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Warning, the following program 
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those who are close minded. 
When General, you're scared to 

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learn. 
What's behind closed. 

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Doors here at sapphires are 
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I want you to pour the wine. 
Grab somebody that you want to 

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hold onto or better yet. 
Get the vibration stimulated 

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through your body. 
Get ready for one, hell of an 

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eargasm in five, four, three, 
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All you sexy motherfuckers out 
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It's sugarless. 
Sapphire back with another 

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episode in. 
Oh my goodness, I'm just going 

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to say this right now. 
I've been so excited to talk to 

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this individual, not just 
because he's one of my favorite 

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monsters. 
And as you guys know, I keep 

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bringing some monsters onto the 
platform and if you don't know 

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what the monsters are, check out
the mon app, it's a great sex, 

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positive Community Live 
real-time chats and you get to 

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connect with people, like my 
guess, Mac of free, the Kink 

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Mac. 
I am just so excited. 

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I am so elated and just so 
excited to talk about free, the 

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Kink, most importantly why we're
going to, you know, talk about 

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our subject at hand because a 
lot of bullshit has been going 

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on. 
So first of all, Mac of ftk, 

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welcome to the show. 
Welcome to the show. 

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So, Frida King dedicated to 
Bringing organization's 

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resources opportunities to the 
Forefront of the BDSM and 

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alternative lifestyle Community.
You guys have been around. 

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And for quite a bit and it seems
like Facebook is where your 

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community is really big. 
So let's talk about it. 

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What is free, the Kink? 
Why? 

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You know what? 
Just got you started and you 

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know where do you all fit into 
it mac? 

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Oh thank you very much for that.
Lovely introduction. 

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Miss a fire and I just want to 
say that pleasure is actually 

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all mine has I mean the queen of
podcasts you're a Pioneer in it.

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You were on audio before anyone 
even knew what a damn podcast 

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was so it's my honor to be here 
free the Kink ftk. 

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You know we started out I've 
almost six years ago now, I 

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think we just celebrated our 
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actually, you know, my beautiful
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we just felt. 
There's, we were own part of a 

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lot of groups. 
All those groups, you know, you 

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couldn't, they all had their 
Echo Chambers and we wanted to 

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create a place in, which all 
voices, could be heard all 

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voice. 
It didn't matter, especially the

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ones that others didn't agree 
with, okay, because that's where

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you find has new people come 
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If they don't find a lot of 
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an echo chamber. 
That may not even be They are, 

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you know, if I, if I was 
starting over today and I had to

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say, vet a new submissive for 
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I'd say here's what I want you 
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Here's 200 resources before we 
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Go find out who you are, find 
out what you really like, you 

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know, because it's so for the 
longest time even when you know,

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you would search information and
there wasn't a whole lot out 

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there. 
So that's what we wanted to 

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create. 
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You know what's crazy to me. 
It's you know again we're we're 

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going to talk about the bullshit
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bands. 
And why is there this seemingly 

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war on sex positivity? 
Because the more and more you 

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look at it and I was looking at 
the statistics before you and I 

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got started on the conversation 
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you know, everybody's talking 
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is just flooded with porn but 
only 4% 4% takes up the space of

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born of the internet. 
Everything else is political 

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bullshit. 
Your Entertainment. 

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News whatever. 
So then it's like communities, 

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like ftk through the Kink you 
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like you do offer a very safe 
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I you know, you look at the 
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Facebook group, I mean what 
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active followers if I'm not 
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So in our 12 communities right 
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She's awesome but you know we're
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We're tiny compared to. 
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And you're right. 
The problem is it look here's 

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the thing. 
They're always trying to shut 

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down the speech. 
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Okay. 
Freedom of speech and freedom of

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expression and let's assume that
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Let's say it's 80%. 
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called supply and demand. 
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the porn wasn't desired, you 
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The reason and poor comes in all
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raunchy. 
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There's raunchy porn. 
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I like it wild. 
My poor would definitely not be 

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for most people. 
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And so many people thoughts are 
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into this. 
We talk about the let's talk 

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about Louisiana for me because 
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And I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up
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mind please. 
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There are three bills out there 
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Most of your listeners probably 
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do it on purpose, the earn it 
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Cooper Davis act, these three 
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Okay, are going through and 
they've been trying to get these

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Friends years. 
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end communication privacy and 
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of all has always to protect the
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You know this after, you know, 
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the band, The the verification 
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So what the goal with these 
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messages between, email, text 
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messages. 
So the kind of message that you 

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have with your doctor. 
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algorithm, we monitored for 
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Who decides those four key 
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It essentially ends private 
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You know, if you look there was 
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it's always with the spin. 
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don't know about it is because 
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protecting children. 
Who the hell doesn't want to 

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protect children? 
We all want to protect children.

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So, we just say, yeah, it's a 
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the fact you're back to the 
patriarch That's a fine example 

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but let's talk about another 
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That happened that I know you'll
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under the guise to Bill's Sessa 
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Oh my God. 
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These home for those who don't 
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First of all is like Voldemort 
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entertainment, sex positivity 
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lining censorship that goes 
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And again, I understand like you
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protect children, but also there
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know, with these porn bands 
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who is very tech savvy and you 
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grew. 
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because that's what he did for a
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He works on computers. 
So it's like I knew everything 

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about VPN scrambling my location
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So it's like when you're talking
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they're putting on in this 
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where they were really trying to
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to be one state. 
We want the entire States United

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States to basically, not by porn
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harder to accept. 
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taking it. 
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But also, you know, trying to 
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scrambling people's accounts and
saying that you cannot access 

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But again, that's you know, 
cutting into the levels of free 

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speech and media. 
And let's face it, is it really 

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free Wayne. 
Now we're having keywords being 

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taken out, and like you said, 
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verification. 
So, now, the people's actual 

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true identities are compromised,
so 100%, you know, and then it 

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just How's it you know, that 
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for that meat for me must have 
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A the government accountability 
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geo a.gov that report came out. 
I'm sure you saw it since in and

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you know incest the fossils five
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existence, there's been 12 cases
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that one of those cases just won
Miss Sapphire is for actual sex 

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trafficking. 
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lawsuits against platforms. 
And you know what, the end 

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result of that was the 
confiscation of over 100 million

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dollars from platforms. 
So you tell me that this me, 

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come on but what it did do it 
hit the sex worker industry, so 

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hard. 
So many sex workers have been 

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put into and we don't have to 
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that. 
I mean, they have been made so 

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much more vulnerable. 
Salts are up. 

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Rapes her up, murders are up 
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Because now, I mean before says 
the Vasa, these professionals 

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have the opportunity to screen 
vet communicate about bad 

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potential Predators. 
Yes, that's all been taken away 

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and stripped away from these 
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older than anything else, older 
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And not to mention it's a 
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most of that money funds. 
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That's the shit that they don't 
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So then it's like, for 
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because that's next The list and
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social media bands left and 
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Instagram I mean our IP to you 
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porn fuck I just blanked on the 
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but that's next. 
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What was that website? 
That every Tumblr, Tumblr. 

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Wow. 
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I'm a little hungover. 
Y'all I'm, I'm powering through 

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But like, all these things, all 
these things, you know, it's 

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just one by one. 
And you know, when people are 

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saying like, oh, you're being 
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Like you don't just change up 
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I'm like, no, they're latching 
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I can only say corn for so long,
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and talking about, you know, sex
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changing around 2 SE G, GS 4. 
So long, you know, people, like 

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you said, people's livelihoods 
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So it's like, we need Community,
like, you offer, we need 

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communities like moan, you know,
for people to really just get 

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their proper education on when 
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It's not just porn and I think, 
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take a look at it. 
What is considered poor 

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nowadays? 
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Free The Kinks core mission is 
freedom of sexuality because it 

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sexuality is an expression of 
who you are and there's nothing 

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to be ashamed of and the moral, 
the moral people out there that 

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use that as their Crux, here's 
the here's the problem, like 

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what the Louisiana law, we get 
you as entity K, whereas threat 

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of being shut down every day 
because we're on social media as

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you. 
Well know, I mean, the ride can 

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be over in an instant and we had
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over again. 
But this law in Louisiana, If 

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there's a hundreds of people who
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have had serious impacts, but 
through the 60s, 70s, 80s are, 

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there are the key people who 
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Flint haffner Hoff and you know 
there's and they all paid real 

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prices for freedom of speech. 
And we we fought this battle for

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freedom of sexuality for adult 
entertainment. 

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You know is something that is 
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We're always going to like porn.
We're always gonna want to go to

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strip clubs and the reality is 
we always are going to want. 

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Brothels in the ability to have 
sex workers and they're never 

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going to be a stop it. 
But here's the thing throughout 

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history, it's a beginning of an 
unseemly man. 

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Larry Flynt's book. 
Milos Forman makes a statement 

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that rocks my world. 
Every time I hear, it's actually

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my favorite part of the book, 
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life. 
It's me with whores, quote, and 

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he talks about this throughout 
history. 

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When a tyrannical government was
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right? 
What's the three things that 

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have to happen? 
They take your freedom of speech

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and expression away, your 
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freedom, the right to bear. 
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they always. 
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that, the next thing is, when 
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always go for first within the 
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deemed perverts, okay? 
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like this Louisiana law, you 
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wants to watch porn has to put 
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database. 
The top companies in the tech 

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companies in the world get 
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fucking thing isn't going to get
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Exactly. 
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access to it. 
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Fucked up. 
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hell my friend. 
I was literally just talking 

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about this on my last episode. 
I think it was with it was not 

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mr. 
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I want to say maybe it was about
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in place. 
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allowed to fire you based off of
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preference or activities outside
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Now, of course, there are 
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to fight this and say, you know 
fuck that you don't want them to

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represent our country. 
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leak happens that's going to put
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Jeopardy. 
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don't whack off the porn. 
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and other public figures 
healthcare workers don't indulge

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in porn. 
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poor nowadays, I think is a 
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brought her on the Spectrum. 
I think, you know, putting a 

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general conversation on just p&v
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video. 
No porn is anything at this 

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point. 
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what's turning somebody on 
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It's not a job. 
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about this Louisiana law though 
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me preface with I'm not 
overturning and when I read 

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these damn laws and I'm reading 
a lot of laws lately because ftk

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really wants to move more 
towards opening up more channels

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to speak for these things. 
You got to, you got to be a damn

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rocket science to understand. 
Half the ship. 

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You think, create that way on 
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looking at this, you look at 
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single video of sale. 
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education, but the way the law 
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It says 35th more than 30% of is
sexual content. 

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All of my stuff is sexual 
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Yeah, I mean, every damn 
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So technically under their law 
me fucking I'll shut my website 

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down before I let them. 
Do all fucking move to some 

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other country. 
I don't care, because I'm not 

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going to have my members, have 
to put in their drivers license,

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to be able to come learn how to 
go home tonight and spank their 

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partner without breaking their 
tailbone and that's what we do. 

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Pharrell. 
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gonna, it's still causing a 
spiral effect. 

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week. 
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Louisiana's footsteps. 
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reading this on PBS and I'll add
the link, you know, to the 

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Bayou, for all these sources 
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But they basically are again, 
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users. 
And it took effect just this 

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past Wednesday. 
Today is the 27th episodes 

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dropping on the 20th. 
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probably listening between the 
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So anyways it just passed on 
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Requiring you know adult 
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their users and they're saying 
that it's a part. 

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It's part of their job as a 
society. 

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And you know one of the 
Republican sponsors is basically

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saying I'm not going to blame 
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pornography, but I don't think 
it's helpful when a kid is 

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forming their expressions of sex
and gender to all of this filth 

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and loot depictions on their 
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I'm sorry, but it starts with 
the home, when you do not talk 

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to your child about sex, they're
gonna go and fuck around and 

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find out somewhere else. 
Can we can we bring up Pulpit 

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here? 
So you could preach? 

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I mean, Jesus, when I was a kid,
I, you know what? 

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I got caught doing, stag of my 
dads. 

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Hustler Magazine's, okay, and I 
got my ass whooped for it, you 

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know, right? 
By the way, there's 18 states, 

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18 states right now that are 
following Louisiana, sing 18 

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states, and half of them have 
this thing. 

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There's no votes being taken by 
the People. 

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By the way, you know, this is 
just going through getting done,

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just like every goddamn thing 
else, right? 

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And so 18 states and I don't 
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this is gonna try and this was a
bipartisan Bill and, you know, 

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and you know, I'm just I'm, I am
over it all together. 

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I feel you both sides. 
They All they want is control 

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over us and if you know you look
at what they can do with this 

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data, okay, if you decide to 
start speaking out about certain

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something a certain subject, 
that's I mean you could take a 

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take your pick of the Hot Topics
today. 

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There's tons of them if some 
facts would because, you know, 

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on these laws like earn it and 
now there's state rights to 

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access this data to buy the 
AG's. 

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So what if the state decides 
because no State targets anyone?

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I know, but let's just say a 
state within the target. 

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A certain group of Of people. 
Well, now they can go to this 

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database because again, if the 
government decides, what 

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keywords are going to flag what 
messages, I can assure you, 

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these people will be on a flag 
99.9% of as they'll come up with

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a reason why that word has to be
in there. 

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Fixing, you know what happens? 
Yeah. 

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And we only do they know who you
are and we see it already use 

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that as leverage to shut people 
up when thousand percent and we 

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already see that with the data 
tracking on our smartphones. 

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Like, I'm so sick of people 
saying, like I don't have social

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media because I don't want to be
found. 

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I'm like, but you own a 
smartphone, right? 

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So everything that you do, 
that's not even social media 

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related. 
They got everything, they got 

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the lowdown on, you. 
They know you're pouring habits,

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they know, you know, your food 
habits, they know where you're 

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going, how you're going, where 
you come in and go in. 

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Because if you use Google Maps, 
it will literally show your 

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Journeys for the past whenever 
you activated the maps. 

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You people don't even realize 
when you turn location services 

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off, they still track you. 
Exactly. 

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Exactly. 
You know, exactly these 

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companies know more about you 
than, you know, about you and I 

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can predict your next move. 
This is why advertisers by all 

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this data because they could, 
they could predict your next 

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move for the next six months. 
I know what you're going to buy,

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eat where you're going to go. 
Who you gonna see? 

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They know what your religious 
and political beliefs are when 

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you're sitting there talking 
with your spouse or your best 

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friend, and private over a nice 
fat joint on the back porch, you

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think your private you're not 
private know, everything is 

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being gobbled up and that's the 
scary part of it. 

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Because now again whenever I 
talk to, you know, my friends in

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porn and a lot of them, you 
know, who were the old heads, 

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you know, in the Golden Era of 
porn which is of course the 70s 

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and 80s 80s especially because 
oh my God, yes, that I got 

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started in porn at the time that
I did because I don't have to 

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worry about Out the social media
bullshit. 

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I'm tired of it. 
You know, I'm tired of flagging 

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accounts left and right, but if 
you think about it, it's like 

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Some things were better 
protected because identities 

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weren't found your favorite porn
star and they have him and gone.

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And you never knew their real 
name unless they know no changed

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identities. 
And said I'm going to go into 

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mainstream but she don't even 
have that. 

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Now, we're porn stars and other 
adult performers and M adult 

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entertainers are trying to, you 
know, hide their identities. 

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But they can't because of the 
technology that we have today, 

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you Type in someone's name and 
you could get their address 

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their phone number and in 
everything. 

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So just like an assay for the 
crime against adult entertainers

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would knots on the rise with 
more of these bands because 

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people have to put in 
verification, Yeah. 

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Actually I wouldn't want an 
adult when adult Entertainer 

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wants to retire and go and live 
their life. 

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You know. 
They used to go to do that 

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because you know you're not 
going to recognize someone if 

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they do a few different things. 
But now it's all right there, 

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you know exactly where they're 
going, what they're doing and 

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it's a sad day in hell, that's 
been around for a long time. 

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My biggest concern is when the 
government starts putting in 

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laws like this and restricting 
the opportunity for freedom of 

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speech and expression. 
It's Not doing anything illegal.

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What they're doing is perfectly 
legal work but yet you're 

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targeting them and you're doing 
it under the guise of what we 

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all know is bullshit and you can
only do that because it's sex, 

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it's ridiculous. 
You know if it was anything else

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you can't do shit. 
The biggest drug dealers on the 

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world are not cartels. 
They are Pharmaceuticals. 

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You wouldn't do this shit to 
them you know but they'll do it 

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to sex and because they don't 
want to talk about it even 

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though that For overall health 
and mental health. 

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Your sexual expression is key to
a happy life. 

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I've been with my wife, the 
kinky Smurf for 20 years, I miss

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after. 
Let me tell you something. 

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I never once have looked across 
the counter and said, oh my God,

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I'm so glad I learned how to 
balance a checkbook with you. 

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I look across the counter and I 
say, 20 years later and I am 

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chasing this myth around the 
house. 

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I come here. 
I want a piece of that ass and 

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that's what's kept us. 
We have been through some of the

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toughest times you can possibly 
imagine but because that passion

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was there, To we never ever. 
I mean, all of my friends from 

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who got married at same time, I 
did her divorced but you know, 

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I'm still right now trying to 
chase this. 

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Girl, when I get off of here, 
I'm gonna go find this girl, you

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know, that's what makes healthy 
relationships and doesn't have 

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to be marriage. 
Friends with benefits are 

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whatever policies that relate 
that intimacy and that passion. 

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And it's so beyond, just here, 
let me jump in between your 

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legs, you know, there's so much 
that can go into the freedom of 

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sexuality and expression and 
we've got to be able to share 

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that with people. 
It's a learned experience and I 

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think people tend to forget 
that. 

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So the more that you start 
Banning sex sex on the internet,

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you are now taking away. 
Like you said, and you made a 

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very key Point May is mental 
health awareness month. 

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We're drawing it to a close but 
you know, you've seen it that I 

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people enter sex surrogacy, they
by prostitutes, they buy sex 

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workers because it's sometimes a
little bit cheaper than therapy 

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and for them. 
That is therapy. 

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So not all sex and sex, acts are
bad and that's the problem with 

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these legislators. 
That keep saying we're gonna ban

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porn. 
We're gonna ban sex work and 

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make it seem like it's the 
devil. 

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I mean it is what it is sex, 
work is work and it is work on 

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some work levels, it is a 
communication type of style of 

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work. 
It is a therapeutic style of 

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work. 
Hell it is. 

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Checks and balances like if you 
want to talk about some money, 

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money management porn is where 
it's at 100%. 

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Okay, there's no, I don't have a
cent. 

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I'm not gonna sit up here and 
say like yeah, there's, you 

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know, in every industry we got 
some dumb asses, but if you 

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think about it, I'm like, you 
talk to a sex worker about 

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money, honey, they're gonna 
Finance the fuck out of there 

449
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,600
the entire business, okay? 
Like I'm kind of low-key jealous

450
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,200
as I work by behind the scenes. 
You know, I have gotten monetary

451
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,800
offers or the most outrageous 
things that I just never felt 

452
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,100
personally comfortable with. 
But I'm like, if you are able to

453
00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:16,200
Market your entire body, there 
is somebody out there that is 

454
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,500
willing to finance your house. 
Just based off of the fact that 

455
00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:21,500
you and I may be having a 
conversation. 

456
00:24:21,700 --> 00:24:26,300
You might see me overindulge in 
lunch and that's turning you the

457
00:24:26,300 --> 00:24:29,200
fuck on. 
I'm making a monetary exchange 

458
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,500
off of my body. 
Off of my body. 

459
00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:36,300
But yet you're telling me I 
can't that my body is not my 

460
00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:39,400
body, that's what you're telling
sex workers that their bodies 

461
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,000
are their bodies and they are 
not allowed to reap the benefits

462
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,500
of their own self. 
You know, you brought up, you 

463
00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:50,700
brought up the financial aspect 
of it for adult entertainers, 

464
00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:52,400
sex workers. 
And let me tell you something 

465
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,200
ftk loot unlimited, which is my 
parent company. 

466
00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:58,300
All of us that are in the sex 
trade. 

467
00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:00,600
I have an article coming out 
then and next week, you may want

468
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,400
to check it out. 
It's about the discrimination 

469
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,400
against sex sexual cold legal 
companies and the banking 

470
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,000
system, because they make it so 
hard if you're looking for an 

471
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,900
adult Entertainer. 
And you, when you have a 

472
00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:16,600
company, you A lot of banks 
won't even take your money. 

473
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,400
They won't open account. 
They will let you fun things. 

474
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,600
I won't let you get it. 
Try, good. 

475
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,400
Try Togo getting an investment 
outside of the adult 

476
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,100
entertainment history for an 
adult. 

477
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:27,400
In a dairy products, shout out 
to my girl, a lot of Evans, she 

478
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,900
is a porn vet and Avid Avid 
speakers, especially talking 

479
00:25:31,900 --> 00:25:36,000
about this very thing. 
I believe she went to the White 

480
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,400
House. 
A couple weeks ago to talk about

481
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,900
the dangers of why, you know, 
stopping pornographers, adult 

482
00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:47,200
entertainers from Justice. 
Simply baking is you know 

483
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,000
detrimental to absolutely 
because it's like yes we all 

484
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,200
want to secretly hoard money. 
I get it. 

485
00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:55,100
You know, we all want to 
secretly hoard money in our 

486
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:57,500
homes but even our homes are our
home. 

487
00:25:57,500 --> 00:25:59,900
Fronts are not safe enough to do
so anymore. 

488
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:05,100
But when you're telling a 
professional again professionals

489
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:08,100
working in this industry that 
the money that they have earned 

490
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,000
over the past, 20, 30, 40, 
fucking years. 

491
00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:14,800
All of a sudden doesn't matter. 
What is that going to say for 

492
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,000
other people later on down in 
the road? 

493
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:19,800
Because if it starts with sex is
not just going to end with sex, 

494
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,900
it's going to trickle down to 
everything else that's basically

495
00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:27,600
saying that I your money, your 
job doesn't matter and this is 

496
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,700
just the beginning. 
Are they going to do that to 

497
00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:31,800
teachers later on and they're 
going to do that to healthcare 

498
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,800
professionals? 
All you make too much money but 

499
00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:36,300
it's not good money. 
You work for the Mart of 

500
00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:38,300
pharmaceutical company but it's 
not good money. 

501
00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:43,100
Like it's the most the funny 
thing about that is the IRS will

502
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:44,900
come. 
Come out and say we don't care 

503
00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:47,400
how you got your money. 
If you if you got your money 

504
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,300
from you know working the 
streets, we still want you to 

505
00:26:49,308 --> 00:26:50,300
report it. 
Okay. 

506
00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:53,600
But you don't even give us a 
legal way of doing so it only 

507
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,800
way for a for most people in the
adult Learners are if they want 

508
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,700
to keep it clean is to break the
law. 

509
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,800
If you're if you're if you were 
if you're a working girl or 

510
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,300
working guy if you're if you're 
in the sex workers industry 

511
00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:07,500
that's not legal. 
So if you want to be able to 

512
00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:09,800
report it, you got to do what 
you got to break the law, sort 

513
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,000
of felonious company, something 
like a cleaning crew or 

514
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,600
something. 
So you can actually Put your 

515
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,400
money in pay taxes, pay your 
bills, have a mortgage. 

516
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,600
These people are no different 
than a restaurant worker. 

517
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,800
They do the same things. 
You want your money as a 

518
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,100
government. 
Give them a vehicle in a way to 

519
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:29,500
do it. 
That part that not very exact 

520
00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:32,200
part. 
It just, it makes no sense to 

521
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,700
me. 
So, with that being said, mag 

522
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:38,800
like, what do you think the 
future of ftk and other sex 

523
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,400
positive communities? 
Like what are you going to do 

524
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,200
you You know, if more of these 
bands keep coming up in States, 

525
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,900
especially where you're most 
active users are, what steps are

526
00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:52,500
precautions have you already 
taken as far as like this 

527
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:57,100
censorship going on for the 
users that may be affected in. 

528
00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:00,000
You know, one of those 18 states
that are already taken the band.

529
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,700
Like what are the substitute 
we're about to take for that? 

530
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,600
So ftk future is changing quite 
a bit. 

531
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,100
We are always going to provide 
spaces for empowerment education

532
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:14,400
and Community but we will we 
will not be able to provide 

533
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,400
those if they win. 
And I'm not in this is this is a

534
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,700
war on sexuality and I'm sorry 
it is and so the loudest voices,

535
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:24,000
the people who are willing to be
the loudest voices, I don't give

536
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,500
a shit. 
You can come from it. 

537
00:28:25,508 --> 00:28:27,800
You can take, you can't cancel 
me, you can't turn me off. 

538
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,400
I work for myself. 
You shut one system down on me. 

539
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,100
I'll find another ftk is Going 
to get very loud here very 

540
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:37,000
quickly. 
We want to focus more on 

541
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,400
bringing the attention, 
especially to the people, you 

542
00:28:39,408 --> 00:28:43,500
know, look, I'm not a sex 
worker, but I support sex 

543
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:47,800
workers because I'm a consumer. 
I love going to the ranch. 

544
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,900
Okay, here we go. 
The ranch, me and Hillary go, 

545
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:53,700
the ranch. 
And she, I gotta, I'm not that 

546
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:57,200
rich baby. 
You can't have them all her ass 

547
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,100
is in there. 
Like I want all of them. 

548
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:06,900
The consumer of the product 
adult Entertainer. 

549
00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:09,600
Sex workers can only fight this 
fight so much if we're going to 

550
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,000
win this fight, the consumer, 
the fucking product has to. 

551
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,600
Finally stand up, say, shut up, 
leave us alone and let us have 

552
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,400
our sex workers. 
Let us have our daughter Tamar. 

553
00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:20,500
I love you all, but you guys 
don't have enough power. 

554
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,300
Okay, to fight this fight alone,
you need the consumer of the 

555
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:27,200
product is finally step up. 
I know for a lot of y'all, it's 

556
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,700
embarrassing to say you like, to
go to S, why there was the best 

557
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:33,300
time of your fucking life. 
And, you know, it You've never 

558
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:34,900
had that before. 
Okay. 

559
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:38,600
You, when you look porn, we say 
all that porn is not education. 

560
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,000
It is not. 
But you know what it is. 

561
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,900
It's fucking inspiration. 
When you're looking to try 

562
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:44,900
something new, look at that. 
Okay, let's try that. 

563
00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:47,900
Now obviously my ass don't have 
that equipment and I'm not that 

564
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:50,100
good of shape, but we're gonna 
try a version of that tonight, 

565
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:54,700
baby. 
I'm Sumer has to step up on that

566
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:56,400
note. 
We're going to take a quick sexy

567
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,400
break. 
I got a word from our sponsors. 

568
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So hang tight going to be right 
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569
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,400
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570
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572
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577
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578
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579
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581
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582
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583
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587
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Now, back to the eargasm. 
Who helped you all light that 

588
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little sexy break? 
And Shout Out. 

589
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,400
Shout out to kill in the moon 
team because they got me 

590
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,600
connected. 
They got your girl connected, no

591
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,600
is racing. 
Alright. 

592
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593
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594
00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:26,300
Because Afterglow again, like I 
said, in the ad, it's not just 

595
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:27,900
porn. 
It's not erotica. 

596
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,700
It is good. 
Just quality adult 

597
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:33,800
entertainment. 
I'm talking about Vlogs. 

598
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,800
I'm talking videos, seminars, 
everything. 

599
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,600
And then yes, over the ftk talk 
about your experiences and check

600
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,100
out the things that they got 
going. 

601
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:46,600
But seriously, we were talking 
about before the break, using 

602
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,000
these tools as enhancements. 
Because, again, yes, there is 

603
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,500
adult content that is 
educational, but the fact that 

604
00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:57,400
matter is, you know, a lot of 
these companies don't even want 

605
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,700
to be associated with the word 
porn, and that makes me actually

606
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:04,400
sad. 
It makes me kind of sad that a 

607
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:10,900
lot of companies want to say we 
rather thrive in sexual Wellness

608
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,400
then using the word porn. 
And I think personally, yeah, I 

609
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,200
I blame I blame what's going on 
right now with our government 

610
00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:24,500
with the censoring into. 
Why all of a sudden, the word 

611
00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:28,700
porn is such a taboo word and it
breaks my heart. 

612
00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:31,100
You know, it breaks my heart 
that I I've worked in this 

613
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:33,400
industry. 
For 15 years. 

614
00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:39,300
And both porn and in radio, and 
seeing that evolution of all, 

615
00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:42,900
you can't see porn on this ad or
you can't say porn for this 

616
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:44,800
company. 
Like, yeah, we know that we have

617
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,500
adults having sex, but we don't 
want to call it porn. 

618
00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:52,500
Call it erotica, call it this. 
And I also, it makes me feel 

619
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:55,400
bad. 
It feels disingenuine, sometimes

620
00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,200
where I have to talk to 
companies that feel like porn 

621
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,100
the such like a dirty shameful 
word. 

622
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:06,700
And it's like, how do we Reclaim
that how do we reclaim that as a

623
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:10,400
society of, you know, sex 
positivity because now that that

624
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,600
dies in you can't say sex 
positivity, but porn is bad. 

625
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,000
I know, right? 
It's and people are coming up 

626
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000
with more and more worse, 
distance themselves, and 

627
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,900
distance their brand away from 
porn. 

628
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,900
And you know, part of that too 
is going to become his and ftk. 

629
00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:29,700
We need to do a better job at 
that to we, I love porn. 

630
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,900
I don't actually watch a lot of 
porn because Hillary Hillary, 

631
00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:34,600
and I have this thing, man. 
You know, it's kind of funny 

632
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,200
will start a porn. 
It'll run for like three minutes

633
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,100
and then do whatever. 
I don't know. 

634
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:39,600
What else happens. 
I'm already were already in it 

635
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,200
somewhere, someone sucking 
licking, touch us up, you know 

636
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,700
where were that? 
Were that couple and some good 

637
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:45,800
nothing here. 
Anson. 

638
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,400
That's an enhancement, it's an 
enhancement, you know, but we're

639
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,700
going to have to like, I think 
we should do a better job at 

640
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:57,900
promoting as TK to have reviews,
but any time we use the word 

641
00:33:57,900 --> 00:33:59,900
porn on anything in our Facebook
groups. 

642
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,000
It gets we get a flag, get the 
flag. 

643
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,200
Like I would love to be able to.
I like what I do, you know what?

644
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,199
I really love to do is I would 
love to talk to adult 

645
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,800
entertainers about the work that
they do and how that can go into

646
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,100
education into ftk people can 
learn from it. 

647
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,500
I'm still trying to figure how 
to do that without Facebook 

648
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:20,000
shutting me down, every five 
minutes and that takes us right 

649
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,800
back to where we started in this
whole thing is, we can't say 

650
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,500
anything without getting sensor 
so I think a lot of people are 

651
00:34:25,507 --> 00:34:27,100
trying to find words they can 
use. 

652
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:29,699
But like you said, how long is 
that going to have to last at 

653
00:34:29,699 --> 00:34:33,500
some point people like mirrors 
got to say fuck it. 

654
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,400
I guess they shut me down. 
They shut me down. 

655
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,800
I'll have to find another way. 
Maybe maybe Miss Sapphire. 

656
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,400
Let me come on once a week and 
talk to people. 

657
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,600
I don't know. 
That's all we're going to do. 

658
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,699
We're going to have to take more
risk like we risk. 

659
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:45,699
Yeah. 
Like I said, You're always 

660
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:48,699
invited to the sapphire, 
cookout, I don't cook but honey,

661
00:34:48,699 --> 00:34:51,800
I can provide a mean dessert if 
you get my drift, but you are 

662
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,500
always, always, always fucking 
welcome back because like I 

663
00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:59,900
said, when you and I connected 
on the monad, I just immediately

664
00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:03,400
I gravitated to your voice and 
then researching about free the 

665
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,700
kink in, you know, just looking 
at what you do and provide I 

666
00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:11,500
really want people to understand
it's like yeah, don't let the 

667
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:14,900
word King fool you. 
We do talk about Kink but again,

668
00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:18,500
you're Offering a safe haven for
folks who are probably deprived 

669
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:21,600
in their cities and their towns 
and their, you know, bunkers on 

670
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,900
the hill yet, these sexual 
experiences like you. 

671
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:29,400
And I get because of where we 
live, you know, we live in 

672
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,100
cities of sin, you know, we live
in cities, where sex is 

673
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:36,500
accessible accessible more 
accessible. 

674
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:39,900
So, when you're taking down 
communities like yourself, it's 

675
00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:45,500
like You're doing a disservice 
to society, you know as we keep 

676
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:49,200
saying and I think the ongoing 
theme of this episode, it's like

677
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:54,600
your sexual Journey should be a 
healing positive enhancement to 

678
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,100
your life, what I do. 
But yeah, what I do behind 

679
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,700
closed doors. 
What you do behind closed doors 

680
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,100
if you're not going out and 
killing people after you, you 

681
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:09,300
know, sexually satisfy somebody.
Who am I to judge? 

682
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,800
If you're not coughing hostak 
consensual adult, that is the 

683
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,800
only requirements. 
You know, well-informed 

684
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,700
consensual adults doing what 
they want to do, that makes them

685
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:24,100
happy things that make them 
pleasure, 25 years ago, Miss 

686
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:25,700
Sapphire. 
If you would have said to me 

687
00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:31,700
mac, try a golden shower. 
Well you're a crazy way to talk 

688
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:34,300
about that's nasty. 
I've done all that, right? 

689
00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:40,200
It's one of my top 5 favorites. 
Well damn, okay, well they are 

690
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,700
you scared? 
I'm wild out over here. 

691
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:44,000
I love it. 
You know. 

692
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,100
So I mean this is if and if I 
would have had a chance to find 

693
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:49,800
a way to even find it or 
experience it, how would I have 

694
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,700
even known? 
I would have even known well, 

695
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:55,100
like I said, you know, don't 
knock it till you, try it. 

696
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:57,000
But I don't know me and bodily 
fluids. 

697
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:02,100
That's a whole different topic 
but and in that and that's 

698
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:04,200
awesome, you know, right? 
I mean that's how it's supposed 

699
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,700
to be. 
And that's why wedding before we

700
00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:09,000
end this and I'll weave Touch of
acid is still the number one 

701
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,000
thing. 
People need to do in these 

702
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,800
Dynamics, is vet to your little 
heart is vetted out, okay? 

703
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,900
Because if you don't, that's how
you get hurt. 

704
00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:19,300
That's how don't let there be a 
misunderstanding anywhere. 

705
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,100
Okay, what would you say for, 
you know, people like ourselves 

706
00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:27,400
who are, you know, going through
the struggles of, you know, just

707
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,600
trying to provide good quality, 
sex positive content, but they 

708
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,200
are getting discouraged by, you 
know, the very same things that 

709
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,800
we've been talking about. 
Do you have any tips for folks, 

710
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,500
or You know, any resources where
they can come on over and say 

711
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:44,300
like here, this is the space 
where you can go and you know, 

712
00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:48,700
be your natural self 100%. 
So look, there's a lot of places

713
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:50,300
and I get it. 
I get it more than you can 

714
00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:52,000
possibly some days. 
I'm just like, fucking I moved 

715
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,200
to the mountains and be done 
with it. 

716
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:55,100
I don't really want to deal with
it, but we know we can't do 

717
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:56,800
that. 
So first thing I think is always

718
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,800
take that breath. 
You know, provide some self love

719
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,200
to yourself, getting the right 
headspace and then try to 

720
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,900
remember why you're doing the 
first place. 

721
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:06,400
What was your original goals and
it's those still matter to you, 

722
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:08,200
you got to keep I never fight, 
man. 

723
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,800
He got to keep doing it. 
Organization organizations doing

724
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,200
is, I guess, TK come over to the
mo nap and follow him a sapphire

725
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,600
over there. 
So you know what she is have 

726
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,800
rooms and other people that 
you're like, find that community

727
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,100
of people who you relate to, you
know, has my dear friend cash 

728
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:26,000
dances, you got find your tribe 
and then be in places where your

729
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,200
tribe is that and people who are
going to accept you for who you 

730
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,300
are because that gives you Fuel 
and nourishment to go out there 

731
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:33,500
and fight the fight. 
You have to fight, you know, 

732
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:35,800
because you got to fill up that 
cup man, you gotta fill up your 

733
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,200
cup if you just keep drinking. 
I let other folks drink from 

734
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,500
your cup without putting some 
time into and filling it up. 

735
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:46,600
You don't wear out 100% ftk Mac.
I always call you both because I

736
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,800
mean shit, you embody 
everything. 

737
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:52,700
You know you've made this space 
just what it is and just you 

738
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:57,400
know I just I am so grateful 
that I the sex positive Stars 

739
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:02,200
aligned because I don't think I 
would have heard about your 

740
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,800
organization. 
Had it not been for the monat 

741
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:06,600
you know how did not make a 
kale. 

742
00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:07,200
Yeah. 
See. 

743
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,400
Really thank you. 
I might have to send you. 

744
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,700
This are check but seriously 
it's you know I am just so 

745
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:16,700
thankful for what you bring to 
the table, I am really like 

746
00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:20,100
manifesting it that you and I 
are gonna do something together 

747
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:23,700
in person and kind of just bring
more, you know, communal support

748
00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:28,800
together with that said, 100%. 
What's going on next for ftk in 

749
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,500
Mac like what can people look 
forward to you? 

750
00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:33,300
How can they get connected with 
you? 

751
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:40,000
Now's your time to shine and you
can I hear you before we say 

752
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,400
that on the team is sapphire 
Hillary and I love you to death 

753
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:45,000
we love you to death. 
You're so awesome and you have 

754
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,400
been fighting longer than most 
people have even known. 

755
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,100
There was a fight to be had, so 
whatever ftk can ever do for 

756
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:52,500
you. 
We're right here. 

757
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,900
Will support it will, promote it
will do whatever we need to do. 

758
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,100
Anyone who wants to find ftk, 
can finance a free the kink.com.

759
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,900
You know, you can go onto 
Facebook group. 

760
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:03,800
Our main Facebook group is free,
the Kink we have 12 total. 

761
00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:07,200
So No matter what you're into, 
we even have a group called 

762
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,900
Little Fort which in April, of 
next year we're having Littles 

763
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:12,500
in Las Vegas which is going to 
be a conference three-day 

764
00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:15,400
conference in Vegas for Littles.
You have to be 21 plus because 

765
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,300
we're going wild out, you got 
tickets. 

766
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:20,900
I know you're not a daddy, your 
as a d type in it. 

767
00:40:20,908 --> 00:40:22,700
That's okay. 
You can still come and have fun.

768
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,900
It's going to be a Candyland 
game fee. 

769
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,500
Wow. 
So it's going to be kind of cool

770
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:31,400
might have to do like a live 
podcast broadcast because that 

771
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,100
sound when that be fun, that 
sounds interesting. 

772
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,300
They just put me in a little 
radio corner. 

773
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,400
I would love to interview the 
little before the, you know, 

774
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,600
they go into punishment because 
that's the communities that I 

775
00:40:44,607 --> 00:40:46,700
have yet to tap into, you know, 
lately. 

776
00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:49,800
I've been tapping into the 
cuckold community on sapphires 

777
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,300
are place. 
So now I got to tap into the 

778
00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:53,300
littles. 
So if your little listening, 

779
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:56,000
tapping, can I put your girl? 
I want to, I want to talk to 

780
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,400
you. 
Let's get into the air. 

781
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,700
As, you know, we've been 
sharing, we've been sharing your

782
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:04,500
play and ftk for the last 34 
weeks, now, and ironic Weekly 

783
00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:07,200
basis. 
So we know the littles, they're 

784
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,400
there. 
They're finding it now you got. 

785
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,000
It doesn't thing, you know, 
everybody needs. 

786
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,900
Everybody needs a place to come 
and learn. 

787
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,000
And your podcast is a great 
place to thank you for having 

788
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,900
me. 
Thank you for just being 

789
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:20,400
available. 
Always is down for whatever and 

790
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,900
I definitely want to bring you 
back for more conversations 

791
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:26,900
because Mac, I feel like you and
I could just talk about anything

792
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:30,600
underneath the sign, and I hope 
just you earbuds listening. 

793
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,100
Just got a taste of again, not 
just the censorship. 

794
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,400
It but also the fact of why it 
is so important that we have 

795
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,900
people like mac and the 
community space of ftk around 

796
00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:44,600
and why you should get 
connected. 

797
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,700
If you're feeling kind of lost 
in your own sexual journey, and 

798
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:51,100
speaking about sexual Journeys, 
my next guest which are dropping

799
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:53,400
on the fourth. 
We're going to talk about the 

800
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,600
religious aspect of this one 
dynamic duo, the fly Duo 

801
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,000
production crew. 
You may know them as sex tech 

802
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,000
and chill but they're going to 
come on and talk. 

803
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:06,900
About their Journey about 
leaving Jehovah's Witness and 

804
00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:10,700
just rediscovering themselves in
a sexual exploitation unlike any

805
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:14,200
other. 
So, again, all these these 

806
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:19,600
people that I bring on weekly 
please, please follow support. 

807
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,300
Share it. 
Spread it around. 

808
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:24,800
It may not be for you, so give 
it to somebody else, but it 

809
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,300
takes a whole ass Community. 
It takes a whole ass movement to

810
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:32,900
overthrow this bullshit that we 
are talking about right now. 

811
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,600
It's things like this. 
That fucking matter. 

812
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,000
And that's why we have to stick 
together in this fight. 

813
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:43,500
So Mac hundred percent. 
Thank you just truly, truly. 

814
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:45,200
Thank you. 
Thank you, boys. 

815
00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:47,300
Thank you. 
Thank you so much. 

816
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,700
All right here, buys that is all
for now, but of course, you can 

817
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:54,000
reach me at Miz radio, 
Sapphire.com at Miz radio, 

818
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,800
Sapphire on Instagram. 
No Twitter at sapphires are play

819
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000
on Instagram as well. 
And if you are tired of me 

820
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,900
saying all these things, just go
to the link link on this 

821
00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:05,500
episode. 
I sewed, I'm going to put Max 

822
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:07,500
links in so y'all can talk and 
stalk him. 

823
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:10,500
Follow him, you don't give them 
some love, give them some 

824
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:13,000
suggestions. 
This man is so easy to talk to, 

825
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,900
so please bring them onto your 
platforms. 

826
00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:20,500
With that said, safe sex is the 
best hot sex till next week 

827
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,000
good. 
That was the show. 

828
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,600
All you sexy motherfuckers out 
there. 

829
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,700
Remember to follow, Adam is 
Radio Sapphire and sapphires 

830
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:31,400
here, play on Instagram, one 
Samir guys into the past and 

831
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,100
future make sure to follow on 
Apple podcasts anchor. 

832
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,000
Or Spotify iHeartRadio and all 
streaming platforms. 

833
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,000
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