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Are you drunk? 
You can't do that because I can 

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tell and you know, how you can 
tell, because I can see two of 

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you, 
They don't want me to tell you 

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what about that last school. 
With all those kids listening 

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the songs on your tape recorder.
Well, they wanted you. 

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They needed me because they 
wanted me to teach them to sing.

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Well, teach a lot. 
Hello, and welcome to goon pod. 

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If I sound a little bit as my 
guest indicated husky tonight, 

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it is because I am suffering 
from, I don't know what, but uh,

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I've been sneezing and coughing 
like nobody's business for the 

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last Fortnight. 
So that's why my voice sounds 

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even more, chocolatey than it 
normally does. 

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Oh, shocker, you don't need to 
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Bring it out in the open and 
deserve. 

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I am available for Cadbury's. 
Flake. 

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And It's anything like that 
obscene phone calls. 

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You name it. 
Even though we refer to, as you 

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can hear, I am joined by 
somebody and that person is 

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returning guest John or tea. 
Hello John. 

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Hello sir. 
How are you getting on apart 

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from your huskiness. 
Don't don't apologize for that 

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marvelous. 
This could generate huge 

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quantities of work in a think 
it's all good. 

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Yeah, but it's a joy to be back 
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I love what you've done with it.
Thank you very much, kept it 

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lovely. 
Why? 

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Thank you very much and start my
last trip. 

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Well, the last time you were 
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film The Magnificent Seven 
Deadly Sins. 

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Yes. 
And and in a way you could call 

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this episode. 
What seeking did next? 

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Yes. 
Now that they do dovetail quite?

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Well don't they really? 
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his character from that there's 
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This could have been how things 
turned out you know. 

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I'm with you on that. 
But yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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And I'm conscious of the fact 
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Yes, it's about. 
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goons, the Goon show but also 
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very, very, very heavily 
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Milligan. 
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because, you know, we've done a 
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he doesn't get a fair crack of 
the whip, I feel so it was 

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great. 
Opportunity for John to return 

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and talk about his last film 
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Harry's not mine, I do not 
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Let up Harry's last film 
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the star, it's the 1972 film 
sunstruck but a few things 

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before we get on to talking 
about Sons drunk and John 

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obviously, you are all about 
stunts and stun to people and 

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people in the Art of stunt work 
showing themselves about a bit 

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in a so that other people can 
take the glory. 

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Yes, that's that. 
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stunts. 
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It's a sort of place that people
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aspects of stunt work in various
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Whether that's TV shows, whether
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behind-the-scenes stuff or it's 
a breakdown of how things are 

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done. 
You know, I'm fascinated by How 

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this is done, how you do this? 
How do you do that? 

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That's what I want to know. 
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the situation where there's a 
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have joined me on the YouTube 
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exactly the same thing they want
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stuff. 
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comes from. 
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from strength to strength, them 
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So it's very good and if you 
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and join us. 
What's the worst that can 

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happen, right? 
I want to try and stump, you 

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hear something. 
Just occurred to me top of my 

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head, right? 
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film for eons, but it's either 
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released recently on Blu-ray and
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Oh well, you know, brand again, 
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John Wayne as Big. 
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over to London and causing 
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Richard, Attenborough, no less. 
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Wonderful guy who was many will 
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work. 
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for all the action on the 
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villain. 
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really big car chase guy and 
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recognizable because he is a 
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regardless of who is doubling, 
which I always find fascinating.

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getting in on that fight and 
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he does. 
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the kitchen sink at every single
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He's throwing and Peter and a 
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dozen people for real. 
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with it, I think them, but 
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hit by John Wayne. 
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That was the thing because he 
you go. 

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Oh wow. 
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They were all fans of The 
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is my opportunity but greatly 
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Wouldn't, you know? 
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And in my memory, there's a 
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gets pushed into a canal by John
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Is that right? 
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The immortal line that says, can
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And he says, yes, and then go 
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I suppose would be part of the 
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I'm still not quite sure where 
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real. 
Tony Robinson. 

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Did that for real? 
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he got through his agent at the 
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He was at home and got a phone 
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to do a thing on a, on a movie? 
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know, this is what we need you 
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you know, what's the deal as far
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so I'm pretty good A pretty hit 
pretty fit, so? 

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Okay, the idea is that you're 
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water, all right? 
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but then they later on it was 
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location on the docklands and I 
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15 feet above the water and he's
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He's got a helmet on and he hits
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potatoes. 
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the whole thing and he's heard 
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He's going under for the third 
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But yeah, we did that for real. 
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because that was a nice. 
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Now he says, you know, it would 
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flat rate for it. 
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danger money. 
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but yeah better but but he 
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Rainbow no woody. 
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isn't it? 
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I don't like the idea that 
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been bungle. 
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took the right choice, I think 
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thrown in the Water by John 
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Well, I know where I'm going 
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water is quite appropriate for 
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start again. 
One other quick thing, just a 

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moment silence please, for 
Network DVD. 

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You've heard about this sorry. 
John, yes, I'm afraid. 

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So I'm in there in liquid layer 
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So I know there was a lot of 
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I've got orders outstanding, 
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them, I would have thought of 
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what's going on? 
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sort of staple for all that 
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You go, you, you discover a 
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on some dusty Channel at the 
satellite and go, I love them. 

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Where do you get these movies 
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place where Go. 
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you'd think, oh they must have 
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They would have it you know, on 
a number of different formats as

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well. 
So it is a great shame because 

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they were very important to a 
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Those there's a bunch of us out 
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those old Dusty pictures that 
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those to those that know 
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Yeah. 
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sitting right now. 
My have a sizable shelf of DVDs 

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and Blu-rays. 
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this, there's robbery Stanley 
Baker, film. 

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There's the direct use of touch.
Oh, there's a man about the 

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house movie, although whole 
release by Network at work? 

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Yeah. 
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They managed to, you know, 
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There was a niche area and 
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lot of people going. 
Yes, this is exactly where I 

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want to try and get this movie 
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So it's a really sad time that 
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I thought that they were, you 
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obviously not massively popular 
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So it is a terrible thing to see
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this and that and that they 
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that there will be some future 
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There is speculation that 
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Baton in some fashion. 
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channels I talking pictures TV 
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this was absolutely. 
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return in a different guise If 
You artist formerly known the 

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artist formerly known as 
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Yeah, it's be shame of if this 
resource dried up for for 

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obscure hard to get films and 
television. 

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What happens when a Welsh 
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mistress but she doesn't fancy 
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Stan, Lee Evans thinks he has 
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This is what he hopes for and 
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he gets. 
Lee Evans. 

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Stanley, this is the Kookaburra 
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Association. meanwhile, the kids
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we're all going to make a fresh 
start, right? 

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Okay, so as I mentioned before, 
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from 1972 today, starring Harry 
second. 

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So my first question, John is 
what made you change this? 

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Yeah. 
What, why the hell did you want 

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to talk about? 
So, what were you thinking of 

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you lunatic be? 
Well, I really it was as we've 

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discussed before and as, as many
people know, without Harry, you 

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know, the whole goon thing would
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part of the success of all of 
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staple part of many people's 
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When it came to, you know, 
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singing, what his great voice, 
and all that sort of stuff and 

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general entertainment. 
And I remember seeing something 

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many moons ago, which was 
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time, I think he was some, I 
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touring cricket team. 
For the variety club and they 

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would jet off to all sorts of 
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or the Earth. 
Do you know, they've got all 

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these different places and raise
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him. 
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very entertaining and when I 
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thought, well, you know, this, 
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obviously him broaden his 
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wrong? 
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concerned evidently quite a bit.
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to that later on but throw him 
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I'd love to have been in the 
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and be in the meeting where they
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Harry this idea. 
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goes, how long would it have 
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I'm in, you know, no problem, 
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know, it was a big night is 
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Zealand. 
It's a starring vehicle. 

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It's filming in Australia yet, 
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necessarily the Glamorous bits 
of Australia. 

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No no and in hindsight you might
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Australia to film it. 
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certainly has its a hairy cecum 
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Oliver, for instance, and of 
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you want to try and find a film,
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of the boxes along the way. 
They seem like a good choice. 

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Its obscure enough for people, 
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entertaining enough for people 
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Do you mean that movie The other
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between January and March 1972. 
Which is perishing Lee hot in 

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Australia. 
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And it shows it does look like 
it does look like it's running 

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out of him dirty. 
It is really warm and and it was

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a British Australian 
co-production right to partially

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receive funding from the 
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In film development commission 
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salary, and have points in the 
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So, Casey of the film did? 
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very well out of it himself, but
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well, so, but now you are not. 
It could because it's, it's 

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directed and co-written by Jimmy
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Gilbert the Grafton and Gilbert 
Lads. 

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Well, yes, it is. 
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and partially written and And 
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in the screenplay and Jimmy 
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He's one of those names that you
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classic TV, comedy shows. 
Yes exactly. 

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He was, he was the guy who 
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brought together The Two 
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Wasn't he after that? 
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I'm trying to decide who show it
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performance and something was 
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missing a killer or something. 
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Barker, would you get up and do 
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Just, you know, warm everybody 
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And then somebody had nudge 
Ronnie. 

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Corbett said, why don't you get 
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together, all of a sudden there 
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was a lot of rummaging and 
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people going on, that's not bad.
So, and before too long, Jimmy 

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was partially responsible for 
going, right? 

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Come and see me you pair and 
we'll try and sort something 

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out. 
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that happened. 
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thinking it was the baftas, 
right? 

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Yep. 
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think it was about a but yeah, 
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Really is a television producer 
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connection. 
He worked on. 

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It's a square world. 
He worked on not only but also 

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most of which sadly doesn't 
exist anymore white. 

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Yes. 
Yeah. 

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And network had been around that
have taken those. 

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You see? 
See it's all coming back to the 

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you know, they could have had 
the lot lately. 

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He leaves. 
It was head of light. 

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Entertainment wasn't always had 
a BBC comedy for a while. 

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Yeah. 
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drivers behind Last of the 
Summer Wine and whatever 

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happened to the likely Lads. 
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pedigree, but I think this is 
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film projects that he was 
involved with right far as I can

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see. 
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this is the direction he maybe 
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the film didn't necessarily make
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directional. 
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originated was it had a number 
of working titles the best known

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being the education of Stan, Lee
Evans. 

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That's right. 
Yeah. 

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But it was also that if there 
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they were sort of playing around
with including the Immigrant and

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now see that that was the 
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immigrant, isn't it? 
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tied they just create that for 
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use that title as the done? 
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the beginning. 
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script Harry was going to be 
playing an Italian opera star 

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who moves to Australia now. 
Now, now I'm already sold on the

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deal right here. 
You know, I could have taken 

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that on board none. 
Yep, yep. 

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Yeah, just give me that movie, 
that movies, fine, I'll take 

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that. 
No problem whatsoever, couple of

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arya's, jobs are good, and 
another title that they had 

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attached to. 
This was a touch of the Sun and 

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I land. 
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April 1963, there was a TV movie
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sun, right? 
A start. 

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Well, it was to Star Dick Emery,
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But for some reason it was never
actually broadcast. 

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I gather it was in the radio 
times listed but it was never 

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broadcast for some reason and 
instead it was replaced by quite

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appropriately. 
The Red Army Choir now. 

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So I'd like to know why a series
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repertoire. 
Yes. 

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Yeah. 
I'd love to know why it was 

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never broadcast but but but I 
mention it because obviously 

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it's called a touch of the sun 
who do you think? 

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Produced it or was to produce 
it? 

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Maybe, maybe Jimmy Gilbert 
possibly. 

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Yes, Jim, You kill people. 
So I wonder I wonder whether 

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there was a script from that, 
that which has been rehashed 

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create this. 
Yeah, possibly, yeah. 

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So yes. 
So there's this really this to 

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that. 
Well, there's three locations 

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that we see in this film is. 
No. 

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There's, there's the main 
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called? 
Kookaburra Springs, kookaburra 

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Springs and lies. 
There's there's also we see They

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briefly, don't we? 
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but the Sydney Opera House 
didn't open until 1973. 

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Well, maybe it was, was it 
completed late on and then not 

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opened until 75-minute? 
Presumably is, it was in working

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order, right? 
But because the place that they 

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actually do, all the place that 
looks like where they visit 

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eventually for the whole choir 
sequence doesn't look like 

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Sydney Opera house at all. 
It looks like a completely 

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different building so I'm 
assuming that's they did 

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Interiors elsewhere, maybe? 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, I can. 
I really can't see a school's 

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choir competition taking place 
in the Sydney Opera House, 

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really? 
Yeah. 

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And of course at the beginning, 
at the beginning of the film pre

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credits, there's a, there's a 
Welsh mining Village, that's 

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right. 
It is mer. 

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Fer ya, murtha merthyr tydfil? 
Yeah, there's a there's a thing 

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on IMDb where there is somebody 
who is who was in the opening 

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sequence, has a choir singing 
and Mr. Evans is conducting said

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quiet. 
Now a member of that choir for 

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the school's sequence had has 
left a comment and I am be IMDb 

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about you know what a time it 
was and how and how Harry was 

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fabulous and would constantly 
make everybody corpse with 

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laughter accepted said, I mean, 
is it just the sort of thing 

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that you would expect him to do?
You wouldn't want him to be one?

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Take cecum? 
You know he's you want to do you

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want 25 of them all mess? 
Shut up because he's laughing 

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the whole time or blowing 
raspberries are doing x, y, and 

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Zed. 
You know, that type of thing. 

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So they have confirmed that they
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It was a real school in merthyr 
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time. 
Good, good. 

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And that, the premise of the 
film is that you have this 

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unlucky and love. 
Love Lon schoolteacher. 

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Yes. 
Stan. 

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Lee Evans and he's been perving 
on the PE teacher. 

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Pretty well. 
Who hasn't? 

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We've all been there although? 
His capacity as teacher, he 

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makes it. 
There's a lovely moment part way

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through when he's conducting and
looking out of the window. 

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And but the camera is panning 
across the rest of the choir. 

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Who was singing, who all know 
what's going on? 

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Yeah, they're all nudging and 
winking with each other and then

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there's a moment where she 
presumably turns which catches a

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glimpse of him. 
And he just about turns and goes

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back to his position, in the 
classroom, hoping that she 

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didn't say him. 
But yeah, it's I think we can 

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peeping I think is the phrase 
that's used in the pictures. 

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Anything that's right peeping. 
Everything seems a bit strong 

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for 72. 
Does actually, by the way, this 

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business with Jennifer Jennifer.
Oh. 

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Miss Morgan. 
You mean exactly? 

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You know that she and I are you 
know, I didn't know that you 

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were well we asking. 
And between ourselves. 

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You're embarrassing her. 
My huh. 

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My you know, you're always I was
peeping what I show you. 

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I no intention of looking at 
some of the kids have remarked 

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on it, started drawing things on
the walls. 

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Just wanted to make a fool of 
yourself. 

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That's all. 
Oh man. 

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Now, Donald Houston. 
Now, I know Donald Houston from 

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films such as Where Eagles Dare 
indeed and he's, you know, he's 

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quite high up in the building of
this film but he's in it for 

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literally what? 
40 seconds maybe oh s. 

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Yeah. 
And is he credited as himself? 

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He's credited. 
As I can't remember whether I 

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saw it as a character, I believe
he's down as himself as he. 

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So he's just a Donald Houston. 
As himself as the teacher is, is

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driving off in his sports. 
Car with the PE teacher with the

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PE teacher standard operating 
procedure. 

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He's got that lovely. 
There's a couple of just really,

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lovely moments. 
He says, that the children are 

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drawing pictures as well. 
You know what? 

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So they typically we see one of 
them don't. 

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Yeah, exactly sir. 
He tries to cover it up 

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desperately quickly. 
That's it yet. 

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The premise is that Stan Lee 
Evans school teacher can't get 

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the girl of his dreams and he is
spies on his Long Walk Home was 

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he sort of pushing his bike up a
hill or something and he yeah 

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cycles for a bit then gets to 
the look like the train station 

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and sees this sign, which is at 
which we should, I think believe

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it is that whether the whole 
premise for the movie came from 

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originally because it's a A 
teacher in a Mortar Board and 

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swimming trunks carrying a pile 
of books. 

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And I think the sign says, teach
in the sun in New South Wales, 

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Australia, and he has that. 
Hmm, I wonder moment here before

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the titles kick in and what if 
point of fact, before a burst of

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Waltzing Matilda kicks in, I 
wondered how long, it'd be with 

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an Australian reference to 
Waltzing Matilda. 

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It wasn't that long. 
Well, yeah, with, and he's on 

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the beach Harry's. 
The beach in this Daydream this 

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reverie with the mortarboard 
with the robes and that's it and

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the try the Trunks, and he's 
conducting, he's leading a bevy 

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of bikini-clad Beauties in a 
Lusty rendition of Waltzing 

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Matilda and Lusty rendition. 
Yes. 

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Indeed. 
And he. 

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Yeah. 
He decides egg. 

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This is this the life of me. 
I'll, I'll pack up and I'll move

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to 2 odds and and he does that 
without saying a word, you know,

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it's all purely in. 
In his mind. 

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And then at the end of that, he 
says, right unfit and storms off

453
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,500
and then the titles kicking to 
go. 

454
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:07,600
Hang on. 
We're moving it up with the 

455
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,000
titles. 
Is he moving? 

456
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,600
Isn't it the journal? 
It's a montage of him on 

457
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:19,400
increasingly less robust, 
aircraft such as smaller smaller

458
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,100
aircraft as he gets further 
away. 

459
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,800
Yeah so he's either thinks he 
thinks he's going to be 

460
00:27:23,808 --> 00:27:25,600
teaching. 
Literally teaching people on 

461
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,900
Bondi Beach, doesn't he? 
Yes, he does. 

462
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:31,200
He's envisaging. 
And then the truth is quite 

463
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,400
otherwise. 
Unfortunately, he, he ends up 

464
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,800
being posted to this far-flung. 
Secluded little out back. 

465
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,200
Not even a town isn't, it's more
of just a hotel and a school 

466
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,400
Dust Bowl. 
Yeah, exactly. 

467
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:49,400
And you know nowadays you get 
there and you go, right. 

468
00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:52,600
I'm just going to ring trading 
standards because this is not 

469
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,000
what I've signed up for and he 
kind of does that in. 

470
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,900
Not so many words in these Head.
He's going. 

471
00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:01,400
Oh, this really isn't a good 
idea. 

472
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:06,000
But yes, kookaburra Springs 
mention all the, all the Exotic,

473
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,700
Hot Spot. 
Kookaburra Springs is 

474
00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:13,600
essentially a place called new 
lunga. 

475
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,000
Liu Liu Lang. 
Golu, I think you have to say 

476
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,200
that with an accent, well, I 
don't have the Aboriginal accent

477
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:27,400
to up to low right, but there's 
new longer Lou and also a nearby

478
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:33,700
Town called one Galia, okay? 
And and they were both fairly 

479
00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:38,500
thriving towns in the early 20th
century, but for some reason, 

480
00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:40,200
their schools closed down in the
60s. 

481
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,300
And by the time that this film 
was shot, they were pretty much 

482
00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:46,900
ghost towns, really. 
Oh, right hand. 

483
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,200
And the, the film crew who was 
scouting locations for the film 

484
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,200
discovered by accident. 
They took a wrong turning or 

485
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,900
something and they discovered 
this Homestead in the lung glue 

486
00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:03,500
called Bray side and they 
thought it'd be perfect as the 

487
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:06,600
hotel that received them and 
they purchased it for 

488
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,600
apparently. 
They bought it for 400,000 

489
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,300
Australian dollars which seems 
an awful lot but for a disused 

490
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,500
dilapidated. 
Yeah location. 

491
00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:22,700
And and what they did, they then
bought a very old disused 

492
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:29,100
schoolhouse from one Galia. 
And Had it transported to the 

493
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:31,900
longer Lou and then positioned 
it across from the hotel as we 

494
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:36,900
see in the, in the field, and 
they pretty much use. 

495
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:41,300
Whatever locals were still 
living around to act as extras 

496
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:45,600
as, okay, set, Builders even and
body, doubles and animal 

497
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:52,500
handlers and of the 16 children 
that we see in the film being 

498
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:58,600
taught by herion in. 
Kookaburra Springs. 14 of them 

499
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,600
were just local kids. 
Oh. 

500
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,600
So right. 
I was happy and yes. 

501
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,900
Oh, so that's the sort of the 
background to, to kookaburra 

502
00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:10,800
spring Z. 
This is why this isn't, this is 

503
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,100
why this podcast exists, right? 
There's a very small little 

504
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,300
picture that we're looking at. 
All of a sudden, you've painted 

505
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:19,300
painting pictures with words, 
Tyler. 

506
00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:21,600
That's what you've done there. 
You've given us a sort of wish 

507
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,600
you were here episode of the 
travel. 

508
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,300
If Judith Charmers headed that 
she'd had done it, no better. 

509
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:28,700
My friend, that's what you've 
done there. 

510
00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:30,800
You've given us the whole lay 
down of the other thing. 

511
00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:32,400
That's brilliant. 
I didn't know any of that. 

512
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,800
Sort of the Giudice was one for 
the teenagers. 

513
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:39,100
Judy shoot a challenge. 
Yes, a regular mention she gets 

514
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:45,500
you know yes and I want to talk 
about some of the cast who have 

515
00:30:45,508 --> 00:30:47,600
not mentioned or yes. 
Obviously we don't we don't 

516
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,300
really didn't need to talk about
Harry at the stage. 

517
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:51,100
Do we? 
No no, no. 

518
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:54,500
I think what one thing I would 
like to say if I may just from 

519
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:57,800
the titles is that the The music
is provided by Geico Peter 

520
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,700
Knight, who is a really serious 
composer? 

521
00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:03,800
And arranger of that period 
having to work with everybody. 

522
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,700
You have a look at who we'd work
with through the 50s 60s, and 

523
00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:09,200
70s and a lot of comedians 
musical. 

524
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:14,000
Arranges for Eric and Ernie. 
Ken Dodd, Stanley Baxter, 

525
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,700
Bernard cribbins, Benny Hill 
dick, Emery Bruce Forsyth, 

526
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:21,400
Frankie, Howard and was was one 
of the musical guys who worked 

527
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,100
with Harry and Pickwick, and 
with some Christmas night for 

528
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:26,700
the Stars. 
So, there's a long On reference 

529
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:29,900
there with that lamb. 
Um, has he any other connections

530
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:36,100
with with other goon type films 
of that nature? 

531
00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:38,000
Well, let me put it this way. 
You're aware of. 

532
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,700
Let me put it this way. 
So Harry flew back from 

533
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:49,400
Australia in March. 72, right 
hand in April. 72 Harry was 

534
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,400
involved with the last gunshot 
of all gods. 

535
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,500
Who was the conductor for the 
last crying beaten? 

536
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:59,500
I've eaten Uh okay yeah, got it 
and web talk about the credits 

537
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:00,900
as well. 
I noticed done. 

538
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:06,400
If you picked up on this there 
was a credit for Jenny cecum. 

539
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:13,700
Daughter under publicity stroke,
Stills, Stills photographer? 

540
00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:15,300
Yeah. 
And she was his, she was Harry's

541
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:20,700
daughter getting anything but a 
mechanism there, unfortunately. 

542
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:24,900
Sadly Jenny passed away 
relatively recently in re. 

543
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:28,000
So really, it's hard to show but
her sister her younger sister, 

544
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:34,000
Katie actually follows the show 
on Twitter, right? 

545
00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:36,900
She and I have had a brief 
Exchange. 

546
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,600
Change and she, she was very, 
very little when this film was 

547
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,600
made, but she was out there with
the family on location is Harry 

548
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,300
was for. 
Yeah, she said it was a 

549
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:54,400
wonderful time. 
Now, I'm very impressed by the 

550
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,900
actor. 
John, and I hope I pronounce 

551
00:32:55,900 --> 00:32:58,700
this correctly John Malin or me 
La Mala Mia. 

552
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:01,900
Malins it. 
Yeah, because he is effectively 

553
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:03,500
Australian Cinema. 
Isn't he? 

554
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:05,300
His knee? 
Just good Lord. 

555
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,600
There isn't anything he hasn't 
been in. 

556
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,400
Think that's safe to say, ìwell.
I think the Casual Cinema Goa 

557
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,000
would probably know him. 
Mainly fair to say from the 

558
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,200
Crocodile Dundee films. 
Right? 

559
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:26,200
Well, till Wednesday, Wednesday.
Yesterday. 

560
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:37,400
Well Monday. 
Doesn't doesn't care. 

561
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,300
Looking busted. 
He pretty much as I know that a 

562
00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:48,300
lot of those movies that hold a 
lot of critical clout as well 

563
00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:51,100
like Walkabout for instance. 
Well, he was the father in 

564
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:53,000
Walkabout, wasn't he? 
Yeah, exactly. 

565
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:55,400
He's the guy starts shooting it 
as kids. 

566
00:33:55,700 --> 00:34:03,100
That's right, because he worked 
in London from 1959 to 1965. 

567
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,500
And so, the last stage stuff 
here and he also did a lot of 

568
00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:11,500
stuff comedic wise out. 
Fact was in lots of episodes of 

569
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,800
the worker with Charlie Drake. 
Oh dear. 

570
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,500
And that your world and then 
with an Australian connection 

571
00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:22,199
when they took shows out. 
There you mentioned. 

572
00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:24,699
Patrick Cargill Alia father. 
Dear father for instance. 

573
00:34:24,699 --> 00:34:28,100
Yeah, the Australian version. 
He was in that 633. 

574
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:31,900
Squadron, he was in longest day.
I'm in a whole bunch of bits and

575
00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:34,800
pieces but does it as I'm 
watching this film, sorry to 

576
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,400
break 2 katana. 
As I'm watching this film, 

577
00:34:37,699 --> 00:34:44,100
there's another film but kept, I
kept thinking about which is 

578
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:46,600
completely different. 
It's a completely just different

579
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,100
tone to this film, but the film 
Wake in Fright. 

580
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,500
Have you ever seen that wake and
for, I don't know what have 

581
00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:56,900
waking in Fright. 
Well, Wake in Fright. 

582
00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:57,900
No, I haven't. 
No. 

583
00:34:58,300 --> 00:35:00,500
Okay. 
It's from a, I think the year 

584
00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:04,000
before somebody wants an 
Australian film again, right? 

585
00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:07,600
But it is, I would say it's 
probably Australian British 

586
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,300
again, co-production because 
there's British actors in it, 

587
00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:13,800
including Donald Pleasence, 
okay, in a row. all that you 

588
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:21,300
will not forget in a hurry and 
and it's of it is exactly that 

589
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:25,400
fish out of water, innocent 
person or innocent, man innocent

590
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,200
in the sense of, you know, not 
particularly worldwide. 

591
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,000
Worldly wise. 
Yes, yes, absolutely. 

592
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,000
And being put into this very, 
very difficult environment with 

593
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,900
very, very difficult people. 
And it's not an easy watch and 

594
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:43,500
and it's Infamous as well 
because there are genuine scenes

595
00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:48,000
of animal cruelty, oh, Marion 
and things like that. 

596
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,100
So it's quite It's a very 
memorable memorable film of. 

597
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:53,700
I have watched at the ones. 
I don't think I'd watch it 

598
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:57,600
again. 
But running through this film, 

599
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,800
there are quite a number of Wake
in Fright connections, and I do.

600
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:02,400
Okay? 
And I'm going to. 

601
00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:05,800
So John was it mail and did you 
say John Mainland? 

602
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,300
Hey, Lem here male and he was in
Wake in Fright. 

603
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:13,100
Okay. 
All right, as was the actress 

604
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:16,200
who played his wife and son, 
struck. 

605
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,700
Don't like I said she was in her
eyes. 

606
00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:23,500
Well, as well. 
Was the guy who played the sort 

607
00:36:23,500 --> 00:36:24,400
of. 
I suppose you calling the 

608
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,000
villain of the piece Pete. 
Oh, the brother. 

609
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,900
He's the brother, rather. 
Yes. 

610
00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:31,800
Yes, heater Whittle. 
He was in Wake in Fright, I 

611
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,300
think it would be easier to say,
who wasn't in waking who wasn't 

612
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:38,000
exactly Harry, but I can tell 
you this, now, it would not do 

613
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,200
Wake in Fright and sunstrike 
would not make not a good double

614
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,300
feature will feature. 
No very similar in some ways, 

615
00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:48,000
but poles, apart in others, 
okay? 

616
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,600
And Yes. 
If we've got, we've got Johnny 

617
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,200
plays make who's the owner of 
the Mayfair Hotel, I guess, 

618
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,200
after Harry sent Central 
character really, isn't he in 

619
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,400
this film? 
He is he without him. 

620
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,600
The story, wouldn't take the 
turns that it takes, and he 

621
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,600
picks him up from the flight to 
take him in, to take him a note.

622
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,600
That that's the first thing I 
noticed, was that Harry's 

623
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,100
equipped with his golf clubs and
a tape recorder. 

624
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,300
And she says, Is to him, you 
apply any tennis. 

625
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:22,200
He says not. 
Not very well. 

626
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:25,300
All right. 
Okay, but yes, he's got his golf

627
00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:26,600
clubs with him. 
The tape recorder. 

628
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,900
You might want to stick that in 
the front, it's a bit bumpy in 

629
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:31,800
the back. 
Roger, then he says, God isn't 

630
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,000
it art? 
And I was wondering how long it 

631
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,400
would be before, there was a 
heat reference and it again, you

632
00:37:37,408 --> 00:37:41,900
know, delivered quite early on 
but he does acclimatize later 

633
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:44,700
on, as the case may be. 
But yeah, Judd, there Cassidy 

634
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:46,700
character is very important to 
this. 

635
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,000
I want to ask you as well 
because I've jotted down some 

636
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,800
sort of talking points. 
And one of the first things I 

637
00:37:54,808 --> 00:37:59,900
jotted down was because there's 
the film was largely written by,

638
00:37:59,900 --> 00:38:04,300
I guess where it's it's, it's 
yeah, the original screenplay 

639
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,600
screenplay by Stone Mars who'd 
written for Harry on the Harry 

640
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,900
second show and, and additional 
material from Jimmy Grafton, 

641
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:19,400
Jimmy Gilbert and album Jones. 
So it's a His team writing a 

642
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,900
film set in Australia and I 
wonder what your thoughts are 

643
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:26,900
about British owed ideas about 
Ossie idioms. 

644
00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:29,200
If, you know what I mean in 
terms of? 

645
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,100
Yeah, well it's, you know, it's 
just not take very long before 

646
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:34,700
you see somebody wearing a hat 
and got Cokes around it, you 

647
00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:38,700
know, that type of stuff and the
and this was more or less around

648
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:41,600
the time when you had you know, 
Dame Edna was probably going to 

649
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,300
starting out. 
I would have thought every late 

650
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:44,600
for six years. 
Early 70s. 

651
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,000
Barry Humphries, you know? 
Yeah. 

652
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,800
Well in because the deal, The in
private eye. 

653
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,800
The berry Mackenzie. 
Yes, stuff in private eye and 

654
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,000
then there was the film. 
Then there was the film was 

655
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,300
right these? 
These really sort of course 

656
00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:02,600
Australian idioms. 
Yeah, were quite common currency

657
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,500
around this time I think and 
okay the you know this is a this

658
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:10,000
is a very gentle film. 
But at one point I think it's 

659
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:17,300
Mick mixed character refers to 
Stanley's rather timid Drinking 

660
00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:19,700
of a schooner of lager. 
Yeah. 

661
00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:28,400
Well I can tell it isn't true. 
Blue Australian would say that 

662
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,500
know those those things have 
those type whenever you've seen 

663
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:36,000
a character and and again we go 
back to the original Point, 

664
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,300
you're making their about 
writing Australian, dialogue for

665
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:42,700
Australian, actors, by British 
writers. 

666
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,800
You know what, what's your 
favorite color, blue? 

667
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,000
What do you do for a living? 
They get all that sort of stuff,

668
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:55,100
you know, and, and looking at it
now it's, it is a very sort of 

669
00:39:55,107 --> 00:40:00,300
stereotypical type dialog, but 
that hadn't really changed in 

670
00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:03,500
Australian pictures and 
television are. 

671
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,600
But particularly the phrase, 
Fryman, your Flamin Galah. 

672
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,900
That happens a lot, which was a 
home-and-away thing. 

673
00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:12,900
What was your man on home? 
And away used to say that all 

674
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:15,700
the time? 
Elf elf apps, you're right, Al 

675
00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:17,800
Franken. 
Used to say that all the time 

676
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,200
and I love that was the mid-90s.
I suppose are the early late 80s

677
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,900
or something like that, whenever
they're started. 

678
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000
And that was sort of a stock in 
phrased. 

679
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,200
That that's a that was an 
Australian writing team Creator.

680
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,800
Oh you know true because they 
were writing it for a particular

681
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,300
audience, a particular time 
slot. 

682
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:36,600
Etc. 
So maybe they're kind of worked 

683
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,000
on it. 
But yeah, there's got to be more

684
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,700
research to the, to the dialect,
and the thing as opposed to just

685
00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:47,400
throwing and we're working on 
the basis that the They 

686
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,500
performed it as per script and 
then we could have been a great 

687
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:53,200
deal of ad-libbing going on. 
I would have thought that 

688
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,600
Cassidy would have done a fair 
bit of that himself would have 

689
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,200
been instructed to do. 
So in certain scenes to play 

690
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,600
about with it maybe maybe. 
Yeah. 

691
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,800
Interesting thing as well about 
because one of the key locations

692
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,300
in this film is, the is the bar 
in the hotel. 

693
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,500
Yes. 
And, and the sort of the pub 

694
00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:15,600
culture, Australian pop culture,
and again, sorry to get back to 

695
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,600
it. 
At the beginning of the film 

696
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,900
Wake. 
In Fright, we see an actual 

697
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:24,800
Australian Pub. 
And I don't know, Australian 

698
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,900
Licensing Laws were really 
weird. 

699
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,000
Back then I know we're 
good--we're bad. 

700
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,900
Well Clive James has talked 
about this where pups were only 

701
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:37,200
ill Hurtin. 
I think I'm right in saying this

702
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,700
and please, I'm sure. 
But I do have Australian 

703
00:41:39,700 --> 00:41:42,300
listeners, who I'm sure will be 
able to correct me on this, 

704
00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:44,300
right? 
But there was a time, I'm sure 

705
00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:47,200
that pubs in Australia, were 
only allowed to open for 

706
00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:50,800
something ridiculous. 
Couple of hours a day or 

707
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,400
something and just explain. 
We're really just dived in and 

708
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,900
got stuck in as quickly as 
possible. 

709
00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:59,100
Well, Clive James talked about 
that about people being 

710
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:04,800
absolutely rata payload, because
they were just, they would have 

711
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,400
to squeeze in as much drinking 
to these couple of hours, you 

712
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,200
know, and you see that in the 
film Wake in Fright. 

713
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,800
But in I mean, presumably a 
kookaburra Springs. 

714
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,400
They don't observe any Licensing
Laws. 

715
00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:18,200
Well, evidently not because 
there's a piano if you remember 

716
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,500
in the bar our which is used 
later on and there's drinking 

717
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:24,100
taking place while the kids are 
at school. 

718
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:27,200
So it's not, it's not, you know,
the thing is, anytime your man's

719
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,700
in the bar, it's open. 
I think that's the plan of 

720
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:33,400
action here. 
You've got the half dozen or so 

721
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,600
regulars. 
Yeah, the propping up the bar in

722
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,500
the Mayfair Hotel and they're 
all very broad Australian 

723
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:46,300
stereotypes, aren't they? 
Basically sort of, I think the 

724
00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:50,900
phrase Aziz user sort of occurs 
or Larrick, I think that's right

725
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:57,700
hard-drinking unsophisticated 
yeah ill-disciplined yeah yeah I

726
00:42:57,700 --> 00:42:59,700
think you could throw a stick 
and hit everybody in that bar 

727
00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:03,400
and that would tick every box. 
I think it's a good drinking 

728
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:09,300
seen in the in the hotel. 
Certainly you get Stanley. 

729
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:11,900
Who's really as a fish out of 
water? 

730
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:14,400
He's a big lad, but he's not a 
big drinker. 

731
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,200
Now, he doesn't. 
He realize he's made a terrible 

732
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,100
mistake. 
Coming coming to live and work 

733
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:28,500
here but he comes down into the 
bar and stammers out this 

734
00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:34,200
impromptu speech about convicts 
and Ned Kelly and he's 

735
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:40,600
introduced to Norm been banjo 
Pete, Chiller gumbo Mick and 

736
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,400
tich. 
I was going to say that they do 

737
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,800
sound like a band. 
Yeah yeah the he parent-teacher 

738
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,100
association meeting. 
Yellow women. 

739
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,100
Just just these. 
Yeah. 

740
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:53,300
Just those Lads there. 
That's right. 

741
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,400
Yes, that but yeah, Stanley is a
lightweight, but eventually 

742
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,500
develops quite a thirst doesn't,
as the film goes on, oh, as he 

743
00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:06,900
goes on, you know, I mean 
because the the, the following 

744
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:09,600
to that is that is the breakfast
at the, Cassidy's the following 

745
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,700
morning. 
Yes. 

746
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:14,100
And all of a sudden, you know, 
within the mount whack. 

747
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,700
There's another fat joke. 
You know, she says, I've major 

748
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,000
of major great big breakfast. 
They're making us drops. 

749
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,600
This breakfast off Williams, 
sausage bacon, eggs, the whole 

750
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,200
nine yards and he says I'm not a
big eater and your man says, you

751
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,600
could have fooled me and all 
that sort of stuff and yet the 

752
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,500
tables are turned then later on.
Because he's, you know, I do 

753
00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:37,700
later stage, he comes down for 
breakfast off having a right 

754
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:41,200
skinful the night before and 
polishes off the big breakfast, 

755
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,900
you know. 
So it's it's a change of change 

756
00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:46,900
of Direction but he is he's a 
fish out of water. 

757
00:44:46,900 --> 00:44:52,700
Yeah. 
And The kids evidently are that 

758
00:44:52,900 --> 00:44:57,200
one thing that he can take from 
home and here, you know, in his 

759
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,100
eyes when he goes to the school,
right? 

760
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,700
I'm on that Level Playing Field 
again. 

761
00:45:01,700 --> 00:45:05,400
Now I just do what I did before,
you know, try and get that 

762
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:10,100
message across in to try and be 
liked maybe at first. 

763
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,100
Yeah. 
And so when Harry read the 

764
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:15,400
script yeah. 
Do you think going through his 

765
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,500
head? 
The old adage, never work with 

766
00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:21,200
kids and animals. 
Because they're on every page. 

767
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,300
Yeah, yeah. 
You, you must never work with 

768
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:28,700
children or animals and, and 
here's a script with a lot of 

769
00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:31,000
children and a fair quantity of 
animal. 

770
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,700
Some of which are really not 
very nice animals to be fairly. 

771
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,000
Yeah, he's a and unfortunately, 
a lot of the animals he starts 

772
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,900
out with mosquitoes but that's 
all down because of mix son. 

773
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:47,000
Stevie he's the culprit here, 
isn't it? 

774
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:54,600
Yeah, you just Okay, the actor 
that played Stevie was called 

775
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,200
Dennis Jordan and it was his 
first and last acting Jay, I 

776
00:45:59,207 --> 00:46:03,000
didn't I didn't see him doing 
much else, I've learned, okay. 

777
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,100
I mean, he was only 12 or 13 or 
whatever, but, but he was quite,

778
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:09,400
I found it quite yet. 
Quite objectionable in there, 

779
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,700
all in the way that movie ready 
for. 

780
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,200
You know, I'm sure he is a 
lovely guide and what he's doing

781
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,300
now. 
He could be a quantity, surveyor

782
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:18,200
doesn't a florist, it doesn't 
matter. 

783
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,700
I'm sure his ass. 
Super guy. 

784
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:24,200
But I, maybe, maybe this is the 
market of the man, as convincing

785
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,300
as he was in that in that 
picture within the first five 

786
00:46:27,300 --> 00:46:28,700
minutes. 
I wanted to slap the little 

787
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:31,600
bleeder left, right and Center. 
I mean, he really was very 

788
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,900
objectionable, as you say, very,
very unpleasant, indeed. 

789
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:38,000
So he, he either did a great 
deal of research and work 

790
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,300
through his, you know, method 
based through his character or 

791
00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:43,800
that was just what he was like, 
one of the other. 

792
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:47,800
But he ticked the box. 
If they go right, we need you to

793
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,500
be a really nice. 
Nasty piece of work, no problem.

794
00:46:50,500 --> 00:46:54,000
I could do that and he does, you
know, he sells it, he's just 

795
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,700
homesick. 
That's all hey, you don't think,

796
00:46:56,700 --> 00:46:58,200
oh, God crook on us and take off
like that. 

797
00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:04,100
Gotta tap to asses. 
We've got to make things easy 

798
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:06,400
for him. 
Well, my kids came home school 

799
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,300
today, as happy as Larry and 
they said it wouldn't last long,

800
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:17,800
Hey, why kids make my dad? 
Haven't had a chance yet, they 

801
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,600
don't worry old Evans for a 
while, then we'll give it 

802
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,400
another go. 
I believe. 

803
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:28,800
One of the things that I was 
impressed by an unexpected 

804
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,200
element of this film if you 
like, go on mr. 

805
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:38,500
Morley is so they're 
approximately halfway through 

806
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:41,500
the film, we get introduced to 
this female character, there's 

807
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:46,500
not that many, no, but there's 
the actress Maggie Fitzgibbon. 

808
00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:50,700
Yeah, turns up is, surely 
character called, surely she's 

809
00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:53,100
fabulous. 
Maggie was in the actress, was 

810
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:55,300
in three episodes. 
If it's a square world in the 

811
00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:56,700
60s. 
All right. 

812
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,400
Yep. 
But she turns up and she is the 

813
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:05,600
sister of Pete Peters, the the 
member of the PTA in the bar who

814
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,300
least warms to Stanley. 
He's again, mmm. 

815
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,900
Basically as me it's, it wasn't 
terribly clear of her. 

816
00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:19,300
And I had to, I had to read old 
school, rewind that scene and go

817
00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:23,100
back earlier on because I didn't
make it very clear that they 

818
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:24,500
were brother and sister. 
Sister. 

819
00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:27,100
I really had an issue with that 
because I thought, well, what's 

820
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:29,000
the problem? 
Oh, maybe she's married. 

821
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,300
I thought you know because I 
didn't remember anything with 

822
00:48:31,300 --> 00:48:34,200
reference to saying, oh that's 
me brother Pete, you know, I or 

823
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,600
anything of that nature because 
they the first time they meet 

824
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,800
what he's unloading. 
What's the phrase she's using 

825
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,900
horses? 
Doings? 

826
00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:48,500
Yes Magnus of horses doings and 
and she and and of course she 

827
00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:51,600
can carry a sack of horses 
doings quite easily. 

828
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,900
She's staying L business Stanley
Tries and not a charger. 

829
00:48:58,700 --> 00:49:00,700
He's doing the heaving in the 
pulling in that know. 

830
00:49:00,700 --> 00:49:02,900
And it's not leaving the side of
the truck as it. 

831
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,800
I caused that they then get to 
meet on the basis or he she 

832
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,000
invites him around to tune her 
piano. 

833
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,200
Initially, we thought up 
euphemism? 

834
00:49:12,300 --> 00:49:15,000
Yeah. 
It's and so did Pete evidently 

835
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:18,000
because that's why he's angry 
that, right? 

836
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:20,000
I'll put a stop to this, you 
know. 

837
00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:23,600
Well, the thing is what 
surprised me and I was quite 

838
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,200
impressed Was that she is 
introduced as the love interest 

839
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,900
for Stanley for heresy, right? 
But she's not. 

840
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:34,100
Yeah, they kind of imply that 
she's a bit. 

841
00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:36,200
She's slightly hoarse he faced 
don't they? 

842
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,300
They kind of imply that she's 
been on the shelf that she's 

843
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,200
she's going to be a yes, please 
do the rest of her life. 

844
00:49:42,700 --> 00:49:45,600
Yeah. 
And she I mean they aren't as 

845
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,200
she's interested in her animals 
and their offices and all that 

846
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,400
sort of stuff, and she turns up 
the first time. 

847
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,200
She turns up, she's doing about 
90 miles an hour on the back of 

848
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,200
this horse. 
And arrives in scene. 

849
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,200
I mean it's slides its way and 
singing and this big dust 

850
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,300
everywhere and she dives off and
then she how he might I'm Shayla

851
00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:05,500
and gives it all this. 
You know she's fantastic. 

852
00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:09,300
She's a very in-your-face type 
of character but she says to him

853
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:11,700
you know, though probably told 
you about me and all this sort 

854
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:15,400
of stuff and he's taking it all 
in this tribe, but I think he 

855
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,100
does the same thing that I 
probably did. 

856
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:18,900
I went. 
Wow, where did you come for? 

857
00:50:18,908 --> 00:50:21,500
Your you've really changed the 
game of this particular thing 

858
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:23,900
because all we had was these 
drinkers get over here. 

859
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:27,600
And this little mom and the kids
and now all of a sudden you've 

860
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,900
turned up and she kind of took 
that that those few moments in 

861
00:50:31,908 --> 00:50:34,200
the film, to it to a slightly 
different level and you thought.

862
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,900
Okay, I can I can get into this.
Now this is all right. 

863
00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:41,000
She said she becomes the 
strongest character in strongest

864
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,300
in terms of physicality, in 
terms of performance, in terms 

865
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:50,800
of balls, Enos really? 
Yeah, because Pete doesn't want 

866
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,800
Stanley to become entangled with
his sister. 

867
00:50:54,100 --> 00:50:59,000
I guess it's just because he 
wants her to look after him and 

868
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,000
his son because he's a widower, 
hasn't he? 

869
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,200
Oh, that's right. 
Yeah, it doesn't want her to be,

870
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,400
you know, focusing her 
attentions on on Stan, Lee 

871
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,800
Evans. 
So so Pete's very against this 

872
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,200
whole notion of the two of them 
getting together and he he 

873
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:19,200
feigns he finds a dozen injuries
and injuries hurt his back or 

874
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,900
something with the horses doings
in order to interrupt their 

875
00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:29,200
little tryst. 
And she goes ballistic and very 

876
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,000
matter-of-factly. 
She doesn't let understand me 

877
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,600
that, you know, this is what's 
going on. 

878
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,100
She she lets him drive drive off
and then as moment he drives 

879
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:43,200
off, she goes in and she and 
Pete is terrified and he really 

880
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,600
runs out the back and she takes 
his beer but his precious beer 

881
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,200
bottles out. 
And she just begins taking 

882
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,100
potshots, not just at them, but 
at her brother at her brother 

883
00:51:53,100 --> 00:51:56,300
hand and it is Cream lie, it's a
great scene because she's you 

884
00:51:56,300 --> 00:52:01,600
know, she's not, she's she is 
angry but she's harnessing that 

885
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,500
anger and and using it to to 
hurt him. 

886
00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:08,300
The most by what? 
Bye-bye destroy shooting is a 

887
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:12,000
beer, you know, because he even 
says not me beer, you know, he 

888
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,800
makes it very clear that no 
anything but that and you also 

889
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:19,900
just from a, from a, an action 
perspective when she fires that 

890
00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:24,100
rifle, if you see her blink, I'd
be very surprised she is Stony 

891
00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:26,500
Let me go. 
Wow. 

892
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,500
You really believe that she's 
actually taking potshots at her 

893
00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:31,000
brother and she's going to hit 
him in a minute. 

894
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,800
If he stops moving about, she's 
going to get him. 

895
00:52:56,300 --> 00:53:47,200
He gets the walk room. 
Bloody little fat Wells pump. 

896
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,100
Yeah, that's a very good sign 
and it is it does make her an 

897
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:53,300
extremely strong character from 
an audience point of view you 

898
00:53:53,300 --> 00:53:54,400
go. 
Oh yeah! 

899
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,800
She's all right. 
And you know what, she'd be very

900
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,500
good with with Stanley two of 
them together would because he 

901
00:54:00,500 --> 00:54:03,700
needs a friend right now and 
she's, she's all this. 

902
00:54:03,700 --> 00:54:05,700
You know, she's good, she's in 
charge of everything. 

903
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,800
The brothers scared of her. 
So yeah, I think she's a very 

904
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,600
important. 
And it's a good saying that. 

905
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,500
Very good. 
Yeah, yeah, drunk acting in this

906
00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:18,300
film, from cacti trunk acting in
general. 

907
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:22,400
It son can't very rarely done. 
Well is it it's very rarely done

908
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,700
well, because what people do is 
they slur their words of fall 

909
00:54:24,700 --> 00:54:28,200
over and when in point of fact, 
you know somebody who's drunk is

910
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,700
trying to walk straight and talk
properly, so it is taken to the 

911
00:54:32,700 --> 00:54:37,800
Other Extreme mind. 
You met Cassidy, does it 

912
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,300
terribly well because he's kind 
of played that character a lot 

913
00:54:40,300 --> 00:54:43,600
with The Walkabout, but he has 
played that character quite a 

914
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,400
lot. 
So he's always, you know, gives 

915
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,300
the impression of inebriation 
without actually pushing the 

916
00:54:50,300 --> 00:54:55,100
boundary too far. 
But yeah, it's a, there is a 

917
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:58,900
great deal of and action and all
of a sudden people are falling 

918
00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:00,500
about slow. 
Slurring their words left, 

919
00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:02,000
right? 
And center and making rash 

920
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,300
decisions, but it is sweet 
watching. 

921
00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:09,100
Harry drunk in this house. 
Yeah, he's been here. 

922
00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:11,800
He's never going to be It had 
the greatest actor in the world 

923
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,300
is he, but, but he's very 
engaging. 

924
00:55:14,300 --> 00:55:18,100
He's very watchable, he's very 
watchable. 

925
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:21,900
And also it gives you that thing
ago, you know, I quite fancy 

926
00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:23,500
going out for a drink with him. 
No. 

927
00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:26,200
Yeah. 
You do you think of all of them?

928
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,800
You know, Peter is going to 
really, really anger. 

929
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,900
Somebody at some point during 
the bar. 

930
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,700
Yeah, spikes going to be all 
right, for a few minutes and 

931
00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:37,000
then might get a bit sidetracked
and then go off and do something

932
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,100
else. 
But Harry would be with you the 

933
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:43,400
entire duration of the Thing and
then ultimately the bear 

934
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,000
Singsong. 
He'd be leading it to be the 

935
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,900
whole nine yards. 
I mean, he was, he looks like it

936
00:55:46,900 --> 00:55:48,600
would be huge fun to be around 
me. 

937
00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:52,100
Yeah I have I have I have gone 
on record to say he would be the

938
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:54,600
one. 
I'd like to go out for a few 

939
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,600
pints with sure. 
Quite right to ya quite round 

940
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,800
two and he likes. 
Ellis took you out you'd be in 

941
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,300
prison. 
Yeah it's an inherently 

942
00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:04,600
dangerous crap and Terry did 
like a drink. 

943
00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:08,600
Yes. 
So you know he could knock them 

944
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:13,400
back, I believe. 
That and the plot of this film 

945
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,700
is essentially vailable, 
somewhere. 

946
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,900
Essentially, the the Harry 
Nilsson read the character, 

947
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,500
Stan, Lee Evans, hmm. 
He's miserable really, isn't he,

948
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:30,100
he's covered in mozzie bites. 
He's got this very small 

949
00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:34,700
classroom of kids and, and also 
there's, there's a, there's a 

950
00:56:34,707 --> 00:56:37,900
yearning for home, you know, he 
sits upstairs, he lies in bed at

951
00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:43,500
night, playing the songs on the 
Hope record up from the choir in

952
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:46,600
Wales. 
You know, he misses that sound, 

953
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,800
he misses the kids, he misses 
whales and you know, because 

954
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,200
they're they're downstairs 
drink. 

955
00:56:52,300 --> 00:56:54,000
How much, how long, how much 
longer are you going to be 

956
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,200
playing that up the same song 
over and over again because it's

957
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,100
on the tape recorder thing, but 
it's comforting to him, it's 

958
00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:02,800
comfort. 
Blanket is the music, the songs.

959
00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:08,200
And I think ultimately, you 
know, when he gets to that 

960
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,900
stage, where he realizes it 
well, You know, I could have 

961
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:13,500
some fun here with the kids and 
it's sounding. 

962
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:18,100
All right, but being thrown the,
the left field of, oh, we've 

963
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:20,700
entered you into a competition. 
All of a sudden UPS, the ante a 

964
00:57:20,700 --> 00:57:23,900
bit? 
Yes, well, most of them that 

965
00:57:23,900 --> 00:57:29,600
live there, apart from Pete are 
terrified, that Stan is going to

966
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,300
get so fed up that he leaves. 
Yeah, because they, taking bets 

967
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:36,200
art that they need a teacher. 
They absolutely need to teacher.

968
00:57:36,700 --> 00:57:44,000
So Mick, enters the Class into a
Australian schools choir 

969
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:50,900
competition and suggest that 
Stanley can teach them and in 

970
00:57:50,900 --> 00:57:53,700
Stanley's quite annoyed. 
By this at first, his knees 

971
00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:55,400
quite dismissive of the whole 
notion. 

972
00:57:55,700 --> 00:57:58,200
It's a decision that's been made
out of his hands. 

973
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,700
If it's his choir, you know, if 
it's got that his school at the 

974
00:58:01,700 --> 00:58:04,900
school's competition, well, why 
wasn't he involved in it? 

975
00:58:04,900 --> 00:58:09,300
And, and he is genuinely annoyed
by the whole thing, it's one of 

976
00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:11,500
those stories, you know, hit, 
you know, Know which direction 

977
00:58:11,500 --> 00:58:12,800
it's going to go, of course, 
don't you? 

978
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:17,500
And I don't want to jump ahead 
to much but essentially through 

979
00:58:17,900 --> 00:58:23,000
subterfuge and through heard 
ball of subterfuge, yet that 

980
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,700
annoying little sheesh, I talk 
Stevie. 

981
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:32,500
Oh sure, I do quite right. 
It's what they're switching 

982
00:58:32,500 --> 00:58:36,800
tapes for the application. 
So he's off the tape of the 

983
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,000
actual Welsh School choir. 
That's right. 

984
00:58:40,300 --> 00:58:43,300
And And to the application 
committee and that's why they 

985
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:48,300
got invited to go and take part 
proving also, having said that 

986
00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:53,000
proving that the Welsh choir 
were magnificent. 

987
00:58:53,300 --> 00:58:56,000
You know, they were really 
really good and on the strength 

988
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,500
of hearing that tape. 
Oh yeah, absolutely. 

989
00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:00,400
Come on in. 
Yeah, will welcome you with open

990
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,500
arms. 
You know that was a problem. 

991
00:59:01,500 --> 00:59:05,800
So so Stan these kind of really 
thrilled about the whole thing 

992
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,900
and then when he realizes what's
happened, he's not amused. 

993
00:59:07,900 --> 00:59:09,400
But then it is, because you 
think so. 

994
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,800
Hang on that. 
The choir in Wales, they, 

995
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,400
they're the ones that got me 
there in the first place. 

996
00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:15,800
Yeah. 
There's something I forgot to 

997
00:59:15,808 --> 00:59:17,400
mention. 
By the way, wasn't that a 

998
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:22,200
wonderful rig out that wonderful
outfit that Stanley was wearing 

999
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,800
when he went to visit, went to 
tune Shirley's piano. 

1000
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,000
He can you picture it in your 
head? 

1001
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:33,000
It's it's the it's the car key 
thing and and the knee socks 

1002
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,400
knee socks variably socks with 
brogues or no, they weren't. 

1003
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,500
They weren't army-issue sand. 
Boo. 

1004
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,900
Oxford. 
So Saturday Oxford's. 

1005
00:59:42,900 --> 00:59:44,500
Yeah. 
Yep. 

1006
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,600
Short short sleeve shirt tie 
shorts. 

1007
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:52,400
I was this a socks pulled up to 
his knees and an orange hat and 

1008
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,300
a tissue. 
Now the whole shorts socks 

1009
00:59:56,300 --> 00:59:59,400
pulled up to the knees and 
sensible. 

1010
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:05,600
Walking shoes look is very, it's
very 1970s 1980s, small town, 

1011
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,400
New Zealand to me. 
Oh I see, it's brought, it 

1012
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,000
brought it all home, did it? 
Let men of my father's 

1013
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:17,400
generation around, you know, the
late 70s in particularly Clement

1014
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,400
weather, right? 
Did rarely be seen outside, 

1015
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:25,900
without the required shorts, the
knee socks, you know, pulled 

1016
01:00:25,900 --> 01:00:29,000
right up to the knees and the 
sensor I chose since my shoes 

1017
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,800
and a special occasion would oh 
and Tybee require tie of course 

1018
01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:35,200
short time the same outfit that.
I that was that. 

1019
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,800
Yeah, that the addition. 
Right? 

1020
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,700
You got it. 
Mmm. 

1021
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,600
So I suppose there's no Not a 
huge amount to say other than 

1022
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:46,200
the fact that we there's a 
there's a minor bit of potential

1023
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:51,400
Jeopardy. 
When Pete tells Stanley that 

1024
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,300
will basically lies and says 
that everyone thinks he's an 

1025
01:00:54,300 --> 01:00:55,500
idiot. 
And yeah. 

1026
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,000
Exactly. 
And so he takes umbrage at this 

1027
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,900
and decides to ride off into the
sunset and the slowest nag that 

1028
01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:08,400
he didn't, who is referred to as
old nail will now come on. 

1029
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,100
That's what? 
Would you send over a fast walk 

1030
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,100
and quite obviously, you know, 
it he's been traveling for hours

1031
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:23,500
and has probably gone about 350 
yards and has decided, I must 

1032
01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:26,400
have a pee and then steps off 
and Nails away like a rat up a 

1033
01:01:26,408 --> 01:01:28,400
drainpipe. 
I think opposite direction. 

1034
01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:33,300
Yeah. 
The but the bus containing the 

1035
01:01:33,300 --> 01:01:39,100
choir and and of course surely 
catches up to Stan because he's 

1036
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:42,800
walking now. 
Chef Luke, but Chef Luke, he's 

1037
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,000
totally ready. 
Richard, he totally dejected. 

1038
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:50,000
His luggage has gone with. 
Now, the nag, all he's got, is 

1039
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:55,700
his tape recorder and he's 
walking along and, and the bus 

1040
01:01:55,700 --> 01:02:00,400
pulls up behind them and surely 
explains about Pete being a div 

1041
01:02:00,500 --> 01:02:04,600
and, and and Stanley has 
reluctantly at first one over 

1042
01:02:04,700 --> 01:02:06,900
but then jumps on a starts 
conducting. 

1043
01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:09,200
The choir all, isn't it starts 
conducting the choir? 

1044
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,300
Yes of course. 
And then we have the the scene 

1045
01:02:12,300 --> 01:02:15,600
where they arrive and in And 
they arrive at the competition, 

1046
01:02:15,700 --> 01:02:19,600
and for some reason, the the 
entire event is to be broadcast 

1047
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,600
twice on the radio National 
radio. 

1048
01:02:23,700 --> 01:02:26,200
I don't think that much content 
that those days. 

1049
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,800
So they took what they could get
really. 

1050
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,400
Do your best. 
Exactly. 

1051
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,500
And then, but back in kookaburra
Springs, everybody's trying to 

1052
01:02:31,500 --> 01:02:33,900
listen to the thing on. 
Either a transistor radio or the

1053
01:02:33,900 --> 01:02:36,600
radio of the Jeep at CERN. 
Yes. 

1054
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,500
And as you would expect, no, 
they didn't win the competition,

1055
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,200
they didn't even get second or 
even third did It's very well 

1056
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:44,900
though. 
No, they got. 

1057
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:48,100
They got a special prize for 
turning out. 

1058
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,800
Yeah, well done for being quite 
mediocre but you've done you 

1059
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,000
come for the farthest. 
So on the strength of that, well

1060
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,700
done. 
You totally totally. 

1061
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:05,400
Yeah and very quickly the film 
wraps up because we see Stanley 

1062
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,000
and surely getting married. 
It's a wedding wedding. 

1063
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,700
That's right. 
And everyone is delighted and 

1064
01:03:10,700 --> 01:03:14,000
they presumably go off on their 
honeymoon on the In the Port 

1065
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:18,300
Stanley in and the plane lands 
and who steps off that plane. 

1066
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,500
Oh, good grief, but am I here? 
Oh yes. 

1067
01:03:24,500 --> 01:03:26,400
The the worst Derek Nimmo 
impression. 

1068
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,500
I know. 
I'm sorry, but but I've actually

1069
01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:31,900
written in my notes, I've 
written WTF. 

1070
01:03:31,900 --> 01:03:37,000
Derek Nimmo. 
Exclamation about a Springs. 

1071
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,300
Stiffen the lizards have another
flavor in poem. 

1072
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,100
Look after new teaching. 
What's your voice? 

1073
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,000
Of all the people Derek Nimmo. 
Well, you just think Derek was 

1074
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,300
probably touring Australia at 
the time on. 

1075
01:04:03,900 --> 01:04:06,700
Yes, I'm most likely and of 
course, he would be known to 

1076
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,400
Jimmy Grafton and Harry and all 
the rest, and Jimmy Gilbert. 

1077
01:04:10,700 --> 01:04:12,800
They probably just a little bit 
fancy coming in doing half an 

1078
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,600
hour filming. 
There's a pint in it for you or 

1079
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,800
whatever it is. 
The, well in that case or sweet 

1080
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,500
sherry, I would imagine or 
switch. 

1081
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:20,300
Yes. 
Yes. 

1082
01:04:20,500 --> 01:04:26,400
Uh, I think I'll have one of 
those and Pete actually gets my 

1083
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:27,700
favorite line at the end of the 
picture. 

1084
01:04:27,700 --> 01:04:31,100
Do you mean? 
He says when he uses armor, I'm 

1085
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:35,300
not losing a sister more ongoing
effect, little Welsh Palm. 

1086
01:04:35,700 --> 01:04:41,900
He says Keeping everything good 
old-fashioned and British. 

1087
01:04:41,900 --> 01:04:44,400
Yes, yeah. 
Harry was a good sport with the 

1088
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,000
fat jokes. 
He was a good sport. 

1089
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,600
That was a good sport. 
And I think, you know, if that 

1090
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,000
hadn't been, if anybody else had
been cast in that role, it may 

1091
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,300
not have worked you know that 
he's absolutely essential to it 

1092
01:04:54,300 --> 01:04:58,000
because of who Harry is. 
It's not Evans. 

1093
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,700
But who Harry is the reason that
Evans works is because it's 

1094
01:05:01,700 --> 01:05:04,400
Harry seeking playing. 
You know you have anybody else 

1095
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,500
doing it? 
Donald Houston France. 

1096
01:05:06,500 --> 01:05:08,900
Let's say that Donald Houston. 
Has offered that thing. 

1097
01:05:08,900 --> 01:05:10,300
It would it just wouldn't 
happen. 

1098
01:05:10,300 --> 01:05:12,700
It wouldn't have worked. 
It would have been, you know, 

1099
01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:14,500
all right, either done what he 
did. 

1100
01:05:14,500 --> 01:05:17,800
But he wouldn't have worked as 
well because he's not Harry 

1101
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,600
sake, and I think that's 
massively important. 

1102
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:22,300
Well, he didn't have the, he 
didn't have a set of pipes and 

1103
01:05:22,300 --> 01:05:24,700
I'm like, Harry. 
Oh pipes. 

1104
01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:27,200
I tell you, hmm. 
He's got some, but on the 

1105
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:31,700
subject of Music, can we just 
briefly mention the, the music 

1106
01:05:31,700 --> 01:05:34,700
on the out that the outro of 
the, of the, of the mood. 

1107
01:05:34,700 --> 01:05:37,300
For the entire? 
It's, it's called someday. 

1108
01:05:37,300 --> 01:05:39,900
It's written. 
By Winifred Atwell, right? 

1109
01:05:39,900 --> 01:05:45,800
Yes, who of course discovered 
Matt Monroe and inspired certain

1110
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,700
others including Keith Emerson 
and Elton John as far as pianos 

1111
01:05:48,700 --> 01:05:53,800
concern and wrote black and 
white rag which was the pop 

1112
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,000
Black theme. 
I've never made the connection 

1113
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,300
between the two but then I 
realized later on I realized 

1114
01:05:58,300 --> 01:05:59,700
what that was. 
Once I did a bit of research in 

1115
01:05:59,700 --> 01:06:03,700
the yes, black and white rag, 
which is the theme to pot black.

1116
01:06:03,700 --> 01:06:06,700
Those of a certain age, you 
would watch snooker on a Tuesday

1117
01:06:06,700 --> 01:06:10,500
evening, On bbc2. 
Yeah and for those people who 

1118
01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:14,300
are watching a black and white, 
the green is now behind the 

1119
01:06:14,300 --> 01:06:15,900
blue. 
Good. 

1120
01:06:15,900 --> 01:06:20,700
I was free for lunch. 
Big Ted which bring Ted the mat 

1121
01:06:20,700 --> 01:06:23,800
Monro who by the way I don't 
think we mentioned on last 

1122
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,500
week's show we covered the film.
Hoffman with Peter Sellers. 

1123
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,900
Oh I love that film. 
And Matt Monroe was the was 

1124
01:06:32,900 --> 01:06:36,700
crooning the, the the opening 
theme, absolutely and what a 

1125
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,300
gorgeous drunk. 
Gets his name misspelled in the,

1126
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:41,500
in the titles as yeah. 
They stick a neon. 

1127
01:06:41,500 --> 01:06:45,200
It don't ya there with the way 
out that that was sunstruck. 

1128
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,400
If you go in with high 
expectations you're going to get

1129
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,100
mugged, right? 
So that's that's the major 

1130
01:06:51,100 --> 01:06:52,300
thing. 
I think that's a lot with the 

1131
01:06:52,300 --> 01:06:53,900
view. 
If you go in thinking, this is 

1132
01:06:53,900 --> 01:06:56,300
going to be amazing. 
It's not but it's going to be 

1133
01:06:56,700 --> 01:06:59,300
really, and it's going to be an 
entertaining little yarn for an 

1134
01:06:59,300 --> 01:07:02,400
hour and a bit. 
Yeah, and I'm watching Harry do 

1135
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,200
what he does best, you know, he 
flummox a good Evans, it's 

1136
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:07,400
Evans, you know, all that sort 
of stuff. 

1137
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:08,900
Yeah. 
Little lines and stuff that he 

1138
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:10,800
was a great. 
You know, it's a good film had a

1139
01:07:10,808 --> 01:07:11,900
catchphrase. 
Good Heavens. 

1140
01:07:11,900 --> 01:07:20,700
It's it had a catchphrase. 
Yes, I kind of anticipated. 

1141
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,100
As I said to you before we 
started recording, John that we 

1142
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:26,900
eight minutes in his. 
That was a kind of an idea that 

1143
01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:31,100
the show might I under run for 
one night because you want to do

1144
01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:38,600
the song now or will I wait till
the bowling a love in love Well,

1145
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:45,400
well done. 
So what I did was I thought if 

1146
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,000
the situation arose, that we had
time to spare. 

1147
01:07:48,500 --> 01:07:51,100
Yes. 
I petitioned on the social 

1148
01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:54,900
medias for questions, I petition
people for questions. 

1149
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,500
Either pertaining to this show 
or two goons or individual, 

1150
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,300
goons, or comedy in general 
anything. 

1151
01:08:02,300 --> 01:08:06,000
I just said, anyone got any 
questions that myself and John 

1152
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:11,000
can can run? 
Through and literally had all 

1153
01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:15,100
thousands upon thousands of 
people who didn't respond. 

1154
01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:19,700
Yeah. 
It's going to encourage that she

1155
01:08:19,700 --> 01:08:23,200
because I got quite a quite a 
number of questions. 

1156
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,399
There were some wiseacres of 
course who isn't there? 

1157
01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:28,100
Always he didn't ask proper 
questions. 

1158
01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:31,899
But anyway, Trish kid on 
Twitter. 

1159
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:34,899
Hmm. 
What about the drains in, 

1160
01:08:34,899 --> 01:08:37,500
Hackney know, what about I tell 
you what? 

1161
01:08:37,700 --> 01:08:42,100
About those drains a, how many 
more times I got to be full of 

1162
01:08:42,500 --> 01:08:44,000
Peace. 
Sewage, shocking. 

1163
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:49,700
Don't God, you John dredge by 
John, John dredge those drains 

1164
01:08:49,700 --> 01:08:54,700
in Hackney, just he well done. 
He said, I've heard Woody Allen 

1165
01:08:54,700 --> 01:08:57,300
mentioned that the goons were 
broadcast on him on American 

1166
01:08:57,300 --> 01:08:59,000
radio. 
Any information on this where 

1167
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:06,000
they popular and I didn't have 
time to really Look into this. 

1168
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,300
Mean my mum, I knew my memory 
was that. 

1169
01:09:09,300 --> 01:09:13,500
Yeah, they were the worst shows,
played on American radio in the 

1170
01:09:13,899 --> 01:09:16,300
mid to late 50s. 
I don't think they particularly 

1171
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,700
caught on that. 
Don't know that they, I suppose 

1172
01:09:19,700 --> 01:09:22,200
the biggest Legacy in America 
really is they're hugely 

1173
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:27,800
influential to the guys that 
created fire sign theater, 

1174
01:09:28,700 --> 01:09:32,300
right? 
Which nobody really remembers 

1175
01:09:32,300 --> 01:09:34,800
these days I suppose, but they 
themselves are very influential.

1176
01:09:34,899 --> 01:09:39,600
It'll sort of Comedy troupe. 
Feel like I did find there was 

1177
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,399
in a very early GSP as 
newsletter. 

1178
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,700
One of the American members of 
the dsps wrote a short sort of 

1179
01:09:47,700 --> 01:09:50,300
piece for the newsletter. 
And I'm just going to quickly 

1180
01:09:50,300 --> 01:09:52,600
read a little bit of this just 
because I think it's quite 

1181
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,800
interesting. 
But he says, I think the first 

1182
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,100
time I heard of a goon show was 
a an oblique mention of it by 

1183
01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:02,000
Harry cecum on the old. 
David Frost show just by chance,

1184
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,800
I noted on FM radio and FM 
radio. 

1185
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,700
Should listing the program in 
the newspaper and voila, a year 

1186
01:10:08,700 --> 01:10:12,000
and a half of the gun show every
week but you ask, what is the 

1187
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,500
American reaction to the gun 
show? 

1188
01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:16,500
The reply must be as John Lennon
pointed out as review of the 

1189
01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:19,500
scripts in the New York Times. 
That most people don't think 

1190
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:21,800
it's funny. 
Most people in America, enjoy 

1191
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,400
the Marx Brothers. 
They may have laughed at Spike 

1192
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,700
Milligan film sketches on the 
Marty Feldman show but they seem

1193
01:10:27,700 --> 01:10:30,200
unable to laugh at a world where
everybody is crazy. 

1194
01:10:31,500 --> 01:10:34,500
Then he says I think they ought 
to shoot those people. 

1195
01:10:39,700 --> 01:10:42,200
And ironic statement doesn't, he
he says another point. 

1196
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:43,500
A lot of Americans have 
difficulty. 

1197
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:47,100
Understanding what is said, the 
accents and quickness, Etc. 

1198
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,100
So it can be said that the 
majority of people I've played 

1199
01:10:50,100 --> 01:10:53,500
the shows for, or encouraged to 
listen when broadcast were made 

1200
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:57,600
have deemed the show stupid, not
funny, or best of all British. 

1201
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,600
Okay? 
We are separated by a common 

1202
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,400
language that. 
Yeah, he says, the gun shows 

1203
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:07,100
absurdity makes it. 
Omni National do for truly 

1204
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:10,300
great. 
Insane, ridiculous idiot, humor 

1205
01:11:10,300 --> 01:11:13,100
humor. 
No country can claim a monopoly.

1206
01:11:13,300 --> 01:11:15,100
American politics are trying too
hard. 

1207
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,000
Yeah. 
And that was a good from a guy 

1208
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,000
called Robert Orson cap off. 
And that was from around about 

1209
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,700
the time. 
I think that Richard Nixon was 

1210
01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:25,600
resigning. 
So riding you go. 

1211
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,000
Thanks for that question John. 
Nick Kirby it Kirby? 

1212
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,400
Interesting question. 
He says when I was a lad I was 

1213
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,700
in the kitchen with my mom and 
she was Listen listening to a 

1214
01:11:35,700 --> 01:11:39,700
repeat broadcast on radio for he
was probably my first exposure 

1215
01:11:39,700 --> 01:11:44,000
to the goons brackets. 
Early 1980s the episode featured

1216
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,700
see green having to repeatedly 
climb stairs and get through a 

1217
01:11:46,708 --> 01:11:49,500
door with many in Henry on the 
other side. 

1218
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,900
He says against the backdrop of 
a naval war against the Dutch. 

1219
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,200
I remember what I heard being 
hilarious, but I've never been 

1220
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,800
able to track down which episode
this was any thought. 

1221
01:12:01,700 --> 01:12:05,100
And I immediately thought that's
probably and I checked and I was

1222
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:09,700
correct, probably the episode 
personal narrative from series 

1223
01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:12,300
say you are good. 
It's funny enough. 

1224
01:12:12,300 --> 01:12:15,800
It's one of the shows that I've 
not heard listen to as many 

1225
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:20,000
times as most of the others for 
reasons that it's not one that I

1226
01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:23,200
it's one of the the the later 
episodes that I got if you know 

1227
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,400
what I mean. 
Yeah. 

1228
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,400
So I haven't committed it to 
memory as I had many of the 

1229
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:32,300
others but I knew that there was
a sort of a Dutch naval war 

1230
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,800
backdrop to it, right? 
And I checked and yes it was it 

1231
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:41,500
was actually repeated on Sunday,
the 14th of August 1983 and the 

1232
01:12:41,500 --> 01:12:47,100
show is actually expanded from a
series 3 show that doesn't exist

1233
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:50,100
anymore but we do have the 
script and the show was called 

1234
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:55,300
the Plymouth ho Amada and bits 
of that were then reused in 

1235
01:12:55,300 --> 01:13:01,700
revised for the 2001 goon again.
Well that Dirk maggs put 

1236
01:13:01,700 --> 01:13:03,200
together. 
Oh Dirk yeah, she's cool. 

1237
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,600
Yeah so yeah so it's personal 
narrative neck. 

1238
01:13:06,700 --> 01:13:10,300
So seek that out it's probably 
on Spotify or at least BBC 

1239
01:13:10,300 --> 01:13:15,800
sounds well. 
Now we've got a question here 

1240
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:20,300
from another one about the goons
actually from Duncan Gray and he

1241
01:13:20,300 --> 01:13:23,000
says this is rather obscure but 
it's always gnawed at me. 

1242
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,000
There's a line in the gold plate
robbery. 

1243
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:31,500
I knows a bald-headed old woman 
called Rat Lab lat And I know 

1244
01:13:31,500 --> 01:13:32,900
the lining means and it gets it.
It does. 

1245
01:13:32,900 --> 01:13:34,800
It gets a huge response from the
audience. 

1246
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,500
It's William. 
I know the board any real woman 

1247
01:13:38,500 --> 01:14:04,800
called Rattler Bluffs. 
And Duncan says, who knows what 

1248
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,900
Antics were happening on stage 
at the same time. 

1249
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,400
He says, I've never been able to
find any reference to this 

1250
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,900
person. 
Lady doctor was easy to find 

1251
01:14:11,900 --> 01:14:15,200
because he get lady doctor 
referenced in better putting her

1252
01:14:15,900 --> 01:14:17,000
right? 
Not wrestler. 

1253
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,800
Blots, does anyone have any idea
who Rattler blots was? 

1254
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,300
Right. 
And I'd always thought it was 

1255
01:14:24,300 --> 01:14:28,100
just one of those amusing names.
You know, it's just spikes just 

1256
01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:32,700
come up with a funny name right?
However, but well it well no, no

1257
01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:34,600
I haven't got any great 
discovery. 

1258
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,400
Oh, to impart. 
But what part of me actually 

1259
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:44,500
wonders whether Rattler was 
slang for a type of lady if you 

1260
01:14:44,508 --> 01:14:47,200
know what I mean. 
Oh I see yes. 

1261
01:14:47,700 --> 01:14:49,500
And as for blots would I go 
there? 

1262
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:53,100
You know I just wonder whether I
just wondered actually fill 

1263
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:58,200
Shoebridge Because Duncan posted
this as this question on 

1264
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:04,200
Facebook, and then Phil, Phil 
replied suggesting that Rattler 

1265
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,700
was possibly someone who 
frequently broke wind. 

1266
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,700
Okay. 
So more or less where I was 

1267
01:15:08,700 --> 01:15:13,300
going up to a point Phil 
actually film. 

1268
01:15:13,300 --> 01:15:15,600
I met for a couple of points 
last week as well, so high 

1269
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,200
fight. 
So yeah, I just think, I think 

1270
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,100
it was just a funny name that 
Spike came up with, which it 

1271
01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:23,700
just the delivery of Sellers as 
William. 

1272
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,500
It was just Spot on. 
It was Chef kiss you know and it

1273
01:15:26,500 --> 01:15:28,500
just hit a funny bone with the 
audience. 

1274
01:15:28,500 --> 01:15:30,400
Yeah. 
And and that could have said 

1275
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:31,800
anything but the way he 
delivered it. 

1276
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:37,400
Absolutely, absolutely. 
And then you've got question, it

1277
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,400
was not really a question. 
It's more of a talking point 

1278
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,000
from Michael Seeley. 
He says, I think the Goon show 

1279
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,700
is one of those programs that 
benefited from its enthusiastic 

1280
01:15:44,700 --> 01:15:47,700
audience. 
There we go without their Roars 

1281
01:15:47,700 --> 01:15:49,100
of laughter. 
I don't think the goons would 

1282
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:52,200
have been as effective. 
It's nice to know. 

1283
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,100
There are bigger idiots than 
yourself around Glad we didn't 

1284
01:15:55,100 --> 01:15:58,000
have Tuscan salamis or starlings
every week. 

1285
01:15:59,300 --> 01:16:01,200
Hmm. 
Well, that's a bit unfair Tuscan

1286
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:05,900
salami didn't have an orchestra 
for that particular week's show,

1287
01:16:06,500 --> 01:16:08,400
but I still think it's very 
strong and the starlings 

1288
01:16:09,900 --> 01:16:11,200
famously didn't have an 
audience. 

1289
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,700
It was just goons without an 
audience, okay? 

1290
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,400
But he says, on the other hand, 
there's nothing said in a comedy

1291
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,200
then an audience that may well 
be smiling along, but when they 

1292
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,200
do titter makes you feel. 
The program is misfiring and you

1293
01:16:23,208 --> 01:16:27,000
can feel the actors died. 
Buying their deaths so audiences

1294
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,300
and the goons discuss. 
Okay? 

1295
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:34,500
So I would say, yeah, I think 
the starlings and and I think 

1296
01:16:34,500 --> 01:16:37,100
maybe Michael was thinking of 
the, the show called The reason 

1297
01:16:37,100 --> 01:16:41,400
why which was the other non 
audience goon show and they're 

1298
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:46,400
both, they're both very charming
and funny in their own right. 

1299
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,900
But there is something missing, 
definitely not having an 

1300
01:16:49,900 --> 01:16:53,100
audience and I think that the 
goocher audience at a member who

1301
01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:54,300
it was was a dentist Main 
Wheels. 

1302
01:16:55,700 --> 01:16:58,600
Said that the gun show was the 
only show he worked on where he 

1303
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,300
had to cut out laughter from the
audience rather than in. 

1304
01:17:02,300 --> 01:17:05,000
You know, I see those. 
There was too much of it rather 

1305
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,600
than patch in audience, loved 
order to increase it. 

1306
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,400
You know, the Goon show does 
need the audience, really, you 

1307
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,800
know, I think comedy. 
Needs an audience. 

1308
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,500
Someone you would think for a 
particularly from a from spikes 

1309
01:17:17,500 --> 01:17:22,800
perspective of writing these 
episodes, the essential thing 

1310
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,900
from any writing perspective is 
to have that immediate feedback 

1311
01:17:26,900 --> 01:17:29,600
that moment where you know that 
line is in the right place, 

1312
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,100
that's been delivered correctly.
Look, we've got a laugh there 

1313
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:35,300
where I thought we'd get a laugh
there that works, that didn't 

1314
01:17:35,300 --> 01:17:36,800
work. 
So I'll change that next time 

1315
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,500
around but you need that 
immediate feedback from the 

1316
01:17:39,500 --> 01:17:43,400
audience and particularly with 
something like the goons where 

1317
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,300
there's so much going on and 
characters dropping in and 

1318
01:17:46,300 --> 01:17:49,500
dropping out, and all sorts of 
moments happening, you need to 

1319
01:17:49,500 --> 01:17:53,400
have that immediacy of the whole
thing to have that and not have 

1320
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,000
feedback from an audience. 
Would be well, I don't know. 

1321
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,300
That would scare me half to 
death. 

1322
01:17:57,300 --> 01:17:59,000
I think if I was in their 
position. 

1323
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,300
Yes. 
Maximum I/O. 

1324
01:18:00,300 --> 01:18:08,400
I totally agree. 
Told ya, so thanks Michael David

1325
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,400
brunt. 
The great International 

1326
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,300
Christmas pudding. 
Where is it? 

1327
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:20,200
Well, Africa over to Africa. 
I think Tim Worthington. 

1328
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,800
Hello, Tim. 
He sent me two questions. 

1329
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,100
The first one, I'm not going to 
answer because As you change his

1330
01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:29,600
mind about it. 
But it was typically because 

1331
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,700
it's Tim, it was to do with mr. 
Robinson's quango by blur. 

1332
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,300
She was asked Our Song from 
their 1995 album, The Great 

1333
01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:39,700
Escape. 
But but he said, where do you 

1334
01:18:39,700 --> 01:18:43,800
think the name q' actually came 
from for the record? 

1335
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,200
I honestly believe it was just 
Milligan deciding that the 

1336
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:51,900
letter Q was funny and both of 
these suggested explanations 

1337
01:18:51,900 --> 01:18:56,800
sound like nonsense to me, okay?
And the to I think what he means

1338
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:03,200
by the to suggested explanations
there's a theory that around the

1339
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:09,700
time that he was devising. 
Q5 QE2 was under construction or

1340
01:19:09,700 --> 01:19:12,600
something like that and it was 
right old name was Q4 or 

1341
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,500
something like that. 
Oh I see there's a suggestion 

1342
01:19:15,500 --> 01:19:20,600
that could have inspired him but
and I'm not buying that I was, I

1343
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,800
was always under the impression 
and again, this is only just 

1344
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,100
something that I heard ya. 
I don't know how many other 

1345
01:19:25,100 --> 01:19:28,300
people have heard this, but I 
was under the impression that 

1346
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,700
another reason for it was 
because he didn't there was a 

1347
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:37,500
there was a PR firm that wanted 
to be involved in the shaping 

1348
01:19:37,500 --> 01:19:42,600
and developing of his work in 
some shape or form and he wanted

1349
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,000
to be outside of that. 
So it might be just a simple as 

1350
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,000
being. 
Oh, right? 

1351
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,300
QPR. 
Okay. 

1352
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,000
Again, that was, that was 
something I heard whether 

1353
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,800
there's any truth in it or not, 
but it's simple enough to go. 

1354
01:19:53,900 --> 01:19:56,700
Okay, Well, I've Lions. 
No reason to doubt it, but I see

1355
01:19:56,700 --> 01:19:59,700
the Kiwi to thing as well. 
Well, the Kiwi for thing is ever

1356
01:19:59,700 --> 01:20:02,900
there was a, there's a, there's 
also a suggestion that I was to 

1357
01:20:02,900 --> 01:20:06,200
do with them. 
There was like a code system, 

1358
01:20:06,300 --> 01:20:10,700
internal BBC, technical jargon 
for memorandums, for Footwear. 

1359
01:20:10,700 --> 01:20:17,100
Now, for the physical quality of
programs in terms of how badly 

1360
01:20:17,100 --> 01:20:19,400
they recorded or something like 
that. 

1361
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:25,800
So, Q5 was code for a program 
that was Really the other the 

1362
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,300
image of the sound of really 
poor and shoddy something like 

1363
01:20:28,300 --> 01:20:31,400
that. 
So that the reason that could, 

1364
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,800
that could be some Credence 
there. 

1365
01:20:33,900 --> 01:20:35,300
I don't know. 
They're all plausible. 

1366
01:20:35,300 --> 01:20:37,500
Plausible, I don't think the 
Kiwi to is. 

1367
01:20:37,500 --> 01:20:41,100
But anyway, Mark Everton, hello,
Mark. 

1368
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:46,200
He says, if you could jump into 
your licorice and Center pod 

1369
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:50,600
powered time machine which one 
goon show, sorry, I'll say that 

1370
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,200
again. 
Which one goon would you like to

1371
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:54,500
interview for? 
A goon part. 

1372
01:20:55,000 --> 01:21:00,400
Oh, good lord. 
Okay, so I mentioned how he had,

1373
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,900
certainly go for a pint with 
Harry, but for the purposes of 

1374
01:21:03,900 --> 01:21:08,000
goon pod, who would I have? 
I think I'd roll out Harry and I

1375
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,500
drool out benteen Michael 
Banting. 

1376
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,300
I think if I had the opportunity
I think it'd have to be Peter. 

1377
01:21:16,300 --> 01:21:18,700
I think, right? 
I don't know why. 

1378
01:21:18,700 --> 01:21:22,000
I just I that is interesting 
because you I would have thought

1379
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,600
you'd gone the spike room, 
firstly. 

1380
01:21:23,900 --> 01:21:25,500
I think, I don't know, I don't 
know. 

1381
01:21:25,500 --> 01:21:29,500
I just, I'd like to draw Peter 
out of himself if I possibly 

1382
01:21:29,500 --> 01:21:33,100
could through my through my 
charm and guile, you know what I

1383
01:21:33,108 --> 01:21:35,500
mean? 
Through the medium of marriage, 

1384
01:21:37,100 --> 01:21:39,900
tempt him with a string. 
I know we've, we've only met for

1385
01:21:39,900 --> 01:21:41,500
a moment, but would you marry 
me? 

1386
01:21:41,500 --> 01:21:43,900
How many varied everybody else? 
It seems to be fair. 

1387
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,600
Yeah, I don't know, but I'd ask 
him. 

1388
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,900
I know I wouldn't be asking him.
The usual questions. 

1389
01:21:48,900 --> 01:21:53,100
I'm asking about the Fred shows 
and and the records he made in 

1390
01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:56,200
the 50s. 
And I had I'd ask him things 

1391
01:21:56,200 --> 01:22:01,100
like what his greatest 
professional regret was you 

1392
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:02,800
know, what role does he wish 
he'd taken? 

1393
01:22:04,300 --> 01:22:06,000
I imagine it. 
Probably say the producers, 

1394
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:07,600
wouldn't he? 
I imagine. 

1395
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:11,700
But what else would ask if I 
thought about that. 

1396
01:22:11,700 --> 01:22:17,100
And I've watched The Producers 
again recently and I just don't,

1397
01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:21,600
I'm really pleased that he took 
part of it because it just it 

1398
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,500
works so well, we're zero and 
Gina A, are they? 

1399
01:22:26,900 --> 01:22:29,400
You know what, I'll ask him 
again, this might close down the

1400
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,800
conversation because he, you 
might find this a bit creepy, 

1401
01:22:32,100 --> 01:22:35,200
but he was he was good friends. 
You may or may not know with 

1402
01:22:35,300 --> 01:22:40,000
Roman Polanski and all that I 
have, I seen I've seen a couple 

1403
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,500
of photographs of him and and 
Sharon Tate together, I think 

1404
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:48,300
that's a seller's went to the 
wedding of Sharon Tate, and he 

1405
01:22:48,300 --> 01:22:52,300
also went to the funeral of 
Sharon Tate, and I asked him 

1406
01:22:52,300 --> 01:22:57,900
about that whole thing really 
Now, you know his friendship 

1407
01:22:57,900 --> 01:23:02,700
with the polanski's and again he
might append the table and say 

1408
01:23:02,700 --> 01:23:06,900
this interview is over and storm
out and I'd wear a purple 

1409
01:23:06,900 --> 01:23:10,100
tracksuit to interview as well 
just to just to click just to 

1410
01:23:10,100 --> 01:23:17,500
unnerve him just to under arms. 
So question from Hugh, Thomas 

1411
01:23:17,500 --> 01:23:20,400
hello Hugh. 
What's he see here? 

1412
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,800
One thing I'm curious about, is 
this even after Lennon died, 

1413
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,100
some Beatles fans were still 
harping on about. 

1414
01:23:26,300 --> 01:23:29,400
Horses and star reuniting with 
Julian. 

1415
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,600
I'm wondering if goon fans in 
the 80s and 90s 90s were Keen to

1416
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,200
see the remaining goons reunite 
as the old characters for 

1417
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:39,200
something new. 
Perhaps everyone was everyone 

1418
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:43,500
was stated by the wealth of old 
programs but if something had 

1419
01:23:43,500 --> 01:23:47,100
happened with Milligan seek Him 
and perhaps others, is there any

1420
01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:49,900
Arrangement or project you feel 
would have been worth doing 

1421
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,200
well? 
We're going to Dirk maggs was 

1422
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:59,000
trying to persuade. 
Wade, Spike Harry and Mike to 

1423
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:03,000
restage some old goon show 
scripts that you know the shows 

1424
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,200
of which don't exist anymore, 
right? 

1425
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,600
In in line with the done, if 
remember flywheel shyster and 

1426
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,700
flywheel on the radius of Area 
dirt was behind. 

1427
01:24:11,700 --> 01:24:13,000
That was obviously Marx 
Brothers. 

1428
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:18,000
So it was that kind of conceit 
and never happened because 

1429
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,900
because my Spike wasn't that 
Keen and Michael benteen had a 

1430
01:24:24,900 --> 01:24:28,400
word with Peter Sellers. 
Through the medium of medium and

1431
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,400
Peter defies them not to do it 
again. 

1432
01:24:31,300 --> 01:24:33,700
Don't do it bent a deer. 
I can't know. 

1433
01:24:33,700 --> 01:24:38,400
I think I think by By the 80s B 
certainly by the 90s. 

1434
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,000
I think the age that they were 
particularly Spike, he kind of 

1435
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:48,700
lost a lot of his His energy by 
then and I don't guy can't see 

1436
01:24:48,700 --> 01:24:52,200
anything really know. 
I don't think of Peter had lived

1437
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:56,700
then that might have been 
different if anything I'd like 

1438
01:24:56,700 --> 01:25:02,400
to have thought that maybe the 
Parkinson chats and stuff like 

1439
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:06,400
that a lovely, you know, they're
great to watch particularly when

1440
01:25:07,100 --> 01:25:11,300
Harry and Peter are then they 
were reminiscing and obviously 

1441
01:25:12,100 --> 01:25:15,000
spikes. 
The other part of the world 

1442
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,900
trying to stay away but it would
have been nice to maybe have 

1443
01:25:17,900 --> 01:25:23,100
some form of Q&A after a 
screening of something and then 

1444
01:25:23,100 --> 01:25:26,700
for the for them to have taken a
stage and and you knew full well

1445
01:25:26,700 --> 01:25:30,600
that it would have been 
something a bit of banter going 

1446
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,600
on and before too long something
would have happened, you know, 

1447
01:25:34,900 --> 01:25:37,000
yes, yes, yeah, no, you're 
right. 

1448
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,400
I would've liked to have seen 
something like that. 

1449
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,200
Som something not necessarily 
scripted. 

1450
01:25:41,900 --> 01:25:43,800
Yeah, absolutely. 
Yeah that would have that would 

1451
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,100
have been nice when they're all 
on form as well. 

1452
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:48,900
Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah. 

1453
01:25:49,500 --> 01:25:51,900
Okay. 
Last question I think for now 

1454
01:25:53,900 --> 01:25:58,600
Roger Stevenson on a Roger Roger
it was number of questions here 

1455
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,000
very quickly. 
He says which lost goon show. 

1456
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,100
Would you most like to see 
found? 

1457
01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:11,500
I would say top my head. 
Archie and goon land which was 

1458
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:16,500
the crossover episode with the 
goons and educating Archie. 

1459
01:26:17,300 --> 01:26:20,300
Oh, ventriloquism on the radio, 
beautiful. 

1460
01:26:20,300 --> 01:26:26,000
There's a reason for that. 
When I moved to television, good

1461
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,800
Heavens. 
I am, I'm have thought about 

1462
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,200
this before. 
I'd like to have heard the 

1463
01:26:31,700 --> 01:26:37,000
there's an episode from series 
for early, on series, for that, 

1464
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,100
doesn't exist anymore called The
Flying Saucer. 

1465
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,800
Re written on his own. 
I think by Larry Larry Stevens 

1466
01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:47,000
and it caused a bit of a 
fracker, it was a bit of a sort 

1467
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,400
of, you know, the War of the 
Worlds. 

1468
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,800
Awesome. 
Wells, story, a similar sort of 

1469
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:52,400
exercise where people thought it
was rail. 

1470
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:53,300
Yeah. 
Something like that. 

1471
01:26:53,300 --> 01:26:58,100
Yeah, flying saucers were seen 
in woking or wherever it was. 

1472
01:26:59,100 --> 01:27:01,200
No, that's where the wasn't it. 
But. 

1473
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,600
No. 
Anyway, people credulous people 

1474
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,900
thought that what was on the 
screen show was actually 

1475
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:07,900
happening, something like that. 
I'd like to. 

1476
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,900
I like to hear that show. 
Hmm, Roger goes on says, who was

1477
01:27:11,900 --> 01:27:13,400
the better producer of the Goon 
show? 

1478
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,700
Peter eaten. 
Will John brow tincture. 

1479
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,600
John Burroughs very good but 
Peter reason was much more 

1480
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,900
instilled, much more discipline 
into them. 

1481
01:27:22,900 --> 01:27:27,200
So I say p to Eaton was Milligan
better writing scripts on his 

1482
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,800
own or with a partner with a 
partner. 

1483
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:35,100
I would say generally Because 
again he would he would be 

1484
01:27:35,100 --> 01:27:38,800
slightly more anchored by having
somebody working with him. 

1485
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:42,200
You know he couldn't necessarily
drift off. 

1486
01:27:42,700 --> 01:27:48,000
Yeah can be the work he did with
Eric Sykes was was a kind of 

1487
01:27:49,100 --> 01:27:53,100
good staple point where you can 
again you pitch something for 

1488
01:27:53,100 --> 01:27:55,700
somebody else to go. 
You know I'm not quite sure 

1489
01:27:55,700 --> 01:27:59,700
about if you move that to here 
and change that to their that 

1490
01:27:59,700 --> 01:28:01,800
then worked. 
Oh I see you need a separate 

1491
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:03,000
pair of eyes. 
Don't you? 

1492
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,200
And he is sometimes when you're 
delivering it. 

1493
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,900
So I think maybe that's that was
another reason why a lot of the 

1494
01:28:08,900 --> 01:28:11,700
stuff we landed if it was 
written in conjunction. 

1495
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:16,800
Yeah, absolutely. 
Roger concludes with a question.

1496
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:22,200
What did you do last night? 
You Beast answers on a postcard?

1497
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,600
Yes, I'm not answer is where I 
was elsewhere offers. 

1498
01:28:26,700 --> 01:28:29,400
So, there we go. 
So yeah, John and thank you for 

1499
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,500
for joining me in that. 
I just thought it would be a 

1500
01:28:31,508 --> 01:28:34,000
nice little a driver. 
And because I knew that we would

1501
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,200
have some time in hand. 
Yeah. 

1502
01:28:36,300 --> 01:28:39,200
And always happy to have a 
diversion and some time at hand.

1503
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:43,200
Yes, it's always very useful. 
I guess my last question for you

1504
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:46,000
would be. 
Do you think that it was Cinemas

1505
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,100
lost when Harry decided never to
make another feature film? 

1506
01:28:49,100 --> 01:28:54,100
Or could, you know, I think 
Cinemas lost was religions, 

1507
01:28:54,100 --> 01:28:57,300
gain. 
Very possibly, I think in that 

1508
01:28:57,300 --> 01:29:00,000
respect also on a slightly 
different note, but along the 

1509
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,400
same lines. 
I'm very very keen. 

1510
01:29:02,500 --> 01:29:06,100
In now to play the opening 
titles of this film in without 

1511
01:29:06,100 --> 01:29:08,600
sound off and replace it with 
Thunderstruck. 

1512
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:12,000
By AC/DC I just want to see if 
it works. 

1513
01:29:12,100 --> 01:29:14,500
Think it might on a on a big 
scale. 

1514
01:29:14,500 --> 01:29:17,500
I think it might do it, you 
know, sunstroke Thunderstruck. 

1515
01:29:17,500 --> 01:29:19,900
There's a lot going on there and
I think that could work. 

1516
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:21,800
I'd really like to see that has 
one. 

1517
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,800
They are indeed. 
Yeah I think they could have 

1518
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:30,300
done but yes, I think Harry 
doing what he does and he does 

1519
01:29:30,300 --> 01:29:33,400
it to the very best of his 
ability and he gives he and, you

1520
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,000
know, as you said yourself, he 
didn't take a big fee and he 

1521
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:41,200
just took it in this tribe and 
he had lots of other stuff to do

1522
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:46,300
and maybe there just wasn't the 
right project that came along 

1523
01:29:46,300 --> 01:29:49,900
and so he just carried on doing 
his thing and fair play to him. 

1524
01:29:50,300 --> 01:29:55,900
Okay, well, John and quick plug.
If you go to YouTube and type in

1525
01:29:55,900 --> 01:29:58,500
behind the stunts, you will find
Me there. 

1526
01:29:59,300 --> 01:30:02,100
It's every Friday. 
There's a show. 

1527
01:30:02,300 --> 01:30:03,300
I'm going to be taking a little 
break. 

1528
01:30:03,300 --> 01:30:06,900
I've got to go off and do some 
traveling, but there will be 

1529
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,200
Friday, show on there and on 
Wednesday wherever you get your 

1530
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,200
podcasts or however you wish to 
listen to them. 

1531
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:17,700
If you type behind the stunts, 
there you will find a Wednesday 

1532
01:30:17,700 --> 01:30:21,200
podcast. 
And we pick a subject or a 

1533
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:25,000
movie, or a topic that has 
cropped up. 

1534
01:30:25,300 --> 01:30:27,600
We look at it and then we 
already analyzed it a bit. 

1535
01:30:27,700 --> 01:30:30,800
It more in depth on a Friday. 
And that's, that's how that 

1536
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,200
works. 
So that's where you'll find me 

1537
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:36,500
all the social medias and 
Tick-Tock I've gone Tip Top as 

1538
01:30:36,500 --> 01:30:37,800
well. 
So if you're if you're 

1539
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,900
Tick-Tock, herbal aren't. 
I'm sure that's a word, the get 

1540
01:30:41,900 --> 01:30:45,000
behind me. 
Satan Tick-Tock, you've got 

1541
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:49,200
branched out to that particular 
genre of social media, then 

1542
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:55,500
know, maybe maybe one day if I 
need to show a bit of leg to get

1543
01:30:55,500 --> 01:30:59,100
some more, you know? 
Norbit have to go that far but 

1544
01:30:59,100 --> 01:31:01,600
sometimes it helps particular 
with my legs. 

1545
01:31:01,700 --> 01:31:04,100
You know, last time I saw legs 
like those, they had a message 

1546
01:31:04,100 --> 01:31:05,400
tied to them. 
I think somebody should have 

1547
01:31:06,700 --> 01:31:10,400
probably right? 
Oh John this has been brilliant.

1548
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:11,900
Thanks, and I'm sure that we 
will. 

1549
01:31:12,100 --> 01:31:14,600
We will speak again. 
Super look forward to it. 

1550
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:15,800
Thank you Tyler, a pleasure 
always. 

1551
01:31:15,900 --> 01:31:16,300
Cheers me.