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about a very fat big dog, so if,
if if I can't catch anything, 

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maybe I can even eat it. 
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And adversity I have been told 
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yourself in ways you cannot 
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many years ago, I am sure did 
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was sitting next to them on the 
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How did you end up with STS 
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requesting me as your guest? 
Well I think it's it would be 

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difficult to miss you if you're 
on social media and you you like

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sir Certain other Pages or, or 
hashtags? 

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It's hard to not get onto your 
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And you're quite impressed and 
you're quite present, obviously,

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and it's astonishing how you're 
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and this kills you show and your
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So that's how I got attracted to
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And I have a list of people, I 
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started with the people in the 
show, whom, I already know known

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for a few years, or shorter or 
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And the trigger point was when 
pet Stewart, posted the picture 

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of you. 
And even, and to be as at the, 

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what was it? 
The ICP. 

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Yeah. 
Right, right. 

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Yeah conference and and then I 
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you a request and I could lucky 
me, it worked out. 

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So yeah, here we are. 
Alright, so we this is not life.

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No, no, it's not like it's a 
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think I will not edit anything 
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break or something else and and 
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anchor is it's called, it'll be 
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music Spotify a podcast and 
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We can share with you. 
And it will be great. 

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And for sure I can as you said 
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recording perfect. 
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Well, the words put it on the 
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Yeah, it sounds great. 
So so we're already started or 

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you have to still get started. 
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this may be an inn for the 
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But is there anything? 
Thing else ahead of the show you

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want to, you want to ask her? 
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topic we can discuss I have, you
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it was like because I like 
unscripted Rod. 

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Yeah. 
I don't like, yeah. 

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You know, things that need to be
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over. 
You know, I'll come back and see

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you in a week. 
What is that? 

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Like, it's a mad dog training. 
When something happens either 

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you can Want on the spot, you 
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understand, you have to assess 
or you don't so and it's the 

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same with this. 
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I'll tell you, I don't know. 
Then there's nothing wrong with 

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that. 
I think I believe is a you can't

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know what all. 
That's why. 

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There's that you have so many 
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podcast. 
I assume because they all have 

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their trades, are all have their
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Yeah. 
Great to have you. 

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And that was one of the ideas 
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about specific training topics 
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to build a business but in the 
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of interviews is really to get 
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And so, I don't know if you have
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to One or or another of our 
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I've not unfortunately, that's 
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I thought you know that people 
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whole time and I'm most of the 
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podcasts or you know, sometimes 
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always music but now it's 
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two things at the same time. 
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The see somebody? 
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You know what playlist? 
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It's So boring, it's sometimes 
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camera. 
How to operate this mic, you 

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know, software and all those 
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It takes a lot of time to assess
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things at a time and helps 
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The days too long. 
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police, for 18 years actively. 
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of days that were very long. 
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whole time even though we were 
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But you can work with a dog, a 
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know it's a dream job, right? 
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animals and I loved it but a 
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how to live a slow night. 
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only one answer that comes to. 
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at night when nobody's up 
nothing's happening because, you

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know, you have a job. 
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Because you're getting paid to 
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company or you know, your own 
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There's no waste of time and 
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waste yourself but nobody can 
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put or wait you know, or hit the
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whatever. 
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greatest things for people that 
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Also, for dogs, if you a treat 
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I said, what do you mean? 
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It's a no, you know, no mixing 
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dog or is not going to work out.
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like those limitations. 
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I didn't want to the finales, it
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also what people like to call my
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moves on the internet but 
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We just fine but you know, it's 
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preference. 
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They're not going to like it all
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a video on Sand, you beatings 
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that kind of stuff. 
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purposes than be flashy on the 
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at the dog, sometimes like, 
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That's not so funny anymore. 
If you think about it, right? 

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Because it me serious work and, 
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finales. 
I, you know, I could have one 

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of, you know, it's always, you 
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pretty close to winning the 
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the jump, he fell off, something
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But I mean, overall, the 
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performances. 
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was doing the police work as 
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many things but those 
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I'm happy. 
I never listen to anyone. 

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I wasn't listen. 
Listen do this do that but I 

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I would you no respect him and 
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yeah, I'll try it. 
I'll do it. 

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real training starts when you go
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It's like now you can be 
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you want. 
Now you can, you know, live your

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imagination try stuff, 
experience do experience, you 

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know that kind of stuff is what 
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A lot of people go through. 

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They tell you what to do from 

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day one, with the puppy. 
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course, and I don't like it. 
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It was I felt free seriously. 
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miss it because, of course, you 
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but I didn't at all, it's like, 
I was actually the best decision

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I ever made not because of the 
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because I have to tell you, they
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either like love him or hate 
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If you ask them something help 
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it's very cool because these 
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you and they still Help you. 
So they always have good 

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intentions but the whole 
atmosphere around the club other

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people telling me what to do and
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it's either that way or if you 
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might like that we did might 
show you that they don't, you 

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know, they don't like it. 
Then that much that you just go 

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your own way and it separates 
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going on in the club, which is 
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multiple clubs. 
I'm not a very good club person 

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because I like to do things on 
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do whatever I want and that's 
why I'm doing things that I 

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think a lot of people have not 
shown that like a side of the 

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dog that has not been shown and 
a side of me that I was never 

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able to show if it wasn't for 
the internet. 

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You know, the stuff that I do 
with my dogs or without my dog 

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even is not something very 
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I mean, I haven't seen it. 
I'm on YouTube for many, many 

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years. 
I haven't really seen anybody do

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it. 
So, you know, where people start

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comparing That's like okay well 
show us give me and talk. 

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You can compare and talk all 
day, but you got a comparing and

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performance. 
You got a comparing. 

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What do you do? 
Exactly. 

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Then that looks like ABC. 
So we can make this this 

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resemblance and then judge. 
Okay. 

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It looks like you're a spin-off 
of XYZ person but I'm looking at

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the field myself and I'm 
thinking well you guys all look 

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alike. 
But I don't look like you which 

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I believe is, you know, it's the
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Self because I didn't want to 
look like you and by you, I 

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don't mean, just anyone. 
Usually the, you know, the the 

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average person that went to a 
club goddess results, which 

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happy and or any police dog that
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all getting their results but 
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I didn't just want the result of
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I wanted more. 
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potential. 
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from the dark side, and there's 
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It just doesn't work like that. 
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have to create your own 
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Somebody already watching you 
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you don't want to try something,
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critique you or whatever it's so
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mindset and you know it's that's
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Could be literally setting 
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and I truly believe in it. 
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It's like what happened? 
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They, they're just in their 
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thrive. 
That's when you, you know, you 

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can Pick up multiple skills, 
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then you come up with great 
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Really, so people always ask for
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that's already a coaching 
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Only one person could be so. 
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need guidance. 
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It's not like how do you do it? 
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What can I do? 
What I limitations one of my 

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strengths were my weakness. 
How do I make? 

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These assessments. 
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What a dog's limits are all 
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assessment ready. 
And with this assessment, you 

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could start creating a plan, you
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imagination of what you want to 
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You know, the realistic approach
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of people ask me sometimes. 
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whatever and then they asked me,
can you do this with a breed 

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that? 
I've never heard of, I have to 

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look it up on Google. 
It's like, no, of course I can. 

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It's only what are you talking 
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Because people think, oh of, 
you're so tough now because you 

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can train a Malinois, okay? 
I do it with Labrador. 

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I won't, of course you can do it
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highly driven for food. 
Yes, but isn't that what the 

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case would everything? 
I mean if your bike is tires are

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flat, you're not going to win 
the Tour. 

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You're not going to win a race. 
You know, that's impossible. 

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You got to start with something.
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Yeah. 
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was it? 
The puppy or? 

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some some smaller peppery? 
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Other the palms of the pump, the
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there is no distinction in. 
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active? 
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small breeds, you have to bend 
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hardest part. 
It just doesn't give you that 

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flexibility at movement that you
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bigger dog. 
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know, you grow. 
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few weeks, he he comes better 
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little dogs also limited because
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paws are so small. 
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They can only do rapid movement 
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As you can expect it the pranks 
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That's of course, something that
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to bend down the whole time like
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actually they're just a lot of 
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Also really, to me the question 
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It's like, does he want to be in
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You want to come forward and 
learn something? 

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Yeah. 
And we can do it. 

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We are also having right now in 
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And it's a great dog, he's 
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nothing wrong. 
Nothing wrong to try to get as 

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professional branches. 
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with with dogs who are treated 
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everything they don't have to 
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expected to work for food or toy
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around the corner and think 
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motivation and how to build 
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very interesting Arresting 
aspect of stopped raining, it's 

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easier in the end to just work 
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they bring so many Hardware 
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That it's useful for out. 
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So it depends on what you define
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Because I'm sure if you give 
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would call it Triple A Class 
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and I don't think it would be 
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I think it would be a complete. 
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dangerous. 
That would be super hard, very 

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frustrating. 
So it all depends on what skill 

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level. 
These people have to start 

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handling these dogs. 
So we have to be careful. 

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What we, what we call Easy. 
We first have to frame then. 

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Okay, what exact training do we 
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What a pure working breed but 
only easier. 

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If you've developed a skill that
belongs, with this trade, you 

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want to extract So that that you
know, that's my brain is always 

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this continuous assessment. 
Okay, what's the task at hand? 

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What do you want? 
Well, then what is your plan to 

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get it? 
And how do you want this to look

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very important? 
Sit down stand. 

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You know, it's a very basic what
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many ways to do it. 
You know, let's see your dog 

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isn't a down and you call it 
into fourth position and you 

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could say, well that's easier 
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dogs more active and I would 
Well, well, it depends on how 

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you want this dog to move into 
this foot position. 

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If you want it to be super fast,
explosive Dynamic symmetric 

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completely on point and 
Perfection with his chest lined 

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up against your knee. 
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That's not so easy anymore even 
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so it's your perception on how 
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command and immediately your 
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This is how it looks, right? 
If you have some imagination, 

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I'll tell you. 
This is exactly how I have this 

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exercise in Mind. 
And to me, the answer comes, 

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then how obtainable is this? 
How long will this take me? 

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What will I have to do? 
What, how will I have to work 

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this dog? 
So easy and not easy as if you 

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have earned the skill, that's 
easy. 

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I asked you can you drive a car 
and call somebody at the same 

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If you're going to say, of 

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course, even though it's illegal
you can do it. 

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Still if you want to or you can 
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two things. 
You can focus on this 

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conversation and on the road but
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car. 
There's no way you can do it. 

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There's no way. 
You have to focus on what's 

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Happening. 
Alex your feet, your hand with 

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nothing. 
It's the same with dogs, you 

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know, or with any skill, do you 
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If you earned it Master a skill,
you're adding one on top of it, 

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you adding, and you're adding 
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we call Talent is the more 
combinations. 

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You, you have you can make and 
skills and you can all use these

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simultaneously. 
This is the definition. 

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This is how you Benchmark 
Talent. 

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So, if you are going to talk 
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Or any Handler Stalin, we should
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what definition will goes 
through my head. 

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If you say 0, x, y z, if we're 
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talented. 
To me. 

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It's the combination of skills. 
They can access you 

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simultaneously, so they can do 
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somebody else. 
That is the definition. 

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So this is what I always refer 
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So if you say this guy is 
talented, always think skills. 

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What Since and complex, the more
complex skills and the more 

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combinations, the more talent 
because if you can combine very 

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complex skills, all at the same 
time and you can access them 

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always in your subconscious. 
Like I said, like driving a car 

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and having a conversations 
subconscious, you're driving the

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car. 
You're still paying attention. 

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It's the same with the doc. 
If you can do all these things 

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subconscious, you can listen to 
the podcast. 

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I can train two dogs. 
At the same time I can, you 

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know, process many Things like 
uh, leash equal. 

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For example if you use it, 
marker food, like so many things

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that go on to me. 
Normal my my brain is used to 

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processing all these skills at 
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this your first time, it's not 
going to be that easy, right? 

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So nobody puts puts a benchmark 
on. 

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Okay, what is handled Talent? 
How do we measure it? 

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Very important question. 
How do you measure it? 

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And we have to measure it 
because we've been sorry. 

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Yeah. 
We've been measuring dogs too 

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much. 
Always measure the dog. 

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How good is the dog with the dog
win? 

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You know, show me the video 
show. 

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Okay, I got it. 
Look, we show all show 

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performances of dogs, but if you
want to coach, here's where the 

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difference comes in. 
If you want to coach, if you 

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want to teach somebody how to 
get the same result, we can't 

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just look at the dog. 
Now, we have to make a full 

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analysis profile on Handler. 
And this is, this is even more 

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important because the Handler is
a responsible for extracting The

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talent of the doc, he needs to 
develop the skills for the dog. 

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So the dog can combine all the 
skills. 

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So he's already in a coaching 
position. 

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So he must be skilled by, you 
know, from the start because 

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else, this is what we see a lot 
and professional dog training. 

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When clients come, they all have
good intentions but the results 

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are very poor. 
If they're not getting any 

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guidance because their 
subconscious cannot handle 

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complex skills yet, Yet. 
They're doing it because they 

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see an example on YouTube or 
whatever and they don't know, 

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they kind of extract what skills
are being applied. 

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So that just replicate and then 
it's a little bit of everything 

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and it's it's going all over the
place. 

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It's impossible to to assume 
they're going to get great 

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results. 
The majority by just watching a 

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YouTube video and you know, 
getting into this journey of 

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trying to get a performance from
a dock. 

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But if you ask even the Then how
are you going to get a 

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performance? 
You how do you turn your skill, 

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better? 
Can you tell me what skills? 

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You're even looking for even 
professionals high-end 

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professionals? 
How you going to get better than

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the guy next door? 
If I ask you, hey, somebody's 

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moving in and you live in 
Germany and this person is very 

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skilled. 
He is, he can do a lot of things

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with dogs, he's cheaper than 
you. 

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He's getting his results. 
You have a problem as a 

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professional because your 
customer base and they go, no. 

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Well, I I can choose between A 
and B, but B has better quality 

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results is cheaper and I got 
faster, you know, but I get my 

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dog faster again or I have more 
fast, you know, results myself. 

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He's going to go for B even 
though he likes a he probably 

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going to go with B. 
So so what are you going to do 

449
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,900
to to stay on the a side? 
Literally? 

450
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,200
It's a legit question. 
You have to ask yourself as a 

451
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,400
professional And that's 
something that that would follow

452
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,300
us in every, every state of 
life, I guess. 

453
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:13,000
And, and maybe something that 
can be described of the survival

454
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,800
of the fittest. 
Yeah. 

455
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,000
Darwin Theory. 
It's a very, very strong 

456
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,800
believer and all these theories 
and make a lot of sense. 

457
00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:24,200
So, Nina. 
Now I have to make a cut. 

458
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,100
It was already a great intro but
we haven't really introduced yet

459
00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:31,700
to the shows. 
So, let me we already drift it 

460
00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:35,200
but I love it. 
So everyone listening in M 

461
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:40,200
already heard a lot and our 
today's guest is, is no other 

462
00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:44,400
than Nino. 
David from STS canine. 

463
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,100
I guess, most of you will know 
him from Instagram from 

464
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:52,000
Facebook. 
We see a lot of great reels and 

465
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,200
videos explaining but also 
training dogs and to put it in 

466
00:25:57,300 --> 00:26:01,400
ninos words, a lot of very 
fleshy training and a lot of 

467
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,200
training that If you know, 
already a little more about it, 

468
00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:10,900
you realize how hard it is to 
train a dog to be that fast to 

469
00:26:10,900 --> 00:26:14,200
be that precise. 
And that's how I got really 

470
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,500
attracted on Nemo's work. 
So hello Nino. 

471
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:20,900
Great. 
That you find the time having a 

472
00:26:20,908 --> 00:26:25,500
talk with me tonight for let me 
know where you, where you at 

473
00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:27,300
right now. 
Are you in Belgium? 

474
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,400
Yes. 
Yes. 

475
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,700
Now I'm in Belgium. 
I reside in Belgium, I do I mean

476
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,400
I do go a lot to the US. 
For events but you know post 

477
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,800
covid it's not been as much as I
used to before. 

478
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,500
Okay. 
So but we'll be back next year 

479
00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:47,000
with a good event schedule. 
So but for now we're doing our 

480
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,100
stuff from Belgium mostly, you 
know, train the dogs. 

481
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:55,400
So And you have been and still 
are in a police. 

482
00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:56,900
Yes. 
Yeah. 

483
00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:59,900
It's called a leave of absence. 
So at the police you get a 

484
00:26:59,908 --> 00:27:04,100
chance to pursue your other 
career if you want to this case 

485
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:06,800
is, you know, the dog training 
business. 

486
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,200
And that's what I've been doing 
for five years now. 

487
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,300
So, five years, I've been 
self-employed and believe it or 

488
00:27:13,308 --> 00:27:16,500
not, in Belgium, you can take 
off seven years. 

489
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:19,500
So yeah, it's, that's crazy, 
isn't it? 

490
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:22,500
So, could you imagine going back
after seven years, But yeah, 

491
00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:25,500
that's that's the case. 
So, I've got two more years and 

492
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:29,900
then you have to resign. 
So yes, then you have to choose,

493
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:32,700
you know, either go back or 
you're never going to come back.

494
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,200
So that's the case, great. 
So, to all our listeners, who 

495
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:43,100
are not that familiar yet, with 
STS canine, what does STS stand 

496
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:44,400
for? 
What's the shortcut? 

497
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,700
And what's the philosophy of? 
Yeah, so I see a stands for 

498
00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:52,100
specialized training system now.
What is so special that And 

499
00:27:52,108 --> 00:27:55,600
about this system. 
And what do I do is so what what

500
00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,000
I stand for is, I want to use 
trades, Natural Instincts of a 

501
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,700
dog and extract these. 
These traits and we call them 

502
00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:07,000
potential and the potential is 
used to develop skills. 

503
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,400
The more skills, we teach the 
dog, the more he can combine 

504
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,600
these skills that we teach him. 
The more, we can Define the dog 

505
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,100
as talented. 
So what we do is develop Talent 

506
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:18,900
of a dog, right? 
But in order to do so, you have 

507
00:28:18,900 --> 00:28:23,100
to make an analysis on how 
Handler Then looks like same 

508
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:25,300
thing for you, right? 
Because you're the one who's 

509
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:27,200
going to have to do all this 
stuff with the dog. 

510
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:33,800
So we profile handlers trainers 
and we see what skills, they 

511
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,500
need to achieve. 
They need to develop and how 

512
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:38,200
they can make these 
combinations. 

513
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:41,300
And that's what we call the 
master view, right? 

514
00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:43,400
Because you have one side is a 
Handler. 

515
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:47,300
Other side is a dog and it's 
only by making a full assessment

516
00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:51,900
analysis on both that you will 
find a way to extract the 

517
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,400
potential. 
And then, you know, lift 

518
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,700
elevator dog to to live his full
potential. 

519
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:01,400
And this is something that I 
really enjoy, because you know 

520
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,300
why I love working dogs. 
So we mainly do working dogs. 

521
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:10,500
And the potential they have is, 
is usually unseen because we 

522
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:13,300
focus on certain sequences or 
certain purposes. 

523
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:15,700
Like, for example, Patrol dog, 
police dog. 

524
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:17,900
Okay Sports Talk protection, 
dog. 

525
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:19,500
So they always do certain 
things. 

526
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:21,800
Do they highlight certain 
things? 

527
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,800
And What we've done is we've put
them not into sequences but more

528
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,500
into overall strengths that we 
want to see from a dog and I 

529
00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:34,400
call these the Five Pillars and 
Within These Five Pillars we are

530
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,800
making these assessments and the
content of these five pillars is

531
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,500
going to show us how good the 
dog truly is and how much 

532
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,500
control you have over this? 
Because in the end, if we are 

533
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:49,700
going to train a dog as a 
predator, so do not assume a 

534
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:51,900
predator is going to follow you 
like a slave. 

535
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,800
Dave, because if you want to 
enslave a predator, you have to 

536
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,400
use Force. 
That's you don't need a book to 

537
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,200
understand that the matter is 
not going to follow you, unless 

538
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,800
you use Force. 
So what our job is then 

539
00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:08,400
cognitively, how do you 
understand to manipulate the 

540
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,900
Predator? 
So he is willing to share things

541
00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:15,800
with you. 
He is willing to do things in 

542
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,100
your favorite also because, you 
know, if you talk about dog, 

543
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:21,900
psychology, of course, people 
are understand a little bit. 

544
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:23,800
Of it. 
No, dog is selfish. 

545
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,000
He wants to do stuff to obtain 
something. 

546
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:32,700
So our Quest is then how do we, 
you know, create this symbiosis.

547
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,600
So and and human in this case 
get mutual benefits without 

548
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,600
using force or and then it's not
about positive only or, you 

549
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:48,300
know, using compulsion but like 
if you have to, you know, touch 

550
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:50,700
the Integrity of the dog to get 
your results. 

551
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,600
If you Make him stressed out or 
if he gets confused, you lose 

552
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,700
this symbiosis. 
So and that is something it's 

553
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:02,900
very hard to pinpoint. 
All, when you get it, you know, 

554
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,800
when you get it, that's the cool
thing. 

555
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,900
Once you get it, once you go on 
the level of say you know, 

556
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:12,700
synchronization movement flow 
flow, State energy exchange. 

557
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,800
This is like very holistic when 
you talk about it but when you 

558
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,000
feel it you will think. 
Whoa, there's there's much more 

559
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,100
to it than just, you know, doing
a Sequence, which I have also 

560
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:25,500
done. 
I really enjoyed sequences, but 

561
00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:28,600
there is more to it. 
And this is what we do is we 

562
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,800
specialize and we focus on 
training, handlers develop the 

563
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,700
skills, so they can, you know, 
then become either competent or 

564
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,800
develop more talents. 
So they can extract the 

565
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,900
potential of the dock and do the
same thing. 

566
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,000
So, we, it's always a team 
effort. 

567
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,200
That's why it is important. 
That's why analysis are 

568
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,100
important. 
That's why coaching is 

569
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:51,900
important, that's why 
understanding what skills the 

570
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,100
Five Pillars, same for the 
Handler also, five pillars, five

571
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:58,400
key elements. 
You have to focus on and yeah, 

572
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:00,900
that's what we've been doing. 
It's what we travel is. 

573
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:05,300
We we talk we give lectures 
about this and we help the dogs 

574
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:08,200
on the spot and then of course, 
through my online program, 

575
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,100
people can learn from any place 
in the world on what this 

576
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:15,200
exactly means and how do you get
started doing this? 

577
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:21,200
Great. 
So I know you've been a police 

578
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,700
K-9 Handler. 
You've also been head trainer at

579
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:27,100
the department. 
That's what I read on your home 

580
00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:31,100
page. 
And now you have SDS canine who 

581
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:36,200
are your clients and what, 
you're ready, told a lot but 

582
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,100
what branch is, do you provide 
for them? 

583
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,300
So yeah, we reach out to anybody
who has a working dog Ambitions,

584
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:46,800
but that doesn't necessarily 
mean your dog has to Working 

585
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,200
breed because there's a lot of 
great dogs that are not in the 

586
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:50,900
bracket. 
You see? 

587
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:52,100
Here we go again. 
Brackets. 

588
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:56,600
And boxes of dogs where we shove
them in of, this is a, you know,

589
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,200
hunting dogs, these are 
protection dogs. 

590
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,300
These are you know, pet dogs, 
you know, all these and I don't 

591
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:05,900
know all the categories but 
there's so many it's not limited

592
00:33:05,900 --> 00:33:08,600
to categories. 
It's more like is your dog 

593
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,400
willing to be to use his energy 
and like the Z willing to eat if

594
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,600
you want to play and more. 
Important is, what are you 

595
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,800
willing to get out of this? 
Are you willing to establish a 

596
00:33:21,808 --> 00:33:24,700
relationship with this dog, 
where you fulfill some of its 

597
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:26,500
purpose? 
What it's meant to do is be 

598
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:29,700
active is do things. 
This is be very intelligent 

599
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:33,700
about what he does. 
You know, move fast, be dynamic,

600
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,200
be symmetric to you, like all 
this guy is this? 

601
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,600
Something you're after and if 
the answer is yes, you want the 

602
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,200
most out of your dog. 
Well then where the people that 

603
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,300
can help you if you just want 
like playing pet obedience, just

604
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:51,100
Like you want just to sit and to
this day I walk that's not 

605
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,200
really what we do. 
We want to push ourselves 

606
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,100
further, we want to develop as 
handlers and so we can create 

607
00:33:58,100 --> 00:34:03,300
this unique experience with 
having a dog and and training 

608
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:06,700
it. 
So it becomes like an addiction.

609
00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:09,300
Almost, you know, you want to 
train this dog because now you 

610
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:11,600
find out every day. 
He can do so much more than you 

611
00:34:11,607 --> 00:34:14,699
initially thought. 
And this is, this is not limited

612
00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:18,199
to a certain group of dogs. 
Or a certain group of people. 

613
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,300
This is across the board but I 
would say the majority of the 

614
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:25,400
people, we train usually have a 
working breed but woodworking 

615
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,100
breed these days we talked about
bullies even Dobermans we talk 

616
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:31,300
about hotwire's Malinois as we 
talked about Border Collies, two

617
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:35,199
Labradors all hunting, that is 
so many, so many to to name some

618
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:36,800
breeds. 
I don't even recognize and 

619
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,400
they're getting like, whoa, you 
doing the same stuff that we do 

620
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,199
is great. 
So yeah, usually, just I would 

621
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:47,100
say, active dogs and also active
people that The most out of 

622
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:53,100
this. 
So perfect being in the unit, 

623
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:56,900
but also traveling around around
the world doing workshops giving

624
00:34:56,900 --> 00:35:00,700
trainings. 
Is there a nickname that got 

625
00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:04,500
stuck to yourself? 
That you can't get rid of a 

626
00:35:04,508 --> 00:35:08,800
Maverick or Iceman or how do 
people call you? 

627
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:12,100
No, no, we're not a Hardy. 
Call a DVD. 

628
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:15,000
It's not the Avengers yet were 
getting fancy. 

629
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,700
Make names, I don't know. 
Maybe I'm refers to the guy with

630
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:19,800
red shoes for people that don't 
know me. 

631
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,700
But other than that, I don't not
that I'm aware of. 

632
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:29,500
So they just call me Nina, 
usually great and getting up 

633
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:32,000
everyday. 
What keeps you motivated doing 

634
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,800
so many things? 
But this is all Mission Purpose 

635
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,200
Driven. 
Seriously, I don't even think 

636
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,200
about what I want to do. 
I think about what has to be 

637
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,100
done. 
And I know there's a bunch of 

638
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:45,200
dogs here that have to be 
worked. 

639
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,800
But I also know there's Many 
many students that need help 

640
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,300
that knee guidance every day, we
have messages of people, 

641
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:53,400
reaching out, how do I get what 
you do? 

642
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:55,900
How do we get this, you know, 
obedience? 

643
00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:58,100
How do we get this Bond? 
How do you get this connection? 

644
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:01,900
How to get this result? 
So people are genuinely worried 

645
00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:04,300
about extracting the potential 
from their dogs. 

646
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:07,300
They don't know how to start. 
They came in with high Ambitions

647
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,100
of, you know, of course 
motivation. 

648
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:11,900
But then of course, if you don't
have a blueprint, if you don't 

649
00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:14,800
have any guidance, you're going 
to be stuck really fast. 

650
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,200
And then they Panic comes 
because Because the dog is 

651
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,400
getting stronger, he's getting 
more powerful. 

652
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,100
Usually, if it's a bigger breed,
you're losing time, of course, 

653
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:26,000
because the dog is asking a lot.
If I talked to all the said, how

654
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,600
old is he? 
They say 0, 8 months, 10 months 

655
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,800
and that's not, I mean that's 
just starting. 

656
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:32,900
So what are you worried about it
yet? 

657
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,600
Students with nine year old dog 
doing incredible things, but I 

658
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,200
could see, you could see that. 
People can stress about this. 

659
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,000
And, you know, they are 
worrying. 

660
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000
So we get up in the morning and 
this is our motivation to, you 

661
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,600
know, make the best possible. 
Instructional videos to put on 

662
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,600
the best seminars because you 
know, with this is a mission, 

663
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,300
this is not like, oh, wow, wow, 
wow, I like to do this stuff. 

664
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:58,700
No even, you know, nobody likes 
to be in a plane for 10 hours, 

665
00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:02,700
14 hours, nobody likes to live 
in a hotel away from the family 

666
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,100
and and you know, be by yourself
the whole time and getting from 

667
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:10,900
one trip to the other ready but 
it's like you know you chose 

668
00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:13,600
this. 
You know, I was having a good 

669
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,200
job before this. 
So I wanted to do this. 

670
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:18,100
This. 
So it was a purpose. 

671
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,700
I already combined it and before
I gave all my holidays to spend 

672
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:25,200
on teaching and make this 
happen. 

673
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,900
So now this is all I do. 
So for me it's great. 

674
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:32,400
I don't ask myself this 
question, why anymore? 

675
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,300
If there is one word, you could 
choose, what would describe or 

676
00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:41,100
how would you describe yourself?
Yeah. 

677
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:43,400
It's what I just said is 
purpose-driven. 

678
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,200
And for me this herb is purpose.
Yeah, definitely will defeat the

679
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,500
pleasure. 
So for me, if if you say, I want

680
00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:54,700
to invite you for a holiday, 
it's what I won't get excited. 

681
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:58,400
I'm going to be honest with you,
they'll need the work is to 

682
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,100
pleasure as so I designed my 
life so I can work the way I 

683
00:38:03,107 --> 00:38:05,400
want to work. 
I don't have to, you know, 

684
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:07,500
listen to people. 
They tell me what to do or they 

685
00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:09,900
tell you what to do. 
All time do this Twitter, dog? 

686
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:11,700
Dude, is that what? 
I'll go stand there with your 

687
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:13,600
dog. 
Even, I mean, that's already a 

688
00:38:13,607 --> 00:38:16,400
dream job for most people do. 
They can take the dog, but then,

689
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,100
they still tell you what to do 
with the dog. 

690
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,700
So, no, those days are over and 
to me, that's the Permanent 

691
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:25,500
Vacation, the state. 
I'm retired, like mentally, I'm 

692
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:28,300
retired. 
Because even if I wouldn't make 

693
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:32,300
money for this, I'd still do it 
because this journey of helping 

694
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:34,900
people grow. 
See in my students have more 

695
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:37,500
followers than me, haven't you? 
No greater results. 

696
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:41,200
Even to me, that is exactly the 
reason why I said I wanted to do

697
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,700
this because I was you know in 
the worst position possible. 

698
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:48,600
When I was young 27 years old, I
wanted to train with dogs but I 

699
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,600
was afraid. 
I don't know. 

700
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,400
Buddy, where do I go? 
I go to a club, I go to this 

701
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,200
person. 
I asked, you know, it's the 

702
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,000
confusion. 
The, you know, the fear of 

703
00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:01,000
making mistakes, the fear of not
getting your results. 

704
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:05,300
Yeah, I had to buy DVDs, I had 
to do all this kind of stuff and

705
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:08,200
now I'm in a position to help 
people and I want to do it the 

706
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,100
best possible way I can. 
So I'm a freak when it comes to 

707
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:14,700
that. 
So but I guess you have to be a 

708
00:39:14,707 --> 00:39:19,200
little bit obsessed with your 
work if you want to do good for 

709
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,900
sure. 
So what what runs the engine do 

710
00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:25,400
you drink coffee. 
Do you drink alcohol or you a 

711
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,500
meat-eater? 
Any specific diets or the 

712
00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:32,200
reading workout? 
Cool questions. 

713
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,100
Nobody ever asked me that, they 
usually ask me. 

714
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,500
How do you train the dog? 
What do you see everything about

715
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:39,700
the dogs? 
Nobody asked you what I eat. 

716
00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:43,300
So this is Really cool. 
Yeah, I'm happy to tell you 

717
00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:45,200
that. 
I was not a coffee drinker. 

718
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,400
I never drink coffee in my life.
I didn't copy. 

719
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,100
So, can you imagine being at the
police working night shift? 

720
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:53,300
Not drinking calm coughing. 
That's it was, it was hard. 

721
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:56,600
Yeah. 
But I didn't sell, but I had to 

722
00:39:57,300 --> 00:40:00,900
lately because I work like 
sometimes 16 18 hour shifts and 

723
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:03,200
I was like, okay let me let me 
see what coffee does here a 

724
00:40:03,207 --> 00:40:05,400
little bit. 
I have to go slowly here, so I 

725
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,000
always do cappuccino or caffè 
macchiato. 

726
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,100
All right, so it's little bit 
more light. 

727
00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:13,400
Then the strong coffee and it 
helps me a little bit. 

728
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:21,900
So that's the only thing I do. 
I, I would say 80% vegetarian / 

729
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,200
pescetarian, so no meat 
sometimes. 

730
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:29,900
So, yeah, I've been vegan for a 
few months, it's really hard. 

731
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,000
We tried it for me, it's very 
hard, because if you're on the 

732
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,900
road and traveling, it's it's 
not easy. 

733
00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:40,100
Really even on the plane, it's 
if it's with eggs, it's not 

734
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:41,000
vegan, right? 
Right? 

735
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,700
So a cheese. 
It's not vegan. 

736
00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:43,500
Yeah. 
You see. 

737
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:46,300
So becomes a problem. 
So anyways, it was he. 

738
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,600
Yeah yeah. 
But I kind of it easy. 

739
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:50,700
What do you say? 
Sorry to interrupt. 

740
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:58,000
I'm vegan or vegetarian what if 
that's the right translation to 

741
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,600
English because I'm not a native
speaker. 

742
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,300
I speak Dutch. 
Yeah. 

743
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,900
Which I assume is an English, 
the same, which means you only 

744
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:07,500
eat fish. 
No meat. 

745
00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:09,200
So you eat fish. 
Yes, sir. 

746
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,100
You're not vegetarian because 
Eat fetch then but you're also 

747
00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:18,300
not vegan or whatever because 
you don't eat meat. 

748
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:19,400
That's the only thing you 
exclude. 

749
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,200
So they call this a pescatarian.
All right? 

750
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:26,400
Again, something learned. 
Yeah. 

751
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,900
And and apart from the dog 
training, which, which can be 

752
00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:37,700
physically, how to say 
struggling, sometimes the longer

753
00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:41,100
you do it, but you work out, at 
least you look like, Your ears 

754
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:42,700
for Takei? 
Yeah. 

755
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:46,400
Well I've been working out 
forever because when I was a 

756
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,700
kid, my best friend who lived 
above me, he was an Olympian. 

757
00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:53,900
He was a 200 meter Runner, so he
had the body, like an Olympian 

758
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,800
Greek god. 
Right. 

759
00:41:56,100 --> 00:42:00,100
And of course, I was just a 
skinny guy and I realized if you

760
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:02,800
ever want to come close to 
looking like him, you're going 

761
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,100
to probably have to do a lot of 
things that he does. 

762
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,600
So I was luckily, you know, able
to spend a lot of time with him,

763
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,700
you took me to his LG took me to
his world, he introduced me to 

764
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:16,600
his friends and then if you're 
introduced to people with a 

765
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,600
certain lifestyle, you become 
that. 

766
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:23,600
So to me, I only had met people 
that ate claim that worked out 

767
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,600
that, you know, were very 
driven, very disciplined, very 

768
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,200
focused. 
So to me that became the norm. 

769
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,800
And then, I had a relationship 
10-year relationship with 

770
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,700
Belgian Runner champion, 
eight-time champion, you know, 

771
00:42:37,700 --> 00:42:41,200
very high-level Runner. 
So to me, it was Was like, this 

772
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,000
is what we do. 
So it was a very, very I would 

773
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,500
say, you know, we didn't do 
anything. 

774
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:47,900
We didn't spend money within go 
on holidays. 

775
00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:51,500
All we did was train, eat clean 
train seven days a week. 

776
00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:53,900
It was like for most people 
would be a nightmare. 

777
00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:58,700
For me is the best time ever. 
So only focus on one thing and 

778
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:03,200
just so that that that mindset 
on how driven people can be to 

779
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,700
achieve something, it takes it 
takes over like you think about 

780
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:08,700
it day and night? 
You wake up. 

781
00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:10,300
You think about it. 
You think everything. 

782
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,000
She makes of here's I gotta take
rest years, where I gotta eat, 

783
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,800
here's where everything has to 
do with what you want to 

784
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,500
achieve. 
And for me, it was just getting 

785
00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:22,100
closer to the level of, you 
know, my inspiration, my friend 

786
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,500
and my girlfriend at the time 
for, you know, very disciplined 

787
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:28,800
people and that I think stuck 
with me forever. 

788
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:33,100
So I always knew if she wants 
something gonna have to work 

789
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:36,900
really hard so in comparison to 
a doing dog training on. 

790
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:39,800
Let's say high level, you know, 
a lot of training professionally

791
00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:43,100
and If I look back and if you 
want to become Olympian for 

792
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:46,400
example, or try to be, right? 
It's very different. 

793
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,200
It's still a huge gap between a 
few things, dog, training is 

794
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,400
hard. 
Try being alone Pian, then you 

795
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,700
know what's hard and what's 
Technical and what's gonna you 

796
00:43:54,707 --> 00:43:58,500
know keep your mind hundred 
percent at the time in doubt 

797
00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:01,600
you're going to make it you're 
going to do it anyway so it's 

798
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,400
just overwhelming if you want to
achieve something and aim high 

799
00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:08,900
and of course I didn't make it. 
Not even close but then go into 

800
00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:11,700
dog training. 
I was like, well, well, I 

801
00:44:11,707 --> 00:44:14,200
wouldn't say he's, you've got 
nothing like I said before, 

802
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,900
nothing is easy, but it's 
definitely not as hard as trying

803
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:20,400
to become. 
So I think from that mindset 

804
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,300
also, when I came and saw people
work dogs, really, I thought, 

805
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:25,600
okay, what kind of technical 
level? 

806
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,400
Because of course, when I tried 
run, I first. 

807
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,100
I thought. 
Okay, run. 

808
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:31,400
Just as fast as you can. 
It's easy, right? 

809
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,400
No. 
No, it's not that easy. 

810
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:35,000
Okay. 
The way your hip moves, the way 

811
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,500
you push your feet into the 
tarmac. 

812
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:40,100
The way your Technique is in the
bend, your body. 

813
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,100
He liked it was just a man 
service. 

814
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:49,600
Whoa, It's So I completely 
underestimated that and then of 

815
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,600
course, I keep became a freak to
to understand this technique to 

816
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,600
push myself. 
I wasn't like very very gifted 

817
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,200
even though I thought I could 
run fast. 

818
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,600
When you look at the fastest 
Runners you're very slow right? 

819
00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:04,300
And then yeah it's a 
disappointment but I never let 

820
00:45:04,300 --> 00:45:07,000
it you know get to me so but 
then I went, I saw people 

821
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,800
training dogs. 
I was like, okay, how hard is 

822
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,200
this technical level? 
Because I Of course, I assume 

823
00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:14,800
also to be very, very high. 
And I was surprised that wasn't 

824
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,300
and actually, it was the people 
that were good at it. 

825
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:19,600
They didn't even know what they 
were doing. 

826
00:45:19,900 --> 00:45:22,500
It's not like they were thinking
consciously before about the 

827
00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:24,400
footwork, the handwork the 
coordination. 

828
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,300
And I think this is what set me 
apart a little bit, because the 

829
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:31,000
way I processed movement, the 
way I saw Katie, this is risk 

830
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,200
control. 
This is your footwork. 

831
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,000
This is where your explosiveness
can come in to help. 

832
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,200
This is where you set the pace 
for the dog to speed. 

833
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,100
All that kind of stuff to me. 
A comes from my true passion. 

834
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,100
When it comes from running. 
So that's where I got this 

835
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:44,700
passion. 
I want everything to go fast, I 

836
00:45:44,707 --> 00:45:47,200
need to be clean, I need to be 
perfect, right? 

837
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,400
The perfect raise the perfect 
track, the perfect time, the 

838
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,200
perfect you know, its Elegance 
in your running everything and I

839
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,600
was looking in my subconscious 
of course for the same thing 

840
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,400
because I was not the athlete 
anymore was a dog, the dog had 

841
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,200
to do everything that I want to 
do be fast, be dynamic. 

842
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:11,300
Be explosive, you know and so 
now a chance to To have my dog 

843
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:14,100
become the athlete. 
So I was very technical on what 

844
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:18,300
the dog needed to be. 
So and this is what I, what I've

845
00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:21,100
done is for so many years and I 
had to think, okay, when people 

846
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:24,800
started asking me after the 
First videos on Facebook, 14 

847
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,700
years ago, and they asked me, 
how do you do it? 

848
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:31,100
How I was like, okay, let me 
think because to me, it was at 

849
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:33,900
that time already normally? 
Yeah, it's yeah. 

850
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:36,700
So and now, of course it's, you 
know, people know what I do, 

851
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:40,400
mostly, I use the hand work, the
worst work, the controls, Role 

852
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,800
of the hand feet, you know, all 
this conscious coordination, and

853
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,400
then it becomes subconscious, 
that's when it becomes easier, 

854
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,100
because then, you can add more 
complex tasks to it. 

855
00:46:50,500 --> 00:46:53,700
And, and doing the police work, 
I think police work is hugely 

856
00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:56,600
underestimated. 
I heard you also are involved 

857
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,300
and the reason why is because 
you're facing the same 

858
00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:02,800
challenges as any dog trainer / 
coach, right? 

859
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,700
Because you have to extract this
potential for a dog, you have to

860
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,200
you know get into a dive into 
the skull. 

861
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,900
But on top of that you have your
all your police skills. 

862
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,000
So for you there's more 
combinations of skill and then 

863
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,600
there's a one very, very 
important factor that nobody 

864
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,500
else faces is you have a 
constant threat if you're 

865
00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:23,500
dealing with, you know, Patrol 
dogs, for example, or violence 

866
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:27,000
threats, whatever. 
There's a stress factor and we 

867
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,400
all know what stress does. 
It can diminish your 

868
00:47:30,700 --> 00:47:36,200
competencies or your skills to 
very basic or zero if your to 

869
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,800
stress because then you cannot 
access your new skills any 

870
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,500
longer. 
Our, and this is why dog 

871
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:44,800
handling is actually very, very 
hard on a high level with the 

872
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,500
police because you have to use 
your police kills. 

873
00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:48,700
You have to use your new dog 
skills. 

874
00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:50,900
You have to assess the threat, 
you have to communicate, you 

875
00:47:50,908 --> 00:47:53,500
have to make right decisions. 
You have so many things and if 

876
00:47:53,500 --> 00:47:57,600
you don't consciously focus on 
what these components are they 

877
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,100
going to, you know, be in your 
way, you're probably going to 

878
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:03,000
struggle more than you're having
fun. 

879
00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:06,400
I remember this is a true quote.
From one of my students at the 

880
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,400
police when I was an instructor 
they said I thought it was Going

881
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,200
to be fun, you see? 
Okay, so I asked them what do 

882
00:48:14,207 --> 00:48:16,000
you mean? 
You said it was your dream. 

883
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,900
They said yes but I thought this
was going to be fun and of 

884
00:48:19,908 --> 00:48:21,700
course, nobody wants to feel 
stressed. 

885
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,300
If I give you areö like a true 
scenario, worse, things can go 

886
00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:28,300
wrong and they will go wrong 
over there were threats towards 

887
00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:32,000
your physical integrity and now 
you have to make big decisions 

888
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,400
right now all of a sudden this 
is not so fun anymore and I see 

889
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,000
that it's not fun know who wants
to be in that position. 

890
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,500
Taking these decisions where you
could either hurt somebody or 

891
00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:45,800
get hurt, or this is not a fun 
thing to do. 

892
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,200
So I can feel the stress because
I've been there. 

893
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:52,500
Mmm. 
This reminds me on something 

894
00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:58,800
that pet Noland quoted when he 
was into the bird dog training 

895
00:48:59,300 --> 00:49:03,800
and they were working heaps of 
dogs every day and he had cold 

896
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,700
trainers. 
In one of these trainer said, I 

897
00:49:07,700 --> 00:49:13,000
will quit after this season 
because this is hard work and 

898
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,000
people who are getting into the 
business. 

899
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:19,600
Well, maybe sometimes they just 
under estimate. 

900
00:49:19,700 --> 00:49:24,500
That this is real work, people 
smile at you and say, well, you 

901
00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:29,000
you live the dream, you're a dog
trainer, but it's hard work and 

902
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,900
it's in it's not always fun and 
it doesn't have to be always 

903
00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:36,900
fun. 
I guess it's a lot of discipline

904
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:42,000
and gaining skills and Yea 
Somali no gain. 

905
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:45,300
I guess you have the performance
always exists of four 

906
00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:49,200
components, which is Town your 
combination of skills then the 

907
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,300
passion you have. 
After you have the energy to get

908
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:54,200
of energy. 
So forget everybody everything 

909
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,400
else if you don't have energy no
passion forget about any 

910
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,800
performance. 
Then comes focus and discipline.

911
00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:02,900
All this is binary. 
You miss one of those. 

912
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:06,000
You're never going to get the 
best performance never ever. 

913
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,900
Ever. 
Same for the Olympian story that

914
00:50:07,900 --> 00:50:09,900
I told you. 
If one of these components are 

915
00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:14,100
missing, forget about it, you're
not going to be even close to 

916
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,800
being on any Olympian level 
impossible and that quote across

917
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,900
the board, of course, And 
anything you want to do? 

918
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:23,800
You want to do it very well? 
You need those components. 

919
00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:27,100
So then of course, first 
question is what skills? 

920
00:50:27,100 --> 00:50:28,600
Then what skills you talking 
about? 

921
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,400
Let's do analysis and depth, 
passion. 

922
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,300
This is not something you can 
just get like you either have 

923
00:50:34,300 --> 00:50:37,400
this or not. 
This is like this subconscious. 

924
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:40,700
You know, thing. 
It's, you get up and you're 

925
00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:43,900
energized. 
Because you, you read something 

926
00:50:43,900 --> 00:50:46,200
in a while. 
It's something that inspired 

927
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:46,900
you. 
Whatever it is. 

928
00:50:46,900 --> 00:50:49,200
It gets you up. 
You want it so bad. 

929
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,000
You Get energy. 
Even if you're tired, you get 

930
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,900
energy of this and you know, 
it's a very important component 

931
00:50:55,900 --> 00:50:59,300
that we have hardly any 
influence on as a coach as a 

932
00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:03,000
trainer as an instructor. 
So when people come and they 

933
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,400
want to learn the skills but 
they have no passion through 

934
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,100
passion. 
It's always harder for them, 

935
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,400
always harder because if they 
are long days, if there is a lot

936
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,700
of repetitions, if they, if it 
does get tough and you don't 

937
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:16,700
have the energy forget about 
time. 

938
00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:19,600
If you are thinking, you have to
good time management but you're 

939
00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:22,200
Energy is low. 
It's irrelevant. 

940
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,700
You need to high energy. 
It's more important. 

941
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,100
Now, of course, you have 
siblings. 

942
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:32,000
No, oh yeah. 
Well, I've two sisters here and 

943
00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:37,700
are they all so sporty? 
Or was it really this, and this 

944
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:42,800
young friend of yours that got 
you into into this, in this 

945
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,400
closed circle of very sporty, 
very efficient? 

946
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,600
Yeah, I was your honeymoon thing
is nobody in my family. 

947
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:51,200
There's any kind of sport. 
Okay. 

948
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,900
No it's not that then my sister 
is a lawyer so she likes to she 

949
00:51:55,900 --> 00:52:01,900
likes to study a lot, so but no 
nobody, nobody any. 

950
00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:05,300
So, I have any, any purpose of 
in sport, whatever. 

951
00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:09,300
So, but of course, this, this 
young kid influencing being 

952
00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:12,500
influenced by an Olympian, I 
don't have to tell you, this is 

953
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:14,400
life-changing defining 
everything. 

954
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,300
Of course, I had to go back, 
right? 

955
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:19,400
As a coach have to, you know, 
assess my life for myself, like,

956
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,700
how Do you get like to answer 
your question? 

957
00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:24,600
So, I know very well, where this
comes from and I talk to him 

958
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,300
sometimes. 
And I said, Eric, you know, man,

959
00:52:26,700 --> 00:52:30,000
this is all thanks to you, but 
he doesn't understand because 

960
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,700
she was just being himself, 
right? 

961
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,300
He doesn't understand the 
impact. 

962
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:37,800
Somebody has who you look up to 
and then, you know, he gives you

963
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,800
all these subconscious traits 
that you follow up, you know, 

964
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,500
about the diet about the 
workout, about the ethics about 

965
00:52:44,500 --> 00:52:46,700
the morals and, you know, an 
achievement. 

966
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:50,800
So and there's also with you 
They're the circle closes. 

967
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,600
Also, what you told me about the
clubs and obviously their you 

968
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,100
didn't find find the right 
energy. 

969
00:52:57,100 --> 00:52:59,800
It wasn't the right surrounding 
to. 

970
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,300
Yeah, to grow. 
And I think that's, you know, 

971
00:53:04,300 --> 00:53:10,700
sometimes it seems to be a 
little bit non-social now, but I

972
00:53:10,707 --> 00:53:13,700
think it's, if you want to 
achieve something, it's 

973
00:53:13,700 --> 00:53:16,300
important to look out for the 
right group, for the right 

974
00:53:16,300 --> 00:53:22,200
peers, to be with, to be able to
To gain the energy and be 

975
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,400
disciplined to work on your 
goals. 

976
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:30,800
And sometimes it's just hard to 
leave this ballast. 

977
00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:36,200
And Yeah, I think there's a 
there's a you know, it's so much

978
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:40,000
truth in what you say is finding
that right group, that were your

979
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:43,400
personality fits in, where your 
control mechanism is not going 

980
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,400
in overdrive because of the 
stress, these people add on to 

981
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,700
you or you don't agree with 
whatever they say and you want 

982
00:53:49,700 --> 00:53:52,600
you respect the people but maybe
you don't respect the method and

983
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,300
see or first conflict already, 
okay. 

984
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,000
So these people want to help you
have a good relationship with 

985
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,900
them whatever. 
So you they generally like you 

986
00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:03,300
vice versa not to tell you. 
Hey, do this. 

987
00:54:03,700 --> 00:54:06,600
I know it works. 
And you're new to this and you 

988
00:54:06,607 --> 00:54:10,100
don't agree and you're thinking,
oh, no, no, no, please, I don't 

989
00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:11,800
want to do this and they sell 
you. 

990
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,900
All right, you ready? 
Where you going to say? 

991
00:54:13,900 --> 00:54:18,400
As a young guy young woman where
you going to say, dilemma, 

992
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,400
dilemma of so many young 
handlers especially in, in 

993
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,200
police or military because they 
want to be a dog handler and 

994
00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:28,000
they have this gut feeling? 
Yeah, some of these things are 

995
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,300
just not, right. 
Yeah. 

996
00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:32,800
And it's such a difficult point,
but I think that Could be a 

997
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,400
great topic on itself in a Zone.
Yes, but it's, this is all 

998
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,100
human. 
Psychology has nothing to do 

999
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:42,300
with the doctor of the method. 
They don't know, you know, let 

1000
00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:45,600
it be good, bad, whatever 
confusing that, you know, this 

1001
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,400
all of a sudden you're getting 
this whole mechanism playing and

1002
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,700
the psychology like it driver 
mechanisms and all the stuff 

1003
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:55,900
that the professor has taught me
Mark. 

1004
00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:59,800
Who I am, you know, I see as 
also one of my big mentors, 

1005
00:55:00,700 --> 00:55:04,000
she's phenomenal guy. 
He's He's done, as he's made 

1006
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,200
psychometric tools. 
Scientifically had been 

1007
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,600
validated to scan to assess 
people's towns. 

1008
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:14,100
Professional talents phenomenal.
So I was very lucky to work with

1009
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:17,800
him to travel with him to study 
under him very grateful for what

1010
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,200
this man. 
What the hit this insights were 

1011
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,500
what he also brought to the 
table for developing the master 

1012
00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:26,800
view so you know a lot of 
respect for him as well. 

1013
00:55:26,900 --> 00:55:30,700
So also one of my big 
influencers on creating this 

1014
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:33,800
system because I also thought 
Not like anybody else. 

1015
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,300
It's about the dog right? 
We get we get the the people to 

1016
00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:40,300
do the right things with the dog
and the dogs going to do it. 

1017
00:55:40,300 --> 00:55:44,200
You get the results. 
No no so he it's the the 

1018
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,100
psychology, the way you develop 
talents what is going to hinder 

1019
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:52,400
you from developing what is 
going to you know set you back. 

1020
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,900
Why you are stagnating all this 
kind of stuff. 

1021
00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:57,900
What kind of coaching you need? 
What kind of energy, you can 

1022
00:55:57,900 --> 00:56:01,100
build a growth mindset versus 
fixed mites. 

1023
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:04,400
All these kind of things such 
Such a huge impact on any 

1024
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,200
performance you will ever do to 
neglect that part. 

1025
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,700
To me, it doesn't belong into 
what then I would call Modern 

1026
00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:13,400
dog training. 
If you're saying modern dog 

1027
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,500
training and you're only talking
about motor skills for dogs. 

1028
00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:19,600
You're only talking about stuff 
on how to do and tools and all 

1029
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,500
the stuff for the dog. 
I'm sorry. 

1030
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,400
That is nothing to do with 
modern. 

1031
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,800
This is what something people 
have been doing for decades and 

1032
00:56:25,808 --> 00:56:29,400
decades and decades and what 
they've written books and books,

1033
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,600
hundreds, and hundreds. 
It's all coming back. 

1034
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:32,700
It's all the same. 
Of. 

1035
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:36,700
But positive psychology, for 
example, has only been studied 

1036
00:56:36,700 --> 00:56:41,900
since the early 2000s. 
So I mean the way they re have 

1037
00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:44,700
developed, you know, if you look
at the Olympian disciplines, for

1038
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:47,600
example, how they have reached 
out to external Consultants to 

1039
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,200
help them with the performance, 
had nothing to do with the 

1040
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,500
technical part of their 
mechanics that they had to put 

1041
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:55,000
in play. 
But it was very important 

1042
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,800
psychology for them to perform 
on the highest level to keep 

1043
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,700
developing Etc. 
This is something Doctrine has 

1044
00:57:01,700 --> 00:57:02,600
never been done. 
Done. 

1045
00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:06,400
And I know why if it's there's 
no money in dog training like 

1046
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,600
who's going to go and reach out 
these external? 

1047
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,100
Like let's say for example the 
professor was not passionate 

1048
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:17,000
about dogs and I would ask a 
professor I'm interested in your

1049
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,700
stuff and your work and your 
research and your life's 

1050
00:57:19,900 --> 00:57:22,200
achievements. 
Can you come into my world? 

1051
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,300
And I will pay you as a 
consultant. 

1052
00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:29,100
I mean this would be 
unaffordable this kind of level.

1053
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,100
Okay. 
So you need you need to look to 

1054
00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:34,900
meet these people that have the 
same And then they want to help 

1055
00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:39,300
you almost, you know, for free 
because they want to also give 

1056
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,200
their information and because 
else, you know, unless you're 

1057
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,800
talking about Olympian 
disciplines that have money 

1058
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,500
involved or that have many eyes 
on them, it's going to happen. 

1059
00:57:50,500 --> 00:57:53,900
But in the case of dog training,
not so likely, that's why we 

1060
00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:57,000
have stagnated. 
I think we can fairly say Doc, 

1061
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,000
training evolve, the way we want
to make it. 

1062
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,100
Look like it's evolved and 
words. 

1063
00:58:02,500 --> 00:58:06,200
Revolutionary modern they could 
I'm sorry. 

1064
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,100
It's not not actually, there's 
many transcripts that prove it 

1065
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:14,900
is. 
Not priests can pre Pavlov and 

1066
00:58:14,900 --> 00:58:19,400
even if you even if you refer to
Skinner and Pavlov, then 

1067
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,100
definitely do not use the word 
modern. 

1068
00:58:21,700 --> 00:58:26,100
These people are decades ago. 
So have they done significant 

1069
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:28,600
things that give you insights 
and behavior? 

1070
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:29,700
Absolutely. 
Yes. 

1071
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,800
Do you need to study them as a 
professional? 

1072
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:37,000
Yes, but you need to prioritize 
this in a framework where you 

1073
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:41,300
are given people new trainers. 
The, you know, the physical 

1074
00:58:41,300 --> 00:58:44,300
tools to start learning and 
achieving and I would say, 

1075
00:58:44,300 --> 00:58:50,000
actually they don't go on number
one, spot for me for me because 

1076
00:58:50,700 --> 00:58:53,200
I would, you always have to look
at how did you get your results 

1077
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,100
yourself? 
Did you read books? 

1078
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,000
Did you study these people first
or the day? 

1079
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:02,200
You're like your Idols or date? 
The people you wanted to become 

1080
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,700
But they're scientists, you can 
become them so you can't idolize

1081
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:08,300
the science, right? 
So but it's good, if you read 

1082
00:59:08,300 --> 00:59:11,100
them, you have cognitive skill. 
It goes into the bracket of 

1083
00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:14,100
cognitive skills, but it's not 
going to help you on the spot 

1084
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:16,900
with the dog and high drive or 
whatever technique you have to 

1085
00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:18,600
pull off. 
It's going to be meaningless. 

1086
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,300
So where are you now? 
Could all different pillows. 

1087
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,100
Yeah, and that's a trigger 
books. 

1088
00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:30,200
And before you, you mentioned 
that when training dogs, you're 

1089
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,000
not just listening to music 
you're listening to Podcasts or 

1090
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,600
audiobooks. 
What are you listening or 

1091
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,900
reading to right now. 
So right now, any any 

1092
00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:43,700
recommendations or ever turn 
recommendations. 

1093
00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:49,200
But you know, the book that I 
like a lot that I really enjoyed

1094
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,000
the audiobook because like I 
said during the workout it's 

1095
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,000
listen one that really stuck 
with me. 

1096
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,900
Was my God. 
What's his name again? 

1097
01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:03,200
I just had a black God on his 
name. 

1098
01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:06,600
I was just about to say it. 
I mean, the the Navy SEAL guy, 

1099
01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:11,600
he got his book chuckling. 
Now, the other one, I will his 

1100
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:17,100
book also the other one. 
General McChrystal? 

1101
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:21,100
I think already read it twice 
now. 

1102
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,200
Yeah. 
Sometimes a little of like that.

1103
01:00:23,900 --> 01:00:27,900
Come on, are we we can get the 
runner to the marathon runner 

1104
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:33,700
who also done the marathon. 
I could, I recommend this book 

1105
01:00:33,700 --> 01:00:36,400
to so many people now and I can 
come up with his name. 

1106
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,000
I just got a little, like, a hee
hee. 

1107
01:00:40,300 --> 01:00:44,400
There are also many interesting 
short interviews with him and 

1108
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:50,400
short reels on, but I think I 
know who you mean, he's bald. 

1109
01:00:50,900 --> 01:00:53,800
Yeah, it's a shame. 
I don't. 

1110
01:00:53,900 --> 01:00:56,600
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna come 
before the ending song. 

1111
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,800
It's an extraordinary 
extraordinary guy. 

1112
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,000
Yeah. 
It's it's saying do you have 

1113
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,300
already shared a quote from one 
of your students? 

1114
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:12,700
But can you share a quote that 
It's always in your mind that 

1115
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:18,800
keeps you on point and helps you
to keep others on point. 

1116
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:22,500
Is there some yeah? 
Massively or something? 

1117
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,500
Oh yeah, absolutely. 
Because you know life upon your 

1118
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,400
when you're young they tell you 
enjoy, right? 

1119
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,400
A have to enjoy. 
You have to, you know, eat well 

1120
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,000
you have to do fun things. 
You have to enjoy a glass of 

1121
01:01:36,008 --> 01:01:39,600
beer or wine, whatever. 
And all of these things do not 

1122
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,300
align with the purpose that I 
have. 

1123
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,300
And the purpose is, in this 
case, I want to, you know, 

1124
01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:47,100
achieve things with my dog's, I 
want to make videos. 

1125
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:51,100
I want to do all this stuff and 
all of that stuff is going 

1126
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:54,800
hand-in-hand with the pleasure. 
And the problem is, if you have 

1127
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,800
a lot of pleasure, the whole 
time you go on trips, you go on,

1128
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,700
you do fun stuff with your 
friends. 

1129
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,500
Everything is cool. 
Everything is it you know, fun 

1130
01:02:02,500 --> 01:02:05,400
and games. 
It sets you off track and I've 

1131
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,300
seen that in the on the Olympian
level. 

1132
01:02:07,300 --> 01:02:10,900
Also the More fun. 
They have the less good things 

1133
01:02:10,900 --> 01:02:13,300
happen for them so but that's 
alright. 

1134
01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:16,300
If you're chasing fun things 
that's that's totally fine. 

1135
01:02:16,700 --> 01:02:21,100
But I look for, you know, I'm on
a mission and I look for a 

1136
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,900
certain purpose. 
So for me the purpose exceeds 

1137
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:27,400
the pleasure. 
So purpose over, pleasure is a 

1138
01:02:27,408 --> 01:02:31,900
quote that I really like because
it aligns a lot with what I want

1139
01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:37,200
to achieve and and sometimes you
know 365 working 16 hours a day.

1140
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,200
It's not. 
Not people think, I'm always 

1141
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,900
kidding. 
I'm not I wake up and I think 

1142
01:02:41,900 --> 01:02:45,600
about my work and I go to bed 
and I am still thinking about 

1143
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,200
it. 
So of course now with shift a 

1144
01:02:48,207 --> 01:02:50,500
little bit before I only had to 
worry about my own dog. 

1145
01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:53,800
Now I have to worry about so 
many other things that of course

1146
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:59,000
I need more and II know it's 
something that I think if I get 

1147
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:03,300
older because I am, you know, 
already 44, you know, I'm not 

1148
01:03:03,300 --> 01:03:07,100
taking a lot of pleasure but 
then again, if I would, would I 

1149
01:03:07,107 --> 01:03:09,900
be happier? 
I think at this point, my 

1150
01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:13,900
purpose is given me the pleasure
and and once again I'm on the 

1151
01:03:13,900 --> 01:03:18,400
same level as I was when I was 
very young, you know, trying to 

1152
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:24,300
pursue my athletic dream and I'm
back where I was and then was it

1153
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:28,700
was, it was crazy routine. 
Crazy, it was sleep. 

1154
01:03:28,700 --> 01:03:32,300
Eat train work, always the same 
thing and I was very, very 

1155
01:03:32,300 --> 01:03:35,800
happy, happiest time of my life 
and I'm back C. 

1156
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,100
So for me it started Any things 
in perspective? 

1157
01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:42,700
Yes, I watched movies before 
them between. 

1158
01:03:42,700 --> 01:03:47,000
I had some fun, you know, try to
find what I could do to feel 

1159
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,200
better and stuff. 
Nothing makes me feel better 

1160
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,000
than, you know, seeing how we 
are work. 

1161
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,700
Can grow into what you 
envisioned it to be your the 

1162
01:03:55,707 --> 01:03:58,000
same for your dog. 
If I have a puppy and I see this

1163
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,700
puppy, develop becomes this dog.
That is now inspiration for so 

1164
01:04:01,700 --> 01:04:04,800
many people to me that purpose 
defeats anything. 

1165
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,400
So that's how I live. 
Nice. 

1166
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:16,600
I still can't remember the name 
of the guy but I know who you're

1167
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:22,400
talking about. 
Yeah, Nina. 

1168
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,100
Do you do you have other pets 
than dogs? 

1169
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,100
Yeah. 
Well, The Palms are pets. 

1170
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,300
They, you know, they don't have 
the working life. 

1171
01:04:32,900 --> 01:04:36,500
The working life to me is well, 
they also just like us, we have 

1172
01:04:36,500 --> 01:04:38,600
to perform certain tasks right 
there. 

1173
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,000
Working dogs. 
They have to move certain ways. 

1174
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,000
You have to Things that have to 
learn new skills to have to get 

1175
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,700
achievements done and stuff like
that. 

1176
01:04:46,700 --> 01:04:49,300
So they I mean they can't just 
hang around do whatever they 

1177
01:04:49,300 --> 01:04:53,300
want so you train them. 
Well, that's the thing. 

1178
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:57,700
Not so much because there's so 
little I like them more likely 

1179
01:04:57,700 --> 01:05:00,400
to pet him the whole time 
because I do like pet dogs. 

1180
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,700
Like it's something that eases 
the mind when you're petting a 

1181
01:05:03,700 --> 01:05:05,200
dog. 
I love, I love dogs. 

1182
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,900
Like to have the dog little dog 
on my lap. 

1183
01:05:07,900 --> 01:05:13,500
My my chest and then it puts his
It's not like in your neck and 

1184
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:16,400
it's like relaxing. 
Whoo, it's this is the best 

1185
01:05:16,500 --> 01:05:20,100
ever. 
So I can enjoy this too, but the

1186
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:23,000
thing is, with the, with the 
working dogs, it's more like, 

1187
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,900
hey, these guys are real, they 
have raw energy that brought 

1188
01:05:26,900 --> 01:05:30,300
instincts, they want, they want 
something they want fast. 

1189
01:05:30,300 --> 01:05:33,900
Okay, let's find a good way for 
both me. 

1190
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,700
I get, you know, to extract 
their potential. 

1191
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,100
They can do what they love. 
It's a win-win situation, but 

1192
01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:44,800
it's also serious like John you 
don't just go and open the door 

1193
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,400
of the kennel or the crate, 
whatever. 

1194
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,000
And then. 
All right, you can do whatever 

1195
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,600
you want. 
It's very, very strict. 

1196
01:05:51,500 --> 01:05:53,500
So and this is sort of 
discipline. 

1197
01:05:53,500 --> 01:05:56,400
I also use for them, you know, 
it's the same for me. 

1198
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,900
Also goes for them. 
You have to first do this video 

1199
01:05:58,900 --> 01:06:02,300
and then you can pull. 
Problem is the more doc you have

1200
01:06:02,900 --> 01:06:04,400
the harder it is to organize 
this. 

1201
01:06:04,500 --> 01:06:07,900
If I always say, if you have big
Ambitions like series big 

1202
01:06:07,900 --> 01:06:12,200
Ambitions one dog one dog. 
And he's Going to consume all 

1203
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,000
your time and but the results 
you get then with this one, dog.

1204
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:20,400
Yeah, they can be phenomenal, 
but the problem I have to divide

1205
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,400
my focus on four or five 
different, it's too much. 

1206
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,000
Actually, I'm going to tell you 
the truth. 

1207
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:29,800
Like, I can manage it, but it's 
not ideal, but I want to see my 

1208
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,600
old dog. 
Never going to, of course, give 

1209
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,800
up my old dog and the labrador, 
have the other dogs, also the 

1210
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,500
training. 
So I have to, I have to, it's 

1211
01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:40,400
like they don't have a choice, 
but if you want ultimate 

1212
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:44,400
performance, Ultimate control. 
I would recommend one dog. 

1213
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:49,300
You you prepare these young girl
talks for, for other handlers? 

1214
01:06:49,300 --> 01:06:52,700
So would you hand them on to 
someone else? 

1215
01:06:52,700 --> 01:06:57,500
Or are they your projects and 
your demonstration, docks? 

1216
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,800
Yeah, they're my project. 
And some of these dogs over time

1217
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:06,400
I could say, okay, maybe they 
can go by the other Handler who 

1218
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,700
has certain Ambitions. 
That I feel belong with this 

1219
01:07:09,700 --> 01:07:12,000
dog, and I cannot give It to 
this dog. 

1220
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,600
Because, you know, I have a 
different structure, different, 

1221
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:18,500
you know, type of set up here. 
So, it's very movement oriented.

1222
01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:23,300
It's very high drive oriented. 
So because, you know, I need to 

1223
01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:25,300
Showcase what the dog is capable
of. 

1224
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,800
And, you know, at some point. 
Okay, I cannot keep all the dogs

1225
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,400
here because I need continuous 
puppies, young dogs to show 

1226
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:37,400
stuff and then yeah, sometimes I
saw a dog sometimes I give away 

1227
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:45,300
your dog, depends. 
So so you're in the dog training

1228
01:07:45,300 --> 01:07:50,700
business for, for quite some 
years now, and we talked about 

1229
01:07:50,700 --> 01:07:58,600
the traditional Club world's 
police work etc and also about 

1230
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:04,700
the modern way of dog training, 
but, I talked with pet Stewart 

1231
01:08:04,700 --> 01:08:07,500
about that. 
Innovation is not always helpful

1232
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:12,800
at least sometimes it's helpful 
in concerning that you find out 

1233
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:18,000
that all the ways also made good
good progress. 

1234
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:23,200
And is there anything that 
hasn't changed since you started

1235
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,600
with dog training? 
But it just still works, it just

1236
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,899
still does a good job. 
Well, of course, you know, 

1237
01:08:30,899 --> 01:08:35,800
you're not going to change. 
Horror of how you can get along 

1238
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,399
with a dog and that's pretty 
easy. 

1239
01:08:38,500 --> 01:08:42,700
And in terms of either, you're 
going to give him something or 

1240
01:08:42,700 --> 01:08:44,300
going to take something away 
from him. 

1241
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,000
Are you going to correct them? 
So yes. 

1242
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:50,200
So I don't think you need it to 
be a scientist to understand, 

1243
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,500
that's how the animal operates. 
So of course, it's going to be 

1244
01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:55,600
either food driven, it's going 
to be ball driven or you're 

1245
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,200
going to have to use tools. 
So and I know it's always going 

1246
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,600
back to that same story. 
And of course, if you ask me to 

1247
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,000
you, you put of course. 
Sin. 

1248
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,100
Does this guy hundred years ago,
use food probably does if he's 

1249
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:08,300
smart. 
All right, so what did you use 

1250
01:09:08,300 --> 01:09:10,399
something? 
That was attached to the dog to 

1251
01:09:10,500 --> 01:09:12,700
have a connected and to not have
the dog run away? 

1252
01:09:12,700 --> 01:09:15,000
Yes, they do this 100 years ago.
Yes. 

1253
01:09:15,500 --> 01:09:18,399
So in those terms. 
Yeah, pretty much has been the 

1254
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:24,200
same but in other terms on how 
you develop these skills 

1255
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,899
specifically in a manner and 
your here's where the 

1256
01:09:26,899 --> 01:09:31,800
differences so you can have 
these results faster and better 

1257
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,600
and more. 
Mission, while doing less effort

1258
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,100
than somebody else and and the 
dogs happier and you're happier 

1259
01:09:39,100 --> 01:09:41,100
and the energy exchanges even 
higher. 

1260
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,300
Now, you're talking about 
variables that were not talked 

1261
01:09:44,300 --> 01:09:48,000
and discussed many, many decades
ago at least it's in the 

1262
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,899
literature, so if it's not in 
literature, there's no videos 

1263
01:09:50,899 --> 01:09:53,300
right now. 
We have the luxury to find 

1264
01:09:53,300 --> 01:09:54,900
videos on everybody and 
everything. 

1265
01:09:55,300 --> 01:09:57,500
But back in the day, you have to
read the book, you read the 

1266
01:09:57,508 --> 01:09:58,600
book. 
It's not in the books. 

1267
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,400
Nobody's books, okay. 
That means I guess nobody's done

1268
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:05,200
it or it must Must have been on 
a very, very small scale these 

1269
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,200
days. 
Everything is so scalable, you 

1270
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,200
make this video, you make this 
podcast, you know, maybe 10,000 

1271
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,500
people, listen, Maybe 1 million,
maybe two people, but it's out 

1272
01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:15,400
there, you can find it, you can 
Google it. 

1273
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,600
You can add hashtags. 
So that's the thing. 

1274
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:25,000
But is that what you, what you 
were asking like, what what 

1275
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,500
that's a perfect, that's a great
answer. 

1276
01:10:28,700 --> 01:10:30,300
That's a great answer. 
So Nino. 

1277
01:10:30,300 --> 01:10:33,700
Are you have already even ran 
through some of the questions? 

1278
01:10:33,700 --> 01:10:37,900
I didn't even have to ask them 
but you your answers are great. 

1279
01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:43,100
So now we've come to the point 
of our keyword Fast Response 

1280
01:10:43,100 --> 01:11:07,500
game. 
And very short. 

1281
01:11:07,500 --> 01:11:12,400
So we would run through around 
66 bullet points. 

1282
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,400
Wow, are you ready? 
Yes, what's at stake? 

1283
01:11:20,300 --> 01:11:22,300
So you see either we have to win
something. 

1284
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,100
Lose something because I've the 
incentive is well you can just 

1285
01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:27,700
take you know take us less time 
as possible. 

1286
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:32,200
Well maybe how they could much 
time the last. 

1287
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,100
The last keyword First Response 
game was this morning I had to 

1288
01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:44,200
poke and the show and he was 
fast, he was fast but I don't, 

1289
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,500
in this case I would say there's
nothing at stake but it's always

1290
01:11:48,500 --> 01:11:51,400
interesting to find out that the
fast responses. 

1291
01:11:51,700 --> 01:11:55,300
Sure. 
Compared to the longer and 

1292
01:11:55,300 --> 01:11:58,900
thoughtful answers. 
So let's find out what is on 

1293
01:11:58,900 --> 01:12:00,100
your mind? 
Yeah. 

1294
01:12:00,700 --> 01:12:06,900
And the first the first one and 
somehow you already answered it 

1295
01:12:06,900 --> 01:12:11,100
but let's do it again as a 
summary Talent versus 

1296
01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:14,500
discipline. 
Hey, you know, inherently 

1297
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,300
connected if you want 
Apartments, great. 

1298
01:12:19,900 --> 01:12:23,100
Second one essential training 
skills. 

1299
01:12:24,700 --> 01:12:29,900
Or just kill essential training 
skill movement under percent. 

1300
01:12:30,100 --> 01:12:33,900
Look, I always say if you can't,
if the dog can't move let's say 

1301
01:12:33,900 --> 01:12:37,900
genetically you had yet the best
genetic dog possible but he 

1302
01:12:37,900 --> 01:12:41,500
loses one paw. 
How are you ever going to prove 

1303
01:12:41,500 --> 01:12:44,100
it now? 
And same goes for you. 

1304
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,700
So if you're disabled, for 
example, as a dog trainer and 

1305
01:12:47,700 --> 01:12:49,000
you're into performance dogs, 
okay? 

1306
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,000
I'm not talking service dogs. 
Of course, these people have 

1307
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:56,000
done own believable jobs, you 
know, to serve people with 

1308
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,000
handicaps and stuff, so, 
incredible eyes, truly 

1309
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,100
respected, more than anything. 
But if you're looking 

1310
01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:05,100
performance, if you look in, you
know, any competition style, 

1311
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:08,400
whatever and you can't move 
this, which is nothing you can 

1312
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,400
do, this is serious. 
Problems. 

1313
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,800
So yeah movement hundred percent
both for you. 

1314
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,900
And the doc movement is the 
enabler of all Talent, its 

1315
01:13:16,900 --> 01:13:20,200
enabler without it, you cannot 
expand and more skills. 

1316
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:25,600
So movement, great answer but 
you lost points on this one. 

1317
01:13:27,300 --> 01:13:33,200
I took too long. 
Okay next one development of 

1318
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:38,700
breeding dogs, development of 
breeding dogs, development of 

1319
01:13:38,700 --> 01:13:42,000
breeding dogs problem 
problematic. 

1320
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:48,900
Yes, problematic. 
Importance of sports in the 

1321
01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:54,200
working. 
Document e. unless unless unless

1322
01:13:56,100 --> 01:14:01,700
and I can, I tell you why, Sure,
because the sequences have 

1323
01:14:01,700 --> 01:14:06,400
always ruled everybody's entire 
routine, everybody's philosophy.

1324
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,200
Everything was always about the 
sequence and I don't tell you 

1325
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,000
really honest for, and I can 
tell you why. 

1326
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:16,100
Because one of my students has 
more followers than any of us, 

1327
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:20,500
if you're talking 400,000 Plus 
on YouTube, five million on Tick

1328
01:14:20,500 --> 01:14:23,700
Tock over 100,000 on Instagram. 
No dr. 

1329
01:14:23,700 --> 01:14:26,700
Weiner has this. 
And I generally can tell you 

1330
01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:29,000
that the majority of the people 
that are interested. 

1331
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:32,100
And working dog performances. 
They do not care. 

1332
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,500
If this is either PSA or this is
igp, or this, is he a Vida? 

1333
01:14:36,500 --> 01:14:39,100
Nobody cares, nobody cares. 
I want to see the performance 

1334
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,200
and the performance can be 
displayed and many forms in many

1335
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,700
ways and the days that we needed
to support as you know, our 

1336
01:14:46,700 --> 01:14:49,300
ultimate guide because we have 
no creativity. 

1337
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,200
We don't know what to train, 
please help us and give us a 

1338
01:14:52,208 --> 01:14:56,500
sequence to sport is dead. 
The N VB K here, the traditional

1339
01:14:56,500 --> 01:14:58,400
sport, which we all have so much
in Belgium. 

1340
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:03,800
It's almost Most dead and it'll 
continue to, you know, to go on 

1341
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,700
a decline steam but it can't be 
the same for all these great 

1342
01:15:06,700 --> 01:15:08,700
Sports. 
It's going downhill. 

1343
01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:11,800
So does that mean that working 
dogs are less popular? 

1344
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,500
Actually know they've never been
this popular. 

1345
01:15:15,100 --> 01:15:16,600
Why? 
Because of we have the exposure 

1346
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:20,300
now so but the relevance of the 
dog sport. 

1347
01:15:20,300 --> 01:15:23,900
Does that does not imply. 
I don't like sports at all. 

1348
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,600
I'm just telling you the 
influence becomes less and less 

1349
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:30,100
important. 
Very interesting. 

1350
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:37,500
We'll get back to this. 
After the last bullet point, you

1351
01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:38,700
have traveled. 
The world. 

1352
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,800
What was your favorite 
destination? 

1353
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:43,800
Believe it or not, it was 
Alaska. 

1354
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:48,000
I was like, yeah. 
I was like, what am I gonna do 

1355
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,500
in Alaska, too cold? 
Of course, it was cool. 

1356
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:56,100
I went into summer likely was 
still cold, but the nature is so

1357
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,600
violent. 
So rough like, hey, you know, 

1358
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,800
you were driving back there and 
I was thinking, if my car breaks

1359
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,500
down is nobody here, only wild 
animals. 

1360
01:16:05,500 --> 01:16:07,600
This is pitch-black, this is 
crazy. 

1361
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,900
Crazy. 
Rough environment you go up 30 

1362
01:16:09,900 --> 01:16:11,500
minutes by car? 
It's freezing. 

1363
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:16,900
That snow, it's The Valleys the 
oh it's just it's so 

1364
01:16:16,900 --> 01:16:19,000
overwhelming. 
If you've never been in this 

1365
01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:23,000
type of environment, for me, you
know, Europe Belgium is nothing 

1366
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:24,400
really violent here. 
Yes. 

1367
01:16:24,700 --> 01:16:31,300
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's Alaska, 
that would be also one of my 

1368
01:16:31,300 --> 01:16:35,900
favorite destinations are unique
on the to-do list. 

1369
01:16:36,700 --> 01:16:41,800
Great. 
So this has been it and For the 

1370
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:47,700
next guest, I will definitely 
think ahead to to find what's at

1371
01:16:47,700 --> 01:16:50,900
stake? 
You're awesome. 

1372
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:06,200
Let's get back. 
So I don't mix things up talking

1373
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:12,500
about the the development of 
breeding and from what I 

1374
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:17,800
understood, of course, the The 
Sports World effects. 

1375
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,400
The breeding a lot. 
Yeah. 

1376
01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:25,800
So how do you see this? 
Also with the ndpk or the knp be

1377
01:17:26,300 --> 01:17:32,400
and are the criteria of breeding
dogs and decreasing do? 

1378
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,400
We have did we have higher 
quality dogs, 20 years ago? 

1379
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,500
30 years ago. 
My opinion is yes. 

1380
01:17:40,500 --> 01:17:42,800
But the problem is you can't 
measure all this because today 

1381
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:47,500
you can bump it to the greatest 
dog that you've ever seen and 

1382
01:17:47,500 --> 01:17:49,300
then you could say well what's 
the problem here? 

1383
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,500
Because my see a great dog in 
front of me so they must have 

1384
01:17:52,500 --> 01:17:55,200
had great dogs before because 
how else is this great dog here?

1385
01:17:55,200 --> 01:18:00,000
Today, it's all the, you know, 
the reaction chain of having a 

1386
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,400
great dog to start with and you 
just continue to breed with 

1387
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:06,100
other great dogs, whatever. 
But the truth is, what you just 

1388
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:08,500
said, is the sport is on its 
decline. 

1389
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,900
The pool of genes were they used
to, you know, be very selective 

1390
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:17,500
is not so much anymore. 
So, back in the day, also, bad 

1391
01:18:17,500 --> 01:18:21,400
training was disguised by a very
good dog. 

1392
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,500
So, with a new, if this dog can 
go through this, you know, the 

1393
01:18:24,500 --> 01:18:27,600
jumps and the pressure and the 
group work, and all that kind of

1394
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,400
stuff will tell you a lot about 
the dog, these days. 

1395
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,900
People, of course, luckily also 
got a little bit better so you 

1396
01:18:32,900 --> 01:18:36,900
can disguise some of the Rajan 
etics that maybe lakhs or to 

1397
01:18:36,900 --> 01:18:40,600
enhance things by using Better 
skills and stuff like that. 

1398
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:46,400
So even if you use the sport as 
a genetic pool, it's still going

1399
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,100
to be hard then to find out. 
Then, you know, they're offering

1400
01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:52,800
this Champion to breed, but it's
just truly the dog that you want

1401
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,500
to breathe. 
It's might be the most 

1402
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,200
productive cell because 
everybody knows the name and 

1403
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,600
everybody wants a piece of this 
dog, because they've seen 

1404
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,000
Brilliance, and it's routine. 
That doesn't necessarily mean, 

1405
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,200
this is the best dog to breed. 
Okay, so this is all your 

1406
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,900
problem. 
But the thing is like now, These

1407
01:19:08,900 --> 01:19:15,700
days because the pool has as you
know become so much smaller and 

1408
01:19:15,700 --> 01:19:19,000
and the internet demand has 
become so much bigger. 

1409
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,500
You know what happens right 
either the price goes up but how

1410
01:19:22,500 --> 01:19:26,500
do you jack up the price from a 
for a working dog to you know 

1411
01:19:26,500 --> 01:19:29,500
you can't start charging people 
not twenty Thirty fifty thousand

1412
01:19:29,500 --> 01:19:32,400
dollars for puppies and say look
very selective here. 

1413
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:36,800
So what's happening is even the 
the good dogs that are still 

1414
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,400
here are just going to Normal 
homes. 

1415
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,100
Normal people. 
And you know, not I would say 

1416
01:19:42,100 --> 01:19:44,800
super skilled people that 
extract all the potential you 

1417
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,200
need to see. 
So what's happening is you lose 

1418
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:52,900
a lot of, you know, prospects 
and people that do have the 

1419
01:19:52,900 --> 01:19:55,300
analytics to to make assessments
on? 

1420
01:19:55,300 --> 01:19:59,100
What is a good Prospect at the 
year year to year old Mark 

1421
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,600
before it even competed, you've 
seen in a training this is very 

1422
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:06,600
inside information and then 
usually these dogs also and I 

1423
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:10,100
know it happened they get sold. 
Or you know then we talked about

1424
01:20:10,100 --> 01:20:14,500
the 20 30 K prices and not these
dogs are gone, maybe there are 

1425
01:20:14,500 --> 01:20:15,800
getting now. 
Great results. 

1426
01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:19,700
In China may be in Israel, may 
be in wherever but not in 

1427
01:20:19,700 --> 01:20:22,500
Europe. 
Maybe not, you know, in more 

1428
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,200
majority of people do not have 
access to them anymore. 

1429
01:20:26,700 --> 01:20:31,500
Yeah. 
So Did you have your own 

1430
01:20:31,500 --> 01:20:35,000
breeding programs? 
I don't, I don't have breeding 

1431
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,800
programs. 
I have a really nice dark like 

1432
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:42,900
Rocky and he has done his 
service because he one of his 

1433
01:20:42,900 --> 01:20:46,300
sons is a special forces. 
SWAT dog? 

1434
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,000
Very high level the youngest 
talk to to get certified. 

1435
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:54,400
You know, it's crazy, good dog. 
So and that case his mission is 

1436
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:59,100
already accomplished. 
He gave jeans now, were we serve

1437
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,400
community on a high level? 
You know? 

1438
01:21:01,700 --> 01:21:05,400
Because to me that's still one 
of the most Horton jobs just 

1439
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,700
like service dog. 
You know for this community 

1440
01:21:07,700 --> 01:21:12,300
work, the dog going in the line 
of fire to get, you know, high 

1441
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,000
risk. 
People, take out criminals. 

1442
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,700
It's very important. 
So yeah, he served its purpose. 

1443
01:21:18,700 --> 01:21:22,000
But look, I'm not you see never 
on my website. 

1444
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,500
Here, I have this dog to breed. 
I'm not, I'm not asking anyone 

1445
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,400
because I'm very selective. 
If you come here today with your

1446
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,400
female, not just going to say 
yes. 

1447
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,100
I also want to see because Cuz I
know it's not just going to be 

1448
01:21:35,100 --> 01:21:37,000
one dog, and I were dog has 
flaws. 

1449
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,600
And every dog has strengths and 
there's so much stuff to, to 

1450
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,600
take into consideration. 
So breathing has become, but the

1451
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,300
money for some people. 
It's just so attractive. 

1452
01:21:48,300 --> 01:21:50,600
I think they'll just breathe it 
with anything. 

1453
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,700
You'll sell it, because the 
demand on the Internet is so 

1454
01:21:53,700 --> 01:21:56,700
high before and Belgium where 
you going to sell this dog with 

1455
01:21:56,700 --> 01:21:58,600
no internet. 
Where do you think you're going 

1456
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,300
to, do you put it in the 
newspaper? 

1457
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:01,700
You don't even have a picture, 
right? 

1458
01:22:01,700 --> 01:22:04,700
Pictures are not exist. 
So you only have like three 

1459
01:22:04,700 --> 01:22:09,500
lines Malinois for sale. 
Okay who's going to come? 

1460
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,300
Well people looking for this dog
specifically for you see you and

1461
01:22:13,300 --> 01:22:15,700
now it's a different world. 
You put one picture looks cute 

1462
01:22:15,700 --> 01:22:18,400
with one ear up when you're down
you have sold your dog. 

1463
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,000
You see. 
This is what I think. 

1464
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,600
So I'm such an asshole to before
you would say. 

1465
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,200
Hey I don't know if I'm going to
breed because I maybe I keep one

1466
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:27,400
puppy. 
What am I gonna do with the 

1467
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,700
other eight? 
You see, you want to take care 

1468
01:22:29,700 --> 01:22:31,200
of a dog's? 
No, of course, not. 

1469
01:22:31,500 --> 01:22:35,200
So that problem is No longer a 
problem. 

1470
01:22:35,500 --> 01:22:38,100
You can get rid of anything. 
Sometimes, I think, how is he 

1471
01:22:38,100 --> 01:22:40,800
ever going to sell these dogs? 
I looked at this letter, it was 

1472
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,000
like the worst ever. 
And then one week later every 

1473
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,800
dog is sold like okay, we have 
we have some people with 

1474
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:52,200
problems today is no other way. 
So this is reality, right? 

1475
01:22:52,300 --> 01:22:56,300
That's why people work money on 
this professional, dog, 

1476
01:22:56,300 --> 01:22:59,000
training, stuff for train. 
Whatever. 

1477
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,000
You know to behavioral 
modification. 

1478
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,300
It's necessary. 
So it's good. 

1479
01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:06,400
These people exist because 
there's many problems, but of 

1480
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:10,000
course, ideally, we don't want 
these problems, right? 

1481
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,600
We want to start the creation. 
We want to start with a good 

1482
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,000
vibe. 
You want to start with good 

1483
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,600
genetics? 
That's the thing. 

1484
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,900
It's not the case. 
Not for any breed, all breeds 

1485
01:23:19,900 --> 01:23:22,300
have problems. 
All of them, if it's not held 

1486
01:23:22,300 --> 01:23:25,800
problems, its behavior problems 
issues, the brain goes crazy, 

1487
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:29,600
even the working dogs, they also
have problems, so, yeah. 

1488
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:33,300
And they, we do you think, can 
we say that we over? 

1489
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:40,600
I bred them or was it too little
and scientific aspects on in 

1490
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:44,300
terms of the selection of 
genetics etcetera that we 

1491
01:23:44,300 --> 01:23:47,900
created, because we have tests, 
we have health tests for 

1492
01:23:47,900 --> 01:23:51,800
example, dogs are getting 
x-rayed, the hips, the elbows, 

1493
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:56,300
the shoulders, the back, Etc, 
but we can't get rid of all the 

1494
01:23:56,300 --> 01:23:59,600
sicknesses. 
So, yeah, but looks your, what's

1495
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,500
your opinion? 
My opinion is I actually had a 

1496
01:24:02,500 --> 01:24:04,700
great conversation. 
About it with somebody. 

1497
01:24:04,700 --> 01:24:07,100
He said, oh, you have x-ray, 
x-ray, look, I have x-ray 

1498
01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:09,600
because the police asked me 
before that, I don't know. 

1499
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,700
Know anybody had X-rays ever on 
his dog, in the Circuit of the 

1500
01:24:13,700 --> 01:24:16,900
entry. 
BK is like the x-rays. 

1501
01:24:16,900 --> 01:24:19,300
Well, I don't know. 
But look at this dog jump 

1502
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,900
because atletic performance. 
Look at what he is capable of 

1503
01:24:22,900 --> 01:24:25,200
doing at the age of six. 
Seven eight, nine years old 

1504
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,800
still competing. 
Well, then, you know, the dog is

1505
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,600
going to be fit. 
So, you know, and because those 

1506
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,300
dogs only the best dogs were 
used to breed. 

1507
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,800
Be bold, they give good genes. 
It's like survival of the 

1508
01:24:35,808 --> 01:24:37,600
fittest so they have you already
started, right? 

1509
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:41,000
That's of the ones that had the 
best genes has the most chance 

1510
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,500
to survive at. 
So and actually if you look at 

1511
01:24:43,500 --> 01:24:47,600
it, the best dogs had the most 
chance to survive or with the 

1512
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,700
worst handlers, right? 
Yeah. 

1513
01:24:50,700 --> 01:24:53,400
And those dogs were bred and 
there were tough as nails, and 

1514
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,200
there were very strong frame 
dogs. 

1515
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,800
So there were no problems to be 
honest. 

1516
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,100
Like the man was a poor man's 
dog. 

1517
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:05,300
Pee little, you get it for free.
As dog would become 15 years old

1518
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,900
and I go to the vet once not get
any vaccines of the Belgian, 

1519
01:25:08,900 --> 01:25:10,200
man. 
This is talking Belgium. 

1520
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,700
Nobody went to the vet like this
is all new. 

1521
01:25:14,300 --> 01:25:19,100
You know, you had this dog, when
my grandparents, whatever they 

1522
01:25:19,100 --> 01:25:23,100
had this dog, this for free, 
never go to the vet, never never

1523
01:25:23,100 --> 01:25:25,200
nothing. 
So I think there is a problem 

1524
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,500
these days, these days, every 
dog has allergies, these dark 

1525
01:25:28,500 --> 01:25:32,100
everyday has intestine problems.
Is a job, digestion, problems. 

1526
01:25:32,500 --> 01:25:35,100
There is a nerve Problems. 
There's there's more problems 

1527
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:38,400
than I can count. 
So yeah, I think there's 

1528
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,000
something happened but a, I 
don't know what? 

1529
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,900
I'm not qualified to be honest 
to tell you what. 

1530
01:25:42,900 --> 01:25:47,900
Exactly, but this is my sense of
how things have shifted before. 

1531
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,900
Nobody asked you x-rays, what 
x-rays? 

1532
01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:51,800
You know how expensive x-rays or
four people? 

1533
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:53,400
You're going to put X rays for 
dogs now. 

1534
01:25:53,900 --> 01:25:57,300
So you see where I'm going and 
now you need to find the x-rays 

1535
01:25:57,300 --> 01:26:00,700
because these dogs have never 
made a jump in their life and 

1536
01:26:00,700 --> 01:26:03,300
then of course, maybe their 
frame is a total wreck. 

1537
01:26:03,900 --> 01:26:07,100
And then you need to know, oh 
yes, we can use this dog because

1538
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:09,300
it's frame is like, but if you 
would have trained it, you 

1539
01:26:09,300 --> 01:26:11,700
probably would have known. 
So, yeah, yeah. 

1540
01:26:11,700 --> 01:26:13,200
You would have no, no, dogs. 
Two years. 

1541
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:14,600
He cannot you cannot do 
anything. 

1542
01:26:15,500 --> 01:26:19,400
So yeah, well, I wouldn't say 
that is the norm, but there's 

1543
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,100
exceptions. 
Very muscular dogs. 

1544
01:26:21,100 --> 01:26:24,600
They will, they will disguise 
there is an underlying frame 

1545
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:29,300
problem like Orthopedic problem.
So, of course, then you're 

1546
01:26:29,700 --> 01:26:32,000
unlucky, and you will be happy, 
you have your x-rays. 

1547
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:33,200
So the people are all the 
x-rays. 

1548
01:26:33,300 --> 01:26:36,000
It sure will be, we will be 
saying, what does he know? 

1549
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:37,600
Of course, because we are acts 
raised. 

1550
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,300
Now we exclude dogs from 
reading. 

1551
01:26:39,300 --> 01:26:40,900
It says all great. 
Look, I'm fine. 

1552
01:26:40,900 --> 01:26:43,800
But let's not forget why you do 
them in the first place. 

1553
01:26:44,100 --> 01:26:49,900
If you're talking igp jumps with
you, it would be the same as me 

1554
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,100
running and 16 seconds hundred 
meter and then and then 

1555
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,200
comparing to Olympian level. 
Look your dog, jumps. 

1556
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:03,200
One hurdle, 100 cm on grass a 
how is this now? 

1557
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:08,400
Eh-eh-eh-eh-eh an hour. 
I mean criteria to Define if 

1558
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,800
your dog is athletic, I'm sorry.
It's not an A-frame is not the 

1559
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,700
Pinnacle of athleticism for 
dogs, believe it or not, so some

1560
01:27:16,700 --> 01:27:19,100
people will hate it. 
But this is the reality. 

1561
01:27:19,900 --> 01:27:22,700
Same goes for the camp. 
EV somebody send me videos that 

1562
01:27:22,700 --> 01:27:24,500
can be. 
This dog jumps over a puddle. 

1563
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:29,200
It's like an arm length. 
Big look, any dog can jump this,

1564
01:27:29,500 --> 01:27:33,600
this is not, this is not like 
high discipline, so let's see. 

1565
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:35,700
Have to put things in 
perspective and you have to be 

1566
01:27:35,700 --> 01:27:38,300
very critical critical on what 
you assess. 

1567
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,300
You can't just say yes, of 
course, it's a lead because look

1568
01:27:41,300 --> 01:27:43,700
at these dogs, going to world 
champions and look at how fast 

1569
01:27:43,700 --> 01:27:46,400
they can jump. 
Look, there's these dogs could 

1570
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:50,400
be crippled and jump 1 meter. 
No clue. 

1571
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:54,600
Yeah, that's true. 
And still, it's still, it's the 

1572
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:56,200
permission for breeding at 
least. 

1573
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,100
In many countries. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1574
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,300
So you, we already given the 
answers ourselves, the policy 

1575
01:28:02,500 --> 01:28:06,400
that you know, the federation's,
the the money in the pedigrees, 

1576
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:07,400
you know, all that kind of 
stuff. 

1577
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,600
The N VB K is not recognized by 
the FCI. 

1578
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:11,700
Why do you think that is? 
It's Monopoly. 

1579
01:28:12,100 --> 01:28:15,000
The Monopoly said FC. 
I will only recognize one 

1580
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:19,100
Federation for Country, so and 
ubk, I'm sorry. 

1581
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,800
We already have sent to better, 
so you cannot come in so your 

1582
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:26,000
dogs are not official except 
dogs. 

1583
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,800
It's a money game, right? 
Yeah, sure. 

1584
01:28:28,900 --> 01:28:31,400
So, but, of course, not, 
everybody knows in the whole FCI

1585
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,700
Malinois pedigrees. 
There's many, many n VB, K Dogs.

1586
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,700
Everybody knows oh, but now they
have DNA testing. 

1587
01:28:38,700 --> 01:28:42,100
Yeah, yeah, of course, but the 
pedigree is already a false FCI 

1588
01:28:42,100 --> 01:28:45,000
pedigree to start with, so it 
doesn't matter if you have DNA 

1589
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:49,200
testing. 
Look, it's all a shitshow to be 

1590
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,300
Sometimes people send me 
pedigrees and have the luck to 

1591
01:28:52,308 --> 01:28:55,200
live in Belgium, and I can ask 
people that have lived here done

1592
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:58,000
this much longer than I have. 
And I asked them and they know 

1593
01:28:58,500 --> 01:29:01,600
this is all fake, this is all 
this and you're thinking if 

1594
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:05,400
only, you know, this one guy two
guys in the whole country where 

1595
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,400
this is all coming from, how is 
somebody in the United States 

1596
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:12,600
going to know or, and for our 
and Canada or in Australia or 

1597
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,200
whatever? 
They don't know. 

1598
01:29:15,100 --> 01:29:18,300
So, it's that's where it already
starts. 

1599
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:24,000
It's so, But the question is, 
would they care if the dog? 

1600
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:29,500
If the dog is healthy and, and 
Energetic and driving. 

1601
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:32,700
Does it really matter about the 
pedigree? 

1602
01:29:32,700 --> 01:29:37,900
But I guess the MVP case similar
to the can PV know, like not 

1603
01:29:37,900 --> 01:29:39,100
roll. 
No, no. 

1604
01:29:39,100 --> 01:29:45,400
But I mean, in terms of The 
quote I have in my head they say

1605
01:29:45,700 --> 01:29:50,300
papers don't bite so they don't 
look for the fanciest pedigree 

1606
01:29:50,300 --> 01:29:52,500
day, at least. 
That's what I've learned. 

1607
01:29:52,500 --> 01:29:57,000
I'm far from being a nerd on 
pedigrees Etc. 

1608
01:29:57,100 --> 01:29:59,500
Well, but it makes sense. 
It makes sense. 

1609
01:29:59,500 --> 01:30:04,100
If you, if you're not looking 
for the most beautiful one but 

1610
01:30:04,100 --> 01:30:08,900
for the one who has the skill 
set, what were all the respect 

1611
01:30:08,900 --> 01:30:11,200
for the kpv? 
I don't think they're in a good 

1612
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,300
position. 
Talk about how to breed dogs, 

1613
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:16,700
okay? 
And and the reason why is 

1614
01:30:16,700 --> 01:30:22,400
because if you create your own 
database and it's a bunch of art

1615
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:27,400
cross and you know, what's the 
assessment on all these dogs? 

1616
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:28,700
Was it ph1? 
Whatever. 

1617
01:30:28,700 --> 01:30:31,600
Okay, I get it. 
But if I tell you right now and 

1618
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:37,300
let's just be very, very open 
and honest if a dog, which is a 

1619
01:30:37,300 --> 01:30:40,700
not Elite Malinois, right? 
If you're talking about a 

1620
01:30:40,700 --> 01:30:44,700
Bouvier or you talking about Any
other you know not so standard 

1621
01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:49,500
breed can win your Championship 
that says a lot about the 

1622
01:30:49,500 --> 01:30:54,000
standards of ph1. 
Although I'm the last guy to say

1623
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,100
this is, he's nothing is easy. 
Nothing is easy. 

1624
01:30:56,400 --> 01:31:00,000
But let's not also over 
exaggerate the ph1. 

1625
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:04,900
I'm actually type that there's 
not I don't know any ph1 or I 

1626
01:31:04,907 --> 01:31:08,800
don't know any kntv paper dog 
that has ever accomplished 

1627
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:10,700
something significantly and the 
MVP K. 

1628
01:31:10,700 --> 01:31:13,000
And you can see of course not 
because there Holland that 

1629
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:16,600
you're in Belgium, it's but 
there's always a, you know, a 

1630
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,000
spin-off of dogs. 
If they're really, really that 

1631
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:22,500
great bold and Belgium, people 
will go shopping and find Camp 

1632
01:31:22,500 --> 01:31:24,500
if you dogs to perform in their 
program. 

1633
01:31:24,500 --> 01:31:28,000
It's just it's just how it is 
and it's it never it never 

1634
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,200
happened. 
So so I mean to me these are 

1635
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:33,600
indications that okay, this is 
not watertight. 

1636
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:37,300
First of all, if you're going to
start you know messing around 

1637
01:31:37,300 --> 01:31:39,800
with all these different breeds 
and sizes these days, they have 

1638
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,400
Mountain was weighing I don't 
know 45. 

1639
01:31:42,500 --> 01:31:44,500
Those 50 kilos and everybody's 
fine with this. 

1640
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:48,800
I'm the last guy to say, okay, 
he can breed, but I mean, let's 

1641
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:52,200
also not make this into well, a 
freak Show. 

1642
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:55,000
Why is it my love? 
Why not 50 kilos and everybody's

1643
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,700
proud of it? 
Look, if I buy a mountain while 

1644
01:31:57,700 --> 01:32:02,300
by standard, I'm looking for 30 
kilo dog, 32 kilos, it can be 

1645
01:32:02,300 --> 01:32:05,800
deployed and you know Elite 
forces whatever you're not 

1646
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:07,700
looking for a 50 cable, dog, in 
my opinion. 

1647
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:11,300
So, but if this is now the norm,
everybody can do whatever they 

1648
01:32:11,300 --> 01:32:14,800
want based on. 
Based on their assessment. 

1649
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:17,300
I don't know if that's a 
long-term. 

1650
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,700
Great plan for breeding. 
So I may be the quote, sounds 

1651
01:32:20,700 --> 01:32:23,500
great papers on body. 
Of course, I agree with this. 

1652
01:32:23,500 --> 01:32:27,400
You have to look at the dog 
itself but to to look at this as

1653
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:32,200
now while the Dutch are be like 
the above anybody else, or 

1654
01:32:32,500 --> 01:32:34,700
they're more advanced and 
reading just because they match 

1655
01:32:34,700 --> 01:32:37,200
everything and they try to see 
what works and they have a lot 

1656
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,500
of Drive. 
I've seen very, very high drive.

1657
01:32:39,500 --> 01:32:42,300
Dogs that did not have other 
abilities. 

1658
01:32:42,500 --> 01:32:46,200
That I think are very important 
also, but you see then it 

1659
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,200
becomes a also, a pissing 
contest. 

1660
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,600
Nobody wants a pissing contest. 
You know what that means? 

1661
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:53,700
Is that like mine's the baddest?
No mind is stronger. 

1662
01:32:53,900 --> 01:32:55,800
No, but yours cannot bite that 
good. 

1663
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:59,000
Well but mind at least has can 
retrieve metal. 

1664
01:32:59,300 --> 01:33:01,900
Yes. 
And if I took my dog off my dog 

1665
01:33:01,900 --> 01:33:05,100
wants to come again and my dog, 
when they see these are kids 

1666
01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:07,900
stories. 
I don't like, you know, to 

1667
01:33:07,900 --> 01:33:10,400
assess talents. 
So and then again we go to the 

1668
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,300
definition that what is Talent? 
Real talent? 

1669
01:33:12,700 --> 01:33:16,000
Combination of skills that you 
can apply new simultaneously at 

1670
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:17,800
all times. 
So you could do things better 

1671
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,000
faster and more efficient than 
somebody else with less effort. 

1672
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,600
Okay, same goes for the dog. 
So, how many skills can we teach

1673
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,100
a dog then? 
Let's define what skills you 

1674
01:33:26,100 --> 01:33:28,700
want to teach them first? 
Are you talking about jumping 

1675
01:33:28,700 --> 01:33:30,300
skills? 
You don't provide biting skills.

1676
01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:32,800
You're talking about movement, 
obedience skills, you're talking

1677
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,700
about Focus skills, you taught 
me. 

1678
01:33:34,700 --> 01:33:39,700
See, so many skills now, now, 
let's see which one can make the

1679
01:33:39,700 --> 01:33:43,000
combination in stressful 
conditions, so, So now we can 

1680
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,700
Define. 
Who is the most talented dog? 

1681
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:47,700
Not the one dimensional dog that
we think oh look how tough he 

1682
01:33:47,700 --> 01:33:49,800
is. 
He just he just cracked 

1683
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:54,600
somebody's arm you know because 
it came in so wild and so good. 

1684
01:33:54,900 --> 01:33:58,700
Yes, this is one part of the 
overall skills that you're 

1685
01:33:58,700 --> 01:34:03,400
looking for, right? 
So let's not also be blind 

1686
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,600
through this. 
Expect a killer exercise and 

1687
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:11,200
assume this is. 
Now the next best breeding 

1688
01:34:11,300 --> 01:34:15,100
Prospect, or You're going very 
fast. 

1689
01:34:15,700 --> 01:34:18,500
I realize it does. 
It just doesn't work like that. 

1690
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:24,400
You can breed with specimen A 
and B, great dogs, and have a 

1691
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,500
complete not fit, dog for your 
program. 

1692
01:34:27,700 --> 01:34:34,200
So, and again, this would be a 
great great topic for for a 

1693
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:38,400
whole episode in talking about 
the talent, maybe even 

1694
01:34:38,700 --> 01:34:42,400
selecting. 
Because I totally get the point 

1695
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:47,700
of your, if your definition, I 
just think it's, it's, it's hard

1696
01:34:47,700 --> 01:34:53,300
to To had to rate. 
So, how to find out if someone 

1697
01:34:53,300 --> 01:34:57,700
is or someone or a dog is 
talented and you have to train 

1698
01:34:57,700 --> 01:35:02,300
to find out, right the rose. 
It's an is it estimates used for

1699
01:35:02,300 --> 01:35:06,300
in the word is misused because 
majority sees Talent as your 

1700
01:35:06,300 --> 01:35:08,800
natural gift to perform or do 
whatever. 

1701
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:12,600
You're you're talented, you're 
good at this know, being good at

1702
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,500
something does not mean you're 
talented. 

1703
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:18,800
Give you example, we both go to 
the police right as the police 

1704
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:23,600
And we spent 20 years at the 
police 20 years, both 20 years 

1705
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,300
and you are very confident in 
what you do. 

1706
01:35:26,300 --> 01:35:29,700
You can go to any assignment and
you can, you know, make 

1707
01:35:29,700 --> 01:35:31,700
everything work. 
You make the filings of your 

1708
01:35:31,700 --> 01:35:34,700
very extremely competent police 
officer, okay? 

1709
01:35:35,100 --> 01:35:38,600
Then the next guy, how you going
to tell that this is a talented 

1710
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,600
police officer? 
Well, we both do the same job 

1711
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,700
after 20 years. 
We both go into this assignment.

1712
01:35:43,700 --> 01:35:45,900
We both finish the file and we 
both do great things. 

1713
01:35:45,900 --> 01:35:48,400
Okay, so, so what are you going 
to measure this? 

1714
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:51,100
Now? 
How Imagine, who is talented, so

1715
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,000
that's why it's important to 
understand. 

1716
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:57,100
The distinction between 
component, means that, over time

1717
01:35:57,200 --> 01:36:01,200
by putting in a lot of 
repetitions experience work, you

1718
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,000
become competent, right? 
So from being not competent. 

1719
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,100
So our first day you come and 
you're not competent to be a 

1720
01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:08,400
police officer, you're not just 
not it's impossible, you have to

1721
01:36:08,407 --> 01:36:11,100
learn all the new stuff and then
you have to add, get experience,

1722
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:14,000
whatever then you're competent. 
But then how do we make 

1723
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,000
assessment or differentiation 
between? 

1724
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:17,800
This is a talented police 
officer world. 

1725
01:36:17,900 --> 01:36:19,900
There's a speed of learning Oh, 
yes. 

1726
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,900
Then there's the amount of 
effort this person had to do to 

1727
01:36:22,900 --> 01:36:24,600
accomplish the same results in 
you did. 

1728
01:36:24,900 --> 01:36:27,900
So and then there's all these 
skills being combined at the 

1729
01:36:27,900 --> 01:36:31,200
same time and stressful 
conditions that he can access at

1730
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:34,400
all times and you struggle with 
but you both are competent for 

1731
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,500
sure. 
But the one guy is going to be 

1732
01:36:36,500 --> 01:36:38,700
talented among guys. 
Not and this is the same thing. 

1733
01:36:38,700 --> 01:36:41,300
You have to find out with the 
Dog Handlers is who's going to 

1734
01:36:41,300 --> 01:36:44,800
be who, what is towns, right? 
So, if you win the trophy and I 

1735
01:36:44,808 --> 01:36:47,800
had actually within the ICP at a
little discussion with somebody 

1736
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:51,900
who was also a speaker, That, 
you know, at the end of the day,

1737
01:36:52,300 --> 01:36:54,500
if you want to Define yourself 
as great or whatever, the 

1738
01:36:54,500 --> 01:36:57,900
conversation was, then what 
would it take for you to become 

1739
01:36:57,900 --> 01:37:01,100
great or amazing or whatever? 
And about that? 

1740
01:37:01,100 --> 01:37:04,500
That's a legitimate question. 
You have to think about this and

1741
01:37:04,500 --> 01:37:08,700
say, okay this is my, this is 
what I want to do to Define 

1742
01:37:08,700 --> 01:37:11,200
myself as great, amazing. 
Well then if you're great or 

1743
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:12,800
amazing, does that mean you're 
talented? 

1744
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:16,900
Because let's say, you win two 
titles one title and does that 

1745
01:37:16,900 --> 01:37:19,400
mean, you're now the most 
talented, This is that mean, 

1746
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:21,800
your dog is just Nest, or just 
you see, you see? 

1747
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:25,400
So, what, maybe you took 20 
years to become the champion 25 

1748
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:28,200
years? 
So you are very competent. 

1749
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,500
Does not mean, but what is it? 
You're looking for you for a 

1750
01:37:31,500 --> 01:37:34,000
most talented, dog, you looking 
for the most talented Handler, 

1751
01:37:34,100 --> 01:37:36,900
or you looking for the most 
competent, one, and there's a 

1752
01:37:36,900 --> 01:37:39,400
huge difference. 
And also, if you're going to 

1753
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:42,100
select coaches, you going to 
select Idols. 

1754
01:37:42,100 --> 01:37:43,700
Are you going to select the role
models? 

1755
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:47,000
Are you looking for somebody who
is extremely competent, or 

1756
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:51,500
somebody who is very talented? 
The route on how they became 

1757
01:37:51,500 --> 01:37:54,100
what they are, is going to be 
very different. 

1758
01:37:55,700 --> 01:38:00,600
So that's why assessing 
profiling and analyzing what 

1759
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:04,000
this town consists of is the 
Breakthrough. 

1760
01:38:04,300 --> 01:38:06,300
This is the Holy Grail in dog 
training. 

1761
01:38:06,300 --> 01:38:09,200
Now in my opinion because 
everything's been said and done 

1762
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:12,200
about dogs, what if you? 
If you bringing the best igp 

1763
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,900
trainer and today and we bring 
them live from you have this 

1764
01:38:14,900 --> 01:38:17,600
discussion so you know why you 
do this with your hand and say 

1765
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,400
why you do this with your ball? 
Why do you move your foot like 

1766
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:22,000
this in IPO? 
And he says, why do you move 

1767
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,300
your two feet in and I'll 
discuss go back and forth and at

1768
01:38:24,300 --> 01:38:25,900
the end of the day people will 
judge. 

1769
01:38:25,900 --> 01:38:28,100
I like his dog more than this 
dog or whatever. 

1770
01:38:28,100 --> 01:38:32,300
And and it basically becomes 
just a back-and-forth of how how

1771
01:38:32,300 --> 01:38:34,600
did you do this and it's 
irrelevant? 

1772
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:39,800
If the question is, how do you 
give you the skill to other 

1773
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:41,600
people? 
So, because we're not going to 

1774
01:38:41,608 --> 01:38:45,000
last here, forever. 
How do we pass this on? 

1775
01:38:45,300 --> 01:38:50,100
So you can do the same with less
effort even Or you can, you 

1776
01:38:50,100 --> 01:38:54,300
know, get the same results by 
understanding what you need to 

1777
01:38:54,300 --> 01:38:56,400
prioritize, what you need to 
develop and what you need to be 

1778
01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:00,700
looking at from a perspective at
the had the handle itself. 

1779
01:39:01,100 --> 01:39:04,000
So you can become more efficient
in training your dog. 

1780
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:07,200
And then, same thing for the dog
and this is going to be the 

1781
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:09,600
difference and not the how to 
you use a ball. 

1782
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,500
I use a marker, you use a voice 
marker, I use the clicker, you 

1783
01:39:12,500 --> 01:39:15,700
use a foam ball. 
I use a talk, right? 

1784
01:39:15,700 --> 01:39:20,500
You bite on Jude, I buy on 
synthetic all These, this is all

1785
01:39:20,500 --> 01:39:22,500
these discussions and Doctrine 
or about this. 

1786
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,700
My sport is better and actually 
we just had my jumpers higher. 

1787
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:30,100
My jump is his neck. 
You're my, my courage takes more

1788
01:39:30,100 --> 01:39:32,400
for this for. 
Yes, yeah, I understand all this

1789
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:36,700
stuff, right, but I get the 
point, I get the point. 

1790
01:39:36,700 --> 01:39:41,400
It's a good, it's great to talk 
to someone who really made some 

1791
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:44,100
thoughts about it, and 
obviously, he bring along some, 

1792
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:48,200
some in Germany, would say, hunt
Fest. 

1793
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:52,600
Which means a strong arguments, 
and it makes sense. 

1794
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:59,200
And, to be honest, I, I've had 
my sometimes, it's difficult on 

1795
01:39:59,500 --> 01:40:04,400
how you define the terms like 
Talent or or greater discipline.

1796
01:40:06,900 --> 01:40:09,200
But yeah, you just brought it on
here yet. 

1797
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,500
The terminology is very, very, 
very important. 

1798
01:40:11,500 --> 01:40:14,900
If you bring on anyone. 
Like we join this conversation 

1799
01:40:14,900 --> 01:40:17,800
with anyone and we would have a 
complete different active on 

1800
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:19,600
with Town means that whatever 
she means on. 

1801
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:22,300
What skill means, how about 
combination of skills means a 

1802
01:40:22,308 --> 01:40:24,400
comment. 
Like all this kind of stuff, not

1803
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,200
competent more or less 
competent. 

1804
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,200
Very talented. 
Last time that you see. 

1805
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:32,600
Now we're throwing words, big 
impact, but meaningless unless 

1806
01:40:32,700 --> 01:40:35,200
we first Benchmark, what it 
truly means. 

1807
01:40:35,700 --> 01:40:38,800
What if I Reverse this. 
Now I'll be your interviewer, I 

1808
01:40:38,808 --> 01:40:42,600
would say, can you define the 
most sound Doctrine, or how that

1809
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:45,000
would look? 
What is your perception of this?

1810
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,800
Do you see now a sport? 
Do you see a guy doing the 10 

1811
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:50,300
things? 
Do you see a circus Handler? 

1812
01:40:50,300 --> 01:40:54,300
For example because he can 
manage 10 crazy little dogs and 

1813
01:40:54,300 --> 01:40:57,000
10 big dogs and then he can make
them all do these things. 

1814
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,400
At the same time you see what is
your definition of the most 

1815
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:02,600
talented our camp? 
Do you want to become a talented

1816
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:05,200
dog handler, or you want to 
become competent in a certain 

1817
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:06,300
sport? 
I win the trophy. 

1818
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:08,500
Are we come talented in this 
Sport? 

1819
01:41:08,500 --> 01:41:10,900
And when the trophy faster than 
the other guy, you see? 

1820
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:13,700
So then what is it? 
Now we're now we're getting into

1821
01:41:13,700 --> 01:41:15,900
the depth of the conversation 
first. 

1822
01:41:15,900 --> 01:41:18,300
Let's Benchmark. 
What we talk about is the same 

1823
01:41:18,500 --> 01:41:20,400
and then we can have a genuine 
discussion. 

1824
01:41:20,900 --> 01:41:23,200
Okay, I agree with this or I 
don't agree with this. 

1825
01:41:23,300 --> 01:41:26,400
What are your basic yourself on?
What are the parameters of what 

1826
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:29,300
is your, what is your foundation
to prove this? 

1827
01:41:29,300 --> 01:41:32,800
For example, is this arbitrary 
is this proven is this. 

1828
01:41:33,100 --> 01:41:35,300
What what what results did you 
get with this? 

1829
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:39,600
So you see Have to start working
now with with stuff that we've 

1830
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:41,900
done that. 
We find that about this. 

1831
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:47,400
And I tell you that there is a 
lot to learn about people to 

1832
01:41:47,500 --> 01:41:50,300
develop talents, and don't like,
let's leave dogs out for a 

1833
01:41:50,300 --> 01:41:54,700
second and if you want to find 
the best possible way to develop

1834
01:41:54,700 --> 01:41:59,300
a new skill, this is psychology.
And then later comes a how later

1835
01:41:59,300 --> 01:42:02,200
comes the motor skills motor, 
fine, motor skills, gross motor,

1836
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:06,300
skills of cognitive skills, 
social skills, aesthetic skills.

1837
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:11,800
All this stuff right now, 
becomes holistic, but in the 

1838
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:15,900
end, let's first Define, what 
we're looking after what we 

1839
01:42:15,900 --> 01:42:18,900
want. 
And then we can set up a plan. 

1840
01:42:18,900 --> 01:42:22,600
This is how this works. 
Dog, training, is based on your 

1841
01:42:22,900 --> 01:42:27,500
current status of skill, 
competencies same for the dog. 

1842
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,500
Now, let's build everything 
else. 

1843
01:42:29,500 --> 01:42:33,600
You can watch 20 seminars. 
You get some tips here, you get 

1844
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:36,500
some tips here, but you, you're 
really don't. 

1845
01:42:36,700 --> 01:42:39,600
First and why this guy's keep 
winning all the trophies and 

1846
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:41,800
you're not trying to do the 
same. 

1847
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,300
I'm in this club, I try to look 
at him all the time. 

1848
01:42:44,300 --> 01:42:48,000
I've been in clubs where people 
were high level Champions and 

1849
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:50,800
some people that looked it to 
this guy, 20 years and they 

1850
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:52,900
could not do it and they see him
do it. 

1851
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:55,700
Does that mean there they have? 
No hands didn't. 

1852
01:42:55,700 --> 01:42:58,600
They're not working. 
Yeah, but there's you see. 

1853
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:02,300
But it's so it's almost am like 
oh well of course you know, it 

1854
01:43:02,300 --> 01:43:03,800
doesn't mean because you're not 
talented. 

1855
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:05,200
So the other guys more talented.
Yes. 

1856
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:09,100
But what Eels. 
Then is he using that the other 

1857
01:43:09,100 --> 01:43:11,900
guy doesn't have can look? 
Can we at least Define these? 

1858
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:13,200
Why? 
He is winning? 

1859
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:15,900
And this guy is not because I 
wrote showing up. 

1860
01:43:15,900 --> 01:43:17,700
They both have passion. 
They both have discipline, they 

1861
01:43:17,700 --> 01:43:19,500
both are focused. 
They both have the same genetic,

1862
01:43:19,500 --> 01:43:21,700
dog. 
He even uses the same dog as the

1863
01:43:21,700 --> 01:43:23,900
same. 
He used the offs, this guy, 

1864
01:43:23,900 --> 01:43:28,300
whatever, and still they 
stagnate very fast, this guy 

1865
01:43:28,300 --> 01:43:31,300
always wins. 
Wins wins wins, stacking wins. 

1866
01:43:32,900 --> 01:43:37,100
This is something really have to
get to the bottom of Don't just 

1867
01:43:37,100 --> 01:43:40,600
take all his his more gifted 
than you, but that's not the 

1868
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:43,300
answer. 
Why is the Olympian that I 

1869
01:43:43,300 --> 01:43:45,400
trained with why? 
Is he better than me? 

1870
01:43:45,700 --> 01:43:48,700
I trained just as much as him. 
I look like him. 

1871
01:43:48,900 --> 01:43:51,700
Seriously, you took my picture 
when I was 25. 

1872
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:54,100
I look like him. 
My legs. 

1873
01:43:54,100 --> 01:43:55,600
My everything. 
Looks like him. 

1874
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:59,300
I'm just as tall as him. 
I'm explosive everything. 

1875
01:43:59,300 --> 01:44:01,200
Why is he running always faster 
than I am? 

1876
01:44:01,700 --> 01:44:03,700
We're talking tenths of a second
right? 

1877
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:07,800
Why Okay, now we have to look 
into slow motion, are you have 

1878
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:11,200
to look into depth Plyometrics 
psychology? 

1879
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:14,700
What let what's influencing this
this performance here? 

1880
01:44:15,300 --> 01:44:17,800
Now, all of a sudden, it's a 
little bit more skills. 

1881
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:21,800
It's so many things here. 
Now, we become never comes high 

1882
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:23,700
level, right? 
Because you want to understand 

1883
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:28,500
why you are not hitting the mark
and the higher the level gets. 

1884
01:44:28,900 --> 01:44:32,500
Well the the more sources you 
need, the more professionals. 

1885
01:44:32,500 --> 01:44:35,900
You need to to think, okay, 
what's Happening Here Why is 

1886
01:44:35,900 --> 01:44:38,300
Usain Bolt winning everything? 
Why is he making everybody else 

1887
01:44:38,300 --> 01:44:40,800
look so bad? 
How is this possible? 

1888
01:44:42,100 --> 01:44:44,700
I think, I think, as you 
mentioned it gets holistic 

1889
01:44:44,700 --> 01:44:50,400
because there are so many parts 
that that play their parts in 

1890
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,200
the whole game. 
It's, of course, it's talented 

1891
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:57,600
discipline, it's genetics. 
Obviously, and do, you know the 

1892
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:03,100
book for sure, you know, the 
power of habits, who wrote it. 

1893
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:08,300
The check his family name is 
Hanuman, I believe. 

1894
01:45:10,500 --> 01:45:14,300
Daniel can Kahneman. 
No, sorry. 

1895
01:45:14,300 --> 01:45:16,200
It's not. 
No, it's a different one. 

1896
01:45:18,700 --> 01:45:22,200
I'm reading and I'm listening to
books so I sometimes I really 

1897
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:23,900
mix it up. 
Yeah. 

1898
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:33,200
One was The Power of Habit by 
Charles duhigg and it's a great 

1899
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:38,300
one to listen to and he's 
talking about one of her. 

1900
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:46,200
Olympic swimmer and he obviously
his coach when he first met him 

1901
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:50,000
saw. 
The this boy has the physique 

1902
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:55,000
and the talent for swimming and 
to become the best of the world 

1903
01:45:55,700 --> 01:45:57,400
and in the end in the end, he 
was right. 

1904
01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:00,900
But what what made the 
difference between all the other

1905
01:46:00,900 --> 01:46:06,000
swimmers is, is what was 
creating habits that just made a

1906
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:09,200
big difference? 
Not targeting the swimming 

1907
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,300
itself. 
But it was targeting the whole 

1908
01:46:11,300 --> 01:46:17,100
preparation, the daily routine, 
and of course, or obviously this

1909
01:46:17,100 --> 01:46:22,100
place, or if it has a high 
impact on the end performance. 

1910
01:46:22,100 --> 01:46:27,700
So it's the whole preparation. 
That goes ahead of the 

1911
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,400
performance of a runner or a 
swimmer. 

1912
01:46:30,700 --> 01:46:37,300
And in the quantity might take a
few minutes only, but Yeah for 

1913
01:46:37,300 --> 01:46:40,800
me. 
And I've had very little 

1914
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:44,700
knowledge about psychology. 
I didn't studied or whatever so 

1915
01:46:44,700 --> 01:46:49,500
I'm but I think there's so many 
parts that we still don't 

1916
01:46:49,500 --> 01:46:52,600
understand. 
Yeah. 

1917
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:55,700
And that's because we don't 
understand them be, we break 

1918
01:46:55,700 --> 01:46:57,300
them down as motor skills for 
dogs. 

1919
01:46:57,900 --> 01:47:00,700
Yeah, no seriously, that's what 
happens is. 

1920
01:47:01,100 --> 01:47:04,800
Always, here's your worth my, 
how to where's my step-by-step, 

1921
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,700
and all honesty. 
I use the term step-by-step 

1922
01:47:07,700 --> 01:47:11,800
sometimes and you know, yeah and
creating the content, because if

1923
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:14,600
I talk about all this holistic 
stuff, like in my introduction, 

1924
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:16,500
people would go with it. 
What it's going on here, is 

1925
01:47:16,500 --> 01:47:18,800
this, they can't comprehend what
he says. 

1926
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:22,800
So I say step by step, but it's 
What people like to hear is a 

1927
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,200
step by step, but if you think 
about it, step-by-step, what a 

1928
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,100
dog, it's a very individual 
process. 

1929
01:47:27,100 --> 01:47:30,200
The dog is also very individual.
So it actually can be 

1930
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:33,200
step-by-step because, you know, 
everybody's level is different, 

1931
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,000
everybody's dogs reaction is 
different. 

1932
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:40,300
So by definition, it has to be 
already very interactive because

1933
01:47:40,300 --> 01:47:43,100
you need to ask me questions 
like a but I tried this and 

1934
01:47:43,100 --> 01:47:45,200
that's not working so we have to
make assessments right? 

1935
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:48,000
So there's got to be multiple 
dogs on this program, there's 

1936
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,700
got to be multiple type of 
handlers on this program because

1937
01:47:50,700 --> 01:47:54,500
else Are we going to Benchmark 
what's gonna work and what's 

1938
01:47:54,500 --> 01:47:58,400
going to be a potential problem?
So, I think the way of teaching 

1939
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:02,900
also changed a whole lot, the, 
the way we are able to process 

1940
01:48:02,900 --> 01:48:05,600
images and videos and 100 frames
per second. 

1941
01:48:05,900 --> 01:48:10,100
You know what that is before 
something happened is like that 

1942
01:48:10,100 --> 01:48:12,600
was, I don't know what that was,
but then you can look at a 

1943
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:15,400
hundred times, you never see it 
until you see. 120 frames per 

1944
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:17,500
second in super slow motion 
close up. 

1945
01:48:17,500 --> 01:48:21,200
Whoo, now, you see things now 
you see you consciously see. 

1946
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:25,200
Oh here is where he's doing 
something that I did not see 

1947
01:48:25,500 --> 01:48:28,900
here is where the footwork is 
going to be such a detail in 

1948
01:48:28,900 --> 01:48:33,300
this ultimate you know, shift of
weight and you all these things,

1949
01:48:33,300 --> 01:48:34,400
right? 
All right. 

1950
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:36,700
This is a new way of teaching. 
We didn't have 50 years ago to 

1951
01:48:36,700 --> 01:48:38,700
20 years ago. 
Not even 10 years ago hundred 

1952
01:48:38,700 --> 01:48:42,500
frames per second and 4K. 
That's like I can poke your nose

1953
01:48:42,700 --> 01:48:48,600
on a 70 inch screen and look in 
slow motion as clear as it could

1954
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:50,900
possibly get. 
It's insane. 

1955
01:48:50,900 --> 01:48:52,500
How clear that is. 
So that's a camera. 

1956
01:48:52,500 --> 01:48:55,400
For example, we used to shoot. 
I did slow motions. 

1957
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:58,800
But of course, you will want to 
have to see it because if I give

1958
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,300
you the video just like I don't 
care about how did stock moves 

1959
01:49:01,300 --> 01:49:02,900
or how he moves? 
Well then of course it's not 

1960
01:49:02,900 --> 01:49:05,800
going to be useful but if you 
want to analyze, if you finally 

1961
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:09,500
say, hey, he's given away the 
blueprint of what he does. 

1962
01:49:09,500 --> 01:49:13,300
So let me see then, what is the 
detail here? 

1963
01:49:13,300 --> 01:49:17,200
Because it is in details a lot. 
Then, you can at least look, but

1964
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:19,800
if you can't see, you're not 
going to pick anything up. 

1965
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:24,200
So if we talk about this podcast
but you turn off the volume 

1966
01:49:24,500 --> 01:49:26,200
with, you're not going to hear 
it, you're not going to get 

1967
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:29,000
anything out of it. 
It's the same with everything 

1968
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:31,900
either you want it and you're 
going to listen, you're going to

1969
01:49:31,900 --> 01:49:36,200
process your brain is going to 
start working and find ways or 

1970
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:37,500
you don't. 
Maybe you're looking for the 

1971
01:49:37,508 --> 01:49:39,400
heck, maybe looking for the 
shortcut. 

1972
01:49:39,500 --> 01:49:42,900
Maybe a, if I get this secret 
from him, I'll get my faster 

1973
01:49:42,900 --> 01:49:45,000
results. 
But I tell you right now, the 

1974
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:48,200
definition again, for the fifth 
time, it's a combination of 

1975
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:49,800
unique skills that allows you to
do things better. 

1976
01:49:49,900 --> 01:49:52,300
Run faster. 
So unless you have learned the 

1977
01:49:52,300 --> 01:49:56,000
skill right explanation? 
Mark earned it through work, 

1978
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:58,400
you're not going to get it. 
So that's why I go into a 

1979
01:49:58,407 --> 01:50:02,400
seminar and people give me dogs 
and I have five minutes, ten 

1980
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:05,300
minutes and they tell me do this
because it's not working for me.

1981
01:50:05,500 --> 01:50:07,600
And they've trained this dog for
one year a few if you think 

1982
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,600
about it, how crazy that it's so
you train. 

1983
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:11,700
The dog. 
For one year, you asked me five 

1984
01:50:11,700 --> 01:50:12,700
minutes? 
I don't know this dog. 

1985
01:50:12,700 --> 01:50:14,900
I know this place. 
I've never been here and you 

1986
01:50:14,900 --> 01:50:17,400
want me to get better result and
you have in five minutes, how is

1987
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,800
this possible? 
Well, I'll tell you why. 

1988
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:24,000
Because by using multiple skills
simultaneously, you can do 

1989
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:25,400
things better faster than 
somebody else. 

1990
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:29,400
And in this case in five minutes
it is truly happening in five 

1991
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:30,200
minutes. 
Yeah. 

1992
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:34,100
But of course if you do not have
all the skills that you're not 

1993
01:50:34,100 --> 01:50:37,400
going to take that dog, you're 
going to find all the reasons to

1994
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:39,500
not, take that leash. 
Oh yes. 

1995
01:50:39,500 --> 01:50:42,300
You're going to find your way 
through the the event that you 

1996
01:50:42,300 --> 01:50:44,700
don't have to hold anybody's. 
Leash lovelorn anybody's, dog. 

1997
01:50:44,700 --> 01:50:49,000
Let alone anybody's problem. 
You don't want that, why? 

1998
01:50:49,300 --> 01:50:51,600
Because maybe, If you have not 
learned the skills and maybe you

1999
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:54,300
don't consciously know what 
components are going to be have 

2000
01:50:54,300 --> 01:50:57,200
to be used here, and maybe your 
analytics are too low to make 

2001
01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:00,400
this assessment in one second. 
Two seconds, 50 seconds, one 

2002
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:03,600
minute you're being put on the 
spot. 50 people watching you 

2003
01:51:04,100 --> 01:51:06,100
right? 
You want to look bad when 50 

2004
01:51:06,100 --> 01:51:09,000
people watch you you just as bad
as a guy giving you the dog? 

2005
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:13,600
No of course not sure how now 
we're seeing also differences in

2006
01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:18,800
yeah approach. 
And the thing, that's the point.

2007
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:23,100
So I don't think people get 
shocked, but they, at least 

2008
01:51:23,100 --> 01:51:26,700
they're that smart, that they 
are aware of how much work it is

2009
01:51:26,700 --> 01:51:34,200
to earn this new set to earn the
experience to to to realize 

2010
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:40,100
what's what it costs to create a
certain movement and reaction 

2011
01:51:40,100 --> 01:51:44,100
from the learner, the dog and 
there. 

2012
01:51:44,100 --> 01:51:48,200
I think we see the separation of
Of people who have the grit and 

2013
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:51,700
the endurance to go and start 
doing it, who know that the 

2014
01:51:51,700 --> 01:51:54,700
journey is going to be long. 
Because you didn't, you didn't, 

2015
01:51:54,700 --> 01:51:57,400
you weren't born with this 
skills, right? 

2016
01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:00,300
You're not Supernatural. 
You just put a lot of work and 

2017
01:52:00,300 --> 01:52:04,500
effort into it and I think but 
Florian, let me get back to you 

2018
01:52:04,500 --> 01:52:07,300
on the grid. 
The grid Factor has been studied

2019
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:11,200
by scientists to see how 
important is great. 

2020
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:15,100
You know, if it's 
performance-based and you know 

2021
01:52:15,100 --> 01:52:19,000
where it was Nificant very 
significant results based on 

2022
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:21,400
grid was only and Special 
Forces. 

2023
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:23,900
For example, and highly Elite 
levels. 

2024
01:52:24,100 --> 01:52:28,100
Were your skills were actually 
not relevant anymore. 

2025
01:52:28,300 --> 01:52:31,300
You can have people go into 
testing pool of Special Forces 

2026
01:52:31,300 --> 01:52:33,400
and they have physique. 
They have skilled have power, 

2027
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:36,100
they have strength, they have 
all the, all the traits, all the

2028
01:52:36,100 --> 01:52:38,200
traits to become the perfect 
Soldier. 

2029
01:52:38,900 --> 01:52:41,000
It's irrelevant. 
If you don't have the grid then,

2030
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,500
or usually the grit is the 
factor if you're going to make 

2031
01:52:43,500 --> 01:52:45,000
it. 
That's not the case in dog 

2032
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:47,600
training. 
If Are going to test grid for is

2033
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:49,600
very important here. 
If you're going to test grid 

2034
01:52:49,900 --> 01:52:52,400
with dog trainers or aspiring 
dog trainers, you're gonna have 

2035
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,600
nobody left. 
There's not going to be any 

2036
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:57,200
Doctrine or so how do we avoid 
this growth factor? 

2037
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:01,900
Playing the biggest part is by 
using people's strengths also. 

2038
01:53:01,900 --> 01:53:04,500
So you also have to use strength
continuously. 

2039
01:53:04,700 --> 01:53:07,500
Let's say you define somebody 
who wants to be a working dog 

2040
01:53:07,500 --> 01:53:10,200
trainer and you define a big 
weakness and you tell him all 

2041
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:11,000
day. 
This what you do? 

2042
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:12,600
It is what you did, is what you 
have to keep training. 

2043
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:16,000
This, you will ask his growth 
factor to stand. 

2044
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,500
If he doesn't have this great 
factories going to quit, but the

2045
01:53:19,500 --> 01:53:21,600
problem is, you're in dog 
trainers. 

2046
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:24,000
You can't consistently be 
looking for grits, high growth 

2047
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:28,000
factors because this is 
something not as trivial. 

2048
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:32,900
As we just named it to Port 
factors, like strength can 

2049
01:53:32,900 --> 01:53:36,000
strength be used now 
interchangeably with Talent or 

2050
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:38,400
is there are three different 
differently again. 

2051
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:42,000
I'm talking about Sin in dog, 
trainers. 

2052
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:45,100
Yes, well, and strength, pure 
physically, let's say you have 

2053
01:53:45,100 --> 01:53:47,400
left, you have done that. 
Left work, you have done the the

2054
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:49,300
cardio work. 
You have two traits like the 

2055
01:53:49,300 --> 01:53:52,000
traits to become a great Soldier
physically. 

2056
01:53:52,700 --> 01:53:55,100
But having the trade itself is 
not going to get you through 

2057
01:53:55,100 --> 01:53:57,000
Special Forces. 
We know they're going to test 

2058
01:53:57,000 --> 01:54:00,400
you to see the grid to see if 
you don't want to be there 

2059
01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:03,400
anymore or you staying, you are 
you choosing to stay. 

2060
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:06,600
If you can go and we make it so 
hard on you, this is your growth

2061
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:09,600
factor and this is something 
that not a lot of people have. 

2062
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:12,300
That's why there's a reason. 
There's only so many special 

2063
01:54:12,300 --> 01:54:16,400
forces elite soldiers and this 
is that's why I mean Have to be 

2064
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,700
careful if this is what you want
is kept from dog trainers, 

2065
01:54:18,700 --> 01:54:21,900
you're going to not have any 
Doctrine or left so if you make 

2066
01:54:21,900 --> 01:54:26,200
it so hard if you make the skill
so an obtained unattainable that

2067
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,100
they have to use their grit to 
get through it. 

2068
01:54:28,500 --> 01:54:31,600
Well that basically you you 
punish them for their weakness 

2069
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:33,300
and use it. 
Do it again, do it again, do it 

2070
01:54:33,300 --> 01:54:35,100
show me again right you quit you
go. 

2071
01:54:35,700 --> 01:54:38,500
This is not the way to go 
because you want to be like 

2072
01:54:38,500 --> 01:54:40,700
strengthen people you have to 
always use their strengths. 

2073
01:54:40,700 --> 01:54:42,800
But how do you define their 
strength is by making an 

2074
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:45,200
assessment? 
Make an assessment from Ground 

2075
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:47,200
Zero. 
How do you make this assessment 

2076
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:49,200
role? 
That's where ICS canine comes in

2077
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:51,900
and helps you make this 
assessment, but it's only 

2078
01:54:51,900 --> 01:54:55,500
useful. 
If you your, have your vision 

2079
01:54:55,500 --> 01:54:59,100
ready, if you just come in 
looking for the hack and I give 

2080
01:54:59,100 --> 01:55:01,400
you an assessment or you still 
going to ask me the same 

2081
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:02,400
question. 
Where's my hack? 

2082
01:55:02,700 --> 01:55:04,200
Where's my food? 
When am I stopped using the 

2083
01:55:04,208 --> 01:55:05,700
food? 
When I stopped using the leash? 

2084
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:08,000
When I stopped using this one or
two, get my free of freestyle 

2085
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:09,800
healing. 
When I get my friends, when you 

2086
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:13,000
see when one Wonder Woman, look,
take it easy here. 

2087
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:15,700
This is the journey. 
This is not a ten day. 

2088
01:55:16,100 --> 01:55:19,600
You're going to walk. 
This is a six-month bad 12-month

2089
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:21,400
bad. 
Okay, so take it easy. 

2090
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:22,500
Sit down. 
Assess. 

2091
01:55:22,900 --> 01:55:27,500
What people go into my MVPs. 
My highest class 700 videos. 

2092
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:31,200
You can't just rush in and see 
700 videos and that's it next 

2093
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:31,900
day. 
I'm ready. 

2094
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:34,400
What do you mean? 
You're ready? 

2095
01:55:34,500 --> 01:55:36,100
Is a process. 
Yeah. 

2096
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:38,600
So and that's that's the thing, 
you know, because of the 

2097
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:42,500
internet to swipe culture. 
Swipe swipe swipe to the left. 

2098
01:55:42,500 --> 01:55:44,600
Swipe to the right. 
You know, this is what it is. 

2099
01:55:44,700 --> 01:55:48,100
People don't see it. 
It has a white dog training. 

2100
01:55:48,100 --> 01:55:51,800
Also consists of multiple 
skills, but I don't even want to

2101
01:55:51,808 --> 01:55:53,600
listen, what skills? 
I just want to result with the 

2102
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:58,300
dog. 
Well, good luck to you see how 

2103
01:55:59,700 --> 01:56:02,600
you you did your homework here. 
I really enjoyed it. 

2104
01:56:02,700 --> 01:56:05,800
Listening to these. 
Did his minutes and I hope you 

2105
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:08,500
still have some more time left 
for lips. 

2106
01:56:08,500 --> 01:56:12,000
I'm like I can do this all day 
every day. 

2107
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:15,200
I believe is this is what I told
you in the beginning, this is 

2108
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:17,700
what I do. 
This is this is what I live for 

2109
01:56:17,700 --> 01:56:22,400
is what I wake up for. 
This is my mission so nice. 

2110
01:56:22,900 --> 01:56:27,100
Very impressive, really enjoy 
this Sony, no back to the 

2111
01:56:27,100 --> 01:56:29,000
catalog of questions, I've 
prepared. 

2112
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:32,300
Sure. 
And I'm curious about this one. 

2113
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:37,600
This is about your person. 
What was one of the biggest 

2114
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:39,800
mistakes you did in dog 
training. 

2115
01:56:46,700 --> 01:56:51,600
That's a hard question, really. 
See because there's so many 

2116
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:55,100
mistakes that I that I make. 
But like you're talking minor 

2117
01:56:55,100 --> 01:56:59,900
mistakes, big mistakes. 
Maybe it was a small mistake. 

2118
01:56:59,900 --> 01:57:03,800
But with a major impact on on 
how the treated things in 

2119
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:06,200
future. 
Yeah. 

2120
01:57:06,900 --> 01:57:09,000
Maybe the biggest mistake was I 
can. 

2121
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:12,200
Yeah, the biggest mistake was 
because I'm very technical, 

2122
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:13,500
right? 
And if you look at my videos, 

2123
01:57:13,500 --> 01:57:15,000
You'll see it's all has to be 
done. 

2124
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:18,800
We cool, but I think a lot of 
competition is one. 

2125
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:24,700
Also, with haven't great cardio,
which I did not always prepare. 

2126
01:57:24,900 --> 01:57:28,300
So it's not because you you do 
your routine twice a week or 

2127
01:57:28,300 --> 01:57:31,900
twice a day, I mean that you 
have great cardio could you know

2128
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,700
stamina for the dog? 
So I think this is something I 

2129
01:57:34,700 --> 01:57:38,400
underestimated. 
Now here on the MVP we also had 

2130
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:40,800
great Champion Christian 
Fletcher nor of you've heard of 

2131
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:43,000
him very special guy, you should
interview them. 

2132
01:57:43,300 --> 01:57:46,000
He's like he's one in a Million 
really. 

2133
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:50,000
Yeah, Christian Fletcher. 
So yeah, he also did a chapter 

2134
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:52,600
on my MVP on how he became a 
world champion. 

2135
01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:56,200
And I was so impressed with it 
and I told him when I talked to 

2136
01:57:56,208 --> 01:58:01,100
him and he he talked about his 
routine and I knew right? 

2137
01:58:01,100 --> 01:58:04,600
Then I said not in a million 
years, I would beat you the way 

2138
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:08,100
you train and what I do there's 
no way even though I am 

2139
01:58:08,100 --> 01:58:11,600
technically better than 
Christian mean as an I can tell 

2140
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:15,300
that why because I've seen it 
myself like you know, The 

2141
01:58:15,300 --> 01:58:18,200
coordination of the body 
movement, the way I can perfect 

2142
01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:21,200
movement into the dock, but it's
not going to win me that title 

2143
01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:25,900
but he was capitalizing on 
things that would get into win 

2144
01:58:25,900 --> 01:58:29,600
that title. 
So and it's that, you know, that

2145
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:34,300
mistake that I would make and 
over compensating with, you 

2146
01:58:34,300 --> 01:58:37,300
know, technique and stuff like 
that and and, you know, doing it

2147
01:58:37,300 --> 01:58:41,100
in a certain way that he would 
have the Competitive Edge all 

2148
01:58:41,100 --> 01:58:45,300
the time, because his dog will 
be way more prepared to Do a 

2149
01:58:45,300 --> 01:58:50,100
routine in 30 minutes and 
blistering heat, and still, you 

2150
01:58:50,100 --> 01:58:52,900
know, do everything. 
Perfect. 

2151
01:58:52,900 --> 01:58:55,600
So it has to do with a 
combination of things. 

2152
01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:58,700
And I think that's a mistake 
that I, when I was competing. 

2153
01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:02,200
I overlooked, I didn't think of 
this. 

2154
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:04,700
How much of an impact this would
have? 

2155
01:59:05,500 --> 01:59:11,300
It's a great point, I think, And
it doesn't depend on what you're

2156
01:59:11,300 --> 01:59:13,100
doing, but this soon as it gets 
too. 

2157
01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:18,400
The possibility of having to do 
it a longer time for a service 

2158
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:21,300
dog or yeah. 
Every talk that you can't 

2159
01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:22,300
definitely. 
No. 

2160
01:59:22,700 --> 01:59:25,300
Is the task going to be 10 
minutes or three hours? 

2161
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:30,700
Yeah I'm looking to prepare for.
Yeah, absolutely one. 

2162
01:59:31,300 --> 01:59:33,200
Good one. 
We haven't had this so far. 

2163
01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:37,700
Yeah, we hope to look at a lot, 
so I think the overlooking is a 

2164
01:59:37,708 --> 01:59:40,400
big mistake because if you 
overlook, it means, you missed 

2165
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:43,300
opportunities because we're 
going to make mistakes anyways. 

2166
01:59:44,300 --> 01:59:47,700
Going to its inevitable but 
missing an opportunity it's like

2167
01:59:47,700 --> 01:59:50,000
all day. 
That's something I don't like. 

2168
01:59:52,900 --> 01:59:57,200
Yeah, I've just been to 
Switzerland for workshop for 

2169
01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:03,100
search and rescue organization 
and and their mission Readiness 

2170
02:00:03,100 --> 02:00:11,300
test, lasts for 3 to 4 hours and
and these are multiple searches 

2171
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:16,000
after each other in Alpine 
surroundings. 

2172
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:21,600
So your they are not defining 
Hector's like we know from 

2173
02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:24,100
areas. 
Is a wellness Services yet from 

2174
02:00:24,100 --> 02:00:27,800
Iowa or something? 
You have six ha or 45,000 square

2175
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:32,300
meter to search and they count 
in in meters in height. 

2176
02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:36,700
So this is not an additional 
part and they have to prepare 

2177
02:00:36,700 --> 02:00:44,300
the dogs and for for being able 
to endure these physical. 

2178
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:49,200
Yeah tasks. 
And and then I went to Germany 

2179
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:54,500
to to part two or more flat part
and there was a difference in 

2180
02:00:54,900 --> 02:00:57,100
nothing. 
All dogs of course, but the dogs

2181
02:00:57,100 --> 02:01:01,200
physique from the mountain 
organization to the flat land. 

2182
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:05,700
And doesn't, I don't want to 
rate, but there was obviously a 

2183
02:01:05,700 --> 02:01:11,600
difference and it's important 
fact to to regard. 

2184
02:01:12,100 --> 02:01:13,400
Yeah, yeah. 
Especially if we go. 

2185
02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:17,100
And look at high-performance, 
you really have to do your 

2186
02:01:17,100 --> 02:01:21,200
homework on what's going to be 
Competitive Edge if you if 

2187
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:24,300
you're determined. 
When if you're like a, if I'm 

2188
02:01:24,300 --> 02:01:27,700
good and I'm probably going to 
get maybe a shot or I'm going to

2189
02:01:27,708 --> 02:01:32,000
maybe, you know, if you say I 
want this, it seemed like a, how

2190
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:35,600
do you become the best YouTuber 
in the world if you ever thought

2191
02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:37,600
about this? 
How do you get the most views? 

2192
02:01:37,600 --> 02:01:39,600
I get the most. 
How do you do it? 

2193
02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:45,500
See again, how to, well, I guess
being the best YouTuber in there

2194
02:01:45,500 --> 02:01:49,600
or highest-paid YouTuber is not 
your concern because else you 

2195
02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:54,300
would go, okay, I know it's Here
is it like is my I have ideas 

2196
02:01:54,300 --> 02:01:57,700
but you look, that's the thing. 
You really want it? 

2197
02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:00,100
What do you what do you think it
will take? 

2198
02:02:00,900 --> 02:02:03,200
And that's, that's where you are
already. 

2199
02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:10,600
Tell me how serious you are. 
So Because we all want 

2200
02:02:10,600 --> 02:02:12,600
something, we all want 
something. 

2201
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:15,500
But the question is what are we 
willing to sacrifice? 

2202
02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:20,300
Everybody wants muscles. 
Of course, I don't know anybody 

2203
02:02:20,300 --> 02:02:22,300
that says, no, I want fat belly,
you know? 

2204
02:02:22,300 --> 02:02:24,700
Of course, if I can have a 
choice, I'll take the muscles, 

2205
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:29,500
but of course, the effort for 
muscles or the effort for a fat 

2206
02:02:29,500 --> 02:02:33,100
belly is very different, right? 
One is pleasure and one other 

2207
02:02:33,100 --> 02:02:37,300
one is sacrifice. 
Yes, when everybody's enjoying 

2208
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:42,900
something, you know, tasty, 
you're eating, you know, very 

2209
02:02:42,900 --> 02:02:47,000
plain, stuff, whatever. 
So yeah, it's a sacrifice that 

2210
02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:50,500
Want to do you sacrifice sleep. 
Also, if you train dogs, it's 

2211
02:02:50,500 --> 02:02:52,500
all day. 
I mean, all day, all day, every 

2212
02:02:52,500 --> 02:02:56,600
day you sacrifice rest because 
this dog has to come on. 

2213
02:02:56,700 --> 02:02:59,700
This is like 365. 
He can take vacation. 

2214
02:02:59,700 --> 02:03:01,800
He cannot call you up and say, 
it's good man. 

2215
02:03:01,900 --> 02:03:03,900
You can just, you can sleep in 
today. 

2216
02:03:04,500 --> 02:03:07,800
We're good here in the do just, 
like, I want out. 

2217
02:03:07,800 --> 02:03:09,600
I want to do something. 
You have to like this. 

2218
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:12,700
Dog is a machine. 
Like, he's programmed to hunt. 

2219
02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:15,400
He's not gonna, he's not just 
gonna lay there. 

2220
02:03:15,800 --> 02:03:18,000
I don't know what types of dogs.
Some people have. 

2221
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:22,200
But here they are awake and they
want to want to move. 

2222
02:03:22,500 --> 02:03:24,600
Yeah. 
So you better move. 

2223
02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:30,000
So we move on to the next one 
Nina. 

2224
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:32,800
What was the worst advice you've
ever received? 

2225
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:39,900
The worst advice. 
Well, the worst advice is the 

2226
02:03:39,900 --> 02:03:42,800
one you took. 
You execute it. 

2227
02:03:43,100 --> 02:03:48,100
That's that's usually where the 
didn't really get me all the 

2228
02:03:48,100 --> 02:03:51,400
way. 
So the worst advice in dog 

2229
02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:56,100
training itself would be 
resorting to brutality. 

2230
02:03:56,700 --> 02:03:59,400
That's to me. 
Is the worst advice brutality. 

2231
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:05,600
If the brutality is the answer, 
I will accept my loss because 

2232
02:04:05,700 --> 02:04:08,600
you know, I made me. 
Income for certain scene. 

2233
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:13,000
And then I think if today, I 
would say, all right, I guess 

2234
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:17,500
I'm not going to, I'm not going 
to just take this and be happy 

2235
02:04:17,500 --> 02:04:21,200
with doing this and then maybe 
getting that result by resorting

2236
02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:24,900
to this type of stuff. 
I don't like, I don't like 

2237
02:04:24,900 --> 02:04:27,800
violence and dogs brutality, 
that kind of stuff. 

2238
02:04:28,200 --> 02:04:30,500
So it's nothing to do with tools
because tools is very 

2239
02:04:30,500 --> 02:04:34,200
sophisticated in my opinion. 
Yeah, it's very, it needs a lot 

2240
02:04:34,200 --> 02:04:36,400
of skill. 
But when it becomes like truly 

2241
02:04:36,400 --> 02:04:41,200
brutality Yeah, the and this 
advice is being given a lot like

2242
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:43,700
do this, right? 
Slapping kicking while I 

2243
02:04:43,700 --> 02:04:47,400
wouldn't kick maybe but like be 
rough or take this stick, or do 

2244
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:53,500
that or pop the collar this way.
It's like, this is why you why 

2245
02:04:53,500 --> 02:04:55,900
somebody giving this advice, 
why? 

2246
02:04:56,400 --> 02:05:00,400
Because, if you always have to 
ask yourself as a student, do I 

2247
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:04,200
want to become this person? 
Do I wanted his result? 

2248
02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:07,000
And if the answer is, no, then 
don't take his advice. 

2249
02:05:07,400 --> 02:05:12,300
No, it's a very easy rule, you 
want to be him, alright then do 

2250
02:05:12,300 --> 02:05:14,900
what he does. 
You don't want to be him and 

2251
02:05:14,900 --> 02:05:19,300
take his advice. 
This were already helped and 

2252
02:05:19,300 --> 02:05:24,500
everything in life. 
So, if you could, what advice 

2253
02:05:24,500 --> 02:05:27,600
would you give to the 20 year 
old knee? 

2254
02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:34,600
No, I wouldn't, because that's 
the same thing, because advice, 

2255
02:05:35,200 --> 02:05:39,700
can be left or taken. 
What I would do is find yourself

2256
02:05:39,700 --> 02:05:42,900
a role model, a coach, who will 
impact your life. 

2257
02:05:42,900 --> 02:05:46,300
And not just give you advice 
will have an impact by doing the

2258
02:05:46,300 --> 02:05:49,200
things he does. 
And by and, Firing you the way 

2259
02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:53,200
he's executing these things, 
this will be a way better, you 

2260
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:58,300
know? 
Be way better thing to have is 

2261
02:05:58,500 --> 02:06:02,000
getting that, you know, role 
model in front of you. 

2262
02:06:02,300 --> 02:06:05,300
Instead of getting advice, 
everybody gets advice every day.

2263
02:06:05,300 --> 02:06:07,300
Good advice but it leaves it on 
YouTube. 

2264
02:06:07,300 --> 02:06:10,700
It's full of good advice. 
There's people billionaires 

2265
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:13,000
telling you. 
This is how you make money too, 

2266
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:15,600
so I'll become millionaire. 
Well, if you got the advice, why

2267
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:18,500
didn't you take it? 
You see, it's just Advice. 

2268
02:06:18,600 --> 02:06:22,300
Yeah sure it's true. 
Instagram is full of it but if 

2269
02:06:22,300 --> 02:06:25,500
you looking for coaching, yeah, 
if you're looking for impact in 

2270
02:06:25,500 --> 02:06:28,500
your life that's going to 
significantly change everything 

2271
02:06:28,500 --> 02:06:31,100
about my life, we're not talking
advice. 

2272
02:06:32,100 --> 02:06:34,400
Now we're talking, different 
level B level. 

2273
02:06:34,500 --> 02:06:38,000
This is you to the core if you, 
if IB am your coach and my 

2274
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:42,000
ethics, your, my core beliefs. 
Do not align with yours. 

2275
02:06:42,200 --> 02:06:45,600
I can never be your coach never 
never. 

2276
02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:50,000
See the acceptance of somebody's
ethics. 

2277
02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:53,400
Somebody's moral somebody's, you
know, core beliefs. 

2278
02:06:53,600 --> 02:06:58,600
This is the first step to B and 
B and eligible to coach. 

2279
02:06:59,800 --> 02:07:02,300
So if you don't have that, 
forget it. 

2280
02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:05,300
So I can give all the advice a 
Florian, do this. 

2281
02:07:05,300 --> 02:07:08,900
Do this look what work for me. 
It's never going to work. 

2282
02:07:09,300 --> 02:07:12,800
Never so and this is why I 
advise, you know, in school they

2283
02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:14,300
start giving you advice right 
away. 

2284
02:07:14,900 --> 02:07:18,500
So everybody Goes his own path. 
You don't take your teacher as 

2285
02:07:18,500 --> 02:07:20,700
your coach or your coach is just
T. 

2286
02:07:20,700 --> 02:07:23,300
Teach you things, right? 
He teaches you math. 

2287
02:07:23,300 --> 02:07:24,900
He teach you how to ride. 
He teach you. 

2288
02:07:24,900 --> 02:07:29,800
Okay, got it. 
Move on next is no no no impact.

2289
02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:33,000
Whatsoever is only a few 
teachers, those you remember, 

2290
02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:43,000
but they're becoming very few. 
So Again, I learned a lot 

2291
02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:48,700
already today and I'm sure our 
listeners as well. 

2292
02:07:49,100 --> 02:07:52,400
So, you know, you've 
accomplished a lot. 

2293
02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:56,000
You've had a service dog working
dog with great records. 

2294
02:07:56,000 --> 02:08:01,300
As you mentioned, you've been 
sporty, you've reached again, 

2295
02:08:01,300 --> 02:08:08,000
your your physique you, you said
them, you build a great Maybe 

2296
02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:10,900
even lifestyle for your 
students. 

2297
02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:16,700
You build great training 
programs that are understandable

2298
02:08:16,700 --> 02:08:18,500
for others. 
So others can do what you're 

2299
02:08:18,500 --> 02:08:21,800
doing and I think that's one of 
the biggest trades for real. 

2300
02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:25,500
Let's I don't want to now to use
the wrong terms but for a coach 

2301
02:08:25,500 --> 02:08:29,100
or for instructors and they're 
able to create training systems 

2302
02:08:29,100 --> 02:08:33,900
that others can apply. 
And I don't know. 

2303
02:08:33,900 --> 02:08:36,400
Did you mention that? 
You, you're having a family. 

2304
02:08:36,700 --> 02:08:41,500
What are you really proud of? 
Your reach, so many things. 

2305
02:08:41,500 --> 02:08:45,200
You accomplished so many tasks. 
Well, I really need to plan out 

2306
02:08:45,400 --> 02:08:50,900
where I'm proud to be happy. 
What makes me also unhappy if 

2307
02:08:50,900 --> 02:08:56,600
you this is a may be hard to 
understand so you know it's to 

2308
02:08:56,600 --> 02:09:00,100
accomplish a goal is one thing 
and then you could be happy. 

2309
02:09:00,100 --> 02:09:02,900
But I'm still unhappy because I 
have so many other things that I

2310
02:09:02,900 --> 02:09:06,800
did not achieve and this. 
So I could be happy being 

2311
02:09:06,800 --> 02:09:09,700
unhappy, this is what I'm 
actually happy about. 

2312
02:09:09,900 --> 02:09:11,800
That to me, I don't need 
anything anymore. 

2313
02:09:12,100 --> 02:09:16,000
So if you say you have tomorrow,
10,000 students or 1000 or 500, 

2314
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:18,700
just maybe one, the one is 
enough for me. 

2315
02:09:19,300 --> 02:09:22,300
If I could spend my time, if I 
do one on one here at my house, 

2316
02:09:22,300 --> 02:09:26,000
I forget about everything but 
everything else, it's also good.

2317
02:09:26,200 --> 02:09:31,000
So because I say you can only 
judge if you need something, if 

2318
02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:34,700
you have it, let's say you have,
let's say money, people 

2319
02:09:34,700 --> 02:09:36,200
sometimes say, yeah, money 
doesn't. 

2320
02:09:36,200 --> 02:09:37,500
Make you happy. 
I'll ask you. 

2321
02:09:37,500 --> 02:09:39,700
Do you have money? 
Yes, it will then. 

2322
02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:43,200
How much do you have? 
So you can judge generally judge

2323
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:45,100
if there's a make you happy 
okay? 

2324
02:09:45,200 --> 02:09:49,200
I have 50,000 okay but maybe 
100,000 maybe 1 million. 

2325
02:09:49,500 --> 02:09:51,500
Maybe how much money would you 
need what you think? 

2326
02:09:51,500 --> 02:09:53,500
This is going to make me happy, 
then make this money and then 

2327
02:09:53,500 --> 02:09:56,200
judge it's the same with the 
physique, it's the same with the

2328
02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:59,000
doc performance. 
Once you have it, how happy did 

2329
02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:01,300
this make you? 
And I can tell you, for me, I 

2330
02:10:01,300 --> 02:10:03,200
told you yesterday. 
When I showed you a little clip,

2331
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:04,500
we didn't, we never talked 
before. 

2332
02:10:05,100 --> 02:10:07,000
And even though we never talk to
send you a little clip, I said, 

2333
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:10,400
look, this is this to me. 
What I enjoy the most But I said

2334
02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:13,200
yesterday, it's be in sync with 
a little puppy for me. 

2335
02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:16,200
That's it. 
This is it to me is the best 

2336
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:19,200
possible feeling a puppy that 
wants to be in the game. 

2337
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:20,700
I don't force him. 
I don't tell him. 

2338
02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:23,400
It's not like, oh yes, but your 
lower base but the dog wants to 

2339
02:10:23,400 --> 02:10:25,800
do this. 
He even when he is fed, he's 

2340
02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:27,300
still coming forward. 
He still coming. 

2341
02:10:27,300 --> 02:10:31,300
Hey hey hey, I want to do this 
because you we can no longer 

2342
02:10:31,600 --> 02:10:34,200
have the dog be a predator. 
We can't just put him in the 

2343
02:10:34,208 --> 02:10:36,900
woods and say bye-bye you live 
your life, you're good. 

2344
02:10:37,300 --> 02:10:40,900
No, he needs to be attached to 
his Domesticated, he needs to be

2345
02:10:40,900 --> 02:10:43,900
attached to his Handler. 
So the Handler, what best 

2346
02:10:43,900 --> 02:10:45,900
possible life. 
Can you give a dog where he 

2347
02:10:45,900 --> 02:10:49,900
chooses to none? 
Say, hey, the work is, is the 

2348
02:10:49,900 --> 02:10:52,600
worth. 
So the work instills, the worth 

2349
02:10:52,700 --> 02:10:55,200
is also one of the quotes that I
love you. 

2350
02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:58,600
You have something now which has
value because you put work in 

2351
02:10:58,600 --> 02:11:01,800
this both of you and because the
dog sees this as value. 

2352
02:11:02,100 --> 02:11:06,900
Now, this value exceeds anything
money, you know, having success 

2353
02:11:07,100 --> 02:11:09,300
anything. 
This the work. 

2354
02:11:09,800 --> 02:11:12,500
The most important. 
This is something that also goes

2355
02:11:12,500 --> 02:11:14,300
to your core, belief as 
Integrity. 

2356
02:11:14,300 --> 02:11:17,200
Hey if I have nothing left, 
let's say today every business 

2357
02:11:17,200 --> 02:11:18,900
is destroyed. 
Economy is dead. 

2358
02:11:18,900 --> 02:11:21,500
Everything everything. 
Everything I could still 

2359
02:11:21,500 --> 02:11:25,400
generally enjoy going outside 
with his dog with a piece of 

2360
02:11:25,400 --> 02:11:27,100
bread because then nobody will 
have money. 

2361
02:11:27,200 --> 02:11:29,900
It's a let's say, we hope piece 
of bread, I can still enjoy 

2362
02:11:29,900 --> 02:11:32,000
this. 
I can still lift a piece of 

2363
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:35,600
weight and I can enjoy this 
because you know, it gives me 

2364
02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:37,800
satisfaction. 
So basically, I need nothing. 

2365
02:11:38,300 --> 02:11:41,400
Really, I still were the same. 
Clothes, as I work 10 years ago,

2366
02:11:41,500 --> 02:11:45,300
as you know, it doesn't change 
anything Heaven 1,000, students 

2367
02:11:45,300 --> 02:11:49,000
are 100 students or 50,000 
students if we can help more 

2368
02:11:49,000 --> 02:11:52,400
people, great, but it's not 
going to change the mission. 

2369
02:11:52,500 --> 02:11:56,500
So I'm happy with that. 
That I've already have impact on

2370
02:11:56,500 --> 02:11:59,700
people's life today, even if 
it's just one guy, two guys, ten

2371
02:11:59,700 --> 02:12:02,600
guys, that's great. 
My mission was I want to be a 

2372
02:12:02,600 --> 02:12:05,600
coach of best possible coach? 
Because I knew what it took for 

2373
02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:09,500
me to become a good trainer. 
Handler K-9 Handler. 

2374
02:12:09,800 --> 02:12:12,000
Proctor. 
So now I made like you said, 

2375
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:17,400
many mistakes and now I can 
learn from this and, you know, 

2376
02:12:17,700 --> 02:12:22,100
give this trade to other people.
And if shown it that they can do

2377
02:12:22,100 --> 02:12:27,100
even better than me. 
I don't know. 

2378
02:12:27,500 --> 02:12:31,100
Whom I've got this quote from, I
think it was live a king. 

2379
02:12:31,100 --> 02:12:36,800
He also found him on Instagram 
and and and he said don't try to

2380
02:12:36,800 --> 02:12:38,500
be like me. 
You will fail. 

2381
02:12:38,500 --> 02:12:41,300
Try to be the best. 
Of yourself that you can be. 

2382
02:12:41,800 --> 02:12:47,900
And actually, I don't I think 
that that's a good one because 

2383
02:12:48,300 --> 02:12:54,000
before you said find an idol 
that you can follow and I think 

2384
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:58,700
that that's a good one, but 
maybe we shouldn't try to copy 

2385
02:12:58,700 --> 02:13:02,200
that. 
That version the try to be the 

2386
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:07,000
best version that we can be like
the comparison of your childhood

2387
02:13:07,000 --> 02:13:09,400
friend or youth friend and 
yourself. 

2388
02:13:09,900 --> 02:13:11,900
You did the same. 
You look the same but still we 

2389
02:13:11,900 --> 02:13:15,500
are different individuals with 
different benefits and traits 

2390
02:13:15,500 --> 02:13:19,400
and and luckily we are not 
clones. 

2391
02:13:20,100 --> 02:13:23,100
Yes. 
But look if you if you look into

2392
02:13:23,100 --> 02:13:26,800
this depth of this be the best 
version of you. 

2393
02:13:26,900 --> 02:13:31,400
Well let's say there's a lot of 
limits of what you know your 

2394
02:13:31,400 --> 02:13:33,900
talent does to you your skill 
development. 

2395
02:13:34,600 --> 02:13:39,300
So I think it's not always easy 
to find what? 

2396
02:13:39,700 --> 02:13:43,200
Skill is suitable for you, what?
Which you learn fast, and then 

2397
02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:46,000
it's easier than to say, I'll 
just be the best version of 

2398
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:48,400
yourself because your whatever 
you do is, is great and it's 

2399
02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:51,500
only going to get better. 
But for some people, having a 

2400
02:13:51,500 --> 02:13:55,500
slum relation to that model of 
what they want to see. 

2401
02:13:55,900 --> 02:13:59,400
It can be helpful if things are 
not going their way, and if they

2402
02:13:59,400 --> 02:14:01,900
have to revert to themselves, 
well, better version of me. 

2403
02:14:01,900 --> 02:14:04,300
And then let's say in the early 
days, we look at yourself like. 

2404
02:14:04,500 --> 02:14:08,200
But there is nothing really to 
to improve from now on that I 

2405
02:14:08,200 --> 02:14:11,800
can look into the mirror and Be 
proud of, so you need that 

2406
02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:14,500
external. 
It's what we call in Psychology 

2407
02:14:14,500 --> 02:14:18,400
the Outside Inside, right? 
So the outside is your 

2408
02:14:18,400 --> 02:14:22,500
inspiration is your, whatever 
you are wanting to obtain and 

2409
02:14:22,500 --> 02:14:26,000
then you revert to the inside. 
And you ask yourself how do I 

2410
02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:30,400
become him or her you knew 
psychology or the new with the 

2411
02:14:30,400 --> 02:14:32,900
better approach would be inside 
out. 

2412
02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:35,900
So, basically, a little bit, 
what the code says, but you 

2413
02:14:35,900 --> 02:14:39,600
understand your own trades, your
own talents, your own energy, 

2414
02:14:39,700 --> 02:14:41,800
Ville. 
And then you have your vision 

2415
02:14:41,800 --> 02:14:44,400
your Ambitions and you 
understand what it will take 

2416
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:49,700
from you to become that, right? 
But in order to do that, we must

2417
02:14:49,700 --> 02:14:53,300
first know how to assess 
ourselves and talents and this 

2418
02:14:53,300 --> 02:14:57,800
also takes maturity and time and
it may be coaching because if 

2419
02:14:57,800 --> 02:15:00,200
you ask anybody and say what are
your talents, what are your 

2420
02:15:00,200 --> 02:15:01,800
trades? 
What are your core beliefs? 

2421
02:15:01,800 --> 02:15:04,100
What are your ethics? 
What for young people? 

2422
02:15:04,100 --> 02:15:07,900
This might be a, whoa wait a 
second here, so they're not sure

2423
02:15:07,900 --> 02:15:09,600
yet, they haven't find the their
way. 

2424
02:15:10,200 --> 02:15:13,900
So for them outside inside is 
something they can relate better

2425
02:15:13,900 --> 02:15:19,800
to than inside outside movement.
So this is a common mistake. 

2426
02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:24,200
We make when we want to achieve 
things is we focus so much on 

2427
02:15:24,200 --> 02:15:26,300
what they have and then the 
first thing we ask them. 

2428
02:15:26,300 --> 02:15:28,600
What do we do to get what he 
has? 

2429
02:15:29,200 --> 02:15:32,400
And the problem is if you don't 
have those internal traits yet 

2430
02:15:32,600 --> 02:15:34,800
you while you're never going to 
get what he has, you see. 

2431
02:15:35,200 --> 02:15:40,200
So, but it usually starts that 
way, it starts with Seeing 

2432
02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:42,500
something, what you want to 
obtain a, what you want to 

2433
02:15:42,500 --> 02:15:46,500
acquire and then if you do your 
work, if you read. 

2434
02:15:46,500 --> 02:15:50,800
If you, you know, if you gain 
knowledge and stuff like that, 

2435
02:15:50,800 --> 02:15:54,500
then you will be able to make 
right assessments and by making 

2436
02:15:54,500 --> 02:15:59,700
these right assessments. 
Now you can design your vision, 

2437
02:15:59,700 --> 02:16:04,200
your ultimate goal within what 
you can possibly do because 

2438
02:16:04,200 --> 02:16:06,500
let's say if I would have kept 
on myself, you're going to be 

2439
02:16:06,500 --> 02:16:07,600
Olympian. 
You're going to be Olympian, 

2440
02:16:07,600 --> 02:16:09,600
you're going to be Olympian, 
it's not going to. 

2441
02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:14,900
So I had to assess but before 
somebody could come in and say 

2442
02:16:14,900 --> 02:16:17,900
the first day, you see this guy.
How fast he runs now. 

2443
02:16:17,900 --> 02:16:21,300
Let me see. 
You just beat focus on you, man.

2444
02:16:21,500 --> 02:16:23,800
You're not going to be him. 
This would not have been a good 

2445
02:16:23,800 --> 02:16:25,300
way to go. 
I was too young. 

2446
02:16:25,700 --> 02:16:28,300
I would have probably thought. 
Well then I guess I'm a nobody 

2447
02:16:28,300 --> 02:16:30,600
loser. 
I'm a you see? 

2448
02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:35,100
So I think both ways right now 
live in. 

2449
02:16:35,108 --> 02:16:39,000
Yeah depending on the situation,
the age experience. 

2450
02:16:39,000 --> 02:16:40,299
Sure. 
Ambition. 

2451
02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:45,200
For sure and also on the 
receiver. 

2452
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:50,600
So as we had the not the issue, 
but the topic with the 

2453
02:16:50,600 --> 02:16:55,799
understanding of terms, it 
really depends on what the 

2454
02:16:55,799 --> 02:17:00,000
receiver does with the 
information and if it sounds 

2455
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:04,200
limiting. 
So if I here Or if I would say 

2456
02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:07,200
to myself, I'm trying to be the 
best version of myself. 

2457
02:17:08,100 --> 02:17:11,299
I wouldn't see the limits. 
You know what I mean? 

2458
02:17:11,400 --> 02:17:15,000
So, yeah, I would describe 
myself for example, is quite 

2459
02:17:15,000 --> 02:17:20,299
Restless, not unhappy, but 
knowing that, that I could do 

2460
02:17:20,299 --> 02:17:23,100
better. 
So this is something that that 

2461
02:17:23,100 --> 02:17:26,900
keeps me driving and the drives 
me along, but of course not 

2462
02:17:26,900 --> 02:17:28,400
everyone would have this 
attitude. 

2463
02:17:28,400 --> 02:17:32,000
So yeah, you said during the 
next stage big difference. 

2464
02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:33,100
Yeah. 
You're in the next stage. 

2465
02:17:33,299 --> 02:17:35,799
For you, it's very normal. 
If you look at a 14 year old 

2466
02:17:35,799 --> 02:17:38,500
kid, right? 
Troubled, kill doesn't get good.

2467
02:17:38,500 --> 02:17:41,500
Grades plays video games. 
All day doesn't work. 

2468
02:17:41,500 --> 02:17:43,500
I have nothing. 
No ethics whatsoever. 

2469
02:17:43,600 --> 02:17:46,000
You ask you tell this guy? 
Hey, be the best version of you.

2470
02:17:47,100 --> 02:17:48,799
Beautiful. 
Better version of me. 

2471
02:17:48,799 --> 02:17:51,400
Will what version there is not 
know person. 

2472
02:17:51,400 --> 02:17:54,400
Yes, guidance. 
Yeah, it takes kinds to certain 

2473
02:17:54,400 --> 02:18:01,900
point, no, dad Nina with, we've 
almost reached the end and I 

2474
02:18:01,900 --> 02:18:07,299
have something for my guests 
that You will you will answer a 

2475
02:18:07,299 --> 02:18:09,100
question or I hope you will 
answer. 

2476
02:18:09,100 --> 02:18:14,400
But I'm sure you would that my 
last last guest asked and the 

2477
02:18:14,400 --> 02:18:15,799
guest who is asking the 
question. 

2478
02:18:15,799 --> 02:18:17,700
Never knows, who is the next one
on the show. 

2479
02:18:18,400 --> 02:18:22,400
So bulky this morning, prepare 
the question. 

2480
02:18:23,900 --> 02:18:30,500
And now I will read it to you. 
I'm curious on the answer and 

2481
02:18:30,700 --> 02:18:34,299
after that I would be happy if 
you could ask the next question 

2482
02:18:34,299 --> 02:18:39,100
for my next random guest. 
So this is poke his question. 

2483
02:18:40,600 --> 02:18:41,600
Adina. 
Have you met him? 

2484
02:18:41,600 --> 02:18:44,500
Do you know him poke dummies? 
What do you do? 

2485
02:18:44,500 --> 02:18:52,500
Exactly. he he, he He's almost 
the opposite of you. 

2486
02:18:52,900 --> 02:19:00,400
He's very silent on social media
and but he was training like not

2487
02:19:00,400 --> 02:19:05,700
not rain, good or bad. 
He is he was working for the 

2488
02:19:06,100 --> 02:19:09,700
have to read it Norwegian. 
People's Aid Training Center. 

2489
02:19:09,700 --> 02:19:13,200
He was training a lot of mine. 
Mine detection dogs, it's okay 

2490
02:19:13,400 --> 02:19:19,600
detection stuff. 
And yeah, they ship the dogs. 

2491
02:19:19,799 --> 02:19:24,799
Around the world. 
And now he, collaborated with 

2492
02:19:24,799 --> 02:19:27,700
Tobias. 
So, because Justin. 

2493
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:31,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it was
at the ICP thing and I can order

2494
02:19:31,600 --> 02:19:36,799
from Norway and this is from 
Sweden, a from a, from student. 

2495
02:19:37,000 --> 02:19:41,100
And bouquets from Bosnia, but, 
but they're both detection, 

2496
02:19:41,100 --> 02:19:42,799
right? 
Yeah. 

2497
02:19:42,799 --> 02:19:44,400
Mainly, yeah. 
Okay. 

2498
02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:46,500
Alright. 
So yeah, I'm curious about the 

2499
02:19:46,508 --> 02:19:54,300
question. 
So, I took notes, how many 

2500
02:19:54,300 --> 02:19:59,200
breeds did he in this case? 
Did you work through the years? 

2501
02:19:59,200 --> 02:20:04,200
And would you and you somehow 
already answered the questions, 

2502
02:20:04,600 --> 02:20:09,900
and would you put them in 
different categories for how to 

2503
02:20:09,900 --> 02:20:11,900
say, like a Malinois is not a 
Malinois? 

2504
02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:18,100
Do you have the ability to see 
or work Malinois or a labrador 

2505
02:20:18,100 --> 02:20:22,600
for a few minutes and realize, 
what the Helen's would be for 

2506
02:20:22,600 --> 02:20:26,800
this, dog. 
Have you gained such a gut 

2507
02:20:26,800 --> 02:20:29,900
feeling? 
Yeah, it's like or business? 

2508
02:20:29,900 --> 02:20:31,900
Yeah. 
So it says, this is what I do 

2509
02:20:31,900 --> 02:20:34,800
all the time. 
Is that is it when I travel I 

2510
02:20:34,800 --> 02:20:37,900
get this, you know, I have to 
make assessments and, and of 

2511
02:20:37,900 --> 02:20:40,800
course, you have to judge your 
assessment because, you know, 

2512
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:44,400
they're going to put you on the 
spot like because there's always

2513
02:20:44,400 --> 02:20:47,600
a limit to talking the talk at 
some point, they're going to 

2514
02:20:47,600 --> 02:20:51,100
have to make you walk the walk 
and and seminar that wait wait. 

2515
02:20:51,200 --> 02:20:54,600
Way to go in there and you have 
to walk every single walk 

2516
02:20:54,600 --> 02:20:58,700
because these people have bring 
multiple breeds crazy. 

2517
02:20:58,700 --> 02:21:00,300
Good. 
Bad worse. 

2518
02:21:01,200 --> 02:21:04,400
Nervous. 
Afraid bolt aggressive. 

2519
02:21:04,700 --> 02:21:07,400
It's you don't know. 
It's like the biggest surprise 

2520
02:21:07,400 --> 02:21:10,400
ever it, go to an event. 
You always have this, you know, 

2521
02:21:10,400 --> 02:21:12,200
imagination of how things are 
going to be. 

2522
02:21:12,200 --> 02:21:15,600
It's always different. 
So it's kind of cool actually. 

2523
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:17,600
So but yeah, how many breeds 
that I work? 

2524
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:21,400
Then if I would include all 
those people giving me Was 

2525
02:21:21,400 --> 02:21:25,400
Doc's. 
Countless, I don't know maybe 50

2526
02:21:25,900 --> 02:21:27,900
30, I don't know. 
Something like that. 

2527
02:21:27,900 --> 02:21:29,200
That I've seen so many breeds 
that. 

2528
02:21:29,200 --> 02:21:32,300
I, some of them, I can't even 
recall what they were. 

2529
02:21:32,400 --> 02:21:36,300
So, but the majority majority 
would be Shepherds, of course 

2530
02:21:36,300 --> 02:21:38,300
those are, the ones I've worked 
with most. 

2531
02:21:39,600 --> 02:21:42,700
If you were sent, if you were 
sent to an island, not knowing 

2532
02:21:43,000 --> 02:21:47,800
what expects you there, 
Loneliness or different tasks. 

2533
02:21:48,100 --> 02:21:51,100
What dog would would would 
breed, would you take with you? 

2534
02:21:52,900 --> 02:21:56,900
I was just I already had an evil
thought I was thinking about a 

2535
02:21:56,900 --> 02:22:01,500
very fat big dog, so if you're 
if I can't catch anything, maybe

2536
02:22:01,500 --> 02:22:05,600
I can, I can eat it. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2537
02:22:05,600 --> 02:22:09,700
And adversity I've been told 
will be introduced to yourself 

2538
02:22:09,700 --> 02:22:13,100
in ways you cannot imagine. 
So it look at the people that 

2539
02:22:13,100 --> 02:22:18,300
expire the endless You know, so 
many years ago, I am sure that I

2540
02:22:18,308 --> 02:22:22,000
did not expect to eat the guy 
that was sitting next to them on

2541
02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:23,200
the plane. 
Yeah. 

2542
02:22:23,200 --> 02:22:25,600
Right. 
Those are some of those things 

2543
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:34,600
so it but good question. 
So you will bring a Shar-Pei I 

2544
02:22:34,600 --> 02:22:36,200
don't know, maybe that's all 
skin. 

2545
02:22:36,500 --> 02:22:41,500
I don't know. 
That's cruel to say cuz like 

2546
02:22:41,500 --> 02:22:44,300
that would be definitely the 
last thing I'd probably die 

2547
02:22:44,300 --> 02:22:47,000
before I do it because I 
couldn't kill a chicken, to be 

2548
02:22:47,000 --> 02:22:49,300
honest. 
Yeah. 

2549
02:22:49,300 --> 02:22:54,500
So I just a joke actually. 
All right, Nina. 

2550
02:22:54,500 --> 02:22:58,700
So, not knowing whom I would be 
interviewing next. 

2551
02:22:59,500 --> 02:23:02,000
What's your question for the 
random guest? 

2552
02:23:03,800 --> 02:23:08,400
Oh my question would be if 
you're on the mic. 

2553
02:23:09,500 --> 02:23:11,600
And somebody's ask you 
questions. 

2554
02:23:11,600 --> 02:23:17,600
So somebody's interviewing you 
what message do you want to 

2555
02:23:18,000 --> 02:23:20,000
bring out? 
What is your what is it? 

2556
02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:23,700
The one thing that you want 
people to remember that you 

2557
02:23:23,700 --> 02:23:27,500
wanted to tell and I think in 
this case because I didn't, but 

2558
02:23:27,500 --> 02:23:29,900
I told you I want an unscripted 
talk with you. 

2559
02:23:29,900 --> 02:23:31,900
I don't want your questions. 
I don't want any of this. 

2560
02:23:32,400 --> 02:23:36,600
I just want to talk to you and I
think from this conversation, 

2561
02:23:36,700 --> 02:23:39,100
you understand, I stand for 
certain things. 

2562
02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:43,600
I believe in certain things and 
and I would ask the same thing 

2563
02:23:43,600 --> 02:23:46,200
as like what do you stand for 
what you believe and what is the

2564
02:23:46,200 --> 02:23:49,400
message you want to bring to 
the, the dog trainers out there 

2565
02:23:49,400 --> 02:23:52,900
that have invested their time 
and listening to you? 

2566
02:23:53,900 --> 02:23:59,500
That would be my question. 
Great question and I'm already 

2567
02:23:59,500 --> 02:24:01,800
curious on the answer. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2568
02:24:01,800 --> 02:24:04,800
Let me know who's next. 
Yes, for sure. 

2569
02:24:04,808 --> 02:24:05,900
For sure. 
I will let you know. 

2570
02:24:06,100 --> 02:24:10,700
So since I'm doing this podcast 
in English and German, if it's 

2571
02:24:10,700 --> 02:24:14,200
in German answer, I will 
translate it to you but I will 

2572
02:24:14,200 --> 02:24:16,000
let you know for sure. 
If it's English, I will just 

2573
02:24:16,000 --> 02:24:21,700
send you the link of the show. 
You know, we've reached the end 

2574
02:24:22,100 --> 02:24:26,400
anything else to add. 
How can people reach out to You.

2575
02:24:26,400 --> 02:24:31,400
How can they, what would be the 
first step to enter your online 

2576
02:24:31,400 --> 02:24:33,600
training program? 
What do you recommend what to 

2577
02:24:33,600 --> 02:24:36,500
start with Paul? 
I would always say don't you 

2578
02:24:36,500 --> 02:24:38,400
step into something that you 
don't know. 

2579
02:24:38,500 --> 02:24:41,800
So I would say just look us up. 
Well it's always the same name, 

2580
02:24:42,300 --> 02:24:47,500
YouTube, Facebook or even the 
website STS canine Google it ICS

2581
02:24:47,500 --> 02:24:49,500
Gainer.com if you want to see 
the website. 

2582
02:24:49,500 --> 02:24:52,300
But if you just want to follow 
us first and then, see what 

2583
02:24:52,300 --> 02:24:55,200
we're about to see what we do or
see the previous videos. 

2584
02:24:55,200 --> 02:24:57,300
YouTube USGS. 
K9, it's all going to be the 

2585
02:24:57,300 --> 02:25:01,000
same and you'll see our students
the way we work with them. 

2586
02:25:01,000 --> 02:25:04,000
The energy we have. 
So and if you're attracted to 

2587
02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:07,100
this, yeah, you can always, DM 
has because I like personal 

2588
02:25:07,100 --> 02:25:09,000
contacts. 
Also, one of those things I like

2589
02:25:09,000 --> 02:25:13,000
people to reach out and ask 
questions before they just, you 

2590
02:25:13,000 --> 02:25:13,600
know. 
Wow. 

2591
02:25:13,700 --> 02:25:16,800
Let me just do this. 
I like matchmaking also, 

2592
02:25:16,800 --> 02:25:21,600
especially like if it's in a 
coaching role so you can ask us 

2593
02:25:21,600 --> 02:25:23,800
anything. 
Of course, you know, there's 

2594
02:25:23,800 --> 02:25:25,900
limits of what we can answer if 
tomorrow. 

2595
02:25:26,300 --> 02:25:27,700
And people would ask me a 
question. 

2596
02:25:27,900 --> 02:25:29,900
It's that would be impossible to
answer. 

2597
02:25:30,300 --> 02:25:34,200
But yeah, you know, we try to 
answer as much as possible so I 

2598
02:25:34,208 --> 02:25:36,000
would say yeah, just check it 
out. 

2599
02:25:36,000 --> 02:25:38,800
See what you like if you're 
attracted to it. 

2600
02:25:39,400 --> 02:25:41,500
Yeah. 
You can find this for coaching 

2601
02:25:41,500 --> 02:25:47,600
training and instructions no 
problem because we've been going

2602
02:25:47,600 --> 02:25:50,600
through this a long time seeing 
how we can get the best possible

2603
02:25:50,600 --> 02:25:55,300
results and it's working. 
I have many, many students still

2604
02:25:56,600 --> 02:26:00,200
In the, in the queue to be on 
the spotlights of there are 

2605
02:26:00,200 --> 02:26:02,900
getting better. 
So if I look at myself and I'm 

2606
02:26:03,500 --> 02:26:05,400
looking back, how much time I 
need it? 

2607
02:26:05,400 --> 02:26:10,200
I think a no I couldn't do this 
in six months, so, well that 

2608
02:26:10,200 --> 02:26:14,100
means it's working. 
Obviously, there was something 

2609
02:26:14,100 --> 02:26:17,600
that one of my first trainers 
told me, she wants us to become 

2610
02:26:18,400 --> 02:26:22,900
faster better than she is now 
and I thought that's inspiring 

2611
02:26:23,200 --> 02:26:26,100
and and very humble and she 
didn't try to hide. 

2612
02:26:26,200 --> 02:26:29,200
I'd her experience in her 
knowledge is they just pass it 

2613
02:26:29,208 --> 02:26:33,000
on and a. 
Yeah, thank you for sharing this

2614
02:26:33,100 --> 02:26:36,300
with us. 
Thanks for spending almost two 

2615
02:26:36,300 --> 02:26:42,300
and a half hours with with the 
random guy from Austria, sharing

2616
02:26:42,300 --> 02:26:47,300
your thoughts, your standpoints?
Yeah, it was a blast and yeah, 

2617
02:26:47,300 --> 02:26:52,600
getting to know to you, a little
little definitely was, was a 

2618
02:26:52,608 --> 02:26:53,800
great thing to do. 
So. 

2619
02:26:54,200 --> 02:26:55,700
Thank you. 
Thank you for having me. 

2620
02:26:55,700 --> 02:26:59,400
Thank You for, you know, giving 
this conversation a platform. 

2621
02:26:59,800 --> 02:27:03,800
So yeah, I'm always here if you 
need me, you want to talk again.

2622
02:27:03,900 --> 02:27:08,600
So for sure, for sure, if you 
find the time, we have a lot of 

2623
02:27:08,600 --> 02:27:10,200
topics that we could. 
Yeah. 

2624
02:27:10,200 --> 02:27:15,000
And oh, yeah, for sure. 
And yeah, maybe maybe sooner, or

2625
02:27:15,008 --> 02:27:19,500
later we meet somewhere? 
I would love to do so and I will

2626
02:27:19,500 --> 02:27:23,000
put your Links of your social 
media of your home page Etc, in 

2627
02:27:23,000 --> 02:27:26,800
the show notes. 
So guys, listening If you like 

2628
02:27:26,800 --> 02:27:32,300
the show, please let us know and
send us a comment on the device 

2629
02:27:32,300 --> 02:27:35,300
that you're using to listen to 
our podcast, to our show. 

2630
02:27:35,300 --> 02:27:40,500
Please hit the Subscribe button 
for not missing any episode. 

2631
02:27:40,600 --> 02:27:45,200
Follow us Kuno Tech on social 
media, as well as, as this 

2632
02:27:45,800 --> 02:27:50,300
canine, even though they already
have certainly more followers 

2633
02:27:50,300 --> 02:27:54,500
and also more than 100,000. 
That's impressive man. 

2634
02:27:55,200 --> 02:28:00,100
So All right, you know I hope 
you're having a good evening and

2635
02:28:01,100 --> 02:28:04,700
welcome you to thank you for the
invitation there and I'll talk 

2636
02:28:04,700 --> 02:28:07,700
to you soon perhaps for sure. 
Alright. 

2637
02:28:07,700 --> 02:28:09,800
And I'll buy buy buy