1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,560 Warning, the following program is not for the weak hearted, 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,800 those who are close minded or in general you're scared to learn 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,680 what's behind closed doors. Here at Sapphires Airplay. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,800 I want you to pour the wine, grab somebody that you want to 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,880 hold onto, or better yet, get the vibration stimulated through 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,920 your body. Get ready for one hell of an 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:26,480 orgasm in 5432. One what is up all you sexy 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:27,920 motherfuckers out there, Radioland? 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,280 It's your girl Sapphire. Married. 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,680 I guess I like, do I have to say I'm Mrs. Sapphire now? 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,960 Like. I'm not Sapphire, so I don't 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,920 know if Mrs. Sapphire. Right, right. 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,080 It's. Sapphire Lorivier. 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,120 That sounds weird. Wow, you're putting off the 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,440 government name like that? I go by my government. 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,960 That's true. You do you do what up everybody? 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,960 If you're wondering who this handsome devil of a mayonnaise, 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,760 if you've been living under a rock, never seen this show and 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,280 you've never seen the show, you know, after the nine years we've 20 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,280 been together, yes, he has appeared numerous times on my 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:01,680 show. My. 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,480 First appearance was like 2 years in now. 23 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,240 Yeah. Only seven years on Airplay. 24 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,120 OK, OK, so seven years on Airplay. 25 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,560 We've been together for nine years and we just got married, 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,480 as you guys know. And you know, we wanted to give 27 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:15,800 you guys something a little special. 28 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,360 It's a little delayed, I know you know, but your girl was on 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,120 her honeymoon mode. I should be showing off the 30 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,240 ring. Like you keep waving. 31 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,000 I keep waving my hand. I'm I'm so not used to this. 32 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,440 So I'm like getting still used to the having a ring, a ring. 33 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,160 You've only had a ring for two years. 34 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,560 I know, but like now I got like the ring. 35 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,000 Ring. What about you? 36 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,920 You got the ring too. Where's your ring? 37 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,160 I'm a. Man, we don't do this a lot. 38 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,480 Not frequently. I'm sorry, now you did I know. 39 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:47,280 Because you you requested it. Well, you're probably wondering 40 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,120 what the hell are y'all doing on here? 41 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,240 I know that I was teasing about Horny for Horror. 42 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,480 I believe the episode that I teased it on was on the Lori 43 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:00,640 Beth episode and I could not for the life of me say Horny for 44 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Sinners versus From Dusk Till Dawn. 45 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,600 I could not for the life of me remember From Dusk Till Dawn, 46 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,640 and that's kind of like you. Forgot the words. 47 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,680 I really did. I really did. 48 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,880 I really did. So I hadn't, you know, I had to 49 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,200 get my husband on this. We did a back-to-back night of 50 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,040 Sinners from Dust till dawn because Ben has never seen the 51 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,280 movie. Because we watch sinners first 52 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,880 and everyone makes the comments. So I was like, I've never seen 53 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,240 this. I had seen From Dusk Till Dawn 54 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,120 and for a while it was a cool movie. 55 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,080 Then another movie called Kill Bill came along and that kind of 56 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,480 replaced my love of Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez. 57 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,160 Robert Rodriguez did direct this movie. 58 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,440 He did not direct. He did not. 59 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,120 Tarantino did not direct this. A lot of people try to get this 60 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,240 shifted. They say that Tarantino was the 61 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,560 one who directed it and also started it. 62 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,520 No, Tarantino produced it and starred in it. 63 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,120 Robert Rodriguez, also known for Spy Kids, Machete, all those fun 64 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,120 grindhouse horror. Yeah. 65 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,080 Did he do wait? Did he have anything to do with 66 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,280 Kill Bill? I don't think he had anything to 67 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,960 do with Kill Bill. I'm just saying in general. 68 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,360 How you were talking about how it like it replaced your like 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,760 took the first place above. Yeah, because, like, for a 70 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,400 while, Yeah. Because when I started watching 71 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:29,560 Tarantino movies, I would think I was only like 1314 when Kill 72 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,520 Bill came out. And the first time I saw it, I 73 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,720 was just like, Oh my God. And I remember seeing From Dusk 74 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,880 Till Dawn in pieces and liking it. 75 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,840 And then I saw them full again and I was like, oh, it's still a 76 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,920 good movie, but Kill Bill is still my number one so far. 77 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:54,760 Beyond that, Ben and I, we love sinners, and we love we love 78 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,960 sinners. Like the soundtrack, the 79 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,360 writing, A. Near perfect. 80 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,960 Movie. Oh my God, it really is a near 81 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,480 perfect movie. But what can't we stand Baba? 82 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,240 What can't we stand, Baba? Comparisons. 83 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:12,320 The fact that people are saying that sinners is like a direct 84 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,120 RIP off. Yeah, people keep saying it's a 85 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,120 RIP off of Dusk Till Dawn, and so now that I've seen From Dusk 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,680 till Dawn all the way through, I can actually comment on this And 87 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,520 what the That's not true at all. You know you can cuss on 88 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,400 Sapphire's airplane. It was just I don't want to 89 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,440 miss. I don't want to miss represent 90 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,200 the point I'm making by swearing. 91 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,960 Instead of making a point I don't know, I always say just 92 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,480 like when in doubt, swear it out. 93 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,600 I really do. And you'll probably wonder where 94 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,880 we're filming. This is our new home, so you 95 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,960 might be seeing a lot more of this depending upon who comes 96 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:45,800 over. It's a bookshelf. 97 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,320 A vinyl show. It's a vinyl show. 98 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,920 Come on now it. Is vinyl in it now? 99 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,200 It is. It is. 100 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,520 So anyways, yes, Ben and I love sinners from start from 101 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,880 beginning to the end. And it's funny because Bane is 102 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,080 not a horror guy. He he will swear it. 103 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,280 No, no, you're not. You're not. 104 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:07,760 I'm the queen of horror. I'm the queen of horror. 105 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:08,920 You guys know this two different. 106 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,040 Approaches to horror. And one of them is the same way 107 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,880 it is to any art. If you it's not good, you don't 108 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,280 consume it. That's me. 109 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,800 If the horror film isn't going to be good, I don't want to 110 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,560 watch. It this is where I would put 111 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,480 lay. All. 112 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,320 Horror. Yes. 113 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:29,320 Layers of bad, bad, layers of garbage and and the good ones. 114 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,560 Layers of garbage. Things I have seen you watch. 115 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,960 You barely see me watch because you can't even stand being in 116 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,720 the room, I said. At that, the minute a head 117 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,400 explodes. Table and made your wedding 118 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,520 dress and watched you watch. Absolute garbage. 119 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Y'all I just I consume more because you know what it's my 120 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,480 comfort. Some people like to say that 121 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,400 Disney movies are a comfort or ROM cons No, I need to see blood 122 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,680 splatter. I need to see heads exploding. 123 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,000 I need to see booties bursting, Dicks being decapitated. 124 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:04,800 Dicks being decapitated, wow. Sorry, I'm sorry. 125 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:10,720 Chopped off, circumcised, full circumcision, you know, just cut 126 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,560 that shit off. Not yours though. 127 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,560 I need yours. I need babies still. 128 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:16,880 I need babies. That's. 129 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,320 The only reason you keep me? The only reason why I'm keeping 130 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,920 you around that insurance, health insurance because you we 131 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,280 shits expensive. Y'all in America. 132 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,880 That's the horror show right now. 133 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,320 But yes, so Ben's layer of horror and my layer of horror 134 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,840 are two different spectrums. And why are we married? 135 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,080 I don't know. Maybe because we're just really 136 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,760 good at other things sounds like. 137 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:47,320 There are other things. But you know, yeah, it just does 138 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,520 break my heart when you don't want to take part in my 139 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,640 bloodbathory. Not scary. 140 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,360 It's just gross. Some, some can be scary, some 141 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,520 can be scary. So I was yes, it can be both. 142 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,600 It can be both. But I don't find it scary. 143 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,720 So going back to Sinners, when the first trailer for Sinners 144 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,720 came out, I was already sold. I was like vampires. 145 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,280 Well, first I was like Ryan Coogler. 146 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,080 Check. Black, check. 147 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,240 Black, black, check, check, check. 148 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,160 Oh, it's adult vampires. Definitely didn't see that 149 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,840 coming from the Billboard. Triple check, triple check. 150 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,680 And that's what I loved about it is that if you did not see, you 151 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,640 know, any trailers, if you didn't see any footage besides 152 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:33,000 the, you know, the standstill, that little stand alone poster 153 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,520 and it's literally them in the sunset, you don't know what the 154 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,480 hell this movie was going to be. Yeah, good branding, looks cool. 155 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,960 Looks great you. Can tell it's a period piece. 156 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,720 You can tell it's got Michael B Jordan in it. 157 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,400 You can. You can get a, you can tell. 158 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,200 You can tell that Quinton Tarantino and George Clooney 159 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,000 were in From Dust Still Dawn. What? 160 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,520 Well, you probably never see the poster, I know, but you were 161 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,400 just saying, you know, you could tell that Michael B Jordan you. 162 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,640 Know my point being that like the the Billboard for sinners 163 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,600 got you immediately. I don't know what the Billboard 164 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,800 for dust till dawn. The Billboard for Dust Till 165 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,320 Dawn. If I remember correctly, it was 166 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,200 in like, orange and black writing. 167 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,960 It's Tarantino, George Clooney on the cover. 168 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,080 I don't think you see any vampires in the back. 169 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,440 It looks very grindhousy. Yeah, it looks very grindhousy. 170 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:19,600 OK. So you OK? 171 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:20,840 So I'm going to jump immediately into that. 172 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,560 First, go ahead. Because you were about to 173 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,120 comment about how, like looking at the billboards for sinners, 174 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,040 you wouldn't know it's about vampires. 175 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,120 But when the movie starts, you know it's a horror film right 176 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,280 off the bat. It opens in a way like 177 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,559 undeniably a horror film. Spoilers. 178 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,159 Did you? Are you going to put up a 179 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:43,000 spoiler? I guess we might have to put 180 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,840 some spoil. We are going to spoil this both. 181 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,080 Of these films. So if you've never seen these 182 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,400 films and I'll put it in the beginning. 183 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,960 But right. Now like please stop this right 184 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,160 now and then come back. Spend the next. 4 hours of your 185 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,720 life. Watching those movies and. 186 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,000 Then and then come right back. Come right back here. 187 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,040 So I was actually pulling the front desk Till Dawn poster. 188 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,880 But we're not. It doesn't even matter at. 189 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,440 This point you, you know immediately, yeah, that Sinners 190 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,760 is a horror film. You don't necessarily know what 191 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:15,880 the horror is, but you know from from jump the vibe just Till 192 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,160 Dawn's intention is to trick you. 193 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:20,360 It is. Supposed to surprise you. 194 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,320 It feels like an indie. Like a violent indie crime 195 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,440 store. Like a typical, I mean it, let's 196 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,320 let's take it back 90s Tarantino. 197 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,200 He was all about being very long winded. 198 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,000 If you all know what I'm talking about. 199 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:44,800 The long winded dialogue, it's always like over masculinity. 200 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,880 It's very gritty. It opens up almost like a 201 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,240 spaghetti western. And I only say spaghetti western 202 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,480 because in a modern day take of a spaghetti western because it 203 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,960 does have that kind of grid of is this going to be a cops and 204 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,280 robbers like obviously George Clooney, Tarantinos characters, 205 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,240 their brothers on the run. They get into it with a bunch of 206 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,080 cops and beginning and there are a little layer setting up the 207 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,120 scene and then they venture off to Mexico where you're like. 208 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,360 It's a yeah, it's a, it's a fucking drug running murder. 209 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,680 It's a, it feels like a Tarantino film. 210 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:23,360 It doesn't feel like a genre. No, it just feels like another 211 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,280 Tarantino film. And let's. 212 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,560 Well, before Tarantino films were Tarantino films, yeah. 213 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:29,240 Yeah. I mean, it's it's, you know, 214 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,320 Tarantino had like a couple under his belt at the time and 215 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,360 then this. And so this is kind of like a 216 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,320 different Tarantino Robert Rodriguez film all together. 217 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:41,080 I believe this is Robert Rodrick as his first film as a director. 218 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,040 So there's a lot. It's not a perfect film, but 219 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,880 what movie is nowadays I have no idea. 220 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,360 But I know that hit Tarantino and him are beefing. 221 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,240 So right now, yeah, Tarantino talks some shit, saying 222 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,640 basically George Clooney hasn't been an actor in like 1015 223 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,280 years, completely forgetting that he owned and dominated the 224 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:08,360 2000s of the the ROM cons and the action movies and all that. 225 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,600 Also like. I put some respect when it's 226 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,320 due. Name off top of my head. 227 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,760 At least 4 movies in the last 15 years that George Clooney 228 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,440 schooled in. There you go. 229 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,840 The descendants. Great movie. 230 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,200 And now I've been 13 years no. It's not 1515. 231 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:23,920 Yeah. Yeah. 232 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,280 So anyways, so breaking down the films, you know, in the 233 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,000 beginning, it's like, yes, From dusk Till dawn. 234 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,480 The plot starts as two bank robbers on the run. 235 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,400 They take a family hostage across the border, end up at a 236 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,520 topless bar. The problem is the bar is 237 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,440 infested with vampire fires, which we didn't know until the 238 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,000 midpoint, the big reveal. It's a big, it's a big red 239 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,080 herring. It's a big turn. 240 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,840 Yeah, and then they have to find their way out. 241 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,760 Now, Sinners. Brief description to former 242 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,120 criminals, cousins, brothers, whatever you want to call them. 243 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,080 Y'all know what I'm talking about. 244 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,000 If you've seen the movie, if you didn't, please stop this and 245 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,360 don't ruin it for yourself. Don't, don't, don't do it to 246 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,360 yourself. OK? 247 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,200 So again, drawing inspiration. The two criminals, they want to 248 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:13,960 start a new life in 1930s and this is in Oh my God, where am I 249 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,280 thinking? It's in the Mississippi Delta 250 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,400 during Jim Crow's 1930s. So that's setting the tone 251 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,080 already. All right, it's all just some 252 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,120 scary shit. But yes, two brothers on the 253 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,200 run. They want to open up and start a 254 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,440 new life for themselves and they start up to open a sugar shack. 255 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,360 OK, now what happens with the sugar shack or Juke joint? 256 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,680 Juke joint, sugar shacks. They're both the same stuff. 257 00:12:36,680 --> 00:12:40,640 Looking at my notes, so cute. You picked horror and and a 258 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,440 vampire and a vampire turns a vampire. 259 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,240 It turns other vampires. Vampire turns another vampires 260 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,080 into more. It's just a bloodbath of 261 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,760 vampires. It goes from being this, OK, 262 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,480 where's the horror elements? Then the big reveal is there is 263 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,880 a vampire with a bit of history, a bit of lore. 264 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,360 This is where I have. Sent around plot points that we 265 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,720 are absolutely going to have to spoil. 266 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,960 We will have to. Compare them. 267 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:07,400 We will. We will. 268 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,600 But again, some people try to question it. 269 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,360 Is it a horror movie or is it a suspenseful movie? 270 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,320 It doesn't matter. It has the lore, it has the 271 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:20,040 scary, it has the horrific tones of 1930s Jim Crow South. 272 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,480 Just because something here's the thing about horror films 273 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,960 that I think that you and I can follow on different. 274 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,680 This is my stance, and I think you come at my favorite horror 275 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:31,400 films in this because you like, you're like, it's not scary. 276 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:32,720 It's a thriller. It's not scary. 277 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,640 It's it's like suspenseful. OK. 278 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,360 Just because you aren't scared doesn't mean the movie's not a 279 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,360 horror film. It absolutely. 280 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:46,520 Intended to scare people, frankly, especially in 2025. 281 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,960 People are fucking jaded. So just because it doesn't scare 282 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,920 you? One of my closest friends, I was 283 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,440 talking about how Nosferatu was one of the most scariest movies 284 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,760 to me in recent years and his response was that movie's not 285 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,840 scary. I was like I'm so sorry what the 286 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,400 fuck are you talking about? OK, I will agree Nosferatu 287 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,960 wasn't scary for me, but as far as gothic horror goes, it's a 288 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,720 brilliant film, just like Del Toro's Frankenstein. 289 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,400 Again, gothic horror, still great I. 290 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:20,280 Do think Nosferatu is a horror film and and and Del Toro's 291 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,600 Frankenstein is a fairy tale? Uh oh, we might need to have a 292 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,040 horny for horror part 4. We'll do it. 293 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,040 We might have to do this if y'all want it. 294 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,320 Gothic horny. We could talk. 295 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,880 We could talk about. The Point V Knock. 296 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,560 In those Fratsu, yeah. And that God awful Bram 297 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,960 Stroker's Dracula from 1992. We could absolutely throw that 298 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,200 shit in, yeah. Absolutely. 299 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,600 So anyways, we're going. These vampires. 300 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:47,320 These vampires. So again, the representation of 301 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,320 sex is heavily based on both of these films. 302 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,160 So I'm not talking about positive news. 303 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,520 I'm not talking about sex positive. 304 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,320 News, sinners, sinners is. Hold up, all right, ease your 305 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,000 way into it. Lubit sexual representation when 306 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,800 it comes to sex in both of these movies because you know this is 307 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,320 horny for horror and of course your girl has to break down 308 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,400 these sexuality themes and all that. 309 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,160 Both films represent sex very very very very very differently. 310 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,960 One movie completely degrades women. 311 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,680 It is a misogynistic sake on Lisbon then the other film 312 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,040 however you want to take it. Some people are the Internet are 313 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,560 saying that Ryan Coogler had to insert the fact that pussy 314 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,440 eating is five times in the movie. 315 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,960 Yes, cooter eating, eating that coochie 5 times mentioned in the 316 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:44,080 film as a black man, as a black person watching this. 317 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,160 Believe it or not, oral sex, especially kind of Lingus in the 318 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,360 black community is still very much a taboo. 319 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,280 It's always please the man, never really pleasing about the 320 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,280 woman. So to see a black man, a black 321 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,320 director, make it a point to mention kind of Lingus in so 322 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,680 many various ways. And also painting it with a 323 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:12,280 very, very quotable line from Haley Stanfield, Stanfield's 324 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,000 character, Steinfeld's character, Sorry, girl, who 325 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,400 plays a biracial woman. I got to say the way sex is 326 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,160 represented in this, I know I spit out my my popcorn and my 327 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,760 drink when we heard I heard you. I heard you loud and clear, but 328 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,440 then you suck your tongue in my Coos and fuck me so hard. 329 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,000 I figured you could you change your mind. 330 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,160 What are you talking about cooter in this in the 1930s, you 331 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,680 know your grandmama was probably put crutching her purse but at 332 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:48,240 the same time she was like oh I remember those days being at a 333 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,760 Juke joint getting my pussy eating in the back of a club. 334 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,600 Spoiler alert. There's a whole spoilers. 335 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,080 There's just a lot. There's the way, again, sex in 336 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,800 both films is being represented. It's on totally different 337 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,480 spectrums. So again, remember, like I said 338 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,240 five times, cunnilingus is mentioned in Sinners. 339 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Now, when it comes to talking about sex and From Dusk Till 340 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:18,319 Dawn, I mean, first of all, you have Tarantino's character. 341 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:21,920 He is a pedophile. He is a rapist. 342 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,240 He is a murderer. He is a bank robber. 343 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,319 And we're supposed to feel sympathy for him? 344 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:29,240 In some way or another, we're supposed to feel sympathy for 345 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,560 both of these brothers, right? No, they're very they're not 346 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,560 likable at all. You're not supposed to like them 347 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,080 like they are not the heroes of the story, though. 348 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,760 People try to say like, oh, but they're the main. 349 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,560 No, no, no, no, no. They're toss aways. 350 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,040 They're big names. They're big name characters, but 351 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,120 we're not rooting for that. Big names, then, yeah. 352 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:57,480 OK, yeah, OK George Clooney was, you know, still on his ER kick. 353 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:58,640 Oh, it was the same. Yeah. 354 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,520 It's around the same time of ER. And again, Tarantino has already 355 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,440 gotten his notoriety from Pulp Fiction. 356 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,800 Robert Rodriguez steps in as a new director. 357 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:07,880 These. Were after those. 358 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,200 Yes, yes. So it's a very interesting time 359 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,240 of the 90s. But it's yeah, it's very like 360 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,400 they're not like they're, they're written as like gross 361 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:22,400 arc, like gross stereotypes of like criminal men that like kind 362 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,760 of suck, but they like they expect you or maybe not to 363 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,920 actually like them. Whereas the two brothers in 364 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,480 sinners are. Smoking stack. 365 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,160 They they are sinners. Sin is a big concept of it, but 366 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,840 at the same but at the same time like they're, they're well 367 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,360 fleshed out, they're three-dimensional. 368 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:43,600 They've got very clear motivations outside of just the 369 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,480 plot. They build relationships 370 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,880 differently, they're likable, they're admirable, and you want 371 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,200 to root for them. Not to mention, again, how often 372 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,720 are we able to see black representation on a on screen 373 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,360 where they're not portrayed as necessarily thugs? 374 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,760 Yes. Did they run the mill of Chicago 375 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,320 in the said story? Yes. 376 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,080 But the focus is not them being gangsters. 377 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,560 The focus is to black men trying to make something for themselves 378 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,360 and for them. It's making this juicy joint 379 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:18,240 happening. It also addresses the fact that 380 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,360 like that was like crime and like the the gangs and 381 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:23,760 everything was the only option available. 382 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,680 Exactly this. Is this is their attempt to 383 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,720 like? Redeem themselves. 384 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,360 Start. It's a clean slate for 385 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:32,840 everybody. Everybody in that film, in 386 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,440 Sinners one way or another, was seeking a way out of something. 387 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,320 Yeah, Dusk Till Dawn is about to. 388 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,080 They're they're on the run because they fucked up in 389 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,480 Sinners. They're trying to get a new 390 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:44,320 start. Right. 391 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,320 So going back on the sexual representation scale, so from 392 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,880 Dusk till Dawn, the first half of the film establishes a 393 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,480 traditional, often misogynistic environment. 394 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,600 Graphical sexual references, a strip club setting, frequent 395 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,480 topless nudity. I mean, it's the 90s. 396 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:05,720 We all love the little bustier boobies just out of nowhere. 397 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,560 But on top of that, Richie Gekko, that is Tarantino's 398 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,640 character. As I said, he has like these 399 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,400 delusions towards. I believe in the movie Juliette 400 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,400 Lewis is supposed to be anywhere between 14 and 16. 401 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,920 So again, a child. A child so and already you know, 402 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,160 people who know Tarantino, we all know he's got a little creep 403 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,360 factor. We all know about his foot 404 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:34,200 fetishing. But rewatching this movie, it's 405 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,000 very fucking obvious. But rewatching this movie again, 406 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,800 for me personally until I rewatched this with Benjamin, it 407 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,960 had been like 20 years since I've seen this movie. 408 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:51,560 I didn't realize how disgusting Tarantino's character is. 409 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:56,880 And to be honest, some of the quotes, I don't think this movie 410 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,040 would fly. It would not fly in 2020. 411 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,960 And I know that they did have to water down a lot of context when 412 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,760 Spike TV at the time took over and made the TV show. 413 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,720 I know there were some vast differences on that. 414 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,360 It's an. Interesting thing that one 415 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:13,720 comparison that I hadn't thought about yet. 416 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,160 They both have lines that are meant to shock you. 417 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,160 Yeah, but. In Sinners, when the line you 418 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,920 put earlier, when Hailee Steinfeld's character Mary says 419 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:30,240 that, it shocks you in a way that you go, yeah, and all the 420 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,240 lines that are meant to shock you in. 421 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,640 From Dus to dawn. Make you go. 422 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,640 It was very uncomfortable. It's intended to make you. 423 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,040 It's intended to make you uncomfortable and not be fun or 424 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,000 good. Not at all. 425 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,080 And. Make you feel gross. 426 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,000 And then, of course, you know, there's the hilarious elements. 427 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,720 Everybody knows about the sex machine. 428 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,080 If you don't know who I'm talking about, I'm talking about 429 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:58,240 Tom Savini character in from Dusseldon Wild makeup artist 430 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,920 extraordinaire. Okay, this man has just perfect 431 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,080 like honestly, I love Tom Savini as a makeup artist and even as 432 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,280 sex machine he's a great character he's fun he's less 433 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,360 disgusting compared to everybody else. 434 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,920 But at the same time, I mean what's quoted is sex machines 435 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,480 gun literally is his cock. That was the. 436 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,240 Point where I had where I was like, wait, hold on, what the 437 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,360 fuck is this movie? Because it it is again. 438 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:28,400 It's supposed to be that moment. Like they OK can are we still in 439 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,560 the intro? No, we're we're going into the, 440 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,080 the sexual elements of the show, of the movies. 441 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,000 You want to talk? OK. 442 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,000 Yeah, I mean, again, we're talking about the sexual 443 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,800 elements of the movie. So again, this gun, it's clearly 444 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,640 his cock. I mean, not really. 445 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,520 It's a it's a gun shaped like his. 446 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,840 It's. Like a wild Wild West bullshit 447 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,280 thing where like his COD piece flips out a revolver. 448 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,600 And it shapes like a guy, like a Dick. 449 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,160 With it. Yes, he can shoot with it. 450 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,960 This went from being I'm going to talk from this. 451 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,640 Sort of go. Ahead, this went from being like 452 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,040 a a gritty and upsetting and unsettling but at least like 453 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:13,600 kind of tense like crime noir, like pseudo like super low 454 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,800 budget indie like crime noir to suddenly you're in the strip 455 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,840 club you could talk about. The twitty, the titty twister 456 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,720 that is the name of I could talk about. 457 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,920 Yes, I am going to talk about Teach Mary. 458 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,600 The cameos start showing up and suddenly, like that was the 459 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,600 first thing that made me go. What the Wait, what? 460 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,640 Because it's all intended to trick you. 461 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,120 It's not supposed to be like it doesn't set a tone. 462 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:43,760 It's all a gag. Which is wildly different from 463 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,280 Sinners. That early on tells you the kind 464 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,160 of movie this is. Going that is going to be it. 465 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,320 And then it's the slow build of tension. 466 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,560 Whereas in Dusk Till Dawn they're like, yeah, yeah, this 467 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,160 is going to be a gritty noir. And then suddenly there's a man 468 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,080 who has a gun penis codpiece that he fires with pelvic 469 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,480 thrusts, not with his hands, no. And suddenly you're like, this 470 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,800 isn't the tone at all that you told me this was going to be. 471 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,360 This is not the same type of movie. 472 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:13,920 These are almost two different films. 473 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,880 Very, very much. Two different films. 474 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,800 And again, Cheech Marin's character chat pussy, you know, 475 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,400 he has the infamous line when everybody's walking in to the 476 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,640 titty twister and it's a long line, but he's like, come on. 477 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,040 All right, pussy, pussy, pussy. Come on, pussy lovers. 478 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,880 Here at the titty twister, we're slagging pussy in half. 479 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:39,760 Give us like it's all about Pussy as an auction. 480 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:43,600 Vaginas. Bloody pussy, velvety pussy, 481 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,160 black pussy. He even goes into racism, 482 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,720 calling it yellow pussy, hairy pussy. 483 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,800 Lot of racism, lot of racism. So again, this is not a movie 484 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,920 that's representing and welcoming for women. 485 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,880 This is a movie that was made for little boys, for little 486 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,080 insult boys. No offense to enjoy, feel. 487 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,240 Like that was the target audience. 488 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,040 Yes, like. Yeah, it's and it's and it is a 489 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,320 lot of like the the racism is played for laughs in a way that 490 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,680 like in the 90s, people got away with a lot more. 491 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,760 But you cannot like. It's not right. 492 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,120 Product of its time, but if we were to turn it and flip the 493 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:23,040 script and maybe have a white guy play Cheech Marin's 494 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,960 character. Oh, it would have been. 495 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,800 Probably a lot. It would have been problematic 496 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,080 as fuck. Can you imagine a man in the 90s 497 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,280 or even just now if we were to put dust sold on now and you 498 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:37,240 replace Cheech Marin with one of the top actors right now and we 499 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,120 just flip in and say we're going to make them white. 500 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,920 Can you imagine somebody getting away with it on the script 501 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,640 saying we got yellow pussy, black pussy nap like all day. 502 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,520 We never fly in the in the 20 twenties right now. 503 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,560 It would not fly. It really would not. 504 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,960 It shouldn't fly, but I don't think it would fly. 505 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,520 So again, when I'm being watching this, I'm like, I'm 506 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,720 looking at him like, Oh my God it. 507 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,640 Doesn't fly no matter what. Rate no, no, it just it's 508 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,360 uncomfortable like I get it y'all got pussy, we're in the 509 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,320 titty bar. You got pussy period pussy for 510 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,840 free pussy for a penny. So now we're we, we're devaluing 511 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,920 women. And this is not me saying like 512 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,000 you should never devalue women in movies. 513 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,600 Just maybe have a better contact. 514 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,880 Do it for laughs. I guess yeah, the. 515 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,560 Thing that happens in movies all the time is like people like 516 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,320 there's a people if if you're going to be like we're just 517 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,040 comparing the two films if we're just going to compare the two 518 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,840 films. Dusk Till Dawn spends a stupid 519 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,960 amount of time objectifying women either for laughs or to 520 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,560 like make like an almost exclusively male audience horny, 521 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,640 whereas anytime like anytime women's sexuality is brought up 522 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,360 in. Sinners. 523 00:26:56,360 --> 00:27:00,240 Sinners. It is at at worst just accepted 524 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,640 as a a fact of being human and at best their sexuality is 525 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,360 celebrated. Not to mention the fact that how 526 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:13,160 comfortable men in sinners comes to sex when it comes, not even 527 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,600 just about the physicality of sex. 528 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,520 Again, cunnilingus. I'm I'm gonna just keep you all 529 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,120 focused on the fact that there's such an oral fixation. 530 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:26,640 Is that coincidence because vampires have oral fixations? 531 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,920 The neck biting, could it be that? 532 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,360 Like a monster that transforms you by by way of like it's. 533 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,640 Not it's not. Consumption and etcetera have 534 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,920 like and so much of the sexuality being oral based. 535 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,960 In contrast, Dusk Till Dawn, where the we're gonna get to 536 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,960 this, I'm sure I'm gonna save my point about how it's not 537 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,000 actually a vampire movie. Oh my God. 538 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,480 But the vampires and the sexuality is about foot 539 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,880 fetishes. OK, it's not really exactly 540 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,840 about foot fetish, we'll just get into it. 541 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,000 The infamous parts. About it are about foot. 542 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,240 Infamous scene. Salma Hayek dangling the boa 543 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,880 constrictor, which she was like, utterly afraid of. 544 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,280 Yes, she singles out Tarantino in the movie, does her little 545 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,400 sexy striptease in which she doesn't really strip down, but 546 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,120 she's already in a bikini clad. Yeah, she does a little sexy 547 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:25,200 dance and it's cute. It's sexy. 548 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,440 And then it just gets fucking weird because then it's. 549 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,160 Sexy. It serves 0 plot. 550 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:35,240 Zero plot points other than as Tarantino had said off camera 551 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,920 and in an interview shortly after the movie was released. 552 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,880 I'm the director. I mean, I'm the producer. 553 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,080 I should be the focus. Yes, I'm having her put her foot 554 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,880 in my mouth. OK, cool, Tarantino. 555 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,160 Cool. What's the tough to do with 556 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,880 vampires? Don't know what that has to do 557 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,480 with vampires, but cool daddy you you take the tequila shot. 558 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,000 The tequila foot shot. Not sure what that is about. 559 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,480 It's got nothing it. Contributes. 560 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,760 Nothing. It's just another weird instance 561 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,880 of like his foot fetish in the movie. 562 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,280 And again, here's the thing. Oh, I'm sorry, and I quote, not 563 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,480 producer As Tarantino said, her character was dancing for the 564 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,760 writer. Tarantino. 565 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,640 Literally is saying I wrote this for me. 566 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,600 Yes, yeah, that's not. Not for the general male gaze of 567 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,640 an odd film, which is weird. So again, that's just. 568 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,320 It's weird. Because you have a sex positive 569 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,680 podcast. Can I address this real? 570 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,640 Quick please. Our problem is not with people 571 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,120 who have foot fetish. Absolutely not. 572 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,840 That's totally fine if you have a foot fetish. 573 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,840 The problem is when it's my fetish is not your fetish, your 574 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,800 fetish is not my fetish, and Tarantino forces his foot fetish 575 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,480 on everyone who watches this fucking movie. 576 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,640 And here's where it also gets problematic. 577 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:52,240 So the vampires in From Dusk Till Dawn Easley would say that 578 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,400 the women vampires are in charge because in fact, they are luring 579 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,240 these men into the Titty bar. OK. 580 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,760 And it's all men in this bar. There's no women who are patrons 581 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,320 in this bar. So that's one specific thing 582 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,920 that the women are in charge to kill all these fuckers, all 583 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,040 right, in a misogynistic, weird way, they're trapping them with 584 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,400 their pussies. And then the big reveal is, Oh 585 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,960 my God, these are not real women with real titties. 586 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,920 These are vampires. Oh my God, these are demons. 587 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,960 And that's becomes, is this a vampire movie? 588 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,240 Is this a zombie movie? Or is this just a bloodbath that 589 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:35,400 just happens to have a sprinkle of vampires and the lore behind? 590 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,520 It vampires, but they don't follow any vampire tropes. 591 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,800 No, they follow zombie tropes. Very much. 592 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,280 Well, except for the sun. I mean, the sun part plays a 593 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,480 part in it, Yeah, but but how? These vampires are dying, Yeah. 594 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,360 Like you, they're like they're getting blown up with shotguns 595 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,520 also. And when you are when you are 596 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,400 being overwhelmed by a mob, that's a zombie trope. 597 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,680 Very much. Like when you're like, when 598 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,280 you're boarded up, hunkered down somewhere and trying to like, 599 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,480 trying to like fend off an angry, like a mob of monster of 600 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,040 mindless, no personality monsters with shotguns who are 601 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,840 just might as well be animals with whatever firearms and 602 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,480 weapons you can make. That's a zombie trope. 603 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,360 That's a zombie. Movie. 604 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,320 I never thought my own husband would be saying that's a zombie 605 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,120 trope as much as he hates zombies. 606 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,320 But I know the trope. You do know the tropes, and I'll 607 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,200 give you that on top of that too. 608 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,320 On top of that, when you think about sinners, okay, they use 609 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,880 the vampire trope from jump in the club. 610 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,200 You know, in the club setting, when Remnick and his friends, 611 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:48,400 his band of jolly little people, are coming in, they're asking to 612 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,440 be invited in one. Of the best vampire tropes of 613 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,360 all time is you. They can't come in unless you. 614 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,880 I'm not going to lie, and it's been a while since I've seen a 615 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,560 good vampire movie that has used this trope. 616 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,800 OK? Very much like since Fry Fest. 617 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,680 And we're talking about the newer and not the older I. 618 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,840 Am talking about the Colin Farrell. 619 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,680 One, the Colin Farrell 1 is great, but so is the old one 620 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,640 too. But again, it's not often that 621 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,280 you see these vampire tropes modern day talking about Let me 622 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,720 in. Why you? 623 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,320 The drooling fact, all that is vampires, all of that is 624 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,240 horrifying. Also they use vampire tropes to 625 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,680 to single them out where it is not in the. 626 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,480 I don't even think they even bother. 627 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,840 Because they didn't. Really turn you as soon as you 628 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,640 get bitten you're transformed into a vampire in dusk till dawn 629 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,320 and that looks that's the same thing as zombies you're like 630 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,720 well how do we know well. On top of that, on top of that, 631 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,960 there's this whole Eroticism to repulsion on from dust sold on. 632 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,800 It's we are fantasizing the land of pussy. 633 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,840 Okay, all these beautiful women at my own disposal and then all 634 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,640 of a sudden the minute they turn into these monsters, I'm no 635 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,320 longer attractive. I'm fearing for my fucking life. 636 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,120 Fuck these bitches, I'm out. That's really what this shit is 637 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,600 all about. Zombie versus vampire trope 638 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,160 because how does it go down in sinners? 639 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,440 Sinners with this When it comes to the change, there is a 640 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,400 moment, there's a death, there's a realization that someone's not 641 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,280 moving. He's got bit. 642 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,560 Why are you asking me to come in? 643 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:29,080 It's also like it's the the it's the subtlety in zombie zombies. 644 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,320 You get overwhelmed, you get if you're you get attacked by brute 645 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,080 force and you get turned and in and that's all of the people who 646 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,960 get turned in Dusk till Dawn, all of them. 647 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,360 It's like they get overwhelmed, they lose the fight, etcetera. 648 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,760 And in Sinners, it's the vampire trope of seduction, even if it's 649 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,120 not like the hot goth sexy vampire seduction of Interview 650 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,880 with a Vampire or Dracula. But it is very much. 651 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,480 Or the sparkly seduction. To engage you they're trying to 652 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:01,360 entice you to come and like and none of our characters fall for 653 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,240 it because it's not the same type of genre, right It's or not 654 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,120 the not the same type of vampires and it's. 655 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:11,679 I think one of my favorite. It's not a romance, but it is 656 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,920 that moment where they like it's all they try to coerce you. 657 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,679 They don't try to take you by force. 658 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,800 Like the perfect scene. The perfect scene is where 659 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,560 Cornbread is begging to be let back in. 660 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,639 Now mind you, Cornbread, he is the bouncer of the club. 661 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:32,600 And so the fact that he's asking Smoke, yeah, he's asking Smoke. 662 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,760 The bouncer's asking Smoke, 1/2 of the club's owner to be let 663 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:38,800 back in. He's like, what you talking 664 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,199 about? You just said you had to go to 665 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:41,040 the bathroom. Yeah. 666 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,960 Why can't you let yourself in, Ryan? 667 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,560 Coogler took and again, talking about like tropes, but that's 668 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,760 what makes up monster movies. That's what makes up monster 669 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,280 stories is you. Your monster is bound by the 670 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,520 tropes, and if you don't play by the tropes, you're not playing 671 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,159 the same monster. That's why people in Twilight 672 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:56,120 aren't vampires. Not to mention the constant like 673 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:02,160 the continuity of this ever so like the lore with Remic being 674 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,040 from Ireland. OK Remic sorry messing up on all 675 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,200 the characters. Remic's character being from 676 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,600 Ireland. And this adds on to what Ryan 677 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,080 Coogler said of where he was drawing inspiration. 678 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,840 Yes he drew inspiration and did say he had inspired was inspired 679 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,840 by From Dusk Till Dawn and other vampire movies. 680 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,720 Irish. Things in from dusk till. 681 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,520 Dawn No, I'm just saying. But when I talk about the Irish 682 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,480 beginnings and the lore, it's it's. 683 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,440 Genre when you make a genre. Hold on, Baber, let me finish. 684 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,400 So as I was trying to say, you have Ryan Coogler, who says, 685 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,120 well, also one of my inspirations was Luck of the 686 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,000 Irish. And then you're looking at the 687 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,720 Irish lore that is put in with the vampire and blackness of 688 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:50,040 this movie. It's a whole different movie 689 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,000 within itself. But again, it's about culture, 690 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,320 it's about family, it's about togetherness, and that's all 691 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,040 Remick wanted to do. He wanted to just make a new 692 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,040 family. Now, whether or not you want to 693 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,680 say, is Remnick technically like the white devil? 694 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,600 Probably not. I think the man probably has 695 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,200 some good intentions. I asked the white person. 696 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,240 Don't think that. I think, I don't know the white 697 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,800 devil. I don't think he was the white. 698 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,320 Like he might have been the white devil, but I was kind of 699 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,480 like feeling, hey, I would be part of your vampire clan. 700 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,040 His goals were. Ultimately selfish. 701 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,920 Yes, his goals were selfish, but then when you think about it, 702 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:33,480 1930s, a white Irishman is willingly trying to get in and 703 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,240 find a way in with a black community. 704 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,640 That's odd 'cause you think, OK, if a white man in the 1930s is 705 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,040 stepping up into a Juke joint with two other white people, 706 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,040 shit's about to go down. It's the Klan. 707 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,960 No, he heard good music, he said. 708 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,040 This reminds me of my, of my Irish, you know, folklore and my 709 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,360 background. I want to spread my love with 710 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,400 them, so why can't I? And Ben's looking at me like, 711 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,440 really? Really. 712 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,480 That's what he keeps saying. He keeps saying I'm just 713 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:08,520 convinced, OK, I didn't see any harm with my Nick, other than 714 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,960 the fact that you're killing my people. 715 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,680 That's it. That's it. 716 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,000 That's a pretty big heart. He killed my people for 717 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,320 community. Selfish. 718 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,720 I'm gonna get cancelled for this. 719 00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:19,720 A lot of people. I'm gonna get cancelled. 720 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,320 I'm gonna get cancelled for this. 721 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,560 OK, OK, I'm gonna draw it over. Here I'm going to get cancelled. 722 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:30,080 Comparisons between the two The vampire archetype Yes, you need 723 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,760 a vampire. You need someone, one of them 724 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,000 who has a personality, who has no not charisma, but who has 725 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,520 power and who's leading it. And the whole infection of 726 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,120 everyone else getting turned. If they get turned, depending on 727 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,280 the vampire movie, they're they're being turned by the the 728 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,120 villain, by the antagonist, by the archetypal vampire, which 729 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,800 From Dusk Till Dawn does not have. 730 00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,320 There's no leader, there's no main vampire, There's just a 731 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,440 mob. Well, people will argue and say 732 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,800 that maybe Salma Hayek was the main vampire, but again. 733 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,760 Spoilers she gets killed immediately like she. 734 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,440 Doesn't have a personality. She has no personality body. 735 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,480 And that's a sexy dance. And she feeds Tarantino's 736 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,680 fetish, and then they kill her. Yeah, that's. 737 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,480 Her her whole troll. That's not yeah, she's not 738 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,280 that's she's not playing the archetypal leader of the 739 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,080 vampire. But again, if you were to pick a 740 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,520 leader out of that group, it would probably be her because 741 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,920 she was the main focal point. If you have to pick, if you have 742 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,120 to, there isn't one, right? There's not, there's no real, 743 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,880 there's no real leader of the pack. 744 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,600 Like Benjamin said, it's just a mob. 745 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,440 And then like we said, Remic and his band of merry thieves or 746 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,400 whatever you want to call him, his followers, they were the bad 747 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,720 guys. But again, was it bad guys or 748 00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:59,520 was it, hey, we're going to break the stereotype? 749 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,160 Absolutely bad. Guy, I'm just saying I didn't 750 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,120 see anything. I did not see anything. 751 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,560 I'm not, I'm not defending that man. 752 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,280 I'm not defending that man. But he heard some good music. 753 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,080 He saw black people having a good time and Jim Crow South and 754 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,320 said well fuck it, fuck it, I need some of this too. 755 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,000 Absolutely. He is the white boy that 756 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,040 everybody was talking about. What are you? 757 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,200 Intentionally leaving out like his whole motivation. 758 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,360 No, OK, no, no. You haven't gotten there yet. 759 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,320 I just hadn't gone there. OK, you're defending him so 760 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,360 hard. You're on this. 761 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,440 You're you're prepared to die on this. 762 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,080 Real weird. I'm not. 763 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,040 I'm not preparing to die. I'm not preparing to die. 764 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:46,640 So again, the agency of sex, sex representation on both spectrums 765 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,640 of these moves are completely different. 766 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,640 So again, are you still with us? Do you think that Sinners and 767 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,120 From Dusk Till Dawn are the same movie? 768 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,920 Because they're not They're not They're not. 769 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:05,360 On top of that, I got to say I love the relationship that Smoke 770 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,200 and Annie had in Sinners. You get a healthy 1. 771 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,960 Healthy, but it also speaks in bigger volumes. 772 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,640 So there was this article that I was reading and the title of the 773 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,320 article was actually sinners tries what we deny on on 774 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,040 desiring. And they're talking about 775 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,960 desiring of a big beautiful full figured black woman whenever we 776 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,880 see a lot of the times black women. 777 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,160 Yeah, very interesting. So again, there's always been 778 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:38,400 this way of what a woman should look like. 779 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,720 You know, a woman should be petite and frail and she is. 780 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:43,680 She has big boobs. She still has to have a small 781 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:49,560 waist In here in centers, we see women of all different shades 782 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,440 and colors. And it makes it a very big 783 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,680 point, even in the very 10 seconds of intimacy that we see 784 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:02,720 between Annie and Stack, even though I mean, Smoke, it's not 785 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,560 like a fuck like Come and take Me, but she's like, it's 786 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,240 passion. They hadn't seen each other a 787 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:10,560 while. There's so much pain and love 788 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,240 that's in their relationship. But to see a skinnier man with a 789 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:18,560 full figured black woman, What? I love you. 790 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,760 I'm not. I don't think Michael Cage. 791 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,680 I don't think Michael B Jordan counts as a skinnier. 792 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,040 Man, not well, you know what I mean? 793 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,720 Like he's not exactly like overweight, but he's also not 794 00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:32,320 underweight. And you see Annie, she is a full 795 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,280 like. No, I follow. 796 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,160 You she's a full BBW and respectfully I think. 797 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:39,600 Michael B Jordan is built like a fucking superhero. 798 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,680 He's a tank. He's built like a tank, but in 799 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,400 this movie he's a little bit more submissive. 800 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,560 He almost submits to her, I think. 801 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,200 I would I would argue that Annie is the only person. 802 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,360 He submits to absolutely because there was just this one part 803 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,760 where you know you see the dynamic of the relationship and 804 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,440 just that the five minute scene, you understand it all. 805 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,280 This woman has been through everything with this man that's. 806 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,120 All of them, yeah. There's not a of the of the 807 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:17,040 three like of the three male leads and their female 808 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,520 counterparts and their dynamics and their relationships. 809 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:25,240 There's not a single moment where the men, there's not a 810 00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:27,640 single moment where the women are submissive to the men. 811 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,080 The men are submissive to the women. 812 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,560 So again, you have any? Not in a like a weird, not not 813 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,080 weird, but like not in a like really obvious like power play 814 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,600 way. Just in a very in a very subtle 815 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,960 like no, we're on equal terms. And I know that you're I know 816 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,000 that you're right. I know that you make your 817 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,920 decisions are our level, whereas it's like and they it's built on 818 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,880 mutual respect. Except I would say that the 819 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,880 women are more the, you know, demeanors in this, especially 820 00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:01,760 when it comes to sex. Annie demeanors like dominance. 821 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,240 Yeah. Dom doms like taking the lead of 822 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,120 handling sex. Annie was talking about my body 823 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,480 missed you. I need you. 824 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,560 And she gets it from him and he's gripping her and touching 825 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,600 her. And you don't see that a lot in 826 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,400 movies when it comes to bigger women with smaller body type 827 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,560 men. And especially you don't see it 828 00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:25,440 with dark skinned black women and lighter skinned black folk. 829 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,000 That's a different topic for another day, but again, I'm 830 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,600 going to put the link to this one article because it is 831 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,920 fascinating how it broke down this one five minute scene into 832 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,000 making a whole narrative of how uncomfortable we are when it 833 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,560 comes to seeing full dark bodied women on screen getting 834 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,360 pleasured. On top of that, now we got Mary 835 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,560 on top of smoke. They're they're fucking in the 836 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,920 back of the the sugar shack. And she spits in his mouth. 837 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,240 Now, would you say that's submissive? 838 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:08,000 And it's almost like Stack was feeding into this, this fetish. 839 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,160 I would say it's. Nasty. 840 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,400 It nasty but we like a little spit play but not just like you 841 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,720 know. Nasty in a. 842 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,320 Fun way. It was nasty in a fun way. 843 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,560 They even comment. It's really funny when they talk 844 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,120 about that one scene. The movie goes, oh, but it's 845 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,480 sexy. It's sexy at the same time. 846 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,040 You you would think it's nasty and then you think about it. 847 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,520 It's like, yeah, I'd spit in his mouth too, girl, I'd spit in his 848 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,920 mouth too. Like I'd spit in his mouth. 849 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,320 We all swap spit. You would spit in his mouth too. 850 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,400 But the way that again you see Mary and Stacks relationship, 851 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,040 Mary is very dominant, she claims. 852 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,360 And he tries. He's so hard. 853 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,080 He like tries to get the other upper hand all the way all the 854 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,800 time and all the time she's just like. 855 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,560 No, no, you ain't the one. And some people even will argue 856 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,560 to say like maybe it was Mary's plan all along. 857 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:04,120 Like she could have turned around and not bit stack and you 858 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,600 know, 'cause this night of debauchery and fuckery. 859 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,200 I don't think that. Wait, who? 860 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,040 Who, who? Where are these theories you're 861 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,800 getting? I'm telling you these. 862 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,280 Don't make any. Actually, some of these do. 863 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,560 Actually, some of these do. Wild. 864 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,240 Because if you think about it, Mary was already married off in 865 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:22,480 an unhealthy relationship. OK, we don't know it was. 866 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,400 An. Unhealthy marriage? 867 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,600 Well, it's kind of wasn't her true, it wasn't her true love. 868 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,480 So we're just going to say there, it's for the for the 869 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,360 plot, for the plot. Clearly Mary's not happy with 870 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,800 her husband. She's always wanted Stack. 871 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,160 But of course, you know, Mary being a little bit more passing. 872 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,800 You don't know what I'm talking about with passing. 873 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,640 Look at the fuck up, OK? Go watch the movie Passing. 874 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:46,600 Go watch the movie passing, it's a great movie. 875 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,640 Conversation about that film. So as Mary's passing in Jim Crow 876 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,360 South and she has a very tumultuous relationship, it 877 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,600 seems like with Stack that they are able to fuck but they can 878 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,880 never really be together and the only time they can actually 879 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,360 really be together is when after they're. 880 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,400 Dead. Is after they're dead. 881 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,880 OK, but but that's what I'm saying. 882 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,440 Some people try to say like maybe it was Mary's plan all 883 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,040 along. She wanted stack. 884 00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:18,960 Now she's got Stack. I'm just saying that's what the 885 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,600 people said, not me. Don't quote it. 886 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,320 Don't quote me. Don't quote me. 887 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,400 Don't quote me. Don't quote me. 888 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,600 I didn't say it. The people said that. 889 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,280 Was the case, it would assume that everyone had the same plan. 890 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,920 Who knows? I don't know I'm. 891 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,160 Pretty sure Cornbread's plan was different. 892 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,080 Cornbread's plan? He was hungry all right. 893 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,200 Mary. She was horn green. 894 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,440 Mary was horn green. You're. 895 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,120 Blaming, like all the victims. No, I'm not blaming, just no, 896 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,400 no, no. Why? 897 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,680 How are you going to get every? This is not the point of this 898 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,520 podcast, but how are you going to get everyone to follow Mary's 899 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,800 plan? I don't know. 900 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,720 Moving on, Not justified. Moving on. 901 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,880 Moving on someone. Pulled out of their ass. 902 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,800 Moving on, moving on. So again, the female agency in 903 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,280 in From Dusk Till Dawn kind of flips because again, women are 904 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,960 seen as more of the objects. Women are seen more as objects. 905 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,560 Then you've got Juliette Lewis's character who was a little bit 906 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,880 of a frail teenager, but then she puts the big girls panties 907 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,800 on and she's got a fight. And that's when you're like, oh, 908 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,400 she's got a little bit redemption. 909 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,160 She's not this, you know, frail throwaway, you know, damsel in 910 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,720 distress. She's got to save her own 911 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:30,680 family. Her brother got killed, her 912 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,880 father got killed. Now she's got to deal with these 913 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,760 two fuck heads kids, you know, at the bar and trying to survive 914 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,000 the night. Boom. 915 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,080 What are you looking at me for? Because I said fuck heads. 916 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:48,480 No, I'm just waiting. No, I have no comments on 917 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,760 Juliette Lewis's character because she has no character. 918 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,280 There's no personality. There's the her role is victim, 919 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:02,280 and then victim turned. Vigilante, not a. 920 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,560 Badass. Yeah, she's not a badass. 921 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,400 She's. Not anything, she barely has a 922 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:06,960 character. It's. 923 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,000 Not she got into, you know what? She grew up. 924 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,800 She had. She was forced to grow up in the 925 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,480 movie. She was forced to grow up 926 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,240 because the two men in her life died. 927 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:19,840 She is the wow, Yeah, that's real. 928 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:23,680 Real feminist. It's not feminist and it's not a 929 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,680 feminist movie. The only time that you can 930 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,760 actually step into your own is if the men in your life. 931 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,120 Die, die. And that's literally what we are 932 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:35,840 left with, that that is the resolution of femme fatale in 933 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,920 this case of a movie. But she's not really a femme 934 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,960 fatale. But I'm saying that's just the. 935 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,400 At best, it's last girl. But. 936 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:45,880 Not even a good last girl, because George Clooney's still 937 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,880 the one saving everybody. Yeah, she's, I mean, but she is 938 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,520 the final girl, so we give her that. 939 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,440 But does she really count as a final girl? 940 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,520 No. George Clooney has more 941 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,560 character development. I would argue that George 942 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,080 Clooney is the final girl. There you go, she's also. 943 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,560 Prettier. So no. 944 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,440 Offensive, Julia. So I would say to wrap it up 945 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,520 with From Dusk till Dawn. I would say that ultimately sex 946 00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:14,680 is presented as a dangerous predatory force welded by its 947 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,040 female antagonists transforming. Wielded by. 948 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,000 The yes, the female antagonist transforming the conventional 949 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:26,880 vampire seductress trope into something more monstrous and 950 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,440 empowering before ultimately having their the male heroes and 951 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,440 surviving character destroy them. 952 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:38,680 That's literally what that is. Yeah, there's definitely a part 953 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,960 in the in the during like the turn in the monstrous 954 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,920 slaughterhouse that takes. So fucking long. 955 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,320 It does take a little bit too long. 956 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,360 Where like it feels like the, it does feel like the lesson is 957 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:56,000 going to be all these men are bad dudes and the women vampires 958 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,960 are going to tear them to pieces. 959 00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:01,800 And then instead they're all killed by the men. 960 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,680 So like, yeah, you're right. No, that's if there's a lesson 961 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,120 in Dustal Dawn. It's If you're a powerful sexual 962 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,920 woman, you are going to be killed by men who are hate and 963 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,680 fear your agency. So, and I would say to wrap it 964 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:21,240 up with the sum of sinners, I would say the symbol, the 965 00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:25,200 symbolism talking about the sexual encounters, particularly 966 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,200 oral sex are not just physical but symbolic, representing 967 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,960 culture, exchange, healing and a rejection of explosive forces, 968 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:37,120 vampires. But if I need anything to 969 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,920 compare the two in terms of like the final, this final summary, 970 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,320 it's that we gave you the summary of Dusk Till dawn. 971 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,360 We've told you pretty much everything that happens in Dusk 972 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,920 Till Dawn. We've told you a of what happens 973 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,720 in sinners. I feel like. 974 00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:52,640 So much more. There's a lot there's a lot more 975 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,360 deeper elements, but when it comes to like I said, when it 976 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,440 comes to the focal point here on sapphires of your play, I wanted 977 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,080 to focus on the sexual representation of what movies 978 00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:05,400 these movies both bring. And there is compare the movies. 979 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,560 Yeah, I mean we we are comparing the movies, but I'm talking, you 980 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,560 know, this focal is always say it is sex. 981 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,760 It is driven on sex women empowerment and I have to say 982 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:20,120 sinners does do a better job representing sex on film 983 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,360 representing female empowerment on film. 984 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,920 Whether or not you want to say that the females are submissive, 985 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,840 non submissive in this movie, that's. 986 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,640 Also, yeah, you can be submissive and still be 987 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,840 empowered. Absolutely. 988 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,520 Like those are not mutually exclusive. 989 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,800 And I would say, and I would say on top of that, it's like you 990 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:43,640 can decide who is submissive in this movie in Dusk Till Dawn. 991 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,480 You really have no choice. Oh it. 992 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,440 Tells you which. Character who's in in power it's 993 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,240 true so that's what I'm saying like you can have a difference 994 00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:56,800 in seeing the dynamics of these characters but when it comes to 995 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,480 sex representation, I would definitely say sinners sevens 996 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,360 all across the board just like the seven nominations that they 997 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,320 got for the Golden Globes. Congratulations guys. 998 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,800 Still kind of miffed on some of the the snubs on the actresses 999 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,720 ends, but that's OK Michael B Jordan better get his GG and so 1000 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:20,040 should so should Mr. Coogler. Yeah, I honestly it's I've. 1001 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,240 Yet to see a Ryan Coogler movie I didn't think was great. 1002 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,200 Honestly, all of his films somewhat just keep getting 1003 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,480 better and better and I think by far Sinners is a flawless 1004 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,600 masterpiece in my opinion of the Coogler era. 1005 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:40,680 I feel like that movie can do no like you cannot do. 1006 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,640 You cannot take that movie and redo it. 1007 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,320 You can't flip it. You can't flip it. 1008 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,760 I'm sorry, 99. Out of a. 100 like you really 1009 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,400 can't flip that movie. There's like one thing in it 1010 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:50,520 that I'm. Like that's Bane. 1011 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:55,040 I'm just saying as somebody who has lived through a lot of 1012 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,400 movies with black representation and a lot of movies that deal 1013 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,360 with black horror and mixing black horror insects, I have to 1014 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,640 say this is probably one of the better movies on that end as 1015 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:11,040 I've been going through a whole black exploitation re dive and 1016 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,320 re dig. Then got a little taste of 1017 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,480 coffee earlier this year. You did this year. 1018 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,560 Yeah, I know it's been a long year. 1019 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,320 It's been such a long year. Though Jackie Brown is on the 1020 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,960 list. Jackie Brown is on his list. 1021 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,960 I want to clarify just because I talk a lot of shit in this one 1022 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,360 and like in this conversation, I like Kill Bill is like one of 1023 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,120 your like top five. Yeah. 1024 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,600 I don't dislike Tarantino's films, I actually think he's a 1025 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,040 very good filmmaker. I just thought, I think Just Put 1026 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:45,880 On is a piece of shit. I like, I like, I like 1027 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,800 Inglorious Basterds is fun. I think Django Unchained is an 1028 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:53,920 incredible movie that Oh no, no, Pulp Fiction. 1029 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,640 Pulp Fiction is amazing. I actually have to still watch 1030 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:57,880 Pulp Fiction. We're going to watch Jackie 1031 00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,720 Brown in Pulp Fiction. Maybe we'll do a double feature. 1032 00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:01,120 So one for me and one for. You. 1033 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:06,000 Yeah, because it's crazy. I've loved Tarantino for years. 1034 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,160 I don't talk about it a lot because again, it's when you 1035 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,520 talk about Tarantino, there's a lot of problem then there's. 1036 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,600 Touchy to be an empowered woman. Who says they like Tarantino? 1037 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,920 It's very touchy, but I always say like just give me 5 minutes 1038 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,600 in a room with him and I will not put my foot in his mouth, 1039 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,600 but I would love to just sit in a room and talk to him about 1040 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,920 what he has actually really done for filmmaking, especially when 1041 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,080 it comes to the black experience. 1042 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,960 I think it's a very unique touch. 1043 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,080 Some people like to say it's a little controversial, but I got 1044 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,880 to hear from the man himself. Honestly, it is. 1045 00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:41,000 Interesting. Like just if we're going to 1046 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,440 briefly touch on that before. We wrap. 1047 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,240 Yeah, yeah, we're wrapping. Where both like both Tarantino 1048 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:54,240 and Coogler are known for how they, how they, for like how 1049 00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:56,640 they treat black representation in their films. 1050 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,920 And I don't, I'm not going to compare and contrast that 1051 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,840 because I don't frankly have like the ground to stand on 1052 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,320 about that. But it is interesting that I, I 1053 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,040 didn't think about that until this moment. 1054 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,840 Then I'm like, wow, they're both really known for how they treat 1055 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,200 each of how they treat that. How they treat it and one would 1056 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,640 say Coogler is just represented in A in a better light. 1057 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:22,240 As far as it, Tarantino still has the jadedness of the amount 1058 00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:24,720 of times he uses the N word in his context. 1059 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,280 But at the same time, you have put on the map a lot of black 1060 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,000 actors, Samuel L Jackson being one of them. 1061 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:38,640 I mean, longtime collaborator of his and never misses, never 1062 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,960 fucking misses. On top of that, it's the usage 1063 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,200 of black music that he uses. He references a lot of black 1064 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,800 exploitation films and that takes a lot of work to do. 1065 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,680 I think a lot of that's a style difference. 1066 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,720 It is. Coogler makes grounded films and 1067 00:55:54,920 --> 00:56:00,120 Tarantino makes like like. Tarantino likes to bring you 1068 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,800 back to a time where movies were innocent. 1069 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,200 What? That's the word you'd use. 1070 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,440 I must say it like that. I think it takes you back to a 1071 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,760 time where movies were sensational. 1072 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,520 Yes. Like the the going to the 1073 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,400 theater was the experience. You still go to a Tarantino film 1074 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,880 in theaters and you're like expecting to be like every 1075 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,160 Tarantino movie, regardless of genre. 1076 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,360 Feels like going to see a Marvel movie. 1077 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,560 I will say. The big you need the big screen, 1078 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,680 the big moment in the dark. You really do. 1079 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,600 And you know what, as much as it like again, we're trying to wrap 1080 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,520 this, there's a lot of uncertainty right now with 1081 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,560 Hollywood. And one thing is for sure, I 1082 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,000 just went to go see the re release of the whole bloody 1083 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,440 affair, Kill Bill 1 and 2. The whole bloody affair is 1084 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,240 intent. It was intended to be 4 1/2 1085 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,200 hours long. And of course studios were like 1086 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,200 no one's going to sit 4 1/2 hours long. 1087 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,440 I got to say the studios were fucking wrong. 1088 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,160 This by far way better than Kill Bill one and two and they're 1089 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,560 literally the same movie just with added elements. 1090 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:12,280 But it adds a different take. And being in the theaters and 1091 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,600 not watching this on DVD was an experience with itself. 1092 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,400 Even with the 15 people that were in the movie theaters with 1093 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,840 me, no one had seen that movie in theatre until that day until 1094 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,120 the re release. And we all pleasantly say it 1095 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,760 like fuck, we really spent six hours at a movie and did not 1096 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:34,440 complain. So studios, I don't know what 1097 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,320 you're saying that people don't want to go to the movies. 1098 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,640 I think you just have to make movies that are worth going to 1099 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,280 the movies and sinners worth going to the movies. 1100 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,600 We would love to see it again. Re released in 70 millimeter. 1101 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,760 There have been like 4 different releases and we have missed 1102 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,680 every single one. So Ryan Coogler, if you're 1103 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,360 watching this or someone says it to you, can we get another 70mm 1104 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,280 rerelease please? Please and thank you. 1105 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,200 All right, I think that's about it. 1106 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,800 My husband. What you think you you got some 1107 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,480 more, some more to say? Did I do you wrong? 1108 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,360 OK, I think he's no. Good, I got my big point out 1109 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,400 about the fact that Dusk Till Dawn is a zombie movie. 1110 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,040 He did and I'm very proud of him. 1111 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:20,160 And not and and and A and A and again, like, not a. 1112 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,400 It's not a vampire movie and it's not a horror film. 1113 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,200 It's still a horror film, OK? It's a horror action. 1114 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,600 Thing What's the How do you define a horror film? 1115 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,520 Is it intended to scare people? Still a horror film. 1116 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,280 Both movies are still horror films, but what type of war, 1117 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,640 that's up to you to decide. With that said, I have some 1118 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,160 great news to tell you. Earbuds. 1119 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,520 Sapphires Airplay is nominated once again for an AVN for Best 1120 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,520 Adult Podcast. So please, y'all have until 1121 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,560 January 24th, I believe, to submit those votes daily. 1122 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,720 You can vote five times a day. So you know what you must do? 1123 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,200 Sign up at the avn.com. I'll link it in the bio of this 1124 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:08,160 episode and do your worst. Meaning vote, vote vote. 1125 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,440 Come on y'all 19 years of this show and y'all need to put me 1126 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,400 on. Come on, get sapphires there, 1127 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,200 play an AVN. That's all I want for 2026 1128 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,560 besides some babies. Give me an AVN. 1129 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,960 I deserve it. I fucking deserve it. 1130 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,160 I can't say if I'm going to manifest babies with this man, 1131 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:25,960 but I am going to manifest babies with this man. 1132 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,360 You got. To pick one, you can manifest 1133 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:32,840 babies or manifest in AVN. I'm a manifest both and of 1134 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,520 course, make sure that you are following me at Miz Radio 1135 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,240 Sapphire. That's MSRADIOSAPPHIRE on 1136 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:45,320 Instagram, on YouTube. Yeah, no, Sapphire is here. 1137 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,560 Play on YouTube. And I do have an ex now it's 1138 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,200 Megan Sapphire because Miz Radio Sapphire, remember, was defunct. 1139 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,440 So now it's Megan Sapphire. Megan Sapphire. 1140 00:59:54,440 --> 01:00:00,520 That's MEHGANSAPPHIRE. Megan Sapphire on the X. 1141 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,200 OK so make sure to follow me on that. 1142 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,960 Remember that safe sex is the best hot sex. 1143 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:13,240 And if I don't release another episode until 2026, y'all have a 1144 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,400 great holiday. We love you so much. 1145 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,760 Coming back in 2026. Make sure you get me on the AB 1146 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,000 NS nominations. Please get me that nomination 1147 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,040 win. Till next time, goodnight. 1148 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,040 That was the show. All you sexy motherfuckers out 1149 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,000 there. Remember to follow at Miss Radio 1150 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,720 Sapphire and Sapphires Ear play on Instagram. 1151 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,680 Want some ear gasms of the past and future? 1152 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,320 Make sure to follow on Apple Podcast, Spotify, iHeartRadio 1153 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,080 and all streaming platforms.