In today's episode of Jolando and Jolano.
You. You guys, that was a funny thing
because I just miss misspelled wrote wrongly your name because
I just edited and in a HRGPT Yeah, and then it from Jordan it
became Jolando. Yeah, and I thought it was a
joke, so I was like, oh, that's funny.
And he was like, oh, I didn't notice.
And our our friend created a visual of Jolando and a lot of
friends wrote Jolando is hot. Yeah, exactly.
And I was like, OK, motherfucker, he's replacing me.
Yeah, he's replacing me. But yeah, let's start with the
outfit. I mean, today's episode will be
about casual stuff because I noticed that a lot of people are
digital. They are 01.
They are very formal, Yeah. Or they just don't care.
They have graphic T-shirts. They put something that they
think that it will be smart casual, but it's not.
Yeah. And actually I think that's what
is fun, is that when you're wearing something casual, you
put something that is a bit more intentional in it, a bit more
elevated. And when you have something that
is formal, you try to bring down to something that is a bit more
you, a bit more personal. Yeah, it's always, it's always
the thing that people will want. Don't they don't want to be so,
so stiff. Yeah.
So they do some crazy stuff, like maybe different stitching,
some crazy socks. That's not a good idea, but I
didn't say be yourself in that way.
But that Hockerty, you can have formal wear, you can have casual
suits. If you guys casual suits it it,
it exists. It's a thing.
And you have also, I have this, this shirt and the field jacket,
it's from Hockerty. And it's still made to measure.
Yeah. So it fits me properly.
Yeah, it's very nice and it's relaxed fabric.
It feels that there's some linen in it.
Yeah, it's linen. Yeah, that's very nice.
And myself, I'm wearing a linen jacket, also from Hockerty, in
darker brown colour. It's like a tobacco brown
almost. Exactly.
I think it looks very nice. It has this bit deep colour to
it, It has a nice texture and it's quite comfortable.
I mean, it's linen, of course, so.
Not yet wrinkled. No, not yet, but hopefully It's
getting wrinkled and that's what's nice about it.
Please enjoy. This wrinkle?
Enjoy. Enjoy linen.
It should be wrinkled, yeah. It should.
Live. And by the way, let's let's make
them participate. What?
What outfit do you prefer today? Yeah, Phil Jackett, more like
Robert De Niro from Taxi Driver or And remember.
How Robert De Niro ended in this film.
So do you prefer this crackhead or do you prefer?
But you know what? When I received the few years
ago, I was still married Back then I went to Gothenburg and I
received a collaboration film jacket.
OK, I'm not going to name the brand because we have a beef
right now, but no, I'm, I'm kidding.
But that day I tried to check if I will look good bald without
hair. So do you remember that photo
session with Vincent Cassell and Tina Konaki?
She was shaving his head. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we did that also with my,
with my then wife, OK. And I shaved my head.
You did. And I wanted to to leave the
Eroka, the Yeah, yeah. The hair in the middle, the punk
and but my wife said no, but it would be really cool photo
shooting because I wore a shirt. I wore denim like today and I
had a field jacket because you know, we like a taxi driver like
Robert De Niro, a taxi driver. So that would be a cool.
And shades. Like, yeah, also I had shades.
Yeah, also, but never happened. So I but I also checked bus cut
after a few years because when I was in ground school that in 8th
class I used to wear bus cut because I was.
Sure, like Crisis 40 Crisis. No, I wasn't 40 back.
Then no, but no, you want it again.
Yeah, it's just nice, but I'm not going.
To I still I want to dye my hair blonde.
I was blonde at some point, it looked cool and everyone that
saw me like these are like you should do it again.
No, I'm the I don't have any 40 years crisis because my whole
life is a crisis. That's a secret, guys.
Your life should be a chaos. So then you don't see the chaos
anymore. Yeah, but about the casuals,
Yeah. Because we're not giving life
life advices. As you can tell, we are better
in menswear. Yeah, menswear, Menswear is.
I hope the whole wears it better like this field jacket but also
casuals like. Yolando.
It's always, it should be always with a purpose.
You just don't put. A lot of guys, they're doing
that. They just take a suit jacket
from a suit, the formal suit, and they wear it with denim.
But you see that the the texture of denim is rougher than the the
than the woollen. Not woollen, worse than wool
jacket. That is just it's not an old
jacket. Old jacket.
Yeah, you use your jacket actually could be a suit jacket
and it would work. It could work, but I it's
because there are two things that have to be taken into
account. It's the fabric itself, so the
fabric should be rough enough to be worn along.
And the second thing is the proportions.
So if you have the right proportions.
So for example I like my jacket long even if those are sports
jackets, but then you need to have trousers that is long or
high rise and because my 5 pockets right now is quite high
then it works together. It's proportionate and the
colour match in a nice way. And also sometimes buttons can
say that it's a jacket from a suit when buttons are also Navy
the same. Yeah, exactly.
So then it will. It feels odd and you can feel it
right away. If it's it wouldn't work.
Also all the jackets should be more.
More texture, maybe different pattern, maybe more pattern,
more more visible pattern. It's a lot of time it's fabrics
that wouldn't even work with trousers because it would be too
fragile. Exactly I had I had few suits
that were made from a jacket fabric and I killed the trousers
in the crotch. Yeah, exactly.
Because there is too much open weave, then there's not enough
bonding to to keep the old fabric together.
I liked it I I just sewn in a different fabric in the crotch
so it it still works. OK, yeah.
I mean, yeah, you could still fix it, but yeah, it's super
fragile. And also those type of fabrics,
they are much more fluid. So they won't dress formal, they
won't keep the crease, They will be much more relaxed, which can
work, but you just need to be aware of it.
I mean, at Hockerty you can, you can choose a lot of old jackets.
Yeah, they have a different selection just for for
jacketing. Yeah, but I went for something
casual that has a military heritage field jacket, also with
palettes. Yeah, you can choose with the
palettes or without the palettes.
You can even have a field jacket with like regular lapels.
Yeah, it's more like Safari Jacket.
Looks a bit like a Teba Teba jacket.
You know the way they are cut right now.
The lappers, actually, it's because there are no real
lappers, no. No, no, it's a steak colour.
Yeah, exactly. But if you let it drop, it looks
a bit like a teba jacket. I've never worn actually a teba
jacket. A teba jacket is a very good
jacket for a odd jacket. It's very Spanish look and you,
you don't have like the notch exactly.
You don't have the notch here. So instead of having this little
hole, here you have. Like a sharp collar, almost.
Yeah, exactly. I.
Know, I know, I know what you mean.
I've seen it but it's not so popular.
Yeah, it's called the Teba Jacket Teba, and that can be a
cool way. I've never really tried it.
I've never been wanting to. Try and it will be more casual.
So exactly. So that can be very casual.
And so Okati is proposing diverse colors.
They are also proposing those Asian type of colors, a bit like
a male color, especially for jackets that can be a very cool.
Way, but with field jackets also.
You can wear, for example a field jacket even with a tie.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
But we had this episode with John, actually, that you guys
already saw. And John was wearing a nice
military jacket with the shirt that was denim, I believe, in a
tie underneath. Yeah, it looks quite.
Cool. I mean this, this jacket, the
clothing. I choose zipper zipper, but you
can also choose just buttons. The buttons, yeah.
Yeah, I have both. That's very nice to have
different configuration actually.
But also Safa sorry, military jacket was made.
It was from rough material fabric that takes anything and
and and also a lot of pockets. And you know, a lot of guys,
they're wearing those, their trousers with full pockets.
They have in Sweden, they have, yeah, they have maybe
cigarettes, maybe keys, maybe wallet.
Here you have a lot. I mean, I'm a I'm a sucker for
pockets. I fucking love pockets.
You give me pockets, I'm happy. Yeah, and.
Obviously with there's nothing better than the military jacket.
And also it's the snap buttons. Yeah, and they are quite nice.
And not visible. You can choose the buttons that
are visible or invisible. And it's just fast.
You can have something here, you can have your, I don't know,
even your phone. Yeah, exactly.
You can use everything. And what is nice with those
casual garments is they're going to be a bit worn out by the
thing that you put in your pockets and that's what is nice.
So then they're going to get the patina based on the way you have
been wearing it. Because a lot, a lot of casual
stuff are where where came from military.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So even then in fabric.
Was. Was supposed to be a tent
fabric. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I have actually a tall jacket made of tent fabric from old
military tents from Russia actually.
That's, that's pretty cool. But yeah, I would say that
actually something that I thought about, I would say that
if you are wearing something more formal, the patina that you
get, you get it from the canvas because that's a canvassing,
especially if it's a full canvas that will age in a nicer way
that will take the shape of your body and make a smoother
appearance over time. And that's where the patina is
getting on the formal suit in a nice way, because it's discreet
and it's still going to look nice also.
Denim. Yeah, but yeah, but denims, it's
the other, it's the the casual side.
And that's what we love about more casual fabric, is that they
get the patina. Like denims is going to lose the
indigo over you wearing it. So you're always putting your
phone in this pocket, so it's gonna get a little hole in here.
But also is the thing with casual stuff that for example
here it's a very casual cup, but still at hooker you can choose
very fine fabrics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you.
Can also even where we were talking about made to measure
suits, but when for example, for me, it's sometimes it's a
struggle. I would like to have a vintage
jacket, but sometimes the the fit is very off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And here it's made, it's still
guys, it's made to measure. It's not ready to wear.
Yeah, exactly. So even though it's casual, it's
something that fits you very nice from the start, so you know
every time you wear it how it's going to be, you know what
you're going. To be, I mean, sometimes you can
make some mistakes, yeah, but go to a tailor then and then and
then adjust. And I would say.
And you learn with experience. Measure.
From my experience with that is that measure from something that
you carry at home. Don't try to figure it out from
a blank thing or try to think this might work.
Measure some garments that you have at home that you like.
And if you want to modify, modify from this.
If you feel I love it like this, maybe I can add the centimetre
here or there. Do it like from.
Something but also orkutty helps because they have this
Configurator that you put your sizes and it it can be helpful
for somebody that doesn't know which garment is perfect but
also you learn with experience. Exactly.
So it's better to take something bigger.
Yeah. But that's actually what's nice
about Orkutty is that they don't push you in a corner in terms of
style. So when you're a beginner, you
can learn with them. They are still going to try to
put you in a safe space. And if you want to go a bit
further on the configuration, on the look of things, then you can
reach out to them and you can ask them some advice.
Yeah. And you can, like I mentioned,
start from something that you measured yourself if you want to
go a bit further. It's even, it's even worse that
offline when you go to make to measure atelier, they give you
some kind of patterns sizing and then they create a different
sizes measurements from from from, not from scratch from some
reference. That's, that's my job basically
that's what I'm doing every day. So when you work with the Metoo
measure, they will always start from the pattern.
Usually it's something that has already been worked on by the
brand. So every brands have their own
pattern because they already worked on the cut to make them
something more personal. And from those pattern from the
brand, then they will adapt it to you.
But it needs to be adapted from something that exists from the
start. And I'm going to tell you,
although bespoke is making something completely for you,
which is of course a fantastic level of craftsmanship.
You can have something that is as nicely fitted as a bespoke
with a very nicely made, made to measure.
Because especially if your body is not too complex, you don't
really need to go bespoke to have something that is
fantastically fitted. And also, if you don't know how
this garment will look like at Hokerty, you have this 3D
Configurator. So you see, you do you'd make
the the changes. And I was like figuring out if I
want to have a lapels here or I just want to have this like more
more how it was in the beginning field jacket and also how pocket
what pockets I would like to have.
And also I love that you can see you can find everything there.
So you have suits, for example, if you want to have a suit to go
to work, but you also have something more for leisure.
Yeah, exactly. They're covering a very large
branch of the menswear wardrobes.
From the. Visual pieces.
So if you don't know what to wear, you can just go there and
one stop and you have everything.
But also how to how to dress casually so that it looks good
because it's still it it it can be AT shirt with some weird text
on it. But we, we kind of talked about
it. For me, the key element, the
most important thing is to be intentional.
So when you wear, you think even when they're casual, you when
I'm at home, I'm wearing casual stuff, but I could wear it
outside. I'm wearing a bit more workwear
stuff because that's how I'm feeling comfortable at home, but
it's there's still some intention behind.
And you can also find overshoots, for example at
Hockerty. Exactly, exactly.
So you could really find your own style in everything that
they are making and you can really make it your casual way,
I would say. And again, like we said
previously, it's a very good way of testing out, testing colours,
testing new fireworks, testing new style also that you didn't
add before. And yeah, I would say put a bit
of intention in what you're making in casual and then it's
going to look nice wider cut for.
Example I think. I think also the key how to
build a casual outfit is to take one piece that will that will
guide you towards what style you want.
To wear? Yeah, exactly.
So for example, if you want to, I don't know denim, you can go
denim, you can go go with cowboy boots.
Yeah. Then you cannot wear AI mean.
You could fill jacket with cowboy boots but I don't know
it. Could, but it's a bit more
advanced so you know that if you are doing this, you are you are
making it more personal. But for example, you took you
took this this Hockerty jacket and you took some shirt that has
there's also some kind of brown colour.
Yeah, exactly. And then the shirt is white.
So you took the denim and also belt.
You you choose black belt. Yeah.
And so not to have much and black shoes.
Yeah, exactly. So yeah, it's minimising also
the the number of colours can help you do wearing something
casual, but that looks a bit nice because being a bit more
minimalistic when you're a bit more casual feels it feels a bit
intentional because yeah, OK, I see that there has been some
some matching in the colours, you know, in the way that they
are complementary and they look good together.
But also you can take off the jacket and you will still look
good, it will still be full outfit.
Yeah, exactly. And just because I have eye rise
trousers, I will look intentional because there's
intention in all the different pieces.
And because my wardrobe has been built intentionally, then I can
wear anything. Sometimes we don't think about
it. Even when we dress for for the
podcast, we don't really think. About it and also those colours
they are complementing each other it's also like mine I have
I I think I have you know denim. Maybe this is not a colour that
you. No, actually you can find it in
the forest blue. Also whether you brown, brown
sand and the green. Yeah.
And here the outfit is made by the field jacket.
Yeah, maybe, maybe shoes could be different.
Maybe something less Ivy, more something like Chelsea boots or
maybe Chuck a boots something. Or maybe even boots.
Just the military boots. I have actually a question for
you on this because I I would say that myself, what makes me
gives me ID to where, Yeah, there are certain days, you
know, you prepared an outfit in like, oh, I'm so impatient to
wear this outfit that I prepared, but it's for a special
occasion, you know, but most of every day, sometimes you don't
even think about it and you don't want and you try to get
excited for one piece and then that's the this one piece that
will guide the rest of everything.
But how do you how do, if you plan those things in the
morning, do you also still get excited for an piece or because
I'm feeling that all the time you want to get more your you go
to, you know, like so you uniform, you know.
I mean, I have some uniforms if I don't want to think about.
Yeah, it's too much. Wear anything there is.
Some days I don't want to wear anything.
I'm like. Yeah, I just have some dark
denims. Yeah, wider and then some.
I don't know when it's colder, it's gonna be turtleneck or just
like a crew neck or something. So you have those uniforms that
you it's your refugee like if you.
Don't. Sometimes I just don't have any
idea what I wanna wear. Yeah, but sometimes I just I
wanna wear this today and what could work with this and
sometimes I late to work. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
But that's also time is ticking in the morning.
You don't have like half an hour to figure out what you want.
To wear, but also sometimes I plan some outfit and then it
doesn't look good. So this 3D Configurator is very
helpful actually, because you can you can project and also you
can find some inspiration because Hockerty on Instagram
profile, they have a lot of different styles.
And lot of collaborations that will make you see how in very
different styles, actually how you can wear it and what type of
wardrobe you can build with that.
Like we mentioned before, we think that Orkut is a very nice
entrance level when you want to try something that you're in,
you're a bit on a budget and on a very wide range of styles.
Actually, we on the previous episode, we were wearing
something much more formal, especially on my side, I was
wearing it with a tie and so on, going all the way down to
something much more casual and. This and yeah, today, right now
I can wear it is very popular. Field jackets are very popular.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you can, you can also level
it up to add some, some maybe tie.
Yeah. And the shirt.
And even nicer slacks. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So it's really it gives you a lot of freedom on what piece you
want to try it with them, I would say.
And and the quality again is, is very nice.
I mean, this linen has a nice colour to it.
I mean, we went out to to have a short break and girls were like
home. Yeah, and but also there was a
Porsche and we were pretending that we were going to open it.
Yeah, that's. Another another thing.
But you see, we're wearing Ocoty and people could be fooled and
think that we're going to have this Porsche so.
Yes, but you know why? Because a lot of guys that owns
Porsche, it's her own. This whole of their identity,
they don't wear good clothes. They just have Porsche because,
you know, windows are tinted so you cannot see who's I would
have. I would have actually a cab
cabriolet. There's a guy that is parking in
my street in also all the time and he has a Lamborghini yellow
and his plate is written 8 me and I.
The guy is actually living in the same building as me.
So I I mean it's probably one of his many apartments and I saw
his he looked like a small guy. I think he was Asian with some
big sunglasses like a DJ guy or something like.
This maybe he is a. Yeah, maybe a.
Taxi guy take a guy. Very.
I guess so, yeah. Apparently you don't dress like.
Yeah, we're taking subway so. Exactly.
Yeah, but hard drive is much more expensive than a Porsche if
you think about it, because the subway is quite pricey.
Yeah, and even the ticket in in Stockholm is pretty expensive.
Exactly. You could have I think you could
buy this jacket for for the price of the ticket monthly
ticket. Don't get the ticket and get to
OK. Yeah, just just walk.
Just walk one month and you can have a jacket that you can wear.
I mean in Sweden the the season to wear a field jacket is very
long. You can actually have it even
under a coat. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It's a nice layer to have something a bit special that has
a bit character. I think with the military, where
usually it's a very cool way of adding a piece that is a bit
special, that's a bit different. Yeah, some military, but still
you can have a nice like a suit, trousers, a shirt and elevated.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, I love my.
I have also a field jacket but it's more like what's models
like tropical field jacket. Camouflage.
No, but the the jacket that I'm always wearing, you know, the
the green one. Jungle Jacket.
Yeah, exactly. Something like a jungle jacket?
I also have one. And I, I love to wear this
jungle jacket with something more formal.
It's like it looks super cool together.
I mean, it's a bit became a gimmick.
I mean, a lot of mental guys I. Wear I also love my jungle
jacket. And it's cool and it's for a
reason that so many guys it's. Also very comfortable.
It's longer, a lot of pockets. So many pockets you can put your
own home in those pockets. So more pockets nicer and here
in those ocoty actually you have quite a few.
So you have like the the the main pocket on the.
But also, you know that you can. You can order a jacket that
looks more like a safari jacket, a jacket suit jacket, but with
so many pockets. No, that's actually cool.
Yeah, that would be really cool to order.
And there's the lower pocket here.
I love this lower pocket. If you have keys and things like
this, this lower pocket is super useful for that.
They have even a pencil here and and yeah, 2 main pockets.
So quite a few pockets would invite you to use the outside
pockets unless you want. I like to have my hands in
outside pockets. Yeah, then.
But as long as it's very. Yeah.
To this, to those two guys in in Italy, they, they have been
taking pictures so many times, like with big beard and they are
always like pushing their hands at the very bottom of their
suits, like ready to show that they are using them.
You know, that's all right. That's quite fun.
But yeah, to use with caution, I would say.
OK hold on, but what garments would you recommend to have in
your wardrobe for a casual? Maybe not smart casual, but just
casual but still looking dapper? Field Jacket.
Panties and oh sorry my bad. Now you also need to have.
Maybe Hockerty will have them. Exactly mid to mirror panties.
You know that actually it's a good idea.
I had a collab with one brand that you could choose the length
of boxers. That's actually pretty cool.
Imagine. Imagine for example.
Struggling to find longer lengths.
Exactly because I have pretty, pretty big ties.
And also for winter, you know, how much warmer is it if you
have if you have long ankle socks and long boxers, then just
your knees not not covered. Yeah, actually not.
But also I think it's super convenient when I mean like we
are talking about something different, but I think when you
have a longer rise in the trousers and you have a bit more
space in the crotch, sometimes it it can be a bit
discomfortable at the end of the day.
So when it's longer, yeah, it. Can you can get even some
bruises? Exactly.
Some irritation. Irritation.
Exactly. So yeah.
That's why the guys go made to measure.
You see, we can even joke about panties and start talking.
But. Yeah, everything goes to Made to
Measure to this day, and they probably exist.
Yeah, that's awesome. Whatever this button is actually
doing. But yeah, I mean.
Still the sound is on. Oh shit, yeah, OK now and now I
can tell no. No, I don't think it's on.
Sorry. No, it's not.
No, it's not another one.
No. OK, to summarize what garments
you should have in your wardrobe 321 go ahead.
You should wear denims. I would say denim.
Nice denims actually. But for summer it's a bit too
thick. But not in Scandinavia.
You can, yeah. Not in Scandinavia.
You can have lighter denims also, yeah.
I don't like lighter denims because they they are not so
stiff that the drape is not the same.
No, but I would say you can go as low as 11 OS and you still
have something that is consistent enough and it's not
super warm. I mean we are talking something
that you can wear up above 25° and you are not going to die.
But yeah, so denims, of course, I would say we, we don't talk
about it so much, but I would say good, nice T-shirt.
It can be cool actually. Good nice T-shirt with the iris
trousers. More dressed down.
More dressed up it can look super cool.
I I love white T-shirt. I'm wearing white T-shirt all
the time. I would I would add Henley
because I I became a big fan. Of Henley's, yeah.
Of Henley's. It's cool they.
Just look. I mean, a lot of girls even say
that they look sexy. Yeah, yeah, because they have
this like a bit more image of the guy like you don't.
Care. Maybe you just like you.
Just do something with your motorbike.
And the guy you know, like it gives disappearance.
I don't know, a nice white T-shirt can also give it.
I think especially if you are a bit fit, a nice white T-shirt,
that's the only piece where I think it's acceptable to have it
a bit closer to your body because it's supposed to be like
underwear. So it's still it's more
acceptable. Not too tight, not too short
sleeves I would say. No, exactly.
Not too short sleeve, still good proportions and you shouldn't
feel. You shouldn't feel that it's too
tight, even if it's a bit closer to your body maybe.
Looser on your on your belly. Yeah, exactly.
Bit looser, not too tight either, you know, but that that
is acceptable. And there, there that, that can
be a very nice look actually, I would say.
And like outerwear, jackets feels safari.
Jackets. Safari for everyone.
Chore jacket would be cool. Chore jacket.
I love my chore jacket like a blue.
See if you want to introduce a bit lighter colours.
Lighter blue tall jacket is like a big big classic.
Thick fabric. Thick fabric.
It's going to be some canvas. Like yeah, cotton canvas.
It's nice even when when it's when it's Navy or blue, Yeah,
when you have some kind of it's worn out.
Yeah, exactly. So someone and or just you wear
it all with time, you know? Even even put it on the sun or
something. Yeah, yeah, actually.
But that's how I actually, I had a shirt like this that was on
the shelves for years and years. And then when I started wearing
it, it was like. Yeah, I ask you why?
What is it? Yeah.
And I loved it because of this, because it just aged.
It got it patina by itself, and I was.
Said also that maybe order some trench coat.
Yeah nice nice coat even. I mean coats they work with with
casual wear as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm wearing my, I have a trench made of, of cotton that is not
too thick, bit thicker material and, and I love it.
I I it's like a typical beige, like the bit greyish beige.
Yeah, super, super nice. Yeah, exactly.
Khakis very. But yeah.
But actually talking about khakis like, chinos like.
Yeah, exactly. Chinos, classic chinos.
And also I would say that go for a casual suit and all the jacket
that you can, you can wear for for different for different
season, because for example, in winter it will be more tweets.
Yeah for summer, maybe some linen wool blend, something like
that. Maybe Czech, maybe I don't know
with. Pattern.
They actually have that on Orkuti.
They have nice tweets. They are changing.
The window pane also. Yeah, exactly.
So yeah. Some nice shirts, button down
shirts. Blazer, A nice blazer with the
buttons, you know, I mean, they can be gold.
I like them a bit more torn down, so you could choose an
option that is maybe less in your face, but honestly a nice
blazer. It's midnight blue, but it you
can wear it in a very relaxed way.
If it's double breasted, it it's even cooler when you leave it
open. Then it's super laid back.
That's for me a very nice, super useful and easy to pair with
anything that we talked about before.
And also some nice loafers. You can also order custom made.
I wouldn't say made to measure because in loafers you cannot
change that much. It's still.
Don't take them to lose from the start because they are going to
open up and if you want them to hang on your feet, you're going
to have to suffer if you wear. And also at Hocker tea you can
choose if you want to have leather sole or rubber sole.
Yeah, I would. Honestly I would advise to go
for rubber sole. Yeah, if you prefer it, yeah, if
you don't have, if you don't have low ferrets in your
wardrobe, then just go for rubber, because then you can use
it even during winter. Much more comfortable.
When it's not too much wear. And also I got used to because
with the ladder, it bonds a bit more on the ground and it's you
have more like how to say that like on the car, you know, like
a suspension. Yeah, suspension.
So then it absorbs more the shock when you are walking.
So it's more comfortable with the.
I mean, if you like even sport shoes, you can go with some
sneakers. We are not big fan.
But yeah, if you if you are not a suit guy, some nice sneakers,
some. Some nice sneakers can be OK I
think. Just very simple.
Very simple, exactly very simple.
I mean, I mean we are not talking about if we go to the
gym, we don't care. We our our self wearing very
sporty garments when we are using them for to run.
You have runners that are multi colour and that's.
That I actually love running clothes because you can wear so
random colours and they still look good.
Exactly. So we are not saying that we're
against those. We are saying about in this
context. And I would say there was this
New Balance trend that was very strong in Asia, for example,
where we would cash or wear. So instead of loafers, they
would wear this style of of shoes?
Yeah. It works, but that's a different
level if you if you want to start with something you can
order like white leather sneakers or maybe some dark
suede with white sole. Simple.
You are at it, the price is not so expensive, so it's a good
opportunity to actually trial of.
In some different different shirts you can go with button
down Oxford button down shirt you can go with some linen
shirts, you can go with something I would recommend
totally this linen from Hockerty button down, but very nice
texture, very nice colour, fits with even some lighter outfits.
It would fit even with your outfit.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Very nice, very very nice colour.
I I, I love this tone. Yeah, it's beautiful. 1 So no,
but I would say, well, I kind of rounding up, of course you
usually want to, we talk a bit about accessories.
You want to match a bit, maybe have a watch that is a bit more
dressed down, a bit more sporty. It needs to be coherent.
Basically your outfit. What I would add for example
that Hockerty some socks even that you can buy socks that you
can go with everything. They they can a lot.
Of guys are struggling to find no show socks or maybe nice
socks that you can wear with loafers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be something cool to
add maybe. And honestly, so today usually
I'm wearing socks and today it's it's because I forgot my socks.
But but I must say that imagine that I'm in in Italy actually
having no show socks. I would always wear socks.
To be honest, even if I wear it like this, I would still have
socks that are invisible socks. Yeah, it's just hygiene also.
Exactly, so I would all wear wear socks with shoes.
Maybe not with both shoes because those are made to wear
sockless, yeah. That is something specific then,
yeah. But then yeah, especially there
are certain brands where we are more on Orkutty, but we can
still say how the brands that are that what Orkutty is not
making the GH base, GH bus, they are actually making very nice
both shoes that are super comfortable.
And then I couldn't actually wear socks in it because I
could, but it's not as comfortable because it's really
meant to shave your feet. But but yeah, it's not
completely correct to do to do this, but with invisible socks
it would be better. It's a controversial subject you
can wear when it's. Warm.
I mean, it's super warm. You don't.
You don't wear a suit right now. No exactly.
I mean much more laid back configuration.
Sorry if guys if you are triggered by but my they.
Can be also triggered by my white socks.
Yeah, it's more Ivy. Yeah, you have had some comments
about your white socks. It's crazy because.
And I had. A white shoes sometimes, to be
honest, we are we're in this we we we love menswear.
We find it super cool and it's a nice topic.
We are a bit gigging around those things, but I don't care
so much to comment that the guy that why?
Why are you doing with your White Sox like?
I mean, yeah, guys don't listen to.
Your, that's your fight. I mean, that's, that's what I
want to say. Is this your fight in your life?
White Sox. Yeah, I mean White Sox even now.
Just not for the socks. Not on those.
But there's a Michael Jackson movie nowadays.
Yeah, White socks, I think. White white socks are coming
back. Yeah, exactly.
So guys, what are your go to casual outfits?
Give us a leave us a comment and.
Send us pictures also. Again send us picture of your
typical, your classic because we want to share them.
We want to share what you are doing also and maybe we can give
our opinion on it's like what we like.
Send us your outfits, we're going to roast you exactly.
I was exactly about to say that we are not going to roast you,
but we're. Going to Yeah, we're going to
roast you if you want. Just just when you want.
Yeah, and and you know us, we're gentle.
Of course, very, very, very gentle.
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