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Warning, the following program 
is not for the weak hearted, 

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those who are close minded or in
general you're scared to learn 

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what's behind closed doors. 
Here at Sapphires Airplay. 

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I want you to pour the wine, 
grab somebody that you want to 

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hold on to, or better yet, get 
the vibration stimulated through

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your body. 
Get ready for one hell of an 

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orgasm in 54321. 
What is up all you sexy 

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motherfuckers out there in 
Radioland? 

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It's your girl Megan Sapphire. 
And if you guys are probably 

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watching this, you're like, oh, 
I know this face. 

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And if you don't know this face,
well, first of all, happy 

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Juneteenth to all you melanated 
folks out there. 

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And second of all, this is my 
wonderful, beautiful wifey. 

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Please nobody come at me. 
There's a history with this, OK?

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This is why I say wifey. 
But the beautiful chocolate 

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goddess of all time, Miss Anna 
fucking Fox. 

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Oh, my goodness. 
I I'm so glad that you signed up

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to do this with me. 
Yes, ma'am. 

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I think the time is just like 
finally come. 

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It's perfect timing. 
And let's take it back a little 

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bit because some people are 
like, wait a second, you called 

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her wifey. 
So you must know. 

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We know we go back. 
We do go back. 

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We. 
Go way way we do. 

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Lots of shenanigans. 
Lots. 

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Of shenanigans. 
And it's oddly enough like you 

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and I kind of met in the like as
porn babies. 

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Yes, yeah. 
Very, very, very young in the 

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industry. 
And so some people are like, 

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wait, you've performed Sapphire?
No, I have not. 

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No, no, no, no, no. 
I've always been behind the mic,

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literally in the radio industry.
And I met Anna pretty much at 

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the height of my Playboy career,
which was great. 

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And you've been in this business
for over 10 years now. 

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Over 10 years now, yeah. 
Oh my God. 

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Yeah, so the time has come 
where, you know, on Sapphire 0 

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play I'm always going to call 
out some shit. 

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And I'm not going to lie, this 
has been something on my mind 

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for a long, long time. 
And when I got a call from you, 

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and it's always interesting 
because if I get a call from 

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Anna, it's always like, girl, 
listen to some shit. 

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It's never like, oh, how are you
doing? 

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No, I need to call you on this 
shit. 

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There needs to be no trace, no 
evidence, no trace of this call 

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every happening. 
So we got we got to talk about 

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it. 
And what better way to talk 

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about it during Juneteenth, Yes.
And it's really, I don't want to

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say calling out the industry, 
but it's it's time Y'all, you 

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know, five years ago, the 
avians, they notoriously said 

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that they were going to get rid 
of, you know, the Ebony 

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category, they were going to be 
a little bit more black friendly

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to their foreign users. 
We'll Fast forward now to 2025 

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and we've still never seen 
really much a change. 

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I left actually Evil Angel back 
in 2023. 

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Well, actually, no, last year, 
2024. 

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And I even had talked about the 
uncomfortableness, you know, 

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working behind the scenes and 
looking at old porn titles that 

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we're now trying to almost erase
or say that these things never 

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happened. 
And so this leads me to my 

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conversation with Anna. 
And you have gotten a lot of 

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backlash, I would say not even 
just this year alone, but 

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notoriously, what was it 6 years
ago? 

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There's this picture of you on 
the 2019 NBN Awards and you've 

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came full out African pride. 
And that's a big no no. 

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Yeah. 
So, so let's get down to it. 

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Like why now? 
Why me, out of all people, out 

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of all the outlets that you 
could speak to, why do you think

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you had to come onto my platform
to really call out the industry 

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on? 
I don't want to say the blatant 

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racism, but there's just no 
support. 

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There's no support for the black
community anymore. 

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I feel like that's why I came to
you because I've done like 100 

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interviews my whole career. 
But I feel like people are 

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afraid to ask the obvious, even 
when they'll ask about like race

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in the industry and like if it's
good or bad, they'll still are 

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afraid to like, let me go into 
the tea. 

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And it's been a long time coming
like from like this little 

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instance, this one to my 
experience, to her experience, 

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to our experience, it's just 
been like kind of like treated 

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like we're overreacting for for 
them under reacting. 

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So yeah. 
Yes, honestly, for me, it's 

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always been the titles. 
It's never been about the 

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performance. 
It's always been the titles. 

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Like there was one, I think when
I was first starting at Evil 

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Angel, one of the titles was 
Black chicks sucking Dick. 

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Yeah. 
And I'm like, yeah, wait a 

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second. 
Yeah. 

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We're still. 
We are still doing that. 

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We're still doing. 
That we are still doing that 

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like it's been from things like 
that to like the the the best 1 

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during 2020. 
Black facials matter, you know, 

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to to black. 
Facials matter. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
And then and then speaking up 

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about how problematic titles 
like that are. 

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Yeah, it gets you in trouble 
when when we're the ones 

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affected by it, like we are the 
ones that like have to perform 

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and we have less opportunities 
to perform under I would say 

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like more elegant titles, like 
more humane titles. 

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And if we decline to want to 
shoot underneath a like a 

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problematic title, then we just 
don't work. 

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Right. 
See and that's what I don't 

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understand is how a title or you
just refusing to do a certain 

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scene because you feel it's 
uncomfortable really can't 

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affect the paycheck. 
Oh, it can, yeah. 

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How is so? 
Have you ever in your career I 

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had to take a significant pay 
cut because you spoke out? 

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Oh yeah, yeah, I would say like 
the biggest 1 was my 

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relationship with like the whole
umbrella of like vixen Black 

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tushy. 
Once I had my little hole like 

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banana gate thing happen, my 
relationship not only stopped 

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with that one director who the 
issue was with, it stopped with 

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everyone underneath that whole 
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Banana gate for some people who 
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Who don't know for the first 
time, 4 black girls women were 

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hired by forgive me for mixing 
up the companies, but I believe 

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blacked and we were given 
bananas to pose with And when we

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spoke up about like what are the
bananas for? 

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Because it was Valentine's Day, 
we weren't sucking them. 

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Like I could understand because 
I would suck a banana, I'd fuck 

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a banana and that doesn't have 
to do anything with my race. 

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But we didn't do anything like 
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So when we spoke up about it 
plus plus plus it was a whole 

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day. 
It was a whole day like that was

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like one of eight things that 
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Like there was like the Google. 
It I'm like low key kind of like

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my heart kind of stopped for a 
second because first of all, you

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said this was for Valentine's 
Day, which falls on Black 

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History Month, and nobody 
thought that this was not going 

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to have some type of backlash. 
No, no, not until like the end 

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of the day because we had to 
start complaining on set, which 

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isn't normal. 
Like I normally don't have too 

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much to complain about. 
But it was this that the 

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bananas, the floor, the talent, 
like the cleanliness of the 

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house, no heater in the house, 
you know, yes, there was like a 

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whole list of things. 
And when we complained, we were 

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no longer hired by the company 
when I had been the first Vixen 

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Angel, the first black Vixen 
Angel and I was number six of 

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the first top 10 Vixen Angels. 
So like to be like within the 

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company, like actively working 
and then have this one issue, 

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which I feel like it's like 
racially motivated and then have

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no more work with that that line
anymore and feel like other 

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companies didn't want to 
associate. 

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That's like the biggest pay cut 
I could have got for something 

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that I had no control over. 
And just for speaking out. 

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And this is, you know, not just 
a regular nine to five job. 

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No. 
This could have been also a 

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career ending decision. 
Yeah. 

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Which again, how long did this 
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Like 4 or five years ago. 5 Like
before it was. 

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It was before COVID I think. 
OK, so it's still like in the 

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height, Yeah. 
Like the heightening racial 

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tension, yeah, of the 20 
twenties. 

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I mean, racial tensions have 
been high, you know, throughout 

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history. 
And in fact, it's crazy to me 

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because when you think about 
black pornographers and they 

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talk about, you know, some of 
the things that we do on camera,

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it it's crazy when you look at 
the statistics that 36% of the 

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scenes are also white women 
being targets of the aggression 

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of black men. 
OK, We've seen it with the the 

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Bros, you know, in the car on 
the websites and they're, you 

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know, hollering at white chicks,
but they're also like dragging 

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her ass. 
And nobody's saying that this is

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a problem thing, a problematic 
thing. 

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But have the roles been flicked?
I feel like black people would 

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be like, oh, no, that's, you 
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This is not how we get down. 
But at the same time, what are 

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you telling in cells on the 
Internet that this is the way to

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approach white women as a black 
man or that black men are always

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going to be aggressive for sex, 
which can even go back to the 

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slave days when we had, you 
know, the Mandingos and you know

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the true origins of cuckolding. 
But that's not why we're here. 

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But that makes you need to go do
your homework and research on 

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why even cuckolding is such a 
racist thing in porn. 

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So leading it back to that, it's
crazy to me that again, a 

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percentage that high violence 
towards white women, then you 

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see the flip where it's like we 
don't see the violence against 

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black women or do we? 
Oh yes, they the fans, the 

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unfortunately it's the black men
fans that love to like harass 

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black female performers for 
anything that they might do 

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remotely violent. 
When our options for 

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performances shoots that we can 
do are limited like a lot of the

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new black girls, unfortunately 
like you'll get like a company 

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like ghetto gaggers or something
that wants to shoot with you. 

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Is it her fault that like no 
other company thinks that she's 

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worth it and this company is 
willing to pay her a white girl?

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Wait, you know what I mean? 
So then if she does that scene, 

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then the fans will fucking slam 
her and be like, how dare you? 

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But I don't see any of the like 
the flips on the comments of, 

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you know, white women. 
But black women can't do 

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anything like that. 
It's too far. 

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It's too far. 
They don't have other options. 

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There's there's this or that. 
And if you're not lucky enough 

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to be a token, where do you go? 
Speaking of, I feel like you've 

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been used as. 
A token? 

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Oh yeah, For quite a while, yes.
Like. 

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Endearingly. 
Oh yeah. 

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It's like every time I do see 
you and like, even when I talk 

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to friends and I'm like, oh, 
this is Anna Fox. 

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You know, they're like, oh, 
that's the one, the one that I 

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always see. 
And it's like, you'll name other

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names Kira Noir and Miss you so.
But those are also all the 

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tokenisms of black women in 
porn. 

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We're so separated too, as our 
as our tokens, like Misty does 

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this and like we're not allowed 
to like or we don't really like 

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work together or cross to like, 
like she's there, she's there 

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and she's there. 
They're not all in the same. 

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Right, it's not a Charlie's 
Angel thing. 

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No, no, no, no. 
Which I'm like it would be kind 

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of. 
Cool. 

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It makes sense like we're the 
only like race of girls that 

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they don't have really collab 
together. 

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And I wonder why, because we're 
like in the top selling like in 

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the US every year it it says 
like who's the top right Ebony 

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is up there. 
Ebony is. 

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Every year in top Yeah, last 
year was. 

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Top three, I think it's been in 
the top three, yeah, so. 

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I don't understand, Like you 
could also. 

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I mean, if we're going to go 
there, we'll go there. 

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Brown paperback tests. 
Yeah, I did notice like, not 

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only me complaining, but a lot 
of black girls in porn but 

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complain about their skin tones 
being lightened in the 

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promotions of their porns to 
almost make them look like white

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passing, you know what I mean? 
So like a lot of girls, like you

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would see them underneath their 
own porn. 

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Like why did you lighten me like
this? 

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Like I know Demi Sutra. 
I know September rain like I've 

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seen like multiple girls like 
say these things about even 

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myself like I'm like as dark as 
they come and I've still even 

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seen myself lightened up. 
I've seen you lightened up in 

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right and I mean. 
Who is that? 

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Again, you know, it's like, why 
are we so scared to see the 

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different shades of blackness? 
OK, that's the thing. 

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Black people come in different 
shades and colors, just like 

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Mexican folks come in, Latino 
folks, let me you know, say they

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all come in different shades. 
Asian folks come in different 

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shades. 
But yet you see it in porn all 

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the time. 
It's never, you know, the light 

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skinned dark black man. 
You know, it's always the 

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chocolate. 
Yeah, Black's always featured 

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dark chocolate, gangsta, 
thuggish looking men. 

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Yeah, and you know, vice versa. 
Now they're just like props for 

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the girls to sit on. 
They're like, oh, they're no, 

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they're classy. 
They're in suits, but like 

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they're the prop. 
But like the girl, like in the 

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pictures, I think you might have
showed me a picture where the 

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girl was like literally like 
he's like a couch. 

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She's like posing on him like 
he's a couch. 

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Like again, what what what are 
we trying to portray? 

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And again, before people start 
saying well this is what we 

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like, I think the porn industry 
low key thinks that the average 

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porn user is so dumb that if you
were to just change Ebony to 

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just black they would be too 
dumb to notice. 

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Yeah, they do. 
They do. 

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They do. 
I'm like, I'd rather just see 

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black porn, black pussy, black 
hair, like even just the fact 

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that I have to go. 
In black love, black Love and. 

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Even still, I'm seeing white 
girls pop up. 

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Latina chicks. 
No offense, but again, there's 

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nothing for us. 
No, there's no space for us to 

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be us. 
No. 

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Even people when I told them 
that Black wasn't technically a 

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Black-owned company. 
You know. 

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Like again, there's only so 
much, there's only so much in 

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this laying in Ave. that we 
actually have a say in. 

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Or do you have to go through the
back streets of like ghetto 

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gaggers or, you know, some 
degrading type of C list porn, 

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if you will, just to say, oh, 
I'm supporting a black artist 

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right now amongst the black 
performers. 

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Over the years, there have been 
dinners, there have been 

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gatherings and award shows. 
Can we get to the Realty about 

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what happened exactly this year?
Because I found it kind of rude 

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that I was invited to the 
browser's dinner. 

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What was it last year? 
And then all of a sudden, Black 

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History Month comes around. 
My invitation is not in the 

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mail. 
I know a couple other people's 

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invitations were in the mail, 
and then there was some kerfuff 

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for fuffling with with your 
invitation. 

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Yeah. 
And whatnot. 

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Yeah. 
And yeah, we're supposed to be 

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celebrating everybody. 
Black excellence, right? 

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Right. 
If we're truly celebrating in 

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Black excellence, why weren't 
you celebrating Black 

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excellence? 
Like how did you, how did you 

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accidentally uninvite people who
are literally the definition of 

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black excellence? 
Like now it's one thing for the 

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people who did get an invite and
didn't show up, but I think that

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it's really ironic that you were
there when it started. 

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I was there when it started, 
other performers that were there

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when it started off of my 
performer ass body and then 

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browsers wants to have a hand in
helping and then somehow it gets

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flipped to I don't fuck with 
them. 

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So they didn't invite me to the 
dinner that I started to 

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celebrate black excellence. 
I never said that like I'm 

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allowed to have issues with the 
company as a performer. 

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That doesn't mean like fuck the 
company altogether. 

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Like if my scene, if my scene 
wasn't comfortable, I'm allowed 

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to. 
Am I not allowed to voice that? 

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Do I have to pretend that it's 
Peaches and roses every time? 

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That's ridiculous. 
It's adult. 

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So it's really ironic that like,
oh, we don't know. 

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It was this person's fault. 
It was that person's fault. 

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Well, that girl said this, that 
girl said that. 

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How did it go from you guys 
literally like what, three years

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ago, wanting to just like 
document it, film it to 

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everybody completely forgetting 
how it even fucking started. 

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And then you guys like taking 
people out who don't, who don't,

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who don't champion for you, you 
know, like, if you're not a 

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cheerleader, that has nothing to
do with our blackness in our 

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industry. 
Exactly. 

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In such a marginalized again 
community that doesn't get their

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moment. 
No, we're black women, 

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especially in the industry, have
less of a space in the industry.

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All of the award shows are not, 
are not, you know, praising us. 

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We are the only ones that don't 
really have like a space. 

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So creating that space is which 
I did when it's really weird how

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you get excluded from the own 
space that you created for you, 

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for you. 
So I'd still like to know how 

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like I didn't get, I didn't. 
And then like I really didn't 

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feel the support from some other
black performers that could have

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helped in that situation. 
The ones that should have had my

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back really didn't have my back.
What's kind of weird for me is 

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that, and I am going to call 
this out, we're the black men in

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the industry that are supposed 
to be protecting their black 

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Queens because I don't feel the 
support and love, especially 

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with the men like you. 
And I became close over the 

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years through another black 
performer, black male performer.

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And that's the only person that 
I could actually really call 

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upon. 
And I know he doesn't like to be

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in the spotlight, but like, 
there are other people and the 

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Ricky Johnsons, I'm sorry, but 
the cash monies. 

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Sometimes I feel like I feel 
like they have got in their 

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space and that they're afraid to
say anything because like, look 

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at like if they invite a black 
woman to the space and I open my

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mouth, they're like, oops, 
sorry, we never knew her. 

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So like if he's up there, I feel
like maybe they feel they think 

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the same way, but it's like they
have, we have the least amount 

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of power in the industry out of 
everybody. 

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Like we're underneath, like 
everybody, like. 

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Yet you guys are such the 
marketable. 

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Yeah. 
Marketable, you know, space. 

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Yeah. 
You guys are the ones that do 

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bring customers out. 
I'm not lying, you know, going 

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to ADNS, which I probably will 
never go again. 

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To be honest, that was just a 
little bit too much for me even 

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as a nominee. 
But like when I've been 

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disrespected in the, you know, 
in the space as someone who is 

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very loyal to the adult 
industry, you know, I never like

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to shit on y'all. 
But at the same time, when I'm 

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seeing my black performers 
constantly being put on the back

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burner or they're not in the 
front of the, you know, big name

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boots, but yet they're the ones 
that are selling the DVDs, they 

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are selling the merch. 
They're promoting it. 

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You guys are promoting the hell 
out of it, but there's no, like,

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come on, there's no big space. 
I know you've taken a lot of 

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Flack even for your, you know, 
creative tapes with Playboy, 

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which is like, first of all, 
it's monumental. 

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I mean, Playboy has had 
relationships with a lot of 

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black women throughout the years
as Playboy bunnies. 

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But for someone like yourself to
go from a performer to now, 

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like, into this creative space, 
you are trying to enter this new

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phase of, like, giving us a 
platform. 

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But yeah, there's the set back 
where it's like, Oh, no, she 

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still has to remain, you know, 
in her own space. 

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She used to stay in her own 
lane. 

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They I don't feel like people 
were considering like my 

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directing for Playboy, like 
Sirius, I'm the only producer 

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for their team that was 
specifically bringing sex worker

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black sex worker women to their 
platform. 

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And I, I feel like I'd see other
girls just like simply like fuck

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a DJ and get so much more credit
for that. 

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And I was like, but did you guys
know that like that that was 

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like me, myself and I doing it 
like creatively out of my own 

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money, my. 
Time and everything. 

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And like, I like I, I don't 
know, like I don't, I don't see 

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anybody else trying that hard 
for black women. 

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So I just was like, I just don't
understand, like why these 

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things don't matter to, to the 
rest of the industry. 

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And if you speak up about it, 
they're just like, again, again,

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look at her, look at her. 
I mean, every industry is going 

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to have their, you know, black 
sheep and they're going to have 

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their, you know, 
underappreciated audience. 

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But at the same time, other 
industries have unions. 

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Yeah. 
Why in the porn industry do you 

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think we don't have unions? 
'Cause everybody is so, so 

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sprawled out, like so individual
thinking, some people think we 

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need it, some people don't. 
We can't even get united on like

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testing protocols and things 
like that. 

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So, you know, it's really hard 
to get this industry to unify. 

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If some people are benefit the, 
the, the top people are 

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benefiting from it not being so.
So why? 

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Why would they push for that? 
I mean, I've always said there 

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has to be some type of 
unionization because when you 

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guys need residuals for 
everybody who's outside of the 

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industry, they don't really get 
residuals as like Hollywood 

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actors get paid. 
And it's the same thing that's 

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happening right now. 
Like I'm a part of SAG AFTRA. 

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And unfortunately, as Hollywood 
is seeking a major dive, it also

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counts down to the people in 
production. 

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So thank you to our girl filming
for this, because shout out to 

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the production teams because 
they also need to have, you 

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know, hello, their reparations 
due too. 

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So bring it back to the adult 
industry. 

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It's funny how again, when 
you're working and you're 

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reproducing content and it 
doesn't go directly to the hands

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of those who may have created it
or may have, oh, I don't know, 

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risk their their bodily health, 
AKA actresses like Anna, and 

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they do not get paid. 
What does that say about this 

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community that takes the literal
money off the backs of 

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performers? 
So again, when people say 

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unionization doesn't work in the
adult industry, it's not just 

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because of the exploitation. 
Let's be honest, you don't want 

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to pay people their work. 
You are still basing the pay off

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the color of the skin or how old
they are or if you're a male or 

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female or the fact that they 
have a bigger Dick size, a 

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bigger tip size. 
Again, pay people their fucking 

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work. 
And if you're going to be 

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profiting off of the black 
dollars and you want to use hip 

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hop as a reference, it's a porn 
AKA Pornhub with your wards AV 

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NS with your you know, we see 
you when you try to get, you 

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know, on the money train of 
backing up hip hop artists to 

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come and host and, you know, say
their little 2. 

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PS But again, what are you 
saying about supporting the 

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black community who has thrived 
throughout the years, has had 

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rising stars come and go with no
nominations or no recognition? 

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How is it that you have had a 
career of over 10 years and yet 

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we see the same nominees and 
winners API, you are still 

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considered the best and it 
doesn't take Urban X to 

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recognize because let's be 
honest, that's another cop out 

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award show. 
We could talk about that later. 

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But again, at least you are 
recognizing some black 

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nominations and nominees, but 
you're still not embodying all 

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the black performers and you 
know the talent. 

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So I don't know, I just a lot 
can be said. 

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Yeah, I know, I know. 
My mind is like there's so many 

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girls that I've never seen like 
get that I'm like this. 

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Do you know what she can do? 
Do you know what she does? 

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Do you know what she looks like?
Like do you know like when she 

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walks down the fucking St. how 
many people would crash a car 

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cuz how fine she is? 
And she's never got like, you 

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know, like, OK. 
And yet it would still be just 

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another porn hole to y'all. 
But at the same time, it's like 

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if I see, you know, black women 
just excelling in any type, I 

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don't care what the business is.
But especially in porn where 

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you're already getting backlash 
as a woman, as a black female, 

445
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,320
then you're busting it wide open
on camera. 

446
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,280
That's a lot to say. 
That's a lot to endure. 

447
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,280
I can't imagine the comments 
that you get constantly for, you

448
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,800
know, just being a black woman 
who may fuck black guys and 

449
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,120
white guys. 
You know, they sat in the third 

450
00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:53,000
and then they want to inquire 
about your private life. 

451
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,760
And it's like, no, no. 
I've never like I don't get it. 

452
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,040
Like I know for a fact that the 
black women have a different 

453
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,400
type of discrimination, 
discrimination when it comes to 

454
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,920
us being sex workers. 
Like it's insane. 

455
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,000
Like the the like Dick color 
counting is insane. 

456
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,920
Like I've I've never. 
Wait, wait, Dick. 

457
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,480
Color counting. 
Yes ma'am. 

458
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,520
Yes ma'am. 
Like. 

459
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,200
Who? 
What color, Dick? 

460
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,040
Was that one, like, I've never 
thought about that shit before. 

461
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,160
Like I've never, I've never had 
like a racial preference when it

462
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,480
comes to penis. 
OK. 

463
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,600
But obviously the guys that 
watch it do and they seem to 

464
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,840
think because they can't find a 
black Dick that they mean that, 

465
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,000
that you don't, that you don't 
do it or whatever. 

466
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,920
And I'm like, where did that? 
Where did that come from? 

467
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,640
I, I'm an equal opportunity 
pussy over here. 

468
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,560
I'll fuck anything. 
Yeah, I, I'll fuck. 

469
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:46,840
I fuck a lot of things, like 
everything, everything. 

470
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,440
So my pussy will get like, who 
said that? 

471
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,400
Go ask the guys on my street. 
Like, is that true? 

472
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,920
That's not true. 
And it's like, it's like a 

473
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,560
super, it's like a specific kind
of hate that we got to deal 

474
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,400
with. 
And then we got to wake up by a 

475
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,360
wig so we can go to work so we 
can be presentable enough to be 

476
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,720
on the camera where the comments
are going to be talking shit 

477
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,640
about us because damned if we 
do, damned if we don't, you know

478
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,200
what I mean? 
And then they're like, well, you

479
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,000
guys just aren't like selling 
enough. 

480
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,560
Like, well, I'm sorry that we're
not the ones that you guys keep 

481
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,080
pumping money into a specific 
kind of bitch that won't even 

482
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,600
show up. 
Or when she does show up, she's 

483
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,960
drunk or she sucked that guy's 
Dick, sucked that guy's Dick. 

484
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,840
And I'm supposed that's what I'm
supposed to do. 

485
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,000
If I'm half as ratchet as you 
think I am, I'm not going 

486
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,080
anywhere. 
You know what I mean? 

487
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,600
Like like like Bonnie Blue for 
instance. 

488
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,960
Have you ever seen a black girl 
in porn do half of half of that?

489
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,520
If we got 1/4 of that doing that
kind of shit, they would we be 

490
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,440
kicked out tomorrow. 
So we have to deal with more. 

491
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,200
We have to deal with more from 
this, more from that and the 

492
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,120
other and we get less 
recognition all around. 

493
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,440
It makes again, zero sense. 
No. 

494
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,080
So I want people to understand 
the lot could be said. 

495
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,440
And I just want people to take 
note that just Juneteenth in 

496
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,760
general, you know, whether you 
know the true history about it. 

497
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,680
At the end of the day, I want 
people to start supporting their

498
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,400
black performers. 
You hear the strife. 

499
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,000
Now it's your turn to maybe call
out some of these foreign 

500
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,760
companies. 
Maybe it's your turn to you, you

501
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,720
know, start reaching out to 
these black creatives and not 

502
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,800
just saying, oh, you know, you 
want to fuck me. 

503
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,080
No, be on some real shit. 
Be on some real shit. 

504
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,200
If you want to collaborate with 
some of these artists, come 

505
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,240
professionally, you know, bring 
a resume, talk to them, interact

506
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,440
with them on a personal, not a 
personal level, but on a 

507
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,000
professional level. 
You know, at the end of the day,

508
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,120
Anna does more than just, you 
know, the erotic stuff. 

509
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,960
She has done a lot of mainstream
work as well. 

510
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:46,840
And some of these artists want 
to break into the mainstream, 

511
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,000
but there's still that stigma. 
So we shouldn't let stigma, you 

512
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,680
know, affect what is being 
affected right now, which is, 

513
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,960
you know, black dollars let 
this, you know, drop that 

514
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,600
stigma. 
Support them. 

515
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,200
Anna, do you have any final 
thoughts? 

516
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,520
I just think that there's always
room to do better. 

517
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,400
You know, I, I like, I hate 
talking negatively about the 

518
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,080
industry that I love so dearly, 
but it's, it's because it 

519
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,880
continuously happens like year 
after year after year. 

520
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,520
I do get tired. 
I am tired of saying it. 

521
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,600
It's because nothing, nothing 
changes. 

522
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,880
Like if you're going to reach 
out to me to support your brand,

523
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,880
at least get my numbers right. 
I have 300 million viewers on 

524
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,240
your platform and you guys don't
want to invite me to the show. 

525
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,360
That's fine, You know what I 
mean. 

526
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:30,120
But like, what message are you 
sending? 

527
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,680
So why would I want to do 
anything if if this is a good 

528
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,680
accolade and it still doesn't 
get me shit, why would I want to

529
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,120
put any more effort into it? 
You know what I mean? 

530
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,160
So like we have room to grow and
we are a community. 

531
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:47,040
So if you don't, if you don't 
listen to the black women and 

532
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,920
what we've been saying, what we 
have to say, then you really 

533
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,840
don't care about the whole 
industry as a whole. 

534
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,000
And that's a shame because it is
a whole family. 

535
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,680
It's a whole community it. 
Really is. 

536
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,400
It really is, yeah. 
And it's a community that I love

537
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,240
and so. 
Yeah, I love you. 

538
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,280
Thank you for signing up for 
this. 

539
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,280
I know this is not easy and I 
just. 

540
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,160
Really like for me. 
I love you, you know, just thank

541
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,000
you for reaching out and 
supporting. 

542
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,640
Yes, thank you, thank you, thank
you. 

543
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,760
Love this girl and you guys can 
follow me at Miz Radio Sapphire 

544
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:25,080
at MSRADIOSEPPHIRE. 
Remember the safe sex is the 

545
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,960
best hot sex. 
Till next time, good night. 

546
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,120
That was the show. 
All you sexy motherfuckers out 

547
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,960
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548
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,160
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549
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