1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,560 Warning, the following program is not for the weak hearted, 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,800 those who are close minded or in general you're scared to learn 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,720 what's behind closed doors. Here at Sapphires Airplay. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,840 I want you to pour the wine, grab somebody that you want to 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,880 hold on to, or better yet, get the vibration stimulated through 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,960 your body. Get ready for one hell of an 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:27,560 orgasm in 54321. What is up on my sexy 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,040 motherfuckers out there in radio land? 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,040 It's your girls sapphire. And I am so excited because I 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,400 love a good strip club every now and again. 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,280 And I gotta say, since the pandemic, I've been kind of 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,920 feeling even more. And I don't know if that's 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,680 because I've been about four or five months married in. 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,760 My husband and I, we love the girlies. 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,760 And we're like, we have yet to celebrate our nuptials the right 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,520 way. And I am so excited to bring my 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,760 next guest. His name is Mike Dickinson. 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,520 Now, you probably don't know the name Mike, but if the Pony USA 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,080 rings a bell, we're talking strip clubs of strip clubs. 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,440 This is the strip club chains of all chains from places in 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,520 Kentucky, Louisville, we're talking Vegas, Illinois. 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,040 I got to say I'm excited because the man deems these clubs as the 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,120 Yankees. You know I'm a Dodger girl, 24 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:21,880 though by default, Yankees is my backup team. 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,760 But we got the Mecca, the man, the myth, the legend. 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,640 Mike Dickinson talking about the Pony USA. 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,480 Got to bring in the rowdy frout boys for this, talking about 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,400 strip club etiquette and more. Here we go, y'all, Mike? 29 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:37,960 Thank you. Yeah, of course. 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,920 So, Mike, I got to say, a man like you, I see you on the 31 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,400 Instagram, big old, you know, Stetson hat, looking like a 32 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,480 ranching farm boy. How does a man like you get 33 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,520 caught up to be like the king of strip clubs at this point? 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,720 So I mean, I tell people all the time, my job is kind of like the 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,600 TV show Land Man, and the scripts love your oil wells and 36 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:12,240 you get around and you got to make sure they're Purdue 37 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,160 descending and dealing with everything and navigate 38 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,080 everything. So yeah, I definitely wear the 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,120 sets and hat when I can. You know what, I'm glad you said 40 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,520 Land man because that is currently my shit. 41 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,480 The the Taylor Sheridan universe in general, but that show in 42 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,920 particular, I don't think you could have said it even best. 43 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:33,960 So you're you're basically like the Billy Bob Thornton. 44 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,840 I love it. I love it, I love it. 45 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,240 Exactly. Every day, every day I feel like 46 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,720 Billy Bob's character and landing and dealing with 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,160 problems and oil wells and strip clubs and all of that. 48 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,280 So are you also dealing with a crazy ex-wife baby Mama as well, 49 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,840 you know, with a just raging hormonal daughter who was just, 50 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,000 you know, we don't know she's going to become the strip club, 51 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,280 you know, franchise face of the strip clubs later or she's going 52 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,080 to be behind the bowl later. Are we dealing with that too? 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,160 No, no crazy ex wives or crazy daughter, but it feels like as 54 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,840 odds are lots of crazy women that I do have to deal with 55 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,200 every day. Most of them work for me though. 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,920 I love it. So I got to say, over the years, 57 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,680 we have definitely seen a decline in, you know, strip club 58 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,080 culture. I feel like, I mean, now we have 59 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,880 the rise of digital era AI taking over. 60 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,480 I've heard even rumors that AI might even make its way into the 61 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,040 strip club venture. So how are you guys keeping 62 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:45,440 afloat with this whole change of inflation and you know, Jen, the 63 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,840 newer generation really spending money in any type of cub culture 64 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,200 or alcohol fueled, you know, environments? 65 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,560 How are you dealing with all that? 66 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:00,640 I think at the end of the day, no matter how good the AI is or 67 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:06,440 the social media is, nothing can really replace the the 68 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,520 one-on-one conversation. I guess gets with a, with a hot 69 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,800 girl when he comes into the strip club or when who goes into 70 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,800 the VIP room or just the whole atmosphere of coming in and 71 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,120 having a good time like that. Plus, I think if you look at how 72 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:27,440 today's dating world and social interaction world is built, the 73 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,760 whole idea, I mean, there's more, there's more sugar daddy 74 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,080 websites and there are dating websites now. 75 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,120 So a lot of young people are whole or they're very used to 76 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,240 this whole transactional relationship by thing. 77 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,280 Whereas like in the early 2000s and the 90s, it was all a game. 78 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,960 People will come to the strip club to buy bands and it was 79 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,560 like, wow, the, the stripper might really go home with me or 80 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,800 she really might like me. And these days I think everybody 81 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,040 knows that is all just a game and a hustle. 82 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,080 And so I think it's easier in a lot of ways for the dancers to 83 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,720 sell VIPs because I think guests that come understand that it's 84 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,360 transactional. You know you, you, you want 85 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,560 sympathy, you want, you know, comfort, You want somebody to 86 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,120 talk to. You pay 300 bucks and you get a 87 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,200 friend for an envelope. That's true. 88 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:24,360 And you know, and I'm glad that you said that the whole 89 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,760 transactional thing because as I like I, I've been becoming this 90 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,160 big Reddit threader and I don't know about you. 91 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,520 A good Reddit feed sometimes is even better than going on Yelp 92 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,000 and trying to find the nitty gritty of a business. 93 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:40,720 And so as I was venturing through, like, the strip club 94 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,880 feeds and just trying to feel like, you know, where are 95 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,560 people's heads at in strip club culture? 96 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,920 That's one of the things that some guys have definitely 97 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,720 complained about was that they feel like it's more about 98 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,280 upselling and that pressure to buy, buy, buy the dance. 99 00:05:58,280 --> 00:06:01,600 And there's no, like, real connection. 100 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,320 It's that whole, like, pay now and next. 101 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,600 Do you feel the same way sometimes when you're going out 102 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,920 to different clubs and maybe seeking like, how can we change 103 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:16,720 that rhetoric? Yeah, I think that especially 104 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,560 the the younger generation of dancers, I know when I go to 105 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,840 other clubs and kind of shop around, it's very much either 106 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,120 either the the dancer approaches you and she wants to talk for an 107 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,600 hour about the weather and never asks, or they just come right 108 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,360 out and ask, do you want to dance? 109 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,280 Right. The whole the whole hustle of 110 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,200 sit down and work like 20 minutes into getting the guests 111 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,800 to buy a dance. Very few, very few dancers have 112 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,520 that skirt amount. Wow. 113 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,000 And it's like the ability, I don't know if it was the 114 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,160 pandemic or if people got socially stunted. 115 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:01,240 I think people just in general maybe don't socially interact as 116 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,160 good as they did it before the before the pandemic and before 117 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:04,760 all of that. It's. 118 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,640 You know, it's funny, I that is a constant thing that I 119 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,880 literally talk about on this show all the time. 120 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,040 I feel like even my own audience, they feel this is 121 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,080 going to come on since COVID. I mean, shit hasn't been the 122 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,640 same. Really it hasn't. 123 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,120 And one of the biggest things that I talk about is that we 124 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,960 have been so deprived of interaction that even now still 125 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:34,800 six years later, we are still retraining our bodies, our minds 126 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,320 and our just ourselves in general of getting back into 127 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,200 those interactional conversations. 128 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,400 And like you said, there's more sugar daddy websites than there 129 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,960 are dating sites now. And whereas like here we were 130 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,440 sexually deprived, almost five years of touch, now you have 131 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,120 this whole new generation where everything is text based. 132 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,000 And yeah, it's like you're almost too scared to approach 133 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,320 women in life. And yet the strip club used to 134 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,640 be that vice to be like, hey, this is my warm up of how to 135 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:12,640 approach women one-on-one. Yeah, definitely. 136 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,160 And it's, it seems like that's where we're at. 137 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,840 I mean, I think you have to remember that basically a lot of 138 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,800 people they lost two years of their lives with either they 139 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,880 were seniors in high school or they were in college. 140 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,240 And so they lost all of that partying and talking to other 141 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,240 people. And, and now, you know, if you 142 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,880 were 18 when the pandemic hit, you're, you're like 25 years old 143 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,720 now. So you're right, you're right in 144 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,400 that middle where you should be going out to bars and clubs, but 145 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:48,640 you lost that time during that. So you don't know how to 146 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,320 interact and everybody is very awkward. 147 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,760 It's definitely the era of awkwardness. 148 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,840 I mean, even like when I talk about strip clubs now and I'm 149 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,920 such a big fan of shows like P Valley and even just recently 150 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,760 watched the documentary, the second part documentary of BMF, 151 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:17,920 which is the one of the biggest crime games gangs of all time in 152 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,240 the hip hop strip club culture. And they did talk about, you 153 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,600 know, this strip club being the Mecca for all these, you know, 154 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,560 gangsters to just hang out, you know, be a party relevancy. 155 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:33,880 I mean, strip club culture, you hear it in the music, whether 156 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,800 it's rock, hip hop, bass, like there's a heavy influence that 157 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,640 these women have put on. And now it's like some of that 158 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,080 has gone away. And it's not so much as like 159 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,600 being the the naughty secret. It's just the fact that it's too 160 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,720 expensive to go out support, you know, a vice that you love so 161 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,440 much. And I feel honestly, even to the 162 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,600 point where I'm like, yeah, I want to go and blow bands, but 163 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,760 I'm like, is it rent or my personal, you know, my personal 164 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,000 vice? Like, what do you do? 165 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,200 So how do you feel, You know, down the line, maybe even 10 166 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:17,760 years down the line, how can we, I guess not cheap in the market, 167 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,600 but also cheap in the pockets of the patrons who want to, you 168 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,720 know, go out and have a good time? 169 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,000 It's so hard now to find that balance because everything costs 170 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,040 so much. You look on, you look in 171 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,480 restaurants. Big king restaurants can't even 172 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:44,560 make it right now because the cost of everything is crazy. 173 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,120 So it's hard for even the big chain restaurants to make it, 174 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,000 much less small, small strip clubs. 175 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,920 So finding a way to balance the business model so that you can 176 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,680 get people in the door and not break the bank and also have 177 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,800 good entertainment and a good experience. 178 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,760 It's very difficult. How will how it will end up? 179 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,560 I mean, I think businesses and strip clubs especially just have 180 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:18,040 to keep focusing on giving people value and giving, giving 181 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,840 consumers and guests value to get them in the door. 182 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,600 And I think that it the whole business model, you see it a lot 183 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,840 of times where you can't these days of charging $30.00 at the 184 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,240 door and $40 at the door or $20.00 for a drink. 185 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,560 I mean, we're seeing how that's working in Las Vegas. 186 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:40,920 It's it's killing Las Vegas. I mean, Las Vegas is killing, is 187 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,280 falling apart. It breaks my heart. 188 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,640 The whole business model has to really be redone. 189 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,480 Yeah. So would you say this is where 190 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,120 you come in, you know, a guy like yourself, you're checking 191 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,800 out all these clubs, you know, in various areas, Like, is this 192 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,040 your job to really like, go in and say, hey, how can we keep 193 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,840 the fun going but also restructuring this model? 194 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,120 Like, hey, we also need the money too. 195 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,720 Like we're hurting too, but we know we want to give you top 196 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,760 quality entertainment. Yeah. 197 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:18,280 I mean, it's, it's so far now and we we a lot of the times or 198 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,080 go or we try to, we give out free passes all the times we get 199 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,160 in the door. We don't even really worry about 200 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,760 signing a made money at the door. 201 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,960 Wow. If you can get people in the 202 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,400 door, because that's the hard thing these days is you went pre 203 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,960 pandemic where on a Friday or Saturday night you were doing a 204 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,800 hundred 200 people through the door. 205 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,920 These days, even 6-6 years later, you're doing good if you 206 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,280 get 100 people through the board. 207 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,600 So it's better to just give out, give the door to get them in the 208 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,640 door, and then they'll buy. They'll buy once they get 209 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,480 inside. Now, do you see like a like a 210 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,560 like a age fluctuation or do you still see kind of like the same 211 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,240 group like as before? Like is it still a? 212 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,200 It's, it's a lot different. I mean, a lot of a lot of the 213 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,240 older generation, I guess we would call them the boomers that 214 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,160 were like 55 and up, They've kind of phased out of coming to 215 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,080 clubs a whole lot. The younger generation, they 216 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,160 come out, but they come out in groups. 217 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,520 They come out in groups of six or seven at a time. 218 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,480 A lot of the people you see that are under 40 come out in groups 219 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,600 because they're afraid to come by themselves. 220 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,720 So they come out in big groups of people. 221 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,760 There's lots of couples that come out now, more so than more 222 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,280 so than 10 years ago. There's a lot of couples that 223 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,760 come out as well. I was just about to ask you 224 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,440 about the couples because like I, I really enjoy hearing and 225 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:57,080 seeing couples really engaging in the in the circuit of strip 226 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,800 clubs. I'm all for, you know, I'm all 227 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,720 for it to go and have a good time with your partner and take 228 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,920 that that fantasy back home. Yeah. 229 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,600 And it's, it's, I mean, we did a lot of couples. 230 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,520 I mean, we probably did 30% couples, especially on the 231 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,240 weekends, very, very popular. Really. 232 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:21,480 Yeah. OK. 233 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,280 I want to hear some stories because now and again I I can't 234 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,280 remember who it is, but it was there was an NBA wife, I want to 235 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,160 say earlier this year. And I don't know if it was James 236 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,560 Arden's or some, some other baller's wife, but she like got 237 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,960 some Flack for saying like, I'm all for my man going to the show 238 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,320 club. I'll go with him. 239 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,120 I'll pay for the dances. And people are, you know, are 240 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,840 saying like, well, you know, you shouldn't be doing that as a 241 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,800 married woman, But I'm like, why the fuck not? 242 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,080 If you are comfortable in your marriage or in your relationship 243 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,480 and you want to broaden that atmosphere, like, why not go to 244 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,560 a controlled environment like a strip club? 245 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,360 And you know what goes behind closed doors when you're at the 246 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,480 strip club or at a Bachelorette or a bachelor party or just like 247 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,960 any type of, you know, crazy party, what happens in the strip 248 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,680 club? So why not want to see your 249 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,880 partner enjoying the same vice and maybe even unlocking 250 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,000 something of your own that you never knew that was there? 251 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,880 Yeah, we see that a lot. I mean, even last night in 252 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,600 Chicago at the Admiral, we had, we had, we had a comedy show, a 253 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,800 topless comedy show. And we had a couple that were 254 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,280 there and they were, the wife was sitting on the husband's lap 255 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,480 and they were having a good time. 256 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,960 Oh, hell yes. No, you said the wait, wait. 257 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,320 So you said the the wife was sitting on the husband's lap? 258 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,200 Wait a second. There's something missing out 259 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,000 that mix. Where was the stripper? 260 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,840 Oh, she was on stage. We had, it was a, it was a 261 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,200 topless comedy show. We had a comedian who was doing 262 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,520 a comedy show, but she was topless. 263 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,520 So they were sitting there enjoying it. 264 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,040 I love that. So you would you say like with 265 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,720 these themes now doing comedy show like topless comedy, 266 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,160 getting the people in the door in, would you say the flux of 267 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,120 themes has also kind of changed that culture too? 268 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,840 It's kind of helped business or do you feel that people are are 269 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,880 still kind of like testing the waters, if you will? 270 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,960 They're still testing the waters, but it's also you really 271 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,400 have to do events now. You really have to do things on 272 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,840 the weekends that drive people to come out. 273 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,400 The whole the whole business model of 10 years ago where you 274 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,520 would just come in and unlock the door and turn on the music 275 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,520 and people would come. That doesn't really work a whole 276 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,200 lot anymore. You have to do something. 277 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,640 You have to have a special guest, you have to have a 278 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,760 special event, you have to have something going on. 279 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,640 Got you, got you. Now I want to talk about this 280 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:58,680 again with the couples for you. What would be just like, hey I, 281 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,640 I, I would be so happy if we can just get rid of this type of 282 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:13,040 etiquette in the club. You see, for couples, well, if 283 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,680 they could, if they could, if they, if they wanted to have too 284 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,440 much fun, they should go to the hotel. 285 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,680 We've had that happen. Or they get a little bit too. 286 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,520 They start having too much fun and then we have to ask them to 287 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,119 please, no, don't do that. We're not a hotel. 288 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:33,880 We're not a place to have that kind of that kind of activity. 289 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,760 You can come and enjoy and watch, but don't keep, don't, 290 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,400 don't do all of that. Go, go to the hotel and do that. 291 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,440 That part of it. I I sense the southern gentleman 292 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,400 out of you, man, out of you, Mike, So you know, you can get 293 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,080 crass. I I want to know like, please 294 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,960 tell me the nitty gritty. Like are we talking? 295 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,960 Somebody's bringing out sex toys? 296 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,400 Are they fucking? Are they like? 297 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,640 Are they really trying to get away with everything that you 298 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,240 can think? Like, hey, but it's a strip 299 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,800 clubs her her tits are out. Why can't you know? 300 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:11,400 Why can't she join on the? We would, I mean, we wouldn't 301 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,760 really worry if the wife pulled her boots out sometimes. 302 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,720 And you go, you, they, they go into VIP and the dancers dancing 303 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,720 and she turns around. And then when she turns back 304 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,280 around, the couple is going at it. 305 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,720 Oh, wow. Oh, wow. 306 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,400 OK, OK. That happens. 307 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,880 Yeah, I mean guys, time and a place. 308 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,120 I mean, I get it. You think it's like a, you know, 309 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:37,240 I, I do feel sometimes that some people think because there's, 310 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,280 you know, adult entertainment happening in a, in a public area 311 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,240 that hey, it's kind of like a swingers club. 312 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,640 But you have to, like you said, you have to be distinctive. 313 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,120 Like this is a gentleman's bar. This is in, you know, a strip 314 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,880 club. This is not a swing club, 315 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:58,520 correct? Right now How now I just saw and 316 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,640 this is an older documentary so I'm going to age myself on that. 317 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,400 But American Swing, did you ever watch that documentary? 318 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,840 Yeah, I've seen that. Oh God. 319 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,160 OK, I hear. Give it to me, Mike. 320 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,600 I hear the groans. I mean, I have my my own Bruins 321 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,200 and annoyances. Let's talk about it. 322 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:26,280 I mean, I've seen some slingers cards in real life. 323 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,720 I mean, I've been to some, I've checked some out and we've I've 324 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,520 been the after at parties, at after hours clubs that are 325 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,920 geared around swingers. And I mean, I've been to adult 326 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,440 bookstores where there's swingers, swingers rooms and 327 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,920 place and it happens. I mean, it just, it seems like 328 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,960 it's, I don't know if it's exhibitionism or voyeurism or 329 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,680 what it is, but there's a lot of it. 330 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,240 Would you say like that could also maybe be a shift in the 331 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,360 strip club culture? Like do you think that down the 332 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:05,640 line we could see maybe a new change in club etiquette or 333 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,120 merging, you know, the 2 worlds if you will. 334 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:12,080 Like has that even being thought of because of the fact that 335 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,160 again, the adult entertainment industry is a billion dollar 336 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,400 industry. And if you break it down, you 337 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:23,400 know with the. 4000 plus clubs that are probably across, you 338 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,960 know, nationwide. Would you see maybe a change in 339 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,760 like merging those two vices or do you think for safety sake 340 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,800 merging those two worlds to never collide? 341 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,760 I don't know the dancers. I don't know. 342 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,120 I don't know how they would take it. 343 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:44,640 A lot of a lot of dancers are very cool with performing and 344 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,480 putting on a show, but they don't necessarily want to be 345 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,840 involved in what the what couples are doing, what anybody 346 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,400 else is feeling. A lot of them will tell you that 347 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,040 they're a lot of them. They're cool with putting on the 348 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,480 show and being the center of attention and all of that, but 349 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,600 they don't they don't want to, they don't want to be the be be 350 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,320 involved in the in part of the sex or or whatever. 351 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,800 Right. And I'm all about the consent 352 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,000 rules. So even just like, yeah, 353 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,600 ambiance, I feel like I, I'm all for like, hey, if someone is 354 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:24,520 dancing, you know, erotically or not, they're not asking to be 355 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,720 fucked without permission. So I'm all for that. 356 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,720 And so I would say with, you know, there has to be a consent 357 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,760 base with that too. But that I feel that also with 358 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,960 this new, you know, generation that we're moving into with, you 359 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:44,320 know, sexual approach and again, adult entertainment, merging 360 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:49,240 these two, I feel can also maybe be a helpful way for people to 361 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:54,960 have a healthier way of viewing sex and sexual activity. 362 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,240 You know, getting like a section where it's like it's only strip 363 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,920 clubs in the back. And this is where we have like 364 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,000 our swinger mingle area. I think if we were to almost 365 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,840 contain a dual entertainment into one like hub into some of 366 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,640 these States and places, I think it could be something to kind of 367 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,680 boost that extra missing factor, if you will. 368 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,560 Yeah, Yeah, yeah, definitely. And it, it could help engage 369 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,720 everybody. I mean, in some, some states, 370 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,800 there's there's some places that have strong swinger communities 371 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,200 that have kind of done that a little bit like Tampa, Tampa, FL 372 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,240 There's a couple clubs down there that I know of. 373 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,080 There's a couple of pubs in New York that are kind of 374 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:46,320 underground that that do that. I love it. 375 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,240 I mean, I I've like and it's it also just baffles my mind. 376 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,840 And I don't know if that's because now married to a 377 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,800 southern gentleman himself, but as we were just going through 378 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,760 Savannah and Myrtle Beach out of all places, I'm like all these 379 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,360 conservative Bible belt places. I don't I just don't understand 380 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:09,360 this. Like how the hell are you going 381 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:13,240 to be holier than thou? But you guys have all the strip 382 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,320 clubs, and I mean, the CDs, the CDs of the CDs, strip clubs. 383 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:23,000 I don't understand that at all. Like, how could you put so much 384 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,000 restrictions on sex? But yeah, there's like every 385 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,040 hole in the wall. It's like you see a winn-dixie 386 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,840 and then there's that strip shop, there's a strip shack. 387 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,440 Then there's like a nice strip club. 388 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,520 And then there's also another like, CD hole in the wall adult 389 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,400 bookstore. I'm like, wait a second, how? 390 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,840 How could you be praising Jesus saying stop doing all this? 391 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,560 But then I could just go outside 50 feet and there's another 392 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,080 strip club down the street from the church. 393 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,920 Make it make sense. Make it make. 394 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:59,720 Sense it's, it's so operating strip clubs in so many different 395 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,840 states. You know that the place we get 396 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,800 hassled the least is down in the, in the South. 397 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,760 You know, they, they don't bother us whatsoever. 398 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,160 Like Tennessee, Kentucky, we never see the government. 399 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,680 They never bother us. It's hard to open a new strip 400 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,640 club there, but if there's already one that's open, you can 401 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,360 hardly ever see the government. Really. 402 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,120 Yeah, you, they, they don't bother you at all. 403 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:33,720 OK, that that again racking my brain around that because OK, so 404 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,800 you it it would be harder to like you said uproot A newer 405 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,280 strip club, but the older ones you don't pay any attention and 406 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:44,120 like they don't pay any mine now why do you think that they? 407 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:48,000 Don't bother. I don't know, you know, And it's 408 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,760 just, it's so weird because like you got like big cities like 409 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,400 Chicago where you would think that the strip club is 410 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,880 acceptable and not a problem, right? 411 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,880 As long as you pay the taxes in Chicago, they don't bother you. 412 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,120 But I mean, we have more interaction with the government 413 00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:08,360 and in states like Illinois and Chicago than we do in Tennessee. 414 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:12,720 And Tennessee, I think we've seen maybe the police once in 415 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,200 five years. Yeah, they they don't bother us. 416 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,960 I mean they they don't come around or anything. 417 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,480 This makes me angry because again, you put so much 418 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,400 restrictions on sex. All these all these states put 419 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,240 so much restriction on sex. And yet I see more strip clubs 420 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,720 than I do bookstores, libraries, you know, medical facilities, if 421 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,600 you will, all those things. And it's like, yet they deem the 422 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,240 strip club as The Dirty, nasty place. 423 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,800 But we're just not going to touch it. 424 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,880 Just as long as it makes the state money and maybe makes the 425 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,360 mayor happy. Like, come on. 426 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,520 Come on. Now come on, like, something's 427 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,840 got to change. Something's got to change with 428 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,040 that that rhetoric over there, because it just, it confuses the 429 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,120 hell out of me. And yet over here in Lai, feel 430 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:08,360 like even the strip club culture has dwindled. 431 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,080 For me. I think the last time I went to 432 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,160 a strip club, it was maybe about two or three years right before 433 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,080 the pandemic. And I don't know if I just went 434 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,880 on an off night, but Jace, the dancers look bored, the patrons 435 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,120 looked bored. And I was really like, in my 436 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:33,080 head, I'm like, wow, like our, our strip clubs just really that 437 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,760 shitty now you. Know, I thought. 438 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,640 It was like the happening place to go. 439 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,560 It's a lot of people. Have, like I said, the business 440 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,800 model is broke and people have kind of they, they've just kind 441 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,080 of really a lot of people, a lot of the older, the old operators 442 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,880 are still stuck in this whole idea of we're going to open the 443 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,680 door and turn on the music and the people will call they're. 444 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,120 Not trying to like. Throw a party every night. 445 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,160 They're not trying to make sure everybody has fun. 446 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,560 They're not during events. And that's really what you have 447 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,480 to do in 2026. Try to come up with things that 448 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,760 are funny, come up with things to get people's interests, to 449 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,240 get people interested so they come out right, Come out with 450 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,280 the good value and good deals for them to come to the club now 451 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,600 would you say? Influencing I know everybody has 452 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,440 like their own gripes about, you know, influencers and what they 453 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,400 do. I see you eye rolling already. 454 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,400 So like, would you say influencers? 455 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:42,480 Would you ever see maybe a influx of sex influencing, if 456 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,240 you will, if they could, would you want the the influencers in 457 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,160 the club or do you think it would take away again that whole 458 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,440 privacy? Because I would. 459 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,000 I would feel it would. So we we've. 460 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,520 Actually started. We had a couple feature bookings 461 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,680 with feature performers who are influencers. 462 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,680 And they they drew. Huge crowd. 463 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,160 They drew bigger crowds than the biggest porn stars, really. 464 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,200 Yeah, there's a. 11 influencer charm days She's from she's from 465 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,160 San Diego Charm. I think I think her. 466 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,600 I think her. Instagram is what is it, Charm 467 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,360 Charm gets naked. I think is her. 468 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,240 We've had her. We've had her come out to 469 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,440 feature at several places. She always draws a huge crowd. 470 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,920 We had a Casey. Casteel, she's a She dances at a 471 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,400 small club in Florida. She came up to Chicago and she 472 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,080 was a big crowd. Wow. 473 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,440 We've we've. We've been working to merge that 474 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,320 world and. I'm it. 475 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,480 It, it works. I mean, I kind of look at it 476 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,320 like a brand partnership a lot of the time now when they're. 477 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,000 In the club they don't. Really live stream or anything 478 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,920 like that because of the privacy concern of me, right, Right. 479 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,360 And that's where I I, I would a lot of their Oh, I'm sorry, I'm 480 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,640 sorry. No, go ahead. 481 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,200 I was going. To say that's where I. 482 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,120 Would be wary is that that privacy concern? 483 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:10,120 But please go on. You know, and it seems like. 484 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,200 They they have big crowds and it seems like the celebrity of 485 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,280 2026. It seemed like the quickest way 486 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,800 if you want to if you want to write a hit song, the best way 487 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,120 to become a hit songwriter is to get it on TikTok or Instagram. 488 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,960 If you want to be ATV. Star become that make these 489 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,360 little skits online on Instagram and TikTok and then someone will 490 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,360 notice you and you'll be the next Addison Rae. 491 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,360 That's true. That's true and. 492 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,720 It seems it just seems like it. Seems like that's the way it's 493 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,360 going. So that's what we did with the 494 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,400 features because when we, when we book features, we, we were 495 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,240 like, what can we do for influencers? 496 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,120 And we started making influencers the features. 497 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,520 It's that's insane. But at the same time, when you 498 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,520 make that model, it makes sense. It definitely makes sense. 499 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,560 Influencers do put places on the map. 500 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,640 I will say I have like my. I have like a. 501 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,080 Gripe because I would say to myself, sometimes I don't like 502 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,760 to be considered an influencer because I don't feel like I 503 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,000 influence anything or like make people go. 504 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,040 It's just more of like, oh, I would be curious in in going 505 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,520 there, you know, down the line. But also I feel like there's 506 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,920 these like the hierarchy of influencers where it's like, 507 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,000 don't you know who I am and oh, I'm not going to do XYZ. 508 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,680 And that's where it also gets into that great area where you 509 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,880 have the only fan models don't, who don't want to be called porn 510 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,760 stars or adult content creators. And I'm sure there is the same 511 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,120 thing with, you know, like you said, these strip club 512 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:52,680 influencers where they are private dancers, if you will, or 513 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,680 the striptease. They do striptease, burlesque, 514 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,000 whatever, but they don't get fully naked. 515 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,440 So therefore they wouldn't say I'm a stripper. 516 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,680 I'm sure you've probably heard those debates and debacles all 517 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,320 the time. Yeah, I see it every. 518 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:16,120 Day on ads or Instagram where the OF models and the content 519 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,520 creators don't like the don't like the traditional adult porn 520 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,880 stars and vice versa because they both they don't like you, 521 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,960 they don't they don't want to be considered each other. 522 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,240 Now, would you say? There's also the same way with 523 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:36,680 the dancers who only want to be topless versus the fully nude 524 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,360 dancers. Are we seeing a change where 525 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,400 more women rather be topless dancers than fully nude 526 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,080 dressers? I mean dancers that and then. 527 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,760 We have a lot that and then also there's a, there's a, there's a 528 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,120 bunch of dancers these days that they don't want to be touched in 529 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,720 VIP at all. So really they want to sell VIP 530 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,480 dances, but they don't want any, any, any contact. 531 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,240 So let's get into that. VIP dancing as we know, and I 532 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,320 know that for some listeners listening, they're also probably 533 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,040 like, what is the real difference between a bikini bar 534 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,040 versus a nude bar versus a topless bar? 535 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,760 And why is it that I can get alcohol at wine, but I can't get 536 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,480 alcohol at another? So maybe let's let's kind of 537 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,480 break that down. So with. 538 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,400 Alcohol. It just depends what state 539 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,440 you're in and what level of nudity you can show. 540 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,560 Some states feel. Like alcohol and nudity or 541 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,120 alcohol and toplessness are a terrible combination or they'll 542 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,240 results in more crimes. So they regulate, but which is 543 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,120 kind of dumb. But that's, that's what it is. 544 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:57,960 I agree with with VIP dances. So there's when you go in the 545 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,600 strip club, there's floor dances and that's where basically you 546 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,560 pay, it's usually 10 bucks or 20 bucks and you sit in your chair. 547 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,960 And the dancer will basically. Grind on you for one song, 548 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,800 right? And then there's VIP. 549 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:18,120 Dances which? It's 15 minutes. 30 minutes, 60 550 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,400 minutes and you go into a private room. 551 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,800 It's just you and the dancer and she, she grinds on you. 552 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,120 For that amount of time, it's just you and her. 553 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,120 Or you can talk or play video games or video games tell you 554 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,680 about the weather. Wait a second. 555 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,880 Video games. That's another trend that's. 556 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,800 Going on these days, especially that the younger crowd, they 557 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,360 because they're socially awkward, they're willing to come 558 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,160 to the strip club and pay a hot girl to play video games with 559 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,000 them. I'm dead. 560 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,600 I think it comes from all. This Twitch, this Twitch and 561 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,080 streaming where they're conditioned to to interact with 562 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,520 the opposite sex on twitch. You know, all of these, all of 563 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,080 these hot girls are on Twitch and they're like, oh, why should 564 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,040 we play Grand Theft Auto? Or, and you can comment on it or 565 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,960 I think that the young, some of the younger guys are conditioned 566 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,480 to think that that's how you interact. 567 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,880 I mean good. For them as as far as like, you 568 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,159 know, maybe respecting women a little bit better. 569 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,880 Although again, the the whole Twitch community, I mean, this 570 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,520 is the rise of insell behavior where we have, you know, like 571 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,199 you said, men who do not know how to physically talk to women. 572 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,840 So I guess in a way, yeah, you could go into the VIP, you know, 573 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,320 without the switch. I'd rather have a guy without a 574 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,880 switch than to touch me inappropriately, if you will. 575 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,639 I mean if that would help him help me. 576 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,400 So so be. It. 577 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,040 Yeah, and we've. Noticed that. 578 00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,680 I mean, so a lot of the a lot of some dancers too, a lot of the 579 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,760 some dancers they don't want to be touched at all in VIP. 580 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,800 So basically they don't want, they don't want, and not even 581 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,760 inappropriately, they just don't want to be touched at all. 582 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,640 Usually the rule in VIP is. You can touch, but you can't. 583 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,160 You can't touch inappropriately, or you know, you can't sexually 584 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,520 accost anybody, right? Right. 585 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,480 Well, you can. Touch their arm or. 586 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,280 Their leg or their butt or or you can get a handful of boobs 587 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,760 or whatever, right? Like. 588 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,520 But there's some. There's some. 589 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,800 Dancers that don't want any, any contact at all, which I respect. 590 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,880 I mean, hold your ground ladies, you know, and fellas, because 591 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,560 there is the rise of the, you know, female strip club like the 592 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,680 ladies clubs if you will, that is coming back through 593 00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:52,040 resurgence of all the Chippendale esque models, if you 594 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,440 will. I I'm all for it. 595 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,000 It's like you have to respect the guidelines again, even in 596 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,880 the porn world, just because you're talking to these girls 597 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,880 digitally and paying money and going to their feature dancing 598 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,960 or going to the adult conventions, these girls do not 599 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,120 owe you more than what they are providing at the time. 600 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,520 They do and. I mean even. 601 00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:19,840 In the qualities, we have features, I've seen guys, they 602 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,160 come in there and act totally inappropriate. 603 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,640 They think that. You know, so and so is a porn 604 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,520 star and she did all this on film and this is this is how she 605 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,280 is in real life. So I can talk to her, however, 606 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,480 because that's how she portrays herself in these movies. 607 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,680 Exactly. And it's. 608 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,240 Like, you know where they give her inappropriate thanks. 609 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,880 To sign. I. 610 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,760 Saw I. Saw a guy one time, he brought a 611 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,440 poster size. Of a girl of. 612 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,440 A dancer she had she had been in a movie and I guess he had 613 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,080 screenshotted the movie. And it was like a large. 614 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,480 Picture of her butt and her butt was wide open and he wanted her 615 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:08,920 to sign that Sir. Oh. 616 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,600 My God. Yeah, OK, yeah. 617 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,920 That would be in my eyes, just an absolute no, no, like there 618 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,520 are better pictures like I get it. 619 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,720 You love this girl. You might follow her like 620 00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:26,360 they're yes, no, those I would I would automatically not even if 621 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,680 I were, I would be like, fuck that. 622 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,240 I'm not signing it like. I'm not fucking signing that. 623 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,240 Like there's no fucking way I'm selling my gate. 624 00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:39,680 Like again, with own guidelines. If it was my gaping asshole, I'm 625 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,120 not signing that at a club. I'm just not. 626 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,920 I'm not doing it, not doing it at all. 627 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,320 Would you say even just like with this new younger 628 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,280 generation, as you said, you know, people are are coming in, 629 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,480 they're assuming one type of behavior and they're kind of hit 630 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,640 with that realism. Like, hey, these girls are 631 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,480 selling a fantasy. You still have to respect them 632 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,200 at the end of the day. Would you say moving forward, 633 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,640 you know, if there's young guys listening out there right now 634 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,120 and you know, they want to go to the strip club with their boys, 635 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,080 they want to get initiated, if you will, into that boys club, 636 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,280 What would you say moving forward, you just do not want to 637 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,600 see in the strip clubs anymore? Like is there a certain type of 638 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,320 behavior or that type of patron where you're like, I don't need 639 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,560 your fucking money. Just please get. 640 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,560 Just get out of here, you know? Be respectful. 641 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,600 Everybody be respectful of a dancers. 642 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,080 Don't. Don't grab them. 643 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,760 You know, if you're going to, if you're going. 644 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,560 To sit at No, no, you know that the amount of money you spend is 645 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,440 going to really depend on how much of a good time you have if 646 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,720 you want to sit at the stage on the front row. 647 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,720 You'd be prepared to put some. Money on the stage, you know, if 648 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:55,760 you go in instead of the very back, you know, and the shadow, 649 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,760 you can do that and have your have a water and no one's going 650 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,000 to really hassle you, right, right. 651 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,800 But if you're sitting at the. Tip rail on the stage, don't sit 652 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,360 there for two hours and not put any money on the stage. 653 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,040 Oh. Thank you. 654 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,080 You know, yeah. I think people do tend to. 655 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,680 Forget even when they go to these clubs, it's like, yeah, if 656 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,000 you're going to the front of the house spent, you're spending 657 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,440 money, you're not there to just be a spectator. 658 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,960 Like yes, there's the entertainment wall to wall 659 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,440 action going on. But yeah, I agree. 660 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,240 If you're going to sit in the front row, if you're going to 661 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,000 sit by the tip reel, you can't just give a dollar here and 662 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,400 there. You you can't do that. 663 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,640 And you know a lot. Of the time and sometimes 664 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,680 there's complaints that someone's like well this dancer 665 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,840 is mean and this dancer is mean and you're like why well. 666 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,960 They didn't talk to. Me or they wouldn't talk to me. 667 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,480 And I'm always like, well, did you? 668 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,280 Did you give them any money to sit with? 669 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:57,840 You? Did, Howard. 670 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,920 Oh, they sat with you for 20 minutes and you didn't buy them 671 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,080 a drink? You know, it's how much 672 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:09,160 attention they give you is going to be really hand in hand with 673 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,800 where if you're going to, if you're buying a drink, we're 674 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,600 going right if you're giving them a couple of dollars to sit 675 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,280 with you. I mean, and because the guys 676 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,880 that come to the clubs. And they, they, they. 677 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,680 Like a specific girl or they like a specific kind of dancer. 678 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,320 They, they know, they know, they know. 679 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,120 And so they're going to buy her a drink to sit with them. 680 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,200 You know they're not going to expect her. 681 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,280 To sit there for two hours and listen to you talk about your 682 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,760 boat for nothing, That's true. It is. 683 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,120 It's a power dynamic. It's a power exchange. 684 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,880 You spend, you pay the money for the service that you want. 685 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,720 Yeah. And I think we do. 686 00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:57,680 Tend to forget that that again, they are doing a job for money, 687 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,760 the money that you are coming in with or supposed to have with. 688 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:05,360 You know you can't just come in asking for discounts. 689 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,000 I've heard so many girls where they're in the middle of a lap 690 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,680 dance and guys are asking the girls to give them discounts. 691 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,320 I'm like the fuck? What do you mean? 692 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:23,320 Discounts like I, I think one of my friends said a guy, I guess 693 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,400 it was like his birthday or he was being initiated into a frat 694 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,240 and he's like, yeah, you know, you know how it is being a 695 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:32,120 student. I'm sure you, you understand, 696 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,720 you're probably a student. Like do you offer student 697 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:37,440 discounts? And she's like, what? 698 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,920 What do you mean you're going to just flash your college ID and 699 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,080 I'm just going to give you a chance for $50. 700 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,320 That's not how this works. We might have college. 701 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,920 I think what it was like they said if you get in with your 702 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,280 college ID, you you know, you got his percentage off or you 703 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,200 got him for free. So he figured, oh, I could 704 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,920 probably flash this baby all night and get discounts within 705 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,400 the club. I'm like, no what? 706 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,720 Like what? I mean it. 707 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,680 It's it's just like anything else. 708 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,360 You can go, you can go to a baseball game and if you can pay 709 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,320 $10 and sit in general admission way at the very top of the 710 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,240 stadium, or you can pay a couple 100 bucks and sit on the front 711 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:25,040 row and be able to see the people when they come. 712 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,040 I mean, be right, be right in the middle of the game, the 713 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,480 strip. Club is no different you. 714 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,560 Know you can. You can. 715 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,520 You can pay 10 bucks and get a $0.50 hot dog and sit at the 716 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,240 very, very top. But if you want to have a better 717 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,520 time, you got to pay a little more and you can sit in the 718 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,320 better seats and eat a better meal. 719 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,400 Now let's. Talk also about those meals. 720 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,720 I mean, everybody tells me, you know a good strip club when you 721 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:51,280 see the the meal spread out. Is that true? 722 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,720 Sometimes, yeah. Most of them have good steaks. 723 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,240 Most of them have good buffets. You know the the ones down South 724 00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:05,000 usually have good wings. Do you have? 725 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,080 Any of. Of like your top tier clubs that 726 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,240 you guys provide because again, you the pony, especially like 727 00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:13,640 you said, like we've been saying, it is the chain. 728 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,840 So is there like one of the clubs that you own currently 729 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,760 where you're like, you just got to go for the wings, Fuck the 730 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,520 entertainment. Come for the wings. 731 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,000 Yeah, yeah, the wings are. Always graded to Admiral at the 732 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,240 Admiral let's. Talk about that now. 733 00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:33,160 The Admiral Chicago has been going under some changes, right? 734 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,440 Yeah, we took that over about. A year and a half ago. 735 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,880 So what are you bringing? Different for folks in Chicago 736 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,240 now. Like what? 737 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,320 What should we expect from the Admiral now moving forward? 738 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,320 That you know the pony has sunk their teeth in, if they will. 739 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,520 We really upgraded the. Sound system and the light 740 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,440 system to try to give the guests a better experience for that. 741 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,200 We've definitely. Hanford We definitely have 742 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:06,000 hunkered down and, and hit the customer service so that people 743 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,880 people are greeted and have a good time. 744 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,600 And then we've just kind of done a steady stream of doing viral 745 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,000 events and events that get traction on social media and on 746 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,720 the news and always trying to find way to get attention. 747 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,920 What's been the best and? Viral moment so far for the 748 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,800 Admiral. Oh shoot, let me. 749 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,000 See. We had the Sydney Sweens. 750 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,160 Great jeans contest when all of that controversy was going on 751 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:38,360 last year. What we got in the middle? 752 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,560 Of that, yeah, We got in the middle of that where we had, we 753 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:43,720 had a. Contest for. 754 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,120 Whoever had the best, the best jeans and Farrah Abraham from 755 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,920 Teen Mom came and hosted it. It was a great, great night. 756 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,120 We we got in the middle. Of when Hooters When Hooters 757 00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:01,040 declared bankruptcy last year, we made a big job offer for any 758 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,240 waitresses that lost their job to come work at Admiral and we 759 00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:06,640 give them a $10,000 sign on bonus. 760 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,200 Wow. Wow. 761 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,320 Oh. My goodness. 762 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:17,600 You know, you remind me a little bit of my old boss from Vivid, 763 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,720 Steven Hirsch. You, you kind of have you have 764 00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,600 the kind of model because he would do something similar. 765 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,280 Again, Vivid was viral for the moment, being like the hub of 766 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,680 celebrity sex tapes. And, you know, when there was 767 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,240 controversy, Hirsch would be all over it. 768 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,760 So the fact that you're offering bonuses, they would do that. 769 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,360 Like I'm trying to remember if it was the Lamar Odom, like the 770 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,720 first scandal with the Bunny Ranch or if it was also with 771 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:53,120 Farrah Abraham with Teen Mom. It's like he offered so much 772 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,000 beyond the sex tape where it was like any Teen Mom can get, you 773 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,440 know, a sign on deal or, you know, we'll, we'll throw in that 774 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:05,280 that $10,000 incentive just because of XYZ or because 775 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,880 somebody went unemployed. I I kind of like that you, 776 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,600 again, you're trying to mix in the mainstream with this 777 00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:17,160 underground stream of sex work, if you will. 778 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:18,360 Yeah. I. 779 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:19,680 Like. It. 780 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,520 Money. We're always trying to. 781 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,800 Do things like that. I love it. 782 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,320 So would you say there's like the ones things again, we've 783 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,520 talked about, you know, with AI and everything, it goes without 784 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,280 saying you're not going to invest with the Admiral and 785 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,480 having these robotic strippers. Right, we're we're. 786 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,160 Not going to see stripper robots anytime soon. 787 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,000 No, we got they, got they. Need to do some more work on 788 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,680 that. I've seen some of those, but 789 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,840 still a little. There's still a little 790 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,040 Terminator like to me. Way too Terminator for me. 791 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,240 Way too Terminator. I love it. 792 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,760 So is there like, are we thinking like the pony can go 793 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,040 international anytime soon? Have there been discussions? 794 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,320 I hope so. I hope we can find. 795 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,840 Some stuff for sale, really. Because they're like a one place 796 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,520 where anytime there's. Anytime there's something for. 797 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,560 Sale, we're trying to. Find it or get involved. 798 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,160 In it before, before somebody else buys it. 799 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:22,000 I mean, it's a good time right now because a lot of a lot of 800 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,760 the people that don't have to own these clubs forever are 801 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,840 getting pushed to retirement age or they're tired of it. 802 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,800 So that's a good time for us to come in. 803 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,000 I love it. I kind of like this whole 804 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,240 business out that you have and I would only hope that, you know, 805 00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:40,920 down the line we could see more of this. 806 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,880 I don't want to say like conglomeration, but definitely 807 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,240 just a Better Business model for, you know, the sex industry, 808 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:52,080 especially when it comes to you club experiences, real 809 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,880 experiences, because again, the adult industry is always growing 810 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,880 and evolving. But I think what you got here is 811 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,280 a solid model for, you know, perspectives out there to be 812 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,120 like, like, you know what, maybe we should protect our dancers a 813 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,920 little bit more and instead of just having these individually 814 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,600 owned clubs have like this protected market, if you will, 815 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,760 definitely. You know, have a have structure 816 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,800 and professionalism in a way that everything works together. 817 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,920 You know, we, we really invest a lot in the people that we have 818 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,320 running these clubs. They're really the backbone of 819 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,000 it all. And I think we probably. 820 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,000 Have more female general managers than any other company 821 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,320 just because they. They they do the job A. 822 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:43,000 Lot better, yes. Yes, you know, I'm, I'm all for 823 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,680 that. And I was going to ask you if, 824 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,840 you know, are we seeing a shift in women controlled businesses, 825 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,200 especially in strip clubs? I feel like, you know, for the 826 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:57,640 longest, I don't think I've ever really known of a female owned 827 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:02,280 and operated strip joint ever. Yeah, I, I don't. 828 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,640 Know of any of her own I know I know a couple that are ran by 829 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:10,240 women usually they've I think there's cheerleaders in in 830 00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:13,880 Philadelphia the the lady that owns that her father passed away 831 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,200 and she runs it and. Then I believe there's a famous. 832 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,600 Club in Dallas, TX the lodge that I. 833 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,560 Think Dawn Reefus. Owns that she's great, but we 834 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,000 have so many great women and the pony that actually are out there 835 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,880 every night and the and the GM spot running the clubs and they 836 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,560 just they know they can relate to the dancers better. 837 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,160 They can they can execute better. 838 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,200 They just, they just are overall better a lot of most of the time 839 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,880 right as ladies. We'll be getting it done like we 840 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,680 don't we don't play about our money, don't play women about 841 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,920 their money. And especially when we are the 842 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,640 service providers, you got to respect the ladies. 843 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,440 Let the women handle the business. 844 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,520 I, I always say it, I think there should be more women out 845 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,040 there protecting women, especially in sex work. 846 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,000 We need to see some more boss females. 847 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,720 So I love that you are providing that and giving that 848 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:11,480 opportunity. And if I'm not mistaken, as 849 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,320 we're in wrapping, you guys are currently hiring at several 850 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,560 locations, correct? We are always looking for. 851 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,160 Great new people, they're doing this. 852 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,640 I mean, if you're out there and. You're you're a dancer now, a 853 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,040 former dancer, a bartender if you. 854 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,000 Let us know. We'll, we'll. 855 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,760 We'll find a spot for you, and you'll be. 856 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,480 You'll be a star I. Love it, I love it. 857 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,600 And you can visit the Pony Club and check out where all the Pony 858 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,360 clubs are located at ponyclubs.com. 859 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,840 They have a list. A list is long. 860 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,440 I'm over here like I definitely need to go next time I'm back 861 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,640 out in Kentucky. I definitely want to check out 862 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,680 some of those locations and especially in Chicago. 863 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,360 Now, Mike, where can people get in touch with you and find you 864 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,480 personally? They can hit me on. 865 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:07,280 Instagram or X? That I am Mr. Mike B or. 866 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,600 They can e-mail me, Mike. At ponyclubs.com. 867 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,200 All right, we're going to make sure. 868 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,160 People get ahold of you, Mike. I want to go to the club. 869 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,080 I'm going to hit you up and be like I, I need you to show me 870 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:23,280 anytime I want to come out. All right, y'all so you. 871 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,800 Know what you got to do is spend that money, but you also you pay 872 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,160 for what you want out of the experience. 873 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,360 So you know Mike, I got to say thank you for just sitting down 874 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,320 and giving me The Dirty on the pony. 875 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,480 I'm going to be looking out for you guys and of course you come 876 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:39,400 back sometime. Oh. 877 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,880 Hell yes. And of course, you guys can 878 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,840 follow me at Miz Radio Sapphire. That's MSRADIOSAPPHIRE, that's 879 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,480 Miz Radio sapphire.com and of course on Instagram at Miz Radio 880 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,080 Sapphire. And remember y'all that safe sex 881 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,560 is the best hot sex. Until next time, good night. 882 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,360 That was the show. All you sexy motherfuckers out 883 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,240 there, remember to follow at Me's Radio Sapphire and 884 00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:08,400 Sapphire's earplay on Instagram. Want some eargasms of the past 885 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,200 and future? Make sure to follow on Apple 886 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,400 Podcast, Spotify, iHeartRadio and all streaming platforms.