See motherfuckers out there in Radioland, it's your girl
Sapphire, a new year and Oh my God, fresh off of avians, which
I did not go to because you know, your girl is trying to to
get busy in her personal life, you know, getting busy trying to
have a baby. And that is listen, let me tell
you, and I might get into this with my guests because I caught
her live on the day that we're recording because you know me,
I'm not going to tell you when we're dropping this episode, but
it's going to drop. But I caught one of her lives
and I got to say I'm falling in lust, my love lust with her
already. She is deemed the queen of
sweaty sex. She has been around since 2019,
$27.00 in her pocket is before she started in this business.
Now she's one of the Urban X Hotties Female Creator of the
Year she's been nominated and just all around just a Batty.
I got to welcome and bring in the rowdy frat boys for this
one. Got to welcome Carmella Clutch.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
Thank you guys for having me. Thank you so much for having me.
Of course I got to say, you know, did you go to Avian's last
month? Did you catch the avian flu as
everybody calls it? Yes and no.
I I didn't get actually the flu. I didn't get sick sick because I
took precautions before and after and I don't imbibe.
So I'm one of the I was being an Angel.
I was on my good girl behavior, doing bad things, bad naughty
things, hung out, did all the orgy stuff.
But I didn't drink or do any drugs other than weed.
So I actually didn't get sick. I love that.
You know what, congratulations, it was okay.
There you go and people if you don't understand, like if you go
to avians, even if you're just like a fan and you're going on
the floor, there's just a shit ton of people you don't know
What people have is body odored everything, It's just
everything. It is one Petri dig in the
Convention Center for like a. Week and then if you're Yep, 2
weeks because there's the convention before that too.
So and if you're drinking every night or you're partying every
night, your immune system is compromised.
So I've learned to be like a nun, except a very naughty nun,
like the kind that wears lingerie underneath and like
flashes people. If I walk by, I don't go
straight to hell, I'm going straight to hell.
At least my friends will be I'm I'm.
Gonna be there right with you. I'm gonna be there right there
with you. Because you know why I I know, I
know. You're Afrolac.
I know you're Alpha Latina. I know you probably grew up in a
strict Catholic holier than thou background.
Haven't worn across in 20 something years now, yeah.
So I get it. I mean, listen, Reformed I, I
say I'm the Reformed Catholic school girl.
I've had enough prayer, enough eulogy, all that shit.
Like I did 12 years of Catholic school and then some.
Oh, that was you in the other room.
And the Sunday? Uh huh, uh huh, girl.
Midnight night. That.
Lasted for two hours. Too fucking long.
Just people don't understand if
you got a Catholic school girl or a boy, you got a baddie, a
freak for life. Period.
Oh yeah, yeah. Especially like during those
times I was actually daydreaming gangbangs and like, I wish my
parents would have sent me off to an all girls boarding school.
Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?
Oh, Oh my. God, it's every dream.
I love it. So you love the girlies?
I love the girlies, I love the boys, I love the them days, I
love everyone. I'm pansexual.
What would you say is the most complicated in your dating life?
Like who's like who's the worst, the worst of the worst?
If you have to like. Like if there was a category of
people, oh man, man, it's the the Baron, the wood situation.
No, no, no, because like, you know, I've, I've, I've endured
some, some some nasty relationships, some crazy things
in and out of the, the industry. But emotionally where I am right
now, I, I, I identify more with women.
I emotionally connect more with women.
And I mean, I read a study that said that the women who I don't
want to say indulge so much as as grow and nurture their female
companionships and friendships, even though completely platonic,
can find it more emotionally satisfying and therefore, for
me, makes me all around happier. The sex I can get my Buzz
Lightyear toy doesn't, you know, that does everything that a man
will do and it doesn't give me a migraine at the end of the
fucking day. And Buzz Lightyear don't eat
socks everywhere, so. No, I feel rude.
It's funny when I try to explain to people like, yes, I am
married to a man, but I'm very much a lesbian.
Like this man is usually the only Dick.
I think. Yeah, like it's the only like
I've done. Yeah, like I've.
I've had a lot of Dick in my life, but I'm like, I'm good.
I don't know if you see like I feel you all up into the point
where you're like, it's the only Dick that you want moving
forward, which is a beautiful thing and I'm very happy for you
guys. But also I don't know if I can
only take one Dick for the rest of my life, I'll be.
Honest, it's well, in all fairness, In all fairness, no, I
get it. I get it.
For me, it's like, I'm polyamorous, but I'm more of a
lesbian in the polyamorous world now because like, yeah, yeah.
You know, when you it's just like, I mean, again, you're in
porn, so you're taking Dick in a whole different perspective.
Yeah. In in like in back.
Ways and back ways. You you've, you've gotten all of
them. And it's like I feel like in
the, in the regular sex world, I feel like I've just, I fucked it
all. I'm bored.
Y'all bored me, yeah. Yeah.
They bored me. No I I definitely understand but
baby find a beautiful looking woman that can strap.
I'm in. Love, it's warm in here now.
No, no, seriously, it it got really warm.
Like I have the fan and honey, I got hot flashes because I'm over
here just thinking about so. Like my mid 30s right now, I
can't be talking about all this sex shit anymore.
It just got me. Like, honey, we're the same age,
you know? Like, listen, let it fly, you
know, fan yourself. Look at you.
She busted off. Wait, no seriously, how?
How is the? Drafts in women and men and
orgies and I just started getting so hot.
No honestly it is. It is so hot.
Strap on sex y'all. Like there's just something
about strapping up. As a woman, do you like doing
the strapping or do you like to be strapped?
Cocaine Los dos. Oh yes, yeah.
Like do you feel like you feel more, do you feel like more
masculine when you when you got that deal?
You know, it depends on my partner.
I'm really, I'm a true switch. I'm a true true switch.
Tell me about. It I mean, there are some people
that evoke the more masculine energy out of me and then
there's just some days that I wake up and I'm like, I don't
feel like being on girly. I don't want to do the haunting.
In fact, I feel like wearing sweatpants and a crop top with
my under boob hanging out with my hair just fresh out of the
bed like this and looking like a sexier version of your man.
You know, like sometimes, sometimes I just, I just feel
I'm in my tomboy era, but I always.
Like to sex it up? A little bit, I'll show a little
extra skin, I'll give it. And this is going to date me.
But you, you are my age so you will understand this reference.
Everybody else may not get it, but fuck you.
Guys. Aaliyah.
Think of Aaliyah, how she was them tomboy but sexy with it.
She came with it like she had ABS, but you still wanted to
lick them. She Oh my God between her and
left eye those were my 2 like early.
That's how I knew I was really attracted to like the stem
studs. Really lame.
I was like. I think it was the movie Wild
Things where you had the femme in the mask.
Neb. Campbell and Denise Richards,
that whole scene, I, I must have burnt out my VCR going back and
were watching that part. My mom actually got mad at my
dad thinking that he was the one renting that shit from
Blockbuster. Why do you have to rent wild
things every fucking week? What's going on?
You want to talk about something?
And he's like, that's not me. And I'm like hiding the hiding
it me trying to switch out the case for a different case and
notice check out bro, I'm not even kidding.
These these are real memories. And for anybody who is a 90s kid
or 90s baby, those of you will remember this and hopefully
you're cracking up too because they don't make them like that
anymore. No, you know what I remember?
I'll never forget going to a video store and going and
sneaking into the porn section because I was like, oh, what's
behind the beaded area? Like you knew the.
Beads were so damn loud. They were you can seek.
And I was young, I was like maybe 5 or 6.
And I remember like video guy was like turning to my dad and
he's like, Sir, you, you might want to go get your your kid.
Yeah, yeah, go get. Your kid.
I was just like, what's this? This looks nice.
Why is this? What the hell?
Oh shit, this will be. Because that's where the adults
go. I want to go see like.
It's like those things, like, I don't know, I feel like as we've
gotten older, there's no taboo with porn.
Do you feel like there's no like, oh, what's behind that
closed door? Like that door, like
everything's just now out in the open.
You know what I mean? I kind of missed this.
It very much is. I think there are certain kinks
and fetishes that some people try to hide, but we all kind of
know, like people who have worked with me know, and this is
a tidbit for you. I don't like spit.
I don't like the way spit smells.
So I don't like being. If you notice in my scenes, I
don't let people spit in my face or on my face.
You want. To.
Yeah, I don't let someone spit in my mouth or my face.
And the few times that someone spat in my mouth, that someone I
know very well and one of two things happens, you see me
hesitate and I'll do it just because I don't want to fuck
that part of the scene up or you'll see me do it and just
kind of do it. It just depends on who it is.
Manuel Ferreira. That man could tell me to I, I,
that man could do anything and I would be like, yes, please.
And do it again. Honestly, between.
Him and be like. Yeah.
No, I mean, honestly, you've got to take it.
So let's let's take it for what it is.
Spit is nasty. Spit is a combination of
bacteria, phlegm, and it's just not good.
I have a very sensitive, very sensitive vagina.
Yeah. My man cannot spit in my pussy
like I no one can spit in my pussy because as Yeah, I mean,
well, here's the thing. I have.
I have herpes and I have vaginal herpes.
And what people don't realize is that when you're spitting into
the vagina of someone who might have genital herpes, regardless
if they're not having an outbreak or not, you make you
you open that wrist up a little bit more because, yeah, it's
true. Absolutely, absolutely.
And, you know, so that's just one of the hang ups I have and
and it plays out in my scenes in that way.
But, you know, then there's, there's some people, there's
some things that you know, I, I want them to do and I ask them
to do on set. But like the spitting thing,
that's a kind. Of spitting is an absolute no
no, yeah. Anywhere else on me just not
like here down OK. So what were boots down I?
Don't want a backdraft of it. And like I used to have a whole
story of it. Like I was picked on as a kid
and like it's it's from some trauma.
Like, it is from from trauma. Yeah.
When I was a little girl, I was the first little brown girl in
my neighborhood. And at like 5-6, before my
sister was born, a group of little girls didn't like me.
And they had heard their parents calling other little brown girls
that look like me spics. And they thought that meant
spit. So they grabbed me and held me
down and they all spat on me. And the smell of it dried on me.
Nobody helped me through it. As a kid.
I went home with spitting my hair.
My mom said, what is this in your hair?
And she's like, trying to get it out.
And I explained it. And of course, she took care of
it the next day. But like, you know, that sticks
with me. And I don't like the smell of
spit. It's just the whole thing.
But how fortunate that I'm in an industry that if I don't like
something, because of the nature of how intimate this act is, if
I don't like something, I can say I don't like this.
Don't do it. I know people that are in
relationships that don't have that luxury.
Sadly, that's. What breaks my heart is that
people who are in relationships, they feel that they have to
compromise on everything and that they're not allowed to have
boundaries. You are absolutely allowed to
have boundaries. I want people to understand
taking it into 2026, boundaries in relationships, in all
relationships. Doesn't matter if it's a sexual,
a personal everything. We need more boundaries.
If an if anything else, if anything else from this year
that we can take is boundaries. I really want people to
understand boundaries this year. And respecting boundaries
because it's real nice and easy to hit someone with a boundary
when it makes you uncomfortable. But when someone tells you, hey,
you know what, here's a boundary and you have to then respect it
all that sometimes that hit different and and not everyone
can receive the way they did. So be prepared to instill
boundaries and to respect boundaries all 20 years and move
it on. Let's do it, please.
Speaking on that too, boundaries with fans.
Can we get into that? Because I caught you live.
I caught you live this morning. And I like to, I like to get to
know my guests. And I was like, Oh my God, I'm
on Instagram, my guest is on live.
Let me go pop in and Oh my goodness, how how I I just, I
always ask a lot of my friends who are also in the industry and
I'm notorious. I was like, I will go and clap
back on the fans and then my the important friends are like, no,
don't do that SAF, calm down. It's all.
Good. You know what?
No. Tell them about themselves.
Sometimes they need to know. They do, doesn't.
Mean you are. You are protected.
Don't do that hell, and you know what?
You caught me on a good day, on a day where I had patience
because I took I took a break, but there was a time, girl, that
I was doing this every single day.
And. Damn near every day having to
tell them off and it was to a point where I was like this is
this is not fun. I'm doing this for free.
I'm giving free game. For those of you who don't know,
I do this segment every morning called coffee with clutch.
I do it on my Instagram. It's free.
You just you don't even have to follow me to see it.
You literally just click on the live and what it is, is it's a
Q&A where people are able to ask me about sex, industry,
relationship, content creation, my personal life.
I literally leave everything open for you guys.
I don't necessarily name all the names because I have to maintain
this industry that I'm in. I need to continue.
Working. I have to have a job, I have to
be able to put food on my table, provide for myself.
So, yeah, you know, names, I don't necessarily put them in
there, but I do tell you facts and details and things that
happen really in my life, whether it be a crazy orgy at
Avian to like, you know, the time I was as aid like these
things. I I make it open and free and
it's free information on consecration and legality and
testing and things like that. Information that would have
saved me so much time, energy, heartbreak, physical pain, like
everything. I do it every morning.
And sometimes people get a little too aggressive in the
comments. We're talking straight up people
talking about my family, demanding to see parts of my
body, people putting me down and berating me, people judging me.
And I do it with a smile on my face either way.
But sometimes, sometimes, oh, I got to go off on them.
So it's it's understandable. It's it's understandable that
you want to go off on these fans.
Feel free hi listen. If you've got to tell them about
themselves, then good. Sometimes they need to hear it.
That's you know what, listen, I like to make people
uncomfortable to the point where it's like, no, you, you need to
look at yourself. And I would say like, I wish
there was like send it to their Mama because I feel like half of
these little fuck boys, these little fan fuck boys, they need
a little ass spanking from their Mama, OK, Or at least like some
reprimanding from the Mama. I I want to like, like it.
That's the thing. I like it.
I Yeah. I had to realize halfway through
that me telling people off sometimes they want that
response they like it and like I don't like when I get that
scary. I heard myself this morning get
that scary like my voice raised and almost I scared my damn
self. I I, I kind of turned on.
I was turned on when you told this man, like when he said
smile or something, I was like, yeah, no, no, he said.
What did he say? Why are you angry?
He said calm, calm down or
something like that. I was like.
Calm. Down Well, you haven't even seen
me angry or obsessed. I'm not.
Melanated. Don't let this freaking weed
fool you. I haven't melanated as fuck.
I will go off on you. Girl, I just think let's yeah,
let's take a pause for a second on that one because people need
to understand you cannot be going around telling women of
color to calm the fuck down. You cannot.
You can say it to you know what?
OK, Say it to any of the white women.
Don't say it. Do not say it to a person of
color. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You want to see calm down. I'm going to show you calm down.
I've got 13 more octaves I can go.
Don't play no and I'm Puerto Rican.
Our our normal sound is loud. This I'm talking to you and I'm
very loud. I know they can hear me on the
1st floor. I'm on the third.
OK, I'm well aware and this is my normal conversation voice.
If I'm angry, it goes up here like.
Octaves everything. So in high school, and this is
just a funny anecdote, I mean, in high school, I had a friend
over and she was, like, hanging out.
We're hanging out in my room and stuff.
And she hears my parents are talking and they're laughing,
but they're talking. My mom is very Puerto Rican, and
she's from the Bronx. My dad is very Brooklyn from the
Bronx. Yeah.
About it. Loud.
Loud, I mean. And.
She's like should I leave? Should I go?
I mean, I just don't want to be here and as an inconvenient I
just if this is family time, I'm like, what are you talking
about? They're what are you they're oh,
them they're just watching the game.
What do you? It's a regular Sunday.
This is this is a regular Tuesday for us.
What do you talk about? She's like, oh, I thought they
were angry. I thought they were fighting
because, you know, they're so loud and they're yelling and
like, yeah, them happy. You should hear them upset.
I didn't know it was possible, but she got really pale at that
point. She got scared.
Oh, it was OK. She's fine.
She she was the first few times that she had been to a Latin
household, It was about time. She lived in Miami.
It was time to go. Let's go.
Oh yeah, no, yeah, get it together.
I love it too, because this one thing like I get very passionate
and when I tell people like I get passionate and I get I'm
going to get stern with you. It doesn't mean that I'm angry.
I'm a little aggravated and I'm passionate of what I do.
And so I want passionate and and tell you you're a piece of shit
respectfully. Especially, you know.
You're a piece of shit does that.
Mean that I think you're a piece of shit all the time.
Maybe, maybe not, but you know, it's a possibility that I just
think you're a piece of shit right now.
Right now to let it be known. And sometimes you know what we
is, some people need to be accountable for the action.
So I'm going to take it upon myself and be passionate and be
like, you fucked up. Go go and correct yourself.
Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with that.
That's that's being an adult that's we've called people so
much. Like there's nothing wrong with
correcting people. You can do it with grace or you
could do it sternly, depending on what the situation is.
You know, like I I might be a little bit more graceful at
first, but after the second or third time baby, but I start
laughing and and and while I'm making the threatening voice you
don't want. To Ryan Ryan.
Run. Just run.
This is an elbows. Oh man, oh man.
Is there anything that you feel moving forward as you continue
this wonderful journey that you've been doing?
I mean, my goodness, do you feel like your fans are a little bit
more aggressive now that they have a little bit more access to
you? Like moving forward, do you
you're going to have to hone it in a little bit more.
The more and more that we demand like fan access to our adult
stars, do you feel like you're going to have to?
No, actually, believe it or not. So I was going to, I was
actually going to stop doing coffee with Clutch because I
felt so attacked by people often.
And what I found, especially at these conventions, everybody
that I, I met with damn near every single one of these
hundreds of people that came to see me told me how much they
really enjoyed the time coffee was clutch.
Even if they came on for just a few minutes, then seeing me or
talking to me or hearing me talk about something that inspired
me, it just in some way impacted them in a positive way.
And that that is ultimately what the goal is.
And, and I find that as they get to know me, like actually me and
it's, I don't, I'm not trying not to tear up.
I always, I was never the popular kid or anything like
that. So for me to be accepted and the
more that people get to know me and my personality, they become
protective of me. You know, for that little kid
that got beat up that no one would protect, that means a lot.
I'm trying not to. Cry No, you didn't make me cry
because I I literally, I, I don't want to say like I relate,
but I do because I too was the girl who was always picked on.
Never understood. I'm still not understood in my
adulthood to a lot of people. But the most acceptance I have
ever had was in the adult industry just being my natural
radio personality. Like, and I love how the adult
industry has a lot of nerds. People don't understand, like
horn stars are some of the nerdiest, some of the
friendliest folks that you can get to know in this industry.
And it's like we're all a little bit of outcasts.
All of the, you know, it's like, I love how there is a sense of
acceptance. Yes, there's a lot of
competition because it is, you know, battle of who's looking
banging and who's got bigger tits and all that.
But at the end of the day, I feel like all of us in the adult
industry, regardless if you're working behind the scenes or in
front of the camera, we all have that that inner child that
needed to feel accepted in a way.
And so now you have a community to feel accepted by.
Yeah, I I would totally agree with that.
It's, and it's so supportive. I mean, there, there are little
cliques, there are groups of people.
And I think I even said it this morning, you know, everyone, the
people in the industry are just like the people outside of the
industry. You know, people, everyone's got
assholes and sometimes they stink.
People have assholes. It's kind of like that, you
know, sometimes the person who's really having a shitty day, that
fun wasn't intended, but you know, but you know, the then
there's some people who, you know, they consistently have
shitty days and you're just like, you're probably just a
shitty person. I do feel insanely supported.
I have a tremendous amount of social anxiety and I found that
if I was and I, I, I talked to my therapist about this, I found
that if I'm a forward coming about it forthcoming and I let
them know, Hey guys, they're like, Hey, how are you guys
enjoying your, your convention? And my response is, Hey, no,
this is really cool, a little over stimulating.
And to be honest, I have a little bit of the tism.
So this can be a little bit overwhelming for me.
I have social anxiety. When I tell people I have social
anxiety or I explain to them why I find especially the women tend
to be a lot more compassionate. They can do.
Oh, I totally get it. I have the same thing.
Let's step away from the crowd and have a conversation instead
of being right in the middle of a dance floor.
Like, that'll probably make you a little uncomfortable.
Let's go over here. Things like that.
Yeah. And.
And as far as being open about your sexuality, your sexual
identity, your kinks, your likes, your dislikes, I have
never met a more welcoming group.
Oh, you like Shabari ties? I know someone who does it.
Well, would you like to try it? You know, and thus I was, I had
my first couple of ties. Like if there's something that
you want to experience it, experience in a safe and
professional manner, there's no better, better place than the
industry. That being said, this is not for
everyone at all. Oh.
I had a subject. I I had a nerve there.
No, no, no. It's a good nerve because yeah,
God, I'm so glad somebody said it.
It is like I'm glad. And I, I've had a lot of people
in the walks of life talking about the industry and even some
people didn't like some of the things that I've had to say
about the industry As of last year with one of my good
friends, Anna Fox, And things have been resurfacing because I
did speak out against a certain producer.
I don't I have beef with him. I just the quote was misquoted
and then sent to him. And then people are like how
dare you? And I'm like, no, I need you to
understand when you are a black male in this industry, it
doesn't matter if you're dark skinned, light skinned, you are
to protect and to respect are black content creators who are
women. Don't be selective in who you
choose for that content. Like and I'm talking about light
skin, dark skin, it's like 1 dimensional.
Features versus Afro features. Trust me, I know.
And at one point, I think where you're channeling this from the
live, because we were talking about that was when I was asked
to send pictures of my areolas, my anus and my labias.
What, so that they could see what color it was so they would
determine what site they would book me on.
Yeah, that's yes that that happens sometimes.
That makes me mad. That makes me mad.
It's it's so that categorically, when people are looking it up
online, they're able to say Latina.
I understand now because I'm in the industry where it stems
from. That doesn't mean I make an
excuse for the stigma and dynamics that it perpetuates.
I agree with what I'm saying without me saying it because I
got to be careful because I still got to work in this.
Industry too. Listen, I am not.
I'm not trying to fuck up my bag.
I will say it as somebody who worked for a certain company.
I was upset in a meeting and I always bring this up once in a
while. I get mad when I I got mad and I
kind of knew that was like my last straw.
When you're telling me that the average porn consumer is so
ignorant that they cannot get past Ebony to black?
I got to warn me before I have, not while I'm drinking.
Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't need you.
I didn't need you to, you know, choke and die on here and.
You're going to be real mad at you.
What happened? Listen when you're telling me
more where porn consumers cannot decipher between Ebony and black
and we can't change that because you know, it's just so embedded
Rid. Of the term IR exactly.
I'm sorry, what? In the stupid.
Yeah, because it would take coding to uncode it and change
the listen. It takes 2 minutes. 2 minutes
and I'm sure everybody will find their favorite.
Car it takes the larger companies to do it, they'll
follow suit. So yeah, larger companies,
because we'll just say it, most people are too pussy to do
something on their own. So it takes the bigger companies
to set the standards for testing, for treatment on set,
for Do's and don'ts, for safety. It takes them setting that
standard. And that is why there are so
many content creators, so many porn stars that won't work with
a content creator unless they have been on a pro set.
So that we know that they are aware of safety, of protocol, of
just how things are done. And most people who are on a
porn set, a pro set won't deviate from that.
We kind of kind of stick through it because we all want to be on
our PS and QS. You have to be, you have to be.
And I feel like, oh I'm so glad you even said haunting creators
and porn stars. I also had a conversation with
the friend in porn last week. Literally same thing.
I cannot explain it. Yeah, there's a difference.
And I need the content creators to also not feel bad or to say
well, I'm not that. No, if you are selling adult
content as a content creator, you are an adult performer or
adult content a content creator. OK, if you are in porn and you
make more than 100 some odd scenes or a couple few films,
that's when you can call yourself a porn star.
We cannot call some of these only fan models porn stars
because they have never stepped foot on a professional set.
Yes, they are producing adult content, but it is not porn.
You made a great point. Is it adult?
Is it consumed the same way that porn is?
In many ways, yes. It doesn't have its own lane.
Absolutely, there's its own lane.
And I am so grateful for those platforms because it lessens the
competition, that competitive nature, and allows for
collaboration where all rise, where rising tides lift all
sales, you know? And that's really important,
that sense of community and collaboration over competition.
Because historically in the world of porn, a company would
say we're going to shoot 30 scenes.
Realistically it's more like 20 because you know 30 is a lot for
production. But for the sake of running
numbers so that you guys can understand, in 30 scenes one
month that they would shoot 20 to 25 women who were blonde
hair, blue eyed, 115 lbs between the ages of 18 and 23.
Then after those 20 to 25 girls they'd shoot 2 light skinned
Latinas. About my complexion, not thick,
skinny Anglo features, straight hair.
Do you know what that does to our hair?
You know? OK, so then after that, now
we've got what, 27? They'll shoot one Asian girl and
maybe one to two black girls, all with Anglo.
Features and probably not dark skin.
Like it can't be more. Than likely.
Which brings me to what I just said about platforms allowing
there to be a collaboration over competition.
And it also allowed for the consumer to voice clearly what
they wanted. As in, hey, we want us some
thickness. Hey, we want us some fast.
Hey, we don't like these little twigs that you're giving us.
We want more color. We want more this more that.
It's allowed them to say, oh shit, we're ignoring.
We're ignoring a huge demographic.
And look at all this money that they're making without us.
I love that it's provided a voice to my fans to feel
empowered that they can go to a company and say, hey, we demand
Carmella Clutch, and if we don't get her, we'll just go to her
site. So these platforms are
fantastic. They're fantastic.
But baby, just because you're on a platform don't make you a porn
star. Thank you.
Until you can calculate when you're going to actually squirt
and then aim it with precision at the right time but not hit
the actual camera, yes, we can do that.
Some of us. Yes, yes, it is a skill.
Until you can fake an orgasm that makes you believe that,
that makes God believe that you really had it, you're not a porn
star. Until you have to deal with the
great things we deal with on set.
I had to give you a clap for that one because it's true.
It is so. Oh my God, it is so.
Sex in front of a camera and having insects in front of a
room full of people and a room full of lights in uncomfortable
ass positions. Paying attention to the camera
and not to your own pleasure. That is porn storyline script
wardrobe. It's not just lingerie.
Yes, it's a. Full production.
Yeah, and the testing and the testing is so important.
Like you can't just go around shooting content and not
protecting your. Prized possession I I we like
most people in the porn industry, don't have sex with
people outside of the porn industry.
Why? Because it fucks with our
testing. And guess what?
I got to pay for that. Not even a lot.
It's not that much. But like, I'm not sure if you're
aware it's like 240. That's not.
Every two weeks or every week, because you decided to have fun
with Fulanesca over here and you didn't even know that they
weren't tested or you didn't. Oh, my God.
And God forbid you catch something and you give it to
someone. Do you understand that we're
working with people's livelihoods.
They are providing for their families.
They have partners. Some of them have kids.
The last thing they need to do is come home to their partner
and give them something. So yeah, we all take it very
seriously. As I tell people, it's like the
moment you hear that there is a shutdown in the industry, 12:50
that is because someone stepped out outside of the industry with
Someone Like You just said. And what does that say for
civilians out there y'all need to get?
Tested. Y'all need to get tested.
Y'all are nasty, sorry. God no, no, they are they.
Are so yes and no, because I was.
I was when I was a Muggle. I call it being a Muggle.
It's my new thing. I love it.
When I was a muggle I would only get tested before and after new
partners and to be honest I didn't enter my slutty years
till after college. So during college I was dating
someone and I thought I was all good and then after we broke up
I wanted to hook up with someone else and I went and got tested.
This fool gave me chlamydia. I didn't know I was sitting
there with it. I had no fucking.
Clue. Oh yeah, there was that one
night. I mean, there was one time I
didn't think anything. Do you know what?
The frat boys, whatever bar. Yeah, no, no, yeah, obviously we
got that taken care of. I'm tested every week to two
weeks, depending on how my workflow is.
If I'm the only time I'll let a test lapse in between is if I've
got a crazy period or I'm doing some traveling.
Like when I had surgery and I, you know, I knew I wasn't going
to be shooting anything for a couple of months.
Other than that I stay tested and most civilians I know don't.
Yeah, no, I I really, I want people to normalize testing more
like any even being polyamorous and people think that, you know,
just because my husband and I go to sometimes sex parties or we
have partners outside. Like, no, we, we don't play
around with testing. And especially, especially for
me it is, I have to say, since my herpes diagnosis, I am a
bigger hoe and a selective hoe. I am a more selective hoe.
I've always have been, but now it is making me so selective
because I don't want to give my sexual energy to ignorance.
OK, my husband, that's something.
Yeah, that's part of that's part of like maturing and becoming a
woman is, you know, feeling like you have the sexual chemistry,
knowing this tension. I call it sex magic because
that's. The thing it is magic.
It's the real thing and you have and you know that you have this
capability. Women in particular have this
proclivity because we life comes from us.
So that's where you know sex magic comes to play and you
don't want to share that with everyone.
I totally understand that. In fact, since I've gotten in
the industry, I've become so selective that I hardly ever
have sex off camera anymore. Like personal sex?
Yeah, it's crazy to ask you. I wanted to ask you, you know,
about the personal sex because it's it's very interesting when
you hear. And again, if you don't have
friends who are in the industry or you don't work in the
industry, it's like you can never guess like how sexually
active a porn star like yourself can be active.
So for you, is it more of like if you are dating someone
intimately, you rather have the more intimate side than the
sexual side? Or is it like an ebb and flow
kind of thing? Like how how does dating
Carmella clutch? How does?
How much coffee do you have? Girl, we got time.
Okay, all right, well, it's like an ebb and flow thing.
You were kind of a spot on with that.
You know, there are times where I'm working a lot.
This past AVN recovering from surgery did not do a lot of
shooting. Last AVN, I shot 16 scenes over
the course of two weeks. I got tested before, in between,
and after I 16 scenes I had enough to do at least one drop
every month without having to do anything for the rest of the
year. But I don't do that.
Thank you. I don't do that.
That was that was a large amount during that time I wasn't having
sex off camera because I was so focused on that.
There have been times where I've been in relationships and you
know, the sex that I have on camera is that on camera and
then we have some sex off camera.
And then I've also been in relationships where, and I don't
know if this was the healthiest. It was supposed to be more about
the intimacy. It really wasn't, but that's
what I thought it was at the time, you know what I mean?
He thought. You know, I just wish you'd he'd
live his truth. He was definitely down low.
I just wish you would live his truth.
Come on y'all, come on. I just wish you would.
I just, you know, baby, I would have put on a strap.
Actually, I did a few times. That's why I have it on camera.
But that's a different story for a different time.
Have that in the bank every. And if he acts out, it will be
going online 'cause I do have the paperwork for it too.
So. Smart, smart.
See everybody listen if you get the documentation.
Sign that paperwork doesn't matter if they're dating you.
That's right. Sign the paperwork.
It's not for then people. With funny ears front and back.
If they agree to it, it ain't revenge.
No, absolutely. Nope.
Definitely not. But yeah, no, it's an ebb and
flow thing. The intimacy has become more and
more paramount to me. I don't need, like I said, Buzz
Lightyear. Buzz, he'd be doing all the
things. If those of you who don't know,
Buzz Lightyear is my boyfriend, he is a wand with unicorns and
rainbows on him. Is it like this light like my
little buzzies right now? My girlfriend gave me these,
they're my SO. Cute.
I saw that. I saw them when we logged on.
They're so adorable. It's like that, but blue and
like and like rainbows and and can I show you?
Oh my God, please. Yes you can.
Yes. OK.
Ignore, ignore my wardrobe room, it's a mess right now.
I love this I, I, I don't think I've ever had in Sapphire's
airplay history, any of the porn stars come out and bring out
their toy box. So I love this I.
Mean it's not the toy box I have a whole I I I don't I don't have
enough space for just a box I I I have like walls.
This is my favorite guy. I'm not kidding, I have.
Walls. I love it.
Isn't he cute? It's like it's got a.
Lot of space there's a little oil on him from because he he
likes to stay lubed. Yes, yes.
You see, that's a cute night. But isn't it cute?
It's just. I'm in lust.
I love it. It's a little.
Pink detailing the best part about this guy.
He does not give me a headache and he don't make a mess of my
pay my my sanctity of peace. Boom and you don't have to pay
for the Uber. No, why would you?
Why would I pay for the Uber? I'm one of those.
I don't like people in my space. Oh my God, it's my energy.
It's my space. This is my temple.
This is as close as people get as they can see it, but that's
about it. I feel you.
Like again, it's that selective onus, like there's some partner
you can come over, we can fuck in my loving bed and then there
are some I'm like, no, no, we can fuck in the living.
Room we can fuck, we can fuck a wardrobe room.
I literally will clear that off and fuck someone there before I
bring them to my bedroom. Boom.
It's about energy. It's about energy exchange.
And although what I do is very intimate, it is not intimacy, so
it doesn't satiate that part of my brain.
Can you please say that one more time?
Although what I do is intimate, it's not intimacy.
So when people are like, how can you fuck someone and not have
emotions? Well, how do you say hi to your
secretary or your mailman and not catch feelings?
It's the same thing for me. I work with them.
You know, the intimate parts are the parts where after Avni call
you up and I say, can I come over and you say yes?
And then I just asked like, can we just watch something funny
and like cuddle? Like, can I just be warm and be
near you? Like, can we go and get food and
say nothing? You know, like, can we, can I be
silly with you? Can I pull my guard down around
you? That's intimacy for me.
And are you a safe space for me? Because this world is a scary
place out there. It is and nothing is more than
important. Especially, and I bring this up
a lot, COVID should have really tapped into people's sense of
intimacy and the sense of how much we lost.
For me, it's like I cherish those times because I went
through a lot mentally, but also I really learned how to tap into
the more intimate side of myself and how to be more intimate with
my partners, not just on a sexual basis because I love sex.
I love sex like the next person. Wait.
As I've gotten older, I really enjoy the intimacy that is
entangled with the fucking. I love it all.
I like the aftercare, the rubdown.
My mind before we even get into the penetrative art of sex.
It's like all of that, That's hard.
I'm I'm a sapio and demisexual as well, which is strange to
hear from a porn star right? Like that's.
Not at all. Really.
Well, you know, now that you've come to mention it, yeah, there
are a lot of us out there. But I know that that's not what
a lot of people would expect to hear from us.
But I am very much a sapiosexual.
I find intelligence sexy. If we could have witty repartee
and not zingers, not like, hurting each other, but we can
exchange ideas and teach each other and explore the world
around us together. Oh, man, I'm already starting to
fall in love. Like I, that is like, yeah.
And love is such a strong, powerful word for me.
I don't use that word for anything.
But that is how you seduce me. You want to get to me
physically? You got to be able to seduce my
mind. Oh, you're not interested in the
mind? Please kick rock.
Sir, I get paid to fuck the literal most beautiful looking
men and women on the planet. I don't care about the intimacy
part. I can do that to myself.
I feel like you and I may have known each other in the past
life because you said something that resonates and I always used
to say it penetrate my mind first before my pussy because
it's like I need to know who I am fucking with.
I don't know about you and and probably my husband can hear
this if he's still in the house, but I'm a crime addict so I'm
looking like I'm looking at you as a suspect.
Are you going to fuck me or are you going to fuck me up?
And so am I hiding from? You in the woods?
Are we playing catch in the woods?
What's what are you doing? I need to know everything I need
to know if you are psychotic and honey, I've definitely I've
definitely avoided with my couch test.
I used to do this in my my single single day I'm.
Writing this down with. My couch test, it was like I had
to type in the sapiosexual of me.
I needed to know your brain. I needed to know how you
function, how you play. If you're going to have sex with
me, I need to know all your limitations, all your
boundaries. I want to know everything
because again, this pussy is sacred.
Your your body. You only get 1.
So if you're going to fuck up my body, fuck up the mind first I
need to just know if you are sane.
Because let's be honest, a lot of people don't.
Just take the time to get to know who they're fucking.
And then behold, you're married 10 years later, miserable as
fuck, and you're like who the fuck did I marry?
You didn't ask what? You're getting crazy and you
don't put crazy inside of you. Period.
That's why everybody needs a couch test of their own.
You need to start vetting for these people.
I do see I don't trust my own judgment sometimes though,
because like, you can give me a row of 50 men and each one that
I pick is the one with all the fucking problems.
There's mommy issues, job issues, the lack of drive, lack
of bank account, fucking no life skills.
Like loser, asshole, narcissist. You like, give me a lineup, give
me some really good guys and give me all the bad ones too.
And I promise you I'll fucking do it blindfolded.
How about that? I just hear it.
I can tell. Oh, he's a bad one.
Come here. I want that.
OK, so here's the thing. If there's anybody who's in TV
Landia out there, I want to do a dating show.
I'm so fucking serious. But my friends are going to pick
for me. My fucking friends.
One of my friends is a psychologist and the other
friend is the bestie that has no hair on her tongue.
She will tell you that if you don't treat me the way she
treats me. What the fuck are you good for?
That's all. Who says?
Now. We need to green light this now
I'm I'm investing. Good.
It's such a good show. And here's the kicker.
I've been saying for years that I don't want to date anyone
because I I know I have really shitty taste in men and like and
my fans just want to see me happy as the more that they get
to know me, they just want to see me fall in love because I am
a lover girl. I'm just a reformed one who's
learned my fucking lesson so. Hey, we've all been there.
We've all been there. So, so I'm like, if there's
anybody out there that wants to do this, I've been dying to do
this and my friends are going to do it.
And I have literal people that are like, how do we apply?
There's actual fans, there's people, there's.
That are. In my actual personal life that
want to apply. If you need the dating
correspondent, just call me girl.
I will be there. Let me, let me just I'll be I'll
be the Ariana Maddox were you like, you know, for Love Island.
I'll be there like I'm. Gonna need you to like, ask them
some questions. Do you know one guy basically
started. I know I went on a.
Date with a fan once and he's so handsome and he comes to see me
every every year at the conventions and, and one year he
I just decided, all right, fuck it, you know, I'm newly single.
Why? He comes into town and he takes
me to this beautiful dinner. It's a great restaurant.
Or at least I think it is because I wasn't able to eat the
food because he was basically interviewing me the whole time.
What? What?
And then, and then not only was he, like, questioning me, the
whole I couldn't eat my food, I was like, I literally this is me
to go take a bite. Well, actually.
And then have the conversation. Yeah.
My favorite. Yeah, He asked me what my
favorite color was, and I said I love this sunset orange, Peach
color, very peachy orange color. Actually, it's this one right
here, this color. I love that color.
But I guess in an interview I had answered as Carmela and
Carmela's favorite color is red. Red is also one of my favorite
colors too. It's just something that I wear
a lot, you know, it's, it's something that they always, the
companies always put me in because I'm Latina.
It, it, it drives me insane. But it is what it is.
And I guess I'd said it that day and in the interview, God forbid
I change my mind or my taste adjust, because, you know, that
was only an interview from four years ago.
He corrected me. He pulled it up.
He had it already on his phone in one of the tabs.
This man pulled up his phone that had this tab open with my
interviews, all of my interviews, all of my interviews
for like 4 1/2 years at that point.
Yeah, I know. I still fucked him because I'm a
flash but and he's did I mention he's really hot and I have
really bad taste in men. Was it good?
It was the different athlete good?
Damn. Didn't talk during sex Because
if he's talking that much during dinner.
He was nervous, he lasted 3 pumps.
They got it up again. We tried again, but like, and
then he seen this weird thing where he was like kind of
salamandering where he was like he was on his hands and his toes
in missionary instead of just on his knees and he was his whole
body was going into me like, like I, I need you to understand
that. I think I have to demonstrate
no? Please demonstrate because I'm
like what? This is me, right?
That's me. And he is on his hands and his
toes on the bed, salamandering his whole body like.
This Is he a big guy? So there was no no rhythm.
There was no rhythm. There was no.
Stroke. No, No.
Yeah. And then he came sadly and he
didn't even have the decency to pull out.
He did test, so we knew we were good.
OK. And that was a stipulation.
He had to get tested before he was even seen in public with me.
Oh my God. Yeah, that was the last time,
the first and last time I've ever dated a fan.
I was just about to say, all right, and you still want to
green light this project? I still want to green light the
project because I think it would make great TV and I think it
would show fan like I think it would make great TV and if it
didn't, if I end up getting a good date out of it, that'd be
awesome. If I don't and I have some funny
shit to talk about on the next podcast like.
I'm all for it. I'm all for it.
Listen, we're going to manifest before you.
We're going to manifest this and TV show.
I just, they got to be good fun. Oh yeah, turn into a competition
where they like we can make it a whole like a season.
Like the like the pad of love or something?
Like the clutch of love or something, or get like, yeah,
something like that. Oh, get clutched, clutched.
I like that. Are you ready to get clutched
today? I love that.
That's that's really let's who's watching this?
I need everyone to watch this. Yeah, that's it.
That's it. Man's like, listen, we're going
green like this. Boom.
I'm going to write this down. Talk to Laney Green Laney.
Boom, Laney make what happened. I love.
Laney. She'd be like, it would be her,
no worries. I got you.
All for it, I'm all for it. So speaking all for it and all
these projects, I'm, I mean, we got to know what what's lined up
for you, what's coming up. So I just had some lipo done and
I'm getting back into the industry.
I took maybe it'll be four months in total that I take off
from shooting, which doesn't sound like a lot of time, but
that is eons for me. So yeah.
So I'm going to be getting slowly working with some women
and then getting into working with men girl.
It would tell me. It would tell me.
So when you have lipo, apparently they got to lipo your
poom poom. OK, Why do that?
Yes, Queen, when they lipo your stomach, they got to lipo your
poom poom. Otherwise it's going to look
like you have a toe stone. And I'm not a toe stone, you
know, Bon bon, you got a Dick. Oh my God, I never knew this.
So I told my doctor, listen, go light on the lipoing down there.
I like my little pudge, my little muff top.
I like it. I think it's cute.
I like I like that guys to have a little cushion there right
there on my pussy. So he's like, OK, heard when you
do the lipo and the the J plasma, it tightens all the
muscles in that area, everything.
And then you're recovering for four months.
So you're like, and girl, if I didn't train myself to do kegels
every night as I fall asleep. So now it's the only way to fall
asleep. So now that shit is like tight,
tight, tight. I can't, I can't, I can't stick
this pencil in there. It's so tight.
I should do not. I should do not.
I tried to put a tampon in. No, there was no such thing.
No. Oh God, no.
So. What's up next is I'm slowly
trying to stretch like I'm doing actual Yoni massages.
I'm stretching that that area back out and I'm going to take
some of the biggest names in the industry at the end of this
month. Hopefully, like hopefully the
scenes go through. Hopefully I'm prepared and I'm
ready. I don't want to talk about it
too much before, but so we're getting back to shooting boy
girl content this year. I also think that I'm ready to
come back and make my way into mainstream again, mainstream
porn. I took a step back to redirect
my brand. I kept being casted and MILF
rolls and I didn't feel like enough of a MILF.
I didn't feel like I identified with it.
It was hard to show up on set and have them have to like
visibly make wrinkles in my skin and and.
They're doing that now. What?
Yeah, because like the the millennials look younger than
the Gen. Z's sometime.
Oh my God. I I I don't know, the whole MILF
category is so weird to me that now they're considering like 28
MILF. I'm like.
Over 25 or anything with boobs in an ass.
And I'm sorry, I've always had boobs and ass.
It's just, you know, it, it took a while and I I didn't want to
be. Also, when you when you put
someone into that category, it shortens the lifespan of their
career. Since I want to do this for
years, I don't want to be pushed into a category too soon.
So I decided to take a step back to grow my platform.
I took a break. I dated someone, that's a whole
other thing. And now that I have a little bit
better handle on my brand image, on my footing, on my fan base, I
think I'm ready to take a step back into that hard limelight of
doing mainstream. So hopefully I'll probably be
doing some scenes with some of the larger companies this year.
Yes, well, I am very excited for you.
And also, I'm just going to send out some Fanny fairy dust your
way because, honey, if you're taking good news, yeah, we need,
we need to. It needs to be the void to open.
I mean, like, yeah. And, and this is, this is the
easy part of it because these are all my.
These are all my how do I put, OK, so when you're doing
content, because I also do mainstream, but I also do
content creation and that's really where I make most of my
money. Surprisingly, it does more, it's
more lucrative than these one a day scenes where I I get paid
for the day as an independent contractor.
These platforms, I'm making residual money forever in
perpetuity, which is wonderful. So really that's the
breadwinner. When I go back to content
creation, which is what I'm doing this month, I look at
everything I have the library of, of videos I have and I say,
OK, well, I have 40 BBCS and about 50 to 100 scenes of BBCS.
Let me look at the other categories that I have.
I don't have other categories. So I decided to go, I'm starting
with the smaller end of the scale of the things that, of the
of the people that I'm working with this year.
So if I'm going to find this challenging, it's probably going
to be even more challenging later on.
So wish me luck for that later on.
I'm going to be slave in the best of ways.
Sending all the positive vibes because honestly, I just want
I'm very excited to see what's to come of you.
I mean the body is looking, the body is body and girl, and I'm
just excited. I really, I really feel that you
are on your well weight. Like when someone said to you
like, do you feel that you've made it?
I I definitely felt what you said.
It's like you can always do more.
And I really see a lot of potential in your craft.
The way that you take care of your fans and the way that you
present yourself, even just talking to me, it would be
impossible for you not to become this big starlet.
This is what this is all about. You kind of embody all of that.
So I just want to see you thrive.
And you know, I don't want you to get too, too big.
You know it back in like in in August when you're back at Urban
X and you're going to be like, I don't know this girl.
Who that girl? We're friends now.
You, you go have my phone number.
We're going to keep in town. Anytime you're in town, you just
let me know. Oh, wait, actually, well, I'm,
I'm going to say we're not too far from each other as it is.
So yes, we'll definitely talk. So where can the people get in
touch with you? Where can they find you as we're
wrapping up? And I want to make sure people
just, you know, get, get all the Carmella.
Thank you so much guys. You can find me every morning on
coffee with clutch on my Instagram.
It's at Miss MISS Carmella Clutch.
It's the one with the little blue check mark.
Everybody else is a fake and I keep everything updated on
there, I really do. I keep a daily tab of what I'm
doing, any projects I'm working on, and any tour dates.
Any meet and greets that I'll post it there.
Awesome. There you have it guys.
I don't know about you, but I feel like we just got a whole
different side of Carmela and I don't know about you, but I'm
I'm definitely clutched. I'm clutched latching onto you.
That's it. Boom, snapped.
Thank you. You're incredible.
Thank you SO. Much.
Oh, thank you. And remember guys, you can
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