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We're adding in a bonus episode.
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Sleep days. 
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we've been missing doing the 
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we've been trying to figure out 
what's the new, the what's the 

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new format? 
Where did what does Naptrap 2026

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1/2 look like? 
We say in April. 

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Well, I'd like to hear actually 
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from the listeners as to tell us
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your one episode through the 
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Or do you prefer it to be a 
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that you can sort of tune into 
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We're I think we're happy with 
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We're at the whim of the nap 
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Please tell us what to do. 
Somebody, somebody please tell 

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us what to do. 
Well Bec, we're about to tell 

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Bridget what to do in the nicest
Bridget in the nicest way, who 

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deemed me to say hi Sally, I 
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sleep has recently turned S Ever
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cold, it has been two weeks of 
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unable to resettle her. 
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consultant in the past which I 
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and she said that we basically 
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again because of the regression.
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if any of your programmes are 
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Thanks and I thought this was a 
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particularly after sickness, 
your amazing sleeper is not such

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an amazing sleeper. 
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developmentally and we would 
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CPD episodes, we've got to do 
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Like we've got to start with the
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It's so hard when little ones 
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adding extra things in to try 
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sleep well. 
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absolutely have to, sometimes 
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the window. 100% And as we're 
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Southern Hemisphere, you know, 
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lot more sniffles and colds and 
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So it's probably very relevant 
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but let's just say Bridget's 
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now and she's got all the Hoo ha
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We would just go back and we 
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room environment, you know, just
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She's nice and warm all through 
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Is it the correct tog rated bag?
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dark? 
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sure all of that is tickety Boo.
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naps, this is probably a good 
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reintroduce the third one back 
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What do you what do you think? 
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the days are looking. 
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like if everything is lined up, 
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hit and and days are feeling 
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regroup to three and it feels 
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I hear you. 
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to bedtime to then if you need 
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to be easier. 
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really well rested place 
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minute naps and we've been up 10
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desperately tired. 
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you've got that 245 minutes and 
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to go into the night overtired. 
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your hands overnight anyway. 
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parents are sort of like, Oh my 
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get the third nap in and make it
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just to get through your day. 
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to get that third nap into the 
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overnight. 
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are going into the night and 
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Just sleep better, you know? 
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resettling you know that sort of
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they're more receptive to it 
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wired with cortisol and three 
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the third one you. 
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They can easily rule out, OK, 
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feeds, 3 mils of solids, 3 
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need to do, I'm doing sleep 
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It's, it's, it can feel like 
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weeks of like, where has my 
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need to do it after sickness, 
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I've had to do a reset. 
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lived because that skill set is 
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and boundary, I guess, if you 
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they're like, oh, this old 
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the nappy changes and the 
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things you've had to do. 
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really tired and but equally I'm
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strategic naps. 
I'm going to to go to sleep. 

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haven't had to do that. 
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on the plan. 
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of sickness. 
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listeners. 
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sickness occurs we usually just 
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here and an extra feeds here 
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otherwise what can happen with 
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that are part of a normal 
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system. 
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that you will forever feel like 
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track with better sleep or that 
you are constantly resleep 

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training. 
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like, oh, I want to be doing 
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of the status quo. 
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Nurofen, if if that's your jam, 
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I know that's your jam and my 
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We stay on top of pain relief, 
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can be doing, but in terms of 
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always go into the night 
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would react if and when needed. 
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the chance of ongoing chopping 
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that if they then did sleep 
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sleep that they needed in order 
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that we and that's what I try 
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Consider your day is just 
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You want to maximise their 
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for the restorative benefits so 
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much more quickly. 
I think, you know, if we go to 

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gung ho with extra sleep in 
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them, you know, let's give them 
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Ultimately that is going to not 
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this is a generalisation, but 
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toddlers, if we've given them a 
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a one hour nap in the afternoon,
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overnight and they're not going 
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restorative chunk. 
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thinking of overnight when 
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feeling really sick. 
But actually it's a pressure 

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issue and they're two different 
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that I like families to have, 
you know, when it comes to is my

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Are they getting worse? 
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But it doesn't even have to be 
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morning. 
It could just be that instead of

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your usual 45, they take 90 
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bit shorter. 
Or nap tooth fine, but then they

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skip nap three. 
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you know, like. 
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And then you think I got to add 
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haven't traditionally needed it.
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the sickness. 
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salt, but that would be our 
general advice for the really 

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run of the mill head gold as 
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it. 
But in saying that, yes you 

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sometimes do need to hit reset 
but it's not a full blown sleep 

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training like we've got to RIP. 
It's just enticing the sleep 

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skills back out again, isn't it?
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they're pattern seekers. 
We bang on about this all the 

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time. 
If you have had to do some sleep

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they're going to very, very 
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and understand what it is the 
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their sleep and what it is that 
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I don't think you know, it's as 
scary as it is to revisit sleep 

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training for a lot of families. 
It's not that it doesn't have to

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be that hard or that scary to 
you're not actually starting 

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from scratch again, like that's 
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starting. 
From scratch again. 

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Yeah. 
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Even though it can feel like it,
we can assure you it it doesn't 

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eventuate to be like that. 
All right, well, hopefully that 

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has helped Bridget and I hope 
her daughter is well and truly 

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on the road to recovery. 
And we've just dipped our toe 

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back into sleep detective with 
this little bonus episode. 

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But please, please, please tell 
us what you would like more of 

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and in which format. 
And not only will we make all of

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your sleep wishes come true, 
we'll make all of your nap 

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trapped wishes come true. 
Waving the. 

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Magic. 
Yay, that's another. 

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Nice way to end the episode. 
Actually, somebody mentioned the

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other day that we did put some 
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for them. 
That's right, yeah. 

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She she was like you switched 
out my baby. 

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Thanks for the my baby was Co 
sleeping and up all night 

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feeding around the clock slept 
through the night. 

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Yeah, that was amazing. 
So, so good. 

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So sleepy. 
Dust to all of you and in 

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return, if you could, please 
send us what you would like to 

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hear in terms of Nap Trap and in
particular, sleep detectives. 

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All right, everyone, you've got 
homework to do. 

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We can't wait to hear from you. 
We'll see you next week on Nap 

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