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It's your girl Sapphire, and it is Urban X week here in LA.
Let me just say this right now, people are flocking to LA.
Titties out, boobies out, just everything.
The people are coming to the Urban X.
And I am with the Hostess of the Urban X 2025 this year and she's
also nominated in three different categories, Most
popular MILF Content creator of the year and Hottest Ink star
except the Batty herself. And I heard she does a lot of
shit talking. So y'all, you know, I like when
they talk that shit, you know I love it.
So I got to bring out the rowdy frat boys to introduce my guest
of honor, Miss Ebony Mystique. Oh my God.
Sapphire. Yeah.
Miss Nagin. Thank you.
That was like I love. It when you call me miss.
Nagin in the whole wide world Girl clock, that team.
Thank you so much. I'm super excited and honored to
be here very rest of this week. Urban X 2025.
It's going to be a movie, so thank you for having me.
Girl, anytime it was a pleasure, I it was like I almost had to
call your publicist who is a mutual friend.
And I was like, oh, I got Miss Evan like, OK, we can do this
all right. And I've heard so much about
you. I've been wanting to meet you
the first time I've seen you step on the scene.
And I have to say your journey is quite unique.
And I love how just unfiltered in any conversation I've seen
you in, you're just very just you're cool, you're relaxed.
You have and it's like, I don't give a fuck attitude and I love
that, but also you just have this like this look, now
everybody's wondering, wow, Sapphire, why aren't you having
Ebony on the camera this time? This is audio only only because
the Queen needs her rest. The Queen needs her rest.
I know what it is. I am literally in a bonnet right
now. I do not have my Ebony.
I'm I think, I think I'm still illuminating.
I'm glowing here, but I'm literally off a flight delayed
flight from Jamaica to Miami and I had to make sure I get here
for the Miss sapphire to miss making sapphire today.
So that was my only goal of my morning late afternoon.
So I'm here, but that y'all y'all gonna have to wait for the
look. I look like some odd baby mother
right now. Listen, and I know there's a lot
of people that are like, I wish you was my baby Mama because
listen, not everybody can pull off the bonnet.
Look, OK, let let's keep it all the way. 100 When the bonnet
comes on, that's when all the shit stops.
I don't know if that's for you. You know, Ebony, if I have
somebody over and they see the bonnet on, I ain't fucking, I'm
going to sleep. I'm going to sleep.
I mean, I'm sleeping bonnet head.
Relax. Yes, it really is so Ebony.
Like I said, you've had such a unique journey and a lot of
people, if you know, unless they're living under a Rock, You
had first began as a nurse, then into the only fans content.
You've also have some ties with the hip hop world, which I
definitely want to, you know, dive into that too.
But like, how does one go from saving lives, you know, with
their hands if you will, to saving lives with their whole
body? Well, I mean, it wasn't, it
wasn't a fun kind of perfect timing situation.
I feel like for me, I had done the scene for Pinky Triple X.
That was my first scene for Pinky Triple X.
She booked me for two scenes and it was very viral and I wasn't
exactly ready for that at that moment.
So we kind of took it down and it wasn't working out as far as
just taking it down and letting it go because people was like
where's the girl? So by the time that had came by,
well, when we when we had did the two scenes before she we
shot, she had told me she, you know, I think you should it's
going to do this. I'm going to manage you.
And I think she did it on the fans.
I don't know what on the fans was.
Wow. So here's the gag with the whole
this is something I only think I've ever said before.
As far as how the financial transition came.
That's another viral thing. We could see in minutes the how
how the progression I believe is, but also financially and how
big this had got. So it was a good time.
COVID had came, I was in, I was a nurse, I already owed.
There were two scenes. She paid me very well.
She started me the only fans. I never checked the only fans
because at that time she was running it wasn't even thinking
about it. And then COVID happened and I
was a nurse. I was a advice nurse.
So which means I'm not in the hospital with hands on patients
here. I'm taking calls over the phone
and of course with the epidemic, you go home, you can talk on the
phone at home for the patient, but I was just newly in that
position. So I didn't have seniority.
So once corona came, I was only going to get like the maximum
unemployment every week. My bills was like what 10 KA
month already that wasn't going to work.
So I I caught this we again after we went to this back and
forth about take the scene down. We want the scene.
The fans want you like I need you back.
I'm not ready. Not just caught in like, yo, we
bought that to be in the house. This is before the whole world.
You know, I'm a frontliner. So we get all the information
first. It was called Corona at first,
remember before COVID. And not only knew because I have
an I have an admiration for nurses.
Not to cut you off. My mom was a nurse and retired
shortly after COVID so I can only imagine.
So I remember like that January, February, that transition and
she's like, shit's going down. She's going to hang out.
Yeah, in the way it just happened because first it's like
people falling about masks and like when you get these masks
and what kind of masks and it's like, oh wait, we got stay home.
So they had closed down, you know, we went into called
quarantine things and I was like, I raised I'm about to just
do this. My main focus when I had been
the other two teams and talked about it went so viral.
My mom had found out very quickly.
Oh oh. She got eight brothers, two of
them as twins, and one of the twins doesn't want.
But I was like, all right, she already know at this point and
like I got to tell my mom and as a nurse, I was paying her
mortgage and stuff that we bought to be in the house and my
funding, my funds is going about to get weedy.
Like something's happening in the entire world that is about
to affect this. Nobody could have understood
what was going to happen was cold that I think nobody could
have said no. Truth be told, Picky had shot me
right before they shut it down. And that scene, because the
first two scenes I had a mask on, but it didn't work.
Anybody knows me with my tattoos.
So I decided my mom no, like I think it was like, all right.
This scene, though, a mask. I'm like, like, for real.
She's like, now you want to do this shit?
Your Mama ready. No, So I just was like all right
in that last game that that next to me, no mask.
I wasn't playing. I squirted crazy.
That went double time viral then the first two and I checked my
only things because almost at $1,000,000 a.
Million a million. It was like about 800 K Damn.
Truth be told, it was already an account that you had, but we're
talking about the money that I had created on my own from that
six months time from the first two scenes that you took down
and came back and. And she put it on her website,
Pinky Temple next. I was already viral and then
moving on. Yeah.
So by the time my hat was ready, it was just like Corona's here,
COVID here, world shut down. This is what I felt like this
what God had given me because you don't make that kind of.
I can't make that kind of money. Being a nurse, I don't even make
any money. But that takes like a lot of
overtime and a lot of stress and, you know, burnt out to even
try to get half of that. Even as a nurse, you know, you
pay taxes as a your worker. It's not your own shit.
But by then I have made so much money already.
And I was kind of in my tea and I didn't even know what else the
world was going to look like. I was just like, fuck it, I
guess I'm Ave. to speak. And from there, it's going
crazy. I, I love this story and I'm
glad that you shared this with us because, you know, again, a
lot of people, you know, did transition, you know, from the
erotica to the only fans. And it kind of blew up.
And, you know, some people are still like, well, I'm not making
this. I'm not making that.
But like, as a black woman, it must feel good just to know that
you were able to provide and do something that you wanted.
And I don't hear enough of those stories where it's like I
decided to leave my 9:00 to 5:00 not because I wanted to be a
hoe, it was just I wanted to make money.
Wanted to make money, wanted to feel.
The funny part about it is nurses are still, you know,
they're women. They still want to be like, they
spend a lot of money on their scrubs and their crops.
They show beautification through their stethoscope.
Yes, or. Scrubs or their Crocs or
something, because they'll spend more money on the nicer scrubs,
the more fitting scrubs. But it's just not an environment
where you wear perfume, you put makeup on, you get your hair
done, you can't have your nails done or people complimenting
about how beautiful you may because that could be a sexual
harassment claim or something. Doctor Dickie, be like, oh, you
look beautiful today. It's just not a pretty place.
So a lot of the one female nurses, because we spend a lot
of time, we become family in the hospital 12 hours, you know,
shifts over time. We know each other more than I
feel like our family at that point.
We always have it and all the girls always talk about how that
thing like they don't feel beautiful in their life and
their job, you know, all they do is sleep for the work, sleep for
the work off days are like, it's like living on autopilot.
And that's how I lived my life for years.
Of course, it was like very honoring my people to say, oh, I
have a black cousin who's a nurse, a woman.
You know that it's very honorable.
But. As far as a person who's doing
that, you don't really get to enjoy.
It's for like the family and the looks of things.
I was always support. Always.
You know, that just resonated with me because I'm in a
transition myself right now after 15 years.
I've been on radio, not just through the adult industry,
though. The, the adult industry gave me
the platform period. You know, I've done hip hop
radio, I've done rock radio, I've done everything.
And unfortunately I lost my job in in December on some petty
shade. Petty shade.
Contracts, yeah, you know, and being the only the only female
black full time traffic reporter.
Yes, traffic reporter. And on the black station, that's
a rare moment people don't understand in LA.
You know, it's not like it's easy to break forth.
And it's not easy as a black woman to transition into this
field and to say that you were born and raised in the city that
you work in. And I got that privilege.
I had that honor, yes. Well enough where they feel like
our socialness isn't getting involved in the team of what
you're trying to promote to the world, which is traffic.
You got to be a turn type of personality too, because people
be stressed out. People are stressed out and
listen, I was told even by my company, listen, I worked for I
heart and they told me Sapphire, do you mind like pulling it back
a little? You're a little bit too sensual
for traffic. And I'm like, then I then you
need to find another voice. The voices.
I would love your voice Turn. I'm like, let me turn on Megan
Sapphire. I'm about to cuss somebody out
with this. Throw brains.
I'm listen. You know, and it's like after 15
years, I was like, listen, I have to, I got to do something
for myself. So I totally get it.
It's like the burnout, you know, I like to live my life on
autopilot. And now it's like I want to do
more, you know, I don't want people to know that I'm just
like the sex talk radio host where the girl who's been in
radio and and this that in the third, I want to be an intimacy
coordinator. I want to help people.
I want to, you know, provide risk management.
And I love that that you too. It's like you knew what you
wanted to do. You had that goal and you stuck
to it. And that's a rare moment, I
think, in this time and day and age where it's like people are
pressuring you, but it doesn't feel like people pressured you.
You just went out and did the damn thing.
And I love it. Especially with the industry now
with the most thing that was from my mom and my dad because
that's what I was supposed to be AMD.
But I quit medical school my first year residency and had
enough credits of course through medical school to take the
nursing board and I passed on the first shot.
So that's how I earn it. It's supposed to be AMD behind
my name, so the most I could do at that point because I wasn't
happy. I didn't like I didn't I didn't,
I didn't. I didn't want to be that girl.
I didn't want to be an indie. I didn't want that.
I wanted to be more in Arizona on them carry out orders and
like being nerds like my mom. My mom also is a nurse to do
drug health. So it was just like looking
through her. I was like, I like that to get
you better and they would have to at least that I stayed in the
medical field. So by the time I got to the
adult industry, they already saw how responsible I was.
My decision making is horrible. I'm I'm very successful in my
life. I don't pour them for nothing.
That's interesting. So that my mom was more or less
like, are you? It wasn't like I played tune.
I never got that from my mom like.
So nasty. Weird girl.
It was just like, how did you mix them up with like where the
fuck that shit come from? Like why she wanted to know,
like why? And like you don't understand
what porn was Because if they don't know, they probably think
you're just going to on a no, no, no, but like you just walked
in the track or you're just selling your body.
No, I'm like, no, I'm on Hollywood sets.
Like this is different. You see me putting my makeup on
and this isn't I got the taxes on this.
It's not. At least you do.
Definitely, yeah. And you definitely have this
image that is none other. Again, Ebony Mystique.
If you don't know who I'm talking about, you won't find
out by the end of this episode. Because again, there's this
thing, this movement that you brought in.
I remember when I was still working for Evil Angel and you
were just stepping onto the scene.
I was like, who is this chick? And OK, don't, don't do not bash
me. Do not.
Bash you for this, let's get it. Because I feel somebody has said
this before too. I had to look and I had to Fast
forward. I was like.
Is she? All woman because like you have
just this strong, like Amazonian, but just like this
Barbie look to you and it's nothing I've ever seen in the
black porn star lineup. And again, you've been uprooted
by legends like Peaky and Cherokee.
Like we all know the Cherokees and you know the go go zombie
AKA go go fuck me. And I just had her on the show.
So it's like you definitely had this like different look on the
facial features where you are fully tatted, pierced, almost
offering this like black alternative Barbie look.
And I'm like, damn, who is she? So that actually was a very,
very strategic move and I'm glad that people did it that way
because in the beginning when people started managing,
managing my career in Germany world, I wasn't feeling nothing.
They were swimming. I was like, no, I don't think I
should do that. I don't think I don't want to do
that. But it was just like respecting
the law, respecting them as votes and respecting the fact
that they really do care. Because if I was probably get
any, if I would have went any other way, it could have been
worse. Like from here, you got to go
through the trauma of getting their back and getting your
grind. I had a lot of lot of lot of lot
of support at the beginning. So I'm very, very blessed, very
grateful. And yes, from the legends like
from Booty Dior to Cherokee, the shit Carmen Hayes suave, it's
men and women. They all really gave me like
supporting the green light. So that made me also more
confident, more respecting of the industry because these are
people that you know, regardless of how they they retire now I
know what they did back then. That's how we know who they are
like they can never take nothing from like they ran that shit.
I'm talking about black porn. How white we talking about when
black porn was that I'll. Thank you, You do.
Honestly, it it, it surprises me that even with the Urban X
Awards, even over the years, it's like, first it was
something for us. Now it is branched out to OK,
this is the Urban X Awards with a sprinkle of what black folks
like from the white side of porn.
And it's like, I don't know, we got to know we're.
Going to talk about this in this show.
I'm sure we're going to talk about Urban X coming up that we
got a lot to talk about. However, let me just kind of put
a little burden over there. Please do please.
Do it's very important for me to kind of try to bring things back
to the old school porn, black porn vibe, urban X vibe.
I'm pretty grateful. It's almost like a blessing that
I got the mic. Thank the mic.
Thank you. And they telling me, Ebony, I'm
like, let's get to the teleprompters because I can't
even see. I need glasses.
I ain't gonna be able to see. They like, do you?
They trust me in that. So I'm super.
I understand 1,000,000% of what you're saying.
And it's, you know, as time change, people try to change.
Look at browsers on TikTok. Now they'll pull us from set to
do TikTok like it's. Crazy.
Things are changing and reviving, so even with Urban X
speaking with the owner, they see the change.
And they also may have thought over the years that maybe they
were keeping certain genres of people out.
Subconsciously. They was more worried about the
black performance in picking up the black people.
So it wasn't like I'm trying to be right since or count y'all.
Yeah, I got a meeting, y'all got experience.
Half the time we don't get nominated for the shooter win.
So it was something for us, but not in that way.
Like we're segregating. And I think the fact that, you
know, just big enough us, it's not segregation, it's just
something too because y'all not giving it to us, so we giving it
to us. It was one of those things.
Can't beat them, Don't join them.
We'll do it ourselves, but I think now over the years, some
of the, you know, others felt like they were being counted up
of urban ass and so they're trying to be a little bit more
mindful and demure. Of the way you said that, I
totally get it. I totally get it.
And you know, it's crazy because this is coming out of time and I
don't know if you, you know, are Privy to the mainstream music
news, but you know, as of right now, the BET hip Hop awards and
you know, the Lady of soul awards are are done.
And so it's like, like you said, having platforms for us to
celebrate that excellence. It is so important.
And I don't want people to think like you said, and I'm fully
with you on this, like I'm not a racist person, but it's like I
like to be able to be seen in places that we normally are not
seen or celebrated. That's all I ever it's.
Irish Day if it's Saint Patrick's Day, yes.
We ain't. Got nothing to do with that
unless we do adna because we know that we got some Irish.
Exactly, and I want a little bit.
More Jager bombs and kill your girl.
I can't probably say wearing Greg.
I'm I get it. So it's like I'm multi ethnic,
you know, they see black, but they're like you're not black
black and I'm not I'm mixed with a lot of things.
I'm a might and I'm loving it and I love that.
I love my culture. I love celebrating my culture
and it's like whenever I hear this from black porn stars
especially, or even just any the Latinas, all those in the indole
industry, it's like damn, we can't ever have something just
for us without it causing some controversy.
Let me put a little cliche on this.
Yes. So working with Pinky very
closely and of course, when they, when you think about
people Triple X and the brand also Cherokee West Coast
productions player, we have black Mexican CEO, we have black
people that actually understood the assignments and not just be
a talent and a worker and understand what you're saying
that this is just a platform they're using their grandfather,
their network. They're not going to pay you the
way maybe even you think they're going to pay you, but you know
they're going to negotiate a rape, put you on a platform and
blow, you know, show you to the fan, show you to the world.
What you do with that is what you do with it.
And if you want to stay talent, you want to stay a worker.
So you just don't. But as you can see, you're on a
productive set. Somebody is running this shit.
Something should click in your brain.
That's so you don't just have to be a worker mentality because
talent, you are a worker. You just left your last shot to
come to another job and work. You don't own a damn thing.
You don't own the contents. Nothing.
You they pay you. That's their trick.
So it it, it becomes a thing where I feel like, and I can say
this because I'm a super black woman.
My name is Ebony Goddess Mystique.
The goddess came in it. I didn't give it to me.
They gave it to me. It's important to remember that
there's a thing called economics and there's a thing called
racist. There are white people that are
on no list, and the biggest white companies don't ever call
they white. It's white people that got
trashed by their own people in the industry.
They was contracted and now they don't fuck with them no more.
So I feel like it's about work ethic and as I feel like it's
about professionalism. And if you take the race card
out of it, you probably get further.
Because if I would have thought like I was like I thought
because my I'm a black, if I would have came here like, oh, I
fucking that white Dick, I'm doing the show.
I ain't fucking being well forever.
Right. Like that then makes me the same
thing I'm saying that they do. It's the, it's the kettle.
It's the. Call it black.
Yes, calling the kettle black. It's like my thing is if the
check going clear and if the before the check going clear, if
the test accurate and it's safe for me to proceed.
Other than that I don't give a fuck if that green, red, blue,
orange got 2 heads, one head, I don't give a fuck.
Let's just get this shit done. Let's make feel magical because
for the viewers, I mean, let's fucking go.
So I, I do understand where people can feel like the racist
can be racist, but I feel like that's only in your own
perception of your mind because the world has racism.
We're all racist in some way or like we're all we all look at
each other as different. You light skin, I'm dark again.
You have those conversations. Right.
So I just feel like there is a thing where other cultures
support each other more, they network with each other more.
They they see each other and they be like, OK, I'm white, I'm
Mexican, I'm Latino, I'm Asian. We all we got, let's run this
shit up black people. And it's just something that we
have. It's better than us from right
before slavery African time because we sold each other in
the trading. Hello.
Listen, I'm glad we had. Yeah, yeah.
Because black people don't always want to dig each other
up, so then they'd be worried about what other people don't.
But Ebony, are you in my head? Are you in my mind?
Because I literally say this all the time.
You got black men, not to say nobody we not well, this is not
the type of conversation, but you have black people that won't
work for the black people because they feel like black on
black porn don't sell as as interracial, but interracial is
still me being a black woman fucking a white man.
It's not the other way around. It's just it's the same fucking
difference. It's a different race and we end
a tangle in each other. I took the words out of my mouth
because, you know, I got a little bit of a Flack.
I heard through the Grapevine. I made somebody a little bit
upset with my Juneteenth episode with Anna Fox and I love me some
Anna. Don't we love Anna?
You know, that's my bestie. That, that's wifey.
That is wifey right there. That is wifey, right?
There, and I understand her brain too.
You know, and it's like, I did call out exactly what you said.
You know, they're the black performers that don't want to
fuck with each other or they don't want to lift each other.
And I did call out a certain individual, but it's like.
Oh well, they'll be. I exactly.
And, and it's like for me, it's like if we don't say it, if we
don't talk about it, there's nothing going to happen.
Sometimes you do have to sit that person down as much as you
love them or admire them and be like, hey, hello.
And then it just be a box about a bunch of reread rah rah,
because shout out to Anna. If you really feel like that.
OK, when it starts your black ass predictions, were you just
shooting black ass people put up a do a do a black ass three
month dinner. Oh, don't get me started on
Black History Month, because. That's how you feel because
otherwise you just hypocritical just because otherwise.
Create a space for that and get my mind if that's the case and
run that shit up. I agree.
And I, I'm all for like, if
you're going to do it and be about it, don't just do it on
social media. You need to do it off when the
cameras are not there. And that's what you know.
Some things had happened where one year I'm invited to a Black
History Month legacy dinner for the performers and the behind
the scenes and then all the sudden the next one comes and
it's like, where the fuck is my invitation?
What did I do? Am I not black in the industry?
No, I just feel like people people like to drain you like
that movie centers like vampire bats.
Yes, and they want to drain and drain the idea of drain your
clouds, drain your beauty, drain everything on body.
My thing is quiet cat. If that's the case, to make that
just like try to move around this motherfucking that's
notation, because everything don't got to be told.
It's more true like this. You don't know when you get that
fight, it's happening true. You know, so my thing would be
like, because there's a lot of controversy about me because of
course my accolades. How did you get brothers
contract? How did you get Playboy?
How did you get this or that or the third?
Me and my motherfucker. So I wouldn't be able to tell
you. I didn't pay for it.
I ain't no extra Dick. Nope.
Nope, I didn't do that. I love it and.
You either go on, take it or read it because I'm super
confident in my brand. I didn't.
I wasn't thinking about oh, I needed to be contacting the
brothers. I didn't even know what the fuck
that was when I got here. I knew who Pinky was.
I didn't remember all these companies, so for me it was just
more of a blessing. The more gracious, more than
like, if I didn't get it or they weren't looking at me, I
wouldn't give a damn because I wasn't even paying attention to
them. I was worrying about my fans and
my mind. You are saying so many gems and
first of all, talking about your fans.
You have a you have some loyals out there, but it's like the
fact that you just thank them first and it's like it's not
about the studios. And it's a thing that I feel in
the end, just in general, if you are famous, you can't be mad at
your fans all the time like you can.
But you also have to remember like who brought you into this?
You know, why are you still relevant?
And it's because of your fans. You can do all the work, but
it's your fans. It's super duper to fans that's
not getting fucked up. They are the consumer.
They can put $1,000,000 key for me.
We could just call high William Spike Lindberg's bitch hire
Cardi B. If they ain't fucking with him,
they ain't fucking. With me exactly.
Like it's it's once it's out, it's out and now you can see
what it do because in your mind can be like the best thing
happening and and to the world. It could be lone fuck.
They are your consumers, even the haters.
The haters are consumers. Even if you know the people that
talk shit, they clearly watching you.
You didn't even know they were alive.
So they come into your comments or something.
They just don't. They don't know how to express
themselves. They want license clicks too.
They kind of shit up too off your shit, like comment and
where is shit. They want license clicks too.
Everybody's trying to get on this motherfucker, right?
So if you understand in that way, it understands that, OK,
this is an industry. I don't really want to come to
your baby birthday party. Like I don't, I don't want to
come to you. I just want to like have enough
respect and you see the value in me and I see the value in you.
This is a job. I think people be getting their
stuff up in their minds and it really comes through their
minds. They're not not my name.
Nobody likes it. How come you say that when
you're just on Twitter site showing that you just made
$500,000 this year? Like in the fancy Like what
exactly? So you don't fuck with us, man.
All you care about is goddamn. Laculates.
Yeah, and it's like, again, you don't get those accolades just
from nowhere. You get them from a base, a fan
base, put it in that work. It's all about that work ethic.
And I feel like we do sometimes in general seem to forget that
in order to make money, you've got to work for IT.
People don't want to work anymore.
They just want that instantaneous thing, you know?
For me, it's not a yeah, you can have all the numbers in the
world, but if your content is shit, your content is shit.
And it is the industry racist or industries are racist who cares
who gives a fuck? You ain't never done.
You're not American. Where you from?
Fucking shit if you're in Africa you want to see some South
Africa is telling you you're not African and they're white so
it's normal. It's really like where you was,
how you afraid how your mind said how you feel about
yourself. Like OK I'm black as fuck but
it's people that clearly like my black ass.
So yes, saying and all. I'm with that, don't waste my
time. Don't waste my time.
It's like they, they expect you to be what they're paying for.
So a lot of the times people get to a certain level in their
mind, did they get lazy about it?
They, they, they can't. So then shit, you can't rely on
them. And then they become, I'm not
just talking about black people, I'm talking about people in
general. Then it becomes like a race
thing because you've got white people who feel the same way
about the industry that black people do, believe it or not.
They feel like, Oh yeah, why is iron?
And it's interesting because it's like, I've had some of
those conversations where I'm like, I would have never
expected you actually feel about this type of way or you bring
this certain behavior like you have this one image, but then
behind closed doors I'm like. You think they're so popping,
they're so popular, they got emotion, but they're still
looking at somebody else's and they might.
They think I'm not, I'm still not there, I'm not good enough.
I'm looking at pictures, Look at her.
And that's where you get fucked up.
That's like party meeting looking at Nicki Minaj, no?
You know what, now that you're just bringing up these little
hip hop names, we got to talk about this.
Let's do it. OK, so Ebony, I feel like I can
like ask anything at this point. You can.
And I feel like you and I have been in the same spaces, just
never knew. But I got to ask you this
diddy's shit. I knew that.
Why did you know I was going to pull it up?
I do, you know, listen, I do my research.
I do not. I am not the podcaster that just
be talking about shit just because I I am not that person.
I'm going to talk my shit and I'm going to research and then
say, OK, I have let's. Do it, Let's do it, let's do.
It all right, so there was a post that you had talked about
in defense of Diddy and I can only just ask why and but yet
after reading it a couple times, like the first time I write it
was like fuck. Then I read it a couple times
and I actually just revisited that post and I kind of
understand where you are coming from because I have the same way
about Chris Brown. And some people know the story,
some people don't, and that's okay.
There's sometimes you just don't meet your heroes.
You don't, you know, and you don't meet people and have these
expectations. But you did say something very,
very close to me where it's like, yes, I've been in the same
spaces that I've never seen anything.
He's never done anything personally to me.
And I get that. And people don't understand that
when you are in these inner sanctum, sometimes you can be
right in the thick of it and something is happening, but
people don't understand. It's like especially in the hip
hop crowd, house parties, clubs, phones are taken away.
OK, people, sometimes your ID is taken away.
OK. So there's no, there's no room
for these OPS to be being like, oh, I was in.
No, let me just say, do you still?
Explain that pose. Yes, please.
Please explain. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm
close enough. I'll say that been to a a bunch
of no, no, I don't know about no people.
And that's what I was trying to say, because at that moment I
had just came off my jumper. I had the doctor Drew.
I had been a few broadcast and it came up and as y'all saw they
were actually questioning porn stars that I know very closely
and questioning them about certain situations.
However, at that moment I was I had got a phone call from my
fashion PR. We're very close to Diddy and
his entire family and we were talking about the twins, how
they was just leaving high school and they about to go to
college. And clearly I've seen them on
the news at they fathers judgment all day.
Yeah. And they were getting a lot of
death threats. This is kind of personal.
We'll talk about it. I was kind of over at this
moment and we were talking about stuff personally between US.
And my thing was I just wanted to post people that that picture
that I had posted somehow will come up on the blog.
So yeah, like on one of these, like.
Mega take out and. All that logs.
Yeah. And I wanted to contest to the
polls, so I posted what I was doing there.
This was a normal party. I even said, your honor, I
started with like, your honor, like I was being questioned.
Right, like. Stolen.
But it was like clarifying and I did make it.
I did. All I said was all I know is
I've been through the parties and been his children there.
Nothing but dancing and people with a lot of money.
We're having fun hopefully and I they say to the women or the
people that may have had a different situation with home.
You know, God bless you like I feel for you but less before we
start to talk all these things. Let the trials show his faces
off because there's like he does have a family.
We're not sure exactly. What is going on and we as we
now can see half of the shit they were talking about but so
shenanigans he got he's in jail for him and his ex-girlfriend
born in prostitution. It sounded like my life like the
sex party. I ain't never drugged nobody,
but what the fuck? Because we do everything like
I've got a freak. Like we'll be just grown up
people doing anything you do, if you don't want it, you don't
take it. Like ain't nobody.
It's. All consensual response like so
I've never been invited to another freak off.
So I was a little bit of like, why I'm not I was.
Going to say I feel like you would have another outcome if
you were invited to like the freak off.
Maybe. Maybe they never brought up the
baby walk. They never talked about it in
court. They never talked about the
liquor that was supposed to be drugs.
We never heard about the little kids.
We didn't find out that he was gay.
Like all we know is that he's got, after all the trials and
all the decorating, he went to jail for prostitute his bitch.
And she was consensus, but she's not consensus with no more.
It's a heavy case. It's a heavy case.
And first of all, Ebony, I applaud you for not chopping my
head off because I love that you just, you spoke on it and I
again, I had to talk to the source.
I had to talk to you because it's all about getting down to
the source. And I'm glad that you won.
It's like you, you owned it. It was already own.
I don't want to get some fucking pictures from me.
Don't know the guys. Motherfucker, what the fuck am I
doing on the Spanish blog? I don't even know what the fuck
this should say in the catch but.
Yeah, it's like you, you say one thing and people will just run
with it. And it's like, you know,
unfortunately this case is happening.
It is blown the floodgates. Horrible.
It's a horrible situation. I feel.
It's horrible. I feel for everybody that was
involved. But at the same time, but I did
find something, a lot of it was conventional.
People were doing things for payday bills.
They kept going back. And you know, it's just decision
making. Maybe now that you grow up and
transition, you'd be like, damn, what I was doing was fucked up.
Like I don't like that person. And some of that shit can go
through legal go. You can get some legal
retribution for the shit that you've done.
But I mean, in the day, like if it's like me five years from
now, we've seen before go on CNN and be like Diane Sawyer.
I think she did now. But but back in the day, don't
know where to get all those sorts of words in the game.
Hey, bitch. That is a perfect example it No,
it really is, because I think we tend to forget and we put
celebrities on such a pedestal. We tend to forget that they are
just people with more money and more clout.
I'm sorry it's just a person and we put celebrities on such this
high pedestal sometimes even porn stars, we put them on such
a high pedestal sometimes it's like hold on, people are allowed
to make mistakes. You are only a shitty person if
you never apologized for what you did to harm somebody.
OK? Or you say I know I caused some,
you know, some harm to somebody, but I don't see the
justification. No, no, no, no.
You're a shit person. If you don't understand and
realize that you fucked up. If you take that to your grave
saying I did nothing wrong and clearly you did something wrong,
you're a shit person. Which if I can't say that
without anything you chopping off my head or anybody else,
that is what a settlement means. I'm not going to chop your head
off. I think it's true.
And I ain't talking about no little, like that's a little
$5000, you know what I mean? How much that Lady got?
I wish I had the numbers. She didn't take it.
She wasn't. Like a lot of fuck that money,
*** I'm taking you to court, fuck you.
I'm fucked up in this motherfucker.
I don't want it. And people don't understand that
some it happens all the time settlements sometimes it's just
because the evidence is inconclusive that's.
Why I can't hear go and buy you a break in the five of them or
six of them. Ain't nothing I can do with
shit. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Either way, you really. Don't accept that apology like
you if a month like to say I'm sorry I don't forgive you.
It's like, I don't want that money, you know?
It's a hard thing. People, like you said, we grow,
we transition, we move, we grow, we elevate.
But that was my thing. I was just contested to myself
because shit, people don't bring me no privacy and that's cool.
I understand that I'm having the things that I posted years ago
at a party. Simple piece of
PrettyLittleThing to party with his son.
He was in the picture, I was just at a party.
There you go. That's all.
That's what that place is going. And I, I appreciate that
honestly, because again, if you're going to go deep diving
into shade, I don't know if you watch Love Island or have
watched Love Island. OK, so you know, you know, the
controversy this year talking about Love Island this season
in, in the US, all of a sudden it's like everybody's past was
unearthed and everybody's like, well, how dare the producers
allow this? And I'm like, at a certain point
we do have to give people some grace, you guys.
You have to give people some grace.
I've got some something or don't go on TV period.
If you don't want it to unearth, don't become a public figure, no
matter how much money. Don't be this person I'm talking
about because not everybody gonna like you.
You don't like everybody and that's just fucking bad.
You're not for everybody or everybody not gonna like you,
But if if if a hater be like you ugly black monkey bitch.
I'm like you love it over here for a reason.
You took your God-given time to actually type it and press or
you want my ass? You watched it, you followed it,
you go to it. But some people that really
takes them to heart, you know, they, they have been so issues
from them kind of things. Some people may take their lives
from type of bullying and shit like that, but that that, that's
just like the tallest part of the whole thing.
It is. And again, it brings it back to
what you were saying earlier, like when you were talking about
your mother finding your your work and you know, she asked
you, are you OK? That's the question we don't ask
enough. That is a question we don't ask
enough, especially, you know, we're black women and we are now
talking about, you know, people talking about the mental
Wellness of black men. But we also tend to forget the
black women. Like, we're not a therapist
unless if you're a licensed therapist.
We are not therapist for broken men, for broken children.
We are not the therapist for every white person that feels a
certain guilt because, you know, racism is put on a pedestal or
whatever it is. And I think even in the adult
industry, it's like we need more of those mental health services
for a lot of these folks. Shout out to pineapple support.
What behind bars? Free Speech Coalition Free.
Speech Coalition, I mean, it's out there.
I think people might be more obliged to it, but maybe there's
just on the company side for them.
They need to do more promotion or whatever the case may be, but
promise you that shouldn't there a lot of it is free services, a
little forced and they don't you know, I used pineapple support
because I didn't understand my thing at first.
They came way fast, so I wouldn't understand exactly what
was going on, but like it's different when it's be behind
the scenes to the celebrity doing wardrobe for them.
So you're their stylist versus now being the celebrity and you
can't even go to Starbucks to take a Uber anymore, you know,
so that. You find?
How do you personally find your piece in that?
I did this to myself. It's what accepting and who's
embracing the person. I'm not like I'm not mad at
Ebony or being Ebony or like I don't regret her.
Like I embrace it, yeah, like I do.
I don't give fuck. Like my thing more or less is
just appreciate the fact that it works 'cause what if I did, they
say, and nobody gave a fuck? What if my mom pulled me and she
was like, I hate you. Her delivery to me kind of made
me become Hawaiian and evil now because she was more like
understanding being aggressive or making me feel bad about my
choice. I.
Gosh, again, gems, gems, gems, gems, gems that you have been
dropping because again, I love the fact that you're like, I
don't take, you know, anything I've done as Ebony for granted.
I love that and I love that you are standing on your business.
You're sitting in your truth. And that's not something that is
easy for someone like yourself. You know, you, you're exposed to
the entire world in a different way than the average human
being, but it's like you have just this aura, this presence.
And anybody I've talked to about you, everybody has said the same
thing. You, you just have this just,
you're just a powerhouse. Like you really come to work.
You know what you got to do, you do it and you thrive in it.
And I'm excited to see and witness this during the awards
show. I mean, this is the first time
you've really hosted something, right?
Well, I can't wait to see you. We're going to have so much fun.
Yeah, this is my first host and I've done like, you know, with
the host and the next present presenting.
I've done billboard but never had the money the whole.
I'm excited. What do you, what can the fans
expect do? You think the fans can?
Expect from you this this all. Right, guys, you're going to
expect a lot of impositivity things that you're not going to
expect you're going to be able to smile and dance and have fun
and I want everybody to still love and appreciate it and want
it even if you don't take anything home, do that girl.
You're that boy. That's very important for me to
illuminate, making sure that everybody feels welcomed and
honored and having an amazing time.
So when they leave here, even if they didn't take this thing
home, they they, they feeling good about it.
They're ready to party because they see her in the building.
Yes. Oh, I'm excited, Ebony.
It has been a pleasure having you on this show.
And of course, you can come back anytime.
I'm going to say this right now. The invitation is extended.
I'm excited to meet you during the award show.
Don't don't send security on me, but I might bum rush you on the
stage. I'm just saying hell no.
You are my face. Fuck you.
Where can the public get in touch with you?
Where can they get all this Ebony mystiqueness?
All of it. Yeah, all my accounts are
finally verified. Don't fuck with the face.
There's a lot of them. Look for that blue check.
Tik tokers are verified. But that's the real Ebony, Got
it? Or the real Ebony Mystique
onlyfans.com/ebony under score mistake.
Just Google me. Just make sure do a FaceTime
before you send some money. Which got to me something first.
We going to figure it out but don't.
Be getting don't. If you don't see this beautiful
luscious lady lady at the end responding to what you're
saying, it's a fake. It's a fake.
Because I love y'all, I appreciate you all y'all very
much supportive and it's more to fucking the mind when nowhere
I'm just being I'm. Excited to see what unfolds for
the next year. I can't.
I cannot wait. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I cannot. It's going to be some shit.
And y'all, you can reach me at Miz Radio Sapphire.
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you got to go for that Ebony. Again, I'm just going to say
thank you, thank you, thank you for your energy.
Just everything, the gems that were dropped and I hope
everybody just enjoys this fucking episode.
And we will come back with a visual I make sure of the next
they get the good. I gotcha.
Yes, yes, remember y'all that safe sex is the best hot sex
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