1 00:00:00,150 --> 00:00:04,950 When i left my job at Google, IT was both liberating but alto 2 00:00:04,950 --> 00:00:08,470 terrifiing because i had ready susceted my Sense of worth two 3 00:00:08,470 --> 00:00:10,670 the drop title at Google and all of Superman. 4 00:00:10,670 --> 00:00:13,550 People were asking, so what do you do? 5 00:00:13,550 --> 00:00:17,830 I don't have a good anster my response to the concerns to you 6 00:00:17,830 --> 00:00:20,950 try and find a scriverti as possible. 7 00:00:20,950 --> 00:00:24,310 Another tibele I would mixent for all of the rund business 8 00:00:24,310 --> 00:00:27,630 just tobiable to say myse my identity, chse my contribution 9 00:00:27,630 --> 00:00:29,550 to the World. Sì, I'm productive. 10 00:00:29,910 --> 00:00:32,509 I matter. Here today in London to 11 00:00:32,509 --> 00:00:36,990 interview allor lecamp a famoso blogger, writer e neuroscientist 12 00:00:36,990 --> 00:00:40,190 e we talk about her latest book tiny experiment this on 13 00:00:40,190 --> 00:00:43,790 interview whit Perfect for you if you feel tour ready stack in 14 00:00:43,790 --> 00:00:47,190 live to you are in betweend phonees and you want to exit 15 00:00:47,190 --> 00:00:50,590 from this rat and youf you feel that you want to start doing 16 00:00:50,590 --> 00:00:54,110 things differently it's interview full of insights and 17 00:00:54,110 --> 00:00:57,710 lot of points your start trying in your Life from today and 18 00:00:57,710 --> 00:01:00,110 loro. Welcome to cosa sposta podcast 19 00:01:00,110 --> 00:01:05,830 nobody can Google auto. And thank for joining me today. 20 00:01:05,950 --> 00:01:09,670 So we're talking about obese, your latest book, and i like to 21 00:01:09,670 --> 00:01:12,670 star with the content of the book, the experiments where you 22 00:01:12,670 --> 00:01:17,670 believe it are the three main experiments da defined. 23 00:01:18,430 --> 00:01:21,080 We are today. I would say. 24 00:01:22,030 --> 00:01:27,270 May Writing experiment my journaling experiment and? 25 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:32,280 My public speaking experiment al secret, my writing experiment i 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,680 wus my first Real experiment. It's when i commited to Wright a 27 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,160 hundred artiles in a hundred week days and to publishd them 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,920 online vai a meno user. Thus the first time i really 29 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,680 player this i that idea of committing to something of 30 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,240 ascurios about for specific per time leting of the outcome and 31 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,750 sing what happens. And this reading experiment has 32 00:01:54,750 --> 00:01:57,590 completi change my Life because it's the beginning of naslaps 33 00:01:57,590 --> 00:02:00,590 that's what turnd in two nat Labs what is my business today? 34 00:02:01,190 --> 00:02:04,070 The second One with you, my drink experiment with isll 35 00:02:04,070 --> 00:02:07,790 running, i Journal every single Morning ort Kiss i try to it's 36 00:02:07,790 --> 00:02:11,870 not Perfect and this is ready. The way i stay were of what's 37 00:02:12,470 --> 00:02:16,470 happening Inside nudgesping attention to the external signes 38 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:19,790 of success per ree, checking in reggerely with myself, intense 39 00:02:19,790 --> 00:02:23,030 of what I want and how allined my Works per what I want. 40 00:02:23,870 --> 00:02:28,830 The last One, public speaking. Yeah, public speaking è 41 00:02:29,390 --> 00:02:31,750 something i used to be terrified of and i designed experiment 42 00:02:31,790 --> 00:02:36,670 where I would putter at first with short videos online than 43 00:02:36,670 --> 00:02:43,390 online workshops and Small stages and this up speaking in 44 00:02:43,390 --> 00:02:49,470 front of Modern two thousand people and I would lied that the 45 00:02:49,470 --> 00:02:51,790 Fear is complete Gone it's not, but it's gotn to the point 46 00:02:51,790 --> 00:02:54,350 what's White management and my sometime look. 47 00:02:54,710 --> 00:02:57,910 To giving a talk now all three experimentation. 48 00:02:59,230 --> 00:03:03,280 So. Di PACT as you descrive it in 49 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:09,600 the book, is I will try to do this for adoration and osser the 50 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,800 things change the. The corse of how You lo? 51 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,400 Ok for World to things the rease a lot of talking about the 52 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,920 outcome and you were talking about that as well raining now 53 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,080 One thing that reality me waste feeling that you cant of like 54 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,400 let go of identity in away do you Steel feel that you are 55 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,720 living like in between identies like the liminon Space you were 56 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:39,240 riferendo in the book from like Google Emploe or Wonder girl 57 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,880 Silicon Valley to un out writer neuroscientist like do you still 58 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,590 feeling between do you feel. Now your can i like a more 59 00:03:46,790 --> 00:03:50,600 stablema. Image of Yourself, how do you 60 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,640 live? That yeah, I'm very much still 61 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,600 in living of Space, so as i explain in the book when i left 62 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,960 my job at Google. Both Liberating but al solito 63 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,560 terrificing because i had ready Associated my Sense of wheth to 64 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,520 the drop title at Google and all of the settend One. 65 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,720 People were asking me, so what do you do? 66 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,480 I don't have a good answer. And my response to that 67 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,760 canturenty Wes to try and find a squary as possible another 68 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,550 title. In my case, West storring the 69 00:04:21,550 --> 00:04:25,710 start up for all of the rongses just to be able to say my chese 70 00:04:25,710 --> 00:04:28,070 my identity, che is my contribution to the World. 71 00:04:28,190 --> 00:04:31,870 Sì, I'm productive. I matters. 72 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,440 And what's change now is that I'm still in elemental Space in 73 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,360 the Sense that I don't have a very chiara idea of what my 74 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,120 career is going to look like of the next yours over the next 75 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,280 decads I'm not a hundred person share in termini di what I want 76 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,520 ever because that ke keepson changing that keepps on 77 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,240 evolving. They are moments when I want i 78 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,120 want to spend most of my time during Research al the Times 79 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,160 whereen I want to spendst of my time due in community building 80 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,480 and that's ok dei lazzarations lazza of insurance. 81 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,880 What changes my relationship to that insurance? 82 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,160 What I've managed to, I think, teach myself through all this 83 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,480 experience and through this experimental mindsite how to be 84 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:16,000 more comfotable and Los spaces, how to embracem and how to see 85 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,120 theme is more like an opportunity for groth. 86 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,920 And so how do you introduce your set rinow? 87 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,240 First, i Hope that people don't ask you. 88 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,680 And Action you know what it it's it's funny because I feel like 89 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,160 something that maybe has change to over the years is the kind of 90 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:39,400 people i spend time wheth and i feel like at a lot of networking 91 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,320 events i go to now conferences people action don't ready ask 92 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,040 what do you do o who are you but questions my like what you 93 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,440 working on right now what you carece about right now what is 94 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,720 an idea that you can't stop thinking about right now dose 95 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,160 the Type of conversations i find myself in today versus maybe 96 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,030 tengo when i was. In a moglie in your coreers, I 97 00:06:00,030 --> 00:06:03,390 think that's been healthful. What do you do in General is not 98 00:06:03,430 --> 00:06:05,430 ready. A question that comes up in the 99 00:06:05,470 --> 00:06:09,710 Sense of what is you drop title, i pure people ask me a question. 100 00:06:09,710 --> 00:06:15,110 Rich is fantastic, I think. But if if people ask what do you 101 00:06:15,110 --> 00:06:19,950 do you i tell theme, I'm a neuroscientist and after and an 102 00:06:19,950 --> 00:06:24,270 entrepreneur. Which i me e still Lidl been 103 00:06:24,270 --> 00:06:28,710 impressive Bull, yes, yes. And you know what action when i 104 00:06:28,710 --> 00:06:31,150 find myself in dose more tradizional conference where 105 00:06:31,150 --> 00:06:35,110 again people are the first question today neuroscientist 106 00:06:35,150 --> 00:06:39,110 were and it's only when i say that I am action working at the 107 00:06:39,110 --> 00:06:43,270 University that I see the nude of an action neuroscientist 108 00:06:43,950 --> 00:06:47,350 whosh is fassinating and something that a Confidi judge 109 00:06:47,390 --> 00:06:50,750 containe about because again i wus i thinking exacty like that 110 00:06:50,910 --> 00:06:52,790 ten us a go. I think that. 111 00:06:53,030 --> 00:06:56,550 Future saing is leaning to the need for certaty again, like 112 00:06:56,550 --> 00:07:00,710 having a job that is a titles on i know who I am, what i what I 113 00:07:00,710 --> 00:07:05,950 want and i guest it why big changes big swins in Life Lux 114 00:07:06,870 --> 00:07:11,430 attractive from a neuroscientist prospective what happens tour 115 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:14,550 Rain when we commit to Small experiments what is the change 116 00:07:14,870 --> 00:07:17,590 emiing your personal experience what. 117 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:20,120 What's changed? I think trans that question it's 118 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,760 impoint to understand how the bring response to androy and in 119 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,240 General. I Brain osed design is design to 120 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,880 riduce anziolantiesment as possible. 121 00:07:31,750 --> 00:07:35,710 And the reason why is because the more and sorrentiter is the 122 00:07:35,710 --> 00:07:38,870 last likely you are to surives so think about her ansessual 123 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:44,350 past or ancester need to know asd much askd about there 124 00:07:44,350 --> 00:07:47,670 environment so were to find resources who were the Friends 125 00:07:47,670 --> 00:07:50,750 and enemies and the triband and trannc to ready predict the 126 00:07:50,750 --> 00:07:55,670 future that would and trader survival and this is not you 127 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:58,270 hear Lit peple Saint that this is a problema. 128 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,040 A problem to be fix. I don't thing this is a problem 129 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,000 to be facx I think your Brain is working exactly as intended and 130 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:09,080 it's Frank to help you survive. The problem, the limitation here 131 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,520 is you want more than just arriving. 132 00:08:12,910 --> 00:08:16,310 Action Graw You want trive you wanna push yourself, you mon to 133 00:08:16,310 --> 00:08:19,590 get out of your comfort zone dance all of the survival 134 00:08:19,590 --> 00:08:25,160 mechanisms can get in the way. And this is why big changes are 135 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,960 so scary. You're littley Injecting and 136 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,600 sorrenty in to your Life and so you pulling your brand in a lor 137 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,520 mode saying oh waite a second we fell like mew I was going on all 138 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,320 of the sutton were in a situation where we don't know 139 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,440 what's going online thing experiments are you are Small 140 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,240 changes are you way to inject change in your Life without 141 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,560 having all of the alarm Bells go off cos it doesn't feel as des 142 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:55,190 diserberizing. As when you just have to The Big 143 00:08:55,190 --> 00:08:59,880 swks. Another reason why I think thank 144 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:03,680 experiment and against smory changes work better is that very 145 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:06,080 offend when we feel lick you make a big change. 146 00:09:07,030 --> 00:09:11,950 Will you star is an excuse to not make any change at all, 147 00:09:11,950 --> 00:09:16,360 because the change look so big. It feels like we with you do 148 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,280 allora a Research preparation when it fell ready to made that 149 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,640 change very a fan we don't make the change with all have dose 150 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,240 Friends or collecs da everytime we see theme dei keep onmi the 151 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,600 same thing oh yeah nexttyere I'll cot my job hastrered next 152 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,200 your helldy this nexter I'll move to that other CD or that 153 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,560 other country nexter Aldo des ort i sort reading a Book i that 154 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,160 all of this really big changes. And because of that you don't 155 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,440 you Dome wherese if you say next, i will start riting One 156 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,760 page everyday next. Your I will try to visite One 157 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,670 New place in my City. Every week end, as you can see 158 00:09:56,670 --> 00:09:59,550 there still change, right ma? It's more iterative and you can 159 00:09:59,550 --> 00:10:01,910 get started. Strade awayce more like 160 00:10:01,910 --> 00:10:06,230 explosior therapy to game confidence in trimes things that 161 00:10:06,310 --> 00:10:11,190 you are Kant like scare to do but you still trying to see what 162 00:10:11,190 --> 00:10:14,470 happens without heating the between or nothing. 163 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,760 Esse a good way topi it anything. 164 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,960 The other benefit is you, Saint the exposer, so you better 165 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:26,630 manage your Fear three exposer. The other part is that you don't 166 00:10:26,670 --> 00:10:29,990 assume that the change is gonna to be good for you. 167 00:10:29,990 --> 00:10:34,950 Don't know you esse don't know is quering your job or moving to 168 00:10:35,390 --> 00:10:40,150 the this other CD writing book is gonna to be good free and so 169 00:10:40,590 --> 00:10:43,710 thing experiments readyen invitation to give it a try 170 00:10:43,710 --> 00:10:44,990 first. Give IT a try. 171 00:10:44,990 --> 00:10:50,390 Give IT a try for a più weeks. For a più month only commit to 172 00:10:50,390 --> 00:10:52,430 that Small change. So an ex. 173 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,840 Mple by Podcast i really like is dat instate of Saint I'm ging to 174 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,190 star i podcast. Se I would create, I would 175 00:11:00,190 --> 00:11:04,910 product One popcast season. E War have six episodis at the 176 00:11:04,910 --> 00:11:08,950 end of that I can very gracefolly say that I'll stop 177 00:11:08,950 --> 00:11:11,430 the that thuis just Dead the only season i wus planning on 178 00:11:11,430 --> 00:11:14,870 creeding if it's not for me and if i love it i can keep on 179 00:11:14,870 --> 00:11:17,350 going. So that's the shift that you 180 00:11:17,350 --> 00:11:20,990 Mont to implement where you can try things Sea work for you base 181 00:11:20,990 --> 00:11:23,270 on your home data, let your collecting about yourself not 182 00:11:23,470 --> 00:11:26,470 based on what other people are saing and make in form 183 00:11:26,510 --> 00:11:28,630 decisions. In the process. 184 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:32,520 Io can stop if you don't like it è giusto non so scrivi la try, 185 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,360 yeah? So you ruote it takes coraggio 186 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:41,120 to be curious because giving upfix plan cany a special 187 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,640 because Human crave control and Clear path right? 188 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:49,360 So aside from all the pact you descrive the way of trying 189 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,320 rating on tiny experiment alter any alter things recentely 190 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:58,040 discover on how to work with in un certating speciali for people 191 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,200 of planning W are very Street with the with the planning and 192 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,960 trial. Things figured out before 193 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:04,680 starting? Yes, I'm. 194 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:10,430 Part of this, people. Having a plan Give me the Sense 195 00:12:10,430 --> 00:12:14,710 of control and I've con to realize that it's only the 196 00:12:14,710 --> 00:12:17,830 illusion of control and the splensor giving me very offend 197 00:12:17,830 --> 00:12:21,030 things keep on changing esperive in industry your udin the Kent 198 00:12:21,030 --> 00:12:24,270 of workwar the Environment keepes on changing the players 199 00:12:24,270 --> 00:12:28,310 keep on changing io acty doing yourself a dis service by kling 200 00:12:28,310 --> 00:12:30,510 to your plan because your plan become obsolete. 201 00:12:30,510 --> 00:12:35,790 Asch, you're done Riding IT something there encourt people 202 00:12:35,790 --> 00:12:37,910 who's like that to do and were naturedy curios. 203 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,400 Yourse very offerte MON i work with people the ared Nature 204 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,240 there curious it's nuthed the not curios it's more that they 205 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,080 are repressing on Curiosity because the want to feel like 206 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,120 you're in control and Curiosity vuol make you open the lot of 207 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,000 Doors will give you the possibilityes by is not 208 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,320 necessari always healthing atlease when you're in that 209 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,680 divergent exploration fase not ready help and given you this 210 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:03,480 very cleer blueprint thank you can copia and pasta in ortobe 211 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,790 successivo. Su, something that I would 212 00:13:05,790 --> 00:13:10,230 encorage fable to do is that Curiosity that you have and that 213 00:13:10,510 --> 00:13:16,070 you are open Pretty good at directing extonary, doing 214 00:13:16,070 --> 00:13:21,270 Research, looking at Numbers, looking at frameworks at moodles 215 00:13:21,270 --> 00:13:26,350 that you can copy and past try and directed internity ask your 216 00:13:26,350 --> 00:13:30,110 questions like whatfills right to me what? 217 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,960 Feels interessanti to me. How do you wanna spend my time? 218 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,600 How do you wanna spend my Energy? 219 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,640 How do i spend? I want to spend my attention. 220 00:13:37,270 --> 00:13:41,670 This internault signals are also very Rich and information that 221 00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:45,670 you can use to make decisions and to adapture path as you go 222 00:13:45,870 --> 00:13:50,270 without the illision of control of creeding this Perfect plan 223 00:13:50,790 --> 00:13:55,190 so. Inter of Saint here is a One 224 00:13:55,190 --> 00:13:57,870 your plan of everything I'm going to do just telles, tell 225 00:13:57,870 --> 00:14:00,870 yourself, OK Charles what I'm going to try for the next Cup of 226 00:14:00,870 --> 00:14:05,110 moth ivent to try that I'm going to pay attention to the signs 227 00:14:05,390 --> 00:14:10,870 extens signles is thing working making more money do you have 228 00:14:10,870 --> 00:14:14,670 readers, more subscribers, more listen eccetera interial signs 229 00:14:15,430 --> 00:14:20,390 adway filduring this quark. Because if all of the extra 230 00:14:20,430 --> 00:14:24,830 signles are in the green but you hate every second, I'm working 231 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:27,510 on this project. Is that ready? 232 00:14:27,510 --> 00:14:29,790 Success. I would Argo that it's. 233 00:14:30,310 --> 00:14:32,390 Not. It's more like, are you planning 234 00:14:32,390 --> 00:14:34,470 your own misury or. Yes. 235 00:14:35,070 --> 00:14:37,960 Cioè you like. You like it? 236 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,000 'S It's when you say it like this, but we dot all the time. 237 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,120 We planner old mistery all the time. 238 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,920 E i Sert of focusing on planning things in the right way whatsapp 239 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,840 that my be try to focus on how you feel the outcomes and that's 240 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,840 problem the and goal of the exploration and not just Bing 241 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,320 control the. All time and coming back to your 242 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,280 questionmark it du stick coraggio. 243 00:15:06,030 --> 00:15:09,910 To be in that state of Curiosity because everytime something 244 00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:15,590 feels a Little beat, unstable, wegle Unknown, we will want to 245 00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:19,350 go back to the plants, we will wont to go back to control and 246 00:15:19,350 --> 00:15:24,470 so been able to pause and say. Actually let me get ready. 247 00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:27,470 Curios about What's going on year about How I feel about all 248 00:15:27,470 --> 00:15:30,630 of the signles let me get ready cureda Sting curage like. 249 00:15:30,870 --> 00:15:34,310 The opposite questionmark su instad of light restraining 250 00:15:34,310 --> 00:15:37,510 yourself in to planning in state of doing things. 251 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,080 All the Times che we met throw the years yours were running a 252 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,320 lot of different things, like a lot of different tracks. 253 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,280 I'm Having this usuly successivo newsletter. 254 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:52,160 I'm i was working at Google IV an Enterpre I brow the Book I 255 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:57,600 doing always wondering, how do you balance Ambition with 256 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,000 experiment the right size? Can you do too many time 257 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,600 experiments? Yes. 258 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,630 Therapy. The same time It's a Bet metter. 259 00:16:12,630 --> 00:16:18,030 But again, and this is why i talk so much about Curiosity, i 260 00:16:18,030 --> 00:16:21,150 really takes being systematity curios about how you feel to 261 00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:25,870 figure outther you arening the right number of experiment or 262 00:16:25,870 --> 00:16:30,310 wether this is too much. There is aspetti with people 263 00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:33,710 were quiet basilient a tendency to push yourself. 264 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,120 To do a lot more that you can do sustainablely because it takes 265 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,280 you longer to realize that something is rong. 266 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:46,160 We're very good at ignorang all of the signs and you see that a 267 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,880 lot in entrepreneurs, per esempio the Matt of the the 268 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,560 workload that the day can sustain the mat stress that the 269 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,280 can susten and it's not because your tecnica capable of 270 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,000 sustaining all of that stress and that workload for a short 271 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,160 period of time that you shod it. Stell, we do it so it ready 272 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,280 requires sping attention to me. This is journaling. 273 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,079 This is my tool to have this conversations with myself where 274 00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:10,800 i can trying be as honest as possibile. 275 00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:14,030 Nvidia asking myself, OK, how are you doing today? 276 00:17:14,030 --> 00:17:19,470 Sometimes just ridin this and to ready answer that questionmark 277 00:17:20,150 --> 00:17:22,670 the first words that come out. I'm Ready. 278 00:17:22,670 --> 00:17:27,319 Tired, I'm exhosted. Willy, amount of staff Dead, you 279 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:31,680 pull of the World e si completa. Si completi you know, sometimes 280 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,360 I can't have a lot of Patrick going on and webcams. 281 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:37,800 I'm I'm really energized. I'm so excited. 282 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,720 I'm so looking Ford to working on the Essen so I have found the 283 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:49,240 burnout is not necessari link to the amunt of work that I have. 284 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,400 It's link to the quality of the work, the Type of work that I 285 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,160 have al solito, sometimes the the environment in cui i work, 286 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,880 the can of people i work with, the canne of expectations that 287 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,320 you have. And for me, for example, if I 288 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,080 have a lot of Agency in my work, a lot of Freedom to make 289 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,160 decisions, love Space to be createve to solve problem i can 290 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:14,160 action, have prevy high workload and be complete OK. 291 00:18:14,870 --> 00:18:17,990 Construms around the way i work or that there is busy work that 292 00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:21,950 to me doesn't make Sense that we cod cut. 293 00:18:21,950 --> 00:18:28,590 I get ready frustrated and I can't get over want with tecnica 294 00:18:28,590 --> 00:18:30,670 less work thank in altre situations. 295 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,680 Because this is not something you can just track with Numbers. 296 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,320 You computer dare una dashboard. I can't have indicators that 297 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,840 tell me if I'm over work in this way. 298 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,560 That's has to do more with Agency than the action quantity 299 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,080 of the work. It requires having some from of 300 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,840 metacognitive. Practice observing your on tat 301 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,800 and you on emotions to be able to know what's going on. 302 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,000 Yeah. I what's about to focus on dat 303 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,000 is well, because the feeling I'm heavy rinow and. 304 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,040 M useful going Deep and death like the experiment part is Coin 305 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:08,400 of like the byproduct of the observing yourself part that's 306 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,720 the hard. Parth like understanding what 307 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,320 you need, what you feel who you are in the end and the 308 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,880 experimentation is away to uncover that part. 309 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,720 Atle, this is the Sense I'm having Ray now hearing you 310 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,760 talking about this why has a person who lies doing sheet i. 311 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,960 Hand up focusing on the experimentation pargonles 312 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,280 because it's funding staff, so it's a. 313 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,880 Good intuition you have because the antireur experimental methes 314 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,960 dai talk avanti in the book is inspired by the Scientific 315 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,880 methhod and the Scientific method on starts with 316 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,870 observation. So you cannot design a good 317 00:19:45,870 --> 00:19:48,270 experiment giusto by being light. 318 00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:51,550 Oh this an idea let me renderly experiment per desting 319 00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:54,630 scientists always observe the current situation. 320 00:19:54,870 --> 00:19:59,510 What is the current data telling us and what is something we cant 321 00:19:59,510 --> 00:20:03,310 infair from this data that will be World exploing in maurite 322 00:20:03,310 --> 00:20:06,830 collected more database based on that you formulato a hypertises 323 00:20:07,230 --> 00:20:10,510 and the New tested and then you make decisions based on that and 324 00:20:10,510 --> 00:20:14,270 so your Absolute right that you need to start from observation. 325 00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:19,150 Andò in origine closed loop to close that experimental Cycle. 326 00:20:19,150 --> 00:20:21,910 Gli unici al so finish with observation. 327 00:20:21,910 --> 00:20:24,310 You need to observe what changed. 328 00:20:24,670 --> 00:20:28,830 Nath you complete the experiment and ortoles changes. 329 00:20:28,830 --> 00:20:31,990 Alined the hyperes da you had or maybe your hypertises 330 00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:36,070 wasncorrect. So i wash wandering is you so 331 00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:39,310 Ive a very Active community do you have some tiny experiment as 332 00:20:39,310 --> 00:20:42,510 you are were of from the people the follow the book or your 333 00:20:42,510 --> 00:20:46,910 community that us substantial Life change from from the 334 00:20:46,910 --> 00:20:50,950 experiment aside from the three that we stated interview it and 335 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:55,190 how that process you feel that overcamp precestination and 336 00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:58,350 actually tryin the old experiment and just saing i One 337 00:20:58,350 --> 00:21:00,270 day I would be the president of the United States. 338 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,200 There. There are so mini experiments in 339 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,160 the next lives community i love. Some examples Tha i really likes 340 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,720 over the past your One of theme West this person che had Lost 341 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,080 touch with his fans and who decide to design a techni 342 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,400 experience and i will message One friend everywender for i 343 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,990 don't remember ha many weeks. Beh, guarda i love the about 344 00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:27,630 that. Is that the the experiment 345 00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:32,350 addressd the Fear of rejection o judgment from his Friends hefal 346 00:21:32,350 --> 00:21:35,830 Lake he hadn't been in touch reception a long time that maybe 347 00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:40,270 dei di wanna talk to Heaven anymore and so he removese from 348 00:21:40,350 --> 00:21:44,870 the equation by Saint I will send One message every week i 349 00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:47,950 the reply good if the dont I've done my Jump right. 350 00:21:47,950 --> 00:21:51,270 I'm not judging the success of the experiment based on the 351 00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:53,590 outcome. Tom showing up and doing IT I'm 352 00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:58,510 in the result of the experiment is that everybody was ready 353 00:21:59,030 --> 00:22:01,670 happy to get a message it sounds ovvio it happened beh I think 354 00:22:01,670 --> 00:22:04,830 forhement ready help hm get over the sphere and Active do it this 355 00:22:04,830 --> 00:22:08,790 also an artist in the community who had stop painting Ford 356 00:22:08,790 --> 00:22:13,910 because you Hat surgery and he ha developt this Fear that she 357 00:22:13,910 --> 00:22:18,070 Lost some of her creative talent because she had able to practice 358 00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:21,310 for a long time sushi design the time experiment for shed i will 359 00:22:21,310 --> 00:22:25,790 go in sit in my studio for. Power everyday and do nothing i 360 00:22:25,790 --> 00:22:29,150 love that because this nothing about presuring herself to 361 00:22:29,150 --> 00:22:32,590 action produce anything just go and sit in her studio and do 362 00:22:32,590 --> 00:22:37,270 nothing and what happened after White got so boarding in her 363 00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:40,950 studio and doing nothing that ci pick up the brushes again and 364 00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:44,510 storied painting again Beach i tallways Beautiful beh so many 365 00:22:44,510 --> 00:22:48,070 different experiments Ive seen experiment frame people quattro 366 00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:51,550 launchter community like the Square dei saded I will host One 367 00:22:51,550 --> 00:22:53,550 zoom call every week about this stop it's and. 368 00:22:53,910 --> 00:22:58,030 People and i two people who show up that's OK. 369 00:22:58,030 --> 00:23:00,830 It's An Operating for me che talk about the stand that I'm 370 00:23:00,830 --> 00:23:03,750 curioso about. I've seen people Stard News 371 00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:07,590 adesso start coaching practice change the Health Reteen One of 372 00:23:07,870 --> 00:23:12,910 my favourite once i when people like oh True experiment had 373 00:23:12,910 --> 00:23:14,950 something and source a lot more work. 374 00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:18,150 I team live know you can experiment with removing 375 00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:19,920 something. Ducking al solito Bean 376 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,800 Experiment, insomma, when i ready like is i will not bring 377 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,840 my Phone in my bathroom for two-s. 378 00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:29,270 So you're removing something, you're only commiting to it for 379 00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:32,270 a short duration, and you observe what happens. 380 00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:37,190 Every single person who trize this One report back da dc. 381 00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:39,510 Positive downstream effects data steep, better productivity, 382 00:23:39,790 --> 00:23:43,390 better welling in General è sempre a simple One rate. 383 00:23:43,790 --> 00:23:46,390 So yes, so mini exmples and timide. 384 00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:50,470 Most interesting once are the once. 385 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:58,760 So Small South tiny that you? Mike, this tried the snowst 386 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,840 trait. I'll just try it. 387 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,640 This only potencial positive ubside to running this 388 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,790 experiment. Whiskey scenario o maby best 389 00:24:06,790 --> 00:24:09,870 Casey scenario io figurati that this doesn't work for you and 390 00:24:10,550 --> 00:24:13,310 know you know. Billy, digital product can be 391 00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:16,150 very hard and sometimes for strading no giusto because the 392 00:24:16,150 --> 00:24:20,590 tech fight is hard po the orso because the affoss you pull into 393 00:24:20,590 --> 00:24:24,830 that sometimes goes to nothing. And that's why Imbec. 394 00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:28,830 After TEN years to working with up scale up and enterprises, we 395 00:24:28,830 --> 00:24:31,910 developt a methology con product head. 396 00:24:32,150 --> 00:24:34,950 Digital companies make the shape of the. 397 00:24:35,870 --> 00:24:38,950 More Clear and have them validate e non so sometimes 398 00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:42,270 build the experiment with theme we make digital product Works 399 00:24:42,350 --> 00:24:47,430 and if you need help with it youcangotowebsitewwwdigitaldot.com 400 00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:50,390 here in descriction below and you can't contact to get help 401 00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:53,590 with your digital product even now that you wrate about the 402 00:24:53,630 --> 00:24:56,910 framework you have all this community using this framework 403 00:24:56,910 --> 00:24:59,550 to try to change the Life and experiment different things. 404 00:24:59,950 --> 00:25:02,910 Do you ever find yourself sleeping back into all abits 405 00:25:03,030 --> 00:25:06,230 like trying to put very rigid goals or. 406 00:25:07,150 --> 00:25:13,070 Thinking about like this Grand plan or this fix identity, how 407 00:25:13,150 --> 00:25:17,550 do you work with that nike? A Hundred percent i can give you 408 00:25:17,550 --> 00:25:18,390 very. Sound esemple. 409 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,840 O no? Very metal but when i send my 410 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:33,440 bookdill for Tang experiment all of me all control freak habbit 411 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,240 kinback rushing this need to be a New York time investiter we 412 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,080 news that mini bux and i need to get Blood that acculate for the 413 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,760 people and ius ready interessanti How I Hat to use 414 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,080 all of the tools in the book. In ordine to not Fall back into 415 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,230 this. It's very comment to Fall back 416 00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:58,950 and to dose. Euromeric responces when 417 00:25:58,950 --> 00:26:04,390 wereface with something that has a lot of pressure, a lot of 418 00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:07,390 stress, but al is. Links to your identity. 419 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,760 I'll about you, but for me usa you wanna things tore this big o 420 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,600 su self worth because the book comes out and it flops 421 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,720 terribile. Ready to you think identity 422 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,640 without thinking about self World right and Sophia had over 423 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,160 the yourse ridin the New over i had developd an identity as the 424 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,840 writer and i had a lot of positive feedbacks my user wis 425 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,000 Great people enjoy and thing it helpful and all of super i fell 426 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,360 like i wures pulling that identity aswrider back on the 427 00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:40,280 table perché now I's writing a book what a people sat action 428 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,120 I'm not suck a good reader my. Work is not what helpful and 429 00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:47,880 what the regret by in the book and what what the whathhefe and 430 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,920 all of data as you sayd tight you Sense of identity witches 431 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,830 tie to you Sense of selfureth. What's the experimentation that 432 00:26:55,830 --> 00:27:01,430 you run to ridebook like that, to not fixading on becoming a 433 00:27:01,430 --> 00:27:03,430 New York Times the seller or nothing? 434 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,680 Too thanks. The first wine was just in the 435 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,400 way i road the Book itself. At first i had red everywhere 436 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,720 that idee. You wanna spend a Little time on 437 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,000 the book everyday and so i trie to apply that penso i sate every 438 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,680 Morning. I wurstel Danna and i wallrite 439 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,320 for One Hour. OK, how let you go? 440 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:26,400 Horrible. Hard. 441 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,080 E so yet on you was it hard per i did try every Morning i will 442 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,960 open my laptop make myself hickup of caffe and go ready 443 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,280 let's right there days were that went well this Great there al so 444 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,640 many days where I would sit in front of my computer douldn't 445 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,240 feel inspired dot fell like I have done enough Research on the 446 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,680 Peticureaus Section thuth i wus trying to Wright and the en of 447 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:53,080 the our i hadend nothing ORP and then what i notizie is that I. 448 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,840 Feel terrible for the rest of. The. 449 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,480 Day. Su, all of my other meetings i 450 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,960 was lesting to people the my mind was after in the 451 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,920 conversation have hawth the with the booking dhat i had reader 452 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,920 anything good the. In the Iving Having denaro with 453 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,160 Friends and al solito not ready begnable toly present. 454 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,440 So i experimented in Stat with the sikely different format and 455 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,360 instaut of saying i will right One our every Morning i Sad i 456 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:21,960 will right five hours every week. 457 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,800 OK. And IT can't happen anytime, 458 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,280 anywhere. Doesn't matter there. 459 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,600 There were too much better fa me mhm mhm because i cod sometime 460 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,680 open my laptop and after five minuti i CO Tell. 461 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,520 Not a good day. Grazie OK? 462 00:28:36,990 --> 00:28:39,350 Let me go and read something. I'll just reads something I'll 463 00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:41,630 take you work a less and tourcast I'll do something else. 464 00:28:41,630 --> 00:28:43,510 That's OK don't you right today that's fine. 465 00:28:44,150 --> 00:28:47,950 And baby on Thirst Day I will open my laptop for readinspired 466 00:28:47,950 --> 00:28:51,990 and I would you two Hour Writing session because i fin i film 467 00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:54,750 like something click and sometimes I would not touch the 468 00:28:54,750 --> 00:28:56,990 book the intere week and then sudet euning. 469 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:05,520 Studenti non stop because i feel inspired sous One experiment at 470 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,160 work ready welfare from the afterworlds beh i douldn't find 471 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,760 it strade away I have to eterate Andrea it Works on the other 472 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,880 part was and again this is a team that ke keep some coming up 473 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,760 in my workshop. It's because It's really been 474 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,400 important for me in termini of thinking about the way i show up 475 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,800 and the way I think about my od success, really observing myself 476 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,840 observing the sickles and notising when i stort carin 477 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,030 about signles. Fino a dare imporrant to me and 478 00:29:32,030 --> 00:29:37,510 so per esempio anytime I would go to the US and i want to an 479 00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:41,070 entrepreneur retreet or conference, I would come back to 480 00:29:41,070 --> 00:29:44,430 Europe and feel like ah, i can't believe Haven fut of that I 481 00:29:44,430 --> 00:29:49,230 haved a long Steam from ebook i don't have a pure Agency i don't 482 00:29:49,230 --> 00:29:53,230 have love this tenks and panec and feel like I'm no doing 483 00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:58,710 enough I would you stake a fu days of observing this and 484 00:29:58,790 --> 00:30:05,470 asking myself what segnals wh. I action care about people 485 00:30:05,470 --> 00:30:07,150 reading the book and finding it healthful. 486 00:30:07,310 --> 00:30:11,870 That's What i care about. I don't action care about being 487 00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:17,430 in the, you know, whatever magazine the New York Times o 488 00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:20,550 Whatever e moneste don't care. I don't mean this. 489 00:30:20,550 --> 00:30:23,670 If IT happened, i wouldn't be happy obusly I would be happy if 490 00:30:23,670 --> 00:30:26,350 it happened per. I'm not going to optimize for 491 00:30:26,350 --> 00:30:30,550 the specific signol because it doesn't action ready matter, OK? 492 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,720 And again, IT ready, asking yourself, what are you 493 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,000 optimizing for? And Ivan, if other very 494 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,840 successful people are optimizing for altri signales, it doesn't 495 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,040 mean unit copy paste to signles unity figure out what are your 496 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,760 own signles of success. No i canc everytime i meat 497 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,000 entrepreneurshed thered more success for the mia and the DUP 498 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,760 trying to think oh wow dei do this, why don't dot this well 499 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,400 like yeah if it's it's easy to falling to the Trap offeso. 500 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,680 How do you say that in English? Like keeping up with the 501 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,880 johnses? Yes. 502 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,720 Psychology School Mimetic design. 503 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,920 And we want it other people want and you know, sometimes it can't 504 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,680 be good II sto feeling some of the things i see other people do 505 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,480 a Great streces of inspiration I would i've not stat about doing 506 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,160 it this way. So a Muthement Saint It's bad to 507 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,280 copy pay something from someone else, it's more but copy pasting 508 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,800 intention di asking yourself does that may Sense do i actiony 509 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,840 want to implemen this in my home system? 510 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,200 In my own workflows because is my idea of success reline with 511 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,440 this person idea of success. I'm chiusa by One Thing. 512 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,760 Do you say before when you were say, I see down five minuti 513 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,720 Riding and i say this not the day, how do you feel? 514 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,200 Decide. DI did not have to Rai for 515 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,680 everyday it fell good, it fell liberating. 516 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,240 Allora the suffering that we have is base on the artificial 517 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,640 pressure da wecreate onurselves and so imost Ford giving myself 518 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,080 a Little patton the back of sing cool you become ready good now. 519 00:32:08,670 --> 00:32:10,430 I'm not pushing yourself for An Hour. 520 00:32:11,470 --> 00:32:13,350 You know that this is not your day. 521 00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:15,670 Let's do something else, this action, do something else. 522 00:32:16,150 --> 00:32:19,110 So. Ya, It's Ready. 523 00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:22,390 But again, listening to yourself, I know how who and 524 00:32:22,390 --> 00:32:25,430 veget sounds, but it's a mussel that you can build. 525 00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:28,190 It's Ready a mustle you can build and you will not. 526 00:32:28,190 --> 00:32:31,190 As if you ignore the signles and you force yourself and you 527 00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:36,550 pusher and you feel of the our you Justine tout and try to not 528 00:32:36,670 --> 00:32:38,950 do it again the day after. Tosti, IT Works. 529 00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:43,470 What your favourite not writing Activity so you see down five 530 00:32:43,470 --> 00:32:46,520 minutes your like not a day. I tried. 531 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,280 I can push True a film misurable or to alther things. 532 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,240 What's your number One go to Activity da two pic in One of 533 00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:03,630 the States. Music On, and I will dance like 534 00:33:03,710 --> 00:33:06,270 now's watching for a più minutes. 535 00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:11,040 Would you dance to? What would you go to Music i 10 536 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:16,120 anni to you later the wis very specific Italian electro Music 537 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,920 Song that forse my God Song when i need. 538 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,200 I don't remember the don't Ive know where the lyrics mean 539 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,160 because. It's the description of. 540 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:30,750 Yeah. Agli judim qui obsessed with One 541 00:33:30,750 --> 00:33:34,030 Song over of you weeks and I would be the Song and I'll move 542 00:33:34,030 --> 00:33:36,830 on and i will be another Song Beyond ill I'll get up i'll 543 00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:44,150 dance ages remind me being City like this remind me that 544 00:33:44,150 --> 00:33:48,830 Ultimate it's OK rate I'm not a New surgent operating on someone 545 00:33:48,830 --> 00:33:52,350 che is ging to die if i don't Perfect perform my job rate now 546 00:33:52,390 --> 00:33:55,920 in this minute. And so I'm just being City, I'm 547 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,000 being playful, I'm heaving fund, I'm reconnecting with my Sense 548 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:04,000 of Joy remining myself of how Lucky I am be able to do therse 549 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,960 work and get up and dance on ever I want you this what is 550 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,040 Great and then i just go and do something else depending on 551 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,600 whatse I have to you that day and that can be a Little 552 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,920 Research writing witch doesn't require the exactheim cont of 553 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,360 Spark of inspiration because the have your data and you just Neet 554 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,000 to Wright it up penso dance a olt easy in that Sense. 555 00:34:24,469 --> 00:34:28,909 Or a Beataing or a Little community building. 556 00:34:28,909 --> 00:34:32,389 Going in a steps Community or talking to my team thing. 557 00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:35,590 What News to be done buthe i usud i feel a lot better after a 558 00:34:35,590 --> 00:34:41,190 Little Woody in my desk. Can Relais it's ree hard to pace 559 00:34:41,230 --> 00:34:45,350 creative work. Sometimes i hand up Writing for 560 00:34:45,469 --> 00:34:50,110 Ours Street and I feel unstoppable some other days if 561 00:34:50,110 --> 00:34:53,190 it is the most misurable experience iver had and. 562 00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:00,480 It's a Mystery. Ma It's a Mystory earthing the 563 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,840 reality about you book is treating failure not as o no i 564 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:10,000 filed is this a bad thing and i will for my Life which i invit 565 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,000 everyone who is listening us right now to to feel buthe as 566 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,440 who sorry but just as data like orry i try is it it in work 567 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,400 essel from the writing do you have a The examples from you 568 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,960 from your community to share I think orso too cant of light 569 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,800 break the stickman of things not going exactly. 570 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,520 As you hopd for. Haveing exeample in the Book le 571 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,760 open because it's in quei people can relait to and. 572 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,560 That's Runcreative work for me was Youtube so something 573 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,160 somehope Captain happingening in the pass Colle of years whis 574 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,160 that everybody around run me cap saing you need Youtube Channel, 575 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,400 Youtube Channel Youtube if you not on Youtube you're not going 576 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,200 wable to Gore you community your business is going to Hell. 577 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,430 Youtube is the future. So thugh me cares nel sede. 578 00:35:59,950 --> 00:36:03,630 OK, let's. Think. 579 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,360 'S talking about. This Youtube. 580 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:14,080 I sate OK let's let's Let me experiment for dut let me give 581 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,760 you a try. And so i design think 582 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,240 experiment. I will publishd One Youtube 583 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,520 video every we cancelled the end of the year. 584 00:36:21,710 --> 00:36:26,160 I think oktober November. And let se what happens. 585 00:36:27,390 --> 00:36:33,150 And i really di like IT. I really di like IT. 586 00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:35,790 The external signons were good, and the Sense that the World 587 00:36:35,790 --> 00:36:38,910 people watching commentaing Living God comments prey 588 00:36:38,910 --> 00:36:41,710 positive. The Channel was growing, so if i 589 00:36:41,710 --> 00:36:44,910 had only pay to the extenal signons the experiment technity 590 00:36:44,910 --> 00:36:50,510 you success but internal signs. I hated IT everytime i had to 591 00:36:50,510 --> 00:36:54,390 sit down in front of the camera and tuck to myself i fell so 592 00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:59,150 uncomporable i fell so first i will not looking fortwo it and 593 00:36:59,150 --> 00:37:04,310 so i desideri to stop and someteople may say this is a 594 00:37:04,590 --> 00:37:09,070 fayeur in the Sense that I did not manage to start and sustain 595 00:37:09,070 --> 00:37:14,350 and graw a Youtube Channel but me if your play the experimental 596 00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:15,600 mindset it. Success. 597 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,440 I don't know. Before running the experiment e 598 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,720 now I know. And now when people tell me you 599 00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,320 need Youtube Channel and my a builder. 600 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,160 Happening. So. 601 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,920 When you approach experiments with this mindset, when you 602 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,550 really. You remove this binary 603 00:37:35,550 --> 00:37:39,510 Definition of success and fare su when you have a very specific 604 00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:43,630 goal outcoming mind for your experiment. 605 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,440 Then U say this is successive i get there and if not this is 606 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,440 fare when you let go of the outcom and the only goal you 607 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,630 have is to learn something you. Zen, as long as you know more 608 00:37:57,870 --> 00:38:00,870 about yourself, about your work, about what you want to do by the 609 00:38:00,870 --> 00:38:02,750 n of the experiment, this is success. 610 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,440 By the way, it's super tringe to talk to a camera like it's One 611 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,880 of the most. I don't. 612 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,800 I can't totally relative every time i try to do that myself. 613 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,720 If there is anyone not in the room like in the building, i 614 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:23,840 need resurance from the is it's ok, you can do that. 615 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,720 Yeah, Ice. I don't know why It's to hard. 616 00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:35,240 But it's Succenture Looks Becaused sydness. 617 00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:39,030 E wised I can't have a conversition Nick this and is 618 00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:43,630 compiuti OK but Iene talking toy camera is ready and so the 619 00:38:43,630 --> 00:38:49,110 reason why is because we use we use Real Time use from the 620 00:38:49,110 --> 00:38:53,790 people we talk to know how are you doing when we talking and so 621 00:38:53,790 --> 00:38:56,670 this is why hear you know you're nothing you're smiling I'm like 622 00:38:56,670 --> 00:38:59,430 oh cash keep going in the Direction and I'm not doing that 623 00:38:59,430 --> 00:39:03,390 in culturating on man your waits very National thing to do were 624 00:39:03,390 --> 00:39:06,710 seeking appruval with the camera you get non of the scuse. 625 00:39:06,830 --> 00:39:10,150 Io di lei in the feedback after the video is going to be publess 626 00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:15,670 and so your effective talking to Wall and is very a Natural for 627 00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:19,670 us and abrain is trying to get to get signs to get feedback and 628 00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:22,990 is nut get anything whiskey is very confusing, One of the main 629 00:39:22,990 --> 00:39:26,150 reasons why we feel so aquardt when talking tour camera. 630 00:39:27,310 --> 00:39:32,590 How do you work with long term gos now from the book, it fears 631 00:39:32,590 --> 00:39:36,110 that a lot of what you're descriving is useful for 632 00:39:36,110 --> 00:39:39,350 Breaking in arsha Breaking a momento where you are in a rat 633 00:39:39,350 --> 00:39:44,790 or you feel you need plining poi what about like beagle starting 634 00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:48,270 a family or by House? Like how do you feel about that 635 00:39:48,270 --> 00:39:52,030 today even if is not covering the book per just by yourself 636 00:39:52,030 --> 00:39:53,750 Life, what you are feeling of this now? 637 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,160 I don't believe have goals but i do you have pagex and I think 638 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,600 it's a big different with a goal again your creating this 639 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,720 password to beat to do this by the date and having this 640 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,880 particure outcome wherees with the project you're working 641 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,720 online on it and you can chip away edets a Little bet every 642 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:15,640 day or every week dependding on on what you want to do i've done 643 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,960 that with Buying House for exple where it's ai OK what meets to 644 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,200 be done this speak you just do the thing that me down the speak 645 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,080 and. Anything READY? 646 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,080 Almost any big project can be Breaking down in this way. 647 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,200 Monster, you remove the artificial goal. 648 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,480 I love that I jemmy think that in Mose caes goals are not 649 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:39,800 helpful now homeful the creeding artificial pressure you're going 650 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,000 to make progressive you just show up and treat it take a 651 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,480 project. So to me the are thing 652 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,840 experiments there aree a way to get started and this is ready 653 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,160 design to get started to figura your system e dei particolarity 654 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,840 healthful in Times of un cernty warry nut qualche shore what the 655 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,680 next step shoult be? On Step's the case, you can 656 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,520 upgrade your experiment to habbit or project o whatver may 657 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,120 Sense. Experiment I would Save for 658 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,360 esemple that my next lives news err is not ready an experiment 659 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,400 anymore. I have experiments within that 660 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,040 news herr sometimes i tried different from it on New things 661 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,760 after fiveing it every week. It's not a ting experiment 662 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,920 anymore, It's story as a tinging experiment you mayd be 663 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,560 experimenting with your Health reteen in ascolto if youd but 664 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,080 the runner the yoga and high you want i meal prepen and i love it 665 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,440 so you can run time. Experiment want you fund 666 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,120 something that Works for you. Thi can become parte of your 667 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,390 habbit and rothms. Have to be an experiment Forever 668 00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:45,070 but if you start noticing that things don't work anymore maybe 669 00:41:45,390 --> 00:41:50,070 Times experiment again and so that's why want you run enough 670 00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:52,910 thing experiments in any i feel like you know what I'm get to 671 00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:56,390 something that feeling it Works Pretty welfare. 672 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,680 Maybe upgrade that to again project to a hubert a routine e 673 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,960 can beati a bigger experiment wc. 674 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,080 It doesn't have to stay athat experimental stage for ever. 675 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,960 OK, so you can graduate to. Yes. 676 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,440 To Hu Habbit ordiscarted if it doesn't. 677 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,240 Fee Wit. So we're Closer to the end of 678 00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:26,920 our interview and i was wdering. Do you have like a practical 679 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,320 first time experiment? Do you want to share with the 680 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:35,040 viewers something that you maybe red from your community or you 681 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,320 trie your self if you this is a good star like you want to try 682 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,680 the framework, this is the thing. 683 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,080 So i never ever evercome the specific experiments perché i 684 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,040 will go against the antire idea. What i recome and doing to get 685 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,160 started is I have an exercise in the book da lei col self 686 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,680 anthropology and that's really about spending twenty Four 687 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,110 hours. Observing your Life pretende 688 00:42:58,110 --> 00:43:01,550 your anthropologist for twenty Four hours take a Little notes 689 00:43:01,550 --> 00:43:04,670 thukan be in your notebook thu can be on your Phone and il nome 690 00:43:04,670 --> 00:43:09,430 taking up and as yourself what gives me Energy what Dreams my 691 00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:13,310 Energy when i my excited and entusiastic what are the 692 00:43:13,310 --> 00:43:16,750 meetings where i want go and hid in a corner because i hate being 693 00:43:16,750 --> 00:43:20,910 here just asking yourself this questions without Eni assuction. 694 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,920 So pretendering da your discovering dislife there is 695 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,560 yours for the very first time. I garanti you that if you do 696 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,880 that for twenty-four hours you will notice things what ex 697 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,000 experimenting with you will notice that you are things than 698 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,440 you's been doing at the routine or habbit da you never 699 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:43,390 intenttion di considerare. Your Automatic patterns in your 700 00:43:43,390 --> 00:43:47,710 Life what means you can experiment, you can try 701 00:43:47,710 --> 00:43:50,710 different way to dot. And when you design your first 702 00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:54,110 experiment, i always tell people please, please, please keep it 703 00:43:54,110 --> 00:43:56,790 tiny. Just One tiny experiment at the 704 00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:58,950 beginning so you can see what Works. 705 00:43:59,190 --> 00:44:01,630 If you experimenting with a thousand different things at the 706 00:44:01,630 --> 00:44:04,550 same time is gonna to be really hard to know what variable are 707 00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:07,910 having an impact. So keep it simple, keep it very 708 00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:10,960 very Small. And Dance if you wanna try a 709 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,240 secca and thank you experiment or if you wanna go a Little 710 00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:16,800 bigger with this One, ora as you set just descrive it have 711 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,680 doesn't work for you. Sono insted of suggesting some 712 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,160 count of random experiment your suggestin star with observing 713 00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:25,480 wish. By the way the very first part 714 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,000 of the book. So if anyone is talking for the 715 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,800 we will link it and. From there you can star wdering 716 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:38,080 i mud try this ormai try that to change How I feel or do i relate 717 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,320 with some part of my of my dayly routine? 718 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,480 Is. Adesso. 719 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,920 The question the started this podcast is un Italian 720 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,280 questionmark witches cosa sposta we cant of like lucyly translate 721 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,560 to what does move the needle? Ovvio there is a lot of things 722 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,240 to move the needle but if you have to pick One in your Life 723 00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:03,280 that significare move the needle in terms of getting what you 724 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,560 Wanted in get Closer to who you want to be. 725 00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:11,710 What is it? Curiosity, Curiosity, Haswell, 726 00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:15,110 move the needle fro me. Been curious about How I feel 727 00:45:15,110 --> 00:45:16,510 being curious about How I spend my time. 728 00:45:16,510 --> 00:45:21,150 Been curios about other people. Been curios about ideas and 729 00:45:21,310 --> 00:45:24,950 being reality. Radical coraggiously. 730 00:45:25,390 --> 00:45:31,480 Curious about Everything. Thank all for your time. 731 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,680 You can find tany experiment I think in Italy on Amazon. 732 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,200 It's not in ting it, but we will get there and. 733 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,960 Thank you for your time allora, and good luck with your next 734 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,600 thank thank. Experience. 735 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,710 Thank you. Interview like the video 736 00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:51,670 subscrive the Youtube Channel we have a New interview every two 737 00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:54,310 week if you are on Spotify a now don't don't forget to live Fire 738 00:45:54,310 --> 00:45:57,990 Stars valution on the podcast i really help me grow the Channel 739 00:45:58,070 --> 00:45:59,550 and c. In your cuple of weeks to 740 00:45:59,550 --> 00:46:01,670 discover cosa sposta. Ciao.