1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,600 In US and so and he's surrounded with a lot of scientific, 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,280 scientific community in US is kind of huge if you compare with 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,680 the scale in Europe. So he has the luxury to all the 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,440 testing in the lab. Yeah. 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:24,360 So this is really so everything what he does is backed by 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,240 scientific data thanks to the US labs. 7 00:00:39,810 --> 00:00:42,690 Welcome everyone to another episode of Kunotalk. 8 00:00:43,050 --> 00:00:45,930 And today we actually have some scent talk. 9 00:00:45,930 --> 00:00:51,690 I have Gregory Eran with me from Get Sent. 10 00:00:51,930 --> 00:00:55,490 I hope I didn't pronounce it in almost unacceptable way. 11 00:00:56,410 --> 00:01:01,200 We got in touch with Greg. A few weeks ago already and 12 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,120 since we had some questions about get sent tubings for sent 13 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:10,400 detection as a training aid and we had some e-mail conversation, 14 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,160 Greg and Chris, Chris did the start, then we had a meeting 15 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:21,200 online and meanwhile we are their partners in Austria to do 16 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,800 the selling of Get sent. Of course we have already. 17 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,920 Tested the product ourselves. Actually, we know it for quite 18 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:35,040 some time now, and we were skeptical in the very beginning 19 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:40,240 because we know different training aids and we have always 20 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,280 preferred to work with the real scent. 21 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:48,280 But throughout the conversation, we got more and more. 22 00:01:50,230 --> 00:01:52,590 Yeah. And interested in the product. 23 00:01:52,590 --> 00:01:56,830 So we bought it, we tested it and now we also sell it and help 24 00:01:56,830 --> 00:02:01,070 others to train with it. But I already get too deep into 25 00:02:01,110 --> 00:02:03,110 the into the talk. Greg, good morning. 26 00:02:03,110 --> 00:02:04,910 Thank you very much for taking the time. 27 00:02:05,070 --> 00:02:08,750 How are you doing today? Good morning, everyone. 28 00:02:09,030 --> 00:02:13,990 I'm really good and so I'm looking forward to discuss more 29 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:15,950 about Gets and during this podcast. 30 00:02:16,190 --> 00:02:23,090 So yeah, I'm super happy. So Greg, to, to let the others 31 00:02:23,090 --> 00:02:27,290 know, your, your name sounds French, but you're from the 32 00:02:27,290 --> 00:02:29,090 French part of Switzerland, right? 33 00:02:29,810 --> 00:02:32,210 Yeah. So initially, you know, I grew 34 00:02:32,250 --> 00:02:36,130 up in France and I moved like more than 10 years ago in the 35 00:02:36,170 --> 00:02:39,410 French part of Switzerland. So now we can say that I'm 36 00:02:39,450 --> 00:02:42,810 Swiss, you know? OK, great. 37 00:02:43,450 --> 00:02:49,510 And how was it But get extend. The company get send is not your 38 00:02:50,310 --> 00:02:53,310 not what you started with and can you tell us a little bit 39 00:02:53,710 --> 00:02:57,790 about your way of profession and how get Send was found. 40 00:02:58,910 --> 00:03:03,750 Yeah, so since I'm student, I created my first company called 41 00:03:03,750 --> 00:03:06,910 Biodesive. And in Biodesive what we do, we 42 00:03:06,910 --> 00:03:11,070 do material research for everyone, for a lot of different 43 00:03:11,070 --> 00:03:15,350 companies and but we keep time for for us to do, to do our own 44 00:03:15,390 --> 00:03:20,800 research and development. And like it was now like almost 45 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,520 10 years ago, we met like dog trainers. 46 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,320 And yes, they told us that yeah, I would like to train my dog on 47 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,840 a real loader, but I don't have access to the real loader or 48 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,120 it's not safe. I cannot go in the airport. 49 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:44,120 I cannot go in the train station with the real material and with 50 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,650 also big quantities. So they told us that yeah, we in 51 00:03:48,650 --> 00:03:52,450 the past we are using like cotton goats, like cotton ball 52 00:03:52,450 --> 00:03:55,610 and Q-tips and all this kind of stuff. 53 00:03:56,290 --> 00:03:59,570 And they told us that their dog, we are losing their performance. 54 00:04:00,010 --> 00:04:04,570 So because using this kind of material and we said, yeah, it's 55 00:04:04,570 --> 00:04:07,930 normal because you know, we are as I am a material scientist. 56 00:04:08,210 --> 00:04:12,250 So for us it was like obvious because those material cannot 57 00:04:12,250 --> 00:04:15,780 catch all the molecules and everything started from there 58 00:04:15,820 --> 00:04:21,820 and as this like it was in 2014 and we we started our own 59 00:04:21,820 --> 00:04:25,620 research and development and four years later we we got our 60 00:04:25,620 --> 00:04:28,260 first patterns about get some technology. 61 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:32,620 Wow. And and now you you do this 62 00:04:32,620 --> 00:04:37,500 worldwide right, exactly. So now we we spin off you know 63 00:04:38,020 --> 00:04:41,220 from our initial company get sent in 2020. 64 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,560 So we we incorporated the company in Switzerland and now 65 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,160 we sell like in more than 40 countries around the world. 66 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:55,320 We've a strong focus on North America and Australia as well, 67 00:04:55,320 --> 00:05:00,240 New Zealand also in South Africa, but obviously. 68 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:05,560 In Europe and Switzerland, so I know that in the States there is 69 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,360 sometimes. A legal matter. 70 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,040 And do they accept these tubings as training aids or because 71 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,240 there are some others that they don't accept for police and 72 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,120 military? As far as I know, they accept it 73 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,320 because they order tubes. So yeah, and also in terms of 74 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:29,320 regulation, you catch only others and so you can travel 75 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,240 with the tubes. There is no restriction. 76 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,320 I already crossed the ocean from Switzerland to US with get and 77 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:41,350 tubes with like TTP order ones. So everything is fine because 78 00:05:41,350 --> 00:05:44,030 you catch only the order is not is not harmful. 79 00:05:44,350 --> 00:05:48,470 It's not like there is no explosive on it and saying for 80 00:05:48,470 --> 00:05:57,750 drugs and other type of target. So talking about materials and 81 00:05:57,750 --> 00:06:02,390 the sign of materials, there is still a big gap to odors. 82 00:06:02,390 --> 00:06:05,550 So how? How did you work yourself into 83 00:06:05,550 --> 00:06:07,340 the? Subject of orders. 84 00:06:08,220 --> 00:06:13,380 You know if I summarize it like it's others, it's like I would 85 00:06:13,380 --> 00:06:16,700 say polar molecules and our polar molecules and the goal was 86 00:06:16,700 --> 00:06:20,460 to make in one material two things that kind of opposite. 87 00:06:21,180 --> 00:06:26,780 But with my with Quentin, with like the inventor of get and 88 00:06:27,180 --> 00:06:32,700 technology, with me we had the ID to use like what we are using 89 00:06:32,820 --> 00:06:36,280 while we are kids, it's Lego. So what we took, we took blocks 90 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,920 and we put blocks together. So it's kind of Lego. 91 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,240 So it's just after it's sentences and so on. 92 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,200 But at the beginning it's just the idea to bring polar blocks 93 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,120 and polar blocks and to put it together. 94 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,800 And this is called if I make it, I say differently it's we take 95 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,320 positive blocks and negative blocks and with that you can 96 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,480 attract all the volatiles. So it was the idea behind and we 97 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,410 made it happen. And yeah, it's just, you know, 98 00:07:05,770 --> 00:07:10,250 sometimes you come back to your childhood and you have ideas 99 00:07:10,570 --> 00:07:13,770 because it's all about invention, about creativity. 100 00:07:14,690 --> 00:07:19,050 And yeah, we made it like that. So a bit of childhood, a bit of 101 00:07:19,090 --> 00:07:22,570 current knowledge and we bring everything together to create a 102 00:07:22,570 --> 00:07:25,090 get and technology. That's really fun. 103 00:07:27,330 --> 00:07:30,490 A question that I always ask myself is the shape. 104 00:07:30,490 --> 00:07:33,620 How does the shape? Evolve. 105 00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:37,180 So why is it a tube to? To gain the the biggest possible 106 00:07:37,180 --> 00:07:42,140 surface area to Yeah, it's one of the reasons at the beginning 107 00:07:42,140 --> 00:07:47,580 we were afraid about pollution. It was like for us, like a big a 108 00:07:47,580 --> 00:07:50,340 big thing for us and how we can avoid pollution. 109 00:07:50,900 --> 00:07:54,860 And our idea was to make a tubing because we wanted only 110 00:07:54,860 --> 00:07:59,090 one line of contact with with like the ground, with any 111 00:07:59,090 --> 00:08:01,410 surface that you will lay the tube on. 112 00:08:02,610 --> 00:08:07,250 So it's why it's it's like a tube shape and also we remove 113 00:08:07,290 --> 00:08:10,490 the material inside as you said to have like a bigger surface 114 00:08:10,570 --> 00:08:14,450 area. So this was the idea and also 115 00:08:14,450 --> 00:08:18,890 like in Europe we knew that some people were using like other 116 00:08:18,890 --> 00:08:21,810 training yet already in those shape and we didn't want to 117 00:08:21,810 --> 00:08:25,610 change the habits of people. So it's why also we we remain. 118 00:08:27,140 --> 00:08:31,620 Yeah, that's very interesting and we'll also get to could to 119 00:08:31,620 --> 00:08:37,179 the difference between different producers a little later on. 120 00:08:40,260 --> 00:08:42,380 But for now we we we stay with that. 121 00:08:42,380 --> 00:08:48,660 So the the shape why? Because sometimes we incent 122 00:08:48,660 --> 00:08:52,420 detection we always or many times we face the problem that 123 00:08:52,420 --> 00:08:54,760 we. Constantly trained with too 124 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,760 little amount of odors. Was there a thought sometimes to 125 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:06,520 have this jumbo get sent pipe or that or or is it not necessary 126 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,560 or do you say that also the small tubes can contain a lot of 127 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:12,680 scent that will be released to the docks nose. 128 00:09:13,340 --> 00:09:17,540 So yeah so because with this the size was not an issue to to 129 00:09:17,540 --> 00:09:19,540 release like huge amount of other. 130 00:09:20,020 --> 00:09:23,820 So I can tell you with gate and tubes you can simulate tons of 131 00:09:23,820 --> 00:09:25,660 explosives with one gate and tube. 132 00:09:26,820 --> 00:09:29,020 So the material has the capability. 133 00:09:29,220 --> 00:09:32,300 We are talking about molecules. It's like tiny things that we 134 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:35,540 cannot see. So and the capacity of the 135 00:09:35,540 --> 00:09:37,460 storage capacity of the tube is huge. 136 00:09:38,380 --> 00:09:41,180 It can store like four times its own weight. 137 00:09:41,460 --> 00:09:45,500 So it can be like it can be big, really big. 138 00:09:45,940 --> 00:09:50,260 And so yeah, the capacity we don't need to have like a big 139 00:09:50,260 --> 00:09:54,740 jumbo 2. Okay for style, yes, okay for 140 00:09:54,780 --> 00:09:57,220 design. But for training purpose it 141 00:09:57,220 --> 00:10:00,100 doesn't make sense because this one can catch like a lot of a 142 00:10:00,420 --> 00:10:04,140 lot of other. So yeah, so it's why it doesn't 143 00:10:04,140 --> 00:10:06,420 make sense and it will cost too much. 144 00:10:06,860 --> 00:10:08,580 So we on top. It doesn't make sense here. 145 00:10:09,780 --> 00:10:14,020 So let's stick to that. Maybe you can describe the the 146 00:10:14,100 --> 00:10:18,460 blank tubing because we can buy different kinds of tubes. 147 00:10:18,460 --> 00:10:22,380 We have the, I say the the contaminated tubes with target 148 00:10:22,380 --> 00:10:25,940 orders and we have blank tubes to to use for ourselves. 149 00:10:27,900 --> 00:10:30,620 What are the the characteristics of a blank tube? 150 00:10:30,620 --> 00:10:37,900 Yeah, the blank tubes today in the operational conditions can 151 00:10:38,060 --> 00:10:42,700 can be impregnated with any target material. 152 00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:48,980 For example, we take TATP, you put the TATP plus the blank tube 153 00:10:49,180 --> 00:10:51,580 in the glass jar. You close the jar, you wait 154 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:54,220 more, you wait more. You will get in terms of 155 00:10:54,220 --> 00:11:00,140 concentration what we we say if you have the right setting, with 156 00:11:00,260 --> 00:11:03,380 one day you will get exactly the same amount of TATP. 157 00:11:04,300 --> 00:11:07,780 You wait two days, you will get twice the amount. 158 00:11:08,340 --> 00:11:10,820 So imagine you have access to only 100 gram. 159 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:18,340 In 10 days you will get 1KG, in 100 days you will you will get 160 00:11:18,340 --> 00:11:23,940 like 10 kg. So you see it's like it's and 161 00:11:23,940 --> 00:11:27,220 you can even if you do it like during several years you can get 162 00:11:27,260 --> 00:11:28,740 a ton. You know what I mean? 163 00:11:30,170 --> 00:11:34,130 But it's really hard to grasp the the idea because we can't 164 00:11:34,130 --> 00:11:37,970 see it, we can't smell it. So but you can't wait it. 165 00:11:37,970 --> 00:11:44,730 If you do it on the short amount of time, it's like milli or even 166 00:11:44,730 --> 00:11:49,730 below milligrams of other, but for a long time, a very long 167 00:11:49,730 --> 00:11:52,730 impression time. You will see that the tube is 168 00:11:52,730 --> 00:11:56,330 gaining weight. We have like special equipment 169 00:11:56,330 --> 00:12:01,230 in our lab, what we call thermal gravimetry analysis and now we 170 00:12:01,350 --> 00:12:05,030 are we are going to release more data on that and it's measured 171 00:12:05,030 --> 00:12:08,150 really accurately the weight and you see on the gates and tubes 172 00:12:08,790 --> 00:12:12,310 you do your, your loading, your own predation and over time you 173 00:12:12,310 --> 00:12:17,950 see the weights which weight is released and and this is we will 174 00:12:17,990 --> 00:12:21,830 publish the data on our side soon to show you that there is a 175 00:12:22,630 --> 00:12:25,670 weight gain and also a release of the weight. 176 00:12:26,470 --> 00:12:31,550 So this is just to make it because we use like Gcms also to 177 00:12:31,910 --> 00:12:35,350 like chromatography but to show you what is inside. 178 00:12:35,670 --> 00:12:39,470 But now we would like also to bring data to show you how is 179 00:12:39,470 --> 00:12:42,230 the release, how much weight you can gain. 180 00:12:42,550 --> 00:12:44,630 So and all these data will be published. 181 00:12:44,750 --> 00:12:48,910 So we have like a big project walking in the background. 182 00:12:50,070 --> 00:12:54,070 That's really cool and we are really interested into reading 183 00:12:54,070 --> 00:12:59,440 that. So when we do the how to say it 184 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:05,800 when we imprint the tubings you told us in our video call that 185 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,600 it's smart to not have contact between the source and the tube. 186 00:13:12,680 --> 00:13:17,080 Why is that? You know contact is not is not a 187 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:22,040 big deal, you can have it but we don't recommend having a contact 188 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,780 because if you do a contact you have like a solid solid contact. 189 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:31,020 So in that case it's difficult to get the gas going around as a 190 00:13:31,020 --> 00:13:33,020 tube. So you you I would say you 191 00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:37,620 shadow one part of the tube so it means that the the molecules 192 00:13:37,660 --> 00:13:40,780 can be catch on the available surface. 193 00:13:41,140 --> 00:13:44,940 So it's why you don't optimize your infregnation. 194 00:13:45,260 --> 00:13:49,180 So it's why we we recommend not having like any contact. 195 00:13:49,580 --> 00:13:51,220 But in some cases you have no choice. 196 00:13:51,340 --> 00:13:53,180 You have to have a contact. It's fine. 197 00:13:54,110 --> 00:13:59,670 Because I I thought about putting it on on the kind of a 198 00:13:59,670 --> 00:14:04,150 string to have it like a necklace and hang it in in the 199 00:14:04,150 --> 00:14:07,470 odor. I just worried that I would 200 00:14:07,590 --> 00:14:11,470 contaminate it with so many different odors while while 201 00:14:11,910 --> 00:14:16,590 putting it on. Or do you have a tip so we use 202 00:14:16,590 --> 00:14:21,390 like metal wire as well for some specific impregnation and in 203 00:14:21,390 --> 00:14:26,190 that case we use uncoated metal wire to avoid any pollution from 204 00:14:26,190 --> 00:14:31,350 like the coating on the surface. So and uncoated metal wire you 205 00:14:31,630 --> 00:14:37,390 you can clinic with with ethanol and after we do like U shape but 206 00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:42,310 at the opposite you know and you can slide the tube on EU so you 207 00:14:42,310 --> 00:14:45,910 have a minimum contact with with the metal wire. 208 00:14:46,190 --> 00:14:50,150 Sure, this works pretty well. Yeah, that's that's good. 209 00:14:51,150 --> 00:14:56,070 That's really interesting. I really liked the description 210 00:14:56,190 --> 00:15:00,510 that you had about the tubes that we could picture it like a 211 00:15:00,510 --> 00:15:07,830 sponge that is taking like a liquid, the Deodor, but. 212 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,400 My question was, and you somehow already answered parts of it and 213 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,880 is it constantly covered or are there can we think that there 214 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,800 are parts of the tube that are having more molecules on it than 215 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:26,000 other parts? I asked this because we were 216 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:32,480 thinking about having tubes and and work with the tubes as we do 217 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,720 it with Kong for example, and we cut the Kong in little pieces. 218 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:40,260 So we were wondering if it's. Maybe it's not smart, but maybe 219 00:15:40,260 --> 00:15:43,260 somehow it's just the only way to get a hiding place. 220 00:15:43,740 --> 00:15:47,900 Can we cut the tube and can we think that there is the constant 221 00:15:49,460 --> 00:15:53,540 amount of odor on it? You know the homogeneity of the 222 00:15:53,540 --> 00:15:55,220 tube. It depends on which scale you 223 00:15:55,220 --> 00:15:56,300 are looking for. You are looking. 224 00:15:57,650 --> 00:16:00,850 We don't recommend cutting the tube if you want to do 225 00:16:01,250 --> 00:16:03,810 impregnation imprinting on the new order. 226 00:16:04,650 --> 00:16:09,530 If it's just a matter of playing the door to have a bit of order 227 00:16:10,410 --> 00:16:14,090 at the beginning of the training, this is fine. 228 00:16:14,450 --> 00:16:19,850 You can cut it, but when you cut the tube you lose a part of the 229 00:16:20,690 --> 00:16:24,380 Spectra of the order. So it means that instead of 230 00:16:24,380 --> 00:16:27,980 having all other molecules you have some the dog. 231 00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:30,460 They are really good, they will eat the tube for sure. 232 00:16:30,740 --> 00:16:34,220 But if it's an imprinting phase where you have to be super 233 00:16:34,260 --> 00:16:38,580 accurate because you want the dog to learn the right thing, I 234 00:16:38,580 --> 00:16:41,180 don't recommend to cut. But if it's something it's a 235 00:16:41,180 --> 00:16:44,220 more playing things like what you we've gone get the beginning 236 00:16:45,100 --> 00:16:48,460 when you want to to create dry when you want to create like a 237 00:16:48,860 --> 00:16:52,250 habit for the dog how to search and some this is fine you know 238 00:16:52,250 --> 00:16:56,730 it depends on what to do is what the get and is used like at 239 00:16:56,730 --> 00:16:58,650 several stage of the training phases. 240 00:16:59,130 --> 00:17:03,170 So it's why it depends where you are in your training phase. 241 00:17:03,770 --> 00:17:06,930 I know that it's not like a sharp answer, but. 242 00:17:07,450 --> 00:17:12,369 Yeah, no, but it makes sense. It totally makes sense to gain 243 00:17:12,369 --> 00:17:16,810 the whole palette of the curators. 244 00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:20,390 Yeah, that makes state that makes a lot of sense. 245 00:17:20,430 --> 00:17:24,670 And actually then it also makes sense to later on to add it to 246 00:17:24,670 --> 00:17:29,070 your progression plan to cut the tubes to on purpose and reduce 247 00:17:29,070 --> 00:17:32,110 the amount of molecules for the dogs. 248 00:17:32,790 --> 00:17:35,390 You can reduce the amount of molecules by reducing the 249 00:17:35,390 --> 00:17:40,710 impregnation time, but the size too big if you want to to train 250 00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:45,050 like really accurate path of search and so and so yeah, so 251 00:17:45,050 --> 00:17:49,330 maybe someday we will sell like a powder of gates and tubes that 252 00:17:49,330 --> 00:17:55,250 you can put like in every small yeah old sensor. 253 00:17:55,890 --> 00:18:02,290 I would really like to have some kind of Jelly to. 254 00:18:02,930 --> 00:18:05,810 Smear it somewhere, for example. That would be really cool. 255 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,520 Powder is, you know, maybe it's already in our research and 256 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,480 development plan. I cannot tell you more. 257 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:28,640 Okay okay good. So the last week I or the last 258 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,160 few weeks I did some training with my malinois who is actually 259 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,060 a bed bug detection doggate but. As our dogs are always 260 00:18:36,820 --> 00:18:40,900 mistreated as our demonstration and project dogs and he's now 261 00:18:40,900 --> 00:18:50,660 also trained on gun shot residuals Schmauch in German and 262 00:18:51,140 --> 00:18:52,820 to become a firearm detection K9. 263 00:18:53,180 --> 00:18:58,940 So we we trained a lot with shot away shells and different kinds 264 00:18:58,940 --> 00:19:02,460 of calibers and different kind of ammunition etc. 265 00:19:03,050 --> 00:19:07,090 And of course then I got the the the fresh get sent back put it 266 00:19:07,090 --> 00:19:13,130 in the lineup amongst different kinds of distractors and it 267 00:19:13,130 --> 00:19:15,850 worked. So it was, I was really, I was 268 00:19:15,850 --> 00:19:21,010 really happy about that because and those odors that you that 269 00:19:21,010 --> 00:19:25,090 you sell on your website and they got impregnated by an 270 00:19:25,090 --> 00:19:27,930 American company, right, Exactly. 271 00:19:28,570 --> 00:19:32,210 So we work a lot with precision explosives in US. 272 00:19:33,060 --> 00:19:35,100 So we do all the information for us. 273 00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:39,460 We have a license to work with explosives, but also we have a 274 00:19:39,460 --> 00:19:43,100 DEA license to work with narcotics. 275 00:19:43,100 --> 00:19:46,900 So this is. So we do the implementation for 276 00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:52,420 us right now, yeah. Are they also, please forgive 277 00:19:52,420 --> 00:19:58,260 me, maybe my me not knowing it, but are they a scientific 278 00:19:58,260 --> 00:20:00,780 company or do they just train dogs? 279 00:20:02,270 --> 00:20:07,310 So the owner of like of the they are two owners of the company 280 00:20:07,310 --> 00:20:12,190 and they have like extensive knowledge on bombs initially. 281 00:20:12,270 --> 00:20:15,510 It's also your company. No, it's not my company Okay. 282 00:20:15,670 --> 00:20:19,670 This is the 2 owners I would say in the US So we have like a 283 00:20:19,670 --> 00:20:24,910 strong knowledge about bombs. One of the founder was like a 284 00:20:24,910 --> 00:20:29,440 bomb tech. He worked like for many agencies 285 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:36,160 in US and so and he's surrounded with a lot of of scientific, 286 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,800 scientific community in US is kind of huge if you compare with 287 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,120 the scale in Europe. So he has the luxury to do all 288 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:49,560 the testing in the lab. Yeah, so this is really so 289 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,880 everything. What he does is backed by 290 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,880 scientific data, thanks to the US labs. 291 00:20:59,350 --> 00:21:02,270 Mm HM, that's good. I should connect with him 292 00:21:02,790 --> 00:21:05,910 because do you know the tubes that you sell? 293 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:08,390 Are they impregnated for 24 hours? 294 00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:15,390 48 hours, so it depends on which substance. 295 00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:23,440 So for explosives it's like 7 days and also I I don't know by 296 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,840 art, I can level check afterwards, but we can put in 297 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,920 the in comments the quantity, but it's around like 100 between 298 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,160 100 to 200 grams of explosives during seven days. 299 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,680 So yeah, this is also the tendency because initially is 300 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,080 dedicated for the US market and North America market and the 301 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,720 tendencies to have like a huge quantity of explosives instead 302 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,740 of training like on milligrams in Europe is kind of different. 303 00:21:56,620 --> 00:22:01,700 So what you can always do, you can buy like 10 imprenated gets 304 00:22:01,700 --> 00:22:05,620 and tubes and after you can imprenate your tubes with blank 305 00:22:05,620 --> 00:22:08,580 tubes and you do your own imprenation because you can 306 00:22:08,580 --> 00:22:12,500 start from an apprenated one and apprenate the second one, you 307 00:22:12,700 --> 00:22:15,620 know what I mean? And so you will and based on the 308 00:22:15,620 --> 00:22:18,540 time that you you use for the imprenation you will decrease 309 00:22:18,540 --> 00:22:21,010 the concentration on both tubes, sure. 310 00:22:21,010 --> 00:22:24,570 So this is a way also if it's too big for you, you can do your 311 00:22:24,570 --> 00:22:27,890 own implementation atoms. So it's also we we wanted to 312 00:22:27,890 --> 00:22:32,930 have it like really open system because you know we understood 313 00:22:32,930 --> 00:22:40,250 that dog trainers they like to to also do their things in their 314 00:22:40,290 --> 00:22:44,770 own way and also to understand all the the things on on the way 315 00:22:45,010 --> 00:22:47,170 and you are also really innovative. 316 00:22:47,610 --> 00:22:51,960 So all the dog trainers wants to to stretch their dogs and to 317 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,520 stretch their their training is what we noticed when when we 318 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,360 came in this business. So and it's why we wanted to 319 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:00,920 have like it come back to our childhood. 320 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,760 This is Lego stuff you know you want to play around and to try 321 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,000 some stuff. So it's why we we know we we we 322 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,520 sell the blanket you but we sell also accreted that you can play 323 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,240 on your own way and how you want and we we give you all the 324 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,480 recommendation to make it in the right way as well. 325 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,560 That's good, That's good because we will definitely for our own 326 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:31,880 purpose, but also for others who who are interested and offer new 327 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,720 impregnated and tubings from the explosives that we use, from the 328 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,680 box that we use, and so on so on. 329 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,200 On your product list, you have explosives. 330 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:47,160 You have drugs, you have bed bugs, you have. 331 00:23:48,590 --> 00:23:51,790 Bunch of residuals. What else do you have or are you 332 00:23:51,790 --> 00:23:55,670 planning for? We have cadaver, yeah, we have 333 00:23:55,670 --> 00:24:00,470 cadaver, yeah, Okay. Cadaver is booming right now. 334 00:24:01,070 --> 00:24:05,350 There is like a huge need. So thanks to our collaboration 335 00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:10,390 with Precision Explosive, we're able to get cadaver with all the 336 00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:15,310 trustability that we need regarding age balance regarding 337 00:24:16,430 --> 00:24:20,150 because of this is we have all this data when we sell at the 338 00:24:20,150 --> 00:24:23,150 back. So it's very useful for the 339 00:24:23,230 --> 00:24:27,190 trainers afterwards. And also now we are trying to 340 00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:31,230 build a similar relationship in you to be able to supply because 341 00:24:31,270 --> 00:24:35,110 we know that is different. The smell can be different 342 00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:39,870 between your where you because it doesn't impact where you 343 00:24:39,870 --> 00:24:43,070 live, how you eat, which product you eat, how you use the 344 00:24:43,150 --> 00:24:47,000 temperature and everything. So there is like similar 345 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,480 molecules but there are some that we are different. 346 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,920 So it's why we want to to give like a broad Spectra for the dog 347 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,360 trainers and we are building like similar relationship with 348 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,480 with people in you to to be able to to supply like caliber 349 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:07,040 detection tubes. But that also goes with the 350 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,200 explosives, drugs and bed bugs, etcetera, because our 351 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,120 manufacturers have slightly different components that might 352 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:14,720 make a bigger difference for the dogs. 353 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,480 And so for sure that will be very interesting, yeah, it's why 354 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:24,400 I'm super like happy if you can also infinite get and choose 355 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:31,560 with like EU targets material. So this is like will be a bid 356 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,600 advantage also for us because sure, you know some exactly, 357 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,290 it's both ways. So it will be super interesting 358 00:25:39,290 --> 00:25:44,690 to buy like EU made the TATP, maybe you made it quite 359 00:25:44,690 --> 00:25:50,130 differently or yeah, EU bed bugs can be in front also. 360 00:25:50,570 --> 00:25:54,010 Yeah. But it's like sure, today 361 00:25:54,290 --> 00:25:57,050 honestly we are all learning with others. 362 00:25:57,210 --> 00:26:00,490 Others it's like a new field of research. 363 00:26:01,330 --> 00:26:06,750 So yeah, we could interesting to see the differences if dogs are 364 00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:09,910 trained on US. Bed bugs are reacting 365 00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:13,390 differently with U bed bugs, so this can be really interesting. 366 00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:16,790 The interesting thing there is maybe you know about them. 367 00:26:16,790 --> 00:26:20,990 There is a lab in Czech Republic and they do a lot of studies on 368 00:26:20,990 --> 00:26:23,510 bed bugs. So they do a sort of a contact 369 00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:26,830 tracing which is really interesting and they found out 370 00:26:26,830 --> 00:26:31,320 that most as I believe. And most of the box that we have 371 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,480 here in Europe are coming from the US and Eastern part of Asia, 372 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,080 which is very interesting. But of course they will develop 373 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,880 throughout the many generations as they as the population grows 374 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,920 so fast and there might be a bigger difference after they 375 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,680 have come to Europe. So maybe we should sell them 376 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,640 some some odors back? Exactly. 377 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,010 Good. And and that's also again a good 378 00:26:59,010 --> 00:27:03,170 keyword for. My next question, because I 379 00:27:03,170 --> 00:27:07,450 always have a colleague of mine in my head and who who told me 380 00:27:07,450 --> 00:27:12,530 he's a biologist and he said if you can smell shit, you have 381 00:27:12,530 --> 00:27:17,290 shit in your nose. So at least the molecules of of 382 00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:24,850 of the target can we smell. Or can we sense the scent on the 383 00:27:24,850 --> 00:27:28,330 tubings? If we have, for example, an 384 00:27:28,330 --> 00:27:31,890 impregnation of cadaver that would smell quite intense, is 385 00:27:31,890 --> 00:27:33,770 there a way for us to sense it as well? 386 00:27:34,490 --> 00:27:39,530 Yeah, this depends on the time of you do the impregnation, and 387 00:27:39,610 --> 00:27:41,410 it depends on the target material as well. 388 00:27:41,890 --> 00:27:46,730 But we do quite yeah quite frequently the test so we put 389 00:27:46,730 --> 00:27:52,350 like tubes with tea and we wait 1020 minutes and you will you 390 00:27:52,350 --> 00:27:53,990 can take it back and you can smell it. 391 00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:59,790 I I won't give the name but I know that some police they train 392 00:27:59,790 --> 00:28:03,110 their dog trainer and their their dog handler with gets and 393 00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:06,710 tubes as well you know to to to see the thinking when you look 394 00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:08,510 for a smell. So they use gets and tube with 395 00:28:08,510 --> 00:28:12,750 chocolate with like with coffee and they use you know the 396 00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:19,430 because to to also we don't use a lot our smell scents as human 397 00:28:20,190 --> 00:28:23,630 as we evolve we use less and less and you know they want to 398 00:28:24,030 --> 00:28:26,870 to help the dog handler to see how a dog is working. 399 00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:29,710 You know I know that it's different but it gives you an 400 00:28:29,710 --> 00:28:31,550 idea and they use get and chip to do that. 401 00:28:32,110 --> 00:28:34,150 So yes you can do it do the exercise. 402 00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:37,350 I recommend like all the listener on the podcast, to take 403 00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:40,430 one get and chip out their bag to put it with like a tea 404 00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:45,110 chocolate and to wait like a bit and they will smell it for sure. 405 00:28:46,270 --> 00:28:49,470 Because in in the past sorry to interrupt. 406 00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:54,990 So in the past we were we were using a lot of like target 407 00:28:54,990 --> 00:28:58,470 matter like coffee for example to do all our testing because we 408 00:28:58,470 --> 00:29:02,150 were not allowed to to use like TATPHMTD and so on. 409 00:29:02,670 --> 00:29:07,390 So we all all the the data that we get at the beginning was with 410 00:29:07,390 --> 00:29:10,110 coffee so and we were able to smell it as well all. 411 00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:15,950 Right. So there might be some of our 412 00:29:15,950 --> 00:29:20,950 listeners and beyond that, people who who would not trust 413 00:29:21,550 --> 00:29:25,550 these these training aids. Is there a chance for them? 414 00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:30,190 I I, I I wouldn't ask hundreds and thousands of people to send 415 00:29:30,190 --> 00:29:35,670 you some samples, but is there the the the chance to impregnate 416 00:29:35,670 --> 00:29:39,550 the tube with something? And send it to you and let you 417 00:29:39,550 --> 00:29:42,430 find out what's on there. Is something like this possible? 418 00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:48,110 So what we do, yeah, we can tell you what is inside, if it's 419 00:29:48,110 --> 00:29:52,510 something that we have in our database, yes, just to give you 420 00:29:52,510 --> 00:29:57,350 an ID, we have like a funny story, like a few months ago, 421 00:29:57,870 --> 00:30:01,230 one customer say, ah, my dog is hitting my blank tube. 422 00:30:02,110 --> 00:30:05,320 I say OK, strange is blank. Blank is blank. 423 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,560 There is no order. We know that some people try to 424 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,560 train dogs to detect blank tubes. 425 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,240 It was not working and I said okay. 426 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,440 Did you change it? Quite frequently? 427 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,000 Because it has to be changed because as soon as you put the 428 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,800 blank out, it will grab the order of all the environment. 429 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,080 And if you're in the environment, we have target 430 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,720 order, your dog will enter the blank tube. 431 00:30:29,550 --> 00:30:31,070 Yeah. And yes. 432 00:30:31,070 --> 00:30:36,190 Now I use it properly and so I send it back to us and we did 433 00:30:36,190 --> 00:30:41,750 the analysis and we found that cocaine was on the tube and the 434 00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:47,190 dog was a narcotic dog and also so he was eating the tube for 435 00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:49,990 sure. So it's why if you want, if you 436 00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:52,150 want to use. So this we are able to do it 437 00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:56,270 because cocaine is on our database, but if you want to use 438 00:30:56,270 --> 00:31:01,720 blank tube, it's important that you change it like every 1020 439 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,600 minutes because it would grab everything around and if it is 440 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,880 like a small fraction of cocaine somewhere it will grab it. 441 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,640 Yeah, yeah, it would make sense to to to impregnate it with just 442 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,720 another control. Exactly. 443 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,960 So it's why I recommend do it with like with a tennis ball 444 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,880 with like, yeah, do it like that so. 445 00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:28,060 And that's also an important question. 446 00:31:28,940 --> 00:31:32,820 Do you know the the dual cell batteries where you can hold on 447 00:31:32,820 --> 00:31:36,060 both sides and you see the the level of energy in it. 448 00:31:36,540 --> 00:31:39,780 First of all you should you should build something like that 449 00:31:39,940 --> 00:31:42,780 for the tubes for us handlers and trainers. 450 00:31:43,180 --> 00:31:48,540 But secondly, is there the danger and that as soon as the 451 00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:53,500 tubes lose the amount of odor by time, that they also? 452 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,280 Contain some new different orders that we don't want? 453 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,960 Or is it like the is the sponge then just like dry and does not 454 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:08,200 contain any? Yeah, this is, yeah, this is a 455 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,910 big issue. If you use your tube longer than 456 00:32:11,950 --> 00:32:16,470 what we defined in our recommendations, I can explain 457 00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:20,110 why and I can explain how long you can use your tube. 458 00:32:20,430 --> 00:32:23,990 So you can use your tube. You do 24 hours of explanation. 459 00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:28,070 You can use your tube during 24 hours without any risk of 460 00:32:28,390 --> 00:32:31,790 contamination. When I say 24 hours is 24 hours 461 00:32:31,870 --> 00:32:34,630 of training. So if you use, you do the 462 00:32:34,670 --> 00:32:37,510 morning two hours of training, you take it back, you put it in 463 00:32:37,510 --> 00:32:41,210 the glass jar, you close it, and in the afternoon you do 2 hours, 464 00:32:41,690 --> 00:32:43,810 it will count for four hours in total. 465 00:32:44,370 --> 00:32:47,650 So it's the time the storage site doesn't count. 466 00:32:48,170 --> 00:32:50,970 So it's why you can store another order in several years 467 00:32:52,290 --> 00:32:55,170 without any risk. But what is important is the 468 00:32:55,170 --> 00:32:58,930 time that you use the tube in your training conditions. 469 00:33:00,370 --> 00:33:05,050 So this is the first thing. So you have to use it during the 470 00:33:05,050 --> 00:33:10,650 same drive to use it during the time of you have implemented 471 00:33:11,170 --> 00:33:15,730 your gate engine. So this if you go beyond you 472 00:33:15,730 --> 00:33:17,650 have a risk of pollution. Why? 473 00:33:18,370 --> 00:33:23,370 Because that you release a order 4 hours. 474 00:33:23,930 --> 00:33:26,370 If we have we did an implementation of 24 hours, it's 475 00:33:26,370 --> 00:33:28,330 really constant. So it means you will get the 476 00:33:28,330 --> 00:33:32,010 same level of order during 24 hours and after raise a drop. 477 00:33:32,650 --> 00:33:35,620 And when there is a drop, the dog can still smell the tube. 478 00:33:35,660 --> 00:33:39,500 Some of the dogs can still smell it, but at this stage there is 479 00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:42,060 not enough molecule to protect the tube. 480 00:33:42,380 --> 00:33:45,420 So you will get like you can be polluted by background others. 481 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:48,860 So it's why most of the time you say, yeah, I use your tube 482 00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:54,300 during like 2 years without any issue, yes, but your tube is 483 00:33:54,620 --> 00:33:58,880 like with a lot of pollution. So it means instead of giving 484 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,920 like a clear order profile with a clear order Spectra like is 485 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,720 very accurate without any pollution. 486 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:10,080 You give like the right order but with many other molecules 487 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:13,960 around in the background and so. So this is not good because you 488 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,199 will lose the efficiency at the end and it's why we we don't 489 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:21,040 recommend to do that. So after 24 hours of use, you 490 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,020 can discard the tube. That there wouldn't be a way to 491 00:34:25,020 --> 00:34:27,219 clean it and impregnate it again. 492 00:34:27,620 --> 00:34:32,300 Now today to clean it, it will be too complicated. 493 00:34:33,659 --> 00:34:37,580 If you visit our factory, you will see that it's a complicated 494 00:34:37,580 --> 00:34:40,540 process, so it will cost too much to make it. 495 00:34:41,060 --> 00:34:44,139 Because just to give you some hints about the production today 496 00:34:44,139 --> 00:34:48,340 we produce the get and tubes like how we produce medicines. 497 00:34:48,940 --> 00:34:50,940 So it's like a pharmaceutical factory. 498 00:34:51,219 --> 00:34:55,739 Everything is stainless steel so people wear like they cover the 499 00:34:55,739 --> 00:34:58,260 head the beers, they cover everything. 500 00:34:58,340 --> 00:35:01,500 They they don't use 5 fragrance and anything. 501 00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:05,580 But at the end of this process to get the shape of a tube, we 502 00:35:06,020 --> 00:35:10,100 have to do like what we call a cleaning process in order to 503 00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:13,060 make it without any other, to ensure that the dog cannot 504 00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:18,350 detect a blanket. And because also this is funny 505 00:35:18,350 --> 00:35:21,750 because when we have like people use cotton goals, cotton ball 506 00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:26,270 like Q-tips and so on, all the people were saying yes, we can 507 00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:31,110 offset the order of the cotton goals and we say very strange 508 00:35:31,110 --> 00:35:34,630 because we know that how it's manufactured, the order is 509 00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:36,750 changing so. Yeah, sure. 510 00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:38,960 Yeah, yeah. And and people say yeah, but I 511 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,920 kind of said yeah, but it means that you have to get a stable 512 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,840 order. But they said cotton goes not 513 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,960 for dog training. They said cotton goes for for 514 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,400 when you have a bone. When you have it's not like it's 515 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,560 for training purpose. And so we don't care about the 516 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,600 pollution that we are. But you as dog trainer you care 517 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,800 and so it's why we we said it doesn't work. 518 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:02,280 And if you look all the study, all the medical study with 519 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,200 medical detection, you will look at the specificity, you will 520 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,160 look at the sensitivity and it's not good due to this fact. 521 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,440 And you compare with all the studies that we done with 522 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,480 COVID-19 where we use get and choose, it's much more sensitive 523 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,120 and much more accurate idea. It's because we we are setting 524 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,280 something that is without a door where you can catch all the 525 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,240 molecules. That's really cool. 526 00:36:27,790 --> 00:36:28,950 Great. Give me a minute. 527 00:36:29,230 --> 00:36:33,070 I have to go to the toilet and we continue in a minute. 528 00:36:33,070 --> 00:36:38,710 Drink too much coffee this morning, so I I do the same. 529 00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:57,480 It's OK for you. We got already through many 530 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:03,240 detailed questions and as we have learned in the very 531 00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:08,120 beginning is you mentioned already that there are some 532 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:14,630 other. Training aid fabricants or not 533 00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:19,590 fabricants, but the training aid providers in the US market and 534 00:37:19,590 --> 00:37:26,350 the European market and without telling any names, what's the 535 00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:28,230 difference? Because I really like your 536 00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:30,830 approach and you have already explained it to us in our last 537 00:37:30,830 --> 00:37:37,670 video call and it also is the reason why. 538 00:37:38,170 --> 00:37:40,770 Why we bought get sent and not any others? 539 00:37:40,970 --> 00:37:45,930 Because there are always so many factors about many training aids 540 00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:50,050 that the handler or trainer in the end just does not know what 541 00:37:50,250 --> 00:37:54,290 is in these training aids. What do they consist of and what 542 00:37:54,290 --> 00:38:00,410 do they smell like? Yeah, the main difference I 543 00:38:00,410 --> 00:38:06,490 would say it's with our training ads you are sure to get the real 544 00:38:06,610 --> 00:38:12,180 target order. This is a huge advantage because 545 00:38:12,220 --> 00:38:17,140 if you cannot handle your target order in some like scenario in 546 00:38:17,140 --> 00:38:21,700 the airport in it can be on the field as well for cadaver. 547 00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:25,780 You cannot go in US in the forest with a piece of body 548 00:38:25,860 --> 00:38:29,300 because like there is wildlife and they will grab it. 549 00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:34,100 So you see there is many what is what we can apply to explosives 550 00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:38,050 can apply for cadaver as well. So we have training scenario 551 00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:40,930 where you cannot bring your target order and your target 552 00:38:40,930 --> 00:38:45,010 material and so thanks to get sent you, you can bring your 553 00:38:45,010 --> 00:38:48,770 real target order on the field in every scenario and without 554 00:38:48,810 --> 00:38:50,930 any risk you can travel everywhere. 555 00:38:51,970 --> 00:38:55,050 So this is like as the main difference. 556 00:38:55,850 --> 00:38:59,690 It's what we call order fidelity and also order integrity. 557 00:39:00,330 --> 00:39:05,010 So this something we don't speak about it in the dog training 558 00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:10,400 world is our order doesn't evolve with time. 559 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,520 If you look to cotton Goose for example and all this type of 560 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,960 material like cotton based material, the order will evolve 561 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:24,080 over time because the evolve, the order is not protected by 562 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,360 the material. In our case the order is inside 563 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,280 the material. It's why you can clean or so 564 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,040 your training gate. That means you have a gate and 565 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:37,220 you you have some mud on top, you have some dust you go to 566 00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:42,380 with tap water, you remove all the dust and you dry it and you 567 00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:45,060 can use it again. Because the molecules, they are 568 00:39:45,060 --> 00:39:47,740 not at the surface, they are inside the metal. 569 00:39:48,060 --> 00:39:51,380 So this is a big change they are not talking about. 570 00:39:51,380 --> 00:39:52,940 That's huge. I didn't know that. 571 00:39:53,260 --> 00:39:56,380 Yeah, this is huge aspect of our product. 572 00:39:56,660 --> 00:39:59,700 Okay, you will remove the layer of molecules that is at the 573 00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:01,540 surface because there is always molecule going. 574 00:40:01,540 --> 00:40:04,660 At the surface. To be released, but you lose a 575 00:40:04,660 --> 00:40:08,130 bit of your sense. Yeah, but you don't, you don't 576 00:40:08,370 --> 00:40:11,170 lose a lot because everything the tank I would say is inside. 577 00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:18,970 So this make it like a huge difference and also to make it 578 00:40:19,210 --> 00:40:22,330 right for me and I'm very a simple thing. 579 00:40:22,370 --> 00:40:24,890 That's why I'm only a dog trainer, so you have to explain 580 00:40:24,930 --> 00:40:30,180 things to me like this. We've we've learned before that, 581 00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:33,420 for example, if we are pairing or impregnating the tube for 582 00:40:33,540 --> 00:40:39,380 let's say one hour with RDX, then there are still some parts 583 00:40:39,380 --> 00:40:44,860 of the real RDX that are not yet in the tank of the tube. 584 00:40:45,340 --> 00:40:48,980 On the other hand, if we would impregnate it for seven days, we 585 00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:51,780 might have the full amount of RDX on the tube. 586 00:40:52,020 --> 00:40:58,100 But throughout the training time, let's say of 10 hours and 587 00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:04,580 with the with the one hour impregnated RDX tube and the the 588 00:41:04,780 --> 00:41:10,100 the shape of the scent or of the order of RDX stays the same. 589 00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:15,900 It does not evolve. It does not lose components of 590 00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:19,860 the original order. So even even after 10 minutes 591 00:41:19,980 --> 00:41:23,060 few seconds you get the full Spectra of the other. 592 00:41:23,140 --> 00:41:25,980 So you you get all the molecules, you just play with 593 00:41:25,980 --> 00:41:29,910 the intensity. So we have some people that use 594 00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:33,670 get into for 10 minutes. They don't have like a long chef 595 00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:36,670 life because they cannot choose it during like days of training. 596 00:41:37,070 --> 00:41:40,350 But it's very interesting because we want to train on very 597 00:41:40,350 --> 00:41:43,190 small amount of. We want to simulate for example 598 00:41:43,550 --> 00:41:47,390 a luggage where everything is packed with like films on top 599 00:41:47,390 --> 00:41:51,670 and so on with plastic cover. So and they use the tube in that 600 00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:56,110 way, but the. The Spectra, the nature, the 601 00:41:56,110 --> 00:41:59,950 quality of the door is the same, but it's just the identity who 602 00:42:00,550 --> 00:42:04,190 is changing. Does it make sense? 603 00:42:04,670 --> 00:42:08,870 Yeah, yeah. I will myself re listen to this 604 00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:15,090 episode many times to get the whole thing okay, but I'm very 605 00:42:15,090 --> 00:42:19,170 sorry I interrupted you before. So, yeah, I was saying like the 606 00:42:19,210 --> 00:42:20,850 main difference is order fidelity. 607 00:42:20,850 --> 00:42:23,570 So it means that you have the real order, the real substance 608 00:42:24,090 --> 00:42:28,010 and also order integrity, so the order stays the same over time. 609 00:42:28,970 --> 00:42:32,250 And also you have the possibility to manage your 610 00:42:32,250 --> 00:42:36,690 quantity of order because in most of the training that you 611 00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:38,850 have on the market, the treasure is here. 612 00:42:38,930 --> 00:42:41,010 And if you want more or less, you cannot do it. 613 00:42:41,490 --> 00:42:45,630 So thanks to our product. You want to train on tons of 614 00:42:46,110 --> 00:42:48,990 narcotics, you can do it, it's just a matter of time. 615 00:42:49,830 --> 00:42:56,710 You want to train on like microgram of of explosive you 616 00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:59,750 can as well. So it gives like a huge 617 00:42:59,750 --> 00:43:05,750 versatility and also we are the only training in on the market 618 00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:10,270 who doesn't have any other. So it means the blank one 619 00:43:10,270 --> 00:43:14,810 doesn't have any other. I you can try with others you 620 00:43:14,810 --> 00:43:19,010 will see that they have another so you can standardize your your 621 00:43:19,010 --> 00:43:23,330 training protocol as well. So this is a huge advantage for 622 00:43:23,330 --> 00:43:27,530 like military application, like police were everything well 623 00:43:27,530 --> 00:43:30,330 standardized and they have to deploy worldwide. 624 00:43:30,650 --> 00:43:34,050 They cannot take the risk to to to use a product that today he 625 00:43:34,050 --> 00:43:36,050 has the smell and tomorrow he has another 1. 626 00:43:36,410 --> 00:43:38,810 So it's why they cannot use cotton goats, for example, 627 00:43:39,090 --> 00:43:40,690 because it's it's a big risk for them. 628 00:43:42,430 --> 00:43:45,270 And they have also to give the efficiency of the adults. 629 00:43:45,350 --> 00:43:49,670 So they want to train on real and those are some really good 630 00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:54,670 arguments for for the authorities to use those things. 631 00:43:54,670 --> 00:44:00,790 Because everyone has the the the issue of not always having the 632 00:44:02,590 --> 00:44:07,070 the the real amounts that are required for proper operational 633 00:44:07,070 --> 00:44:10,170 training. Because sometimes the handlers 634 00:44:10,170 --> 00:44:15,170 are just able to run around with their little case with 9 odors 635 00:44:15,170 --> 00:44:20,130 inside around, I don't know 30 gram and they have to train with 636 00:44:20,130 --> 00:44:24,530 that all year long. So with with, with gets and 637 00:44:24,530 --> 00:44:28,690 tunes, we would obviously be able to get a lot of cleaner 638 00:44:28,690 --> 00:44:33,490 training and to vary in the amounts and to to generalize the 639 00:44:33,490 --> 00:44:36,690 dog in an easier way to to give you more sent pictures. 640 00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:40,790 And also it's for a dog trainer it's easier to manage like a 641 00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:45,510 tube like a solid material like in once like and manage like 642 00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:51,070 powder like manage like liquid. So it's easier to to get a tube 643 00:44:51,070 --> 00:44:54,150 and and to place it. It's like easier to the handling 644 00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:57,710 is much easier as well for for the people, yeah. 645 00:45:00,830 --> 00:45:04,030 But you mentioned the liquid. You you wouldn't soak it into 646 00:45:04,030 --> 00:45:10,960 liquid to impregnate it. Yes, we do it, but in some in 647 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,600 some specific cases because we don't work only for the 648 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,600 detection the business. We work also in the food 649 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,840 industry in the beverages. So if we want to to take a homa 650 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,800 for for for a beverage, so we use gates and tubes as well. 651 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,280 So it works, but the main issue is the liquid itself, because 652 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,400 when you have when you are in the air, the air is a carrier of 653 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,930 of the gas. But in the liquid it's a liquid 654 00:45:37,930 --> 00:45:40,650 itself. So you might not get all the 655 00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:43,570 molecules, but it's just based just like it. 656 00:45:43,970 --> 00:45:47,610 So it's why we have the questions from dog trainers. 657 00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:54,010 Can I use my tube underwater? Yes you can use it your but it's 658 00:45:54,010 --> 00:45:56,010 the same. If you put like a piece of body 659 00:45:56,050 --> 00:45:58,970 underwater you will get the same order because. 660 00:45:59,010 --> 00:46:02,250 But can I? Is it like the full order 661 00:46:02,250 --> 00:46:04,730 Spectra? I don't think so, because the 662 00:46:04,730 --> 00:46:07,270 water will filter. The molecular as well. 663 00:46:07,590 --> 00:46:10,510 So you might not get the full spectral, but you can use it. 664 00:46:10,830 --> 00:46:14,790 This is not a big deal for gate. We have like many training 665 00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:17,830 scenario where the gate and chip are used in those ways, mainly 666 00:46:19,710 --> 00:46:22,670 for what we call cadaver detection. 667 00:46:24,030 --> 00:46:28,390 You might remain and yeah, so you can use it underwater like 668 00:46:29,230 --> 00:46:31,830 under the ground. We have some application when 669 00:46:31,870 --> 00:46:35,690 it's used under the ground. To detect like some half species 670 00:46:35,770 --> 00:46:40,130 as well. And I was also thought about 671 00:46:41,170 --> 00:46:44,570 some of our clients who are doing wildlife detection and who 672 00:46:44,570 --> 00:46:47,850 are searching for endangered species or invacious species 673 00:46:48,850 --> 00:46:51,930 would be really interesting to. Because we've always had the the 674 00:46:51,930 --> 00:46:57,010 difficulty that we can that it's not like ethical correct to cage 675 00:46:57,330 --> 00:47:02,210 the snake and to put it outside all day long in the heat to just 676 00:47:02,210 --> 00:47:05,230 have the dog find it. But it would be able we would be 677 00:47:05,230 --> 00:47:08,790 able to to do that with the get in tubes again and and we could 678 00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:12,270 be sure that it the the odor lasts longer. 679 00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:17,510 Would you stick it or put it on the snake, or just hang it into 680 00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:20,790 the terrarium? So when we do like for like 681 00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:26,830 salamander snakes, frogs, we hang the tube on top for total 682 00:47:26,830 --> 00:47:31,220 detection. We did it also we put like it's 683 00:47:31,220 --> 00:47:34,820 not we our customer did it with a necklace as we mentioned 684 00:47:34,820 --> 00:47:38,860 before. Yeah, but it's like many 685 00:47:38,860 --> 00:47:41,540 different way. But hang it on top is like 686 00:47:42,260 --> 00:47:43,700 great, not the best. Yeah great. 687 00:47:44,380 --> 00:47:48,420 And I really recommend to reduce the size of like the terrarium 688 00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:52,060 because if you take a huge one, it will dilute the other. 689 00:47:52,460 --> 00:47:55,090 So if you can. Have it like in the small 690 00:47:55,090 --> 00:47:58,690 glacier with space for the snake to feel well. 691 00:47:59,370 --> 00:48:01,450 This is a good option. Great. 692 00:48:02,610 --> 00:48:07,930 So, last but not least, what does the future bring apart from 693 00:48:08,210 --> 00:48:10,730 my new innovation of the Jelly gets sent? 694 00:48:13,570 --> 00:48:19,570 Now, so now we are working a lot for to certify what we call the 695 00:48:19,570 --> 00:48:22,210 gates and rascoe in many different countries. 696 00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:28,720 It's already it's already used in different country to do like 697 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,000 a big screening detection. I don't know if everyone is 698 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,240 aware about Gates and Roscoe, Roscoe it's like affordable 699 00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:39,680 device that you can plug on the diesel in order to collect 700 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,640 orders but in an active way. So it means thanks to that you 701 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,040 can collect order from like a big container, from a car, from 702 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:51,360 a truck and after a few minutes you get the order on your. 703 00:48:51,860 --> 00:48:56,020 On your Gates entry and you go to a different room and with a 704 00:48:56,020 --> 00:49:02,380 lineup and you can run your dog and see if you have explosive 705 00:49:02,380 --> 00:49:07,180 drugs and anything that you are looking for in the Gates entry. 706 00:49:08,380 --> 00:49:12,740 So and this we are going more and more with this product. 707 00:49:12,740 --> 00:49:17,980 So it was our last innovation. So now we are developing like a 708 00:49:17,980 --> 00:49:23,220 lot of accessories for to help. Our customers to to use it in 709 00:49:23,220 --> 00:49:25,780 the proper way to to deploy faster. 710 00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:28,020 So this is where we focus right now. 711 00:49:28,380 --> 00:49:33,260 We still have like a Randy project mainly with different 712 00:49:33,340 --> 00:49:38,340 universities as you mentioned you spoke about the Jelly. 713 00:49:38,780 --> 00:49:41,820 So we are thinking to have something in that direction. 714 00:49:44,340 --> 00:49:49,260 So, yeah, so is I would say and also one big piece of work is 715 00:49:49,300 --> 00:49:56,380 the product evaluation. Because we are committed to 716 00:49:56,900 --> 00:50:02,620 provide you data, more and more data for you to be able to train 717 00:50:02,620 --> 00:50:04,620 your dog in the best way as possible. 718 00:50:04,940 --> 00:50:09,580 Because the dog is an amazing. I say it like that, an amazing 719 00:50:09,580 --> 00:50:14,020 tool. It's the most efficient tool on 720 00:50:14,020 --> 00:50:16,240 Earth. It's like fast. 721 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,680 The sensibility is really, really, really low. 722 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,080 So it can it's like at least 1000 times more accurate than 723 00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:28,080 any equipment on earth. So and we have to bring that out 724 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:32,880 to this field, to this industry to be able to to to do more with 725 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,080 those. Imagine tomorrow we can detect 726 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,760 like this is in the field. You know, like in agriculture, 727 00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:43,440 people are spending millions, billions to detect the odysses 728 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,530 in the field. With drones, with camera but 729 00:50:46,530 --> 00:50:50,250 with the dog, it's much faster, much cheaper so, but we have to 730 00:50:50,250 --> 00:50:54,490 bring that to the table to be able to go to those applications 731 00:50:55,370 --> 00:50:57,690 and it's what we are doing. We do a lot of product 732 00:50:57,690 --> 00:51:00,210 evaluation with your own application. 733 00:51:00,210 --> 00:51:03,530 So it's why we recommend people to reach out to us if you have a 734 00:51:03,530 --> 00:51:07,690 specific application that we are able to provide data in order to 735 00:51:08,050 --> 00:51:11,240 do like publications. To do like scientific report. 736 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,280 So this is something that we do and it takes a lot of time. 737 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:19,600 So it's why all our earning since the beginning, we reinvest 738 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,640 everything in equipment in order to be able to bring you more 739 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,760 data. So this is a long run and so, 740 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,800 but I'm really convinced that in the future that will be much 741 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:36,050 more used in many years of it. Wow, it sounds promising to our 742 00:51:36,050 --> 00:51:39,210 industry definitely. And fear or I'm very happy that 743 00:51:39,210 --> 00:51:41,930 people like you who are actually not coming from the dock side, 744 00:51:42,490 --> 00:51:48,250 are so interested in in in developing the whole branch and. 745 00:51:49,370 --> 00:51:53,290 And I think if we all work together we can do amazing thing 746 00:51:53,290 --> 00:51:56,210 with and we are just at the beginning of something huge, 747 00:51:56,530 --> 00:52:02,690 huge and I know that in some industry like as a health 748 00:52:02,690 --> 00:52:05,340 industry. It will be tough to to have a 749 00:52:05,340 --> 00:52:09,100 dog to detect the disease. We know that it works, but it 750 00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:12,460 will be tough to bring it to this level because it's also a 751 00:52:13,460 --> 00:52:17,780 mind change for the population. But as I said before, 752 00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:20,220 agriculture people are ready to do it. 753 00:52:20,540 --> 00:52:24,620 We just we just need to have the right training process, the 754 00:52:24,620 --> 00:52:28,300 right training and the right training protocol and to make it 755 00:52:28,300 --> 00:52:30,860 life. So this is just yeah. 756 00:52:31,780 --> 00:52:36,500 Huge because it's it will help a lot if you don't scrap like 1/2 757 00:52:36,580 --> 00:52:41,060 of food production. We are talking about like food 758 00:52:41,060 --> 00:52:43,100 wasting. We are talking about like it's 759 00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:48,380 difficult with temperature to get like food in some country so 760 00:52:48,420 --> 00:52:52,220 but if we can locate this is very accurately and to treat it 761 00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:57,580 really fast you imagine it's people will save like a huge 762 00:52:57,620 --> 00:53:00,340 issue in the world. So I'm really convinced like dog 763 00:53:00,340 --> 00:53:02,780 can help. On this type of applications, 764 00:53:03,300 --> 00:53:06,340 yeah. And in the end we we again also 765 00:53:06,340 --> 00:53:10,100 learned some more about odors and and how they, how they are 766 00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:15,900 affected to find new sources and reasons and causes of diseases 767 00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:20,780 or whatever. So I think, I think it was very 768 00:53:20,780 --> 00:53:25,900 inspiring talking to you about Get Sent and everything else 769 00:53:25,900 --> 00:53:29,660 that's connected with it. And from the tubes to the Roscoe 770 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,720 to potential future projects, etc. 771 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:42,080 I'm sure that the listeners will really listen to this very 772 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,200 episode a few times just to learn more and more about the 773 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,880 tubings and how to use them, how to do their own impregnations. 774 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:56,480 And if anyone has any questions, of course, on the one hand, they 775 00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:02,020 can contact us in Austria because we are now partners from 776 00:54:02,020 --> 00:54:05,180 Get Sent officially also already listed on your website. 777 00:54:05,180 --> 00:54:08,900 We are building now renewing our website. 778 00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:12,860 So the Get Sent will find its place on our website for sure. 779 00:54:14,020 --> 00:54:17,620 On the other hand, Greg, people can contact you directly as well 780 00:54:17,620 --> 00:54:21,140 I guess. And I will just add your website 781 00:54:21,140 --> 00:54:23,020 on our show notes of the episode. 782 00:54:23,020 --> 00:54:26,100 Yeah. People can contact me anytime 783 00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:31,320 for all technical questions. And yeah, so and as you said for 784 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:36,960 Austria, you are like the official partner you will and 785 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,480 you are and you will selling tools to, to all the customers 786 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,200 in Austria. And also for the training part, 787 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,400 it's important also because you can provide this training part 788 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,880 for example for Rascoe, not all the dog can do Rascoe and this 789 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,400 is something that you you provide as well and you can 790 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,600 provide more and more in the future. 791 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,760 So yeah. This is how it works. 792 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,320 So for the technical things they can come to me, but for all the 793 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,800 rest we have to go through you. It's very much easier because 794 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,560 you know sometimes I get like dog training questions. 795 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,520 I say I cannot help. You know, I I'm I'm like an 796 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,360 outsider. I can give what I think, but is 797 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,480 it not the true I I I don't have any capability to to answer 798 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,880 those questions and it's why it's really important to keep 799 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:26,160 like always dog trainers in the loop to be sure that. 800 00:55:26,930 --> 00:55:31,250 If you would get the best answer, perfect, Greg. 801 00:55:32,610 --> 00:55:35,930 When you ever travel to Austria in the eastern part of Austria, 802 00:55:35,930 --> 00:55:38,930 Vienna, etc, please let us know. You're always very welcome and 803 00:55:38,930 --> 00:55:42,010 we show you some of our training and how we how we work the dogs, 804 00:55:42,490 --> 00:55:46,370 how we do the scent conditioning, etc. 805 00:55:46,610 --> 00:55:50,090 And also working the higher trained dogs and we will give 806 00:55:50,090 --> 00:55:52,250 you a call as soon as we're in Switzerland again. 807 00:55:52,890 --> 00:55:53,330 Yeah. Good. 808 00:55:53,570 --> 00:55:56,200 Excellent. Thank you again for the time. 809 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:05,760 I think you we'll see and yeah. So we are done. 810 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:10,240 Okay to all the listeners if you like what you've heard, like, 811 00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:13,040 share, subscribe, follow us on our social media. 812 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,120 Get Send is also very present on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, 813 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,290 etc. You like us? 814 00:56:20,290 --> 00:56:22,810 Share us. 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