1 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,880 Heidi, hi. Ho de ho. 2 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,360 Ho de ho. Or should I say hello hello or? 3 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:49,280 Maybe may talk calling. Maybe I should say sorry. 4 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,600 Language, Taylor. Welcome Welcome to Goon Pods 5 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,200 countdown of listeners Top 20 British sitcoms of all time as 6 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,560 voted for by you. I asked listeners to vote for 7 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,760 their favourites and you didn't disappoint, which is unusual 8 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,760 because you often do disappoint. Had a really good response. 9 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,880 People sent in their top three British sitcoms of all time. 10 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,320 I put them all together in a big list and we have the top 20 11 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,240 which we are going to run through with my two special 12 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,000 guests, former guests as well of Goon Pod and Friends of the Pod, 13 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,600 Donnie Rees and Chris Diamond. Hello. 14 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,760 Hello, now, both of you Now I spoke to you most recently Chris 15 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,120 talking about heroes of comedy, which was which was fab and and 16 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,360 Donna, I think it was the Irene Handel episode wasn't. 17 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,600 It Yeah, it was. Yeah. 18 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,720 My, my obsession with Irene. Yeah, we we spoke about that. 19 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,880 Such a joy talking about Irene Handel. 20 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,680 Yeah, hang on, was Metal Mickey classed as a sitcom? 21 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,840 I think, yeah, I think so, yeah. It was a situation and 22 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,240 technically a comedy. Yeah. 23 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,160 Yes, so as I say, we we are, we're going to run through the 24 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,840 the top 20 favorite British sitcoms of all time. 25 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,680 And I'm also going to draw some comparisons and and look back at 26 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:19,760 the BBC Britain's best sitcom poll that they did about 21 27 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,000 years ago, believe it or not, and. 28 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,280 That long ago. Yeah, I've looked at the the top 29 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,520 20 and I've compared it to my top 20. 30 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,440 There's some crossovers, there's some strange omissions which we 31 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,160 will come to. But Chris, have you got any, any 32 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,720 early predictions because you obviously don't know this. 33 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:39,920 No, I don't know what, I don't know what the list is. 34 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:43,320 I mean, I'm guessing that a porridge will be in there. 35 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,840 I mean, if it was 21 years ago, then it would certainly be on 36 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,680 the folks and the horses would be way up at the top. 37 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:55,800 I think from memory that also had things like you, yes, 38 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,600 Minister slash Prime Minister, didn't that series come along 39 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,640 with like a a person, a personality making a case for 40 00:03:03,640 --> 00:03:05,160 each of the. Yeah, I did. 41 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,320 So I mean, but Lena Henry did bottom, and I don't know where 42 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,400 that landed in it. But yeah, I mean, changing 43 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,240 tastes are going to be affected. And I think probably nostalgia's 44 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,320 got a heavier influence now than it did 21 years ago, because 45 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,480 sitcoms are kind of a done thing, though. 46 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,360 Well, also you have to factor in that it's goon potlessness that 47 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:30,320 so that it is going to have a certain a certain. 48 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,600 Bent. Tilt if I could just bump to it 49 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:37,760 yes Donna, have you got any any predictions for anything that 50 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,720 should pop up on this list Well, I. 51 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,960 I think one of the young ones, you know, talking about Rick 52 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,760 mail and bottom. I think the young ones might be 53 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,200 quite high up in the top, certainly in the top ten. 54 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:53,360 I imagine 40 towers, of course, is always crops up a, you know, 55 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,360 very high up or number one. I think Hancock's half hour 56 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,280 might be in the top 10 because the listeners are connoisseurs 57 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:07,560 of classic comedy and, as Chris says, porridge and those classic 58 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,000 sitcoms. What will be interesting is just 59 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,360 as before we appeared is, is to see if any of the, if any of the 60 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:21,839 sitcoms that were such huge parts of of the of the schedules 61 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:26,840 for a long time. I've I've managed to process 62 00:04:26,840 --> 00:04:29,160 that. That would be interesting to see 63 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,640 because a lot of them are just completely forgotten now. 64 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:37,040 OK, well, let's crack on. Let's start with #20 And it 65 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,000 surprised me in the sense that to me it doesn't. 66 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,720 I mean, I was never a particularly a fan, but it 67 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,640 didn't really, to me, it doesn't really resonate anymore. 68 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,040 But #20 is spaced. Yeah. 69 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,440 I'm surprised that's not further up, actually. 70 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,480 Yeah. It's again, it's, it's, I think 71 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,600 it's, I think if you had done this poll 10 years ago, it would 72 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,880 have been much further up. Yeah, definitely it has dated, 73 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,000 but you can see why it was such a big hit at the time with all 74 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,200 the cultural references and and all of that. 75 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,800 Yeah. And that was all. 76 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,680 I mean, the the sort of cultural zeitgeist to carry on was very 77 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,080 much of its time. That was, that was what was 78 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,200 happening at the time, you know, making making a sort of 79 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,520 reference to that. In fact, I remember when it must 80 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,680 have been when that was in production. 81 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:33,360 Some of the shadowy Kebab with TV team got an e-mail from Simon 82 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,680 Pegg because they wanted the time. 83 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,160 You couldn't get theme tunes. You know, there wasn't the same 84 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,760 resource that. Yeah, obviously you know that 85 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,080 today was was only the swaddling Nate clothes at the time and 86 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,720 they are and I think it was I think it was the for a clean 87 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,320 version of the It's A Knockout theme from memories what they 88 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,120 were after. And I think somebody sent it to 89 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,960 the somebody said the version they have to them and we never 90 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,440 have them back. All right. 91 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,160 And I don't think they, I don't think they used that either. 92 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:08,160 Yeah. Spill forward a few years and I 93 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,040 had the shop in the West End of Glasgow just as some sort of 94 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,080 small dying T-shirt shop, and Simon Pegg came into the shop 95 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,720 because his wife's from Glasgow. And I put this to him. 96 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,400 You make at least a fucking accent. 97 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,800 And he was, he was black. Affronted, as we see. 98 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,040 But I tell you how different times are I then because they 99 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,360 paid cash for the T-shirts they bought, I could buy some lunch. 100 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,640 And I went down to the cafe, down further down the street and 101 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,640 Simon Pegg and his Mrs. were sitting there having their 102 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,240 coffee. And I had to explain to the 103 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,800 people behind the counter who they were, who he was. 104 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,280 Wow. Because the cost is nobody 105 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:47,960 really didn't be able because because at the time barely 106 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,120 anybody watched Spaced. So I had to say who he was. 107 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:58,120 And they were like, Oh, yeah. Wow, I reckon Simon Pegg and 108 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,680 Nick Frost were probably waiters when I went to Chiquitas in 109 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,120 Willesden on the edge of. Cricklewood when I was a 110 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,400 student, that's. Where they met and they were 111 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,840 waiters in that really. In a branch. 112 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,280 Yeah, yeah. So we used. 113 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,560 To that's, that is a sitcom. Yeah, Yeah. 114 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,640 I was never a huge fan of space. I don't know why. 115 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,920 It sort of would make sense. That would be my sort of thing, 116 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,920 but I was never particularly. No, I like space. 117 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,360 No, it was great and at the time I loved it, but like, like, 118 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,760 don't know, I've rewatched some of it, intended to rewatch all 119 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,000 of it, but I actually got a bit fed up after a while. 120 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,360 Yeah, I did. I did as well, exactly the same. 121 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,080 It was, it's clearly of its time. 122 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,080 And obviously, like Edgar Wright and all these amazing people 123 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,160 were involved that it sort of, you know, sprung forth all these 124 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,160 amazing careers. And so, yeah, I didn't see it at 125 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,440 the time because I thought it was a bit laddie for me. 126 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,720 And then I watched it further down the line and, yeah, it 127 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,480 didn't really connect with me, but I could see, you know, why 128 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,160 people love it so much, especially, you know, guys love 129 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,120 Star Wars, but how extraordinary that, you know, Simon Pegg's, 130 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,800 you know, complete Star Wars obsessive and actually ends up 131 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,280 in Star Wars. It's like, it's like a fever 132 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,320 dream really, isn't it? Yeah, well, it was #66 on the 133 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,040 BBC chart from 2004. So we can then. 134 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,560 Oh. Wasn't wasn't that high up, but 135 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,040 I suppose you know. Again, there's no actually very 136 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,600 many people watched it at the time. 137 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,840 No, yeah. OK, moving on, number 19. 138 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,320 It's the it's the one that Vivian hates. 139 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:43,320 It is the good life, right Where, where, which I think, and 140 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,200 I don't know how long this has been a thing, but it seems to me 141 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,480 in recent years that there's been there's been a sort of 142 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,520 revisionist look back at the good life and Tom Good is now 143 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:58,800 considered a monster. Why is Barbara with him such a 144 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,680 freak? Yeah, he seems very, very, very 145 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:04,960 selfish, doesn't he? And. 146 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,480 See what when I was watching it as a kid and I really enjoyed it 147 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,160 as a kid. I haven't really I haven't 148 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,400 really gone back and watched it as an adult to be to be honest. 149 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,480 But I Tom was the funny 1 Tom. I love Tom and I thought that 150 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,720 Jerry was dull. But as a, as a kid you would do 151 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:30,000 because Jerry and Margo are, are very parental, whereas whereas 152 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,920 for kids, Tom and Barbara seem quite fun and they're up to all 153 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,040 sorts of high jinks and all that sort of thing. 154 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,880 I think it's, it's interesting that it's, it was so it 155 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,160 persisted for so long, but it's probably fallen away a lot now 156 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,880 because it's, it's too detached from reality, though, because I 157 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,120 would think that not only Tom and Barbara would not be able to 158 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,960 do what they do. I mean, they couldn't do it 159 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,280 then, but I mean, there's no possibility they could do it 160 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,200 now. But the idea that even somebody 161 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,720 like Jerry and Margo would be able to own the house is also a 162 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:08,320 total fan to say successfully say maybe he still only works as 163 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,600 an advertising executive. You'd have to be a merchant 164 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,040 banker to own a house like that now. 165 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,480 It's, it's just occurred to me, it's, it's the, it's the goodies 166 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,240 effect. I think in the sense that when 167 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,480 we were kids, we all thought that Bill was the the best. 168 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:24,480 Yeah. And it's. 169 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,080 And it's not till you get older and you grow up and you realise 170 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,400 actually, no, it was Graham. Graham Graham is the best 171 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,120 goodie. By a country. 172 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,520 Yeah, Graham embodies the spirit of the Goodies so well, doesn't 173 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,840 he? Yeah, the irony probably is that 174 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,320 as you get older you realize what a pain in the arse Bill was 175 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:49,240 this like reflecting life? Oh gosh. 176 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,480 But going back to good life, the the Christmas special I think is 177 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,080 brilliant when all the underlying sexual tension 178 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,960 between the two couples kind of spills over when they're a bit 179 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:01,600 drunk. I think that's. 180 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,160 Good. I think it's one of those shows 181 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,200 as well that's that's massively heightened just because the 182 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,880 people involved in it are so good. 183 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,640 You know, the the the the quality of the of the acting is 184 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:16,120 is superb and it heightens was actually a pretty thin plot. 185 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,840 There's a really nice story of Richard Bryer's tales about or 186 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,400 it was a Polly. No, it was Paul Addington 187 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,000 actually, and that incredible face to face. 188 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,600 He did when he was when he was. Dying. 189 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,640 Oh yeah. Where he said, yeah, where he 190 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,400 says, you know that Paul Addington says, you know, he was 191 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,960 all the press was coming out for it, and it was all about how 192 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,080 Margo and Jerry were the were the real stars of it. 193 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,800 And he was Paul Addington being so lovely, was terribly worried 194 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,080 about this and thought, oh, you know what we do, you know, 195 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,080 because Richard Bryer's for us to get all the stars. 196 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,040 I came into the rehearsals, probably, probably made avail, 197 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,280 it's always a dusty room and made avail and said, you know, 198 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,440 have you seen all this paper? And Richard Bryer said, well, 199 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,200 that's, that's fine. You get the stardom, we get the 200 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,920 money, we get the billing and the money. 201 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,440 That's OK. So and they obviously enjoyed 202 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,400 making all this stuff. All this stuff counts. 203 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,520 But in terms of an actual sitcom, you know, like a 204 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,320 situation comedy where you're extracting the comedy from the 205 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:20,200 situation, it's pretty thin as a premise because how much can you 206 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,680 actually do with it? You know, how much can you do 207 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:26,440 with people trying to be, you know, live a subsistence life 208 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,080 and in this in suburbia? And that's why, of course, it 209 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,200 has to end up with Margo and Jerry being being the stars, 210 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,560 because they're actually in the real world. 211 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,880 Yeah. Adam Leslie, former guest he 212 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,600 this was one of his favourites and he said he said perhaps it's 213 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,760 it's biggest achievement is making the pair of wealthy Tory 214 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,560 snobs who live next door genuinely warm and likeable 215 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:54,120 people. Yeah, yeah, great actors bring 216 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:59,280 something extra to a script. And those four actors just 217 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,640 brought so much extra to to the script. 218 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,320 And Richard Breyer's skill as an actor is probably why for so 219 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,720 many years everybody thought his character was was what's so 220 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,760 wonderful, you know, instead of being quite selfish. 221 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Yeah, it's hard to believe that it would work so well with a 222 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,320 different cast. I, I and, and you know, Jerry's 223 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,960 seems terribly vulnerable and under the thumb of, yeah, of 224 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,160 Margot, but Margot doesn't seem terribly happy either. 225 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,600 No. And, and and in that way is very 226 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:34,000 jealous of of Barbara who is enjoying her life. 227 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,160 All right #18 you have to keep moving things along and this is 228 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,840 one that I hold my hand up to say I haven't really watched and 229 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,400 I don't know why, but it is Black Books. 230 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,200 Right. I'm surprised I like black 231 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,680 books. I don't like black books. 232 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:57,040 Surprises say it made it, though, because again, it wasn't 233 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,360 another massive hit at the time. But it's one of those things 234 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:05,040 that sort of hangs around that's a bit pejorative. 235 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:10,480 But because this, as I said, called the setup is quite sort 236 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,560 of timeless, even though it involves book shops. 237 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,520 But then, But then Black Books, the bookshop was never supposed 238 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:19,800 to be a sort of real a realistic bookshop. 239 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,480 Goliath Books next door. What's the realistic bookshop? 240 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,880 It's like a a kind of surreal, dysfunctional family, isn't it? 241 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,120 You've got the mother, a father and the sort of idiot son in a 242 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,320 way. And it's a great vehicle for 243 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,720 Dylan Moran's comedy, I think. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it 244 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:41,400 sounds very, it sounds very like his comedy, the sort of stuff 245 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,480 that he comes, that Bernard comes away with. 246 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,120 Yes. And and and was a proving ground 247 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,120 for I'm giving Simon pigs in it again and a lot of people crop 248 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,440 up in it and they're in there though. 249 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:58,720 I I watched one episode ages ago and it's the one where there's 250 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,880 something to do with an expensive bottle of wine. 251 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,400 Oh yes, yeah. So where was when they go in 252 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,200 house set for a Yeah, that's it, Yeah. 253 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,560 And, and the guy in the fancy house says you can drink any 254 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,640 wine except these 10 bottles, of course, of course money Frank 255 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:24,640 says you could drink nothing, just these 10 bottles, which is 256 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,320 about to prove which the guy is going to present a bottle of to 257 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,360 the pool. I think there's this complicated 258 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:35,080 set up so that the P offers the producing of dummy versus the 259 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,760 wine is like Frankenstein with there's only even a whole set up 260 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,560 with man eating toffee at the start so that his mouth's all 261 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:44,920 all broken, so he's gone. Yes, Ma. 262 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,760 It was #58 on the BBC chart. So. 263 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:58,920 Respectable former guest Roger Language he this was one of his 264 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,200 favourites, he said. It gets all the basics right, 265 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,480 perfect character dynamics, laugh out loud funny, and I 266 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,200 guess it just hit me at the right time. 267 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,200 Watched it again fairly recently and it still holds up. 268 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,080 Yeah. You know, there's another thing 269 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,040 about these kind of secondly, blind book space because they 270 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,080 were in that Friday night Channel Four slot for second. 271 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,440 It was a bit like people who would watch Seinfeld on a on the 272 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:27,320 BBC 2 after news night. And it became a sort of a secret 273 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,840 club. The the you know of you and you 274 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,920 could feel quite smug about the fact that you saw and hardly any 275 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,960 people saw it. That that probably is why also 276 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:46,040 it stays with people a lot. All right, moving on to #17 Now, 277 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,120 personally speaking, I am going to put my cards on the table and 278 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,240 say to me this is the best sitcom featuring David Jason. 279 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,640 So I'm. Just going to say, is it Open 280 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,680 All Hours? It's Open All Hours. 281 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:05,520 There you go. #8 on the BBC chart back in 2004. 282 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,760 Yeah, no, I think that's really interesting that because that 283 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,599 really surprised me. I remember being surprised by 284 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:13,400 that at the time because I had never considered that it was 285 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,480 that big. I thought it was at the time. 286 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,040 I just thought it was one of those sitcoms it was on and I 287 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,560 didn't realise I had such resonance at the time. 288 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,800 And it still has in that that, I mean, I don't know why I'm 289 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,839 surprised because it's it's, it's it's certainly Roy Clark's 290 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:31,880 best sitcoms by a country by Oh, oh God, I. 291 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,160 Yes, there's. So much pathos isn't there, 292 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,680 particularly with Granville's story, you know, of wanting 293 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,160 almost like Billy Lyer, you know, being this dreamer and 294 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,680 wanting to escape and running off with Barbara Flynn's milk 295 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,080 lady or whatever. And I'd never understood in the 296 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,000 reboot why they make Granville art. 297 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,520 Right? Mark 2. 298 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,560 That's why I just. Yeah, he. 299 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,600 Should have been still dreaming about escaping. 300 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:01,720 Totally. And, and it's like it, it just 301 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,480 kind of ruined it. I just thought, wouldn't it be 302 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,280 great to end the whole thing with Barbara Flynn on a milk 303 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,920 float coming to kind of rescue him and take him away? 304 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,360 But the original I think is great. 305 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:15,080 I I actually remember as a kid I had, I was at a performing arts 306 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:20,240 school and I had an audition at BBC, you know, North Acton 307 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,200 rehearsal rooms. And we broke for lunch and I 308 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,360 went in and there was Ronnie Barker and Linda Baron on one 309 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:29,800 table, Paul Daniels in his wig on another table. 310 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,160 And I was queuing to get lunch and I heard this really familiar 311 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,520 voice behind me going, oh, is it chips again on the menu? 312 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,440 Is it? I turn around. 313 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,200 It was David Jason. And I was completely starstruck. 314 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:44,240 And you mentioned, of course, which I contend is the the 315 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,600 sexiest woman who ever appeared on British television, which is 316 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,280 Linda Baron. No, Linda. 317 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,720 Baron. Oh, just unbelievably attractive 318 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,800 woman. Yeah, yeah, she was. 319 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,000 She was a stunning actor. Yeah, I, I, Oh. 320 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:00,880 Would she have turned you, Chris? 321 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,240 Oh, absolutely, the persons, you know, out of or just an 322 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,440 incredible just I know, I mean gushing a bit, but she's such A 323 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,440 to to be able to hold her own and amongst that cast, I think 324 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,560 is incredible. I know. 325 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,440 And although all the people that would come and go, you know, 326 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,680 Stephanie Cole is the Black Widow and yeah, she. 327 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,400 Was about 38, wasn't she? Or. 328 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,680 Something. Yeah, No, it's. 329 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,640 Really young, Yeah. Yeah, it says something. 330 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,560 She could be in the reboot as well. 331 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,920 Yes. But exactly as Donna says, the 332 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,080 problem with the reboot, which I've never bothered with, is it 333 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,440 seems to have forgotten who Granville is. 334 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:48,480 And OK, he might have been landed with the shop, but he 335 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,160 would. He should still be wanting to 336 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,440 get away from it, but being frustrated by it. 337 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,280 But having turned into Ark right kind of misses the whole point. 338 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,640 Exactly. Yeah, it's it's totally against 339 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,720 his character, isn't it? But you know, going back to the 340 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,480 original, it's like, yeah, Ronnie Barker's absolute genius. 341 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,440 It's such an amazing creation. Right. 342 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,280 Just brilliant. It does a thing that I think 343 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,040 will come. I'll I'll certainly mention if 344 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,720 we come to you with those and horses, which is it doesn't do a 345 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:21,160 thing where it doesn't overuse its guest tons Open All Hours. 346 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,160 So you get you get people that come in like I'd like Stephanie 347 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,600 Cole, but also like Howard Lee Lewis and Teddy Turner. 348 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,160 But their occasional appearances are a little bit they're such a 349 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,240 bonus when they arrive. You do, you see people like Liz 350 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,040 Dawn, don't you? Briefly and absolutely. 351 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,120 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sarah Duckworth there's there's 352 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:44,000 the little guy with glasses who comes in off the street to 353 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,600 correct outright spelling on the window, and he says you spell it 354 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,880 with a. With a hole and then he go. 355 00:20:54,280 --> 00:21:00,120 He's wearing a balaclava and the glasses right his neck and makes 356 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:03,200 the mistake of saying about a tin of beans behind that crate. 357 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:08,800 The next minute he's going out with boxes, which always made me 358 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,560 wonders like, how does the shop continue when he's ripped off? 359 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,840 Absolutely. But then you've. 360 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,600 Gotten onto his schemes exactly, but avoid that place, yeah? 361 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,160 But then you also forget, and this might be a shock for if you 362 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:28,000 do in fact have any younger listeners, but you know, 363 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,400 supermarkets were actually quite thin on the ground then, you 364 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,880 know, they weren't, they weren't as prevalent as they are now's 365 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,120 and people didn't drive to them. So you didn't really have any 366 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:40,240 option. Yeah, there's something quite 367 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,800 romantic about the whole idea, because they're both dreamers in 368 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:47,000 different ways, aren't they? They're, you know, he's dreaming 369 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,520 about Nurse Gladys and he's dreaming about getting away with 370 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,600 them with the milk lady, you know, it's, it's quite sweet, 371 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,600 you know? And let's finish this bit with 372 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:05,520 that image of Granville and his dangler going to get stuck in 373 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:12,000 the till. OK, OK, so next moving on #16 374 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,160 and this was #27 on the BBC chart and it is rising damp. 375 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,880 Oh really? That I thought that would be 376 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,120 much higher up because Rising Damp is, is one of the great 377 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,680 sitcoms. It's one of the very best 378 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,200 sitcoms. Best ITV sitcom ever? 379 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,280 Oh, I don't know about that. I would. 380 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:32,840 I don't think I've thought about it long enough, but it's 381 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,080 definitely right up at the top there. 382 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,360 It's an astonishingly good program. 383 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,280 Absolutely. Barnstorming performance from 384 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,200 Leonard Rossiter. Well, and you said obviously 385 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,560 Open All Hours was Roy Clark's greatest sitcom. 386 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,000 This is definitely Eric Chappell's. 387 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,240 Oh yeah. Oh, definitely, although I 388 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,400 wonder if, I wonder if you looked at the ratings. 389 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,320 I don't know. I get, I suspect that only when 390 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,880 I laugh was probably more successful because there was 391 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,760 always like right up in the top 10 programmes. 392 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,640 It was a huge show, which is free, of course, and duty free. 393 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,520 They were massive and they were, they were like, they would be 394 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,760 knocking like Coronation Street off #1 in some weeks. 395 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,920 And and they they, they haven't lasted in anything like the way 396 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,760 rising dampers. Yeah. 397 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,440 It's also so interesting that it's managed to last so long 398 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,280 when one of them, and maybe that's why it's lasted so long 399 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,920 when one of the major planks over is Rigsby's blatant racism. 400 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,480 Yeah. But it's it's somehow because 401 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,000 it's directed, I think we mentioned before and one of my 402 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:44,080 extended state first that we've done for you before, Taylor, 403 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,960 that I was never really sold on till death was depart. 404 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,720 I was never really sold on the idea that you were laughing. 405 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,080 People were laughing at Afghan for being racist, but you're 406 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,080 definitely wrapped laughing at Rigsby for being racist. 407 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,560 And I think that's why at last, I think that's why it's OK. 408 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,000 I've always I've tried to divine why that's OK. 409 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,840 And some of it's just, it's funny, but no, in a punching 410 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,000 down funny kind of way, because nobody's punching down on 411 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,080 Phillip. Yeah, but it it it's that 412 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,680 terrible trouble with people. So you could make it now. 413 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,600 Well, you obviously you couldn't make it now because I don't 414 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,560 think people would get, would, would, maybe they don't have, 415 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,400 maybe the new ones wouldn't be picked up. 416 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,600 Maybe the situation's too different. 417 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,720 But the the it's blatantly racist, but not problematic. 418 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,880 Is that because of the status? Is that because the Rigsby is 419 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,440 kind of lower status to Philip? I mean, possibly, and and maybe 420 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,240 it's just because he's clearly an idiot. 421 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:48,400 You know, he's not he's he's not, you know, the worst thing 422 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,000 he can do is, is, is take away the table or something. 423 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,000 And I don't, I don't he's always try to borrow money off him and 424 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,000 he's always coming offset and base to Philip and and I don't 425 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,880 know, it's a really interesting dynamic, but it's but the fact 426 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:07,480 that it's not laid it to being disappeared in a sort of style 427 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,600 in the sense is really, really interesting. 428 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,160 Yeah. Absolutely. 429 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:14,280 Also replete with some some fantastic guest stars as well. 430 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:20,680 Peter Balls, Britain's last real man, who's of course is Please 431 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,720 Please Hillary. The is Hillary the actor is that 432 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,200 if he calls me Ducky one more time. 433 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,000 Hello Ducky. And then of course, the I think 434 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,440 he's gay. That turns out, of course, he's 435 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:36,720 not. Is is how they managed to do all 436 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,240 these things and not be somehow problematic in that sort of 70s 437 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,040 way. It's a real testament to the act 438 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,080 and into Eric Chapel's incredible scripts. 439 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:56,160 OK, so #15 is bottom, which was #45 in the BBC chart. 440 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,880 Really. Was it that high up? 441 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,320 The 45 was low down, I should say. 442 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,640 I. Love the way down. 443 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen to Colin Broccoli. 444 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,440 He he said it takes the young Ones ethos of setting anarchy 445 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,640 firmly within the bounds of a conventional sitcom, but with 446 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:17,840 added Samuel Beckett. I know all these what, 3? 447 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,920 There's three series I know every episode of by heart. 448 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,320 Yes, I used to. Watch I used to watch the the 449 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:32,520 1st 2 live videos on a loop and for me for me the Ferris wheel 450 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,760 episode is one of the greatest half hours I think. 451 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,280 So funny you should say that because my son he's autistic so 452 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,760 he doesn't take too many things but I showed him that exact 453 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,920 episode and he loves it and he. Watches it. 454 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,600 Over and over on the Ferris wheel. 455 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,160 The Ferris wheel one. And, you know, heresy this might 456 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,760 be. It's actually my least favorite 457 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,200 one, although I love it. I mean, I love them all, but it 458 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,640 is of all of them, it's the one that I watched the least. 459 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,200 Yeah, my favorite, my favorite ones are we have the one with 460 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,440 Ellen's letter, which is getting married when he's really Yeah, 461 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,520 when he go, when he go to the dating agency. 462 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:13,360 Oh, the dating agency. Oh, his dating video is 463 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,080 brilliant. Yeah. 464 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,840 He's. He's like, you know, sweating 465 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,280 videos. Brilliant. 466 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:24,280 When he he says, oh, oh, you want, you want a man like the 467 00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:27,040 like, like Kim Basinger. No, I want Kim Basinger. 468 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,880 She's not on her books. She went well. 469 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:36,560 It's not much of A marriage, but all but also the the finale is 470 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,440 is astonishing. The the the you know, the one at 471 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,280 the carnival with the they get shot at the end. 472 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,640 Spoilers and but actually one of the my favorite lines ever in 473 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,040 any program ever is when they first the you know, the SES 474 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,560 first shoot through the walls and the funny phone back. 475 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,040 He says hello and points to the holes. 476 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:04,520 Hello of the colander but I've always thought it's just Rick 477 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,400 and Vivian have just grown up and living let's still living in 478 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,000 the in a house that's exact basically that's what it is 479 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,320 yeah. That's what they turn into Eddie 480 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,240 Hitler. Any other relation, yes. 481 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,280 I just love Rick as a performer. He just gives you absolutely 482 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,560 everything he's got. He's just, he was just force of 483 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,920 nature. He was just like the best I 484 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,800 think. And Rogers, Rogers, Rogers the 485 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,680 landlord is just amazing as well. 486 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,400 And there's gold. Finger on the telly. 487 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,480 Has Roger Sloman ever won any award? 488 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,520 Because he's like one of the sort of unsung heroes of British 489 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,680 comedy, in a way. Surely he must have won 490 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,080 something from Nuts and Me because. 491 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,800 Oh, he must have done, Yeah. Because then you're allowed. 492 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,240 You get awards if you work for Mike Lee or Ken Loach. 493 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,720 That's true. Nuts and me. 494 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,280 Nuts and me being, as I've said before, the textbook might Glee. 495 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,120 Comedy, comedy, comedy, comedy. Death. 496 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:15,360 Oh gosh, yes. #14 is ghosts. Oh wow. 497 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,600 Or is it used to be called the Ghosts of Motley Hall? 498 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,240 Well, I'm much more familiar with that, Chris. 499 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:29,200 I gave ghosts to go and I just didn't particularly take to it 500 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,040 personally. I don't know. 501 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,120 If you guys, of course. I thought it was great. 502 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,680 I, I thought it was a lovely. It's very rare to be able to sit 503 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,440 down like the whole family could watch it and enjoy it and laugh 504 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,240 at all the same things. There's such a rare experience 505 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,200 now, and I think a lot of these sitcoms, people are so warm and 506 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,800 nostalgic about them because it reminds you of being with your 507 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,480 mum and dad and laughing. Like, I'll probably mention it 508 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,360 later, but yeah, about, you know, that that whole emotional 509 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,440 side of watching these sort of oh. 510 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,240 Absolutely. I mean Open All Hours. 511 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,760 I had them all taped off the telly when I was a kid and, and, 512 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,520 and my teenage years were spent with my dad, my mum. 513 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,200 My mum had died. So it was, it was something that 514 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,760 me and my dad would watch Open All Hours or the videos. 515 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,800 And even though we'd seen them a dozen times each, we'd still 516 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,240 roar of laughter. Yeah. 517 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,160 Can you when you re watch these things, can you hear your dad 518 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,040 laughing in your head? Oh yes. 519 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,880 I can as well with these shows. There's one, there's one 520 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,040 particular show that we're going to mention shortly in particular 521 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,680 where that's the case. Yeah, yeah. 522 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,200 With Ghosts, James Page, former guest, he said it's one of those 523 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,440 wonderful sitcoms where it's possible to adore every 524 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,000 character, even a disembodied head, especially a disembodied 525 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,640 head. And he said this kind of charms 526 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,040 with what you you said before, Donna. 527 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,160 I love that when I I watch it with my daughter we laugh at the 528 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,440 same bits. Yeah. 529 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,280 And I live my life by the mantra Be more Mike. 530 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,280 Yeah, see, my my favorite character is Phil the caveman. 531 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,240 Oh, is it Robin? No, Rob is Robin. 532 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,000 Sorry, Robin the Robin the caveman. 533 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,040 Me. Too I. 534 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,280 He's. Great, isn't he? 535 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,080 He's like the most primitive but the most emotionally 536 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,320 intelligent. Yeah, it's just brilliant. 537 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,000 It's such a such a genius idea. Having this Stone Age man gives 538 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,600 you the same. But who can speak French? 539 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,880 Yeah. So maybe I should give it 540 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,320 another go. Oh. 541 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,520 It's a great show. And actually the, the that 542 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,080 Christmas episode a few years ago, there was sort of the, the 543 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,040 conclusion to it and weirdly it got a sort of a lot of stick. 544 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,840 I don't really understand why, because I thought it was a 545 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,360 fantastic way. Yeah, it got a lot of criticism 546 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,680 or it got some criticism, I should say, which any criticism 547 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,280 I thought of it was bizarre. I mean, I mean, amongst people 548 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,680 who actually like the show, I mean, you don't like it and 549 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,360 they're fair enough. But I, I thought it was a great 550 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,320 way to to finish off. Yeah, but, and, and of course 551 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,400 it's, we might mention this in in connection with some of the 552 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,720 other ones further up because it it, they tried to do that when 553 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,120 they translated it to America, which is a big feature of 554 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,760 British sitcoms and it's terrible. 555 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,200 The American one is terrible. Entirely misses the point. 556 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,880 Yeah, there's, there's so much and all the characters, you, you 557 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,240 know, you, there's so much affection for all the characters 558 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,520 as well. It's very rare to have that in 559 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,600 sitcom really, you know? Yeah, absolutely. 560 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,760 Yeah, that. You really care about them all. 561 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,320 And it's, I think it's lovely and it's, it's a rare feat to, 562 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,520 as you know, we said, you know, to, to make a sitcom that 563 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,120 everyone can watch any generation. 564 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,280 All right, so we're up to #13 and this is certainly one of my 565 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:50,200 top three and it was #10 on the BBC chart, it is 1 foot in the 566 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,640 grave. Oh yeah, wow, what a show. 567 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,080 It's actually as we're recording, it's, it's December 568 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,640 2000. So exactly 25 years ago was when 569 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,480 Victor was killed off. Yeah. 570 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,440 Very brave thing to do to kill off your iconic character, yeah. 571 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,880 Another controversial ending, last episode of including 572 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:19,000 episode of it that comes 56. Because it it, it it Somehow I 573 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,880 think people were felt cheated by it. 574 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,600 Because you, you don't like to think of Victor being anything 575 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,760 other than eternal. Yeah. 576 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,560 But you can hardly. You can hardly do that with a 577 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,280 show that's called 1 Foot in the Green. 578 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:41,520 Well, Renwick had teased viewers before that Victor had died. 579 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,360 If there's the there's the episode Wisdom of the Witch, the 580 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,720 one with Phil Daniels and you the the the viewer has given the 581 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,440 impression that Victor has has has died. 582 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,920 And then there's the reveal at the end that no, he hasn't. 583 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,320 But so so Renwick liked to to do that sort of thing. 584 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,800 One of my proudest moments as well doing this show is being 585 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:11,239 able to pull up David Renwick on a a factual inaccuracy in one 586 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:16,040 foot in the grave because he has at one point Victor is playing, 587 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,199 I can't remember what game it is. 588 00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:21,440 He's playing a board game with his mother-in-law who's on the 589 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,040 phone. Yep. 590 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,159 I don't know if you remember that. 591 00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,199 Yep, Yep. And he describes her as 592 00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:28,800 prattling, prattling away like mini Cron. 593 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,480 And I was able to tell David, David Renner, that her name was 594 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,199 actually Mini. Mini. 595 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:40,440 Banister I watched, I watched some of them again a year or so 596 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,159 ago. And actually you it's not 597 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:45,600 something that I watch very often. 598 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,199 And I think it's I think it's because it's almost like I was 599 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,760 seated by it at the time because it was so great. 600 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,360 So I watched that again and and really it's an astonishingly 601 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,400 brilliant and funny program. And what I think is really brave 602 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,040 of David Rainwick and the cast is a lot of the best jokes are 603 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,720 in the background and completely unremarked on. 604 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,040 And I think especially one of my my favorite example is that is 605 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:18,720 when Mrs. War Boys comes back from our holiday at late in LA 606 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,800 and she's playing them our slides. 607 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,960 And of course, the the trope being that everybody's you're 608 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,800 dead bored by having to watch people's holiday slides. 609 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,160 And as they're just discussing something else in the 610 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,800 background, all the slides are like Mrs. War Boys with 611 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:41,560 Sylvester and Michael Caine. They don't even give them a 612 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:48,800 second look. And also the episode where every 613 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,760 time they open the door in the living room, there's the this, 614 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,720 the the enormous photograph of them in the hall, the absolutely 615 00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:00,800 giant passport photograph, which isn't commented on for until 616 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,480 about halfway through when he said, I asked for it to be 10 by 617 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:13,840 10, I didn't mean 10 feet by 10. It's having the confidence, not 618 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,560 in your audience not to have to flag all this stuff up 619 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,400 immediately. That's just so great. 620 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,280 My my favorite episode is The Man Who Blew Away. 621 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,200 I think that's what it's called with Brian Murphy. 622 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,840 Oh God. Which? 623 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,360 Which is Mr. Foskett? I think his name is Which ends 624 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:35,440 in tragedy, but the whole thing about the two boys being assumed 625 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:41,800 to be his sons and they just neighborhood brats that have 626 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,320 wandered them off the street. Oh my God. 627 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:50,920 What a show. Michael Clarke Listen to Michael 628 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,920 Clarke He he he said for for what may look like a cosy, safe 629 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,840 suburban sitcom. It does have moments of very 630 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,200 dark humour and surrealism and even occasionally push comedy 631 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,200 boundaries, something which was very rarely seen in the BBC 632 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,440 studio based sitcom pre League of Gentlemen. 633 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,360 Yeah, Renwick was not afraid of. I mean that episode with the old 634 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,760 people's home. Oh yes. 635 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,480 Something else, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, because it basically 636 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,520 finishes with the fact that he's he's tied them all up his, he's 637 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,280 dropped the ball and tied them all up his scarecrows and put 638 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,560 them in the fields. It's like a horror film. 639 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,600 Yeah, it is amazing. Like, like the guy who 640 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,800 contributed just there just said, you know, it how it sneaks 641 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,960 things sort of under the radar in this conventional sitcom 642 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,280 world, that it is very dark at times and very strange, you 643 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,320 know? Yeah, it's admirable that it 644 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,840 does that. It's it's a kind David Rennick 645 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,720 in that sense akin to, you know, everybody likes to think of Alan 646 00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:58,280 Bennett as being about, you know, digested biscuits and anti 647 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,480 Macassos and things. Actually, it's one thing. 648 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:06,200 It's incredibly filthy and it's not cozy at all. 649 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,000 Yeah, one friend. The grave has sort of been fixed 650 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,360 in people's minds as Victor being, you know, I don't believe 651 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,720 it And and silly. No instance. 652 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:15,960 Naturally there's I mean, there's the episode where Jane 653 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,360 Davitsky loses a child. Yeah. 654 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,960 Yeah, because she was in a bus crash and things like that. 655 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,160 And and sometimes, I have to admit, sometimes at the jar a 656 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:29,880 bit for me, but they certainly didn't, as you see, shy away 657 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:36,000 from that stuff to be applauded. I applaud you to be instead of 658 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,600 David Brennan. I by the way, for the record, 659 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,720 David Remwick, his favorite sitcoms, British sitcoms. 660 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:47,360 Fawlty Towers Hancock's half hour until death is due part 661 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,680 Chris. There you go. 662 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:59,160 So those are his influences. OK, so number #12 and it is OK, 663 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,960 It's whatever happened to the likely lads. 664 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,240 OK, So many votes for that. None. 665 00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:08,840 No votes for the likely lads. So it's it's very much the, 666 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,800 yeah, the sequel. That makes a lot of sense 667 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,920 though, you know that I'm sure we're sort of interested at the 668 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,800 time and all that, but the the the the moreys that are dealt 669 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,240 with and whatever happens to like far more raising and for 670 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:26,480 people, I think. Donna, were you a fan of what 671 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,520 had happened to? I, I did watch a few episodes of 672 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,720 so I was a bit young when they first went out, but I've seen 673 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:37,520 them subsequently and I, I do think it chimes the themes chime 674 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,280 with a lot of people. And it's when James Bolan's 675 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,920 character comes out of the army, isn't it? 676 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,920 Yes, he famously missed the permissive society, didn't he? 677 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,760 Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's brilliant. 678 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,040 It's so brilliantly written. And Bridget, is it Bridget 679 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,200 Forsythe? Yeah. 680 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,400 Yes, it's great. Who's? 681 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,000 In the past a week quite recently. 682 00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:01,560 Yeah, she was fantastic. I think she was formidable 683 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,320 character, wasn't she? And that sort of upwardly mobile 684 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,120 theme and, you know, the contrast between the two friends 685 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:10,840 and where they are in their lives. 686 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:19,080 The set up of like, you know, Bob is, you know, trying to do 687 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,800 what you're supposed to do with the house and the car and the 688 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,600 job and the the wave and all that sort of thing. 689 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,720 And Terry's out there and he's lever, you know, he's getting 690 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:32,760 nothing, but he's he's free and he can do what he likes and he 691 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,320 can see who he likes. You know, that and the joint, 692 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,760 you know that tension it, you know, it hit really hard, must 693 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,800 have hit really hard at the time, but it still does. 694 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,840 It still absolutely does. It's like it's really, it's 695 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,000 really obvious, I think why people still love it, apart from 696 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,240 the fact that it's just very weirdly written and acted. 697 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,120 Matt Owen, who's a comic comedy writer. 698 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,320 Matt Owen, former guest as well. Is this his favorite sitcom? 699 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,480 And he says from the opening scene where Thelma Pet is 700 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,440 organising Christmas only for us to discover it September. 701 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,680 That I was actually just going to mention that. 702 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,960 That's a great line. To to Bob taking the piss out of 703 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,080 Terry taking his driving test. This is peak. 704 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,360 Whatever happened to Yeah Bob's? Bob's also showing up as a bit 705 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,920 of a shit house for cheating on Thelma at the fancy dress party. 706 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,480 Yeah. Oh yeah, I remember that one. 707 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,920 Yeah. At the fancy dress party Terry 708 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,840 delivers them to as a mini cab driver. 709 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,040 Yeah, it's a it's a now opening sequence that he mentions where 710 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,920 there's all the stuff about the presents and the lithic. 711 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,760 We're going to get shop, we're going to do this, we're going to 712 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,280 do that. Bob complaining that, you know, 713 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,560 don't interrupt me when I'm in the toilet with the paper. 714 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,280 And and it's a good 5 or 6 minutes before he finally says, 715 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:54,960 but Thelma, it's September also will also produce one of the 716 00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:00,520 very, very best sitcom films. The films actually, however, is 717 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,680 a fantastic some awesome, awesome lines and that you know 718 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,360 where Teddy's out fishing and Bob goes out. 719 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,560 He's away early into the jetty and he says I could, he said. 720 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,400 I don't think I can, but I've only got the sex. 721 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,760 It's such a brilliant observation of male friendship 722 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,800 and both characters slightly envy the other, don't they? 723 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,160 Well, yeah, that's that's the tension, isn't it? 724 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,200 The each one they'd secretly each want to be the other one. 725 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,480 Yeah, but but that's that's that's friendship and it's a 726 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,440 proper friendship because they don't always like each other. 727 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,800 Claim it. So that's claiming Lfredi's 728 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,360 first appearance it. Is it? 729 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,240 Is there? You go and Tracy. 730 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:47,560 OK, but it's #11 now this, this one was #35 on the BBC chart and 731 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:53,360 I will give you a clue. The first person to get it wins. 732 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,480 The word is ravioli. Ravioli. 733 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,560 No. The fallen rise of Reginald 734 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,120 Perry. OK. 735 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,920 I like ravioli. Oh yeah? 736 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,960 Have you said mother's coming round on Sunday? 737 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,600 I would have got it. Oh yes, well, that I've said 738 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,640 this many times. That I didn't get what I am 739 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,080 today, but no exactly all over first, second. 740 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,520 Yeah. That's my dad prepared me for a 741 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,440 repeat run of original parent when I was a kid. 742 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,720 He said you'll love this because there's this man and whenever he 743 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:35,240 thinks of his mother-in-law, he sees a hippopotamus. 744 00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:37,080 And I just thought that sounds brilliant. 745 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:42,600 Yep, and it was and and for me this is peak Rossiter. 746 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,920 He has the Reggie has the edge for me over Rigsby, I think. 747 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:47,960 Really. Right. 748 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,000 That's interesting. Sue Nichols as his secretary. 749 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,400 Could you imagine Ronnie Barker playing Reggie, Which was the. 750 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,200 Original. I don't think so. 751 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,040 I don't think so. I mean, Leonard Rosser, he's 752 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,800 sort of, he's so sort of tightly wound, isn't he? 753 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,880 He's so neurotic. I couldn't imagine. 754 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,920 Ronnie Barker seems sort of slightly more laid back 755 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,920 character in a way I couldn't imagine the energy would be 756 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,000 totally different I think. It's a bit like somebody out of 757 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,160 it, but I think it's Peter Yousnoff in his book saying 758 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,280 about he doesn't really ever believe in Lons Olivier played 759 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,480 Hamlet because Hamlet is a man who can't make up his mind and 760 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,520 he couldn't ever believe that Lons Olivier would be able to 761 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,760 make up his mind. And with with Ronnie Bart, I 762 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,880 don't know. You can't. 763 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,720 I can't imagine them being that sort of frustrated that top 764 00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:38,840 tight trying to bring free yeah, you know, sort of quietly 765 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,360 rebellious Daydream of the the the Reggie is. 766 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,760 Yeah, you couldn't imagine anybody but then of roster 767 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,200 playing that sort of person. But also, I'm sure in the 768 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,960 process of development, these things have, you know, could you 769 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,480 imagine David Knobs working with when the roster it developed in 770 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,760 that way, you remember, have developed in an entirely 771 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,440 different way with Ronnie Barker, you know? 772 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,040 Yeah, absolutely. The the only downside to in my 773 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,520 eyes, to the former rise of original parents was the third 774 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:13,200 series We had these this what was it like this mindfulness 775 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,160 clinic or whatever you want to call it, the what would you? 776 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,080 Call it. Yeah, yeah. 777 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,520 Health Farm or. Whatever with freakishly 778 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:24,120 prescient well-being clinic or whatever the fuck you would call 779 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,040 it now. Mindfulness set up Yeah, with. 780 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,080 With, with, with, with Wrong. Tom. 781 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,120 Yeah. They got rid of Tim Priest 782 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,080 didn't come back. So they had Leslie Schofield. 783 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:35,920 Was it? Was it him? 784 00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:39,560 You know, it's, it's, I think I saw it maybe at the time. 785 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,520 I don't think I've ever seen any of it since. 786 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:46,640 And and that that cook McLaren. Don't ask me why Chris, but he 787 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:51,400 was a drunken Scotsman. Maybe it was a play on Angus, 788 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,000 Laney and yeah, and Crossroads. Yeah, yeah. 789 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,680 And. Jimmy McPhee. 790 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,240 Just one one thing as well listen to listen to Annie Di 791 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,840 Pyombo. She says the Fulham Rise 792 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,440 original parent was unique. The plot lines and career paths 793 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,200 of Kilter, the odd catch phrases and running gags, the great 794 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,360 characters and casting. But of the of the Rossiterless 795 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,760 revival 17 years later, let a veil be drawn. 796 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,200 And yeah, that was terrible. The legacy of regional parent. 797 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,280 Do you remember that? It was 2 though, wasn't there? 798 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,080 There were two attempts at reboots. 799 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,960 There was, there was, there was the one with Martin Cluden. 800 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,360 Oh God, yes. As as Reggie. 801 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,360 And then there was the legacy of the one where there was as well 802 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,920 where it was roster to bless, but it still had John Byron and 803 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,800 people like that and and sort of Patricia Hodge being became the 804 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,960 kind of antagonist as as they said, but I remember very, very 805 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,640 little of it. Can I just mention John Baron as 806 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,720 CJ? What an absolutely bonkers 807 00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:01,360 performance that is. He just shouts the entire time, 808 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,880 doesn't he? Just shouts his lines. 809 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,480 It's it's so weird. It's brilliant. 810 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,600 And the the the sly deviousness of having chairs that make 811 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,320 noises and there's lower down than everybody. 812 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:20,120 And I'm sure people find that very, very recognisable at the 813 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,560 time. One of the one of the one of my 814 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,000 favorite running jokes. So that that's never commented 815 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,480 on in the show or or very real easier people talk about it is 816 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,400 that depending on how well Sunshine Desserts does at the 817 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,600 time is the letters above the door. 818 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:40,200 Oh yes, yeah. Oh my God. 819 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,280 Which I think is a fantastic, fantastic little running joke. 820 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,360 His is it his brother-in-law? What's his brother-in-law? 821 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,280 Ohh. Jimmy. 822 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,880 Jimmy. Ohh Jesus, what a great 823 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,640 character. Jimmy. 824 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,320 Jeffrey, Jeffrey. Palmer, Jeffrey. 825 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,320 Palmer. That's it. 826 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,040 Ohh. It's just hysterically funny. 827 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,200 Absolute lunatic. Ohh brilliant. 828 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,720 I just think who's all mentioned, Jeffrey. 829 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,640 Palmer, who's basically a reformed candidate, Yeah. 830 00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:09,680 Why do you think Windsor Council? 831 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,760 Now, yeah. Why do you think with Chinese 832 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:13,880 restaurant? Why do you think Windsor has 833 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,360 strained with Chinese restaurants? 834 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,920 So brilliant. It's just those peripheral 835 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,480 characters you must have. Oh, it's great writing. 836 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,920 Yeah, yeah, but but he, but he, he does fancy his niece, doesn't 837 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,560 he? Which is a problematic yes, 838 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:28,240 well. You know. 839 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:41,200 Moving on to We are now at the Top 10 #10 OK Now listener Brian 840 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,400 Godfrey. He described this as 841 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,440 groundbreaking comedy that blended sharp comedy with 842 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,000 profound pathos, social realism and character development. 843 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,600 Any ideas what that could be? My family. 844 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,800 Nearest and dearest. Yeah. 845 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,800 It is. It is Steptoe and sum. 846 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,760 Oh my God. Which which is number, which was 847 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:13,800 #15 on the BBC chart. And for me is is peak Goldman 848 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,520 Simpson. Yeah, yeah. 849 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,200 Leonard roster again pops up and that doesn't he that brilliant 850 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,120 one. That is my favorite. 851 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,160 I think actually I've got a few favourites but I almost can't 852 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,000 bear to watch it at the same time because it's such a toxic. 853 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,120 Well. See. 854 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,800 For me the my favorite episode is Star is Born I think with 855 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,720 with Trevor Bannister. Yep. 856 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,200 Right. What's his name? 857 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,960 Chris Rupert. Robert Rupert Fifine's. 858 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,760 Mirror or something? Mirror. 859 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,200 Yeah. Robertson, OR. 860 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,040 Something but it's got it's got Margaret Nolan in it, but there 861 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:55,320 is there's also a crack at Irene handle, which I've. 862 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,840 Been I've been most honoured to work with Miss Irene Handle. 863 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:11,000 This is after the whole, you know, debacle with Tony Hancock 864 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,920 and splitting from him and deciding to work with actors, 865 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,040 Courtney Simpson wanting to work with actors rather than 866 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,240 comedians. And I mean, it's such a great 867 00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:22,120 move. I mean, they both are so 868 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,200 extraordinary. I think the divide when they 869 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,440 divide the house, I think that's the episode I've probably seen 870 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,240 the most and or the one with the vicar. 871 00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:33,600 You know they have to, you know, with the, with the, you know. 872 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,200 Men of letters the. Filthy Scrabble board. 873 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,600 Oh God. The vicar turns up a couple of 874 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,560 times actually, I can't remember the name of the actor because 875 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,920 he's Oh yes, he's the Brigadier as well in the to the man of 876 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:55,520 porn and he's men of letters, which is the one with the the 877 00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:01,040 the Scrabble board and porn yesterday where they find that 878 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,920 Albert's been enough what the Butler saw. 879 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,760 Yeah, yeah. Oh my goodness. 880 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,040 But also though that episode, especially some some of the 881 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,000 other my favorite is all What a beautiful morning. 882 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:18,760 Oh yes, Rita Webb. Yeah, you're gonna dig back me. 883 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:24,120 What Chuck after Big Toes on Molly Suckton is in it as well. 884 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,920 My spirit. Yeah, and I wondered sometimes 885 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,440 rather for these are like what beautiful modern wars, because 886 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,120 it's it's probably the for ironically for the about 887 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,400 funeral. It's probably the least dramatic 888 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,880 one because I'd love if it's not comedy, it's proper. 889 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,280 It's straightforward trauma. It's but I mean the starters 890 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,280 born has an incredibly just sad ending. 891 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,320 Yes. With the hard very unable. 892 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,880 To watch it. Yeah, that's what yeah, that's 893 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,560 what I mean. This is that when there's all 894 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,440 our beautiful 1 is just most the plates of it's just silly from 895 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,800 start to fetish. I just I just left there with 896 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,040 PIBPIPEYE later when he has to be in drag. 897 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,480 Oh yes, this is his dead 1 going up the stairs. 898 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,040 What a beautiful morning. Has one of my favorite line 899 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,920 deliveries. One of my favourite line 900 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,000 deliveries which is Harry H Corbett. 901 00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:29,160 It's the bit where he's arranged to go to a party after the 902 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,760 funeral with one of the young women there. 903 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,440 Yeah. Because like a cousin, cousin or 904 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,280 something like that. Yeah. 905 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:43,360 And then and then Albert implies heavily that actually she she 906 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,720 could be more than just a distant. 907 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:49,000 Yeah, she's one of Alice's kids. Yeah, and it's the way that 908 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,600 Harry. The realization dawns on Harry H 909 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,520 Corbett's face and he says what a bleeding family. 910 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,240 Something I really don't like in other people is that for a long 911 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:05,840 time I didn't watch any of the black and white episodes because 912 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,600 I have I have a real love of colour studio tape. 913 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,920 I just love watching any of this made on studio tape. 914 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,960 So then watch any of the black and white ones for a long time. 915 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,800 And then I started to watch some things like cross swords, which 916 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,760 Frank Thornton's and and oh God, I've been missing out in this 917 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,880 for years watching Schmuck. Yeah, Pilgrims progress. 918 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,280 No, they're just so great at the the 1:00 where they're under the 919 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,360 siege of Oil Drum lead. Oh. 920 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,760 Yeah. Where they're trying to get the 921 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,480 money or the because Albert's been eating oysters and 922 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,800 Philippines. And also you had two spin off 923 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,120 films, well didn't you from. Yeah. 924 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:50,360 Tremendous films, yeah. OK, so #9 but this was #31 on 925 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,920 the BBC chart in 2004 and it is the Young ones. 926 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,280 OK. I thought it would be a bit 927 00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,360 higher up than that to be honest. 928 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,960 See the young ones I I'm much more of a bottom fan Yeah Yep, I 929 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,240 love the young ones taking me wrong. 930 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:08,440 Although I didn't like it at first, it was one of those I 931 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,040 was, I was whatever at age 1112 when it was yeah on. 932 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,080 And it was one of those that you'd hear your peers in the 933 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,400 playground talking about or the cool kids talking about. 934 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:24,800 That was me. And, and I watched, I watched 935 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,600 the episode is it which is the one where Vivian's pregnant? 936 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,680 I think it's that one. Is it nasty? 937 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,200 Sick I'm. Not sure, one of them anyway. 938 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,680 And I didn't and I remember watching it and not really 939 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,480 liking it, but then persevering and watching the next week and 940 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,200 really enjoying it after that. So it was. 941 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,200 It was one that I had to persevere with. 942 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,240 I watched, I watched it from the start because of because of Rick 943 00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:53,720 Mail, because of Kevin Turvy. Me and my dad a huge fan of the 944 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,240 of Kevin Turvy and say this guy is going to be in this sitcom. 945 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:02,480 And I think the power of the VHS recorder really helped the young 946 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:07,400 ones, I think with my generation of just videoing it and 947 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,720 nerdishly rewatching it and going into the playground the 948 00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:13,400 next next day and just rattling off all bits of it. 949 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,920 But it was like, you know, it was my sort of Python, really 950 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,400 my, I absolutely adored it. And particularly Rick Mail. 951 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,120 When it went out, I mean, again, just like you'd done it. 952 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,360 I knew Rick Mail and Adrian Edwards because, you know, the 953 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,400 dangerous brothers just appear on like, you know, the Saudis 954 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,160 show and things like that. Thought that were great and 955 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,480 Kevin Calvin. But I was a bit too young for to 956 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,800 see it to be allowed to see it going out. 957 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,080 Right. And actually went out because it 958 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,000 was, you know, after bedtime and you would hear people get super 959 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,120 old talking about it. And then the the the only, I 960 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,720 think the only one actually. So going out the time was the 961 00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:58,560 very last episode, which happens was sort of in the summer. 962 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,960 And I think because it was the summer, it was a late, it may 963 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,120 even have coincided with the late the last week at school or 964 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,440 something. So we would like to watch it and 965 00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:12,120 and obviously it's I loved it. The last episode is phenomenally 966 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,320 good. I wonder if the reference point 967 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,720 still mean anything to you, like younger people, because you 968 00:56:17,720 --> 00:56:20,680 know, the course of all. The point was, you know, about 969 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:26,720 Trotsky Trot Trotty students and dismal student digs and things. 970 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,080 And when I was a union early 90s, it was still like that. 971 00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:34,920 I don't imagine it's like that. Yeah, yeah, no. 972 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:41,160 And and jokes about Cliff Richard and you know a lot of 973 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,360 it, but. He he filled the Albert Hall. 974 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,440 Last week, yeah, he did, Richard. 975 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,760 Yeah, I saw a clip of him. God love him. 976 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:49,880 Propelled by you. Do it. 977 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,360 Yeah. Is he still knocking out those 978 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,720 calendars? Oh. 979 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,200 God please, I tried to wipe them from my memory. 980 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,360 Place is hot. Just on on the young ones, David 981 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,720 Morgan listener, he said endlessly. 982 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:11,880 It's an endlessly quotable show and he he singles out, I think 983 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,160 the one that everyone considers to be the greatest episode, 984 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,360 Bambi, the University Challenge episode. 985 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,840 And he he quotes the bit, well, are you going to let us win? 986 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,320 No, of course not. The posh kids win. 987 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:24,000 They always. Do. 988 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,400 Oh dear, I actually met Rick Mayo once. 989 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,560 What did you wow? I met him, I saw him do a solo 990 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,040 stand up. He was in, I used to live in 991 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:43,560 Brighton and I was just started drama school and, and he was 992 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,080 doing a solo stand up tour and Andy de la tour was supporting 993 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,360 him. So he's thinking he's kind of a 994 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,880 rich character. So I, I went to see that and I 995 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,320 was, I thought I, he's my hero. I have to meet him. 996 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,600 So I hung around the stage door for ages it seemed, because 997 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,840 obviously he'd been pouring with sweat and was obviously having 998 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,600 to shower and getting changed and whoever his mates in the 999 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,200 area must have come by for a drink or something. 1000 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,080 And then the doors open and there he was in his black 1001 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,280 leather jacket. That's signing, you know, And he 1002 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,520 was fantastic. He was, you know, he was just 1003 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,640 everything you wanted to to be. He was very naughty and very 1004 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,840 flirtatious. Angela and Andyville with yours 1005 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,320 at bottom as well. Yeah, that's right. 1006 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:25,640 Yeah. Of course he is. 1007 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:31,600 Yes, of course he is. I noticed as well this 1008 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:36,200 completely randomly, the new sort of the most recent three 1009 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,480 Star Wars films, the sequel films. 1010 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:39,560 Oh. Yeah. 1011 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,520 And the first one is Andy de Latour. 1012 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,160 Yeah. And the second one is Adrian 1013 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,200 Edmondson. And yeah, I know where this is 1014 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,880 going and. I was all set up to watch to 1015 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,400 find out who was going to be the third one. 1016 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,920 It's like, because I thought there's a secret bottom thread 1017 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,400 running through these films. Yeah. 1018 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,440 Yeah, he's. A big fan of bottom Ryan 1019 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,800 Johnson. No, because Seal, Emery's and 1020 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,440 the they're the prequel films. I'm talking about the sequel 1021 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:09,400 films. Yeah. 1022 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,880 So like Force Awakens as got Andy de Latour in? 1023 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:13,640 It. Yeah, yeah. 1024 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,920 Last Jedi has got Adrian Edmondson in it. 1025 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,360 Yeah. And then I thought, oh, 1026 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,680 brilliant. So Force Awakens, the the last 1027 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,880 one, the fucking last one was called Rise of Skywalker. 1028 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,080 Yeah, I thought brilliant. Who's gonna be? 1029 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:32,320 This one man Roger Slime I. Was told there was gonna be like 1030 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:38,160 a a a digital recreation, a Patsy roll something I mean, in 1031 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,360 common with everything else for that film, there wasn't shit a. 1032 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:46,160 Hologram of acts, he wrote. I'm just, I'm just trying to 1033 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,720 process that idea. Patsy Rollins in Australia. 1034 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,640 That's right. God. 1035 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,760 I thought you went. Ryan Johnson is a huge fan of 1036 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,760 bottom. Yeah, so I thought, my God, that 1037 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,720 this is the whole secret thing. There's a whole secret now. 1038 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,960 And then I noticed as well in Solo. 1039 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:10,960 And in another Rogue One are actors from Gimme Gimme Gimme. 1040 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,600 Lovely. There's a whole thing happened 1041 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,280 here. You just, I think you remember 1042 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,760 they're just being Britain, so that's just hanging around. 1043 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,440 Will we be mentioning Gimme Gimme Gimme later on? 1044 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:24,800 No, I hope so. I hope so. 1045 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,280 I. Wonder #8 we're up to #8 OK. 1046 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:37,560 And it is Father Ted. Crossover with A1 foot degree 1047 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,800 of. Course, of course. 1048 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,160 Yeah. I don't believe it. 1049 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,880 Oh, it's brilliant. I just love them watching them 1050 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,960 fight in the distance, you know? So. 1051 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,000 Funny, whenever it's on, I always have to watch Father Ted 1052 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,360 to the end, even though I've seen it like a million times. 1053 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,080 It's always. It's just timeless, isn't it? 1054 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:04,480 I I vividly remember watching the first episode because, you 1055 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,760 know, back then you knew nothing about anything. 1056 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,200 It's just the fact that it was on a couple of lines in the 1057 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,960 paper and Thor comedy some priests. 1058 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,600 I thought, I thought it'd be like blessed me father or, you 1059 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,120 know, gas and Gators. And the thing that got the thing 1060 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:24,000 that got me, actually hooked me, was the drawing of Dougal, the 1061 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:31,440 inside of Dougal, said rabbits. It was, it was very much a Nimmo 1062 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,080 free zone. Yeah, yeah. 1063 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,920 Wasn't it? Yeah, I love Chris the sheep. 1064 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,240 And you know what the I watch pretty good. 1065 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,120 Now. Yeah. 1066 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,960 I go down rabbit holes sometimes of of watching on YouTube 1067 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,920 reaction videos. I don't know why I just do. 1068 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,760 Well, I do as well. Yeah, me watching people. 1069 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,040 What, because I want I kind of want to know if people enjoy the 1070 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,840 same things that I do with maybe I don't know. 1071 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,240 And one of the clips that crops up on a lot of them of special 1072 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:10,160 Americans watching stuff is is, you know, the goal where we'll 1073 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,000 get a clip here now called I can't do the accent called I 1074 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:20,320 hear you're a racist now far and loads of people watch that. 1075 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,880 There's loads of people in America, especially black people 1076 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,800 seem to watch it and absolutely love it. 1077 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,320 I hear you're a racist though, Father. 1078 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,320 What's the church's position on that? 1079 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:37,640 And the mad old women with the bags look for Good for you, good 1080 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,680 for you. Fucking coming over here. 1081 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:50,480 The Greeks. Just just on that Steven 1082 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,720 Hatcher, he said it's it's so difficult to to separate the 1083 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,160 artist from the art. But the. 1084 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,880 But the later problematic behaviour of one of the writers 1085 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,800 of father Detract cannot detract from the brilliance of this 1086 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,160 wonderfully funny show in which fabulously crafted scripts 1087 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,600 combined with extraordinary performances and brilliant sight 1088 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,200 gags to create the bizarre world of Craggy Island. 1089 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,680 And yeah, it's a shame how things panned out, I guess. 1090 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:23,760 But it's also the fact that Dermot, Dermot Morgan died the 1091 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,040 day. Yeah, died the day after 1092 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,080 completing the third series. Yeah. 1093 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,160 Awful. Yeah. 1094 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,160 So sad. He seemed to be have been a good 1095 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,840 egg. Yeah, yeah. 1096 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,640 Great, the the whole series having grown out of a stand up 1097 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,880 character of his. That's right. 1098 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,600 Yeah, yeah. Where where he played like a 1099 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,560 sort of priest. Yeah, Try to be a groovy priest. 1100 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,920 Groovy acting with kids. Yeah, but they don't sort of 1101 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:48,760 obviously got abandoned as it goes. 1102 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,440 But you. What I love is that you still 1103 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,240 hear people every now and again saying no, no, no. 1104 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,040 That money was just resting in my account. 1105 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,400 Don't call me Lane, you little shit. 1106 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,680 I'm a Bishop. Yeah, yeah. 1107 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:09,400 Little bollocks, yeah. Incredible. 1108 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:15,040 OK, so #7 is Hancock's half hour. 1109 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,680 Hurray. I know you're not that keen, 1110 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:19,520 Tyler, are you? No. 1111 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,400 I'm not. I'm not particularly. 1112 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,320 I love it. I love it as well, Chris. 1113 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,760 I think it's brilliant. Even though the wobbly sets and 1114 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,000 the fluffed lines, I think it some of it still stands up so 1115 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,040 well because the writing is fantastic. 1116 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,120 Oh yeah, I've just. I've watched a clutch of my 1117 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:43,000 favorite episodes recently and some of them like Lord Byron 1118 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,760 Lives here just. That is my favorite one. 1119 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,680 It's a fantastic. That is my favorite one. 1120 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,280 That's the first one I ever saw. So like they're in the house 1121 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,680 that starts with them trying to redecorate the house's faulty 1122 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,720 bets. And they had on the plan. 1123 01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,120 Having said that, if it's if it's somebody famous has lived 1124 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,680 there, the National Trust will do it up. 1125 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,680 Yeah, they want the. Money. 1126 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,600 They want the money to redeem. They find that Lord Byron had 1127 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:13,120 visited the area and said surreptitiously writes poems on 1128 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,560 the walls and tales of the East find them under the thing. 1129 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:17,840 I can't remember them all, but what? 1130 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,040 Hancock starts to read them. Like I know the. 1131 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:26,480 Most increasingly reverentially. And one of the pits, yeah. 1132 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,200 Yeah, I wish. I wish I were a chestnut tree, a 1133 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,440 standing in the sun with with leaves and twigs and branches 1134 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:41,400 and conquers by the tongue. I like, I like, I like the Ode 1135 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:48,480 to the Moon 00 to see your beam across the pine trees of these 1136 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,280 two, I'm very pleased to see your light coming out tomorrow 1137 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:57,760 night. It's a great it's a great show 1138 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,080 and the episode like the night when he goes to get the 1139 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,240 knighthood and even even after it changes from Hancock suffered 1140 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,960 to Hancock when he gets just got rid of Sid and and everybody 1141 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,720 else. The episodes like the Borman's 1142 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,240 and whatever are spectacular. I think it's probably the 1143 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:20,480 progenitor of a type of character that just just keeps 1144 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,640 getting repeated. You know, Alan Partridge is a 1145 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:28,760 Hancock as a faulty as a Hancock because they're the people who 1146 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:33,280 the main, they're always main. They're men who think they're 1147 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,280 cleverer than they are and who are Dicks. 1148 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,440 Yeah. But that was that's what makes 1149 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,720 them endearing, because they're because most people are Dicks, 1150 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,880 the pompous and arrogant and but actually, you know, they're 1151 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,560 quite sincere what they do and they wouldn't do your harm done 1152 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,680 unless it's to them. And it's the Hancock character 1153 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,920 just reappears every decade in some other form. 1154 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:04,280 Chris, Chris Stratton made the point that obviously it was 1155 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,640 Galton and Simpson, the writing team, and it was, in a way, the 1156 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:12,040 first sitcom of its kind, technically, not the first 1157 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:16,000 sitcom, obviously, of course. And you mentioned about that 1158 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,800 sort of archetype, Chris, the Hancock archetype. 1159 01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,040 Another example of that would be Captain Mannering. 1160 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,400 Yeah, absolutely. Who pops up in our sixth placed? 1161 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,480 Which is Dead's? Which is Dead's army. 1162 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:37,600 Segway. Yeah, so this was number six on 1163 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,000 our chart, was actually #4 on the BBC chart. 1164 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,400 And yeah, a great show, obviously very, very popular, 1165 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,200 still shown to this day, I believe on BBC Two. 1166 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,560 No Dad's Army is a perennial mystery to me. 1167 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,720 I like it fine. I find it enjoyable to watch. 1168 01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,840 Everybody in it is very good. Occasionally I'll laugh out 1169 01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,760 loud. I've never quite understood its 1170 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,720 grip on the public's consciousness. 1171 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,040 Yeah, I agree. What about you, Donna? 1172 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,520 I'm. Quite fond of it. 1173 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,600 I I I'm always surprised how few episodes there are. 1174 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,479 You always think there are more. It seems to always be on, but I 1175 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,920 suppose a sort of English archetypes or something. 1176 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:30,760 But I love the dynamic between John the Messerie and Arcolo. 1177 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:36,640 You know the status like he is, you know he's superior, but in 1178 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,760 life you know his status is lower and social. 1179 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:41,560 Inferior. Yeah, exactly. 1180 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,560 And all that, that. That's an interesting sort of 1181 01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:47,399 play. And also Pike being his son, 1182 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,120 it's so obvious it's his son. So it was all the little, little 1183 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,439 details like that. And I love Godfrey. 1184 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,200 Godfrey's my favorite. I think he's a sweetheart. 1185 01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:01,479 But yeah, I and that episode where Arthur Lowe plays his 1186 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,960 drunken brother, yeah, is absolute genius. 1187 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,319 What a great actor he was. It's so good. 1188 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:14,760 The terrible deflation that Mannering suffers with 1189 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:19,479 incredible tip top telephone acting where he tells Elizabeth 1190 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,600 that he's got a piece of cheese. Oh yeah. 1191 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,319 And she obviously tells him to shove it up his arms. 1192 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,040 It's like a really unhappy home life. 1193 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:29,960 You get so much, don't you, from that? 1194 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:34,640 And is it Carmen Silvera plays this woman that comes in that he 1195 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,920 falls in love with, and it's like Brief Encounter and it gets 1196 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,720 very, very serious and it's beautifully played. 1197 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,600 It's wonderful. It's certainly another example. 1198 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,680 It's probably the best example of material elevated by by the 1199 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,399 actors. Exactly, Yeah. 1200 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,319 And, and they, they made that film of it. 1201 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,440 Not that long. Well, I see that long. 1202 01:09:54,440 --> 01:10:00,560 It was probably 20 years ago with a, a great cast. 1203 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:02,800 You know, it's a spectacular cast. 1204 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,360 And actually it was, you know, like if you'd never seen the 1205 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:06,600 series, you'd think it was great. 1206 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,720 You know, Tom Courtney and and Michael Gambon. 1207 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,560 Michael Gambon. Toby Jones. 1208 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,040 Yeah, Toby Jones, his manager. So I mean, they were all, they 1209 01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,080 were all brilliant. You. 1210 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,640 Know great actors. But it it, it didn't work in the 1211 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,240 same way. And maybe that's because it was 1212 01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:26,840 a film rather than the sitcom. I don't know, you know, and 1213 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,880 there was obviously some light in a bottle going on with it. 1214 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,120 And I'm not decrying it by saying I don't understand the 1215 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,520 grip of because it's yeah. I mean it's. 1216 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:38,200 A beautifully made program and Bill Patwis great and you know, 1217 01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:43,760 Frank thingy the the man with a current Frank Williams is great. 1218 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,000 You know, it's all, it's all superb. 1219 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,120 We up to #5 Oh wow. Getting there now, yeah. 1220 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,760 Getting, getting. The tension again to the dub get 1221 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,080 to the. #5. Is my nails. 1222 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,160 There's only 5, there's only 5 spaces left for nearest and 1223 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:00,080 dearest. Oh God, he's. 1224 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,240 Going to be so disappointed this. 1225 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:05,920 Bad, but there. That's the reason I'm doing 1226 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,160 this. This was the number six on the 1227 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,880 BBC chart. And, and and this was, I'm sad 1228 01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,040 to say, a big favorite of Mrs. Thatchers. 1229 01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:18,880 It is. Yes, Minister Stroke. 1230 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,960 Yes, Prime Minister. Yeah. 1231 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:25,440 Well, yeah, fair do. Tim Worthington, he this is one 1232 01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:29,760 of his favourites, He said. It had an ingenious set up which 1233 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,600 I'm not sure if ever quite seen in any other sitcom. 1234 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,560 It took the pompous men from the headlines that seemed to want an 1235 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,560 ever greater slice of your earnings and rightly held them 1236 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,400 up for ridicule, but also, crucially, took them and their 1237 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,920 responsibilities entirely seriously and showed that they 1238 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,800 weren't always right and they knew it. 1239 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,160 So discuss. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to 1240 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,040 make a controversial assertion here. 1241 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,280 Controversial. I don't think yes, Prime 1242 01:11:56,280 --> 01:12:00,840 Minister, is that really that compatible with Yes, Minister? 1243 01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,600 I think yes, Minister is fantastic. 1244 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,360 And I think yes, Prime Minister is all right because the dynamic 1245 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,880 is all wrong. And yes, Minister Humphrey is 1246 01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,760 the upper hand. And then, yes, Prime Minister 1247 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:22,160 Jim has the upper hand. And Humphrey all it's kind of is 1248 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,040 always on the back foot because if any time Jim hacker can 1249 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,720 overrule Humphrey, which he does on occasion as BS and yes, Prime 1250 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:35,240 Minister, then the it's a bit like having, you know, Superman 1251 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,120 in the film. Well, he's always going to win. 1252 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:38,680 There's nothing you can do to him. 1253 01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:43,320 So if the Prime Minister is because in the 1st and yes 1254 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:47,600 minister, you're constantly told the unseen Prime Minister, you 1255 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,320 know, the Prime Minister giveth from the Prime Minister taketh 1256 01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,800 away here. Then when Jim becomes Prime 1257 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,360 Minister, then the the the jeopardy is lost. 1258 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,560 But yes, Minister is a is a different animal and it and it 1259 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,600 deserves its place. Yeah, to be fair, most people, 1260 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,480 when they voted, they who voted yes minister. 1261 01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,240 That makes sense. So there was a, there was a 1262 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,280 small handful for Prime Minister as well. 1263 01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:18,160 But yeah, were you, were you fond of this donor? 1264 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,240 I was a bit young, it sort of passed me by, but I've seen it 1265 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:25,520 subsequently and I and it, it did make a star out of Nigel 1266 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,600 Hawthorne, didn't it? And it was very late on in his 1267 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:32,600 career and and then he had this incredible, sadly fairly brief 1268 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,920 film career afterwards. So it was just lovely to see an 1269 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,160 older actor who'd paid his dues in the theatre, you know, 1270 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,600 becoming successful. And yeah, it's, it is that 1271 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:49,160 interesting dynamic of, of, you know, who's really, you know, 1272 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,840 wagging, you know, the tail wagging the dog and all of that. 1273 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,920 But I have to admit it's slightly passed me by. 1274 01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,400 And also the knowing that Margaret Thatcher loved it kind 1275 01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,120 of put me off as well, which is terribly wrong because a lot of 1276 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,360 awful people like The Beatles and I love The Beatles. 1277 01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,000 So I'll give it another go. But. 1278 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:10,480 You know, you know, The thing is, I think Margaret Thatcher 1279 01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:13,640 liking it is entirely self-serving. 1280 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,040 Yes, because she had no sense of humour anyway, so she's. 1281 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,440 Told. By by an advisor to like it 1282 01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:22,320 maybe? Well, if she did, if she did 1283 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:27,360 watch it and she did like it and maybe she did, it just 1284 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,960 demonstrates to me that she's missed that. 1285 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,920 She missed the point because you could tell that she would like 1286 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:33,920 it because she would think, oh, that's where the civil service 1287 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,040 are like they're just topping us from doing what we're made to be 1288 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,360 doing. We would, you know, the 1289 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,960 politicians should be in charge and all that sort of shit, which 1290 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,960 is not, which is kind of not the point. 1291 01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,200 It's not that. It's not that Humphrey is always 1292 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:50,400 trying to stop Jim from doing things because it's just out of 1293 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,800 Vadnais. It's because he knows that the 1294 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,560 things that they're trying to do are disastrous. 1295 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,160 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the most detected. 1296 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:02,400 One and, but and but. Consequently, however, he has no 1297 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,720 imagination and never wants to do anything, because anything 1298 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,320 you do in government is a disaster. 1299 01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,440 Yeah, yeah, I suppose a bit like David Cameron liking saying he 1300 01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:15,440 liked The Smiths, isn't it? It's like you, you listen to the 1301 01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:17,400 lyrics. Have you entirely missed the 1302 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:21,840 point here? Didn't Johnny Marr forbid him 1303 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:22,640 from liking it? Oh. 1304 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:28,000 Of course I hope so. I think he did, so number #4 #18 1305 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,040 on the BBC chart is Red Dwarf. Oh, wow. 1306 01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:31,880 Right. Oh, wow. 1307 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,160 That's incredible. I didn't that that that. 1308 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:39,520 I mean, in a way that doesn't surprise me because I, you know, 1309 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:43,040 I've always been surprised when I used to go to like comic cons 1310 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:47,160 and things when I could still go, I was always surprised by 1311 01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:51,640 how Big Red Dwarf still was. So I'm not kind of not that 1312 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:56,800 surprised, but in a way, but in a personal taste, we are very 1313 01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,000 surprised because it's I never thought it was that great. 1314 01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,080 Yeah, I was never a fan particularly of Red Dwarf. 1315 01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:08,840 I'm not a sci-fi kind of guy, Molly Mcdade, former guest. 1316 01:16:09,480 --> 01:16:12,240 She says while it's in some ways a parody of science fiction 1317 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,120 tropes, they take those elements and twist them into being 1318 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,560 uniquely silly, while also finding occasional moments of 1319 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:25,240 poignancy in the characters. And I don't it's, again, is it 1320 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,400 like one of those sitcom families where you've got the 1321 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,400 mom and the dad and the kids? Yeah. 1322 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,720 But I think basically, yeah. And although. 1323 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,320 Yeah, yeah. The first couple of series I was 1324 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:39,040 a big fan of when it was first on because it was so unusual and 1325 01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,360 so different and I thought it was really great. 1326 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,800 And I loved Norman Lovett as the as Holly and all that sort of 1327 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,560 thing. Yeah, I thought it was great. 1328 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:51,600 But as it continued, and I think and this terrible thing to see 1329 01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,640 to suddenly get critical programs, the problem we got up 1330 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,480 the list. But I think it's sort of for me, 1331 01:16:57,480 --> 01:17:00,600 it just kind of disappeared up its own ass into its own 1332 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,600 mythology. And occasionally there would be 1333 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,920 episodes that broke out, you know, the I think probably the 1334 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,360 famously the Dwayne Deadly one, but I don't know, it kind of 1335 01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,720 lost me after a couple of series. 1336 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,440 But obviously it's very popular. That's great. 1337 01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:18,000 All right, so. We're up to we're up to the top 1338 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,520 three. Right where's police are going 1339 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:29,920 to land the window. #3 #3 is porridge. 1340 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,880 Oh, only #3 nice. Oh, I thought that might have 1341 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:39,720 made it. No, OK, there's two higher on it 1342 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,760 on this list. This was #7 on the BBC chart, 1343 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,000 which that seems rather low. Yeah, it does. 1344 01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,120 Yeah, you'd think it'd be top five, at least on the BBC chart. 1345 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,120 Both fans of porridge. Oh, take it, Yes. 1346 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,400 Love it. Love it. 1347 01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,960 It's a great, it's a great show. The film two way stretch was 1348 01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:06,000 clearly partly an inspiration on on Clement and Lafreni surely In 1349 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:10,760 fact, Richard Evans he said that taking inspiration from one of 1350 01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,320 Peter Sellers finest films paid off handsomely for Clement and 1351 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:17,120 Lafreni who produced 3 perfect series and one pretty good film. 1352 01:18:17,480 --> 01:18:20,800 It will always be my favorite of their impressive body of work 1353 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,920 and the film is is pretty pretty good films. 1354 01:18:26,440 --> 01:18:29,240 You can really see that actually two way stretch influence 1355 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:33,080 because Peter Sellers is so everything kind of spins around 1356 01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,320 him. He's so in the middle, isn't he? 1357 01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:40,120 He's so sort of calm and you know, Fletch is like you know, 1358 01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:44,720 he's he's quite centred and quite you know, and everything 1359 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,600 sort of spins off around him as well. 1360 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:52,520 So you. Can the Randolph Scott of and a 1361 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,960 bit of Bilko as well I think. Yes. 1362 01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,480 Yeah, and. Of course, the great the great 1363 01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:01,520 fact about it being that grouty. Oh yeah. 1364 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,840 Genial Harry grout appears in what, like 3 episode? 1365 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,600 Two, I was going to mention that he lives so large in it, doesn't 1366 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,040 he? And he's really in three. 1367 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,040 A total screen time of about 12 minutes. 1368 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:14,680 Yeah. I wonder. 1369 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,320 How? I wonder how Peter Vaughn felt 1370 01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:22,120 about that, having such a huge career, and yet that's the role 1371 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:25,280 that he probably is best remembered for. 1372 01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:30,000 I think probably now he's best remember for Game of Thrones and 1373 01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,600 for the modern age. But time bandits or type of 1374 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,840 course Time bandits at last. I can really cough. 1375 01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:47,760 But yeah, he, he, like you said, that he looms so large over the 1376 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,760 over everything. And but again, it's that, it's 1377 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,600 that. He's genuinely sinister, isn't 1378 01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:53,880 he? He's. 1379 01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,720 Yeah, yeah, he's he's. And especially in the film he's 1380 01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,800 you know where, where Philip Locke says I need my boil lunch, 1381 01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,760 I need my boil lunch. He says, well, if you don't, if 1382 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,840 you don't clear off, I love one of my lads. 1383 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,440 Do it. He's. 1384 01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,520 Really, genuinely scary. Yeah. 1385 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,960 But then there are other people that are in it that it becomes 1386 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,280 an it sort of becomes an ensemble and doesn't because it 1387 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,600 uses them, unlike it, as I say, with only four horses, uses them 1388 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,240 sparingly. So you Bunny Warren and 1389 01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:32,240 Blackjalk and Lukewarm and people that they are, but you 1390 01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,800 never feel that there's they're ever supposed to be anything but 1391 01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,040 supporting characters. Yeah, yeah, Sam Kelly. 1392 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,120 Sam Kelly was just wonderful. And Ronald Lazy and. 1393 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,120 Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah. And Ken Jones is horrible lives. 1394 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:50,120 Oh, I love Ken Jones. I I wish I'd written him a fan 1395 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,440 letter when he was alive. I love him. 1396 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,160 This is Ives horrible lives, aren't you? 1397 01:20:56,480 --> 01:21:01,240 If you say so, Mr. He apparently wanted to be in war but was too 1398 01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,120 busy. They wanted him and more of 1399 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,840 them, but he was he was too busy doing making the Wackers or. 1400 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:10,640 Something like the squirrels. Yeah, OK. 1401 01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:12,600 So. Mr. Barakov. 1402 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,680 We're up to the final two now. Listeners who have been taking 1403 01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,480 notes will have will have worked out that there's at least three 1404 01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,920 that haven't cropped up so far. OK. 1405 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,800 And we're down to the final 2. So which one? 1406 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:32,160 Price. Has been omitted, so #2 is 1407 01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,440 Fawlty Towers. Well, there you go. 1408 01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:41,920 I'm surprised it's two OK. Well, it was only #5 on the BBC 1409 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,720 chart as. Well, well, I have a. 1410 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,360 Feeling. I've got a feeling it's, it's in 1411 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,480 recent years it's it's had a bit of a resurgence in popularity 1412 01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,880 for some reason. I remember reading after 1413 01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:59,480 everything I saw documented and it was about sitcoms and it was 1414 01:21:59,480 --> 01:22:03,080 an American commentator made out. 1415 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,960 I think a really good point, which was in this particular 1416 01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,000 list that because it was in the early 2000s when everything was 1417 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,880 lists and the film Silver Show was further up than Fawlty 1418 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,200 Towers and, and they'd say, well, why is that? 1419 01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,920 And they said, well, the 12 episodes of Fawlty Towers are 1420 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:22,400 brilliant, but there was 126 brilliant episodes of the film 1421 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:26,880 Silver. And it's the, and it's funny how 1422 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,560 there's a, there's a perception, I think a difference in 1423 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,800 perception between Britain and America, where here it's 1424 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:37,760 perfectly fine to have only 12 episodes or, you know, 14 1425 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:41,240 episodes of sort of a brilliant show and it can be considered 1426 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,120 brilliant. Whereas in America, you know, 1427 01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:48,560 OK, but there was that's that's a failure, only having a dozen 1428 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,480 great episodes, which I don't think is what people here think. 1429 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,640 Enemy back-to-back to Faulty Towers. 1430 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,160 Back to faulty towers. Yeah, well, this. 1431 01:22:57,440 --> 01:23:00,840 Actually re watched the the Lord Melbury one the other day and 1432 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,880 absolutely love to go which I think sets up the characters so 1433 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,120 beautifully. You know, the, the, the the 1434 01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:11,280 sexless marriage between. I have to say my favorite 1435 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,960 episode is communication problems because I love John 1436 01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:18,280 Sanderson so much, who also isn't one of the best episodes 1437 01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,440 of Rising damp, the pink Carnations. 1438 01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,280 And what I love in pink Carnations and rising Damp is 1439 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,800 when you, because you know, when they mentioned the mother-in-law 1440 01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:29,720 and when she walks in the audience, actually go oh. 1441 01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:37,440 Yeah. But she's so great and and of 1442 01:23:37,440 --> 01:23:40,400 course, it's one of the most clipped bets, you know, between, 1443 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,280 you know, there's no Seaview. That is the Seaview. 1444 01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,000 Well, it's not good enough, you know, what were you expecting? 1445 01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,840 The The Hanging Gardens of Babylon. 1446 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,320 Sydney upper House. Send the operas herbs of 1447 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,320 wildebeest sweeping majestically. 1448 01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,880 It's. Like, irredeemingly horrible. 1449 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,000 And you know, it's just. An awful woman. 1450 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:07,120 And one of the things I'm always surprised myself, I like for 1451 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,160 just because I don't particularly like the comedy of 1452 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,920 embarrassment, because it makes me cringe. 1453 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,160 It makes me cringe. As they say though, it it, it 1454 01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,760 makes me embarrassed, which why, why I kind of went off the 1455 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,960 office eventually because people just being embarrassed in 1456 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:23,640 Cringewell at the time just winds me up. 1457 01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:28,240 But I I I don't mind it somehow in faulty towers because it's 1458 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,600 just so good. Yeah, mentioning obviously 1459 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:36,280 Prinella Scales passed away sadly recently and just her I I 1460 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,520 normally, I get really cross in like obituaries where, you know, 1461 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,160 people just focus on one character when somebody's like 1462 01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,640 spent there almost like a whole lifetime in the theatre and that 1463 01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,560 sort of gets forgotten. But I think it's entirely 1464 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,680 justified. Her creation of Civil is 1465 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,600 extraordinary. It's such an amazing character, 1466 01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,680 you know, her, her, just her size difference and how she 1467 01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:03,600 dominates him. And he flinches, you know, and 1468 01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,080 it's like when he kisses her. What was that? 1469 01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,440 I was just kissing your dear. He goes, oh, don't you know? 1470 01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:11,960 It's like one of my favourite bits is when Sybil's on the foe 1471 01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,120 and they're in bed and she's talking to Audrey, her friend 1472 01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,720 Audrey or whatever. She goes, oh, I know, I know. 1473 01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,800 And her buzzer just goes. Why is she telling you then? 1474 01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,760 That's why. My favorite line in the entire 1475 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,040 series. But that's what I was going to 1476 01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,320 say is what I think is really brave in the rating is that as 1477 01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:34,480 conventional thing would be that Basil is awful and you know, 1478 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:40,680 she's terribly several terribly put upon whether, but she's 1479 01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:44,440 awful as well. She's terrible. 1480 01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:49,200 And although she's nicer to the guests and that scene, it's that 1481 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,680 horrible thing where she's, she's putting her fingernail 1482 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,000 into chocolates to taste them and then taking them when she 1483 01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,320 doesn't like. Yeah. 1484 01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,400 And put them. It's just horrible. 1485 01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,640 Yeah. And she's she's and she 1486 01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:06,360 constantly embarrasses Basil, you know, in the in the Waldorf 1487 01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:11,600 salad episode where she's having her dinner, which is eating and 1488 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:16,120 smoking and Clear Nelson and Bruce Bola are great. 1489 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,840 You know. And she's and she's just making 1490 01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:25,440 fun of Basil and oh, it's just. Everybody's on a joke gourmet 1491 01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:27,320 night. Yes. 1492 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,200 Oh, absolutely. But she's like, you like a 1493 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:34,000 little hamster, aren't you? It's like, oh, the two of them 1494 01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,960 are dreadful. Yeah, yeah, awful. 1495 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,240 Yeah, but it's, and all the peripheral characters like the 1496 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:43,280 Major and the old ladies and and the moments of surreal comedy 1497 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,400 like at the end of the Lord Melbury episode, where I think 1498 01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:47,760 he just wants to kick him in the nuts. 1499 01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:53,040 Just give me one kick and. And the police officer says no, 1500 01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,000 Mr. Faulty and he just like shakes his fist at like a potty 1501 01:26:56,080 --> 01:27:00,400 plant. Or, and also one of the that's 1502 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,360 always surprised me as there's one of the one of the best 1503 01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:08,160 performances in it that's never crops up in clips or, or or or 1504 01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,280 programs about it is Bernard Cribbins. 1505 01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:14,200 Oh yeah, what an annoying asshole he's. 1506 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,760 Brilliant. Oh, he's so great. 1507 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,320 And what this this is? This tells you the sheer genius 1508 01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:21,440 of the writing in the production. 1509 01:27:21,440 --> 01:27:23,960 Yeah, yeah. When I can't remember his 1510 01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,200 character, when his name, whatever his name is, when he 1511 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:33,400 beats up Basil, the audience are in hysterics. 1512 01:27:33,480 --> 01:27:35,040 Yeah. Because he has behaved 1513 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,040 dreadfully to him even though he's a Pope is twat. 1514 01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,320 Yeah. But then at the end when he 1515 01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:43,040 finds out it's the hotel inspectors, when he just makes 1516 01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:51,120 spoons, and then he snubs custard pies and cut and pours 1517 01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,320 cream into his back and kicks him out the door, the audience 1518 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:58,000 cheer that as well. Yeah. 1519 01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:02,080 Yeah, you don't mind. You don't mind who gets it as 1520 01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,520 long as somebody gets it. But harking back Tyler to like 1521 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:09,320 how dads and stuff, I whenever I because my dad is no longer with 1522 01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:13,600 me, whenever I watch it now, I can hear my dad laughing at all 1523 01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,480 the spots where he found, you know, hysterically funny. 1524 01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:20,240 And I find I find that really comforting in a weird way. 1525 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,080 It's there's such an emotional pool with a lot of these sitcoms 1526 01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:27,680 because it is about, you know, people that are no longer here, 1527 01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,640 you know, enjoying them with those people. 1528 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,000 Oh, I can, I can remember vividly watching Basil the Rat 1529 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,600 for the first time. And we're this big house that we 1530 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:39,880 bought and it was a disaster. And we were at a little sitting 1531 01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,720 room in the back and we were trying to do it up and we were 1532 01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,840 late having tea for us, you know, like 9:00 at night because 1533 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,120 we were doing all this work. And we watched Basil the Rat. 1534 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,160 And I remember my mum laughing like a drain at it. 1535 01:28:51,440 --> 01:28:52,960 I know. But my mum doesn't laugh out 1536 01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,400 loud very much. You know, I'm not saying she 1537 01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:57,560 doesn't laugh, but, you know, like helplessly laughing. 1538 01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:02,720 And just when the the rap pops up and the biscuit and then tons 1539 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:07,320 and looks at them, yeah, it's just for a magical moment. 1540 01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,520 That was just great. You never forget that. 1541 01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,240 No. Good. 1542 01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,480 OK. So we are at the number one 1543 01:29:14,480 --> 01:29:16,920 point. Oh God, it's not, is it? 1544 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,080 I think. I know it more it might be. 1545 01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:25,920 It's it's all boys, isn't it? It's only. 1546 01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:30,600 Holden, James. It's it's only black adder. 1547 01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:35,320 It's exter, really. All of them. 1548 01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:36,960 All of. That is a series. 1549 01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:40,640 In terms of where people specified favorite series, it 1550 01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:47,200 goes 2341. Is that is that best to worst or 1551 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,640 what's the? Best best to worst Yeah 2. 3410, 1552 01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:52,080 right. OK, that's interesting. 1553 01:29:52,440 --> 01:29:55,240 I like it because for me it's 3214. 1554 01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:57,920 In fact, I would rather not think about four at all. 1555 01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,440 Yeah, I kind of, I'm kind of with you there as well, 1556 01:30:00,440 --> 01:30:05,480 although, yeah, but blackout of the the, the second series is 1557 01:30:05,480 --> 01:30:08,800 for me outstanding. Yeah, I really enjoy series 1 as 1558 01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:12,080 well. See see Series 3 is my absolute 1559 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:15,160 favorite by a long way. See, I don't like Prince George, 1560 01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:16,240 though. No, I see. 1561 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:17,760 I don't mind. That's just like, it's 1562 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:19,720 fantastic. I think all the stuff in the 1563 01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:23,800 kitchen, again, will unremark jokes like Baldrick's always got 1564 01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:29,400 a massive pile of vegetables to cut or a huge pile of the war 1565 01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,040 that he's needing, completely unremarked. 1566 01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:34,520 It's all that stuff that absolutely kills me. 1567 01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I do like the tea sequence 1568 01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,000 as well with the Duke of Wellington, you know, just out, 1569 01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,480 out slapstick with him, kiss, kicking him up the arse, you 1570 01:30:43,480 --> 01:30:44,560 know? Yeah, of. 1571 01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,360 India. Yeah, Salon. 1572 01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:54,160 I for me though, I think the greatest episode of Blackadder 1573 01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:58,920 from any series is beer from series 2 with really Lady White 1574 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,880 Adder Miriam Margulies is. Just. 1575 01:31:02,440 --> 01:31:05,400 Sublime. And she's also the Spanish 1576 01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:08,880 infanter in the first series. Yeah, with Jim Broadbent is 1577 01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,200 remarkable. So let's know. 1578 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,400 Again, please. Again, please. 1579 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:19,680 Yeah. I mean, I do love the first. 1580 01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:23,120 I remember I vividly remember watching the first season when 1581 01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,120 they went out and because it was so different from everything 1582 01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:30,800 else and they and absolutely loving it and I loved series 2 1583 01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,360 when it came out. And but three, my favorite 1584 01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:37,160 episode ever is the is the dictionary episode from 1585 01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,240 Blackadder the Third Wizard. Brilliant. 1586 01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,640 That's the probably the most quotable for me as well. 1587 01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:47,960 Yeah. Yeah, Ian from Lord of Adidas 1588 01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:51,400 Black podcast, which of which on which I have been a guest. 1589 01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,720 He's obviously biased, but he says as far as I'm concerned, 1590 01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:58,040 Blackadder is right at the top of the very tall tree that is 1591 01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,480 British TV comedy. It's it's the fabulous scripts 1592 01:32:01,480 --> 01:32:04,400 by Curtis and Elton which were then refined or plump and, as 1593 01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,720 they called it, and performed by a hugely talented ensemble at 1594 01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:10,200 the top of their game. And then you have a brilliant 1595 01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:13,400 yet unfailingly generous lead actor in Rowan Atkinson who 1596 01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:16,600 allows everyone to shine. And always John Lloyd's firm 1597 01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:20,240 hand on the tiller. Oh, and a healthy dose of knob 1598 01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,960 gags. I think the, the joke rate is so 1599 01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:28,280 high in each episode, you know, when it hits it's stride after 1600 01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,280 the first series. I mean, I, I'm also quite fond 1601 01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:32,520 of the first series because it's got Peter Cook in it, you know, 1602 01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,360 and Brian Blessed being so over the top. 1603 01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:39,720 It's brilliant. But the gag rate is so high in 1604 01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:42,240 each episode from series 2 onwards. 1605 01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:43,600 It's. Incredible, I think. 1606 01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:48,680 I think also I've got a soft spot for it because it uses such 1607 01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:53,400 great actors and support with actors that you wouldn't 1608 01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:57,000 associate with alternative, you know, comedy at the time. 1609 01:32:57,720 --> 01:32:59,520 You know they can the actors when they black out of the thug 1610 01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,720 with Hugh Paddock and and kind of corners. 1611 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:04,000 Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. 1612 01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:05,400 Who? Who are potatoes? 1613 01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:10,080 Orthestools squeezed. To be when they're doing the 1614 01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:14,600 little scene, just them with Baldrick, it just appears the 1615 01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:18,400 background where they're they're they're rehearsing the play. 1616 01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:21,240 Yes. And they're so great. 1617 01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:25,680 And it's the it's the, it's the use of people that are so great 1618 01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:30,440 that I love and it as well. It's a it's a thing that I 1619 01:33:30,440 --> 01:33:33,520 always love French and Saunders for as well, because of for all 1620 01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:35,680 the talk about of other people's talk about always. 1621 01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:36,800 I'll tell them Commodore once and all. 1622 01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:38,240 I don't like them because they'll tend to comedy. 1623 01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:42,800 Actually, it's a straightforward old fashioned almost variety of 1624 01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:46,360 usual with with with just the best people that are the 1625 01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,080 funniest people. How can you not love people who 1626 01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:53,480 do a Phantom Maintenance parody with John Inman and Dusty Ben? 1627 01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,520 I, I think my favorite Blackadder is probably the, you 1628 01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:04,120 know, when Blackadder falls in love with Bob because it's also 1629 01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,600 got a flash heart, the first appearance of flash heart as 1630 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:09,320 well. And and and Tim McInerney, you 1631 01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:17,080 know, Percy seducing Baldrick. Yeah, when he comes in and he's 1632 01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:22,080 smiling and like, yeah. What an unusual perfume. 1633 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:26,200 Yeah. It's so fun. 1634 01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:30,360 And I also every, every night, there's every, every election 1635 01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:33,640 night, every general election night, I always first watch the 1636 01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:37,040 election episode of Black Eyed the Thumb with Vincent Hannah. 1637 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,560 And Jeff, Jeff Mcgiven as well. And what does the S stand for? 1638 01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:43,600 Sort of. Well, none of my business. 1639 01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:50,560 Now what's the big elephant in the room? 1640 01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,640 Only Fools and Horses wasn't. Yeah, I'm not surprised. 1641 01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,000 I'm not surprised. You're not? 1642 01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,320 No. It did go on far too long. 1643 01:34:58,320 --> 01:34:59,760 They should have finished it, you know. 1644 01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,640 Well, the problem I had with Only Fools and Horses was 1645 01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:07,480 eventually it's when it it it became in the 90s, it changed to 1646 01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:13,440 or the late 80s, early 90s it it turned into a soap opera and 1647 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,840 it's, it became a drama. It became a comedy drama and 1648 01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:20,520 that sort of a late period John Sullivan, you know, but what's 1649 01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,440 the other one you did about the taxi from Oh, can't remember. 1650 01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:30,160 Roger, Roger, Roger, Roger. And it, it also had prior to 1651 01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:35,320 that, you know, if Boise turned up or Mickey or whatever, it was 1652 01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:36,920 a little bonus. You're like, oh, it's an episode 1653 01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:39,640 of Boise or Marlene or whatever. And then it became the word in 1654 01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:41,880 every episode. Yeah, yeah. 1655 01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:43,240 Yeah. And you're like, well, this. 1656 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:47,560 Well, really. And the word, I mean, there was 1657 01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:49,960 don't get me wrong, they were still stand out because it 1658 01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:55,280 became this arc of, you know, Cassandra and Rodney and all 1659 01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,160 this sort of thing. And there were still standard 1660 01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,400 episodes at the time. Obviously the one with with the 1661 01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:02,840 inflatable dolls was a completely was on. 1662 01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:05,480 And they were funny because they were on for me because they were 1663 01:36:05,480 --> 01:36:09,720 unrelated to this ongoing drama. And then, you know, when they 1664 01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:14,160 actually become millionaires, you know, fine, fine, OK. 1665 01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,840 But it was, I mean, I'm not saying it was the word, still 1666 01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:19,800 funny moments that was brilliantly acted and all that. 1667 01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:24,240 But it became popular way out of proportion, I think than it 1668 01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:27,240 ought to have been. Ironically, when it then after 1669 01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:30,560 they said it was never going to come back after they got rich, 1670 01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:35,400 you know, when it did come back, it was much better for the two 1671 01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,720 or three episodes because it was back to what it should have 1672 01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:42,600 been, which was them struggling because they don't want to see 1673 01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,880 them being rich and having problems being rich. 1674 01:36:45,480 --> 01:36:49,880 But early on when it's when it's about, you know, struggling 1675 01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,160 people trying to get by doing what they can't, you know, and 1676 01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,200 that's all great. Everybody can associate with 1677 01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,160 that and it's funny and the comedy comes from that. 1678 01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:58,800 But then it became a completely different thing. 1679 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,440 And The thing is, it changed with people obviously, because 1680 01:37:01,440 --> 01:37:04,360 it became so inordinately massive. 1681 01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:09,040 But I don't, as we've seen, I just don't think it it had the 1682 01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:12,480 the legs that the earlier CDs would have done if it stopped 1683 01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:15,520 there. I think if I hadn't changed, it 1684 01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,080 would have become maybe like Citizen Smith and being 1685 01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,720 something really popular that people loved and looked back on 1686 01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,560 and know this cultural phenomena that it became. 1687 01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:27,280 Sort of went on a bit too long. It, yeah. 1688 01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:30,280 So when I started doing this, compiling this list, it was very 1689 01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,680 noticeable by its absence in terms of people not nominating 1690 01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:37,360 it. Yeah, as it is, it was number. 1691 01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,720 It was the 25th most popular. Well, almost. 1692 01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:45,200 OK. Ahead of it, Allo Allo still 1693 01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:47,520 game ever decreasing circles and dinner ladies. 1694 01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:53,440 Dinner ladies is great, yeah. So from the BBC list, the top 20 1695 01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:58,320 BBC list, Absolutely Fabulous and the Royal family were were 1696 01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:04,560 both in that top 20. I only got 1 vote each for those 1697 01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:12,280 and #3 in the BBC chart was the Vicar of Dibley got no votes at 1698 01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:15,360 all. That seems to have been 1699 01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:18,880 forgotten largely, hasn't it? Well, it's another one of those 1700 01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,920 shows, I think, that was completely of its time. 1701 01:38:22,480 --> 01:38:27,840 In the same way that don't we or on the buses or something. 1702 01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:31,040 I'm not a queen, the style, but they were all of the time. 1703 01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:33,640 Yeah. Well, and interestingly there 1704 01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:38,200 was there was 73 sitcoms were nominated in total for this. 1705 01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:43,680 OK. And George and Mildred are you 1706 01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:47,560 being served the Office? They they had a respectable 1707 01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,200 showing if you like. There was also unusual ones like 1708 01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:53,360 Nightingales. Is it legal? 1709 01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:57,120 Come back Mrs. Noah, not your Nelly. 1710 01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:03,800 Not sure who nominated that one. And and yes my dear, even tell 1711 01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:06,880 you what didn't get any nominations as well, which seems 1712 01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:10,720 to have been forgotten. Phoenix Knights, early duos, 1713 01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:14,880 Extras and my family which were huge, hugely popular. 1714 01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:18,320 No one voted for any of those. Well, I'm not surprised. 1715 01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,480 With my family, it was shit. Well, that's true, yeah. 1716 01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,760 That's dreadful, but that's true. 1717 01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:25,680 Phoenix Nights. Yeah, that is surprising. 1718 01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:27,400 That didn't get any votes. Yeah. 1719 01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:32,640 OK, well I have tested your bladders far too long. 1720 01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:36,640 Thank you both for joining me. Too. 1721 01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:39,080 Nearest and Dearest is the best sitcom that was ever made. 1722 01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:40,600 I don't fucking care what any you say. 1723 01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:50,200 It would be fine, except it's got Hilda Baker in it. 1724 01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:50,960 Oh. Fuck off. 1725 01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:59,600 And on that bombshell, Donna and and and Chris, thank you both 1726 01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:01,720 for your input and it's been marvelous. 1727 01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,280 Happy New Year. Happy New Year.