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Once in a lifetime. All right, pastors.
Yeah, yeah, Boy, it takes a fucking long time, right?
Yeah, it's a long intro. Ready.
Yeah.
My name. Is Jim.
That's enough of that. Chicks with beepers, who could
forget them? Yeah.
You know what it you know what it is?
New creamy. New creamy EM edition.
I'm, I'm, I'm Jared. You're Mike.
We are, we are talking about, we're talking about the man, the
the God of rap metal. The.
Kid Rock. He's he's, he's just a boy.
He's. Just he's just a boy who looks
like he's been, you know, sleeping in a pack of Marlboros
for the last, like, 6. Months, Dude, I, I saw a photo
of him and somebody was making fun of it.
If it's like, oh, this is the best you can get for your
halftime shows, This washed up 55 year old guy.
And my first thought was like, he's only 55.
Jeez, that guy's. That guy's lived a lot of life,
man. Yeah, he, he, he looks very like
leather, like he's got his, his, his skin looks leathery.
Yeah, it's been, it's been almost a, a full week since the
Super Bowl, which we we debated here in the posting through a
newsroom about whether we should cover it still.
But I do think, Jared, that we we invented the coverage on this
to a degree in the sense that we covered the MAGA butt rock
phenomenon a while back. We picked it up right away the
second that and I'm going to lay out a timeline for this just to
recap everybody in a second, But like the second Jack Posobik was
like he thinks maybe we should do a Super Bowl and I who knows,
maybe Creed will play. We were on that shit.
We. We.
We gave our audition tape even you know people have been here
with us for a little bit. Will remember the butt rock song
with. Yes, our our subscriber base has
grown substantially since then, but like all the real heads have
been from the beginning out, the new people are heads too.
But the the people who are there that they know that we were on
top of the Super Bowl story a long time ago.
And so they did it. It was like, you know, they did
it like the moon landing, like they made it happen.
We know you also for people who are following that, then we know
that they wanted Creed was the main thing that they did they
that Jack wanted Creed. That was like, yeah, so bad
dude. They want to Crete so bad.
Yeah, and and they and I. Remember right away we were
like, they're not getting Creed, dude.
They're not. Just Creed's like, wait a
second, I don't know if I want to do this to myself.
Yeah, they did it. And I, I, I, I do think rather
than just like, punt the story and say, oh, it's old now.
It's been like almost a week. I actually think that the
story's gotten better since. Yeah, yeah.
Because, because, because, because if we had covered it,
like if we just like done something for the Monday episode
instead of Steven Crowder, for example, we wouldn't have gotten
the just the layers of takes. It's almost like, you know, when
you hear like a Philip Glass song, like change key and like
start to break down, like the song, like composition, you
know, it's like that. It's like now it's like
ascending. It's like it's kind of this new
thing over rolling over the course of days.
And I think it is very revealing of how this sort of racist right
operates, what they're capable of, what they want to do.
And also to some extent, there are tremendous limitations.
So there there's both a positive and a negative take away here.
And I think we'll get to that later.
But I'm glad that we're we're we're covered in detail.
Yeah, we're going to be staying on this story for the next year
because they've already, they've already promised that they're
going to do it again next year. And I don't know if that's a
good idea, but I'll talk about that in a second.
I just want to remind everybody how we got to the point where
Turning Point USA hosted an alternative halftime show that
aired against the Super Bowl of all things.
So September 28th last year. The NFL, Apple Music and Jay-Z
Rock Nation, those are the entities that put together the
halftime show. During the Super Bowl.
They announced that Bad Bunny would headline Super Bowl 60s
halftime show. This was notable on a few
fronts. 1 Bad Bunny is the biggest music artist in the
world right now. But what stuck with MAGA was the
fact that Bad Bunny is not white.
He's an outspoken advocate for minority communities and perhaps
what stuck with most of their bass.
He performs his music in Spanish.
He also dressed in drag like once or twice.
Yeah. Which is true of Steven Crowder.
But but you know, they, you know, they, they really took
offense to that because I think Bad Bunny looked good in it.
Yeah, yeah. So I mean, immediately, as soon
as this was announced, mega media like started ginning up
outrage. This was ridiculous.
This was crazy. Like, how could they do this?
It's UN American, Despite the fact that Bad Bunny is Puerto
Rican. Puerto Rico is AUS territory,
right? But he's not white, right?
That's this. That's the not so subtle subtext
of calling it UN American the way I see it.
Yeah, there's also the context of, you know, growing anger over
Trump's immigration policies, which have which were, as we've
discussed many times on the show, you know, superficially
very popular, I think you can say certainly in the run up to
the to the election in 2024 November and and then
afterwards, but it has been a steady decline afterwards.
And then you have this guy who is sort of outspoken about
against against ICE we and then as as it built towards the
actual thing. And I know, I know you're guy.
We we're going to go to that. Like he his association with
anti ice rhetoric became bigger and bigger.
I think in the culture people get more familiar with it.
Yeah, I also just want to throw in some context I think is
really relevant to why Bad Bunny was booked, aside from the fact
he is the biggest * in the world.
The top streaming artist of last year?
Yeah, I. Huge.
I mean almost impossible to overstate how big of a deal he
is. The NFL, like a lot of American
sports enterprises, whatever you want to call it, is trying to
break into new markets. They're trying to take the sport
international. NASCAR's doing the same thing.
They've been looking at entities like the PGA getting pressure
from, you know, foreign backed competitors.
Formula One, for example, has been doing stuff in the US
NASCAR is not happy about that. They want to go international.
The NFL is kind of doing the same thing.
So having a internationally renowned star in the kind of
markets they're looking at, you know, trying to expand into
Latin America and that sort of thing makes total and complete
sense. So anyway, that's September
28th. September 29th, our boy Jack
Posobik starts floating out the idea that maybe TPUSA would put
together an alternative halftime show at the one tweet he made on
September 29th said sure. Would be a shame if TPUSA hosted
a counter Super Bowl halftime show with Creed and with.
Creed, by the way. Yeah, Mike, do you want to
explain Jack Pozobic's infatuation with Creed?
So like if anybody knows how to do like an advanced search on X,
it's not difficult. You just sort of the advanced
search thing and then you type at Jack Pozobic and then you do
a search term and you heard Creed and you may like it's a
little janky there. So you may have to just click on
like whatever it is most recent or whatever it is in order to
get the full list of some and just go through it and just see
how many times this motherfucker has tweeted about Creed.
He is obsessed with this extraordinarily bad band.
I mean, and when I say they're bad, I mean God bless them.
You know, Creed didn't show up at this thing.
You know, the, the whatever they are is Christian butt rock.
They the the cover for like that Clay Human Clay album is
probably the most cringe album cover I've ever seen.
But but Creed didn't ask to be born.
They just lived the life they were given.
Yeah, they're. Just like exactly so so.
But he's he's obsessed. He goes to see Creed in concert
when they came back to do a little thing.
He repeatedly refers to Creed as like the greatest halftime show
ever. It's often mistaken in on the
Internet that Creed had a halftime show in the Super Bowl.
They never did. They was just like a Dallas
Cowboys game. It was.
It was one of the two Thanksgiving games in 2001.
One of the two. Daytime Thanksgiving is 2001.
I like that you knew that off the top of your head.
Yeah, well, I, I, I, you know, hey, look, this, you know, this,
he was there. There's some research folks
here, the Jack Pacific and basically like the the reason
why people are nostalgic for the Creed halftime show, other than
the fact that they are kind of right wing coated or Christian.
It is certainly a Christian group.
Is Scott Stapp or whatever his name is, was wearing a Cowboy's
jersey and was like really going at it with the mic, like really
singing his butt rock songs with a lot of enthusiasm.
It seemed very, you know, wholesome football, like exactly
the way these guys imagine football should be.
You know I should know Dallas Cowboys are pretty right wing
coated team as well. So the whole thing was a
perfect. Package I'm a a lifelong Cowboys
fan and that is a hard fucking team to root for most of the
time. Most of the time what people are
like, oh do you like sports? I'm just like, no.
Yeah, I mean, it's a, it's not St.
Louis Cardinals, the Dallas Cowboys.
Dude, it's it's not easy. Yeah, it's not like a, a slow
drip of poison like being a Jets fan, but the.
Yeah, that's basically where it came from.
And he was I, I, you know, we have to imagine that behind the
scenes he was desperately courting Creed and trying to get
it like, I'm your #1 fan and would you please play the, like,
an alternative Super Bowl? And I'm sure that Creed is
looking at this and saying, like, you know, we have to take
into account we have some fans who are not like, crazy
cultists, right? Like, we probably have some.
We don't want to be pigeonholed into this.
Any band that could make some money outside of this, I think
Jared would be reluctant.