Hello guys, welcome to a new episode of Suit Yourself
podcast. Yeah, a new setup, new quality,
and it's ice cream department. Exactly.
Your new free ice cream department is here.
This is the the manager speaking.
This is my best salesperson. It's so funny because you know,
guys, it's been a while and it's actually summer in in Stockholm.
I was at in Oslo. It's quite close to this weather
actually. It's super warm.
But today it's a great weather to have Siyusaka with.
I think we can have this a bit lower.
Yeah, like this. Nice.
Yeah, New, new setup, new US. Yeah, how guys tell us, how do
you like the new setup? Because we we invested in some
sea stands, some new lamps and, and also just reorganise the
studio. So let us know in the comments
how how do you like it. I think it looks a bit more
genuine. It's a bit easier to discuss
together. Also to be in front of one
another. Well, I mean, we are very happy
about it, but you guys can tell us.
Yeah, and the guys remember to follow us and comment.
And actually one of our viewers and listeners wrote to us and he
will be attending Pity Woman. So guys, June, we will be there
from the 15th to 19th. You will be a bit longer.
Yeah. So if you're going to be in
Fortez at the bus, so in Florence, just meet us.
Yeah. We can share some thoughts about
about women's wear. Yeah, it's always a lot of fun
to meet you guys and discuss about you and see your vision
from the other side. It's we always keen to connect
with you and you know how we are.
We are not stiff. So that's what this podcast is
all about, is also connecting with people.
And also you're a bit stiffer today than me.
We both have. Because I'm the manager.
The same, the same. The same series soccer, but not
the same, actually. But yeah, we need to tell.
It's a special episode, so. It's a special episode.
The episode is in collaboration with Hockerty, a brand that in a
very good price, you can get yourself a make to measure suit.
Yeah. So we had the very nice
opportunity to collaborate with them and the idea for us was to
try and they have been very nice with us because they they let us
be independent and really share our knowledge.
You know guys that we are usually working with the very
high end brand and we are always I'm going to talk very genuinely
about the quality, but we also wanted to show that it is
possible to because you can receive some comments actually
of people explaining to you. Yeah, it's very it's for rich
people. It's rich people to measure.
Yeah, exactly make to measure. But just dressing up, it is very
expensive, but. But also also one thing that you
know, Hockerty, they don't only have suits.
Yeah, absolutely, and we will. Show something that you can
actually order. This is the first episode.
We have 4 episodes with Hockerty and about Hockerty.
This one episode is about Sucker Suit.
Absolutely. But just to round up, and that's
what we're going to try to to prove and to explain, it is
actually possible to dress up in a nice way with things that are
not so expensive. Of course, it's an entrance
level. So there are things that you can
expect and things that you cannot expect, but it's still
good quality enough that we are wearing it and we are happy to
wear it and. We are looking at our.
Experience. Yeah, absolutely.
Well, for sure they're expecting ice creams I guess, but.
Yeah, it's coming. It's coming, guys.
It's coming. No parts yet.
Yeah, it's coming. Parts are.
Coming but guys OK, but what's your soccer is even.
It's quite an interesting fabric actually, because.
Sorry, I forgot we going to share our our thoughts about
Hockerty and in the next episodes.
This episode will be about Sir soccer, but also that you can
really customize those suits and sitting at home.
You don't need to go somewhere. So when you're shy, when you
think that those make to measure boutiques are just for rich
people, people that know everything.
In Poland, we we say that somebody that knows everything
about something. It's not that you have it in the
in your little finger, but you have it, you ate your teeth on
it. So yeah, funny, but you can do
it at home. Yeah, because a lot of us, and
frankly I was one of these, I was a geek myself, so I was
geeking online on the forums and I was just getting my knowledge,
especially as a younger guy online, and I was not feeling
super comfortable to just go outside and you needed.
To do the research, to go to the store so you're not.
Yeah, and not a newbie and by by 100%.
I would rather do everything online, yeah, from home and just
say, oh, I want it like this and then never go there.
Because you know, a lot of a lot of guys in those made to measure
Italy, yes, they just want to sell you things.
Exactly. And it feels like it's easier
to, it's easier to say, OK, I want this and I want that and
then. Yeah, but it's fine.
The the, I mean the, the website is very easy to use.
You measure yourself and even if you have some extra adjustments
like you got real, don't spoil them.
But I got some fancy stuff. Not in the hole, but I I forgot
to write about it so. We we can talk about it in the
in the dedicated episode, I made you jealous about my sweet, but
let's. Talk.
My mind is a bit more laid back. Yeah, Yeah.
But yours is very nice, actually.
It's just. But that's cool.
We're going to talk about CS sucker.
And actually just visually speaking, we can see that.
All right, CS sucker, traditionally this is those
white and light blue stripes. So this is.
What is super common in the more than that?
That's the common. You have a smaller stripes.
Exactly. I have the smaller ones, you
have the bigger ones and. Why?
Well, I'm because I have nothing to compensate for.
Because because just just guys, we were talking about it, I
think in few episodes that if you're wider, if you have more,
more muscular posture than its proportions, then then you need
to have. You don't need to have, but
it's. It's nice to have maybe.
Actually I'm I'm finishing dating so I I've lost a lot of
kills. I don't know if you can tell I'm
about to disappear, but yeah. So before going in the story and
everything, we can just talk about the, yeah, the visual
appearance. And right away, Mihar decided to
go for this one because it's more proportionate, it goes
better with your physical structure.
Also, I think that my fabric is a bit thinner.
Feels a bit more laid back. In the.
Way it drapes softer, yeah. It looks more like pyjamas.
That's what I thought when you were changing you were he was
working on and I thought he was in pyjamas.
Yeah, but you know, with Sirsaki you can go, you can look very
good, but you can also go a bit wrong.
Then it's a bit too much to I, I guess I, I'm not afraid of being
too much like I have my collar on, on the lapels of the, of the
shirt. The shirt is also almost like
transparent. White shoes, white socks, so.
Yeah, and I was supposed to. I forgot my white socks so you
will excuse me and people will comment.
Maybe some will say it's too feminine to wear it without
socks, but you I've heard that before.
I would do it maybe without the without a tie and so.
It was unintentional. But it's a summer suit.
It is and it's a more, it's much more laid back piece.
The idea is that you shouldn't be so afraid to move around it.
Of course it's a light colour, but you will get stained in its
life, you know, so it's fine. And you don't need to iron it.
No, exactly. It's that's the thing because a
lot of people they, they, they buy linen and they want to iron
it and you know, even brands they are selling me.
Linen super clean. AI cleaned.
It doesn't. That's not even nice.
I mean, that's the problem. It needs to live with you and
I'm not afraid of has some creases.
I'm not afraid of making it a bit dirty.
People, you should, I mean, yeah, maybe we're used and maybe
we are less. We care less about the the
impression of people or or their opinion about us because
honestly, when I wear a suit, I can wear a tuxedo, can wear
anything. I don't feel like I'm wearing
something so I don't really care but.
Also, it's not a business suit. It's not a suit that you're
going to work. But yeah, a lot of American
presidents ignore it. But in America, occasions.
Exactly. But in America, this is a fabric
that is much more popular in America nowadays.
In Europe it's quite rare to see.
Yeah, and it started in Persia. Exactly.
Yeah, let's go back to the origins of time you don't have.
We just need the, we need the sound ball like.
Yeah, you know, Yeah, exactly. Wait, I don't even know which
sound is it right now. Should have like stamps on it.
This one is the fart. This one we don't have the fart.
Yeah, sorry. So you know it comes from a
Persian sheer or shakar, which means milk and sugar.
Milk and sugar, exactly. So me actually, I, I, but that's
something that you told me. I knew it was coming from the
British colonial empire. When they met those British.
It always comes from this. So I knew it was British from
the start, but actually it's Persian from the beginning.
And then it moved to India and that's where the English
actually discovered this fabric. And basically the English were
coming with their very stiff or to warm fabric.
Even the linen was too warm for there.
And they discovered those fabrics that were much lighter.
It's like the Gurkha trousers, for example.
It's another type of trousers that they they took from there.
But so they just adapted the local fabrics with their their
own suit, their own uniforms, and they use it because it's
much seener, much lighter and the the little.
The fabric is rough, exactly. So that's why it's a contrast
between those colours, milk and sugar.
But roughness of the of the material exactly, Yeah.
Tell us about the of the. So you have one stripe that is
quite clean and the other one that is a bit wrinkly.
So that's why the idea there is that not only to thin fabric so
it's breathable, but also by adding volume you will add more
space for air to flow. Yeah, it's because one of the
one of the strings and the strings is more tense.
Exactly. So there's more tension in one
of the strings than the other ones.
So they shrink. I think it's when they are, they
just want them. So they shrink.
And then you have like this like a bit pocket.
Yeah, pocket. Exactly.
Pocket type of rough appearance, and that's why it's supposed to
breathe a bit better. But you know what is was it
popular as bet, bet, bet clothes in in in France, for example?
Yeah. Yeah, no, yeah.
But it yeah, it it could now actually.
Because in in in 19 in 2000 in Poland it was popular to have
bet clothes. Made of.
Yeah, of Suisacre and and in Poland it's called Cora.
OK, OK. And Cora also, you know, we have
a tree and you know, the, the tree has this, you know, Cora
like the, the, the rough. The cork, Yeah.
OK. Yeah.
Nice, yeah. So it looks like it.
Exactly. And talking about this actually,
so we have a very classic colour that might be a bit more
difficult to wear. But my point of earlier was to
say you shouldn't care too much about what people think about
what you wear, to be honest. But if you did, it of course
exists in many other colours. You can have it in midnight
blue, you can have it in green or so that can be nice or tall
it. Can be just one colour.
Just just plain plain colour without those stripes.
Yeah. And then it makes it maybe
easier to wear in all the circumstances.
And it can. Look a bit formal, even.
Exactly. So me, I'm wearing it in a bit
more formal than I'm used to in suits.
So I have like a shoulder that is a bit more pronounced, which
I think is quite cool. It it gives also this bit.
Yeah, like a formal, casual American way of doing it, which
I I. Think Ronald Dragon loved the
serious soccer? That's my JFK look, I guess.
Also JFK. Exactly.
Hopefully I don't end up like any of them.
But yeah, also we wanted to show you guys that you can wear it
with a tie, but you can also wear it more Miami Vice like me.
That's exactly what we wanted to show, and we all planned it
carefully in advance. Not at all.
We were not. We were.
We are. We are actually, for some reason
we're very good at not really planning what you and I are
wearing, but it's always matching in a good way.
You know, it's showing a different perspective on the
scene or I mean, that's. That's the thing.
That's the connection after. We ate the teeth on the
menswear, so that's why we have a podcast.
Exactly. I mean, guys, everyone can have
a podcast. So it's not that.
It's not that. Everyone has podcast I think.
That's not that hard. It's not that hard.
I actually borrowed some microphones for a girl that was
in Swedish Love is Blind yesterday, so I borrowed her a
microphone so maybe I can help her with the recording.
But that's, that's funny. But that's a job, I would say,
because honestly, you had this experience before.
That's an experience I gained by doing it with you.
But I can really tell the difference from the start, from
my first episodes. And now both of us have evolved
and and hopefully made it better.
I hope. Yeah.
Let us know guys what what you feel.
But I mean. It's a journey.
A lot of a lot of people have their own podcast and it's still
the same. It's just audio.
No, no video. Yeah, but that's also because
our spirit and and very much yours in that in that regard is
we want to strive to always do better.
We always want to improve. We and you're always also super
excited to change things and to you have been talking about the
setup for weeks. Yeah, because because I about
those C stands, you guys, you cannot see them.
And that's the point. Yeah, but OK, I'm nerdy about
it, but also let's be nerdy about those those suits.
So sorry, guys. So, so, so guys, it's just so
nice to wear serious soccer. But also it was just so, so easy
to order it. You have a few serious soccer
fabrics and also at Hockerty you have a lot of fabrics, but it's
not too many. No, exactly.
It's also crazy. Yeah, absolutely.
Because. When you're new, you don't want
to have too much of the choice. You need to have some choice.
But you know a lot of brands, they can do this and that and
it's very easy to go bonkers. You then then you order a suit
that you will never wear. Exactly.
But because it will look like, I don't know, Prince of Persia,
kind of. Costume, Costume.
Maybe we, we are as a costume, but you know, it's also fun.
Menswear is fun. So you can order some, some nice
stuff. And at Hockerty, for example,
it's not that expensive that you need to, you need to pay €2000
for some, some kind of suit. I think it's it can it can even
start from 200. EUR 300 we exactly and we will
of course talk more about it on on the next episode.
But I think that actually these type of suits are excellent if
you are on a budget, if you are figuring out yourself.
Also if you are not sure of if this fabric is going to suit me,
if I can really go for it for so that maybe you were less than
another one. So we're going to break the
bank. Exactly.
So it's a very good way of testing.
I would say also and, and yeah, overall if you are starting in
this journey, so it's a mix of you're on the budget and also
you're not sure of what is working for you, then I would
say it's a very, very good entrance point.
But I think that's something we can develop a bit bit later on
on the second episode. But to go back on the on the CS
soccer fabric and I think it's something that we can give to
every summer fabric. And also guys, you need to
understand that we're living in Scandinavia.
So here it's been a long winter. So as soon as the sun appears.
Yeah, May, May 2nd, we're recording this episode and it's
actually the second day. Actually, summer started
yesterday. Oh, like officially.
No, I mean the weather was nice. That's actually that's actually
you could wear yesterday T-shirt.
And yeah, today it was up to 25 in the sun.
That's amazing. And, you know, I think that
there's something that is amazing with seasons.
It's like things are changing. And I mean, you go out, you take
your first beer outside with your friends, that counts.
You know that's the first beer of the year in the Nissan and
when you. In in Stockholm it can be
Rossea. You know, yeah, of course.
You know, I grew up in the house where they invented Rosie.
Oh, really? And that's what's written on the
sign, at least. But and also certain fabrics.
So this is the first time of the year after this long darkness or
cold or whatever, where you can put your linen and where you can
put your sesacre. And then if you're special.
White shoes? Exactly, a lot of people are
just so confused what to wear. I see people in the down jacket.
It's difficult to know what to wear actually, because it's very
warm in the middle of the day, it's a bit fresh.
But that's nice that you can actually layer.
Yeah, exactly. So that's that's the strength of
this period of time and that's how you can adapt.
It's layering basically or having certain fabrics that
adjust to this weather. So if you have like high twisted
walls that are more open and more breathable, or if you have
blends like wool, silk and linen, those type of fabrics
will be more adaptive along the day.
So you can keep it on your shoulders and still it's not
going to be too warm, it's not going.
To be I would say that usually cotton is pretty warm, but CS
soccer is not. No, exactly.
That's really the strength of CS soccer for that.
But. You still need to.
You cannot wash it in your washing machine.
You cannot wash it. You cannot iron it.
You need to accept this wrinkle. You know you need to.
That's the beauty with it. That's make it makes it a bit
more laid back also, so less stiff and probably easier to
wear. Because a lot of some people
think that suits are just stiff, but you can see that you can be
ice cream guy. Exactly.
Would you buy ice cream from us guys?
Yeah. Your whole whole whole truck.
But. But The thing is that thing is
that it can as, as we said a lot of as we said that a lot of US
presidents were serious soccer and it's tradition there and
it's something that you can wear during summer on for example, I
don't know, go for some for some more laid back occasions.
Yeah, and then you're. But it's still a suit.
Me. It reminds me also of those a
beautiful picture because these type of colors, they are not
new. It's the Csacre that is new.
But wearing stripes blue and white is not new.
It's been done for 100 years and you can still see the paintings
of. The shirts right now.
Exactly right now, Sir, but you can see like paintings of, I
don't know, Hanoi or Mane all the, the, the painters from that
era. And when they were painting
breakfast on the on the grass, you could see the people with
their Kanoatier, the the straw art and, and with these type of
colours already. And that's that's very.
Beautiful. I'm waiting for someone to come
and that it's Auschwitz. Oh fuck yeah.
Because. This guy will be banned.
In, in, in in Poland when I wore some.
Striped. Shirts, it's always.
The pyjamas. Yeah, exactly.
It's no the you know in the. Yeah, yeah, Pajamas of
Auschwitz. I know because some people were
calling that pajamas. I mean, they were almost wearing
pajamas, but yeah, no, that's not it.
That would be very far fetched combination I would say.
How many? How many people at your work,
for example, ordered seersucker suit?
Not so many. So actually we have on the
collection this year Olive Green CS Soccer and I ordered it.
It's it's one colour. Yeah, one colour, olive green
so. But otherwise I don't think
anyone at work would maybe dare to.
It's not there because they're daring, but it's more that it
would be their style. And me, I I'm more adventurous.
I. Never had CS soccer before.
No, not before. I had a Sisaka last two years
ago from Hockerty actually. Yeah, it was the same, just
green. But yeah.
Yeah, it was very nice actually. It, it looked really cool and I
love it with some kind of bandana here, open shirt loafers
without socks, of course, in the in the summer, but I just needed
to sell it because I I became too big.
Too big? Yeah.
But that's, that's also the, the
thing I would say with the, that's what we mentioned, you
can try on different things with OCOTY.
And when you have, when you're a bit on a, on a budget like this,
it could be super interesting to try colours that are a bit
outside of your comfort zone usually.
And also fabrics that are they don't, you don't need to put so
much money to have something that is good when it comes to
cotton and linen. So for these prices, you already
have something that is quite fine.
I mean, this fabric is quite. Nice.
It's it's a no name fabric I think, but they also have a
premium fabrics. Yeah, absolutely.
They are from Weaver actually from actual weavers.
Those are can be slightly pricier, but it's still very,
very nicely priced. Also, The thing is that at the
Hockerty you can order shoes, you can order accessories, you
can order polo shirts, Henleys. I have one Henley that we'll
we'll show with later. And shoes, for example, loafers,
you can order, each part of the shoe can be in different
colours. So you can order like black and
white loafers. It's pretty cool if you if you
want to have something that sticks out and a lot of guys if
you want to have some some kind of inspiration.
Hockerty will be at Pity Womo and we will attend the the party
and the the idea is to make some interviews there and show the
outfits how people can wear. It's about fun.
Yeah, guys, pity Warmer is going to be a blast this year.
I mean, we always say that, but it's true.
This year we have like list like this of things to create you.
It's going to be fun to follow us on the socials.
Already prepared and but I don't know if if it's have you seen
because it comes from UK colonies.
Yeah. Is it the same the same as as
popular as in the United States in the UKI don't think.
So I don't think so either. I think it it feels a bit old
school for us, it feels a bit weird and also our relationship
to those time and colonies included makes it not so.
Popular but it's like British, they had so many colonies took
spices and they still have the plain food and.
OK, sorry. And still the food is bad.
What's going on there? But yeah, for us, we identify
that much more as American because those are the Americans
that styled it and. Also more.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's really with things
like this, because we know that we have the English style, we
have the Italian style. For most people, it's a bit more
advanced and a bit more difficult to identify.
The French style, for example, but it exists and you have the
American style and you say, yeah, Americans, they don't have
as much culture and refinement as they have those sax.
Suits, we can actually cover it in one episode.
Exactly, but there is an American style and it includes
sax suit and it it also includes this the CS soccer are very
popular in America and. Button down shirts as well.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Now they they have actually
participated. From UK then they just.
It always comes from us. It's way introduced.
The the Americans are calling to joke around England older colony
also. So yeah, yeah, it's everything
is coming from from Europe at some point even in America, but
sometimes many cultural things from Europe and very diverse
things in Europe actually were implemented and lost some in a
very different way in America. For example, the very the Cobo
shots that are super American with all the the roses and the
the black and white also super typical.
This is actually coming from Central Europe, Ukraine and so
on. And those were Ukrainian
patterns that and the colours of Ukraine patterns that was taken
in the 1st place to use this black and red colours on some
shirts. So.
It might be even some Polish heritage because I, I remember
because, yeah, I think Ukraine is pretty, pretty young as a
country. And part of Ukraine was Poland.
And I know that it was, it was a cultural thing to decorate with
paintings, houses. Yeah, women, women were doing
that. And it's in Ukraine.
I think it comes actually from Poland, but I'm not sure.
Because. There there was also a town in
Poland that women were doing that.
Because I'm in those culture, we're very close for now.
So it was different expression of it.
And again, I can source what I'm talking about, but obviously we
could do a full episode on, on, on, in, on those shirts, the
Cobo shirts. And of course, it's coming
actually from the Indian American and most South America
culture from the start. I know about that.
So I'm not saying that it's an inquiry Indian shirt that came
in America. I'm not saying that it's, I'm
just talking about. American America was born with
immigrants. Yeah, yeah.
And it's a very young country that like not even 300 years
old. So it's a very young country.
So a lot of things from Europe blossom there in a very
different way. And this is one of them actually
something that didn't really stick in Europe or became a bit
old fashioned. It's still blossoming there and
it's quite popular and and I must say they are right.
It's quite cool. I mean, I'm feeling nice.
I mean, from a certain distance, it just looks like a blue suit,
light blue exactly, which is a nice color.
I mean, it's summer your be. Fresh yours is more formal, I
would say mine it's still a bit. Yeah, a bit more relaxed, but I
mean that's, I mean, I'm going to break it down.
I'm going to wear it. It's going to round up, it's
going to adjust my body. The crease is not going to stay.
And that's what you should enjoy.
We were talking about this. I had the customer once which
ordered the full suit in raw silk, which is a fantastic
fabric. I mean, it's like, it's
beautiful. But you can see small like
imperfections which are not imperfections.
Oh, that's the that's the real beauty of it.
It's like a Chantung, which is another way.
We are mainly using that for ties.
Actually there is imperfection it.
Looks like a bit worn out. Yeah, exactly.
And the threads are not the same width.
So that's where the imperfections are coming and
that's very beautiful. And this customer was, he didn't
like it, so he asked us to bring it to the tailor and try to
diminish. Shave it.
Yeah, shave it. So it's.
Crazy. And it's shocking to, because
it's actually work to achieve this appearance, and you wanted
to remove it. So no, chill.
Everything's going to be all right.
Your suit's going to wrinkle. Your suit is full of wrinkling.
And that's what's good about it. That's what you should enjoy.
Actually, that's the way it is, right?
But but now that we have said how good it is, let's maybe say
how it's nice to style it if you find that a bit difficult to
wear. Yeah, you style it very
classical. Yeah.
Is it grenadine Thai? He's kinda actually.
It's a phenom. Yeah, exactly.
It's not really grenadine, but it is a bit textured.
Grenadine would be even. More.
Yeah, it would be. You mean the the the the the the
suit is textured. Yeah, exactly.
So it's nice also to have other elements textured.
Yeah, exactly. You have linen shirt.
Exactly so I have. Summer shirt.
Yeah, exactly. Summer linen shirt.
Still white. Still white.
I just, I wanted to have a since I have never really won sister.
I wanted to go with this very classic look, almost
presidential look, because I think it's a cool way if you
want to attend a party or even a wedding.
Yeah, how would you What? Sorry, like I a bit I don't know
how to sit here, but okay, what occasion then?
Yeah, because this for example your look could be like.
Definitely wedding. Yeah, exactly.
I'm definitely in a summer wedding.
Summer party, Riviera style. It's going to be warm.
Cocktail party. Exactly.
It's a bit. It's during, it's daytime.
Daytime and it's not. Not an evening.
No, not evening exactly daytime it's going to be warm.
It's it's summer event perfect. You go like this with the tie
that is a bit darker still some texture in it linen.
So that's the exactly the outfit that you would like to wear in
this case, but if you want to be a bit more laid back then that
would be more your department. Yeah, I mean, I mean more mine
is more. I could have a red Testa Rosa
right now. Testa Rosa Ferrari or I don't
know, a Vespa or something. Yeah, it's also daytime.
It could be but it's I still I'm still suit up, but it's more
laid back and it's not it's for example, if you have friends
that don't wear suits maybe but you want to wear a suit.
You can. It's more you can be at a
picnic. I mean, not, not not eating hot
dogs or something because it's still.
Right, yeah, but I mean you you would eat hot dog even with a
off white suit? I usually eat stuff that are
with red sauces in white pants. Exactly.
So just that's life, you know, just be careful that might
happen. It's.
Just so easy because this is breathable.
This is breathable. It's just so easy.
I don't need to iron anything. My shoes are also white.
They look a bit from a distance, like sneakers, but they are not.
You could actually wear exactly wear it with sandals I would
say. Sandals dog shoe Vans, but
exactly dog shoe the van dog shoe style.
So with cotton, I mean, of course with it's probably one of
the only outfit I would wear with the white shoe.
I'm not very white shoe guy, but I think that with this it works
very nice. I thought about those shoes that
they are not easy to wear, but they are actually you wear them
like sneakers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I can imagine that actually. But also I would for example
open your shirt and add maybe some kind of bandana or
something. Like that?
Yeah. And that's my spoiling my next
outfit. It actually.
OK, but but also bolo tie. What do you think about that?
It's not western but it maybe it would look cool.
Yeah, I mean, I I love the the Western aesthetics, so every
time I can wear Western stuff and shirt, I would do it.
And yeah, that would actually bring a nice twist, I think.
A cool twist. But also with so-called wife
beater, a tank top. Or maybe I was just a regular
T-shirt. White T-shirt.
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm Yeah, exactly.
I would be more AT shirt guy in this case.
I like the wife beater under a shirt more than under a suit.
I. Would say that it gives a
different colour. Exactly.
It's a nice layer. Maybe some, I don't know, not
blue shirt. Maybe it would work even blue
shirt. It depends on the.
And white tank top underneath. Yeah, yeah, then yeah.
But the T-shirt, yes, I could, I could wear it.
There's a very nice brands of T-shirt.
We we talked about it. If you want to start with
something cheap, Uniqlo are making OK T-shirts then you can
go all the all the way up I think.
I never remember if it's Ascot or Arquette that are doing also
a very nice one to Scandinavian but.
Also you can just order for example some light Henley from
Hockerty. Exactly.
Yeah, that would be also very cool.
So yeah, pair it with white. You want to turn down things?
Because I mentioned Henley. Yeah, You know those Henleys, I
thought that they are so hard to wear with anything because you
don't have colour. Yeah, but those are so easy to
match with anything, really. I I I wear it.
But you were wearing Las Pitti also.
No, it wasn't Henley. It wasn't Henley.
No, I thought you were wearing one.
Once. No, it was a tank top.
And you never had the Henley back then?
No, no, I just. Bought my first Henley but yeah
I would say easier to pair it with lighter colours with white
usually so you can also have. Colours also.
Yeah, exactly. Very light colours.
And in terms of fabric, yeah, cotton, but more with texture.
So linen, cotton linen. Also knitted a bit like polo.
Like like mine for example. Crochet as you call it, I think.
Which are it's like no one was wearing them before two years
ago. I think it became it came back
like 2 years ago. Those they.
Had this on pity I guess. Yeah, exactly.
You had something like this on pity.
But two years ago they started supplier actually brought them
lot in front of everything. That can be cool.
So lighter colours work very fine on the shoe.
Yeah, you can go ahead. I'm I'm going brown today.
I would probably have worn something like you, so light
colour of white with white socks.
I forgot my socks so never mind. But also I could even wear this
with sandals, I wouldn't wear it with Oxford's.
No, Yeah, so there is actually there is the the Americans are
very fond of wearing it with. Tan shoes, Tan oxfords.
Oh yeah, don't, don't. OK, No disgusting shoes.
Not the derbies they have like derbies that are completely
white with a sole that is red. It's and they are very.
Popular. You're talking about saddle
shoes. Yeah.
It's white here, white here, and black in the middle and it can
be with retinol. No, no, no, the one I'm talking
about, they are super simple. They are like it's basic, basic.
There's not any perforation. It's like basic Derby Derby and
and it's only the they are white, completely white and the
sole is red. And it's a it's a very popular
shoe and they are, they can wear it with this type of not fit and
it's, they are super comfortable and all it's it's not super
fine. I think us European them also,
but I mean the more European way of wearing it would be with
loafers like what we are doing. Yeah, but Americans, I, I now I,
I remember that they wear it with saddle shoes, those white
with black. They also do this exactly which
those. Are also their base.
Yeah, exactly. So this is different.
It's a bit more the American way, but this could be nice.
But I mean. Even with the like a Panama hat
or something. Yeah, yeah, or, but like I was
talking the Kenote, you know, like a bit more squarish.
With small round. Exactly, which is quite good.
But that's the thing with arts you can quickly fall into like
being disguised, you know, like being wearing costume, not
wearing yourself, you know, but. Also, but also it's your sucker
for everyone. Yeah.
I mean, I don't think it is. It should.
I mean, you shouldn't feel restricted, but you maybe by
default feel restricted and then maybe it's not for you.
You will feel too is not for everyone.
You need to have. People will stare or people will
look, that's for sure. People will take.
A look at you. Yeah, exactly.
You you. Maybe you need to like.
That if you if you guys want to have something light, it's also
something classical because this is pure classic.
It's nothing. It's very classic.
Menswear is not Nothing fancy, actually.
It can hardly be your first suit.
I would say that if you have done suits before, maybe. 5th.
Yeah, exactly. And especially when you have you
found your cut in which you're super comfortable, you know
that. OK, I'm, I'm looking nice with
this. Then you can venture into
fabrics that are a bit more, yeah, flashy, a bit more in your
eyes because, yeah, you will have a bit more the look of
people. But if you look good, if you
don't really mind, if you're in control, if you know how you
look, you will forget about it. And it's it's not a bad thing if
people look at you. It's it's compliments.
It's also guys, the thing at Hokerty, you can also order just
a regular Navy suit if you like to.
Yeah, yeah. And and again, but we will jump
into the the second episode to talk about this.
It's a very good entrance when you have low budget, you want to
try something, you want to go further.
They are making more than cuts, but they can go more classic and
the way we are making our garments.
So it's much more classic with the IR eyes and so on.
So those are things that we will dive into because it it requires
a full episode, I would say yeah.
OK so that's a wrap up of this episode about series cycle suits
and guys comment which suit is better.
Who? Wear it better.
Who? Wear it better All right let's
do that and and show send us some pictures.
Maybe you also are wearing a Sia sucker.
Could be nice to share how you how you.
How you style? How you style your exact?
Sucker send us picture of your own outfit and if you want we
can blur the face or it can be without your face.
But would be nice also to share what you guys are wearing and
how you would wear this type of outfit actually.
It's always interesting how you guys look, how you guys think
because we style it in two different ways.
Every every way is it's not that that one way is better than the
other, but guys, which one would you choose, Jordan or Mihao and
see you in the next episode. Guys.