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All right, lads, let's get these
out the way and lose those. 

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Now wait a minute. 
What are you doing? 

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I'm trying to keep us all out. 
The rattle. 

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That's what happened. 
Oh, but look, I had 17 and he 

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turned up. 
Will you listen to me? 

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Any second now, through that 
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command and officer of HMS 
Barclay. 

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No. 
Yes. 

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So you better look lively and 
get everything ready for him. 

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What do I do about my goods? 
How many have got 12 half 

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painted. 
Back them down. 

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Put an office on the door. 
Keep out rabies, lurgy, anything

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you like. 
The. 

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Hello and welcome to Goon Pod, 
All aboard the podcast, which is

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leakier than a mothballed Sloop 
with more fiddles than boozy and

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Hawks. 
And my guest this week, allow me

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to pipe you aboard. 
It's Rear Admiral Graham 

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Rinaldi. 
Rear Admiral, you had to make me

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a rear. 
Admiral. 

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All right, Vice Admiral, then. 
Oh. 

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Dear. 
Is there a vice? 

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Admiral we're we're talking 
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1950s, not some some 1970s 
British sex comedy, although 

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well. 
What I'll what I'll do is when I

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when I'm editing this, I will, I
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swanny whistle when. 
I say that. 

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Oh, good. 
Yes. 

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Can you play the kazoo as well? 
Yes. 

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I once had to play a kazoo I 
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not weeks before he died. 
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I'm sorry having a clue at the 
the Lowry Fairy in Salford and 

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got to take part in the Swanee 
Kazoo round. 

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You actually got to take part in
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Oh no, the the whole audience, 
did they? 

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I was going to say. 
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We came back in and each on each
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And I'm and I'm always one 
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those dread words. 
Audience participation 

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generally, but it was all right.
I've played the kazoo at a 

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Goldfrap concert. 
Really. 

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Yeah, but I'm in the audience. 
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everyone's seat at the at the 
Royal Festival Hall, and there 

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was a particular song that you 
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along with Alison Goldfrapp. 
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she probably couldn't hear me. 
So I was. 

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That was fine. 
OK, Graham, so good to have you 

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back because it's the third time
I believe. 

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Third time I'm lucky for your 
listeners, yes. 

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Yes, from memory, the first time
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a Peter Sellers film, and the 
second time you came was to talk

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about a Peter Sellers film. 
But but this week you've come to

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talk about a Peter Sellers film.
Yes, yes, just don't shake him 

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off. 
No. 

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So it was after the Fox, wrong 
arm of the law. 

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And today we're going to talk 
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known Sellers film. 
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Still, still very charming. 
It's it's the 1958 black and 

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white comedy Up the Creek. 
There's no sleep for the wicked,

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My land. 
Go and see Chubby. 

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Get a ruler and measure the 
lieutenant's boot. 

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Does he wear boots? 
Not his boat boot. 

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His car boot. 
What a bunch of Charles. 

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You don't think you're going to 
lend us his car to your boots? 

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Lend it to us. 
He's going to drive it for us. 

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Are you kidding? 
I'm not kidding. 

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If we can get into the village 
just once today, we can make all

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our deliveries. 
What do you think you're doing? 

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Listening. 
Listening. 

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You're supposed to be measuring.
Go on, get coconet. 

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Go on. 
Go on, go on. 

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Cripes me pies. 
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Now, if you worried more about 
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worrying yourself all the time 
about what I'm doing. 

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They're a bit small, aren't 
they? 

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I'm getting a bit short of 
filling. 

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Well, why don't you tell me 
about these things? 

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You don't have to keep it a 
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Well, in den for some more 
sides. 

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I mean, it's simple. 
Hey, Bose, what's going to 

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happen to us when they find out 
down at the base that we haven't

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got a full crew on board? 
That's a very long sentence, and

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that's probably what you'll get 
on Wikipedia. 

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It says it was released in May 
1958, but Ed sick off in Mr. 

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Strangelove the the seller's 
biography suggests that it was 

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released in early November 1958.
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is, is that further up the 
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sequel began filming on the 19th
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after Up the Creek was released.
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And that was released further up
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October of 1958. 
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Well, Ed, Ed Sikkov, his 
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So it was released. 
So we're looking at early May 58

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that Up the Creek Coming Out, 
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legendary Val Guest and written 
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Heath and John Warren. 
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two men who collaborated, I 
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films such as Two Way Stretch 
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of the Law. 
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Have you? 
Life is a Circus, also directed 

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by Val Guest, a crazy gang film.
Have you ever seen the Operation

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Snatch? 
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podcast a few times just in 
order to snigger. 

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I really want to see it because,
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it, and then I gather it's set 
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involved. 
And I'm also going to throw this

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one at you as well. 
Rotten to the core. 

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Oh, I've seen that with Anton 
Rogers, yes. 

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And Anton? 
Eric Sykes, I think. 

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Is that right? 
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Sutton, but I I I want to come 
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we talk when we talk about Val 
guests or shall we say recycling

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material for up the Creek. 
I'll I'll come back to rotten to

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the core as well. 
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imagine, I imagine that you put 
because you you like British 

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comedies of the 19 film comedies
in the 1970s, yes. 

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Would that be the case? 
Yes. 

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No, Well, I'm just nearest and 
dearest. 

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Can I qualify that? 
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sex comedies, you know, the 
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plumber's mate and and the like?
Not not those particularly, but,

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but generally yes. 
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Oh you are awful. 
Oh, you're awful, which I which 

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I'm quite fond of and we are 
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on Goon Pod Film Club. 
Quick plug there. 

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There's a very good plug. 
Yes, I'm, I'm going to be joined

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by former guests Jeremy Lim and 
Paul Litchfield. 

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And we're going to be talking 
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film in which I which I remember
there's a scene where he is 

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trying to isn't a, he's dressed 
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himself off as a policewoman and
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a lot of sleeping police women's
derrieres. 

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Isn't isn't that part of the 
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Tattoos with buttocks, yes. 
Yes, Yes. 

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No, it's not just, it's not an 
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is part of the plot. 
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that at some point next year. 
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and John Warren wrote that, did 
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I think it may have been just 
Len Heath. 

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Don't quote me on that though, 
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two of them wrote for Dick 
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mentioned them, Mike and Bernie 
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And but Len Heath did create a 
character that is still popular 

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to this day. 
And you can now have your own 

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Playmobil character of this 
particular character. 

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You can now Playmobil have made 
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Oh, OK. 
Is it some? 

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Is it a character from I don't 
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Is it from Doctor Who? 
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advert commercial. 
Oh, television commercial. 

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Wasn't the the smash aliens was 
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Before the smash aliens. 
Before the smash aliens. 

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Go on, I give up. 
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Captain Bird's Eye Oh, so if you
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Bird's eye fish fingers and if 
you bought, I think the offer is

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now finished. 
But if you bought 2 packets of 

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mini bird's eye fish fingers you
sent, you could send your 

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receipts and they claim they 
would send you a limited edition

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Playmobil Captain Bird's. 
Oh wow. 

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So please feel free to edit all 
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No, I'm keeping it all in. 
It's nautical. 

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I suppose it's nautical. 
Of course it is. 

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It is nautical. 
It's very, very appropriate. 

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Now, John Warren getting back to
John Warren. 

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Yes, he turns up in this film, 
unless it's a different John 

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Warren. 
No, it's the same one. 

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It's the same John Warren 
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Is he, is he in, is he 
Australian? 

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Or is it just the voice he's 
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Whether we should we discuss 
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I mean because I'd like to speak
to you at some point about Peter

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Sellers Irish accent and see 
what your take on it is. 

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I'll tell you what, I'll tell 
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a moment, because before we 
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detail, yes, I think it's just 
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talk about Val Guest because 
what a career. 

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Well, of course he's, he's his 
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And I, I gather that came from 
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Italian Duke. 
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because, you know, even though 
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that his, his father told him 
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actually divorced. 
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until he was a teenager. 
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But it's, it's at the age of 16,
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at the I think it's the Asiatic 
Asiatic Petroleum Company in the

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accounts department. 
I gather that Val wasn't very 

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good at mathematics, but his 
mother had worked on the stage 

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as principal boy in lots of 
pantomimes and on his desk. 

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One day his boss walked past and
saw a copy of the stage 

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newspaper and said, oh, you're, 
you're interested in, in, you 

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know, in theatre. 
And he said, yes, yes. 

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And he said, right, I've got a 
job for you. 

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We all, every year we have a 
charity show and it's the 

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Alhambra Theatre in Leicester 
Square. 

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I want you to find the artists 
for the show. 

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So he did and he managed to. 
I don't know how he did, I don't

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know how he did it, but he 
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Ivan Novello and Ellis Shields 
of Burlington Bertie fame 

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appeared as well. 
So he wanted to be an actor. 

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He started auditioning and he 
was, he said he turned around to

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his father and said, I, I want 
to be an actor instead. 

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And he wanted to quit his job. 
And his father said, right, you 

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have one month to find an acting
job, otherwise you carry on 

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where you're working. 
So he went from 1 audition to 

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the next. 
And then in the end, he on the 

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same day that he was going for 
an audition for a, a play called

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Unholy Orders, which was written
by Arnold Ridley, Private 

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Godfrey, Dad's Army, the Ghost 
Train. 

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And on that very day, he was 
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interview for the RAF. 
And he went for the audition. 

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He got the job. 
And his first role on stage was 

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playing a village idiot. 
And so he taught in that and, 

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and also at the same time with a
friend of his called Ivan Keith,

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he became a songwriter for the 
Feldman Music Publishing 

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company. 
And he's wanted to do this. 

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So he had all these things going
on and he's, he thought, Oh my, 

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my father's not going to like 
all this. 

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So the best way to get away from
his father's sort of the wrath 

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of his father was to leave home.
And that's what he did because 

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it was it also coincided with 
this new contract with the 

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publishing company that that was
the day he was meant to join the

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RAF. 
So he went down the theatrical 

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route instead. 
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film, pictorial Picture goer, 
Film Weekly, interviewing people

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Mountains in 1932 to help on the
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Uncredited. 
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uncredited, working on the 
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Chando or Chando the Magician 
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Lugosi, and it was directed by a
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of if I couldn't write something
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tied behind my back, I would get
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Marcel Varnell read the review, 
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said I'd like to see your I'd 
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So Val Guest was told to go down
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Marcel Varnell. 
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apologised to him straight away.
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like what you write. 
I like the bikes that you have. 

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Richard Hearn, Mr. Pastry in it 
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said you're coming with me. 
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Gainsborough on 25 lbs a week. 
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script writing department along 
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everyone's probably heard of 
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Marriott Edgar wrote the Stanley
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the Line or Leinen Albert and 
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not going to do that. 
I know you've written a book 

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about Wil Hay. 
Yes, I have written a book about

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Wil Hay because literally you, 
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sleep now and I'll just keep 
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I'm just looking at, I'm looking
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Well, there's some cram films in

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there. 
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great films in there. 
The the runaway bus that's. 

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I said there were some great 
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That's Frankie Howard. 
It's all right. 

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It's Frankie Howard. 
It's. 

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All right. 
Hello. 

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I won't be home till late 
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Yeah, a job, dear work. 
You know what Grandpa never did?

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Oh, there's a cottage pie in the
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A cottage pie? 
Oh, let us come over. 

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Can you hear me now? 
How'd it do? 

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Look, dear, don't wait up for me
because I'm going to be late. 

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No, no, dear, I'm not going out 
with a girl. 

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I'm going out with a coach. 
A coach? 

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You know, a big thing on four 
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No, not the girl. 
Look, I I must go now, dear. 

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There's a woodpecker tabby at 
the window. 

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Yes. 
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Yeah, full idea. 
Well, keep warm. 

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Yes, we'll get in the get in the
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He did a film version of Life 
with the Lions. 

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Yep, that was a that was a 
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But Just this Up the Creek is a 
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The the Quatermass experiment, 
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Quatermass 2. 
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Carry on, Admiral, which is not 
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Cannon. 
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the camp on Blood Island, which 
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the other week, actually. 
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that was in the when Up the 
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Pavilion and Up the Creek was on
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successes, huge box office 
successes. 

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actually been apart from each 
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maybe, you know, I, I, I, I'd 
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been, you know, over the months,
if they'd been apart from each 

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other. 
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and another great Val Guest 
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also a hammer release as well, 
which is a an actor I know that 

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you you you love and I I love 
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film. 
Yes, oh, yesterday's enemy. 

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Yes, yesterday's enemy. 
Yeah, I love that film. 

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I've seen that a couple of 
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going to spoil. 
Yes, I'm going to spoil it for 

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anyone. 
Yes, it doesn't go, it doesn't 

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go the way you think. 
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would go and then of course, we 
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Stanley Baker again, which is a 
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Manchester. 
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know, other films such as 
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Earth Caught Fire, Jigsaw, which
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Jack Warner, 80,000 Suspects 
with Claire Bloom, Richard 

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Johnson shot in Bath. 
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the end of his career and the AU
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Window Cleaner. 
It's of those, yeah. 

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It's an eclectic. 
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through his filmography, it's so
eclectic. 

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Oh, it is because I mean, of 
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previously, relatively recently 
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he was involved with. 
Casino Royale He was attached to

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it, he kind. 
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wasn't he, didn't he? 
To sort of do all the link? 

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Tried to link the story 
together, yes. 

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Yes, yes, yes. 
And he did it. 

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He did the best he could. 
He did the best that he would 

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could. 
I think really. 

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But I'm looking at I'm looking 
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looking at what he's written as 
well. 

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Because of course he he directed
The Boys in Blue, which parks 

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back to ask a policeman. 
It does. 

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I'll just leave it there. 
OK, OK, so so there we go. 

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So For more information on Val 
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there's some. 
Well, there's his autobiography,

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but some of it's very hazy 
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the Creek, some of it doesn't 
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further up the Creek. 
OK. 

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But he was, you know, he, he, I 
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his late 80s. 
I may be wrong there. 

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Hang on, let's have a look. 
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Born in 1913. 
It was about 2005 two. 1006 he 

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was 9494. 
He was great to me with my book.

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He was. 
Oh. 

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Right. 
So helpful. 

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Oh, very helpful, very helpful. 
And I, I met him a couple of 

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times. 
He used to send me faxes. 

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I mean, he was. 
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the blue plaque was unveiled at 
Will Hay's house in Norbury, 

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which will, which is the house 
in the back garden where Wil Hay

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spotted a spot, a white spot on 
Saturn. 

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And of course that became news 
all over the world. 

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He a blue plaque was unveiled 
which was organised by the Grand

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Order of Water Rats, which Will 
Hay was a member of and Roy Hudd

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was the master of ceremonies. 
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write a speech for that event. 
Unfortunately I had to be the 

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person to read it out so but but
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So Val was very, very happy to 
do things like that and I, I met

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him a couple of times as well in
person, so. 

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Very helpful, very good. 
So yes, so obviously, as we say,

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this is directed and partly 
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Creek. 
I mentioned Ed Sikoff who wrote 

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the Sellers biography Mr. 
Strangelove and obviously Roger 

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Lewis is is a is a another 
famous biographer of Sellers. 

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Both both have pointed out that 
this film is kind of or seller's

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character in particular is kind 
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Bilko. 
Yes, because he he barks orders 

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quite a lot, doesn't he? 
I think. 

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So, but I because I interrupted 
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you wanted to talk about 
accents. 

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So yes, to go on. 
Well, I found an interview that 

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Val Guest gave, I think it's for
the sort of entertainment 

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history project in 1988 and he 
spoke about Sellers accent for 

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this particular film. 
Val Guest was a was a fan of Son

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of Fred. 
Yes. 

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She's about 1956, is that right?
Yes, it was. 

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Yep. 
Yep. 

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And it's it's actually here we 
go. 

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We're going on sort of like 
slight tangents. 

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So Val guest, mother-in-law, 
because Valges was married at 

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this point to Yolanda Donlon, 
American actress. 

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They were married for many, many
years and her mother was she was

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going back to California but she
was going to lease out her house

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or a flat Montague Square which 
is in Marylebone. 

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You love your Beatles 
connections. 

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I gather the Ringo Starr least a
house on the same Rd. 

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I think because there's a blue 
plaque for John Lennon. 

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Right. 
Because John let John and Yoko 

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live there for about 3 months. 
Oh yes, that's right. 

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When he when he moved out of, 
was it Kenwood where he was 

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living with Cynthia? 
Cynthia yes. 

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Ringo let him stay at his gaff. 
That's right, it's. 

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Amazing that you, you, you can 
live somewhere for about 3 

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months. 
And they put a blue plaque up. 

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So she said to Val Guest, she 
said, oh, there's a, there's a 

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young sort of comic actor, actor
who wants to lease the property.

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And he said who? 
And she said, oh, somebody 

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called Peter Sellers. 
And he said, oh, you must, He 

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seems quite good. 
So he was a fan of Peter 

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Sellers. 
But Val Guest kept but he sort 

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of talks about Up the Creek and 
he and he says that Sellers 

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hadn't played a role all the way
through a film through Up the 

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Creek. 
And I was thinking, well, you 

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know, there's Harry Robinson and
the Lady Killers in 1955. 

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Sonny McGregor in Naked Truth. 
Yes, and the smallest show on 

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Earth is is also before as well 
and Tom Thumb, I think he's 

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before so. 
Yeah. 

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So I mean, maybe just Val's, you
know, memory just sort of 

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playing tricks with him. 
So he said that Sellers, excuse 

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the pun, was on board for up the
Creek and they started 

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discussing what accent the 
character should have. 

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And I found that quite 
interesting because I thought 

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the I, I would have thought with
Val guess being a writer, that 

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the character would have been 
already sort of written with the

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sort. 
But he sort of said we were 

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discussing what sort of accent 
the character should have. 

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And we, we thought about Irish 
and he said well I, I may have 

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the right Irish accent for you. 
So he drove piece of Cellars to 

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the back of the Shaftesbury 
Theatre. 

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And behind the Shaftesbury 
Theatre in London was sort of 

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the names of Peabody tenements, 
apartments. 

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And there was a car park and it 
was run by a gentleman called 

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Paddy who was from The Who was 
vow guessed that he was known as

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the Uriah Heap of the Emirate 
Isles. 

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And all what Paddy would do is 
he would just would say full up,

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full up sort of thing. 
No room, no room. 

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Where's your contract, contract,
contract over and over again. 

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And he would get very angry with
people trying to park their cars

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in the car park. 
So he drove Sellers there and 

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they just parked. 
And then Val Gest got into 

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conversation with Paddy, Ted 
Baker, who was basically telling

446
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,720
him you can't park here. 
And then he just said to Peter 

447
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,400
Sellers, is that all right? 
And celis it? 

448
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,480
Yeah, that's fine. 
All right, he's got the clean 

449
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,200
and he's on his way. 
Oh, Fairweather, not the 

450
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,240
Admiral. 
Now, are all the fiddles out the

451
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,400
way? 
Yes, Right, right. 

452
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,560
Right. 
Now, Now, Now, here's what we 

453
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,600
do. 
Clean up and assemble on 

454
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,520
domestic duty. 
Lucky get that deal the way. 

455
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,400
Well, what are we going to do if
he doesn't get here? 

456
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,880
Oh, the Admiral. 
No, Fairweather. 

457
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:32,680
You see, these Admirals are 
funny people. 

458
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,240
When they come aboard, they 
expect to have an officer 

459
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,680
waiting to greet them. 
Well, that's his problem. 

460
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,880
Oh, there's gratitude for you. 
Last night you were scared to 

461
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,480
death when you're going to spend
the rest of your life in the 

462
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,360
rattle Here. 
The Lieutenant gives us a second

463
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,560
chance of the goodness of his 
heart, and you don't give a damn

464
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,080
if yourselves up the Creek. 
So Valger said that's where the 

465
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:53,680
accent for Docherty came from 
and then he also mentioned 

466
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,800
about, and I think Roger Lewis 
also mentioned about this. 

467
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:03,160
I may be wrong on that part that
Stella's was now using a reel to

468
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,800
reel to record the choices at 
home. 

469
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,240
Is that right? 
Yeah, he said he used to go 

470
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,080
knock about with this reel to 
reel tape recorder and he'd 

471
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,280
he'd, he'd sort of have an idea 
for an accent. 

472
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,160
He'd ad Lib for about an hour or
so, play it all back and choose 

473
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,920
what bits he liked. 
And then he'd focus on working 

474
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,840
that that particular bit with 
that particular accent. 

475
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,880
So we were talking, you know, 
we're talking about accents 

476
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,320
because it's interesting. 
Of course our our old friend 

477
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,080
David Lodge is in up the Creek 
and his character is called 

478
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,240
Scouse. 
Yes. 

479
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:45,520
There there is one moment. 
There's David Lodge, sound as 

480
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,440
though he's from Liverpool. 
He doesn't have a lot to say, 

481
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,080
really, Dave Lodge, does he? 
But what he does say doesn't 

482
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,480
sound he. 
Doesn't sound he sounds like 

483
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,600
David Lodge. 
So what do you think of, I mean,

484
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,760
what do you think of Sellers? 
Because I mean Sellers. 

485
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,120
I mean, as we know Sellers was 
was was was great with, you 

486
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:09,520
know, voices, especially, you 
know, with Doctor Strangelove. 

487
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,200
What what do you think of his 
Irish? 

488
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,160
Because what, what other 
characters did he play in films?

489
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,160
Does he play using an Irish 
accent? 

490
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:25,000
Well, he he, he as in the Naked 
Truth, he one of the disguises 

491
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,800
that Sonny McGregor adopts in 
order to try and get some 

492
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,520
explosives, secure some 
explosives. 

493
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,760
He disguised himself as an 
Irishman. 

494
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,720
Yes. 
With a very thick brogue and 

495
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:44,000
that that famous scene where he 
is propositioning a couple of 

496
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,840
what he deems to be IRA men in 
this. 

497
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,400
I'm in the pub. 
Yes, yes, yeah. 

498
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:58,160
He he ends up talking in Welsh 
and receives a punch up the 

499
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,240
throat basically. 
And he, you know, he's done 

500
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,280
Irish accents in the Goon Show. 
He did, he did a an impression 

501
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:12,960
of Brendan Behan on the LP Songs
for Swinging Cellars Hereafter 

502
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,880
Up the Creek. 
I was sort of momentarily 

503
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,080
surprised by Sellers when I 
first saw him in this because 

504
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,320
he's very chubby. 
Yeah. 

505
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,000
And I know that Sellers was 
chubby, but he kind of his 

506
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,720
weight kind of yo yoed in the 
50s, I think. 

507
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,800
And this, this period, of 
course, he was filming Tom Thumb

508
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,240
around the same time or soon 
after or soon before or before, 

509
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,800
I'm not quite sure. 
But it's it was either before or

510
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,400
after this film that he's 
filming Tom Thumb. 

511
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,880
And he's quite, he's quite hefty
in Tom Thumb as well, but he's 

512
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,640
quite chubby and he's got these 
silly little spectacles. 

513
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,360
And but I do, I totally buy him 
as an Irishman, as an Irish 

514
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,720
character. 
It doesn't, it doesn't to me. 

515
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,200
It doesn't sound like, you know,
Dick Emery, for example, doing 

516
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,360
an Irish character. 
But it's also interesting that 

517
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,680
they have his character when 
he's in his cabin listening to 

518
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,960
Irish music. 
And there's always even in the 

519
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,680
music for the film, there's that
sort of, you can hear the sort 

520
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,120
of jauntiness of Irish music. 
He sort of layered on a bit 

521
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,680
thick throughout with his 
character. 

522
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,480
I mean, I think his Irish, you 
know, the accent is good. 

523
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:35,280
But it's because I always, I 
always remember the fact that 

524
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,640
Michael Caine used to tell that 
story that his answer phone was 

525
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,120
Peter Sellers, it was Peter 
Sellers. 

526
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,520
So Michael Caine's answer phone 
was Peter Sellers doing an 

527
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,520
impression of Michael Caine. 
But isn't there? 

528
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,640
Is it maybe on Parkinson? 
Isn't there a television 

529
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,840
interview where you Sellers 
impersonates Michael Caine? 

530
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,200
Yeah. 
It's not very good. 

531
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,160
It's. 
Not very good. 

532
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,320
It's not very good at all. 
And I was thinking, how did 

533
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,680
people, how were people duped on
Michael Caine's answer phone 

534
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,200
thinking that was Michael Caine,
unless Peter Sellers was 

535
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,400
actually better at it at one 
point. 

536
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,440
I think when he was on form, he 
was untouchable in terms of his 

537
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,160
vocal dexterity and his the 
accents he could adopt. 

538
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,440
But when he wasn't particularly 
in the mood or the the muse 

539
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,920
hadn't taken him or he wasn't 
particularly inspired, he would 

540
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,560
drag his feet a little bit when 
it came to impressions and and 

541
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,880
voices and things like that. 
Because isn't the reason why he 

542
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:45,200
didn't play Major Kong? 
Yeah, Strangelove because he I 

543
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,920
mean, he pretended that he hurt 
his leg, didn't he? 

544
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,040
Or something? 
But it was, they say, that he 

545
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,040
couldn't master the accent. 
Yeah, the Texan accent, that's 

546
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,000
right. 
He plays an American character 

547
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,360
in the in a film. 
I think it's ATV film from 

548
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,240
maybe. 
Yeah, it was. 

549
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,320
I think it was. 
It certainly would have been 

550
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,200
within 12 months of filming 
Strangelove, and it's a film 

551
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,120
called A Carol for Another 
Christmas. 

552
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:19,760
Now they want to talk, talk, 
talk, talk, talk about our 

553
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,680
problems. 
They want to debate, debate, 

554
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:32,120
debate about solutions until 
somehow they get their problems 

555
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,440
solved. 
They want to waste our time. 

556
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,040
They want us to commit ourselves
to that kind of surrender. 

557
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,680
So he could, he could pull it 
off. 

558
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,840
I just think, I think with the 
with the major Kong thing each, 

559
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,800
I just think he was worried he 
was going to bite off more than 

560
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,800
he could chew really. 
And and I think it was probably 

561
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,120
a wise thing as well, wise move 
because the three characters he 

562
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,760
plays, with the possible 
exception of Strangelove 

563
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,680
himself, who is a bit of a 
caricature. 

564
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,480
I mean he's very good, but he's 
the other two are much more 

565
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,800
fully rounded, the other two 
characters I feel. 

566
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,680
Oh, the president and yes. 
And Mandrake. 

567
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:08,880
Mandrake. 
Yes. 

568
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,719
Still to this day, I I say that 
this string in my leg has gone. 

569
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,199
You were talking about an 
American accent. 

570
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:24,199
So when I know we're going off 
tangent here, kiss me stupid. 

571
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,040
That his heart attack film, 
shall I say heart attacks? 

572
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,760
I wonder what accent he was 
going to have in that particular

573
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,679
film. 
And he's and he certainly plays 

574
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:45,280
an American character in I Love 
You, LSB Tuckless from what, 

575
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,560
6768? 
So what? 

576
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:49,840
What about your? 
What about your? 

577
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,120
Hospital drama. 
Oh, I was just about to say, oh,

578
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,280
my dear, there's travesty, that 
is. 

579
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,160
But yeah, you know, in fact, 
thinking about it, I think he 

580
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,440
made more films where he did an 
American accent than not. 

581
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,280
Because you think being there, 
it's kind of OK being there is 

582
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,080
more sort of Stan Laurel, isn't 
it? 

583
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:10,840
But with an American twang to 
it, a hint of an American accent

584
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,600
there. 
So we have this. 

585
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,000
Shall I just briefly describe 
the plot of this slight? 

586
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,680
It's it's a, it's a fun but 
slight film up the Creek, isn't 

587
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,360
it? 
Let's let's be fair. 

588
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,400
So we have Lieutenant 
Fairweather, played by David 

589
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,440
Tomlinson. 
David Tomlinson, who would 

590
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,600
appear with Sellers in Sellers 
last film. 

591
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,840
In fact, it was also David 
Tomlinson's last film which was 

592
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,520
the fiendish plot of Doctor Fu 
Manchu. 

593
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:49,400
Which involves I gather that 
they have a reel to reel as was 

594
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,040
part of their friendship, wasn't
it? 

595
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:57,640
Yes, I gather Sellers bought one
for David Tomlinson on this film

596
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,680
and left him a note saying from 
a friend and then all the years 

597
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:08,760
later with Fu Manchu. 
He he said, I think it was about

598
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,880
he gave him another present and 
more, you know, technology 

599
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,640
agreed on. 
Yeah. 

600
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,040
And he said, I think you, I 
think you need to have an 

601
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:23,200
improved version. 
Yes, it's lovely, Lovely that 

602
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,000
you know, I mean, I guess it was
a kind of a friendship the two 

603
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,280
men had. 
But it hadn't. 

604
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,880
He did that thing of phoning him
in the middle of the night, sort

605
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,800
of. 
Yeah. 

606
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,600
Which he had AI mean. 
I think we touched upon this 

607
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:41,800
with when we were talking about 
his working and private 

608
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,720
relationship, friendship with 
Lionel Jeffries, because I think

609
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,560
with prisoner, prisoner Zender, 
he was sort of reaching out to 

610
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,640
Lionel Jeffries and. 
Yes, yeah, that's so. 

611
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,000
So it's again, because around 
that period of his, so towards 

612
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,360
the end of his seller's life, he
was always looking back, wasn't 

613
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,800
he? 
Yes, he was revisiting old homes

614
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,840
and getting very nostalgic and 
like you say, reaching out to 

615
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,320
people like Lionel Jeffries, who
and and Tomlinson, who, both of 

616
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,320
whom he'd worked with early on 
in his career when he was, you 

617
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,760
know, fledgling, fledgling 
actor. 

618
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,520
But he was still. 
So yeah, he was still relatively

619
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,000
young when he was doing this 
though. 

620
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,200
I. 
Mean he was 50 early 50s he 

621
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,040
wasn't he wasn't casting aside 
now he may have done in the 60s 

622
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,840
as he was you know when he was 
huge international superstar. 

623
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:42,000
He may have cast aside people 
then but by the 70s or the mid 

624
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,040
70s towards the end of his life 
he was re engaging with people. 

625
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,840
Wasn't he from his past trying 
to make peace almost, I suppose 

626
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:56,640
if you want to get deep. 
But but David Tomlinson, no. 

627
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:03,120
So he plays Lieutenant Humphrey 
Fairweather, who is a accident 

628
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:10,520
prone naval officer and he's got
this thing for rockets, which I,

629
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:15,160
I guess the the whole rocket 
subplot is just in order for him

630
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,800
to be posted to this, to this 
posted somewhere where he can 

631
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,880
cause no more trouble really. 
He's given command of this 

632
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:30,120
mothballed Sloop HMS Barclay, 
which has had no commanding 

633
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,120
officer for two or three years. 
And so he's posted off there. 

634
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,080
Now, the big right at the 
beginning of the film, we have 

635
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,920
Wilfred Hyde White. 
A little goes a long way with 

636
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,400
Wilfred Hyde White, I feel. 
Do you agree? 

637
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,200
Yes, he's wild. 
He's great in it, but he always 

638
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,560
is. 
Yeah, but he's always playing 

639
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,760
Wolford Hyde White, isn't he? 
There's never any rich. 

640
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,880
And I didn't, and I didn't pick 
up and I had to once the film 

641
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,520
had ended, I had to go back and 
watch, Rewatch the beginning. 

642
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,920
You've got Patrick Cargill in a 
small role right at the 

643
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,920
beginning. 
Well, actually. 

644
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,680
One of the funny for me, one of 
the funniest sort of throwaway 

645
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,120
lines is in that section with 
Patrick Cargill, because of 

646
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:21,880
course, David Thomason, one of 
his rockets went into Patrick 

647
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,360
Cargill's bath. 
My missile is attracted to the 

648
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,120
disturbance of water caused by 
an enemy ship's propeller. 

649
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,960
My house hasn't got a propeller 
exactly, so I can only assume 

650
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,040
that just as the rocket passed 
over the commander's house, some

651
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,400
sudden flash of water silent. 
I beg your pardon? 

652
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,440
There appears to have been a 
similar judgment with a fair 

653
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,040
weather map too. 
No Sir, that was quite 

654
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,240
different. 
There was a faulty electrical 

655
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:44,680
circuits and it seems to have 
changed the wavelength of every 

656
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,000
radio controlled rocket on the 
base, to say nothing of the 

657
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,840
Sutton Coalfield television 
transmitter. 

658
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,400
It might be a bad thing. 
Shut up. 

659
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,640
I beg your pardon? 
I mean, I don't want to 

660
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,120
necessarily go through the film 
in a in a linear fashion, but 

661
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,240
but we have this collection of 
characters that have been 

662
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,520
effectively running the. 
The mothballed HMS Barkley as a 

663
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,120
massive fiddle or series of 
fiddles. 

664
00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:16,200
So they're they're supplying the
local village with what chicken,

665
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,920
laundry service, cakes, all 
sorts of things. 

666
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:25,080
And they're very well thought of
by the by the villagers, the 

667
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,240
local publican in particular, 
Reginald Beckwith, who we talked

668
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:33,720
about recently in he was in a 
shot in the dark as the 

669
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,280
receptionist at the nudist 
colony Turk Thrust. 

670
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,200
Well, he was. 
Where Turk thrust, shall I say, 

671
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:49,360
hangs out. 
Absolutely, absolutely same kid.

672
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,960
Of course, the ubiquitous same 
kid turns up same kid again, 

673
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,000
very much in that sort of. 
I always associate him. 

674
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,920
And what's this guy's name? 
Victor Madden. 

675
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,280
Victor Madden? 
Yes. 

676
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,200
Yeah, They're very much the same
type, aren't they? 

677
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,840
I think Victor Madden sometimes 
had a bit more to do in films, 

678
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,800
which will come in when we come 
back to Rotten to the Core. 

679
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,520
When I bring it back to Rotten 
to the Core, Victor Madden is in

680
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,280
that film and he actually has a 
more prominent role. 

681
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,240
And anyway, they find out that, 
that, that Tomlinson, they've 

682
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:34,120
got a new CEO being posted. 
So they have to try and they 

683
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,280
have to try and carry on with 
these schemes and these scams. 

684
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,160
So it's not a scam. 
It's just money making operation

685
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,360
really. 
They have to try and continue it

686
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:49,920
under the nose of Tomlinson. 
And it's very difficult. 

687
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,960
It's, it's difficult to to talk 
a lot about this because it's 

688
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,480
just a series of sketches, 
really. 

689
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,680
You're not not even sketches. 
There's no, there's not a huge 

690
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,880
amount of plot, is there? 
There's. 

691
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,160
No, not Not a lot happens. 
Not a lot happens. 

692
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:09,560
And also the love interest kind 
of is never really developed 

693
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,880
it's. 
So you've got you've got Vera 

694
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,840
Day, who plays Lily, who gets 
quite top, not top billing, but 

695
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,200
she gets quite high billing, but
she's barely on the screen. 

696
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,800
Well, she, yeah, I mean, she'd 
been with Val Guest. 

697
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,400
She, I mean, she's also, she's 
been with Val Guest in quite a 

698
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,200
mass to. 
There's quite a few actors that 

699
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,640
have appeared in Val Guest films
previously. 

700
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:39,520
You like to use the same actors.
I was looking into the fact that

701
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:45,680
the UK, the British cinema in 
the 50s loved a nautical film. 

702
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:52,800
There are so many of them. 
Captain's Paradise up to the 

703
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,640
neck, which is Ronald Shiner. 
You know what sailors are. 

704
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,880
I don't know if you're a doctor 
at sea. 

705
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,120
Bogard and Brigitte Bardot, baby
in the battleship. 

706
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,720
Carry on, add more. 
Which of course is David 

707
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:12,360
Tomlinson. 
And it's because of Tomlinson 

708
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:17,000
that the film was given the go 
ahead because as Val Guest was 

709
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:22,640
taking the script around and he 
had Sellers on board, No, none 

710
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,320
of the studios didn't really 
want to take the film on. 

711
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:35,360
And then Jimmy Carreras Carrera 
of Hammer, he took a punt 

712
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,240
because he'd previously done so 
with previous Vale Guest films, 

713
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:41,160
Life with the Lions. 
And he said, OK, but you need a 

714
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,800
star. 
We can't just have Sellers and 

715
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,520
carry on. 
Admiral David Tomlinson was the 

716
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,920
lead and of course Peggy with 
Peggy Cummings in that 

717
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,160
particular film. 
So once Tomlinson was on, here 

718
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,440
comes that panic. 
Terrible Pan again on board as 

719
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,520
they the the green light was 
given. 

720
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,640
Again, apologies I'm I'm harking
back to previous Goon Pod 

721
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,040
episodes, but very recently we 
talked about the Goon Show 

722
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:13,320
episode The Evils of Bushy 
Spawn, which is famous in that 

723
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:19,200
it had a A rather ramshackle 
guest appearance by the actor AE

724
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,720
Matthews. 
Yeah, who's in? 

725
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,480
Carry on, Admiral. 
Who's in, Carry on, Admiral? 

726
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,800
There's a lovely the Goons and 
Matthews did a photo call and 

727
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,400
there was a audio recording made
of of the Goons talking to to AE

728
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,600
Matthews. 
It was before the recording of 

729
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,480
the show. 
AE Matthews is 88 by this point,

730
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,840
and he's a little bit befuddled,
and he's not quite sure what the

731
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,360
Hell's going on, you know? 
And they're trying their best to

732
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,560
be to to put him at his ease. 
OK. 

733
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,040
And he says something, I can't 
remember exactly what he says, 

734
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,000
but he says something like, I've
done a little bit of acting or 

735
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,120
something. 
And Harry Seacom says, oh, I 

736
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,600
should say so or something, 
Something like that, Right. 

737
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,840
And then you can hear very, very
faintly, you can hear Sellers 

738
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,680
saying, oh, you worked with 
Tomlinson. 

739
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,680
David Tomlinson. 
And it would have been around 

740
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,160
that time that Sellers was 
filming this David Tomlinson. 

741
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,600
I went I I've been on the 
pictures as. 

742
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,080
I. 
Was saying the British cinema we

743
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:34,240
loved, we seemed to in the 50s 
we loved a nautical film and I 

744
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:40,240
just think this sort of followed
on in that vein and it proved a 

745
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,200
huge box office success. 
The reviews on the whole are 

746
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:50,840
quite positive for the film. 
Sellers in particular get 

747
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:57,040
received really good reviews. 
If any if anyone was highlighted

748
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,880
in the reviews it was always 
it's always Peter Sellers and 

749
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,400
occasionally Tomlinson as well. 
Well. 

750
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,280
I think, I think Sellers does 
really well because obviously 

751
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,760
he's he's doing an accent which 
is quite a difficult accent and 

752
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,880
he and he's having to deliver 
dialogue at at quite a clip. 

753
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,440
I don't think he has many funny 
lines. 

754
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,120
No, I suppose not, but he 
mentions lurgy at one point, did

755
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,440
you notice that? 
He says he gets to say blue 

756
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,000
arsed flies as well. 
That's right. 

757
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,920
Yes, that's right. 
I mean, it's not, it's not going

758
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,280
to be the wrong arm of the law's
spare Dick at a wedding. 

759
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:44,480
But I'm talking, so we were 
talking. 

760
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:46,440
I think you've gone through the 
plot. 

761
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,680
But what kind of what do you 
think? 

762
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,760
The ending, the ending, the 
ending we need to talk about in 

763
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,320
a bit. 
But yeah, carry on. 

764
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,760
As I was mentioning, the sort of
love interest is it's just not 

765
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:03,760
developed at all really, because
initially you think, oh, it's 

766
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,400
going to be with Vera Day. 
And it's, it's amazing that they

767
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,000
have. 
There's that one moment in the 

768
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:16,280
pub where Sam Kidd spits out his
beer and it goes over Vera Day's

769
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,440
chest. 
So she has to dab her chest down

770
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,400
with, you know, a bar towel, 
which kind of makes you fixated,

771
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,400
makes your eyes turn towards her
chest. 

772
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,880
But then straight away, though, 
I said Lillian Sultan. 

773
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,040
Sultan appears. 
And I mean, she didn't. 

774
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:46,280
She didn't make very many films,
but she was in the camp on Blood

775
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,840
Island. 
Well, guest film, but there was 

776
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:58,400
a lot of female actors in the 
50s would come over and make 

777
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,360
British, you know, make British 
films. 

778
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,280
As I mentioned them just a 
moment ago, Brigitte Bardot in 

779
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,800
Doctorate Thee, the Claudio 
Cardenale is in, is in upstairs,

780
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:14,240
Downstairs, I think it's called.
Lisa Castone is in Blue Murder 

781
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,560
at Saint Trinians and I think 
there are more. 

782
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,240
There's a few French actresses 
come over as well. 

783
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,520
And I mean also she's very, 
she's quite far down the cast 

784
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,000
list as well for the most 
prominent female role. 

785
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,800
Absolutely, I couldn't work that
out very days barely in it and 

786
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,960
then she's she's the love 
interest. 

787
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,600
This. 
Sorry, what was her name again? 

788
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,720
Is it Lillian Sultan? 
My French is appalling. 

789
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,400
But no, you're absolutely right.
There's, there's, there's not 

790
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,440
convincing at all. 
There's no there's no simmering 

791
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,120
tension that crackling off the 
screen between David Tomlinson 

792
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,840
and her. 
But then of course in further up

793
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,120
the Creek, he ends up attracting
Shirley Eaton. 

794
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:03,440
So obviously Tomlinson had 
something before he went off to 

795
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:09,200
Walt Disney became rather more 
wholesome. 

796
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,800
It just, I just feel like the 
the love interest plot is just 

797
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,600
sort of thrown in but not really
developed because I just feel 

798
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,320
like a lot of the time the film 
meanders along. 

799
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,600
It is as you say, here's a 
here's a scene, here's a sketch,

800
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,120
here's another sketch, here's 
another sketch. 

801
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,000
And I mean, the film move, it 
does move along at quite a good 

802
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,800
pace, but I don't think there's 
enough laughs in the film. 

803
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,360
I don't think there's enough 
laugh out loud moments. 

804
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,520
It's not like nothing like two 
way stretch, which would be a 

805
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,600
few years later and. 
And wrong arm of the law. 

806
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,880
Yeah, more or less the same 
writing team. 

807
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,800
Yeah, I mean, the odd line comes
through. 

808
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:03,920
There's, I think there's a, 
there's a with Sellers and he 

809
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:09,800
says aphrodisiac rising from the
rising from the sea, aphrodisiac

810
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,640
rising. 
Oh, you see, I think that was 

811
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:16,360
brilliantly delivered. 
And I do like when David Thomas 

812
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:21,320
and discovers when he first goes
to the Pig and Whistle pub that 

813
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:26,280
the towels and the soap all have
the initials HMS on them. 

814
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:33,000
And when Sellers drops off the 
cigarettes to Reginald Beckwith 

815
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,960
and he says, oh, we didn't have 
time to roll them properly and 

816
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,680
of course they've all got HMS on
them. 

817
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,160
So he just says, oh, I'll call 
them homemade smokes. 

818
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:49,160
So it was a nice, a nice line. 
Of course that pub has appeared 

819
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:55,400
in it's in other films because 
the village where the Pig and 

820
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,080
whistle, the actual pub is the 
Three Horseshoes and it's in the

821
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:04,520
Lechmere Letchmore Heath, which 
is in Hertfordshire and in that 

822
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,960
village was used for the Village
of the Damned. 

823
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:15,240
Oh, right. 
And then about 6870, about 16 

824
00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:19,200
years later, Val Guest was back 
there for Confessions of a 

825
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:19,960
window cleaner. 
Oh. 

826
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:26,080
That was 70. 47474. 
Yeah, 75. 

827
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:32,360
Yeah, I think about 74 and the 
station which is Brick Bricket 

828
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,800
Wood, which apparently is 
between Watford Junction and 

829
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,640
Saint Albans Abbey. 
It's the same station that's in 

830
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:42,440
Knight of the Demon. 
Oh, I'm aware of it. 

831
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,680
I've never seen it. 
You need to see it, trust me. 

832
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,200
OK, all right. 
I need to see it. 

833
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,360
So it's interesting that, you 
know, it was set in, I would say

834
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,320
far Superior, not not 
Confessions of a Window Clean, 

835
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:01,600
but Village of the Tabbed and 
and nice nice of the Demon, Far 

836
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:07,680
Superior films to up the Creek. 
But I just feel that a lot of 

837
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,680
the time things are not really 
developed and it does take a 

838
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:16,360
while for Tomlinson to discover 
what's going on. 

839
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,040
And then when you think he's 
he's actually discovered what's 

840
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,160
going on, they've duped him 
again. 

841
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,680
And then it goes on and on and 
on. 

842
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,240
And then there's blackmail in 
place as well. 

843
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,480
I quite like the bit where 
because because again the the 

844
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,760
cast are largely misused or 
underused, I should say. 

845
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,520
Lionel Jeffries, who's in charge
of the chickens. 

846
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,160
His character is in charge of 
the chickens. 

847
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:48,640
He plays steady. 
I think the only major bit that 

848
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:53,320
he gets really is when he has to
peddle this sob story to 

849
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,440
Thomason's character to try and 
excuse he he's going to take the

850
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,320
rap for these schemes. 
Was it? 

851
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,560
It all started with my mother 
and also she kept getting on at 

852
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,160
my missus about how she married 
beneath her. 

853
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,520
She kept going on about her 
other daughter what had married 

854
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,400
a nappy canteen manager. 
Oh, yes, Alfred could always 

855
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,640
bring home the odd crate of 
butter or a gash of tea. 

856
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,960
Alfred had given his wife a 
Tele, Sir. 

857
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,920
And a fridge, Sir. 
But what had I ever given my 

858
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,400
missus? 
I will tell you. 

859
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:21,880
I'd give her 13 little ones to 
look after, But was that enough?

860
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,320
No. 
Every letter is nag. 

861
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,360
Every letter, Sir, is nag, nag, 
nag. 

862
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,920
Why don't I get more money? 
Why don't I get promoted? 

863
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:33,160
I'll keep telling them, Sir. 
I've spent all my last 18 years 

864
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,560
trying to stay as a naval 
seaman. 

865
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,080
But I don't mind, Sir, because I
love the Navy. 

866
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,440
You and the other officers, Sir,
have been like fathers to me. 

867
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,320
I never had a father, Sir. 
I see. 

868
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,280
Well, what you're trying to tell
me is you did all this for these

869
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,760
30 little barkers. 
Yes, Sir. 

870
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,440
Then. 
And the honour of the Navy. 

871
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,120
I couldn't have her mother going
around P bodybuilding saying 

872
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,160
that a man alone couldn't look 
after his wife and kids. 

873
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,680
Now, could I, Sir? 
You can't go right But gashing 

874
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:01,120
tea and flogging, selling eggs, 
barkers. 

875
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,920
I know, Sir, but I only needed 
another £5 so that I could get 

876
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,360
the furniture back. 
It was the thought of all those 

877
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,600
smiling little faces, Sir, all 
snuggled up in a real bed. 

878
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,680
I know I've done wrong so, but 
you can see how it was, can't 

879
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,880
you? 
Tomlinson hands him a fiver 

880
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,280
because he's so touched by the 
story, but then Seller's 

881
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,360
character Docherty just gloms it
off him. 

882
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,560
Yes, that's a very good word. 
It's difficult. 

883
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,600
Lionel Merton has a little bit 
more to do. 

884
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,720
Who is? 
He's Perkins. 

885
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,800
Perkins because Lionel Merton is
one of those faces that he was 

886
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:41,200
very good at playing Americans. 
He's he's one of he's so I think

887
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,480
he's in Goldfinger and a Dirty 
Dozen playing Americans. 

888
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,880
See, he's a just one of those 
faces. 

889
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:53,920
You you see a lot in British 
films of the 50s and the 60s. 

890
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,880
He has, he has a bit more to do.
His character is a little bit 

891
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,360
more fully rounded than most of 
the other shipmates. 

892
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,160
As my friend Tilt would say, for
good and sufficient reasons, 

893
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,400
later on in the film he has to 
pose as as Lieutenant 

894
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,120
Fairweather when Wilfred Hyde 
White, the Admiral, turns up for

895
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:20,720
a surprise inspection. 
Wilfred Hyde White's character 

896
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,440
greatly put out that he has to 
make this inspection because he 

897
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,640
just wants to be on a race 
course somewhere, doesn't he? 

898
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,440
So go on. 
You wanted to talk about 

899
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,800
parallels between this and 
Rotten to the Core. 

900
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,120
Well, before we get to rotten to
the core, I mean, the main 

901
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:42,320
reason why I I chose this 
particular film is because there

902
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:49,400
are lots of similarities to a 
far superior British comedy film

903
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:56,560
called O Mr. Porter, which was 
released in 1937 in London and 

904
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,600
then then general release in 
1938. 

905
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:05,360
And I it's just interesting to 
see how Val Gest just recycles 

906
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:10,920
lots of lines and just sort of 
moments from that particular 

907
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,680
film. 
Not it doesn't hit the the you 

908
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,800
know, one's chuckle muscles as 
as oh Mr. Porter does. 

909
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,160
So one of the most famous lines 
from oh, Mr. Porter. 

910
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:27,120
So of course in the in up the 
Creek, we of course know that 

911
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,000
Humphrey Fairweather, David 
Tomlinson wishes he's interested

912
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,080
in rockets and his rockets are 
going to be delivered to HMS 

913
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:40,600
Barclay and it's delivered to 
the local railway station which 

914
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,920
is run by Frank Pettengall, who 
has a connection to Wilhay 

915
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,640
because he plays Professor 
Hoffman in Wilhay's the goose 

916
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,200
steps out. 
But when David Thomlinson 

917
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,880
arrived at the station the first
time you see Frank Pettengall, 

918
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,880
he lifts up the booking office. 
You know, window says the the 

919
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,360
line of it's running late and 
then closes it. 

920
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,640
Whereas you know Mr. Porter, 
which is probably the most 

921
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:12,600
famous line in the film. 
When Will Hay arrives at Buggles

922
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:17,400
Kelly Station More Marriott 
lifts up the booking office 

923
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,920
hatch and just says next train's
gone and closes it, which is a 

924
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,000
far superior line to it's 
running. 

925
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:32,760
Late shop? 
It's running late next plane's. 

926
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,960
Gone, you know, we all like to 
name drop and or plug things 

927
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,480
that we do or things that we've 
done. 

928
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,480
So when when I when I 
interviewed Dennis Norden for my

929
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:52,360
book on Will Head, he told me so
when Denis Northern of course 

930
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:58,320
used to have long running ITV 
television nostalgia theories 

931
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,240
called Looks Familiar which ran 
throughout the 1970s into the 

932
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,520
80s. 
And he told me that on one So 

933
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,080
what they would do, there would 
be 3 guests and then they would 

934
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:12,280
watch clips from, you know, 
films, etcetera, etcetera, from 

935
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,880
the 30s forties, whatever. 
And two of his guests that 

936
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,560
particular day were Ray Gorton 
and Alan Simpson. 

937
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:24,680
And they showed the clip from 
Mr. Porter with more merit 

938
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,160
saying Next train's gone. 
And Denis Norden put it to them 

939
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:32,600
that he said that he thought 
that it was those 3 words were 

940
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:37,400
the the funniest three word line
in the history of cinema. 

941
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,240
And they agreed. 
And then they went out for a 

942
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,160
drink and they discussed it even
more. 

943
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,600
And then in the end, Dennis 
Norton told me that he said not 

944
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,240
the the actual line. 
They decided that the line could

945
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,360
also be used. 
I'll have to read this out to 

946
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,920
you. 
The line could also be used to 

947
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,920
illustrate the existential 
dilemma of modern man. 

948
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,000
And I'll just leave that for 
everyone to think about that. 

949
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:12,360
You wouldn't think that with 
it's running late, but I can I 

950
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,360
can bore you now and just go 
through things that that. 

951
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,800
So I'd like to thank you for 
making me watch a Will Hay film.

952
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,600
I haven't watched a Will Hay 
film for a long, long time. 

953
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:29,000
So I rewatched Oh, Mr. Porter 
before this for this chat and 

954
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,640
there are so many moments that 
Val Guest is just recycling 

955
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:39,600
lines or ideas from that film. 
So when David Tomlinson speaks 

956
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,560
to Frank Pettingall at the 
railway station, Frank 

957
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,440
Pettingall says he says it goes 
old Porter's signalman, ticket 

958
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,040
collector. 
It's me and you know, Mr. Porter

959
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,960
more married. 
As Harbottle says, I'm the 

960
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,440
Porter, I'm the shunter, I'm the
signalman, I'm the deputy 

961
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,400
station master, Lieutenant 
Fairweather. 

962
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,840
David Thompson is the uncle in 
the commander in chief. 

963
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,720
That is why they can't get rid 
of it. 

964
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:08,280
And you know Mr. Porter, the 
managing director of the 

965
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,200
railway, is married to Will 
Hayes. 

966
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:19,040
Sister Fairweather is he's told 
he's got to go to a place called

967
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,800
Meadows Head in Suffolk. 
And and then he says, oh, 

968
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,280
there's there's a place in Wales
called Land Flair. 

969
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:27,800
I won't do it because I can't do
it. 

970
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,080
Go, go, go. 
And well, hey, when he's told to

971
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,520
go to, he said, we're going to 
send you to Buggles, Kelly, He 

972
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,680
says, yeah, there's a place. 
He says there's a place in 

973
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:44,320
Wales. 
So it's the same joke done again

974
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,600
over again. 
That land Welsh place name, by 

975
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,360
the way, is is the Welsh place 
name that Sellers, as the 

976
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,680
Irishman in The Naked Truth 
says. 

977
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,840
Don't. 
I bet he says it perfectly. 

978
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,560
Or does he? 
Not really. 

979
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,760
Because David Thomason, 
actually, I think I mean, in Up 

980
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:07,960
the Creek, David Thomason kind 
of says it goes all the way 

981
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,480
through where Wil Hay. 
It's more of a joke. 

982
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,320
He trips over it more. 
There are so many other things 

983
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:20,480
where David Thomason is told 
where the boat is and he's told 

984
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,600
it's off the beaten track and he
says as long as it's near water 

985
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,520
and Will Hay, you know, Mr. 
Porter was told it's a country 

986
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,360
station off the beaten track. 
And Will Hay says I don't mind 

987
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:36,560
as long as it's near a railway. 
There are so many the pigs. 

988
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,920
So you have on on the boat. 
Lionel Jeffries is looking after

989
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,440
the chickens. 
There's the pig Esmeralda, and 

990
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:49,360
there are other pigs, you know, 
Mr. Porter, Mr. Murphy comes for

991
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:55,240
his pigs that are kept in the 
railway station and then later 

992
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,840
on in up the Creek. 
When he tells, he says to Lionel

993
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,840
Jeffries that, you know, he's 
told he's got to get rid of 

994
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,200
them. 
And of course they then give him

995
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:09,320
chicken and bacon to eat. 
He's David Tomlinson says, oh, 

996
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,960
you're all, you're all. 
He eats it, realises what's 

997
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,720
happened, that he's eating 
Esmeralda. 

998
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,880
He says that you're all you 
know, you're, you're cannibals, 

999
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,680
cannibals, you're cannibals. 
You're nothing, you're nothing 

1000
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,880
but a bunch of cannibals. 
Which doesn't make sense. 

1001
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,760
Whereas in in O Mr. Porter, the 
same thing happens that Will Hay

1002
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:32,120
realises he's eating the the 
litter of of the pigs and he's 

1003
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:33,480
it's the same life. 
He says. 

1004
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,480
You're a pair of cannibals, he 
said. 

1005
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,640
I mean, it doesn't matter. 
It doesn't make sense. 

1006
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,880
Today's meals come with the 
compliments of Abel Seaman 

1007
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:40,400
Barker. 
Sir. 

1008
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,320
Well, please convey my 
compliments to Abel Seaman 

1009
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,320
Barker. 
Did you say Barker? 

1010
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,240
Yes. 
This is not one of the. 

1011
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,120
You told him to get rid of them.
I didn't tell him to turn the 

1012
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,600
ship into a slaughterhouse. 
I mean, it's Perkins. 

1013
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,760
Let's not Esmeralda. 
Well, so your orders, My orders 

1014
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,000
were to get them off the ship, 
not you all To sit around eating

1015
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,320
like you're nothing but a bunch 
of cannibals. 

1016
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,760
That's a disgraceful. 
Sitting there like a couple of 

1017
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,280
pigs eating. 
Well, you're a pair of 

1018
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,280
cannibals. 
That's what you are. 

1019
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,320
He find, he follows the, you 
know, he finds the contraband. 

1020
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,960
There's the rum, the cigarettes,
you know, Mr. Porter, you have 

1021
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,680
the bacon, you have butter. 
There's so, I mean, there's just

1022
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,960
so many things that have been. 
Lifted. 

1023
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:25,560
So OK, was this because in 1958 
people wouldn't? 

1024
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,240
Well, you didn't have videos 
then, didn't have video plays, 

1025
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,240
you didn't have access to films,
old films that have been on at 

1026
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,000
the cinema years before. 
Was that because you wouldn't 

1027
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,120
have been able to? 
Well, again, it wouldn't have 

1028
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,640
been on television, I would 
imagine either. 

1029
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,040
Things like, oh, Mr. Porter 
around that time. 

1030
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,680
So Valgis thought he was on safe
ground, just recycling material.

1031
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,320
But it would have been, it would
have, I think it would have been

1032
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,320
on TV, but not, you know, not 
very often. 

1033
01:03:52,840 --> 01:04:01,880
But the reviews for Up the Creek
and I've found I can read one 

1034
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:06,800
out to you. 
This is from the Financial Times

1035
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,760
12th of May 1958. 
Blah blah, blah, blah blah. 

1036
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:16,000
Everything falls into place when
one remembers that the director 

1037
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:20,280
of our guest used to make those 
Will Hay films in which our hero

1038
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,600
was packed off to a station 
master of little Puddlecombe or 

1039
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,360
some such. 
Tomlinson is no Will Hay, 

1040
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,120
etcetera, etcetera. 
There, there it was picked up 

1041
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:35,400
and even with Further Up the 
Creek, the sequel, the Evening 

1042
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,400
Standard even picked up once 
again saying, you know, this is 

1043
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:44,680
more this is a nod to the Wil 
Hay comedies of the 1930s. 

1044
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:50,760
It's just quite amazing that I 
think the first time I saw Up 

1045
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,000
the Creek, I can't don't know 
how long ago it was, but the 

1046
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,000
first time I saw it and I was 
just thinking because I was more

1047
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,560
aware of the Wil Hay films. 
I was just thinking, hold on a 

1048
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,640
moment. 
These lines have just been. 

1049
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,040
Lifted. 
And even the sort of the whole 

1050
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,840
idea of Tomlinson's character, 
they they don't know what to do 

1051
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,400
with him. 
He's blowing things up. 

1052
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,360
They need to send him. 
You know, they think of sending 

1053
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,080
him. 
What's it to Scarpa Flow? 

1054
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,320
They want to get rid of him. 
And it's the same as, you know, 

1055
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,800
Will Hay as William Porter. 
He's he's they keep giving him 

1056
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,240
one job after another after 
another after another. 

1057
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,720
And in the end it's like, oh, 
great, we can send him to 

1058
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,080
Boggles Kelly. 
That's really off the beat 

1059
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,720
track. 
So he's just he's, they've 

1060
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:37,160
literally just recycled that 
part of Mr. Porter to create. 

1061
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:41,520
And of course, both films end 
with an explosion. 

1062
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,280
Tell you what the budget for up 
the Creek, I don't know what it 

1063
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,360
was, but they blew most of it on
the special effects, I think 

1064
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:56,680
because I was convinced we have 
a we have a rocket being 

1065
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:02,040
launched into the sky and then 
very realistically coming back 

1066
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:07,080
down again and punching a hole 
in this Sloop and we see this 

1067
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:11,760
boat, which was filmed in a 
bathtub, I think, Patrick. 

1068
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,240
Cargill's bathtub, not. 
Not Petrick Cargill's. 

1069
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,320
No. 
Yeah. 

1070
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,080
I mean, that took me out of it 
as well. 

1071
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,800
But then you got to factor in 
that it was 1958 and it's a, 

1072
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,800
it's a low budget British comedy
film. 

1073
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,640
What do you expect? 
They didn't have CGI back then, 

1074
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:32,240
did they? 
No, I mean, I mean, because you 

1075
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:37,840
know, Mr. Porter Gladstone, this
is no, you know, this is no 

1076
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,320
spoiler for anyone. 
But Gladstone then blows up. 

1077
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:47,240
So it's just interesting that 
the sort of the beginning of oh,

1078
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:51,520
Mr. Porter was used for Up the 
Creek and kind of the end of oh,

1079
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:57,800
Mr. Porter was used to get to 
the denouement of Up the Creek, 

1080
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,360
but going because I'd rotten to 
the core. 

1081
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,440
So I was amazed to discover 
you're listening to the core and

1082
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,960
you're you're probably going to 
tell me that you you knew this 

1083
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,680
already. 
So rotten to the core, which is 

1084
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,760
has Anton Rogers playing the 
Duke, who is a master criminal 

1085
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,680
who's on the outside. 
And his three sort of stooges 

1086
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,080
have just been released from 
prison. 

1087
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:28,480
And they're played by Dudley 
Sutton, Kenneth Griffith and 

1088
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,640
another actor called James. 
Oh, apologies for not 

1089
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,880
remembering his surname, but 
Dudley Sutton's character is 

1090
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:40,240
called Jelly Knight. 
Kenneth Griffith's character is 

1091
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:46,000
called Lenny. 
The dip they remind you of. 

1092
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,760
Some character names and and I 
haven't watched Rotten to the 

1093
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,440
Core for probably five years or 
six years maybe. 

1094
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:58,240
I do have it on DVD, right? 
I haven't, but I don't remember 

1095
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,080
if I picked up on that at the 
time. 

1096
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:07,840
And Victor Madden plays an 
Irishman who is surname, he's 

1097
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:12,280
called, he's called O'Toole. 
Oh, and he's. 

1098
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:13,120
Nervous. 
So tall. 

1099
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,040
Yes, but he's called anxious 
O'Toole Oh. 

1100
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:21,840
God, jeez. 
And that was only what and what 

1101
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,520
year was brought into the course
65. 65. 

1102
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:27,439
And and wrong arm of the law was
63. 

1103
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,680
Well, A2 way stretch. 
Well, yeah, but nervous are 

1104
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,359
tools from yes, wrong arm, isn't
he? 

1105
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:35,319
Yeah, from wrong arm. 
So, so anxious. 

1106
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,560
Bloody hell, they just, they 
just, they all just sort of 

1107
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,160
recycled things back then, 
didn't they? 

1108
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,920
But I was hoping that I was, I, 
I, I would hope because I, I, I 

1109
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,240
rewatched it when I saw this, 
when I saw the, and I was hoping

1110
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,319
maybe there was like some sort 
of character arc and maybe they 

1111
01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:57,399
were kind of playing the same 
character. 

1112
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,279
Right. 
But they weren't. 

1113
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:03,160
No, no, no. 
No, I'll have to rewatch that 

1114
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,359
film. 
I think it's Charlotte 

1115
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:08,920
Ramplings, their first credited 
film. 

1116
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,560
OK. 
Can I tell you one other story? 

1117
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:13,520
Absolutely. 
Go on. 

1118
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:19,319
SO this is Val Guest's sort of 
memory, possibly playing tricks 

1119
01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:21,279
with him. 
So he was mentioning about 

1120
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:27,240
Sellers and he mentioned that 
Kathleen Harrison, one of the 

1121
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:34,560
great British character 
actresses, he said that some of 

1122
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,960
her lines needed to be re 
dubbed, but she was in Ireland 

1123
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,720
so she couldn't come back to re 
dub the lines. 

1124
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:46,760
So she he ask Sellers, would he?
So he called Sellers and said, 

1125
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:52,000
can you do Kathleen Harrison? 
And apparently Sellers replied, 

1126
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,640
do you mean physically or 
phonetically? 

1127
01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:00,520
And Sellers then dubbed Kathleen
Harrison's lines. 

1128
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,840
But Kathleen Harrison said that 
the way the story's told by Val 

1129
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,640
Guest, he implies that it's up 
the Creek. 

1130
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:14,120
But she's not in up the Creek. 
No, but she did make 1956 film, 

1131
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,560
which kind of ties in with the 
son of Fred, you know, and 

1132
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:21,280
leasing the flat from his, you 
know, Val Guest, mother-in-law 

1133
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,520
that he made a film called It's 
a Wonderful World, which stars 

1134
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,760
Terence Morgan and George Cole, 
where they play songwriters. 

1135
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,760
So you can see that's probably 
loosely based on the early part 

1136
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:37,680
of Val Guest's career. 
Kathleen Harrison does appear in

1137
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,560
that particular film, so I'm 
wondering if that's the film 

1138
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,520
because he also well guessed 
that when Kathleen Harrison saw 

1139
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:48,120
the film, she was totally 
unaware that Sellers had dubbed 

1140
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:53,800
a few of her lines for the film.
I think it does appear on 

1141
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,240
Talking Pictures. 
Right. 

1142
01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,200
OK, OK. 
So I mean, that was another one 

1143
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,240
of the stuff because he he even 
in the introduction to his 

1144
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:08,280
autobiography, he says that he 
was chatting to Peter Sellers 

1145
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,280
in. 
He said he was on the set of Up 

1146
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,720
the Creek in Weybridge, but 
that's further Up the Creek, 

1147
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,400
Yeah. 
Which of course is Frankie 

1148
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,200
Howard. 
But he said that he the idea was

1149
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,080
first mooted of him writing an 
autobiography. 

1150
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:28,560
He was asked when they were 
shooting the film, and he asked 

1151
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,240
Sellers, you know, what should I
do? 

1152
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,920
Sellers said something along the
lines of, I'll put it all in, 

1153
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,320
you know, tell it, tell it how 
how it is. 

1154
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,280
Because we spend most of our 
life in the crap, and it's quite

1155
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,200
interesting to see how we get 
out of it. 

1156
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:47,320
But he kind of said, once again,
his sort of memory is slightly 

1157
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:52,240
playing tricks. 
And of course, I think Val 

1158
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,640
himself kind of rewrote his own 
history. 

1159
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,600
So when he would talk about 
these sort of sex comedies 

1160
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:04,920
nearer the time when he made 
them or, you know, he, he, he 

1161
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:10,040
spoke of them in a, in a, in a 
much more, you know, in a much 

1162
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,520
more warmths and towards those 
films. 

1163
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:18,280
But when he spoke about them 
later on, he, he just sort of, 

1164
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,680
there was nothing to say. 
He just sort of put the shutters

1165
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,320
down on those films. 
Right. 

1166
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,280
Yeah, Yeah. 
OK. 

1167
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,880
Is is there anything more about 
this film that you want to 

1168
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,040
mention that we haven't? 
I mean, we haven't talked a lot 

1169
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:38,520
about it, but is there anything?
I just think that it's a film 

1170
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:45,520
that is, It's enjoyable, it 
passes the time, but I just 

1171
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:50,840
don't think there are enough 
funny lines in the film. 

1172
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:55,560
There are just, you know, it's 
beautiful, it's shot well, it's 

1173
01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:01,200
the acting's great, but the 
script, it just, it doesn't 

1174
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,680
have, it doesn't have any punch 
to it. 

1175
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,800
No, absolutely. 
That's it. 

1176
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:09,480
That's it. 
Which is which is quite 

1177
01:13:09,480 --> 01:13:12,880
surprising really when you know,
when we we you know, if we go 

1178
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,000
back to, you know, we think 
about two way stretch or we move

1179
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,920
forward to the wrong arm of the 
law. 

1180
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:24,360
There are lots of you know, 
there are lots of zingers in 

1181
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:28,280
those films. 
But then are also the the main 

1182
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:33,320
characters more fully rounded in
those particular films because 

1183
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:37,680
there in this particular film up
the Creek, apart from Sellers, 

1184
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:44,920
Tomlinson, a little bit of 
Lionel Merton as Perkins, the 

1185
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,960
the characters are just not 
really developed at all. 

1186
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,760
People just sort of appear 
appear in the scene and then 

1187
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,440
they and you may not you may 
never see them again or they 

1188
01:13:57,440 --> 01:14:02,600
appear briefly in another scene.
It's just, but it was a huge 

1189
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,960
success. 
Well, David Thomlinson is just 

1190
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,480
David Thomlinson just playing 
David Thomlinson. 

1191
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:09,600
Yeah, and I love David 
Thomlinson. 

1192
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,400
I mean, I've always loved David 
Thomlinson. 

1193
01:14:11,480 --> 01:14:14,320
So how do you feel about David 
Tomlinson? 

1194
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,240
I I very much liked him in the 
film The Wooden Horse. 

1195
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:23,160
He's great. 
Yeah, he's three men in a boat. 

1196
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,800
I haven't seen that for years, 
but I don't think, and I say 

1197
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,800
this a lot and it's not fair to 
say this, but I don't think he 

1198
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,000
has a lot of range necessarily, 
although. 

1199
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:41,560
No, but The thing is, he those 
Disney films, there's some great

1200
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:47,720
warmth to his roles in them in 
bed knobs and broomsticks and 

1201
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:53,920
the love bug and Mary Poppins. 
It's he's the sort of person 

1202
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,680
that you would think, Oh, he's 
he's a you know, as to be an 

1203
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,600
uncle or a father. 
He would probably be great fun. 

1204
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,400
And and of course, in The Love 
Bug, he plays against type 

1205
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,080
because he is the he's the 
villain of the peace in in the 

1206
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,640
Love Bug. 
And it's interesting. 

1207
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,280
I think it's in Roger Lewis's 
book, isn't there? 

1208
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,200
Isn't there the quote from Noël 
Coward that said that Damon 

1209
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,040
Tomlinson had a face of an old 
baby? 

1210
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,120
Yes, that's right. 
And then I found the, I found 

1211
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,440
the press book for Further up 
the Creek, the press book for Up

1212
01:15:27,440 --> 01:15:29,680
the Creek. 
There's very little in it, but 

1213
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,240
in Further Up the Creek it said 
David Tomlinson, he of the 

1214
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,240
expression of a Turkey or 
something you. 

1215
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:39,880
Can see that, yeah, you can kind
of see. 

1216
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,720
That but then but then it made 
me think because of Noël Coward 

1217
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,240
saying of Tomlinson that he had 
the face of an old baby. 

1218
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:55,320
Myles Jump played on stage, 
toured as David Tomlinson and 

1219
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,000
Myles Jump has the same sort of 
baby I. 

1220
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,480
Suppose he has. 
Yeah, I suppose he has. 

1221
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,440
I just, I just, I just like 
Thompson. 

1222
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:08,800
I just said this and he's quite 
good as the buffoon. 

1223
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,480
And I do like the line when his 
name, his first name is 

1224
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:13,400
mentioned. 
Humphrey. 

1225
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,040
Humphrey. 
Terrible, isn't it? 

1226
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,320
How too young to protest. 
That is a very good line. 

1227
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:23,080
Yes, now the ending, the right 
the the the the film ends with 

1228
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,120
Humphrey getting the girl and 
the rest of the crew get a new 

1229
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,720
vessel, which is the HMS 
Incorruptible. 

1230
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,320
T he he and I did. 
I didn't particularly. 

1231
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,400
I was, I cringed a little bit at
the right at the end when he 

1232
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,400
looks, he looks through the 
telescope, I think in the 

1233
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,280
sellers and the crew all waving 
madly. 

1234
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:44,960
Oh well, they're doing the hip 
prey. 

1235
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,160
Hip prey. 
Hip prey. 

1236
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:51,960
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
But did you notice them where he

1237
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,600
is being sent to David 
Tomlinson? 

1238
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:59,880
Oh, it's Australia, isn't it? 
Yes, he's been sent to Woomera. 

1239
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,400
Woomera, which I gather was a 
rocket range site. 

1240
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,600
Yeah. 
And the outbaked. 

1241
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,680
That's right. 
It's only now you've said that, 

1242
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,520
that it's actually clicked with 
me. 

1243
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,560
Yes. 
So it fits. 

1244
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,040
I mean, that's, that's, that's 
very good writing. 

1245
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,120
It's, it's not Penny Chayevsky, 
but you know, it's, it's not 

1246
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,480
bad. 
Did you spot the connection for 

1247
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:28,600
EastEnders? 
I I have never seen a whole 

1248
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,160
episode of EastEnders, but I 
gather there's a connection with

1249
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,320
EastEnders in this film. 
Right. 

1250
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,320
OK, OK, let me think. 
Let me think. 

1251
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,520
EastEnders connection. 
So you mean a cast member that's

1252
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:39,840
also in EastEnders? 
Yep. 

1253
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:45,160
Without looking at IMDb. 
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 

1254
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:46,520
no, no, no. 
I'm just trying to. 

1255
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:51,120
I don't think Wilfred Hyde White
was one of the Beale family, was

1256
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:56,640
he? 
No, I don't know. 

1257
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:01,800
So if do you remember when David
Tomlinson, he's on his way to 

1258
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:06,320
the Army surplus store, he's in 
his car again and he is stopped 

1259
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,880
by traffic policeman. 
Yes. 

1260
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,240
And he asked for directions and 
he said, oh, I don't want to 

1261
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,440
take the shortcut again. 
Something wrong is nice. 

1262
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:20,880
The policeman is played by 
Leonard Fenton, who I gather was

1263
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:28,360
Doctor Leg in EastEnders. 
Ether would always go to with 

1264
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:35,440
her ape and ailments, yes, and a
little Willy, Yeah, right. 

1265
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,040
And there's a there's a brief 
appearance by Michael Ripper. 

1266
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,440
Oh yes? 
Well, it's a Hammer film. 

1267
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,840
So All in all, Yep, an 
enjoyable. 

1268
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,960
It's a very short film. 
It's only about 80 odd minutes 

1269
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:50,960
as well so. 
Which is the which is really the

1270
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,520
length of comedy Should be. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1271
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,040
Talking Pictures TV does play it
from time to time. 

1272
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:02,640
In fact, I watched, I recorded 
it from Talking Pictures last 

1273
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,280
year and I watched, I watched it
at the time and then I watched 

1274
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,640
it, watch it again. 
I kept the recording and watched

1275
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:12,040
it again. 
For this, Sellers is really 

1276
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,800
good. 
Tomlinson's great. 

1277
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,520
But there's not, you know, 
there's, there's not going to be

1278
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,560
many surprises and not that many
belly laughs. 

1279
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,520
In fact, there's very few. 
In fact, there's probably no 

1280
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,040
belly laughs. 
There's a few titters. 

1281
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,560
Of titters. 
Well, talking of titters. 

1282
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:31,640
But of course Sellers wasn't 
available for the sequel and was

1283
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:37,480
was replaced by, of course, the 
grand titter master, Frankie 

1284
01:19:37,480 --> 01:19:41,560
Howard. 
Francis and Francis didn't get 

1285
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,440
very good reviews. 
I gather they were because they 

1286
01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:46,480
were thinking of making a third.
Return of the. 

1287
01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:50,560
Creek some whatever, yes, right 
up your Creek or something. 

1288
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:55,320
But I gather that Frankie 
Howard's agent was demanding 

1289
01:19:55,320 --> 01:20:00,320
more money, but the film sank. 
Oh God, another terrible pun. 

1290
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:06,480
The film sank at the box office.
So, but what I would like to say

1291
01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:12,640
is I actually think further up 
the Creek is funnier than up the

1292
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,080
Creek. 
Oh right. 

1293
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,160
Well I have not watched it. 
I did not watch it for the. 

1294
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:20,120
Maybe I should have done for the
to be? 

1295
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:25,840
And I can't believe that I have 
said that film starring Peter 

1296
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,800
Sellers and a film starring 
Frankie Howard where all the 

1297
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:34,520
cart the rest of the cast main, 
you know, the crew and Tomlinson

1298
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:35,880
come back. 
Yeah. 

1299
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,440
And I can't believe that I've 
just said that the film starring

1300
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:44,240
Frankie Howard is funnier than 
the film starring Peter Sellers.

1301
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:47,480
Well, but obviously not as 
popular. 

1302
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:52,920
There's no thanks again to 
Graham, so don't forget a few 

1303
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,480
days ago the the brand new 
August edition of Goon Pod film 

1304
01:20:56,480 --> 01:21:00,640
Club dropped, in which myself 
and Tim Worthington are talking 

1305
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:04,480
about the 1963 John Schlesinger 
directed film Billy Lier 

1306
01:21:04,480 --> 01:21:08,840
starring, what's his name, Tom 
Courtney, Julie Christie. 

1307
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,400
It's also got Leonard roster, 
it's got Rodney Bewes, it's got 

1308
01:21:12,440 --> 01:21:16,680
all sorts of familiar faces, 
Wilfred Pickles even, and you 

1309
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,600
can get access to that. 
Head over to patreon.com. 

1310
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:26,680
Goonpod the every month the 
library will grow as a new 

1311
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:30,640
edition of Goonpod Film drop. 
Film Drop put my teeth in a new 

1312
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,400
edition of Goon Pod Film Club 
Drops. 

1313
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,240
Last month it was Kind Hearts 
and Coronets with David Quantic.

1314
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:40,240
As I say, this month it is Billy
Liar with Tim Worthington, and 

1315
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,320
next month I think it's going to
be Hard Day's Night with Eddie 

1316
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,080
Robson. 
So yeah, to access all of those,

1317
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,720
just head over to 
patreon.com/goon Pod, get 

1318
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:54,600
yourself signed up, and I will 
see you next week with a very 

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special guest, I think for 
Goonpod, for the usual Goonpod 

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feed, a very special guest. 
Watch this space. 

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See you very soon. 
Bye.