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Warning, the following program 
is not for the weak-hearted. 

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Those were closed minded when 
General you're scared to learn. 

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What's behind closed. 
Doors here at sapphires are 

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play. 
I want you to pour the wine. 

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Grab somebody that you want to 
hold onto or better yet. 

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Get the vibration stimulated 
through your body. 

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Get ready for one, hell of an 
eargasm in five, four, three, 

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two, one. 
What is up while you sexy 

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motherfuckers out there in 
radioland need you girls I fire 

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back with another. 
Another Dynamic episode, I'm 

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really excited to bring on these
people. 

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I should even say these people, 
this amazing couple that I of 

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course the internet just brings 
people together. 

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You may know them on Instagram 
as sex tech in chill with that 

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end or XO fly. 
Do all on Twitter but you may 

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just know them as Sherry and 
Reuben. 

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So I want to say thank you guys 
for joining the show. 

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I want to talk about, you know, 
fly media Productions, what 

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you're all about because a lot 
of the times I especially love 

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sharing on Instagram, you know, 
your sex wrap-up of the week and

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just everything that you guys do
just the honest conversations 

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that you guys are bringing to 
the table and especially what 

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we're going to talk about today.
I think it's going to hit home 

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for a lot of people especially 
if you're like me, I'm over 

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found I like to say I'm a 
profound Catholic school girl, 

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you know, I did my sin. 
Innings. 

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And now I'm just reaping the 
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Catholicism all around. 
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realize that. 
I was in fact, religious once 

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upon a time in my life and it's 
amazing when you find in King 

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spaces and like-minded 
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So very excited to talk about 
this so welcome Sherry and 

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Ruben, thank you so much has all
the way up. 

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Listen, give credit when it's 
due and y'all are doing it and I

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really just I see what you guys 
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You guys had a really big 
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of months ago when the PornHub 
documentary came out and I loved

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that you guys were able to 
screen cap and share for the 

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folks who kind of got banned 
from Twitter can catch up but 

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like seriously, I love how you 
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conversational. 
You know, anybody that goes to 

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their Instagram and if you don't
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their Instagram right now and 
you'll see what I'm talking 

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about. 
I feel like you guys are really 

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doing something a little bit 
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As far as, you know, bringing 
sex positivity on to social 

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media, especially where, you 
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positivity and self image on 
social media platforms that you 

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guys do. 
So let's get into it. 

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You know, fly media Productions.
How did you guys go from a 

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production company into now, you
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walk us through it. 
Oh, wow. 

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That's okay, yeah. 
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1990s, early 2000s. 
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all that started. 
Our agency out of subsidized 

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housing. 
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know, 20 years later. 
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websites and all of that in 
small business stuff to focusing

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on brand experience. 
Isis in about 2019, we 2018-19, 

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we had been into our own like 
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that, we decided we got so much 
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We said, how can we like take 
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way and make it like a line up 
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So that when we're putting in 
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it benefits the company and then
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personally, and, you know, vice 
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February. 20 2008 was invited to
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in New Orleans. 
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know, beginning of February, the
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first, we were in pandemic land.
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what a way to start of 2012. 
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So so I was on the stage, we had
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the slides in my presentation is
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period at the end. 
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about the, you know, the 
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sexuality agency, World 
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in attendance, they're all like 
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creative digital agencies. 
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some really dope shit and all of
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So like that was the colleagues 
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doing was we were saying hey 
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to not only like do stuff in a 
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Center doing work for pleasure 
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Ends. 
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our mainstream colleagues kind 
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agencies. 
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during my presentation. 
I just said, hey after I get off

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the stage, if you're interested 
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Literally what I was getting off
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there behind stage, waiting for 
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which was, I did not expect it. 
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We got such an amazing response 
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Literally, we took this thing 
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about Cindy gallop, and the 
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it. 
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stuff and polite company that 
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to talk about in polite company,
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bring that to the stage and 
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And I just did it in a way that 
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appropriate for the venue of the
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you know, people have to consent
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So I made it. 
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It was obviously safe for work, 
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Un, because we think the 
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important. 
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think is super important is 
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entertainment, you're super 
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Right? 
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would argue in some ways is even
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taking complex ideas and you 
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or minutes and you're moving 
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way that advertisers and 
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If we can get more of us 
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more like social impact on our 
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with commercial interest. 
But in a way that serves Society

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versus only serves corporate 
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better world and that's 
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trying to do and why our agency 
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like our company's brand value 
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The overarching thing that the 
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Is destigmatize pleasure. 
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what products and projects were 
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But that is just stage 2 is kind
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uncomfortable, that means we 
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That's parody. 
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Okay, we're going all-in. 
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It's like super scary at first. 
It's like so many, like things 

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we step into it's, like, do we 
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Do we not do this? 
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And we better freakin do it, you
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go ahead. 
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making if we're making content 
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uncomfortable. 
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the best conversation starters 
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And I think when it comes to, 
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A lot of times, you know, we see
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porn. 
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taboo word that companies want 
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are making erotic content, but 
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say, don't call it for him. 
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Make Love Not born, but it is 
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Don't call us porn because of 
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connotation that comes with 
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So when you have a company like 
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you know, y'all are on the start
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have these conversations. 
We need to have the word porn 

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present but also redefining what
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100? 
What you just said, like an 

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audience that. 
Okay, a CV. 

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I'll put you right at you, like 
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Facts, facts facts, like 100% 
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that's why destigmatize I think 
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because I don't They're like one
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like pay homage to his, all the 
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work in this space for 20 years 
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flowers, like, you know, we had 
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Give Janet her flowers back. 
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people who haven't necessarily 
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been doing work, and it's like, 
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that and obviously every 
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prerogative, how they want to 
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really want to change. 
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people. 
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you're into hip-hop or not but 
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are. 
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So so okay. 
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The wall but I thought there was
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kingdom. 
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That you all were talking about 
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I'm sitting here during that 
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I was like because I love when 
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style - okay. 
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be a master someday so I was 
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Well, the reason I brought up 
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the whole that can't adjust 
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Oh, you know I'm a backpack rap 
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I'm a con Just wrap up. 
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rapper. 
Nah dude, it's all hip hop. 

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It's all God value. 
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segment it into different things
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not? 
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diversion. 
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like, splitting off because that
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And that's where, like, I want 
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the term pain differently and 
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people who Some real fucked up. 
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And that's why is God, like all 
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And I totally get that. 
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change that narrative. 
I mean, you know, I don't know. 

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Let's dive into that because I 
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you know, you see couples who 
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you know, the pleasure business 
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A lot of people just assume 
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fucking on the rag. 
They just they got it in. 

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Act their sex life is intact. 
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were talking about off are as 
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wise, you know, you did bring up
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who are even in the pleasure 
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know, it's sometimes hard to 
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the relationship yo for you, you
know, and Sheree Walk us through

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that Journey because you guys 
have a very interesting Journey.

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Yes, we very interesting 
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Like, interesting to say the 
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might come before the show. 
You missed a really good 

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myself to you guys, especially, 
it's like y'all left a very big.

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Impactful Church. 
Oh hell yes we did and and 

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depending on how you how you 
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what's it called. 
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sometimes it's the nuance and 
it's like splitting hairs. 

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But yeah, we left the Jehovah 
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You want to start telling it or 
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You're on. 
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born into it. 
I was real young when my parents

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It was born into it were, but my
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Southern Baptist and share. 
What's the other one? 

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Seventh-Day Adventists. 
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of similarity, but they have a 
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amount of control over 
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the point where like, you know 
like for me I hadn't masturbated

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or only a couple of times and 
every time I was wracked with 

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guilt so I would like avoid it 
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anytime I looked at anything 
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on feel so guilty and it's like,
it takes this part of you and it

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So, for the longest time, I 
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because of the way they frame it
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becomes like your sinful, you're
staying, you're all these other,

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you know, in Peoria. 
All of it is bad like sex before

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marriage full. 
And around before marriage, it's

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all bad and we'll get you in 
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And then, once you are married, 
they still control and what you 

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do and don't do in your home and
in your bedroom and your 

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relationship to the point where,
if, if people find out, even if 

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you masturbating or watching 
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if you tell on yourself, because
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people to do that, too. 
Hmm, then you're in serious 

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trouble. 
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they have, you believe that it's
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relationship. 
So that's where I was like, that

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was my mindset. 
I grew up in this believing. 

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This my mother was very much 
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So I became the same way and it 
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It's awful limits, it's bad and 
it's going to ruin us. 

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It's dangerous as hell. 
So we know that where we started

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so many guys, when you guys met 
it, You guys were active in the 

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gym where we met at a big Bible 
convention. 

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That's actually where we met 
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You all look so wild because I 
could never imagine it today 

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because it's like, but that's 
reality. 

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It's so crazy to me because 
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how hard normalizing sexuality 
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you know, you guys are coming 
from a background where like you

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just say even the just the 
thought of sex, you're getting 

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reprimanded for it. 
So how do you go from? 

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You know, this repressed state 
of marriage, repressed, seed of 

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life, you know, in a church in a
Colts, whatever you want to call

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it in and, you know, 
mind-controlling organization to

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we're going to be in our 
natural. 

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I mean, we're going to be free 
Unapologetic, not give a fuck. 

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And, you know, help others find 
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Where did that transition? 
Where did that wake up? 

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Call come come from that 
wake-up. 

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Call, it takes his mind and body
woke him up first. 

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Yeah, yeah, my. 
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Like you can in the late 90s, we
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just so happened that while we 
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The church went really hard, 
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And they got really anti-sex and
it triggered a lot of guilt and 

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kind of put the quash on that. 
But at the end of the day I 

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couldn't you can only suppress 
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the point where I was so sure I 
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Like legit internally just all 
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So I started exploring when I 
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actually to fix myself. 
It was to like figure out. 

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Why am I so sexual? 
Because they would tell me you 

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care about sex too much. 
You need to stop caring about 

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sex so much. 
So I started exploring what the 

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thing that I did was I did the 
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They don't want you to do and I 
started going out and looking at

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mainstream respected resources 
and that's a No-No within the 

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org. 
They only really want you to 

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look at their literature so that
you're only getting their 

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messages. 
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anthropology science-based stuff
about sexuality, you know, 

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psychology.com, I went 
everywhere and And really, it 

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started to fix myself to like if
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like why I like sex so much why 
I'm so into all the stuff that I

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can fix it and turn it off. 
Well, you know, doing all that? 

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I figured out. 
I came to realization. 

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No, I'm not broken Riley in a 
really fucked-up group that I 

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have to get out of. 
And then I'll be able to 

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Blossom. 
Wow, wow. 

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I'm just like there's so many 
questions and Sherry I want to 

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direct this question to you as a
woman, you know, especially as 

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much as we get shunned for just 
being a woman as far as 

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exploring and Just standing in 
our own and our own ground 

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because I'm not to in tune with 
Jehovah's Witness other than 

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they are extremely annoying. 
When I'm trying to work and I 

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have to literally turn my porn 
sound work higher so that they 

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don't come to the fucking whore.
That's a good strategy right 

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there. 
Just put it on full blast to get

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him out of my you know vicinity 
but it's like as a female you 

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know, walking into this 
organization. 

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Ization. 
And then leaving eventually this

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organization, would you say a 
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Kind of hurt as far as, you 
know, living in society as we 

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have been seeing right now that 
our bodies are not technically 

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our bodies, then you're in an 
organization. 

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That's also saying your body is 
not your body. 

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When did your body become your 
body when it was forced to like 

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honestly, like we Had been out 
for what, like, seven, eight 

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years, and he and meet the whole
time. 

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He's figuring his self out and 
learning all this stuff, but my 

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way of coping was to 
disassociate and to like just 

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shut it all off, which obviously
caused a shit ton of conflict 

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for us. 
So it eventually got to a point 

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where he was like I need more. 
So let's have this conversation 

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and it was a point where we were
ready to like break up because 

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he wanted needed more, and I was
just like this is impossible, I 

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can't do this and somehow I 
still couldn't like Like undo, 

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what I was raised to believe. 
I couldn't like flip the switch 

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in my brain or in my body to 
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I was too petrified of the 
opposite. 

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I was petrified that all that 
was true. 

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So I just disassociated and 
turned all of that off within 

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myself. 
So I was just like a cold gel 

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for a long time. 
Wow. 

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And it into where he was like I 
need more from us and for me and

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so I was at the point where it 
was like, what It's the worse. 

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It's going to happen. 
It's already here. 

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It's right here. 
It's right in front of me like 

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this conversation. 
Is it? 

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So we both like Hunter agreed 
that we were going to. 

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Just start trying new things 
together and exploring new 

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things and learning more about 
all the stuff that we were 

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taught was bad and wrong, and in
testing it for ourselves and 

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that's kind of where it started 
and like, I'm so so glad that he

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kind of came to me with that 
because I wouldn't be were who I

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am today or where I am today. 
Had he not, I probably still be 

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like just totally shut off from 
the world, you know, and it's 

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weird because I was not always 
Like this, when we first dated 

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we were very sensual and 
touchy-feely and love each 

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other. 
I was just about to ask, you 

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know, flirty kinky to. 
Like, I love when people are 

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hurt. 
You wish to wear these overalls,

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we shouldn't have done and I 
didn't feel guilty, like I was 

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the one who felt guilty, like 
someone going to tell and I am 

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so sorry. 
I was I was a dumbass I'm a 100 

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keep it. 
But I was still young and didn't

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really get that constant 
reprimand at that time yet. 

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I want we go. 
Got married. 

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She got, they just dumped on 
your costume. 

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We do believe that part of it is
the fact that it was us together

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the interracial. 
Yeah. 

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Within our organization, I was 
already growing up. 

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I was already treated 
differently because of my look, 

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I don't, I am essential person. 
I'm a curvy girl, I like to show

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my shape, and I wear makeup and 
all that stuff. 

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That was always an issue even 
before meeting Ruben. 

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But when I met Ruben, it was 
like, all of a sudden, the blame

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became like it was And of put on
him that he was making me this 

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way. 
And yeah and then like that I 

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was all of a sudden even more of
a sexual person just by Nature 

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like all of a sudden, nothing 
actually changed. 

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So we got a lot of I don't even 
know what to call it. 

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Like people were always coming 
at us and yeah, criticizing us 

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in. 
They like we get in. 

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We get counseling from the 
leaders for public display of 

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affection like even holding 
hands, like because they what 

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their response was. 
Well, you know, that a lot of 

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people don't like interracial 
relationships. 

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Do you think you're bringing 
shame on God to hold hands in 

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public? 
So they start being said this to

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you. 
I wore the leadership at the 

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church. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
The Lok they're called elders, 

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but it'd be like a deacon or 
write equivalent like a deacon, 

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or a priest depending on your 
Action. 

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But like, yeah, they'd be like, 
well, you know, like like, 

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oftentimes even though we know 
it's wrong to be racist, you 

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know, there's a lot of people in
the community who don't like 

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black and white person being 
together. 

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So, do you think your inflaming 
tensions and bringing shame on 

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God by holding hands with her? 
And throwing it in? 

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Their faces as though like 
holding hands is out there. 

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Fucking up on a bench or 
something like so we just got so

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I think that's one of the 
reasons that happened Sherry 

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Large. 
And so everything I did just got

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automatically was heightened 
more bad, more, sexual, more 

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wrong like, we'd be walking down
the street. 

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We go to the camera so we get 
holding to the bathroom like oh 

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so-and-so saw you and you were 
wearing XYZ and only. 

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Yeah. 
They reported on her constantly 

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like literally. 
We were, it was happening all 

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the time I really became 
agoraphobic because I go. 

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Wow, couldn't stand. 
Like, I felt like I was being 

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watched everywhere. 
I went, I was going to be 

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Reported on and I couldn't do 
anything. 

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Like I literally went to the 
point where I would wear these 

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stupid ass, Winnie, the Pooh 
shirts and oh my God. 

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Jeans. 
And like I tried to downplay all

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of me and it still wasn't 
enough. 

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I still got it. 
And it was like, I didn't know 

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what else to do, but just kind 
of shut down and go like, within

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myself and that was part of it. 
Like, they tried as much as they

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could to get you to desexualize 
yourself because I mean, 

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literally, yeah, yeah, exactly. 
But we had so much dope in this 

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before that too. 
Like I'm like, like we were we 

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were, I don't mean to cut you 
off, I just know. 

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It's like we were so dope 
together and even when we had 

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the challenges, we will always 
man, best friends. 

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It's just, you know, we want you
to period where sex was an issue

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and that was a mad conflict but 
our friendship we were always 

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tight. 
Like, we were legit. 

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Bonnie, and Clyde, like I would 
erode for her to hell and back. 

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I don't like gone anywhere and 
Ben Do you fuck with her? 

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You fuck with me? 
Like, I literally told I told 

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cops that I told a fucking judge
that I'm like, I didn't fucking 

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care who it was like. 
I like I will I will stand and 

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fuck with God, like don't mess 
with her. 

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Cause you mess with her. 
You got a problem with me, you 

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know. 
I'm a crazy motherfucker like 

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like word like yeah, shut it all
down, but it was Ruben coming to

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me and basically saying we have 
to change something and it's got

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to change or this isn't going to
work that I started to like kind

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of come out of that. 
And, uh, no, I don't even know 

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what to call it like, Start to 
open back up to who I actually 

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am and what I actually like and 
I'm interested in and you became

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the the butterfly in the Cocoon 
if you will you know, you yeah. 

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Had to strip everything and I 
mean that's a lot again to 

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unpack because of the fact like 
you said you know you're living 

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in essentially an organization. 
A church that is basically 

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putting so much fear into you 
that you could walk. 

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Walk around. 
Yeah, and live life and we hear 

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this all the time, when people 
leave like religious cults, and 

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organizations that, you know, we
were under watched and I always 

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think like, oh, this is, y'all 
are just kind of drum mattes, 

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you know, dramatizing it and 
it's like the more I've talked 

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to people, it is crazy. 
What an organization will do 

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just to keep you under control. 
Yeah, word. 

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I mean, it, we would go to 
tourists by like Remember one 

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00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:30,000
time we were in Boston, we were 
at, like, Faneuil Hall and we 

447
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,800
were in the some people and 
literally the next week. 

448
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:36,100
The leaders pulled us in the 
back and reported on exactly 

449
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:39,800
what she was wearing when we 
were in Boston and P. 

450
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,900
And then one time we were in 
Providence, we're like at the 

451
00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:45,000
water fire and some people, we 
just ran into some people. 

452
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,500
We knew from another version of 
the church and next year, no, we

453
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:51,700
got called in and they knew 
exactly what she was wearing 

454
00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:55,100
there and someone had complain 
like and that's why I like my 

455
00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:55,800
Sheila. 
J hat. 

456
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:01,700
A reason to be worried about it 
too much, but, like, literally, 

457
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:04,900
this, this is too much. 
And y'all, she's not wearing too

458
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:10,500
much like she's into cleavage, 
you know, anything Ruben would 

459
00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:12,800
get so mad at me because I would
be like this all the time. 

460
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,400
Okay. 
You can see something, like, 

461
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,600
pull your shirt up. 
You, I can't have anything 

462
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,300
because people, and I'm always 
like, I'm the exact opposite. 

463
00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:22,200
I'm like, yo, let your girls 
out, like, I love your titties, 

464
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,500
just let them flow, you know, 
not to be disrespectful. 

465
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:26,800
Sherry. 
I Was gonna say, honey. 

466
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,100
Youyou. 
Got tasteful cleavage right now.

467
00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:31,100
Okay. 
You are a gorgeous. 

468
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,300
You are a gorgeous fucking 
woman. 

469
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,400
As you may know. 
I love the ladies. 

470
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:43,100
I'm learning and processing and 
I'm just like, I feel hyper 

471
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:46,200
visible when I go outside, I 
still do. 

472
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,900
So it's I'm still I'm still 
getting there, you know, but you

473
00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:53,200
know what? 
What, what I'm hearing from this

474
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:59,200
is it helps to have a good 
supportive partnership in your 

475
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,900
relationship because, you know, 
as much as people try to say, 

476
00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:06,000
don't give your entire power to 
your partner. 

477
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,800
Sometimes you do have to give a 
certain power to your partner 

478
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000
because they're going to find 
something and they're going to 

479
00:28:11,008 --> 00:28:14,200
bring out that Jim, you know, I 
feel the same way about my 

480
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,300
partner, actually my group of 
partners because I'm 

481
00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:22,300
polyamorous, you know, when I 
first met my primary, you know, 

482
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,600
my live-in partner. 
I'm still this day, very 

483
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,500
insecure, you know, I go through
a lot of self-deprecation and I 

484
00:28:30,508 --> 00:28:35,500
do Blame A lot of it, you know, 
being in a faith base school, it

485
00:28:35,500 --> 00:28:39,700
wasn't even so much the home 
life because home, I could do 

486
00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:43,100
whatever, but the fact that I 
went to Catholic school for 12 

487
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:47,700
years, I was told what to wear, 
I had to wear my skirt to a 

488
00:28:47,700 --> 00:28:51,400
certain inch degree where I 
would have to, you know, bend on

489
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,600
my knees. 
And if my skirt didn't touch at 

490
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,200
least, Bit of the floor. 
You're a hussy. 

491
00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:02,000
You got detention, you know, I 
couldn't, I couldn't wear, you 

492
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,800
know, my button up shirts 
without you know, buttoning to 

493
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:09,300
one button was too much but it's
like, you know, like you said 

494
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:15,600
it's you have all this guilt, 
these years of trying to unlearn

495
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,400
something. 
And then when you add sex into 

496
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,900
the equation and let's face it, 
I do see a shift going on in the

497
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:24,900
sexual imagery of like who 
exactly is at the hands of 

498
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,100
pleasure. 
I'm glad that we are getting 

499
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:31,700
more, you know, interracial like
good porn not the interracial 

500
00:29:31,700 --> 00:29:34,400
like bad porn. 
Hell yes. 

501
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,900
You know, they say it again, it 
makes me uncomfortable sometimes

502
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:43,300
to unfortunately work for 
certain companies and I'm like, 

503
00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:46,000
are we really putting this shit 
out in 2023? 

504
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:51,100
Like can we please reassess the 
situation at hand like this is 

505
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:56,700
not a loving sexual porn that No
one wants to get off to when 

506
00:29:56,700 --> 00:30:03,500
you're you know, emphasizing and
dehumanizing a black person for 

507
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:06,600
fucking a white person or 
lighter skinned person, you 

508
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,900
know. 
Yes, I'm so happy to hear you 

509
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:10,300
say that hell. 
Yes. 

510
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,300
So, you know, with all that 
said, it's like I am so glad 

511
00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:17,800
that you guys are able to really
like talk about it. 

512
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,600
In really say like, hey, we 
escape this for our own benefit.

513
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,600
And the fact that you were just 
saying that the Hands of your 

514
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,900
own relationship, we're on a 
Fritz because of that that is a 

515
00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:34,400
huge wake-up, call that a lot of
couples go through and it's hard

516
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,000
to be like, hey, we could fix 
this shape, you know. 

517
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,400
I don't like to say couples and 
ultimatums don't happen but that

518
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,000
is an ultimatum that is worth 
fighting for. 

519
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,200
Yeah yeah absolutely. 
I mean that's what it ultimately

520
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,000
was for us as much as it's like 
it's hard for me to want to 

521
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,700
acknowledge it but it is a legit
was like that. 

522
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:58,800
Funny thing is, we had her so 
much and you still hear from 

523
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,200
like a lot of people who are 
Uber, conservative or Uber, 

524
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,100
right, wing porn, ruins 
relationships, formed Nam, and 

525
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:09,200
porn was, like, great for our 
relationship. 

526
00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:12,700
Porn was like, great for opening
up conversation is and getting 

527
00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:14,900
us to be able to feel more 
comfortable. 

528
00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:18,400
Exploring stuff like, porn was 
like, I mean, and I think part 

529
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,700
of it is, you just got to find 
the right stuff and there was a 

530
00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:24,400
lot of the right stuff out 
there, find the right Studios 

531
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,700
and Platforms and all that 
because it's like, porn is not 

532
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:30,200
what? 
Just the one thing. 

533
00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:33,200
And maybe if you're looking at 
like, traditional gay stuff or 

534
00:31:33,208 --> 00:31:37,800
whatever, or that may not be the
good the right fit for you, but 

535
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,600
you got to expand your palate 
because there's a lot of stuff 

536
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,500
out there like, yeah, and find 
it before you take it into the 

537
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:46,000
bedroom like them, ghosts or 
flooring the night that you 

538
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,100
trying to be all like yeah. 
Yeah, if any of your Forte yeah 

539
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:57,000
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We're gonna take a quick sexy, 

540
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541
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559
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560
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561
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,400
Okay. 
We're talking about, you know, 

562
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564
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,900
Sherry just talked about that 
which triggers because here's 

565
00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:23,100
the thing, when you're 
introducing porn into your 

566
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:26,700
relationship, I absolutely. 
Absolutely feel in agree with 

567
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:29,900
you. 
On sampling the merch before you

568
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:33,400
bring it to the partner and 
again there's just so much out 

569
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,400
there, you know, I've talked 
about Dipsy on the show, I've 

570
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,100
now talked about Afterglow and 
those two platforms, they are 

571
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:43,900
redefining by not using the word
porn, but they're, you know, 

572
00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:47,200
redefining erotica and erotica 
for couples. 

573
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,200
Erotica for women for Maine for 
gay people. 

574
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,200
Straight people, pansexual 
non-binary. 

575
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,300
You know, there's so much. 
The fact that there are, you 

576
00:33:56,300 --> 00:34:00,600
know, Kink Representatives out 
there in space has, who were 

577
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,100
also saying like, hey, we don't 
just do videos we host forums 

578
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:09,199
and chats, we hold, you know, 
blogs in live feeds that you 

579
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:13,699
could talk to, you know, some 
experts and that, I think is how

580
00:34:13,699 --> 00:34:17,699
you can introduce your 
relationship to porn or erotica.

581
00:34:17,699 --> 00:34:21,199
If you will, that's part of what
we did at our virtual event. 

582
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:25,800
We had like, we had panels of 
experts We had performers. 

583
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,300
We also try to do a lot to show 
that performers are whole human 

584
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:35,000
beings with more side to them, 
in addition to their sex perform

585
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,199
aside which ain't no no shade at
that. 

586
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,600
Because that's the dope side 
that gets us all connected to 

587
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,100
that person but they have all 
these other cool sides to them. 

588
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:48,199
So that's part of what we did is
I and what our platform we want 

589
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:51,300
to do is we bring people in and 
show you this all these other 

590
00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:56,400
sides to them, get to know this 
because maybe No, you will see 

591
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,500
the performers, the genre and 
yourself in a different way. 

592
00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:02,800
This is not how it's often 
painted. 

593
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,300
It's so easy to paint it with 
broad strokes and say, yo, it's 

594
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:09,900
so negative and this and that, 
and the third, but that's just. 

595
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:12,900
If you don't actually have 
enough awareness about it, then 

596
00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:16,200
there's easy to fall for them 
tropes because it's completely, 

597
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,800
I mean, it's the same way they 
paint, you know, all rappers or 

598
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,900
blah, blah, blah, blah blah. 
Now that just if you're falling 

599
00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:24,800
for that that means you don't 
really know wrap that. 

600
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:27,700
Don't really know hip-hop. 
You're not a legit fan because 

601
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,800
any legit person who understands
the genre to be, like, yo, 

602
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,900
that's some corny shit that 
you're saying, right? 

603
00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:36,000
Yeah. 
You still want a little bit, you

604
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,000
know, you're absolutely 
absolutely. 

605
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,300
Remember, I want to see that 
one. 

606
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,700
I think also what I love about 
these types of platforms is the 

607
00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:05,300
gain, it's like it's real sex 
worry, bring the real sex 

608
00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:07,700
element. 
Like I love seeing something. 

609
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,600
I've talked about this a couple 
months or gosh probably like 

610
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,400
years ago at this point but 
there was a director. 

611
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,200
I was interviewing. 
And one thing I applauded them 

612
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,700
on was the Fact that I thank you
for showing a flaccid penis. 

613
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:33,400
Get fully erect yo and then go 
back to flaccid I'm like that's 

614
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,000
how sex happens y'all like 
that's how the Mechanics Work 

615
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,300
exactly. 
Like I want to see it all. 

616
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:42,200
I want to see you. 
Not be performative. 

617
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,500
Like not all women want to be on
top Sherry. 

618
00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:48,900
I don't know about you girl but 
I can't ride on top to me. 

619
00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:52,200
It's a death sentence to my 
titties, it really is. 

620
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:56,400
It does laughing because I love 
with Gets on top of the aisle 

621
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:02,100
top, or from the bottom. 
I don't see in porn very good at

622
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:03,300
all. 
And I'm always, like, why are 

623
00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:05,500
they hitting what's up in that 
way? 

624
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,800
So it's like, yeah, it's 
different for everybody. 

625
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,200
Always looking for something 
different, I agree. 

626
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,600
I like it but, but not the way 
that you the way they normally 

627
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,600
show it is what I love. 
I just love being underneath her

628
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,600
and enjoying the entire 
experience. 

629
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,600
And then it's like, okay, how I 
cannot suck dick for it 2.5. 

630
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,400
They hours late. 
Exactly, that's not realistic. 

631
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,700
Why are people not using their 
hands as much? 

632
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:55,700
Like, that's like, I love just 
like putting on some porn being 

633
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:58,100
on the couch and just letting my
magic hands. 

634
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:01,900
Go to work and just let him Her 
just I love just like drawn and 

635
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:04,500
out, bringing her to ecstasy 
bringing it back, teasing her, 

636
00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:07,500
making it amazing. 
And then he's like, okay, 

637
00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:10,000
because like, she's a, she can 
have multiple. 

638
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,500
So, I just love being like, Oh 
really. 

639
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:15,300
Let's like, let's, let's explore
this. 

640
00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:18,500
Like, let's just take it all the
way it just keep enjoying pores 

641
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:41,900
right for that wonderful. 
Or even the audio erotica. 

642
00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:44,800
I are like, no, no, I could go a
little louder than them. 

643
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,600
Like we could go a little harder
than. 

644
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:49,300
Yes. 
Yes, I love that. 

645
00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:52,400
I love that. 
I also like, porn on the big TV,

646
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,900
with this, this surround sound. 
I'm like, I want to be immersed 

647
00:38:55,900 --> 00:39:01,500
in the pool. 
Action movie pause going to be 

648
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:04,300
just even more surrounding. 
I love that. 

649
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:05,800
I love that. 
Oh my God. 

650
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:08,100
So what, what point would you 
guys? 

651
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,800
You know, kids? 
Like you said you guys went 

652
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,000
through the faith-based thing, 
at what point did religious 

653
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,100
guilt? 
Leave y'all. 

654
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:20,700
Or does it still linger? 
Because I was looking at an 

655
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:23,000
article I found really 
fascinating. 

656
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,400
I was like, I love, I love a 
good article where they're 

657
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,200
really trying to say, like 
religion, taught me. 

658
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,000
Everything I know about sex and 
Love but also there is a study 

659
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,600
that showed that said came out 
last year in August on the New 

660
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,000
York Post. 
But they basically said people 

661
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,600
with strong religious beliefs 
have higher levels of sexual 

662
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,100
satisfaction and this was done 
on the Journal of sex research 

663
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:51,400
and so they surveyed people from
18 to 59 from various you know 

664
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,100
denominations and I found it 
very interesting because I'm 

665
00:39:55,100 --> 00:40:03,400
like hold up, right? 
Y'all been telling us telling us

666
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,100
for years that if we have sex 
for gonna die that we need to 

667
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:10,200
abstain from all, sexual 
goodness and wellness in the 

668
00:40:10,207 --> 00:40:12,200
world. 
So how the fuck you gonna tell 

669
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,800
me in this study that we have 
the best sex life? 

670
00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:18,200
Yeah, being reprised exactly 
like that. 

671
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,800
That math a method for me? 
It's still with us but I think 

672
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:31,400
it's all it's way. 
Way diminished you like Without 

673
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:45,800
saying maybe 
if it was gone, we also wouldn't

674
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,600
be still on a journey. 
We'd be like, where we want to 

675
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,200
be. 
That's a good point, you know, I

676
00:40:50,207 --> 00:40:52,000
love that. 
Where are you guys at your 

677
00:40:52,008 --> 00:40:54,800
journey right now? 
That is a good question. 

678
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:57,600
Yes, somewhere in the middle. 
You know what? 

679
00:40:57,700 --> 00:40:59,500
Yeah, that's a whole nother 
conversation. 

680
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,600
If you want to have his back, 
I'd love that. 

681
00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:04,000
Yes, I'm already. 
The wheels are turning. 

682
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:06,000
Let me just say this because I 
really want to be back. 

683
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:08,700
No, the wheels are turning 
because like I said, I feel like

684
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:10,300
I can talk to you guys for 
hours. 

685
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:14,100
And again, it's like just to 
even get this little sample, 

686
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:17,200
this little morsel, this little 
Thanksgiving dinner, if you 

687
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,300
will, I'm like, you're really 
feeding my soul right now 

688
00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:23,400
because I love how you are 
really, just, you know, making 

689
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,400
it very clear that I just 
because we left, something 

690
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,200
doesn't mean that it doesn't 
still linger. 

691
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:30,800
And, you know, the Fact that you
all are thriving. 

692
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,200
And I hope, you know, my one of 
my questions was going to be, 

693
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:39,400
you know, have you seen a 
difference of you know, maybe 

694
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,500
others, you know, following in 
your same footsteps and how do 

695
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:46,800
you take those steps to kind of 
ease them onto a journey similar

696
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,400
to y'all's? 
I love that. 

697
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,500
Quote, thank you so much for 
that question. 

698
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,900
I hadn't even thought of that 
and Sherry and brought that up, 

699
00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:56,300
I don't want to steal the answer
from you. 

700
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,100
You'd burn up a while ago, how 
people have actually emailed us 

701
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:03,700
and told us how much they've 
appreciated what we've shared 

702
00:42:03,700 --> 00:42:07,000
we've had and I won't you know 
put nobody Business on blast, 

703
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,400
we've had people reach out and 
say that it's definitely helped 

704
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,100
them and that was one of the 
reasons why we created this 

705
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:16,000
extech and chill because we had 
started with a virtual event in 

706
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,600
2020 as a way to give back to 
sex workers and performers and 

707
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,000
stuff, right. 
As they left out of, they would 

708
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,200
discriminate against to get the 
funding and financial support by

709
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,900
the government. 
So we said, hey and a big part 

710
00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:33,300
of that was sharise idea. 
She's like yo what can we do? 

711
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:36,800
And then I was like, I wanted 
to, I wanted to have a A big-ass

712
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,300
event when she wanted to have an
event. 

713
00:42:38,300 --> 00:42:40,200
I'm like, I'm always taking it 
to them. 

714
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,500
Like, boom. 
Let's turn this thing up to 100.

715
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,800
Let's make this two days and 12 
hours. 

716
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:46,000
Wow! 
Wow. 

717
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:51,600
Anyway, so we after that, we got
a bunch of great response and 

718
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,700
that kind of inspired to sex 
tech and chill because people 

719
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:57,600
are like, yo, we would love to 
see more. 

720
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,200
What you all would curate and 
information you would share 

721
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,200
because we got so much out of 
your event and people were like,

722
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,900
yo and helped our marriage or it
helped me or whatever. 

723
00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:11,100
And that was everything, 
especially because for years 

724
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:14,000
prior I had been going to 
people's doors and like, sharing

725
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,200
the Bible and I'm sure fucking 
up relationships, although I was

726
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,600
trying to help people, I wasn't 
having that impact and to get 

727
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,700
all this feedback from people 
that says I'm actually helping 

728
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:26,300
them. 
Now that was probably the I 

729
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:29,400
somewhat for someone who wants 
to be of service. 

730
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,200
That was fucking huge. 
For me. 

731
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,200
It's also why we started the 
fly. 

732
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,800
Do a science project which is 
yeah, basically Telling all the 

733
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,300
details of the shit that we've 
been through and that it is 

734
00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:43,800
better on the other side. 
And when we hear those stories, 

735
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,500
it makes it easier for us to 
tell the hard Parts because 

736
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:49,100
there's a lot of hard Parts. 
There's a lot of embarrassment 

737
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:52,900
and shame and just nobody wants 
to tell their dirty secrets 

738
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:55,300
especially when everybody thinks
you're just a beautiful great 

739
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:58,300
couple for this is nobody's 
perfect. 

740
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:00,300
You know me. 
No relationship is perfect. 

741
00:44:00,300 --> 00:44:05,800
And that's very much we want to 
like show that in our story that

742
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:09,100
Not perfect, it's not always 
easy. 

743
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,600
There are some really hard 
Parts. 

744
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,500
Some really shitty Parts but 
there's some but the rewarding 

745
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:19,300
stuff is just like so much 
better so much more rewarding. 

746
00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:22,600
Our relationship is better than 
it's ever been and we always 

747
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,100
thought we were like best 
friends now. 

748
00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:27,200
We're just like even more. 
We're best friends who get to 

749
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,200
talk about girls with each other
and get to talk about guys and 

750
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,000
get to talk about all these 
crazy things. 

751
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,300
And I can just tell you all the 
craziest fantasies And you're 

752
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:38,500
like okay word. 
Where are you like? 

753
00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:40,000
And then I'll tell you 
something. 

754
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,700
Wow. 
Do you know I'll be like, yo 

755
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:43,000
you're not reacting you like 
Ruben. 

756
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,500
You've literally told me that 
like, 3700 kabillion times like 

757
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,000
how can you tell me the same 
thing? 

758
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:53,300
I'm like, well, I'm still 
excited here is fluttering for 

759
00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:55,000
y'all. 
Like a literally, I had a feel 

760
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,200
my heart. 
I'm like, damn it, like started 

761
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,100
swelling because I love hearing 
this. 

762
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,200
I love reality is to we went 
from. 

763
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,000
We didn't talk about any of that
stuff. 

764
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,500
Like if you were at all to try 
and share any kind of like 

765
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:13,100
fantasy of anything outside of 
me. 

766
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,700
Yeah, I was this like crazy 
jealous scary-ass person like 

767
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,500
somebody you would not want to 
know, you know what I mean, but 

768
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:25,100
to come from that to hear, 
that's why we do what we do 

769
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:29,500
because it's possible. 
And hopefully other people don't

770
00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:33,200
have to ever experience that if 
they learn young enough, which 

771
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,200
is why we're part of the are 
Yes. 

772
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,600
Porn conversation to because 
really people need to learn this

773
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,800
shit. 
You need to learn as early as we

774
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,100
start questioning things and 
start wanting to know about life

775
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:50,500
and sex and sexuality and all of
that, we need to teach our kids 

776
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,900
and you know age appropriate 
obviously. 

777
00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:57,600
But they need they don't have to
go through this shit that we all

778
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,000
want. 
No. 

779
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,700
I mean imagine if we could have 
avoided a lot of it. 

780
00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:03,000
I mean I can imagine we be right
now. 

781
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,500
That would be really, really 
dope. 

782
00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:08,300
That's what I've always liked. 
To my parents about, especially 

783
00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:12,300
my mom. 
She was a nurse for the new 

784
00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:14,500
earbuds in the, on the chat 
here. 

785
00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:18,100
She was a nurse for almost 40 
years. 

786
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,100
She just retired in November and
she worked mostly in Pediatrics.

787
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:27,600
And so she would deal with a lot
of, you know, women and young 

788
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:32,100
children who were victims of, 
you know, sexual abuse or you 

789
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:34,800
know, dealing with teen 
pregnancies and I was very 

790
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:41,100
fortunate that At various stages
of my childhood, she weighed 

791
00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:45,400
approach the conversation of 
sex, a little bit more in debt a

792
00:46:45,408 --> 00:46:49,100
little bit more differently. 
So it's like I knew my body 

793
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:52,900
parts, you know, by the time I 
was five six by the time I was 

794
00:46:52,900 --> 00:46:55,700
eight. 
It's like I'm looking at her 

795
00:46:55,700 --> 00:46:59,300
medical books. 
Maybe I'm enjoying some 

796
00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:02,900
pleasurable moments looking at 
some pictures of the Kama Sutra 

797
00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:07,000
from her old sexuality books. 
But it was also Never shined. 

798
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,800
You know, if I had a question it
was answered or was answered in 

799
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,900
a way that was age-appropriate. 
And I think parents and even not

800
00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:20,000
even if you are a parent, but if
you have, you know, a child that

801
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,600
you take care of or you work 
with children, I think that all 

802
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,300
these problems surrounding the 
insecurities of sex all the 

803
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:30,400
religious guilt dealing with 
sex. 

804
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,900
You could talk about sex in a 
faith-based community and 

805
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:37,800
Stewart be respectful. 
Of the higher power and I put 

806
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:43,600
that in in quotations because 
when you start cutting off that 

807
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,100
education, that's where the 
rebellious stage happens and 

808
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:50,400
that's why we have the problems 
that we have now, when you start

809
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,300
getting these things, this 100%.
And I think that's where, like, 

810
00:47:54,300 --> 00:47:57,200
I was appreciative with my mom, 
because, like, similar, my mom 

811
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,200
came out of healthcare as well. 
And like he wasn't anti-sex and 

812
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,700
that's where like it was like 
this huge dichotomy at the 

813
00:48:04,700 --> 00:48:08,600
church, it was so rude. 
The right parents weren't like 

814
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,200
that. 
The problem was, we were also 

815
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,200
taught to listen and obey the 
church unconditionally without 

816
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,800
question. 
So, like, it didn't really like 

817
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,500
my parent. 
Like, I remember looking my 

818
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:23,600
dad's big on educational. 
We had all these encyclopedias 

819
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,600
and all of that. 
Like, this is pre internet and 

820
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,900
all, you know, and all that. 
So I used to, I used to love go 

821
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:30,100
to the encyclopedia the same 
way. 

822
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:43,300
Like, what you said, hell yeah. 
It's that contradiction it's 

823
00:48:43,300 --> 00:48:46,000
like they want you to know. 
Yeah. 

824
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:49,700
And they got to do it a certain 
way right on civility to the 

825
00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:50,700
church. 
Yep. 

826
00:48:50,900 --> 00:48:54,300
And then the church is telling 
them you know, how you can how 

827
00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:57,600
you it's so wild because I 
remember like being even like a 

828
00:48:57,607 --> 00:49:00,900
little kid in school and having 
a crush on this girl, she's like

829
00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:04,200
my little girlfriend and my mom 
like, you know, had no problem 

830
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,000
bring me over to her her house. 
Just a little innocent thing and

831
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,200
like hanging on you, cuz you 
just little kids, you literally 

832
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,200
just play right field. 
Playing cars or dolls, or 

833
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,400
whatever you're playing as a 
little kid. 

834
00:49:16,500 --> 00:49:21,000
But then I remember then giving 
like some talks from the stage 

835
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,200
and then all that ended because 
like, you know, they'd say 

836
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,500
something like are you a little 
kids getting together and do 

837
00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:30,300
they have crushes and now you 
can't have an innocent little 

838
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:34,400
crush on another little kid 
because they they're saying it's

839
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,400
wrong. 
And I remember even I'm being a 

840
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,800
little kid going through guilt 
with that be like, oh no, I'm 

841
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,500
bad. 
I've it's just I feel so bad for

842
00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:46,000
that little kid. 
I wish I could go back and say 

843
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,100
yo little homie like you're 
okay, right? 

844
00:49:49,300 --> 00:49:52,100
Feel for you in the situation 
you're in is man. 

845
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:54,700
Fucked up. 
But you you're okay, this you're

846
00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:57,400
not, you know what I mean. 
But you know, it is what it is. 

847
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,100
That's why we're doing what 
we're doing now. 

848
00:49:59,300 --> 00:50:03,100
So that we can kind of be that 
for somebody else and be like 

849
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:05,600
yo, you're good. 
Like I understand, you want to 

850
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:06,900
fuck that. 
Situation. 

851
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,300
But you got two options. 
Like, this doesn't have to be 

852
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:10,800
the only way you get through 
this. 

853
00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:13,300
I love that. 
I love that. 

854
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,000
I think that's like the perfect 
excuse me. 

855
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:20,500
The perfect ending in wrapping, 
you know, because again I love 

856
00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:24,900
how this journey for you guys is
still ever so going, but also 

857
00:50:24,900 --> 00:50:28,200
that it has been evolving, you 
know? 

858
00:50:28,700 --> 00:50:33,700
And it sounds like you guys have
really been in touch with, you 

859
00:50:33,700 --> 00:50:38,500
know, hey, We were, you know, 
we're past all the time but now 

860
00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:41,500
we can look back and say we're 
not repressed anymore and now we

861
00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:45,200
can continue that work for other
people who might be stuck in our

862
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,900
situation, if not worse and 
that's what this is all about. 

863
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,800
This is why I love to bring 
people like yourselves on 

864
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,600
sapphires are playing. 
So people know that they're not,

865
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,300
you know, alone essentially on 
their Journey, wherever that may

866
00:50:58,300 --> 00:50:59,600
be. 
So, it's a bit. 

867
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:00,800
Yeah. 
All right. 

868
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:01,900
I just wanted to put you up 
really quick. 

869
00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:04,700
No, no, please. 
I just wanted to say to that's 

870
00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:06,600
partly why Why we're doing it 
now too? 

871
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,500
While we're still in the middle 
of our journey is because we 

872
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:11,400
know what it's like. 
We feel it. 

873
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,000
It's very raw for us, still a 
lot of it. 

874
00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:17,700
So when we talk about it and we 
share experiences, we have that 

875
00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:21,400
we still carrying that with us. 
So we know what other people are

876
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,800
going through without having 
forgotten because even just in a

877
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,400
few years, we have forgotten 
some of some of the hard parts 

878
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,800
and some of it. 
So in sharing some things as 

879
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,900
we're going through the process 
ourselves, we feel like that's 

880
00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:38,400
more Helpful to other people 
because we can relate more to 

881
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,900
what people are going through. 
Mmm. 

882
00:51:41,900 --> 00:51:47,100
While it's real and raw snaps on
that one because I like see you 

883
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:50,700
soon things like thank you and 
you don't ever have to apologize

884
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:53,700
for cutting me off. 
This is your time to shine and I

885
00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:57,300
want to make sure that people 
like know that and recognize you

886
00:51:57,300 --> 00:52:01,100
all really to the fullest with 
that said, where can people get 

887
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:03,500
in touch with you? 
What's coming up next for you 

888
00:52:03,508 --> 00:52:07,200
know second chill fly Duo like 
what's coming up next for y'all 

889
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:14,000
you can find us on Instagram. 
At x0 fly do or sex tech and 

890
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,000
chill and then she's your girl. 
Sherry J. 

891
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:22,200
Yo, big group, you can find us 
on LinkedIn and what is it? 

892
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:25,200
Yeah, fly. 
Do or fly media Productions and 

893
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,300
on Twitter. 
XO fly. 

894
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:28,800
Do oh yeah. 
Yeah. 

895
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,300
It's all the same and they 
second chill.com. 

896
00:52:31,300 --> 00:52:34,200
Yeah, we just launched the 
website where we're starting to 

897
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,800
share articles and Lauren 
playlist and TV playlist, and 

898
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,500
things like that, too. 
And we do still, I mean the 

899
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:43,900
whole thing started with Want to
have an event, but we want to 

900
00:52:43,908 --> 00:52:48,200
have a very particular pleasure 
Khan and we need money to do it.

901
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,100
So if some if Brands out there 
want to support us, call us, 

902
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:53,700
call us. 
We've got so many. 

903
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,500
We've got a massive vision and 
something new and different that

904
00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:01,900
people haven't seen. 
And people want to get on board.

905
00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:03,700
Let's do it. 
Otherwise we're going to have to

906
00:53:03,700 --> 00:53:08,000
start small. 
Yeah we don't want to know y'all

907
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,400
need to be put on a bigger 
platform because again 

908
00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:14,600
Everything that you are 
encompassing under your 

909
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,100
production under, you know the 
blanket of second chill. 

910
00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:21,300
Again it is a different Journey 
that I'm used to and that's why 

911
00:53:21,300 --> 00:53:26,000
I was like I got to get these 
folks on because There's a 

912
00:53:26,008 --> 00:53:28,400
space. 
There are people like 

913
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,800
yourselves, who are probably 
listening to this right now, and

914
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,700
probably like, Fuck this. 
I'm ending the show right now. 

915
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,200
I got to go talk to them. 
Like, I got to go connect with 

916
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,800
them and find out what they're 
all about. 

917
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,500
So Ruben and Sherry just truly 
truly. 

918
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:42,200
Thank you. 
We're definitely got to get a 

919
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,300
part to a part three of them for
we're gonna have some more 

920
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:48,400
discussion. 
Yes, please we've been wanting 

921
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,300
to actually have this 
conversation for so long that 

922
00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:54,600
it's so much easier when people 
are asking us the questions or 

923
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,000
sending us. 
The question. 

924
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,400
So please do that to we want 
your questions. 

925
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,500
It's so much easier for us to 
tell you what you want to hear. 

926
00:54:02,500 --> 00:54:05,900
Then for us to dig into this big
ass purse. 

927
00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:10,100
That's a hot mess and figure out
what to pull out and share in a 

928
00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:11,800
half an hour or an hour at a 
time. 

929
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:13,300
Yeah. 
If you want to see this on video

930
00:54:13,300 --> 00:54:17,300
to our YouTube is XO fly do and 
then we got the fly to a sex 

931
00:54:17,300 --> 00:54:19,700
project on there. 
It's at five talking to you is 

932
00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:24,400
so dope like like we are such 
fans of you, you don't even know

933
00:54:24,700 --> 00:54:27,600
you just And that's the whole 
time leading up to this. 

934
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,200
I'm like, because I've been re 
listening to like you episodes 

935
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,800
and stuff. 
I'm just like you are the 

936
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,200
perfect person to talk to, like 
this whole industry has been so 

937
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,500
welcoming to us from sunny and 
Ken to Lola and all that. 

938
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,000
And like you just like you just 
continuing this really dope 

939
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,300
Trend like and I just admire I'm
a big fan of you and I know 

940
00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:51,000
like, you know, you're not 
supposed to Fan out which it 

941
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,200
colleagues and stuff that's 
supposed to be homies. 

942
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,500
And I feel like, well, we can be
a little bit of like we just 

943
00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:59,600
very much appreciate you, you 
just roll dope out what you do 

944
00:54:59,900 --> 00:55:02,600
and like we love you, radio 
voice and you just like, you 

945
00:55:02,607 --> 00:55:04,900
know, you just like you like you
know, what's up, sexy 

946
00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:34,000
motherfuckers, I'm like 
Y'all just don't understand. 

947
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,800
Like I needed to hear that 
there's transitions happening 

948
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,700
and it just means a lot and it's
folks like y'all that keep me 

949
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:43,800
going. 
And that's why I was just love 

950
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:48,300
having conversations like this. 
Just good honest conversations. 

951
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:53,700
Unedited, you know, I hate going
and doing interviews and only 20

952
00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:55,300
minutes of that interview is 
used know. 

953
00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:59,500
The whole fucking hour is 
unedited, okay? 

954
00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:01,600
This is the best moments right 
here. 

955
00:56:01,900 --> 00:56:07,000
So again, please check out 
sextet, control.com follow. 

956
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,200
I'm putting in all the links 
where you guys can stay 

957
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,500
connected, but I am just, please
go check out these folks. 

958
00:56:12,700 --> 00:56:16,100
Okay, they are up and coming. 
They are onto something big and 

959
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:18,400
honey. 
I got to say, I got him first. 

960
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:22,400
That's the first before we see 
him anywhere bigger than this. 

961
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,100
Like, fuck that I got him. 
It's Going to continue. 

962
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:31,000
So truly, truly just thank you, 
we appreciate you so much. 

963
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,700
Thank you, really do. 
Thank you. 

964
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:36,900
With that said earbuds safe. 
Sex is the best hot sex of 

965
00:56:36,900 --> 00:56:38,900
course. 
You can reach me at Miz radio, 

966
00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:42,700
Sapphire, Miss radio, syfy.com 
misery or software on Instagram.

967
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:48,300
No Twitter Sapphire zero play on
Instagram and y'all are gonna be

968
00:56:48,300 --> 00:56:52,500
bad but I'm not there will not 
be an episode on June 12 because

969
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:55,200
your girl is going to see the 
love of her life, Janet Jackson.

970
00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:57,700
So with that said, we are taking
a break. 

971
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,600
We're taking a break and coming 
back a little bit later in the 

972
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,300
month of June stronger, better 
than ever bring it on. 

973
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:06,600
You know, some dope, sexy 
motherfuckers like, you know, 

974
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:11,300
Sherry and Ruben. 
And so until the next time, good

975
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:16,700
night that was the show. 
All you sexy motherfuckers out 

976
00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:18,300
there. 
Remember to follow admins, 

977
00:57:18,300 --> 00:57:21,900
radio, Sapphire and sapphires 
are play on Instagram one, Samir

978
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:24,500
guys into the past and future 
make sure to follow on Apple 

979
00:57:24,500 --> 00:57:27,800
podcast. 
Anchor Spotify, iHeartRadio and 

980
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:27,800
all streaming platforms. 
Anchor Spotify, iHeartRadio and 

981
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,400
all streaming platforms.