1 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:22,900 This organic vindaloo. Person. 2 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,900 See the lads? Get double helpings. 3 00:00:24,900 --> 00:01:00,900 If the wind drops or here. Heidi. 4 00:01:00,900 --> 00:01:07,900 Hi and welcome to Green Pod. When expecting that now this 5 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:11,800 week my guest is the actor Geoffrey Holland Jeffrey has one 6 00:01:11,808 --> 00:01:16,500 of those instantly recognizable faces from a career largely 7 00:01:16,500 --> 00:01:20,000 carved out in sitcoms he's best known as Spike Dixon. 8 00:01:20,100 --> 00:01:23,900 The rather third-rate Camp comic in one of the biggest shows of 9 00:01:23,900 --> 00:01:26,700 the 80s the aforementioned ID. Hi! 10 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,600 He also starred as James 12 Trees in you rang m'lord and 11 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:32,800 settle in. Oh dr. 12 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,800 Beaching in in one he along with John Glover and who seek Him and 13 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,900 Christopher Timothy appeared of a dirk maggs produced show goon 14 00:01:41,900 --> 00:01:47,200 again celebrating the Goon shows half century and Jeffrey Chief 15 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,100 to perform the Peter Sellers Parts in the show which was 16 00:01:51,100 --> 00:01:55,300 drawing together elements from earlier goon show scripts and 17 00:01:55,300 --> 00:02:00,400 what resulted was a very warm exuberant and fitting tribute to 18 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,700 the goons I spoke to Jeffrey about that and also other bits 19 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,300 Of his career and we kicked off with him, telling me about 20 00:02:08,300 --> 00:02:11,100 something. He'd watched on the never betted 21 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:16,700 talking pictures TV. Well, the sellers on Sunday 22 00:02:16,700 --> 00:02:20,000 afternoon in the small was showing up us. 23 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,700 It was on talking pictures TV. Hmm. 24 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,600 And every tree played in that mr. 25 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,100 Quill, the projectionists in the old Cinema, it was great. 26 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:30,800 You got a gray wig on a gray eyebrows, and mustache, and he 27 00:02:30,808 --> 00:02:34,500 was doing old acting. Yes, you know, like you did. 28 00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:39,200 So And it struck me. The character he was doing. 29 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,200 It was almost a forerunner to Clive. 30 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,400 Clive Dunn's. Corporal Jones and there? 31 00:02:44,700 --> 00:02:46,900 Yeah, he was, he was doing that same sort of voice. 32 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:50,400 You know that shh. That's, that's a good point. 33 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Yeah. Because and he was, he was 34 00:02:52,300 --> 00:02:57,400 console that none and nicked. The idea of a gold men for Years 35 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,300 anyway since she was 17 in 70. Yeah. 36 00:03:01,300 --> 00:03:03,400 Yeah. Well he and some others would 37 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:09,800 have been what he'd been 32. When he made that film 1957? 38 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,700 Yeah, I mean 32, I mean, Clive done. 39 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:15,000 That's a good. That's a good sort of jumping 40 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,700 off point because I understand that you first got working with 41 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:23,200 Crofton Perry through the Dead zombie stage show I did indeed 42 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,300 yes, I was recruited into that through an audition. 43 00:03:26,300 --> 00:03:29,300 I didn't want to go to, you know, it's wonderful. 44 00:03:29,300 --> 00:03:32,000 One of the most wonderful things in life, you know, when you turn 45 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 a corner, you didn't even know there was a caller. 46 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,700 And they take to change my life. I didn't want to go to this 47 00:03:37,700 --> 00:03:39,600 audition a little while. I was enjoying myself. 48 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,800 I was a chick Easter now. I'm doing the festival in 75. 49 00:03:44,100 --> 00:03:47,400 Yeah and I got the call to go up to London to audition for 50 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,300 Crofton Perry. I'm Roger and Farmers staging. 51 00:03:50,300 --> 00:03:53,000 It not work with him in rep. So he'd ask for because he knew 52 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,500 I could be quite useful to the show Grand. 53 00:03:56,500 --> 00:03:58,100 I won't up. You know, I've got nothing 54 00:03:58,100 --> 00:04:00,200 prepared. I was in a real foul mood. 55 00:04:01,300 --> 00:04:03,600 Certainly nothing ready at also to offer them. 56 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,200 And when I got there I was Given a script to look at, although, 57 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,100 at least I could read something from this. 58 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,900 And and I found in the script, what I was thumbing through 59 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:14,500 either a song, which was a parody of. 60 00:04:14,500 --> 00:04:18,800 Yes, we Have No Bananas sung by Walker a spiv. 61 00:04:19,899 --> 00:04:23,100 So I got through the audition. I was getting on with it and do 62 00:04:23,100 --> 00:04:25,700 and, you know, they were laughing and I was feeling 63 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:27,800 better about myself. You know, my self-esteem had 64 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,200 gone up considerably, then they're gone song bit. 65 00:04:30,500 --> 00:04:33,200 Let's have a look. I found this in the script as if 66 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,400 I do it with the book in my hand, I said Of course not. 67 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,200 So I fixed the key with The Pianist and we sang this. 68 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,400 Yes, we Have No Bananas every day and they will roll it about 69 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,200 laughs Eli said, I'm not cocky and I said it today. 70 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,200 Wouldn't you be? I said you, you enjoyed that, 71 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,300 didn't you? And they said, yes, we did 72 00:04:48,300 --> 00:04:51,400 actually, we should he did and I said, well, you wrote it, you 73 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,600 know, but they said yes, we we wrote it down in longhand. 74 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,000 Gave it to the typist, a typo, but we haven't seen it since 75 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,800 we've never heard it. So you know, that wasn't me 76 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,700 doing a first for them and I got the job. 77 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,500 Well, that's it. Simple as that. 78 00:05:05,500 --> 00:05:07,100 I didn't want to go to that audition. 79 00:05:07,300 --> 00:05:09,400 And I got a job that changed my life. 80 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:13,900 Absolutely. I first became aware of you, of 81 00:05:13,900 --> 00:05:18,800 course, like I guess most people abide, by the way, I was looking 82 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:24,400 at your IMDb page and I noticed that your first, I think your 83 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,200 first speaking role on television was an episode of 84 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,000 Dixon of dock green. Whoa. 85 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,500 And I checked. It was actually, it was 86 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:37,400 broadcast about a week before I was born. 74. 87 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,500 Yeah yeah. But now I first became aware of 88 00:05:40,500 --> 00:05:42,300 your thoughts through hi-dee-hi. Yes. 89 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:46,100 Of course. Which rather neatly began first 90 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:48,400 day of the 80s, didn't it? Yes, you would. 91 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,700 Yes. We recorded the pilot in October 92 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:56,100 79 and they broadcasted on New Year's Day 1980 the first day of 93 00:05:56,100 --> 00:05:59,200 the 80s. Yeah, Bo did rather. 94 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,000 Well, I think and I want to talk I want to come back and talk 95 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,500 about that and hi-dee-hi specifically but Before I do. 96 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,900 And I, and by the way, the Jeff you don't mind me calling you, 97 00:06:08,907 --> 00:06:10,400 Jeff. Do you please, everyone? 98 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:14,800 By the way, I do tend to go all over the place. 99 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:18,200 You know, the conversation will go off in all directions. 100 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Okay, sir. So with you, okay, there's I 101 00:06:23,207 --> 00:06:25,900 want to say eight words to you. All right? 102 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,700 And I, and I just want to hear your reaction. 103 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:33,500 Okay? Clears, throat strides for the 104 00:06:33,500 --> 00:06:35,100 owe me with the NAFTA. Yeah. 105 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,900 Are you being served? Yeah, you're the hippie hair 106 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:42,800 cut. How that? 107 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,900 I'll be huge. Babying, so fan. 108 00:06:45,300 --> 00:06:48,100 And that is probably that episode, which is, I think it's 109 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:52,700 called the old order changes. So that, that is, yeah, that is 110 00:06:52,700 --> 00:06:54,300 my favorite. Are you being served episode of 111 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:56,700 all time and that scene with you? 112 00:06:56,700 --> 00:07:00,600 And Frank Thornton is probably the best scene of that episode. 113 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,600 It's almost identical caftans have been through boy. 114 00:07:07,900 --> 00:07:10,100 By the way, you say then, pant me man. 115 00:07:10,300 --> 00:07:14,700 Yeah, very difficult to say that. 116 00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:31,700 He's man love me, man. You call Stevie Baby. 117 00:07:34,700 --> 00:07:36,300 Triage for the owe me with a knife. 118 00:07:36,300 --> 00:07:51,000 Raya update here, what? A tight, clay single word stay 119 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,200 with it. Any still, it could be goodbyes 120 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:59,500 will complete. I didn't realize that was you 121 00:07:59,900 --> 00:08:03,600 for the longest time. Really, so I'd what I'd see that 122 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:04,800 episode. I don't know when I first saw 123 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,400 that episode, but I taped them because they were repeated, when 124 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,200 I was growing up, and I didn't realize that was you for the 125 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,000 longest time, and then I must adjust must have just been that. 126 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,600 I was looking at the end credits and recognized your name. 127 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,200 Yeah, I know what you mean because to be, to be fair, 128 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,700 you've got the glasses, you've got the big afro wig the 129 00:08:20,700 --> 00:08:23,500 glasses, my own golf is after time, okay? 130 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,600 Okay. Glasses. 131 00:08:26,100 --> 00:08:29,200 Although, at the time I would have, as I say, I would have 132 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,200 known you a spike. Yeah, I'm Heidi. 133 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,299 Hi. But everyday, people's do people 134 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,799 ever talk to you about you about because you're enabling serve 135 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:39,100 twice with you? Yeah. 136 00:08:39,100 --> 00:08:41,299 Well there was an example from twice as well. 137 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,600 Oh yeah. I'll be re watching some of 138 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,200 those recently. They do hold up despite the 139 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,700 slide, some of their time, kind of issues. 140 00:08:49,700 --> 00:08:51,500 If you like that they do. Hold up. 141 00:08:51,500 --> 00:08:54,400 Big issue was Michael Bates but blacking up as an Indian. 142 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,700 Yeah, it was, he was born in India. 143 00:08:56,700 --> 00:08:59,800 He spoke bird over. He spoke Hindi, he spoke the 144 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,300 dials and dialects As he grew up with it, and if anybody was more 145 00:09:04,300 --> 00:09:08,200 capable, it was him because quite, you know, there's all 146 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,900 this who are about it. There weren't many good Indian 147 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:16,400 actors around in the 70s when they were making that series, 148 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,900 you know, David Croft, it did employee. 149 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:21,600 What Indian actors were available that they, they just 150 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,500 weren't very good. They got the experience, but 151 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:27,700 they are like they have now, you know, you've got some wonderful 152 00:09:27,700 --> 00:09:29,900 Indian actors now they're around. 153 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:33,600 But dude, if the time it is Wasn't the case, the big 154 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,500 Revelation for me having not seen. 155 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:39,700 It ain't half hot mum since I was a kid and as I say we 156 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:41,600 watching some reason relatively recently. 157 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:47,300 How good wins a Davis is in that role? 158 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,400 Oh yes absolutely fantastic. The timing his comedy timing is 159 00:09:52,100 --> 00:09:57,100 second to none. Perfect but yeah, Heidi height 160 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,600 spike is right. I think Heidi Hi to a certain 161 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,300 degree is all about relationships. 162 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:07,600 Absolutely. Because you got, you've got 163 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,700 obviously Ted and Spike which to me is kind of like a married 164 00:10:11,700 --> 00:10:13,300 couple. Yeah. 165 00:10:13,300 --> 00:10:17,200 With with Spike being in the cast in the role of the 166 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,200 long-suffering wife I suppose you got Barry. 167 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:26,300 Devon of course which those will bury in particular is a real 168 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:29,800 favorite character of mine. His permanent hangdog 169 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:30,900 expression. Yeah. 170 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,400 You've got Geoffrey fairbrother and bladders and later Squadron 171 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:41,000 leaders and Squadron leader. Don't get God, I've done but but 172 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,600 let's be fair. I think, most people, I think 173 00:10:45,100 --> 00:10:48,100 for most people, the fairbrother years. 174 00:10:48,100 --> 00:10:50,500 The fair Jeffrey fairbrother. Yeah. 175 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,100 Is the stronger. It was wrong. 176 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,200 Ha bye. Mummy was. 177 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,500 Absolutely wonderful. Because he was really, really 178 00:10:56,500 --> 00:11:00,200 was a fish out of water, but the most talented actor and he took 179 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,600 what lines? David Jimmy gave him and he made 180 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,300 them totally real. I made the character totally 181 00:11:05,300 --> 00:11:08,400 believable and not the Debbie Griffey. 182 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,100 Didn't when he came in, he did had a bit, very big boots to 183 00:11:11,100 --> 00:11:15,800 fill, but it was a complete reversal of the role diamonds. 184 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,800 Three years will always be remembered. 185 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,000 Is that the best that I think the favorite with all the 186 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,500 viewers? Yeah. 187 00:11:21,900 --> 00:11:23,500 And of course it you had mr. Partridge. 188 00:11:23,500 --> 00:11:26,400 And yes, Fred quickly. Fred. 189 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:27,400 That's right. Yeah. 190 00:11:28,100 --> 00:11:31,300 Because they, they were always like a married couple in a way. 191 00:11:32,500 --> 00:11:36,500 You smell. It also has a clean smell. 192 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:40,400 He said, it's by the way, because Felix bonus was famously 193 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,500 a warm-up man? Wasn't he? 194 00:11:42,100 --> 00:11:45,500 Yes, he warned all David shows up so you write. 195 00:11:45,500 --> 00:11:47,900 So he was going to ask you that. So he did the warm-up for hiding 196 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:50,000 high as well, did he? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 197 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,600 Did. He went back into double the 198 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,600 dad. Salamis Bill Pertwee helped her 199 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:58,100 with our jar, me but Felix was recruited in and stayed in. 200 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,200 Who are all David shows your Dad's Army, ain't our fault. 201 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,100 Hopefully, you know, I being served in hi-dee-hi, you 202 00:12:04,100 --> 00:12:08,000 radicals locally, you know, they gave my part in it and what 203 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,400 about your relationship with the whole Shane? 204 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,300 How did that develop wonderful? It was just magic. 205 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,800 The first, I'll go to this all about the first day I ever met 206 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,500 him. They'd already cast me a spike 207 00:12:21,500 --> 00:12:24,500 in hi-dee-hi back in 79 and they were writing it. 208 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,800 So the middle early summer months of 79, they were 209 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:34,500 struggling to find a Ted bovis. And they should be found pull on 210 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:37,000 Coronation Street. He saw him playing out for 211 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,500 Roberts, Boston, and he rang David up and said, we got 212 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:41,000 Coronation Street. Only said no. 213 00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:43,400 So we'll have a look. I think we found ten bovis. 214 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,500 Anyway, they're called Paul Shane down to London because he 215 00:12:46,500 --> 00:12:50,100 lives in Rotherham, they called him that to London to, to read a 216 00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:54,900 couple of scenes with being with me and he was he was chatting 217 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:57,100 with you being Davey in the rehearsal room and I was called 218 00:12:57,100 --> 00:13:00,100 in to meet him. And as I walked in walk into 219 00:13:00,100 --> 00:13:02,400 this huge rehearsal room. M standing in the middle of the 220 00:13:02,408 --> 00:13:06,700 floor looking totally lost lesson and I walk towards it 221 00:13:06,700 --> 00:13:08,400 with my hand out said, hello, Paul. 222 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,900 Lovely to meet you my name's Jeff, are you doing and all out? 223 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,800 And he took my hand and he shook his head and he smiled. 224 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,200 And he and then he looked at me rather sideways, you know. 225 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:19,700 And I thought, what's the matter? 226 00:13:19,700 --> 00:13:24,400 And he looked at me and he said, we met before we worked together 227 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,200 before, and I said, no, no, no. Because I would have remembered. 228 00:13:28,300 --> 00:13:33,500 You know what he saw then was What happened for me to that was 229 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:36,500 the instant Chemistry Between Us. 230 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,800 Something went ping, something went click, you know, and I 231 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,800 think really it showed you all the work we did over the years. 232 00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:46,400 You know, the relationship was very, very special. 233 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,900 We were very, very close porn. I very close. 234 00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:52,100 So what is the first rule of Comedy? 235 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,000 Did you mail it? Did you nail it down? 236 00:13:54,700 --> 00:13:57,900 It was always different. The first one will see you. 237 00:13:58,300 --> 00:14:01,200 You must have reality. Come on Spike. 238 00:14:01,300 --> 00:14:02,900 Must have reality, you know that was it. 239 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:09,300 Never never confuse your audience, was another one morals 240 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:10,800 for I could never get anything right? 241 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:14,500 Didn't they, the first episode didn't that? 242 00:14:14,500 --> 00:14:16,300 Wasn't there a reference to Coronation Street? 243 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,300 Yes, because he'd been for audition was sitting on the 244 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:24,400 train on my own with me on my way, to my plans, and he said, 245 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,300 I've been for this audition, but this is television Company doing 246 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:31,200 a show about this monkey Street this monkey Street. 247 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,100 Apparently I did write for it. So he said, I think I've got it 248 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,600 and of course, later on the episode. 249 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,100 He receives a letter. Dear mr. 250 00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:40,300 Boies. Sorry to inform you etcetera. 251 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:42,300 Etcetera. Got it. 252 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,300 And he was heartbroken. But, you know, and that yes, it 253 00:14:45,300 --> 00:14:48,400 was a passing reference to Coronation Street didn't 254 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,200 actually named me, but we all knew what it was and you've been 255 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,900 incarnations, you haven't you? I did one episode. 256 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,300 Yes, I did. One episode where I did two 257 00:14:56,300 --> 00:15:01,200 scenes with Craig Charles and I don't know hmrc. 258 00:15:01,300 --> 00:15:05,100 The inspector I called on him to, you know, to check on his 259 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:08,500 taxes because he wasn't doing his tax. 260 00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:12,700 Returns, are called argument has one more wonderful scene in the 261 00:15:12,700 --> 00:15:14,500 play. This really, I wish they could 262 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:17,700 to you, to actually was a lovely character whose name is Clive, 263 00:15:17,700 --> 00:15:20,500 drink water. And he was a tax inspector, and 264 00:15:20,500 --> 00:15:22,700 he, he lived with his bomber. Who blew these? 265 00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:24,900 Old mum? I'll say, two more. 266 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,600 Okay, right. I can't talk about how order is. 267 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,200 She was at all heard Donald Becker. 268 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,800 No Donnelly. CDs are all the absolute 269 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,800 pristine order. Everything was such a camp 270 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,300 character. It really fun to do Street had a 271 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,300 has a long history of of characters of that type. 272 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,200 Let's go seriously. It was a it was a great Charles 273 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,900 said to me afterwards he said you know what you just did. 274 00:15:50,900 --> 00:15:55,500 He said you just done a perfect example of good old-fashioned 275 00:15:55,500 --> 00:16:00,200 Connery as it used to be a comedy character and it was 276 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,900 upgrade it played it. Your company. 277 00:16:01,900 --> 00:16:05,800 Yeah, really work but you know, they go, they didn't call me 278 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,300 back. So no respect. 279 00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:10,800 Quickly, back to hi-dee-hi two episodes that I always think 280 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,500 about. I don't even, I don't think 281 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:15,200 that, I haven't, I should have watched, you know what? 282 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,600 I should have done, my research and re-watch them ahead of that 283 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,100 call. But ones that stick in my mind 284 00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:24,300 is the what the episode with is the spot, the dumb competition 285 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,300 with Yvonne looking like she's sucking lemons. 286 00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:32,800 So I mean, We'll say it, he couldn't get them. 287 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:39,400 I couldn't say it, shall I say, you couldn't say that Mabley to 288 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,000 pull the curtains to show it. Move the audience, just shouted. 289 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:52,800 The name that your bum to know. Now what Joe Maddon was on the 290 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,400 blower first thing this morning, don't worry, I covered it for 291 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,900 you. He's insisting we've got to do 292 00:16:57,900 --> 00:17:04,000 the bum competition. What did you ever see that 293 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,800 program on teleco? Watch my line. 294 00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:09,700 Occasionally, well, we used to do one called that's your boom. 295 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:21,800 Hello, campers hi-dee-hi Jeffrey. 296 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:27,200 Can't hear you, howdy, hi. Yes. 297 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,700 Well, now we have For Your Entertainment and Delight 298 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,700 competition with his being brought. 299 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,900 Brought back by popular request, it was very popular last year 300 00:17:40,700 --> 00:17:44,500 although of course I wasn't here then this is my first season as 301 00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:48,900 you all know God's sake get on with it but it was voted the 302 00:17:48,900 --> 00:17:54,000 most popular competition ever ever once it called love. 303 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,000 It's a novel sort of thing. Yeah. 304 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:20,100 There was is it and here to tell you all about 305 00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:23,400 it is your and the other episode, which is probably my 306 00:18:23,408 --> 00:18:28,700 favorite that I could that I think of is the episode when Ted 307 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:34,400 gets offered this Mucky film. Oh yeah, yeah and favorites and 308 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,100 Peggy. Peggy kind of gets it, involves 309 00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:38,800 herself. So it. 310 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,700 So he gets all these male campers to put to pay. 311 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:43,700 What does that acquitted tight? Like a quitter pop? 312 00:18:44,300 --> 00:18:46,700 And they're going to show this film late at night in the 313 00:18:46,700 --> 00:18:49,300 ballroom or something and Peggy turns up selling chalk. 314 00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:53,100 Eyes has because she thinks it's a film about brain surgery or 315 00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:58,500 something doctors. Yeah, and It's called it's 316 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:01,100 called it's a blue world, right? Yeah. 317 00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:05,300 Yeah, but the big finish is conspire as found the film and 318 00:19:05,300 --> 00:19:06,200 he knows it. What it? 319 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,800 What it is, these swaps it and at the end, you know, you said 320 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,300 the Police Inspector says, turn the projector on Console. 321 00:19:13,300 --> 00:19:16,400 Let's see what's going on here and he turns the projector on 322 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,700 all you hear is do it. Did you do, did we? 323 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:24,600 Yeah, but to tend to say, well, here's another nice mess, I've 324 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,700 gotten you out of Stanley. And then of course, following 325 00:19:29,700 --> 00:19:32,900 hi-dee-hi. You then went on pretty much 326 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:34,700 straight away I guess to you rang m'lord. 327 00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:38,000 Yeah, the following year we did the pilot of You Rang. 328 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,800 Yeah. Now I did I enjoyed that but it 329 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,100 took me a while to get into it and I guess it's because it's 330 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:47,100 such a tonal shift. Yeah. 331 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,400 From Heidi high. And I remember very clearly 332 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:55,900 watching the first episode and having to sort of re-calibrate, 333 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,500 my expectations. I don't know because Because 334 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,600 Paul was playing a completely different character. 335 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,700 I mean he was he was on the on the make. 336 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,500 Yes. But he was still playing a 337 00:20:05,500 --> 00:20:09,200 completely different character and you were this or rather 338 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,900 austere. Rather severe character not 339 00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:14,000 given to levity snotty. Yeah. 340 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,800 Yeah. This is probably the house. 341 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:19,700 Yeah. And and it took me a while I 342 00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:24,100 mean I suppose Seuss. Character was similar in many 343 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:26,600 ways to Peggy. Yeah. 344 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,900 But the underdog Yeah, but it took it to take me a little 345 00:20:30,900 --> 00:20:33,800 while to, I'll be honest too warm to the up, to the to warm 346 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,200 to the show. But I did into with time. 347 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,800 You're not alone in that, you know, because it was so very, 348 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,300 very different. Mmm, people used to see us doing 349 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:45,400 all the difficulties. We had a rehearsal when we were 350 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,300 rehearsing, the pilot episode AB support, I could call each other 351 00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:53,300 Ted and Spike. Instead of James, you know, 352 00:20:54,500 --> 00:20:57,800 better get used to that, but how long do they? 353 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,600 All for, how long did you know needle or years without really? 354 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,000 We only made 26 episodes but they were 50 minutes long, you 355 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:05,900 see. Mmm. 356 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:11,600 It was a 50-minute show very popular in Hungary very, very 357 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,800 much. So we had a big event in 2018 358 00:21:15,300 --> 00:21:18,800 and we went over there. I drew it was actually my idea 359 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,700 because I met some a lot of hungarians before that the year 360 00:21:22,700 --> 00:21:25,900 before, in fact, of the whole load of the come over to flute, 361 00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:29,700 flown over from Budapest. To London to see me in my sun 362 00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:33,600 Laurel, show in jermyn Street Theater, made the made the 363 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,200 effort to come and see my play clothes. 364 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,000 Only, we all met up following day, outside the bedroom house 365 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,900 in Hollywood, Parker's, where he, we shot the pilot and we've 366 00:21:43,900 --> 00:21:46,600 been made a lot of really good friends and I did a radio 367 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:52,300 interview for the hungarians, which was translated by the back 368 00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:55,200 into Hungarian by the actor, who dumped my voice of the show. 369 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,200 Did. That's what are we gonna do next 370 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,000 year? Which was 2018 coming up to 371 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,600 celebrate the 30th anniversary of the pilot episode, which we 372 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,800 made in 1988, and I suddenly, I think occurred to me. 373 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,700 I said, well, look, why don't we all come over to Budapest of 374 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:19,100 celebrating with you. They said leave it with us. 375 00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:23,100 And, you know, they sorted it out, they funded it, they 376 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:26,300 crowdfunded the whole event. Actually, it was a make with 377 00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:29,800 people shout money and me. Couldn't I didn't realize it was 378 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,400 so huge. And that the one thing that did 379 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,400 happen on that particular occasion. 380 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,200 We have 900 people in a huge room was part of university 381 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,200 complex, and I got the costume. I kept the costume of the end of 382 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,800 the series. I hope nobody's having this. 383 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,100 It's mine. Yeah, and I took it with me to 384 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:51,400 boot and I put it on because they asked me if I'd take a tray 385 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,400 of drinks up with Hungarian. Actors, who did the first half 386 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,500 of the show, telling their own Stories. 387 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:59,800 The hungarians who actually Quite well known in Hungary. 388 00:22:59,900 --> 00:23:05,200 They don't go our voices and the lady was comparing the whole 389 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,900 thing, rang a bell. And so I think we need a drink, 390 00:23:07,900 --> 00:23:11,300 don't you ring the bell? And I walked on from the side 391 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,700 with this tray of drinks dressed as James 12 trees and the noise 392 00:23:15,700 --> 00:23:19,600 that crowd made, you wouldn't believe it actually. 393 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,400 I said, you know, because I got myself onto the front page of 394 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,900 the Sunday song the other week from saying this to a journalist 395 00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:27,400 you know I could have been Elvis Presley. 396 00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:30,700 Could have been one of the Beatles for the noise they made. 397 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,100 It was just extraordinary. And of course, he put this on 398 00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:36,700 the front of the Sony. Sony said, you know, I'm Elvis 399 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:37,900 in Hungary. Okay. 400 00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:41,900 You know what? I didn't say that but, you know, 401 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:47,000 and he was crazy, just took the roof off, they scream the pace 402 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,600 down and when I eventually did get managed to get them quietly, 403 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,000 say You Rang me, lady to the conver, you know, they I did 404 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,000 leave the stage of once I got into the wings. 405 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,100 I just burst into Is it was just totally overwhelming. 406 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,700 I didn't never felt so much love in one room. 407 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,100 It was just amazing and mad about the show they watching. 408 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,800 It's on every day over there television. 409 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:13,100 Where does this have bit? Like I suppose it's a bit like 410 00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:17,900 the unaccountable popularity of of Norman, Wisdom in Albania. 411 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,100 Yeah, yeah, it's a dog thing, you know. 412 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,100 Yeah. Character was Mabel to char, 413 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,200 obvious really played by Barbara knew, you know, It has been 414 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,900 said, and I think it's probably true to say that the analogy is 415 00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:36,300 that they, you know, they they recognized the two-tier social 416 00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:40,800 structure in within the show, the unfairness of it all because 417 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,200 they spent decades under this, the Communist not, you know? 418 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,600 And when it was really, when they were released from it, you 419 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,100 know, they'd taken you around with all their hearts because 420 00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:53,300 they see in the show. What will happen to them. 421 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,700 Yeah, you know. Wait. 422 00:24:57,900 --> 00:25:00,500 Just amazing get emails from them all the time. 423 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:05,300 It's so lovely, really is good. I just want to quickly run 424 00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:06,900 through because I want to talk to you because it's a comic 425 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:09,200 book, this is a podcast about the goons and we haven't even 426 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,000 mentioned the game yet, but I just, I liked it too. 427 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,400 When I have guests, like yourself on a like to run 428 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,200 through the old CV down just a couple of quick things. 429 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,900 I wanted to discuss that you've been involved with as well. 430 00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:23,500 Kenny Everett television. Show The oh, yes. 431 00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:25,700 That was fun. I did three of those, I think. 432 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:27,700 Yeah. And I'd see you, you would pop 433 00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:30,300 Up and sketches and things. So, yeah. 434 00:25:30,300 --> 00:25:35,600 And I'd be like that's Spike from Idaho and I don't know, I 435 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,700 don't know, I just wasn't expecting you to turn up working 436 00:25:39,700 --> 00:25:42,700 with Kenny Everett for some reason, hold on the weekend 437 00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:45,900 because I work with the rush habits shows, I do as well over 438 00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:47,700 the right thing, but we never got Russ. 439 00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:50,900 Have it in New Zealand. We never got those variety 440 00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:53,200 shows. Kenny Everett was very popular. 441 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,900 Yeah. And he must have been fun to 442 00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:57,700 work with or he was so very funny. 443 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,600 It really was very funny. Mom. 444 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,900 Yeah, you know? So eccentric, but you know, 445 00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:07,500 really professional to be on the ball doing those half hours. 446 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:10,400 He, you know, he would never never off the book of the board. 447 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,000 Never took his eye off the ball. Fantastic and Jeff look at 448 00:26:15,008 --> 00:26:18,500 didn't invite you on to criticize your your work but 449 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:20,600 what were you thinking about run for your wife? 450 00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:22,700 What we thinking of appearing in that film? 451 00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:25,600 Oh no real race. Chums up. 452 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,300 Head in that. See almost everybody. 453 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,600 So proud to be wanted to make this film. 454 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,400 I don't think it was probably the wisest decision in the world 455 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,900 because that's very strongly established piece of theater and 456 00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:40,900 to make a film of it. It's it's it goes down a 457 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:44,500 different route completely but, you know, he did, he wanted to 458 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:48,100 do it and they got it done. But he asked all of his Chums, 459 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:51,000 if they'd be in it and, you know, the bus on the way to the 460 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,100 races is full of people, like Frank Thornton and Donald sinden 461 00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:56,000 either. They just extras, they're not, 462 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,500 they don't speak for them. Pertwee. 463 00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:02,200 And, you know, and I got a part a speaking part as a reporter. 464 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,600 So I actually got a, you know, a proper a proper Minnie Minnie, 465 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:10,600 Minnie fee for that killer chubs got over a bottle of pins and a 466 00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:13,300 box of chocolates. You know it's a thank you but 467 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,700 Reve social but none of his Chums said no to that they all 468 00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:22,200 appeared in it for it. Yeah it was actually the last 469 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,300 appearance of Richard briers ever made as well. 470 00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:27,100 Hell yes. Yeah yeah the original Goldsmith 471 00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:29,100 in. Most of the West End in not be a 472 00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:34,600 wife in 82 and we were talking before we started recording, we 473 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,500 mentioned, we talked about Dirk, maggs and obviously dirt was 474 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:43,100 based on this show and we we talked for so long, but we 475 00:27:43,108 --> 00:27:48,400 didn't have time to talk about a show a radio show that he was 476 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,800 involved with which I enjoyed inside Sasha. 477 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,000 Oh, yes. Yeah, that was funny written by 478 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,300 Stuart silver. Resubmitting and asks all the 479 00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:01,900 chaps do it solo. I'm saying for years, I don't 480 00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:06,000 even know if she's still writing but he wrote some weird. 481 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,600 Wonderful comedy for that. It was such fun to do, really 482 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,800 was very gain, very good show inspired. 483 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,900 I think that show and sound effects and the voices. 484 00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:19,500 And when you consciously, because there's a few characters 485 00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:23,600 on there that you perform, that we're quite goon ish and there 486 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,200 one character in particular said, sort of shades of major 487 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,900 blood milk. We're going to your conscious He 488 00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:29,900 doing that. It was a mind. 489 00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:33,800 My little, I marched lagoons. And if the character fitted I 490 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,700 used to use it without, you know, I hope clip you sent me 491 00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:39,700 with to establish, whether it was Jeff McKibben and he was, 492 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,600 there's me in the background doing a blood knot shriek oh, 493 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:55,900 there he is. Is it nicely? 494 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,000 Get us onto the subject. At hand you'd have been about 495 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,500 four when the goons well the first series which was called 496 00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:08,000 crazy, people was broadcast. So what's your history with with 497 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,500 the show itself? In terms of listening to, it was 498 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:14,200 never allowed to listen to the Goon show on the wireless 499 00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:16,500 because my mom and dad didn't understand it. 500 00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:18,500 They thought it was rubbish because they didn't understand 501 00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:22,700 it off their wavelength all together and I didn't come to 502 00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:26,400 the Goon show until after Peter died in 1980. 503 00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:29,800 No. I came to the gun show quite by 504 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,900 accident by buying a little box set of cassettes, which were all 505 00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:38,100 sellers at the beep. Yeah, under two of the cassettes 506 00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:40,700 included with the were three. Goon shows all together. 507 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:45,400 The man, the man who never was. I can't remember what the others 508 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,100 were, but it's introduced me to the gun show as a show and I was 509 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:54,100 totally at literally instantly hooked because I've got all the 510 00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:57,100 records, you know, but Bob knocks rock and roll call blues 511 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,800 and I'm walking backwards for Christmas. 512 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,700 I got all the singles back in the 60s when they, when they 513 00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:06,100 came out. But other so I sort of knew what 514 00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:11,300 the voices were like, but I don't never had for a gun show 515 00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:14,300 until that after Peter's death. So, I came to the government 516 00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:17,000 started to collect them avidly. And I've got every Guru show 517 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,900 ever ever published now on Big C, D. 518 00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:24,800 Thanks to the BBC. But, you know, I just became a 519 00:30:24,808 --> 00:30:28,200 total addict straight away. It's hard for you being in The 520 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,100 profession, and it's a comedy. And being the age you were to 521 00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:33,100 have come so late to the actual goon show. 522 00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:35,900 So you don't even see the will hear the last goon show of all 523 00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:37,900 in the early 70s. I guess I've got that. 524 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,700 I've got that on video, you didn't say that when it was when 525 00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:45,800 it was broadcast originally. Well, no I didn't I didn't know 526 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:52,000 because again it was not in my brief it wasn't part of my life 527 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:56,200 but I said assume picked it up and soon found it and I've got 528 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,000 it on video now and I should keep it forever. 529 00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:01,900 Did you did you were you a fan of Peter Sellers films? 530 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,300 Oh, absolutely. All over was was I would have 531 00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:06,500 been a great admirer of Peter Sellers. 532 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,700 I first heard him on the radio when he was doing things like 533 00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:13,200 razor laugh with Ted Ray, you know, and all the funny voices 534 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,000 used to do. I'm right with Kenneth corner. 535 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,000 And he, you know, when he was very, very much aware of 536 00:31:18,008 --> 00:31:20,700 preachers, I'll see you even had to listen to raise a laugh and 537 00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:22,200 not the future. Oh, that's right. 538 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,400 No, but there are some of the hardest time with the beat was 539 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:27,400 in the oven. You know, they couldn't stop me 540 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,800 those things. Another good shows as long as 541 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,200 the evenings and it was something that they didn't care 542 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,200 about at all. Muzzin who's been a big admirer 543 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,000 of Peter Sellers comedy work, you know, the eccentric nests as 544 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,400 we say of all the characters that he could play in a week 545 00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:48,400 vocal gymnastics that he used to trot out strawberry and a very 546 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,100 fine actor. Yes, indeed, not just a comic 547 00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:54,500 actor, but an actor in general, I think he was at his best when 548 00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:59,800 he was performing, you know, because the Peter Those, you 549 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:06,500 know, in real life was a little bit Bland and well, I've come to 550 00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:08,300 the door unimpressive. Yeah. 551 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,700 You look at some of the Michael Parkinson interviews that he did 552 00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:16,800 and he did several when somebody else is talking, he's listening 553 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,100 and you can see it almost goes into another dimension. 554 00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:24,700 He's he's sort of stops and turns off when he sits up in a, 555 00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:27,400 you know, he perks up and he starts doing funny voices. 556 00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:30,700 No, that's that's the performer, that's the artist. 557 00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:33,100 That's the cover Bella. You know, that at all the 558 00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:36,600 brilliant performing work but the real Peter Sellers a little 559 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,100 bit of the blank side. I think what he needed. 560 00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:42,700 He needed on chat shows he needed a crutch he needed 561 00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:44,900 something. He could rely on material a bit 562 00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:48,300 that he could rely on. Yes, it warm warm himself up if 563 00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:51,700 you like and so that was why for that for a period in the 70s 564 00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:55,100 icon Parkinson? He would he would enter wearing 565 00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:59,100 the German army helmet and doing that bit from the Since the show 566 00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:00,400 gift for the producers. Really? 567 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,700 Because it was tried and tested material, which you would get a 568 00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:03,800 laugh. That's right. 569 00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:06,800 That's exactly it. He even has a lien on things 570 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,000 like that as a crutch. Yeah. 571 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,800 Did you ever meet Spike professional? 572 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,000 I met Spike once but I caught him on a bad day. 573 00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:19,900 Ah, I'm so stay I'll tell you exactly what happened when I was 574 00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:24,100 at a charity lunch for a build children's charity, I think, was 575 00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:29,100 at the Dorchester hotel in London and I was in the lobby 576 00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:31,800 before the event actually started and I saw a spike 577 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,500 walking across the lobby and I thought, oh, there he is, there 578 00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:37,500 Spike Milligan. I better go and show him a 579 00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:39,500 better school and say, hello and shake his head. 580 00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:42,900 And I might never get another chance because it was not, you 581 00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:47,000 know, quite late early in his life and I think I did the wrong 582 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,400 thing. I've stepped in front of him and 583 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,900 stopped him Riley. He started back and looked at me 584 00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:57,500 as if who is this with a stopover in my space, you know. 585 00:33:57,500 --> 00:34:01,100 And I thought Maybe I'll go to on a bad day, but I think I've 586 00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:03,300 learned, since from there, I could be listening to do work on 587 00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:08,000 your show. 30, you know, if you stop spiking, got it, got in his 588 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,699 way through his rhythm, which I did what it was all for. 589 00:34:13,699 --> 00:34:17,300 I just look shook his hand, he shook my hand blessed, and I was 590 00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:20,900 just said, I just wanted to say, I'm an admirer. 591 00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:23,900 I was tongue-tied because he you know, I could see he was in 592 00:34:23,900 --> 00:34:28,500 shock and I stopped him. And I said, I just wanted to See 593 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:35,000 how much a big fan I am of yours and and I know I said something 594 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,900 rather stupid. I said, actually I played a 595 00:34:37,908 --> 00:34:43,800 character called spike in a sit for a few years and he looked at 596 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,000 me and was a pause. And he said how very interesting 597 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,000 here. Oh, dear. 598 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,100 Anyway, I said, I just wanted to tell you how much a big fan of 599 00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:55,500 yours. I am and particularly of the 600 00:34:55,500 --> 00:35:01,400 Goon show, I love the Goon show and he You must be very old 601 00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:06,900 loser here. I think I'd better go and I do I 602 00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:10,200 just left him to it and he couldn't let you know. 603 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,100 I got stopped if I've gotten his way. 604 00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:15,400 I think I'm ready for that and I just, oh good. 605 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,400 I'm glad our messy. Absolutely absolutely. 606 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,900 Did you ever meet Harry or Mike and Tina? 607 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,700 I knew. Hurry. 608 00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:25,700 Socially more from charity. Do is again because he knew me 609 00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:27,900 from Riding High, you know he called me Jeffrey. 610 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,000 Are we recording Harry? And I said I was I was in the 611 00:35:32,008 --> 00:35:35,000 car listening to you just now? Didn't they do the Goon show 612 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,700 going to keep the gun shows in the car, you know, on cassette 613 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,700 and I used to measure Journeys in a midi gun shows it took to 614 00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:46,700 get from A to B that's a five that's a five good show Journey 615 00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:51,100 that what you know Harry was lovely. 616 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,100 He was such a nice man. Could you tell us where to 617 00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:56,100 begin? Lighter lips? 618 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,800 Yes. Number 18, a Gallows lane 18, a 619 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,200 Gallows Lane. Thank you friend. 620 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:41,200 Is this a teenagers Lane it is. So then you get this. 621 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:45,200 What do you get a phone call in early 2001 from I'm getting 622 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,700 dirt. Yeah, to suggesting this 623 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,800 restaging of some older goon show scripts, that relates the 624 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,900 50th anniversary of the show. That's right. 625 00:36:54,900 --> 00:37:00,700 We want to do get this tribute on for 2001 as a 50th 626 00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:04,400 anniversary in and Jim were he told you said don't muck it up 627 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,300 except he didn't use the word Mock, and we did. 628 00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:12,700 And we had a wonderful wonderful time because Dirk made me quite 629 00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:15,100 well from inside. Saturated from. 630 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,200 The Russ Abbott shows again. We could we did a whole radio 631 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,400 series, awesome directed those. So he knew what I could do and 632 00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:27,100 when I was more than more than happy, I couldn't believe my 633 00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:30,100 luck actually that I was going to get into a good show and play 634 00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:33,800 Old Peter Sellers voices which, you know, some better than 635 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,200 others. I have to be honest, you know, 636 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,500 you didn't get a really good blue bottle from me. 637 00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:44,800 I think you've got a pretty good blood doc, that's a right blue 638 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,100 bottle. Such a To nail it, such a 639 00:37:47,107 --> 00:37:52,800 distinctive voice and very, I mean, Prince Charles, does it 640 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,300 makes it pretty decent, festively doesn't lie. 641 00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:58,200 I see that built piece of film where he's pretending to be a 642 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,700 little fella. And it's really, really cover is 643 00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:04,800 really, really good. Blood blue bottle, this lovely. 644 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,000 Yeah, I want to say when I first heard what became, what was 645 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,300 going again? What it became known as goon 646 00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:12,200 again. Yeah. 647 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:19,800 And it does take a few minutes. To acclimatize to it if you like 648 00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:24,400 like, for example, I read listen to it ahead of my conversation 649 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,300 with Dirk and it took me a little while to forget if you 650 00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:30,000 like that. It that it was that. 651 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,900 It wasn't you, 300. Yeah, guys doing it and just 652 00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:39,100 enjoy it for what it was and it's extremely 653 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,800 well-put-together, a well-performed and it's funny I 654 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,400 needed to is brilliantly edited, you know? 655 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,500 So Beverly put together that warm up, you know, the musical, 656 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:55,400 the musical intro, where we all sing and all that was just 657 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,900 intended to be a warm-up for us and for the audience wasn't 658 00:38:58,900 --> 00:39:02,800 intended to be part of the show but it went down so well, Dirk 659 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,100 was so pleased with it. He left it in as part of the 660 00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:07,900 part of the show, where whole thing went off, you know, 661 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,500 brilliantly and got everyone off to a good start and then we went 662 00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:13,600 into the show proper, you know, the half an hour talking and 663 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,000 Wonderful. Having real railing to some 664 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,400 lumps there. Yes. 665 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,600 To one of his dad's songs. Exactly. 666 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,900 Like, right exactly like it was wonderful. 667 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,400 It's open when this was suggested to you by deque, did 668 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,100 you have any doubts that you take time to think about it? 669 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,300 Statues arm off, I was absolutely thrilled with the 670 00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:35,800 idea. I couldn't wait what? 671 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,600 A great thing to do to be able to do a good show and it was one 672 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,400 of the happiest evenings I've ever spent in a theater in my 673 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,900 life. Yeah Wilson Orchestra there you 674 00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:50,000 know how big John Wilson's become now the promise. - yeah. 675 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,300 You know he was just on his way up then and he was a dirk said, 676 00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:55,900 Angela Moore. We suggested him because he knew 677 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,600 that angel more, we knew John Wilson, that's right. 678 00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:04,200 And he was absolutely brilliant and Dirk had to say, how many 679 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,400 bikes do we need? Has 17 piece Orchestra. 680 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,900 How many Mikes are we going to need? 681 00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:13,400 And John said, oh no. Only for not what we thought it 682 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,400 through yet. What are self-balancing 683 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,300 Orchestra, we listen to each other and we don't overlap. 684 00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:22,000 We don't overplay and he's absolutely right. 685 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,700 And he needed for Mike's one of which was on the drum kit but 686 00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:29,600 the rest are on one of the brass one on the woodwind. 687 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,400 And you know it was just extraordinary that using the 688 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,200 original dots which it was a great story that they're telling 689 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,500 about how they got the music from The Archives and reprinted 690 00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:43,200 it. Yeah it was it was a pretty poor 691 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,500 State, wasn't it? Oh yeah, editions. 692 00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:51,800 So, what was your process for? How does sound slightly lovasz 693 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,100 here? But what was your process for? 694 00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:55,500 Finding the characters or having the ball? 695 00:40:55,900 --> 00:40:59,400 I knew the Wahlberg before I even started doing the voices 696 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,700 for years, just for the hell of it, you know just for fun. 697 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,800 So I was doing henrique wrong and blood nor computable 698 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,000 different fun for myself. All those years ago, blue, what 699 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,900 was a bit of a struggle? But it's what I'm sort of gave 700 00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:14,900 the impression of a blue bottle. Blue Duck bottle. 701 00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:20,900 Not come that line about David Beckham's was over funny coming 702 00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:22,900 on that. Yeah, I'm Brian Lehrer person 703 00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:26,100 who script editor the whole thing, they added that in one or 704 00:41:26,107 --> 00:41:28,900 two little lines Beckham being upset. 705 00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:33,000 He wasn't asked to play Blue Bottle be perfect. 706 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,700 John Glover was excellent as well. 707 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,700 Yes, you want to do jobs. Timing is fantastic. 708 00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:40,600 Don't love his timing was amazing. 709 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,800 These are right in the middle of the sea, were we? 710 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,900 We forget about Eccles and in the middle of a scene, John 711 00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:49,500 Glover, just chipped in and said, I'm still up here. 712 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,200 We'd forgotten that Reckless was because after the Persian and 713 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,400 what is it? Look out there far, we gotta 714 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,200 close this, how you in it, right? 715 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,300 And it might come down here. We'll go. 716 00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:10,600 Why didn't you climb down? The rigging is not for me to 717 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:16,000 reason why he's for me. Me to do wonder what's the word 718 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:22,300 on mean? He's not for me to reason why it 719 00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:30,700 is for me to do it. Well, he didn't say it, but he 720 00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:34,500 done it. Pretty good little baby. 721 00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:37,700 Love God, forgive each other. I've done a lot of radio with 722 00:42:37,700 --> 00:42:39,100 John is great. Great pal. 723 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,300 And Andrew seekin. What was it? 724 00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:43,100 That was, what was on it working with him. 725 00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:45,100 So do you know what the end of the show? 726 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,800 I thought what's the matter with him is is a little bit low key 727 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,100 but at the end of the show in the dressing room, he wrapped 728 00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:55,800 his arms around his wife and burst into tears, and I didn't 729 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,300 realize that Harry was so ill. Ill at that time, it was in the 730 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,000 days after that, he died. And, and he knew that. 731 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,900 And he'd been told, you know, by, as Dirk told you. 732 00:43:05,908 --> 00:43:08,700 He said, he'd think of it as taking over the family business, 733 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,000 you know, when you've been asked to play, some have met she did 734 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,700 and he did it so well, he did, which was a tribute voice to his 735 00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:21,300 dad, that he would choke choked him all the evening all the way 736 00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:23,500 through it. He was, he was emotionally quite 737 00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:27,400 restrained because of, but he got through it and it's love. 738 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,500 What he done does with Ned tribute to his dad looks lovely. 739 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,000 What sort of reaction digit. Did you get a lot of reaction 740 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,400 from people after the show went out? 741 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,500 Oh well, my favorite reaction was in the in the bar afterwards 742 00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:45,700 when we all went and had a drink and there was a lot of celebs in 743 00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:48,900 the audience, Barry Cryer being one of them, I'm Barry kriger 744 00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:51,700 came up to be following it absolutely full of it. 745 00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:55,000 So he just looked at me straight in the eye and he said that was 746 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,800 spot on. He said, spot on on. 747 00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:01,400 So I mean that was my favorite reaction to the whole the whole 748 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,300 event. You know. 749 00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:05,600 He's praise from Caesar indeed indeed. 750 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,900 Absolutely. And you can get you know High 751 00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:11,300 Praise than that bro. Yeah would you have been up for 752 00:44:11,300 --> 00:44:14,800 doing more of those? Oh I wanted to you know Dirk 753 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,200 struggled for years to try and get the show on the road to try 754 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,300 and get a version of it on the road as do it. 755 00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:24,800 We could do a tour but he had to have the live music and because 756 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,300 that's a very expensive business. 757 00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:28,900 Yeah. And Did we just didn't work out 758 00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:33,300 and normal normal Farms of spikes manager, who sort of owns 759 00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:37,600 the gun show, not in the way a bit was a bit obstructive. 760 00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:40,500 So we were never able to take it out on the road. 761 00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:44,700 But don't just said, let's just remember that wonderful night in 762 00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:48,400 the theater at the playhouse and think how lucky we were to have 763 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,500 gotten done that. So, I just take that on board 764 00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:55,000 and just wallow in that have got it. 765 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,000 We did it, and it's there to listen to, and when If we want 766 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,600 to, it's amazing. How because it's now 21 years 767 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:10,100 since since that occurred here but and I know this podcast has 768 00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:14,600 been going now for just over a year and it's amazing. 769 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,300 How many people are out there who still have a real affection 770 00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:25,300 for the Goon show and for and for particularly, for someone's 771 00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:26,800 and Milligan. Let's be honest. 772 00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:30,800 Let's be fair. But how many people of, you 773 00:45:30,808 --> 00:45:32,600 know, younger younger Generations? 774 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,500 If you like recent guest was a young lady in her mid-20s, okay? 775 00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:41,100 I've had, I've had a lot of guests who are in their 40s or 776 00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:43,000 30s. Well, I figure if I could draw 777 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,300 an analogy there with hi-dee-hi bloody bus essential thing going 778 00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:51,000 on because I'm getting fan mail from people that weren't born 779 00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:54,100 when we were making Heidi high, and it is the same things 780 00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:57,400 happening to the good show, he sees its Timeless timeless. 781 00:45:57,500 --> 00:46:02,300 This comedy was still very very funny and it will always make 782 00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:04,500 people laugh. And if you find it, you know, 783 00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:06,200 young people coming to the Goon show. 784 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,100 I think it's a wonderful thing because I'm getting fan mail now 785 00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:14,100 from kids, and we did a hi-dee-hi event a few months ago 786 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,000 and was a little girl, there was six years old. 787 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,300 She was there with her mum and my mum's, a huge fan, but among 788 00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:23,100 wasn't born when we were making Heidi. 789 00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:27,000 Hi, but should this little girl called Tia and she was a tiny 790 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,800 little thing. She knew shoot her mom says she 791 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,800 knows every word of every script of hi-dee-hi and she's up small 792 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,200 and that young. So, you know, that says a lot 793 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,000 about the quality of good, good comedy. 794 00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:40,800 And it's the same with the good show. 795 00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:45,100 You know, people are coming to it as a young people now picking 796 00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,300 up and they it's just says, Lee says it all about the quality of 797 00:46:48,300 --> 00:46:51,800 it, you know, and why not, let's keep it alive. 798 00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:55,400 Well, that is I mean that's heartwarming that the show is 799 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,800 still, the hi-dee-hi is still. Well, it's still finding new 800 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,600 generations about the Goon show. The Goon show is doing the same 801 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,700 thing. Yeah. 802 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:10,500 Abso what we mentioned we're on Hardy earlier now you've been, 803 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,100 you've heard this one man show. Stan, Laurel show you, you still 804 00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:18,500 doing that at the moment or well, I guess I'll go over it 805 00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:24,200 later, on, in the year, October November to pick up on, but yes, 806 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,500 it's an ongoing thing for me as long as Still walking, still, 807 00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:32,800 breathe and talk. This is something I wanted to do 808 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,400 for a long, long time. And I had to wait until I was 809 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,600 the right age. Yeah, I got the idea back in the 810 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,700 70s when Laurel and Hardy would being shown on TV, again, early 811 00:47:43,700 --> 00:47:47,400 evening by the BBC, the by my love for that which we've been, 812 00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:50,000 you know, since I was a very small boy watching them, a happy 813 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,400 morning. Picture shows my love for them 814 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,300 was rekindled at that time. And I thought, well it would be 815 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,400 Wonderful idea to do a one-man show about Stan, Laurel because 816 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,800 I knew all about his life and the story of his life and it was 817 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,100 a fascinating tale to tell, but I knew I had to wait because I 818 00:48:07,107 --> 00:48:09,700 was only a man then he can't do a life story and you haven't 819 00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:13,900 done a life, you know. So I literally waited over 40 820 00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:17,900 years to get that show on and it all fell into place at exactly 821 00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:21,300 the right time and he should and I've been doing it for 10 years 822 00:48:21,300 --> 00:48:23,200 now and next year will be 10 years. 823 00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:27,300 What is that does that story about Peter Sellers? 824 00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:30,300 To Stan Laurel. Oh yeah in Hollywood. 825 00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:34,400 Yes he Runnin called on him and I'm trying to think of remember 826 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,500 the details but essentially salad. 827 00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:44,200 So Stan Laurel was quite old Elder elderly this point and I 828 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,900 guess his memory was a he was maybe you know not as sharp as 829 00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:55,700 he had been and sellers was tactfully you know, talking 830 00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:58,200 about the old films and Yeah, just of it. 831 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,500 And then I think, sellers couldn't remember the name of a 832 00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:08,200 supporting actor who often appeared in the lower, one Hardy 833 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:12,500 films, okay? Not something James finless and 834 00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:15,400 not him. But someone else who Charlie 835 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,500 Hall possibly, I can't remember myself who it was, but check the 836 00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:22,300 sellers was trying to remember the name of of this. 837 00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:25,800 This actor, that would regularly appear in the Laurel and Hardy 838 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,300 your shorts in the And they said to Stan Laurel, he said, who's 839 00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:32,700 that guy who's that? Who's that actor? 840 00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:37,700 That used to used to repair in your films? 841 00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:41,600 Can't remember? Is they really funny rather 842 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:46,000 large? Fella and Stan Laurel sort of 843 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,100 thought from it anyway. Oh, do you mean Oliver Hardy? 844 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:59,600 I think he meant tiny Sanford kudos for what a big failure. 845 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:07,000 So, apart from that if you were doing a involved with a podcast 846 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,200 series bar me Dale. Yes. 847 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,500 Oh that's great fun. That is great fun. 848 00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:13,100 We ever gonna get to play the vicar and Jude. 849 00:50:13,300 --> 00:50:15,300 Don't know if she plays the Vicar's wife in it as well. 850 00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:18,900 So we do some live shows of that a bit later in the year. 851 00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:21,200 Okay. Yeah. 852 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:26,900 The but for not Center we doing recording in front of a live 853 00:50:26,900 --> 00:50:29,600 audience like they used to do with radio shows, you don't. 854 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:35,500 Absolutely I'm saying, podcasts are the future and see any. 855 00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:38,900 Any other plans, any any other work in the pipeline or we're 856 00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:41,600 doing that? We're in the middle of the tour 857 00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:43,100 which we were picking up again in. 858 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,500 Member called The Best of British TV, comedy, and Judy and 859 00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:52,400 myself, and Sue Hodge from a lower low or in that, it's like 860 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,800 a chat show really Debbie HUD Roy. 861 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,900 Hobbs Widow, she's chairing it. And she is asking the questions 862 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,500 we've got me and Judi because Judas had an awful lot of TV 863 00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:07,300 comedy and Roger course doing a musical stuff and everything. 864 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,900 And a lady called April Walker, who people won't know her her 865 00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:12,900 name is Katie. Hi. 866 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,300 No, no, no, no, no. That was lured into Regan 867 00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:18,500 playing April. Now this is a lady called called 868 00:51:18,500 --> 00:51:21,900 A for Walker. Who is my age actually and she's 869 00:51:21,900 --> 00:51:25,200 been in every sitcom you could ever imagine, you know, Fawlty 870 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,000 Towers and to to Ronnie issue that I work with. 871 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,500 And she got stories to tell really, it's all about the 872 00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:33,600 people we worked with and telling stories about all the 873 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,700 comedy. We've been beating it. 874 00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:37,100 Basically, that's what the shows about. 875 00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:40,300 So we're doing a few more of those in september/october as 876 00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:41,800 well. Oh great. 877 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,800 So that'll be fun. I'm Trying to just trying to his 878 00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:49,000 name rings a bell and I'm just trying to bring up the April. 879 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:49,900 Yes. Right. 880 00:51:49,900 --> 00:51:51,900 April Walker was in that episode of foggy. 881 00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:53,200 Towers. That's right. 882 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,300 With the boyfriend, not married, buzzle tries to put them in 883 00:51:57,300 --> 00:52:00,100 separate room, that's right. And if they end her, her 884 00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:03,000 boyfriend is the chap from the fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin 885 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:08,200 who always used to say great. Listen, Jeff. 886 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,000 I've taken up too much of your time. 887 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,700 It's been, it's been a joy. Thank you for meeting me. 888 00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:15,400 So much for taking the time to speak to me today. 889 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,500 You want to because it is a tribute to this conversation. 890 00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:20,800 Play Bud. Knocks entrance from goon again 891 00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:23,100 because that was my favorite moment of the whole evening 892 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,900 doing blood, knocks entrance, I will do that. 893 00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:28,400 I will, and I do I put clips and everything. 894 00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:30,400 I will put that at the beginning. 895 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,600 Thanks again to Jeff. Thank you for listening. 896 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,800 Please rate review. Subscribe! 897 00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:38,800 Go back and listen to all the old shows in the archive. 898 00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:42,100 If you haven't heard them, please, spread the word 899 00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:45,400 recommend to Two friends. Anyone who likes old British 900 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,100 comedy. This is the show for them. 901 00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:51,000 Just a quick word about the Goon show preservation society, which 902 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,500 I haven't mentioned for some time. 903 00:52:53,500 --> 00:52:56,300 Actually, please do join. If you haven't already become a 904 00:52:56,300 --> 00:53:01,900 member, you get access to the mighty encyclopedia gonna kiss, 905 00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:04,300 also, their quarterly newsletters. 906 00:53:04,700 --> 00:53:09,300 There's also a brand new website due to be launched in the next 907 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,100 month. I think Duncan Gray has been 908 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,500 Putting together building a brand new fresh looking 909 00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:21,900 state-of-the-art 21st century website for the dsps. 910 00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:25,700 I've actually had a chance to have a look at some of it and 911 00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:27,500 what's really good, what I've seen so far. 912 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,600 So I will keep you updated. On the progress of that, it 913 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,400 might even be up and running. By the time this show goes out, 914 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,000 so more information can be found. 915 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,200 If you follow the gunship preservation Society, Twitter 916 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:46,900 feed their, at the Asps. And, in the meantime, I will bid 917 00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:51,600 you adieu and see you next week, with a brand new show, take care 918 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:52,700 of yourselves by