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Warning, the following program 
is not for the weak hearted, 

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those who are close minded or in
general you're scared to learn 

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what's behind closed doors. 
Here at Sapphires Airplay. 

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I want you to pour the wine, 
grab somebody that you want to 

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hold on to, or better yet, get 
the vibration stimulated through

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your body. 
Get ready for one hell of an 

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orgasm in 54321. 
What is about you sexy 

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motherfuckers out there in 
Radioland? 

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It's your girl Sapphire. 
And I am excited. 

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I know I keep saying I'm 
excited. 

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I'm always excited. 
I think it would be kind of 

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weird if I wasn't excited for my
guests all the time. 

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But my next guest, it's so 
crazy. 

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They complimented me on the 
purple. 

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So thank you baby. 
I really appreciate it. 

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But as you can see, it's a 
prideful it's about to be gay, 

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gay, gay, gay, gay. 
I love it, love it, love it, 

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love it, love it. 
But my next guest, Zariah Aura. 

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Yes, Zariah, not Mariah. 
Zariah Aya Aura, bringing her 

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lovely aura. 
In essence, she's nominated for 

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a shit ton of awards, including 
Pornhub Award for favorite Trans

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model. 
Later on this summer, she's also

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going to be making her way down 
to the Trans Premium Social 

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Media Star of the Year for the 
XMA Creative Awards, which of 

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course you can go for that as 
well. 

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We're going to get into it, but 
I'm just so excited to bring the

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rowdy fat boys to bring in 
Zariah Aura. 

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Zariah, you ready for the frat 
boys to bring you in baby? 

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I'm so ready. 
Let's do it the Raya Zaraya 

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Zaraya. 
Oh my goodness. 

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So I was telling you before I 
ran into your husband had the 

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pleasure of meeting him last 
summer. 

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I know that you guys had just 
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under a year ago as well, which 
is so funny because I too and 

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still in the like marital bliss 
of it all. 

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I just got married about 5 
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My gosh. 
I could grab yes, yes, so, so 

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many questions that could be 
asked. 

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I mean, I'm sure you've already 
been asked all the things of 

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like, you know, how are you 
dealing with marriage and porn 

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life? 
And you know, what are you like 

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doing with scenes? 
Are you guys going to still do 

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scenes together? 
But like, fuck it, let's get to 

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the nitty gritty married life 
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Where are we going? 
It's it's perfect. 

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I love it like we've I feel like
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like everyone already thought 
like they were just like y'all 

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been together forever. 
You know, it just gave that, you

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know it's so the transition into
married life didn't even feel 

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too too crazy big. 
I feel like we already were so 

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intertwined in our lives and 
like, just already supporting 

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each other in ways that, like, 
people level into, you know, and

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it was just already happening so
naturally. 

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And so, yeah, I feel like it 
solidified everything and made 

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us even more comfortable and 
everything. 

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But like, we were already. 
So, you know, there was no like,

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we trust each other, we love 
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And so none of that really 
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It just feels like just some 
security, especially with like 

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how the world is, you know, 
making sure that we can be there

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for each other when we need to 
be, you know, legally and all of

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that. 
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Yeah. 
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I mean, we were already, I felt 
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I love that. 
I think it's you know what, it's

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crazy it and especially, you 
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gay out there. 
Everybody seems to say the same 

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thing. 
It's like when you find your 

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person, it's like we were 
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We were always like, would you 
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Did you do a U-Haul? 
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Well, kind of, I feel like it 
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normally have went. 
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ourselves some time. 
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and we dated kind of for like 3 
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official, but we were already 
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you know, we just hadn't said we
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We're like, you know what, we 
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We do the thing, but then 
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like, we're like, OK, we can put
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together. 
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I gotta say, three months and 
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for LA. 
Come on now. 

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Yeah, that's already that 
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Y'all were already married at 
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Boom. 
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Like legalities just helped it 
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It's so funny with that. 
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love at first thrust? 
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When we first met, we actually, 
so we met at X bar in Denver and

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I was performing for a drag show
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We ended up dancing and like 
making out and like right then I

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just looked in his eyes and I 
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the one. 
It was so weird. 

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It was so crazy. 
He's love. 

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In the club, y'all, yeah. 
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everything like just just like 
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And then like it was just him 
and I and it was so insane. 

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So, but the crazy thing because 
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And so I was with my, I was with
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And so I had told him already 
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I was like, I want to bring 
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And he was like, OK, for sure 
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And so right away after we 
kissed, I was like, this is the 

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one. 
I want to bring this one. 

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And so I did. 
I took him home. 

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We had a threesome. 
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And then, yeah, hugged him from 
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I it's so funny, I see like some
parallels between you and I I 

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myself am polyamorous and I 
don't know if you feel the same 

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way, but don't you hate it when 
people ask you regardless if 

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they're in the industry or not? 
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were Polly before, but like, now
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still Polly? 
So funny, so funny. 

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I've had so many people ask that
and like just having to be like,

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yeah, it doesn't really change 
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You know, the, our dynamic, it's
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And so people get confused with 
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polyamorous marriages and stuff.
And I'm like, no, I, I have some

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friends who are also polyamorous
that are married and still do 

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their, their thing. 
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see it. 
So also live it. 

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And like, like I said, it just, 
it is who we are. 

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It's not like we have to like 
think about it or like may it 

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just this is how our 
relationship is and it's cool to

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see people from the outside 
being like so confused by it and

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so like y'all are so open. 
How are you like this? 

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Like how do you do this? 
Like it's just who we are. 

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I Oh my God, I feel that. 
It's so funny. 

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So a couple weeks ago I was 
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fibroids. 
Didn't know it had like a whole 

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sis rupture in everything. 
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So I go to the Dr. and I'm with 
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we're out, like we, we love 
telling people where polyamer 

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is. 
So what, what are the odds that 

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we're talking about polyamory? 
As I'm just spread eagle? 

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They're giving me the 
ultrasound. 

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I, you know, someone's in my 
vagina looking around and they 

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were just like, oh, so you said 
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that all work? 
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babies, that I'm hike. 
I'm so dead. 

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It's like it's the best feeling.
It's the best feeling, though, 

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to be able to like, just share 
that, you know, unconventional 

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side of relationships. 
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the fact that somebody with 
hands deep in my vagina asked me

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about the Poly life. 
I'm like, well, I haven't been 

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here before. 
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I feel like as like polyamorous 
people going out into the world 

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and like talking about it with 
like people who completely are 

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like so far away from that kind 
of lifestyle or just like that 

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way of being and explaining it 
to them is so fun because 

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they're so intrigued. 
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like some people even figure out
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they themselves are like holding
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And so they feel a lot freer 
seeing somebody else do it. 

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And it makes them kind of 
inspired to like get to know 

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themselves more. 
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like, now I'm polyamorous or 
whatever, but I think it opens 

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up people's, you know, mind into
potentially going down that 

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route or even trying or just 
kind of being more open with 

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people and like your partners 
and like the people that like 

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you're the closest to, you know,
just like letting them be freer.

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And so, I don't know, it's, it's
awesome opening up people's 

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minds. 
When did you in fact find 

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yourself like, hey, I'm 
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Like I'm not just queer open, 
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Like this is just who I am and 
there's no going back. 

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That was, it was 2020. 
So during COVID I had already 

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like all of my relationships 
growing up have always been 

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pretty open. 
And in 2020 is when I got with 

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my my then partner who was 
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And it's just, yeah, we ended up
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I kind of understood more of it 
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it. 
I just was open, you know, and 

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you know, doing that thing. 
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somebody that is polyamorous and
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their friends who are a Poly as 
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showed me that this is where I 
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A whole new world. 
Yes. 

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It really. 
All of. 

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Them give me all the things I'd 
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I don't know. 
It's just so interesting when 

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you find your people and you 
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And I'm, I don't know about you,
but I'm such like an energy 

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person. 
Oh, yeah. 

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Oh, it's like when they say sex 
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I don't know about you. 
Like, I don't know if it was for

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me once I got older out of that 
hoe face, like I'm a selective 

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hoe. 
But like before, you know, like 

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I was, oh, I was out in the 
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I didn't care. 
I wanted all, you know, just all

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the energy. 
But then you notice, like, damn,

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there's so much energy that goes
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than just a conversation. 
I feel you know. 

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No, I feel like I notice it 
especially when sex happens like

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off a whim like it just like the
way that it just like happens 

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with no planning, no nothing. 
That's when I'm the most like, 

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whoa, this is so intense. 
And it's like I, I feel like 

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there's just a whole different, 
you know, energy that you're 

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feeling from them when you're 
just like both just like it just

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happens and it's like, you know,
I don't know, instead of 

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planning it. 
I don't like that. 

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OK, it's so funny. 
We were just, I was talking 

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about scheduling sex over the 
weekend out of ironically, I was

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on a set and we were talking 
about that. 

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And I like even just one of the 
works I've been reading as an 

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intimacy coordinator in 
training, there's this book 

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called Your Pleasure, your 
Blueprint for Pleasure, I 

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believe it was called. 
And she was talking, Ajaya's the

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author and she was talking about
scheduling socks. 

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And so we got like brought it up
to the cast members and some of 

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them were like, no, you, you 
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but you still have to somehow 
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So for you, you know, and your 
husband, it's like, I can only 

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imagine. 
How does wine in porn schedule 

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sex? 
Then schedule it Like not just 

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scheduling sex, but I'm talking 
about like you got to schedule 

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the same sex. 
Then you have to schedule sex in

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your own private life like. 
It's difficult, it's difficult 

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for sure because obviously we're
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and that is the schedule and of 
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And so that can be taxing 
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have just time one-on-one with 
your partner or with your other 

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partners that you like, you 
know, lovers and stuff like that

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as well. 
Like it just, it can be, it can 

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be a lot. 
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to have those. 
So it doesn't happen as much as 

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we would like. 
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like when we do get around all 
of our people that we're like 

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into, it always ends up becoming
some type of orgy. 

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I can't, I don't know what to 
tell you. 

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We're all tested, we're all 
here. 

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Let's just do it. 
I don't get to schedule. 

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You're going to be gone in two 
weeks. 

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You're traveling, I'm leaving, 
you know, like there's just so 

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much moving parts that it just 
we are known for that. 

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It's like you're at a little 
party. 

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If Nikki and Soraya walk in, 
there's bound to be a play 

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moment that's going to happen. 
Well, let. 

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Me make sure that I'm in the 
right social circle, because you

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and I both know the right. 
Party you and I. 

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Know both exactly some of the 
same people. 

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So I'm like, honey, if I know 
that y'all are coming, I'm a be,

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I'm a be looking flash. 
I mean consensually, 

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consensually of. 
Course no please. 

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Please. 
But it's like, oh God, I love 

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oof orgies. 
You just have me thinking and I 

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just, I know that you were in 
Hustler. 

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I think it was like April or May
and you were talking about 

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orgies. 
And did I read this correctly? 

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But like your first birthday 
orgy? 

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That I just that I recently had 
my Yeah, I had two birthday 

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orgies. 
Oh, OK, let let's let's get into

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this. 
Oh, it was so good. 

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So Nikki actually planned it out
for me, which was really nice. 

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And so we just, he hit up a 
bunch of our friends in the 

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industry, you know, that we 
already have like our own type 

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of like relationships with. 
And so, yeah, they ate in Star 

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Evil Angel, director, performer,
you know, amazing friend of ours

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who we have a lot of sex with 
and we work with and, you know, 

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all of that. 
We, we always shoot for Evil 

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Angel. 
We do all the things, you know, 

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it's, it's great. 
So she set up a party at her 

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warehouse. 
We got all of our friends 

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together and it was just so, so 
amazing. 

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We had some men, women do like 
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So it was it was really hot. 
We got to bring together some of

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our like favorite people to fuck
and I got worshipped for both of

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the orgies, which was really 
nice. 

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I tend to get worshipped a lot. 
It's like, you know, little 

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goddess. 
So I. 

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Mean you do bring that energy. 
You do have this like goddess 

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aura to you. 
I mean, literally it would have 

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been in your name. 
I mean it wouldn't have been, 

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but no, you definitely have like
this like command to you. 

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I'm like finding myself 
flustered even interviewing you 

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because I'm just like, damn, I 
want some more. 

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And also yes, I love Aiden. 
It's so funny. 

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Aiden and I go way back. 
I used to be a producer for her 

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at Vivid Radio back in the day. 
So like a lot of these folks 

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like and April floors and I can 
go down the list like all of 

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these folks in in porn have like
seen baby queer sapphire. 

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It's so Napo like baby Sapphire 
has like grown up, gotten 

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married and they're just like, I
thought you would have gotten 

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married to a woman. 
I'm like, I know, like honestly,

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it's just I don't know how you 
know the world is just it's 

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weird. 
It's weird how it just aligned 

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you with your person, but just 
being polyamorous. 

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I love how you said it. 
It's just like very bisexual. 

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I just love how fluid sex can 
be. 

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And I feel like being a 
polyamorous queer person, but 

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the sexual pool out there, it 
just, it's so I feel more 

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accepted now than I did back 
then, in a weird sense. 

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Of course, I feel like, and I 
feel like maybe that has to do. 

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I don't know, I don't want to 
assume, but maybe that has to do

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with the having more queer sex, 
you know, when you're having 

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more interactions with queer 
people and sex with both and all

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and everything, you know, I feel
like there's a lot more 

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acceptance and a lot more 
comfort with queer people and 

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sexual, you know, ways. 
It's just, I don't know, it just

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makes sense. 
Yeah, it makes sense. 

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It makes it better. 
And I don't know, it's just like

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you have a more acceptance of 
bodies. 

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Like even just in the adult 
industry in general, anybody who

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gets in it, whether they're 
working behind the scenes or in 

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front of the camera, you are in 
front of a lot of different body

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heights, a lot of ableism. 
And just like even the 

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acceptance of trans folks, I 
feel has evolved in just my 

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time, 15 years, almost 20 years 
in this career. 

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And so for you, I feel like 
Zorai, you've entered into late 

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the social media era of porn 
where, you know, 2020, here it 

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is for you. 
You're polyamorous, you're 

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exploring, you're, you know, on 
the rise to becoming the woman 

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that you are today. 
And it seems like there's been 

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this whole transition, if you 
will, with Transporn where it's 

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becoming a little bit more 
socially accepted on some ends. 

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And especially just the social 
media drive of Transporn I feel 

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like has just blown up in the 
past like 5 or 6 years. 

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Yeah. 
Like how, yeah, let let's talk 

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about this journey for you. 
Like going from this digital era

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to now, like where it's going to
be for you? 

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Oh my gosh, I don't know. 
I think right, it's right now 

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it's just trying to keep up with
it, trying to keep up with, you 

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know, like you said, starting in
this era with like digital and 

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all of that. 
Like we are already starting 

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there. 
And like you said, it's changed 

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so much for you from the last 20
years. 

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I can only imagine what the next
15 to 20 years are going to be 

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and how to keep up with that. 
So I mean, that's the one thing 

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like it's just, it's kind of, it
is a shock, you know, because 

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coming into it, you're having 
all these people trying to 

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figure it out. 
So you're like trying to learn 

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from like the people who are 
like the newest Sabbat because 

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that's the ones that I've, you 
know, we're all learning at the 

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same time. 
So yeah, I think it's just going

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to be keeping up with it and, 
you know, not staying stagnant 

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and knowing the next steps. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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I think in a previous interview,
I want to say it was my boy Matt

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Slayer. 
You guys were talking about AI 

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and you seem very adamant 
against AI and I love that. 

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I feel like more and more it 
worries me that AI and porn is 

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just going to like, collaborate 
too much. 

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I'd rather see verticals than AI
get started in. 

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And so how do you protect your 
image not just as a trans 

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performer, but just as a trans 
woman against AI, especially 

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because, you know, now there's 
these different enhancements 

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that we can make almost like AI 
feel like it's a false 

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advertisement to your fans. 
Yeah, you're losing. 

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You're losing their people, are 
losing their image through, you 

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know, using these different 
softwares and different things 

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to like, show themselves as what
they want to be or imagine. 

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And like, once they see you in 
person, they're not going to 

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even know it's you, you know? 
And it's just, it's too much. 

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I think that when it comes to 
AI, I've just always seen like, 

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I don't like fake news, like to 
not, you know, like I don't like

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fake things that just, it freaks
me out. 

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I like to be as like aware of 
like the truths and things that 

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are happening. 
And so AI just freaks me out in 

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that way. 
And I don't want us to lose our 

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jobs. 
You know, we don't want them to 

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come in and, you know, have 
these like Instagram with all of

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these accounts, these fake AI 
accounts that you don't even 

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realize they're AI with the porn
right now, I think you can still

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tell pretty well. 
Like, it's pretty easy to clock 

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it, but when it comes to like 
social media and like these 

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accounts that our models are 
creating and they're just 

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showing themselves doing these 
crazy things and it's hard to 

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tell. 
It is hard to tell now if it is 

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AI or not. 
And so yeah, I'm just, I 

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definitely am not for it. 
I've protected myself by like 

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when I've had companies that do 
AI, the like those companies 

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that come in like ask you, oh, 
hey, we'll give you this much 

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money if you use our AI thing 
and you can make it again. 

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I've said no to every one of 
them. 

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And even though if they're big 
offers, it's like, OK, well, I 

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mean, you're not going to fork 
up that much money if it wasn't 

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important and if it wasn't going
to make you money in the long 

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run. 
So if you're offering ME203040K 

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to do this right, then you're 
going to put tons of money off 

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my image. 
And who's to know what you'll do

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with that image? 
So do you think? 

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It would also just destroy the 
girlfriend experience. 

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Like I know that you offer that 
on your website now. 

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And it's like there's a lot of 
women that I've interviewed in 

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the past who have teeter 
tottered between this whole AI 

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girlfriend experience where, 
yeah, they render themselves 

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into a machine. 
Their fans can talk to them, but

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it's like. 
It's not you, it's not you and 

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it's going to, it's so weird 
because then at the end of the 

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day, what is it going to say 
that you don't align with? 

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And, and you have people 
thinking that that's what you 

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believe or the AI can mess up in
any type of way. 

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And then on top of that, there's
no like there's no real 

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interaction going to happen 
moving forward with you, the 

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actual person, because they're 
going to fall in love with this 

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fake AI of you. 
And they don't end up needing to

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pay you as much money or even 
book you or do any of that 

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because they have something that
can just be generated right 

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away. 
And you're going to make pennies

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on the dollars you could have 
made. 

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Take no folks listen. 
It's like, I know that a is are 

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taking, you know, jobs on so 
many different levels. 

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But at the same time, I feel 
like there is a big risk and a 

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big disconnect and disservice to
fans, especially, you know, 

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you're going out on the road 
now. 

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It's like, what does that say to
the fan base? 

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Like, oh, I got a ride home. 
I don't have to go to, you know,

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Avns. 
I don't have to go to. 

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I was about to say that you 
don't go to the convention 

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because you don't have to. 
You don't even have that 

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interaction with the actual 
person. 

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So you're like just looking at 
the image, the picture, and you 

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don't need to go and do the in 
person because they're not going

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to know who you are because 
you're like, oh, I talked to you

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in AI. 
Even just like that sentence 

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makes me cringe. 
I talked to your copy like it's 

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giving Black Mirror, it's giving
Black Mirror. 

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And that also, that also is one 
of the reasons why I won't do it

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because it makes me think, what 
if Black Mirror is not lying? 

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And like, you make these copies 
and it really is a copy of you 

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inside this thing with all your 
memories, all your things. 

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And you're just like, I don't 
know, the human rights 

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violations and that, you know. 
Listen, I'm a big nerd. 

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I firmly believe in all of that 
shit. 

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Black Mirror Fucking Matrix. 
I feel like right now we might 

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be in that one. 
We're in a matrix. 

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Now that's how I I. 
OK, like we're in some fucked up

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MCU universe because like how 
the fuck is all this shit 

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happening right now? 
Like, Oh my God, at the end of 

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the day, sometimes it's crazy. 
I, I thought about this and I 

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feel like it, it's freaky to 
think about because I think that

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some of the things that are 
happening or are will happen are

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happening because so many people
are thinking that that's what's 

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going to happen. 
It makes it happen. 

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So unfortunately you do have to 
think about what you're like 

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manifesting yourself because if 
you're like like, like a bunch 

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of people complaining about when
Trump got again, you know, got 

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in again, so many people were 
thinking, oh, but like, if it 

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happens and what if it happens 
and it's going to happen and 

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then it happened because you 
thought on it too much and let 

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too many people who are not even
thinking about it and they're 

443
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,400
just like, oh, Trump. 
So they're going to go and vote 

444
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,760
for that because everybody 
around them is going no. 

445
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,280
And this and that I don't know. 
It it's the chaos for me, it's 

446
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,960
the chaos and and what cracks me
up is that I always said that 

447
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,120
election, this past election, it
was we had the CHEAT SHEET. 

448
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,080
We had the CHEAT SHEET y'all and
we still failed. 

449
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,440
I know I. 
Know. 

450
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:56,000
It still sounds, it's like I was
talking about this with another 

451
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,080
trans actress, Blake Lovely. 
And it was just like so 

452
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,400
interesting to hear her 
perspective too. 

453
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:09,360
It's just like I have the MAGA 
fans and then I have the the non

454
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:11,440
MAGA fans. 
But it's like, I don't 

455
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,640
understand how you even get 
concert, like how you can be a 

456
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,320
conservative and a fan. 
Yeah, transform it's. 

457
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,360
Crazy, it's crazy. 
I don't know how many times like

458
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,160
when I went to Texas because and
I'm going again in a few weeks. 

459
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,520
I have family there. 
That's where I was born. 

460
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:35,680
But I, I'm going out there and 
anytime I do, I see the way that

461
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:41,320
they think and I get so thrown 
off because I'll have fans like,

462
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,360
you know, in Texan, I'm like, 
you are a fan and like you 

463
00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:47,800
totally don't give that you're a
liberal or any type of thing 

464
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,560
like that. 
And it's just like so confusing.

465
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,320
It's weird. 
I don't know, it just makes no 

466
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,760
sense that you could be a fan of
mine, but you also don't want me

467
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,120
to have rights and you don't 
want me to be able to even 

468
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,120
transition in the 1st place, but
you actually like it. 

469
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:08,600
And so I don't know, it's like 
there's just a weird like, it 

470
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,840
makes no sense. 
It makes. 

471
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,640
Zero sense. 
Now I I might get a little 

472
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,240
personal with this and feel free
to not even go there with me but

473
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,240
I have to ask do fans ever since
you and Nikki got married do 

474
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,600
they even question how far of a 
transition in your lives would 

475
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,480
you go? 
Like especially being 2 trans 

476
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:37,120
folks in a relationship, do you 
ever fully want to transition or

477
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:40,760
are you happy where you guys are
AT And like what do you see to 

478
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,880
advance about that? 
So I feel like. 

479
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:49,360
Even without having the sex, 
like reassignment surgery, I 

480
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:52,480
feel like I already did the 
transition, you know, I feel 

481
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,200
like getting that doesn't mean I
fully transitioned, you know, I 

482
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:01,200
feel like this is my full 
transition, me being myself, 

483
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,560
finding myself. 
I do. 

484
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,240
I've done my my transition 
naturally. 

485
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,880
So all I've done is hormones. 
I don't have any surgeries. 

486
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,000
I don't do it. 
I don't think I plan on doing 

487
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,320
anything because I just feel 
like I'm so comfortable in my 

488
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,160
body and I've never been this 
comfortable that I don't need to

489
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,520
go and change it in order to 
like seek something that maybe 

490
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,880
yes, I look in the mirror and 
I'm like, I'd like to have bare 

491
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,440
boobs or I'd like to have, you 
know, this brow bone shaved. 

492
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,440
But at the same time, I'm like, 
I don't need it. 

493
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,000
I don't feel like I look bad, 
like, you know, I think this is 

494
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,320
this is what I have always. 
I never even dreamed of looking 

495
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,400
this way. 
So like that's already enough, 

496
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,760
you know, for me. 
And I think the cool thing right

497
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:53,120
now is that Nikki and I are 
seeing what our bodies have done

498
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:56,840
with hormones and because we're 
both lost for hormones right now

499
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,200
because we're trying to get 
pregnant. 

500
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,800
And so, yeah. 
And so Nikki's been off for a 

501
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,600
few years now because he needed 
more time to, you know, develop 

502
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,280
his eggs and everything in his 
period again. 

503
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,760
And so for me, it was a little 
easier. 

504
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,240
I just needed to get off my 
bones for at least half a year. 

505
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:19,800
It's been almost 8 months now. 
And so seeing the changes in 

506
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,280
stopping hormones and kind of 
getting back the testosterone 

507
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,520
and getting nestrogen, we're 
seeing our bodies in a way that 

508
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,280
maybe we're not the happiest 
because it's like, oh, OK, I 

509
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,280
really miss being on my hormones
and him being really hairy and, 

510
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,360
you know, being a boy and me 
being super, you know, I had, I 

511
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:40,160
had like more, more meat on me. 
I, you know, it was curvier and 

512
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,480
all of that. 
And so seeing those changes can 

513
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:48,520
throw us off a little bit, but 
it still shows how it's not 

514
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,000
going to revert me back to where
I was. 

515
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,880
You know, like, we've already 
done enough of the work that 

516
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,960
like, it could never make us go 
back to what we looked like 

517
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,360
before, which was what was the 
problem, you know, not feeling 

518
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,840
comfortable in your skin and 
seeing like, looking in the 

519
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,520
mirror and not liking that. 
And so, yeah, I think that we're

520
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,720
happy and where we're at and 
we're excited to once this all 

521
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,080
is over and the babies, the baby
is here or babies that we're 

522
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,840
going to go back on our hormones
and it'll just go back away even

523
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,720
more than what we ever were, you
know, because it's like you're 

524
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,200
starting not from, we're not 
starting from the bottom, we're 

525
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:27,040
starting from already here. 
And so yeah, that's, I feel like

526
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,560
we're already here and we're 
comfy. 

527
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,440
I love that you just shared that
because I too am also in the 

528
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,320
transition of mommyhood. 
I am trying actively with my 

529
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,920
husband right now and I get it. 
I can only imagine with the 

530
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,200
hormones, the estrogen levels, 
everything. 

531
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,600
Like even just me being put on 
prenatal and changing it. 

532
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,760
Like I had to change my whole 
regimen of antidepressants. 

533
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,520
I had to switch from one to a 
different. 

534
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,080
So it's like all over the place.
So I can only imagine what the 

535
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,720
two of you are going through 
this new chapter. 

536
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,400
Congratulations. 
Thank you, thank you. 

537
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,400
It is it is some we we 
appreciate that because like it 

538
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,080
is difficult. 
It is difficult going from being

539
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,080
on hormones for him almost eight
years, me five years and like 

540
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,040
feeling the best in our skin and
then having to go back and like,

541
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,320
oh, now I've got a little bit of
facial hair that's growing or I 

542
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,040
my voice got a little deeper 
again. 

543
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,840
Or like, you know, all these 
things that like would probably 

544
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,120
make somebody freak out, you 
know, and like, I feel like for 

545
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,840
four, it used to like I would at
the beginning of my transition 

546
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,080
that would have made me 
uncomfortable. 

547
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,200
But like comfortable now and 
like confident that I'm like, 

548
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,480
it's fine. 
I don't care if I have a little 

549
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,400
stubble. 
I don't care if this it's going 

550
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,360
to be worth it, you know, so and
the your transition can be 

551
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,120
whatever you want it to be, you 
know, so who knows who knows the

552
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,400
what kind of changes, you know, 
we want to stay with or get rid 

553
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,800
of, You know, it just it's a. 
Yeah, either way y'all about to 

554
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,520
be some milfs dilfs like y'all 
about to be that PTA like thank.

555
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,840
You. 
I'm a still be hunting for y'all

556
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:13,240
after the baby comes, but like I
love that you're able to share 

557
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,320
that and people you know don't 
understand, especially if 

558
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,320
they've never been around a 
couple who've wanted to have 

559
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,680
babies being trans, you know, 
I'm sure there's that that Flack

560
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,000
about like why aren't you 
carrying the baby or like, why 

561
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,360
aren't you going through a 
surrogate? 

562
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:36,560
And it's like for Nikki as a, 
you know, an FTM, I can only 

563
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,640
imagine. 
Like I got to get Nikki on the 

564
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,880
show to maybe discuss you. 
Do he would love to talk about 

565
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,840
it because it's really, it is 
going to be so insane because 

566
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,800
like the way that society is, 
they're going to be confused is 

567
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,840
going to ask that conversation 
that you have all the time. 

568
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,120
But he's so willing to have that
conversation and so am I Like 

569
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,560
we, I feel like a lot of trans 
people don't want to answer 

570
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,200
questions and that is so fine 
because we're not Google. 

571
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,720
And I feel that if you really 
want to know something about 

572
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,560
trans people or just anything in
general in life, you should at 

573
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,200
least go and do a little 
research before you go straight 

574
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,600
to the first person who you 
think knows about something and 

575
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,880
start asking them everything 
they know about it. 

576
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,600
You know, if you really care and
you want to learn something, you

577
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,560
go and look for the resources 
and then after that you can go 

578
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,520
and start searching from, you 
know, a person to person I. 

579
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,520
Wish there was a rewind button 
just for that part because I 

580
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,120
absolutely not to cut you off. 
I absolutely hate repeating 

581
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,960
myself and telling people like 
Google dictionaries are your 

582
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,920
friends. 
Encyclopedias are still 

583
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,520
available. 
Exactly. 

584
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,760
No. 
And so like I know there's 

585
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,680
definitely moments that we have 
that we're going to look at 

586
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,240
somebody and kind of go, hey, I 
mean, not the moment, not the 

587
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,000
time. 
Why are you asking this right 

588
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,840
now? 
Go and look for it. 

589
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,000
And maybe if you go and you come
back with some points that you 

590
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,600
do need more like, you know, you
need a little bit more insight 

591
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,000
on and advice or whatever, then 
yeah, come back. 

592
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,880
But most of the time we are 
totally fine with answering 

593
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,280
anything that people ask. 
And if we can make somebody 

594
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,120
comfortable enough to do that, 
then there's something there, 

595
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,600
you know, and you're that you 
now, you're the person to be 

596
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,880
able to help them out a little 
bit. 

597
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,000
And if you heal it, if you have 
the spoons, you know, you always

598
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,320
have to take care of yourself 
first. 

599
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,000
But we normally have it. 
We normally have enough spoons. 

600
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,640
But I love that because again, 
it you did make a point about 

601
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,320
it's hard to ask, you know, 
anybody that is in transition. 

602
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,360
Sometimes the questions, 
sometimes it is hard to, you 

603
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,040
know, I get it, pronouns or just
like just being respective of 

604
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,080
like what are the boundaries for
a certain person when they're 

605
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,080
transitioning or going into 
different changes in their 

606
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,480
lifestyle? 
But, you know, I think there's a

607
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,160
right way and there's a wrong 
way, and you always have to just

608
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,040
meet it with respect as long as 
you respect the birthday. 

609
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,320
Meet people where they're at, 
you know, and like, that's why 

610
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,239
like most people, they try to 
ask questions to trans people 

611
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,760
when they first start 
transitioning. 

612
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,920
And that can be a lot. 
That can be intense. 

613
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,880
Somebody who barely knows 
themselves or is barely getting 

614
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,159
to a point where they feel like 
they're understanding 

615
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:21,600
themselves. 
And then to have somebody kind 

616
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,719
of not question your identity or
question you, but it can feel 

617
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,360
that way because it's like you 
just started. 

618
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,800
You're just finding yourself and
somebody's like, you know, 

619
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,040
asking out these questions. 
You can feel like, OK, now I'm 

620
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,639
feel like I'm being attacked or 
I'm feel like that you don't 

621
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:40,520
actually believe me, so I have 
to explain myself to you, which 

622
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,400
is one thing that trans people 
have to go through a lot. 

623
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,080
And so, yeah, just time and 
place. 

624
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,120
Time and place are everything 
and especially like for someone 

625
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,639
like yourself, you're Latina, 
you're trans, you're married, 

626
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:57,640
you, you have all these like 
entities to you. 

627
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,560
So I can only imagine what the 
struggle can be because like you

628
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,120
said, it's there's so many 
people out there that are 

629
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,800
against, you know, who you might
be. 

630
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,160
And then it's like, in many 
ways, yeah. 

631
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,800
It's like how it's at the same 
time, it's like I am a person 

632
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,760
first and foremost, like as 
much. 

633
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,200
As much as she looks ethereal, 
she's still a person, Yeah. 

634
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:21,760
You're still a person, you still
bleed. 

635
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:28,160
You feel like there's just time 
and place now when fans is there

636
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,000
like just like that, that 
boundary where as you go into 

637
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,640
the future, because the fact 
that you're such an open person,

638
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,280
fans out there, what do you want
people to just be respectful on 

639
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:48,240
the boundaries? 
I don't really know. 

640
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:52,400
I feel like I feel like most of 
my fans are very good with my 

641
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,240
boundaries with me. 
I don't think I've really had 

642
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,760
many problems. 
I think maybe just the way that 

643
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,320
being approached in person can 
be, you know, just being 

644
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,320
respectful of the people around.
Like, you know, if you're in a 

645
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,080
group with your family or your 
friends, I think that's the time

646
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,400
that you should really be like 
making sure that you're 

647
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,560
respecting the person and their 
people, you know, but that I 

648
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,760
feel like we have pretty great 
fans. 

649
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,720
Most of my fans are his fans. 
His fans are my fans. 

650
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:22,480
And so even before we were 
married, we were already having 

651
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,840
people that were related, like, 
you know, anytime they thought 

652
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,000
about me, they thought about 
him. 

653
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,720
And they would make that a 
comment like in even if they're 

654
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:31,800
chatting with me. 
So hey, how's Nikki doing? 

655
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,960
Like a fan, literally. 
Oh, OK, well, how's Nikki? 

656
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,480
How have we been? 
Are you guys having a good like 

657
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,720
relationship, whatever. 
And that was when we were just 

658
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,120
together. 
And then being married, they're 

659
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,080
even more on top of that. 
So I feel like people really do 

660
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:49,680
respect us as a couple. 
They respect me as his wife, him

661
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,320
as my husband. 
And so my fans treat me good 

662
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,200
about it. 
His fans treat him good about 

663
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,320
it. 
And so, yeah, we don't really 

664
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,320
have much problems with fans. 
So I feel like just, yeah, 

665
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,960
respecting the people around us 
and time and place. 

666
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,960
But other than that, they're 
they're all pretty great. 

667
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,800
I love that. 
Now let's get into it. 

668
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,280
Award season, Summertime. 
You're about to be outside. 

669
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,160
Outside. 
I am. 

670
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,280
I'm so excited I missed summer. 
Oh. 

671
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,360
My goodness. 
So the Pornhub awards. 

672
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,040
I believe this is now their 4th,
5th. 

673
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,200
Their 8th. 
Oh my God. 

674
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,600
Yeah, it's the 8th annual 
Pornhub Awards. 

675
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Not my ass being that old and 
dated. 

676
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,520
No, you're good. 
You're good. 

677
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,760
You're good. 
This is, I think this is my 4th 

678
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,400
Pornhub awards. 
I believe that I've been to or 

679
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,560
that I've been nominated for and
stuff, so. 

680
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,600
And so you are now up for 
favorite trans model, which is 

681
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,200
great. 
So congratulations. 

682
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,480
Is there anything that you're 
looking forward to at the award 

683
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,960
season? 
Like walk us through the people 

684
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,880
that have never been to any of 
these awards or any of these 

685
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,960
Expos? 
Like what for you is Zariah's? 

686
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,080
Like I, I'm just ready to be in 
it. 

687
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,520
Or you know what, I'd like to 
avoid this. 

688
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,680
I, I just feel like seeing my 
friends, I really like to be 

689
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,640
able to like have every person 
who you've ever wanted to work 

690
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,880
with or that you've worked with 
already be in the same place at 

691
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,640
the same time, you know, and 
everyone trying to let loose and

692
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,800
recognize each other and give 
each other support and 

693
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,080
collaborate and work together. 
Like, I think that's my thing. 

694
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,200
That is my favorite about it 
because I'll see people who I 

695
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,280
haven't gotten to see in a year,
you know, or I saw them six 

696
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,040
months ago, but it's been crazy 
hectic and all. 

697
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,520
So I just really like seeing 
people who I don't get to see 

698
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,240
all the time during my time with
them. 

699
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:42,000
And you know, as like Nikki and 
I are big cheerleaders. 

700
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,480
Like we were made the 
cheerleaders for the trans 

701
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,960
erotic Awards. 
Like we got front row. 

702
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,680
We were like they wanted us to 
be there to give the energy 

703
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,840
because we do every award show 
we've ever been to. 

704
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,000
We are the loudest people in 
that room and we are yelling for

705
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,640
every person and we're standing 
up and we're being crazy and 

706
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,680
hollering and whatever. 
And it's just, we just love to 

707
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,080
support people and we've really,
we love our friends and we 

708
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,720
really love this industry. 
So like for us, like we see the 

709
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:10,600
art like fully. 
It's not just like a job, it's 

710
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,200
literally it feels like a way of
life. 

711
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,640
And we really like expressing 
ourselves and we love seeing 

712
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,800
others express themselves. 
So award season, award times are

713
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,880
just the the best, the best we 
have the best time. 

714
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,640
I think I remember very briefly 
seeing a lot of y'all just 

715
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,400
hopping, hooting, hollering at 
the Urban X last year. 

716
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,360
And I literally I told a friend 
of mine I was like, who are 

717
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,480
those people? 
I need to meet them. 

718
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,800
Yes, yeah. 
We were up in the front left of 

719
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,520
the stage. 
You were going crazy. 

720
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,760
We were dancing. 
I remember Ophelia and I were 

721
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,600
dancing and then Leilani Lee. 
We all, we all literally were 

722
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,800
all in this corner just being 
crazy. 

723
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,600
And that's how we are. 
We we love it. 

724
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,360
We. 
I love it. 

725
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,800
Bring that party energy and so 
your fans can actually vote for 

726
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,040
you for the Pornhub Awards for 
favorite trans model they have 

727
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,680
until the 23rd of May. 
Which is great. 

728
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,960
So let's make sure get those 
votes up. 

729
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,000
But also you have another one 
for the XMA awards. 

730
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,400
It was, sorry, the XMA Creator 
Awards, which was formerly the X

731
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,000
Biz awards for trans premium 
social media star of the year. 

732
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:29,800
Holy girl, Oh my. 
I got like you are that girl. 

733
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,160
Like we were just talking about 
social media. 

734
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,520
Like you are the social media 
queen, I feel. 

735
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,240
Thank you so much. 
Yeah, I know. 

736
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:38,240
I love, I love social media. 
I remember I was like the first 

737
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:41,160
one in my family to get like a 
Facebook and a Myspace when I 

738
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,040
was younger. 
And so I've always been the one 

739
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,840
to like get my family into the 
friggin socials. 

740
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,760
And so I just love social media.
I like using it. 

741
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,200
I've I'm the girl who still has 
the Facebook and like uses it. 

742
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,640
Like I use my Facebook. 
I have tons of fans on there 

743
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,560
too. 
It's like it's it's my favorite 

744
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,840
place because there's so much 
hate, but it's also, it helps my

745
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,360
page and then it makes the 
people find it that actually 

746
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,360
are, you know, right ends and 
whatever. 

747
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,680
So yeah, no, I do. 
I love social media. 

748
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,480
I'm very excited. 
It's really awesome to be 

749
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,320
nominated again. 
But I think this is my second 

750
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,560
time with them. 
Well, for the Creator Awards. 

751
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,880
And so yeah, I'm very excited. 
I just won my first XMA like 

752
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,240
trophy earlier this year with 
them for the other awards show. 

753
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:32,720
And so it's so nice to get 
recognized. 

754
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,920
I feel very fortunate that was 
my hundredth nomination in the 

755
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,720
last four years. 
So I'm at 103 now because 

756
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:45,280
there's been a few other ones, 
but that one was the 100th. 

757
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,680
And so it was super exciting, a 
big milestone. 

758
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,400
You got to like, I don't know, I
feel like you got to just go big

759
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,200
by the 200th word, like a 
nomination. 

760
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,040
You got to do a celebration of 
some sort. 

761
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,320
And I how like a nomination to 
you is just like another notch 

762
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,560
of the belt. 
It's just another win. 

763
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,480
It's still a win, I feel. 
No, it's always, it's, it's 

764
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,800
literally, it's always been a 
win. 

765
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,840
I for me, the recognition is 
what matters. 

766
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,200
It doesn't matter if I leave 
that day with the award or not. 

767
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:19,000
I like hearing my friends and my
fans scream for me and, you 

768
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,960
know, support me and that's the 
win. 

769
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,840
That's the win is to have a 
whole room yell for you and your

770
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,240
face on a screen. 
And it doesn't matter if I go up

771
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:29,680
there or not. 
I've been fortunate enough to go

772
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,560
up there a few times and I love 
that. 

773
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,160
But yeah, it's just being able 
to see the recognition that 

774
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,400
really matters to me. 
I love that girl. 

775
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,640
I can talk to you for hours. 
I feel just like you have such 

776
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,560
this beautiful energy, this 
beautiful aura again, I'm just I

777
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,800
might have to just name the 
episode beautiful aura with 

778
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,880
Zariah because like. 
That's so cute. 

779
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,000
You just have this like just 
magnetic energy. 

780
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,720
And again, I just, I, I'm so 
thrilled to just have have you 

781
00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:00,080
on the platform and I'm just 
rooting for you. 

782
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,760
Like, please vote, vote, vote, 
vote, vote. 

783
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,080
Get those votes in. 
I'm excited to just tackle you 

784
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,280
in person because it's 
happening. 

785
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,560
I'm manifesting. 
No, I'm, I'm excited too. 

786
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,880
Are you going to be going to 
Urban X this? 

787
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:14,840
I might. 
I might if I'm not pregnant. 

788
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,520
If I'm not pregnant then I 
might. 

789
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,320
Period. 
No. 

790
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,400
Fingers crossed that you are so 
then we'll meet later. 

791
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,560
Yes, exactly like baby bumping 
let's like let's. 

792
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,440
Hopefully, Nicki, you'll be 
pregnant by then too. 

793
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,840
Beautiful Zoraya, where can 
people get in touch with you so.

794
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,480
You can find me at 
zorayaauraxxx.com, 

795
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:42,400
zorayaaura.com and then on 
Instagram at The Real Zoraya 

796
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:47,360
Aura and Twitter at Soraya Aura.
And if not, just Google my name 

797
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,760
Soraya. 
Aura, there are plenty of links 

798
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,880
y'all for you to get those in so
listen read the bio, listen to 

799
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,320
this episode watch this episode 
enjoy it take it for what it is 

800
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,200
and vote for my girls the riot 
look at all the links that's 

801
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,400
going to be in the episode and 
remember folks, you can follow 

802
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:08,440
me at maze radio sapphire that's
MSRADIOSAPPHIRE on Instagram or 

803
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,200
Miz radio sapphire.com fuck the 
X back to the Twitter all that 

804
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,800
case. 
They don't love me there, but 

805
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,560
it's all good. 
It's all good. 

806
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,840
Make sure to also follow 
Sapphire's Airplay on YouTube 

807
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,000
and remember that safe sex is 
the best hot sex. 

808
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:30,760
Till next time, good night. 
That was the show all you sexy 

809
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,360
motherfuckers out there. 
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810
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,080
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811
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,040
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812
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