1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,800 Warning, the following program is not for the weak-hearted 2 00:00:04,300 --> 00:00:07,800 those who are close minded when General, you're scared to learn. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,800 What's behind closed doors here at sapphires are clay. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,800 I want you to pour the wine. Grab somebody that you want to 5 00:00:13,808 --> 00:00:17,700 hold onto or better yet. Get the vibration stimulated 6 00:00:17,700 --> 00:00:19,900 through your body. Get ready for one, hell of an 7 00:00:19,900 --> 00:00:27,000 eargasm in five, four, three, two, one, what is up? 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,800 All you sexy motherfuckers out there in radioland HD girls. 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,200 Sapphire. And first of all, I just want to 10 00:00:32,208 --> 00:00:35,900 open up the show and say happy Mother's Day to all the mamas. 11 00:00:35,900 --> 00:00:40,300 I don't care how you identify. But if you are a motherly figure 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,000 to someone special in your life, happy Mother's Day to you. 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,300 And please, I hope y'all get some peace and some rest and 14 00:00:48,700 --> 00:00:50,300 make those motherfuckers work today. 15 00:00:51,300 --> 00:00:56,000 Today is your day to be catered to and I am so excited to have 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,800 this. Very special guest, some make 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,300 All her Priestess. Some may call her goddess and 18 00:01:04,300 --> 00:01:10,100 some may just call her. Anya, Anya, welcome sapphires 19 00:01:10,100 --> 00:01:13,300 are play. You are part of the sisters 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,300 sanctum. The slut sister sink. 21 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:19,400 Mm, sanctum the Flaming Yoni podcast, which is fucking 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:20,200 amazing. Y'all. 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,700 Y'all have only been around for two years and I just killing it. 24 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,400 I'm so, so proud of you with you and what, you know, mistress 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,500 Carly. It have just done for the 26 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:34,200 community episode. After episode I know that you 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,500 guys we're doing some motherhood taking on your episodes as well. 28 00:01:38,700 --> 00:01:41,200 Yes I highly suggest that you guys go check out. 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,400 I'm actually trying to play catch-up. 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:48,200 I'm about to three weeks behind so now I'm like okay gotta get 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,900 to it because there's just a lot of shit that I've been missing 32 00:01:50,900 --> 00:01:53,200 out and some of them I might have to steal some of those 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,400 guests because I'm just like, just fucking phenomenal, I love 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,300 it, right. Oh my God, thank you so much, 35 00:01:59,300 --> 00:02:00,600 it's so good. Be here. 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:06,800 When you brought up this concept of talking about motherhood and 37 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:12,100 kink I'm like, yeah, fucking in, I'm in, I'm in because I it just 38 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:16,100 doesn't happen often enough. That we talk about these things 39 00:02:16,100 --> 00:02:20,000 being Blended, obviously, I'm not doing kinky shit in my role 40 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:26,300 as a mother, right? Like clearly keeping a good just 41 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:28,100 letting the audience know they agree. 42 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:29,300 They agree with it. Yeah. 43 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:34,800 Clearly there's always age-appropriate and whatever the 44 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,100 conversation maybe. But I just don't think we think 45 00:02:38,100 --> 00:02:43,000 enough as women as Femmes about how all of these things go 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,200 together to make us who we are. We don't always have to 47 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,700 bifurcate them and put them in these tiny little containers and 48 00:02:48,700 --> 00:02:52,700 never be full and whole and really integrated. 49 00:02:52,700 --> 00:02:55,900 And I hate how, you know the more that I've stepped into this 50 00:02:55,900 --> 00:02:58,800 world of being polyamorous going to swinger parties. 51 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,100 It's like they're all like Lots of moms that are showing up to 52 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:05,000 these swinger parties and I'm not talking about like, you 53 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,400 know, all I got my teens. I, you know, they're doing 54 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,200 god-knows-what. No, I'm talking like mothers who 55 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,900 had just given birth and they're just trying to read claim their 56 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:16,600 sexuality by going to a swingers party by going to Kink events 57 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,800 and just trying to find and get their sexy back. 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,000 But what are we doing? As a society of so-called 59 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,800 Sisterhood? When we're mom, shaming and 60 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:32,300 slut-shaming, these matters, I mean let's just go on and the 61 00:03:32,300 --> 00:03:34,400 record and say there is no bound. 62 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,400 There is no end to how much we can shame Femmes in this world 63 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,200 in the society. So it doesn't matter whether 64 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,600 we're doing it from a king perspective, from a sex 65 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,700 perspective from a mothering perspective. 66 00:03:45,700 --> 00:03:49,000 From any perspective, we pit women against each other. 67 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,200 We say what they can and can't do with their bodies. 68 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,200 We want to be in control of the women in our world. 69 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,700 And I'm just so proud of all the women who Step forward and say 70 00:04:00,700 --> 00:04:06,100 no no I'm not here for that. I am here to reclaim myself. 71 00:04:06,100 --> 00:04:08,500 I'm here to reclaim my wholeness by fullness. 72 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,500 That includes my sexuality. That doesn't preclude me from 73 00:04:11,500 --> 00:04:14,100 being a good mother. It doesn't preclude me from 74 00:04:14,100 --> 00:04:15,800 making other choices about motherhood. 75 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,200 If I choose not to go that route. 76 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,800 But all of it together, I think is, you know, you said, what are 77 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,400 we doing wrong? We're doing so much wrong, but I 78 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,200 also think that the conversation is starting to turn a little 79 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,700 bit, or at least It's opening up more and you see more people 80 00:04:32,700 --> 00:04:36,600 stepping into these spaces and willing to put themselves out 81 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,300 there and say, yes, I am a sexual being. 82 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,000 I am also a mother. I am also a professional. 83 00:04:42,300 --> 00:04:46,200 I am also all of these different things, and I can do it all and 84 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,800 it's not about like, can women have it all? 85 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,700 Like, that's not even what I'm talking about. 86 00:04:50,700 --> 00:04:53,400 Like work and career and family and all of that stuff. 87 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,200 It's about, can I be a whole person? 88 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,600 Can I be a whole be, you know, and we cut That part of our 89 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,100 lives off. So much our sexuality, our our 90 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:09,300 heart, our like, our access to, who we are as a sensual being. 91 00:05:09,900 --> 00:05:14,200 And really, to me the biggest crime when we're doing that, is 92 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,700 that we're cutting off our own life force energy, right? 93 00:05:16,900 --> 00:05:19,800 And so, there's nothing generating inside of us to kind 94 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,200 of keep us moving. Keep us in going and keep us 95 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,700 engaged with our own bodies and knowing what's going on inside 96 00:05:26,700 --> 00:05:29,700 of them and what were feeling and what we want, you know. 97 00:05:29,900 --> 00:05:31,800 Oh, there's there's all sorts of directions. 98 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,200 We could take this, I've been having conversations about 99 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,200 embodiment. There are conversations. 100 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,400 We've been having in the slot sister sanctum. 101 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,900 It's our Discord group around. What do we share with our 102 00:05:41,900 --> 00:05:44,000 children? Do we want to bring them into 103 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,100 our sex positivity? There's so many ways we can go 104 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:50,700 with all this, so I'm excited up and I found it, you know, first 105 00:05:50,700 --> 00:05:53,500 of all, what sparked this conversation is wine? 106 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:56,100 I'm not good. I'm listen. 107 00:05:56,100 --> 00:05:58,900 I was supposed to interview some other woman. 108 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:04,000 Unexpectedly, you know, things change within, you know, topics 109 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,900 in scheduling and whatnot. And we were going to talk about 110 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:12,500 just the censorship of being a sex positive woman on social 111 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:15,000 media. But this can also tie into 112 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,400 motherhood because we have been seeing an influx of women who 113 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,900 are mothers reclaiming, their sexuality reclaiming, their slut 114 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:29,700 uality through podcasting, one particular, we've all those are 115 00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:32,900 Woods who are familiar with good moms bad choices. 116 00:06:33,100 --> 00:06:39,000 They are a phenomenal podcast that has now been getting so 117 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,500 much recognition this week. I don't know if it's because of 118 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:44,500 Mother's Day or the fact that they just dropped a book. 119 00:06:44,700 --> 00:06:49,800 Just recently, I want to say just on Tuesday of last week, 120 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,500 leading up to you mother saying going to very motherly type talk 121 00:06:54,500 --> 00:06:57,200 shows like to do. They show and all that. 122 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,700 And talking about, you know, being Mom. 123 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,400 Who smoke weed, who have promiscuous sex, but all the 124 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:09,800 while being mothers, you know. So it's funny how now in 2023, 125 00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:14,200 we're seeing more mom's talking about micro dosing talking about 126 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,800 going to swinger parties and then we have this other group, 127 00:07:17,900 --> 00:07:20,400 you know, because we're having the Battle of our ovaries. 128 00:07:20,500 --> 00:07:24,800 Every so often in the news, you know, you have these women who 129 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,300 are making these policies against our bodies saying. 130 00:07:27,300 --> 00:07:29,600 Well, that's not what a mother does. 131 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,400 Well, What the fuck does a mom do? 132 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:35,800 What Mom does in in 2023? Just stay at home and Nick and 133 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,100 wait for the husband to get home from A Hard Day's Work. 134 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:41,400 I'm sorry. But we need to treat our moms 135 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,500 with the little bit more respect. 136 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:46,100 As far as the pay grade. I am full heartedly. 137 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,700 Supportive of saying that women who work from home, you know. 138 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:54,600 I think that being a mom is a full-time job. 139 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,400 It never stops, you know, on top of whatever you do. 140 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,800 But I've also feel that stay-at-home moms deserve a pain 141 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,400 time. I think, if you are a 142 00:08:03,407 --> 00:08:07,200 stay-at-home mom, you definitely deserve to get some money being 143 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,600 paid for what you do day in and day out. 144 00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:15,200 Being the chauffeur being the chef being the housekeeper, I 145 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,900 mean shape. All the things things and I'm 146 00:08:18,900 --> 00:08:22,400 not even a mother, but it's like, I've been raised around 147 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:24,400 very powerful women in my family. 148 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:29,000 My mom just retired back in November as many of, you know, 149 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,900 from being a nurse, for over 45 years in both Pediatrics and 150 00:08:32,900 --> 00:08:36,600 postpartum, she's an only child for me. 151 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,700 My mom and dad are still very much together, but my mom did a 152 00:08:40,700 --> 00:08:44,400 lot especially when my dad was going out of town and traveling. 153 00:08:44,700 --> 00:08:47,900 You know, my mom was the home base but then Would also have to 154 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,100 be someone else's mom and on the nurses home, Friday. 155 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,400 Yeah. Where are the athletes being 156 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,400 done for the moms to wear day in and day out sacrificing 157 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,600 themselves? And we're not talking about it 158 00:08:58,900 --> 00:09:02,600 and then for moms that want to find this release in micro 159 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,000 dosing and free sex and free love, why are we not supporting 160 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,500 them? I hear you wholeheartedly. 161 00:09:11,100 --> 00:09:14,600 You know, when I remember a conversation that came up when 162 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,000 my son was a baby and it was It was it was another generation of 163 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,700 women, you know, kind of making some judgment about the fact 164 00:09:21,700 --> 00:09:25,500 that I was choosing to have a career as well as being a mother 165 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,700 right? And the comment that was made to 166 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:32,600 me is it's just so sad that he's not going to grow up. 167 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,000 Knowing what it's like to have a mother who is caring for him day 168 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,400 in and day out. And I was like, oh, that, that 169 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,200 that's the Assumption. So, if I choose to have a 170 00:09:43,208 --> 00:09:46,800 career, I don't care about my child day in and day out. 171 00:09:46,900 --> 00:09:49,500 Out. And if I choose to stay home, 172 00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:52,000 then there's other judgments that come on of that, right? 173 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,600 Like, there's lack of recognition, lack of everything 174 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,200 that's happening. And so my face right now, I'm 175 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:04,600 just like go and provide for your damn child, but someone's 176 00:10:04,700 --> 00:10:07,000 condescending. You saying you're not providing 177 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,200 for your child because you're not fucking there, right? 178 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,000 It's I mean, this is what we're talking about and I don't, I 179 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,500 don't want to say we're in a war against women in this world, but 180 00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:18,500 come on. I mean, in a little way we are 181 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:22,100 because women are damned no matter what they do. 182 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,500 And so if we are choosing to take care of ourselves in 183 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:28,100 whatever way that looks like, I mean, I'm microdose, look, I've 184 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:31,200 got a freaking jar of capsules right here. 185 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:34,000 You know, I should have worn my mushroom sweatshirt. 186 00:10:34,500 --> 00:10:37,000 So you know I'm taking my care of myself that way. 187 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Did I have a time this after Earth and afternoon? 188 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,800 This past week, I did a big self-care afternoon and I 189 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,400 allowed myself to receive Pleasure. 190 00:10:47,500 --> 00:10:49,900 I allowed myself to receive a massage. 191 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:55,300 I allowed myself to microdose. I had time for myself because 192 00:10:55,300 --> 00:10:57,500 that is what makes me a better mother, right? 193 00:10:57,700 --> 00:11:01,300 And every individual gets to choose for themselves, what that 194 00:11:01,300 --> 00:11:05,100 looks like and there's always going to be judgment waiting for 195 00:11:05,100 --> 00:11:06,600 you. No matter what your fucking 196 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,700 choice is. You know what's interesting too, 197 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:12,500 that I found out with that. It's only been 13 years since 198 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:16,700 2010, that the American Psychiatric association declared 199 00:11:16,700 --> 00:11:20,700 that That is just them as well as BDSM is a wide umbrella for 200 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,500 of course, you know, bondage and discipline but also that it's no 201 00:11:24,500 --> 00:11:29,900 longer to be a pathology and even further that before 2010 202 00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:35,900 parents who were open about their kinky lifestyle were 203 00:11:35,900 --> 00:11:39,300 susceptible in losing their jobs, let alone custody of their 204 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:43,800 own children. Absolutely, absolutely. 205 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,700 I mean look, is Priestess Anya my Real name. 206 00:11:48,700 --> 00:11:53,700 No, no. Am I afraid that this part of me 207 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,200 that I am as a whole individual in being could disrupt my 208 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,900 child's life? If people know who I really am, 209 00:12:00,900 --> 00:12:05,300 could it impact my professional career and licensure if people 210 00:12:05,300 --> 00:12:07,000 found out? Sure. 211 00:12:07,300 --> 00:12:10,900 So we have to protect some of these things because regardless 212 00:12:10,900 --> 00:12:14,800 of whether the fact that BDSM is no longer considered a psychosis 213 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:20,500 or something, Line the fuck like in the fact that doesn't mean 214 00:12:20,700 --> 00:12:23,700 the judgments not. There doesn't mean the safety 215 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:27,300 exists for you just because you're not labeled or 216 00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:30,300 pathologized in a particular way, right? 217 00:12:30,300 --> 00:12:33,800 And so we continue to have to protect who we are. 218 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,400 We have to continue to protect our children from the ways that 219 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,600 they will be judged and ridiculed and whatever. 220 00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:45,600 You know, I was, I was at a little gathering last night of 221 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,300 girlfriends and afterwards. I left to go pick my son up and 222 00:12:49,300 --> 00:12:54,300 I constantly Megan am walking this line of like, okay, you 223 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:57,800 know, this is the identity of me as mother as professional as 224 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,100 whatever. This is the identity of me as 225 00:13:01,100 --> 00:13:06,000 Anya, working within the sex positive space, all of that, who 226 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,100 do I allow it? Who is safe? 227 00:13:08,300 --> 00:13:11,700 Who can I talk about it with while I ended up picking my son 228 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:13,500 up? I was in a room full of three 229 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:16,200 other mothers and one of them knows me pretty well. 230 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,800 And has Access to that aspect of my life. 231 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:24,000 And the conversation comes up around sexuality and she looks 232 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,500 at me and she says, it's time. Wow. 233 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:32,400 And I was like, oh okay, well and I launched into talking 234 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,700 about the fact that I have this podcast and that I do sex 235 00:13:35,700 --> 00:13:39,700 coaching and these other two women put their phones out in 236 00:13:39,700 --> 00:13:42,100 front of my face and said, like I want your phone number, I want 237 00:13:42,100 --> 00:13:44,000 a podcast. I want to know, and I want to 238 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,400 join and I want to start talking about this. 239 00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:52,600 Because we have to be willing in safe spaces, to be able to have 240 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,800 these conversations and extend the table more because whilst 241 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,200 let sisters might be attracting a lot of people who are more 242 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,400 comfortable acknowledging, the fact that they're in more of a 243 00:14:03,408 --> 00:14:07,100 non-normative space whether it be BDSM or Kink or lifestyle or 244 00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:10,500 whatever, you know we might have a lot more women there. 245 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:15,900 But there are so many many many, many other women, many more like 246 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:20,700 per capita At home wishing that they had an outlet or release or 247 00:14:20,700 --> 00:14:24,300 something like that. And so Bridging the Gap between 248 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,400 all of the communities that are trying all the things and the 249 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,800 people who wish they could, but are sitting on the sidelines and 250 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,000 don't know their access point. I don't know, that's kind of 251 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,700 where I'm at right now, trying to bridge all of this and bring 252 00:14:36,700 --> 00:14:39,300 them more into the fold and normalize what it is. 253 00:14:39,300 --> 00:14:42,400 They're experiencing even if they don't want to go to 254 00:14:42,500 --> 00:14:46,100 non-monogamy, I don't care. Like, do you Riot? 255 00:14:46,100 --> 00:14:49,100 But also Also, your pleasure still matters? 256 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:53,900 Do you think that a lot of it stems from the fact of look at 257 00:14:53,900 --> 00:14:58,200 the generation before us. I mean I don't want to ask your 258 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,400 age but I excuse me but I'm very open about my age. 259 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:04,100 Okay. So you know how old are you on? 260 00:15:04,900 --> 00:15:06,500 I'm 46. Okay. 261 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:10,200 So you are in that pre-post baby. 262 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,100 Boomer era. I'm 34 post post. 263 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:16,600 Yeah. And so you were raised what it 264 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,700 was. See, 70s, I was born in 76. 265 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:26,300 So in a very transitional part of America, where, you know, the 266 00:15:26,500 --> 00:15:30,300 hip see the hippie movement was already on its way out disco and 267 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:33,600 drugs are at a heightened, you know sense. 268 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:39,400 But also, the women's Liberation movement is just about ending. 269 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,200 You are in that you were in boarding that transitional 270 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,800 period. We're in America Roe v-- Wade, 271 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,400 wasn't even really Lee a thought, right? 272 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,700 And then you have this mindset of women who were stemming from 273 00:15:53,900 --> 00:16:00,700 the post-war of WWII into 1950s, housewife mentality, where it's 274 00:16:00,700 --> 00:16:03,500 like. Okay, women barely in the 70s 275 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:08,000 were even allowed to like be seen as acceptable to go into 276 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,400 the workplace and have a full-blown career. 277 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,900 We still get that judgment but think about what it was like for 278 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:16,500 your parents. Your mother, a grandmother 279 00:16:16,900 --> 00:16:21,100 During that transitional period where even barely a try to get a 280 00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:24,100 fucking had two choices. And if they were going to work 281 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:26,100 outside the home, do you want to be a teacher or you want to be a 282 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:28,500 nurse? That's what, you might be able 283 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:31,700 to be a bank teller. You could maybe do that to like 284 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,400 or waitress like those are your options, right? 285 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:39,600 I remember in elementary school is in the 1980s when Sandra Day 286 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,800 O'Connor was appointed to the Supreme Court and that was the 287 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,100 day. I decided I was going to become 288 00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:45,400 an attorney. Wow. 289 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,900 Because I I knew like at that time, I didn't know the 290 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:51,500 statistics in law school, but like the number of women coming 291 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:54,400 out of law school back then pretty low, right? 292 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,900 But by the time I graduated law school in 07, there was probably 293 00:16:58,900 --> 00:17:02,500 depending on the year like a fluctuation but usually a little 294 00:17:02,500 --> 00:17:06,099 more like 51 percent women and 49 percent. 295 00:17:06,099 --> 00:17:10,099 Men coming out of law school at that age and and it. 296 00:17:10,099 --> 00:17:14,800 So the pendulum swung so far in that way but the conversation 297 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,200 didn't when I came I talked about this in one of our 298 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,200 episodes and it's still just kind of gets me. 299 00:17:20,700 --> 00:17:24,800 I'm sitting at my desk, I am nine months pregnant, I am 300 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,200 actually nine months and two weeks pregnant and a woman comes 301 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,100 into my office at the law firm and she says to me, I'm going to 302 00:17:31,108 --> 00:17:34,400 go ahead and send you home but just know we're getting ready to 303 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,700 do Mass layoffs, you're safe, but you'll be back in a few 304 00:17:38,700 --> 00:17:41,000 months. I also want to give you some 305 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:46,100 resources that I use when my children get sick because you 306 00:17:46,100 --> 00:17:48,400 don't have to Stay home with them here. 307 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,000 Are some resources that you can use and you can call people in 308 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,500 to come take care of your children at home for you so that 309 00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:57,700 you can still come to work. And I was like, okay, first of 310 00:17:57,700 --> 00:18:00,800 all, you just saved me from getting you know, canned which 311 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,100 is great. I'll take it. 312 00:18:02,100 --> 00:18:06,100 But also now the expectation is get your ass back to work. 313 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,000 Don't stay home with your kid when they're sick, and all of 314 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,000 these things and I'm like, okay, so has the pendulum swung, too 315 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,200 far, like, are we trying to now say that motherhood? 316 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,500 Just For have to have an inconvenience, like it's 317 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:22,500 zoellick choice that and I want to spend time with my child when 318 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:26,900 they're sick and it's caused me all sorts of interesting. 319 00:18:26,900 --> 00:18:30,700 Kind of internal kerfuffle because I'm like, yes, I want 320 00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:33,700 women to have all the opportunities that they deserve. 321 00:18:34,100 --> 00:18:37,900 And also we shouldn't have to turn off our maternal instincts 322 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:42,300 and what makes us who we are. The new women may not care to 323 00:18:42,300 --> 00:18:44,300 stay home with their kids when they're sick, no judgment, you 324 00:18:44,300 --> 00:18:47,500 do you? But if I want to I'm not allowed 325 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:49,500 now because I've chosen this profession. 326 00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:52,800 So I basically just have to act like I have a dick and walk into 327 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,400 work everyday and just like not, you know, like it's not my job 328 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,100 to take care of this child that I just brought into the world. 329 00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:01,500 Like, it's very conflicting, right? 330 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:05,400 Like, you know, like what did feminism do for us? 331 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,900 Well, it did a lot, but it also has done a lot in other ways. 332 00:19:10,100 --> 00:19:13,700 So, like hurt us, I think also, when you throw out and going 333 00:19:13,700 --> 00:19:18,000 into now the kinky side of that, I, when we throw out Feminism, I 334 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,100 feel personally that people abuse the word feminism. 335 00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:26,000 Now, when they use it in sexuality, being a feminist, 336 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,700 does it mean that you respect women? 337 00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:30,600 Because you don't watch porn. Okay, let's get that out of your 338 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,800 head, too, but also being a feminist means you don't kink 339 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,600 shame, or Mom, shame, those who are exploring their sexuality, 340 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,000 the way that they want to, because I have seen that too. 341 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,200 Don't call yourself a feminist if you are not including all 342 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:50,500 Meaning energy in the spaces including your mother. 343 00:19:51,500 --> 00:19:56,200 Thank you. Yeah so let's get into this at 344 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:02,200 what point or even before we would you say that you were a 345 00:20:02,208 --> 00:20:05,700 kinky person before you stepped into motherhood or has 346 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:10,600 motherhood in fact enhance the kinky side of Anya. 347 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:19,000 Hmm. Well, I would say that the 348 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,900 kinkiness in me was always there, but it was not expressed 349 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:32,700 until I hit my 40s. So for me, that's basically when 350 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,000 my sexual Awakening occurred was as who's probably around the age 351 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:41,200 of like 39, 40, and it was not until well into motherhood. 352 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,700 That that part of me started to Rise and that I recognized it 353 00:20:45,700 --> 00:20:52,300 and was willing to admit that it was there and it was not for it 354 00:20:52,300 --> 00:20:56,100 was not easy to allow and to acknowledge kind of what was 355 00:20:56,100 --> 00:21:00,000 coming in for me at that time. You know, we call it we talk 356 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,800 about sisters and we say that we are sexually, liberated 357 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,400 unchanged and transformed women. And the unchanging piece I would 358 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,800 say was the piece that took the longest and I would say still I 359 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,000 have residual moments. Where I have to work through 360 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:21,100 some of that, but my relationship to myself and kink 361 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,800 and knowing my own desires and pleasure. 362 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:29,300 I would say that it's actually really amped up a lot as my 363 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:33,100 child has like started converging into more of like the 364 00:21:33,100 --> 00:21:35,500 Adolescent agent. Their sexuality is coming 365 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:40,100 online, their identity is coming online because we're able to 366 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:44,900 have conversations that are really Like holding space for 367 00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:47,800 them as they try to figure out who they are and how they 368 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,800 identify and who they like and all of that. 369 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:57,100 And so I would say that seeing them go through their own coming 370 00:21:57,100 --> 00:22:01,600 of age is helping me. Look at myself a little bit more 371 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:06,700 as well, and it's really cool. I was so I was going to ask you 372 00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:10,500 if you feel like a sort of Envy of the world that your children 373 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:16,200 are able to as he is, Pressing their sexuality, the way that 374 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,400 they can. I do? 375 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,300 I I do get. I'm not like upset about it. 376 00:22:21,300 --> 00:22:24,700 I'm just grateful, right? I'm so grateful that they have 377 00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:30,600 the opportunity at this point, in our history of understanding. 378 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,200 That a lot of the things that we talk about are constructs. 379 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:40,100 Yes, we do have biology, we have all of these things and also the 380 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:43,300 inner and the outer are not always the same and they don't 381 00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:47,100 always Match. And so you have a choice, you 382 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:52,600 get to explore who you are and it's not just a given you know, 383 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:58,000 my son came home from first grade and I said, tell me about 384 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,700 tell me about your class. Tell me about your new friends, 385 00:23:00,700 --> 00:23:05,300 everything and he said to me all home, the coolest thing. 386 00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:09,400 Do you remember so-and-so in kindergarten? 387 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,200 And it was two identical twin boys. 388 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,500 Yeah. I do and he goes, mom, their 389 00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:19,300 Greece now and their names are blah and blah. 390 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:24,300 And I was like, no way. That's so cool. 391 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,500 I love. What do you think about that? 392 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:31,100 And he was like, well at one point today they wanted to go to 393 00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:35,900 the girls bathroom and somebody said they couldn't but I don't 394 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:37,500 understand that because they're girls. 395 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:41,000 So why can't they go to the girls bathroom and a month end? 396 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,200 It wasn't even a conversation. All the kids were like Of 397 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,100 course, they're girls my shouldn't go to the girls 398 00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:49,500 bathroom, they're not even worried about it, they are just 399 00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:53,200 honoring, what is for other people and they don't think it's 400 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,200 their business to get in the way of those decisions. 401 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,300 Hey, Florida. Take note of this. 402 00:23:58,300 --> 00:24:01,200 This part right here. Y'all need to listen the fuck 403 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,600 up, Texas. You too. 404 00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:06,400 Y'all need to listen and take this out a lesson because the 405 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,800 end this also comes into all this. 406 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,300 I think, when people talk about Kink, they tend to forget that 407 00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:15,300 this is a Tile. It's not the actions. 408 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,900 It's not jealous. Oh, you're having sex. 409 00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:21,700 No. I think having a kink lifestyle 410 00:24:21,700 --> 00:24:27,400 is that you are taking parts of the BDSM swinger lifestyle 411 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,500 protocol, you know, polyamorous lifestyle, and putting it into 412 00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:33,600 your day-to-day life. That's why it's, you have a 413 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,400 lifestyle. And like you said, no, I'm not. 414 00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:40,400 I'm a key mom, but it's not like I'm showing all my sex toys to 415 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,400 my kid, right? So actually go to Great Lengths 416 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,200 to keep that out of their hand, but has there ever been a point? 417 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,500 Where do the kids have stumbled across something or maybe they 418 00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:56,200 have heard you, you know, recording and they're like, mom, 419 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,600 talking about, like, do you ever like find yourself having to 420 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,000 censor the limitation of how sexually open, you're going to 421 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,500 have chats with your kids? And I find this very interesting 422 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:13,300 when I asked this question to people such like yourself, 423 00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:19,500 Because you are the first person to say yes, to being interviewed 424 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:22,000 to talk about motherhood in their King. 425 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,900 A lot of the other moms that I had asked, they also dressed 426 00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:29,400 like one in particular suggested you, but also they were like, I 427 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,800 love you. I just don't know if I 428 00:25:31,900 --> 00:25:36,100 personally for me if I'm ready to talk about motherhood and 429 00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:39,200 King Olaf. Yeah, I mean I said yes 430 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,100 immediately, but it's because of the conversations I have with my 431 00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:45,300 son all the time. So yes, has it ever been 432 00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:49,900 stumbled upon a lots of like non-existent? 433 00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:53,000 I mean we could talk about this but we're not gonna but like 434 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,700 boundary issues, right? Like we are pretty open here in 435 00:25:56,700 --> 00:26:00,600 this home and we you know walk around sometimes you know like 436 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,600 close yes sure we're covered. But like if it doesn't happen 437 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,500 it's not a big deal and like nobody's worried about it. 438 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,200 Well one time he walks into my bathroom. 439 00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:15,500 Oh and there were an array of Of toys that had just been cleaned 440 00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:20,400 out. And he's like, how many penises 441 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:26,000 do you need? That's a record scratch moment 442 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,100 right there. But seriously mom, how many 443 00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:32,300 pieces do you need? There's different sizes. 444 00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:34,000 There's different widths and leaf. 445 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,500 There's different textures and different. 446 00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:40,800 Oh, I know. So that was pretty funny. 447 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,900 That was a good one and also I was just like So like you don't 448 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:48,200 have to walk into my bathroom unannounced without you know 449 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,800 like without asking first so like there is a separation here 450 00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:54,700 so you don't get that's on me, right? 451 00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:57,800 But like also on him that's so funny that you said that because 452 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,200 my mom is the same way like growing up. 453 00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:04,100 I was, I was a snooper again, only child, you're only left to 454 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,900 the imagination, right? So it's like only children we're 455 00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:11,600 gonna find some Shade. That's why were usually like the 456 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,300 go-to to spy. Why on your significant others? 457 00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:17,500 Like, if I know my friend is dating, somebody honey. 458 00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:21,200 I'm a find out everything about your significant other and tell 459 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,000 you this man, or this woman, or whoever is just not, right, 460 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,400 right. I'ma tell you, because I'm gonna 461 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,100 find some shit. And, as my mom used to say, you 462 00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:31,700 find some shit, you know, you're not gonna like it. 463 00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:34,900 So don't go into my room thinking in a find some shit and 464 00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:38,600 like it, right. That's we have had that 465 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,200 conversation because I'm just, there's not anything I'm ever 466 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,800 going to lie about. I may not like disk Those 467 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,500 anything that's not appropriate for their age by like also you 468 00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:50,100 know, be careful what you ask for because you're gonna get the 469 00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:51,700 truth, you know? Exactly. 470 00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:55,300 So I mean we've gotten to the point where like I have some 471 00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:57,000 psychedelics that are under lock and key. 472 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,800 That goes with me, he does not have it, you know, like I gotta 473 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,800 make sure that he doesn't have access to some of that stuff in 474 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,200 terms of. Yeah, toys and playthings like 475 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,200 those are put away all of that sort of thing. 476 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,700 But we are very open in our conversation. 477 00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:14,700 I will say this. He is aware that I am a 478 00:28:14,708 --> 00:28:19,900 non-monogamous person. He is aware that I work in sex, 479 00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:22,800 positive spaces. He knows about the podcast. 480 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,500 He doesn't know what it's called he doesn't he's blocked for my 481 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:28,100 Instagram and you would never think about Twitter. 482 00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:31,700 I don't think so. Like not I say that that yeah 483 00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:39,600 you know fans just words hold my beer but but I will figure that 484 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,300 out but anyway like they're like there's some things he knows. 485 00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:47,100 Enough and he is cool with it. And I knew that I was coming on 486 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:50,600 the show, so I had to ask him. I just said, hey like does it 487 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,600 bother you that I'm in this space? 488 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,100 Does it? How do you feel about? 489 00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:56,100 And he goes I don't really think about it a lot. 490 00:28:56,300 --> 00:29:00,300 I think I'm probably a lot more sex positive because you are but 491 00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:06,900 don't think about it a lot but my Yeah. 492 00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:09,900 I feel like, yeah, I felt it too. 493 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:12,300 Honestly, it does make a difference. 494 00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:15,800 I know I've said this in mon spaces, and I think you actually 495 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,300 were in the room when I had said this, if how you don't think 496 00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:21,900 Phil? I am that, my mom was a nurse 497 00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:26,400 and that my father, you know, works on computers, which goes 498 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,700 in hand in hand and sex, because I didn't know, you know, I'm a 499 00:29:31,700 --> 00:29:34,300 very precocious person even still in my childhood. 500 00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:36,700 I still just say in my adult. A hood. 501 00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:40,100 But as a child, I mean, the human body always fascinated me. 502 00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:43,900 I knew what masturbation was I was taught at a very young age 503 00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:47,400 that if I do need to touch myself, we don't do it in public 504 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,200 places. We do it in a bathroom. 505 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,200 We do it, you know, in the comfort of your bedroom and you 506 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,900 don't Lao people to come in. You know, I was told at a young 507 00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:58,200 age, don't walk around the house. 508 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,700 Like, I one point, I was a nudist as a baby, but as I 509 00:30:00,708 --> 00:30:05,600 started developing breasts and hair, you know, there was a time 510 00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:08,000 Mom. I have to say you can't be 511 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,500 walking around the house naked anymore, you know, especially 512 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:14,400 when your father's around and it's like, I understand that. 513 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,100 Now, you know, as I've gotten into adulthood, my dad's not a 514 00:30:18,108 --> 00:30:20,900 Peta Tory man, but he's also still amen. 515 00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:25,600 And unfortunately, you know, it can make someone uncomfortable 516 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,800 and my dad was uncomfortable seeing his daughter naked, which 517 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,200 is totally valid. But also, I love the fact that 518 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,100 my parents were very open and honest with the body with 519 00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:39,700 Sexuality throughout my adulthood now seeing their 520 00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:44,600 daughter you know talking about sex openly and you know going 521 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,700 into polyamory becoming bisexual and morally mostly queer. 522 00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:50,900 Yeah. It's a little uncomfortable but 523 00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:54,600 I'm glad that I'm able to have these conversations, even if my 524 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,100 parents don't fully understand, they rather me go out in the 525 00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:01,700 world, educating the masses. And unfortunately, I try to get 526 00:31:01,708 --> 00:31:05,200 my mom on the show and she was like, absolutely not, she's 527 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,000 like, I just She's like, I just don't know. 528 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,400 And I was like, well, Mom, it's gonna be for Mother's Day. 529 00:31:09,408 --> 00:31:12,200 She's like that is too soon of a heads up. 530 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:18,100 No, no, I love you but I don't think we can do this, right? 531 00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:20,100 What's your name is Hannibal? It's hard. 532 00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:26,300 It's hard to talk about your sex life to talk about your 533 00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:31,100 parenting Styles where especially parents are not 100% 534 00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:34,800 fully on board Across America about talking to their kids 535 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,100 about sex. In fact, I found it really 536 00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:41,500 interesting in a New York Post article from 2022. 537 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:45,300 They did a survey, and they were a survey of over 2,000 parents 538 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,800 ages 5 to 18. And they basically just said how 539 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,900 they talk or will they talk to their children's children about 540 00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:56,500 sex? An alarming rate of nearly, what 541 00:31:56,500 --> 00:32:00,300 was it? 21% of these adults said that, 542 00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:04,500 they have no plan to bring it up at all and that they'd rather it 543 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:06,100 go into the hands of someone else. 544 00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:11,500 Let alone they said and I quote and I think this is the death to 545 00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:15,500 Parenting but said I will allow if someone else on social media 546 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,700 to do it for them. Yep. 547 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,900 With that said, Anya and you are part of this space of social 548 00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:26,800 media. How do you feel about that? 549 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,700 Knowing that their appearance and again, 21% may seem Loba 21% 550 00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:35,000 out of 2,000 people. That's an entire city, not an 551 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,900 entire city that's A small town, the town. 552 00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:41,700 I grew up in, there you go. How does that mean? 553 00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:47,000 I feel I feel really sad about it because, you know, I will say 554 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,900 for, you know, all I grew up in a very conservative place and I 555 00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:56,000 can say a lot of things about that and how it has formed 556 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,000 myself and how all of the and shaming I needed to do in my own 557 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,500 sexuality, after my own coming-of-age at 40, which is 558 00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:11,600 not normal. But I think that It it just 559 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,800 makes me really sad that that's what's happening still today 560 00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:20,000 because I remember it being revolutionary for me at age. 561 00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:23,800 I don't know, 13 or 14. When I started my period and my 562 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,200 mom talking to me about sex and just, honestly, being pretty 563 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,800 open with me because I knew that my friends weren't getting that 564 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,900 conversation and here we are. How many years later and I was 565 00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:38,800 on vacation with my girlfriend's a couple weeks ago and Like the 566 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,500 consensus was will let you talk to our kids about sex. 567 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,500 And here's another thing because they know, they know, yeah, 568 00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:49,100 what's the next? The next is that 26 percent said 569 00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:51,100 they would pass the buck to the other parent. 570 00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,200 The male parent which could or could not be a good thing, 571 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,400 couldn't could not keep her things would not be you know, 572 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,900 but also 35% of P of these parents that were surveyed said 573 00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:06,100 that they would leave you know sex education up to the school's 574 00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:10,199 school which is but the It's about the level of sex education 575 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,600 happening in our schools today. I mean don't get me started. 576 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,600 Honestly they sent a curriculum home to me for my for my son's 577 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,000 Middle School, sixth education and I sent it on to one of my 578 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,000 girlfriends. Also a friend of yours, mistress 579 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:31,000 K, and she was like, like we pick apart what's happening in 580 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,400 our schools because it's just so not sufficient, right? 581 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,900 It's you. I want efficient. 582 00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:37,600 Do you find it hard to bring it up? 583 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:46,199 Maybe at those Those PTA meetings in person PTA and 584 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,400 decided my son get sex education at home. 585 00:34:48,699 --> 00:34:51,400 That is just what it is. So we are talking about it here 586 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,100 and I have promised him like Foundry wise like I'm not going 587 00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:58,100 to tell stories about him on social media or publicly because 588 00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:01,400 that's just a boundary we put in place, but he does know about 589 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,300 masturbation and he does know about self pleasure and he does 590 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,400 have, you know, I've given him some things that can help him. 591 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,400 Body a little bit better and things like that. 592 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,400 That are appropriate. That I deem appropriate, but we 593 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,000 are having those conversations here and we even just this week, 594 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,800 we had a conversation about birth control because obviously 595 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,200 he's not talking about taking it, but he was talking about 596 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,300 some friends of his who their parents just kind of like 597 00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:28,300 through birth control at them and just said like don't get 598 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:33,500 pregnant and he was like I'm 14. Like how is this happening right 599 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,300 when I was like well, sex is happening in the population of 600 00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:40,200 Age group. Absolutely. 601 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,600 The fact that you're not having it. 602 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,200 I think that's great. Because let's talk, I'm sex 603 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,600 positive, but it does come with a motions and feelings that you 604 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,300 have to be prepared to receive due process. 605 00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:55,600 To be able to work through and you've got to know when you're 606 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,500 ready for that, you know? And so just because I'm 607 00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:01,200 sex-positive doesn't mean I think my 14 year old should be 608 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,800 out there, having sex makes, you know that's there's a 609 00:36:03,808 --> 00:36:06,100 difference, right? Just because I'm slut, positive 610 00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:08,400 doesn't mean that I think that everybody should be. 611 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,400 Like going out and spreading their trauma everywhere and 612 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,400 trying to heal through like re-traumatizing themselves. 613 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,100 Right? There's so many things that we 614 00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:20,000 could talk about there but no, I am really sad. 615 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,700 That that is where the vast majority of kids are going to be 616 00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:25,800 getting their sex education. Either at school in the 617 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,800 classroom or with their friends. That's where it's going to 618 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,500 happen, which is going to lead them to porn, which I don't have 619 00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:33,600 a problem with porn, but I don't think that's where children 620 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,200 should be getting their sex education. 621 00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:38,400 And it's definitely not going to teach them about how to please. 622 00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:41,300 Himself how to please a partner, it's going to give them all 623 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:45,300 these fake ideas about what pleasure actually looks like or 624 00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:47,100 they're going to be getting it from social media. 625 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,400 And that unfortunately is just the reality and that's what 626 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,800 scares me the most because of the fact that look at the war on 627 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,000 social media, that is happening. Thank you, again, sex positive 628 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,300 people. Oh, okay, gosh. 629 00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:02,300 It's like day in and day out, you know, we know that mistress 630 00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:04,500 K who will be on an episode next week. 631 00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:10,700 Y'all just lost her Instagram. For the third fourth time, and 632 00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:14,400 I'm just like left and right. I've been threatened a few 633 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,200 times, it's like now I'm pulling back, completely and being weary 634 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,500 of the words, I'm putting out, it's like this end. 635 00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:25,200 This episode is called kinky as a kinky like a mother but it's 636 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,900 like if someone going to flag this because we are literally 637 00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:33,400 talking about the education in the, the importance of why you 638 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,900 need to incorporate. If you are, in fact, a leader in 639 00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:39,600 the Kink or sex, positive way. World that you need to prove 640 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,600 this information down to your kids, right? 641 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,900 I mean the answer is probably yes. 642 00:37:44,900 --> 00:37:50,600 Unfortunately I think somehow I have largely i-i've been really 643 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,400 Shadow band pretty badly on Twitter. 644 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,500 Yeah, I don't even put anything risque really out there. 645 00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:58,500 I'm pretty, I'm pretty vanilla on Twitter as far as it goes. 646 00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:02,600 And in terms of Instagram, and Tick-Tock, I'm very vanilla. 647 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,400 And yet I have just this week, I've gotten two strikes on 648 00:38:06,408 --> 00:38:11,100 Tick-Tock and one more and I'm I'm and it was because I posted 649 00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:14,100 we're hosting a sweat, sister event soon, right slutbag 650 00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:16,200 roulette, and we're going to have some content creators on 651 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,900 there. Nobody's going to be naked. 652 00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:20,900 We're not doing anything sexy. We're just talking, it's a 653 00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:23,600 conversation. And the first time it was banned 654 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,400 was because of illegal we were promoting illegal activity. 655 00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:30,800 Well, it's because it had the word Roulette in it and they 656 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,600 said it was promoting gambling and then, which there's 657 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,900 literally no gambling in this and then I peeled it again. 658 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,200 And they said, oh, okay, you're right, it's not gambling but it 659 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,300 is promoting sex, and that's worse. 660 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,800 Make it make sense. And I mean like everybody's like 661 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,900 well why don't we just band together and make our own sex, 662 00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:54,300 social media? We've seen how this happens. 663 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,900 Okay, the minute that a social media Outlet is, you know, 664 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,400 becoming popularized in one way or another, there are companies 665 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,000 that want to buy into it and then they're going to have their 666 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,300 say and say this doesn't make the money so therefore we have 667 00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:12,000 to get rid of it but when you are getting literally Banning 668 00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:16,000 education because that's what the fuck it is. 669 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,800 There's a difference brain. And yes, the only fan girls 670 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,000 selling the pussys on tape talking whatnot. 671 00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:27,100 But when someone is literally showing an anatomy of what a 672 00:39:27,107 --> 00:39:28,900 vulva, fucking water. Yeah. 673 00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:32,200 Right. Any of it, or a penis? 674 00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:36,500 If a man could show his nipples, stop shaming, the mom who was 675 00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:41,500 showing other moms a better way of propping their bosom to feed 676 00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:47,000 their child. Yeah I it is really nice. 677 00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:51,400 Not only is it difficult to kind of get the word out, right? 678 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,300 But it's difficult than to spread. 679 00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:57,200 Well I mean I guess that's one of the same but it's so hard to 680 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,100 spread education and to get people in community with one 681 00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:04,700 another it is which that's really all we are trying to do 682 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,500 and it is just left and right block, block block, and it is 683 00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:15,200 just we're having to like call sex sags, you know, segs and I'm 684 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,500 like, okay, here we go. I feel like I need Fucking 685 00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:20,400 decoder every day of the week because there's a figure out a 686 00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:23,600 new way to say the word. That's not going to get picked 687 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,100 up at Paris. No band. 688 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,200 I ate it. I absolutely hate it. 689 00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:30,200 And again, it brings us back to why. 690 00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:33,600 Why is it such a big fucking deal? 691 00:40:33,700 --> 00:40:38,800 What people do behind closed doors because when we can't 692 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000 control the narrative, we can't control the people. 693 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,000 And when we can't control the people, then our system doesn't 694 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,000 work consumerism and patriarchy. He and all of those things is we 695 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,500 got to control the masses. Absolutely have to keep 696 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,300 everything, you know. Really as we wrap up, have you 697 00:40:57,308 --> 00:41:02,600 heard of a BDSM family dynamic? Or a BDSM family. 698 00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:07,800 I have not. So I hadn't either until last 699 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,500 night, when I was doing some research, and I found this very 700 00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:14,300 interesting, so, of course, a BDSM family Dynamic will consist 701 00:41:14,300 --> 00:41:18,400 of a couple or more people engaging in a BDSM relationship 702 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,900 where they can be open about it, with other family members. 703 00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:24,700 These groups of people will be living together as they engage 704 00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:27,100 in different kinds of relationships structures. 705 00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:30,200 Like Mommy, Daddy master-servant roles. 706 00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:37,000 But on top of that, the couple, May have kids that are wrapped 707 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,200 into it. Of course, as we said, the norm. 708 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,300 If you have a little cage, you should keep it away. 709 00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:44,400 You know, all sex toys away from them. 710 00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:47,200 However, they accidentally find it, you should discuss it with 711 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,900 them and then take it away in this way. 712 00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:52,700 You can make them understand your relationship without hiding 713 00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:54,700 it. Therefore, you can introduce 714 00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:58,900 your BDSM relationship with them without any awkward moments. 715 00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:02,100 This process is also important for them to understand in their 716 00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,000 own personal sex, life and journey. 717 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,200 Ladies and gentlemen, is there a problem with that with 718 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,400 parenting? I don't think so because you are 719 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,600 having, yeah, I have no problem with it and I know that people 720 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,700 will say, like, they will continue to come back and 721 00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:23,000 they'll say like but bts's BDSM like their power dynamics, there 722 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,400 could be, you know, say sadism, masochism in all of the things 723 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,900 like, yes, but age-appropriate and keeping things that are not 724 00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:36,100 for children, not for them. The different than like in a 725 00:42:36,107 --> 00:42:39,800 public you'll when people are having, you know, our family 726 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,000 looks different than other families, there's no problem 727 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,800 with this. We just have to educate our 728 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,400 children age appropriately and then they're coming into the 729 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,800 world with a different awareness. 730 00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:52,500 Right? I have, I have a really good 731 00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:57,000 friend, couple friends, who are in a 24/7 power exchange and 732 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:02,300 their children, know that Daddy calls mommy goddess and that 733 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,900 Mommy is in charge. All the time. 734 00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:08,400 And that that's their Dynamic. That's BDSM Dynamic. 735 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,700 Absolutely that's not broader one. 736 00:43:10,700 --> 00:43:13,100 But like who cares we've lived in communes forever. 737 00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:17,000 We've raised children communally forever like why is this any 738 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,600 different? So yeah I mean I think obviously 739 00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:24,100 with the caveats of like the right education at the right 740 00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:26,700 time when they're developmentally able to have it, 741 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,600 I don't get it. It's none of my business. 742 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,700 Go for it. Do you like I am a woman? 743 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,000 Yeah. I mean honestly I don't see. 744 00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:36,800 Any harm or foul and it's something that I have definitely 745 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,500 talked about with my primary partner Benjamin, you know, we 746 00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:45,100 have entertained the fact that we do want kids and what 747 00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:50,100 polyamory life will look for a, you know, look for us as we may 748 00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:54,000 be Venture into the wharf marriage and babies and all 749 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,100 that, but it's not like we're gonna hide it, we will, you 750 00:43:57,100 --> 00:44:00,900 know, let them know like, Mommy and Daddy love each other very 751 00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:03,900 much, but also mommy has a girlfriend dad. 752 00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:06,700 He has a girlfriend. Who are your aunties? 753 00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:11,700 You may see us kiss, auntie and we all love you, you know? 754 00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:14,800 But we could be fucking on the kitchen table in front of them. 755 00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:18,800 Right. You know, and all that and so be 756 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,900 it. So I love the whole concept of 757 00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:23,600 BDSM family. When I first saw her I was like, 758 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,200 wait, totally because first of all it was a little alarming 759 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,800 that I saw like a little girl holding literally a flogger in 760 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,600 between her mom and dad and I was like, hold up y'all. 761 00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:37,600 Wait a second, this is not Littles. 762 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,200 This is literally a child holding up the flogger. 763 00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:43,800 But then as they explain their like, yes, we are trying to 764 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,900 normalize that. Yes, they may see, they may find 765 00:44:46,900 --> 00:44:50,200 because again no matter how hard you try to hide Christmas 766 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,800 presents, ladies and ladies and gentlemen, your kids are going 767 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,200 to find it, right? And it's no different than like 768 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,200 Mila. I mean, maybe some people might 769 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,600 argue it is I would argue it's not much different than me 770 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,300 letting my child have a sip of wine to see what it tastes like 771 00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:05,400 now. And talking about alcohol 772 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,400 responsibly and the consumption of that sort of thing or when he 773 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,300 knows that I'm going on a plant medicine, ceremony weekend. 774 00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:14,200 And that, yeah, that doesn't mean that I'm, you know, 775 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,600 constantly when you are in my presence and under my charge 776 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,100 doing psychedelics know, right? Like there is a difference and 777 00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:24,200 we can talk about things responsibly and I think that's 778 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,100 what creates our children to be more open-minded and more sex 779 00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:30,000 positive and all of those things 1000%. 780 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:36,300 Yeah and I will say this what I'm curious about Because this 781 00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:38,300 is a conversation that came up in our sanctum. 782 00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:41,200 Somewhat recently one of our members has a daughter who's 783 00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:45,000 pretty old like 17. 18 still living at home and not really 784 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,200 planning to leave the home anytime soon. 785 00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:52,600 And they are really trying to figure out how to continue to be 786 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,000 a little bit more open in their, in their sexual Dynamic with the 787 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,100 daughter under the roof all this time, because she's completely 788 00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:02,300 unaware of all of it, right? So when you start out Children, 789 00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:06,000 very young in these types of whether it be a poly cool, or a 790 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,900 BDSM family, or whatever communal situation you're 791 00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:12,400 talking about the younger, they are the easier it's going to be 792 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,500 for them to have that frame of reference the same way. 793 00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:17,400 My child could come home from first grade and say, hey, there 794 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,200 were boys last year and they're girls this year. 795 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,100 Wow. Like I didn't even know that was 796 00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:24,300 a thing, you know? So when they're very young, it 797 00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:28,000 can be something that kind of grows with them and it's not 798 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,400 something that has to blow their mind at H, like 14 or 15 when 799 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,500 it's got 0 frame of reference for them. 800 00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:38,000 So I do have some curiosity about like, you know, if you 801 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,800 aren't raising your children that way from a very young age, 802 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,300 how do you introduce it to them when they're at a more crucial 803 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,300 adolescent Turning Point? Like could be different, I don't 804 00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:49,900 know. But on the whole I think when 805 00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:53,200 things are done with love and respect and mutuality and 806 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,300 consent and all of those things, I just think there are, there's 807 00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:01,400 pretty much a way to work through anything with children 808 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,500 with other. And it seems to me like, That's 809 00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:07,000 their intent from what you're telling me and it needs to be 810 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,600 something that continuously evolved as the child gets older. 811 00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:15,200 The questions get more mature or immature. 812 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,000 Totally, you know. Absolutely. 813 00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:22,200 I think at various different stages parents, I would only 814 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,500 hope that parents need to understand that we no longer can 815 00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:31,400 just say, I'll tell you when you're older, that's no longer a 816 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,700 resource or a no longer an excuse Because your kids right 817 00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:39,900 have smartphones, I don't know kids who don't have smartphones 818 00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:43,700 at the age of five which is terrible, which is fucking 819 00:47:43,700 --> 00:47:45,600 terrible. Because I'm just like y'all are 820 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,800 just said you are just setting them up for failure but I'm not 821 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,800 a parent. That's just me in my observation 822 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,800 and saltiness because I can get a cell phone. 823 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,200 I didn't get a cell phone until I was in going into high school. 824 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,600 I had just graduated from eighth grade and I remember the first 825 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,100 time I got her cell phone and that thing only He turned on and 826 00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:06,700 I could text. That's it. 827 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,100 Okay, uh-huh. I wasn't my mom and dad said oh 828 00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:11,800 you want an iPhone you got iPhone money. 829 00:48:12,100 --> 00:48:15,100 You got black man. I think it was like iPhone was 830 00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:17,600 just barely a thought. No it's I want a Blackberry. 831 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,800 You got Blackberry money. I want a psychic. 832 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,000 Do you got sidekick money then know as long as we're paying our 833 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,500 plant you're under our plan? Totally that's it. 834 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,800 You know and so I didn't get a smartphone until I was like 835 00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:34,800 He'll graduating from college because I was broke. 836 00:48:35,500 --> 00:48:38,800 Okay, Jake. I was a boring boring person 837 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,500 with my phone's but I'm kind of happy that my parents kind of 838 00:48:43,500 --> 00:48:46,700 limited that and maybe they were, you know, foreshadowing 839 00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:50,500 the things that come, you know, and protecting me about sexting 840 00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:55,800 and, you know, every bit of danger that comes across with 841 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,200 social media now. And I hate to say it, right? 842 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,700 They knew if they knew Yeah. Yeah. 843 00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:07,300 We gotta watch out for our young people for sure. 844 00:49:07,300 --> 00:49:10,700 You know we have we you know as a mother like that's the one 845 00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:13,900 thing that I'm always wanting to make sure that like anything 846 00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:17,800 that I'm bringing into his life. It is something that is either, 847 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,600 you know, additive for him, that is not about me, you know, that 848 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:27,200 it that it's making it so that he is able to learn more openly 849 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,500 about how to navigate all of these things. 850 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,800 I always want to have open lines of communication. 851 00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:37,300 Occation with him and he has asked me for, you know, a couple 852 00:49:37,300 --> 00:49:41,700 of things within the space where I've just said, you know what, I 853 00:49:41,700 --> 00:49:43,300 don't think that's the right age yet. 854 00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:46,800 Like I don't think we're there and I've had like, and I'm I 855 00:49:46,808 --> 00:49:50,200 don't say no often like one of the things that my mom passed 856 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,200 onto me and we just talked about this again recently, she was out 857 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,200 for a visit is that her dad told her? 858 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,100 Say, yes, every chance you get because there's always an 859 00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:02,800 opportunity for no, but like if you don't have to use it, do And 860 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,600 so I kind of operate under that with my, with my kiddo, but 861 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,100 also, like, there are times that I'm, like, I'm not saying, no, 862 00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:12,200 but I am saying that yet. Not now, and there will come 863 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,900 times. I'll say no, like, I'm like that 864 00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:17,700 time. Yeah, I like that approach 865 00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:19,900 didn't. I was going to ask you because a 866 00:50:19,908 --> 00:50:21,700 friend of mine reached out to me. 867 00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:26,200 And it's funny because of literally happened this week and 868 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:31,400 he was just like, I just don't know what to do with my kid. 869 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,900 This Is a step kid. I guess you could say, he has a 870 00:50:34,900 --> 00:50:40,400 baby on the way, like, literally babies dropping any time at this 871 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:47,700 moment, and his girlfriend's son is, I believe he said was 13 or 872 00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:53,800 14, and recently said that he is none nine black non-binary but 873 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:59,000 also you know, identifies as he but he also expressed to my 874 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,600 friend and his girlfriend that he To explore with dresses and 875 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,500 nail polish and all that. He's like, I just feel that I 876 00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:10,600 can't relate with my kid and I don't know what to do, anymore. 877 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,100 What would you say to him right now? 878 00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:16,900 And I know there's probably some parents out there listening that 879 00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:20,200 are probably in the same boat because, again, it's all falling 880 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,000 into Kink motherhood. This is a lifestyle. 881 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,200 Yeah. So, what was your? 882 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,700 Yeah, we give advice for the parents out there. 883 00:51:27,700 --> 00:51:31,600 That might be struggling with the identity of their kids. 884 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,600 I've had some friends reach out to me who have asked me some 885 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,500 similar questions. And I have always said the first 886 00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:42,400 and foremost, the first thing that you can do is make them 887 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,600 feel safe and comfortable and just say, like, first of all, 888 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,000 I'm really proud of you for really like opening up and 889 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,100 talking to me about this because it's not easy, some of these 890 00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:52,200 things are not easy, so thank you. 891 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,200 And I feel really grateful that you can come and talk to me 892 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,100 about this. I can't necessarily say that. 893 00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:02,600 I understand it's not an experience that Have gone 894 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,200 through, but I want to support you and I want to know what that 895 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,700 looks like for you. You know, so how, how can we 896 00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:12,200 help support this in a way that is safe for you and that feels 897 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,100 right for you and you know, really just hearing from them 898 00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:18,100 more, you know, getting more information. 899 00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:20,800 You know do you want to start with this at home? 900 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,800 Do you want to start in the home here? 901 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,900 Like with this, you know type of exploration and curiosity here? 902 00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:28,300 Do you want? Are you wanting to do this at 903 00:52:28,300 --> 00:52:29,600 school? Like an end. 904 00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:31,500 Do you understand what that might come with? 905 00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:32,900 I'm Not telling you, you shouldn't do it. 906 00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:37,100 And no I just want to make sure you understand and that we 907 00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:40,000 talked about how you're going to be able to respond to people if 908 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,900 you end up getting a hard time because some people aren't going 909 00:52:42,900 --> 00:52:47,000 to understand and I don't want you to ever hide who you are. 910 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,100 But I also want you to know that like some of this is going to 911 00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:52,700 have some hard conversations, and we need to make sure we're 912 00:52:52,700 --> 00:52:57,900 talking about those I've sent so many resources to friends who 913 00:52:57,900 --> 00:53:00,800 are having children kind of coming into the conversation 914 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,500 right now around Pro. Owns and around identity, gender 915 00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:07,500 identity, and sexual identity and sexual preference. 916 00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:11,000 You know, when I was in college, it was the really popular thing 917 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,000 to explore whether or not you're like a lesbian or bisexual. 918 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,900 Girl. And now it's happening at 13 and 919 00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:19,600 12 and younger and maybe a little older too. 920 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,700 But like, regardless, like every generation is exploring things 921 00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:27,700 that the generation before did earlier and earlier in. 922 00:53:27,700 --> 00:53:31,000 So just not burying your head in the sand as parents and really 923 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,700 getting curious. With them and saying are you 924 00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:35,400 having these conversations at school? 925 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,400 Like see the conversation with them? 926 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,900 If they're not bringing it home to you because they're learning 927 00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:42,600 about pronouns in elementary school now. 928 00:53:43,100 --> 00:53:46,200 So get curious with them and have the conversations to so 929 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,000 that they're not just hearing it at school. 930 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,100 But yeah, I love that. I love that, that friend of 931 00:53:51,100 --> 00:53:55,000 yours reached out to you to say. I don't exactly know how to 932 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,200 identify with this, I don't know. 933 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,100 And, of course, it's not necessarily going to feel 934 00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:00,600 comfortable. That's not the mark of a good 935 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,900 parent as to whether or not. As comfortable? 936 00:54:03,300 --> 00:54:05,100 It's are you willing to have the conversation? 937 00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:08,000 Are you willing to allow them to be curious and safe with you? 938 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,800 So that they can see how far they can go in the world with 939 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,400 their curiosity and safety to. That was something similar to 940 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,500 what I said to him, because he was even like, man, I wish we 941 00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:19,800 can just go back to the simpler times. 942 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,900 I was like, well, really about anyone simpler for kids, growing 943 00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:26,500 up questioning, I said I was raising my Catholic school 944 00:54:26,500 --> 00:54:30,400 system for 12 years from 1st to 12th grade by choice. 945 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,900 By the way, I was too scared. And about a public school when I 946 00:54:32,908 --> 00:54:37,100 was able to graduate out of Middle School in, eighth, grade 947 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,500 and good would completely new high school and I was like, no, 948 00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:44,700 I'm gonna stick with Catholic Catholicism fucking crazy but 949 00:54:44,700 --> 00:54:47,100 that was, my, that was my comfort, don't, you know, it was 950 00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:50,900 my choice but I also, you know, did grow up a little confused. 951 00:54:51,300 --> 00:54:53,700 You know, why was I getting sexually aroused? 952 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,500 Not just by the music of Janet Jackson, but by her body, you 953 00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:01,700 know, why was I? She's she's a fuck. 954 00:55:05,900 --> 00:55:09,700 I'm so excited but he was just like, you know, growing up you 955 00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:13,100 know, Catholic, I won't you thought anything? 956 00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:17,100 I did in my sexuality kissing, a boy getting fingered. 957 00:55:17,300 --> 00:55:22,600 I literally prayed every single interaction with sex I ever had 958 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,300 up until I got into college. I do. 959 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,500 Yeah, it was praying. I thought I had to marry the 960 00:55:28,500 --> 00:55:31,100 person that I let touch me. Yeah. 961 00:55:32,900 --> 00:55:35,000 It's crazy. And it was funny because I was 962 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,100 also so scared for a girl who was able to ask her parents, 963 00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:42,700 anything about sex, but I was too scared to ask them about my 964 00:55:42,700 --> 00:55:45,800 own sexual experiences until much later. 965 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,200 You know, really I'd I was the same way. 966 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,100 Now you ask me when I got kinky. You did not ask me when I got 967 00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:55,200 horny. Yes, that was a very young age 968 00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:00,500 and I was the first of my peer group having sex and had nobody 969 00:56:00,500 --> 00:56:03,500 to talk to you. Only conservative environment. 970 00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:06,700 I definitely would have been like shunned by my friends and 971 00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:08,000 things like that. And I didn't know what to do 972 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,300 with the emotions because I did I thought I had to marry this 973 00:56:11,300 --> 00:56:15,400 person and I knew I didn't want to you know, so all of that 974 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,300 stuff just like no outlet for it. 975 00:56:17,300 --> 00:56:20,700 But my mom again like to her credit. 976 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,400 You know, she she was able to Intuit like kind of some things 977 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,200 that we're going on and she approached me about it and so I 978 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,700 was really lucky or than most to have somebody. 979 00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:33,900 Would be able to talk to you about that stuff. 980 00:56:34,300 --> 00:56:37,200 Don't fast forward, you know, a good 30 years later. 981 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,800 Does she feel super comfortable with what I'm doing today, dude? 982 00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:44,800 This is Sara Lee Jones to talk about I'm living with no, not 983 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,600 really, but she was a sex, positive figure for me when I 984 00:56:48,607 --> 00:56:52,700 was coming around at that point. And I was I was young and I was, 985 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,800 I was a horny little girl. What we all? 986 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,000 And I think that's why we gravity so much to each other 987 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,600 because I feel like you and I had similar up. 988 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,000 Bringing surrounding sex and exploring our bodies. 989 00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:09,600 Because again, because, you know, I lost my virginity when I 990 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,000 was 16, I'll never forget it. And then, in closing and 991 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:18,700 rapping, I'll never forget it because I lost it on a trip to 992 00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:23,200 Europe. And, and then I went to, I went 993 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:29,100 on a senior Retreat, which we called Kairos, and it broke me 994 00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:32,600 completely. Like, I've returned Turn that 995 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,800 day going to my parents crying mind. 996 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,600 You it's the day before. I'm about to take my SATs on top 997 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,500 of that, and I just cried to them and I was like, I'm not a 998 00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:50,700 virgin. And you know, my dad like had to 999 00:57:50,700 --> 00:57:52,200 leave the room because he was like oh my God. 1000 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,700 Like he'll look at my baby girl right now. 1001 00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:59,100 Like I wasn't ready for this. My mom was just like did you use 1002 00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:03,300 condoms at least? Did you use protection? 1003 00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:10,100 But yeah, I also need to like, I need a minute, it's a lie. 1004 00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:12,700 It's just like, you know, there's never been anything 1005 00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:15,600 subtle in my life about me and God bless my parents because I 1006 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,500 feel like I could have sent them at an Early grave, no matter 1007 00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:21,600 what like when I do things, when I fuck up, I fuck up. 1008 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,200 Majorly in big ways. Phenomenal ways where I'm just 1009 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,300 like God damn how am I still alive? 1010 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,100 But it was nice to know that afterwards after my parents like 1011 00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:35,400 calm down after my dad, had to kind of ignore me. 1012 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,500 Taking me to my ESET on the longest head minute. 1013 00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:46,000 Drive to put it was My dad is never ignoring me and I, my dad 1014 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,900 is like my world. I am such a daddy's girl, my 1015 00:58:47,900 --> 00:58:50,000 mom. And I were like oil and vinegar 1016 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,100 at times. We're getting better in my 1017 00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:53,900 adulthood but younger. Oh, God. 1018 00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:58,700 That was like my sister. We fought a lot, but again, it 1019 00:58:58,700 --> 00:59:02,600 was just nice diet. After the SE, TS, my dad was 1020 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,400 able to talk to me and give me his Insight from a male's 1021 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,500 perspective and he's like, you know, I am disappointed, but I 1022 00:59:09,508 --> 00:59:13,600 can't say that we didn't raise. In to know better. 1023 00:59:14,300 --> 00:59:20,900 So, as long as you are, okay, you know, we can't fault you for 1024 00:59:20,900 --> 00:59:26,300 exploring something, but we just hope that in the future, maybe 1025 00:59:26,300 --> 00:59:31,400 you do it in a sense where it's not just curiosity, but maybe 1026 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,400 you do it in a smarter way and aspect. 1027 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,500 And that was, when I started on birth control, I think I went on 1028 00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:43,200 birth control a week later and, you know, my call To send off 1029 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,100 was a very big large box of Costco, condoms. 1030 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,700 Didn't you were giving condoms out to people in English? 1031 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,500 Yes, I did. This is the whole reason why 1032 00:59:55,500 --> 00:59:59,600 Sapphire is your place started was because we would have Sunday 1033 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,800 night call ins to my mom about sex. 1034 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,000 I remember this, I remember this from when you were on my show, 1035 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,400 this is what spine sapphires your plate formerly known as 1036 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,800 Erotic City radio. So it's like a Of this. 1037 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,800 I do have to thank my mom for it, but it makes sense why she 1038 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:20,100 does not want to talk about this whole journey of the sexual 1039 01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:26,700 deviant. She, oh my gosh, I just so 1040 01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:30,700 appreciate that story. I will say, we don't have to go 1041 01:00:30,700 --> 01:00:33,900 into it, but just like, also another, like, losing virginity 1042 01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:39,800 Story the day after I lost my virginity, I got baptized and I 1043 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,900 thought for sure I was going to hell and I I'm sitting there 1044 01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:46,500 like everybody for sure knows that I had sex last night in the 1045 01:00:46,500 --> 01:00:49,800 winter. I knew like The Scarlet Letter 1046 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,500 was like coming and I like and I just remember I had this like 1047 01:00:53,900 --> 01:00:57,700 Silk suit on and the water got on the silk suit and then I 1048 01:00:57,700 --> 01:01:01,700 smelled like fish and I'm like, this is what I get church and I 1049 01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:04,200 smell like fish and I had sex. That's name. 1050 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,400 Everybody knows. Oh, how we doing? 1051 01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:12,600 Oh, how much we have grown from our excursions, right in our 1052 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,700 experience. That religious guilt y'all. 1053 01:01:16,700 --> 01:01:22,800 It'd be cool. Yeah, well on that beat out, I 1054 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,700 just have to say thank you so much for just being the badass, 1055 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,000 just badass female. I hate to say the bad bitch cuz 1056 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,300 like not every woman should be called a bitch. 1057 01:01:32,300 --> 01:01:36,000 I'm sorry that's just just how I roll but thank you for just 1058 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:41,500 being the Amazing Priestess goddess friend from own that I 1059 01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:45,500 cherish, so so much happy fucking Mother's Day to you. 1060 01:01:46,100 --> 01:01:48,500 Where can people get in touch with you? 1061 01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:52,400 And just, you know, just dive into the sanctum and whatnot. 1062 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,700 Oh my God, I would love for everybody to find us at the 1063 01:01:56,700 --> 01:01:59,000 Flaming younits.com is our website. 1064 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,900 There is a page there for slut, sisters and membership and you 1065 01:02:01,900 --> 01:02:05,500 can do that. I am on Twitter at Priestess. 1066 01:02:05,500 --> 01:02:08,600 Anya, I am. On Instagram at Priestess, Anya. 1067 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,200 And as of today, I'm still in Tick Tock as at a priestess 1068 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,800 Anya. We will see where it all goes. 1069 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,600 Anya is AI n e. So perfect. 1070 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,400 And of course, I'm going to be linking your link tree to this 1071 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,000 episode so you can get all the links all in one spot. 1072 01:02:25,300 --> 01:02:28,900 Follow that as listen to The Flaming Yoni, it is ear Place 1073 01:02:28,900 --> 01:02:32,600 certified because honey, I don't push a lot of podcasts because 1074 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,200 the producer are starts churning. 1075 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,600 And I'm like, nah, I can't do this. 1076 01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:40,500 Well, I mean, And I love love listening to you, ladies on, and 1077 01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:44,200 off moan into the Flaming Yoni. I just feel that I am just 1078 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,000 sitting in sipping on wine with my weed. 1079 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,300 Pain. And just enjoying early, good 1080 01:02:49,300 --> 01:02:53,300 wholesome Horsham horse immersed. 1081 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:57,800 Horsham, not wholesome. More sacred to the yes. 1082 01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:00,900 Okay. I adore you so so much. 1083 01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:03,700 So thank you just for everything that she keeps doing in this 1084 01:03:03,700 --> 01:03:06,100 community. We need more Mama's out there 1085 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,800 like You so thank you. Of course you can find me y'all 1086 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,200 at Miz radio, Sapphire on Instagram. 1087 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,600 No Twitter. I am seeking a break. 1088 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,600 Personally, from the mon app for at least a month, we will see, 1089 01:03:21,300 --> 01:03:25,100 just gotta do what I gotta do, but sapphires, your play will be 1090 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,200 continuing on some episodes. Like I said, my girl man is just 1091 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,700 K. The headstrong housewife herself 1092 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,600 is going to be coming on next week for a really good episode. 1093 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,500 We're talking about sex like older sex. 1094 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,500 Let's talk about the mature insects and why did you stop 1095 01:03:39,500 --> 01:03:43,500 shutting folks for being older and freaky into their own. 1096 01:03:43,500 --> 01:03:46,000 So there's a pattern going on.you. 1097 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,600 Anya and now we got mistress cake coming up so you guys don't 1098 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,400 want to miss that Atmos radio Sapphire.com at sapphires are 1099 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,700 play, every podcast outlet that you need and of course, I'll 1100 01:03:57,700 --> 01:03:59,500 catch you guys next time. Remember that's safe. 1101 01:03:59,500 --> 01:04:03,000 Sex is the best. Hot sex till next week, good 1102 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,000 night. That was the show. 1103 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,400 All you sexy motherfuckers out there. 1104 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,100 Remember to follow at Miz radio, Sapphire and sapphires are play 1105 01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:12,000 on Instagram. One Samir guys, wounds of the 1106 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,100 past and future. Make sure to follow on Apple 1107 01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:17,900 podcasts, anchor Spotify, iHeartRadio and all streaming 1108 01:04:17,900 --> 01:04:08,200 platforms. Remember to follow at Miz radio, 1109 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,000 Sapphire and sapphires are play on Instagram. 1110 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,900 One Samir guys, wounds of the past and future. 1111 01:04:12,900 --> 01:04:16,100 Make sure to follow on Apple podcasts, anchor Spotify, 1112 01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:18,900 iHeartRadio and all streaming platforms.