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Warning, the following program 
is not for the weak hearted, 

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those who are close minded or in
general you're scared to learn 

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what's behind closed doors. 
Here at Sapphires Airplay. 

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I want you to pour the wine, 
grab somebody that you want to 

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hold on to, or better yet, get 
the vibration stimulated through

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your body. 
Get ready for one hell of an 

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orgasm in 54321. 
What is up on my sexy 

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motherfuckers out there in 
Radioland? 

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It's your girl Sapphire, back at
it again just in time for 

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Valentine's Day. 
You know it's the annual Fuck 

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Your Valentine's Day special and
I am so excited for this one 

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because I have the CEO of Desert
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house. 
For past 30 years, her company 

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wands. 
Y'all, this is, it's the episode

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for you, especially if you're 
wondering why does it hurt so 

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damn much during sites. 
If I didn't ask for the pain and

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pleasure mix. 
Well, Heather Florio is here to 

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help. 
Let's bring him the Roddy Froude

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Boys of Sapphires Airplay to 
bring you all in. 

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Thank you so much, Heather, for 
your time being here. 

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Thank you for having me. 
Yes, so I I mean when I saw this

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pitch about painful sex and you 
out of all people, you know, 

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being a woman who's backed up 
desert harvest one, I love the 

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fact that it's a woman LED. 
It seems like a woman LED brand,

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which is great. 
And I really love the fact that 

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it seems like you are just the 
go to woman when to talk about 

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vaginousness and all the other 
possible ways why sex can be so,

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so painful for women. 
In fact, when I was doing my own

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research, I was like, huh, Come 
to think of it, I've definitely 

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had some moments where sex has 
been painful. 

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But of course, you know, with a 
little bit of Lube, a little bit

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more relaxation, that has always
helped. 

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But that's not always the case 
for every woman. 

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And I know we're going to 
probably get into it, So what 

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better wait? 
What are some of the main causes

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of why sex can be so damn 
painful, especially for us 

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ladies? 
Well, there's so many different 

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reasons why sex can be painful. 
It can be that you don't fit 

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together, It can be that there 
you have pelvic floor 

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dysfunction. 
There are so many other 

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conditions. 
You mentioned vaginous, 

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ulvidinia, vestibulidinia. 
There are veronic in which you 

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might experience oral sex. 
You can be due to trauma. 

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These can be due to your pelvic 
floor itself. 

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These can be due to trauma 
somewhere else in your body. 

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There are so many different 
reasons why we can experience 

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pain with sex, but what we 
should realize is pain with sex 

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is not normal. 
Not need to trudge through it. 

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You don't need to. 
We need to use our voice and we 

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need to communicate and when 
things are uncomfortable. 

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Absolutely. 
I think that's the most, I mean,

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that is one of our themes here 
on Sapphire's earplate is 

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communication. 
And I always try to tell people 

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that, you know, sometimes it's 
the conversations that hurt the 

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most that we have to have in 
relationships in order to go 

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forward. 
Especially, like you said, how 

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do you even tell your partner 
like, hey, it's not technically 

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you, It's me. 
I'm the problem, unfortunately. 

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And they're probably women right
now who are listening, who 

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probably have gone through this 
whole thing. 

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Like, you know, come to think of
it, yeah, sex is a little bit 

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painful. 
Even just to stick a finger in 

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or, you know, tampons. 
It hurts. 

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But I don't know why. 
And so I really want women, 

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especially just all vulva owners
to really take this, you know, 

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episode to heart and know that 
it's not a you thing. 

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It is a thing there. 
I mean, hell, there are like 

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14-15 different reasons why your
vagina could possibly be 

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hurting. 
I mean, even from the most 

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common things, St. 
DS can make, you know, sex 

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extremely painful. 
I just had probably one of the 

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worst herpes outbreaks since my 
diagnosis 6 years ago. 2020 was 

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my first herpes outbreak, 
genital herpes and I I was I was

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good. 
I mean, not to say that my 

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stress levels haven't been 
through the roof, but for six 

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years I was able to kind of 
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And it was to the point where my
left leg just nerve pain 

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endings, my clitoris, you know, 
here we go. 

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This is sapphires your place. 
So it's going to get graphic, 

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y'all, but it looked like 
somebody cut a chunk of my clip 

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and left the rest on one side 
and the sores on the left and it

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was just, it's it was painful to
walk, it was painful to just 

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cross my legs, sit down and 
watch a movie. 

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It was just too painful. 
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And that that's doesn't stress 
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Mm hmm. 
Mm, hmm. 

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It's crazy. 
It is crazy how everything can. 

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Just be connected of the 
conditions are stress response 

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when you talk about Volvadenia 
unspecified, you know, ovular 

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vaginal pain like you know 
you're you're dealing with 

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unspecified pain and a lot of 
cases can be related to a stress

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response in your your 
exogenousness and put in a 

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tampon press response when you 
have a herpes outbreak and 

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you've already had herpes, 
you've already been exposed to 

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the infection. 
And then down the road you get a

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flare up like that press 
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Stress is such a big piece of 
this and it goes back to the 

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ideas of Tantra on the Tantra 
response and and utilizing 

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mantra related practices to be 
able to calm both your autatomic

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nervous system. 
It is up regulated because of 

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the stress. 
Response. 

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But then also your pelvic floor 
that is probably like this, you 

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know, I'm not in a dish rag. 
So, you know, turn so tight that

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that can be your pelvic floor. 
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And when that happens, you know,
everybody thinks, oh, my pelvic 

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floor is in pain, I need to go 
start my Kegel. 

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Don't do that. 
Really. 

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Oh yes, so when you are hyper, 
you have hydroponic pelvic floor

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and you start doing Kegel 
exercises, you are making it 

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worse. 
OK, that's the thing they don't 

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talk about. 
Let's let's get into that, 

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please. 
Yes, because everybody, you 

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know, you have this idea that I 
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I'm going to be good. 
And that's not the case. 

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You have to learn how to relax 
your food floor and bring it 

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down into relaxed state. 
And then once you've got it in a

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relaxed state, you've got to 
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So one of the best ways to do 
that is you get with a pelvic 

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floor physical therapist. 
You don't have to stay with them

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long term, but you can learn 
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You can learn what it feels like
and feel yourself and you can 

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feel when your muscles are tense
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they're relax. 
When then you know then when not

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relax, then you can hit your 
cheek exercises and start 

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strengthening your public floor 
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ladies. 
Like this is this is holding 

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your bladder, your uterus, all 
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Here it is, your hammock holding
everything in and you need to 

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make sure that hammock is 
strong, especially before you're

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engaging in and, and I mean 
technically, sex itself is a 

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problem for exercise when we're 
orgasming. 

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Think about it, you're 
tightening up and then you're 

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relaxing down. 
Exactly. 

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Oh gosh, ladies, are y'all 
listening? 

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Fellas, are you listening? 
I'm so glad because again, 

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everybody talks about kegels, 
but we don't talk about the 

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pelvic floor exercise. 
Or they try to say, oh, doing 

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your kegels coincides with 
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I'm like, no, that doesn't make 
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Pelvis, vagina, vagina muscles, 
the pelvic muscles. 

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So yeah, I might be having the 
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I, I, I know that my pelvic 
floor muscles can sometimes be 

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weakened and that's because I'm 
a couch potato. 

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I'm a couch potato and I need to
stop doing that. 

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I need to start getting up more 
and walk and like getting up and

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walking. 
So for somebody, you know, like 

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myself, who may have more time 
on their hands, what are the 

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best ways, you know, in 
affordable ways, especially 

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because everything costs money. 
Now, how can we, you know, cheat

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the system but also take care of
our our bodies the cheap way? 

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Not yet. 
So one of the best things you 

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can do is is there are easy 
things that you can do at home 

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and then there there's more 
technical things. 

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OK, so one of the best things 
that you could do with yourself 

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or with a partner, with or 
without penetrative sex is go 

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into your your area, whatever 
that might be, the area that 

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relaxes you, your bedroom, 
whatever. 

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Like that mood experience all 
the senses, whether it's touch 

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and you have to spell sheets, 
you've got put on mute mood 

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music that makes you feel good. 
And then maybe also, you know, 

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initiate and put some candles 
for said, you know, things that 

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ignite your senses and then lay 
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And if you're doing this, 
partner, you both lay down on 

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the bed by face, side by side. 
You do not touch completely 

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naked. 
All right. 

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And then you, you at a timer, 
look down your cell phone for 20

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minutes. 
And then what you do is you 

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begin touching yourself. 
Touch yourself in your breast, 

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touch your stomach, touch your 
thighs. 

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Learn all of the different parts
of your body really and gay 

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which little good to you. close 
your eyes and and pull that 

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area. 
You can literally grab the top 

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of your mom's pubis, the top 
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and we can literally grab it, 
hold it, see it sensations, grab

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the sides, your labia, you know,
and and your your majora and 

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your minora. 
You can grab both Hold on to it,

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feel it, touch it. 
You don't need to go for your 

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clitoris right now. 
You don't need to go for your, 

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your, you know that vagina. 
You don't need to insert 

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anything in there. 
Just feel yourself and then 

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slowly begin to build up by 
touching your clitoris either 

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with your fingers or with 
something like a bullet and and 

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create that sensation going to 
build yourself up and then stop 

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and go back to feeling your 
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And then so you want to bring 
yourself up and then you want to

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back off and then start feeling 
your body. 

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You continually do this back and
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Don't get yourself to orgasm 
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You start to feel that. 
And one of the things that you 

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can do when you start to get to 
that level, back off and you do 

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something called Ocean brief. 
So this is a a practice in which

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you can literally like release 
your entire body, do that over 

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and over again. 
Like that, right? 

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Yes, that deep diaphragmatic 
breathing and then release it. 

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That deep, deep breathing, bring
all the air down and then just 

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release it and that will calm 
down that that that autotomic 

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nervous. 
Just keep doing that. 

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Hide yourself that build 
yourself back up ocean, breathe 

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back down and and keep doing 
this for 20 minutes. 

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And then once that timer goes 
off, then whether it's with 

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yourself and that bullet, 
whether you feel that you can 

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have penetrated sex and feel 
comfortable at that part, maybe 

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you and your partner finish each
other off, but not with 

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penetrated sex. 
You know, there's all different 

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ways you can do this, but this 
is an easy way in which one, 

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you're engaging with your own 
body 1st and then you can engage

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with another body or you can 
just finish and engage with 

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yourself. 
But at the same time, when 

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you're finishing, you're going 
up tightening and responding and

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calming down. 
And and so you're, you're 

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creating a relaxing response for
your body that might allow 

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penetration at that point or 
might lead to other ways in 

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which you can you can fish. 
I like that because you're not 

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only just giving another way for
couples or just, you know, 

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individuals to enjoy self 
pleasure. 

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Something that especially as a 
black woman, here it is Black 

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History Month. 
Let's get into it. 

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Black women a lot of times feel 
a lot of shame touching 

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themselves or you know, having 
the need to have a partner 

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finish them off. 
Nothing irks me more than 

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talking to my girls and they're 
like, I don't understand the 

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point of masturbation if it's 
just myself. 

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And I'm like, what do you mean? 
Like it's the whole get in there

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and then it's like what? 
I'm done. 

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I'm like, I'm good. 
Yes. 

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Don't you feel good? 
Relaxed, You know, you feel like

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you can conquer the world. 
You don't have to kick somebody 

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out of your bed. 
You just got to toss the 

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batteries that the batteries are
dead, you know, clean it up. 

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I'm like, what do you mean? 
And you know, there's this whole

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taboo of like, in order to have 
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finish me off. 
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finishing is not as satisfying 
as the build up. 

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shouldn't. 
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coming and then the actual, like
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like edging each other off, you 
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have a nice session, then go 
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in the day, building that 
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tension throughout the day until
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I love that. 
The fact that you even brought 

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up Tantra. 
I love Tantra sex. 

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I want to get back into Tantra 
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like newlywed trying to have 
babies kind of thing. 

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I'm like, I kind of want to 
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the sensation of non penetrative
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line. 
I want that that tension. 

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So I really love that you 
brought that up. 

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Now, do you deal with black 
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with any of these problems? 
And if so, you know, let's talk 

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about it. 
Yeah, definitely. 

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Especially for black women 
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in the American Society, they've
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that, that that we are very 
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just love to have sex. 
They're hypersexual. 

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That's not the case. 
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society, even today and in mass 
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hypersexualized black women. 
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especially, I feel like black 
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research data, it shows that 
more risky behaviors, less 

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likely to speak up, less likely 
to engage with girls bodies 

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feeling that they're but also at
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need to meet a need of someone 
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That need is your own and you 
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it's an experience that you can 
choose to have. 

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You have no requirements to 
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when it comes to sex. 
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requirement to is yourself and 
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to remember. 
Like I will tell you if you can 

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do this 20 minute thing with a 
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engage and and finish off with 
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most orgasmic experience you've 
might of your entire life. 

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I will tell you that right now. 
But at the same time, an 

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experience with yourself is 
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And and there's nothing wrong 
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We don't need to think about 
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do I love to orgasm with my 
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Yes. 
That is the experience that you 

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know, when you talk about your 
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to masturbate, you know, I get 
all the sex I need. 

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Well, that has nothing to do 
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with a partner. 
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self-care and understanding your
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and then and then coming 
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feel a level of the comfort and 
trust. 

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We've all though have a one in 
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have anything new with when you 
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and maybe have a higher level 
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is what even things like there's
Ishta yoga. 

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You've got a thing Tantra, yes. 
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And so we're going into breath 
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exercises, we're going into the 
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Ishta Yoga incorporates Hoffa 
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relaxing, it's not like legs 
curling. 

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It's a hot groom and hot yoga 
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ourselves as far as we can. 
Ishta yoga is about a slow 

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engagement with your own body 
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practices at the same time. 
So you can do the things where 

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you're running the line by 
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And at the same time you're what
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the vagus nerve in your body 
that runs up and down to your 

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roots to your vagina. 
So you're, you're connected, 

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connecting from here to down. 
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engaging with your chakras, 
you're engaging with your vagus 

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nerve, you're engaging with your
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atomic nervous response system 
so that when you do get to that 

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orgasm, it's going to be 
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I'm, I'm about to add that to my
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it. 
We're going to do it. 

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Like boom, boom. 
My husband and I, he's like, we 

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got to start getting fit. 
If we're going to have babies, 

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we got to start getting fit. 
My thing is I need to get off 

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the damn couch now. 
I need to get some Ishta yoga in

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my, in my life. 
Like I'm about to YouTube that 

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and see who's got who's got the 
best tutorials on there. 

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So Alan Finger and Sarah Finger 
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versus 50 something years ago. 
Sarah Finger has videos on 

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YouTube 30-40 minutes do it at 
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You don't even have to go to a 
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She has online further online 
content that can be utilized. 

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So there there are in her base 
at New York, Florida. 

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So literally you can, you can, 
there are ish to classes within 

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and you're in the New York City 
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within the city. 
But if not, you can engage 

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online and have these 
experiences where you begin 

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engaging with your body and slow
movements that are, that are 

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strengthening your body from 
head to toe and at the same time

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learning to calm that vagus 
nerve and that atomic nervous 

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response. 
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here and the more in control you
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you are down there. 
I am so glad that you brought 

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that up because again, we talk 
about orgasms and the achieving,

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achieving that orgasm, but also,
you know, being attracted to who

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the body is and all these things
are mental and we never think 

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about how mental sex can be. 
I always like to be, I'm a 

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sapiosexual first and foremost. 
It's like got to penetrate my 

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mind first, then penetrate my 
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And it's very true. 
You got to put yourself in that 

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mental state sometimes to even 
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aura of yourself. 
So I'm so glad that you're 

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saying everything is connected 
because it is. 

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You know, earlier I was talking 
about my herpes. 

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It's like that stressor. 
Those things are on my mind. 

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It's connected to the spine 
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There we go. 
That's where that nerve center 

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is starting to be broken. 
Something's broken down there. 

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We're going to have a triggered 
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You said, you know, with 
vaginismus, the tightening of 

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those muscles, you know, the 
unable, you know, to even put 

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the smallest thing. 
That's that mental block right 

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there. 
That's that physical block, you 

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know, even when we talk about 
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didn't realize how much fibroids
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ovarian, ovarian cysts can be so
painful. 

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I've had ovarian cysts, but 
fibroids. 

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I know that something as a black
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intuitive because I know that we
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recipients for, you know, these 
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So with those how do we, I mean 
now we're getting more internal 

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in. 
So what are some signs of relief

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for like, how do we, how do we 
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How do we maintain? 
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more difficult when you get into
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endometriosis, angiomyosis. 
Majority of the time you can 

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have enjoyable sex and and even 
menopausal symptoms, which you 

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know, black women and women of 
color are going to it's actually

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shown in clinical research they 
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strength and earlier onset 
things like that. 

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And so understand half your body
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especially around our menstrual 
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We know that this is built 
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and around our menstrual cycle. 
There's probably a chance in 

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hell you're going to want to 
have sex or even think about sex

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or talk about sex. 
Are you, are you just like were 

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you in my my diary this week? 
Because I am having literally 

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the worst period right now. 
I am on like day three and I 

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want to kill myself. 
It has been so bad and yet I was

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like ridiculously horny, you 
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great sex afterwards. 
Now it's like I can't even I 

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don't even want to think about 
penetration because it hurts so 

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much. 
And now even that you said that 

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I'm noticing putting tampons as 
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I don't know what it is. 
Tampons are now hurting me a 

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little bit more and it's not 
like as easy to push in. 

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So I'm wondering do I, I do I 
have something maybe going on or

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is it just because with the 
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sometimes with flow, can that 
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Yes. 
So usually, you know, especially

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when you're experiencing A 
chronic pain state that is 

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heightened as the result of 
menstruation, you're, you're, 

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you know, you think about it 
when something feel doesn't feel

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good and you're just tight and 
that's happening to your pelvic 

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floor at the same time. 
And this is just kind of the 

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plan. 
One of those responses. 

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It's really hard when you're in 
that moment and you're not being

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should do a lot to even feel 
comfortable, to be able to 

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meditate, be able to feel 
comfortable. 

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We have to do a lot more 
research, be able to address 

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these conditions. 
We don't know crap. 

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And most of the time they're 
going to come in there and 

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they're going to be like, well, 
we can talk about the birth 

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control or we can talk about it 
just directly and, or have an 

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ablation and then two years 
later, you know, six months 

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later, have it all back. 
And we have very little tools in

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the toolbox for these conditions
that affect women because we 

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have not researched for over 100
years behind in women's 

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healthcare research. 
We have a lot of work for you. 

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And unfortunately we've lot, a 
lot lost a lot of our research 

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funding in in the past year or 
so that was working towards 

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options for these conditions. 
So we have a lot of work to do 

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and there there isn't really 
much when you're in that moment,

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you know, there were there were 
you know, there are people that 

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will sell you things and do 
things and there are all these 

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supplements that say that will 
do supplement manufacturer 

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myself. 
No, I'm glad that you said that 

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because anytime people are like,
well, I got the cure for herpes,

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you know, you got to take the 
what is it, the doctor Umar 

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pills? 
I'm like, no, no, no, you start 

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mumbling. 
Dr. Umar, I'm going to tell you 

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to fuck off right now because 
no, all right. 

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They're still exactly, exactly 
there are there are ingredients 

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that we know can can affect 
different parts of our body in 

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different ways. 
We know that if you take a 

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lysine, it could potentially 
calm the stress response that 

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causes herpes and help lessen 
the cycle of the herpes 

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outbreak. 
But it's not going to have a big

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major difference. 
Maybe taking a long term will 

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lessen your outbreak, but it's 
not going to do anything when 

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you're actively in an outbreak 
and feeling miserable. 

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And and it's no longer going to 
cure your herpes. 

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And you know, when we talk about
menopause symptoms, it's not 

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maka maka and yams. 
They lessen some of your your 

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nights a little bit something 
like that or hot flashes. 

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It's it's it's not going to have
an overwhelming fun and it's not

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going to make some big massive 
difference. 

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So just realize that we're just 
very limited and you're 

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miserable and you're looking for
options. 

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The armor not a lot sense 
related to this. 

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You can definitely when you are 
feeling good though, you should 

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be working on relaxing and it's 
great being out the floor 

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because when you do get to 
those, you know, episodes, the 

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word administration is really 
heavily affecting a thing. 

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You know you have made yourself 
stronger from when you get there

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and and know that all the times 
outside of that are the better 

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00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,280
times to engage with sexual 
intercourse and looking you 

448
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,880
don't mean nobody needs no man 
needs to go earn their Red Wings

449
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,280
and have anything to produce to 
anybody. 

450
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,800
OK, you you too was good for 
you. 

451
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,040
And and in those times, if you 
have endometriosis, angiomyosis,

452
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:10,160
uterine fibroids, PCOS, you've 
got cysts on your ovaries. 

453
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,280
Those are not good, good times 
to have sex and and they're very

454
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:21,360
limited options and also know 
that lubrication, let's talk 

455
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,640
lubricate. 
Let's let's talk about Lube. 

456
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,560
I I love to talk about Lube this
like Lube is literally one of my

457
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,960
favorite topics and I love it 
and I'm loving that you are 

458
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,520
already like, because that was 
going to be my next question 

459
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,200
because again, your products, 
that's what you got. 

460
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,480
So let's let's talk about lubing
it out. 

461
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,160
Yes, because here's the thing, 
ladies, if you're having sex 

462
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,320
with a partner, penetrative sex 
and you're not making less 

463
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,440
lubrication, there is nothing 
wrong with you. 

464
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,400
That is just the response in 
your body. 

465
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,560
It doesn't mean you're not 
having good sex with your 

466
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,800
partner. 
You don't love your partner, you

467
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,480
don't want to engage with your 
partner. 

468
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,640
It is just naturally how our 
bodies work and they and our 

469
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,200
bodies are only going to produce
so much lubrication and every 

470
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,440
woman is different. 
But you have no to little bad to

471
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,000
say, Hey, I might use glue. 
This might be coming. 

472
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,520
This might be coming too much. 
Hey, I'm not in it for America. 

473
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:25,000
You know, it's it's not about 
how long, it's about the quality

474
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,600
not wanting thank. 
You. 

475
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,760
Oh, my gosh, Sometimes some of 
the best sex is the quick ones. 

476
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,840
I mean, I used to say exactly. 
I used to say like, I couldn't 

477
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,600
master the art of quickies, But 
then when I started to realize I

478
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,000
could put, you know, some art 
into it. 

479
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,960
Yeah, yeah, mastering the art of
a quickie can be beautiful. 

480
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,280
What's not beautiful is not 
having Lube on deck and you know

481
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,280
you're spitting in my pussy, 
which is an absolute no no. 

482
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,240
Stop spitting in the vagina, in 
the butt. 

483
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,040
I just. 
Like your bacteria today? 

484
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,760
Yes, like please, we're already 
swapping so many germs as it is.

485
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,760
I don't want, you know, your 
leftover burger going into my 

486
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,640
vagina or into my booty. 
I don't want that. 

487
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,520
I don't want that. 
No, and let's let's talk about 

488
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,440
the two different locations 
because they also require 

489
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,360
different types of Lube. 
So very important. 

490
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,960
So not all lubes are made the 
same when it comes to a vaginal 

491
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,800
lubricant. 
I will tell you that there are 

492
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:33,160
only two in the world. 
Yes, mine is one of them that 

493
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:38,480
are actually meant to go into a 
vagina and that is because we 

494
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,920
focus so much on pH when we talk
about pH. 

495
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,240
Yes, the vagina is an acidic 
Biome. 

496
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,760
You need acidic products and 
your tissues are unhealthy. 

497
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:58,240
That acidic product might burn, 
but because you micro tears 

498
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,520
other things like that, it 
doesn't matter if your tissues 

499
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,680
are unhealthy, it's going to be 
uncomfortable no matter what you

500
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,640
put down. 
But understand that you need an 

501
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:17,880
igloo, but then second to that 
you need an ISO osmolar, so and.

502
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,120
I was going to say ISO, ISO 
molar, you said. 

503
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,200
ISO Osmolar. 
ISO osmolar, now this. 

504
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,640
Now this is not the same as 
water based I'm assuming. 

505
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,960
So water based just talks about 
the different types of lubes 

506
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,680
that are out there. 
So we have like a silicone based

507
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:43,800
which is pH neutral. 
It has no water, it has no 

508
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,480
osmolality. 
It is it is very inert. 

509
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:53,880
The only problem with it for the
vaginal bio is, is that it's 

510
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,240
chemicals and we're putting 
chemicals in our body and we 

511
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,400
don't know the long term extent 
of that. 

512
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,760
But on that, when we talk about 
water based lubes, which are a 

513
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,560
majority of the lubes that we 
have out there and that we 

514
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:13,000
really, you know, should be 
utilizing, But our vaginal wall 

515
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:19,840
epithelial cell layer Varvagina.
When you use a Lube that is 

516
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,160
hyper or high O osmolar, too 
high or too low on the 

517
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,880
osmolality scale, your cells 
begin to dry out your vaginal 

518
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,400
wall, your epithelial cells, and
they literally fall out. 

519
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,480
What? 
Yes. 

520
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,680
So you've just lost your barrier
protection. 

521
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,560
Get STI's bacteria, fungus, take
your pick. 

522
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,200
And and the only study that has 
been done in regards to 

523
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:52,360
osmolality was by the World 
Health Organization in 2016 for 

524
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,880
third country, third world 
country sex workers. 

525
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,560
They wanted to figure out how to
reach the instance of the best 

526
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:05,560
guys and how they could make 
them in safer because and they 

527
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,560
found that in they tested. 
I will name names, but let's 

528
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,159
just say they're the majority of
the ones you get in the stores, 

529
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:15,320
especially the big box stores. 
Oh. 

530
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,880
And it's probably one of the 
brands that I absolutely tell 

531
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,239
people, don't ever bring it to 
the bedroom. 

532
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,080
Don't bring it to my bedroom. 
Get rid of them now. 

533
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,440
Get rid of them now. 
Yes, and because every lubricant

534
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,880
in the United States is required
to be a medical device, and so 

535
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,600
as part of being a medical 
device, they have to learn their

536
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,480
osmolality. 
So just tell you 290 is the 

537
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,159
ideal vaginal osmolality for 
being the World Health 

538
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:52,679
Organization. 
You only want to be ±80 point on

539
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:57,240
that scale away from that. 
So how do you, how can you 

540
00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:59,840
measure that? 
Like if someone were to say 

541
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,440
like, I want to check that out 
on myself, how can we? 

542
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,960
How can we know? 
We have no test the test. 

543
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:13,760
So what we need is, is we need 
transparency from the lubricant 

544
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,040
company. 
You should be able to go up on 

545
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,080
there and look up their 
osmolality number back to that 

546
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,240
conversation about those ones 
that are in the big box scores 

547
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,280
when the World Health 
Organization did their study on 

548
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:34,160
lubricants 2010 thousand 9000. 
I mean, and then we've got ones 

549
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,280
way low at like 80 things like 
that that are hypolossible. 

550
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,960
So we're we're completely 
destroying our vaginal lion a 

551
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,080
lot of the times. 
So Libra Kent. 

552
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,520
So just to give you an idea, 
Desert harvest aloe glide with 

553
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:56,120
regard Libra Kent is three O 8. 
So that is that a deal Range is 

554
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,640
OK. 
There we go. 

555
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,480
And is it like, you know, some 
people like to say, well, aloe 

556
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,840
is a little bit too sticky for 
me. 

557
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,640
Is it a sticky base or is it, 
you know, relatively fair? 

558
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,840
It's relatively anything becomes
sticky at a point you can feel 

559
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,880
kind of that tackiness. 
But what it should do is like 

560
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,800
for instance, with the desert 
harvest aloe blight, it's going 

561
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,000
to go down through the layers of
tissue and help you make your 

562
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,240
own richer. 
It's going to soothe those 

563
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,360
tissues. 
Think about when you put aloe 

564
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,480
Vera on a sunburn. 
It's going to be 

565
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,920
anti-inflammatory analgesics. 
It's going to help moisturize 

566
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,840
those tissue foods. 
You have micro tears, you know 

567
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:42,760
help with, you know, skin 
regeneration and things micro 

568
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,760
tears and it is uncomfortable. 
You can get past that point by 

569
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,120
making your tissues healthy, but
understand that if your dryness 

570
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,880
and your unhealthy tissues are 
related to menopause, you can 

571
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,560
keep adding moisture. 
That's going to make a 

572
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,160
difference in the shorter term, 
but in the long term, the only 

573
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,960
thing that's going to make a 
difference is hormone 

574
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,400
replacement therapy. 
Interesting. 

575
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,240
Now if we're going into play, 
because with we, if we're going 

576
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:16,120
to talk about lubes, we got to 
talk about condoms and and 

577
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,840
mixing in the both of those. 
I've noticed over the years 

578
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,520
there's only one particular 
brand of condoms that I do not 

579
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,240
break out on and it doesn't 
cause a lot of friction and 

580
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:31,120
that's the skin condoms. 
I can't use the big branded 

581
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:36,480
condoms like Trojan Trojan, I 
break out on Durex, can't use 

582
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,160
those. 
Also doesn't match well with my 

583
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,160
pH but also causes breakouts 
believe it or not. 

584
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,920
And those are supposed to be the
non latex ones even. 

585
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,640
But you know, when we talk about
condoms and Lube, those are also

586
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,360
2 dangerous combinations that 
could be for our vagina. 

587
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,600
Do you agree on that? 
Because like you said, the 

588
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,600
friction of the burning and I've
noticed if you don't have the 

589
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,320
right Lube, you're going to 
break down that condom and the 

590
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,880
the concentrates on the condom 
itself. 

591
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,800
So then the condoms ineffective.
So have that at Miss Florio. 

592
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:13,520
And so that's where 
realistically, yes, there are a 

593
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,320
lot of materials, the substrates
that we're using, we're using 

594
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,120
petroleum based, you know, 
condoms and things like that. 

595
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,400
I'll tell you right now, no, no 
research has been done on that 

596
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,720
and then on the toxicology or 
the effects that that has on a 

597
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:31,200
woman's microbiome, vaginal 
microbiome. 

598
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:37,920
But The thing is, is that there 
are products unique that give us

599
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,760
a different sense of 
empowerment. 

600
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,040
Whether you know, we're we're 
good to look at Eva would have 

601
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,280
we're going to look at there are
actually female condoms. 

602
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,920
Yes. 
That that you can utilize. 

603
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:56,440
You can put in before you even 
get to that and and find out 

604
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,760
what works for you. 
Personally for me with the 

605
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,760
female condoms, I always say I 
feel like I'm fucking a trash 

606
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:09,760
bag just because just the way 
that they sound like, if any, 

607
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,280
like, I don't know, somebody's 
got to agree with me because I'm

608
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,880
like, I, I'm. 
So I remember the first few 

609
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,880
times I tried it and then I 
tried it with a female, I was 

610
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,880
like, OK, now I'm curious. 
Let me see how lesbian sex with 

611
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,840
a female condom will work. 
And I just kept hearing this 

612
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,560
noise. 
I'm like, is there a trash bag 

613
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,040
or is there is there some 
plastic around? 

614
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:35,240
She's like, no, it's me. 
I said oh God, like never again.

615
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,360
Never to be put out of a scene 
again. 

616
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,280
No more female condoms for 
Sapphire? 

617
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,600
Like no. 
And it's it's, it's really hard 

618
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,720
because we haven't found a 
substrate yet that can act as a 

619
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:51,440
barrier of protection and still 
be made of natural material. 

620
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,640
Maybe that's something I'll and 
got. 

621
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,160
Fingers crossed. 
I'm going to keep you. 

622
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,640
I'm going to keep tabs on you 
for that. 

623
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,360
Perfect, perfect. 
But there are there are options 

624
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,880
but then when we get to let's 
say the anal microbiome, yes, 

625
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:12,640
you should never use anesthetic,
vaginal lubricant in your anal 

626
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:17,200
Biome. 
So when I talk about osmolality,

627
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,000
it's a part of the issue, but 
actually. 

628
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,240
The anal Biome is more sensitive
to TH if you put an acidic 

629
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:32,120
lubricant in your alkaline in 
your epithelial cell layer, 

630
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,800
tedious falls out. 
It does seem like to dry out. 

631
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,320
It's just right out. 
And so if you're having anal sex

632
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,800
again, you could have 
instantaneously. 

633
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,880
I know it's it's kind of it's 
being like, oh, don't we're 

634
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,440
going to anal sex, but that is 
weird. 

635
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,600
It's like silicone. 
Will you make sense because 

636
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,000
those are going to be your 
alkaline glutes. 

637
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:02,600
That's the only Lube that can 
meet the outline of the need of 

638
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,720
the you know, my bio. 
There you go guys. 

639
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:11,000
So now you know, and I'm glad 
that you that we talked about 

640
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,360
both because again, some people 
think that the same Lube for the

641
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,000
vagina is the same Lube for the 
buttocks. 

642
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,280
And it's like no, no, no, no, 
no, no, no, no, no. 

643
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,040
And especially for all my gay 
boys out there, it's like, you 

644
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,240
know, there is the anal Lube and
you got to get the good anal 

645
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:30,480
Lube. 
I I like to What is it? 

646
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,640
I think it's called analyze. 
I think the Lube is called anal.

647
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:39,440
There's that one and gun oil. 
There's so many. 

648
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,880
I use fuck water As for vaginal,
which is great. 

649
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:48,480
But yeah, yeah, it's like the 
everything is a science, you 

650
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,640
guys. 
And I love that we have Heather 

651
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,000
on here because again, it's all 
to a science, sex, mental. 

652
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,120
You got the sex on the 
scientific side of sex, the 

653
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,600
acidity of our our vaginas, of 
our anuses. 

654
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,880
I never even thought about that.
You know, I always thought 

655
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,640
about, you know, the protective 
Jelly that we already have, you 

656
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,240
know, already that we produce. 
But then when you think about 

657
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:15,200
it, yeah, you got to have more 
lubrication. 

658
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,360
Have to be careful with that 
lubrication too. 

659
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,600
So I'm so glad. 
Yeah, the yeah, the even natural

660
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,360
isn't necessarily, but your 
olive oils, your coconut oils. 

661
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,440
Get them out. 
Get rid of them. 

662
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,280
Destroy your vaginal microbiome.
We think they're safe, but 

663
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,000
they're going to have pH issues.
They're going to affect the 

664
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,920
vaginal microbiome. 
We can. 

665
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,760
Natural isn't necessarily the 
best thing. 

666
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,400
It is very important for you to 
think about what goes into your 

667
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,320
vagina and nothing should that 
is not acidic and ISO or 

668
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,000
smaller, no matter what it is. 
Now I got to ask you about this 

669
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,480
latest fad and I I feel like 
it's not a latest fad, but I 

670
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,440
feel like it's just becoming up 
and more people keep asking me 

671
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:11,000
the vaginal dabbing, vaginal 
dabbing. 

672
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:22,680
What are our thoughts on that? 
So I think that yeah, I'm like. 

673
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:31,320
Yeah, I because it's like, Oh 
yeah, no, please. 

674
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,080
There is nothing wrong with it. 
It's it's going into the ideas 

675
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:42,200
of pheromones and in attracting 
pheromones and, and putting that

676
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:43,880
on. 
I mean, it doesn't hurt 

677
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,480
anything. 
It's just, yeah, it's not my 

678
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,640
thing and it might be somewhat 
on the thing, but I mean, are 

679
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:58,680
are we like going so like animal
mating and the right season of 

680
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,760
and also right? 
I'm I'm just over here and like 

681
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,160
more, more and more even just 
like the sex positive folks that

682
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,320
I am in community with and 
online. 

683
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,960
It's just like everybody's now 
talking about vabbing, vaginal 

684
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,880
dabbing. 
And I'm like, I don't know, 

685
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,280
there's something about sticking
my fingers up in my Hua and 

686
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,840
either licking it for myself for
my own pleasure. 

687
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,320
But then if you're telling me to
walk around with the whiff of my

688
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:34,000
pussy on my neck to see if 
somebody is going to come closer

689
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:39,440
to be like that smells good. 
I think anybody else besides my 

690
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,840
husband and maybe my girlfriend,
they'll be fine with it. 

691
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,040
Everybody else is probably going
to be like, girl, what is that 

692
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:52,360
smell? 
Well, and he already secrete the

693
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,080
hormones, the pheromones 
naturally. 

694
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,920
So you, you, you know, when it, 
when, when man seems so 

695
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:06,080
animalistic and we're like, 
girl, you know, you're already 

696
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,960
putting off those hormones. 
You're already saying, I'm open 

697
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:15,160
for business. 
And when you know your hormones 

698
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,520
are activated and you're, you 
know, you talked about I'm so 

699
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:23,480
horny and, and, and engaging, 
that's you, your hormones are 

700
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,160
secreting at that point 
naturally. 

701
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,440
Why do? 
Why do you need to dab it on so?

702
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,080
I'm like unless if it's going to
just like bring out even the the

703
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,440
Chanel #5 I have on. 
I just, I don't know if that's 

704
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,480
for me. 
I just don't know. 

705
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,120
Like. 
I just there. 

706
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,360
Are plenty. 
There are plenty of you know 

707
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,760
this. 
This is in research for for 

708
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,920
eons. 
You know, we can go back to 

709
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,840
Egyptian times and utilizing 
different scents as pheromone 

710
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,560
attractors. 
We don't necessarily have to do 

711
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,600
it with our own vaginal fluids. 
There are better, you know, 

712
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,880
filling options out there that 
can naturally act as as 

713
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,640
pheromone attractors that are 
naturally in both perfumes, 

714
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,040
colognes, things like that. 
Exactly. 

715
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,680
Without having to dab your own 
vaginal fluids under bowel. 

716
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,880
I have to mention I'm like, 
unless you're going to try to, 

717
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:22,680
you know, bottle it in a perfume
or you know, like Erykah Badu 

718
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,080
did it with her own. 
She had a Badu pussy, which was 

719
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,920
the incense. 
And then when a Paltrow followed

720
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,200
off with her own goop, you know,
candle. 

721
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,320
And I'm like, listen to each 
their own. 

722
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,360
I just know my pussy is my pussy
smell is for me and my partners.

723
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:46,800
It is not for everybody. 
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 

724
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,120
And, and sometimes those scents 
can be aggravated by other 

725
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,760
conditions and they may not need
necessarily the bad scents. 

726
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,160
If a woman has a, you know, 
bacterial infection, that's not 

727
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,080
going to be a tractor. 
It's going to be a detract. 

728
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:04,200
Exactly. 
So yeah, let you know what? 

729
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,280
There we go, people. 
The verdict is vabbing is not 

730
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:14,200
for us, just just. 
There are other ways. 

731
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,200
And we'll go on that same front 
steaming when we talk about 

732
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,600
vaginal steam. 
Thank. 

733
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,680
You. 
Thank you, I will never forget I

734
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,040
did it for radio. 
Eggs stay away. 

735
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,200
Stay, Oh my gosh. 
Stay away from the eggs. 

736
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,400
Stay away from what is it? 
Yeah, the Yoni steamer. 

737
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,480
I I did it and I just said my 
vagina smells like ramen. 

738
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,200
I said it just smells like 
ramen. 

739
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,640
Coochie in the room. 
I did it as a radio bit for like

740
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,600
2 hours with three of my two 
other hosts and we're just 

741
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,040
sitting here Like I don't feel a
difference other than it's very 

742
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,480
hot, I'm very sweaty, and I want
ramen because it smells like 

743
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,880
vagina ramen in here. 
Ramen. 

744
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:03,200
Out of all things. 
Some and and you know they it 

745
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,400
kills. 
They talk about it killing bad 

746
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,080
bacteria, but it's also killing 
your good bacteria vagina self 

747
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,480
cleaning. 
It doesn't need anything to 

748
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,160
clean it. 
It doesn't need steaming. 

749
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,440
It doesn't need douching, it 
doesn't need washes. 

750
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,560
It's naturally self clean. 
OK, now that you said about the 

751
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,000
not needing the washing, I 
sometimes and I had to stop 

752
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,760
because I feel like it was maybe
causing a possible outbreak. 

753
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:34,640
But using like the vaginal 
washes in particular honeypot, 

754
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,400
they have like a, a vulva wash, 
if you will. 

755
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,080
What are you? 
What are your takes on the vulva

756
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,280
washes now? 
So I, we have one too. 

757
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:49,720
It's called aloe rebalance and 
it's not necessarily anything. 

758
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:54,160
It's only for the vulva. 
So it's almost like washing your

759
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,440
hair, except for washing your 
hair down there. 

760
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:05,520
And, and as long as, again, it's
acidic because it is going near 

761
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,120
your pragmal opening, it is 
going to be near your, you know,

762
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,000
you're, you're using Dove. 
There are some other products 

763
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,880
that off the shelves. 
Those are all awkward. 

764
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:23,360
And so those are all going to 
slowly help degrade your vaginal

765
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,080
microbiome just because it's an 
open hole, ladies. 

766
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,840
And, and even if you just, since
you're washing your vulva, 

767
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,360
you're washing a little bit 
more. 

768
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:37,080
So where is no reason, you know,
it's, it's almost more about 

769
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,240
cleaning the hair and having 
that fence. 

770
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,440
We've been programmed as a 
society, You know, when we, when

771
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,120
we wash our hair, we think that 
it needs to suds and it needs to

772
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,240
do all this stuff. 
This is all a chemical reaction 

773
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:53,800
and then it's been created. 
So in the same sense, we feel 

774
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,960
like we need to wash with 
something down there besides 

775
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,360
toothwater. 
But and, and like honey pot, 

776
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,960
like our aloe rebalance, those 
kind of things. 

777
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:08,520
Those are acidic and and so they
There's nothing wrong with 

778
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,720
washing off your vulva, you just
don't need to go inside. 

779
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,800
I'm glad that she's thank you 
for noting that because I feel 

780
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,520
like sometimes a lot of ice as 
women, we get embarrassed. 

781
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,520
Like, how do we wash down there?
You know, it's the Siri 

782
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,200
question. 
There's so many products out 

783
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,680
there. 
You know, people are suggesting 

784
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:32,600
vaginal washes and suppositories
and creams, and there's just so 

785
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,760
much out there. 
And yet, like you said earlier, 

786
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,400
there's not enough research. 
And I wonder why a certain 

787
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,160
administration wanted to get rid
of all this funding. 

788
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,320
If we only just learned. 
If we only were. 

789
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,680
Just able. 
To learn. 

790
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,440
So I'm so glad that you and your
products are definitely changing

791
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,120
the game out there. 
And Speaking of, where can 

792
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:03,200
people find your products? 
So on our website, 

793
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:08,160
isdesertharvest.com, they're 
always welcome to even call us 

794
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:14,120
to 800-322-3901. 
We are happy to talk about our 

795
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,240
products, explain that they do 
what they don't do. 

796
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,760
We're not going to. 
We're just not going to feed you

797
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,680
something to sell you something.
We're going to tell you what 

798
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,680
works, what doesn't work, why 
you need this, why we don't. 

799
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,120
I can't wait to check out 
myself. 

800
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,560
I'm going to definitely drop the
phone number and the link for 

801
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:36,640
this episode so you guys can all
get a taste of that desert, that

802
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,240
desert. 
I don't want to say that desert 

803
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:41,240
dryness, but you know, I want 
to, I want people to taste that 

804
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:45,400
desert harvest. 
And so, Heather, where can 

805
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,160
people get in touch with you as 
well? 

806
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,120
So they can definitely check me 
out on Instagram. 

807
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,440
HM Florio. 
I'm always happy to answer 

808
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,440
questions as well. 
I actually teach women all over 

809
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,400
the world. 
So I've I've taught the first 

810
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,360
public and sexual health course 
for women in Turkey. 

811
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:10,240
I've done Peru, although I got 
arrested now like so I. 

812
00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:12,520
Hope for good things. 
I hope for the goodness of good 

813
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,680
things. 
Yeah, it was because I was 

814
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,560
teaching women. 
I'm sure we'll be here in the US

815
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,600
that way soon. 
I don't know, let's hope not 

816
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,400
because listen, we need some 
pioneers like yourself out 

817
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,360
there. 
And really, I am just so honored

818
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,240
to have you. 
And I definitely want to bring 

819
00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:32,120
you back in the future because I
feel like there's so much that 

820
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,680
we could talk about with our 
women's bodies and our health. 

821
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,360
And just to even just talk about
just on the surface, the 

822
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,120
painfulness of sex and that it 
doesn't have to be painful. 

823
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,360
I'm so glad that you took time 
and to educate us a little bit 

824
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,320
more about our bodies. 
Aw, thank you for having me. 

825
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,320
This is this is what I love to 
do. 

826
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,520
And of course, yeah, like you 
said, I have so much more I'd 

827
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,480
love to download, so maybe in 
the future. 

828
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,880
Absolutely. 
You're already a certified 

829
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,000
earbuds. 
So that's it. 

830
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,520
We're we're going to keep in 
touch. 

831
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,840
I definitely want to bring you 
in for more future episodes. 

832
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,680
With that said, everybody 
remember that safe sex is the 

833
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,640
best hot sex. 
You can reach me at Miss Radio 

834
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:17,160
Sapphire, that's MSRADIOSAPPHIRE
on Instagram and of course Miss 

835
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,480
Radio sapphire.com. 
Until the next time, good. 

836
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,880
Night. 
That was the show all you sexy 

837
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,480
motherfuckers out there, 
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838
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,200
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839
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,160
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840
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,800
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