1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,200 I'll be the voice of Sanity. Don't even use to me. 2 00:00:08,300 --> 00:00:10,100 I'm doing is for children in. They don't worry. 3 00:00:10,100 --> 00:00:12,500 I'm not one of these people going to cause be really 4 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:14,500 shouldn't be. I'm from children. 5 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:16,700 Doing it for children need. I've been sponsored by my 6 00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:20,000 friends, I don't catch it. It's sponsored by my friends. 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,700 I said if I can on the show, they'll give a huge amount of 8 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:25,500 money for children in need less you and I've got to stay on here 9 00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:27,200 till the end of the show you must do that. 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,900 Oh, thank you very much. Thanks so much. 11 00:00:30,100 --> 00:00:37,400 Thanks for your kindness. It's a dreadful machine. 12 00:00:39,500 --> 00:00:41,700 He's here, he's gonna stay. Yeah, she's gonna stay with us 13 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:46,200 again to give their money. Yeah, city after the show, I'll 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:01:32,600 beat the shit out of you. Hello and welcome to goon pod 15 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,800 this week. It's the jet propelled guided 16 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,300 neffe, but before I introduce my guest, just a quick bit of 17 00:01:38,308 --> 00:01:41,900 housekeeping it used to be a running gag but I am 18 00:01:41,900 --> 00:01:45,300 occasionally contacted by people still to this day. 19 00:01:45,300 --> 00:01:49,800 Requesting that I dedicate an entire episode to covering the 20 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,900 Melting Pot o, including someone just last week. 21 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,800 Now the thing is podcasting is an audio medium. 22 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:03,500 And I don't really know how entertaining it would be or how 23 00:02:03,500 --> 00:02:07,700 much information I would be able to adequately convey with my 24 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:10,800 head in my hands, slammed over the desk quietly weeping. 25 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:13,900 My guest, this week is James page and it's a slightly shorter 26 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:17,700 episode than normal owing to some technical issues and you 27 00:02:17,700 --> 00:02:21,800 Mike that didn't properly work. Some of the recording was 28 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,300 impaired at the good news is I've got a new another brand-new 29 00:02:25,300 --> 00:02:30,100 Mike, and I'm hoping that this is going to do a better job it 30 00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:35,300 To do it, bloody better do. Anyway thankfully what was last 31 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:39,300 was mostly me whittling on about Sarabia Fredrika. 32 00:02:39,300 --> 00:02:42,600 Schaefer the famous herbalist and cunning woman from Finland 33 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,500 so no great loss. Okay anyway we join the 34 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:49,100 conversation of me. Typically interrogating my 35 00:02:49,100 --> 00:02:52,200 guests about how old they are. Hope you enjoy it. 36 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:56,500 So James. So just before we started 37 00:02:56,500 --> 00:02:59,800 recording you indicate, you said I'm very old now. 38 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,000 You sound like a spring chicken but oh well you don't have to 39 00:03:03,008 --> 00:03:04,600 give me the exact. But what sort of region are we 40 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,200 talking? Hey, in the region of 46 years 41 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,700 old and about 8 months roughly, shut up, get out, I'm older than 42 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:14,700 you. Oh not really by two years. 43 00:03:15,100 --> 00:03:19,800 Oh that's nothing. That's no wages or you posted a 44 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,300 very nice tweet about the show. Several months ago and Off the 45 00:03:23,300 --> 00:03:27,200 back of that, I contacted you. And and you said, you know, 46 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,900 you'd be happy to come on the show and talk about, you know, 47 00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:33,000 one of your favorite gun shows. So, but before we crack on with 48 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,500 that, what's your, you know, I always ask this question, what's 49 00:03:36,500 --> 00:03:37,400 your history with the Goon? Sure. 50 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,100 How did you come to it? Well, I think he's probably like 51 00:03:40,100 --> 00:03:42,300 most people. It was through my dad. 52 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,600 He was a huge fan of of the goons of radio. 53 00:03:45,700 --> 00:03:47,600 Really. He was he worked for a local 54 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,900 station and he had a long kind of History because I love of 55 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:57,200 Radio itself and all the comedies he was into it in that 56 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,500 way. My actual, my first experience I 57 00:04:00,508 --> 00:04:03,400 think of the Goon show was actually I haven't I didn't hear 58 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,100 it until I was in my mid-twenties. 59 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,100 So it was probably my first experience was when I was a 60 00:04:08,108 --> 00:04:12,700 child and he had the, the gun show script books on the 61 00:04:12,700 --> 00:04:13,700 shelves. Yep. 62 00:04:13,700 --> 00:04:18,000 And I found that fascinating because I was at the age of six 63 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,700 or seven where I love reading, but I was kind of moving from. 64 00:04:23,100 --> 00:04:25,400 The younger children's books to the older children's books and 65 00:04:25,900 --> 00:04:28,100 all of a sudden the books that I was getting from from the 66 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:31,300 library and at school didn't have pictures in anymore and I 67 00:04:31,300 --> 00:04:33,900 was like I got a second this is this is a bit rubbish book 68 00:04:33,900 --> 00:04:35,900 cement her pictures, have a mixer know what people look like 69 00:04:35,900 --> 00:04:37,700 that kind of thing and imagine what's happening. 70 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,600 All of a sudden books are just were some being ripped off it 71 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,000 and I was a bit miffed about that and then all of a sudden 72 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,400 the found this goon show script book and it was just full of 73 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,400 Doodles. He's brilliant little pictures 74 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:52,300 that all the cars to drawn and they've been adding to the book 75 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:55,500 and And certainly if I actually have as grown-ups can have 76 00:04:55,500 --> 00:04:57,100 pictures in the books as well. This is fantastic. 77 00:04:57,100 --> 00:04:59,100 I loved it. I didn't really get into the 78 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:02,800 story lines that much what I love most of all was the little 79 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,200 introduction B. So the kind of before the show 80 00:05:05,300 --> 00:05:07,500 got started properly, all the messing around at the beginning. 81 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:11,100 All the twitching greenslade and making silly noises and dropping 82 00:05:11,100 --> 00:05:12,600 in sound effects and that kind of thing. 83 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,200 Those are the bits. I love the most, I think, 84 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:19,100 because at the time I watched a lot of children's TV as well and 85 00:05:19,300 --> 00:05:22,000 a lot of that was starting to get kind of pulling back her and 86 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,300 as well. You're breaking the fourth wall 87 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:27,100 and, you know, looking at your How It Was Made adding bits 88 00:05:27,100 --> 00:05:29,300 before the credits, after the credits, that kind of thing a 89 00:05:29,308 --> 00:05:32,200 messing around with the format. So I love that kind of, you 90 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,200 know, not just doing a straight radio show but, you know, 91 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,200 messing around with the announcer and doing things 92 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,300 before. The story started, I thought 93 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:41,300 that was fascinating. I loved it. 94 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:46,200 Your that became more and more pronounced as the show went on. 95 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,600 As we get to into the ninth Series in the tenth series. 96 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,300 There's certain shows where the First Act if you like, it's just 97 00:05:52,300 --> 00:05:56,300 them. Messing about and yeah Bears no 98 00:05:56,300 --> 00:05:58,600 relation to the actual story, proper deaf. 99 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,500 And I think the last guy we should have all his pretty much 100 00:06:00,500 --> 00:06:02,000 all that isn't. I don't think it's actually a 101 00:06:02,008 --> 00:06:03,100 storyline. It's all to the man. 102 00:06:03,100 --> 00:06:05,900 I don't know that that that's got to feel something that was 103 00:06:05,900 --> 00:06:09,900 dashed off in a, in a rush. Yeah, I think because some, when 104 00:06:09,900 --> 00:06:12,800 I started reading these scrapbooks, I think the goons 105 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,400 well the various members were definitely part of my childhood 106 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,200 as well separately as well. Yeah. 107 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,400 Because Spike Milligan he could pop up a lot. 108 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,400 Like I said, my dad was a huge fan and he had the Books, the 109 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,100 war Memoirs, that kind of thing. And yes, but admitted himself 110 00:06:27,100 --> 00:06:29,200 just popped up a lot in my childhood as well. 111 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,500 There was. Do you know the cartoon the 112 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:33,300 rattie's? I certainly do. 113 00:06:33,700 --> 00:06:36,800 Oh, I love that show. It was incredible. 114 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,400 It was nice to watch that as a kid. 115 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,800 It was like, no other cartoon on children's TV at the time for 116 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,700 this, fantastic and Spike was just the most incredible 117 00:06:44,700 --> 00:06:48,200 narrator of that. So it was written by his Laura, 118 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,500 wasn't it a story? That's right. 119 00:06:49,500 --> 00:06:51,300 Yeah. And I love that. 120 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:55,700 It was she wrote it but Was pretty much just any hope of a 121 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:57,600 plotter. Anything was just there was a 122 00:06:57,608 --> 00:07:01,300 kind of a playground for Spike to run around and jump off and 123 00:07:01,300 --> 00:07:04,100 spin around and do that soaks a million miles an hour. 124 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:10,300 I was, I think I was slightly too old for it or at least, you 125 00:07:10,300 --> 00:07:13,700 know, I think it was a moved on to slightly older, children's 126 00:07:13,700 --> 00:07:16,600 television by that point. However, it was around that 127 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,400 point that I was getting into the Goon. 128 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,000 So I certainly did make a point of watching it and yeah, and I 129 00:07:22,008 --> 00:07:23,300 used to have a tape for All of it. 130 00:07:23,300 --> 00:07:26,300 Like a VHS tape, full of episodes of the Rat. 131 00:07:26,300 --> 00:07:29,500 He's someone Catholic. There are still episodes on 132 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:31,700 YouTube. I'm delighted to say, is it's 133 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:34,900 fun to watch. Now it's it reminds me of, you 134 00:07:34,900 --> 00:07:37,800 know, the, the very early like the first Popeye cartoons, the 135 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,300 black and white ones. Yeah. 136 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,400 The ones where there's no kind of again. 137 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,700 There's no script to such. It's just kind of long noise, 138 00:07:44,700 --> 00:07:46,600 it's got to be access playing Popeye and olive-oil. 139 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,400 They just kind of wittering away the whole time. 140 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,700 I think it reminds me of that cause it's just he's so it's 141 00:07:50,700 --> 00:07:52,900 like sticking a micrometer. Spike Milligan is head the hole. 142 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,300 All an episode of the Rat is listening to these jokes going 143 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:56,200 off. It's like a match. 144 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,600 Being dropped a box of fireworks. 145 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:03,100 And it just is, it's 15-minute Milligan noise and that ends the 146 00:08:03,100 --> 00:08:06,000 fantini brothers wallpaper on Comedy whose last decorated 147 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,400 during the war. Watch out Reggie's, Uncle Matt 148 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:15,100 is on the warpath, they're all wrapped up in themselves. 149 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,200 That's why I never go to be sort of encounter groups may be that 150 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,900 he tears up his bank statement and returned to his magic 151 00:08:21,900 --> 00:08:24,700 career. With the aid of a fan and five 152 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:27,100 revolving, Gratis, he will create a cyclone. 153 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,900 For his next trick, he will try and stop the Cyclone by 154 00:08:40,900 --> 00:08:42,799 Consulting the book. He wrote three minutes ago, 155 00:08:42,900 --> 00:08:46,600 using a magic wand and the magic word which he has forgotten and 156 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,700 it's working forgotten, must have been the magic word. 157 00:08:50,700 --> 00:08:56,100 Did you ever see when Spike appeared on Logan with Harry? 158 00:08:57,900 --> 00:09:00,900 Yeah. Yes yes it was the most amazing 159 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,200 interview with them. Joanna Lumley as well as 160 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,800 tonight. I haven't, I haven't watched 161 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,000 that for a while, though. I really, I think that's 162 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,700 probably my first memory of of Spike Milligan thinking about it 163 00:09:10,700 --> 00:09:14,000 because it stands out so much that thing that happened halfway 164 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,200 through. Yeah, remind me. 165 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,600 What happens if somebody from the audience, that's it? 166 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,800 Yeah, it was Spike comes on, it's necessary and they're 167 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,000 chatting. I don't know why they were on 168 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,500 whether it was promoting something or just on as a guest 169 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:29,100 or something. But yeah, they're chatting away 170 00:09:29,100 --> 00:09:31,700 about their time together and then somebody comes out of the 171 00:09:31,700 --> 00:09:34,800 audience in a kind of homemade t-shirt and Joanna Lumley play. 172 00:09:35,100 --> 00:09:38,800 Perfectly cool. Then, as she obviously does and 173 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,000 this man, she looks a little bit concerned that somebody 174 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,900 wandering towards the stage and it's man's is a holler. 175 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,800 It's okay. My friends say they will give 176 00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:51,300 these children in need, lots of money, but I've got to sit here 177 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:54,900 on the sofa with you for the rest of the show and Joanna 178 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:57,100 perfectly. Cool says, I'm afraid you can't 179 00:09:57,100 --> 00:09:59,800 do that. But you know, we'll try and talk 180 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,900 something else and Spike is kind of you can tell spikes really 181 00:10:02,900 --> 00:10:06,600 upset by this because he says, Oh no, it's the Machinery. 182 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,000 She's really gutted that this bit of chaos has happened. 183 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,700 And it's been squashed straight away. 184 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,800 Is this man's being led away and spikes it? 185 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,900 We should let him stay. Shouldn't be in the auditor. 186 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,200 And mother, Joanna says, I'm afraid you can't stay, but we'll 187 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,700 sort something out later. And just as he's being led away, 188 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,300 Spike, says, come and come and see us after the show. 189 00:10:26,900 --> 00:10:29,600 And then under his breath, says, with beat the shit out of here. 190 00:10:29,700 --> 00:10:33,400 Let's just get the bigger. I'm sorry. 191 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,200 I'm sorry. Obviously Spike, just got of 192 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,100 loving this bit of chaos happening and then being so kind 193 00:10:39,100 --> 00:10:42,200 of oh it's just it's been squashed by the machine, it's 194 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,100 the BBC at suppressing fun again. 195 00:10:45,100 --> 00:10:46,000 Yep. That's it. 196 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,900 My first memory of the obviously something going a bit weird on 197 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:51,300 TV and then a naughty word on tea time. 198 00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:54,600 Television of. Yeah, yeah, I'll have to retell 199 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,000 after we watch that actually. You know, it's alright, it's 200 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,200 great fun. So you indicated that, I mean I 201 00:11:01,208 --> 00:11:03,700 think you told me that the jet propelled guided nephew is not 202 00:11:03,700 --> 00:11:06,000 necessarily your At gun show. Hmm. 203 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,400 But why? The do you want to talk about 204 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,700 this particular one? I think many many reasons. 205 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:13,200 I think it's definitely one of my favorites. 206 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,100 It's one of the first ones I heard, I think somebody when I 207 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:19,100 was in my twenties like I say I hadn't heard a Gun Show and Tell 208 00:11:19,100 --> 00:11:20,500 I was fighting the mid-20s somebody. 209 00:11:20,500 --> 00:11:23,800 Let me the tapes, you know, the Goon show Classics tapes. 210 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,100 Yeah. For four episodes on each one. 211 00:11:26,100 --> 00:11:29,200 And somebody, let me leave us any my like these. 212 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:31,300 It's amazing. It's on with eat the evils of 213 00:11:31,308 --> 00:11:34,000 bushy spot-on. Yes, history of Pliny, the Elder 214 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,600 and Really batted pulling her lasso, some of the most amazing 215 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,600 episodes all along take. Yeah, because what happened was 216 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:44,100 because originally, it was released as an LP in September 217 00:11:44,100 --> 00:11:48,400 75 and it was part of the BBC's of BBC started releasing our 218 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:49,400 piece. Yeah. 219 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:52,100 Following the success of the last goon show of also it's 220 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:56,300 released as goon show classics. Number two with with as you say, 221 00:11:56,300 --> 00:12:01,000 the evils of pushy spying on the other side and when they came to 222 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,700 release them in the when was it was it would it be late 80s in 223 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,400 To the 90s, they started releasing the double tapes. 224 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:12,900 Yes, which is essentially just repackaging, the Goon show 225 00:12:12,900 --> 00:12:17,300 Classics, please. It was, it was joined with Gucci 226 00:12:17,300 --> 00:12:19,400 classics number one which was dreaded better putting hurler 227 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,800 and Pliny, the Elder. It's always been a really 228 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,100 popular episode the jet propelled guarded neffe. 229 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,700 Apparently, one of Peter Sellers favorite episodes of into. 230 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:34,700 Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, and when he died in July 231 00:12:34,900 --> 00:12:38,800 1980. There was a tribute show. 232 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:42,100 It was repeated, couple of days after his death in the early 233 00:12:42,100 --> 00:12:44,800 minutes of last Thursday, morning, the entertainment. 234 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,800 Profession was a truly great International comedy actor, and 235 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,200 I lost a very dear and close mate. 236 00:12:52,100 --> 00:12:55,500 We are fortunate, however, in that many of Peters performances 237 00:12:55,500 --> 00:12:59,600 on film on in radio are preserved for posterity so we 238 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,400 can still enjoy his matchless laughter making genius. 239 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,200 Peter always maintained of the happiest days of his life. 240 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,100 Although Sunday's spent recording the Goon show, I must 241 00:13:11,100 --> 00:13:12,900 say that they were my happiest days to. 242 00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:17,100 And so what better way to pay tribute to Peter and to repeat 243 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:20,300 one of those gold show that he himself regarded as well as his 244 00:13:20,300 --> 00:13:24,500 own particular favorites. The jet-propelled guided naffy 245 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,800 he sounds like he's in a lot of fun in this in this episode it 246 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,800 sounds like he's kind of really getting into it and you know 247 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,300 being himself and yeah well I'm not being himself a being 248 00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:35,700 everybody basically. Ali and really getting stuck 249 00:13:35,700 --> 00:13:37,100 into it. Obvious, one of the, one of the 250 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:41,200 reasons that I really like is because it's at the first third, 251 00:13:41,900 --> 00:13:44,000 the first for activate it just sounds like they're just having 252 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,500 fun. They just really enjoying it 253 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:48,400 there and making each other laugh and you know it's like I 254 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,200 say one of the one of the things I loved about reading the Goon 255 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,700 show. Script was all the messing 256 00:13:52,700 --> 00:13:56,200 around at the beginning and this episode I think is the First Act 257 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,400 is basically the messing around at the beginning for a whole 10 258 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,600 minutes. It's wonderful. 259 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,800 The it starts off with them in, in parliament's having an Wiry. 260 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,400 And it's just them being making silly noises, but doing 261 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,000 different voices and you're being about five different 262 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,500 people, each and just causing a crowd between, you know, just 263 00:14:14,500 --> 00:14:16,400 the three of them, it sounds so much fun. 264 00:14:16,700 --> 00:14:18,600 I want to give a bit of background before we start 265 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,200 talking about the show. That's okay. 266 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:26,100 So it's it's from Series 6, it's episode 19 and it was broadcast 267 00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:30,600 on the 24th of January, 1956, written by Spike and producer 268 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,400 with Peter eaten. That was one of Peter Eaton's 269 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,800 last episodes to produce He went off to work for Granada. 270 00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:39,900 Okay. He did come back and do a couple 271 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:41,500 of shows. Produced a couple of shows at 272 00:14:41,500 --> 00:14:46,100 the beginning of Series 7 but it was a pet Dixon took over. 273 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:47,300 Okay. Oh yeah. 274 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,600 I just wanted to give a little bit of context as well because 275 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,500 So, this is, this is 26, May 24th, January 56, sort of at the 276 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:02,600 beginning of January. The BBC were starting to think 277 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,800 about commissioning the seventh series, another series of the 278 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,100 Goon show, because it was so so successful that we're getting 279 00:15:10,100 --> 00:15:13,700 about 3 million listeners tuning in, to the Home Service 280 00:15:13,700 --> 00:15:17,500 broadcast every week. But as I say the BBC, working to 281 00:15:17,508 --> 00:15:23,200 commission, a new series and Spike was up for it, but he had 282 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,100 reservations. Actions. 283 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:30,800 Okay, there's a memo in the archives written by the variety 284 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,800 booking manager, Patrick Newman. He writes, he writes to the 285 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,600 assistant head of variety, which is Jim Davidson, not that one, 286 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,500 I'm good. Yeah, and he says, Spike tells 287 00:15:43,500 --> 00:15:46,100 me that it is not that he himself is tiring, but he 288 00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:47,800 wonders. Whether the British public is 289 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,600 and thinks it might be advisable for the return of the show to be 290 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,700 made at a much later date. Oh, by which time he feels that 291 00:15:55,700 --> 00:15:57,200 listens will be crying out for it. 292 00:15:57,500 --> 00:15:59,800 Yeah, okay. So Spike obvious, I don't know 293 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:03,800 how, what period of time, he was thinking, maybe a year maybe 294 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,900 more between series, but the BBC were clamoring. 295 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,100 Really form or sooner if you like, yeah, one of the issues 296 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:17,000 they had potentially, was that Spike and Peter were asking for 297 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,500 more money? Yeah, kick off. 298 00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:23,500 But a major problem or potential problem was that Harry. 299 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:29,100 Deacon was booked to appear. Pretty much nightly at the 300 00:16:29,108 --> 00:16:33,200 London Palladium from May to December 56, okay? 301 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,200 And as a result you know, he was going to be their most, you 302 00:16:36,208 --> 00:16:39,100 know, five or six nights a week, right? 303 00:16:39,100 --> 00:16:41,300 Yeah. He was saying, do I really want 304 00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:43,700 to spend my Sunday's recording the Goon show? 305 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,800 It's only day off. I'm going to have. 306 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:50,300 So he was kind of I'm not saying he didn't want to do it, but he 307 00:16:50,300 --> 00:16:52,300 was sort of saying, well, perhaps we could shift the 308 00:16:52,308 --> 00:16:55,000 recording days. To, you know, sometime during 309 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,000 the week, and you can record it, you know, during the day on a 310 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,000 weekday, the BBC wasn't keen on that and Spike, certainly wasn't 311 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,000 keen on that. Okay, so in the end, they didn't 312 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,000 shift from recording on Sundays, so I guess Harry just had to 313 00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:13,599 take it on the chin. Yeah, now the week leading up to 314 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:16,099 the recording of the jet-propelled, guided Nephi, 315 00:17:16,700 --> 00:17:22,500 Peter Sellers agent wrote to Patrick Newman and and and we're 316 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:24,400 with with typical Even informed him. 317 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,400 That Peter Sellers does not wish to be associated with the gun 318 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:35,000 show ever again. Wow, which apparently stemmed 319 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,000 from some argument that sellers had with Milligan earlier in the 320 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,800 week, which often happened, I believe ya. 321 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:46,100 Yes, it's so this episode of the Goon show, it starts off with 322 00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:49,500 this, this some quite interesting historical 323 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,800 references that have been lost in The Mists of time. 324 00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:54,400 Yes. Yes. 325 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:59,500 So there's this quote that greenslade reads from I think 326 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:00,900 it's the telegraph, the telegraph. 327 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:04,500 Yes. Where he refers to what did he 328 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:07,700 say? In building a new residence for 329 00:18:07,700 --> 00:18:09,900 the High Commissioner in Colombo, the British government 330 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:13,400 was taken for a ride by the contractors, a witness at an 331 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,500 inquiry. So the semicircular City cost 332 00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:19,700 four hundred and twenty pounds. It's Slightly bizarre sounding 333 00:18:19,700 --> 00:18:22,000 but it sounds like there's a ring of Truth to that. 334 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,100 Yeah. Yes the way. 335 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,900 But I never thought anything much about it until recently, 336 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,700 just in, you know, during the course of Twitter, I interact 337 00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:35,200 with a lot of people and there's neck from the sea green Memoirs 338 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:41,200 website, and I think he contacted me, or we got into a 339 00:18:41,300 --> 00:18:46,100 Twitter discussion about whether this new story actually is based 340 00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:48,100 on, on fact. Hmm, yeah. 341 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,600 And I checked with friend of the show Andrew Pixley. 342 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:56,700 Basically Spike did pick up this story, from presumably the 343 00:18:56,700 --> 00:19:00,700 telegraph at the time and took it as the jumping off point for 344 00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:05,500 writing the show, I just want to read you the news story that the 345 00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:09,900 precise quote taxpayer taken for a ride in Colombo, okay? 346 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:15,500 Way the British government was taken for a ride by the salon 347 00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:19,700 contractors who built 500 pounds at Colombo official buildings 348 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:21,900 for the UK High. Commissioner, a witness told the 349 00:19:21,908 --> 00:19:26,900 Committee of Public Accounts Sir, Cecil saez has been UK High 350 00:19:26,900 --> 00:19:30,400 Commissioner in Salon since 1951 at the inquiry. 351 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,700 The deputy secretary of the ministry of Works was asked 352 00:19:33,700 --> 00:19:35,500 whether efforts were made to bring down the cost of the 353 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:40,200 revenue of the residents. But there's a point, I want to 354 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,200 get to mr. Muir answered the questions 355 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,600 about the specially designed 12,000-pound Furnishings for the 356 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,100 house, he said this house is a specially designed house. 357 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:52,700 In what is called a contemporary style of architecture? 358 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:56,100 I am told there is nothing else, like it in Colombo, mr. 359 00:19:56,100 --> 00:19:59,200 Muir said the furniture was chosen on the design by the then 360 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,300 minister of works. Okay? 361 00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:05,600 How now this is a joke as I say, it's been lost to the sands of 362 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,300 time, but the content Every audience listening to this goon 363 00:20:09,300 --> 00:20:11,700 show would would be probably familiar with the minister of 364 00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:15,200 works or at least some of them would be you know his name was 365 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,300 go on so David Eccles? No, yes. 366 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:22,500 Oh my gosh. No. 367 00:20:24,900 --> 00:20:28,100 It's like they began the Goon show 6 years before just to make 368 00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:32,700 up to this point. That's incredible, the longest 369 00:20:32,700 --> 00:20:36,600 Black Mirror episode ever. Well you thinking probably 370 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,500 spikes read this. At this news story. 371 00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:42,500 Yeah, he's I has alighted on the reference to David Eccles and he 372 00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:44,200 saw. Okay, let's write a show about 373 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,200 this. And if, and if it's true, then 374 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,400 he's written the show, very, very quickly. 375 00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:51,600 It's been a really quick turnaround. 376 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,200 Yeah, I'm using. And, and as you say the show 377 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,200 opens with this parliamentary investigation into why a 378 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,100 semicircular City in Colombo, cost four hundred and twenty 379 00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:05,700 pounds and their calls who's the minister of Works, who wouldn't 380 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:09,300 go amiss in As Government I was going to say he'd be buying 381 00:21:09,300 --> 00:21:11,900 people, you know, wouldn't me. He would be to inform. 382 00:21:11,900 --> 00:21:12,300 No. Hang on. 383 00:21:12,300 --> 00:21:14,800 Hang on. He wouldn't be like something 384 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,700 that looks like pee pee. But no. 385 00:21:16,700 --> 00:21:19,400 But he'd also I was going to say he'd fit into this government, 386 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,200 but he wouldn't actually cuz he resigns doesn't mean that 387 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,600 imagine and nobody in this government. 388 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,900 Resign, sorry to get political. But but I'm thinking the, you 389 00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:32,500 know, the Contemporary audience, hearing Echoes being, you know, 390 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:34,400 Echols referred to as the minister of works. 391 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,100 Yeah, they would appreciate that. 392 00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:39,500 Yeah. This is an inquiry into the cost 393 00:21:39,500 --> 00:21:41,300 of a government building in Colombo. 394 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,500 Is this, you know mr. Echols here. 395 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:50,800 Yeah, I told all the furniture myself, mr. 396 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,600 Eccles. Why did a 7 and 6 when he Window 397 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:59,700 Seat Cuts, 246 pounds. Always mine. 398 00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:04,800 Speak to my secretary, you can't talk now government minute, I 399 00:22:04,808 --> 00:22:10,600 like that, I won't be out of work long, you stream at 400 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,800 Ministry of Fisheries job, You watch. 401 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,100 I've kept go for mr. Echo Echoes. 402 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:19,700 We are not for one moment, doubting your sincerity. 403 00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:22,300 It's just your intelligence that in question. 404 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:29,400 Well, I accept your apology. Are you interrupt me when I 405 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:41,000 wasn't saying anything? I love about the this pole seen 406 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,400 as well, is because when I listened to it on tape years 407 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,000 ago, I think you've mentioned in the past a lot of jokes, get cut 408 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,900 for the brought for the types of episodes for the episodes that 409 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:53,600 get released later. But like I don't like this kind 410 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,100 of thing. This kind of topical stuff, they 411 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:57,400 cut out, topical jokes, and there's a joke that I didn't 412 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,500 hear when I had it on tape that I've only heard since when I 413 00:23:02,508 --> 00:23:05,800 heard it on the think was the BBC they replayed the episode 414 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,300 recently. And they're all firing up all 415 00:23:08,308 --> 00:23:10,500 these questions at each other. And what about the dreams in? 416 00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:12,300 Hackney what, what about dreams of these features? 417 00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:15,800 Fully delivered acting in the dreams bond, which is the best 418 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,500 use of the word pong ever. It is. 419 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:21,200 And all these questions being shouted and all of a sudden, 420 00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:25,200 Peter Sellers. I'm, I don't know whether it's a 421 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,600 Winston, Churchill impression, it sounds a bit like him, but he 422 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,100 suddenly says, Roger about all this washer go outside. 423 00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:32,900 Number 10, I'd love to know what that was all about. 424 00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:35,600 If there's a, he gets a massive laughs, obviously there's 425 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,300 something going on at the time to do with Washing outside 426 00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:40,000 number 10. Yeah. 427 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:40,400 Today. What? 428 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,700 That was all about? No, no actually. 429 00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:46,100 Yes. Again with a lot of the 430 00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:48,900 Contemporary topical references. There is, you know, I've got 431 00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:53,000 risk resources where I can find out what they refer to know. 432 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,500 There's nothing I can find. Yeah. 433 00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:58,100 Behind, you know, perhaps listeners some of the more 434 00:23:58,100 --> 00:24:03,300 resourceful listeners are able to access newspaper archives 435 00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:07,000 from around this time and see if there was any new stories. 436 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,800 About washing lines in Downing Street. 437 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,900 I'd love to know. Yeah, it's, that is such a 438 00:24:10,908 --> 00:24:13,500 massive laugh at the time. It is they know something. 439 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,500 What was that? That was such a neat of Ganesha 440 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:19,200 reference at the time must have got such a tweet, tweet 441 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,300 something with people, that makes no sense at all, tweaked 442 00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:24,600 something with people everything. 443 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,500 Does a reference to the Korean War? 444 00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:34,100 Yes, which I didn't check but I think didn't attend about 53, 445 00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:38,100 the Korean War. Hmm, the only thing it could be 446 00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:42,900 is I mean, around this time, in fact, I think Contemporaneous to 447 00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:47,200 this show. Going out, the film Hill in 448 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,600 Korea was out. Okay, I don't know if you're 449 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,400 aware of that film, I don't know. 450 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,900 Don't turns it turns up on talking pictures TV. 451 00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:56,800 I haven't watched it for quite a while. 452 00:24:57,300 --> 00:25:00,500 The only thing of note about it, it's about the set in the Korean 453 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:02,000 War. There was a British soldiers, 454 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,800 and the only thing I know about film really is that it was the 455 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,100 screen debut of film debut of Michael Caine. 456 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,600 All right okay I don't think he's got a speaking role I think 457 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:22,200 he's just one of the soldiers. Yeah might be wrong but around 458 00:25:22,300 --> 00:25:28,900 56 guy Burgess resurfaced publicly in Moscow having 459 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:35,100 defected with Donald MacLean in. Well literally I think two or 460 00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:37,800 three days before the Goon show began in 1951. 461 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:45,300 They poke they defected and And Kim philby was still, well, kick 462 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,400 around this time. I know. 463 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,000 Kim philby was getting a bit of heat. 464 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,600 He was still working for, I believe the security services, 465 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,500 but there was some because of his friendship with particularly 466 00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:57,700 guy. Burgess, there was some 467 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,800 questions being asked about his credibility and suitability and 468 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,400 whether you know, whether he was perhaps in hock to the Russians. 469 00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:13,900 But yes, so around this time, 56, as I say, Russian spies and 470 00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:17,900 British defectors were all over the news. 471 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,900 He and and we have here, segen returns home from the 472 00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:27,300 Parliamentary session either with a set of secret plans, for 473 00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:31,600 a jet-propelled guided Nephi. And his Butler I suppose you 474 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,400 call him. That is grip pipe then. 475 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,300 Hmm. Yes. 476 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:37,800 And grip Pipestone is working for the Russians along. 477 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,600 Yes. The author of my ten years as a 478 00:26:39,608 --> 00:26:41,300 Russian spy. That's right. 479 00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:46,200 Yeah, yeah, so yeah because it seems got these the secret plans 480 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,700 for this jet-propelled guided Nephi, that can be launched to 481 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:53,400 anywhere in the world and set up in 16 seconds. 482 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,600 Hmm, first of all, are you aware of nafeez or what our nephews 483 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,800 do? You know, I didn't know what it 484 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,600 was for years. I looked it up the other day. 485 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,300 Apparently, it stands for the Navy Army, Air, Force Institute. 486 00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:09,900 Yes, it's kind of a fun. It's a great video on YouTube. 487 00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:12,800 Like an advert for the naafi. It's like black and white advert 488 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,300 and it looks basically like a tea room, kind of dance hall, 489 00:27:17,300 --> 00:27:20,300 kind of establishment, it looked great, it was advert for come 490 00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:22,600 and work for the naffy and it was lots of people. 491 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,100 I've been a dancer of a cup of tea. 492 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,200 Yeah, it was set up in 1920 it was basically there was set up 493 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,100 to to let soldiers get something to eat and blow off a bit of 494 00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:35,400 steam. Hmm, recreational facilities. 495 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,000 You know they could have tea dancers or that's not what they 496 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,100 call them. Yeah. 497 00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:44,100 And and at its peak the If he employed 110,000 people all 498 00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:49,500 right and had over 10,000 Outlets selling, you know I 499 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:52,700 guess biscuits cigarettes chocolate to your soldiers. 500 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:57,200 Yeah so again you know when I first heard this show I had no 501 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,200 idea what an Effie was hmm But and and of course back then that 502 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,000 you know you didn't have the internet and it was it wasn't so 503 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,100 easy to look things up and I don't yet have a really looked 504 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:08,600 up what the nephew was. I just kind of Kind of got an 505 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,400 idea what it probably was. Yeah and accepted it as such you 506 00:28:13,408 --> 00:28:16,700 know. Funny enough recently for a show 507 00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:20,000 we did recently about Michael benteen's TV show to square 508 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,000 World. There was a sketch on that about 509 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,600 anafi. Okay, not very good one but so 510 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,200 see ya. So seeking has got this. 511 00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:34,200 There's, there's these plans drawn up for a jet-propelled 512 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,800 guided nephew that can be launched to anywhere in the 513 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,700 world and set up very quickly. And as a sort of part of a 514 00:28:40,708 --> 00:28:45,800 feasibility study, he has a prototype guided Navi launched 515 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,200 to Malaya. Hmm. 516 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,000 Yes. And we here, six seconds later 517 00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:55,500 telephone rings and it's spiked doing unusually for the Goon 518 00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:58,400 show. Kind of William make cobblers 519 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,500 voice. Yeah I thought I was sellers 520 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:03,700 doing that voice. It's like doing it pretty sure 521 00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:06,900 it is. Yeah and I'm guessing the reason 522 00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:09,600 for that is because Go to the mic, has to have the setting, 523 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,200 the telephone? Oh yes. 524 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,100 Setting and sellers is standing by his grip pipe thin. 525 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:17,000 So, I'm assuming that's why despite my Spike did it and then 526 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:23,000 he calls back soon after in says that the basically, these ten 527 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,500 thousand cups Cups of Tea and what are they going to do with a 528 00:29:25,508 --> 00:29:27,100 million? Just going to Chuck them away. 529 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,500 I love the way he says that and what the the kind of resignation 530 00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:34,500 is voices, do you want to or should we throw it all away? 531 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,800 And obviously the watchword being Me, he gets Egan is 532 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,000 outrageous. There's no way he's going to 533 00:29:40,008 --> 00:29:42,500 rearrange. The fly 10,000 soldiers to 534 00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:48,000 Malaya to drink the tea drinker. Meanwhile grip pipes didn't has 535 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,200 tricked ready into letting him photograph, the plans. 536 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,300 Mmm, he says that first of all, before we go on holiday snap and 537 00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:55,600 Ladies of yasur don't get on my bathing. 538 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,600 Costume is how the plans up just just been further, lovely. 539 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:03,200 I love the way he but a snap of Neddy. 540 00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:04,900 I love the way. Does it just right? 541 00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:06,600 Hold them right up under your chin is a bit. 542 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,200 Yeah. Now, one of the most memorable 543 00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:16,300 sequences from this show is the is the grip pipe in Moriarty. 544 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,800 Oh yes, exchange siguen, falls asleep, and grip pipe. 545 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,200 This is the, this is the point where Moriarty announces 546 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,300 himself. Who's that? 547 00:30:34,700 --> 00:31:00,500 How do you spell it? You a literate swine? 548 00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:11,500 It's Moriarty. Where are you? 549 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000 Yeah. The pianos the devil. 550 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000 Are you doing in there? Don't be silly. 551 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Haydn's been dead for years, I don't know that neither do, I 552 00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:30,900 destroy? This is one of the piano strings 553 00:31:30,900 --> 00:31:32,900 which string are you? I think I'm a g-string, so 554 00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:36,600 that's why I can't see you. I'm not sure which string I am. 555 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,800 So you better play a scale go, no Ray, no me. 556 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,200 Got me like this has got to be the best jokes in it in the 557 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,900 whole episode. Some of the best series I think 558 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,300 it is and you know and you know that if this had been written 559 00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:55,700 and recorded and broadcast around the time of the last, you 560 00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:59,600 ensure that all this would have had this joke where Moriarty 561 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,400 ghost yes you know there would have been a different pay off. 562 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,900 Yes. Oh yes. 563 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:12,600 And Moriarty is secreted in the piano and is that great line 564 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,800 which still gets quite to this day. 565 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,600 What the devil you're doing in there? 566 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,400 I'm hidin obesity Haydn's been dead for years, freely online. 567 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,000 It's probably a presuming. It's probably a more padded out. 568 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,900 Like I do Marx. Brothers liner something that's 569 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:28,300 better. Yeah, squirreled away. 570 00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:30,700 You know? Now I'm looking actually, I've 571 00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:35,000 got to copy of the script that Spike spike me. 572 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,800 In script from the actual recording. 573 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,500 All right okay and and I highlighted one particular 574 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,100 Edition because more or less you know there's that there's a 575 00:32:45,108 --> 00:32:47,700 future if you go through the script as if you Crossings out 576 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:50,800 and things like that but there's also some additional lines 577 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,500 written in that they've obviously during the rehearsal 578 00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:58,000 period. It's you know it's spikes had 579 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,200 inspiration and decided actually it's add this line yeah or 580 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,700 whatever. And interestingly when Moriarty 581 00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:07,600 says That he's in the piano and he's disguised as one of the 582 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,400 strings grip. Pipe in the script, says which 583 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,700 Stringer you in the script? Moriarty says I'm not sure play 584 00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:14,800 a scale. Okay. 585 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,600 But you can see in spikes handwriting here. 586 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,000 He's written in. I think I'm a g-string. 587 00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:27,700 So that's why I can't see you. Okay, I didn't know g-strings 588 00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:30,400 existed. No, I did not 50s. 589 00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:34,000 Yeah, you learned some educational this show? 590 00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:37,500 Yeah. I'm so glad that I mean that's a 591 00:33:37,508 --> 00:33:40,500 great line, it is. And and you know, just shows 592 00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:43,100 that you know, even up to the point of recording they were 593 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,800 tweaking and adding to the to the script. 594 00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:50,600 So okay, isn't it? It's around this point that we 595 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,900 get the max geldray number. I always ask guests. 596 00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:59,000 Did you know, did you skip the music brakes? 597 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,400 Or did you always listen to them? 598 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,900 It depends how I'm listening if I'm sitting at home then. 599 00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:07,200 No, I'll usually listen to it as well. 600 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,000 Leave music in if I'm listening. What about when I'm? 601 00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:11,900 Well, I've got my earphones in while I'm walking the dog. 602 00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:15,699 I will usually skip Max geldray as bit just because great 603 00:34:15,699 --> 00:34:18,800 musician and get a great Tunes. But when I've got my earphones 604 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,800 in, and I'm listening to the gun show. 605 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,100 I like to have the sound up as much as possible, so I can hear 606 00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:24,699 all the little bits and pieces going on and don't miss any bits 607 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:27,800 and then all of a sudden somebody blows a harmonica in my 608 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,100 ear. It's a little bit. 609 00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:33,300 I could do without that little bit differently but some how do 610 00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:34,600 you? Yeah, I do like a general, like 611 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,699 music. Wellington's pieces are so I 612 00:34:36,707 --> 00:34:39,500 think a great, he's done some great tunes and it's I think 613 00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:41,699 it's a really nice thing to hear can as part of, you know, the 614 00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:43,800 era as well. That's one of the things I like 615 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,600 about the Goon show. Using it takes you back to that 616 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,699 era just on the music. One of the notable points about 617 00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:52,199 this show, this particular episode. 618 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,400 Is it is it's the introduction of a new theme tune signature 619 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,400 tune. Oh yes, so up to the point and 620 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,700 so the previous show was tails of my Mantra and that was the 621 00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:10,300 last time that the goons Gallop theme tune was used. 622 00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:12,900 Okay, starting from jet-propelled, guarded neffe. 623 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:15,900 There's new signature tune, which is called Lucky Strike, 624 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,900 okay? And it's written by Ray 625 00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:22,000 Ellington guitarist Frank, Denise, and while he stopped, 626 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:23,200 okay? Okay. 627 00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:28,600 So, I'm guessing that, presumably the estate of rail 628 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,300 mounted son, or, you know, get some form of royalties from that 629 00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:38,300 thing tuned, because it's, you aware of, obviously, you're 630 00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:41,500 aware of that theme tune, are you aware of the goons Gallop? 631 00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:44,400 Which was the the previous ancient witch? 632 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,400 How does it is that I want to go through that at the bit bit bit 633 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,500 bit? That's the one. 634 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,500 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's quite straight, I don't 635 00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:53,600 know. The reason why they decided Come 636 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,200 eventually halfway through a series to change it. 637 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,400 That's a strange time to change it. 638 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,100 Yeah, it is. Don't have had any connection 639 00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:04,900 with change of producer. Possibly, I might be having said 640 00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:07,400 that PD Easton was still producer for this one. 641 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,900 I'm not quite sure, I'd love to know that the reasoning behind 642 00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:12,300 that, perhaps, it was just the case that they decided, actually 643 00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:18,100 the sick and tired of of the goons gallop, and this Lucky 644 00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:20,600 Strike, does sound a bit more jazzier, doesn't it? 645 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,900 Yes maybe. Yeah. 646 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,600 Maybe They just they would just butchering and maybe yeah, yeah 647 00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:28,700 it's a strange. It's like when Morecambe and 648 00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:31,500 wise these two finished with obviously bring me sunshine and 649 00:36:31,508 --> 00:36:33,900 then all of a sudden you see an episode, a repeat of an episode 650 00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:36,400 and the be finishing with like, positive thinking that. 651 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,600 But but what's, this isn't bringing sunshine in the vice 652 00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:44,000 and then whether it was when they went to ITV or what they 653 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,100 suddenly changed it. Yeah, I was trying to think of 654 00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:49,900 other shows, comedy shows that have had different things, you 655 00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:52,800 know, things you sort of changed during the run, I know that. 656 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,500 The first and second series or just the first series of Only 657 00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:58,200 Fools and Horses had a different theme tune. 658 00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,900 That's right. The first one had a more classic 659 00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:04,100 kind of zany wacky thing. She's in sitcom theme tune yeah 660 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:10,000 it comes to a boil and then yeah to the with on everyone knows 661 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,300 and yeah I think it was a second series. 662 00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:14,100 I started using one. That's more kind of suited to 663 00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:19,100 the situation of the sitcom. Yeah, because Peepshow as well. 664 00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:22,500 But you had for the first I think couple of series had a 665 00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:25,900 piece of Was Daniel Pemberton relative whose massive in theme 666 00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:28,500 choose, he's unloading, Mexican music, he's written, loads of 667 00:37:28,508 --> 00:37:30,300 things. And then I think for the second 668 00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:33,700 or third series, they started using black officer by Harvey 669 00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:36,400 Danger instead which it's a great tune really works as a 670 00:37:36,408 --> 00:37:39,400 pinching but it was a strange kind of choice to suddenly 671 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,700 switch from one to another so different was it. 672 00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:44,300 Yeah, I remember because the original theme tune for Peepshow 673 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,500 would then be used during the later series as musical stings 674 00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:49,600 wouldn't it? Yeah. 675 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,500 Because it was very sort of experimental. 676 00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:57,400 MMG, it was. Yeah, because this was at the 677 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,600 time when P20 Shake first came out, it was experimental itself. 678 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,500 And so, it suited that and I suppose it may be when it became 679 00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:07,100 more of a mainstream sitcom. Not, you know, by changing, but 680 00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:09,600 because people kind of latched onto it and got, you know what 681 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,100 they were doing? Maybe then they thought, well, 682 00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:13,900 it's over yeah. Punchiest theme tune for it now 683 00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:17,000 and but yeah, like I say, keeping all the stings. 684 00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:18,800 Yeah, I'm trying to think of others. 685 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,500 Other comedy shows that change the thinking. 686 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,200 Any any suggestions from listeners will be gratefully 687 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,100 received. So please, this is probably 688 00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:28,300 something obvious. Some people said something 689 00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:31,300 stirring, it is in the face. There's one from I'm thinking of 690 00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:33,000 right now and I can't think which one it was. 691 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,700 But like you say it, they change the theme tune but all the bits, 692 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,900 the stings stayed the same from the original one. 693 00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:40,400 I can't think what it is. That's going to come to me at 694 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,700 3:00 in the morning. If you don't mind, I'll be mu it 695 00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:44,600 when it comes to me. I've got it. 696 00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:47,600 That's fun. Who's your favorite character or 697 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,200 characters? Venture? 698 00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:52,000 Click definitely echolls. In this one, I love the way the 699 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,200 equals is used as a kind of a running joke, but also a kind of 700 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,400 surprise. Basically he kind of pops up 701 00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:05,300 every so often to resign his. I love the way they use that. 702 00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:08,700 He kind of the first time we have him resigning. 703 00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:10,900 It's that, you know, as you say when he's a minister of works 704 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,600 and they questioned him on why this the sofa cost so much. 705 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,500 And he thinks for a minute then says, I resigned that's it. 706 00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:22,100 And then every so often The episode will go wrong or they'll 707 00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:24,100 be a bad decision made. Who did this? 708 00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:26,500 I resigned and it comes out. Yes. 709 00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:29,900 Because he reappears as the minister of food, the minister 710 00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:32,400 of yes, the chancellor of the exchequer as well Ned. 711 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,800 He says, what, what is a quarter of a million pounds? 712 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,300 Plus 8 pounds, 6 jar Chancellor, what is the quarter of million 713 00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:39,700 veterans, by sequences? I resigned. 714 00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:43,200 It's, I'd love a kind of pull back and reveal. 715 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,200 Jackie only works on the radio. You know, if you know, you were 716 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,100 standing there, it wouldn't work. 717 00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:47,200 True. Absolutely. 718 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,600 Yeah, he's also got my favorite line. 719 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,000 I think in the hole. Episode. 720 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,200 I'm not one for quoting the goons in everyday life, but 721 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,400 there's the scene when just after he resigns for the first 722 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,900 time greenslade, says mr. Echols. 723 00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:04,200 We are not questioning your integrity. 724 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,000 It's your intelligence we're questioning. 725 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,600 And equal says, well, I accept your apology and I use that line 726 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,000 on a weekly basis. It's such a brilliant kind of 727 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,900 graceful climb down. You know, if I'm getting the 728 00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:17,800 children, ready for school in the morning and I'll shout down 729 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,800 the stairs. Get your shoes on and who shot 730 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,100 back. Ron. 731 00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:23,100 Okay. I accept your apology. 732 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,100 It works in every situation. Absolutely. 733 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,800 I think Salazar bloop sell. This is what a blue bottles. 734 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,600 Finest Hours. Oh yes. 735 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,600 He gets power. Doesn't he it? 736 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,900 Yeah, I think maybe it's because he's got a proper role in this 737 00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:41,100 particular episode. He's not just like them dropped 738 00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:42,500 in. As you know there's two night 739 00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:45,300 Watchman and all that one of them's bluebottle he's had. 740 00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:48,400 He's part of the story here and he's in charge of the naffy. 741 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,500 And yeah the comic timing Is superb. 742 00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:53,300 The bit where the sausages explode? 743 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,100 Ah, yes. So that's why they call them 744 00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:59,100 bangers. Hmm, but they are on the ball 745 00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:00,000 with the sound effects in this form. 746 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,900 A chess huge response from the audience in massive, love for 747 00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:06,200 that one yet. So I think the biggest laughs it 748 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,200 for this episode is that one there and weirdly back in the 749 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,600 the first scene with Moriarty and and Group B where B, wait, 750 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,200 how do you spell it? Massive laugh for a tiny 751 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,700 raspberry. That's how you do the rodents 752 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,300 and also you can tell that they're on top form because 753 00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:28,400 there's an exchange with between Moriarty and blood milk. 754 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,400 Hmm. Which is just back and forth, 755 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,800 back and forth, back and forth, without missing a beat. 756 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,100 Yes, yeah, it's incredible. That see the model we reached 757 00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:40,300 the only jet-propelled guided nothing in the world. 758 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,700 It must be destroyed. What are you? 759 00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:45,100 A spy? Yes. 760 00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:47,500 Then why are you covered in? Meantime, am inspired. 761 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,600 The merry Christmas to you too. Now listen would you be willing 762 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,700 to sabotage this secret guided nothing. 763 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,700 How have you know? That I am a patriotic English 764 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,400 gentlemen's? And what does that mean? 765 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,800 Means I'll only do it for money pretty well. 766 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000 Here here is a carbon copy of an imitation. 767 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,300 Hundred pound. Note wait him out. 768 00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:13,000 How do I know this? Carbon copy isn't a forgery. 769 00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:15,200 Oh, look here here's a life-size oil. 770 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,700 Painting of me running the bank with it but it shows you clean 771 00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:19,500 shaven. I was wearing an invisible 772 00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:22,500 beard, great malleable lumps of steam. 773 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,900 Um, I apologize you Chinese think of everything. 774 00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:28,800 I'm not tiny. Then you must have forgotten 775 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,300 something, you should be more careful. 776 00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:33,200 Give me the money, thank you now. 777 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,900 Then what do I do the best often, what, what, what I love 778 00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:38,200 about this episode is just that? It's, it's time. 779 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,800 It's kind of it's set in the present day enough. 780 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,800 That's what I find Most Fascinating about it is, you 781 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,400 know, you can get a picture of what was going on, then, just by 782 00:42:46,408 --> 00:42:49,000 listening to this episode who you got everything in there, you 783 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,500 know, the MPS turning up every so often at Parliament to growl 784 00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:54,700 before. Dashing off to the folies 785 00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:58,600 bergere, you've got all the corruption and I think it's a 786 00:42:58,607 --> 00:43:01,000 lovely, get paint. Such a great picture of that 787 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,500 time. Yeah, it does. 788 00:43:02,500 --> 00:43:05,000 And stripped of its context, as I say. 789 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,200 When I first heard it, when you first heard it, you wouldn't 790 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,900 have known the fact that it was based on the story itself was 791 00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:16,200 based on true fact. And yeah, that's incredible. 792 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,700 And you know, as I said before, the fact that Echols there was a 793 00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:24,300 minister called mr. Eckles It was minister of works, 794 00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:27,200 all that would have, as I say, you know, all of that would have 795 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,100 been very kind, you know, contemporary to the audience of 796 00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:34,300 the time and appreciate it as such. 797 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,700 But even listen to it without having all that context, it's 798 00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:40,400 just a thoroughly enjoyable show. 799 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,100 And it is one of the I can say. There's now it's at the end of 800 00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:47,600 this year, which is only a few weeks away. 801 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,300 I'm going to be releasing a special show, we're going to be 802 00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:53,800 counting down, blisters top, Top 20 gun shows. 803 00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:56,800 Okay, I know that. You've, you very kindly, 804 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,800 supplied me with your favorite show? 805 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:00,200 Come over. What? 806 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,500 That was actually, which one was it? 807 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,600 Gosh, I remember now I got a second. 808 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,400 I've got it here. Let me try and find. 809 00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:09,500 It was a top three I think, wasn't it? 810 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,500 Yes. Can I find all my goodness? 811 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,800 Oh yes. So my top one Napoleon's piano. 812 00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:19,800 Oh yeah. Obviously big fan of episodes 813 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,500 with pianos in then the green flag story. 814 00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:27,700 Which is just I love that because it's like I said, one of 815 00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:29,200 my favorite things about the goons is when they just messing 816 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,800 around with each other. And that's a whole episode of 817 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,000 just like, navel-gazing just met honest and just about the Goon 818 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:35,700 show. Basically. 819 00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:38,600 Yep. And then frog, I think I had too 820 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,800 much my third because again it's free it from the present time. 821 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,300 It was all about the great London, Fog and it just painted 822 00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:46,900 a picture of what life was like. Then. 823 00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:49,300 Yeah. So you took your top two. 824 00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:50,800 They're very popular for our viewers. 825 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,100 What are those that never gets Talked about very much really. 826 00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:55,500 It's all right. Great. 827 00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:59,200 It's got one of the the best jokes in it when sequins walking 828 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,100 through the fog and he comes across mini banister and he says 829 00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:04,600 Madam can I direct you somewhere? 830 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,300 And she says, I think I better direct you sir me, you direct me 831 00:45:08,300 --> 00:45:10,800 what makes you think I'm lost here in my kitchen? 832 00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:16,600 Yes, but yes, in the end of December I'll be putting out 833 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,000 this. This top 20 goon show Lister 834 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,000 goon show episode, okay? And I can tell you Not going to 835 00:45:23,008 --> 00:45:26,200 give particular placing but I can't tell you the jet-propelled 836 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,100 garden. Fe is in the top 10. 837 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,300 Oh fantastic. Yeah oh that's great to hear. 838 00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:35,800 I won't give away anything in anything else but now it's a 839 00:45:35,808 --> 00:45:39,000 really enjoyable showed us one that you can listen to again. 840 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,400 And again, there's certain goon shows that I will just listen to 841 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,600 on hard rotation. Mmm. 842 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,600 Yeah, plenty of the Elder, this, the flea, they all tend to be a 843 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,200 funny enough. They all tend to be ones that 844 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,300 were commercially released. Oh yep. 845 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,200 That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I think this one. 846 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,400 It's got so many memorable jokes that just work on their own as 847 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,400 well. It's got so many quotable lines. 848 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,000 It's got, you know, jokes that kind of like you say, it's 849 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,200 difficult to think about it in a linear fashion because there are 850 00:46:08,207 --> 00:46:11,100 jokes, that could just like they did they stand out so well and 851 00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:13,500 they could sloppy anywhere. It's brilliant. 852 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:17,500 One of the best ones is back at the scene is with the piano 853 00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:19,500 where Moriarty is disguised as a piano string. 854 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,200 It's, it feels like the perfect joke because Rip up to us to 855 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,000 find him by playing a scale, his players go home. 856 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,100 And I'll tell you, she's been and he plays a note do. 857 00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:32,200 No, that's not me. Ray, it wasn't me. 858 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,200 Let me me, that's me. It's like, it's the rule of 859 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,700 three, it's the third one, and it's me, is me that is it's 860 00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:41,000 like, Spike Milligan wrote to the piano scale just for that 861 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,300 joke. It is, it is I've written on my 862 00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:47,100 notes here as well. Okay, I could just try to work 863 00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:50,300 out what I meant by this. I'd written heavy breathing. 864 00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:54,100 Oh And I just remember what it is. 865 00:46:54,300 --> 00:47:01,000 Oh, so when Blue Bottle puts the sausages in the refrigerator's, 866 00:47:01,700 --> 00:47:03,600 it goes off with Echoes to get a frying pan. 867 00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:07,100 They go out and you hear the door, open and close and then 868 00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:10,600 there's a pause before the door opens again and grip pipe and 869 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,900 Moriarty come in. Yeah. 870 00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:15,200 And obviously, Sellers and Milligan have just been playing 871 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,100 blue bottle and Echols. The door closes. 872 00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:22,100 You can hear both men breathing into the microphone for before 873 00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:23,800 the door opened. Again, yeah, but you never 874 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,900 listen. So even getting into the kind of 875 00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:28,100 character. Do you think is that taking a 876 00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:30,100 pause to kind of become another person? 877 00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:39,800 Possibly? Wow, yeah, headphones. 878 00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:46,000 Yes, that sellers would become each character. 879 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,600 He himself up to be blood milk or he would have himself small, 880 00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:52,400 sort of make themselves small, you know, I suppose. 881 00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:55,900 He would kind of reduce himself in size now, but some shots up 882 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,300 and I can imagine sort of throwing his head back to play 883 00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:02,500 grip pipe thin so maybe he was maybe he was getting into. 884 00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:08,600 Yeah, ha, ha yes. So so James, I'm English. 885 00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:11,900 Thank you very much for for joining me to talk about this 886 00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:13,900 show. Thank you so much for having me 887 00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:15,000 on it. So I think I've just about got 888 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,800 over the year, The Imposter syndrome of appearing, on the 889 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,700 same podcast, is Jonathan Co and Al Murray and so many amazing 890 00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:25,900 people. Oh well, I love having the more 891 00:48:25,900 --> 00:48:29,500 famous people, and I like having bog standard Ordinary People. 892 00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:34,800 Thanks, I just, of course, everyone has got a story to tell 893 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,700 about, you know, their history with the show and what they like 894 00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:39,100 about it. What they don't like about it. 895 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,600 But so James you're obviously on Twitter at drivel cast, I am, 896 00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:47,400 you used to have a Blog that I didn't think you do that now or 897 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,000 do you? That's all logs. 898 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,700 I used to have a Blog up that's still in my mouth. 899 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,000 They still in my By offering to take that out because I've 900 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,800 updated it for about five years. I think the last thing I baste 901 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,400 it with was a some satirical. Topical drink about George 902 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,000 Osborne, being the chance like a lot, but been a while he 903 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,900 resigned, didn't he, he did, he resign go to me. 904 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,000 What did he did? He did he get it? 905 00:49:10,008 --> 00:49:16,900 No, he resigned. Wow, but you're on the radio as 906 00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:18,200 well? I am. 907 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,300 Yes. I want to station black cat 908 00:49:20,300 --> 00:49:22,600 radio. I have a couple of showers A 909 00:49:22,607 --> 00:49:25,900 week is what I do. I show during the day kind of a 910 00:49:25,908 --> 00:49:29,600 big day time you show and then kind of an evening show as well 911 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,200 playing kind of alternative music, new music that kind of 912 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,000 thing. Just kind of stuff that doesn't 913 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,700 get played enough really and oh it's just it's a thrill and a 914 00:49:38,700 --> 00:49:42,900 joy to do and it's I can't believe that somebody's let me 915 00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:45,800 on a radio station to play songs for a couple of hours a week. 916 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,000 Its massive. Privileges some it's wonderful. 917 00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:50,400 Great. Excellent. 918 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,400 It's a black cat radio. If you fancy, it is Andy. 919 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,500 You've gotta find a new favorite band. 8:00, Tuesday nights on. 920 00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:58,000 I'm like a radio. And obviously, your name is 921 00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,600 James page. You never call yourself, Jimmy 922 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,100 D. No! 923 00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:03,900 I get that a lot from. Can I call you? 924 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:06,600 Okay. All right. 925 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,800 James, we'll listen, thanks, mate. 926 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,900 And maybe you can come back sometime and talk about it as a 927 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,700 film or something like that. Thank you, sir, thank you so 928 00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:14,200 much. I'd love to. 929 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,900 He's been it's really surreal talking to you after listening 930 00:50:16,900 --> 00:50:18,800 to the podcast for, so, for so long. 931 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,900 And that surely, you're talking to me. 932 00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:21,900 I think he's asking your question. 933 00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:24,500 This isn't one. Amazing. 934 00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:28,100 I love the podcast so much and this you have regular dog 935 00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:31,200 walking listening. And whenever got a day off, its 936 00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:32,800 it's just, you get some great guests. 937 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,000 And like, I say, and Jonathan, Kobe alone of, I'm not missing 938 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,500 that one yet, but I just can't believe you. 939 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,500 You've come on and so many incredible scaffold for the 940 00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:44,900 week. Thanks again to James and thank 941 00:50:44,900 --> 00:50:47,900 you for that lovely words. And really appreciated having 942 00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:49,000 you on the show? It was great. 943 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,200 I'm sorry. If I sounded a bit flat, I don't 944 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,700 know what was going on there. I I started listening back. 945 00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:58,100 I started very off-key low energy more than usual. 946 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,500 Thank you all for listening. We getting closer to Christmas 947 00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:06,100 and thankfully it will soon all be over. 948 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,000 Take care of yourselves. See you next week. 949 00:51:09,000 --> 00:50:53,700 Bye. I started listening back. 950 00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:58,100 I started very off-key low energy more than usual. 951 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,500 Thank you all for listening. We getting closer to Christmas 952 00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:06,100 and thankfully it will soon all be over. 953 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,000 Take care of yourselves. See you next week. 954 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:09,500 Bye.