1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,800 Warning, the following program is not for the weak-hearted. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,900 Those were closed minded when General you're scared to learn. 3 00:00:07,900 --> 00:00:10,400 What's behind closed. Doors here at sapphires are 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,400 clay. I want you to pour the wine. 5 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:15,800 Grab somebody that you want to hold onto or better yet. 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,500 Get the vibration stimulated through your body. 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,800 Get ready for one, hell of an eargasm in five, four, three, 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,300 two, one, what is up? All you sexy motherfuckers out 9 00:00:28,300 --> 00:00:32,100 there in radioland it sugar. L, Sapphire another episode of 10 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:37,200 sapphires are play. And let me just tell you, I am 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,300 falling in love, just with my guests already. 12 00:00:39,500 --> 00:00:42,800 Her beauty her Essence. And I just love the confidence 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,200 that she shares, especially on social media, especially in such 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,100 a trivial time. As we have talked about on 15 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:54,000 sapphires, are play loads of time talking about war on Sykes 16 00:00:54,100 --> 00:00:59,400 talking about how women and women who exceed exude more, 17 00:01:00,500 --> 00:01:03,900 Sometimes find themselves silence for no, absolute reason. 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,200 So, without further Ado, I'd like to introduce you to my very 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,100 special guest. Today, Isabel no Isabel Miller, 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,100 look at me, I'm already stumbling over my words. 21 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:18,700 Beautiful women stumble over the words Isabel Miller and 22 00:01:18,700 --> 00:01:22,100 ambitious model content creator and she's an influencer based 23 00:01:22,100 --> 00:01:23,700 right here in La, which is awesome. 24 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,900 And gosh, I love how your people even told me they're like, 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,600 you're not just, A model or talented content recreator, but 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,300 you also, like, to share on your platform personal experiences. 27 00:01:36,500 --> 00:01:39,300 Give an intimate look on to your life, which is very much 28 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:41,700 appreciative and we can get into that as well. 29 00:01:41,900 --> 00:01:45,400 So Isabel, thank you so much. Welcome, welcome. 30 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:55,100 Welcome to the show. Well, thank you so much for 31 00:01:55,100 --> 00:01:58,600 standing ovation and wonderful introduction. 32 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,600 You are so welcome. Thank you so much for taking 33 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,500 time out of your day to be here. So I mean, goodness, there's so 34 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:08,500 much that we could talk about is, well, let's first talk about 35 00:02:08,500 --> 00:02:11,700 your journey. Who are you like, where are you 36 00:02:11,700 --> 00:02:15,400 going with everything that you do influencing, especially 37 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,500 because I feel like when we hear the word influencer, it becomes 38 00:02:19,500 --> 00:02:23,300 such a negative word now. So how are you? 39 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,200 Especially, you know, coming on, sapphires are play talking about 40 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,900 sexuality. How do you use influencing and 41 00:02:31,900 --> 00:02:35,000 sexuality and turn it into a positive thing? 42 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:40,800 Especially for women. Well, thank you for asking the 43 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:46,700 question and good question. I am, I think everything kind of 44 00:02:46,708 --> 00:02:50,900 like felt very naturally to me, I started out modeling in New 45 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:55,000 York with a friend of mine. And we'll always take this 46 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,900 really gorgeous. Lingerie nude semi-nude pictures 47 00:02:59,300 --> 00:03:02,100 and one day we didn't realize that hey, there's a market out 48 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:07,700 there to capitalize on that image and easiest way for me to 49 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:11,000 grow on social media at the time was Twitter. 50 00:03:11,300 --> 00:03:14,400 I tried Instagram but I didn't get it that much at the time. 51 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,200 So I was like you know what? Twitter comes easy for me. 52 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,000 Just a lot less censorship. I can put whatever I want there 53 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:23,700 and it also has a really big mellow Again. 54 00:03:23,700 --> 00:03:28,700 So that was like a perfect combination to really expand my 55 00:03:28,700 --> 00:03:33,300 image there without, as many restrictions and also, we fought 56 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:37,100 as many comparison and beauty standards because I remember 57 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:41,100 Instagram back, then if you are not like a super Top Model with 58 00:03:41,300 --> 00:03:45,100 ridiculously Photoshop body or, you know, let's be honest here, 59 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:49,900 lighter, skin tone. People were not merely checking 60 00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:52,600 for you like that. You didn't change that much 61 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,700 today, but at least today, I definitely see more of a 62 00:03:55,700 --> 00:03:59,000 diversity, which I love. And so, yeah, it started out on 63 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,700 Twitter and then from bears, pandemic came, only friends blew 64 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:04,000 up. And I was like, you know what, 65 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,200 this is my chance to, you know, really run it out of the park. 66 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:13,200 So I did that. I also blew up on Instagram and 67 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,899 today both combined platforms are like almost at a million for 68 00:04:17,899 --> 00:04:21,800 like Instagram and Twitter, which is honestly fantastic. 69 00:04:21,899 --> 00:04:26,200 I didn't expect it to lie. Road is fast honestly and I am 70 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,000 really grateful for a journey that I have so far. 71 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:34,200 And when it comes to influencing is also something that came 72 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,400 along, because I realize, hey, I wearing very beautiful laundry 73 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,400 that people ask me about all the time. 74 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,900 Why not start? You know, partnering is a brand. 75 00:04:43,900 --> 00:04:46,100 So that's where I'm heading right now. 76 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,300 Partnering with more Brands lingerie swimwear and coming 77 00:04:51,300 --> 00:04:55,900 soon, Fashion Beauty. Tea and move forward from there 78 00:04:56,100 --> 00:05:01,000 because I always love you, no posing for pictures, modeling 79 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,800 really, sharing the beauty of what I'm wearing. 80 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:06,700 And it's a lot of people out there who love it and I love it 81 00:05:06,700 --> 00:05:08,300 myself. When I see something beautiful, 82 00:05:08,300 --> 00:05:13,700 another woman, I'm like added to the bag, I love that it also 83 00:05:13,700 --> 00:05:18,200 again, it's beautiful to know that you've embraced and notice 84 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,400 inside, you know, like I'm banking on my body, I feel like 85 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,200 a lot of women, especially in this. 86 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:26,500 You know, day and age, where let's face it. 87 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,700 You know, we got the city girl era, we've had the little Kim 88 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:33,500 are a and especially in hip-hop. It's like we know the sex sells, 89 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,700 but it feels like now that there is this whole disconnect between 90 00:05:39,100 --> 00:05:41,800 women who want to sell their bodies, and then the women, who 91 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,400 shunned, the women who want to sell their bodies and marketing 92 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:51,100 in any way, possible Very true. I think, is this eternal game of 93 00:05:51,100 --> 00:05:53,800 cat and mouse that has been happening for centuries. 94 00:05:54,100 --> 00:05:58,500 If not Millennia, T, societal whore versus Madonna? 95 00:05:58,500 --> 00:06:02,100 Complex of okay. You can kind of like, tiptoe 96 00:06:02,100 --> 00:06:05,200 around selling sex, but you can't actually sell it. 97 00:06:05,300 --> 00:06:07,900 Hmm. Oh, my God. 98 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,600 Point there, because, especially, and maybe you feel 99 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,300 the same way. Do you feel that especially with 100 00:06:14,300 --> 00:06:16,900 the era of only fans? And I've definitely talked about 101 00:06:16,900 --> 00:06:21,400 this How you know, we did see a rise in content creating when it 102 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:26,900 came to adult more lingerie fetish, you know, body image. 103 00:06:26,900 --> 00:06:30,200 If you will sex selling and women just, you know, left and 104 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,800 right. And like I'm going to create an 105 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:32,900 only fans. I'm gonna be there. 106 00:06:32,900 --> 00:06:36,200 So I'm gonna be that, but don't call it porn, don't call it 107 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,900 porn. Don't call it erotica. 108 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:43,700 Just call it adult modeling. And I'm like, um, that's all in 109 00:06:43,700 --> 00:06:46,700 the same umbrella. Why is it such a negative word 110 00:06:46,700 --> 00:06:49,300 for you? Would you say if someone says, 111 00:06:49,300 --> 00:06:52,500 oh, she sells porn clips? Or she sells body Clips, she 112 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:57,000 must be an adult star. Do you get just like do you feel 113 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,700 like a disconnect? Do you correct? 114 00:06:58,700 --> 00:07:02,400 People like where would you say you classify yourself on that. 115 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,700 When people ask you, that's actually a great question from 116 00:07:05,700 --> 00:07:09,200 that standpoint. I understand both sides because 117 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,100 all tend to automatically categorize only fans us porn 118 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:15,400 while it's really not always the case. 119 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:18,400 So I always like to give freedom to people able to classify some 120 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,600 self, however, the desire to classify themselves as and at 121 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,000 the end of the day semantics are semantics because if somebody 122 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,900 sells clips of God knows what and they're like, well I'm not a 123 00:07:29,907 --> 00:07:34,400 porn star because I just sell clips and so be it and also it's 124 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,800 like a lot of people perceive different terminology 125 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,200 differently because sometimes when people that say is a commie 126 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,500 a pornstar it's like okay, I'll take it perfectly fine, whatever 127 00:07:44,500 --> 00:07:47,800 you want to call me as but I do identify more with Adult 128 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,000 modeling then being a quote unquote porn star because I 129 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,200 have, you know, some friends of mine who are poor Stars. 130 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,200 I've collaborated with porn stars, and for me, say a return 131 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,800 porn story actually need to be a star or unique to be like on 132 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:08,100 brower's and have these big Productions and I've never been 133 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,000 mainstream production girl. It's like, yes, I do only things 134 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,700 I've done porn before and it's like, if people say, oh, she 135 00:08:14,700 --> 00:08:16,900 does porn. It's like okay, fine, whatever 136 00:08:16,900 --> 00:08:19,100 you decide. I tried to call me as but does 137 00:08:19,100 --> 00:08:22,200 not necessarily the majority of my brand. 138 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,400 So I think there's a lot of nuances there because if I 139 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,700 recorded a few videos before and for the most part, I collaborate 140 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:35,299 with Brands and posed on Instagram and Twitter and chat 141 00:08:35,299 --> 00:08:37,900 with my friends share Clips do vlogs. 142 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:43,400 You know do I really could qualify as this huge porn star 143 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,300 who's out there making this gorgeous movies and everything. 144 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,700 And I do agree. There is a stigma and a lot of 145 00:08:50,700 --> 00:08:54,900 people want to run away from the stigma and I know that is 146 00:08:54,900 --> 00:08:57,400 controversial, but I don't blame them either. 147 00:08:57,500 --> 00:09:01,600 I'm running away or stigma, because why would they further 148 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,200 put themselves in a difficult situation if they don't want to 149 00:09:04,208 --> 00:09:06,700 be there, I think a lot of people tend to, like force 150 00:09:06,700 --> 00:09:09,300 labels on others. To like, you have to label 151 00:09:09,300 --> 00:09:11,900 yourself as a sex worker. You have to label yourself as a 152 00:09:11,900 --> 00:09:14,000 porn star. You have to label yourself at 153 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,500 this. This is who you are. 154 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:19,800 And it's like, let's Just focus on who we are ourselves. 155 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,600 It's like, if you identify as this activist sex worker 156 00:09:23,900 --> 00:09:25,800 preaches for the cause and everything. 157 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:29,400 Then build a community where people feel more comfortable 158 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:33,500 being themselves in the first place versus further dividing 159 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:36,000 everyone. Because listen, I think it's 160 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,400 hypocritical to complain about stigma and then complain about 161 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,200 the people who want to run away from the stigma because there's 162 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,400 a lot of corn syrup or like retired and build on a branch 163 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,000 outside. Warren because people few people 164 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,300 want to admit that the adult industry has a glass ceiling. 165 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:59,200 Has a glass ceiling, it has an expiration date and there's ways 166 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,400 to get around it. You can have your own Studios 167 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,000 and work for it in the long term. 168 00:10:03,100 --> 00:10:06,800 Does everybody want to do that? And though, so it's like if 169 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,400 somebody is like a miracle if I decided you know what scroll 170 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,500 that I want to mount thing and actually go way above and beyond 171 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:17,200 things, adult industry. Because let's be honest here, if 172 00:10:17,300 --> 00:10:20,700 Mia Khalifa were shooting the same videos and decided to do 173 00:10:20,700 --> 00:10:22,600 the same old thing over and over again. 174 00:10:22,700 --> 00:10:27,300 She'll still be dealing a lot of stigma and maybe the studio will 175 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:29,800 have, you know, bouncer around kick around because if he 176 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,600 doesn't sell as much anymore, this is a new girl coming in. 177 00:10:33,100 --> 00:10:35,100 So it's like can you really blame her when she said, you 178 00:10:35,100 --> 00:10:36,500 know what? I didn't feel comfortable in 179 00:10:36,500 --> 00:10:39,800 that industry and now this is who I am and this is who what I 180 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,100 want to do. I think some people into the 181 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:46,700 industry are bitter about it because they say oh how dare 182 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:49,500 her, this is the industry made her and Etc and then which is 183 00:10:49,500 --> 00:10:53,100 partially true. And I can see how there's a bit 184 00:10:53,100 --> 00:10:56,500 of a game here where it's like you do capitalize on where you 185 00:10:56,500 --> 00:11:00,800 started and then use that leverage to move forward and I 186 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,900 don't blame them for moving forward. 187 00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:06,100 He said he has a bit of Storytelling here to further 188 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,500 shock civilians about how bad industry is. 189 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,500 But then again who we who Are we to, you know, deny her own 190 00:11:14,500 --> 00:11:17,900 experience exactly. Everybody should have a voice. 191 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,400 Another example, be Lana roads, she spoke against her timings 192 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,100 adult industry. She's like, hey, I didn't have 193 00:11:23,100 --> 00:11:25,800 that great of a time here. This is what happened to me and 194 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,300 now this is what I'm going to do. 195 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,800 And once again, I do not blame her. 196 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,400 She's not going to stay somewhere where she's stuck and 197 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,400 what she does not feel comfortable and she doesn't feel 198 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,300 like she can try. So it's like if you really want 199 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:43,400 to support sex workers and women into adult industry or adult 200 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,400 interest HSN jobs, let's just support them in whatever they 201 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,600 decide to do because Society is hard enough on us. 202 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,000 We don't need that in fighting and bitterness. 203 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:01,500 I had to give that one because so backstory, you know, you and 204 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:03,900 I are just meeting for the first time but I also work behind the 205 00:12:03,908 --> 00:12:05,900 scenes in the adult industry. I've been working in the 206 00:12:05,900 --> 00:12:12,000 industry for about 13, 14 years almost as equivalent to being in 207 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,300 the radio industry and it is two different worlds. 208 00:12:15,500 --> 00:12:19,200 For sure, it is two different worlds and everything that you 209 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,700 just said. I totally full. 210 00:12:21,700 --> 00:12:27,400 Heartedly agree. 2% because you do have the women who are in 211 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,700 poor and that wished you just have longevity. 212 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:31,600 That's it. That's all they want to do. 213 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,700 And then there's women who get in, but they're also doing 50 214 00:12:35,700 --> 00:12:38,500 billion other things. And so they see porn or the 215 00:12:38,500 --> 00:12:42,700 adult industry as the way in to get themselves out, quick enough 216 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,200 to go and dispersed wherever they else want to plead, you 217 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:52,200 know, we've seen it with Chloe Cherry, who is now one of the 218 00:12:52,208 --> 00:12:57,100 biggest stars and you Borya, you know, yes, even just like, 219 00:12:57,100 --> 00:12:59,800 recently, everybody's been talking about Sheree de Ville 220 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,100 and how she's been speaking out against, you know, Instagrams, 221 00:13:03,100 --> 00:13:05,700 sex censorship. And now she's going into the way 222 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:09,800 of activism which is great and dandy but it's also like there 223 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,700 is a very big disconnect when I talk to you certain content 224 00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:18,500 creators, who do only fans who have done, you know, softcore 225 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:24,000 hardcore porn, but they don't want to ever reflect on. the 226 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,500 industry that kind of made them and that's where I get a little 227 00:13:28,500 --> 00:13:36,000 upset because I'm like if you did not have that outlet, You 228 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,600 would have nothing, you know what I mean? 229 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:41,900 You would have nothing. It's almost like you do have to 230 00:13:41,900 --> 00:13:45,000 go back and look at your roots and where you came from to kind 231 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,200 of get to the next higher level. And I love how you said that. 232 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,200 Because again, it's not an industry for everybody. 233 00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:55,600 It's not a get rich, get quick, get in and out, kind of thing. 234 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,000 You do have to put some work in and I think there are a lot of 235 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,300 women and just people in general who think that just putting up a 236 00:14:04,300 --> 00:14:07,200 couple Clips here and there. It's going to make millions of 237 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,600 dollars, but then when the high in demand comes then it's like, 238 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,500 oh, I don't want to do it, I got what I wanted, that's it. 239 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,400 But they don't think about the consequences, which is, of 240 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,700 course, once it's on the Internet, it's already out 241 00:14:20,700 --> 00:14:23,500 there. Yeah, it's there for life, 242 00:14:24,100 --> 00:14:26,900 you're very true. So, with that said, would you 243 00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:31,700 say for yourself being a, you know, adult model being in 244 00:14:31,700 --> 00:14:36,300 lingerie and, you know, being a beautiful curvy Just woman, 245 00:14:37,100 --> 00:14:41,700 would you say that this has helped your confidence? 246 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,300 Like where has, you know, shutting yourself for the world 247 00:14:45,300 --> 00:14:48,400 to see built that confidence? Was it always in? 248 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,100 You, was it something that you kind of gradually worked up to, 249 00:14:52,100 --> 00:14:55,000 you know, when you're like, okay, maybe this time, I'll show 250 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,300 a little bit more, you know. And that's more comforting 251 00:14:58,300 --> 00:15:01,100 because I've heard women and just people in general, who have 252 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:05,100 said the minute, they started doing more nude work. 253 00:15:05,500 --> 00:15:08,600 Ood artwork nude prints. That's when their confidence 254 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,100 really built because it's like the world's going to see me and 255 00:15:12,100 --> 00:15:15,700 I want the world to know that my body can also reflect. 256 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:20,400 There's especially when you're not talking about our usual 257 00:15:20,900 --> 00:15:27,500 small teeny teeny a cup you know, size 9 or 1, if you will, 258 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:32,500 I'm talking full figured regular everyday body is that people can 259 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:40,700 see and be like I can do that. That's a very, very interesting 260 00:15:40,700 --> 00:15:44,800 take because I've always, I feel like I've always been really 261 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,700 comfortable in my body and Wells are. 262 00:15:48,700 --> 00:15:52,900 There is some, you know, issues here and there were some days 263 00:15:52,900 --> 00:15:57,400 I'm like oh you know, I wish I was a little more fit whatever 264 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,200 and it's like it doesn't really last long and it's like a lot of 265 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,800 people go through that. So I think one thing that really 266 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,200 helped me with my confidence is just You just show up every day, 267 00:16:07,700 --> 00:16:14,000 no matter how I judge myself. Mmm, and as time goes along 268 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:20,200 ai-chan away from the self-judgment and I try to be as 269 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,000 accountable as possible to be like, this is not about others. 270 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:29,100 This is about me and how I perceive myself because people 271 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:34,000 sometimes, you know, they underestimate so open-mindedness 272 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,500 of the public. Hmm. 273 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,400 It's like sometimes people on like you're my goodness. 274 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,000 Is this bitch topless pictures of me out there and you know so 275 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,400 what is going on? But really is really not that it 276 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,700 hasn't been the case for me. Mmm I think for the most part I 277 00:16:48,700 --> 00:16:52,600 live a pretty normal life and most adult entertainers I know 278 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,300 also do. It's like sometimes yeah you 279 00:16:55,300 --> 00:16:58,900 don't have fans coming up to you and say hi which is sweet you 280 00:16:58,900 --> 00:17:05,599 know it's respectful is kind and besides that you know it is It's 281 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:08,500 pretty neat. You know I have been comfortable 282 00:17:08,500 --> 00:17:12,200 with it and I was always a curviest women. 283 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,500 I've been thin before now I'm on my curve year side era you know 284 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,500 either way it's been fine. It's like yes you're going to 285 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:25,800 have some trolls and insecure people projecting on you. 286 00:17:26,099 --> 00:17:30,000 Like you know, you look better when you was smaller or whatever 287 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,200 and it's like, you know what? More power to you, you can leave 288 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:38,700 mmm. Either way, I've learned to see 289 00:17:38,700 --> 00:17:41,300 Beauty in me. No matter what because it is 290 00:17:41,300 --> 00:17:46,400 there no matter what, so that's just fundamental that I have and 291 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:49,600 the one that's going to carry me over time. 292 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:57,700 Because I think it's very easy to get into this tis, really 293 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:03,400 toxic cycle of self-depreciation, a negative 294 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,600 self-talk and compare self comparison, especially as an 295 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,800 Instagram model because people see them online. 296 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,300 And be like, oh my gosh, you know, that's very realistic for 297 00:18:13,300 --> 00:18:16,700 me, which is a lot of times like this, but they don't realize 298 00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:20,200 that it's a girl also has unrealistic standard for herself 299 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,300 because She's not the only one here. 300 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:25,000 Who does. Who's comparing that girl that 301 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,400 you see might be comparing herself to some other girl out 302 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,800 there who is perceive a sexier and hotter and more popular and 303 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,700 Etc. And it's then you get into that 304 00:18:35,700 --> 00:18:40,600 weird. Once again, really shallow cycle 305 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,900 of competition based on looks and Etc. 306 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,600 Which is a negative sum game because at the end of the day, 307 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:50,800 we're all going to die. Die. 308 00:18:50,900 --> 00:18:53,000 We're not going to be young and beautiful forever. 309 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,400 The popular In Crowd that was there 20 years ago. 310 00:18:56,500 --> 00:19:00,000 It's not the same one. Now man, who exactly is winning 311 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,900 this game. I don't know. 312 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,800 And that's not the big thing. Like for like personally for me 313 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,900 that's the biggest struggle that I have. 314 00:19:07,900 --> 00:19:13,800 Now I feel that I you know I am in a more curvier side of my 315 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,900 life than I was before before I was in high school doing sports 316 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,100 even in college. I you know, To the gym and 317 00:19:21,100 --> 00:19:23,900 stuff. But then the pandemic 8 gyms 318 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:27,500 closed, I got a second job. Now it's kind of hard for me to 319 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:31,300 hit the gym the way I used to, you know, before the world 320 00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:38,200 changed, if you will and lately. I've been trying to, you know, 321 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,700 shed my skin a little bit more to be a little bit more 322 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,400 comfortable. Because if I'm doing a podcast 323 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,900 last podcast like this a show like this for years, where I'm 324 00:19:48,900 --> 00:19:53,100 talking about how How genuine and into my sex life. 325 00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:54,700 I am that. I don't give a fuck. 326 00:19:54,700 --> 00:19:57,700 I'll brag about the sex of the orgies everything I ever do 327 00:19:58,100 --> 00:20:00,100 that. I am so comfortable in my body, 328 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:05,200 but yeah, I love them myself. Yeah, you love it and yet I look 329 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:10,600 at myself sometimes I'm like, why the fuck, why the fuck are 330 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,200 my partners with me? I don't see, you know what 331 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,100 others? See, you know, I then you go to 332 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:20,000 the comments which I know is like the Dreadful thing which 333 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,100 are never What to do on social media is go to the commons and 334 00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:27,500 engage, but when people are telling you, you're obese lose 335 00:20:27,500 --> 00:20:31,200 some weight, you're a poster child for being fat. 336 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,000 That's not right. And then, especially being a 337 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,700 woman of color or a queer woman of color, you know, I've heard 338 00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:40,800 it from all aims of the spectrum where, oh, it's always the 339 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,000 polyamorous folks that are ugly and fat. 340 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,300 Like, why are you advertising that? 341 00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:48,500 You know what I mean? And it's like, did I come to 342 00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:52,900 your house and shit on your Lon, why are you shitting on mine? 343 00:20:54,500 --> 00:21:00,400 I'm trying to better myself. The clouds are the internet is 344 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,000 like, you know what? If somebody's making those kind 345 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,700 of hideous. Comments Gentiles are Z feel 346 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:07,800 like crap about themselves in the first place or not 347 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,800 projecting. So the way I see it is that I 348 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,400 would already put them into that category and this is not a 349 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,500 category. I tolerate on my platform. 350 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,400 So immediately there are kicked out because Is my platform is 351 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,700 actually dictatorship. This is not for see where you 352 00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:28,300 can be miserable in our phones. Curled around and take your time 353 00:21:28,300 --> 00:21:32,200 to comment, stupid stuff. It's like you're free to find me 354 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,200 beautiful. You free to find me an 355 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,000 attractive and you're free to just crawl along and move on 356 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,800 like the majority of people who don't care about me or my 357 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:46,100 content or Etc and when it comes to like, this is stigmatization 358 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,100 and prejudice against Podium useful. 359 00:21:51,300 --> 00:21:53,400 How do you say heard about like swingers clubs? 360 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,200 You know, where will like everybody thinks I I feel and I 361 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,400 do blame a lot of porn. I mean listen, we can all blame 362 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,600 poor and for a lot of things because for the longest porn had 363 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,100 a certain image. If you weren't a size 0 or 1 2, 364 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,000 that's it, like we said, Taylor complexion blondes, you know, 365 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,300 blonde hair, that's it, then it's like the black girls get 366 00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:17,700 into porn. Ebony porn has been around for 367 00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:19,900 as long as you know, the dawn of age. 368 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,600 But There's also been that aesthetic of black girls and now 369 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,900 we're seeing more bimbo, vacation happening, even amongst 370 00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:30,400 black women. So now it's like making it 371 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:36,700 harder for people to be like. Well I can't get into porn. 372 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,200 I don't have you know injectables. 373 00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:43,000 Yeah. I don't look like these girls 374 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,100 that I may get off to by myself or to my partners and then of 375 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:53,000 course you see it on television it's like there's a AIDS, weight 376 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,600 tolerance of who's curvy on the camera? 377 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,200 Exactly, it's kind of like to see more duration rules about, 378 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,100 why cook cell and Etc. I think a lot of times the 379 00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:11,200 executive artists places are stockings our own ways and don't 380 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:16,300 necessarily understand the variety and open-mindedness of 381 00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:18,500 the public. Eye was funny enough. 382 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:23,500 I was actually listening to podcast that Edward n fo CX. 383 00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:28,400 I believe editor-in-chief of British books and about you know 384 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,700 when he appeared at when they started working at British 385 00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:35,700 hopes, it was very you know stereotypical white women on the 386 00:23:35,700 --> 00:23:38,600 covers because people assume that women of color did not 387 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,600 sell. So it's that prejudice that is 388 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:47,300 still entrenched in media to this day that thankfully is 389 00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:50,300 going away because when he came there, we saw these beautiful 390 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,100 Awful covers our young say black celebrities, Brown celebrities 391 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:57,600 diversity that. He wanted to implement there and 392 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,800 see because that's who he always worked with. 393 00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:04,900 And he said, you know what, why not put it on, put it out there 394 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,900 and he realized that. Hey, so numbers said financials 395 00:24:08,900 --> 00:24:12,300 are through the roof. Most people buy into diversity, 396 00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:16,000 all these corporations are not putting diversity Chief officers 397 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,000 and out there for nothing. That's operations, care about 398 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,800 money. Diversity cells but people done 399 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,900 again, hold on to their own Prejudice especially on for 400 00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:30,000 example of Island and I'm like, this is boring. 401 00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:34,800 I'm so glad you brought love Island up because that is the 402 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,700 pouring. It's like where our where's the 403 00:24:37,708 --> 00:24:39,900 diversity? That, where is he 404 00:24:39,900 --> 00:24:42,800 interestingness? That I want people that are 405 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,700 interesting and it's a carbon copy of each other 22 year old, 406 00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:52,900 skinny long, maybe black and tall model looks great. 407 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:55,400 But what else? Right? 408 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,500 There's always a certain prototype and it doesn't matter 409 00:24:58,700 --> 00:25:01,300 what the TV show is, but love island is the perfect example. 410 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,600 Because they're in bikinis like 90% of the time. 411 00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:09,500 They're in bikinis there in swim trunks, and I have yet to see 412 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:13,500 someone like yourself Isabel, especially full-figured, 413 00:25:13,700 --> 00:25:18,100 gorgeous in lingerie, gorgeous, and swimwear, getting some love 414 00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:21,800 on the island, like, what is it? Go wrong about that. 415 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,400 And then even when you come to American television because I'm 416 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,000 so we're talking, love Island, UK and Australia. 417 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:32,500 Fuck USA like, but the American dating shows, We've all seen it. 418 00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:35,900 It's all the same prototype. There is no real full-figured 419 00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:38,300 woman. In fact, I think the first time 420 00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:43,100 I actually did fall in love with seeing a full-figured woman in a 421 00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:47,700 reality, show was an Isa aneesa on real world. 422 00:25:47,900 --> 00:25:52,200 She was in the Chicago Season, she was a lesbian, and she was a 423 00:25:52,208 --> 00:25:58,100 new days and she was curvy, and she was kind of, it was great. 424 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,200 She had a great storyline coming from a nudist colony. 425 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,800 Growing up but, you know, the house kind of ostracized her, 426 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,900 for being naked and full figured and being queer, and just being 427 00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:12,900 so free with her body and it's like, no fuck that. 428 00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:15,500 When you look at it, it's been now, almost 30 years since her 429 00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:18,400 season had aired, I can't believe I'm aging myself like 430 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,400 that, but it's been like, 20, 30 years since that season, and it 431 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:30,200 still holds to the say, to me of why I felt like it's okay to 432 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,800 shed some skin. It's okay. 433 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,400 As a full-figured Woman as a queer woman, to try to be 434 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,700 comfortable at sex parties to get naked. 435 00:26:39,700 --> 00:26:41,900 When I started going to sex parties about five, six years 436 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:44,800 ago, I didn't even have sex of the parties. 437 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,800 I didn't take my top off, I refused because I felt like one, 438 00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:53,800 I felt like I was on the menu because I was young and a lot of 439 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,600 these sex parties and swinger parties, a little bit older. 440 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,600 Crowded even the ones that they say, oh, we love the 20 year 441 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,700 olds know you love the 20 worlds because you're 60 and up looking 442 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:12,700 for some young thing thing. So it's, you know, but that's 443 00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:17,300 what I also love about going to sex parties and going to more 444 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:23,900 Kinks entered events because you see literally every body that is 445 00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:25,400 good. Everybody. 446 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,400 I love it. How? 447 00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:40,100 Some places, celebrate everyone, and ostracize and I think a lot 448 00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:44,900 of that is internal. It's like nobody forces you to 449 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,500 feel sexually attracted or enemy to someone, but there is a basic 450 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:54,700 level of respect where it's like sometimes people as soon as they 451 00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:58,200 see that somebody's overweight or not, always expects them to 452 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,600 lock, is like, get away from my face for real, and it's That's a 453 00:28:02,608 --> 00:28:05,900 reflection on you, because if you if that's what you think, 454 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,600 then you might really reconsider how you feel about yourself in 455 00:28:09,608 --> 00:28:15,400 the first place to project. That disdain on others, it 456 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,000 costs. Nothing to be kind and 457 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,500 considerate. Nothing, mmm. 458 00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:24,000 Are we really losing out on these people? 459 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,000 I made the conclusion that, you know what, if somebody is being 460 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:34,500 weird and you know, Standoffish because I look a certain way you 461 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:37,000 know what? Great get away from me. 462 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,700 Please, it's then I can welcome to love. 463 00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:46,800 That is actually given to me and that's something that I make 464 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:52,300 sure that I honor. Like, for example, is he is 465 00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:56,400 examples, is the comment section because for every negative 466 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,400 comment just going to be 10 or hundreds of positive ones and I 467 00:29:00,408 --> 00:29:05,300 make sure to read I appreciate those like them if I can reply 468 00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:10,900 reply, because these are people who love and support me versus, 469 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000 you know, so goofball, who's like, who she is? 470 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,900 Wearing a bra, and it's like, you know, what? 471 00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:18,700 Great, you know, you're out of here. 472 00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:20,700 Mmm. I love that. 473 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:23,300 We're going to take a quick sexy break and then come and right 474 00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:28,200 back with Isabel. 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Welcome back with Isabel. 502 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,500 Oh my goodness, we have been talking so much like good gems. 503 00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:01,500 And I want to Circle back on a couple things again, talking 504 00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:05,200 about sex cells and just gaining that confidence. 505 00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:10,100 Now, let's talk about the bedroom confidence because I 506 00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:15,900 feel that maybe you can relate with this to have you ever felt 507 00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:18,200 yourself? Sometimes where you're in the 508 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,500 bedroom, you might be. On top and you kind of get that 509 00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:25,800 like shyness of letting your curves, just touch your 510 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,800 partner's body or let your partner touch your curves. 511 00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:33,800 For me, it was like the longest I'd never liked my stomach being 512 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,900 touched during sex. Good question. 513 00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:44,100 Honestly, I never felt it because I realize, if somebody 514 00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:47,900 is in the bedroom with me, they're here for me and 515 00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:51,000 everything that comes with it. So is, there is a bedroom with 516 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,100 me? Chances are, it's already love 517 00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:58,700 my curves and you say, like, I feel it that's alot of my curve, 518 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,800 so you know, let them embrace it. 519 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,400 I'm racing do and it works out well that way. 520 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:12,000 But when we think about self-consciousness, I don't 521 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,000 know, it's like I think the bedroom Journey somewhere where 522 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:21,100 I feel really free and open and that self-consciousness is not 523 00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:22,700 really. There may be some times when I'm 524 00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:28,200 on top and I get fired, I feel like I'm lazy but that's fine. 525 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,100 So get over it there with the Baddie in the bedroom, they're 526 00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:36,400 fine, they're being blessed, there we go but you know I feel 527 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,600 that Sometimes even if the cameras are off in a lot of 528 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,600 people do say cameras off. I'm not my full confidence 529 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,000 lights on lights off, but when I'm on camera, I'm thinking 530 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,600 about what may happen with once it's out there, you know, how 531 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,500 are people going to respond and receive? 532 00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:58,500 I might think I look bomb as hell and then someone's in the 533 00:32:58,508 --> 00:33:02,200 comments being a clown. But, like you said earlier, you 534 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,500 know, for every clown, there's like 10 to 100, other positive, 535 00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:09,500 Comments. So how would you say for someone 536 00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:13,200 who may just want to start embracing their body showing off 537 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,800 their body? A little bit more and modeling? 538 00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:19,000 Where can they find from the bedroom confidence to the 539 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,900 on-camera confidence? Because I know there's sometimes 540 00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:26,000 there could be two different connections and a disconnect 541 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:29,100 when it comes to that because again you're sharing your body 542 00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:32,300 with just one person or many people however you live your 543 00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:35,500 best sex life. However, you get it in but then 544 00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:39,500 also When you're sharing it with the camera, the world is seen 545 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,600 this can't, you know, seeing yourself through that lens and 546 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,400 that's it. Good question. 547 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:52,200 I think let yourself kind of like embrace it naturally. 548 00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:57,300 Not force things. Because let's say that on 549 00:33:57,300 --> 00:33:59,900 camera. You feel different and not as 550 00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:03,500 confident. Just take it slow. 551 00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:07,500 If you want to film by yourself, do it by yourself because I 552 00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:11,000 think about filming, especially if he's just you or, you know, 553 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,400 taking our pictures you don't have to publish it right away. 554 00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:18,699 Mmm it doesn't have to go out there to work right away. 555 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,500 So I think a good thing to prep yourself or just to just take 556 00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:26,800 content for yourself. Just do it for yourself if you 557 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,199 want to share it with your partner. 558 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:32,000 Great. But you know, take your own It's 559 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,500 and keep it ready to like get it out there. 560 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,699 Do the processing, the practice nudes, if you will exactly, 561 00:34:40,699 --> 00:34:42,600 exactly. Because then you start getting 562 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,100 more comfortable and you camera seeing your body. 563 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:48,100 And to some extent, you will get the sense that I saw it. 564 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,800 You're like oh it's no big deal like my fondest hundreds of 565 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,100 millions of meals, like whatever. 566 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:59,200 I'm used to it and it's like also there's so many people out 567 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,700 there who do porn who are not necessarily 10/10. 568 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,100 Dance or supermodels. And I think that's actually the 569 00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:09,800 majority of the porn industry is like, not everybody up there. 570 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,100 It's like somebody who's on a book cover or anything like 571 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:15,000 that. A lot of people in Port look 572 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,000 normal. So, women look, you know, 573 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,000 there's a higher standard for the women but at the same time, 574 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,300 there's also especially for many fans way. 575 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:31,100 We wait more diversity in body size because I know women of any 576 00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:36,800 size, Age, you know background who does 0f women, who look like 577 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,200 you women, who look like me women who are older shorter much 578 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,700 bigger and there's an audience out there. 579 00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:46,400 Who be like oh my goodness I'm in love. 580 00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:49,900 I love that. So sometimes we overthink about 581 00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:53,600 how the public will perceive us, and most of the times the people 582 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,800 there is out on PornHub, going out of their way to click on 583 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,300 your video. They like what they see that's 584 00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:03,500 true and, you know, it also brings it to the point of like I 585 00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:08,300 wish people would stop saying that they secretly love a bigger 586 00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:12,200 full-figured woman that shouldn't be ever secret. 587 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,900 You know, there are beautiful full-figured people out there 588 00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:19,100 who are just Wanting to be loved and reciprocated, but when you 589 00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:23,600 start hiding it like a secret, I think it was this. 590 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,900 It was a couple weeks ago, an old clip of Howard, Stern pulled 591 00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:33,900 up, and it was him, interviewing John Cena, the wrestler and he 592 00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:38,300 talked about You know, fucking a bigger woman. 593 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,000 He was with a group of his guys, and, you know, he did jokingly 594 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,700 say, like, I did take one for the team, but it was a beautiful 595 00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:47,800 experience and Howard Stern. Just couldn't wrap around his 596 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:55,100 head that John Cena, fucked a bigger woman and it's like It's 597 00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:58,400 pussy. A man is not going to reject 598 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,700 pussy especially if the pussy comes with personality, I would 599 00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:08,500 never reject somebody for having a good personality and say, oh 600 00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:10,600 no, that's a no-go Zone because of their body. 601 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,800 I joked around and years ago and I said, I can never have sex 602 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,600 with a man with bigger titties than me. 603 00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:18,900 I still have never fucked a bigger man, but I also don't 604 00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:21,400 fuck a lot of men, but if there was a man who made that 605 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,400 exception made me laugh, treated me, you know, Oh well, and I'm 606 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,700 like, oh yeah, maybe you're doing things to me and you got 607 00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:30,600 bigger titties than me, maybe I will have that experience. 608 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,500 You know, I'm not going to like knock it until I try. 609 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:40,000 It kind of thing. so, coming back to that, it's like You 610 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,100 know, talking about the dating life, where do you think sex 611 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:46,600 cells in dating versus sex selling? 612 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,000 Or if there is a difference it's like selling on just only fans 613 00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:54,400 or would you say it's almost kind of like the same because 614 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,600 people swiper what they like. But there's also that like 615 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,900 secret, I can't like it on my dating profile but I'll like you 616 00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:06,000 and by your Clips secretly on only fans, but I'm not going to 617 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,300 tell anybody that I'm into big women. 618 00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:11,600 I'm going to keep swiping. All the skinny women on a dating 619 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,400 app, be seen with a skinny woman on a dating app. 620 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,800 But I secretly like full-figured with it. 621 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,500 Hmm. Well, in that case, I think yes, 622 00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:29,400 there is this category of man. But I honestly felt when I was 623 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,900 dating, I mean, I didn't feel like my partners were seeing me 624 00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:38,500 the fetishy way personally, I think like something that I felt 625 00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:42,300 like Sarah fetishizing. A bet was my status online. 626 00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:45,400 Like, wow, you since the grandma roll? 627 00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:49,700 I don't know. Especially in America, where 628 00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:54,400 it's like, Do I really want to give them that opportunity? 629 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,200 I don't know. So I always felt like dating was 630 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,400 a bit overwhelming for me at that time because it's either 631 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,300 people. Don't think you real on two 632 00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,600 profiles. I think you're fake profile, 633 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:11,400 whatever. And then it's like, oh, they see 634 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,100 you as this as this, you know, this Instagram model. 635 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,400 Yeah. And it's like, there's also men 636 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,800 out there who just you as a person. 637 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,200 Beautiful women, that's enough to date an Embrace and a lot of 638 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,600 men out there who do love Curve Your women. 639 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:33,200 So it's not necessarily about, you know, I think especially 640 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,700 nowadays, but being thin, but it also depends for their own, 641 00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:41,300 their friend group because they're like, oh, if their 642 00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:44,300 friends are judgmental, then chances are she'll be judgmental 643 00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:47,600 himself because they'll be like, oh, my friend, is going to bring 644 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,300 something funny about me if I see this girl, so I'm Keep it on 645 00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:52,400 the low. Right? 646 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,100 So I don't know, I feel like sometimes I felt like I had the 647 00:39:57,100 --> 00:40:01,500 opposition from, you know, they'll be FaceTiming leaves our 648 00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:03,600 friend and I felt like, you know what? 649 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:09,000 I'm not too sure pointy. So, you know, I there's a new 650 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,900 ones there because I do like, discretion and privacy when it 651 00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:16,400 comes to dating and intimacy. But when it comes to, like this 652 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,400 whole weird fetish, if Aang, there's so many options out 653 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,100 there, if I feel like somebody is treating you like a secret. 654 00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:27,100 Chances are they are. So I think one good thing that 655 00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:30,200 women need to do is to not guess like themself I feel like if 656 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,100 you're dating someone unless he's just, you consider them a 657 00:40:33,107 --> 00:40:35,700 booty call and you don't really be seen in public with you, some 658 00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:38,000 either, right? And they should be, at least 659 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,300 taking you out, you know, treating you well and if you 660 00:40:41,300 --> 00:40:44,600 decide to be intimate with them grades, but you should not be a 661 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:50,900 weird secret. 1010. Would you say also in the lines 662 00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:53,700 of sex selling, there is a cultural divide on that to. 663 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,900 Like, if you go outside of the Americas, I feel that depending 664 00:40:57,900 --> 00:41:01,500 upon where you're dating, or where you might be doing 665 00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:06,400 content, creation, bigger bodies, are praised Oh, good 666 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,700 question. I think it's the opposite 667 00:41:07,700 --> 00:41:11,700 because America Praises bigger bodies, Martin Europe, real a 668 00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:16,500 100% Europe. Maybe see you case a bit more 669 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:17,900 open-minded. I just miss you. 670 00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:20,300 Okay, it's a bit more open-minded and let's say, 671 00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:23,600 France, or Italy. Because I've noticed there is 672 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:29,500 like, once the sea Bigger bodies as an ailment it's like oh 673 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,300 you're overweight or something wrong with you. 674 00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:33,800 Wow. Because those are different, 675 00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:38,400 it's a lot less. A lot less sedentary, 10 America 676 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,800 and the quality of the food there is also more regulated So 677 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,400 and I've better work-life balance so it's easier there to 678 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:52,300 be fit then here. And but it's also very cultural. 679 00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:55,900 They do have that, you know, skinny white Duty. 680 00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:58,600 You know, are concentric ideal of beauty. 681 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,400 So if somebody doesn't necessarily fall in line with 682 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,600 that, then you're kind of like an oddity. 683 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,300 I'll I believe, because sometimes I go in to shop there 684 00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:14,400 and it's like you know, the size size, a large there in Spain is 685 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,200 monsters necessarily the same large that's here in l.a. right? 686 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,400 Exactly exactly. I nothing offends me more when 687 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,800 they say oh yeah we got we got to excel in. 688 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,400 It's clearly an Extra large, it's clearly a large or medium. 689 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,600 If you will. I do remember going to when I 690 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,300 went to Italy and I was like, I really can't find anything even 691 00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:40,200 as a sixteen-year-old girl because I had really strong. 692 00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:43,600 It's built for off. If you're not an extra small, 693 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,200 good luck. Oh my God and yeah, it was so 694 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:52,400 crazy because the Italian main drooled they drooled over black 695 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:57,100 skin curvy body. It was like almost On display. 696 00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:00,700 And then, of course, you know, you go into Nigerian cultures 697 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,900 and you know, I'm West Indian. So from Barbados and Jamaica and 698 00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:12,000 it's like Bigger is better that, you know, they try to say and I 699 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,400 love that but also I feel there is that disconnect even hear me 700 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,200 americanize Nigerian main. It's like they do want the child 701 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:27,900 bearing hips woman but also they still rather be seen With the 702 00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:34,000 the skinny influencer, you know Bearskin model I'm like wow I 703 00:43:34,008 --> 00:43:38,500 say that you embrace all of a black woman you want has to 704 00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:42,200 offer but you only want to be seen with me at certain things 705 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,800 may be at certain cultural events versus like in the club 706 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,500 in Vegas or out in the club on a rooftop in New York, it's so 707 00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:53,500 weird to me. So so weird to me that they're 708 00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:57,300 still just like these little here and there's like oh You're 709 00:43:57,300 --> 00:44:02,700 sexy and cute but only sexy for this type of event, only on this 710 00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:04,600 night of the week that kind of thing. 711 00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:07,000 It's so crazy. And then when you put it in all 712 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,700 perspective in, you know, the aspect of marketing, it's kind 713 00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:14,200 of like there is still that I especially now in radio because 714 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,300 they want to see more of us. They want more of the radio 715 00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:22,400 jocks to be more glammed up and they want us to start looking 716 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,400 like news reporters and I'm like, we did not get into this 717 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,000 industry in the first place. To be seen. 718 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,400 So now you're telling me I might have to drop a little weight 719 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,400 now, you're telling me, I got to put a little bit more makeup on, 720 00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:39,400 and I have to look the way I sound when I first heard that. 721 00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:46,300 I was like exactly beginner and yet, I'm told my voice is too 722 00:44:46,300 --> 00:44:49,600 seductive to be on certain radio stations. 723 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,800 Like my God would you, would you rather me sell your product if 724 00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:00,000 it's like cells, then let my voice, sell the product, sell 725 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,700 the station, you know what? It's almost like. 726 00:45:03,700 --> 00:45:09,100 They don't want people who fall outside the norm to be desired. 727 00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:13,000 Yes. And I'll put that. 728 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:19,100 Also that weird dichotomy of all we like you but and just want to 729 00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:22,400 the Wayside. This is too dangerous, right? 730 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,500 It's if it's on you can't take it there for you for your 731 00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:30,900 personality and to Big package and there's going to be an 732 00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:33,400 audience that's like oh my gosh worse worse. 733 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,300 A fire. We want to see her because we 734 00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:39,500 love her and they don't want to really open that gate because I 735 00:45:39,508 --> 00:45:43,900 feel like to some extent. And challenges our own 736 00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:48,100 perception of the world. it challenges the own perception of 737 00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:52,500 society because it wont to still feel like Society, only likes a 738 00:45:52,508 --> 00:45:55,500 certain type of women and certain ideas of femininity and 739 00:45:55,500 --> 00:46:02,100 certain ideal of beauty and like maybe your beauty ideals Only go 740 00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:05,400 so far. Maybe a lot of it is in your 741 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,700 head will be your Social Circles. 742 00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:10,000 And even there is kind of forced because it's a group of people a 743 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,800 group of guys start on like who I like this girl and I liked 744 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,900 that girl. Not like this, not like that but 745 00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:18,100 I also feel like there's a counter balance to it. 746 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,900 Let's say for example the Nigerian men who is maybe more 747 00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:27,500 person eyes has a higher Social Status and want to be perceived 748 00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:30,800 to be a certain way around certain women. 749 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:36,400 Then it's going to be very challenging for him to be 750 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,100 himself and say, hey, I like this girl because that's the 751 00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:43,500 other guys are going to be like, what's wrong with you? 752 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,500 You guys look that and then he's also first trains on their 753 00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:50,700 relationship because she goes somewhere in terms of guys are 754 00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:54,200 sneaking them. And it's like and then the 755 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,200 grandma can comfortably say like, why am I even here? 756 00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:01,600 Your friends are dicks. So, then he sells for this, The 757 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,500 girls attracted to. So I could get, this is fine. 758 00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:07,300 I'm, I like her as well. And she's safe, so it's safe. 759 00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:10,900 But also does it really mean that he's loyal to her? 760 00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:14,500 That's another counteract, their action. 761 00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:19,900 Because I also noticed that people that are overly fixated 762 00:47:19,900 --> 00:47:24,000 on beauty, see it as a commodity, and the miss out on 763 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,000 the uniqueness that makes you as a person. 764 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,300 So, because your commodity, you're easily replaceable, hmm. 765 00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:34,500 If your day, is there for your looks and blond hair, and blue 766 00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:38,100 eyes, and skinny body. Next day, it's just going to be 767 00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:40,500 your carbon copy out there. Nice about it. 768 00:47:40,500 --> 00:47:42,500 Is it's going to be your carbon copy of There. 769 00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:44,800 And so it's going also to be that pressure on the girls. 770 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,700 Like what half has to be this way. 771 00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:51,400 I have to be this way and it's like, you're don't really feel 772 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,800 as loved and respected as you should be. 773 00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:57,100 So, sometimes people, I feel like we missed those 774 00:47:57,100 --> 00:48:03,000 fundamentals and we your to Virtual stops only looks, but 775 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:08,600 looks they fade people change. So, there's an Essence to the 776 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,900 person that sometimes people are missing, and the like, that's 777 00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:16,800 why sometimes we see two celebrities and really popular, 778 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,100 man in that pleads with stunning women. 779 00:48:19,700 --> 00:48:21,700 But it's almost like it's never enough for them. 780 00:48:22,300 --> 00:48:25,800 It's a culture in never Satisfied. 781 00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:28,300 That's yeah, that's kind of like where we're at. 782 00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:32,500 Now even in this digital era as we wrap up this digital era it's 783 00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:37,900 like we're never quite satisfied on social media. 100%, you know, 784 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,900 you might get two million likes one day and then only 50 likes 785 00:48:42,900 --> 00:48:46,700 the next, it's never like a consistent model and I feel that 786 00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:51,100 I, you know, while it can be a booster, it can be a confidence 787 00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:54,500 booster, you know, I was talking about it in therapy. 788 00:48:54,700 --> 00:49:00,100 The earlier today, it's kind of like I'm tired of social media 789 00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:03,800 becoming such a popularity contest, where people have to 790 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,900 feel the pressure to look a certain way. 791 00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:08,900 And that's the social standard of what's going to make them 792 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,900 pop. What's going to make them so 793 00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:15,500 harder? It's not, you know, genuine 794 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,800 personality anymore. It's do they shed more clothes? 795 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,600 That's fine. That's going to get the like 796 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,500 right there but the minute they put those clothes. 797 00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:27,000 Jean or the minute. They show a boyfriend or 798 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,300 girlfriend or whatever. Oh, fuck that they're gone. 799 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,800 We're out of here. Pull out. 800 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,300 Now, they're not selling the brand. 801 00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:41,900 If sex cells, then let all aspects of sex cell. 802 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,800 Oh yes! Okay, let all aspects of sex. 803 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:52,000 I'm talking full frontal full-figured, all different 804 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,600 shapes sizes, you know, disabilities, if you will. 805 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,600 Okay. Amputees can be sexy. 806 00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:02,800 I've seen them women with Vitiligo sexy. 807 00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:04,700 Oh yes. Okay. 808 00:50:05,300 --> 00:50:09,300 Let's Excel and stop. Putting a cap on. 809 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,000 What is the meaning of sex selling as we've been talking 810 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,500 about? It's very that confidence. 811 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:22,100 It is but I think itno today's a great news is that cap is slowly 812 00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:26,400 blowing up because anything that's forced this going to be a 813 00:50:26,408 --> 00:50:30,200 counter force and then the truth itself of be settled. 814 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,500 Hmm. Goodness, I think we can 815 00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:38,400 understand that because that's that's the way it has to be. 816 00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:41,200 I do see it. It has to be more of it and we 817 00:50:41,207 --> 00:50:44,200 just have to continue that. And what you've been saying to 818 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,400 me today it's like it's I'm gonna go back to this and I'm 819 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,800 like, I got to pull up a couple mantras from what you were 820 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,100 saying and work on my own self, and I appreciate that. 821 00:50:53,900 --> 00:50:55,700 Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. 822 00:50:55,700 --> 00:50:58,500 You know, you learn from our conversation as well of the 823 00:50:58,500 --> 00:51:00,700 course. So Isabel where can people get 824 00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:02,900 in touch with you. What's coming up? 825 00:51:02,900 --> 00:51:06,000 If you know people want to get more of you like where can they 826 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,000 find you? Do you have any events or 827 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,900 speaking engagements that people can tap into? 828 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,600 Oh great? Yes. 829 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:18,700 So you can find me on Twitter at Isabelle Miller X. 830 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:24,700 Same thing for Instagram. Isabelle Miller X on YouTube is 831 00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:30,200 Isabelle Miller on Tick-Tock. It is it's Isabelle Miller 832 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,200 perfect. So Now you can find me on all 833 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,500 the social media platforms and Annie speaking engagements or 834 00:51:36,508 --> 00:51:39,800 anything coming up soon. No speaking engagements. 835 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,100 Perfect. People can still get in touch 836 00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:44,200 with you which is great. See your content. 837 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,800 See your beauty in essence and of course I will drop all those 838 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,500 links in the bio of this episode for you guys to tapping, give 839 00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:55,300 some love to Isabel, trust me. Y'all won't, y'all won't regret 840 00:51:55,300 --> 00:52:01,300 it was a pleasure being here with you guys. 841 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,000 Q, thank you. Remember, you can reach me at 842 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:09,500 Miz radio Sapphire that's MSR ADI OSAP pH I re at Miz radio 843 00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:13,300 Sapphire.com sapphires your play on Instagram at Miz radio 844 00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:17,100 Sapphire and Instagram. Of course remember the safe sex 845 00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:19,800 is the best. Hot sex till next time. 846 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,300 Good night. That was the show. 847 00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:26,900 All you sexy motherfuckers out there. 848 00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:30,100 Remember to follow, Adam is Radio Sapphire and sapphires are 849 00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:32,700 play on Instagram once. Amir guys into the past and 850 00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:34,700 future. Make sure to follow on Apple Pie 851 00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:38,200 cast, anchor Spotify, iHeartRadio and all streaming 852 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:32,700 platforms. Amir guys into the past and 853 00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:34,700 future. Make sure to follow on Apple Pie 854 00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:38,200 cast, anchor Spotify, iHeartRadio and all streaming 855 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,200 platforms.