tweets, can you?
We have a few messages on the on YouTube.
Wife was watching old Bike Grove shows.
They went to Speedway. Good to see Mark Thorpe going
round the track back then, I bet.
Do you know Bike Grove? Bike Grove.
OK, You know bike. Yeah.
Well, I should I should know bike because my mother was born
a couple of straight away from Newcastle Speedway so.
OK. Never went there I don't think,
but. So Duncan Pemberton says, have
you mentioned the race night at the Pavilion Club showing the
Wolves versus Cradley Dudley Wolves trophy, even providing a
scorecard 19? 99 Dudley Wolves trophy.
I've got that meeting on DVD. That meeting has to be seen to
be believed. I mean the Wolves Cradley
meetings were always hard fought anyway but that one was was
brutal. Definitely.
Definitely recommend watching it if you can get a copy of it.
So, well, I can. Get a copy of it.
It's not. Yeah.
So the first, the first leg of that opposes anybody who
remembers The Dirty wolf strife. It was always on a Bank Holiday
Monday with the first leg of Duddywood at 11:00 in the
morning and then strides over to Monmouth for the second leg at
7:30. The first leg was a draw and the
second leg was one by one point where.
So. It's how class it was Eric Gun.
I think that was Eric Gunson's last ever Darby before before
his crash at Bradford and he got a 19 point maximum.
We should mention that Eric Gunderson may well have gone on
to get a few more world titles that we have, and that is.
You say you're somebody who doesn't agree with you.
Eric Gunderson. OK.
Yeah, I. Remember reading because he did
an interview with Backtrack a few years ago and he feels that
if he's, I mean, he's he's since admitted that he probably
wouldn't have been riding in the British league after 89 anyway.
So and he would have probably just come back and ridden in in
testimonials or world championship events.
But I mean, I think you could probably argue by that stage of
the 80s hands, Nielsen was beginning to sort of pull away
from him a little bit in terms of his dominance.
And Gunnison really didn't have. I mean, Gunnison didn't even
finish top of crowd, his averages last scene.
He was young at Pedison, so yeah, so but yeah, one point and
that was the last last time the Wolves won the Duddy Wolves
trophy during the the years that crowd were at Duddy Wood.
I think the last one we did when was 96, but it was when crowded
were running good stock and none of the top riders rode in that
one. So Paul have.
Pulled away a little bit more. 4 point.
I got a four two in the heat and bread thanks to a great win by
Anders Row and he's unbeaten so far I think.
He's got a job now. Yeah.
OK, OK. I've got a stupid question of
the week. OK this week as well.
Don't laugh. But why I got a laugh now?
Haven't I? What?
Why no brakes? Why no gears?
OK. So, I mean, I think you've asked
this question before, no brakes because it would be dangerous to
have them. Why that?
Sounds ridiculous. Doesn't need to say that.
Yeah. You, well, if you imagine you're
going around the corner or even if you're not going around the
corner, even on the straight and you put your brake on, the
bike's just going to go from underneath you because it's not,
it's, it's just shale. It's loose, right?
OK, this And why no gears? Because they don't need them.
If they, you know, they can't go, they're not going to go any
faster than that. Speedo is the only motorsport
where you accelerate going into the corners.
You don't, you don't pick, you don't slow down, go into the
corner. You've got to pick, speed up to
get the back wheel round, Sir. Yeah.
Oh, OK, this. Ends this week's stupid.
Questions a week. It wasn't a stupid question.
This is where Paul are going to have a bit of an advantage going
into the Big Heights course because both Richard Lawson and
Anders row and beaten so far. Charles Wright's only got 6 from
his three rides and Danny King's got 5 from his three so.
Yeah, it's beginning. To it's looking a little bit
ominous, the pool, I mean, Red Car of minor days and Fist of
it. And as long as they can sort of
restrict the damage, they should be quite happy with it.
But it's difficult really at this point to see red car.
What are we up? To.
We're on to heat #12 that's coming up next 14.
Seems like that might be critical as it is.
OK, so. If you're a red car, what sort
of lead do you want to take back?
Yeah, what sort of deficit do you want to take back?
I think they'd well, four points, I think they'd take this
and wouldn't they? So I think the.
Weight's coming up. You're not sure they're going to
get 4 points. OK.
What will happen about the Sheffield versus IPIC meeting
that hasn't been run yet because of the weather?
That's a good question. Yeah.
I mean, they will have to, they will have to try and run it.
We've got to probably do it. So they have to, they have to
try and run it. I don't know when we're running
out of dates now, coming up towards October, it's probably
going to. End up being run in the last
week of October, isn't it? You know, there has been a case
of course where you have split our meetings run in November,
but those are, you know, fall between, aren't they so.
Really. Yeah, watch this space is all I
can say. What's What's the latest you can
ever remember Rice being held in a season?
What? In a normal season in November?
Yeah, Really. We have had meetings run in
November in the past haven't we? So it was cold.
Wasn't the last meeting at the old Penny Bar on in November in
83? I don't know, it didn't feel
like it was a cold match from my memory. 54 then.
David is going to. Remember that I've never been
54. I've got a.
Feeling when Bellevue left Hyde Rd.
Their last meeting was on November the 1st, which I think
was against Cradley, our last. Meeting was against Cradley.
I. Remember that because we lost.
I was so Everly as well. Yeah, absolutely slaughtered.
So basically. It's all Cradley's fault.
Yeah, yeah. Everybody knows that.
Everything. Everything through speedways.
Before, before. Before sort of the 90s, it was
Cradley's fault. After that, it was Paul's fault.
That's the way it works, isn't it?
I think so. Yeah.
Ever been? Coventry's fault?
Well, it's been Ollie Olsen's fault also.
Excuses while we rack over a few goals.
Your biggest disappointment in Speedway Speedway related.
I don't mean like I'm asking you, I'm asking everybody.
I don't mean, I don't mean I don't mean to be the Brews
disbanded like that is my. Biggest.
Disappointment. Speedway related.
I mean, it doesn't have to be about the brews.
I'll let you go for the World Cup, it's a difficult one.
Grand Prix Probably an easy one. For me, that's losing the lead
title to Bellevue in 93 on the last night.
Well, one. You just made it easy for me,
haven't you, on the last night when we when we lost the player
final to that guy Paul? Yeah, to Paul, because they got
a ringer in which I wouldn't be out I'll.
Tell you a little story about 93 because I mean, at one point we
were about at one point we were about 15 points and there was no
playoffs in these days. We were about 15 points in front
at the top of the table. And then we just completely got
decimated by injuries. But about six weeks before that
meeting, Bellevue went to Criedy and got a bit of a fluky points
and we was all there on the backside jumping up and down and
wanting to go the Criedy fans up.
And it turned at that point when Bellevue of the league.
So he came back in business. Oh dear.
Oh need. Speedway Need Speedway?
What was your happiest moment? I think winning the league at
Swindon in 2009, that's my favourite ever memory.
Having finished rock bottom in the season before, it was a
complete turn around so, but I remember that vividly.
I mean, I've spoken about that Knockout Cup final against D
Spawn, which was a tremendous 74.
Was it something like one of those lines?
But actually it was when Andy I might get emotional, it's when
Andy Graham won the British final.
Yeah, just. 2 Two days after Stanette Codron had died, that
was, you know, we all thought he's done it for he's done it
for Kermit, you know, Yeah. It was what you'd call a
bittersweet moment. Especially of course with with
if Alan finishing second as well, even though he wasn't a
Birmingham rider then. So he's always.
Been thought of as a Birmingham rider.
He always will by Brummies fans. We were, absolutely.
When we heard that he'd gone and where he'd gone to, we were
spitting feathers. Joe Thurley was not popular at
that point in his career. He was justified to go out there
though, wasn't he? Because he won everything
acquiredly, you know? And he.
Oh yeah. You can't blame Alan Graham but
you would, you know, if Joe Thurley had put him back in the
team when he said he was going to put him back in the team and
not said no, you need another couple more weeks to get to
heel. Who knows what we would have
achieved having Andy and Alan in the same team when they were at
the best. I hate 12 so I.
Got Louis Kerr, Paul Stark against Josh Edwards and Jodie
Scott I think record if they can they need to strongly the heat
advantage on. This one I think so because
real. Those two big hits, 1315 coming
up. And just before we go right of
the week, Dan Thompson it. Is Dan Thompson OK?
Well. Done.
And we're rich, unfortunately. Of course, we are not going to
be here for the next two weeks. We're not going.
To be next week and nor the week after because unfortunately I'm
on a holiday. I'm sorry.
I'm really sorry. No, you're.
Not, you know, I. Really don't want to go in
Lionel Beach for seven days, but you know.
You shouldn't talk about your wife like that, but umm, who?
You are. But we will be coming back
afterwards to finish the show and we will continue to keep
putting the predictions on as well over the next couple of
weeks and the show. Will continue to the end of the
season. That's the plan, unfortunately.
You've you're stuck with us. You take care.
Goodnight. Goodnight, Goodnight.