1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,800 Warning, the following program is not for the weak-hearted 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,600 those who are close minded. When General, you're scared to 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:08,700 learn. What's behind closed. 4 00:00:08,700 --> 00:00:10,800 Doors here at sapphires are play. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,800 I want you to pour the wine. Grab somebody that you want to 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,700 hold on to or better yet. Get the vibration stimulated 7 00:00:17,700 --> 00:00:19,900 through your body. Get ready for one, hell of an 8 00:00:19,900 --> 00:00:25,900 eargasm in five, four, three, two, one. 9 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:27,900 What is up? All you sexy motherfucker is out 10 00:00:27,900 --> 00:00:29,900 there in radioland. It's your girl sad. 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,300 A fire and I am so happy because first of all, first of all, for 12 00:00:35,300 --> 00:00:38,200 the earbuds who have been, you know, rocking with me. 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,200 You know, this person in particular is just near and dear 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,600 to my heart. Gosh, I could say a lot about 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,500 this person, but I'm just gonna let you talk to the person 16 00:00:48,700 --> 00:00:54,500 themselves. So everybody, everybody, Welcome 17 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:58,800 Back. Nia AKA how on the go and not 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,600 just speaking on behalf. Half of whole on the go, but 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,900 also you have been up to some really dope shit lately. 20 00:01:05,300 --> 00:01:11,700 And you are now the social sex curator for Make Love Not porn. 21 00:01:11,900 --> 00:01:15,700 And if you guys are wondering, like, damn, Make Love Not porn. 22 00:01:15,700 --> 00:01:18,100 Sounds awfully familiar. We're gonna get into it. 23 00:01:18,100 --> 00:01:22,800 So everybody earbuds monsters, wherever the hell you're 24 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,100 listening from. Welcome Nia. 25 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:29,300 Hi, thank you so much for having me again. 26 00:01:29,300 --> 00:01:31,800 It's been It's benefited. It's been a cool minute. 27 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,200 Yeah, honestly I was looking back. 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,300 I was like, damn, it's literally been almost a year. 29 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,400 No. Actually it's been a year. 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,300 It's been a year since you did two episodes with me. 31 00:01:41,300 --> 00:01:44,900 And I mean, we talk on the regular basis but we have been 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,100 super, super fucking busy lately. 33 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,500 So like I'm just glad we were able to do this but also just 34 00:01:52,500 --> 00:01:55,900 congratulations. Like honestly I think this is 35 00:01:55,900 --> 00:02:00,900 really good fit for you and I've been following you For hot mini. 36 00:02:00,900 --> 00:02:04,800 I've been following Make Love Not porn for a hot minute as 37 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,400 well. But I have to say, honestly, I 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,800 did not know as much as I thought. 39 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,300 I knew about the company until you and I started talking some 40 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:19,200 more and thank you for just on behalf of them joining my little 41 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:24,900 old platform like thank, you know, of course, you know, I 42 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:28,300 really appreciate all the all the well wishes and look at 43 00:02:28,300 --> 00:02:32,400 things. I've just been really you know, 44 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:38,000 trying to find out where my expertise expertise and a love 45 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,900 for just like sexuality and you know things like that could fit 46 00:02:42,900 --> 00:02:45,300 into like my everyday life and work. 47 00:02:45,700 --> 00:02:50,300 And I'm honestly so lucky that I was able to find a job at Make 48 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:53,000 Love Not for it. And I honestly really love what 49 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,900 I do for them. So super excited to talk about 50 00:02:55,900 --> 00:02:57,100 it. Yeah, yeah. 51 00:02:57,100 --> 00:03:01,700 So walk us through what exactly? Is As social sex curator and 52 00:03:01,700 --> 00:03:08,700 then also, what is ml&p? Yeah, so Make Love Not porn is a 53 00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:13,400 social sex website. I know a lot of people are like, 54 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,000 what is social. Mmm, I think you could think of 55 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,700 it in a couple of ways. Social sex, if we think about 56 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:23,800 sex in general, it is a social activity, right? 57 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,900 Of course, it can be done by yourself, but more times than 58 00:03:26,900 --> 00:03:29,300 not, you do have sex with other people. 59 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,100 And what is so special about Make Love Not porn, is that it 60 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:38,700 is a way for people to express their sexuality and their 61 00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:44,400 sensuality with other people in a real-life way Make Love Not 62 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,000 porn, is kind of like a social media platform where you can 63 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,200 comment on videos, you can rent videos and you can actually 64 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,800 interact with the people who are sharing their sex moments. 65 00:03:56,900 --> 00:03:59,700 I like that now. Also, I would have to say 66 00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:03,700 because right now, we have this Great Divide. 67 00:04:03,900 --> 00:04:06,100 I was just recently talking about this with another 68 00:04:06,100 --> 00:04:10,700 organization earlier this week. And there's this Great Divide 69 00:04:10,700 --> 00:04:15,700 between curated sex versus pornography. 70 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,899 And when I'm talking about is, you know, contracted folks in 71 00:04:19,899 --> 00:04:21,899 porn. So, like the big names, like 72 00:04:21,899 --> 00:04:26,300 evil angel, which I work for Playboy, even PornHub. 73 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:30,500 You know, regardless of where you stand on PornHub, that is, 74 00:04:30,500 --> 00:04:33,500 you know, they do have contracted stars but then you 75 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:39,700 have social media sites, like only fans and he'll even Make 76 00:04:39,700 --> 00:04:43,600 Love Not porn regardless, you know of what it is at the end of 77 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,400 the day, it is part of sex tag that is online. 78 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:51,000 Using the tools of social media. You have this Great Divide where 79 00:04:51,300 --> 00:04:55,200 the word pornography has become such a dirty word. 80 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,000 Yes. And I'm glad that she said that 81 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,200 because you also just reminded me. 82 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,100 I did not answer. No, no, that's fine. 83 00:05:03,100 --> 00:05:05,100 That's fine. But you know why you're making 84 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:07,100 it known? Because again, like I said, 85 00:05:07,300 --> 00:05:11,200 there's a divide I want to know and you know me I'm going to I 86 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,700 want to know the nitty-gritty. I'm not going to sugarcoat this 87 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:19,800 because you know as somebody who does work in pornography, I've 88 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,000 worked in porn as well as you know, mainstream radio my entire 89 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,800 career for 13 years. Is always like here. 90 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,100 We are in this day and age where social media has really taken 91 00:05:31,100 --> 00:05:37,000 over all platforms. Yeah, it's it's really 92 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,900 interesting especially because as someone who has done sex work 93 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:45,700 in the past, it's very interesting to see kind of like 94 00:05:45,700 --> 00:05:48,600 how sex has been pushed to the like the Forefront of 95 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,700 conversation especially when it comes to the internet and social 96 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:56,500 media. But with that being said, As a 97 00:05:56,508 --> 00:05:59,400 social sites curator my job is similar to you. 98 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:06,200 I review videos and you know it's very it's definitely never 99 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:11,000 boring. It's it's fine, it's cool. 100 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,700 But it's also very intimate and a way where one you could 101 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,700 literally. Now of course, the most of these 102 00:06:17,700 --> 00:06:19,200 people aren't strangers to me anymore. 103 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,200 But you have these strangers people that I don't know who I 104 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,700 am reviewing and you know, looking through. 105 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,500 These intimate moments like they're going to share on Make 106 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:31,900 Love Not torrents website. And with that, what we do is 107 00:06:31,900 --> 00:06:34,300 make sure, you know, all the basic stuff is in their legal 108 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:38,000 documents are in order that things are consenting and 109 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:41,900 essential making sure that people's identities and just 110 00:06:41,900 --> 00:06:43,900 like, you know, privacy is intact. 111 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,100 And then of course, just like the legalities making sure 112 00:06:47,100 --> 00:06:49,900 there's no, copyrighted audio and video, and stuff like that 113 00:06:49,900 --> 00:06:52,100 in the, in the videos that they submit to us. 114 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,500 And what I really like, Out. That is that because of the fact 115 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:02,800 that it's myself in and two other curators on the team? 116 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,000 What I really like about that is that because we are so small and 117 00:07:08,100 --> 00:07:13,300 like our team is so intimate. We are able to like really like 118 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:17,400 deep dive to make sure that what we're seeing. 119 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,800 And what we're putting out is genuine it aligns with our, you 120 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,600 know, with our company's belief systems and our values. 121 00:07:25,700 --> 00:07:27,500 Mmm. And it is like, literally 122 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:31,200 showcasing what we mean by social sites like that. 123 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,000 And also, you know, going over a year guidelines. 124 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,100 I was looking on the website so one they have the words curated 125 00:07:38,100 --> 00:07:43,500 Fair, all flavors, welcome submit your own and I love first 126 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:47,100 of all that it's all flavors because let's be honest again. 127 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:49,800 Bring it back to what I was saying before, there is a 128 00:07:49,808 --> 00:07:55,300 difference between this whole social media, socially curated 129 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,900 set. We are seeing online now versus 130 00:07:58,900 --> 00:08:01,900 pornography. I feel like, even working in 131 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:07,300 pornography, we are extremely limited on what is being shown 132 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,600 on the more larger scale? You know, why is it that trans 133 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:17,500 men and women are seen as almost like a Gonzo thing, or it's like 134 00:08:17,500 --> 00:08:24,200 a special edition in porn versus like when you're looking at 135 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:30,700 these real porn sites like even Oh my God black.com you know and 136 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:35,900 MN + ml + P. Where it's like it's everyone, 137 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,700 you know, you get all the flavors, if you will, you get 138 00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:41,600 the whole you know, sexuality salad. 139 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,100 And I wonder why there's this divide almost like, okay? 140 00:08:45,100 --> 00:08:49,700 We're in this day and age where They're queer people in the 141 00:08:49,700 --> 00:08:51,800 world having sex. Yeah. 142 00:08:52,300 --> 00:08:55,100 Why are we not having these conversations or why we only 143 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:59,500 marketing marketing, it on a larger scale during certain 144 00:08:59,500 --> 00:09:03,100 times of the year and not all year, right? 145 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:08,200 And I think that's something that's, that's really been kind 146 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,900 of more brought to my attention since I've been working with 147 00:09:10,900 --> 00:09:16,600 Make Love Not foreign. Is that mainstream porn content. 148 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:22,100 Its Just like any other you know, pop culture media you're 149 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:26,000 gonna do what is trending you're gonna go with what people like 150 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,300 what the demand is, whereas like sites like black touch or Make 151 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:33,600 Love Not porn. Want people to come as some 152 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,600 stuff and express their sexuality, in whatever way that 153 00:09:36,608 --> 00:09:40,400 is because at the end of the day, you and I both know what we 154 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,200 see in mainstream porn isn't for everyone, but you might be able 155 00:09:43,208 --> 00:09:44,900 to find it but you're gonna have to dig for it. 156 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:45,500 Right? Yeah. 157 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:49,200 I really like you're gonna have to figure Out whatever system, 158 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,300 what other, whatever algorithm, whatever words, they use to find 159 00:09:53,300 --> 00:09:54,800 that thing that you're looking for. 160 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:57,900 And that's why I really love Make Love, Not porn because you 161 00:09:57,900 --> 00:09:59,700 know, I don't know if you got a chance to look at our 162 00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:03,000 lectionary, which is like our hashtag lists. 163 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,000 They are not the same and I'm the tags that you would see on 164 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 mainstream porn. And I really appreciate that 165 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,700 because it makes it more realistic and more honest than 166 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:19,300 Tableau or like some sort of like Fetishization. 167 00:10:19,300 --> 00:10:22,600 Almost like the act of the sex itself. 168 00:10:22,900 --> 00:10:25,000 What do you call? You know? 169 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,000 The curators. Are they all carry a curators? 170 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,800 Are they actors? Are they actresses? 171 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,900 You know, again you're bringing realism back to eroticism which 172 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,600 I have to say is becoming a social boom to because again, 173 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,700 there is a divide between those who are pleasure curators versus 174 00:10:45,700 --> 00:10:49,000 pornography Stars. I think a porn star is someone 175 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:54,900 who makes about 510 other films, there aren't of the same genre, 176 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,600 you know, they're doing a plethora of films, that's what 177 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,800 makes even a Hollywood star, a Hollywood star. 178 00:11:02,100 --> 00:11:05,700 So when you having these social sex, you know, curators are they 179 00:11:05,700 --> 00:11:07,000 actors? Are they actresses? 180 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,600 What are they, what would they be categorized as? 181 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,700 Yeah. So just to clarify, so the 182 00:11:13,700 --> 00:11:17,100 social sex carriers are myself and then the other to be on my 183 00:11:17,100 --> 00:11:21,300 team. The videos and then we call the 184 00:11:21,300 --> 00:11:24,700 folks who submit videos to Make Love Not porn stars. 185 00:11:24,900 --> 00:11:30,400 So while I will also say in that same breath that we do have lots 186 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,700 of Make Love Not porn stars, who create content for other 187 00:11:33,700 --> 00:11:36,400 websites, like only fans and PornHub. 188 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:42,200 And the way that we kind of try to make sure that there's no 189 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:47,100 overlap into the content that folks, you know, produce for 190 00:11:47,100 --> 00:11:48,600 others. ER sites is that, whatever 191 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,900 videos they submit to us, are exclusive to make, love, not 192 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:55,100 born and that they're not posted anywhere else. 193 00:11:56,100 --> 00:11:58,900 Because once you do that, then it's like it kind of takes away. 194 00:11:58,900 --> 00:12:01,700 The magic of what is Make Love Not foreign, right? 195 00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:05,000 What you said you are, seeing a sense of realism, you're seeing 196 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:10,800 a sense of honesty and like real raw, Sexual Energy. 197 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,200 Being exchanged between people in a way that of course, 198 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,100 probably does exist on these other platforms. 199 00:12:17,100 --> 00:12:20,800 But Is curated specifically for our website. 200 00:12:20,900 --> 00:12:25,000 I have to say it's almost like a morality type of horn bringing 201 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,400 that the you nose in it. It's a good thing too. 202 00:12:29,500 --> 00:12:31,800 It's so interesting because right now we got these terms, 203 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:39,300 like, ethical poured and it's like in theory porn is gonna be 204 00:12:39,300 --> 00:12:41,900 ethical. If you got consenting adults 205 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,400 there there by their, uh, you know, their own volition, 206 00:12:44,500 --> 00:12:45,800 they're doing the things that they want to do. 207 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,700 They have autonomy over their own ADI. 208 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,800 However, I think what the key word here is, it's not the 209 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,300 ethical part, it's the pornography part porn is 210 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:57,600 different than a homemade sex video, right? 211 00:12:57,900 --> 00:13:00,800 Like it's you decided you know what, we're having a good time. 212 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,400 We're having fun. I think we should film this and 213 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,700 that's what you do porn is like, we're hiring these people. 214 00:13:06,900 --> 00:13:09,800 They're getting paid. This is what we want to see. 215 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,200 You might have little bit of creative Direction but in 216 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,500 reality it's like the director came in and told you this is 217 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:16,800 what we're filming. Is that what you're cool with 218 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,400 great? So much for paying you out for 219 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,200 this team, not to mention, they're not minding their p's 220 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,700 and q's when certain terms are thrown into context. 221 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,600 Sure there might be a socially Scott, you know, construct of 222 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:37,000 the title but let's be real. I'm editing movies that are fist 223 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:43,400 her ass pound this bitch, you know, All-Star tranny, you know, 224 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:47,200 all these degrading terms versus the clips that I see. 225 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:53,100 See which are you know, lovemaking there isn't you know, 226 00:13:53,100 --> 00:13:57,500 a I did not briefly, I only saw a couple because, you know, you 227 00:13:57,500 --> 00:14:02,000 have to pay to play but there are some of the titles where I 228 00:14:02,008 --> 00:14:05,100 don't see anything of ebony. Uh-huh. 229 00:14:05,300 --> 00:14:11,200 I don't see Asian. I don't see those types of 230 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,800 breakdowns where their stereotypical, and I love that. 231 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,700 It is. That's one of the things that I 232 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:25,800 think is really also helpful because I think that while all 233 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,600 those things, of course, exists on, Make Love Not horns website. 234 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:34,100 It's not the main attractor of what is going to break somebody 235 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:37,500 to watch the video. Of course, we have, like, a 236 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:40,900 bunch of different times for that, like, you know, American 237 00:14:40,900 --> 00:14:46,200 European black but of course we want people. 238 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,000 Able to put whatever they feel comfortable sharing and 239 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,400 identifying in those in those videos and there's sometimes 240 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,600 videos where we tag them and all we'll put is just like the act 241 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:02,100 and maybe how they filmed it. Like mmh HD or 4K like iPhone, 242 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:05,400 you know, like it's we want people to come for the content. 243 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,400 Not necessarily the person, of course people have their 244 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,400 favorites and people that they go to watch their videos often 245 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,400 but we want people to actually enjoy the act and what is 246 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,400 happening or what's Shared and not so much like the descriptors 247 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,500 are like and what have you seen? Like you said, I have seen some 248 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:29,700 people who were former Talent Danny wild I believe he's a 249 00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:32,500 director with you guys or an actor. 250 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:35,100 I Make Love Not porn star. Yeah. 251 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:38,000 Yes. So you know I noticed that he 252 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 was like, you know, front and center is like wait a second. 253 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,700 I remember him from doing some very extreme stuff but also he 254 00:15:44,700 --> 00:15:48,600 started going into the The ethical porn side, and I think 255 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,800 he's been ill not side for now. Almost 10 years at this point, 256 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,500 which is very interesting. So, I do love how there is, you 257 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:59,800 know, the former and the latter of sex workers. 258 00:15:59,900 --> 00:16:02,600 I do love how this is becoming a safe space. 259 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,500 Would you say this is also like a stepping stone for the couples 260 00:16:06,500 --> 00:16:10,100 or the individuals out there who have never really consumed porn? 261 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:13,400 You know, now that they want to get into erotica because I don't 262 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:18,400 want to again mistake. Your Say, for being porn, but 263 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,100 for seeking adult content, adult entertainment because that's 264 00:16:22,100 --> 00:16:24,600 what it is. But if they are seeking a more, 265 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,600 you know, erotic approach, would you say that this is like the 266 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,200 stepping stone for people to get their feet wet into adult 267 00:16:32,300 --> 00:16:36,800 eroticism? You know, I think yes. 268 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:44,800 And no, I think, what's one of the things that I will say is 269 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:50,200 that with Make Love Not War. Born it is a good place for 270 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:57,300 people to discover themselves. I think we've heard a lot even 271 00:16:57,300 --> 00:17:03,200 talked about how a lot of people who were trying to embrace and 272 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,599 come in so their sexuality and be comfortable in their 273 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:10,599 sexuality and up going to only fans and I think we can even see 274 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:14,200 that with only fans specifically now because you know only fence 275 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:19,300 been around for a while but Even only fans now is having the same 276 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:23,000 type of - downturn like corn is where people. 277 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,099 If someone says only fans, the first thing that somebody has to 278 00:17:26,099 --> 00:17:29,500 say about it is usually - like it's never in a positive light. 279 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,800 And I think What Make Love Not corn, does a great job of doing 280 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,000 is making sure that we kind of stay on in this like positive. 281 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:43,100 This very sex-positive space of exploring and understanding 282 00:17:43,900 --> 00:17:47,800 sexuality as in regards to Well for like, you know, with your 283 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,900 partners. Hmm and yeah we just like we 284 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:55,200 really try to maintain that like conversation of sex positivity 285 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,300 throughout. I'm chuckling because I'm 286 00:17:57,300 --> 00:17:59,300 actually looking at the directory. 287 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,800 I wanted to share some of these titles. 288 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,600 Okay. One bendy talking about the 289 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,900 flexibility, drink responsibly. Now, first of all, I have to say 290 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:14,900 thank you for this because one folks, believe it or not, have 291 00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:18,700 becoming more are becoming More sober and I was reading an 292 00:18:18,700 --> 00:18:21,300 article, I can't. I cannot remember if it was the 293 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:27,200 Mashable, Vice one of the more socially aware blogs, but they 294 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,500 were talking about was with, you know, folks becoming more sober 295 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:33,600 and dry. They also found a very 296 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:39,500 triggering for adult content to have alcoholic consumption or we 297 00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:45,200 conception without a label on it and yeah, so I find it great 298 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,300 that. Now we have We have a drink 299 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:51,200 responsibly, and I think all porn sites or all erotic sites. 300 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,100 Should have those type of trigger warnings because there's 301 00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:58,500 a shift there, such if now that people are becoming of a dry 302 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:01,400 sober life, where they can even view that. 303 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,000 Portrayal on screen, not to mention. 304 00:19:05,300 --> 00:19:09,000 Drinking responsibly cannot consent when you're not drinking 305 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,300 responsibly so it's great that events. 306 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,900 Thank you. Yeah. 307 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:23,100 Vibrato I'm sorry bringing karaoke skills to the bedroom in 308 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:28,000 these videos. Oh man. 309 00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:31,400 Oh my goodness, that's a great. I love this. 310 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,800 No, it's perfect. Y'all have to check this out. 311 00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:38,100 Rope Alicia's. Don't move where you're being 312 00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:40,200 restrained. So close. 313 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,200 So, talking about edging, I like that. 314 00:19:43,300 --> 00:19:45,500 Oh my God, but I love it. I love it. 315 00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:46,800 It's something. Has more safe. 316 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,400 So again, you were saying that no, you wouldn't recommend this 317 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,300 as a stepping stone. Why would she not recommend it 318 00:19:52,300 --> 00:19:56,700 as a stepping stone? I think a lot of times which we 319 00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:59,700 often see when folks are like coming to us and they ask us 320 00:19:59,700 --> 00:20:01,500 questions. One of the first questions is, 321 00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:03,200 how can I make money on your website? 322 00:20:03,300 --> 00:20:08,600 Mmm, and we, of course, people can make money off of the videos 323 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:13,100 and it might not necessarily people see people's, you know, 324 00:20:13,100 --> 00:20:15,400 main source of income. But yes, you can make money from 325 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,600 Make Love Not War. He owes. 326 00:20:17,700 --> 00:20:21,200 However, our website is not intended for people to 327 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,600 exclusively, make money that already. 328 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,100 Kind of tells us the mindset of where people might be. 329 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:30,900 If the only thought of you producing any type of sexual 330 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:36,000 content or erotic content is for you to make money off of it, so 331 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,400 your wedding for these curators. Yes, we want. 332 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,500 We are. Yeah, as curators one of our 333 00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:46,600 jobs is to scream. Screen. 334 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:52,800 Sorry, you as the curator again. Yeah, as we are, we are there to 335 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,700 kind of screen, folks, intentions. 336 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,100 And then also, when we're like watching these videos where 337 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,800 we're looking, as we, you know, we watch it from start to 338 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:04,700 finish. Hmm. 339 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,600 So we're seeing how these videos are kind of made, right? 340 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,400 Because you can definitely tell the difference as I'm sure most 341 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,700 of us can when you're watching a video where someone Is kind of 342 00:21:16,700 --> 00:21:20,700 doing it for performance rather than actually like enjoying it 343 00:21:20,700 --> 00:21:22,800 and actually getting pleasure from what like what they're 344 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,900 doing and so we've had you know we projected videos like we 345 00:21:27,900 --> 00:21:30,100 don't just put anything on there and I've had many times where 346 00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:33,800 I'm like this video looks great. It's beautiful but it looks like 347 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,700 it was specifically produced for you know something else, you 348 00:21:38,700 --> 00:21:41,100 know thank you for clarifying because I was going to ask, you 349 00:21:41,108 --> 00:21:46,000 know, are those guidelines because again you are not 350 00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:48,300 Driving on making pornographic content. 351 00:21:48,700 --> 00:21:53,200 You are thriving on making real narrative, narrator ISM 352 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,700 narrative narratives to you know the content that's being made. 353 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:01,300 So this is a loving content site. 354 00:22:01,300 --> 00:22:04,700 This is not a porn site once again, and I'm going to keep 355 00:22:04,700 --> 00:22:07,800 reiterating this because I want people to understand that there 356 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,400 is a difference. Hmm, you are not bringing 357 00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:18,200 fantasy to content, right? And And again like you know we 358 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:25,000 also can't tell someone what is real world sex to that, right? 359 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,700 We're not that person. And that's again. 360 00:22:27,700 --> 00:22:29,500 Why? I really love Make Love Not 361 00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:32,500 foreign is because if we do get a video that we're like, you 362 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:35,400 know, this might be, like, bordering on the line of like, 363 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,900 maybe more like porn. Hmm. 364 00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:41,300 The, I will email the person directly and be like, hey, can 365 00:22:41,300 --> 00:22:44,000 you send us a video of you kind of talking and just explaining 366 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,900 like the inspiration for your filming? 367 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:49,900 Spit like this video submission and usually we'll get some a 368 00:22:49,900 --> 00:22:51,500 club not porn stars. So just kind of give like a 369 00:22:51,508 --> 00:22:54,600 brief like 1 minute 2 minute video in the intro. 370 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,700 That's just like, hey, you know, I or me and my partner, we're 371 00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:01,800 just really feeling spicy. And we wanted to, like, maybe do 372 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,000 a little role play or like, you know, we were inspired by this 373 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,000 movie, we watched and we wanted to try that out. 374 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,400 And this is what we do came of it and just, that little 375 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,600 explanation gives us that context to be like, hey, you 376 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,000 know what, I can see how this is real world sex for you. 377 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,100 I would love to share that that expression of real-world sex on 378 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:21,300 our website. Okay, so speaking of the real 379 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:25,000 world sex is, I do see, you know, you do have clearly it 380 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,900 kinky tag weight through. So again bringing it back into 381 00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:34,900 the pornographic side of Kink BDSM you have pet play, you 382 00:23:34,908 --> 00:23:38,500 know, with pup and you know, then you have the borderline 383 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:43,900 cosplay into furry is MM, you know, into FreePlay Do You 384 00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:47,700 exclude those because again, those can be Be conceptualized 385 00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:54,100 as Kink Fetish Fantasy. But too many folks in the king 386 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:58,900 spaces that is there a real life, that's what they they do. 387 00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:02,200 Day in and day out. They are service bottoms. 388 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,300 They are real furries day in and day out, they are about, you 389 00:24:07,300 --> 00:24:12,600 know, being in cages in pup Play 24/7, some, like, believe it or 390 00:24:12,608 --> 00:24:15,200 not, y'all. You might think I'm bullshitting 391 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,000 you and saying like, There are people who work 24/7 as this but 392 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:25,200 there are, so just your site offer that or is that one of the 393 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,300 things that are like, no, we have to put that out of the real 394 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:32,600 world context. Play know, we have, we have 395 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,500 many, the assignment Kink videos on our website. 396 00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:40,200 We've got folks doing rope. We've got folks doing impact 397 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,200 play. I've seen videos with wax play. 398 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,300 I've seen videos As with folks who wear diapers, like, okay, 399 00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:51,900 I've got, we've got caught anything, you're looking for 400 00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:56,200 more than likely, we do have. And I think that's what's really 401 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,300 awesome. And I think something that you 402 00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:01,700 will appreciate, is that we actually have a lot of poly am 403 00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:06,100 folks on our site. And so it's really cool because 404 00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:08,400 not only are folks sharing their real-world sex with us. 405 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,900 They're also sharing their relationships with us and 406 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,600 they're like, oh, you know, my partner came from out of town 407 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,600 and this is like we decided to, you know, Record something or 408 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,300 you know, where long distance and this is what it's like for 409 00:25:20,300 --> 00:25:22,600 us. And I think it's really awesome 410 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,900 because that's where the social aspect comes in where we're 411 00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:27,100 sharing more than just the sex, we're sharing the story. 412 00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:30,700 We're sharing the relationships that people also have in these 413 00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:34,000 videos. I got a little Fanny flutter, if 414 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,800 y'all know what if Annie flutter is look that shit up, I love 415 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,200 that. I absolutely love that. 416 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,500 What do you think the future of Make Love Not porn is going 417 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,100 Honestly, as much as I want to be like, Make Love Not porn. 418 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:53,600 Is about to like bust it up and they are about to bust it up. 419 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:59,000 Like we are making so much progress, you know, our CEO 420 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,600 Cindy, Gallup does a lot of podcasts and talks. 421 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,000 And I feel like every almost at this point, every week, 422 00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:09,500 something resurfaces of something that she says. 423 00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:11,700 And it just like it gives me that, like, glimmer of like, 424 00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:13,200 okay, yes, people are still listening. 425 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,100 They want to see where they want to hear more and I still see 426 00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:20,300 though that like we are still stuck in the shadows as you 427 00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:24,500 would say of like this like sex tech space, the space of being 428 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,900 put in the same category as born or like something, that is not 429 00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:34,300 as curated and specified. So this degree and it makes me a 430 00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:36,600 little bit upset, you know, we have a lot of setbacks with 431 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,600 censorship especially on the internet and social media and 432 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,900 even just like General advertising like, on, you know, 433 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:51,800 via email or Things like that and I think it's unfair because 434 00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:55,300 like I said before this is more than just the sex aspect, it's 435 00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:58,900 the social aspect like people are able to connect with other 436 00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:03,700 like-minded individuals who are also sexually liberated who are 437 00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:06,200 also a part of this like sexual Revolution that we're seeing 438 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,400 right now when it comes to expressing your sexuality, in 439 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:15,400 the social way, people are much more comfortable now than 440 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,500 previous generations. Generations with being like yeah 441 00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:20,300 I make it on the internet and there's like probably a million 442 00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:21,700 other people who are naked on the internet. 443 00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:24,600 So what about it? And I think that's what makes 444 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,500 Make Love. Not born. 445 00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:28,600 So awesome is because it's like yeah people are able to do that 446 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,000 without the fear of being judged because you can still have your 447 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,200 anonymity. You can still produce this this, 448 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,900 you know, sexual content, and sensual content without people 449 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,900 feeling pressured, to almost like advertise themselves. 450 00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:52,900 Or commodify even their sex. Speaking of Sydney, Gallup, one 451 00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:58,500 of my favorite quotes that I found of hers is this, our 452 00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,500 parents bring us up to have good manners. 453 00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:05,300 A work ethic that sense of responsibility accountability, 454 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:11,100 nobody ever brings up to behave. Well, in bed, they should 455 00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:15,800 because in bed values, like empathy, sensitivity generosity, 456 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,600 kindness and honesty are as important as they are in. 457 00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:24,100 Every other area of Our Lives where we're actively taught to 458 00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:29,600 exercise those values and he's absolutely right. 459 00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:35,000 I mean, again we've talked about this so many times before with 460 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,600 me being a sex educator, a community health educator. 461 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:44,000 How even speaking with adults, the lack of sexual knowledge is 462 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:50,400 very scary, not to mention the way that the claim is Is sex 463 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,500 knowledge is through pornography, right? 464 00:28:54,600 --> 00:29:01,800 And again, it's fair to say that the majority of us have received 465 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,800 our sexual knowledge, and our, our sexual literacy through 466 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,100 pornography or in or you know, sex on the internet and say 467 00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:14,200 perform or just sex on TV on TV. Yeah. 468 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,300 Through media and I think what makes Make Love Not the corn 469 00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:21,500 soy. Some again it's just not the way 470 00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:25,100 that we have these videos, curated, and even the videos 471 00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:30,300 that we see coming through our educational, like we had a video 472 00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:33,200 about how to properly choke your partner. 473 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,500 We've had a video on how to properly, you know, go through 474 00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:41,400 consent and communicate with your partner, before a scene 475 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,500 that involves rope or impacts play. 476 00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:47,900 We've even had folks talk about having HSV and ways to have sex 477 00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:49,400 with your partner during a flare up. 478 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,000 Like, this is information that is super useful to everyone. 479 00:29:54,500 --> 00:30:00,700 And unfortunately, because of the fact that whole corn is the 480 00:30:00,708 --> 00:30:04,800 way that it is Does that content exists? 481 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,100 It probably does, but it's not what people are out there 482 00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:09,500 looking for know, not what people are. 483 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,800 Yeah, it's not what people are are searching for because that's 484 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,000 not what's considered to be sexy, or I was just about to 485 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,900 say, because like the fact of the matter is, as so many people 486 00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:27,600 have told me over the years. As I, you know, you don't with, 487 00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:31,900 with age, I get more mature, you know, some people have told me 488 00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:34,500 was that after No, it's a fire zoo plays. 489 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:38,800 Not like how you used to be and I'm like white careless, you 490 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,200 know, it folk it was driven on sexual edutainment but it became 491 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,200 more sexual and less educated and more entertainment, you 492 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,700 know, like it became too repetitive and that's not me, 493 00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:58,100 you know, through my sex cautionary tales, if you will, I 494 00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:01,400 was trying to educate y'all. I'm saying, like don't be like 495 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,200 me. And doing all these 496 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,000 non-consensual things, or questionable things, that where 497 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,500 I had a question my own morality is, I've never, you know, 498 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:15,600 regretted anything and sex. But there are some things where 499 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,500 I look back and I'm like, oh, I shouldn't have done that. 500 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:27,600 You know, I could have sold been a ho and not put myself in a 501 00:31:27,608 --> 00:31:32,400 questionable situation or a dangerous situation. 502 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,600 My narrative didn't have to go in that route per se. 503 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,700 So I would like to see that more in adult entertainment. 504 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:44,800 That's what adult entertainment is. 505 00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:49,700 Adults, will be an adult responsible adults? 506 00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:51,500 No. Absolutely. 507 00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:58,000 And you know, that's how I do my education, as also, through 508 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,600 personal experience which again in turn, makes it a social 509 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,200 Experience. I am not alone and these 510 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:12,700 experiences every time that I share a hotel or, you know, a 511 00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:14,900 dating experience or a sexual experience. 512 00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:18,600 I have all the people that are following along or like are 513 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,000 hearing these. Things are like, oh my gosh, 514 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,900 that is happened to me. Brian, no one has ever seen, you 515 00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:26,300 know, maybe outwardly shared these things because maybe they 516 00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:28,600 found shames, maybe they felt embarrassed, maybe they thought 517 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,600 they were the only one who's experiencing things and didn't 518 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,100 want to seem like You know, maybe the odd man out, but it's 519 00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:39,500 when you put the social context back in two sec's and even sex 520 00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:42,100 education, sex, I always say the sex. 521 00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:44,500 Education is a lifelong learning process. 522 00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:46,900 It doesn't stop waited to have your. 523 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:48,900 Yeah. It is always evolving. 524 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,000 That's why I'm right. I am. 525 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,700 So I'm so deeply rooted and I truly truly, honestly believe 526 00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:57,600 because this is the way that I was brought up when people ask 527 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,500 me like, you know, when did your parents talk to you about sex, 528 00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:02,800 then I said through various stages. 529 00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:07,500 Growing up. That's the way sex education 530 00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:10,400 should be because sex is ever so evolving. 531 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,900 There's things that my parents I had to teach about my own 532 00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:18,500 sexuality and my own sexual preference to be like, no, dad, 533 00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:25,000 you can't not acknowledge that you are teaching and coaching 534 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,000 non-binary and trans kids. They know exactly who the fuck 535 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,400 they are. We didn't understand that, 20 536 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,600 30, 40 60 years ago, right? We're understanding it now, 537 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,200 right? And with that we are evolving 538 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,100 where sex is now. So widespread use the internet 539 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:50,800 and social media that we can't help but have to have these 540 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,500 conversations, right? Because you know, I've been 541 00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:59,300 watching the new documentary series generation born, which is 542 00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:02,300 on Discovery plus and Cindy makes them Hearing some talks 543 00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:04,000 about Make Love Not born on there. 544 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,800 And, you know, one of the things that they had mentioned was how 545 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,400 Twitter while it isn't considered a porn site is one of 546 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:18,000 the largest social platforms that has sexual content on it. 547 00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:20,900 A not, just anyone can access that. 548 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,500 Yeah, anybody can access that you don't have to be 18 to be 549 00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:28,300 able to access Twitter, still with just a few teeny clicks. 550 00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:31,100 You can be on Twitter and I'm, you know, back in the tumbler 551 00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:32,199 Daisy. Was Tumblr. 552 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:35,100 You know, the humbler and you can see sexual content on Tumblr 553 00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:37,199 as well. It's like these things need to 554 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,500 have like these conversations need to be happening and should 555 00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:43,900 have been happening because as the internet continues to grow 556 00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:46,300 and expand. And now we're starting to, you 557 00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:50,600 know, even more so mix, the real world to the virtual world sex 558 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,100 is going to keep changing. And we're going to have to keep 559 00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:56,400 up that I am wearing had to learn about the terminologies. 560 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,300 We got to learn about the fact that what we saw even five years 561 00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:05,900 ago, Is not socially acceptable. Now. 562 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,800 It's like there's a reason why when I'm accusing porn. 563 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,300 And I keep telling people like, listen, there's a reason why I 564 00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:19,600 have to cut out the shit. The piss, the fisting, why I 565 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,600 have to talk about how big an asshole can gate, or you know, 566 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:30,000 whether or not this terminology is safe for television, there 567 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,200 are some ethics important. People don't understand. 568 00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:38,100 There is, you know, control at hand with 225 sevens. 569 00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:41,700 As I keep advocating for people, if you say that, you are a porn 570 00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:45,000 star, or if you're saying that, you make adult entertainment for 571 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,800 a living and you don't know what a 2257 is. 572 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:53,100 Please stop saying that, you're an adult content creator, right? 573 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:58,700 And then again this kind of goes back into the the whole like 574 00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,100 anyone can make sexual content, right? 575 00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:06,400 Because we've Only fans and fans lie and you know, many, many 576 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,300 many. Yeah, folks are posting content. 577 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:12,000 Now, you don't need to have 2257. 578 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,100 So do that you could just be anybody and post those things on 579 00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:16,500 there. But that doesn't give you those 580 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:21,100 protections that you need. It doesn't give you for a lack 581 00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:23,100 of better term. That like that safety, that 582 00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:28,700 Belinda t as like a porn actor. It's really important, right? 583 00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:31,500 Because like you are putting your most vulnerable. 584 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,900 Self, when you are producing any type of sexual content, whether 585 00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:41,100 it be, you know, erotica like, you know, voice voice, the 586 00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:45,500 radhika, or video, or even just photos, like, you really have to 587 00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:47,900 protect yourself now, especially, because of how the 588 00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:50,300 internet is basically, as wild wild west. 589 00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:54,200 You don't know what what can happen, where things go where 590 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,900 they end up like yeah it's unregulated very unregulated 591 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:05,400 speed more regulation where The line That Make Love Not porn. 592 00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:08,400 Crosses, are there any lines? Where a protection? 593 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,100 Where people need to maybe reconsider? 594 00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:16,800 Because when people say, like, how do I get into born or how do 595 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,400 I get into, you know, adult entertainment? 596 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,700 I always tell them, like, first of all, you got to understand, 597 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,000 once you have it on the internet and is not on your control. 598 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,900 Is there for life? It gets replicated. 599 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,700 I've been seeing, you know, movies that I've edited in the 600 00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:43,300 past like week within the next day or on 56c porn freehub 601 00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:49,600 sites. Yeah, with Make Love, Not 602 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,100 pouring. Like I mentioned earlier, you 603 00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:55,800 know, we make we like specify that the concept of the video is 604 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,900 being submitted to us, are only made for our website. 605 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,500 And that's actually a question that we get often. 606 00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:03,400 Whew. It's like how can I kind of 607 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,200 maintain my anonymity? How can I protect myself while 608 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,100 also submitting videos to the site? 609 00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:12,400 You know we got folks who you know, maybe might film from the 610 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,100 neck down or just, you know, very specific areas where they 611 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,300 can't be identified. We have folks who wear masks, we 612 00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:24,700 have folks to blur out their faces, you know, doing music 613 00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:26,900 over the voices. So no one can hear you that kind 614 00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:29,700 of thing. And then also we have those 615 00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:33,300 Protections in place where our videos can Not be, you know, 616 00:38:33,300 --> 00:38:37,600 recorded and replicated. And we make sure that we, of 617 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,900 course, folks have to make this decision. 618 00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:40,900 This is a decision. You have to make on your own 619 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,900 just about that, that that one little piece of the back like, 620 00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:47,600 you know, just if you're putting anything on the internet, just 621 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:53,000 know things on the internet are there but we also fully respect 622 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,900 or Make Love Not porn stars and if one of them is like, you 623 00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:58,200 know, I don't think I want my videos up anymore. 624 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,400 I want to take them down, we will take them down. 625 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,900 I was just about to ask you. You know, allow videos to be 626 00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:07,100 taking down because I know sometimes, once it's out there, 627 00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:10,000 it's out there. And again, it's like, if you do 628 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,900 not have a strong, hold on, duplication, you may think it's 629 00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:19,400 like deleted everywhere, but I've seen episodes of sapphires 630 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,900 are played that, I deleted on my host sites but you know, this is 631 00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:27,600 distributed on other. You know, third fourth party, 632 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,500 that things where we were like, hey, I need you to remove that 633 00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:31,900 episode and I'm like, well, Well. 634 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,900 It's deleted from my main but I cannot go out to the other sites 635 00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:40,300 that already have it Paper. Trails with paper trail. 636 00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:42,200 That's it. Unfortunately. 637 00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:46,900 Yeah. So you know, we're really quick 638 00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:51,800 about that and we want folks to be autonomous and have their 639 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,600 privacy and we respect that for our members and our Make Love 640 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,500 Not porn stars. So as soon as they ask or 641 00:39:57,500 --> 00:40:00,900 request for their information to be removed from our site or 642 00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:03,400 their videos to be taken down, we do that immediately. 643 00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:05,900 No questions asked. And yeah. 644 00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:08,400 Like I said, folks are welcome to come back if they, if they 645 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,500 like, of course, we always welcome back and we're sad when 646 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,600 they leave. But, you know, we That people 647 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,400 just like anything else in life. People have different seasons 648 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,100 and different you know, needs and things that they have to 649 00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:23,900 prioritize. And we're always around whatever 650 00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:25,400 they're ready. I love that. 651 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,500 I love that. Well, oh my goodness. 652 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,500 You know Nya, thank you. First and foremost for speaking 653 00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:33,000 on behalf of Make Love Not porn. Thank you. 654 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:38,000 Making love not porn for, you know, just giving me, you know, 655 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,600 my person over here. 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We need it through all lenses so 669 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:34,000 thank you for giving people as space to freely you know 670 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,600 sexually explore through social commentary so thank you for 671 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,000 that. Thank you, thank you. 672 00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:44,600 So if you know folks want to get in touch with you Sir, Make Love 673 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,000 Not porn or you yourself directly. 674 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,500 Where can they get in touch? Yes, you can follow us on 675 00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:56,500 Instagram and Twitter. We are at Make Love Not porn and 676 00:41:56,500 --> 00:41:58,700 please feel free to check out our website as well. 677 00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:03,200 Make Love Not porn dot TV. 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