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I'm excited to introduce Our 
Guest today. 

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It is none other than Eric case 
in the self-proclaimed crypto 

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anarchists cypherpunk iconoclast
and I've met Rodrigo, thank you.

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I do not practice the word like 
seven times during the 

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commercial breaks. 
I was like make kurmuk thank you

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Eric. 
What did I miss? 

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I know you're also a writer with
the crypto sovereignty. 

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We don't say the c word here, 
but you have written about Bit 

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Coin and crypto since 2013. 
What am I missing? 

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Not hit. 
So the the you guys got my, my 

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Sandbar, right. 
All right. 

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You sound amazing? 
You looking good. 

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Thank you. 
I feel like I crawled out of a 

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dumpster. 
So that's nice. 

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My power went out right before 
this, so I was like, trying to 

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figure out how to get that next 
one leg, but crypto sovereignty.

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The reason why I use this word 
is actually the word crypto 

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itself has, like its concealed, 
its own meaning and actually 

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have an asset. 
I called the encrypted meaning 

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of crypto which was essentially 
about how blockchain Bros with 

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their fundamental 
misunderstanding of like, why 

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Why you need a decentralized 
network? 

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That's censorship resistant. 
And it's not because like, 

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that's fun and it gives us good 
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It's because you actually 
inherently need to have a 

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symmetric cryptography at the 
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Because if you don't, the state 
can pretty much come and steal 

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whatever they want from you at 
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declare a state of emergency and
actually Arthur. 

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Hays has a great article that he
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I really liked it. 
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Arthur might be? 
He does such a great analysis of

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20th century and how the state 
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to overcome economic 
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That would happen with sound 
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Whereas now we live in a total 
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That essentially what I really 
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like the entirety of the economy
and finance has been over Kane 

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in order to allow for the state 
of emergency to essentially sees

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all wealth and commit that 
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hyper sadism, which is this idea
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social and economic development 
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completely and totally defined 
by the state trying to find a 

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way of life outside of the state
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You can maybe be on the 
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like even that has very strong 
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So anyways, the reason I went 
original with crypto sovereignty

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and it was funny because I 
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I should use that word or if I 
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this was before kind of some of 
the drama with it. 

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I felt that crypto sovereignty 
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of stick my flag in because 
cryptography is what gives us 

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sovereignty in the digital age 
and then Bitcoin with the 

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explicit structures that are set
up around that then creates for 

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a number of other feelings. 
I have rounded, which at the 

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bottom, I fundamentally believe 
it is a Masai. 

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Anika tool that hasn't reached 
its fruition or recognition I 

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want to take a step back for a 
second and I hope you want me to

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blow a little bit of smoke up 
your ass. 

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If you don't know who Eric is an
Eric. 

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I'd also love to hear sort of we
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boom recently. 
But I'd love to hear in a 

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second. 
Your journey to bitcoin and sort

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of what your history and the 
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a really kind of key part of who
you are, and who you've become 

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and what you've accomplished. 
But what I will say, for our 

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listeners is Eric is one of my 
favorite writers in this space. 

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I would highly encourage 
everyone to go and, you know, go

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to crypto sovereignty. 
Dot org and read through some of

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his pieces. 
They're incredibly well, well 

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articulated. 
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energy into like picking them 
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reading to really sort of 
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But all the references are 
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rewarded for going through them 
and really forcing yourself to 

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process each sentence. 
I cannot recommend them highly 

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enough, the, your piece, the 
Messianic, Bitcoin is one of my 

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personal favorites but Truly an 
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So thank you for putting all the
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these pieces and to getting them
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enough credit my friend, thank 
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I really appreciate those 
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So my journey is pretty 
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I was I was really invested in 
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the Apex of that came at the 
Occupy Movement which I was 

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super enthused about, I was like
we're going to take on the 

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We're going to take them out, 

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we're going to usher in this 
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It's going to be phenomenal. 
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that money was the problem that 
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pretty much all aspects of life 
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came to a realization walls like
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There's like no action plans. 
Just kind of a bunch of people 

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complaining and like in the 
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mentioned Bitcoins me, but I was
like what this doesn't even make

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sense, the collapse of occupy I 
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school kicked out of my house, 
I'd like to move back in with my

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parents. 
Parents for the my girlfriend's 

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dad and he kicked us out to and 
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crushing depression. 
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up. 
And I remember out like my 

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lowest point. 
I ran into my high school 

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English teacher, and I was 
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Point twelve dollars an hour and
I was so embarrassed myself that

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like I ran out and sad my truck 
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And now you know that that was, 
it really affected me. 

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And I was finally at the place, 
I like, total Rock Bottom. 

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I was like, there's no way out 
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I'm just going to live as a 
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and for some reason in the midst
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this Bitcoin thing. 
What's this about? 

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So I kind of started reading and
digging and is really 

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interesting and then when I 
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around, Capital controls with 
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There's something really 
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So as I kind of kept studying it
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of help Kwame out of a 
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And so, I then got a temp job 
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after Or that most doing a bit 
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I'm like drinking more and I'm 
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Like this is it and it was funny
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at the bank, they were going to 
promote me to be like manager of

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the division and I went in to 
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And we're going to talk about 
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bank. 
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he just thought I was insane. 
We're like, no, like we the hell

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is it? 
They're like, we want to put 

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like iPads in the branches. 
That's not what we're interested

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in. 
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this About summer of 2013. 
I've been so interested in vic 

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Gavin. 
Newsom just took Eric away from 

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us. 
We laud again, just as I was 

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getting my robe on. 
Well, it's it's because you put 

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your robe on, it could be a very
well could be. 

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And if that is the case, I 
apologize and for nothing 

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because this wasn't my fault, 
sorry, you're back, so sorry 

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about that. 
This is Gavin. 

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Newsom salt, this is not your 
fault man that, you know, I 

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appreciate that. 
But if I might have had my shit 

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together for my backup 
generator, this would be a 

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little bit. 
Where did I lose you guys at in 

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my diet, my depressing. 
So the Bank manager wanted to 

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put a bunch of iPads in the bank
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bunch of yes. 
And I was pretty much like this 

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isn't a fit for me and 
serendipitously because I had 

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interviewed a coinbase for a 
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They hadn't given me before Olaf
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same time. 
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because they're like, scaling. 
It was like, hey man. 

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Look good talking like oh, hey 
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doing the road? 
We need bodies? 

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Immediately were like desperate.
He was like, do you want on? 

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And I was like, yeah, like what?
Let's have an interview if you 

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look on know like fuck that like
give the job. 

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Like, I'm sending you a computer
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was like, okay so jove right in 
and got started and so that was 

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like a pretty epic journey to 
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2017 met. 
Lots of phenomenally brilliant 

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people and also like watch the 
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It was sad because I really 
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customers because my goal was to
connect as many people to 

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bitcoin as possible. 
I thought inside we did a 

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phenomenal I'm going to job. 
It was just dealing with 

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management and other choices 
around that that made the job 

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real difficult, which is why 
coinbase has such a terrible 

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reputation around support. 
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meeting other people and getting
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I got really hooked. 
It was probably in 2014 when I 

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felt pretty well right on it. 
Where like this question came 

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up, where I was like how is it 
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this thing? 
This money this object can keep 

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an oath to itself that no 
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Man, the political course. 
State seems to be able to 

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maintain that oath to 
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in that if your private key is 
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secured. 
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philosophical journey of trying 
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Will look, what, what does it 
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that can't be taken from them? 
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essentially, someone can present
their own self sovereignty 

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through the non-action, 
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You will say I would rather not 
and to me it took me on this 

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long discourse where essentially
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and various political theories. 
I started to really dig deep 

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into what I believe Bitcoin to 
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Is actually essentially a 
technological turning that leads

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individuals into self 
sovereignty through the way that

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allows for us to enter into 
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both technology and language as 
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singular items. 
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I'm curious, because The fact 
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Occupy Wall Street movement, 
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was very much, at least, the way
I interpret it as very much 

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prompted by the same things that
prompted, an inspired Satoshi to

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go down this rabbit hole and 
figure out a way to create and 

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gift us. 
Bitcoin, a are used to OSHA 

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Nakamoto and be, do you feel 
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Point does does? 
In fact, It what the rhetoric 

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around Occupy Wall Street was 
looking for nobody's ever asked 

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me if I'm Satoshi and I'm 
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I don't believe that for a 
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I'm a bozo so I really 
appreciate that. 

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You could think so highly of me.
My fun side note as I meant, I 

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meant Neal Stephenson offered 
for economic on at a conference 

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for 5 years ago. 
And very sarcastic was like hey 

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our look are used to tuition 
akimoto. 

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He got really offended. 
He was like, no, he was like, 

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why would you You asked me that 
he was like, I can't I don't 

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have the ability to spend twenty
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He was like it's not you 
shouldn't ask people that 

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question. 
That's not that's not nice to 

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look like you pissed off. 
That's amazing. 

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Yeah, I bet I look cantwell's 
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funny because later in the 
conversation, I asked another 

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question, I was like, what are 
you like, really afraid of in 

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the future? 
And this was like 20 19. 

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He was like, oh like you know, 
for thousands of years we lived 

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in a world where like truth had 
absolutely no bearing on the 

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world, you know, like People 
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lies and the sort of decrees 
that were given to them. 

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He was like, so I feel very 
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that and be it was, it was such 
a premonition of everything that

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would come covid and kind of in 
this second decade of the 21st 

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century when the third decade. 
So I really appreciate that 

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question of a, my station. 
I quote, it was the second part.

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If you could retrace a, do you 
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become is? 
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rhetoric for what the people 
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Wall Street were looking for? 
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sort of creates a turning that 
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Hey, look like it turns out, 
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money. 
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implementing deep socialist or 
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in such a fundamental way that 
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control of monetary system. 
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that really developed for me, 
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understanding that free market 
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state-based capitalism. 
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always has its roots in statism 
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inherently fascist because of 
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actually have Capital markets 
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correctly when you Have such 
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fun word for the day. 
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the action of State involvement 
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that we live in a deeply 
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point in time where even being 
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market economy. 
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impossible because of how deep 
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Pretty much all facets of life. 
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served the rhetoric of Occupy 
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this really interesting way 
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more it actually has these sort 
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socialist ideals and moving much
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ideals and also just to be 
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like capitalism or socialism. 
I think Bitcoin is something so 

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unique and radically different. 
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aspects of both and fuses them 
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dialectic essentially, can you 
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Like what is, what is something 
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So what is something very 
extreme and capitalism that can 

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both be found within Bitcoin. 
Sure one of the extreme things, 

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sort of more on the fascist of 
the dictatorial side is, the 

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choice is Satoshi made the 
10-minute walk time, the 21 

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million units using the 
substance 56 curve. 

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You know, like all of these 
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singular decisions that he made 
unilateral and there is no 

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compromise around that 
whatsoever and those are very 

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fascist Notions. 
But on the same way, he's so 

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radically respects individuals 
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homogenizes, everyone. 
That is part of the Bitcoin 

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Network and says, look everyone 
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everybody else. 
If the value of one Bitcoin goes

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up, all Bitcoins are totally 
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If the value of one Bitcoin goes
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all of those Bitcoins are equal 
and the extremes to say look 

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like if you secure your Bitcoin 
with your private key correctly.

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No one can ever take that from, 
you know. 

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No matter what? 
Even if everybody, you know, and

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that is such an important 
feature because now we're no 

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longer dealing with these two 
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but we're almost picking out and
taking the best parts of both 

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recombining them in such a way 
to allow for ourselves to move 

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forward with what I believe is, 
actually the rhyme zone of the 

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totally new form of the 
political. 

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And actually, you guys are going
to be publishing in next 

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editions, print copy honor, By 
have called wind of client but 

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it's essentially about how 
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thing that exists and through 
it. 

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Renewing, this idea of the 
political it overcomes Party 

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politics on a whole and create 
sort of this new Baseline for 

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everybody. 
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actually is this radical 
political ideal, but it's 

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because it's so a political in a
world where everything has been 

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politicized, it presents itself 
as becoming the most political 

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thing, I love that idea that 
simply by Abstaining by standing

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apart Bitcoin and becomes the 
most political thing I want to 

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quickly. 
If I can interrupt P, you can 

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read Eric's article that he is 
referencing in the orange orange

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The print edition, you can get 

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figured I should do it now. 
Good show Eric while you are 

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here and I was looking at, I 
felt compelled. 

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Inspired to put on my wizard 
robe, which I'm wearing right 

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now. 
I'm going to put the hood on ice

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because I'm, you know, but in 
your article Messianic Bitcoin. 

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I think a lot of your writing 
does this but you you're writing

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kind of conveys this level of 
excitement and optimism. 

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That I find I got to take this 
thing that I looked ridiculous 

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that I find super compelling and
there's a specific quote that I 

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wanted to read that identify 
really strongly with because I 

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also was going through a period 
where I felt like the world 

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around me was kind of bereft of 
meeting and it was really, 

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really difficult for me to feel 
motivated and excited about 

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progress in the Things that I, 
that I wanted to contribute to, 

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because I didn't see a way for 
that to be to persist long term.

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I didn't see any system that 
would support these, these goals

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that I had and the things that I
cared about until I found 

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Bitcoin. 
And if not for Bitcoin these 

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days, I would also be profoundly
depressed. 

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But in this article, you say no 
longer will. 

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We will we will be tolerate 
living in a world of liars, 

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sycophants and sociopaths who 
seek to control everything 

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through fear and Terror 
Authority. 

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And decree, no longer will be 
idly, sit by it. 

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Allow them to eat our wealth, 
and reduce us to impoverished 

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destitution for their selfish 
and greedy desires. 

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No longer will we allow for 
their corrupt and deranged 

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version of false democracy to 
allow for the theft of the 

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world. 
In exchange, for broken 

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political promises. 
We all know to be lies. 

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We now have something better a 
way to resist and fight back. 

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A Messianic weapon of 
unequivocal value, which they 

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can never take away. 
They can never destroy, and will

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Outlast them all for Bitcoin is 
not just about money. 

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It is about a new way of life. 
And that really was, I said 

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resonates with me. 
So here's my question to you. 

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What do you feel like the 
largest threat to that 

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optimistic view is in today's 
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do you feel like there's 
anything that That we all need 

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to be focusing on and thinking 
about an explicitly fighting 

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against because it threatens 
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A Bitcoin magazine Pro.com Yeah,
in my opinion actually think the

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greatest threat is the 
financialization of Bitcoin and 

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trying to integrate it to play 
well with stay by think. 

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It's a really dangerous idea and
I think essentially what we're 

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watching going on with etherium 
is very similar to The Dangers 

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that I could see come to the 
queen. 

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And I'm specifically talking 
about how much heat is on 

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centralized exchanges, and the 
way that they're going to 

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launch, he's 2.0. 
I really struggle to see how 

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they're actually going to. 
Woman, there's an immune full 

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decentralized way that doesn't 
have various threads of 

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censorship through it. 
In addition to, I don't see how 

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it become, it doesn't just 
become regulated chain. 

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And that really, because most of
my philosophical work deals with

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a figure in history known as 
homeless at their and that that 

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in Latin, it means the sacred 
man, but the worst agar. 

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It, it doesn't really hold its 
meaning in Translation because 

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it's not just sacred, but it 
could mean like a curse. 

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Sit as well and essentially 
throughout human history. 

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These are people that are 
legally decreed to that that 

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anybody can killed, but they 
can't be sacrificed. 

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Because the idea is that they're
actually outside of the purview 

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of the law of the Gods on a 
whole. 

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And so people just have a right 
to be able to kill and Rob them 

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if they want to and that's 
called Legal when we saw it. 

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Yeah. 
What happened all throughout 

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human history. 
We what's the term almost occur?

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And there's a whole series 
robust loss for Giorgio and 

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again, who is really kind of 
like my first philosophical. 

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Love the first book that really 
hooked me was called the 

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sacrament of the oath, or is it 
Sacramento. 

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But essentially he tries to 
parse out like, what is it that 

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actually empowers, the Oaths, 
like, have meaning at all and he

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does this D pathological, dive 
that is, is out that like like 

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the oath in the sacrifice are 
these things that like mutually 

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fuse into each other and unless 
you can like put The at stake in

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your language directly which for
most people, the lives directly 

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that like the oath was 
meaningless. 

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So essentially like if you broke
your oath, people could kill 

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you. 
I'm like that's just 

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legitimately how things operated
for a long time and so 

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essentially, the reason we trace
this lineage is because legal, 

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the legal decrees that allow for
somebody to be found guilty are 

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found inside of the same 
operations and for me the 

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greatest concern within this 
entire field is being able to 

454
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,000
protect people. 
Normally couldn't be protected. 

455
00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:17,600
And so I have to ask questions 
like what if we somehow had 

456
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,500
Bitcoin the 1930s and we were 
able to get that to the Jewish 

457
00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:22,700
people like Howard of that 
change. 

458
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:26,600
The outcome of World War Two and
then just another really fucked 

459
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,200
up. 
Fact, is that actually IDs the 

460
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,000
International Bank of 
settlements? 

461
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:35,700
It actually Finds Its Origins 
from a bank that was originally 

462
00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:37,900
made for reparations payments 
from World War. 

463
00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:41,600
One in Germany was supposed to 
feed payments into that but when

464
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,900
Hitler in the You seized power. 
They actually use that bank to 

465
00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:50,200
launder the gold that they 
extracted from the teeth of Jews

466
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,700
that they killed in the 
Holocaust into this bank. 

467
00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:57,600
And so at the end of World War 
Two, when the Allies were at 

468
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,900
Bretton Woods and they started 
negotiating running, what to do 

469
00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:02,900
with this bang, the Norwegian 
contingency refused actually 

470
00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:06,400
been sit down at the table. 
Well there was a promise from 

471
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,400
FDR that this bank would be 
totally liquid. 

472
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:12,000
So they get that promised to 
them Bretton Woods comes out 

473
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,700
Truman dies or FDR dies. 
True and comes the Power. 

474
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,700
He says, you know what, 
actually, this is a really great

475
00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:21,100
thing. 
I'm sure God should use it for 

476
00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:25,800
something, we should use it for 
like International settlements 

477
00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:29,700
and lo and behold, the bank of 
international settlements is a 

478
00:25:29,700 --> 00:25:33,400
literal Nazi bank, that got it 
seed, funding from the 

479
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,000
Holocaust. 
Like, you can't make this shit 

480
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,300
up. 
It's so fucking bananas. 

481
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,900
And Like that's part of the 
whole story of humanity that's 

482
00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:48,800
going on right now in my opinion
is that when you really look at 

483
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,100
what's occurring in the world, 
not only are these iron, he's so

484
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,700
dramatic. 
But to me in The Concourse of 

485
00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:58,000
human history like these are 
almost the things that have to 

486
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,500
happen because we have to look 
at this and go oh my God what's 

487
00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:05,100
going on is so horrific and so 
dark. 

488
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,300
And so nihilistic that I think 
for many of us who look, Out in 

489
00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:11,700
the world before Bitcoin have 
that depressed view. 

490
00:26:11,900 --> 00:26:13,700
We have to have this radical 
break to say. 

491
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:16,900
No, no, like fuck this place. 
Fuck the society. 

492
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:19,900
Fuck. 
All of this absolute bullshit. 

493
00:26:19,900 --> 00:26:21,900
Nonsense, you want me to 
participate in? 

494
00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:24,800
Do you want me to shut up and 
sit down and do whatever? 

495
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,100
I'm told including sitting 
inside while, you know, one of 

496
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:32,000
my favorite ones is not 
favorite. 

497
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,800
But in terms of one of the 
things that I like the most is, 

498
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:36,000
I just have no interest in 
military spending. 

499
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,200
I've traveled all around the 
world and I met people from all 

500
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,700
walks of life, different, 
cultures, different religions, 

501
00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:46,700
and everyone that I have met has
been a beautiful accommodating 

502
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:49,100
loving person. 
And so when I'm told that there 

503
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:51,900
are those people over there that
are bad that we need to kill 

504
00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:55,200
fuck you. 
I have absolutely no interest 

505
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,200
whatsoever in arming you or 
helping you go kill people. 

506
00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:02,000
If you think someone is so much 
of a threat that you want to go 

507
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,800
drop bombs on them, we'll go get
a gun and go fight them 

508
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,200
yourself. 
You fucking coward, because I'm 

509
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,400
so angry at this. 
It in time that my money is used

510
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,500
to kill children around the 
world and I actively know that 

511
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:16,700
that happens. 
And that we conduct ourselves 

512
00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:20,700
inside of these tests, Sherry 
genocides that don't get discuss

513
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:23,000
like what's going on in Yemen or
other places. 

514
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:26,300
And with Bitcoin, I finally have
a way to actually object in a 

515
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:30,500
deep and meaningful way. 
Not only can I just say no but I

516
00:27:30,508 --> 00:27:33,300
can say no, you any of my 
wealth? 

517
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,000
No, I'm not going to participate
in this system of abuse and 

518
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,600
exploitation anymore. 
And even if That means you're 

519
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,900
going to destroy me. 
You can't have my money, and I 

520
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:47,500
think when we all become 
courageous enough or not, even 

521
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:50,000
all of us, even a small sliver 
of us become courageous enough 

522
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,300
to stand up against that. 
I think we find the renewed, 

523
00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:58,300
hope of what it means to be 
humans in the world and 

524
00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:01,200
specifically one that has all of
this advanced technology. 

525
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,300
That's so important to ensuring 
that we remain free into the 

526
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:08,900
21st and 22nd century, which is 
even with we're back. 

527
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,600
Queens at right now, I have very
serious doubts. 

528
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,200
If we'll be able to escape the 
cage that's been built around, 

529
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,600
please. 
I'm going to want to go down a 

530
00:28:18,608 --> 00:28:19,900
couple different rabbit holes 
with you. 

531
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:24,200
Eric, you, you you said the 
magic words for me to go down 

532
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,100
this but like, my family is from
Iran. 

533
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:31,400
Originally, I have a majority of
my family lives in Iran. 

534
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:38,800
I've seen the way me, my parents
were spoken to before 9/11, and 

535
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,200
after 9/11, I genuinely have a 
class of friends that were my 

536
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,400
friends before 9/11 happened, 
and then I literally never saw 

537
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:51,300
them or their parents ever. 
My question to you is like I I 

538
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:54,600
love this idea and I always 
talked about how if we lived in 

539
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,500
a country that was purely based 
on the Bitcoin standard we pay a

540
00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:02,400
fine, everything stays the same 
about the US with the exception 

541
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,300
of our currencies. 
Now Bitcoin things like where do

542
00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:11,200
our tax dollars actually go to? 
How is the money? 

543
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,600
The government getting his 
spending getting allocated and 

544
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,200
then distributed further from R 
will actually become more public

545
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,000
and as a result the politicians 
will have to be held accountable

546
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,200
both for the things they say and
the things they do which right 

547
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,900
now just doesn't exist. 
I so I'm torn because what I 

548
00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:36,700
presented to you is as simple as
literally just change USD to 

549
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:40,000
bitcoin and you have 
accountability but like life is 

550
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,500
not that easy, and simple. 
So what am I missing in this 

551
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:48,500
situation that I just prescribe 
to further, enhance the 

552
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:52,000
accountability on our political 
leaders in the powers-that-be in

553
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,900
this country first, Well, in all
honesty, it starts with the 

554
00:29:56,900 --> 00:30:02,400
question of what is money, you 
know, and it's always phenomenal

555
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,200
to me to try to start this 
conversation with people and see

556
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,500
how far off base is. 
They are because pretty much 

557
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:10,700
nobody understands what money 
is, how it functions are, why it

558
00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:13,200
does that. 
And once you, and I think most 

559
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,900
of us, know as you start to pull
that thread and you start to 

560
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:19,800
really understand what is money.
You realize how completely crazy

561
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,300
it is that they can just 
willy-nilly, make it up and give

562
00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:24,300
it to themselves. 
To go spend on whatever and they

563
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:25,900
go. 
Yeah, you know, like, next 

564
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:29,500
election cycle will be account. 
So I think the, you know, buying

565
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:32,100
far education is the most 
important thing. 

566
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:34,500
And specifically not just 
education about getting people 

567
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:37,900
facts, but pedagogical 
education, you know, of giving 

568
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:41,700
people the actual tools to try 
to understand these things 

569
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:43,600
themselves. 
And to think for themselves, 

570
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:47,000
Immanuel Kant has a great essay 
from 1792 called. 

571
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,600
What is The Enlightenment and 
it's just phenomenal asset. 

572
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,500
That's pretty much just about 
how all that the enlightenment 

573
00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:56,400
is is he says it's get some And 
up tomorrow of superior view, 

574
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,600
which means dare to think and 
all that the enlightenment was 

575
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,200
about was thinking for yourself 
and Having the courage to say, 

576
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,900
what you believe to be true. 
And the ancient Greeks had a 

577
00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:10,600
word for this to called Paris. 
Ola and parasol was the idea to 

578
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,500
speak courageously and risk 
Yourself by speaking in that 

579
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:16,300
courage. 
And I think many of us are 

580
00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:19,300
really did Corners are already 
on a path towards doing this 

581
00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:24,200
because what's going on in the 
world is insane and it's wrong. 

582
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:26,700
Some morally wrong. 
It's ethically wrong, it's 

583
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:30,600
socially wrong and you, it is 
even mathematically wrong. 

584
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,400
They literally have broken 
accounting at the bottom of all 

585
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,000
Fiat money, that's how it works.
That's the only way it works. 

586
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:40,500
And that's, that's literally 
what the means. 

587
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:44,700
It means by decree. 
And so, by decree they have made

588
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:48,100
things paper, that has no 
inherent value have value. 

589
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:50,300
Does that mean it's actually 
valuable? 

590
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:54,300
No, but because we're so deep 
into this world. 

591
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,000
And of statism authoritarianism 
when we are told Authority, not 

592
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,300
truth creates legitimacy. 
We believe that and the truth is

593
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:08,300
that truth not Authority is the 
purveyor of legitimacy more than

594
00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:11,300
anything else. 
So I think step one is just this

595
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:15,100
educational movement but then if
we were actually to enter into a

596
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:17,900
world where Bitcoin was the 
monetary standard the United 

597
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:22,000
States like I think things would
radically change almost 

598
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,000
overnight and mostly because As 
you're saying, we have this 

599
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,600
really, really public money and 
this is one of the reasons why I

600
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,100
critique privacy chains is 
because I want this to be a 

601
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:36,000
money that becomes what's 
utilized by organizations around

602
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,600
the world and we need the 
transparency to say. 

603
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,400
Okay, you know, I paid a Bitcoin
in taxes, I can watch the utx. 

604
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,100
So go wherever they're going, 
hey there's like a bunch of 

605
00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:46,900
money that went over here. 
Like, what's this thing? 

606
00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:49,000
There's like an awful lot of 
money trolling. 

607
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,700
Oh, it turns out that the secret
military project that, you know,

608
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:54,700
we can now trace the lineage and
or Ian. 

609
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:58,600
And so next time they ask is to 
pay tax like well fuck you, you 

610
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,100
broke your promise on how you 
were going to actually utilize 

611
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:04,600
my money. 
So I'm not going to pay and I 

612
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,100
think that this is going to be 
part of what this sort of 

613
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:10,700
politics of the future is going 
to get produced is the internet 

614
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:14,700
as like such an insane and 
radical tool that were all 

615
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:19,100
absolutely under appreciating, 
how radical of a tool it is. 

616
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:20,200
And that like it's gonna be here
forever. 

617
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:23,100
It's gonna be here for the next,
you know, several Millennia is 

618
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:26,600
Humanity survives. 
And so being thoughtful and how 

619
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,100
we're going to use that in order
to create a new form of politics

620
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:34,500
that overcomes. 
You know what are three to five 

621
00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,900
hundred year old system that we 
have going on right now is going

622
00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:41,700
to be really incredible. 
And I think with these new fluid

623
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:45,900
and changing and frankly unknown
forms of politics that we're 

624
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:52,700
going to discover it's going to 
radically alter the way that not

625
00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:55,600
only is politics done. 
But the Ability that people have

626
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,800
and how money is spent on 
ultimately it's going to make 

627
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,900
war much more difficult process 
and also on a final note on that

628
00:34:00,900 --> 00:34:02,500
thought. 
I just want to say, I'm really 

629
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:05,900
sorry that you had friends that 
were bigoted and racist enough 

630
00:34:05,900 --> 00:34:07,500
that they would cut you out of 
their life. 

631
00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:13,100
After a bunch of shit bags, 
decided to do a terrorist attack

632
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,699
and then specifically, like, you
know, not not even tangentially 

633
00:34:16,699 --> 00:34:20,199
related to David. 
I'll I, to be honest. 

634
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:23,000
Like my parents gave me a very 
sheltered and productive 

635
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,900
lifestyle and I didn't realize 
this, I will just say this. 

636
00:34:27,699 --> 00:34:31,300
If you've never seen the show 
Rami on Hulu, there's an 

637
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:34,199
episode, I believe it's episode 
45 in season one. 

638
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,400
It's called strawberry something
and it's it's his version of the

639
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,400
day of 9/11 and what happened. 
And I remember watching that and

640
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,500
I live was like whoa. 
That felt real real to me and I 

641
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:53,100
called my dad and I was like 
Whatever happened to this one 

642
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:54,900
family that we really tight 
with. 

643
00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:57,300
Like, I would, this was my best 
friend in the second and third 

644
00:34:57,300 --> 00:34:59,200
grade. 
And then just like, we never 

645
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:01,800
spoke to them. 
We never hung out as a whole. 

646
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,500
We just, you know, drift apart, 
went different ways of Mike, did

647
00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:08,200
he say something to you after 
9/11? 

648
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,400
And I was like, he genuinely was
like, who told you? 

649
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:18,400
And so I actually didn't even 
feel it in that moment and my 

650
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,900
parents just shielded me from 
that. 

651
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:21,500
So I don't want to act as 
though. 

652
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:24,900
Like I really live through it in
that way, I remind you my 

653
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:30,000
nickname from the sixth grade 
until quite literally 2020 was 

654
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,900
terrorists and a lot of my 
friends phones. 

655
00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:38,200
So o whole other story as you 
fucked up whole other story but 

656
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,500
It's for me, it all rooted in 
this accountability and you 

657
00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:49,300
bring up a great point where 
this made-up money has given 

658
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:52,300
government's. 
Now, I want to expand this 

659
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:54,900
because it's not just the United
States of America. 

660
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:59,200
It's every foreign government 
that can do this to where if 

661
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:05,000
they feel inclined, they can 
just print as a however, much 

662
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,900
money they want or need to 
accomplish things like Wars. 

663
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,800
To accomplish at aggressive 
attacks against other countries 

664
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,000
to just by fucking real estate 
in a foreign country, like all 

665
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,500
of these things are within the 
scope of ability of governments.

666
00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:26,700
Now, I just wonder in your 
opinion. 

667
00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:29,700
I hate to speculate of questions
myself but I'm curious what you 

668
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:33,800
think of but here we are asking 
them to because all I did I make

669
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,300
a career hedging? 
The fact that no one likes to be

670
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:38,900
asked these questions but I'm 
going to just ask them. 

671
00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:41,700
Anyways, how do we unwind, like 
what is realistic? 

672
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:44,900
What is going to in your 
opinion, be that breaking point 

673
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,000
for countries to have to exit 
the feel off? 

674
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,700
Ramp is something like what we 
see in El Salvador, going to Be 

675
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:55,100
a case study on how it's going 
to be recreated. 

676
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,300
Or is it going to be what we're 
bearing witness to in Japan and 

677
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:03,200
Europe as we speak for them to 
either have to be forced into 

678
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,000
the dollar or potentially take a
different exit ramp, just to 

679
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,200
expand on this team and take 
would want, or make it more 

680
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,700
difficult for regulations. 
I like, I want to move several 

681
00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:15,400
steps rather. 
Let like with you being known as

682
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,900
terrorists, it's pretty easy to 
go. 

683
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:19,300
Well, he's clearly in An Enemy 
of the State. 

684
00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:22,500
He's a brownie. 
He, you know, wanted he clearly 

685
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:25,800
Those people you might even be 
one of those evil Muslims. 

686
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,200
Like fucking kill him. 
Kill him, and take a shit and 

687
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,100
that like that seems like a 
ludicrous idea. 

688
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:35,100
I want to get like that was done
all throughout fucking human 

689
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:38,100
history. 
Literally, the state goes, hey, 

690
00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:41,200
these brown people, we don't 
fucking like let's take all 

691
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,500
their shit and kill them. 
And that's how it played out 

692
00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:48,000
again. 
And again The Armenian Genocide,

693
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:54,100
the brochure in genocide, it 
goes on and on on and on in 

694
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:56,100
addition to like then you look 
at stuff like the cultural 

695
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,900
revolution in China where it's 
like small differences of 

696
00:37:58,908 --> 00:38:02,100
opinion on the same side like 
they just lose their fucking 

697
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:05,000
minds and not only kill each 
other but they like each other 

698
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,600
because they're so vengeful 
about. 

699
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,300
There's like there's like 
thousands of cases of 

700
00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:12,700
cannibalism what happened during
and so like yeah during the 

701
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:14,800
cultural revolution, there were 
cases of cannibalism because 

702
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,000
like they literally took the 
statement, eat the capitalist 

703
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:21,300
directly. 
Yeah, like eyes while and like 

704
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:22,500
that's one of the things I 
guess. 

705
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:26,600
History is just how ludicrous 
things got many times. 

706
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,000
Is that like when we talk about 
things happening going, no 

707
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,200
that's just too far-fetched. 
I guarantee. 

708
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,100
There's like a dozen references 
that we have currently in 

709
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:36,600
history like that could never 
happen. 

710
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,300
Now, like we're a modern people 
we are raised above. 

711
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,700
Yeah. 
And meanwhile like we're like 

712
00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:45,700
actively like watching the week 
or genocide which as I pointed 

713
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:48,700
out before, it's like like this 
is like the Apex of genocide 

714
00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:51,400
because like it's not even just 
about like taking killing like 

715
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,300
taking all their shit and Them. 
It's about like taking all their

716
00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:56,800
shit. 
Hollowing them out as a culture 

717
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,700
and a People mentally and then 
like putting them back out in 

718
00:38:59,707 --> 00:39:02,200
the world being like, remember 
we're monitoring everything that

719
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,200
you do and we can torture and 
kill you at any point in time. 

720
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,200
So you better shut the fuck up 
and do the exact thing that we 

721
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,300
want or else. 
And like those are people that 

722
00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:13,000
we've made the decision. 
That like we're going to have a 

723
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,500
deep economic interdependence 
with because, you know, we like 

724
00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:22,400
consumers shit like how 
betraying to die. 

725
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:27,300
Fields of what America is 
supposed to represent and to 

726
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:30,600
back and the fact that we 
allowed for Nixon to. 

727
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,200
So thoroughly fuck everything in
this country and then we just 

728
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,200
kept walking forward. 
And so the way that I think that

729
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,700
we D transition from Fiat is I 
actually think a deeply 

730
00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:43,500
political movement and I 
actually think like that's the 

731
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:46,200
only way it's going to catch 
fire is when we start to realize

732
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,500
that it's not the Democrats or 
the Republicans that are going 

733
00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:52,400
to solve this or even some brand
new third party. 

734
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,900
Tea but it's going to be about 
us radically organizing on our 

735
00:39:56,900 --> 00:40:00,800
own independently and making a 
choice to exist outside and 

736
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,500
Beyond the state through. 
Not just peer to peer exchanges,

737
00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:06,600
but collectives networks. 
And a lot of this matches up 

738
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,200
with the idea of 
anarcho-syndicalism because at 

739
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,000
the bottom I think that coin 
really is a purest form of 

740
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,400
anarchism that we've had. 
And some of the best methods 

741
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,100
that we've seen in our history 
organizes through syndicalist 

742
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:21,000
methods, which was essentially 
the way that anarchists organize

743
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,900
themselves in Revolution. 
Spain, during the Civil War? 

744
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:26,400
What does that mean? 
The term signal is Mac methods, 

745
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:29,600
syndicalist? 
It essentially means that people

746
00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:33,300
collectivize themselves on 
really any scale that they want.

747
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:36,400
So like we all need water. 
We form a water Collective, like

748
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,100
we all need wood and form like a
wood collectives. 

749
00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:41,100
You know? 
Like we what would what would 

750
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:43,400
the other end of that Spectrum? 
If you have that on one end and 

751
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,300
then is there like another end 
of that Spectrum or the opposite

752
00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:48,400
of that? 
Like the opposite of 

753
00:40:48,408 --> 00:40:50,800
syndicalism. 
Yeah, I would I think it would 

754
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,800
just be centralized fashion you 
know where essentially you have 

755
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,300
a centrally controlled economy. 
That is dictated everywhere. 

756
00:40:56,300 --> 00:40:59,500
Whereas idea of syndicalism is 
old Loosely formed decentralized

757
00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:03,700
networks, that then use Mutual 
AIDS in various situations. 

758
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:06,600
I highly recommend reading 
Rudolph rockers essays on 

759
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,800
anarchism because he goes into 
deep detail about this, he was 

760
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,200
given the assignment by Emma 
Goldman when he returned from 

761
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,200
Europe. 
And she was like, you need to 

762
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,500
write about anarcho-syndicalist 
right on That shit down and so 

763
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:21,900
like I actually think we're 
really entering in this, in my 

764
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:24,500
opinion is sort of like the end 
of the first chapter of what 

765
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:27,500
that coin is because like now 
it's becoming clear what it is. 

766
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,300
Now. 
People who essentially are 

767
00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:32,200
hearing the call are hearing it 
and answering it, people are 

768
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:37,800
piling in and my story of coming
back from depression is just one

769
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,100
of at this point. 
I've heard dozens if not 

770
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:45,000
hundreds and I've had all kinds 
of insane DMS from people just 

771
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:48,600
saying, hey like I had similar 
Since its I felt crushed. 

772
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,700
I thought sad. 
I didn't know what to do and 

773
00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:54,000
then I found Bitcoin and it gave
me all this New Hope. 

774
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,000
And it wasn't because I could 
like make Gonzo money and get 

775
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,700
out, but it was because I 
finally felt like I had 

776
00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:02,100
something that was really mind 
that nobody can take from. 

777
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,800
And again, I want to emphasize 
how fucking crazy it is that we 

778
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,200
live in a day and age of 
advanced Global technological, 

779
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,800
you know magic and the idea of 
Simply owners who think he's 

780
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,300
stolen from you is like the most
radical idea Exist. 

781
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:21,500
And so to me like at the very 
bottom, this is why ultimately 

782
00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:24,600
believe the coin is Messiah neck
because it doesn't have anything

783
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:34,400
to do with money but it has to 
do with awesome again. 

784
00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:40,700
Eric, come back to us. 
Hmm. 

785
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,800
We can actually blame Elon Musk 
for this one. 

786
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,600
That's my star like that's 
coming. 

787
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,400
No. 
I mean, to be honest, I'm 

788
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,700
surprised that this conversation
is getting any views right now, 

789
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:54,100
given. 
How many of the comments I'm 

790
00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:56,600
seeing get posted right here on 
restream that aren't actually 

791
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,100
coming up on YouTube. 
So, seriously, they're censoring

792
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:02,400
us again. 
Oh, 100% Andrew. 

793
00:43:02,500 --> 00:43:06,000
Andrew, Novak wrote a comment. 
Andrew Novak row. 

794
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:09,300
Saddam was going to take Euros 
for oil and then 9/11, which is 

795
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:10,900
a story. 
We've talked about a lot on this

796
00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:12,400
show. 
I will never, I will never. 

797
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,900
Stop bringing that up. 
And then shortly after that, 

798
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:17,900
Global nonsense, wrote a journal
Chrome. 

799
00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:20,400
Is the money of the elite. 
Neither of these comments are 

800
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,600
found in our chat. 
Did he say adrenochrome? 

801
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,700
Yeah, bro. 
Yeah. 

802
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,600
All right. 
That's the so you're living with

803
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:32,100
me, Tom, Saddam and adrenochrome
are gonna trigger words for you.

804
00:43:32,107 --> 00:43:34,200
The second one is funny, but 
yeah, YouTube is brutal. 

805
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,400
These days, we have. 
It's so we have like, you know, 

806
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,000
all the comments that are going 
through this through various 

807
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,800
platforms piped in so that we 
have the The host and the guest 

808
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,000
can see them live and it's very 
interesting to see which 

809
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,400
comments YouTube, sensors, 
immediately, and silently, like 

810
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,600
you can't, you wouldn't even 
know. 

811
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,700
Unless we also separately had 
this other chat, which is 

812
00:43:55,700 --> 00:43:59,200
connected to the YouTube API. 
It's Starship. 

813
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,300
It is and I mean like that's for
me that's another reason 

814
00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:05,200
Bitcoin. 
So important is that I actually 

815
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,600
think that back into this, like 
big, like Bitcoin has money. 

816
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,000
I actually think the vanishes, 
and I actually think we get the 

817
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,300
coin as like the backbone. the 
internet and will essentially 

818
00:44:14,300 --> 00:44:16,700
use lightning channels to 
exchange data and make 

819
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:21,500
everything completely Nonsense 
Revolt always what were the 

820
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:24,400
belly The Bistro like like we 
are very deep. 

821
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,400
It's very clear that the 
financial system is having 

822
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,900
seizures and is in the throes of
figuring out just how exactly 

823
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:36,000
it's going to die. 
Our politicians gas like that 

824
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,400
absolute shit out of this. 
I mean, the fact that, like the 

825
00:44:39,408 --> 00:44:42,300
thing that amazes me is like, 
Joe Biden gave that speech. 

826
00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:44,900
And before he did it, there was 
like a group of people who 

827
00:44:44,900 --> 00:44:47,300
surrounded him. 
Who are like, yeah, like the 

828
00:44:47,300 --> 00:44:49,400
Athletics for this are really 
good. 

829
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,100
It communicates, all of the 
stuff that we holy, walking, 

830
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:57,300
shit, what happened, who made 
that call too seriously 

831
00:44:57,300 --> 00:44:59,200
somewhat. 
So I'm better have gotten fired.

832
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,100
I don't think so. 
No, they get they got promoted 

833
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:05,600
or exactly like he speechwriter.
And again, looking at history 

834
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,600
like, we need to remember that 
like this is how things 

835
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,400
escalate. 
And, furthermore, like anyone 

836
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,700
who's involved with government 
at this point in time, like 

837
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,400
they're obviously a shithead 
that isn't considering or 

838
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,300
thinking about the general, All 
World state of the world and how

839
00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:25,200
politics is right now, because 
as we've watched all this claps 

840
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,600
in my opinion, anybody who wants
to go get involved with the 

841
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,000
government and think that they 
can change. 

842
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:34,600
Anything is really not thinking 
this through and if they are, I 

843
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,100
think that alternative is 
actually much more scary is that

844
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:39,300
they're actually evil. 
I'm like, I don't want to, I 

845
00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:41,300
don't want to throw this turn 
around lightly, but when I say 

846
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:45,800
evil, like they're literally 
incapable of having the thought 

847
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,700
that what they are doing is 
wrong, but there's always some 

848
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:53,000
excuse With some reason, they'll
like, whatever you say to them, 

849
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,200
about why they're participating 
in it, there will always be a 

850
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,700
good reason from their 
statements. 

851
00:45:57,700 --> 00:46:00,600
And so my opinion, that's why 
it's actually evil is because 

852
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,200
there there is no way to have a 
meaningful discussion where they

853
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,100
come to the moral imperative 
that's presented. 

854
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:10,900
There will always be excusable. 
And to me, like, I think this is

855
00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:13,900
the world were going to go into 
for quite a while. 

856
00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:17,500
And I actually think at the 
Apex, it is going to essentially

857
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:20,800
be just as we saw all three. 
Throughout the wars of the 20th 

858
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,800
century, not some other state 
coming in and blowing us up, but

859
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,400
our own government turning to us
and going yellow. 

860
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,200
There's some shortages so that 
cabbage got give it to me, or 

861
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,600
So, how do we inspire people to 
first of all? 

862
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,400
I agree. 
No one is the villain in their 

863
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,100
own story. 
No one looks in the mirror and 

864
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:42,800
it's like, I'm an evil person 
and I'm taking this because I 

865
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,000
want it. 
Everybody has a has a narrative 

866
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:50,100
around, why it's okay. 
But how do we inspire people to?

867
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,400
Not those people. 
But everyone else who 

868
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,900
acknowledge the situation that 
they are that they find 

869
00:46:56,900 --> 00:46:59,700
themselves trapped and how do 
we, how do we grab people by the

870
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,400
the collar and shake them awake?
Speak truth to power, you know, 

871
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,700
like I'm like, I'm just some 
crazy motherfucker, you know. 

872
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:12,400
Like I got lucky enough that not
only do I get on this ride 

873
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,100
early, but that I have been 
speaking to these things. 

874
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:18,000
So I really care about them and 
it's been incredible to me 

875
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,800
watching. 
People, applaud means, you know,

876
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,100
invite me on shows like this and
tell me the same or write books.

877
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:27,000
And it's because when people 
hear that truth that they need 

878
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:32,100
so bad, it not only is 
refreshing but it's inspire, you

879
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:33,700
know, like always. 
You always think it's 

880
00:47:33,707 --> 00:47:36,200
interesting when I meet like, 
like very typical more me 

881
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,400
people. 
Because like, I'm so kind of off

882
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,000
the periphery on my own thing. 
And when I'll what my untruths 

883
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,400
and Visions are these people are
usually really taken aback, you 

884
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,700
know, and I've noticed in some 
people that really sparked 

885
00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:52,400
something in them and the most 
fascinating is when it's like 

886
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,600
totally unexpected people that I
never thought I would like rile 

887
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,000
something up and then a great 
examples like my veterinarian. 

888
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,900
She's just an older very 
liberal. 

889
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,900
Woman who, you know, very heart,
felt warm and caring. 

890
00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:09,500
I'm like, you know, I gave her 
some some orange pill stuff and 

891
00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:12,300
all would be well. 
And then next time character 

892
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:15,000
she's like, Halibut what? 
Like, this is super interesting.

893
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,200
She was like, I'd never imagined
that something like this would 

894
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,500
exist and just watching that 
sort of light up her world. 

895
00:48:21,500 --> 00:48:25,000
And the way it changes her is 
what I'm convinced is the most 

896
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,500
important thing, you know, and 
the very same way that like the 

897
00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:31,900
most important thing, that 
people could do, after the death

898
00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:36,400
of Jesus was in Ain't you know 
just it it wasn't to try to 

899
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,100
figure out how exactly they're 
going to make Christianity, take

900
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:41,500
over the world. 
It was to speak to all the 

901
00:48:41,500 --> 00:48:44,300
people who knew that 
Christianity took the deepest 

902
00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:47,700
and you know, and that's why I'm
speaking to is like I'm not 

903
00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:51,300
interested in converting normies
and getting this huge consensus 

904
00:48:51,300 --> 00:48:54,200
and majority to come on board. 
I think that will happen in due 

905
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,200
time. 
I'm super interested in the two 

906
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,100
percent of people that are going
to get fired up, that are 

907
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:02,300
actually going to buy the coin 
that are actually going to self 

908
00:49:02,300 --> 00:49:05,400
host. 
Those are going to do their best

909
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,100
to understand the technological 
details and the really talk to 

910
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:11,100
people about it because those 
are my people and my job 

911
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:13,900
specifically is to talk to them 
and say, you are on to something

912
00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:16,800
very, very important. 
And you need to keep driving and

913
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,900
pushing, don't regard this as 
some technological development, 

914
00:49:19,900 --> 00:49:22,500
don't regard it as a normal 
company or a way to make money 

915
00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:27,300
realize that you exist in such a
unique and important time. 

916
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:31,800
And that you get to be part of 
giving this gift to humanity and

917
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,400
ensuring that it Blooms as it is
supposed to because on that same

918
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,200
note, the other danger is like 
Bitcoin can fail. 

919
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,900
And it can fail if we're not all
doing our best to ensure that 

920
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:49,700
it's going to be successful, 
it's going to be understood and 

921
00:49:49,700 --> 00:49:53,800
that its mission is operating as
expected to, you know, and that 

922
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,700
was one of the dangers that we 
saw come up. 

923
00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:59,100
You know, during the block size 
Wars and I feel very confident, 

924
00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:01,000
we're going to see it again 
moving into the future, 

925
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,300
particularly when we see this, 
Eight regulatory attacks, come 

926
00:50:04,300 --> 00:50:08,100
on board, and it's going to be 
all of our responsibility to 

927
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:11,600
make sure that not only do we 
help and protect one another as 

928
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,500
we saw, you know, God damn it. 
Warms my heart to see how people

929
00:50:14,500 --> 00:50:17,900
really came out for holding on. 
You know, here's an individual 

930
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:20,600
who put themselves out front and
center and said there the 

931
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,200
fraudulent piece of shit saying 
that he is the founder of 

932
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,500
Bitcoin and it is not true and 
that fraudulent piece of shit 

933
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:31,600
came after him and he not only 
did he put himself front and 

934
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,200
center and take the Those 
bullets but Bitcoin has rallied 

935
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,900
around him and said, hey, we 
want you to know an attack on 

936
00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:41,000
one is an attack against all 
when we got your back when we 

937
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,200
showed that to you know, and 
somebody just said in the chat 

938
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,900
will we are all holding on. 
And I think that that's really 

939
00:50:46,900 --> 00:50:50,500
important that people know 
because and as I've seen here 

940
00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:55,200
too, if you throw yourself into 
this, you will find other people

941
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,600
who want to work together that 
want to talk about the same 

942
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,300
things that want to go deep and 
help each other. 

943
00:51:01,300 --> 00:51:05,600
And I promise you that it will 
Be much more spectacular than 

944
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,600
you could ever imagine. 
Because like I, I never even 

945
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,100
expected to get a tenth of the 
way that I am. 

946
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:13,800
And so now that I'm talking to 
people that I'm talking to, I'm 

947
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,700
working and doing the things 
that I'm doing I feel such a 

948
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:21,800
light inside of me that I never 
even knew existed before. 

949
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,800
Like I honestly, just thought I 
was going to work meager 

950
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,600
middle-class job for most of my 
life, watch some sports ball and

951
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,900
that would kind of deal. 
And now I feel like I get to 

952
00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:39,300
participate in the most 
important movement inhumane, and

953
00:51:39,300 --> 00:51:42,100
I very sincerely, believe that. 
And even when come to challenge,

954
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:45,100
I actually think I can defend it
adequately, but that's a very 

955
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:51,700
long philosophical diatribe. 
What are you if I may, there's 

956
00:51:51,700 --> 00:51:54,400
some of you kind of alluded to 
the very beginning of our 

957
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,500
conversation, I think you 
alluded to it a little bit 

958
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,400
throughout as well. 
But that is and I'm not trying 

959
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:07,700
to frame it as this will happen,
but there is a possibility of 

960
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:11,400
the outright failure of big. 
And I've had conversations with 

961
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,400
likes of suspense key, D plus, 
plus drawn, valise and hearing 

962
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:22,400
the ideas of What actually would
be the cause of Bitcoins 

963
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,100
failure? 
Would it be a state attack that 

964
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:28,100
prevents it from really reaching
its full potential? 

965
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:32,800
And what does that actually mean
for the future of humanity and 

966
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,600
Society, not trying to be play 
the Doom and Gloom speculative 

967
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,000
stuff. 
But but let's walk and doom and 

968
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,100
gloom. 
But let's Doom and Gloom for a 

969
00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:47,100
second here, I'm curious. 
Where, where are you? 

970
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,000
I'm most afraid of an attack on 
bitcoin that could be a 

971
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:56,800
successful attack on bitcoin 
because here's need space. 

972
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,200
We all got these fleshy bodies 
that can you know if you put a 

973
00:53:00,207 --> 00:53:03,500
blow torch to it it's not going 
to work out very well and we're 

974
00:53:03,500 --> 00:53:05,800
probably going to improve 
pliable after that and actually 

975
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,000
an essay called the theory of 
the part of song which is based 

976
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,600
off of Carl Schmitz book by the 
same title theory of the 

977
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,800
partisan but mine's called 
theory of the digital part of 

978
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,100
song and I actually think like 
as things escalate the state is 

979
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:20,000
Going to attack the shitty meat 
suits that we have. 

980
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:22,800
And thankfully through the 
digital news feed, we're 

981
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,500
actually going to get all these 
knobs that are going to pop up 

982
00:53:26,500 --> 00:53:29,300
and produce themselves. 
And give us the answers that we 

983
00:53:29,300 --> 00:53:32,000
need, you know, similar to how 
shell and Fry like kind of 

984
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,700
popped up out of nowhere during 
block. 

985
00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:36,200
Size Wars related. 
Check out what's got, I got the 

986
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,900
solution here and the same thing
will happen in the future as 

987
00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:44,000
maybe we get regulatory tax. 
Maybe the state puts clamps on 

988
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,500
developers. 
There's any number of ways but I

989
00:53:46,508 --> 00:53:49,600
think as the He's social tax, 
play out like we will find that 

990
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,500
anons will rise up from the 
internet to essentially be the 

991
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:54,300
foot soldiers for future that we
need. 

992
00:53:54,500 --> 00:53:57,600
And and it's no wonder that 
upset with because, you know, 

993
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,900
part consists of what's 
operating is that because we 

994
00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:03,800
live in this Global digital 
panopticon's, this one concern, 

995
00:54:04,300 --> 00:54:07,200
the can actually locate anybody 
put the clamps on them as they 

996
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,100
need to. 
And so like, we literally need 

997
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,400
digital pseudo. 
Anonymous people to rise up to 

998
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,700
save us because they're the only
people that are capable of 

999
00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:19,200
doing. 
I think that's also going to be 

1000
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,100
how the internet comes to 
present the fullness of its 

1001
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:27,100
power is because anons will rise
up and provide novel, new forms 

1002
00:54:27,100 --> 00:54:30,400
of Technologies, new B, 
different ways for Queens to 

1003
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,000
develop, where What they're 
doing speaks for itself and 

1004
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,100
itself alone. 
It's not about their title. 

1005
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:43,400
It's not about Whatever person 
they might be, it simply has to 

1006
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,500
do with what information they 
provide. 

1007
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,900
And that's very, very important.
And I think that goes all the 

1008
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:51,400
way back to. 
What Satoshi did you know 

1009
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:54,400
Satoshi Nakamoto only matters? 
Because of the art that he 

1010
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,500
produced into the world and the 
way that we got to experience 

1011
00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:01,300
that are and he could only 
present that are in so far that 

1012
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,100
he is Satoshi Nakamoto, not some
man of flesh and blood, but we 

1013
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:09,100
can find the rivets fingers off,
but because he is an anonymous, 

1014
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:14,400
Doesn't exist in our world in a 
meaningful way and just to be 

1015
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,400
clear, even if we did find the 
person or group, or whoever 

1016
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,700
Satoshi Nakamoto, whoever 
controls his handle, that's not 

1017
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:24,000
Satoshi Nakamoto but somebody 
else. 

1018
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:29,800
In my background is my shitty 
longer just a we've known this 

1019
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,100
whole time you know it makes me 
so happy. 

1020
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,800
I keep wanting to ask you like 
you know what model of vacuum? 

1021
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:40,000
Is that because out that vacuum 
looks my it's like some German 

1022
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,100
model that my wife she was 
really thrilled and got it. 

1023
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:48,500
So you know I'm not going to You
know, and like they're like 

1024
00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:50,900
happier to vacuum and stuff. 
Just saying you might want to 

1025
00:55:50,908 --> 00:55:53,900
think about that, but yes, I do 
need a better background and my 

1026
00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:56,000
apology for airing out my dirty 
laundry. 

1027
00:55:56,300 --> 00:55:57,800
No. 
I truly, I love it. 

1028
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,500
I that's funny. 
That's funny. 

1029
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,300
The realness is awesome. 
I want to ask something Within 

1030
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:08,800
the frame of everything we've 
been talking about what is the 

1031
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,300
thing that the average person 
can do? 

1032
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,200
Like, what would you challenge 
the average person the pleb to 

1033
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,500
do to broaden their minds and 
expand their Horizons. 

1034
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,700
Whether it's like, read this 
particular person or whatever. 

1035
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:25,900
The advice is, what do you think
is the most effective thing that

1036
00:56:25,900 --> 00:56:27,800
people can do? 
I mean, in all honesty is going 

1037
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,800
to be deep subjectivity based 
upon who the person is, and how 

1038
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,800
they grow human world. 
Yeah, I think one of the biggest

1039
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,000
ones is just really follow. 
Questions that you have in a 

1040
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,600
meaningful way look to history 
and look to people have wrote 

1041
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,200
about them and then for those of
you that you know really want to

1042
00:56:42,207 --> 00:56:44,400
break out of the box, I'm a big 
fan of psychedelics. 

1043
00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:49,900
Like I think it provides a 
radical altering and worldview 

1044
00:56:49,900 --> 00:56:53,400
in a really powerful and 
meaningful way and not just 

1045
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,700
because like they're fun to get 
a wacky and stuff. 

1046
00:56:55,700 --> 00:56:59,900
But I very much believe that it 
allows for your mind to make new

1047
00:56:59,900 --> 00:57:02,400
and different connections that 
would never be understood 

1048
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,000
before. 
And then also if you want to 

1049
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,400
actually go even A I think the 
possibility of experience where 

1050
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:14,700
you can have an ego death is 
really really profound because 

1051
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:18,100
in my opinion like you you 
actually get to directly touch 

1052
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:24,500
and experience the nothing, that
is everything and those kind of 

1053
00:57:24,500 --> 00:57:27,600
dumb statements make sense when 
you've really experienced. 

1054
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,600
And with that being said, I also
want to emphasize like the, I 

1055
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,900
hate the pejorative calling them
drugs because they're very, very

1056
00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:38,700
safe substance. 
Is there's very little known. 

1057
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,200
There's no known deaths. 
There are possibilities of some 

1058
00:57:43,300 --> 00:57:45,900
minor things happen, but for the
most part, they're really safe 

1059
00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:49,600
and I makes me really sad that 
so many people have pejoratively

1060
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,800
labeled labeled them as the 
drugs and put them in the same 

1061
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,600
category as heroin because for 
me personally, it really helped 

1062
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,800
me deal with some of my own 
problems that I had with 

1063
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,100
drinking too much and it also 
really opened me up to the idea 

1064
00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:04,700
of spirituality, I was like a 
pretty staunch atheist before I 

1065
00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:06,700
started experimenting. 
The psychedelics. 

1066
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:10,600
And it really opened me up to 
the possibility that there's 

1067
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,100
something to this world that I 
don't see or understand that I 

1068
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:17,600
think it's really important. 
So those would be kind of my two

1069
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,800
main recommendations and yeah I 
think a lot of it is is just 

1070
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,600
really being serious about 
asking questions of ourselves, 

1071
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,600
you know. 
And I think that the action of 

1072
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:31,100
being serious about it alone is 
really important and that's 

1073
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:33,500
something I got from Heidegger 
because he's really big about, 

1074
00:58:33,500 --> 00:58:37,100
you know, asking a question of 
being Like what does it mean to 

1075
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:40,100
be in our world? 
What does it mean for me to be 

1076
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:45,900
are Cason living in my home in 
you know the year 2022 with the 

1077
00:58:45,908 --> 00:58:48,700
state of the world as it is. 
And I think the Deep 

1078
00:58:48,700 --> 00:58:52,400
contemplation of those things 
can really flush itself out in 

1079
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,400
such a way that we can meet new 
and greater understanding not 

1080
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,600
only of ourselves. 
Hmm, the love. 

1081
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,800
Love that Eric. 
I hope that you. 

1082
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:09,100
And I get to meet in person 
because I fucking love pot and 

1083
00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:10,900
shrimps. 
That are the two things that 

1084
00:59:11,900 --> 00:59:15,500
come from the fucking Earth. 
I feel like that like sheep and 

1085
00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:17,500
everything. 
You just said, like, getting 

1086
00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:18,600
fucked up. 
Let's go. 

1087
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,900
Okay. 
Like, to be honest, like there's

1088
00:59:20,900 --> 00:59:25,300
so much validity and what he 
said about connecting the dots 

1089
00:59:25,300 --> 00:59:28,300
and the ego death. 
And like, I'm very vocal. 

1090
00:59:28,300 --> 00:59:32,800
There is a Pre-trip q. 
And then, my first psychedelic 

1091
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,600
trip was winter break of my 
senior year of college and I do 

1092
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,900
doctor some Pro. 
I'm a completely different human

1093
00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:44,800
being but I digress both trims 
and pot come from Earth. 

1094
00:59:44,900 --> 00:59:47,100
Nothing from Earth should be 
illegal, just my two cents on 

1095
00:59:47,100 --> 00:59:51,100
that Eric of the trio that makes
up the call magazine live. 

1096
00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:54,600
These two ugly faces up here as 
well as are the brains behind 

1097
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,000
the operation Chris back there. 
One of us three is about to 

1098
00:59:58,008 --> 01:00:02,000
embark on You life Journey, much
like you, they're about to get 

1099
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:06,000
married. 
I won't Doc's who, but what 

1100
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,500
advice do you have for our 
esteemed colleague who's going 

1101
01:00:08,500 --> 01:00:13,000
to get married? 
Although only life a really nice

1102
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,100
vacuum. 
Well, first of all true, 

1103
01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:18,500
congratulations. 
I assume if you're marrying her,

1104
01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:22,000
she like knows all of the crazy 
stuff that you believe about 

1105
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,900
Bitcoin weekends. 
And I would say, really enjoy 

1106
01:00:24,900 --> 01:00:26,100
it. 
And honor your partner and know 

1107
01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:30,700
that it's it is a difficult and 
tumultuous Journey but through 

1108
01:00:30,700 --> 01:00:34,100
your commitments to one another 
and willingness to be in 

1109
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:37,600
dialogue, you can really get 
through anything you know. 

1110
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:44,200
And yeah and I'd say allow for 
That love and cherish meant to 

1111
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,300
Blossom out of yourself and 
allow for it to humble yourself 

1112
01:00:47,300 --> 01:00:50,800
and to commit yourself to. 
Now you're no longer just you, 

1113
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,600
but your a unit that will 
hopefully grow into a larger 

1114
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,400
units at one point in time. 
You'll be, you know, the father 

1115
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,100
of your children and the head of
your household and he will lead 

1116
01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:03,800
your family in such a way. 
And for me, one of the things 

1117
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,800
that really gives to me is no, 
I'm married. 

1118
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,900
And I have two kids is that I 
have to participate in fixing Me

1119
01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:15,800
for my children because I can't 
give them this world in those 

1120
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,200
stated saying and be able to 
face them as adults in the 

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01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,300
future. 
Like I have to be able to have a

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01:01:22,300 --> 01:01:25,800
good explanation for what I was 
doing to try to make the world a

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01:01:25,808 --> 01:01:29,600
better place now, so that when 
they are adults, even if I lose 

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01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,800
they can do like well like that 
fucked up like he was on the 

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01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:33,700
right path. 
Yeah. 

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01:01:33,700 --> 01:01:35,400
For the most part, I just need 
to know that. 

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01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,700
I mean, sleep trying to change 
the future and to be Bitcoin is 

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01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:46,800
The single most important way to
do that I'll send Eric, how can 

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01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,600
our audience stay up to date 
with your incredible, writing 

1130
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,900
your incredible thoughts, 
putting you on the spot and just

1131
01:01:51,900 --> 01:01:56,200
saying because of Gavin newsom's
hatred towards us and preventing

1132
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,400
you from joining us earlier. 
You got to come back. 

1133
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,400
You've just got ya, I'm so 
sorry. 

1134
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,000
When the power went out, I'll 
just like mother F. 

1135
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,600
So when my contractor came out, 
let me know. 

1136
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,600
The power is back on. 
I was literally struggling with 

1137
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,100
pulling a giant generator out of
the back of my truck to try to 

1138
01:02:12,107 --> 01:02:15,200
get hooked up to make this 
happen. 

1139
01:02:15,300 --> 01:02:19,900
So but yes my apologies for my 
tardiness will blink Avenues and

1140
01:02:19,900 --> 01:02:24,300
for the time being and hopefully
when we schedule this again, I 

1141
01:02:24,300 --> 01:02:29,700
will just have power or my own 
backup generation to be able to 

1142
01:02:29,700 --> 01:02:33,500
do that. 
Just turned out my own light, 

1143
01:02:33,900 --> 01:02:35,200
wasn't the power going out of 
this time. 

1144
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,300
Thankfully but yeah, you can 
find my writings a crypto 

1145
01:02:37,300 --> 01:02:39,200
sovereignty dot-org. 
I'm working with you guys a 

1146
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:44,300
Bitcoin magazine, to get all of 
my articles and asses into a 

1147
01:02:44,300 --> 01:02:48,000
compilation and a book that I 
will be releasing and because of

1148
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,900
all the inspiration and 
wonderful things that I've been 

1149
01:02:51,900 --> 01:02:55,500
shared and have people reach out
to me and say, hey, keep going. 

1150
01:02:55,900 --> 01:03:00,100
I'm actually working on kind of 
my second book, which in my 

1151
01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:04,500
opinion really is dealing with 
the Metaphysical issues at hand 

1152
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:09,700
because to me this all runs 
headlong into the metaphysics of

1153
01:03:09,700 --> 01:03:12,000
philosophy itself. 
And I feel like I've spent the 

1154
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,100
last decade trying to figure 
that out and it's really came 

1155
01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:16,700
together for me in the last six 
months. 

1156
01:03:16,700 --> 01:03:18,800
So I'm really excited about 
getting that out too. 

1157
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,700
Fantastic. 
I like to imagine that, you 

1158
01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:25,700
know, as we've been talking 
about your power going out 

1159
01:03:25,700 --> 01:03:28,700
because of the Gavin Newsom in 
reality, it's like you've got 

1160
01:03:28,700 --> 01:03:32,800
some like Nikola Tesla like 
mind-body Wireless power 

1161
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,800
transmission system just outside
of the window. 

1162
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,200
And you're like, yes, Gavin 
Newsom. 

1163
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,000
Meanwhile, there's like crazy, 
electric Fields like crackling 

1164
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,000
and you're exploring the higher 
Realms of Consciousness, so 

1165
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,300
White Sox, Legend, Roland, I'm 
sorry, I'm sorry, this was a 

1166
01:03:48,308 --> 01:03:49,700
pleasure, man. 
I really appreciate you for 

1167
01:03:49,700 --> 01:03:51,600
coming on and Yeah. 
Thanks for giving us some 

1168
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,600
insight into how you think and 
why you Bitcoin. 

1169
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,400
Thank you. 
Both very much and continue your

1170
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,700
guys's, excellent workers. 
Well you guys have the bullhorn 

1171
01:04:01,700 --> 01:04:05,000
and are getting to the most pleb
so I appreciate your guys as 

1172
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,500
work as well. 
Do our best. 

1173
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,500
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