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All right. 
We are excited to have two of 

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our guests here who have been 
here for a long time at Lifegate

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now, you know, and they've been 
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don't know since we moved 
Alabama, I want to say so we're 

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we're super excited to have 
brother Jason's sister Rachel 

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Brister here with us today all. 
Right, glad, glad to be here. 

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Looking forward to it here. 
With you guys. 

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Yeah, long time, long, long 
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We were very young when we first
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It's been a while. 
I can't remember exactly when at

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Athens, when it was we met, but 
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think we were. 
We figured out 2007. 2007 or 8. 

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That's when we when we first 
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Year. 
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So you guys were shorter than me
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me. 
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were like my Sunday school 
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weren't you? 
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well, So it's pretty wild. 
I love seeing you guys growing 

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up and you know, seeing you as 
children and then now as adults 

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living for the Lord is just 
brings tears to my eyes truly. 

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That's awesome. 
So super excited to talk about 

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this. 
You know, kind of get to know 

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both of you better and a lot of 
people, you know, some of us 

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know part of your story, but you
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dive in and maybe get to know a 
little bit more about you and 

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know how God's worked in your 
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Who would like to kind of go 1st
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bit about your life? 
Flip a coin or why don't you go 

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ahead? 
Yeah, I can go ahead and start 

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it and just kind of give you a 
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of a my, my testimony, where I'm
from, how how I ended up, how I 

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ended up here. 
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Mississippi, so where I was born
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first six years or so in my 
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And actually my dad was a 
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So growing up as APK in a 
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So I hear a lot of things you 
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years of being the PKS and like,
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grow up in a church plant, it 
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grew up in, but always there at 
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Same. 
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of times cleaning the churches 
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my mom and dad with their 
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church bulletin to hand out each
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I'm not sure. 
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my dad, well, both my mom and 
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he was the preacher also. 
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that age when before I started 
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with my mom when she wasn't 
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times during the during the week
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my dad. 
He drove a truck at the time for

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like a, a plant nursery like 
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Farms, that kind of thing. 
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that. 
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days with him, like on the road 
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But but you know, had a great 
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Mississippi. 
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before I turned 7, we moved to 
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My dad actually took a church at
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here Harvest Baptist Church. 
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got saved in the Baptist Church 
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the father, Son and Holy Spirit 
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And you know that's that was 
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You know, that was, that's how I
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was taught. 
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different, didn't know any of 
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So we're there for a while and 
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in Ardmore and that's where I 
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But so I guess that was in 1992 
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And like I said, I've been 
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Ended up graduating school 
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there at First Baptist in 
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Like I said, just living what I 
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But I will say as I got older, 
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you know, there was certain 
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me at the time of, you know, I'd
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I'd said a prayer and accepted 
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And I've been baptized before, 
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thought of once saved, always 
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I don't know that just, you 
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a little bit. 
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this be? 
How can this be true? 

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You know, how can because you 
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with and I'll say myself 
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on church on Sundays. 
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you wasn't doing the things you 
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mean nothing, nothing bad, you 
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probably not where I needed to 
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But just the thought of, you 
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things but still believe, you 
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I don't know, just it bother me,
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enough that I was out looking 
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But it wasn't long after high 
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She was I was working at the 
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And that's where I'm at Rachel. 
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contrary to the rumors that Cam 
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years, I did not meet Rachel at 
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So that definitely, definitely 
not Yes, so, but, but yeah. 

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her. 
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Church in Athens. 
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church. 
I was as as you've heard before 

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on these podcasts, this was 
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I was also chasing a girl, you 
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Yeah. 
Let's go, you know? 

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Sure. 
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You did tell me you had to 
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dad before you started chasing 
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Oh. 
Yes, that is true. 

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That is true. 
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store. 
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noticing she always hey, this 
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skirts. 
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So I went home and asked my dad.
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interested. 
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coming in the store, so I but 
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I mean, what, what do they 
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What's their religion? 
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could be, could be Pentecostal, 
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He named off a couple, you know,
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question for him. 
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She shaves her legs. 
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Why that why that was the 
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priorities, right? 
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that might have been a deal 
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I don't know. 
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kind of laughed. 
He said, he said, well, son, I 

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don't know, You'll have to go 
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you know. 
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here we are. 
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answers that question. 
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Funny. 
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Thank goodness. 
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So I guess that's that's kind of
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Kind of like the intersection. 
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How did you grow up? 
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was your experience? 
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childhood, but my parents, I've 
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Pentecostal. 
My parents actually were Baptist

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up until the point when I think 
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born, they said they started 
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Jason said that there's 
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know, and just got a hunger and 
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researching things and studying 
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And they were going to their 
pastor and different people that

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they trusted and saying, what is
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You know what, what is speaking 
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this, it says, you know, be 
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And they were, you know, trying 
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hunger to learn and get draw 
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and actually even told them they
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if they kept pursuing that line 
of thought, you know, And so mom

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and dad said they started trying
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started praying and searching at
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Ghost in their living room. 
Oh, wow, yes. 

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After multiple, multiple days of
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and studying and I had others 
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family members were coming over.
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sister, Angie and Tony were 
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And mom and dad said, we were so
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People would walk in our house 
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And she said, I guess we 
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asked him, Mom, are we ever 
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They were just so caught up in 
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know, And so that's a good 
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and came to know the fullness, 
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We're just on fire. 
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have found the truth that you 
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you might, I might take it for 
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it is to know the Lord and, and 
to know the truth. 

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You know, that that I just feel 
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is the way to live and him 
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and having experienced a 
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had a really strong appreciation
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And they were just wonderful 
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You know, dad was an 
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several businesses and just a 
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And, you know, I just always saw
his Bible, him reading his Bible

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and highlighting his Bible 
actually have one of his Bibles.

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That's awesome that before he 
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there anything you want that 
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She's making a list, you know, 
because that's just how she was.

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And I said I really want one of 
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That's that's the one thing I 
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and. 
No, you're pretty fun. 

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It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, 
it's really a strong statement 

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of who he was, you know, as a 
person, the impact he had on 

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your family, the impact he had 
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And that's, that's, it's 
admirable. 

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So that we all trying to hold 
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We're all trying to hold that 
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I mean, I want to, I want to be 
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you know what I mean? 
I want to be that person who 

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holds that banner up that that 
my kids know that, you know, 

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that whatever comes next, you 
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person of faith. 
I'm sure you guys feel that same

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way. 
You know, most definitely you, 

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you, you feel like, do you feel 
like that, like that you, that's

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something that drives you. 
You want to be that person for 

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your family and your kids. 
Most definitely. 

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And, you know, I feel like I 
can't live up to, you know, what

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he was. 
But I am striving to and, you 

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know, trying to be that example.
And I hope one day my kids ask 

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for my Bible. 
You know, that would be a deep 

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honor if that happened. 
But yeah, they were both just 

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wonderful and just great 
examples, you know, not perfect 

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by any means, you know, but I'm 
just very, very thankful to have

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had such wonderful parents for 
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And so I guess growing up you, 
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I guess you grew up. 
Did it? 

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Did you, did you, did you feel 
like when you're growing up that

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the faith was yours or did you 
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parents whenever you're growing 
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Does that make sense what I'm 
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Yes, it most definitely does. 
And I would say both. 

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You know, there had to come a 
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full ownership of it myself. 
But yeah, when you're a kid, 

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you're just kind of doing what 
your parents tell you. 

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And dad preached, he was not a 
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And we've got some of his 
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We actually tried to get it off 
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recently? 
And try to save it into a better

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format. 
Easier format to to access, you 

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know. 
That's really cool. 

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Yeah, and it's so good that so 
awesome to be able to hear his, 

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you know, messages now. 
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thing. 
I know you guys are going to 

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really appreciate that about 
your dad. 

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Absolutely. 
As time goes on, yeah. 

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But so growing up in in the 
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year. 
So I was going to just share, 

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you know, when I came to know 
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would always go to Alabama youth
Camp. 

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And so it was in 1991. 
I was 9. 

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Almost. 
No, it's 10, yeah, 10 years old 

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in June, June 10th that I 
received the gift of the Holy 

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Ghost. 
And you know, it wasn't AI kind 

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of was just expecting to receive
it sometime, you know? 

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So just that different church 
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and pray and everything. 
And that night I remember, I 

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mean, I can remember it plain as
day. 

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Like I thought I really, really 
want the Holy Ghost. 

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I was a little shy and so I kind
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over on the side. 
I didn't tell anybody or 

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anything. 
I just went over to a wall, 

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actually just over, over on the 
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side of the church. 
And I just started repenting and

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asking God to give me the gift 
of the Holy Ghost. 

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And I'll tell you, man, he did. 
I had no doubts, you know, and 

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like I said, there was nobody 
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when I came to and there was a 
crowd of people around 

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worshipping, you know, so I just
kind of lost myself and the 

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beautiful presence of the Lord 
as a 10 year old, you know? 

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So I truly know without a shadow
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children, it can touch adults 
and touch anyone of any age. 

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But the way I describe it was I 
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somehow inside my head, and I 
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Like, I knew I was glowing. 
I think I even looked in the 

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mirror to check. 
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sleep, you know, I remember 
calling my mom and dad 

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afterwards and sharing the news,
and they're crying and 

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rejoicing, you know? 
And I was just like, kept 

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speaking in tongues all 
throughout the evening back into

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our dorm room, you know, just 
didn't want to stop. 

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Yeah, you really got a hold of 
the Lord. 

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I really did. 
And it's just, it's just so 

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good. 
There's nothing like it. 

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Absolutely. 
Do you, do you, did you kind of 

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hold on to that through your 
teenage years or did you ever 

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have like that, those moments of
doubt, I guess, or did you just 

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kind of hold on to that 
throughout? 

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Well, like, like you say, nobody
is perfect, certainly. 

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But I never wanted to walk away 
from the Lord. 

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Never. 
I made and still don't, you 

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know? 
Yeah, He's so good to me. 

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I just can't imagine living any 
other way, you know? 

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He's so good and you go through 
hard times that I don't know how

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people that go through tough 
times make it without, you know,

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the Lord's strength. 
Absolutely. 

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Because I know I couldn't. 
And you can attest to that too, 

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Hun. 
Right. 

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Right. 
Absolutely. 

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It's the only thing that'll 
bring you through. 

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But yeah. 
And so, you know, I guess we go 

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through that and we, you know, 
kind of get you through the 

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teenage years and that's where 
you meet Jason. 

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Right, that's what you were 
asking me. 

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Yes. 
So the teenage years, I, I 

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witnessed a lot of people in my 
youth group and just 

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acquaintances going through some
tough time. 

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I'm talking drugs. 
We had some people that come in 

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that were recovering drug 
addicts in our youth group, 

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young people and you know, they 
were good witnesses to those 

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that are we're going through 
that type thing. 

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They, I feel like they really 
helped a lot of people stay away

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from that life. 
But but that was kind of almost 

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feel like more common or maybe 
I've just gotten old and I don't

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see it as much. 
But yeah, it's pretty common. 

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People were messing around and 
that kind of thing and, and 

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trying to live that kind of 
lifestyle. 

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But I never wanted to and didn't
ever try to go that route. 

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You know, I just thought my 
daddy would kill me for one. 

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Didn't want to disappoint him, 
but just didn't have a desire to

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do that. 
You know, I, I feel like most my

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whole life I've wanted to please
the Lord, even though I know I 

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messed up. 
I've tried to be quick to 

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repeat, you know, and, and make 
sure, cuz just like my dad, I 

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feel like God, you know, it's my
father also. 

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And I don't want to disappoint 
him, you know, either. 

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But sure enough, yeah, I was 17 
as I was going in L&S to shop 

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because my mom would send us 
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groceries. 
Was there any other grocery 

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store? 
No, no, no, there was not. 

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That was the only one. 
And when I would go in to shop, 

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I had noticed there was a nice 
looking guy, dark hair and blue 

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eyes. 
I didn't know his name, but I 

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thought, you know, he's good 
looking. 

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I just, you know, like all 
teenagers, you know, this is 

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somebody's cute, right? 
And so one day, probably for a 

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few weeks, I'd walk into the 
store and I'd hear over the 

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loudspeaker Jason come to the 
front. 

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And I thought. 
I had people working for me. 

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See you. 
Might you might share what you 

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did? 
Had my had my eyes, my scalps 

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out. 
You know, it's like so she come 

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in. 
Smart man, don't leave it up to 

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chance. 
That's. 

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Right. 
Hey, if she comes in, you'll 

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call me so. 
So that's awesome, yeah. 

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Yeah, it was so strange to come 
in, Jason, come to the front. 

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So, you know, I was just 
shopping. 

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Well, of course, guys, this day 
I went in, I had been helping my

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grandmother with a yard sale and
I felt like it looked horrible. 

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You know, I was in my I've been 
up at 5:00 AM working this yard 

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sale and they sent me down there
to get baking soda. 

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I think. 
I'm not even sure what we were 

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doing with it. 
But so I'm shopping and all of a

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sudden the cashier comes walking
up to me and says, hey, do you 

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know Jason Brister? 
I said, no, ma'am, I don't. 

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And she said, well, he, he 
thinks you're cute and he wants 

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to meet you. 
And I said, well, I don't know 

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who he is. 
You know, it's just kind of like

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what I was. 
I was so shocked, I didn't know 

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what to do, you know? 
And she said, wait a minute, I'm

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just going to go get him. 
And I was thinking, what? 

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Not today. 
Today of all days. 

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Yeah. 
And so sure enough, she can walk

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him back a few minutes later 
with Jason by her side. 

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And I was like, oh, it's a 
pretty blue eyed guy. 

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Hey, there you go. 
Pretty blue eyed. 

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Guy, that's right. 
And the rest may be. 

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History, I don't know if you 
have a take on that. 

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No, that's. 
That was good. 

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I told her that I would. 
I was going to wait till she 

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come up to the front to to talk 
to her. 

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And she was like, no, you won't,
you won't do it. 

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So I'm just going to go back 
there and do it now. 

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So. 
So I'm glad she did. 

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Yeah, I met. 
She turned out by the time she 

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got up there, I don't know, but.
Got to take a shot and. 

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So you started kind of going to 
church with her then, like you 

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said I did? 
Yep. 

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Yep, Probably within the next 
week or two. 

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Yeah. 
After I met her, talked a little

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bit, and then, yeah, she had 
invited me to church 

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immediately. 
So I was like, yeah, again. 

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Yeah, yeah, That's where she 
wants to go. 

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Let's go, you know? 
So, so I went and I'll tell you 

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the first time I went, it was. 
I remember coming home. 

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Like thinking, Oh my gosh, these
people are crazy. 

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What are they doing? 
I imagine. 

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Service was a little different 
than service was a little 

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different. 
You know I'm. 

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Used to, you know, the head 
nods, the occasional Amiens, you

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know, and if you raise your 
hand, it's because you want 

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somebody to call on you, you 
know, it's like like in class or

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something. 
So, so yeah, it was totally 

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different experience. 
So, so it took me a while to get

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to get used to it cuz we get, I 
started going to his own Sunday 

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nights. 
I still go to my church on 

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Sunday mornings and I go with 
her on Sunday nights. 

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And so it took AI mean it took 
months to, to kind of get 

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comfortable and, you know, 
comfortable with the service 

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and, and, and the worship and, 
and that kind of thing because 

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it was just so different, so 
opposite from what I was used 

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to. 
But, you know, the more the more

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I went and the more I was 
hearing, you know, it was, it 

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kind of made me start thinking 
more about the what I was 

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looking, what I was looking for,
the thoughts I was having about 

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once saved, always saved. 
You know, is this, that's all 

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you got to do. 
You know, I'm saved. 

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So go do whatever I want to now 
kind of things which I didn't 

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didn't believe, but but the more
I got, the more I attended with 

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her, the more I got into it. 
You know, then I started going 

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on Sunday mornings and Sunday 
nights and I kept hearing this. 

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Acts 2 message, you know, so I'm
like, so all right, I got to, I 

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hear it. 
I see what everybody's doing. 

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Let me try to start studying 
this on my own. 

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And so I start looking, I'm 
seeing the gifts of the Spirit 

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and, and this, these things. 
And so I, I asked my dad about 

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it, you know, and he's, you 
know, has the, well, you know, 

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it's some people have gifts of 
that, you know. 

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Well, it turns out that when he 
was a child, he actually went to

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a Pentecostal church, but he, he
prayed for the Holy Ghost, but 

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never, never received it. 
And as he grew older, you know, 

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kind of went towards the, the 
Baptist faith. 

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But so he had, he had an 
understanding of it. 

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And you knew what I was talking 
about. 

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And so the more, you know, I 
kept going with her, the more I 

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kept studying. 
And I know I've told Rachel this

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and a few of them. 
But as I was studying at my 

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parents house one night, I was 
in the Acts, I was reading and 

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it's the only time this has ever
happened. 

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But I promise there was a spirit
that come in that bedroom with 

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me. 
I was reading and also like the 

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room got like like so hot, you 
know, like I mean I just start 

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like sweating I feel, but you're
sweating, but you have chills at

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the same time. 
And it's just like you can tell 

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there's something there with me.
You know, this first time I've 

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ever experienced that. 
I'm like 19 years old, maybe 20.

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Something like that scared me to
death. 

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So what do I do? 
Shut my Bible? 

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Go to sleep, right? 
You know, try to go to sleep 

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because I'm like, Oh my gosh, 
what is this? 

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So there is no doubt in my mind 
that night that that was the 

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devil. 
He knew I was on to something. 

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Maybe I was just going to figure
something out and he was there 

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to shut. 
It down and he. 

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Did he succeeded that night? 
But. 

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Later on. 
He ended up he lost in the end, 

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you know, but thank you, Jesus, 
yes, but yeah, kept. 

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Going to. 
Church and like I said, studying

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and eventually it's about a year
later I think I was having Bible

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studies with her family and with
brother Mullins, her dad, and he

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was showing me some stuff in the
Bible and it just it started 

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making sense or makes sense. 
So then it's one Sunday night at

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00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,480
the at the old church in Athens.
I don't know if y'all know Barry

445
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,160
Tate, if y'all remember him. 
He he was right there with me 

446
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,160
and I give him a lot of credit 
still to this day. 

447
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,360
He hadn't talked to him in a 
while, but he was right there 

448
00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:30,880
with me praying and praying and 
praying and yeah, finally, 

449
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000
finally had a breakthrough. 
Got the Holy Ghost that night 

450
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,120
and I think it's about a a week 
later actually, her dad actually

451
00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:41,200
baptized me. 
Oh, wow, that's awesome at first

452
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,840
church because I think Brother 
Kraft was out of town or 

453
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,920
something. 
But but yes, that's so that's a 

454
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,920
great memory for me, not only 
getting the Holy Ghost, but then

455
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,360
having her dad be the one to 
baptize me. 

456
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,400
So yeah, that's really cool. 
Great, great. 

457
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,320
Time. 
Great memory. 

458
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,200
So yeah, that is really. 
Awesome. 

459
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,760
I didn't know that at all. 
Yeah, that's really cool. 

460
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,880
That's really cool. 
When I think of you guys, I 

461
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,640
think of family. 
Honestly, you guys are for one 

462
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,080
shining examples of parents. 
What I try to be everyday and 

463
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,960
fail a whole lot because you 
know, well, my kids are a lot, a

464
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,240
lot worse than yours. 
That's the difference, you know,

465
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,520
But on on the note of family, 
you both have had great examples

466
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,680
of parents that have put a lot 
into your life. 

467
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,920
And I think something I'd want 
to ask you guys is. 

468
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,240
That that has. 
Carried y'all into adulthood 

469
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:37,440
where you are have such a a 
landmark of faith and an example

470
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,080
of how to parent people then how
do you turn around and channel 

471
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,000
that into your voice? 
You know, as you're getting them

472
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,880
to grow up. 
And that's that's not even just 

473
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,360
for our listeners, but for me as
can as a as a parent seeking 

474
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:53,520
advice, but you probably. 
Agree with me that we're sitting

475
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,160
over here thinking, is he 
talking about us? 

476
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,720
Yeah, I don't know. 
About this great parenting thing

477
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,080
that's like we're just. 
You know, all you see is your 

478
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,840
faults and failures, right? 
Right. 

479
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:11,280
Yeah, But no, as far as 
parenting, that is probably the 

480
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:16,920
most difficult thing you'll ever
do, in my opinion, but the most 

481
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,840
rewarding thing also. 
Would you agree, Hon? 

482
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,760
Yes. 
Yeah. 

483
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,160
I. 
Think, I mean, yeah, definitely.

484
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:27,120
There's times when you'll get a 
question and you don't know the 

485
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:31,160
answer, you don't even know how 
to answer or to be something so 

486
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,680
off the wall that you look at 
each other and like you do your 

487
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,520
eyes, you know, you'll roll your
eyes or make some, make some 

488
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,520
motion to each other. 
That's like, OK, this is 

489
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,640
something we got to. 
We'll figure this out, you know,

490
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,440
and, and have to let you know, 
but. 

491
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,640
Yeah, but lots of. 
Prayer for sure. 

492
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:55,800
And then my dad and mom, when we
were kids, they used to pay us 

493
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,440
to read the Bible. 
Oh wow. 

494
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,600
I don't know if I've ever 
shared. 

495
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,960
That with you guys. 
But yeah, Dad and mom thought it

496
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,840
was so important that and we 
didn't have a lot of money when 

497
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,240
I was a kid, so it was very 
important to them. 

498
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:13,040
But they would pay us. 
I think it was a penny or $0.10.

499
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,480
It wasn't much at all. 
For each chapter we read must 

500
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,560
have been $0.10. 
And we had the chart where you 

501
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,880
read the Bible through in a 
year. 

502
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:28,480
And so I actually have an old 
one that I found back from 1990,

503
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,040
three, 1994. 
So I had to be, I brought it to 

504
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,240
show y'all. 
I had to be 13 and 14 when I was

505
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,800
doing this bread chart. 
And so that's something we've 

506
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,120
tried to have our boys do as 
well. 

507
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:44,800
They get up in the morning and 
of course they have audio now, 

508
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,960
but they'll listen along to the 
Bible course when they couldn't 

509
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,440
read. 
That worked out great too, but 

510
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,600
they're both, they're 14 and 10 
now, so they can read now, but 

511
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,080
they would success. 
Yeah, don't. 

512
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,040
Talk about our Alabama 
education. 

513
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,040
But they do get up and they're 
reading the Bible through and I 

514
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,840
think this might be their maybe 
even the third year to do that. 

515
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,000
So they do that. 
They both have, you know, some 

516
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,360
devotion books that they'll that
they'll do on their own. 

517
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:18,600
And we've been trying to do the 
Bible study. 

518
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,640
We're actually in the middle of 
the Bible study. 

519
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,400
Which one is it exploring God's 
Word? 

520
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,520
Exploring God's word that we're 
going through with. 

521
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,800
Them currently, and we don't 
have a schedule for it. 

522
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,720
It's just like, OK, we got some 
time here. 

523
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,400
Let's let's spend a little time 
on this. 

524
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:36,320
And, you know, they're taking 
notes and doing things, but I 

525
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,160
feel like they also just have a 
hunger for the Lord. 

526
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,040
And I think that's just their 
prayer that maybe that's been, 

527
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,080
you know, something. 
But and, and I, I would give 

528
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,760
credit to pastor and sister 
Penton and also Lexi and the 

529
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,520
other people that have spoken in
their life, Seth and others, you

530
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,400
know, as they've grown up, 
because I know it's not just all

531
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,600
of us for sure, other family 
members that have spoken in 

532
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,040
their lives. 
But, but I think they really do 

533
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,520
have a desire to serve the Lord.
They've both been filled with 

534
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,000
the Holy Ghost and both of them 
have been baptized. 

535
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,040
And I would say that's the best 
days of our life, wouldn't you 

536
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,800
agree? 
Yeah. 

537
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,440
Yeah. 
I mean, that's. 

538
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,080
The that's that's the reward, 
you know, that that you were 

539
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,080
talking about is knowing that 
they're both, let's say, walking

540
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,080
in the truth, you know so. 
And, and you know, we've told 

541
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,200
him you're going to mess up, 
you're going to fail, Try your 

542
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,000
best to be quick to repent, 
because you know, the longer you

543
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,040
stay in that situation, the 
harder it is to get out. 

544
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,200
My sister Mary's, I have to give
her a quote. 

545
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,880
She always says sin will take 
you farther than you want to go 

546
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,120
and it'll keep you longer than 
you think it would. 

547
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:46,760
You know, that's her quote. 
And the boys, they're just the 

548
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,520
joy of our, of our life. 
And we, I tell them on a regular

549
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,600
basis, you know, I just want us 
to always be close. 

550
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,720
I want you guys to know if y'all
mess up, you know, come to us, 

551
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,760
you know, we'll forgive you and 
help you work through the 

552
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,760
things, but just, you know, 
encouraging them to pray. 

553
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,960
We do pray as a family every day
together, some on the way to 

554
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,520
school, just I mean, even here 
tonight we were like y'all pray 

555
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,080
for us. 
We're nervous, but both of them 

556
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,240
will just break into prayer. 
And you know, I forgot to 

557
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,280
mention spark. 
That has been a huge influence 

558
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,200
on Jude. 
Awesome, huge. 

559
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,480
I mean he, you know, we'll get 
up. 

560
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,960
He's planning to do a little 
sermonette, you know, and his 

561
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,000
teacher said that Amber and 
Gabriel said that he asked if he

562
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,800
could, you know, speak. 
Oh, really? 

563
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,200
That's awesome. 
Yeah, so he wrote. 

564
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,640
He wrote a little message all 
about love and is prepared to 

565
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,760
give that to the rest of the 
Spark kids. 

566
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,160
And then Mason also just writes 
Bible studies. 

567
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,800
He and his cousin Liam have a 
group they call M&L Bible Study.

568
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,240
And it's the most precious 
thing. 

569
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,560
We will be at a family 
gathering. 

570
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,880
I'm talking about Thanksgiving, 
Christmas. 

571
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,240
Whatever anytime we get. 
Together you'll walk in there 

572
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,800
and those two will be up 
preaching to the other cousins 

573
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,160
having. 
Church. 

574
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,440
I love it. 
They're having church. 

575
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,080
They're singing, That's so cool.
You know, they're they're. 

576
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,080
Actually really worshipping. 
Yeah, amazing. 

577
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,600
And I'm so thankful, like you 
said, for family. 

578
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,120
It's, it's, you can live for the
Lord on your own, but wow, isn't

579
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,320
it much easier when you got 
family and friends that 

580
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,720
encourage you and help you live 
that this life. 

581
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,360
It really is. 
But yes, they're just the best 

582
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,080
things that have ever happened 
to us. 

583
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,560
So thankful for them, but it's a
lot of failing and repenting. 

584
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,640
And we we asked them to forgive 
us. 

585
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,520
I think that's important. 
Modeling repentance. 

586
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,360
Yeah, absolutely. 
And, you know, when we're 

587
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,960
praying together at night, we 
repent in front of them, you 

588
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,280
know, so that they can. 
You really can't teach. 

589
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,040
Humility a different way, right?
Unless you're showing it right. 

590
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,320
Exactly and. 
When I messed up with them, 

591
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,160
which I do, you know, and lose 
my temper occasionally. 

592
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,240
And I, I will go back and 
apologize, you know, and say, 

593
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,840
you know, maybe you were in the 
wrong, but I was also in the 

594
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,360
wrong in the way that I handled 
this. 

595
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,000
And, you know, I'm sorry. 
I love you. 

596
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,720
My love will never change for 
you. 

597
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,680
But I wish I would have handled 
it differently. 

598
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,360
And let's try to move forward 
and correct the problem, you 

599
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,440
know, without any, you know, 
anger and things. 

600
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,280
But yeah, being a parent is, is,
is tough, but so wonderful. 

601
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,280
Most definitely. 
And thank you guys for that 

602
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,160
because like even the you, you 
guys are so intentional with 

603
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,480
everything you do. 
And I mean, it's cool you 

604
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,480
saying, oh, we, we failed and 
asked them for forgiveness and 

605
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,720
all. 
And that's a part of it. 

606
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,440
I've, I've learned, especially 
even with just my boys. 

607
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,360
But I think for myself, what I'm
going to take from that is the 

608
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,000
intentionality that you are 
putting forward to get involved 

609
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,320
with the word of God at the 
church and then the community of

610
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,160
it. 
So much so that their family 

611
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,320
reunions, preaching and having 
church, which is awesome, you 

612
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,880
know, Oh, Bible quiz. 
And I will get Bible quiz and. 

613
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,040
Shout out to Bible Quiz. 
And go into just starting. 

614
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,600
That. 
So we're excited about that. 

615
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,280
Yeah, yeah. 
Goodness, I think. 

616
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,880
That's one of the best things 
that that you can do for your 

617
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,240
kid. 
So I'll ask you. 

618
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:13,680
So you received the Holy Ghost 
and got baptized and yeah after 

619
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,680
that how long was it you 
thinking to like y'all got 

620
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:23,920
married I guess after that so. 
That was that was in 19 August 

621
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:29,760
of 99 when I got the Holy Ghost,
and then it was three years 

622
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,280
later, August of 2002, when we 
got married also. 

623
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,680
Yeah, from start to finish. 
We kind of date met and dated 

624
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,480
for about four years before we 
got married. 

625
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,320
We were both in college and so 
we were trying to finish that up

626
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,080
before we got married. 
Even though we ended up getting 

627
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,880
married. 
You had one semester left, one 

628
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,160
semester left. 
Of of school, yeah. 

629
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,080
And I will. 
Say that I had been taught all 

630
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,920
my life not to marry someone 
that doesn't believe you know, 

631
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,200
not to be unequally yoked 
together. 

632
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,280
And I do think that's important.
I would encourage all of our 

633
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,600
young people to find someone 
that, you know, believes like 

634
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,960
you. 
With that said, it's so strange.

635
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,719
When I met Jason, I instantly 
thought something is different 

636
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,880
about this guy, you know, And I 
truly think it was just a love 

637
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,159
for for God. 
He really had a love for God. 

638
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,600
And, and he was like you said, 
not certain that he had the 

639
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,040
fullness, you know, in his life 
already because he, he said he 

640
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,920
felt like he was, you know, 
looking for something else. 

641
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,560
And maybe, maybe I could just 
tell that, but I kept kind of 

642
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,440
arguing with myself like, well, 
Lord, I really feel something 

643
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,199
for this guy. 
But I know I might not should, 

644
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:41,679
because we're not exactly 
believing the same, you know, 

645
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,320
and, but I think I, we were in 
the minority, not the majority. 

646
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,520
You know, you have to be 
careful. 

647
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,600
I, I even tell our boys right 
now that whoever you marry, 

648
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,360
that's going to be one of the 
most important decisions besides

649
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:56,679
coming to the Lord and deciding 
to serve the Lord. 

650
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,400
But who you marry is going to be
your next important decision. 

651
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,880
It's going to shape everything 
in your life, certainly. 

652
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,680
But it was. 
It was his character, right? 

653
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,640
Though the fact that you you 
could tell he was actively 

654
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,880
seeking the Lord, that makes a 
difference and in the decision 

655
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,760
you made at the time, right? 
Because we can all. 

656
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,400
We can all tell. 
I mean, everybody's. 

657
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:16,920
The eyes never really give it 
away whenever someone's not 

658
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,600
really paying attention, you 
know what I mean? 

659
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,880
Like people can fake actions, 
but they can't fake or like a 

660
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,440
love for Jesus, you know what I 
mean? 

661
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,440
That is very true. 
Kim and and I think we had 

662
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,080
conversations. 
Do you remember this? 

663
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,040
I remember a conversation 
saying, well, you know, we can 

664
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,600
date and everything, but I'm not
gonna marry somebody that 

665
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,160
doesn't have the Holy Ghost, 
right? 

666
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,440
Yeah, I. 
Remember that you had you. 

667
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,440
Had a plan laid out. 
Yeah, she already had it. 

668
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,400
So she was intentional. 
She was intentional. 

669
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,640
Way back then, it's not just 
what the kids you know, but so 

670
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:50,680
but. 
As you guys, when did you guys 

671
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,680
decide, hey, I don't want to 
just be though like a like AI 

672
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,640
don't want to just do nothing 
though, You know what I mean? 

673
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,280
I don't want to I don't want to 
be here and not like be a part 

674
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,680
of what's going on. 
I know that led to like Sunday 

675
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,200
school environment, like First 
off, after you guys got married,

676
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,440
right? 
So yeah, I actually started. 

677
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,880
Teaching Sunday school when I 
was 15. 

678
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,560
Yeah. 
So it was Gwen Craft. 

679
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,240
You guys know Robin and Gwen 
Craft? 

680
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,920
She was such a blessing to me. 
And she's like, hey, I think you

681
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,000
could teach Sunday. 
So I think you would be a good 

682
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,200
Sunday school teacher. 
And she got me in there and 

683
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,000
pretty much mentored me, kind of
showed me what to do and 

684
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,080
everything. 
And then eventually let me take 

685
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,600
over. 
And I'm still teaching Sunday 

686
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,560
school to this day. 
You know, so that's been what, 

687
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,960
nearly 430 years, something like
that. 

688
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,920
And I, you know, I love children
and just, I'm thankful to be 

689
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,400
able to help in that vicinity. 
So yeah, we, we want to help 

690
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,440
where we can. 
And we've been through different

691
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,600
stages and different chapters of
our lives and things like that. 

692
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,040
You know, Jason helps out with 
the media a lot, and I feel like

693
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,720
he's talented in that area. 
Yeah. 

694
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:02,480
So I remember when, yeah, when I
first started going to church 

695
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,640
with her, she was, she was 
teaching Sunday school. 

696
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,480
And then there eventually after 
I I got the Holy Ghost and was 

697
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,800
there for a while. 
This at Athens. 

698
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,080
I think I actually was was 
helping you. 

699
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,600
We started together. 
Started teaching. 

700
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,480
Started. 
Teaching together. 

701
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,720
And. 
Then yeah, so that. 

702
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:22,520
Was so it was big. 
And then I guess after we moved 

703
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,720
here, we were after a little 
while, we got involved with 

704
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:30,160
children's church and LED that 
for a little while here. 

705
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,800
Yeah, I think it. 
Worked out good. 

706
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,800
I was like, serious trying to 
pound in the truth and Jason's 

707
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,400
over here cracking jokes. 
That's. 

708
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:41,800
Right. 
But he helped me loosen up a 

709
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,160
little bit, you know, And today,
yeah, we need to have fun with 

710
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,640
this, too. 
But yeah, we made a good team. 

711
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,920
And I feel like we still make a 
good team in most avenues that 

712
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,160
we go in. 
I we kind of touched on it a 

713
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,680
little bit, but what is it like 
whenever you what is it? 

714
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,760
What does it kind of go through 
whenever you see people you've 

715
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,120
kind of poured a portion of your
life into at least and you see 

716
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,800
them grow up and them dedicate 
their lives to God. 

717
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,960
What is that feeling like for 
for each of you? 

718
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,960
You know what I mean? 
Even for brother Jason may not 

719
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,440
do Sunday school anymore, but to
know you made an impact on 

720
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,160
certain people's lives and to 
see that is that do you consider

721
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,200
that like a a rewarding 
experience? 

722
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,320
I guess yeah, it I mean. 
It's definitely rewarding, you 

723
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,200
know, I mean, you, you see it 
and it's like, oh, you're so 

724
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,040
proud of them. 
And it's like, OK, yeah, I did 

725
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,360
help way back with maybe I 
taught them in Sunday school or,

726
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,280
or, or had some influence on 
them at some point, you know, 

727
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,600
but but more it's just just 
proud for them, you know, not 

728
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,360
not a good job to me. 
I helped mold this person or 

729
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,720
hopefully said something that 
helped them in their, in their 

730
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,000
life. 
But you know, whoever it was 

731
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,880
that helped them, you know, 
it's, it's yes, it's definitely 

732
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,280
for sure. 
You know, there's lots of hands.

733
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,760
That that helped helped with 
that for sure. 

734
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,200
And that's like we said, so 
thankful for our kids as well. 

735
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,840
All those people pouring into 
US. 

736
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,400
I mean, there's so many people 
that pour into our children and 

737
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,640
I guess we're just grateful and 
thankful to have an opportunity 

738
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,680
to pour into some people. 
But we still he and I both just 

739
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,360
like you don't you feel like you
don't do enough. 

740
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,040
You feel like I don't think I 
really made a difference. 

741
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,440
You know, somebody makes a 
comment. 

742
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,720
Brooke said something the other 
day, but boasting about 

743
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,920
remembering me as her teacher. 
And I was like, oh, she did. 

744
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,520
I I mean, I, I can't believe she
even remembered me, you know? 

745
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,240
So maybe we have more influence 
on people than we realize, but 

746
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,600
it doesn't feel like you do 
sometimes, you know? 

747
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,400
Well, you know, I think. 
And I think some people hold 

748
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,120
themselves out of being involved
and hold themselves out for me 

749
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,120
from being apart because they 
get too worried about how much 

750
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,600
it will take out of them or even
just like, even even that 

751
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,200
they're not worthy. 
But you guys can say 

752
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,960
unintentionally, just by just by
being, you know, by loving God, 

753
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,240
by being there, being an 
example, you can have, you know,

754
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,080
consequences that you didn't 
even realize you were having. 

755
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,040
Is that accurate? 
Oh yeah. 

756
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,800
And you know, that can go both 
ways. 

757
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,080
You know, as a Christian, some 
people expect you to be perfect 

758
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,360
and never make any mistakes. 
But we're all human folks, 

759
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,800
right? 
But I really do I will get upset

760
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,400
emotional if I get to thinking 
about, oh, you were not on your 

761
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,160
best that day. 
I wonder who you affect. 

762
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,920
You know, if who who that you 
touch negatively and you just 

763
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,080
have to say, God, please forgive
me and please help me to move 

764
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,720
forward. 
Please help those people forget 

765
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,240
the way I acted or what I said 
or something like that. 

766
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,080
Because, yeah, you can't expect 
to be perfect. 

767
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,560
Jesus was the only perfect, you 
know, person. 

768
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,400
But we got to strive to try to, 
you know, manifest the fruits of

769
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,920
the Spirit. 
Like, like, he's his example. 

770
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,680
But wow, yeah. 
I can't dwell on my failures too

771
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,040
much. 
Gosh, but. 

772
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,320
Even so, you would encourage 
somebody to get involved with 

773
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,240
Sunday school or be involved in 
that? 

774
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:57,640
It's a rewarding experience for 
that, wouldn't you say? 

775
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,240
Oh yes, one. 100% yes, I I get 
sidetracked when you ask me a 

776
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:02,280
question. 
Sorry about that. 

777
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,120
But yes, most definitely when 
you say, you know, like you guys

778
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,360
and just all the different ones 
that that you saw as kids living

779
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,320
for the Lord, it's the best it's
one of the best feelings. 

780
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,960
You know, like I told you, my 
children are my whole world. 

781
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,040
So. 
But I feel like the kids in 

782
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,400
Sunday school are your children,
you know, like maybe your nieces

783
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,400
and nephews or something. 
No, you do have a love for them 

784
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,040
and just a genuine, just 
happiness to see them serving 

785
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,680
the Lord for sure. 
Yeah. 

786
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,760
And I think. 
You know, you can get involved 

787
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,080
in so many ways. 
I know one thing your dad always

788
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,960
says is everyone's a minister. 
So it's not just the ones that 

789
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,160
are up on on stage preaching or 
singing or leading, you know, 

790
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,000
it's Sunday school. 
It's, you know, who's cleaning 

791
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,800
the church this week. 
I mean, there's so many ways to 

792
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,880
be involved that again, you're 
just you're doing it, you know, 

793
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,280
as a ministry that you can help 
out in. 

794
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,520
But again, who's watching you 
again, that you don't even 

795
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,600
realize that notice that. 
Oh yeah, they were up for doing 

796
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,760
this. 
They didn't have to be doing 

797
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,840
that. 
So I mean, and that's for 

798
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,320
everybody, you know, they again,
not just not just some about us,

799
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,800
I mean, it's there's so many 
ways you can be involved. 

800
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:26,120
You know you don't have to be 
the one in upfront beating, you 

801
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,880
know so and you. 
Do get a feeling once you've 

802
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,760
done something for the Lord, 
whether it's like cleaning the 

803
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,320
church or teaching Sunday 
school, any of that, like I 

804
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,720
think the Lord confirms that, 
you know, thank you, my child. 

805
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:43,480
Or or you know, like you do feel
a sense of words like we all 

806
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,880
need purpose in our lives or 
we're just floating around like 

807
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,840
what am I here for kind of 
thing. 

808
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,960
And that's something we try to 
tell our boys to your purpose 

809
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,320
here, you know, in this life is 
to love God, to serve God, to 

810
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,840
try to help others get to 
heaven. 

811
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,120
That's your main purpose and the
other things that you're going 

812
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,080
to do that's going to fill your 
earthly time. 

813
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,440
But you know, this, the main 
purpose is you get into heaven 

814
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,400
and trying to help someone else 
get to heaven. 

815
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,320
And so we're trying to instill 
in them the purpose, 'cause I 

816
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,720
think a lot of kids and, and 
even adults sometimes don't know

817
00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:16,840
their purpose. 
Why are we here? 

818
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,520
You know, that's a very good 
point. 

819
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,120
So you guys, you guys moved from
Athens over there. 

820
00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:27,760
It was at the time especially a 
considerably larger church than 

821
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,760
than than we were at the time 
whenever you moved in. 

822
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,360
Well, you say 07080708. 
Yeah, I mean, it was. 

823
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,760
A very It was Castle Dr., Yeah. 
Castle Dr. it was. 

824
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,960
A very small congregation, I 
don't know what, 30s, maybe 

825
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,920
somewhere in there, 40. 
I'll tell you when. 

826
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,520
The whole family, it was pretty 
almost doubled, doubled the 

827
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,800
attendance movie. 
I don't know, it was very small 

828
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,720
at the time, but yes, that was a
great. 

829
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:52,760
Time over there, I love having a
large church, but the small 

830
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,200
church was was so nice. 
We were all so closely knit 

831
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,520
together. 
There's nothing like it, you 

832
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,480
know, Bible studies, you know, 
just hanging out at one 

833
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,440
another's houses and things. 
And you want to expand for sure.

834
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,520
And so it's so thankful to see 
the church grow like it has 

835
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,160
grown and developed new 
relationships and things. 

836
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,280
It's been wonderful to be a part
of. 

837
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,760
Absolutely. 
So from your perspective, from 

838
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,440
both of your perspective, you 
know what, I guess especially 

839
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,720
that time because you know, you 
can't really depend on other 

840
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:26,080
people to kind of do the work 
whenever there's only a few 

841
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,600
people, it really is the you 
guys know that well. 

842
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,880
The community, but. 
You know what I'm saying? 

843
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,760
Like whenever, whenever, 
especially in a smaller church. 

844
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,160
So you can't really hideaway, 
you know what I mean in that 

845
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,240
way. 
But what kind of, I guess just 

846
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:41,320
what, what kind of encouragement
would would you give to people 

847
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,080
to that that, that your 
involvement matters and that 

848
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,960
that kind of thing, especially 
from your experience from Castle

849
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,440
Drive over, you know what I 
mean? 

850
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,240
Well, like we said, the 
blessing, when you get involved,

851
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,760
you're going to feel it. 
You know the Lord is going to 

852
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,520
confirm to you that yes, you did
the right thing by being 

853
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,440
involved. 
So I would encourage everyone to

854
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,240
find some, you know some part 
what cleaning the church or just

855
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,840
teaching Sunday school. 
Any of that is going to be very 

856
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,120
rewarding. 
The Lord's going to bless you 

857
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,480
for it. 
I truly believe that. 

858
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,360
I know he has us over over the 
years. 

859
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,600
Would you add anything to that 
as far as encouraging others? 

860
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,280
No, I think you're. 
I think you're exactly right. 

861
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:29,160
Just yeah, find find your niche,
find your space. 

862
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,280
Where, you know, where 
something's needed, you know, 

863
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:38,040
and and, you know, go to 
pasture, you know, pastors, I 

864
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,640
mean, pastors opened ideas and 
looking looking for for those 

865
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:44,440
ministers that he talks about. 
So. 

866
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,080
So yeah, I think yeah, 
definitely just. 

867
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,040
Yeah. 
Like, like Rachel said, just get

868
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,840
involved. 
And I mean, yeah, it can be you 

869
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,160
won't regret it. 
I mean, it can be nervous and 

870
00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:00,680
can be trying at times, you 
know, if but God's always there,

871
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,280
he's always with you and he will
reward you for for your efforts.

872
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,440
So absolutely. 
And that's, I mean, just that, 

873
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,000
just that model of faithfulness,
this is, is something we've kind

874
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,720
of highlight. 
And that's not me trying to just

875
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:14,560
because you guys are on here 
with us, but you know, your 

876
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,640
faithfulness has has grown 
inside of the church. 

877
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,680
Every the church is a collective
whole that we all grow together.

878
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,680
And so especially early on, each
of your handprints are on that. 

879
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,360
And obviously Brother Mullins as
well, and, and the many people 

880
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,760
who are who, who, who kind of 
got together to, to, to, to work

881
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,000
in the church together. 
It's, it's it's impressive to 

882
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,640
see how God uses us all 
together. 

883
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:35,640
Yeah. 
And you? 

884
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,880
Know you talked about that the 
impact we leave on people and 

885
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,440
everything and I-11 thing I 
wanted to share. 

886
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,200
I know when we first moved here 
money was pretty tight too. 

887
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,920
Dad always made sure you know we
didn't notice too much and he 

888
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,120
did a good job of that. 
Made us excited about Wendy's 

889
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,240
like you mentioned the other day
dads are good at. 

890
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:57,320
That they are. 
They are. 

891
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,840
And and he did a really good job
of that, him and mom both of 

892
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,920
putting things in the right 
perspective. 

893
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:08,520
But I remember something that's 
even to this day touched my life

894
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,360
about your dad specifically. 
It was Christmas, I think O 5 

895
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,160
and we were going to Athens at 
the time and dad really didn't 

896
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,880
have money for nothing. 
OK And Christmas is coming up 

897
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,360
and everything. 
And we talked and brother 

898
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,600
Mullins, I remember him coming 
up to us and was like hey boys, 

899
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,280
what do y'all want for 
Christmas, you know, and all 

900
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,760
this we was telling them 
whatever you know, oh we want 

901
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,600
power Ranger, we will rescue 
here. 

902
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,560
And then we said we want bikes 
and all. 

903
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,840
And Long story short, because I 
could, I could wax on it there, 

904
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,680
but we ended up getting bikes 
for Christmas. 

905
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,120
OK, that was awesome. 
Got a little Mongoose bike with 

906
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,960
the pegs and all. 
I was so great, loved it. 

907
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,800
And I was like, Santa's real, 
you know, because this wasn't, 

908
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,160
this wasn't supposed to be 
happening. 

909
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,800
And then several years later 
after you guys had had started 

910
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,000
coming to the church and 
everything, Dad had shared to me

911
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,600
how much that touched him 
because they really didn't have 

912
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,800
money going then. 
And it was brother Mullins who 

913
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,320
he just gave him money and was 
like, hey, go buy those boys 

914
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,400
bikes and shoot. 
I rode on that joker for at 

915
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,520
least 567 arms on that thing. 
Yeah. 

916
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,960
Broken arm on it. 
Life lessons, you know? 

917
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Well, I. 
Appreciate you sharing that. 

918
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,600
Dad, I feel like was very 
generous, but we usually didn't 

919
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,600
know about it because he tried 
to be Incognito and, you know, 

920
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,040
we might find out somehow, you 
know, through a slip of tongue. 

921
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,680
But he really wanted to bless 
people. 

922
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,440
The Lord had blessed him, but he
was in that same position not 

923
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,240
many years before. 
Just like y'all. 

924
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:36,480
He said he couldn't buy. 
He didn't have enough money to 

925
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,080
buy a gallon of milk and he had 
six kids. 

926
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,040
Well, 5:00 at the time, I guess 
when he was telling this story 

927
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,480
and he said a man came up to him
and gave him money and enough to

928
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,880
go get some groceries. 
And I think when you experience 

929
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,480
that, you want to pay that 
forward, you know, And so I 

930
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,120
think that's what he tried to do
and he was just naturally 

931
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,120
generous and and it really kind 
hearted man. 

932
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,840
So thank you for hearing that. 
And then you. 

933
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,400
See it with you guys. 
I'm sorry, interrupting you 

934
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,040
there, but that humility, like, 
you know, Bible says, don't let 

935
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,160
your, your left hand know what 
your right hand is doing and 

936
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,280
all, and it's not to broadcast 
anything. 

937
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,600
And you guys are similar. 
Like you've talked yourself down

938
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,600
so much about like, oh, you 
don't think you leave an impact 

939
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,480
on people, but you do. 
And, and a lot of it, I think, 

940
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,920
is through showing the fruit of 
the spirit the way you guys do. 

941
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,600
We love that. 
I love it so much. 

942
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,400
And again, like with the 
parents, the parenting, you guys

943
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,520
are people I generally look up 
to on the daily. 

944
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,200
I'm like, what would Jason and 
Rachel do? 

945
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,920
And yelling at the kids or 
smacking them in the face is 

946
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,040
probably not it. 
And so that, that saved my 

947
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,720
children a lot of times, But I, 
I love that about you guys. 

948
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:43,320
You display the fruit of the 
spirit all the time. 

949
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,880
You guys are meek, patient, 
kind. 

950
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,840
And I, I'm not, I'm loud and I'm
not just a lot of times, but I 

951
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,720
try to be that more and more. 
And I, I, it, it can't be 

952
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:56,880
overstated the, the lives you 
touch when you don't even know 

953
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,160
it, you know, just by walking a 
Christian life. 

954
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,360
And so for one, thank you guys. 
I, I appreciate that and keep up

955
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,880
the good work. 
You know, that's what I was 

956
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,560
thinking of. 
Gosh, I've got to step up my 

957
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,800
game. 
I know it's like you put 

958
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,520
pressure. 
On us now it's like, yeah. 

959
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,880
So exactly. 
I. 

960
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,440
Really appreciate those kind 
more words more than you say 

961
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,920
don't feel like they're 
deserved, but we sure appreciate

962
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,400
it yeah, I mean the. 
Generosity, like Kobe was 

963
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,720
talking, the generosity of men 
like like your father and also 

964
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:24,960
my uncle Eric really made an 
impact of my life. 

965
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,280
Just the amount of times that 
that that they would show show 

966
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,440
God that way. 
It really it's inspirational. 

967
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,840
Honestly, that's like, I want to
change my outlook on life 

968
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,280
because if they were able to, 
to, to do those things and God 

969
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,320
was still able to use them, 
that, that, that it'll change 

970
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,360
your whole perspective. 
And so like, and, and so these 

971
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,280
stories, I mean, in a lot of 
ways, these stories need to be 

972
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,480
told though, you know what I 
mean? 

973
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,720
And that's not to that's not to 
boast anybody up, but to show 

974
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:53,080
people that you can be 
transformational evil, even 

975
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,520
living a life that people may 
not see from the pulpit. 

976
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,320
You know what I mean? 
Yes, I agree. 

977
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,400
And and talking about stories 
that need to be told, there was 

978
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,880
one thing I was thinking that I 
definitely wanted to share. 

979
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,760
So is this a good time to share 
it? 

980
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,480
Yeah. 
Great time. 

981
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:11,440
So I, when I was about, I don't 
even actually know what age I 

982
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,400
was, but I would guess to be 
around, you know, 12 or so. 

983
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:21,080
And it was just a testimony of 
God's healing power. 

984
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,560
So all my life, you know, grow 
grown up. 

985
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,000
God can heal and work miracles 
and things like that. 

986
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,120
And I didn't see a ton of that. 
I heard a bunch of people 

987
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,000
testify when they come to church
and everything. 

988
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,720
And I've always thought, yeah, I
want to experience a miracle, 

989
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:37,840
Lord, you know. 
And so anyway, this was just a 

990
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,640
mundane, regular day at home. 
We were all getting ready to eat

991
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,360
supper. 
Everybody, most everybody was 

992
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,480
sitting at the table. 
I was finishing up the last few 

993
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,080
minutes. 
Mom had us helping in the 

994
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,240
kitchen when we were a little 
bitty. 

995
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:53,240
I was on a stool making biscuits
probably at 8 years old, which 

996
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:55,720
is a good thing. 
But this particular day I was, I

997
00:51:55,720 --> 00:52:00,800
just swapped my hand across the 
stove to to get some crumbs or 

998
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:06,120
something off and just burnt my 
hand and I was hurting so bad 

999
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,200
and was crying. 
I go over to the sink and my 

1000
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,680
family didn't even know it. 
They were sitting down like I 

1001
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,480
said doing their own thing and I
was running water on it And I 

1002
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,320
was like, God, you know, I just 
said a very simple prayer. 

1003
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,120
I was like, Lord, I know you're 
a healer. 

1004
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,560
My hand is hurting so bad. 
I know you could heal me right 

1005
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,240
now. 
God, don't ask you to heal me. 

1006
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:27,400
I want you to know my hand 
stopped hurting instantly. 

1007
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,400
Thank you Jesus, that's. 
Awesome. 

1008
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,280
Oh, and I. 
Told God, I said, if you heal 

1009
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,880
me, I'm going to go stand up in 
that chair at the dining room 

1010
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,080
table and I'm going to tell 
everybody. 

1011
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,160
And my brother was there. 
He wasn't serving the Lord, you 

1012
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,360
know, either. 
And when it happened, I said, 

1013
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,600
well, OK Lord, I guess I got to 
follow up, you know, and I'm not

1014
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,400
one like this is like the only 
time something like that 

1015
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,080
happened to me. 
But I did, I went over and got 

1016
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,640
up on the chair. 
I said, can I interrupt y'all 

1017
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,120
for a minute? 
And tears coming down my face. 

1018
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,600
I said I just burnt my hand. 
I said, see, it's still white 

1019
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,760
and it was hurting. 
I was crying, I said, and I 

1020
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,160
asked God to heal me and he 
healed me instantly. 

1021
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,840
And, you know, my brother's face
was like, what? 

1022
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,600
And yeah, everybody then they 
started rejoicing with me and 

1023
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,360
everything. 
But, you know, that seems so 

1024
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,040
simple that you maybe start 
doubting what was it really 

1025
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,400
burnt? 
I know without a shadow of a 

1026
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,360
doubt it was. 
And so that made me a true 

1027
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,040
believer in, in God's healing 
power and miracles that can be 

1028
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,640
done. 
Even though it was just a small,

1029
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,840
you know, a small thing, it 
meant a lot to me. 

1030
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,360
And I think God did that to help
increase my faith maybe, and 

1031
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:32,920
just to show me his power and 
everything. 

1032
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,040
And, you know, I know people 
don't get healed when we pray 

1033
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,160
and you know, that's a whole 
different, you know, story for a

1034
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,760
different day. 
But we still, my thought is just

1035
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,160
to cling to the Lord. 
His ways are not our ways. 

1036
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,280
You know, this is our earthly 
home. 

1037
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,200
We're just traveling through, 
you know, and we're we just 

1038
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,960
we're make trying to make it to 
heaven. 

1039
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,400
And the things that happened 
here, like his ways are not our 

1040
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,120
ways. 
And so I just trust him and 

1041
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,800
believe in him, you know, that 
he's got our best interests at 

1042
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,480
heart, you know? 
Absolutely. 

1043
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,400
Oh, I was going to say, 
obviously you 2, both are, are 

1044
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,400
are examples of how God can 
bless your life, obviously, and 

1045
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,880
how God can sustain you. 
But we all, no matter what, go 

1046
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,880
through difficult times in our 
life. 

1047
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,280
Like all of us are guaranteed at
some point to face 

1048
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,200
disappointment, to face the 
circumstance where we really 

1049
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,920
feel tried. 
And as it kind of alluded to 

1050
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,360
earlier, I don't know how people
make it through without knowing,

1051
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,240
having the dependability of God 
or knowing that he's president 

1052
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:34,320
in a real way. 
Has there been a time in your 

1053
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,400
lives where you really felt like
you needed God in some way and 

1054
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,920
you felt like he came through 
for you? 

1055
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:41,640
Yeah. 
Yeah, I can go. 

1056
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:46,920
First, I think the hardest time 
in my life was the loss of my 

1057
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:52,840
dad, which that's been 1213 
years ago now. 

1058
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:59,280
And I don't know, he's to me 
didn't have the beliefs, same 

1059
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,600
beliefs that I did. 
But still, it was just the 

1060
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,960
greatest man that I knew and he 
was wonderful. 

1061
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:06,480
Yeah. 
I know. 

1062
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,960
And he supported you. 
Even after you he supported. 

1063
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,800
Me that was something I was 
scared, scared to even mention 

1064
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,960
it to him. 
You know, my mom and dad just 

1065
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,720
just, you know, here they are 
preaching one thing and one of 

1066
00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:20,360
their sons over here doing 
something different, you know, 

1067
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:26,760
but but yes, he, both of them 
100% supported me and, you know,

1068
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,840
couldn't have asked for anything
better from them. 

1069
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,720
But yeah, that was very, very 
trying time, you know, just the 

1070
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:39,200
questions of of why, you know, 
how can this, how can you take 

1071
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:44,160
him, you know? 
And so, yeah, that was very, 

1072
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,080
very difficult time. 
Definitely had to lean on God a 

1073
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:53,480
lot during that time. 
You know, luckily I had a 

1074
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,880
amazing wife here with me in a 
time Mason was about 1. 

1075
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,600
So that that helped as well. 
You know, that to have to have 

1076
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,840
them that I could could lean on 
and talk to you. 

1077
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,920
But yeah, we both. 
Agreed that having a baby helped

1078
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,080
us through that time because 
children bring joy regardless of

1079
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,880
what's going on in your life. 
You know, they're just a source 

1080
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,240
of joy. 
And so he really. 

1081
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:21,000
Mason was about one when your 
dad passed. 

1082
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,760
And I think it would have been a
lot harder if we didn't have 

1083
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:24,120
any. 
Right? 

1084
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:27,320
Yeah, for your mom too, because 
she loved on the grandbaby. 

1085
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,640
I think it helped her get 
through it too. 

1086
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,480
Yeah, right. 
So yeah, he his. 

1087
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,200
Dad was a wonderful, wonderful 
man. 

1088
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,160
He was one that was at the 
nursing home multiple times a 

1089
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,480
week, you know, bringing joy, 
singing, bringing joy to those 

1090
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,840
elderly people. 
They love for him to come. 

1091
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,720
He was at the hospital all the 
time. 

1092
00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:49,040
This was once he became a full 
time pastor, You know, he spent 

1093
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,320
his time doing things like that.
And I respected and admired him 

1094
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,400
greatly. 
And I heard him preach many 

1095
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,440
times, too. 
And he was a really good 

1096
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,960
preacher, too. 
Yeah. 

1097
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,280
We love and miss him. 
We're thankful to have still 

1098
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,520
have your mom. 
She's the only one living of the

1099
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,680
of our parents currently. 
So I would agree that that was 

1100
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,080
the hardest time that I've been 
through one of them. 

1101
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,320
I'll back up just a little bit. 
I had a a youth member, a friend

1102
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,680
that committed suicide back when
we were kids, probably at like 

1103
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,440
15. 
And that was hard, you know, and

1104
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,920
now he was, he had kind of, you 
know, he was kind of sometimes 

1105
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,280
in and out, we caught 
backsliding and coming in, you 

1106
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:32,200
know, but but he knew, you know,
he knew the Lord and everything 

1107
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,240
and we didn't know why he he 
chose to do that. 

1108
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,080
Like many people that have, you 
know, struggled with some with 

1109
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,880
those issues, but that was very 
difficult. 

1110
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,040
I remember laying in the bed 
thinking, I can't get up and go 

1111
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,680
to church. 
It happened like on a Saturday 

1112
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,000
night and they had pastor and 
everyone he called and told the 

1113
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,280
youth group, you know, and my 
dad, I remember coming up there 

1114
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,720
and praying with me and saying 
it's going to be best to go to 

1115
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,600
church because I said, I don't 
want to go to church. 

1116
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,600
I just want to stay home. 
And I was so upset at the time. 

1117
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,120
But of course he was wise and he
knew that being in the House of 

1118
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,800
God would help you more than 
anything. 

1119
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,920
That was a difficult time for 
myself and our whole youth group

1120
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,680
to overcome, But the Lord helped
us through that and the the 

1121
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,760
people in the church helped us 
through that as well. 

1122
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,360
And then, you know, other 
difficult times. 

1123
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,840
I had people that I knew 
involved in drugs and things 

1124
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:25,240
that really wrecked their lives 
and some around and and many 

1125
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,720
times like you, like you said, 
Jason, you just think, why is 

1126
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,040
this happening? 
Lord, you know, come and swoop 

1127
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,280
down and just make it all right.
But you know, he gives us he 

1128
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,120
gives us a choice. 
You know, we all have to choose 

1129
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:42,880
good or evil and and so that was
a very difficult time, but God 

1130
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,280
did help me to get through that.
I just continued to pray for 

1131
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,960
them, you know, and many of them
have have changed and come to 

1132
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,040
the Lord. 
There's still some that are not,

1133
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,560
but you know, I'm just going to 
continue praying for them that 

1134
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,920
they will come back eventually. 
But then lastly is the three 

1135
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,560
things that stood out to me were
that the suicide and the drugs 

1136
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,120
and things I saw the youth 
involved in and some family and 

1137
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:10,680
then my parents passing away, 
which was both in 2021 and one 

1138
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,440
in May. 
Dad passed in May, May 8th of 

1139
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,640
2021 and then mom six months 
later, November 15th of 2021. 

1140
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:27,080
And you just don't know like 
what it's like till you know 

1141
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,840
what it's like not to have your 
parent, you know, specifically 

1142
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,200
remembering nobody will love me 
like my parents, you know? 

1143
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:42,400
And so, but God did reveal to me
during that time that I'm your 

1144
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,760
father and I love you more than 
your dad. 

1145
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,320
And that was the one thing that 
I came away with was God's love 

1146
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,720
for me. 
I just felt like he wrapped me 

1147
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,560
up in his arms and just helped 
me through that time. 

1148
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,920
It wasn't a fast time. 
I mean, probably two or three 

1149
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:01,600
years. 
You say I'm getting emotional 

1150
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,160
now, but before I can even talk 
about them without just, you 

1151
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,760
know, losing it. 
And I still miss them so much. 

1152
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,640
Like he misses his dad to this 
day. 

1153
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,960
We miss him so much. 
They were just such a everyday 

1154
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:20,240
presence in our lives, you know,
but so thankful for the grace of

1155
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:24,640
God and so thankful for His love
and His comfort and His word 

1156
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,200
that comforts us. 
Really, that was the only thing,

1157
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,960
I don't think. 
I don't know how I would have 

1158
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,400
made it through without him. 
So yeah, he's definitely a help 

1159
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,080
and so kind of a. 
Common theme between you though,

1160
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,440
what, what kind of I guess 
encouragement would you give to 

1161
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,760
those maybe who are facing grief
in their life? 

1162
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,720
You know what I mean? 
That you can turn to that maybe 

1163
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,800
there's, there's an uplifting 
moment for you that you guys can

1164
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,400
speak to and say God can be 
there for you and take you out 

1165
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:52,760
of grief. 
You know what I mean? 

1166
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,120
Personal experience really 
speaks volumes, doesn't it? 

1167
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:57,240
Yes. 
Yeah. 

1168
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,440
It does. 
And I think, you know, once 

1169
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:04,800
you're there in that moment, you
know, when it seems like all 

1170
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,160
hope is lost, you know, it's 
like, here's the greatest man 

1171
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,680
ever knew and now he's gone, you
know. 

1172
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,360
But like she said, there's 
somebody there that loves you 

1173
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,720
even more than that person did, 
which is maybe hard to believe, 

1174
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:22,360
but but it is true. 
And, you know, you've got to 

1175
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,440
lean on him. 
You've got to pray to him, talk 

1176
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,120
to him, seek him out, you know, 
seek his, his wisdom, his 

1177
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,840
guidance because, you know, we 
don't know why these things 

1178
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,520
happen. 
You know, that bad things happen

1179
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,280
to good people, you know, all 
the time. 

1180
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:45,880
And I don't know, without, 
without having him there to, to 

1181
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,040
reach out to and to lean on. 
Yeah. 

1182
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,120
I'm not sure how. 
How you can make it? 

1183
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,760
Through I think I think you've 
got to you've got to have that 

1184
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,040
belief and that faith so yeah, I
agree I. 

1185
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:03,000
Remember apologizing to you. 
Of course I grieved when his dad

1186
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,120
passed. 
I loved him. 

1187
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,360
He was so good to me. 
But then when my parents passed,

1188
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,560
I said, honey, I don't. 
I didn't realize how bad it 

1189
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,080
hurt, and I'm sorry that I 
didn't realize at the time when 

1190
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,360
your dad passed what you must 
have been going through. 

1191
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,040
You know, I do remember 
apologizing to him because that 

1192
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,120
empathy is a little different 
than sympathy, right? 

1193
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,000
And so I guess maybe every 
experience in our lives, I feel 

1194
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,240
like God can let us, can use us 
to help someone. 

1195
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,520
Like we did have a miscarriage 
back when we were trying to get 

1196
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,520
pregnant with Mason and the Lord
helped us through that. 

1197
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,920
I guess I should have added that
to my list of of things that was

1198
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,360
very difficult. 
It was early on in the pregnancy

1199
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,320
though. 
But I know that sister Penton 

1200
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,720
had me talk to a couple ladies 
that had a miscarriage and I 

1201
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,920
could just share how God helped 
me through that time. 

1202
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,680
You know, I don't understand 
God, but I'm trusting you, you 

1203
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,200
know, that kind of faith and and
leaning on him. 

1204
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:03,720
So I definitely think the trials
we go through can be used to 

1205
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,040
help others. 
So someone that else that loses 

1206
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,160
a parent, you know, if they want
to talk to me, I can share how 

1207
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,360
the Lord help to me. 
But you know, even saying it 

1208
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,800
here on this podcast, he will 
help you through and there's 

1209
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,120
nowhere else you can go for this
kind of help. 

1210
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,320
It's a different kind of help. 
That's that's the. 

1211
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,160
Beauty of of God and also his 
congregation, right? 

1212
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,840
Because it's not just him who 
helps, but he puts his spirit 

1213
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,560
inside of us so that we can go 
be those people that help for 

1214
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:31,640
sure. 
So. 

1215
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,520
Yeah, and your parents? 
You know, our pastors are just 

1216
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:39,640
so loving and kind. 
You know, they have been a huge 

1217
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,800
help too, in helping you get 
through difficult times. 

1218
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,800
I told your dad one time, I 
said, you're just so kind. 

1219
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,120
And he kind of was like trying 
to say, no, you know, that's not

1220
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,600
my personality. 
You know, I'm, I'm green and I, 

1221
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,360
I have to work at being that 
way. 

1222
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,240
And I said, well, you got me 
food because I think you're, 

1223
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:01,680
you're pretty awesome. 
You know, so is your wife, but 

1224
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,320
we sure do appreciate the 
influence that they've had on us

1225
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,440
and and all the others in the 
congregation. 

1226
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,320
We've got a wonderful 
congregation of people that's 

1227
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,520
ready to help in a time of need.
You know, so thankful for that 

1228
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:13,960
support. 
We do and that that. 

1229
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:20,160
Matters a whole lot, that is. 
It's funny because grief's a lot

1230
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:24,640
of what sent me away from God at
1st and then grief is 

1231
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:30,040
ultimately, I think what brought
me back, you know, and it, it's,

1232
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:35,280
it's good having that community,
people that believe and trust in

1233
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:36,800
God. 
And like you said, the hardest 

1234
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:41,360
part of it and navigate and I 
think is that faith in his will,

1235
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,360
you know, because if we have it 
our way, nobody's going to die. 

1236
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,000
You know, we're nobody's going 
to get sick. 

1237
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:53,560
We're we ain't going to have 
issues And, and I think through 

1238
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,240
all of life, things happen for a
reason. 

1239
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,200
And I can see in my life where 
negative things have happened 

1240
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,800
that from the outside, it's, 
it's bad, but then what it's 

1241
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,640
it's transformed into my life 
and a lot of people in my 

1242
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,360
family, their life, there's 
always a purpose to it. 

1243
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:15,880
And I think that trust, trust in
his will, that's that's a vital 

1244
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,240
part of that. 
And then also coming back to 

1245
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,840
the, the fold for us, like y'all
said with the community, we 

1246
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,160
really do have a good community 
here and I'm grateful to be a 

1247
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:27,000
part. 
And for me with the boys, I, I 

1248
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,760
really want them growing up in 
an area like that where your 

1249
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,200
boys are huge role models to my 
boys because they're around the 

1250
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,680
same age and everything, you 
know, that's why we're taking 

1251
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,080
y'all on as role models for us. 
We're like, well, they're doing 

1252
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,040
OK. 
And then my kids want to be like

1253
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,760
them, so got to figure out, feel
the weight of that pressure. 

1254
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,080
On me, you know Exactly. 
Yeah. 

1255
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,680
So. 
Don't mess up, definitely don't 

1256
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,920
go by body else man come. 
On don't go by. 

1257
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,920
Mason, a sports car nothing when
he's 16 OK then my boys are 

1258
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,960
going to be like all right, dad,
you saw what Jason did well, we.

1259
01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:02,040
Know like you. 
Said God's plans don't stop 

1260
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,840
here, and that's life and life 
more abundantly, right? 

1261
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,440
So we're reunited with him and 
we're reunited together. 

1262
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,160
It's it's all going to be worth 
it one day. 

1263
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:12,960
That's right. 
No day of rejoicing. 

1264
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,200
That's right. 
So thank, thank you guys so much

1265
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,080
for sharing with us and and 
sharing on this podcast. 

1266
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,920
Just it's everybody's story 
needs to be told because God has

1267
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:23,600
dealt with us all in unique 
ways. 

1268
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,360
So thank you guys for being 
willing to be an open with us. 

1269
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:27,640
All right, all right. 
Well, we are. 

1270
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:28,400
Honored. 
Yeah. 

1271
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:29,000
Thank. 
Thank you. 

1272
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,720
For asking us and also just 
props to all of y'all Johnny 

1273
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,880
too, just for putting this 
together because capturing these

1274
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:41,640
stories from I mean, not just 
us, but you know, from from Pop 

1275
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,720
and Mac and Seth and your dad 
and Brian brother Lacombe. 

1276
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,640
I mean, it's it's awesome to 
this is all all. 

1277
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,960
Johnny, he's not here, so we can
we can talk him up. 

1278
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,240
This is all Johnny. 
Good job, Johnny, you're doing. 

1279
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,600
Johnny. 
And Cameron, they're the ones 

1280
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,520
that orchestrated this. 
And then they asked me to come 

1281
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,200
on because I, I talk more than 
them. 

1282
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,680
So that's, that's really it on 
the involvement side. 

1283
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,440
But honestly, they I love it. 
I wanted to be a part because it

1284
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,040
did sound like such a great 
idea. 

1285
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,040
And I think it can grow our 
community. 

1286
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,160
And then hopefully those stories
can go out even to further 

1287
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,560
places And some what is what is 
the word of the Lord say we're 

1288
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,280
saved by the blood of the lamb 
and the word of our testimony. 

1289
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,320
And I think sharing this 
testimony and being vulnerable 

1290
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,240
even because a lot of times, 
like when we're talking to 

1291
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,160
people, sometimes we'll put that
guard up and a lot of people 

1292
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,400
ain't going to get on a mic and 
then be to share intimate 

1293
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,560
details about their life and 
where God's brought them. 

1294
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,640
And I think that's important and
something good can come from it.

1295
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,960
So thank you guys for, for one, 
being vulnerable and being open 

1296
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,840
with us that that that means a 
lot. 

1297
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,960
And hopefully that goes out and 
touches some lives. 

1298
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,240
Well, it's always important. 
For us to remember what God's 

1299
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,120
done for us. 
And sometimes if I don't go back

1300
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,440
and re examine it, I'll forget 
to be honest with you. 

1301
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,120
You know what I mean? 
And that's you see that 

1302
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,880
throughout the Bible where 
people just forget how good he 

1303
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,720
actually has been every step of 
the way. 

1304
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,760
And now, so it's important for 
other people to see how good 

1305
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,600
he's been to you because they 
know that they can rest in his 

1306
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,360
hand. 
So yes, testimonies are. 

1307
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:06,640
Important. 
And thank you both. 

1308
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,800
Once again, we appreciate you. 
Thank you.