1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,560 Warning the following program is not for the weak hearted. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,840 Those who are close minded in general, you're scared to learn 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,920 what's behind closed doors. Here at Sapphire's Earplay, I 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,080 want you to pour the wine, grab somebody that you want to hold 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,920 on to, or better yet, get the vibration stimulated through 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,960 your body. Get ready for one hell of an 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:27,560 orgasm in 54321. What is up all you sexy 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,000 motherfuckers out there in Radioland? 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,560 It's your girl sapphire. Back at it. 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,840 And let me just tell you before I introduce this guest again, 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,880 Y'all really. Just I'm glad that I'm getting 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:45,120 in all my gay shit now in July, because as I said in the episode 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,680 with Boom Shanary, I didn't need Pride month to just solidify 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,000 that this is a queer black podcast. 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:58,040 Y'all get that 24/7 365. But the fact that I just 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,840 ironically booked 2 queer people back-to-back for y'all, it's 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,400 just you got to love the the month of July. 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,400 July could be the next Pride month. 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,080 I'm just saying, I feel like there is so much more events 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,720 going on this month than last month. 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,760 Hopefully there's no more fuckery with that. 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,040 With that said, I am excited to bring my guests on. 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,240 First of all, I've made an appearance on their show 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,360 Alphabet Radio. Go check it out. 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:31,560 And you can find them on TikTok at Cafe 3G or Cafe under score 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,920 3G on Instagram. I'm talking about the one and 27 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:42,070 only Greg Oronica. Beautiful intro. 28 00:01:42,070 --> 00:01:44,150 Thank you so much. Oh, I feel so welcome. 29 00:01:44,190 --> 00:01:45,630 Oh, but it doesn't just stop there. 30 00:01:45,630 --> 00:01:48,670 You're welcome, babe. But seriously, Greg, you've been 31 00:01:48,670 --> 00:01:52,670 in the radio scene in the Bay Area since 2005, and you've 32 00:01:52,670 --> 00:01:55,950 worked as an educator on air personality, voice actor, 33 00:01:56,830 --> 00:01:59,310 production director for broadcasting, advertising 34 00:01:59,310 --> 00:02:00,750 country. You've just done it all, which 35 00:02:00,750 --> 00:02:03,870 is great. But more importantly, you just 36 00:02:03,870 --> 00:02:08,430 recently came out as bisexual during, I guess, you know, 37 00:02:08,430 --> 00:02:11,560 during the the Time of Chaos. 2020. 38 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,000 During the Global Pepperoni, while we were going through all 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,640 of that, I did some soul searching and I realized that 40 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:21,640 was bisexual. It was. 41 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:23,240 It was a long time coming, honestly. 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:29,360 So I have had crushes on men, I've had crushes on women, I've 43 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,040 had crushes on people that I now know are non binary, pretty much 44 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,990 my entire life and when. I was a little kid. 45 00:02:38,070 --> 00:02:41,550 I was just like, Oh well, you know, I had so much internalized 46 00:02:41,550 --> 00:02:46,030 homophobia as we all do. And I didn't recognize that side 47 00:02:46,030 --> 00:02:49,070 of me, and I didn't want to recognize that side of me. 48 00:02:49,590 --> 00:02:53,710 And even when I was crushing on some of the boys that were 49 00:02:53,710 --> 00:02:57,790 picking on me through school, calling me the F slur and all of 50 00:02:57,790 --> 00:03:02,430 that lovely stuff, I internalized a lot of that pain 51 00:03:02,430 --> 00:03:06,390 and I internalized a lot of that ingrained homophobia and. 52 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,520 It took me a long time to unpack it. 53 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,120 It took me actually, like not only having a boyfriend, OK, it 54 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,520 was like 3 weeks, but I had a boyfriend after my marriage fell 55 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,320 apart. And then yeah, and then I you 56 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,160 know, I moved back to California after a couple of years in 57 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,960 Michigan, and for terrible reasons. 58 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:35,260 And then I I met someone who. Has been so supportive of me in 59 00:03:35,260 --> 00:03:40,540 so, so many ways, and she's my current partner and I remember 60 00:03:40,540 --> 00:03:43,740 that I was this is going to be the most nerdy thing you're 61 00:03:43,740 --> 00:03:45,420 going to hear. So I was playing a video game. 62 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:49,070 And I was playing the game Dragon Age Inquisition. 63 00:03:49,550 --> 00:03:52,150 And I realized while I was playing it that the character 64 00:03:52,150 --> 00:03:54,470 that I was really crushing on and the character that I really 65 00:03:54,470 --> 00:03:56,270 wanted to romance. And if you don't know anything 66 00:03:56,270 --> 00:03:58,390 about Dragon Age, they are fantasy games. 67 00:03:58,750 --> 00:04:03,630 Romance is an integral part of the plots and like an integral 68 00:04:03,630 --> 00:04:06,190 part of the player experience is you get to meet a bunch of 69 00:04:06,190 --> 00:04:08,270 different types of characters, you can romance a bunch of 70 00:04:08,270 --> 00:04:11,150 different types of characters. And what's great about Dragon 71 00:04:11,150 --> 00:04:15,190 Age is they were some of the most pivotal games in the 72 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:18,470 triple-A gaming space. With queer representation. 73 00:04:19,510 --> 00:04:23,430 And I've been fans of this series for a long time without 74 00:04:23,950 --> 00:04:25,910 without interrogating this within me. 75 00:04:26,390 --> 00:04:30,110 And it wasn't until I met the character Dorian Pavas in Dragon 76 00:04:30,110 --> 00:04:34,310 Age Inquisition that I was like, I legitimately am feeling 77 00:04:34,310 --> 00:04:38,270 feelings for this character. I think I'm. 78 00:04:38,390 --> 00:04:41,350 I'm almost positive I'm not. And then I was like, no, I'm 79 00:04:41,350 --> 00:04:43,760 definitely not straight. What am I? 80 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,480 And so I started doing the Google searching because you 81 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,440 know, this is what you do when you when you when you're not 82 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,280 sure. And in the the the new, the the, 83 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,520 the modern age that we live in, the first thing that you do is 84 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,000 you go online and you're like, OK, what? 85 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,160 What if I like boys? What if I like girls? 86 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,520 To the Googles. To the Googles, What if I like 87 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:03,720 people who are? Neither. 88 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,920 And then you're like, oh, look at this, this definition Here it 89 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,080 says. Attraction to one's gender and 90 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,760 attraction to other genders, hey, that kind of fits me to a 91 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,960 tee. And so I I went to my partner 92 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:24,320 and I said, I think, I think I'm bisexual and she was like, hell 93 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,360 yeah, you are. It's funny how that works, 94 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:29,880 right? It's funny how that works in the 95 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:35,520 relationships because I feel like one personally, thank you 96 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,160 for some foremost for being my guest this week. 97 00:05:39,470 --> 00:05:43,710 On such a hard hitting topic, because I have talked about this 98 00:05:43,710 --> 00:05:48,110 before, I did do an episode a couple years ago that I called 99 00:05:49,870 --> 00:05:53,310 This Guy is Gay. Or He This guy likes nipple 100 00:05:53,310 --> 00:05:54,750 play. So we must be gay. 101 00:05:54,750 --> 00:05:59,390 And I was so, so convinced. I was like, there's no way that 102 00:05:59,390 --> 00:06:02,990 this man who claims to be bisexual is bisexual. 103 00:06:02,990 --> 00:06:05,710 This man is gay and just in the closet and. 104 00:06:06,190 --> 00:06:08,870 You know, so my ignorance, he was really, you know, bisexual, 105 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:12,510 but he was definitely more on the leaning spectrum of being 106 00:06:12,510 --> 00:06:15,910 gay. And I feel like you know with 107 00:06:15,910 --> 00:06:18,430 the right partner, with the right understanding, with proper 108 00:06:18,430 --> 00:06:21,230 patience and understanding and not just making it a fuck buddy 109 00:06:21,230 --> 00:06:23,590 situation. Yeah, I would have understood 110 00:06:23,590 --> 00:06:27,710 that I had an ally in a in a fuck buddy, you know. 111 00:06:28,030 --> 00:06:31,710 But we all have gone through our our own self discovery with 112 00:06:31,710 --> 00:06:33,910 bisexuality. We've gone through our own 113 00:06:33,910 --> 00:06:38,950 biasness of. What does bisexuality umbrella, 114 00:06:39,950 --> 00:06:42,550 you know, what is under that whole spectrum? 115 00:06:43,190 --> 00:06:47,710 So I'm glad that you are able to live in your own truth now and 116 00:06:47,710 --> 00:06:51,870 we're able to kind of connect the dots through ironically 117 00:06:51,910 --> 00:06:54,750 video games because it is crazy how that works. 118 00:06:55,610 --> 00:06:58,130 It's it's like once you see yourself represented. 119 00:06:58,130 --> 00:07:01,970 And to be clear, Dorian Pavis in the game is a gay man and was 120 00:07:01,970 --> 00:07:05,570 written by a gay man, and his entire story is about coming to 121 00:07:05,570 --> 00:07:09,970 terms with his own sexuality in the face of friction from his 122 00:07:09,970 --> 00:07:13,290 family. I'm extremely privileged in that 123 00:07:13,290 --> 00:07:16,870 my family accepted me. Like immediately they were like, 124 00:07:16,910 --> 00:07:18,750 Oh yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's cool. 125 00:07:18,910 --> 00:07:21,310 My mom was like, I think the one thing that she told me was I I 126 00:07:21,310 --> 00:07:23,950 really wish you would have told me before you posted online. 127 00:07:23,950 --> 00:07:27,190 But aside from that, like, yeah, you're my son. 128 00:07:27,190 --> 00:07:28,790 I love you, you know, And it was, it was great. 129 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:32,550 I love that it was, it was bisexual awareness today. 130 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:36,110 And I posted about it and I remember thinking at the time 131 00:07:36,110 --> 00:07:38,270 like, I just want to get this out there. 132 00:07:38,550 --> 00:07:40,270 I just want to get it done. I want to get it done. 133 00:07:40,270 --> 00:07:43,230 And at the time I was thinking coming out as a one time thing. 134 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,160 So I got, I posted about it and that was it. 135 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,360 And I said that's it. Wiping my hands of it and 136 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,920 stepping away. And then people started reaching 137 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,440 out to me, people that I've known for many, many years 138 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:01,200 saying hey, thank you, thank you for this, you're coming out is 139 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,000 helping me understand my own self and my own sexuality and my 140 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,320 own identity. People that are still in the 141 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,480 closet. And I remember thinking at the 142 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,040 time like. Holy shit, this is what 143 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,880 representation does. Absolutely. 144 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,960 And yet there's still a Biracer, if you will, in this community. 145 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,600 It's like Pride Month has already came and gone, and 146 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,840 already I'm already seeing the wiping away of gay social media 147 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,200 content, you know, from certain people. 148 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,840 And it's like, thanks for showing your ally ship for one 149 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:39,520 month, but there's still six, you know, there's still five 150 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,020 months left of the year. Magically, rainbows just start. 151 00:08:43,100 --> 00:08:45,540 Right. I'm still right. 152 00:08:45,540 --> 00:08:48,220 It's like, OK, I shout out all the rainbows in June. 153 00:08:48,540 --> 00:08:50,420 Boom. We're back to straightness. 154 00:08:50,420 --> 00:08:54,860 We're back to our regular programming of not celebrating, 155 00:08:54,940 --> 00:08:57,220 you know, history. And yet, like I said, there are 156 00:08:57,220 --> 00:08:58,940 Pride events that are still going on. 157 00:08:59,100 --> 00:09:02,780 Right now. I'm missing, sadly, Black Pride. 158 00:09:02,900 --> 00:09:06,580 This weekend in Los Angeles, it's the second annual Black 159 00:09:06,580 --> 00:09:10,740 Pride and you know. The reasons of the grind, But 160 00:09:10,740 --> 00:09:13,580 again, as I've said, I believe I said it on your platform. 161 00:09:13,900 --> 00:09:17,140 You know, we don't have to have Pride month as an excuse to 162 00:09:17,140 --> 00:09:20,540 celebrate being part of the LGBQ. 163 00:09:20,660 --> 00:09:24,740 You know, I a community forgot my teas, but y'all know what I 164 00:09:24,740 --> 00:09:26,700 mean. Like we don't have to celebrate 165 00:09:27,260 --> 00:09:30,660 being a part of the Alphabet community for one month. 166 00:09:31,420 --> 00:09:33,980 Exactly. It's it's like our identities 167 00:09:33,980 --> 00:09:36,980 don't disappear magically on that. 168 00:09:36,980 --> 00:09:38,620 You know, we're not, we're not dormant. 169 00:09:38,620 --> 00:09:40,860 We we're not like you know, we're not bears. 170 00:09:40,860 --> 00:09:44,620 Well, some of us are bears, but but like we're not, we don't go 171 00:09:44,620 --> 00:09:47,740 into hibernation, you know, for 11 months out of the year and 172 00:09:47,740 --> 00:09:50,780 then magically blossom in July or in June. 173 00:09:51,580 --> 00:09:54,900 I mean you know some of us are, are a lot more open in June 174 00:09:54,940 --> 00:09:59,060 obviously as you know that's that's fine, but a lot of. 175 00:09:59,710 --> 00:10:02,350 Our queerness or all of our queerness doesn't go away 176 00:10:02,350 --> 00:10:03,830 magically. We're still here. 177 00:10:03,830 --> 00:10:06,310 We're still queer. Get fucking used to it. 178 00:10:06,670 --> 00:10:10,910 That we're like, I don't know how to make that anymore clear. 179 00:10:10,910 --> 00:10:15,390 And companies I don't. Maybe I'm alone. 180 00:10:15,830 --> 00:10:17,830 I don't think I'm alone in this that I think. 181 00:10:18,390 --> 00:10:23,230 Seeing rainbows in rainbow capitalism, it doesn't bother me 182 00:10:23,310 --> 00:10:28,830 too much because the way I see it is the more representation 183 00:10:28,830 --> 00:10:32,790 and the more public acceptance we see, the more likely it is 184 00:10:32,790 --> 00:10:36,350 that other people are going to feel comfortable coming out and 185 00:10:36,350 --> 00:10:38,670 comfortable being their true authentic selves. 186 00:10:39,550 --> 00:10:44,190 It sucks ass when you see all of a sudden July 1st, you know they 187 00:10:44,270 --> 00:10:46,750 they wipe away all the rainbows and that all goes away. 188 00:10:47,830 --> 00:10:50,710 But it's a common thing and I get it. 189 00:10:50,910 --> 00:10:54,830 What I don't like is companies that will support us and then 190 00:10:54,910 --> 00:11:00,030 magically the second they get any kind of push back target, 191 00:11:00,910 --> 00:11:04,190 they just wipe away all of the the queerness and say look we 192 00:11:04,190 --> 00:11:08,750 don't want to offend any bigots so we we we just gonna to put it 193 00:11:08,750 --> 00:11:12,890 away but like like it's. It's frustrating to see that, 194 00:11:13,130 --> 00:11:16,370 and I know that our relationship with corporations is extremely 195 00:11:16,370 --> 00:11:21,850 tenuous as it is so, but the representation is the most 196 00:11:21,850 --> 00:11:25,090 important part of that. Seeing, you know, walking into a 197 00:11:25,090 --> 00:11:29,610 store, a big box store, Target, Walmart, whatever, and seeing a 198 00:11:29,610 --> 00:11:35,930 shirt that has a bisexual flag on it is a powerful fucking 199 00:11:35,930 --> 00:11:37,410 thing. It's a powerful thing and it's a 200 00:11:37,410 --> 00:11:40,330 powerful message to the L, GB, TQ Plus community that like, 201 00:11:40,330 --> 00:11:42,980 hey. Yeah, we're a big company that 202 00:11:42,980 --> 00:11:45,020 screws our employees on a daily basis. 203 00:11:45,580 --> 00:11:49,660 Yeah, we're it's capitalism. Deal with it. 204 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:55,900 But you're at least represented here and you can get what you 205 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:59,900 need here, and our employees aren't going to look down at you 206 00:11:59,940 --> 00:12:02,380 for that when. Years ago, that wasn't the. 207 00:12:02,380 --> 00:12:05,660 Case exactly. And and and buy your things in a 208 00:12:05,740 --> 00:12:08,700 in secret because you weren't allowed to. 209 00:12:09,460 --> 00:12:12,500 I think my biggest pet peeve though, you know when you think 210 00:12:12,500 --> 00:12:17,660 about it, is that a lot of the times and still to this day, 211 00:12:18,860 --> 00:12:24,460 bisexuality is not 100% accepted even in the community. 212 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:27,820 Exactly that too, yes. I was literally, we were 213 00:12:27,820 --> 00:12:31,780 literally talking about this in the previous episode with my 214 00:12:31,780 --> 00:12:33,900 girl Jay Marie, part of Bubshenary. 215 00:12:33,940 --> 00:12:37,620 And you know, we were talking about lesbianism and and Suffolk 216 00:12:37,620 --> 00:12:41,620 love and talking about how, you know, just because you see a 217 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:45,740 self procuring lesbian out on the street with the man you 218 00:12:45,740 --> 00:12:49,620 know, in a monogamous or polyamorous or whatever you kind 219 00:12:49,620 --> 00:12:53,900 of relationship doesn't mean you disregard her lesbianism, you 220 00:12:53,900 --> 00:12:55,830 know? People do this all the time to 221 00:12:55,830 --> 00:12:58,190 me because they're like, for someone who claims to be 222 00:12:58,190 --> 00:13:02,350 bisexual, why is it always you and the Sir and once in a while, 223 00:13:02,350 --> 00:13:05,350 you and your girlfriend? First of all, as I said in the 224 00:13:05,350 --> 00:13:07,710 last one, I'm not embarrassed by my girlfriend. 225 00:13:08,070 --> 00:13:14,310 My girlfriend is a boss bitch. She's working OK and she's 226 00:13:14,310 --> 00:13:15,950 listening to this episode right now. 227 00:13:15,950 --> 00:13:18,510 I guarantee you she is snapping her fingers. 228 00:13:19,030 --> 00:13:22,350 My girl works in pharma. She is a fucking scientist. 229 00:13:22,430 --> 00:13:26,830 She is doing boss lady things. So when I get to see her honey, 230 00:13:26,830 --> 00:13:29,670 I'm not going to post it all on the gram. 231 00:13:29,950 --> 00:13:34,670 I'm going to take the time that I have with my lady and I don't 232 00:13:34,670 --> 00:13:36,830 have to share her with the world. 233 00:13:37,030 --> 00:13:42,030 I don't need to open up the floodgates to your fuck boy or 234 00:13:42,030 --> 00:13:46,790 fuck antic behaviors because you want to get in with us. 235 00:13:47,310 --> 00:13:50,540 It don't work that way. So maybe I'm protecting my 236 00:13:50,540 --> 00:13:55,300 partners and knowing that yes, they can hold their own, but 237 00:13:55,300 --> 00:13:58,740 also, it's just not. I don't need to explain my 238 00:13:58,740 --> 00:14:01,180 sexuality. I don't need to explain who's in 239 00:14:01,180 --> 00:14:04,180 my bed. And because I do flip flop and 240 00:14:04,180 --> 00:14:08,180 say I'm queer one day, I'm bisexual, I'm One thing I will 241 00:14:08,180 --> 00:14:10,580 not say is that I'm straight, because I'm certainly not. 242 00:14:10,950 --> 00:14:13,030 I barely walk straight in life, OK? 243 00:14:14,110 --> 00:14:15,510 Look, we don't even sit straight. 244 00:14:15,550 --> 00:14:18,070 No, I'm not even sitting straight right now. 245 00:14:18,070 --> 00:14:22,430 Listen, I got legs hanging over thighs for days, booties for 246 00:14:22,430 --> 00:14:23,950 days. Like, listen, I'm not even 247 00:14:23,950 --> 00:14:27,870 sitting up tall and straight. So I just, I need people to 248 00:14:27,870 --> 00:14:31,750 understand, like, bisexuality comes in all forms, OK? 249 00:14:33,060 --> 00:14:36,220 One of the studies that I found in 2014, it said that people 250 00:14:36,220 --> 00:14:39,980 consider by men to be more confused, more untrustworthy, 251 00:14:40,180 --> 00:14:45,500 less inclined towards monogamy, not able to be able to maintain 252 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:48,100 a longterm relationship. And the list goes on and on. 253 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:52,580 Greg, what's the longest relationship you have had as a 254 00:14:52,580 --> 00:14:57,710 by man? Going on the one that I'm 255 00:14:57,710 --> 00:15:01,830 currently in, which is going on 6 1/2 years so. 256 00:15:01,830 --> 00:15:04,870 I love that. Now, are you monogamous? 257 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:06,910 Open. Very much so. 258 00:15:06,910 --> 00:15:08,990 Okay. And I think that a lot of 259 00:15:08,990 --> 00:15:12,670 people, when they think of bisexuality as kind of like. 260 00:15:13,870 --> 00:15:16,350 As like a concept they see, Oh well, you know, you're you're 261 00:15:16,350 --> 00:15:18,510 attracted to everyone, you're attracted to men, you're 262 00:15:18,510 --> 00:15:20,990 attracted to women, you're attracted to non binary people. 263 00:15:21,350 --> 00:15:23,110 Great. Well you must be a non 264 00:15:23,110 --> 00:15:25,710 practicing bisexual because you're in a relationship with a 265 00:15:25,710 --> 00:15:27,990 woman. And I just got to scream about 266 00:15:27,990 --> 00:15:32,630 that because I'm attracted to women, like that's that's part 267 00:15:32,630 --> 00:15:36,530 of my attractions. Yeah, I'm still I I don't have 268 00:15:36,530 --> 00:15:39,530 to be in a relationship with both a man and a woman and a 269 00:15:39,530 --> 00:15:43,730 nonbinary person just to be fulfilled as a sexual being and 270 00:15:43,730 --> 00:15:45,970 as as a human bisexual, you know? 271 00:15:46,530 --> 00:15:52,490 And it's a common misconception that we need to be also 272 00:15:52,490 --> 00:15:56,090 polyamorous. There's nothing wrong with being 273 00:15:56,090 --> 00:15:59,130 fucking polyamorous. There's nothing wrong with with 274 00:15:59,530 --> 00:16:04,300 having multiple partners. You just like but. 275 00:16:04,340 --> 00:16:07,020 But there are those of us who are bisexual who are also 276 00:16:07,060 --> 00:16:09,740 monogamous. Yeah, we exist. 277 00:16:09,980 --> 00:16:12,660 We're around. This is the the joke I like to 278 00:16:13,580 --> 00:16:17,660 that I see all the time about this is like bisexual women are 279 00:16:17,660 --> 00:16:21,460 always lusted after by straight men. 280 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:25,420 Always. And bisexual men are only seen 281 00:16:25,420 --> 00:16:29,530 as gay. Or are only seen as or are just 282 00:16:29,530 --> 00:16:32,850 not seen whatsoever. So you have invisibility on one 283 00:16:32,850 --> 00:16:37,690 side and fetishization on the other, without taking into 284 00:16:37,690 --> 00:16:42,210 account that, like, our identities exist outside of 285 00:16:42,330 --> 00:16:46,170 other people's perception of it. I'm attracted to men, I'm 286 00:16:46,170 --> 00:16:48,490 attracted to women, I'm attracted to nonbinary people. 287 00:16:48,490 --> 00:16:50,610 So fucking get used to it. I'm in a monogamous 288 00:16:50,610 --> 00:16:52,530 relationship. I don't need everyone else. 289 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,560 I'm glad you said, yeah, I'm glad you said that. 290 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,280 Because again, like as I said, I own up to my mistakes that I've 291 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:05,119 ever said about by men and continuously have, you know 292 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,599 apologized for it. I'm glad that I've never been 293 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:10,680 like cancelled or you know, people are like fuck safaris 294 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,319 your place. She doesn't accept by men. 295 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,079 No, I accept buy anything. I accept all different people. 296 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:20,720 I've just feel that at an age that I was at believe I was like 297 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,240 2627. Young dumb. 298 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,960 And I was only thinking about the next motherfucker who was 299 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,040 coming over to fuck the pussy. Like I don't give a fuck. 300 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,520 Like I'm sorry, but like, we can all know you are ignorant. 301 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,200 We evolve as individuals. Exactly. 302 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,080 You know, coming out isn't a one time thing I thought it was. 303 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,920 But the more I interrogate my own identity and the more I 304 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:50,040 interrogate my own sense of self, the more I start realizing 305 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,200 just how much coming out is a constant process. 306 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,640 You are constantly interrogating yourself. 307 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,400 You should be constantly interrogating your identity and 308 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,840 constantly thinking about how you. 309 00:18:02,670 --> 00:18:05,750 Interpret your identity and how you want to present to the 310 00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:08,110 world. Because gender is a performance 311 00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:13,350 and sexuality is what you feel. So those are two separate 312 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:17,070 concepts. I can't that we need to divorce 313 00:18:17,070 --> 00:18:20,070 and that we need to to break apart. 314 00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:23,390 And once you realize that sexuality exists outside of sis 315 00:18:23,390 --> 00:18:27,440 men, that most. People like to focus on because 316 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,160 everything centers on six on six men. 317 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,040 So for bisexual women it's oh, well, they're attracted to men 318 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,440 and they're attracted to women too. 319 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:41,880 Guys, for bisexual and for bisexual men, it's well, they're 320 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:47,160 basically gay and it's like, no, we have we contain multitudes 321 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,540 within us and. It's all about like and and 322 00:18:51,540 --> 00:18:54,500 seeing that representation on the screen is very difficult to 323 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:56,460 see. Oh, I was just because. 324 00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:58,660 Like, we don't get that. Yeah, we don't get the, the, 325 00:18:58,660 --> 00:19:00,260 the, the representation on screen. 326 00:19:00,260 --> 00:19:03,940 We don't really get the representation in video games 327 00:19:03,980 --> 00:19:08,500 or, you know, TV shows, movies on the radio, we don't get that. 328 00:19:08,820 --> 00:19:11,260 You know, I'm glad that you mentioned that, because I've 329 00:19:11,260 --> 00:19:14,900 definitely noticed that every time that there is a bisexual 330 00:19:15,220 --> 00:19:19,030 man. Like male character or even 331 00:19:19,030 --> 00:19:22,310 just, you know, androgynous, bisexual character. 332 00:19:22,910 --> 00:19:27,350 It's always feminine, making them more gay than they already 333 00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:30,830 are. Then they just happen to be in a 334 00:19:30,830 --> 00:19:33,110 relationship with a woman, but they're still going to go and 335 00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:35,950 revert back to the man. And I'm like, well, that's doing 336 00:19:35,950 --> 00:19:39,470 a disservice if you're making the bisexual woman. 337 00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:44,220 Mean you know films, television what have you as the promiscuous 338 00:19:44,260 --> 00:19:48,700 vixen and you're having the by man or the you know, male. 339 00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:54,420 Presenting bisexual as confused. The what does that say about the 340 00:19:54,420 --> 00:19:58,460 representation there. Furthermore, a new study in at 341 00:19:58,460 --> 00:20:00,380 the Williams Institute here in UCLA. 342 00:20:01,030 --> 00:20:04,910 In Los Angeles, they show that it's cisgender bisexual 343 00:20:04,910 --> 00:20:08,110 employees are less likely to be open about their sexual 344 00:20:08,110 --> 00:20:11,790 orientation at work than a cisgender gay and lesbian 345 00:20:11,790 --> 00:20:14,230 employee. They said only about 1/3. 346 00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:18,910 So that's 36% from the study of cisgender bisexual employees 347 00:20:19,150 --> 00:20:21,670 were out to their supervisors, compared to their three 348 00:20:21,670 --> 00:20:26,430 quarters, 75%. That's a very big jump. 75% of 349 00:20:26,430 --> 00:20:32,590 cisgender gay men and lesbians. Where's the disconnect of that? 350 00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:37,070 Now you spilt some tea to me, and this is at your full 351 00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:39,350 discretion. If you want to share this, 352 00:20:39,350 --> 00:20:43,070 because I definitely had made a point of it, shout out to All 353 00:20:43,070 --> 00:20:46,030 Access. I did do a recent interview 354 00:20:46,030 --> 00:20:49,910 about being queer and you know the representation that we lack 355 00:20:49,910 --> 00:20:52,790 in the radio industry. And you and I, Greg, we come 356 00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:56,230 from radio, we're queer voices in radio. 357 00:20:56,230 --> 00:21:01,680 But you had told me. That an employer didn't like so 358 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,160 much the fact that you were openly bisexual. 359 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:09,840 Yeah, I've been told that well. So a little backing up a little 360 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,200 bit. I was if they they did say that 361 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:20,280 it was OK at 1st and I was, I was allowed to and I talked 362 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,680 about my experience on the air and at the time my manager told 363 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,180 me. This is how my manager at the 364 00:21:27,180 --> 00:21:29,300 time was a gay man. And so he understood that the 365 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:31,740 importance of representation, the importance of, you know, 366 00:21:31,740 --> 00:21:33,260 presenting yourself in a certain way. 367 00:21:33,780 --> 00:21:40,700 And so I, when I came out, IRLI also came out on the air and I 368 00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:43,540 talked about my experiences. I talked about how I felt about 369 00:21:43,540 --> 00:21:49,620 it, how it did and didn't change who I was as a person and. 370 00:21:50,210 --> 00:21:54,170 I just kind of kept that as a part of my show where I would 371 00:21:54,170 --> 00:21:57,570 talk, Not necessarily, you know, I wouldn't always come out and, 372 00:21:57,570 --> 00:22:00,290 you know, and say, hey, I'm bisexual, let's have a, let's 373 00:22:00,450 --> 00:22:02,330 have a conversation. But like, you know, when we're 374 00:22:02,330 --> 00:22:05,610 having conversations about like queer performers, like, you 375 00:22:05,610 --> 00:22:08,890 know, you think about Halsey Demi Lovato, I worked at a pop 376 00:22:08,890 --> 00:22:10,850 station. So we played these artists 377 00:22:10,850 --> 00:22:13,330 constantly. And these two artists are very 378 00:22:13,330 --> 00:22:16,210 openly bisexual now. They're also non binary and I am 379 00:22:16,210 --> 00:22:17,850 a CIS man. But at the same time I could 380 00:22:17,850 --> 00:22:20,420 say. Like, I see representation here 381 00:22:20,580 --> 00:22:24,500 with these two bisexual people and they're amazing and I love 382 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:26,460 their music. And I would come out of, you 383 00:22:26,460 --> 00:22:30,380 know, Halsey and I'd say my bicon Halsey, you know, on on 384 00:22:30,380 --> 00:22:32,820 such and such radio stations. But you know, and and that was 385 00:22:32,860 --> 00:22:36,060 like little things. And I had gone to events where I 386 00:22:36,060 --> 00:22:38,980 would meet some listeners who would come up to me and say, 387 00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:41,580 hey, I'm so glad you talked about being queer on the air. 388 00:22:41,580 --> 00:22:44,740 I discovered that I am queer too in the last couple of months. 389 00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:47,990 And I got to tell you, it's like the greatest goddamn thing in 390 00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:50,670 the world when you realize that you have connected with somebody 391 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:54,790 on such a deep, emotional and fundamental level with their 392 00:22:54,790 --> 00:23:00,110 identity. When my boss was let go, I was, 393 00:23:00,230 --> 00:23:02,230 you know, they brought somebody else in who didn't really know 394 00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:04,470 the market. And he told me, you know, you 395 00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:08,350 got to tone this down. And I was so frustrated with 396 00:23:08,350 --> 00:23:14,370 that because, like. Seeing the impact that you have 397 00:23:14,370 --> 00:23:22,330 on people and then having that ripped away is so heartbreaking, 398 00:23:23,290 --> 00:23:26,940 you know and. That, you know, And then I was 399 00:23:26,940 --> 00:23:30,660 let go like a year later and it was like OK, you know, reduction 400 00:23:30,660 --> 00:23:33,380 in force, whatever, you know, radio, radio going to do, what 401 00:23:33,380 --> 00:23:35,980 radio going to do. But at the same time, like now 402 00:23:36,020 --> 00:23:40,700 I'm, I'm what I've been doing on the side is I, well, I haven't 403 00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:42,420 been able to find a fulltime job in radio. 404 00:23:42,420 --> 00:23:44,620 But what I've been doing on the side is I've been teaching a 405 00:23:44,620 --> 00:23:49,940 radio course at a local college here and I have queer students 406 00:23:50,420 --> 00:23:54,500 and I have gone up in front of my classroom wearing a bisexual 407 00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:56,810 pen. And I've had students come up to 408 00:23:56,810 --> 00:23:58,890 me and say, hey, I'm glad I'm represented here. 409 00:23:59,650 --> 00:24:03,810 And it takes a lot for me to be like, look, the radio industries 410 00:24:03,810 --> 00:24:06,570 fucking sucks. It's terrible for 411 00:24:06,570 --> 00:24:09,130 representation. You're probably going to find 412 00:24:09,130 --> 00:24:13,170 managers that don't believe that you are who you are, that aren't 413 00:24:13,170 --> 00:24:16,490 going to believe in you. But the most important thing is 414 00:24:16,490 --> 00:24:19,970 that you've got to own your identity and you've got to wear 415 00:24:19,970 --> 00:24:21,290 it. Either you don't even have to 416 00:24:21,290 --> 00:24:23,770 wear it on your sleeve, but own your identity and don't let 417 00:24:23,770 --> 00:24:26,720 yourself be compromised. For your career. 418 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,600 And it's a hard thing to tell people to jump into the wolves. 419 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,640 Then dressed in a meat dress, you know, oh. 420 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,680 My God. No, seriously. 421 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,320 That. First of all, I'm glad that you 422 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,840 were able to Share your story on that because I feel like there 423 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,560 are a lot of people out there, even though that they are laws 424 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,680 changing about, you know, what people do outside of their work 425 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,760 force shouldn't necessarily reflect why they're being fired. 426 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,350 But you and I both know. The discrimination, especially 427 00:24:56,350 --> 00:25:00,990 being a radio figure, is worse. Radio is so bad with 428 00:25:00,990 --> 00:25:02,390 discrimination. Holy shit. 429 00:25:02,670 --> 00:25:05,030 Like, I mean, just thinking about just thinking about your 430 00:25:05,030 --> 00:25:09,550 story, you know, you, you as a queer black woman and all of the 431 00:25:09,550 --> 00:25:10,870 shit that you've had to go through. 432 00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:14,070 It's so infuriating to me. But it pisses me off the most 433 00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:18,150 because again, it's like you have your gay representation in 434 00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:22,590 radio always played up. The more flamboyant, the better. 435 00:25:23,170 --> 00:25:25,090 I don't find you flamboyant at all. 436 00:25:25,370 --> 00:25:29,450 It just so happens that you're bisexual and you may talk about 437 00:25:29,970 --> 00:25:33,130 a man one day and you may talk about a female the another, you 438 00:25:33,130 --> 00:25:36,370 know, the next day, and a transgender and a nonbinary, Who 439 00:25:36,370 --> 00:25:39,650 the fuck cares? But you're you're connecting to 440 00:25:39,650 --> 00:25:43,090 a whole different audience. And I feel even in outside the 441 00:25:43,090 --> 00:25:47,570 radio realm, the dating pool should suggest that too. 442 00:25:47,810 --> 00:25:50,890 When I see on like, Tinder and you know. 443 00:25:51,340 --> 00:25:55,420 Field and Bumble and all that. And literally there are women 444 00:25:55,420 --> 00:25:58,660 just riding in the caption down for bisexuality. 445 00:25:58,660 --> 00:26:01,900 As long as you're not a man, what the fuck does that say? 446 00:26:02,540 --> 00:26:04,620 Like that's I see this all the time. 447 00:26:04,820 --> 00:26:06,420 OK? I only see this online. 448 00:26:06,420 --> 00:26:09,380 I've never experienced that level of biphobia in person. 449 00:26:09,420 --> 00:26:10,740 Thank God. Saying, you know. 450 00:26:11,260 --> 00:26:14,500 I got to tell you the the queer community in San Jose is fucking 451 00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:16,380 incredible. All of the people that I have 452 00:26:16,380 --> 00:26:19,820 met, I've met amazing human beings that are gay, that are 453 00:26:19,820 --> 00:26:23,900 non binary, that are bisexual, that are lesbian, they're all 454 00:26:24,260 --> 00:26:25,860 and trans like they're all amazing. 455 00:26:26,860 --> 00:26:29,060 So I've never experienced this in real life. 456 00:26:29,060 --> 00:26:33,060 But man, online the shit that you can't just for. 457 00:26:33,450 --> 00:26:37,650 Having a bisexual flag in the video that you post, I don't 458 00:26:37,650 --> 00:26:39,370 leave so many comments on TikTok. 459 00:26:39,490 --> 00:26:41,490 It just doesn't make any sense to me. 460 00:26:41,490 --> 00:26:44,810 It's like, yeah, it makes no sense to me because I'm just 461 00:26:44,810 --> 00:26:48,570 like you would never, you would never walk up to Greg if he's 462 00:26:48,570 --> 00:26:52,450 wearing his beautiful bisexuality hat that he's worn 463 00:26:52,450 --> 00:26:56,370 in pictures on Instagram or if he's wearing his gay, you know, 464 00:26:56,370 --> 00:26:59,130 watch band. You wouldn't go up to him and be 465 00:26:59,130 --> 00:27:01,530 like, Nah, brah, Nah, he can't do that here. 466 00:27:01,730 --> 00:27:02,890 You would. You just wouldn't. 467 00:27:02,890 --> 00:27:06,650 But you feel comfortable behind the screen to dictate who 468 00:27:06,650 --> 00:27:09,850 somebody should have in bed. What does that say about the the 469 00:27:09,850 --> 00:27:13,170 society that we live in, where it's cool to be by As long as 470 00:27:13,170 --> 00:27:15,610 you're a chick. It's cool to be trans as long as 471 00:27:15,610 --> 00:27:19,370 you're a chick. Heaven forbid we got trans men 472 00:27:19,370 --> 00:27:21,370 and trans women just walking around freely. 473 00:27:21,530 --> 00:27:24,570 We're still calling them and misgendering them the wrong way. 474 00:27:24,930 --> 00:27:28,540 Now, you mentioned Demi Lovato. I got a bone to pick with with 475 00:27:28,540 --> 00:27:31,900 her because. So I there's there's a lot about 476 00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:36,340 Demi that is frustrating, but I feel that a lot of that comes 477 00:27:36,340 --> 00:27:39,260 and we should totally have this conversation because I I 478 00:27:39,260 --> 00:27:40,860 personally really, really love them. 479 00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:44,100 And I realize that a lot of what they've gone through is 480 00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:47,820 extremely traumatic and they've never, they've never been one of 481 00:27:47,820 --> 00:27:49,580 those people that says the right thing. 482 00:27:50,060 --> 00:27:52,740 They always say the wrong shit, always. 483 00:27:53,140 --> 00:27:55,700 And it's like, I get it. I love their music. 484 00:27:57,110 --> 00:28:00,350 But let's let's talk about this because there was a big news 485 00:28:00,350 --> 00:28:04,270 article that came out in June. I think it was like early June 486 00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:08,990 where they said, look, I'm okay with people using she, her 487 00:28:08,990 --> 00:28:13,710 pronouns for me because I'm tired of correcting people. 488 00:28:14,670 --> 00:28:18,670 And what that told me as I read like all of the headlines said 489 00:28:19,070 --> 00:28:23,670 Demi Lovato prefers, you know, is done with they them once she 490 00:28:23,670 --> 00:28:26,000 her right. Which isn't the point of the 491 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,600 article. The point of the article is that 492 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,840 they are tired of correcting people with their correct 493 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,320 pronouns, so they still go by date them. 494 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,360 But if people refer to Demi as she her, they're not going to be 495 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,680 upset. Which I, which I just did, but 496 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,720 also at the same time, it's OK. Yeah, no, what I was going to 497 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,960 say is just also I I have seen now a trend with Demi because 498 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,040 again I think their story is powerful. 499 00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:58,060 I think Demi in their own right is someone you know who the 500 00:28:58,060 --> 00:29:01,060 media can be a little bit too harsh to. 501 00:29:01,060 --> 00:29:05,060 But also at the same time I'm like we need to stop banking on 502 00:29:05,060 --> 00:29:08,060 the fact that Demi Lovato is this all around queer icon. 503 00:29:08,540 --> 00:29:11,940 Because personally for me the thing in the pattern I've been 504 00:29:11,940 --> 00:29:16,580 seeing is that six light density has only been a thing to them 505 00:29:16,780 --> 00:29:19,860 during Pride month. I have only seen the major 506 00:29:19,860 --> 00:29:22,660 announcements with them literally during. 507 00:29:22,990 --> 00:29:28,270 June, it is not any other day. It is not every other, you know, 508 00:29:28,270 --> 00:29:31,030 month of the year. It is always been around June 509 00:29:31,310 --> 00:29:34,550 and that's where I have my little kind of off putting to 510 00:29:34,550 --> 00:29:38,750 celebrities when I see them feeling the need to come out in 511 00:29:38,750 --> 00:29:41,430 the month of June. Because what is that set as an 512 00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:46,070 example for folks like you and I who came out, Yeah, sure. 513 00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:49,350 National by Visibility Day, that's acceptable. 514 00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:52,560 That's November. You know despite what claims 515 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,880 say, people like to say that it's in in June as well. 516 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,200 No, that is in November. With that also said is what does 517 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,280 it say for the people who are just living normal lives and 518 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,840 they feel like they have to come out during Pride. 519 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,080 You should be able to come out anytime you want. 520 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,560 But also if you're supposed to be this leader as celebrities as 521 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,200 we like to uphold them as I don't think they are doing a 522 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,850 genuine service. For the non binary folks out 523 00:30:22,850 --> 00:30:26,610 there when they want to flip the script because they're tied to 524 00:30:26,610 --> 00:30:30,290 correcting people, if I had a dollar for every time I had to 525 00:30:30,290 --> 00:30:34,730 correct somebody, but I'm going to tell them it's acceptable for 526 00:30:34,730 --> 00:30:37,650 them to call me the N word honey, I'd have no fucking job. 527 00:30:38,290 --> 00:30:39,930 Oh my God. That too. 528 00:30:39,930 --> 00:30:42,490 Holy shit. So then, bringing it back to 529 00:30:42,490 --> 00:30:47,890 bisexuality, you as a man should be able to say I'm bisexual. 530 00:30:48,270 --> 00:30:51,550 And you, you know, the girl or guy who's interested. 531 00:30:52,150 --> 00:30:54,790 They have the prerogative to say no, but they don't have the 532 00:30:54,790 --> 00:30:57,990 prerogative to say, well, that's just not normal. 533 00:30:58,030 --> 00:31:00,190 I can't do that. What can't you do? 534 00:31:00,310 --> 00:31:04,070 What is so intimidating that someone likes a little bit of 535 00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:08,910 both but is genuinely saying I'm interested in you? 536 00:31:08,910 --> 00:31:14,030 This is just so happens to be another half of me who hurts 537 00:31:14,030 --> 00:31:16,700 you. 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Now back to the show. 556 00:32:17,210 --> 00:32:19,970 I think actually so you brought up something that is really 557 00:32:19,970 --> 00:32:23,170 fascinating to me and it's the way in which the media treats 558 00:32:23,370 --> 00:32:25,700 different. The different genders versus 559 00:32:25,940 --> 00:32:27,580 when it comes to their sexuality. 560 00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:31,940 So Demi is a great example of someone who does not get a lot 561 00:32:31,940 --> 00:32:36,460 of good press ever, every little thing that they do that is 562 00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:38,940 considered or that could be objectionable. 563 00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:41,540 And look to be fair there's been a lot of things that they've 564 00:32:41,540 --> 00:32:43,980 done that are objectionable. It gets printed. 565 00:32:45,420 --> 00:32:49,660 I I often think about the way that the media handles Demi 566 00:32:49,660 --> 00:32:53,900 Lovato versus somebody like Neil Patrick Harris now. 567 00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:58,620 Neil Patrick Harris, I I love. I love his acting. 568 00:32:58,660 --> 00:33:00,300 He's been great in a lot of movies. 569 00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,660 He has done a lot of shit as a gay man. 570 00:33:03,780 --> 00:33:07,540 That is very bad, not just for the community, but just as a 571 00:33:07,540 --> 00:33:10,140 human being, like the whole Amy Winehouse thing. 572 00:33:10,140 --> 00:33:12,860 I don't know if you know about this, with the cake that looked 573 00:33:12,860 --> 00:33:17,460 like Amy Winehouse's body when she passed away and like. 574 00:33:18,190 --> 00:33:21,950 Hearing about how what an asshole he is behind the scenes 575 00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:25,030 and it's just like, but nobody talks about the terrible things 576 00:33:25,030 --> 00:33:29,030 that he does. But the media loves to focus on 577 00:33:29,070 --> 00:33:32,470 a queer woman who has done something wrong. 578 00:33:33,270 --> 00:33:37,390 And like, OK, there's a lot of other celebrities that we have 579 00:33:37,390 --> 00:33:40,510 that are not white, that we could be talking about his 580 00:33:40,510 --> 00:33:44,070 representation as well. One person I will say, is the 581 00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:46,830 media portrayal of Kehlani. Okay. 582 00:33:48,190 --> 00:33:51,670 Openly openly bisexual, very, very queer. 583 00:33:51,670 --> 00:33:55,270 Has had several relationships with women and yet people 584 00:33:55,270 --> 00:33:58,030 couldn't wrap the like wrap it around their heads. 585 00:33:58,270 --> 00:34:02,750 As to why Kehlani had a baby with a man and could not wrap 586 00:34:02,750 --> 00:34:08,310 their selves around the fact that a black, you know, a POC 587 00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:14,469 bisexual woman, nonbinary, I believe they also identify as. 588 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,880 Was willing to have a baby with. I believe the guy was gay. 589 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,000 They could not wrap that around their heads at all. 590 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,560 And I'm like, again, if they're two loving people that want to 591 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,320 bring a child out of love the good oldfashioned way, so be it. 592 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,600 News flash y'all kids are not cheap and kids are definitely 593 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,320 not cheap to have when you are part of the L GB TQ Plus 594 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,239 community. Yeah. 595 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,520 Oh yeah. I mean, and and also look at 596 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,600 like somebody else that doesn't get a lot of recognition, even 597 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,600 though they absolutely should. Janelle Monáe. 598 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,400 Oh my God. Oh my God, like brilliant 599 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,120 musician, amazing actor. And she gets no love. 600 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,680 It's like. No, she she's called. 601 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,040 She's called a hoe and everything else underneath the 602 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,360 sun, especially lately with the age of pleasure. 603 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,720 I'm sorry, but I've been a Janelle Monáe fan since 2003. 604 00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:14,550 OK. Can we? 605 00:35:14,590 --> 00:35:19,310 Talk about what a fucking anthem lipstick lover is, cuz holy shit 606 00:35:19,350 --> 00:35:23,430 it's so good. That entire album is just the 607 00:35:23,550 --> 00:35:30,150 queer Summer playlist. It is a very unapologetic vibe. 608 00:35:30,350 --> 00:35:34,590 But again, why is it that, you know, bringing it to the 609 00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:38,150 bisexual bisexuality part? Why aren't we celebrating 610 00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:40,710 bisexual artistry? Why? 611 00:35:40,910 --> 00:35:43,750 Why is it that it's acceptable to an extent? 612 00:35:44,510 --> 00:35:48,190 That women can be bisexual on their albums, but dare a man do 613 00:35:48,190 --> 00:35:50,630 so? I mean, if Sam Smith was to come 614 00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:53,870 out and say that he's bisexual one day because he's doing 615 00:35:53,870 --> 00:35:57,030 questionable shit to women and his music, music videos all the 616 00:35:57,030 --> 00:36:00,030 time, y'all would not ride the train. 617 00:36:00,030 --> 00:36:04,070 You would drop that man so fast, in a heartbeat quicker than you 618 00:36:04,070 --> 00:36:06,830 already have as him being just solely gay. 619 00:36:07,450 --> 00:36:10,370 I do want to real a real quick correction because Sam Smith is 620 00:36:10,370 --> 00:36:12,930 very openly non binary as. Well, thank you. 621 00:36:13,050 --> 00:36:14,530 Thank you. Thank you. 622 00:36:14,970 --> 00:36:16,650 But but this is, this is actually. 623 00:36:16,650 --> 00:36:20,090 It brings up another point because Sam Smith's music is 624 00:36:20,170 --> 00:36:22,890 very like, in your face. They've always kind of been in 625 00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:25,370 your face and they've, you know, like, hey. 626 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,720 I'm queer. Here's me. 627 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,080 I mean, I really do love their music. 628 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,960 Let's let's talk about Unholy. Because when Unholy was 629 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,680 performed, I don't even remember what award show it. 630 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:39,650 Was I think it was the Ama's. So I think you're you're 631 00:36:39,650 --> 00:36:41,730 probably right. But both Sam Smith and Kim 632 00:36:41,730 --> 00:36:44,490 Petrus were on stage, and while they were performing, you know, 633 00:36:44,490 --> 00:36:48,050 Sam had that really cartoonish hat with the devil horns in it. 634 00:36:48,570 --> 00:36:52,410 And an entire segment of the population who, to be fair, 635 00:36:52,570 --> 00:36:55,730 doesn't like queer people anyway, got all up in arms about 636 00:36:55,730 --> 00:36:57,770 how satanic it is and it's like, y'all. 637 00:36:58,730 --> 00:37:02,450 Come on now, you're probably the same people that celebrated 638 00:37:02,450 --> 00:37:06,130 Culture Club not realizing Boy George. 639 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,360 Or mind the fact, look at Elton John's career. 640 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,000 Elton John was an opening bisexual man for years. 641 00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:16,520 For years, and y'all didn't accept him. 642 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,000 The minute he said, sorry y'all, I'm actually gay. 643 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,360 You just thought, oh, it was just the costumes, the 644 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,360 flamboyancy. He's very much into pussy. 645 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,760 No, he was a little bit into both until he wasn't. 646 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,160 And now he's living his life, you know, retired and 647 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,880 fantabulous, you know, in concert. 648 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,520 I was so glad I got to catch the last. 649 00:37:36,050 --> 00:37:39,770 The last concert. But it's like, it's the 650 00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:43,130 treatment for me. When it comes down to Maine, 651 00:37:43,490 --> 00:37:46,730 Y'all are so quick to judge the minute when a man says he's no 652 00:37:46,730 --> 00:37:51,050 longer gay but he's bisexual, or vice versa, that they're no 653 00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:55,050 longer bisexual, that he's gay. Look at even George Michael. 654 00:37:55,630 --> 00:37:57,590 Oh my gosh, yeah. I was going to say like, George 655 00:37:57,590 --> 00:38:01,350 Michael is another example. Lil Nas X is another example. 656 00:38:01,350 --> 00:38:06,150 But like with Lil Nas X there is also the entire like the fact 657 00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:11,230 that he is extremely, extremely openly queer in everything he 658 00:38:11,230 --> 00:38:13,310 does and God damn, I love him for it. 659 00:38:13,470 --> 00:38:17,630 Hell yes, I knew that boy was in the gimmick act all like Lil Nas 660 00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:20,850 X yeah, is not a gimmick. You know I. 661 00:38:21,130 --> 00:38:22,690 Got taught us anything like that. 662 00:38:22,690 --> 00:38:25,050 That album is like, it's fire from start to finish. 663 00:38:25,210 --> 00:38:28,570 It's so good and and like people still looking at it and going 664 00:38:28,570 --> 00:38:31,330 like I was like he's he's just, yeah, he's doing it as a 665 00:38:31,330 --> 00:38:33,410 gimmick. It's like fucking no, this is 666 00:38:33,410 --> 00:38:34,850 him. Like did you listen to any of 667 00:38:34,850 --> 00:38:37,850 the lyrics about how personal it was for him to come out and how 668 00:38:37,850 --> 00:38:41,850 lonely he felt? It was so, so like, ah God, I 669 00:38:41,850 --> 00:38:44,330 love, I God I love Montero so much. 670 00:38:44,650 --> 00:38:46,210 I love it too. Honestly it. 671 00:38:46,590 --> 00:38:50,470 Kind of brought me back to a love, a pop that I had long, 672 00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:55,190 long just deserted just because and just beyond me. 673 00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:57,790 But again, bringing it back to the main topic of, you know, 674 00:38:57,790 --> 00:39:01,950 bisexuality, like, why is it that women especially just do 675 00:39:01,950 --> 00:39:06,910 not want to date bisexual men? It's just it does not make sense 676 00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:09,340 to me. I consider myself to be very 677 00:39:09,340 --> 00:39:14,980 lucky because I met my partner before, after or I I haven't 678 00:39:14,980 --> 00:39:19,580 been on Tinder or any other dating, dating, anything for 679 00:39:19,580 --> 00:39:23,710 again like 7 years so. I I've been out of the dating 680 00:39:23,710 --> 00:39:24,870 game. But seeing some of the 681 00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:27,790 screenshots online, and I know that they're the most extreme 682 00:39:27,790 --> 00:39:31,230 screenshots that you see of you know, women's profile pictures 683 00:39:31,230 --> 00:39:35,310 that say or women's BIOS that say you know will not date by 684 00:39:35,310 --> 00:39:37,790 men. And then seeing like messages 685 00:39:37,790 --> 00:39:40,630 back and forth of like some terrible shit that they say to 686 00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:44,710 bisexual guys where they're like no, ooh, you've had you've had a 687 00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:48,750 Dick in your ass how let's grow. It's like fucking grow up like 688 00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:51,190 what? What the hell is wrong with you? 689 00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:55,190 It's like as long as we. 23 And yeah, gay rights are being taken 690 00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:58,910 away all over the country, but look like it's 2023. 691 00:39:58,990 --> 00:40:01,270 Fucking grow up. At this point, it's like you 692 00:40:01,270 --> 00:40:04,110 should be asking yourself who hasn't had a Dick in their ass? 693 00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:06,790 I mean right exactly. Who hasn't who? 694 00:40:07,150 --> 00:40:10,750 Who hasn't sucked a Dick? I mean as like one of my amazing 695 00:40:10,750 --> 00:40:14,590 partners, who's the man had said on my podcast a few years ago, 696 00:40:15,710 --> 00:40:19,750 talking about being a straight man who has been with trans 697 00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:21,430 women, he's like at the end of the day. 698 00:40:21,810 --> 00:40:23,570 Yeah, I sucked a Dick. But you know what? 699 00:40:23,570 --> 00:40:25,690 It's just a tool. It's not. 700 00:40:25,770 --> 00:40:29,370 It's not what makes me. That doesn't make me gay because 701 00:40:29,410 --> 00:40:31,810 I sucked a Dick. I sucked a tool. 702 00:40:32,090 --> 00:40:34,610 What people don't quite understand is that the sex organ 703 00:40:34,610 --> 00:40:37,810 isn't the person. No, it's just it's it's it's 704 00:40:37,810 --> 00:40:39,970 there. And if you if you're if you want 705 00:40:39,970 --> 00:40:42,970 the pleasure, you get the pleasure if you're now. 706 00:40:42,970 --> 00:40:46,370 Maybe that's just my bisexuality coming out, but like it it 707 00:40:46,370 --> 00:40:49,890 doesn't matter to me what parts my partner has. 708 00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:51,740 You know. I'm glad you said that. 709 00:40:52,260 --> 00:40:56,980 Cuz like it's just and I so this is this actually is a thing that 710 00:40:56,980 --> 00:41:01,580 happened at Pride last year. I'm I have a a big bisexual flag 711 00:41:01,580 --> 00:41:04,980 and I'm kind of known now around the Pride space where I'm the 712 00:41:04,980 --> 00:41:09,180 one that kind of runs around Pride generally in the parade 713 00:41:09,460 --> 00:41:13,500 giving people by fives. So run up to someone and go why 714 00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:18,960 5 and I give them a a high 5. So I I was waving my bisexual 715 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,960 flag around and somebody came up and and they had a they had a 716 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,320 pansexual flag. And I said hey, by 5. 717 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,880 You know what I gave? I gave them a, a high five. 718 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,600 And they said, oh, you know, yeah, yeah, you know, I'm 719 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,360 basically bisexual too. But I I don't really care about 720 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,080 the parts. It's parts not hearts or it's 721 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,920 it's hearts not parts for me. And I said, and I stopped and I 722 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,120 said, well, hold on a second because I don't give a crap 723 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,520 about parts either. And I blew their mind. 724 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,240 They went, wait, really? And I said, what do you think 725 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:51,560 bisexuality is like? The difference between 726 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,360 bisexuality and pansexuality are like, they're very similar. 727 00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,720 In many ways, very. But it's more a matter of like 728 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:04,480 bisexuals are. It's like the giant umbrella and 729 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,520 you kind of get the feeling that like, OK, gender. 730 00:42:07,890 --> 00:42:11,210 Could play a role in attraction, or maybe there's gender traits 731 00:42:11,210 --> 00:42:12,690 that you like. For me, it's like there's 732 00:42:12,690 --> 00:42:15,170 certain things about men I like, there's certain things about 733 00:42:15,170 --> 00:42:17,930 women I like, there's certain things about non binary people I 734 00:42:17,930 --> 00:42:20,170 like. And so I sort of see myself as 735 00:42:20,170 --> 00:42:23,730 somewhere in the like somewhere bisexual basically, If anything, 736 00:42:23,730 --> 00:42:25,410 maybe omnisexual. I don't. 737 00:42:25,410 --> 00:42:29,650 Know. But but for pansexuals, it's 738 00:42:29,650 --> 00:42:33,170 just that gender doesn't factor into your attraction at all. 739 00:42:33,490 --> 00:42:36,690 That's the the the main difference, as we understand it, 740 00:42:36,730 --> 00:42:39,340 is. For pansexuals, they don't care. 741 00:42:39,420 --> 00:42:41,620 It's just like, oh, if I'm attracted to you, I'm attracted 742 00:42:41,620 --> 00:42:42,940 to you. But functionally, that's 743 00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:45,620 basically similar to the how I function. 744 00:42:45,660 --> 00:42:49,500 If I like somebody, I'm not thinking like, well, they're, 745 00:42:49,620 --> 00:42:52,420 you know, maybe I'm not feeling like Dick today. 746 00:42:52,460 --> 00:42:54,660 No, I don't think about that. I'm just like, I really like 747 00:42:54,660 --> 00:42:57,780 this person and that's it. That's where it ends or where I 748 00:42:57,780 --> 00:42:59,940 should say where it starts. And that's you know what? 749 00:42:59,940 --> 00:43:00,900 I'm glad that you mentioned that. 750 00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:03,780 Because again, like, even with pansexuality, I'd like to say 751 00:43:03,780 --> 00:43:06,780 like pan is like the pan. That you cook with. 752 00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:10,540 Sometimes you cook with one singular thing, then you might 753 00:43:10,540 --> 00:43:13,140 cook it up and you add other flavors and spices. 754 00:43:13,140 --> 00:43:16,500 That's your your your pansexuality, if you will, your 755 00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:19,580 bisexuality. It's like you get a little best 756 00:43:19,580 --> 00:43:23,060 of both worlds. Because by means too if you look 757 00:43:23,060 --> 00:43:25,340 at if you break it down in Latin, you know. 758 00:43:25,340 --> 00:43:30,420 And again bisexuality doesn't have a limitation either. 759 00:43:30,620 --> 00:43:32,700 You like what you like. At the end of the day it 760 00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:35,500 shouldn't matter. And when people you know. 761 00:43:35,890 --> 00:43:39,810 Get offended by, you know, you saying like, Oh well, it's not 762 00:43:39,810 --> 00:43:42,370 about the the genders. I'm like, no, I do get offended 763 00:43:42,370 --> 00:43:45,410 because it's not about the genders. 764 00:43:45,410 --> 00:43:49,730 We shouldn't just limit it to the sexual aspect of what 765 00:43:49,730 --> 00:43:53,850 sexuality encompasses, if that makes sense. 766 00:43:54,210 --> 00:43:57,450 Yeah, so I actually do know where bisexuality comes from 767 00:43:58,050 --> 00:43:59,810 because I did the research on this shit. 768 00:44:00,810 --> 00:44:05,910 Thank you. In the in the 1800s there was a 769 00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:09,630 guy by the name of Charles Gilbert Chaddock and he was 770 00:44:09,630 --> 00:44:14,350 studying plants and he came up with the word bisexual to mean. 771 00:44:14,970 --> 00:44:17,970 Plants that exhibit the properties of two different 772 00:44:17,970 --> 00:44:21,090 genders, that was where the the the word originally came from. 773 00:44:21,210 --> 00:44:24,890 But by the time the 1930s rolled around and we had what is it? 774 00:44:24,890 --> 00:44:28,850 The the Institute of Sexual Research in in Germany, which 775 00:44:28,850 --> 00:44:31,130 I'm sure you've had a lot of conversations with people around 776 00:44:31,370 --> 00:44:34,410 where they talked about bisexuality, primarily 777 00:44:34,410 --> 00:44:37,770 transgender. It was primarily like a trans 778 00:44:37,770 --> 00:44:39,890 institute, but they studied sexuality as well. 779 00:44:39,890 --> 00:44:43,490 And by then they had works that were specifically writing about 780 00:44:43,770 --> 00:44:46,250 people who were attracted. Did to multiple genders. 781 00:44:47,050 --> 00:44:50,650 And then in the 1960s, everybody kind of was like, oh, you know, 782 00:44:50,650 --> 00:44:53,770 sexuality is kind of fluid. And then bisexuality kind of 783 00:44:53,770 --> 00:44:56,090 started to become a big thing. And then we had, you know, 784 00:44:56,130 --> 00:45:00,170 Brenda Howard, obviously, who was very openly bisexual, 785 00:45:00,170 --> 00:45:02,570 polyamorous, the mother of pride, all of that. 786 00:45:02,810 --> 00:45:05,170 So as early as the. One of the mothers. 787 00:45:05,370 --> 00:45:06,810 Sexuality. One of the mothers. 788 00:45:06,810 --> 00:45:08,570 One of the mothers. Thank you for the corrections. 789 00:45:08,570 --> 00:45:12,630 So. As as early as the 1930s, the 790 00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:16,870 word bisexual meant attraction to genders other than your own. 791 00:45:17,230 --> 00:45:20,390 Like that was the the, the entire, the entire spectrum of 792 00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:21,110 it. So that's where the word 793 00:45:21,110 --> 00:45:23,470 bisexual came from. So it might have had the root of 794 00:45:24,070 --> 00:45:26,790 of two, but it did in the future. 795 00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:31,030 It kind of grew into the two, the two types of of attractions, 796 00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:33,390 attraction to one's gender and attraction to other genders. 797 00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:35,500 So anyway there. You. 798 00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:37,660 Go. I like it. 799 00:45:37,660 --> 00:45:40,220 Thank you. I was going to say in rapping, I 800 00:45:40,220 --> 00:45:42,460 found this very interesting. And I wonder if you had heard 801 00:45:42,460 --> 00:45:45,180 about this. This came out in May. 802 00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:48,580 Actually. There was an Australian study 803 00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:56,660 conducted that they said, can you tell specifically a man is 804 00:45:56,660 --> 00:46:00,500 bisexual just by their voice? And people were saying, well, 805 00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:02,580 yeah, we got gaydar, this is Bidar. 806 00:46:02,580 --> 00:46:05,660 And I'm like. First of all, this sounds lame 807 00:46:05,660 --> 00:46:10,380 as fuck, because sometimes our gaydar can be weighed the fuck 808 00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:15,220 off like you might think a man sounds gay or woman sounds gay. 809 00:46:15,220 --> 00:46:17,740 And they're neither. They're neither. 810 00:46:17,940 --> 00:46:22,460 I call it my bifocals around. So I'm like my buy. 811 00:46:22,460 --> 00:46:25,420 If that's the case. My buy in gaydar has been off 812 00:46:25,420 --> 00:46:28,100 the charts. Because, honey, I like them all. 813 00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:30,260 I don't care. Like, at this point. 814 00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:34,860 You know I'm very queer and I'm more just gravitated to the 815 00:46:34,940 --> 00:46:38,140 beings and not so much of like what you got down there or 816 00:46:38,140 --> 00:46:39,940 upstairs. I don't give a fuck as long as 817 00:46:39,940 --> 00:46:42,660 you are just not doing harm in the community. 818 00:46:42,660 --> 00:46:46,820 What I do know for a fact is that again more Safic loving for 819 00:46:46,820 --> 00:46:49,780 me but that's not my story to tell in this episode. 820 00:46:50,140 --> 00:46:52,020 But what I did find was interesting. 821 00:46:52,020 --> 00:46:57,260 So James Morandini and I'm fight butcher's name James Morandini 822 00:46:57,260 --> 00:47:01,280 he's the Australian. Psychologists and his colleagues 823 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,440 said that it's not just the case to bisexual men. 824 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,160 They said most often we've gotten over the homophobia that 825 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,600 we've been raised on, but we've shifted to instead to binary 826 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,040 thinking. That is, you're either straight 827 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,520 or gay. In a phenomenon known as 828 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,200 bisexual erasure. As we talked about earlier, men 829 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,240 who are attracted to both males and females are essentially 830 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:25,610 invisible. In a culture that labels 831 00:47:25,610 --> 00:47:28,970 everyone as gay and straight. So furthermore, they did a 832 00:47:28,970 --> 00:47:32,890 research of 70 participants to determine the sexual identities 833 00:47:32,930 --> 00:47:37,050 of 60 men on recording solely on their voice okay. 834 00:47:37,170 --> 00:47:40,890 Of those recordings, 20 were gay, 20 were by 20 were 835 00:47:40,890 --> 00:47:44,690 straight, and while the subjects could correctly categorize the 836 00:47:44,690 --> 00:47:49,250 sexual orientation of the gay or the gay or straight speakers at 837 00:47:49,250 --> 00:47:52,310 rates greater than chance. The same wasn't as true for the 838 00:47:52,310 --> 00:47:57,990 samples of the bisexual voices. So Long story short, listeners 839 00:47:58,030 --> 00:48:02,510 judge the Bye Guys as being the most masculine of all voices. 840 00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:05,790 What you have to admit is pretty funny because again, when you 841 00:48:05,790 --> 00:48:09,430 think of bisexual man, we don't think masculinity as the 842 00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:11,150 portrayal as we were talking about. 843 00:48:11,310 --> 00:48:14,430 So the fact that they were saying that the most bisexual 844 00:48:14,430 --> 00:48:17,830 men that they did find in the study were the ones who were the 845 00:48:17,830 --> 00:48:23,080 most mask presenting. Maybe, maybe, just maybe, that's 846 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,080 just a proven point of just the 70 people in Australia that took 847 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,800 this course can carry on to a bigger pool here in America to 848 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,320 say no. You cannot judge a person based 849 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,880 off of their voice, listen to their experiences. 850 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,040 Can you can you tell me right now, does my voice sound 851 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,080 bisexual to you? Please tell me. 852 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,280 Let me tell you right now, this is probably the most bisexual 853 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,360 voice you've ever heard in your entire life. 854 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:59,640 I'm not even going to follow up on that because listen again, 855 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,200 no, we cannot tell somebody's sexuality. 856 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,240 Because if that's the case, y'all motherfuckers have been 857 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:06,000 getting it wrong for years about me. 858 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,960 Oh. That's fantastic. 859 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,480 Thank you so much for having me today. 860 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:14,960 This has been, this has been a total blast. 861 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,480 I'm telling you, you know, yes, I had to end it on that story 862 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,580 because. Could not believe that a 863 00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:24,300 bisexual study was trying to be put out there to say we could 864 00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:27,340 tell by just by the sound of their voice. 865 00:49:28,180 --> 00:49:30,300 Greg. We could tell by the sound of 866 00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:32,700 their voice. By the sound of their voice. 867 00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:37,180 With that said, Greg, thank you so much. 868 00:49:37,180 --> 00:49:39,980 Thank you so much for going all over the spectrum because again, 869 00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:43,820 that's what sexuality is, That's what bisexuality is all over the 870 00:49:43,820 --> 00:49:46,300 spectrum. It's neither here nor there. 871 00:49:46,300 --> 00:49:48,460 Your journey is not someone else's journey. 872 00:49:48,860 --> 00:49:50,260 And that's what makes it beautiful. 873 00:49:50,540 --> 00:49:53,380 It makes it a beautiful, bisexual, solid, if you will, 874 00:49:53,580 --> 00:50:00,540 toss it up in the air. With that, it's kind of a buy 875 00:50:00,540 --> 00:50:01,940 soup. It's all fluid, you know? 876 00:50:03,140 --> 00:50:09,620 I mean, it is a lot of fluid. Oh my. 877 00:50:10,020 --> 00:50:11,900 God, honestly, I love that this has gone off the rails. 878 00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:12,980 It's half the. Fun No? 879 00:50:12,980 --> 00:50:15,060 That's this is the joy of Sapphire's Airplay. 880 00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:18,340 Very conversational, down to the nitty gritty and Greg. 881 00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:20,790 Thank you so much. Where can people get in touch 882 00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:21,990 with you? What is next? 883 00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:26,070 If people are interested in the course that you teach, can 884 00:50:26,070 --> 00:50:27,430 people get in touch with you on that? 885 00:50:28,270 --> 00:50:31,510 Yeah, well, I mean, you can follow me on Instagram and on 886 00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:33,830 TikTok. If you look up Cafe 3G on 887 00:50:33,830 --> 00:50:36,990 TikTok, that's a me. If you look up Cafe under score 888 00:50:36,990 --> 00:50:40,030 3G on Instagram, that's also a me. 889 00:50:40,410 --> 00:50:43,530 And then if you go to YouTube, Cafe 3G is where I post pretty 890 00:50:43,530 --> 00:50:47,210 much all of my alphabet radio stuff and I do a lot of stuff. 891 00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:50,170 It's a lot of different types of content that primarily focuses 892 00:50:50,170 --> 00:50:53,810 on queerness in video games, and queerness just in general. 893 00:50:55,450 --> 00:50:58,450 The course that I teach is in a loney College in Fremont. 894 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,880 It's the the BRDC courses. So if you're interested in 895 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,160 taking some beginning broadcasting courses, hey, 896 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,560 that's I'm the guy that's gonna be teaching those. 897 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,880 I'm also gonna encourage you, the listener, to check out The 898 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,280 Bisexual Manifesto. Go and read it. 899 00:51:13,650 --> 00:51:18,890 There is a ton of fantastic information from 1990 about 900 00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:23,010 bisexuality and about better understanding your own 901 00:51:23,010 --> 00:51:24,730 sexuality. And if you have questions, feel 902 00:51:24,730 --> 00:51:26,250 free to reach out. I'm always available. 903 00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:28,970 My DM's are open. Unless you're creepy, in which 904 00:51:28,970 --> 00:51:34,210 case my DM's are closed. See, listen, not all bye guys 905 00:51:34,210 --> 00:51:37,570 are just grabbing at it, OK? It's not a free for all that you 906 00:51:37,570 --> 00:51:39,850 think. That's not bisexuality. 907 00:51:39,850 --> 00:51:43,090 It's not a free for all. We do have our velvet ropes, OK? 908 00:51:45,130 --> 00:51:49,010 With that said, y'all, thank you so much Greg and ear bites. 909 00:51:49,290 --> 00:51:52,010 I'm taking a week off. Yes your girl is going out of 910 00:51:52,010 --> 00:51:56,090 town. So after this week on May 23rd 911 00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:59,570 there will be a brand new airgasm waiting fresh for you 912 00:51:59,650 --> 00:52:03,690 after I get back from a much needed vacation which in. 913 00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:06,750 We we can all be just honest. It's a fuckation. 914 00:52:06,990 --> 00:52:10,990 That's what it is. But with that said, make sure 915 00:52:10,990 --> 00:52:14,510 you are following me at Ms. Radio, sapphire.com at Ms. Radio 916 00:52:14,510 --> 00:52:18,510 Sapphire and Instagram. That's MSRADIOSAPPHIRE at 917 00:52:18,510 --> 00:52:22,510 Sapphires Earplay. And until next time, safe sex is 918 00:52:22,510 --> 00:52:25,430 the best hot sex. Good night. 919 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,280 That was the show all you sexy motherfuckers out there remember 920 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,560 to follow at Miss Radio Sapphire and Sapphire's Earplay on 921 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,600 Instagram. 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