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Warning, the following program 
is not for the weak hearted, 

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those who are close minded or in
general you're scared to learn 

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what's behind closed doors. 
Here at Sapphires Airplay. 

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I want you to pour the wine, 
grab somebody that you want to 

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hold on to, or better yet, get 
the vibration stimulated through

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your body. 
Get ready for one hell of an 

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orgasm in 54321. 
What is up all you sexy 

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motherfuckers out there in 
Radioland? 

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It's your girls Sapphire. 
Man oh man, I feel like I have 

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not, you know, been with you 
earbuds in quite a while and a 

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lot has changed. 
First things first, you guys may

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have noticed if you're watching 
this interview, not only do I 

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have a beautiful guest with me, 
but also we're in a new studio 

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layout. 
Yes, the Sir and I, we have 

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finally moved. 
We're settling into our new home

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together and there's so much 
with that, but we're not going 

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to talk about that today. 
Today I am so pleased to 

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announce my guest who is 
revealing themselves. 

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Yes. 
Now some people may have seen 

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the name of the episode with our
guest who is Gal Mariah. 

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So I would love to bring you in 
Miss Gal and I want to explain 

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to people why they are now 
seeing you for the first time. 

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But First things first, I think 
we have to bring in those rowdy 

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motherfucking frat boys of 
Sapphire's Earplace. 

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So come on boys, we had a 
delayed cause on that Gal. 

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Thank you, gal Mariah. 
Let me just let me please say it

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in full. 
Gal Mariah, thank you so much 

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for joining us today. 
Thank you. 

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It's so nice to be here. 
And so just to clarify, my name 

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is pronounced Gal Maria. 
Oh my gosh. 

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But no worries I guess, 
mispronounced all kinds of 

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different ways. 
Well, Gal Maria, Yeah, Gal 

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Maria, please, if you have any 
dominant bone in your body, you 

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know, just just slug it to me, 
you know, during this whole 

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episode, please. 
I'm so happy to be here and 

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congratulations on your new 
place. 

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That's just such an exciting 
transition and I know that also 

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means that you have been working
so hard, so I hope you can take 

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a little breather and enjoy your
new space. 

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You know, it's great. 
It's like now this episode is 

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being released on 4th of July 
weekend. 

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So yes, I am definitely resting 
myself and this is actually a 

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big weekend for you that we are,
you know, unveiling, if you 

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will, yourself. 
Now a lot of people who may be 

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familiar with you, you have 
never shown your face. 

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Now let's explain that to 
people. 

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You are a Would you say you are 
an artist of some sorts? 

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I would say artist is probably 
one of my main things I would 

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now describe myself as. 
You know what's funny? 

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I got into it on social media. 
It's funny. 

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Every time Pride season comes 
up, it seems like my topics from

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before, they seem to just 
resurface. 

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And so there was an episode in 
which I had a content creator 

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who was an Only fans content 
creator who was on a 2B show. 

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And last year we had a very, you
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fans, artistry and all that. 
And then all of a sudden a year 

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later, leading up to our 
discussion, the there was a 

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person online that said, 
basically, can we stop saying 

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that erotica artists are 
artists? 

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And I'm like, wait, hold up. 
How is this not a formal 

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artistry? 
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erotica and in more especially 
when we talk about nudity, 

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nudity has always been around in
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particular as art. 
Now, one may, you know, try to 

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go into this whole debate and 
say, well, no, there's nudity 

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and then there's erotica. 
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nudity, but we can't call it 
art. 

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So I'm glad that you're standing
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an artist. 
So what qualifies you as an 

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artist, Gal Maria? 
Yeah, it's, it's a great 

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question. 
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wouldn't necessarily call all 
erotica art. 

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I think it really depends on how
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And there are people who are 
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where they're literally just 
pointing their camera at their 

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body with, you know, and you 
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broadly defined that it may be 
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art because that's form of art 
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But for me, I'm an artist both 
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of it. 
So I actually started realizing 

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that I am a very artistic, 
creative person when I started 

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getting naked on the Internet. 
And when people ask me so people

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in my regular life, they now 
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It's just very obvious. 
It comes up all the time. 

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A lot of the stuff I wear or 
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my a lot of my hair, flowers I 
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There's all kinds of different 
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And when they ask me, how did 
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And very often I am not totally 
honest about how I got into art.

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What, you mean you're not 
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There's always ways of answering
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omitting, you know, we all do 
that all time in life. 

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And I absolutely can answer the 
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But the truth is like the real 
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is that I never thought I was a 
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I was, I used to, I was in a 
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technical kind of mindset, very 
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thinking, critical thinking, 
that kind of thing, which still 

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totally characterizes a lot of 
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And when I started posting news 
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started noticing that a lot of 
the choices that I was making 

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were actually very creative. 
So I would think about what 

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angles do I want to do, where do
I want to set myself up in the 

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shot? 
How do I want to play with the 

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lighting? 
What caption do I want to add? 

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All kinds of things. 
And that I don't really, I don't

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remember it as a light bulb 
moment, but I do remember 

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starting to notice these things.
And in this decade now, since 

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then, art has become part of my 
life in so many different ways 

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and beyond just my adult 
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I, I, I have to cut in and say, 
you know, it's very interesting 

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at the way that you are 
presenting this because again, 

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for the longest, those who have 
stood by you, you know, they've 

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only seen tibbets of your body. 
And it's almost like you've 

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given, you know, that that 
reclamation of a tease of a 

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erotic tease, if you will. 
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fascinating as you reached out 
to me, This is what I love about

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sapphires, your play. 
You know, I, I get a lot of 

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requests of people to come onto 
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But what I, what stood out to me
was that you look at yourself 

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and people who are watching this
episode right now, you don't 

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look like the typical nude 
model. 

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You don't look like the typical,
you know, erotic artist or adult

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content creator. 
Now I'm saying all these 

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different words because in 
future, in previous episodes, a 

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lot of people will come up to me
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star. 
I'm a adult content creator. 

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Oh, I'm not this. 
I'm, you know, even though I'm 

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selling my, my nudes, I'm not a 
porn star or I'm not doing porn.

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This is tasteful erotica. 
And here you are, you know, full

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bodied and I mean full body in 
every respectable way. 

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You got curves for days. 
You look like just this fresh 

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faced woman who could be a 
teacher, who could be, you know,

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a library, anything but the 
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artist. 
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trend that has been happening 
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age, I would say probably in 
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they have this transition. 
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parents have passed away, 
family, you know, has kind of 

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dissipated from their lives or 
whatever. 

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But it seems like there are more
adults like you and I who are 

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very just like distinctive, 
normalized human beings with 

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beautiful, fresh faces, not 
really, Donna, who are 

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reclaiming their nudes, if you 
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And I have to applaud you on 
that because there's still this,

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like, stigma that we have when 
it comes to erotica and adult 

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content. 
You know, once it's out there, 

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it's out there and you're 
tainted. 

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Do you feel jaded now that you 
are now putting yourself out 

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there? 
Do you feel a little bit more 

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jaded? 
Or do you feel like this weight 

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has been lifted off your 
shoulders that now you can fully

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like be yourself and allow 
people to just embrace you full 

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heartedly? 
How do you feel about that? 

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Well, OK, let me see. 
There's just 1000 different 

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things. 
I can say about this, yeah. 

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My my decade of doing this, of 
being nude and sometimes raunchy

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on the Internet. 
And I say sometimes because some

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of my nudes are raunchy, some of
my videos are raunchy, and some 

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of them are more like here's 
just sharing my body or sharing 

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myself doing a normal life 
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Or every once in a while, I even
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know? 
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this decade has made me jaded, 
not just because of this 

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particular work, but just in 
general growing up in a way, you

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know, I've I've had so many 
interactions with so many 

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people. 
And sometimes when you see the 

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same kind of interaction in your
inbox over and over and over 

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again, or you see how the same 
things are happening over social

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media, or you see how only fans 
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how extremely stark the contrast
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Like, for example, the premise 
that the idea that somebody just

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throws up a few feet pictures or
butt pictures and they're going 

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to make millions of dollars and 
contrast that with the reality 

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that this is entrepreneurship in
a stigmatized, challenging field

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that includes your body. 
All of that in a way I would say

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has made me jaded. 
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well, since we're recording 
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advance and so I haven't 
actually posted my my face, am I

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allowed to say that? 
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this is kind of Evergreen. 
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I don't like to like unveil and 
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so recorded in advance, but we 
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And why did we do this? 
For a reason, Gal Mariah. 

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So my face reveal is on July 
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And so after a decade of being 
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finally showing my full face. 
So I have been increasingly 

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showing my face, increasingly 
showing myself over the course 

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of this time. 
So I used to hide my face 

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completely, and I don't remember
exactly when, but for a long 

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time now, probably at least six 
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maybe more, I've basically been 
showing my nose down sometimes, 

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like my eyebrows up. 
So really, I've just been 

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keeping my eyes out of it. 
And I've been ready to show my 

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face for a long time. 
I almost showed my face in 2020 

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and then I just basically 
adjusted my plan and now it is 

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time. 
And so I'm really excited 

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because when the audience is 
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my only fans, on my social 
media, just in general online, I

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am releasing content that has my
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And so I'm, I'm just incredibly 
excited for it. 

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It's, it's kind of a funny thing
for me because many, many people

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online have their face posted. 
You go through life and you have

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your face posted, whether or not
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But for me, I have shown parts 
of my body and really intimate 

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actions that most people are not
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And so the fact that the one 
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back is these just very innocent
eyes, you know, that's an 

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unusual kind of experience. 
But honestly, I would say I'm 

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living a pretty unusual kind of 
life, so it's very fitting. 

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I'm just going to say this right
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I am really encouraging 
everybody who does listen to the

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show. 
I want y'all to see this because

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again, Miguel Maria is not your 
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And it almost gives me like a 
sense of a like comfort that, 

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you know, you are stepping out 
as just this beautiful, you 

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know, normalized normal face. 
And I don't want people to under

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like when when I say normal 
face, this is not me judging 

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you. 
This is not me saying like 

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you're ugly because you are a 
beautiful woman. 

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I'm saying normal face because 
you have no body modifications 

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to yourself. 
You don't have this bimbo look 

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to you. 
You know, these typical content 

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creator faces you don't have, 
you know, the sausage duck lips 

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and all that. 
You have a beautiful fresh, 

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clean face and again, you are 
reclaiming your body. 

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Do you feel in a sense that 
you're like reclaiming your body

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not just to the public but for 
yourself? 

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Do you think in your private 
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extra boost, if you will, to, 
to, you know, show your face to 

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show, you know, your full body, 
your body, as you say, still in 

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metamorphosis, which is, you 
know, the, the act of change you

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are, you know, morphing into 
this beautiful butterfly. 

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I, I could see it on your face. 
Every time you talk about 

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something, your, your face kind 
of lights up. 

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And I love that. 
I really love that for you. 

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And it's a powerful thing to 
take back something that you 

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already give to people. 
You and I kind of connected on 

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this thing, the way that you 
reveal your your whole body, 

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your whole face, and brings me 
back to when I was just starting

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out my radio career. 
And for the longest, I never 

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said my name. 
Everybody knew me as Sapphire. 

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They didn't really know me as 
Megan Sapphire. 

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And a lot of people ask me over 
the years, like, what led you to

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say your name, you know, Megan 
Safire? 

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And it was honestly, it came 
down to unfortunately a stalker.

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It came down to someone who 
harassed me online. 

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They knew my full name. 
And they were basically in a 

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sense they were like, well, I'm 
just going to throw your name 

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out there and you know, and I'm 
like, OK, well then fuck you. 

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We 2 can play that game fine. 
Miss Megan Safire. 

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That's it. 
That was it. 

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And on top of that, it's like, 
you know, getting into saga 

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after I was like, that's my 
name, period. 

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It it's it's mine. 
And you know, it's someone tried

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to weaponize that. 
And I don't want to say that 

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hopefully it's no one weaponized
your body, but I get that sense.

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It's like when you are out there
and you're putting your heart 

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and soul into a craft. 
And sometimes people have that, 

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that, you know, that moment of, 
OK, do I go with my real name 

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and, and shame my family? 
Or do I make a faux name and 

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make this faux personality? 
Some people can't live those two

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different lives. 
So I'm glad that you are able to

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embrace that and reclaim your 
body and reclaim your face and 

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reclaim erotica in the way that 
you want it. 

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I really, really think that 
people need to reconsider when 

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they do erotica. 
Yeah, you're giving yourself to 

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the world, but you still need to
find yourself and keep yourself 

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and protect yourself in any way 
possible. 

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So I love that you are are being
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embrace everything that's going 
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Yeah, I feel like this whole 
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the whole path that I've gone 
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about reclaiming who I am and 
exploring myself. 

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I first got into posting nudes 
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myself. 
Wow. 

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I had a really awful body image,
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that at the time when I first 
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actually conformed a lot more to
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societal expectations. 
Oh, let's talk about that. 

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Yeah, so when I first posted 
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the thinnest I'd ever been. 
My weight has fluctuated a lot 

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in my life. 
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had lost a lot of weight and I 
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myself. 
And there's so much to unpack 

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there. 
But in general, what what I have

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seen in myself is that my 
conforming to societal 

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expectations in things like 
having lost a lot of weight, 

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which I've since regained, I 
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myself. 
Another way in which I conformed

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a lot more there is that the 
first time I ever posted nudes 

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onto, in this case it was 
Reddit. 

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It was the subreddit called 
Normal Nudes, which is a place 

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for sharing non sexual just 
normal bodies and sharing about 

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your experience for your body as
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For me, when I decided that I 
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already made some progress on 
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lurking in there and seeing how 
often how people looked was so 

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mismatched from how they talked 
about themselves. 

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But I was still really 
struggling. 

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And so I'm a person who grows a 
lot of body hair. 

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In retrospect, now I know I have
PCOS. 

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I was diagnosed with that 
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Didn't know that at the time, 
and I remember before I posted 

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on normal news for the first 
time, I basically scrubbed my 

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body hair like it was all gone. 
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posting it was like I had to 
make my. 

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It felt like I was so scared to 
show myself I was posting 

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because I felt so terrible about
myself that it wouldn't have 

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even felt possible if I hadn't 
made myself feel a little bit 

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closer to what I'm supposed to 
look like. 

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But very quickly I could see I 
enjoyed taking pictures and 

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videos and posting them. 
I enjoy doing it any day that I 

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wanted to. 
And The thing is, my body hair 

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grows back very quickly and so I
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that either I am going to take 
fewer pictures and videos. 

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Or I'm just going to say, oh, a 
little bit of hair is growing 

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back on my thighs, for example. 
Oh, well. 

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And then over time, I've 
actually found out there's a lot

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of people who actually love 
hairy women or a lot of people 

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who love fat women or a lot of 
people who love women or people 

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in general, anything who don't 
wear makeup. 

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Like right now I'm wearing 
absolutely no makeup. 

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I, I actually was going to put 
on some just like glitter 

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eyeshadow as I've been playing 
with recently, but I just kind 

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of ran out of time. 
But in general I've, you know, I

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wear makeup every once in a 
while and, but hardly ever. 

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And when I do, it's mostly just 
the eyeliner and mascara. 

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It's not anything that's like to
cover my face or that. 

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And I've thought about that also
with this face reveal is I think

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a lot of people would say, well,
I'm going to be showing my eyes 

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for the first time. 
Maybe I should, you know, put on

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extra makeup and maybe maybe I 
might sometime this month I 

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might put on some makeup and do 
a photo shoot like that as well.

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But I'm certainly not going to 
do that like in. 

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Everything you got to do what's 
best for you, you know, And it's

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very interesting because you, 
you hit so many topics like one.

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Let's talk about body hair. 
I'm I'm going to out my own self

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now. 
This is what I like to do on 

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sapphires. 
Your place. 

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Sometimes I'd like to go back in
the archives and say I'm sorry I

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done fucked up. 
I was one of those women as a 

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woman. 
I mean it's the the more you get

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to know me in person. 
A lot of people know to notice 

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two things about me. 
First, it's my voice and it's my

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skin. 
They touch my skin. 

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They're like, Oh my God, your 
skin is so smooth. 

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Then they look at my arms. 
They're like, bitch, what? 

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Where's your hair? 
You're not hairy. 

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But I'm like, yeah, I for the 
longest, I used to be envious of

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the girls who had to shave 
because it took me the longest. 

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And then once I started shaving,
it became like, frustrating 

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because my hair grows back very 
short and thin. 

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So, you know, I can go 4 weeks 
and it will still look like a 

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little boy stubble, you know, 
and a lot of people are not 

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blessed with that. 
However, as a queer woman who 

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loves, loves the ladies, y'all, 
you know, I love the ladies. 

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I was so particular about the 
women. 

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I would go down on to the point 
where it's like body hair. 

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I, I didn't care how fine she 
was if she did not take care of 

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herself down there if a vulva 
because I've been with trans 

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folks and non binary folks. 
If someone's body hair was too 

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long for my liking, I'd get the 
ick. 

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You know, I couldn't just get 
over that ick. 

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And in fact, I don't even think 
my girlfriend knows this until I

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started dating her. 
And, you know, she started 

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embracing her body hair. 
I became more attractive to her 

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body hair. 
It's kind of weird to see her if

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she's not, you know, having a 
little stubble, you know, 

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underneath her arms or like, 
growing it out or she has like, 

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a nice, beautiful Bush. 
That's like, now I embrace that.

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However, do I want that for all 
my partners? 

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No, and and that's just my hang 
up, but I am now seeing the body

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hair acceptance being seen not 
just in porn, but also in the 

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mainstream media. 
We're seeing more women and 

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more, you know, bodies of the 
female anatomy and those who 

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are, you know, queer, non 
binary, showing their body hair.

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And you know, I, I love the 
dyeing of the armpits or the 

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dyeing of the the bushes. 
I'm like, yes, free that hair 

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bitches. 
Like come on, let her fly, you 

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know, make you're purple like my
pube, like no, and people have 

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asked me like, oh, what about 
your pubes? 

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I'm like, I ain't got no pubes. 
There's no there's no purple 

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pussy hair down there, But I 
really do. 

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I really am for this whole new 
change of normalizing the news. 

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I, I did check out that Reddit 
feed that you were talking 

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about, you know, normalized 
nudity. 

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And I love how it's, it's, it's 
more of like a body positivity 

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and uplifting kind of form and 
not this, you know, the Reddit 

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fuckery that we see where it's 
only horny in cells and, you 

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know, adult entertainers just 
trying to catfish for more nudes

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and you know, and all that. 
But it's beyond me. 

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But I do love that there's the 
normalizing nudity and not like 

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making it a sex thing. 
It's just reclaiming body 

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positivity, gaining you that 
confidence. 

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How is that confidence made you 
in the bedroom in your private 

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life, if you don't mind me 
prying into that? 

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Yeah, so I would say that my 
private sex life and also my 

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public sex life as I've been 
sharing, showing myself 

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masturbating for all this time 
have definitely affected each 

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other. 
Oh, in fact, I can remember, I 

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can remember sort of similar 
parallels of getting comfy with 

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beings seen as hairy in my 
personal life. 

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So I remember in 2017 I was 
dating several people. 

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I'm polyamorous and so also 
date, you know. 

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However, many people make sense 
based on attraction. 

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I'm polyamorous too. 
So Polly knows Polly baby? 

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Yeah. 
And I remember when I was 

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starting to date, I was dating 
these two people, mostly these 

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two people at the same time. 
And that year particularly was 

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just a really big year in terms 
of self exploration and dating 

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and just many, many things. 
And I remember feeling 

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self-conscious about the fact 
that my leg hair have grown out,

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I think. 
And I remember one time, or I 

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remember a few times, I'm 
actually, I'm having a little 

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trouble remembering which of 
these was with which person. 

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But I remember there were 
instances in which, for example,

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I told one person I was dating 
that I hadn't removed my leg 

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hair. 
And he was just like, oh, who 

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cares? 
It doesn't matter. 

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And just seeing how he just 
absolutely didn't care was 

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really helpful for me. 
And I also want to say that as 

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you talked about, some people 
really do have preferences. 

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And I don't assume much about if
somebody does have preferences, 

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it doesn't bother me if somebody
does prefer less body hair, but 

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it's we're probably just not 
going to be a match. 

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And so like, as I've been in the
body hair world a little bit 

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more, I hear how people talk 
about these things. 

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And so for example, I've heard 
some people mentioned that I 

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know some people prefer no body 
hair or very little body hair 

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because the body hair covers 
what's there and they want to 

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see more of what's there. 
That makes sense to me. 

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Or for some people, hair, like 
hair in your mouth or hair on 

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your hands cannot feel very 
good. 

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Or maybe if you know a little 
bit of the pubic hair is left in

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your mouth. 
Now, for some people that is 

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their dream. 
For other people it's a 

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nightmare. 
And including, I also have heard

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people talk about this from a 
like a sensory perspective. 

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I'm also autistic, diagnosed a 
few years ago. 

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Or I mean, also just in the 
sense of one more thing about 

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me. 
And so when I hear other 

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autistic people talk about 
sensory things and their own 

444
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,680
body hair, body hair of other 
people, these can all be really,

445
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,080
really intense. 
Absolutely. 

446
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:20,280
One incident that stands out to 
me is one time I hooked up with 

447
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:28,600
a person who was into me, but I 
think in kind of a mixed 

448
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,680
feelings kind of way. 
It. 

449
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,920
Wasn't his usual type. 
OK. 

450
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,160
Complex thing to know. 
Girl, how much time do we got? 

451
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,560
Because we all have been in 
these situations where it's just

452
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,840
like, I like you, but there's 
like there's some, you know? 

453
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:54,120
Yeah, I've, I've actually had 
quite a few fans reach out and 

454
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,240
tell me something like, I'm not 
usually attracted to somebody 

455
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,160
who looks like you, but I am. 
And I have mixed feelings about 

456
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,440
it. 
On the one hand, it's one more 

457
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,760
time of somebody saying I don't 
find people like you attractive.

458
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,280
On the other hand, they're 
saying but you are so attractive

459
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,720
to me that you overcame all of 
that. 

460
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,920
And in many cases what they're 
really saying and what people 

461
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,800
have told me is that I've 
actually opened their eyes to 

462
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,600
being attracted to a wider range
of people. 

463
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,160
It's exciting. 
I. 

464
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,760
Remember 1. 
I love that. 

465
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,040
I love that. 
Thank. 

466
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,560
You. 
Yeah, me too. 

467
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,160
And I have on my website I have 
I have a like a fan mail slash 

468
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,240
hate mail page and I have some 
comments on there like that and 

469
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,080
I love it. 
So this this this guy I was 

470
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:52,960
talking about that I hooked up 
with, I remember I it was one of

471
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,600
those days where I could have 
removed my body hair and I 

472
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,480
probably figured it was more 
likely he'd be into me if I did 

473
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,640
and I wasn't at the moment that 
I was getting ready for my day. 

474
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,840
I knew I liked him. 
I wasn't even sure if he liked 

475
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:06,880
me. 
I didn't know if we were hanging

476
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,200
out as just friends or more. 
Don't you love those moments? 

477
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,240
And I remember I needed more 
sleep that day. 

478
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,840
And so I just chose. 
I was like, Nope, I'm just going

479
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:23,920
to go as is. 
And I remember when my shirt 

480
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:29,960
came off, he looked at my chest 
And just the way my body hair 

481
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,680
manifests is I just, it's kind 
of hidden, right? 

482
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,680
But it's like somewhere right 
around here, I have a patch of 

483
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,440
hair. 
And it's interesting because it 

484
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,360
turns out it's something that 
actually quite a few people are 

485
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,640
fans of. 
And I've kind of, I've actually 

486
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,880
come to like it. 
I'm like over here looking, I 

487
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,120
have like a little strands in my
cleave line and a lot of people 

488
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,080
don't notice it. 
Like it's my biggest insecurity 

489
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,880
and we'll talk about that in a 
second, but go on. 

490
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,040
I I'm like I feel scene without 
showing titty. 

491
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,840
And he looked at me like he just
stared with this almost 

492
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,520
disgusted look on his face right
there. 

493
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:12,440
And I, it was such a wild moment
because I remember telling him, 

494
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,800
don't look at somebody who 
you've asked, like he asked to 

495
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,320
see me topless. 
He he while I did a sort of hit 

496
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,360
on him. 
It was very clear he wanted 

497
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,720
things to keep moving. 
And so I told him, don't look at

498
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,000
somebody who you've asked to see
topless like like that would 

499
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,880
discuss. 
You you were telling him mid in 

500
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,640
the moment, like mid top. 
Yeah, I love that. 

501
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,440
I think so. 
Yeah, because I recently, I 

502
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,640
recently rewatched a 5 minute 
story that I told about this at 

503
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,600
an open mic. 
And yeah, that's, that's what I 

504
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,240
said. 
And I, it was such a wild 

505
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,320
experience because when I saw 
that look of disgust on his 

506
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,320
face, or at least what I 
proceeded to disgust, he might 

507
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,040
have just been being stunned. 
Obviously, he wasn't used to 

508
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,400
seeing a hairy woman. 
You know. 

509
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,200
He just wasn't used to it and 
and I'm sure also my 

510
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,960
insecurities are flooding in and
affecting how I interpreted it, 

511
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,200
but I absolutely assumed that 
the moment was over. 

512
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,360
I thought he wasn't into me and 
that would have been fine. 

513
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,600
You can stop at any moment. 
However, he was still into me 

514
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,480
and we hooked up. 
Was it good? 

515
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:21,000
Was it worth a call back? 
You know, it was an interesting 

516
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,840
experience we both got off. 
But interestingly, I've never 

517
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,400
had this happen before. 
I think we both asked each 

518
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,880
other, did you come? 
And neither of us realized it. 

519
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,920
And so I think we were just 
really like not synced up. 

520
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,840
And so one reason, one reason I 
could I wasn't positive that he 

521
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:46,400
had come is because I almost 
always use condoms for oral sex.

522
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,560
And so, you know, when you come 
in a in a condom, it's just a 

523
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,880
different experience. 
It is. 

524
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,480
And so like, I just couldn't 
feel that. 

525
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,840
But yeah, he so apparently he 
was really, in fact, at one 

526
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,560
moment he looked up or maybe 
looked down on me while I was 

527
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,840
going down, something like that.
And he said, you are so hot. 

528
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,800
And it was in a way like 
validating. 

529
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,080
And also it was just a real, it 
was just everything all at once.

530
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,680
And I don't, I don't think we 
would ever hook up again. 

531
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,880
We've seen each other since 
then. 

532
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,000
But it was an interesting 
experience. 

533
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,480
But I think while I like the 
fact that, you know, I'm, I like

534
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,720
the fact that we had a good 
time. 

535
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,960
I like the fact that I opened 
his mind about who he could be 

536
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,120
attracted to. 
I also realized that, you know, 

537
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,440
he probably wasn't as into me as
I mean, he certainly wasn't as 

538
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,840
into me as pretty much everyone 
else I've ever hooked up with. 

539
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,440
And I don't really want to hook 
up with people who aren't super 

540
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,440
into me. 
Like, I'm fine with it if they 

541
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,160
have. 
I don't know, It's like I'm 

542
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,680
still trying to make sense of 
all of it. 

543
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:58,400
But what I like now is that 
because I am increasingly open 

544
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:04,480
about who I am and I dress more 
authentically, I speak more 

545
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,880
authentically. 
People kind of know what they're

546
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,440
getting into. 
I love wearing dresses and my 

547
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,960
hairy legs are very visible 
under my dresses. 

548
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,960
And so when somebody is into me,
I know that they are either 

549
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,920
specifically into me exactly as 
I am, like maybe they're into 

550
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:25,600
body hair, or maybe they're just
into me and they're neutral on 

551
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,560
body hair. 
If they have issues with body 

552
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,239
hair, that's totally fine. 
I'm just not going to be the 

553
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,199
person that they should be 
hooking up with or flirting 

554
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:37,320
with. 
Exactly. 

555
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:40,159
And you know what it's it's, I'm
glad that you said that because 

556
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:43,000
again, I and I could hear the 
hesitancy and it sounds like 

557
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,000
you're like, I shouldn't have 
standards. 

558
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:50,239
No, fuck that in 2025. 
And I've been telling people be 

559
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,199
in your selfish era and it is, 
it is fine to have standards. 

560
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,440
It is OK to have and like what 
you like. 

561
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,320
It's the way that you present 
what you like, what you like 

562
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,840
with another person or anybody 
that you're in a, a situation 

563
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,000
with. 
And you know, I dare I say 

564
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,160
polyamory is kind of one of the 
reasons why I have been more 

565
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,640
accepting of the body types that
I hook up with. 

566
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,880
And I would say that you're 
you're nodding your head too, 

567
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,360
that maybe this is also opened a
way to know what you like 

568
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:25,440
because again, we are so 
presented in a mainstream 

569
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,240
society what a sexual attraction
should be. 

570
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,960
The person has to be fit. 
The person has to be full faced 

571
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,800
makeup. 
They got to be clean. 

572
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,560
First of all. 
Yes, you got to be clean. 

573
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,960
I don't want somebody to be 
funky and nasty. 

574
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,000
And there's a difference between
being clean and being testing 

575
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,280
negative and positively. 
Notice how I didn't incorporate 

576
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,640
that y'all, because that's a big
thing. 

577
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,400
But we are told in society that 
you have to be clean, you have 

578
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:02,000
to be STDSTI free, you have to 
be, you know, under £150, small 

579
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:07,320
waist, big breast, blonde or a 
brunette or spicy Latina or, you

580
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,160
know, a quick hood rat bitch. 
As we all know, in some of 

581
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,880
these, you know, porns, and 
that's not the case. 

582
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,080
There are people like you and I,
normal folks or, you know, 

583
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:24,200
normal folks who are trying to 
normalize what adult content is 

584
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,040
out there in society and, and 
saying like, Hey, I like you, 

585
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,240
you like me. 
We, we are not, you know, Met 

586
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,760
Gala material. 
But hey, if our bodies are 

587
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,920
colliding and we're having a 
good time, who the fuck cares? 

588
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,560
I think that's really what it 
comes down to. 

589
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,880
You know, even like with dating 
apps, I I fuck in love that I'm 

590
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,840
not on dating apps anymore 
because I found it being such as

591
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,760
toxic society. 
Look at how the origins of 

592
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,800
Facebook started. 
That was, you know, the flip of 

593
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,200
hot or not. 
You know, remember we had those 

594
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,720
games, hot or not all the time 
and again, it shouldn't be that 

595
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,400
way. 
It shouldn't matter if you're 

596
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,200
hot or not to a body standard. 
If your body is calling to 

597
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,400
another person's body or bodies,
explore it. 

598
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,200
Explore it consensually explore 
it. 

599
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:20,360
Please, I just I, I don't know, 
it's just over the years as I'm 

600
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:25,440
now progressing into my 
seriously almost one 40s I'm I'm

601
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,920
36 y'all God damn been doing 
this for a long time and I've 

602
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,000
definitely have changed, You 
know, the way that I perceive 

603
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,120
women's bodies. 
I embrace a full figure woman as

604
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,560
a full figure woman myself. 
You were talking about weight, 

605
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,840
you know, fluctuating. 
I used to be an athlete and I, 

606
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,280
you know, sometimes I don't like
to look at old pictures of 

607
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:53,240
myself because I know back then,
even in my sports culture, I 

608
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:57,360
thought I was fat. 
I was told I was fat, you know, 

609
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,320
being muscular and big harmed. 
And my biggest insecurities are 

610
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,560
my arms and my gut. 
And yet as I got into more of 

611
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,200
the adult industry, even behind 
the scenes, there were more 

612
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,960
women and men that were like, no
stuff like you're a good looking

613
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,520
woman. 
You need to own that. 

614
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,240
Own and embrace your sexuality 
in whichever way possible. 

615
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,640
And showing news doesn't always 
have to be the way to reclaim 

616
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,880
your sexuality. 
And I love bringing it back to 

617
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:32,480
you, you gal Mariah, I love 
again how you have embraced the 

618
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,120
old school culture of like a 
little ankle, a little wrist. 

619
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,880
That's an attraction. 
And I'm talking about the way 

620
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,520
that you showed your eyes. 
I've seen you in a lot of your 

621
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,600
pictures. 
And I have to say it takes a 

622
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,080
strong woman in today's society 
and right now where we are 

623
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,880
battling our bodies, it takes a 
strong woman like yourself to 

624
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,160
fully say fuck society 
standards. 

625
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,960
This is me. 
You're either going to love me 

626
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,920
or you're not going to love me, 
but I'm going to still love me. 

627
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,000
And there's going to be somebody
out there for me. 

628
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,960
So I love that you stand on that
business. 

629
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:15,400
I think that for those people 
who want somebody who looks like

630
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,600
the people who usually you see 
in porn, that's great. 

631
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,640
There's plenty of them. 
I have nothing against that. 

632
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,320
But there's also the rest of us 
who are existing. 

633
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:35,640
And at least for me, I I think I
like to make content that just 

634
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:42,480
feels authentic and I also can 
experience viscerally for myself

635
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:49,000
that just for myself, my type in
people is not usually the Super 

636
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,920
conventional like conventionally
attractive people like I. 

637
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,760
One thing that I've actually 
been recognizing for myself is 

638
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:04,880
that if I had only met very 
feminine looking women, and only

639
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,120
feminine looking women who 
didn't have. 

640
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,360
Much body hair. 
I don't even think I would have 

641
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,600
realized that I am queer. 
I'm definitely queer. 

642
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,600
I'm. 
Attracted to I'm pansexual 

643
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,880
attracted to people regardless 
of gender, but my type in women 

644
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,640
is not generally very feminine 
women. 

645
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,480
And so while I I wouldn't say 
that Harry is specifically my 

646
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,520
type, I have noticed that it 
does sometimes spark my 

647
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,320
attraction. 
Like the first moment that I 

648
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:45,600
realized that I was not straight
is I was in a it happened to be 

649
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,880
a women's studies class, which 
for some reason, I think it's 

650
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,960
kind of just a funny. 
Little bit actually. 

651
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,760
As someone who like similar, 
it's like yes it's either you 

652
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,840
took a sexuality class in 
college, you had a lesbian 

653
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,160
experience, or you took a 
women's studies class. 

654
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,320
All of the above. 
Right. 

655
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,800
So I looked over at one of my 
classmates who is gorgeous, like

656
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,200
absolutely gorgeous. 
And in fact, actually this 

657
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,680
particular classmate is really 
classically attractive. 

658
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:22,160
And I looked over and I noticed 
that her her the hair on her leg

659
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,720
or that her legs were very 
hairy. 

660
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:31,560
And in that moment, I swear I 
thought to myself, oh, I think 

661
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,600
that I'm bisexual. 
Hey, you'd like what you like. 

662
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,040
The moment I knew, that's the 
moment I knew. 

663
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:43,320
And I think it's because I am 
attracted to, I think I'm 

664
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:49,080
attracted to masculinity, not 
like extreme masculinity, but it

665
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,760
seems that especially in women 
and AFAB people, I do like 

666
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,520
masculinity or maybe also 
androgyny. 

667
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,640
And so there have been several 
times there was somebody else 

668
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:05,040
who another person way later, 
way more than one of the most 

669
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:09,640
attractive women I've ever seen 
in my life. 

670
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:15,000
And as I was talking to her, I 
realized that she had a kind of 

671
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,640
a faint mustache and something 
about all of that together, just

672
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:26,320
that raw gorgeousness. 
I mean I could barely even talk,

673
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,760
like I'm so into her. 
I love that. 

674
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,800
For me, because even though 
sometimes I'm still struggling 

675
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,160
with unwinding all these things,
I still sometimes will. 

676
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,640
I still often have insecure 
thoughts. 

677
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,000
But the fact that not only have 
I had a decade of having people 

678
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:51,000
both on the Internet and in real
life engage with me as a sexy 

679
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,240
person, but also because I can 
viscerally feel that I am 

680
00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:00,040
attracted to people who growing 
up, I was told aren't the kind 

681
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,760
of people that one is attracted 
to. 

682
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,440
And in fact, on the rare 
occasions that I am attracted to

683
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:11,000
somebody who does look more 
classically attractive, I find 

684
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,880
myself shocked actually. 
I mean, the people I'm attracted

685
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,560
to, I, I end up with a lot of 
crushes and many of them are 

686
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,200
like really are truly attractive
people. 

687
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,280
But even if you look at it just 
as like objectively, but I 

688
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,920
remember one time I met 
somebody, actually I met them at

689
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,800
a sex party and this person 
looks like an Adonis, just like 

690
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:39,800
literally movie star appearance.
And I remember thinking like, I 

691
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,480
was so attracted to them, to, to
him and finding myself thinking,

692
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,680
wow, this is absolutely not my 
type. 

693
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,520
Yeah. 
And so, you know, it's like I 

694
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,640
can surprise myself in many 
different directions. 

695
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,760
And so. 
Yeah. 

696
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,280
Do you find yourself like even 
surprising yourself, especially 

697
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,920
at a sex party or any type of 
like queer event where 

698
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:01,880
attraction could be like on the 
menu? 

699
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,480
Have you ever found yourself in 
those situations where you're 

700
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,080
like, damn, that person is so 
attractive but like there is no 

701
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,520
way in hell they're interested 
in me. 

702
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,640
And then all of a sudden it's 
like conversation or something 

703
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,240
happens and they sound their own
to you and you're like, oh, 

704
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:20,600
fuck, OK, this, this is the 
moment. 

705
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,560
Like, oh, oh, you want me? 
You want me? 

706
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:29,760
Have you ever had those moments?
I've had moments like that and 

707
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,520
so that actually reminds me that
this particular anecdote is not 

708
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,920
about a party, but not about in 
real life, but it reminds me I 

709
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:42,800
want to share about the one type
of message that I will sometimes

710
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:51,720
get is people reaching out and 
telling me essentially they're 

711
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:58,200
really into me, even though I 
they are way out of my leak. 

712
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,400
I've had people actually tell me
this on like for example. 

713
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,840
The ones I'm thinking about are 
messages on Reddit. 

714
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,360
Oh my God, you should have 
pulled some of those good ones 

715
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,360
up and like us just just 
psyched. 

716
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,200
I psyched that. 
Oh my God, that's. 

717
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,000
Yeah, I help to check to see if 
I have those. 

718
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,720
I think I might have a few one 
or two messages like that on my 

719
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:20,040
fan mail, right? 
And also I haven't updated my 

720
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,000
fan mail page in year so I need 
to scour for more comments. 

721
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:26,280
Y'all need to check. 
I'll put the website in the link

722
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,320
of the bio. 
But I mean of this episode. 

723
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,960
But that is hilarious to me 
because it's just like on Tinder

724
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,240
too. 
The same things would happen, 

725
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,400
like, oh, normally you're not 
the type I go for, but like, 

726
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,000
there's just something about 
you. 

727
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,080
I just got to have like, OK, 
yeah, I think. 

728
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,760
I think that kind of comment 
about leagues, it's fascinating 

729
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,840
because first of all, they're 
being rude. 

730
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,200
It's a backhanded compliment, 
yeah. 

731
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,480
It's very rude to say this like 
they're like by objective 

732
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,400
standards, I am much more 
attractive attractive than you. 

733
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,880
OK, thanks. 
But second of all, the the 

734
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:16,720
entire premise of leagues says 
that there's something about 

735
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,960
that we can assess people based 
on numbers. 

736
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,400
And I've thought about this 
sometimes because I've thought 

737
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,960
about as I'm going doing this 
media tour, I've thought about 

738
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,480
maybe going on some on some 
shows that are less friendly. 

739
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,840
And when I watch, I don't. 
Usually. 

740
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,080
Watch things too many but too 
often, but some of these shows 

741
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,920
they'll have people on and 
they'll have women on and say 

742
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,920
and ask how would you rate 
yourself? 

743
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:47,040
And so I thought about that and 
on some sort of objective or 

744
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,800
like not objective, but like 
what they would call the 

745
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,640
objective is I would rate 
relatively low, like at a 

746
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,280
maximum medium. 
I don't know. 

747
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,960
I don't know how to do it, but 
it's fascinating because to 

748
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:07,920
people who are into me, if they 
consider what they find hot, I'm

749
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:13,160
like melting off the page hot, 
you know, they like, there's 

750
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,040
some people who I've experienced
this to some extent in real 

751
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,280
life, but I think also if I were
ever to meet like fans in real 

752
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,760
life, you know, they'd be so 
into me they wouldn't be able to

753
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,720
even form words, that kind of 
thing, you know, and. 

754
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,360
And they are there. 
They are there, yeah. 

755
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,320
And yet, and so those numbers 
don't really make sense. 

756
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:38,040
And the leagues thing, I do 
think it's true that probably on

757
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,680
average, people who are more 
classically attractive tend to 

758
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,680
be attracted to people who are 
more classically attractive. 

759
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,400
I suspect that's true for a wide
variety of reasons. 

760
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,640
But the idea that leagues are 
this impenetrable thing where if

761
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,520
somebody is looks, you know, 
fits into the upper part of the 

762
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,800
section, you know, upper part of
the scale, then they're not 

763
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,960
going to be attracted to people 
who are in the lower or middle 

764
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,800
still part of the scale. 
Well, this person reaching out 

765
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,360
to me is clearly attracted to 
me. 

766
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,040
Why else would they be reaching 
out to? 

767
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:08,560
Me. 
Why would they be? 

768
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,400
Looking at my pictures, why 
would they care enough to reach 

769
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,760
out? 
And like I said, this happened 

770
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:18,080
multiple times and so clearly 
it's not these separate leagues.

771
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:20,680
So these messages, oh man, it's 
like. 

772
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,440
The it's the mixed messages. 
It's the mixed messages. 

773
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,120
And like you said, it's the 
numbers game and dare I say 

774
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,320
because I mean in so culture is 
still very new to me. 

775
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,160
I just call them what they are. 
Y'all are fuck boys and there's 

776
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,280
fuck girls that are just the 
same way. 

777
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:43,360
It's just I don't understand how
somebody who hates themselves so

778
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,160
much that they want to just go 
out and terrorize everybody else

779
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,800
because they're getting 
pleasure. 

780
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,880
I don't understand that culture 
at all. 

781
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,920
And I don't understand how, you 
know, people hide behind 

782
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,520
screens, for instance, and they 
will say whatever the fuck they 

783
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:04,080
want to say, knowing that when 
you are a woman, they were 

784
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,840
brought in this world by a 
woman. 

785
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:09,800
They were probably raised by a 
woman and they probably are 

786
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:14,720
protecting the women. 
I just never understood any of 

787
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:20,120
that, how somebody can just be 
so cruel and thinking like, let 

788
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:26,480
me just go to this girl's site, 
tell her I'm this studly man who

789
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,360
would probably never fuck her on
site. 

790
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,960
However, there's something very 
minuscule about you that makes 

791
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,320
me sexually aroused. 
Send I I don't understand that 

792
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,040
culture at all. 
I don't understand it at all 

793
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,480
because you would never say it 
to a woman's face. 

794
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,360
You, I mean, if you are saying 
these to people's faces, good 

795
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,880
riddance. 
Because if you say that to me, 

796
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,840
honey, yeah, arrest me on site. 
Actually, no, fuck the cops. 

797
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,120
Don't arrest me on site. 
I have every right to beat your 

798
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:03,160
ass for whatever you said about 
me because I I didn't wake up 

799
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,120
today thinking I was an ugly 
person, but you wanted to just 

800
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,800
make it a part of your agenda to
make me feel ugly. 

801
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,400
Get the fuck out of my way. 
Like, no, you deserve to be 

802
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:18,240
castrated, beaten, all that 
without repercussions, period. 

803
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,360
You deserve that. 
There's a special place for you,

804
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,560
You deserve that. 
Sorry, that got me on my little 

805
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:31,360
sapphire soapbox for a second. 
You just reminded me of another 

806
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,960
mean comment that I wanted to 
share. 

807
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,320
About OH. 
This one was more recent. 

808
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,960
I was in my Reddit inbox and I 
saw somebody had reached out and

809
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,360
then just said hi. 
And I think it was at a time 

810
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,920
when I was responding and I was 
just kind of like, oh, hey, 

811
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,120
check out my other. 
Link I don't. 

812
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,320
Usually respond to other inboxes
but I did their next their their

813
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:57,600
next message response to me was 
your teeth look like shark teeth

814
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,040
or something like I forgot what 
it was but it was clearly like 

815
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:05,160
an insult on my teeth and. 
I'm looking at your teeth. 

816
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,400
I'm like, I watch shark week. 
You don't got shark teeth. 

817
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:11,520
You got good teeth. 
OK, You got a good mouth. 

818
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,360
As someone who will literally 
fixate on like someone's flaw 

819
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,080
for the longest, like I I won't 
be that guy in Austin Powers. 

820
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,880
It's like mole, mole. 
But I'm like, no, your teeth 

821
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,200
look fine. 
You got good teeth. 

822
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,400
Yeah, they, I don't know if I 
know that in some photos you can

823
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,240
see they have a little of 
discoloration. 

824
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:31,760
So I don't know if that's what 
he was. 

825
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,920
But that's normal. 
But yeah, but, and again, I 

826
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,400
don't usually respond to these 
things, but I just, I guess I 

827
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,920
just did. 
And so I just responded. 

828
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,400
I saw this message like a while 
after he had sent. 

829
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:49,840
So I responded back and I said 
something like, I hope you're in

830
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,000
therapy for whatever LED you to 
feel that that was a reasonable 

831
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,600
thing to message somebody. 
And then he responded to me and 

832
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,080
said, don't worry, I am. 
So apparently this person is in 

833
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,680
therapy because he realizes that
something has gone wrong. 

834
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,120
Well, at least he admitted it. 
Like thank you for for admitting

835
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,080
you're getting help, but like 
you still took time out of your 

836
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,800
day to talk about my teeth to 
make yourself feel better. 

837
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,720
You know, I just remember why it
was that I even responded about 

838
00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:22,120
the I hope you, you know, see 
therapy. 

839
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,760
I think it's because I didn't 
respond. 

840
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,920
Actually, I didn't respond after
he had said the thing about the 

841
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,000
shark teeth. 
That's why would I. 

842
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,680
Right. 
And then maybe weeks or months 

843
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:36,400
later he sent me another message
out of nowhere and said I'm 

844
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,720
sorry for the rude message I 
sent. 

845
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,440
You were the only one whoever 
responded to me anyway, so it 

846
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,640
was something like maybe. 
A message. 

847
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,640
And so it was so weird, like why
is he messaging me? 

848
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,200
Clearly when he first reached 
down the 1st place, I'm guessing

849
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,400
he was into me. 
So clearly there's something and

850
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,880
then I don't really know what 
happened, but for some reason at

851
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,760
some point he's insulting me 
with something about shark 

852
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,480
teeth, which by the way, I, I 
don't even know. 

853
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,920
Like what is the, are there some
sort of stereotypes about shark 

854
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,560
teeth? 
And I don't even know. 

855
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,360
What I I've heard the one like 
you look like your your your 

856
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,040
teeth like you two rocks all 
day. 

857
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,560
But I've never heard shark 
tooth. 

858
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,440
So if somebody, if there's the 
shark tooth theory, please slide

859
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,840
into Gal Mariah and I's emails, 
OK? 

860
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,760
Please, like, debunk this shit 
right now, yeah. 

861
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,520
Let us know. 
But seriously, it's crazy how 

862
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,760
you know people are just so 
late. 

863
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,240
That's why I really hate social 
media. 

864
00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:35,640
I really host. 
I really hate social media. 

865
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,680
I hate the culture. 
Excuse me, I'm still coming off 

866
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:44,520
of this like bronchitis, but 
it's the fact that you just it 

867
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:49,360
it the fact that people just sit
around on the screen all day 

868
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,280
long and some people will pay 
for these services. 

869
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:58,000
Someone might have paid for your
services for your pictures and 

870
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,840
wait. 
Instead of embracing these 

871
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,760
pictures, you want to mark every
flaw. 

872
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,000
Like what the fuck is wrong with
y'all? 

873
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,200
Like if that's because if if 
that's what gets you off, like 

874
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,480
fine, keep it to yourself. 
But if you're like paying 

875
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:15,360
somebody and they're not asking 
you to degrade them, don't 

876
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,360
degrade their pictures, OK? 
Don't degrade them. 

877
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:25,280
Luckily, I don't think I think 
everybody who's actually paid 

878
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,280
for my content, like everybody 
behind my Only Fans or Fans 

879
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,960
leave paywall. 
I don't think I've ever had 

880
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,200
anything mean there. 
Everyone's been super nice. 

881
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:34,960
Good makes. 
Sense even just, you know, a 

882
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,640
small fee per month and it like 
cuts a lot of that. 

883
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,800
And that's partly why people say
that if you have certain sites, 

884
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,120
people can pay you on then and 
turn off the inboxes on the rest

885
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,480
or just don't look at them for 
many reasons. 

886
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,640
But yeah, it's there is 
something about anonymity that 

887
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,840
makes it so that people feel 
like they can just say anything 

888
00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:01,200
or maybe they're just 
desensitized. 

889
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:06,320
They see us as just numbers or 
something. 

890
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:13,960
And for me, I find it kind of 
mind boggling because I'm a 

891
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,800
person who's sharing vulnerably 
online. 

892
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,680
A lot of my content is doesn't 
mention the body image stuff, 

893
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,400
but still body image things, 
they come up or some some of my 

894
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,000
captions, we'll be honest about 
it. 

895
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,280
Or the fact that I have come to 
this because of originally and 

896
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,760
honestly still struggling with 
body image things. 

897
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,840
And so the fact that somebody 
would insult somebody, not even 

898
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,560
just a random person, but 
somebody who's being honest 

899
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,640
about the fact that they have 
struggled with body image issues

900
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,640
is just. 
It's sad. 

901
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,400
Terrible behavior. 
It's sad and it's terrible and 

902
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:58,080
in imagine this y'all, some of 
the people that you may think 

903
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:03,240
have all the self body 
confidence in the world are the 

904
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:07,760
most insecure people. 
I myself, you know, come off as 

905
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,600
a very confident individual, but
that's something that I'm 

906
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,360
personally working on. 
I, I told you about, you know, 

907
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,640
my insecurity with my arms and 
my gut. 

908
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,200
But I do have a lot of 
insecurities where it's hard for

909
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:26,360
me to validate myself. 
So I seek validity in others and

910
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,800
the people that I surround 
myself to say, OK, I guess I am 

911
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,480
worth it. 
And that's something that I'm 

912
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,360
working on personally. 
We're all working on something. 

913
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,400
And that's why I'm so glad, Gal 
Mariah, you came on here because

914
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,400
it is not easy to do what you 
do. 

915
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,680
And for you being the person 
that you are and, and being so 

916
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:51,360
vulnerable with your body and 
yourself, I cannot wait to see 

917
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,680
what blossoms for you. 
You know, now that everything is

918
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,640
out in the open, I really want 
to like touch back with you in 

919
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,320
like 6 months or a year and see 
like where you've gone. 

920
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,160
I want to see you just 
continuing this, this 

921
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,680
flourishing body positivity 
movement that you are bringing 

922
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,040
to your art. 
Bringing it back to that, You 

923
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,200
know what we were saying in the 
beginning, Is there anything 

924
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,440
that you want people to take 
away from this? 

925
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,760
Any final words like a final 
climax you want to give people? 

926
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:28,720
One thing that I really want 
people to know is that making 

927
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:33,320
content online or any, in any 
case, it's a job. 

928
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:40,760
It takes a lot of effort. 
And so people need to recognize,

929
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:45,960
I hope that if there is somebody
whose content that you've been 

930
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,640
enjoying, especially you've been
enjoying it for years, if it's 

931
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:53,480
giving you pleasure or relief, 
then if you want to increase the

932
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,920
odds that they will continue and
that they'll be other people 

933
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,520
like them who continue. 
It really, really helps if you 

934
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,840
support them ideally 
financially, but also by 

935
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,440
spreading their links, telling 
them how helpful it's been. 

936
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:15,880
And I just whatever we can do to
quash the idea that content 

937
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:21,600
creation or being an influencer 
or, you know, only fans creator,

938
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,800
all of that, that it's easy. 
There's 1000 different things 

939
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,240
that are wrong with that 
premise. 

940
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:32,400
It is very challenging. 
And by the time somebody, by the

941
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:38,840
time you have found somebody, 
whether it is a random product 

942
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,840
or a only fans creator or 
anything like that, they have 

943
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:47,160
already put in so much effort 
just for you to, to even find 

944
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,160
your for that, for you to find 
them. 

945
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,680
That is the essentially 
invisible nature of marketing. 

946
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:58,280
And so when people say, oh, why,
why should I, why should I pay, 

947
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,560
you know, good money for custom 
videos or anything like that, 

948
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,640
Well, there's so much that goes 
into it. 

949
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:10,640
And if people value the pleasure
they get or the entertainment, 

950
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,760
the camaraderie, if it's the 
case where you can actually chat

951
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,680
with the person, then just 
really consider that like 

952
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,560
understand that there is value 
to that. 

953
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,600
Well said. 
And the frat boys agree. 

954
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,720
Gal Mariah. 
Oh, yes, yes, yes. 

955
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,080
Yeah. 
I just want to share one more 

956
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,520
thing. 
Yeah, which is that in my 

957
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,960
experience, in many cases, we 
can make a lot of progress by 

958
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,280
sharing what we're most insecure
about. 

959
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:48,920
And so for me, that's really 
what I've done is when there is 

960
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,760
something that I'm insecure 
about, when I'm in situations 

961
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,920
where I feel safe doing it, I 
will share that about myself. 

962
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:02,080
So posting my nudes online is a,
you know, prime example or other

963
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,720
cases in which I've dealt with 
imposter syndrome. 

964
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:11,000
Like I used to be a grad student
and I made enormous strides and 

965
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,760
feeling better about myself when
I started opening up to other 

966
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,720
people about how I was feeling 
and realizing that, oh, actually

967
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,640
most of us are having imposter 
syndrome. 

968
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:24,840
And so I think that of course 
there's there are risks when 

969
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,840
somebody shares something 
they're insecure about. 

970
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,920
It's not the right thing for 
every single setting, but if we 

971
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:37,600
can find safe people or safe 
websites or little steps and 

972
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:42,800
share what we're insecure about,
and we can do it in ways that do

973
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:47,360
have harm reduction. 
So, for example, because I 

974
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:53,160
posted online for a full decade 
without showing my eyes, that 

975
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,360
provided me a lot of safety, 
privacy in all kinds of 

976
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:00,760
different ways. 
It gave me time to explore and 

977
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,960
to share myself and to figure 
out, is this actually something 

978
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,560
that I want to be doing and 
putting my face on? 

979
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,240
And even if I'd never shared my 
face, even if I'd only posted 

980
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,480
the one time on normal news and 
not done this for the whole 

981
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,640
decade after that, there would 
have been value to all of this. 

982
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,920
So I just really want to 
encourage people that if there's

983
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,720
something that might support 
their goals, to look at it. 

984
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,720
Consider the pros and cons, 
consider how they can help 

985
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:34,600
themselves while still 
prioritizing whatever is most 

986
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:39,040
important to them. 
And help ourselves continue 

987
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,320
growing. 
And the last thing I wanted to 

988
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,040
show is just this is just we're 
talking about art. 

989
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,600
So recently a loved 1 gave me 
this cup which you can actually 

990
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,880
open this up and just put paper 
in here. 

991
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,120
So this is a little cartoon. 
Version of me. 

992
01:01:55,120 --> 01:02:01,360
So this is with basically hiding
my eyes and it says I actually I

993
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,600
don't know if it's mirrored but 
it says I can't wait for you to.

994
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,400
See, I see that. 
Yeah. 

995
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:11,640
And then one thing about this is
I do like drawing cartoons. 

996
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,400
It's something that I do and 
this version of my cartoon where

997
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,320
the eyes aren't hidden. 
The way I do it is like I 

998
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,880
basically cut a whole strip and 
don't put any of that. 

999
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:27,040
And what's interesting to me is 
that by doing that, by hiding my

1000
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:31,560
eyes, what also is invisible in 
the cartoon is other ways I 

1001
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,840
express myself. 
For example, my daily hair 

1002
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,680
flower. 
And I have these magnetic 

1003
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,080
glasses. 
So I changed them out. 

1004
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:42,360
And so while it's totally fine 
that I've been hiding my eyes 

1005
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,840
and, you know, expressing just 
what I feel comfy with, by doing

1006
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,840
that, I've also been keeping a 
lot more hidden. 

1007
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,560
And of course, the glasses, the 
colorful glasses and hair 

1008
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,480
flower, they're just one thing. 
But I think it's a symbol of the

1009
01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:00,760
fact that because I have had to 
hide myself and protect myself 

1010
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,680
in these ways all this time, 
there's also a lot else that 

1011
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,280
I've been hiding. 
And so I'm just so excited for 

1012
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,720
this next step and I'm so 
excited for this weekend and 

1013
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,640
this day. 
And thank you so much for for 

1014
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,920
being part of it. 
No, thank you. 

1015
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:17,320
Thank you again. 
I'm just like, let's give you 

1016
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,600
your fucking roses already, you 
know, I, I cannot wait to see 

1017
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,960
what happens. 
So with that said, where can the

1018
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,400
people follow you? 
Where can they get more of that 

1019
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:33,320
Gal Mariah action? 
You can find me at still in 

1020
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:38,400
metamorphosis.com. 
There's my bio, an artist 

1021
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,000
statement about how all this got
started, a gallery of nudes. 

1022
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,960
Other podcasts are the shows 
that I've been on. 

1023
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,200
And there you can also find my 
links to my only Fans and my 

1024
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,880
fans. 
And since you did tell me to be 

1025
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,240
more dominant, so it's 
pronounced Gal Maria. 

1026
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:00,160
Gal Maria, See, I'm telling 
y'all I fucked up. 

1027
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,240
I'm fucked up. 
I'm usually professional with 

1028
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,840
this. 
I'm so no, no, I'm so I'm so 

1029
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,680
sorry. 
I feel like I'm going to have to

1030
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,240
like dub this episode and be 
like Gal Maria Maria Maria 

1031
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,640
Maria. 
Yeah, Gal Maria. 

1032
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:20,120
So I have, I've had many 
different like I've complex 

1033
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,960
experience with my real name, 
which I don't share on here, and

1034
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,360
also my pseudonym. 
And in both cases they're easily

1035
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,040
mispronounced, misspelled 
everything. 

1036
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,680
So I do try to let people know 
because I know that people want 

1037
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,520
to do it right. 
You don't have to dub, it's not 

1038
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,120
a big deal, it's up to you, but 
might as well end on that 

1039
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,400
dominant note. 
I love it and you don't. 

1040
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,920
We want to see more of that. 
So Gal Maria, thank you so, so 

1041
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,080
much. 
Still in Metamorphosis and 

1042
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,800
continuing on. 
And I cannot wait to see what's 

1043
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:52,960
going to happen because girl, 
this, this factor, this glow, I 

1044
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,560
see it and I want everybody else
to recognize it. 

1045
01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:00,080
So please, please, please go and
support this beautiful woman in 

1046
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,920
Metamorphosis. 
And with that said, I'm Miss 

1047
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,600
Radio Sapphire. 
Remember that safe sex is the 

1048
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,560
best hot sex. 
Till next time, follow me at 

1049
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:13,360
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That's MSRADIOSAPHIRE. 

1050
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:19,840
Good night, that was the show 
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1051
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,800
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1052
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,520
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1053
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,480
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1055
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