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Hello guys, welcome to a new 
episode of Suit Yourself 

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podcast. 
Yeah, a new setup, new quality, 

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and it's ice cream department. 
Exactly. 

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Your new free ice cream 
department is here. 

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This is the the manager 
speaking. 

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This is my best salesperson. 
It's so funny because you know, 

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guys, it's been a while and it's
actually summer in in Stockholm.

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I was at in Oslo. 
It's quite close to this weather

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actually. 
It's super warm. 

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But today it's a great weather 
to have Siyusaka with. 

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I think we can have this a bit 
lower. 

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Yeah, like this. 
Nice. 

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Yeah, New, new setup, new US. 
Yeah, how guys tell us, how do 

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you like the new setup? 
Because we we invested in some 

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sea stands, some new lamps and, 
and also just reorganise the 

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studio. 
So let us know in the comments 

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how how do you like it. 
I think it looks a bit more 

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genuine. 
It's a bit easier to discuss 

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together. 
Also to be in front of one 

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another. 
Well, I mean, we are very happy 

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about it, but you guys can tell 
us. 

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Yeah, and the guys remember to 
follow us and comment. 

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And actually one of our viewers 
and listeners wrote to us and he

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will be attending Pity Woman. 
So guys, June, we will be there 

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from the 15th to 19th. 
You will be a bit longer. 

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Yeah. 
So if you're going to be in 

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Fortez at the bus, so in 
Florence, just meet us. 

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Yeah. 
We can share some thoughts about

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about women's wear. 
Yeah, it's always a lot of fun 

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to meet you guys and discuss 
about you and see your vision 

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from the other side. 
It's we always keen to connect 

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with you and you know how we 
are. 

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We are not stiff. 
So that's what this podcast is 

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all about, is also connecting 
with people. 

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And also you're a bit stiffer 
today than me. 

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We both have. 
Because I'm the manager. 

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The same, the same. 
The same series soccer, but not 

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the same, actually. 
But yeah, we need to tell. 

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It's a special episode, so. 
It's a special episode. 

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The episode is in collaboration 
with Hockerty, a brand that in a

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very good price, you can get 
yourself a make to measure suit.

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Yeah. 
So we had the very nice 

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opportunity to collaborate with 
them and the idea for us was to 

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try and they have been very nice
with us because they they let us

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be independent and really share 
our knowledge. 

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You know guys that we are 
usually working with the very 

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high end brand and we are always
I'm going to talk very genuinely

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about the quality, but we also 
wanted to show that it is 

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possible to because you can 
receive some comments actually 

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of people explaining to you. 
Yeah, it's very it's for rich 

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people. 
It's rich people to measure. 

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Yeah, exactly make to measure. 
But just dressing up, it is very

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expensive, but. 
But also also one thing that you

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know, Hockerty, they don't only 
have suits. 

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Yeah, absolutely, and we will. 
Show something that you can 

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actually order. 
This is the first episode. 

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We have 4 episodes with Hockerty
and about Hockerty. 

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This one episode is about Sucker
Suit. 

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Absolutely. 
But just to round up, and that's

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what we're going to try to to 
prove and to explain, it is 

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actually possible to dress up in
a nice way with things that are 

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not so expensive. 
Of course, it's an entrance 

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level. 
So there are things that you can

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expect and things that you 
cannot expect, but it's still 

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good quality enough that we are 
wearing it and we are happy to 

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wear it and. 
We are looking at our. 

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Experience. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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Well, for sure they're expecting
ice creams I guess, but. 

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Yeah, it's coming. 
It's coming, guys. 

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It's coming. 
No parts yet. 

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Yeah, it's coming. 
Parts are. 

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Coming but guys OK, but what's 
your soccer is even. 

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It's quite an interesting fabric
actually, because. 

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Sorry, I forgot we going to 
share our our thoughts about 

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Hockerty and in the next 
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This episode will be about Sir 
soccer, but also that you can 

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really customize those suits and
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You don't need to go somewhere. 
So when you're shy, when you 

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think that those make to measure
boutiques are just for rich 

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people, people that know 
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In Poland, we we say that 
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about something. 
It's not that you have it in the

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in your little finger, but you 
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it. 
So yeah, funny, but you can do 

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it at home. 
Yeah, because a lot of us, and 

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frankly I was one of these, I 
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geeking online on the forums and
I was just getting my knowledge,

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especially as a younger guy 
online, and I was not feeling 

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super comfortable to just go 
outside and you needed. 

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To do the research, to go to the
store so you're not. 

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Yeah, and not a newbie and by by
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I would rather do everything 
online, yeah, from home and just

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say, oh, I want it like this and
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Because you know, a lot of a lot
of guys in those made to measure

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Italy, yes, they just want to 
sell you things. 

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Exactly. 
And it feels like it's easier 

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to, it's easier to say, OK, I 
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then. 
Yeah, but it's fine. 

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The the, I mean the, the website
is very easy to use. 

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You measure yourself and even if
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like you got real, don't spoil 
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But I got some fancy stuff. 
Not in the hole, but I I forgot 

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to write about it so. 
We we can talk about it in the 

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in the dedicated episode, I made
you jealous about my sweet, but 

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let's. 
Talk. 

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My mind is a bit more laid back.
Yeah, Yeah. 

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But yours is very nice, 
actually. 

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It's just. 
But that's cool. 

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We're going to talk about CS 
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And actually just visually 
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All right, CS sucker, 
traditionally this is those 

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white and light blue stripes. 
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What is super common in the more
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That's the common. 
You have a smaller stripes. 

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Exactly. 
I have the smaller ones, you 

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have the bigger ones and. 
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Well, I'm because I have nothing
to compensate for. 

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Because because just just guys, 
we were talking about it, I 

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think in few episodes that if 
you're wider, if you have more, 

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more muscular posture than its 
proportions, then then you need 

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to have. 
You don't need to have, but 

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it's. 
It's nice to have maybe. 

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Actually I'm I'm finishing 
dating so I I've lost a lot of 

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kills. 
I don't know if you can tell I'm

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about to disappear, but yeah. 
So before going in the story and

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everything, we can just talk 
about the, yeah, the visual 

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appearance. 
And right away, Mihar decided to

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go for this one because it's 
more proportionate, it goes 

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better with your physical 
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Also, I think that my fabric is 
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Feels a bit more laid back. 
In the. 

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Way it drapes softer, yeah. 
It looks more like pyjamas. 

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That's what I thought when you 
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working on and I thought he was 
in pyjamas. 

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Yeah, but you know, with Sirsaki
you can go, you can look very 

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good, but you can also go a bit 
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Then it's a bit too much to I, I
guess I, I'm not afraid of being

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too much like I have my collar 
on, on the lapels of the, of the

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shirt. 
The shirt is also almost like 

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transparent. 
White shoes, white socks, so. 

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Yeah, and I was supposed to. 
I forgot my white socks so you 

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will excuse me and people will 
comment. 

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Maybe some will say it's too 
feminine to wear it without 

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socks, but you I've heard that 
before. 

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I would do it maybe without the 
without a tie and so. 

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It was unintentional. 
But it's a summer suit. 

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It is and it's a more, it's much
more laid back piece. 

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The idea is that you shouldn't 
be so afraid to move around it. 

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Of course it's a light colour, 
but you will get stained in its 

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life, you know, so it's fine. 
And you don't need to iron it. 

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No, exactly. 
It's that's the thing because a 

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lot of people they, they, they 
buy linen and they want to iron 

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it and you know, even brands 
they are selling me. 

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Linen super clean. 
AI cleaned. 

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It doesn't. 
That's not even nice. 

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I mean, that's the problem. 
It needs to live with you and 

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I'm not afraid of has some 
creases. 

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I'm not afraid of making it a 
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People, you should, I mean, 
yeah, maybe we're used and maybe

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we are less. 
We care less about the the 

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impression of people or or their
opinion about us because 

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honestly, when I wear a suit, I 
can wear a tuxedo, can wear 

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anything. 
I don't feel like I'm wearing 

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something so I don't really care
but. 

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Also, it's not a business suit. 
It's not a suit that you're 

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going to work. 
But yeah, a lot of American 

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presidents ignore it. 
But in America, occasions. 

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Exactly. 
But in America, this is a fabric

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that is much more popular in 
America nowadays. 

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In Europe it's quite rare to 
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Yeah, and it started in Persia. 
Exactly. 

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Yeah, let's go back to the 
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We just need the, we need the 
sound ball like. 

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Yeah, you know, Yeah, exactly. 
Wait, I don't even know which 

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sound is it right now. 
Should have like stamps on it. 

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This one is the fart. 
This one we don't have the fart.

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Yeah, sorry. 
So you know it comes from a 

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Persian sheer or shakar, which 
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Milk and sugar, exactly. 
So me actually, I, I, but that's

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something that you told me. 
I knew it was coming from the 

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British colonial empire. 
When they met those British. 

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It always comes from this. 
So I knew it was British from 

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the start, but actually it's 
Persian from the beginning. 

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And then it moved to India and 
that's where the English 

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actually discovered this fabric.
And basically the English were 

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coming with their very stiff or 
to warm fabric. 

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Even the linen was too warm for 
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And they discovered those 
fabrics that were much lighter. 

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It's like the Gurkha trousers, 
for example. 

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It's another type of trousers 
that they they took from there. 

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But so they just adapted the 
local fabrics with their their 

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own suit, their own uniforms, 
and they use it because it's 

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much seener, much lighter and 
the the little. 

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The fabric is rough, exactly. 
So that's why it's a contrast 

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between those colours, milk and 
sugar. 

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But roughness of the of the 
material exactly, Yeah. 

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Tell us about the of the. 
So you have one stripe that is 

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quite clean and the other one 
that is a bit wrinkly. 

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So that's why the idea there is 
that not only to thin fabric so 

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it's breathable, but also by 
adding volume you will add more 

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space for air to flow. 
Yeah, it's because one of the 

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one of the strings and the 
strings is more tense. 

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Exactly. 
So there's more tension in one 

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of the strings than the other 
ones. 

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So they shrink. 
I think it's when they are, they

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just want them. 
So they shrink. 

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And then you have like this like
a bit pocket. 

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Yeah, pocket. 
Exactly. 

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Pocket type of rough appearance,
and that's why it's supposed to 

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breathe a bit better. 
But you know what is was it 

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popular as bet, bet, bet clothes
in in in France, for example? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, no, yeah. 

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But it yeah, it it could now 
actually. 

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Because in in in 19 in 2000 in 
Poland it was popular to have 

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bet clothes. 
Made of. 

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Yeah, of Suisacre and and in 
Poland it's called Cora. 

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OK, OK. 
And Cora also, you know, we have

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a tree and you know, the, the 
tree has this, you know, Cora 

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like the, the, the rough. 
The cork, Yeah. 

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OK. 
Yeah. 

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Nice, yeah. 
So it looks like it. 

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Exactly. 
And talking about this actually,

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so we have a very classic colour
that might be a bit more 

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difficult to wear. 
But my point of earlier was to 

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say you shouldn't care too much 
about what people think about 

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what you wear, to be honest. 
But if you did, it of course 

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exists in many other colours. 
You can have it in midnight 

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blue, you can have it in green 
or so that can be nice or tall 

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it. 
Can be just one colour. 

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Just just plain plain colour 
without those stripes. 

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Yeah. 
And then it makes it maybe 

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easier to wear in all the 
circumstances. 

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And it can. 
Look a bit formal, even. 

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Exactly. 
So me, I'm wearing it in a bit 

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more formal than I'm used to in 
suits. 

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So I have like a shoulder that 
is a bit more pronounced, which 

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I think is quite cool. 
It it gives also this bit. 

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Yeah, like a formal, casual 
American way of doing it, which 

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I I. 
Think Ronald Dragon loved the 

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serious soccer? 
That's my JFK look, I guess. 

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Also JFK. 
Exactly. 

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Hopefully I don't end up like 
any of them. 

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But yeah, also we wanted to show
you guys that you can wear it 

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with a tie, but you can also 
wear it more Miami Vice like me.

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That's exactly what we wanted to
show, and we all planned it 

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carefully in advance. 
Not at all. 

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We were not. 
We were. 

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We are. 
We are actually, for some reason

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we're very good at not really 
planning what you and I are 

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wearing, but it's always 
matching in a good way. 

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You know, it's showing a 
different perspective on the 

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scene or I mean, that's. 
That's the thing. 

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That's the connection after. 
We ate the teeth on the 

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menswear, so that's why we have 
a podcast. 

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Exactly. 
I mean, guys, everyone can have 

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a podcast. 
So it's not that. 

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It's not that. 
Everyone has podcast I think. 

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That's not that hard. 
It's not that hard. 

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I actually borrowed some 
microphones for a girl that was 

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in Swedish Love is Blind 
yesterday, so I borrowed her a 

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microphone so maybe I can help 
her with the recording. 

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But that's, that's funny. 
But that's a job, I would say, 

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because honestly, you had this 
experience before. 

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That's an experience I gained by
doing it with you. 

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But I can really tell the 
difference from the start, from 

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my first episodes. 
And now both of us have evolved 

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and and hopefully made it 
better. 

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I hope. 
Yeah. 

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Let us know guys what what you 
feel. 

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But I mean. 
It's a journey. 

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A lot of a lot of people have 
their own podcast and it's still

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the same. 
It's just audio. 

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No, no video. 
Yeah, but that's also because 

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our spirit and and very much 
yours in that in that regard is 

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we want to strive to always do 
better. 

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We always want to improve. 
We and you're always also super 

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excited to change things and to 
you have been talking about the 

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setup for weeks. 
Yeah, because because I about 

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those C stands, you guys, you 
cannot see them. 

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And that's the point. 
Yeah, but OK, I'm nerdy about 

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it, but also let's be nerdy 
about those those suits. 

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So sorry, guys. 
So, so, so guys, it's just so 

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nice to wear serious soccer. 
But also it was just so, so easy

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to order it. 
You have a few serious soccer 

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fabrics and also at Hockerty you
have a lot of fabrics, but it's 

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not too many. 
No, exactly. 

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It's also crazy. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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Because. 
When you're new, you don't want 

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to have too much of the choice. 
You need to have some choice. 

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But you know a lot of brands, 
they can do this and that and 

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it's very easy to go bonkers. 
You then then you order a suit 

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that you will never wear. 
Exactly. 

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But because it will look like, I
don't know, Prince of Persia, 

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kind of. 
Costume, Costume. 

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Maybe we, we are as a costume, 
but you know, it's also fun. 

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Menswear is fun. 
So you can order some, some nice

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stuff. 
And at Hockerty, for example, 

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it's not that expensive that you
need to, you need to pay €2000 

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for some, some kind of suit. 
I think it's it can it can even 

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start from 200. 
EUR 300 we exactly and we will 

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of course talk more about it on 
on the next episode. 

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But I think that actually these 
type of suits are excellent if 

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you are on a budget, if you are 
figuring out yourself. 

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Also if you are not sure of if 
this fabric is going to suit me,

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if I can really go for it for so
that maybe you were less than 

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another one. 
So we're going to break the 

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bank. 
Exactly. 

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So it's a very good way of 
testing. 

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I would say also and, and yeah, 
overall if you are starting in 

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this journey, so it's a mix of 
you're on the budget and also 

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you're not sure of what is 
working for you, then I would 

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say it's a very, very good 
entrance point. 

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But I think that's something we 
can develop a bit bit later on 

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on the second episode. 
But to go back on the on the CS 

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soccer fabric and I think it's 
something that we can give to 

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every summer fabric. 
And also guys, you need to 

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understand that we're living in 
Scandinavia. 

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So here it's been a long winter.
So as soon as the sun appears. 

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Yeah, May, May 2nd, we're 
recording this episode and it's 

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actually the second day. 
Actually, summer started 

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yesterday. 
Oh, like officially. 

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No, I mean the weather was nice.
That's actually that's actually 

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you could wear yesterday 
T-shirt. 

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And yeah, today it was up to 25 
in the sun. 

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That's amazing. 
And, you know, I think that 

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there's something that is 
amazing with seasons. 

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It's like things are changing. 
And I mean, you go out, you take

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your first beer outside with 
your friends, that counts. 

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You know that's the first beer 
of the year in the Nissan and 

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when you. 
In in Stockholm it can be 

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Rossea. 
You know, yeah, of course. 

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You know, I grew up in the house
where they invented Rosie. 

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Oh, really? 
And that's what's written on the

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sign, at least. 
But and also certain fabrics. 

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So this is the first time of the
year after this long darkness or

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cold or whatever, where you can 
put your linen and where you can

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put your sesacre. 
And then if you're special. 

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White shoes? 
Exactly, a lot of people are 

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just so confused what to wear. 
I see people in the down jacket.

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It's difficult to know what to 
wear actually, because it's very

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warm in the middle of the day, 
it's a bit fresh. 

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But that's nice that you can 
actually layer. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
So that's that's the strength of

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this period of time and that's 
how you can adapt. 

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It's layering basically or 
having certain fabrics that 

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adjust to this weather. 
So if you have like high twisted

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walls that are more open and 
more breathable, or if you have 

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blends like wool, silk and 
linen, those type of fabrics 

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will be more adaptive along the 
day. 

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So you can keep it on your 
shoulders and still it's not 

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going to be too warm, it's not 
going. 

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To be I would say that usually 
cotton is pretty warm, but CS 

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soccer is not. 
No, exactly. 

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That's really the strength of CS
soccer for that. 

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But. 
You still need to. 

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You cannot wash it in your 
washing machine. 

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You cannot wash it. 
You cannot iron it. 

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You need to accept this wrinkle.
You know you need to. 

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That's the beauty with it. 
That's make it makes it a bit 

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more laid back also, so less 
stiff and probably easier to 

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wear. 
Because a lot of some people 

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think that suits are just stiff,
but you can see that you can be 

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ice cream guy. 
Exactly. 

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Would you buy ice cream from us 
guys? 

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Yeah. 
Your whole whole whole truck. 

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But. 
But The thing is that thing is 

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that it can as, as we said a lot
of as we said that a lot of US 

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presidents were serious soccer 
and it's tradition there and 

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it's something that you can wear
during summer on for example, I 

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don't know, go for some for some
more laid back occasions. 

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Yeah, and then you're. 
But it's still a suit. 

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Me. 
It reminds me also of those a 

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beautiful picture because these 
type of colors, they are not 

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new. 
It's the Csacre that is new. 

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But wearing stripes blue and 
white is not new. 

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It's been done for 100 years and
you can still see the paintings 

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of. 
The shirts right now. 

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Exactly right now, Sir, but you 
can see like paintings of, I 

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don't know, Hanoi or Mane all 
the, the, the painters from that

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era. 
And when they were painting 

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breakfast on the on the grass, 
you could see the people with 

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their Kanoatier, the the straw 
art and, and with these type of 

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colours already. 
And that's that's very. 

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Beautiful. 
I'm waiting for someone to come 

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and that it's Auschwitz. 
Oh fuck yeah. 

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Because. 
This guy will be banned. 

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In, in, in in Poland when I wore
some. 

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Striped. 
Shirts, it's always. 

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The pyjamas. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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It's no the you know in the. 
Yeah, yeah, Pajamas of 

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Auschwitz. 
I know because some people were 

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calling that pajamas. 
I mean, they were almost wearing

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pajamas, but yeah, no, that's 
not it. 

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That would be very far fetched 
combination I would say. 

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How many? 
How many people at your work, 

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for example, ordered seersucker 
suit? 

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Not so many. 
So actually we have on the 

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collection this year Olive Green
CS Soccer and I ordered it. 

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It's it's one colour. 
Yeah, one colour, olive green 

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so. 
But otherwise I don't think 

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anyone at work would maybe dare 
to. 

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It's not there because they're 
daring, but it's more that it 

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would be their style. 
And me, I I'm more adventurous. 

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I. 
Never had CS soccer before. 

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No, not before. 
I had a Sisaka last two years 

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ago from Hockerty actually. 
Yeah, it was the same, just 

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green. 
But yeah. 

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Yeah, it was very nice actually.
It, it looked really cool and I 

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love it with some kind of 
bandana here, open shirt loafers

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without socks, of course, in the
in the summer, but I just needed

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to sell it because I I became 
too big. 

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Too big? 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
But that's, that's also the, the

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thing I would say with the, 
that's what we mentioned, you 

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can try on different things with
OCOTY. 

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And when you have, when you're a
bit on a, on a budget like this,

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it could be super interesting to
try colours that are a bit 

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outside of your comfort zone 
usually. 

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And also fabrics that are they 
don't, you don't need to put so 

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much money to have something 
that is good when it comes to 

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cotton and linen. 
So for these prices, you already

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have something that is quite 
fine. 

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I mean, this fabric is quite. 
Nice. 

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It's it's a no name fabric I 
think, but they also have a 

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premium fabrics. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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They are from Weaver actually 
from actual weavers. 

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Those are can be slightly 
pricier, but it's still very, 

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very nicely priced. 
Also, The thing is that at the 

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Hockerty you can order shoes, 
you can order accessories, you 

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can order polo shirts, Henleys. 
I have one Henley that we'll 

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we'll show with later. 
And shoes, for example, loafers,

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you can order, each part of the 
shoe can be in different 

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colours. 
So you can order like black and 

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white loafers. 
It's pretty cool if you if you 

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want to have something that 
sticks out and a lot of guys if 

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you want to have some some kind 
of inspiration. 

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Hockerty will be at Pity Womo 
and we will attend the the party

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and the the idea is to make some
interviews there and show the 

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outfits how people can wear. 
It's about fun. 

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Yeah, guys, pity Warmer is going
to be a blast this year. 

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I mean, we always say that, but 
it's true. 

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This year we have like list like
this of things to create you. 

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It's going to be fun to follow 
us on the socials. 

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Already prepared and but I don't
know if if it's have you seen 

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because it comes from UK 
colonies. 

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Yeah. 
Is it the same the same as as 

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popular as in the United States 
in the UKI don't think. 

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So I don't think so either. 
I think it it feels a bit old 

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school for us, it feels a bit 
weird and also our relationship 

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to those time and colonies 
included makes it not so. 

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Popular but it's like British, 
they had so many colonies took 

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spices and they still have the 
plain food and. 

453
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,160
OK, sorry. 
And still the food is bad. 

454
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:22,080
What's going on there? 
But yeah, for us, we identify 

455
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,160
that much more as American 
because those are the Americans 

456
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,520
that styled it and. 
Also more. 

457
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
But that's really with things 

458
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,320
like this, because we know that 
we have the English style, we 

459
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,640
have the Italian style. 
For most people, it's a bit more

460
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,400
advanced and a bit more 
difficult to identify. 

461
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,400
The French style, for example, 
but it exists and you have the 

462
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,880
American style and you say, 
yeah, Americans, they don't have

463
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,720
as much culture and refinement 
as they have those sax. 

464
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,320
Suits, we can actually cover it 
in one episode. 

465
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:56,480
Exactly, but there is an 
American style and it includes 

466
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,960
sax suit and it it also includes
this the CS soccer are very 

467
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,320
popular in America and. 
Button down shirts as well. 

468
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,600
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
Now they they have actually 

469
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,280
participated. 
From UK then they just. 

470
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:12,040
It always comes from us. 
It's way introduced. 

471
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:20,360
The the Americans are calling to
joke around England older colony

472
00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:24,280
also. 
So yeah, yeah, it's everything 

473
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,680
is coming from from Europe at 
some point even in America, but 

474
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,080
sometimes many cultural things 
from Europe and very diverse 

475
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,040
things in Europe actually were 
implemented and lost some in a 

476
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,080
very different way in America. 
For example, the very the Cobo 

477
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,880
shots that are super American 
with all the the roses and the 

478
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:47,440
the black and white also super 
typical. 

479
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,840
This is actually coming from 
Central Europe, Ukraine and so 

480
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,280
on. 
And those were Ukrainian 

481
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,680
patterns that and the colours of
Ukraine patterns that was taken 

482
00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,280
in the 1st place to use this 
black and red colours on some 

483
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,640
shirts. 
So. 

484
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,800
It might be even some Polish 
heritage because I, I remember 

485
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:11,280
because, yeah, I think Ukraine 
is pretty, pretty young as a 

486
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,440
country. 
And part of Ukraine was Poland. 

487
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:22,400
And I know that it was, it was a
cultural thing to decorate with 

488
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,120
paintings, houses. 
Yeah, women, women were doing 

489
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:28,360
that. 
And it's in Ukraine. 

490
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:31,840
I think it comes actually from 
Poland, but I'm not sure. 

491
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,440
Because. 
There there was also a town in 

492
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,440
Poland that women were doing 
that. 

493
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,520
Because I'm in those culture, 
we're very close for now. 

494
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,160
So it was different expression 
of it. 

495
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:46,160
And again, I can source what I'm
talking about, but obviously we 

496
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,800
could do a full episode on, on, 
on, in, on those shirts, the 

497
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,840
Cobo shirts. 
And of course, it's coming 

498
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,080
actually from the Indian 
American and most South America 

499
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,720
culture from the start. 
I know about that. 

500
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,720
So I'm not saying that it's an 
inquiry Indian shirt that came 

501
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,880
in America. 
I'm not saying that it's, I'm 

502
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,520
just talking about. 
American America was born with 

503
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,840
immigrants. 
Yeah, yeah. 

504
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,600
And it's a very young country 
that like not even 300 years 

505
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,400
old. 
So it's a very young country. 

506
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,960
So a lot of things from Europe 
blossom there in a very 

507
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,040
different way. 
And this is one of them actually

508
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:28,920
something that didn't really 
stick in Europe or became a bit 

509
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,920
old fashioned. 
It's still blossoming there and 

510
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,040
it's quite popular and and I 
must say they are right. 

511
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,280
It's quite cool. 
I mean, I'm feeling nice. 

512
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,760
I mean, from a certain distance,
it just looks like a blue suit, 

513
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,000
light blue exactly, which is a 
nice color. 

514
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,000
I mean, it's summer your be. 
Fresh yours is more formal, I 

515
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,840
would say mine it's still a bit.
Yeah, a bit more relaxed, but I 

516
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,240
mean that's, I mean, I'm going 
to break it down. 

517
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,360
I'm going to wear it. 
It's going to round up, it's 

518
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:01,400
going to adjust my body. 
The crease is not going to stay.

519
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,880
And that's what you should 
enjoy. 

520
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,760
We were talking about this. 
I had the customer once which 

521
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,160
ordered the full suit in raw 
silk, which is a fantastic 

522
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,960
fabric. 
I mean, it's like, it's 

523
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,240
beautiful. 
But you can see small like 

524
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,000
imperfections which are not 
imperfections. 

525
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,400
Oh, that's the that's the real 
beauty of it. 

526
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,000
It's like a Chantung, which is 
another way. 

527
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,480
We are mainly using that for 
ties. 

528
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,720
Actually there is imperfection 
it. 

529
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,320
Looks like a bit worn out. 
Yeah, exactly. 

530
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,520
And the threads are not the same
width. 

531
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,520
So that's where the 
imperfections are coming and 

532
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,600
that's very beautiful. 
And this customer was, he didn't

533
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,920
like it, so he asked us to bring
it to the tailor and try to 

534
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,320
diminish. 
Shave it. 

535
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,520
Yeah, shave it. 
So it's. 

536
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,400
Crazy. 
And it's shocking to, because 

537
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,040
it's actually work to achieve 
this appearance, and you wanted 

538
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,160
to remove it. 
So no, chill. 

539
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,800
Everything's going to be all 
right. 

540
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,880
Your suit's going to wrinkle. 
Your suit is full of wrinkling. 

541
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,800
And that's what's good about it.
That's what you should enjoy. 

542
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,840
Actually, that's the way it is, 
right? 

543
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,680
But but now that we have said 
how good it is, let's maybe say 

544
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,240
how it's nice to style it if you
find that a bit difficult to 

545
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,840
wear. 
Yeah, you style it very 

546
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:20,920
classical. 
Yeah. 

547
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,960
Is it grenadine Thai? 
He's kinda actually. 

548
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,520
It's a phenom. 
Yeah, exactly. 

549
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,640
It's not really grenadine, but 
it is a bit textured. 

550
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,320
Grenadine would be even. 
More. 

551
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,800
Yeah, it would be. 
You mean the the the the the the

552
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,880
suit is textured. 
Yeah, exactly. 

553
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,680
So it's nice also to have other 
elements textured. 

554
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,160
Yeah, exactly. 
You have linen shirt. 

555
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,400
Exactly so I have. 
Summer shirt. 

556
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,320
Yeah, exactly. 
Summer linen shirt. 

557
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,440
Still white. 
Still white. 

558
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,480
I just, I wanted to have a since
I have never really won sister. 

559
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,040
I wanted to go with this very 
classic look, almost 

560
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,160
presidential look, because I 
think it's a cool way if you 

561
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,880
want to attend a party or even a
wedding. 

562
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,680
Yeah, how would you What? 
Sorry, like I a bit I don't know

563
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,280
how to sit here, but okay, what 
occasion then? 

564
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,720
Yeah, because this for example 
your look could be like. 

565
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,720
Definitely wedding. 
Yeah, exactly. 

566
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,520
I'm definitely in a summer 
wedding. 

567
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,320
Summer party, Riviera style. 
It's going to be warm. 

568
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,080
Cocktail party. 
Exactly. 

569
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,680
It's a bit. 
It's during, it's daytime. 

570
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,080
Daytime and it's not. 
Not an evening. 

571
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,200
No, not evening exactly daytime 
it's going to be warm. 

572
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,840
It's it's summer event perfect. 
You go like this with the tie 

573
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,240
that is a bit darker still some 
texture in it linen. 

574
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,160
So that's the exactly the outfit
that you would like to wear in 

575
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,000
this case, but if you want to be
a bit more laid back then that 

576
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,160
would be more your department. 
Yeah, I mean, I mean more mine 

577
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,000
is more. 
I could have a red Testa Rosa 

578
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,480
right now. 
Testa Rosa Ferrari or I don't 

579
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,600
know, a Vespa or something. 
Yeah, it's also daytime. 

580
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:11,280
It could be but it's I still I'm
still suit up, but it's more 

581
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,760
laid back and it's not it's for 
example, if you have friends 

582
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,920
that don't wear suits maybe but 
you want to wear a suit. 

583
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,560
You can. 
It's more you can be at a 

584
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,600
picnic. 
I mean, not, not not eating hot 

585
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,120
dogs or something because it's 
still. 

586
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,880
Right, yeah, but I mean you you 
would eat hot dog even with a 

587
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,880
off white suit? 
I usually eat stuff that are 

588
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,840
with red sauces in white pants. 
Exactly. 

589
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,560
So just that's life, you know, 
just be careful that might 

590
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,040
happen. 
It's. 

591
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,680
Just so easy because this is 
breathable. 

592
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,840
This is breathable. 
It's just so easy. 

593
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,840
I don't need to iron anything. 
My shoes are also white. 

594
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,200
They look a bit from a distance,
like sneakers, but they are not.

595
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,560
You could actually wear exactly 
wear it with sandals I would 

596
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,520
say. 
Sandals dog shoe Vans, but 

597
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,760
exactly dog shoe the van dog 
shoe style. 

598
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:11,680
So with cotton, I mean, of 
course with it's probably one of

599
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,800
the only outfit I would wear 
with the white shoe. 

600
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,520
I'm not very white shoe guy, but
I think that with this it works 

601
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,280
very nice. 
I thought about those shoes that

602
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,400
they are not easy to wear, but 
they are actually you wear them 

603
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,920
like sneakers. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

604
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,240
But I can imagine that actually.
But also I would for example 

605
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,360
open your shirt and add maybe 
some kind of bandana or 

606
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,000
something. 
Like that? 

607
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,480
Yeah. 
And that's my spoiling my next 

608
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,120
outfit. 
It actually. 

609
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,800
OK, but but also bolo tie. 
What do you think about that? 

610
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,640
It's not western but it maybe it
would look cool. 

611
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,560
Yeah, I mean, I I love the the 
Western aesthetics, so every 

612
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,240
time I can wear Western stuff 
and shirt, I would do it. 

613
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,240
And yeah, that would actually 
bring a nice twist, I think. 

614
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,760
A cool twist. 
But also with so-called wife 

615
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,240
beater, a tank top. 
Or maybe I was just a regular 

616
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,520
T-shirt. 
White T-shirt. 

617
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,960
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm Yeah, 
exactly. 

618
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,040
I would be more AT shirt guy in 
this case. 

619
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,000
I like the wife beater under a 
shirt more than under a suit. 

620
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,200
I. 
Would say that it gives a 

621
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,520
different colour. 
Exactly. 

622
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,560
It's a nice layer. 
Maybe some, I don't know, not 

623
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,760
blue shirt. 
Maybe it would work even blue 

624
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,080
shirt. 
It depends on the. 

625
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,240
And white tank top underneath. 
Yeah, yeah, then yeah. 

626
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,440
But the T-shirt, yes, I could, I
could wear it. 

627
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,200
There's a very nice brands of 
T-shirt. 

628
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,200
We we talked about it. 
If you want to start with 

629
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,400
something cheap, Uniqlo are 
making OK T-shirts then you can 

630
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,920
go all the all the way up I 
think. 

631
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,000
I never remember if it's Ascot 
or Arquette that are doing also 

632
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,600
a very nice one to Scandinavian 
but. 

633
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,920
Also you can just order for 
example some light Henley from 

634
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,240
Hockerty. 
Exactly. 

635
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,200
Yeah, that would be also very 
cool. 

636
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,880
So yeah, pair it with white. 
You want to turn down things? 

637
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,920
Because I mentioned Henley. 
Yeah, You know those Henleys, I 

638
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,800
thought that they are so hard to
wear with anything because you 

639
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,800
don't have colour. 
Yeah, but those are so easy to 

640
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,400
match with anything, really. 
I I I wear it. 

641
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:28,400
But you were wearing Las Pitti 
also. 

642
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,960
No, it wasn't Henley. 
It wasn't Henley. 

643
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,199
No, I thought you were wearing 
one. 

644
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,800
Once. 
No, it was a tank top. 

645
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,000
And you never had the Henley 
back then? 

646
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,920
No, no, I just. 
Bought my first Henley but yeah 

647
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,440
I would say easier to pair it 
with lighter colours with white 

648
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,280
usually so you can also have. 
Colours also. 

649
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,560
Yeah, exactly. 
Very light colours. 

650
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,840
And in terms of fabric, yeah, 
cotton, but more with texture. 

651
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:04,080
So linen, cotton linen. 
Also knitted a bit like polo. 

652
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,160
Like like mine for example. 
Crochet as you call it, I think.

653
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:14,320
Which are it's like no one was 
wearing them before two years 

654
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,920
ago. 
I think it became it came back 

655
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,080
like 2 years ago. 
Those they. 

656
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,080
Had this on pity I guess. 
Yeah, exactly. 

657
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,400
You had something like this on 
pity. 

658
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:28,360
But two years ago they started 
supplier actually brought them 

659
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,920
lot in front of everything. 
That can be cool. 

660
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,920
So lighter colours work very 
fine on the shoe. 

661
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,760
Yeah, you can go ahead. 
I'm I'm going brown today. 

662
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:46,480
I would probably have worn 
something like you, so light 

663
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,400
colour of white with white 
socks. 

664
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,840
I forgot my socks so never mind.
But also I could even wear this 

665
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,840
with sandals, I wouldn't wear it
with Oxford's. 

666
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:03,520
No, Yeah, so there is actually 
there is the the Americans are 

667
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,200
very fond of wearing it with. 
Tan shoes, Tan oxfords. 

668
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:10,200
Oh yeah, don't, don't. 
OK, No disgusting shoes. 

669
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,720
Not the derbies they have like 
derbies that are completely 

670
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:18,320
white with a sole that is red. 
It's and they are very. 

671
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,880
Popular. 
You're talking about saddle 

672
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,160
shoes. 
Yeah. 

673
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,400
It's white here, white here, and
black in the middle and it can 

674
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,320
be with retinol. 
No, no, no, the one I'm talking 

675
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,720
about, they are super simple. 
They are like it's basic, basic.

676
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:36,320
There's not any perforation. 
It's like basic Derby Derby and 

677
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,280
and it's only the they are 
white, completely white and the 

678
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,560
sole is red. 
And it's a it's a very popular 

679
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,320
shoe and they are, they can wear
it with this type of not fit and

680
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,920
it's, they are super comfortable
and all it's it's not super 

681
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,400
fine. 
I think us European them also, 

682
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,320
but I mean the more European way
of wearing it would be with 

683
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,920
loafers like what we are doing. 
Yeah, but Americans, I, I now I,

684
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,840
I remember that they wear it 
with saddle shoes, those white 

685
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,000
with black. 
They also do this exactly which 

686
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,320
those. 
Are also their base. 

687
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,040
Yeah, exactly. 
So this is different. 

688
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,520
It's a bit more the American 
way, but this could be nice. 

689
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,520
But I mean. 
Even with the like a Panama hat 

690
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,680
or something. 
Yeah, yeah, or, but like I was 

691
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,920
talking the Kenote, you know, 
like a bit more squarish. 

692
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,960
With small round. 
Exactly, which is quite good. 

693
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,640
But that's the thing with arts 
you can quickly fall into like 

694
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:37,240
being disguised, you know, like 
being wearing costume, not 

695
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:41,080
wearing yourself, you know, but.
Also, but also it's your sucker 

696
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,240
for everyone. 
Yeah. 

697
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,760
I mean, I don't think it is. 
It should. 

698
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,600
I mean, you shouldn't feel 
restricted, but you maybe by 

699
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,000
default feel restricted and then
maybe it's not for you. 

700
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,280
You will feel too is not for 
everyone. 

701
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,480
You need to have. 
People will stare or people will

702
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,160
look, that's for sure. 
People will take. 

703
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,840
A look at you. 
Yeah, exactly. 

704
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,800
You you. 
Maybe you need to like. 

705
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,560
That if you if you guys want to 
have something light, it's also 

706
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,080
something classical because this
is pure classic. 

707
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:13,480
It's nothing. 
It's very classic. 

708
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,680
Menswear is not Nothing fancy, 
actually. 

709
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,440
It can hardly be your first 
suit. 

710
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,520
I would say that if you have 
done suits before, maybe. 5th. 

711
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,920
Yeah, exactly. 
And especially when you have you

712
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,560
found your cut in which you're 
super comfortable, you know 

713
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,120
that. 
OK, I'm, I'm looking nice with 

714
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,080
this. 
Then you can venture into 

715
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,400
fabrics that are a bit more, 
yeah, flashy, a bit more in your

716
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,320
eyes because, yeah, you will 
have a bit more the look of 

717
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,440
people. 
But if you look good, if you 

718
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,040
don't really mind, if you're in 
control, if you know how you 

719
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,240
look, you will forget about it. 
And it's it's not a bad thing if

720
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:50,680
people look at you. 
It's it's compliments. 

721
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,560
It's also guys, the thing at 
Hokerty, you can also order just

722
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,960
a regular Navy suit if you like 
to. 

723
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:01,040
Yeah, yeah. 
And and again, but we will jump 

724
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,000
into the the second episode to 
talk about this. 

725
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,480
It's a very good entrance when 
you have low budget, you want to

726
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,160
try something, you want to go 
further. 

727
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,560
They are making more than cuts, 
but they can go more classic and

728
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,640
the way we are making our 
garments. 

729
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,920
So it's much more classic with 
the IR eyes and so on. 

730
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,840
So those are things that we will
dive into because it it requires

731
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,040
a full episode, I would say 
yeah. 

732
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,080
OK so that's a wrap up of this 
episode about series cycle suits

733
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,480
and guys comment which suit is 
better. 

734
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,040
Who? 
Wear it better. 

735
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,480
Who? 
Wear it better All right let's 

736
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,640
do that and and show send us 
some pictures. 

737
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,200
Maybe you also are wearing a Sia
sucker. 

738
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,320
Could be nice to share how you 
how you. 

739
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,400
How you style? 
How you style your exact? 

740
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,520
Sucker send us picture of your 
own outfit and if you want we 

741
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,680
can blur the face or it can be 
without your face. 

742
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,880
But would be nice also to share 
what you guys are wearing and 

743
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,760
how you would wear this type of 
outfit actually. 

744
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,360
It's always interesting how you 
guys look, how you guys think 

745
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,120
because we style it in two 
different ways. 

746
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,960
Every every way is it's not that
that one way is better than the 

747
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:18,240
other, but guys, which one would
you choose, Jordan or Mihao and 

748
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,040
see you in the next episode. 
Guys.

