1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,800 In today's episode of Jolando and Jolano. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,400 You. You guys, that was a funny thing 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:16,760 because I just miss misspelled wrote wrongly your name because 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:23,800 I just edited and in a HRGPT Yeah, and then it from Jordan it 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,120 became Jolando. Yeah, and I thought it was a 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,920 joke, so I was like, oh, that's funny. 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:29,360 And he was like, oh, I didn't notice. 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:35,360 And our our friend created a visual of Jolando and a lot of 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,800 friends wrote Jolando is hot. Yeah, exactly. 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,040 And I was like, OK, motherfucker, he's replacing me. 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:48,160 Yeah, he's replacing me. But yeah, let's start with the 12 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:50,800 outfit. I mean, today's episode will be 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,160 about casual stuff because I noticed that a lot of people are 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,760 digital. They are 01. 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,240 They are very formal, Yeah. Or they just don't care. 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,960 They have graphic T-shirts. They put something that they 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,280 think that it will be smart casual, but it's not. 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,320 Yeah. And actually I think that's what 19 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:12,520 is fun, is that when you're wearing something casual, you 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,040 put something that is a bit more intentional in it, a bit more 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,040 elevated. And when you have something that 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,320 is formal, you try to bring down to something that is a bit more 23 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:22,920 you, a bit more personal. Yeah, it's always, it's always 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,720 the thing that people will want. Don't they don't want to be so, 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,040 so stiff. Yeah. 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:32,040 So they do some crazy stuff, like maybe different stitching, 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,160 some crazy socks. That's not a good idea, but I 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,560 didn't say be yourself in that way. 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,040 But that Hockerty, you can have formal wear, you can have casual 30 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,200 suits. If you guys casual suits it it, 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:47,640 it exists. It's a thing. 32 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:54,120 And you have also, I have this, this shirt and the field jacket, 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,440 it's from Hockerty. And it's still made to measure. 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,040 Yeah. So it fits me properly. 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,000 Yeah, it's very nice and it's relaxed fabric. 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,680 It feels that there's some linen in it. 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,480 Yeah, it's linen. Yeah, that's very nice. 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,039 And myself, I'm wearing a linen jacket, also from Hockerty, in 39 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:12,200 darker brown colour. It's like a tobacco brown 40 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,360 almost. Exactly. 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:18,200 I think it looks very nice. It has this bit deep colour to 42 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,120 it, It has a nice texture and it's quite comfortable. 43 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,600 I mean, it's linen, of course, so. 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,880 Not yet wrinkled. No, not yet, but hopefully It's 45 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,200 getting wrinkled and that's what's nice about it. 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,760 Please enjoy. This wrinkle? 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,920 Enjoy. Enjoy linen. 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,040 It should be wrinkled, yeah. It should. 49 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,960 Live. And by the way, let's let's make 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,600 them participate. What? 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:44,200 What outfit do you prefer today? Yeah, Phil Jackett, more like 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,040 Robert De Niro from Taxi Driver or And remember. 53 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,680 How Robert De Niro ended in this film. 54 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,120 So do you prefer this crackhead or do you prefer? 55 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:58,080 But you know what? When I received the few years 56 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,080 ago, I was still married Back then I went to Gothenburg and I 57 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,840 received a collaboration film jacket. 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:10,080 OK, I'm not going to name the brand because we have a beef 59 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,600 right now, but no, I'm, I'm kidding. 60 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:20,960 But that day I tried to check if I will look good bald without 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,200 hair. So do you remember that photo 62 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:30,200 session with Vincent Cassell and Tina Konaki? 63 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,240 She was shaving his head. Oh, yeah. 64 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,120 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we did that also with my, 65 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,120 with my then wife, OK. And I shaved my head. 66 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,400 You did. And I wanted to to leave the 67 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:50,520 Eroka, the Yeah, yeah. The hair in the middle, the punk 68 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:56,040 and but my wife said no, but it would be really cool photo 69 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,920 shooting because I wore a shirt. I wore denim like today and I 70 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,080 had a field jacket because you know, we like a taxi driver like 71 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,640 Robert De Niro, a taxi driver. So that would be a cool. 72 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,280 And shades. Like, yeah, also I had shades. 73 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:16,920 Yeah, also, but never happened. So I but I also checked bus cut 74 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,480 after a few years because when I was in ground school that in 8th 75 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,880 class I used to wear bus cut because I was. 76 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,520 Sure, like Crisis 40 Crisis. No, I wasn't 40 back. 77 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,080 Then no, but no, you want it again. 78 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,960 Yeah, it's just nice, but I'm not going. 79 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,760 To I still I want to dye my hair blonde. 80 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,040 I was blonde at some point, it looked cool and everyone that 81 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,280 saw me like these are like you should do it again. 82 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:44,280 No, I'm the I don't have any 40 years crisis because my whole 83 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:47,360 life is a crisis. That's a secret, guys. 84 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,800 Your life should be a chaos. So then you don't see the chaos 85 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,280 anymore. Yeah, but about the casuals, 86 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:54,880 Yeah. Because we're not giving life 87 00:04:55,280 --> 00:04:57,560 life advices. As you can tell, we are better 88 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,520 in menswear. Yeah, menswear, Menswear is. 89 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,000 I hope the whole wears it better like this field jacket but also 90 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,280 casuals like. Yolando. 91 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,640 It's always, it should be always with a purpose. 92 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,640 You just don't put. A lot of guys, they're doing 93 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,080 that. They just take a suit jacket 94 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,360 from a suit, the formal suit, and they wear it with denim. 95 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,720 But you see that the the texture of denim is rougher than the the 96 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,760 than the woollen. Not woollen, worse than wool 97 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,880 jacket. That is just it's not an old 98 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,280 jacket. Old jacket. 99 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,320 Yeah, you use your jacket actually could be a suit jacket 100 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,080 and it would work. It could work, but I it's 101 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,680 because there are two things that have to be taken into 102 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,560 account. It's the fabric itself, so the 103 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,600 fabric should be rough enough to be worn along. 104 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,840 And the second thing is the proportions. 105 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,760 So if you have the right proportions. 106 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,960 So for example I like my jacket long even if those are sports 107 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,360 jackets, but then you need to have trousers that is long or 108 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,880 high rise and because my 5 pockets right now is quite high 109 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,920 then it works together. It's proportionate and the 110 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,360 colour match in a nice way. And also sometimes buttons can 111 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,480 say that it's a jacket from a suit when buttons are also Navy 112 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:16,800 the same. Yeah, exactly. 113 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,200 So then it will. It feels odd and you can feel it 114 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,280 right away. If it's it wouldn't work. 115 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,880 Also all the jackets should be more. 116 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,680 More texture, maybe different pattern, maybe more pattern, 117 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,840 more more visible pattern. It's a lot of time it's fabrics 118 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:37,440 that wouldn't even work with trousers because it would be too 119 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,240 fragile. Exactly I had I had few suits 120 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,360 that were made from a jacket fabric and I killed the trousers 121 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,640 in the crotch. Yeah, exactly. 122 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:52,040 Because there is too much open weave, then there's not enough 123 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,240 bonding to to keep the old fabric together. 124 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:03,320 I liked it I I just sewn in a different fabric in the crotch 125 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,920 so it it still works. OK, yeah. 126 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,120 I mean, yeah, you could still fix it, but yeah, it's super 127 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,600 fragile. And also those type of fabrics, 128 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,920 they are much more fluid. So they won't dress formal, they 129 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,000 won't keep the crease, They will be much more relaxed, which can 130 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,840 work, but you just need to be aware of it. 131 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,400 I mean, at Hockerty you can, you can choose a lot of old jackets. 132 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,360 Yeah, they have a different selection just for for 133 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,040 jacketing. Yeah, but I went for something 134 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,480 casual that has a military heritage field jacket, also with 135 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,320 palettes. Yeah, you can choose with the 136 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,040 palettes or without the palettes. 137 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,800 You can even have a field jacket with like regular lapels. 138 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,640 Yeah, it's more like Safari Jacket. 139 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,280 Looks a bit like a Teba Teba jacket. 140 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,240 You know the way they are cut right now. 141 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,240 The lappers, actually, it's because there are no real 142 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,640 lappers, no. No, no, it's a steak colour. 143 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,680 Yeah, exactly. But if you let it drop, it looks 144 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,480 a bit like a teba jacket. I've never worn actually a teba 145 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,520 jacket. A teba jacket is a very good 146 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:10,200 jacket for a odd jacket. It's very Spanish look and you, 147 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,120 you don't have like the notch exactly. 148 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,400 You don't have the notch here. So instead of having this little 149 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,240 hole, here you have. Like a sharp collar, almost. 150 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:21,800 Yeah, exactly. I. 151 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,280 Know, I know, I know what you mean. 152 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,240 I've seen it but it's not so popular. 153 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:30,920 Yeah, it's called the Teba Jacket Teba, and that can be a 154 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,039 cool way. I've never really tried it. 155 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:37,440 I've never been wanting to. Try and it will be more casual. 156 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,679 So exactly. So that can be very casual. 157 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,559 And so Okati is proposing diverse colors. 158 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:49,040 They are also proposing those Asian type of colors, a bit like 159 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,400 a male color, especially for jackets that can be a very cool. 160 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,240 Way, but with field jackets also. 161 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,120 You can wear, for example a field jacket even with a tie. 162 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,520 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 163 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,800 But we had this episode with John, actually, that you guys 164 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,920 already saw. And John was wearing a nice 165 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,720 military jacket with the shirt that was denim, I believe, in a 166 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,280 tie underneath. Yeah, it looks quite. 167 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,160 Cool. I mean this, this jacket, the 168 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,080 clothing. I choose zipper zipper, but you 169 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,240 can also choose just buttons. The buttons, yeah. 170 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,520 Yeah, I have both. That's very nice to have 171 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,200 different configuration actually. 172 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,840 But also Safa sorry, military jacket was made. 173 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:39,240 It was from rough material fabric that takes anything and 174 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:44,240 and and also a lot of pockets. And you know, a lot of guys, 175 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,160 they're wearing those, their trousers with full pockets. 176 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,000 They have in Sweden, they have, yeah, they have maybe 177 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,240 cigarettes, maybe keys, maybe wallet. 178 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,200 Here you have a lot. I mean, I'm a I'm a sucker for 179 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,880 pockets. I fucking love pockets. 180 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,920 You give me pockets, I'm happy. Yeah, and. 181 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,760 Obviously with there's nothing better than the military jacket. 182 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,720 And also it's the snap buttons. Yeah, and they are quite nice. 183 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,240 And not visible. You can choose the buttons that 184 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,720 are visible or invisible. And it's just fast. 185 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,320 You can have something here, you can have your, I don't know, 186 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,240 even your phone. Yeah, exactly. 187 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,760 You can use everything. And what is nice with those 188 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,160 casual garments is they're going to be a bit worn out by the 189 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,840 thing that you put in your pockets and that's what is nice. 190 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,200 So then they're going to get the patina based on the way you have 191 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,440 been wearing it. Because a lot, a lot of casual 192 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,840 stuff are where where came from military. 193 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,120 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So even then in fabric. 194 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,080 Was. Was supposed to be a tent 195 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,960 fabric. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 196 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,960 I have actually a tall jacket made of tent fabric from old 197 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,640 military tents from Russia actually. 198 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,840 That's, that's pretty cool. But yeah, I would say that 199 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,720 actually something that I thought about, I would say that 200 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,680 if you are wearing something more formal, the patina that you 201 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:09,160 get, you get it from the canvas because that's a canvassing, 202 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,160 especially if it's a full canvas that will age in a nicer way 203 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,920 that will take the shape of your body and make a smoother 204 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,280 appearance over time. And that's where the patina is 205 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,880 getting on the formal suit in a nice way, because it's discreet 206 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,240 and it's still going to look nice also. 207 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,960 Denim. Yeah, but yeah, but denims, it's 208 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,400 the other, it's the the casual side. 209 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,400 And that's what we love about more casual fabric, is that they 210 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,640 get the patina. Like denims is going to lose the 211 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,960 indigo over you wearing it. So you're always putting your 212 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,040 phone in this pocket, so it's gonna get a little hole in here. 213 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,520 But also is the thing with casual stuff that for example 214 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,200 here it's a very casual cup, but still at hooker you can choose 215 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,680 very fine fabrics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you. 216 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:58,400 Can also even where we were talking about made to measure 217 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,880 suits, but when for example, for me, it's sometimes it's a 218 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,560 struggle. I would like to have a vintage 219 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:06,240 jacket, but sometimes the the fit is very off. 220 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And here it's made, it's still 221 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,840 guys, it's made to measure. It's not ready to wear. 222 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,520 Yeah, exactly. So even though it's casual, it's 223 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,800 something that fits you very nice from the start, so you know 224 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,240 every time you wear it how it's going to be, you know what 225 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,040 you're going. To be, I mean, sometimes you can 226 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,200 make some mistakes, yeah, but go to a tailor then and then and 227 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,000 then adjust. And I would say. 228 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,200 And you learn with experience. Measure. 229 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:35,360 From my experience with that is that measure from something that 230 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,680 you carry at home. Don't try to figure it out from 231 00:12:38,680 --> 00:12:41,800 a blank thing or try to think this might work. 232 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,480 Measure some garments that you have at home that you like. 233 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,680 And if you want to modify, modify from this. 234 00:12:47,680 --> 00:12:51,120 If you feel I love it like this, maybe I can add the centimetre 235 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,760 here or there. Do it like from. 236 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,960 Something but also orkutty helps because they have this 237 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,840 Configurator that you put your sizes and it it can be helpful 238 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,760 for somebody that doesn't know which garment is perfect but 239 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,200 also you learn with experience. Exactly. 240 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,800 So it's better to take something bigger. 241 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,080 Yeah. But that's actually what's nice 242 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:16,080 about Orkutty is that they don't push you in a corner in terms of 243 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,320 style. So when you're a beginner, you 244 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,400 can learn with them. They are still going to try to 245 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,440 put you in a safe space. And if you want to go a bit 246 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,360 further on the configuration, on the look of things, then you can 247 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,360 reach out to them and you can ask them some advice. 248 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,400 Yeah. And you can, like I mentioned, 249 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,880 start from something that you measured yourself if you want to 250 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,840 go a bit further. It's even, it's even worse that 251 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,480 offline when you go to make to measure atelier, they give you 252 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,360 some kind of patterns sizing and then they create a different 253 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,200 sizes measurements from from from, not from scratch from some 254 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,840 reference. That's, that's my job basically 255 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:04,680 that's what I'm doing every day. So when you work with the Metoo 256 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:07,280 measure, they will always start from the pattern. 257 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,560 Usually it's something that has already been worked on by the 258 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,960 brand. So every brands have their own 259 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,880 pattern because they already worked on the cut to make them 260 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,400 something more personal. And from those pattern from the 261 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,800 brand, then they will adapt it to you. 262 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,880 But it needs to be adapted from something that exists from the 263 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,920 start. And I'm going to tell you, 264 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,560 although bespoke is making something completely for you, 265 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,680 which is of course a fantastic level of craftsmanship. 266 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:44,520 You can have something that is as nicely fitted as a bespoke 267 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,840 with a very nicely made, made to measure. 268 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,000 Because especially if your body is not too complex, you don't 269 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,280 really need to go bespoke to have something that is 270 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,360 fantastically fitted. And also, if you don't know how 271 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,960 this garment will look like at Hokerty, you have this 3D 272 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,760 Configurator. So you see, you do you'd make 273 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,360 the the changes. And I was like figuring out if I 274 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,480 want to have a lapels here or I just want to have this like more 275 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:16,760 more how it was in the beginning field jacket and also how pocket 276 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,480 what pockets I would like to have. 277 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,080 And also I love that you can see you can find everything there. 278 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,880 So you have suits, for example, if you want to have a suit to go 279 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,360 to work, but you also have something more for leisure. 280 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,520 Yeah, exactly. They're covering a very large 281 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,680 branch of the menswear wardrobes. 282 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,800 From the. Visual pieces. 283 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,640 So if you don't know what to wear, you can just go there and 284 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,880 one stop and you have everything. 285 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,440 But also how to how to dress casually so that it looks good 286 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:55,520 because it's still it it it can be AT shirt with some weird text 287 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,440 on it. But we, we kind of talked about 288 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,320 it. For me, the key element, the 289 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,280 most important thing is to be intentional. 290 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,520 So when you wear, you think even when they're casual, you when 291 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,760 I'm at home, I'm wearing casual stuff, but I could wear it 292 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,240 outside. I'm wearing a bit more workwear 293 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,640 stuff because that's how I'm feeling comfortable at home, but 294 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,760 it's there's still some intention behind. 295 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,080 And you can also find overshoots, for example at 296 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,920 Hockerty. Exactly, exactly. 297 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,400 So you could really find your own style in everything that 298 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,760 they are making and you can really make it your casual way, 299 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,120 I would say. And again, like we said 300 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,240 previously, it's a very good way of testing out, testing colours, 301 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:43,400 testing new fireworks, testing new style also that you didn't 302 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:48,760 add before. And yeah, I would say put a bit 303 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,160 of intention in what you're making in casual and then it's 304 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,200 going to look nice wider cut for. 305 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,360 Example I think. I think also the key how to 306 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:06,280 build a casual outfit is to take one piece that will that will 307 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:08,920 guide you towards what style you want. 308 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,119 To wear? Yeah, exactly. 309 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,160 So for example, if you want to, I don't know denim, you can go 310 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,839 denim, you can go go with cowboy boots. 311 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,680 Yeah. Then you cannot wear AI mean. 312 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,760 You could fill jacket with cowboy boots but I don't know 313 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:23,800 it. Could, but it's a bit more 314 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,839 advanced so you know that if you are doing this, you are you are 315 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:30,160 making it more personal. But for example, you took you 316 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:35,480 took this this Hockerty jacket and you took some shirt that has 317 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,680 there's also some kind of brown colour. 318 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,560 Yeah, exactly. And then the shirt is white. 319 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,760 So you took the denim and also belt. 320 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,760 You you choose black belt. Yeah. 321 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,280 And so not to have much and black shoes. 322 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:54,160 Yeah, exactly. So yeah, it's minimising also 323 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,520 the the number of colours can help you do wearing something 324 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,320 casual, but that looks a bit nice because being a bit more 325 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,680 minimalistic when you're a bit more casual feels it feels a bit 326 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,040 intentional because yeah, OK, I see that there has been some 327 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,720 some matching in the colours, you know, in the way that they 328 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,560 are complementary and they look good together. 329 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,880 But also you can take off the jacket and you will still look 330 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,880 good, it will still be full outfit. 331 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,400 Yeah, exactly. And just because I have eye rise 332 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,840 trousers, I will look intentional because there's 333 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,720 intention in all the different pieces. 334 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,400 And because my wardrobe has been built intentionally, then I can 335 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,360 wear anything. Sometimes we don't think about 336 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:36,520 it. Even when we dress for for the 337 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,520 podcast, we don't really think. About it and also those colours 338 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,680 they are complementing each other it's also like mine I have 339 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,880 I I think I have you know denim. Maybe this is not a colour that 340 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,360 you. No, actually you can find it in 341 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:54,720 the forest blue. Also whether you brown, brown 342 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,000 sand and the green. Yeah. 343 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,360 And here the outfit is made by the field jacket. 344 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,280 Yeah, maybe, maybe shoes could be different. 345 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,560 Maybe something less Ivy, more something like Chelsea boots or 346 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,800 maybe Chuck a boots something. Or maybe even boots. 347 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,000 Just the military boots. I have actually a question for 348 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:21,240 you on this because I I would say that myself, what makes me 349 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,560 gives me ID to where, Yeah, there are certain days, you 350 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,280 know, you prepared an outfit in like, oh, I'm so impatient to 351 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,800 wear this outfit that I prepared, but it's for a special 352 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,680 occasion, you know, but most of every day, sometimes you don't 353 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,840 even think about it and you don't want and you try to get 354 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,640 excited for one piece and then that's the this one piece that 355 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,760 will guide the rest of everything. 356 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:51,120 But how do you how do, if you plan those things in the 357 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:54,320 morning, do you also still get excited for an piece or because 358 00:19:54,320 --> 00:20:00,320 I'm feeling that all the time you want to get more your you go 359 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,600 to, you know, like so you uniform, you know. 360 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,280 I mean, I have some uniforms if I don't want to think about. 361 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,480 Yeah, it's too much. Wear anything there is. 362 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,840 Some days I don't want to wear anything. 363 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,880 I'm like. Yeah, I just have some dark 364 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,720 denims. Yeah, wider and then some. 365 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:19,840 I don't know when it's colder, it's gonna be turtleneck or just 366 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,000 like a crew neck or something. So you have those uniforms that 367 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,560 you it's your refugee like if you. 368 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,520 Don't. Sometimes I just don't have any 369 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,160 idea what I wanna wear. Yeah, but sometimes I just I 370 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,760 wanna wear this today and what could work with this and 371 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,280 sometimes I late to work. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 372 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,200 But that's also time is ticking in the morning. 373 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,640 You don't have like half an hour to figure out what you want. 374 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,040 To wear, but also sometimes I plan some outfit and then it 375 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,080 doesn't look good. So this 3D Configurator is very 376 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,400 helpful actually, because you can you can project and also you 377 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,400 can find some inspiration because Hockerty on Instagram 378 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,040 profile, they have a lot of different styles. 379 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:03,480 And lot of collaborations that will make you see how in very 380 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,800 different styles, actually how you can wear it and what type of 381 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,680 wardrobe you can build with that. 382 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,480 Like we mentioned before, we think that Orkut is a very nice 383 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:18,640 entrance level when you want to try something that you're in, 384 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:24,600 you're a bit on a budget and on a very wide range of styles. 385 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,160 Actually, we on the previous episode, we were wearing 386 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,440 something much more formal, especially on my side, I was 387 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,320 wearing it with a tie and so on, going all the way down to 388 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,960 something much more casual and. This and yeah, today, right now 389 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,800 I can wear it is very popular. Field jackets are very popular. 390 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you can, you can also level 391 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,640 it up to add some, some maybe tie. 392 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,640 Yeah. And the shirt. 393 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,160 And even nicer slacks. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 394 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:59,360 So it's really it gives you a lot of freedom on what piece you 395 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:01,480 want to try it with them, I would say. 396 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,000 And and the quality again is, is very nice. 397 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:11,160 I mean, this linen has a nice colour to it. 398 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:16,200 I mean, we went out to to have a short break and girls were like 399 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,040 home. Yeah, and but also there was a 400 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,600 Porsche and we were pretending that we were going to open it. 401 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,480 Yeah, that's. Another another thing. 402 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,000 But you see, we're wearing Ocoty and people could be fooled and 403 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,960 think that we're going to have this Porsche so. 404 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,840 Yes, but you know why? Because a lot of guys that owns 405 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,040 Porsche, it's her own. This whole of their identity, 406 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,280 they don't wear good clothes. They just have Porsche because, 407 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:47,160 you know, windows are tinted so you cannot see who's I would 408 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,920 have. I would have actually a cab 409 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,920 cabriolet. There's a guy that is parking in 410 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,440 my street in also all the time and he has a Lamborghini yellow 411 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,240 and his plate is written 8 me and I. 412 00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:02,280 The guy is actually living in the same building as me. 413 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,360 So I I mean it's probably one of his many apartments and I saw 414 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:13,000 his he looked like a small guy. I think he was Asian with some 415 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,480 big sunglasses like a DJ guy or something like. 416 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,560 This maybe he is a. Yeah, maybe a. 417 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,240 Taxi guy take a guy. Very. 418 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,520 I guess so, yeah. Apparently you don't dress like. 419 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,800 Yeah, we're taking subway so. Exactly. 420 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,520 Yeah, but hard drive is much more expensive than a Porsche if 421 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,360 you think about it, because the subway is quite pricey. 422 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,680 Yeah, and even the ticket in in Stockholm is pretty expensive. 423 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,520 Exactly. You could have I think you could 424 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,680 buy this jacket for for the price of the ticket monthly 425 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,400 ticket. Don't get the ticket and get to 426 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,440 OK. Yeah, just just walk. 427 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,640 Just walk one month and you can have a jacket that you can wear. 428 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,520 I mean in Sweden the the season to wear a field jacket is very 429 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,400 long. You can actually have it even 430 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,000 under a coat. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 431 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:08,960 It's a nice layer to have something a bit special that has 432 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:15,680 a bit character. I think with the military, where 433 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,760 usually it's a very cool way of adding a piece that is a bit 434 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,680 special, that's a bit different. Yeah, some military, but still 435 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,920 you can have a nice like a suit, trousers, a shirt and elevated. 436 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,760 Yeah, exactly. I mean, I love my. 437 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:36,600 I have also a field jacket but it's more like what's models 438 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,760 like tropical field jacket. Camouflage. 439 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,840 No, but the the jacket that I'm always wearing, you know, the 440 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:46,520 the green one. Jungle Jacket. 441 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,360 Yeah, exactly. Something like a jungle jacket? 442 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:51,960 I also have one. And I, I love to wear this 443 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,960 jungle jacket with something more formal. 444 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,880 It's like it looks super cool together. 445 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,080 I mean, it's a bit became a gimmick. 446 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,800 I mean, a lot of mental guys I. Wear I also love my jungle 447 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,640 jacket. And it's cool and it's for a 448 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,960 reason that so many guys it's. Also very comfortable. 449 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,240 It's longer, a lot of pockets. So many pockets you can put your 450 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:15,040 own home in those pockets. So more pockets nicer and here 451 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,520 in those ocoty actually you have quite a few. 452 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,160 So you have like the the the main pocket on the. 453 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,400 But also, you know that you can. You can order a jacket that 454 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,440 looks more like a safari jacket, a jacket suit jacket, but with 455 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,520 so many pockets. No, that's actually cool. 456 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,960 Yeah, that would be really cool to order. 457 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,000 And there's the lower pocket here. 458 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,640 I love this lower pocket. If you have keys and things like 459 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,320 this, this lower pocket is super useful for that. 460 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,320 They have even a pencil here and and yeah, 2 main pockets. 461 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,040 So quite a few pockets would invite you to use the outside 462 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,720 pockets unless you want. I like to have my hands in 463 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,360 outside pockets. Yeah, then. 464 00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:59,560 But as long as it's very. Yeah. 465 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,280 To this, to those two guys in in Italy, they, they have been 466 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,960 taking pictures so many times, like with big beard and they are 467 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,120 always like pushing their hands at the very bottom of their 468 00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:14,400 suits, like ready to show that they are using them. 469 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,760 You know, that's all right. That's quite fun. 470 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,560 But yeah, to use with caution, I would say. 471 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,200 OK hold on, but what garments would you recommend to have in 472 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,520 your wardrobe for a casual? Maybe not smart casual, but just 473 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,520 casual but still looking dapper? Field Jacket. 474 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:40,920 Panties and oh sorry my bad. Now you also need to have. 475 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,600 Maybe Hockerty will have them. Exactly mid to mirror panties. 476 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,080 You know that actually it's a good idea. 477 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,360 I had a collab with one brand that you could choose the length 478 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,400 of boxers. That's actually pretty cool. 479 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,160 Imagine. Imagine for example. 480 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,640 Struggling to find longer lengths. 481 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,120 Exactly because I have pretty, pretty big ties. 482 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,200 And also for winter, you know, how much warmer is it if you 483 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,640 have if you have long ankle socks and long boxers, then just 484 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,720 your knees not not covered. Yeah, actually not. 485 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,480 But also I think it's super convenient when I mean like we 486 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,160 are talking about something different, but I think when you 487 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,240 have a longer rise in the trousers and you have a bit more 488 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,760 space in the crotch, sometimes it it can be a bit 489 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,920 discomfortable at the end of the day. 490 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:38,120 So when it's longer, yeah, it. Can you can get even some 491 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,320 bruises? Exactly. 492 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,960 Some irritation. Irritation. 493 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,840 Exactly. So yeah. 494 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,280 That's why the guys go made to measure. 495 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,600 You see, we can even joke about panties and start talking. 496 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,320 But. Yeah, everything goes to Made to 497 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,480 Measure to this day, and they probably exist. 498 00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,320 Yeah, that's awesome. Whatever this button is actually 499 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,840 doing. But yeah, I mean. 500 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,160 Still the sound is on. Oh shit, yeah, OK now and now I 501 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,920 can tell no. No, I don't think it's on. 502 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,880 Sorry. No, it's not. 503 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,520 No, it's not. No, it's not another one. 504 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,200 No. OK, to summarize what garments 505 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:26,120 you should have in your wardrobe 321 go ahead. 506 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,000 You should wear denims. I would say denim. 507 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,240 Nice denims actually. But for summer it's a bit too 508 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,080 thick. But not in Scandinavia. 509 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,040 You can, yeah. Not in Scandinavia. 510 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,920 You can have lighter denims also, yeah. 511 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,520 I don't like lighter denims because they they are not so 512 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,320 stiff that the drape is not the same. 513 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,760 No, but I would say you can go as low as 11 OS and you still 514 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,080 have something that is consistent enough and it's not 515 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,920 super warm. I mean we are talking something 516 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,440 that you can wear up above 25° and you are not going to die. 517 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:11,440 But yeah, so denims, of course, I would say we, we don't talk 518 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,320 about it so much, but I would say good, nice T-shirt. 519 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,240 It can be cool actually. Good nice T-shirt with the iris 520 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,200 trousers. More dressed down. 521 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,040 More dressed up it can look super cool. 522 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,640 I I love white T-shirt. I'm wearing white T-shirt all 523 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,440 the time. I would I would add Henley 524 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,200 because I I became a big fan. Of Henley's, yeah. 525 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,960 Of Henley's. It's cool they. 526 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,560 Just look. I mean, a lot of girls even say 527 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,960 that they look sexy. Yeah, yeah, because they have 528 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,680 this like a bit more image of the guy like you don't. 529 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,000 Care. Maybe you just like you. 530 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,320 Just do something with your motorbike. 531 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,680 And the guy you know, like it gives disappearance. 532 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,080 I don't know, a nice white T-shirt can also give it. 533 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:59,760 I think especially if you are a bit fit, a nice white T-shirt, 534 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,760 that's the only piece where I think it's acceptable to have it 535 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,800 a bit closer to your body because it's supposed to be like 536 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,640 underwear. So it's still it's more 537 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,040 acceptable. Not too tight, not too short 538 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,200 sleeves I would say. No, exactly. 539 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,360 Not too short sleeve, still good proportions and you shouldn't 540 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,320 feel. You shouldn't feel that it's too 541 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,960 tight, even if it's a bit closer to your body maybe. 542 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,920 Looser on your on your belly. Yeah, exactly. 543 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,200 Bit looser, not too tight either, you know, but that that 544 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,960 is acceptable. And there, there that, that can 545 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,720 be a very nice look actually, I would say. 546 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,760 And like outerwear, jackets feels safari. 547 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,760 Jackets. Safari for everyone. 548 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,120 Chore jacket would be cool. Chore jacket. 549 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,160 I love my chore jacket like a blue. 550 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,840 See if you want to introduce a bit lighter colours. 551 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,320 Lighter blue tall jacket is like a big big classic. 552 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,680 Thick fabric. Thick fabric. 553 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,120 It's going to be some canvas. Like yeah, cotton canvas. 554 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,080 It's nice even when when it's when it's Navy or blue, Yeah, 555 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,400 when you have some kind of it's worn out. 556 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,560 Yeah, exactly. So someone and or just you wear 557 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,600 it all with time, you know? Even even put it on the sun or 558 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,400 something. Yeah, yeah, actually. 559 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:23,000 But that's how I actually, I had a shirt like this that was on 560 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,400 the shelves for years and years. And then when I started wearing 561 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,720 it, it was like. Yeah, I ask you why? 562 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,880 What is it? Yeah. 563 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,200 And I loved it because of this, because it just aged. 564 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,240 It got it patina by itself, and I was. 565 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,720 Said also that maybe order some trench coat. 566 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,320 Yeah nice nice coat even. I mean coats they work with with 567 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,360 casual wear as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 568 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:54,120 I'm wearing my, I have a trench made of, of cotton that is not 569 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,000 too thick, bit thicker material and, and I love it. 570 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:04,560 I I it's like a typical beige, like the bit greyish beige. 571 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,160 Yeah, super, super nice. Yeah, exactly. 572 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,240 Khakis very. But yeah. 573 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,280 But actually talking about khakis like, chinos like. 574 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,720 Yeah, exactly. Chinos, classic chinos. 575 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,000 And also I would say that go for a casual suit and all the jacket 576 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,120 that you can, you can wear for for different for different 577 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,240 season, because for example, in winter it will be more tweets. 578 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,160 Yeah for summer, maybe some linen wool blend, something like 579 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,120 that. Maybe Czech, maybe I don't know 580 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,200 with. Pattern. 581 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,320 They actually have that on Orkuti. 582 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,360 They have nice tweets. They are changing. 583 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,120 The window pane also. Yeah, exactly. 584 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,880 So yeah. Some nice shirts, button down 585 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,800 shirts. Blazer, A nice blazer with the 586 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,280 buttons, you know, I mean, they can be gold. 587 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,520 I like them a bit more torn down, so you could choose an 588 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,040 option that is maybe less in your face, but honestly a nice 589 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,560 blazer. It's midnight blue, but it you 590 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,440 can wear it in a very relaxed way. 591 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,240 If it's double breasted, it it's even cooler when you leave it 592 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,040 open. Then it's super laid back. 593 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,680 That's for me a very nice, super useful and easy to pair with 594 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,440 anything that we talked about before. 595 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,240 And also some nice loafers. You can also order custom made. 596 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,760 I wouldn't say made to measure because in loafers you cannot 597 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,960 change that much. It's still. 598 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,440 Don't take them to lose from the start because they are going to 599 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,320 open up and if you want them to hang on your feet, you're going 600 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,440 to have to suffer if you wear. And also at Hocker tea you can 601 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,160 choose if you want to have leather sole or rubber sole. 602 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,480 Yeah, I would. Honestly I would advise to go 603 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,680 for rubber sole. Yeah, if you prefer it, yeah, if 604 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,360 you don't have, if you don't have low ferrets in your 605 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,320 wardrobe, then just go for rubber, because then you can use 606 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,920 it even during winter. Much more comfortable. 607 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:57,160 When it's not too much wear. And also I got used to because 608 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:03,120 with the ladder, it bonds a bit more on the ground and it's you 609 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,760 have more like how to say that like on the car, you know, like 610 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,120 a suspension. Yeah, suspension. 611 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,280 So then it absorbs more the shock when you are walking. 612 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,040 So it's more comfortable with the. 613 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,120 I mean, if you like even sport shoes, you can go with some 614 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,639 sneakers. We are not big fan. 615 00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:27,159 But yeah, if you if you are not a suit guy, some nice sneakers, 616 00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:30,159 some. Some nice sneakers can be OK I 617 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,320 think. Just very simple. 618 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,080 Very simple, exactly very simple. 619 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,159 I mean, I mean we are not talking about if we go to the 620 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,360 gym, we don't care. We our our self wearing very 621 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,840 sporty garments when we are using them for to run. 622 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,960 You have runners that are multi colour and that's. 623 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,719 That I actually love running clothes because you can wear so 624 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,760 random colours and they still look good. 625 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,520 Exactly. So we are not saying that we're 626 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,880 against those. We are saying about in this 627 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,360 context. And I would say there was this 628 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,880 New Balance trend that was very strong in Asia, for example, 629 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,680 where we would cash or wear. So instead of loafers, they 630 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,080 would wear this style of of shoes? 631 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,120 Yeah. It works, but that's a different 632 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,760 level if you if you want to start with something you can 633 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,000 order like white leather sneakers or maybe some dark 634 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,280 suede with white sole. Simple. 635 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,000 You are at it, the price is not so expensive, so it's a good 636 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,120 opportunity to actually trial of. 637 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,400 In some different different shirts you can go with button 638 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,880 down Oxford button down shirt you can go with some linen 639 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,600 shirts, you can go with something I would recommend 640 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,800 totally this linen from Hockerty button down, but very nice 641 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,600 texture, very nice colour, fits with even some lighter outfits. 642 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,960 It would fit even with your outfit. 643 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,800 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. 644 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,480 Very nice, very very nice colour. 645 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,320 I I, I love this tone. Yeah, it's beautiful. 1 So no, 646 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,200 but I would say, well, I kind of rounding up, of course you 647 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,640 usually want to, we talk a bit about accessories. 648 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,280 You want to match a bit, maybe have a watch that is a bit more 649 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,480 dressed down, a bit more sporty. It needs to be coherent. 650 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,160 Basically your outfit. What I would add for example 651 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,720 that Hockerty some socks even that you can buy socks that you 652 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:29,720 can go with everything. They they can a lot. 653 00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:33,160 Of guys are struggling to find no show socks or maybe nice 654 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,920 socks that you can wear with loafers. 655 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,120 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be something cool to 656 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,520 add maybe. And honestly, so today usually 657 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,040 I'm wearing socks and today it's it's because I forgot my socks. 658 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:51,280 But but I must say that imagine that I'm in in Italy actually 659 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,720 having no show socks. I would always wear socks. 660 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,000 To be honest, even if I wear it like this, I would still have 661 00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:04,600 socks that are invisible socks. Yeah, it's just hygiene also. 662 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:07,720 Exactly, so I would all wear wear socks with shoes. 663 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,280 Maybe not with both shoes because those are made to wear 664 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,760 sockless, yeah. That is something specific then, 665 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,000 yeah. But then yeah, especially there 666 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,520 are certain brands where we are more on Orkutty, but we can 667 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,480 still say how the brands that are that what Orkutty is not 668 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:31,680 making the GH base, GH bus, they are actually making very nice 669 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,520 both shoes that are super comfortable. 670 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,360 And then I couldn't actually wear socks in it because I 671 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,800 could, but it's not as comfortable because it's really 672 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:45,120 meant to shave your feet. But but yeah, it's not 673 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,720 completely correct to do to do this, but with invisible socks 674 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:52,800 it would be better. It's a controversial subject you 675 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,840 can wear when it's. Warm. 676 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,840 I mean, it's super warm. You don't. 677 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,000 You don't wear a suit right now. No exactly. 678 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,640 I mean much more laid back configuration. 679 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,840 Sorry if guys if you are triggered by but my they. 680 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,440 Can be also triggered by my white socks. 681 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,760 Yeah, it's more Ivy. Yeah, you have had some comments 682 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,160 about your white socks. It's crazy because. 683 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,520 And I had. A white shoes sometimes, to be 684 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,520 honest, we are we're in this we we we love menswear. 685 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,080 We find it super cool and it's a nice topic. 686 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,800 We are a bit gigging around those things, but I don't care 687 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,720 so much to comment that the guy that why? 688 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,640 Why are you doing with your White Sox like? 689 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,760 I mean, yeah, guys don't listen to. 690 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,200 Your, that's your fight. I mean, that's, that's what I 691 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,520 want to say. Is this your fight in your life? 692 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:46,520 White Sox. Yeah, I mean White Sox even now. 693 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,560 Just not for the socks. Not on those. 694 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,920 But there's a Michael Jackson movie nowadays. 695 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,800 Yeah, White socks, I think. White white socks are coming 696 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,120 back. Yeah, exactly. 697 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,520 So guys, what are your go to casual outfits? 698 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,600 Give us a leave us a comment and. 699 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,560 Send us pictures also. Again send us picture of your 700 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,400 typical, your classic because we want to share them. 701 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,120 We want to share what you are doing also and maybe we can give 702 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,240 our opinion on it's like what we like. 703 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,040 Send us your outfits, we're going to roast you exactly. 704 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,800 I was exactly about to say that we are not going to roast you, 705 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,400 but we're. Going to Yeah, we're going to 706 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,840 roast you if you want. Just just when you want. 707 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,640 Yeah, and and you know us, we're gentle. 708 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,520 Of course, very, very, very gentle. 709 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,760 OK, guys that. Was a ramp yeah, that's a ramp. 710 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,680 So please share follow us on different socials. 711 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,720 We are always doing a lot of things on on Instagram that you 712 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:48,000 won't see anywhere else and and participate comment. 713 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,600 We have so many of you that talks with us in the streets or 714 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,240 I thought work and reach out to us and like, oh, I don't dare to 715 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,160 you should. It's a it's a community. 716 00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:02,400 So and see you in Florence also at PT if you're if you're 717 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,080 coming. Yeah, please do reach us out. 718 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:05,720 Bye. Bye.