Sharp Eleven on the 28th. We love leave off we don't get
up when a 29 and so on the 28th we are all safely locked up in
here. You have to want a better Alibi
than that. I don't know.
Yeah. The best in it.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
Right. Is it real?
Have you forgotten what your dear mother said?
You lost visiting day about how you never try to break out like
the rest of your relatives. You forgotten that Lenny have
you forgotten listen, you're doing this for your mum, your
mum, and for the honor of The Price family.
An appreciation of art and craft one or two eggs.
Don't know. Thank you, Julie.
I feel a bit untidy after that trifle.
You knocked out last night, don't go easy on the Shelly.
Sorry, Dodger mate didn't look all that.
Which to me I see the bottoms dropped right out of colonial,
cocoa. When you knock off any money,
let's never put on a stock exchange.
I'll tell you that for nothing. Don't you worry?
I won't. What are you doing with this
guy? He's like, I'm a trustee
trustee. I wouldn't trust you with your
own grandma. No, passing of written messages
cigarettes or any other form of Contraband, right?
What's the matter with you? I'm sure never seen it before.
Yes, I have and you can leave it there.
You're welcome. Hello and welcome to Green Pond
the podcast that reaches the Pratt's.
Other podcasts cannot reach. My name is Tyler Adams this
week, we're looking at a Peter Sellers film one that regularly
turns up on talking pictures TV and over the years seems to have
developed a well-deserved reputation.
As one of his best early films before Hollywood, came knocking
a point, made by my guest, a returning guest, the comedian
and musician. Jeremy limb.
Well, it's sort of like a It's almost like a Crossroads for for
sellers in a way in the sense that this is as far as he could
go with one type of film. If you know what I mean.
I think at the time it was just pre any proper Hollywood films?
Wasn't it done? I think I'm all right.
Jack had already been made in, come out and done quite well in
America. So it's almost like it's marking
time. It's almost like he's doing,
it's a weird thing about him in this field.
He's brilliant in this film, as he's is in most films.
I won't say the ones is not releasing not now.
Anyway, there's food Manchu by any chance.
Well, I love. I love him.
And you just the fact that he's him dressed as Elvis at the end.
It's makes me laugh. Anyway.
No, where's it hurt? I was thinking, hey, in this
house we never mentioned that film very good.
No. But it's almost like he's got to
a point where he can almost as he's like he's got no makeup on
this. Almost got no artifice to him
in. This film, he's almost literally
sleepwalking through these. He always looks, I mean, part of
the part of the plot of the film is that he's just working up
sort of in his feeling of its 2D, he's not doing a doing a
weird character. He's just sort of showing that
he can be funny, which G is very funny, just by being himself,
which he claimed not to know what that was.
He suing me? I mean, he's not quite himself.
He's turned on the Cockney a bit more than you probably.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But but, you know what I mean,
physically, there's no disguise at all.
He's literally just rolling out of bed, literally in the first
scene and delivering the lines are very deadpan way.
I can sort of Imagine waving aside the makeup ladies and
because it's eyes look so bleary, learned very early on
with David Letterman says, go, you look B to do today, don't
you dodged me really does. It's not, you know, one of you
is already doing method. Well, as I know because it was
he was working. So hard in 59, he was actually,
he was work. Not only well, okay, he was not
doing the Goon show when this was was filmed but they're the
last series of the Goon show. Was that 60?
Yeah. So the the last series began in
December 59, it was only six episodes.
Is that right? Six episodes.
It was, it was, it was an option for it to be more, but in the
end it just they just did the sex.
Yeah. This began filming in September
59. It was around this time that he
was also. He also filmed the running
jumping and standing still film. Yeah, he'd been prior to this.
I thought I believe he'd been filming the Battle of the Sexes.
Yes. Which is it does much more of a
an actual performance. Well I mean he's into the sky,
you know, does makeup and yeah I love that film as well as it was
a great fun. Yeah.
And and and then straight out of this film.
So roundabout October November time, yeah, he starts feeling
Filming the film. Never let go.
Oh yeah, she's terrifying. Yeah, yeah and I'm sure he
still, you know, he's also making old piece or an LPS
around this time. He's appearing on radio, he's
appearing on television, he's so hard at work that it is it is
believable that maybe he was just absolutely knackered and he
just thought well I will make the most of my naked State and
also he looked like he'd put on a bit of timber because he'd
sleep. It's slim down.
I think for Fred kite. Yeah, agree.
I think you're right. Yeah, it's obvious.
He's got a lot in common with this film cast.
Why's that? Oh yes.
Oh yeah, yeah. But I mean, you know, most
capacitor films around this planet, but 50% of the same
actors in any way. So, it's, well, I really handle
is it's, you know, it's a given that she has to be in every
Coal. Mine, British comedy and quite
right too as well, she's one of my favorite actors of all time.
Time is our any handle, she know, she always does the same
thing but she just is always a meeting immediately.
Amazing? When you say she does the same
thing. She yes, she does.
Almost always. Well I mean she's got her set
you know sort of slightly harridan trying to speak a
little bit Posh occasionally, she says it's so well it's you
know obviously you know, recordings with sellers on.
Yes there's an early one and a light one up on there.
There's on the was the last album called from 78 or
something seller's market a market.
That's it. And she's on that she is 11 and
Paul Paul from the traps Favorite lines, she says she
might awful if I rub that off his autograph.
See I'm saving it for my favorite.
Incredible Hulk. If it's written on their armor,
city is pretty. And she, I think in based on the
earlier one where she's at, it was sort of the same setup but
it'll run into each other in the park and it's all a bit
suggestive. I think she's almost out,
clusters, even being funny because she's just amazingly,
Hillary isn't in that broad, but broad caught me trying to be
pushed voice, which is a, I was a comedy steak.
What I mean, But I didn't invent it but she certainly codified it
and her teeth in this film are appalling.
Oh yeah. Do a stretch.
That is I mean they must presumably displays in those
days. Everyone just had false teeth as
a matter. Of course.
Yes. We used to get used to get them
taken out your 21st birthday. It's terrifying thought.
I don't know why. Yeah, it's ridiculous now.
But anyway, so presumably she lets you just whipped in a pup
couple of Albert step toes and she was, she was one of the she
was one of the few Comedians or comedians or comic performance.
I think that cell has been a lot of a lot of respect for and and
yes it rightly would defer to and that's good.
I mean, there's another short come on to do.
Obviously, it's the Lionel Jeffries in the room, mmm-hmm,
but because Roger, Lewis, particularly makes a lot of
sellers, this jealousy of other performers.
But I, and I said this last time as well, I think sellers could
be very generous to other performers women.
He knew they were doing good work and it just depended
probably just depended on it today almost with sellers but he
always you could tell he respected ireenie handle enough
to let the almost walk away with those two sketches that they did
on the album's 20 years apart, or whatever it was.
Did you mention Roger Lewis? I've got it in my notes and I
was going to I was going to bring this up a bit later on but
Useful to bring it up. Now, I think as we've talked
about sellers appearance in this film and I'd like to, to just a
quote, from the Roger Lewis sellers book what he describes
the character that sellers plays in two-way stretch, Dodger,
Lane. Okay, and he describes him.
Thus, he holds their attention. This sagging, plump Peter Pan by
keeping still. He makes lethargy dramatic, we
sense. The craftiness, which has gone
into getting people to wait on him.
Jail is Dodgers. Caught the fellow prisoners are
as flatterers and the warders until krauts Advent is are
queries. And Chamberlain's.
Hmm. See is it is, it's like a and
sellers a 1959 in this film. Okay, this film comes out in 60
but it's filmed in 59, Summers, and 59 looks so different from
sellers in 1969. If yet, if you look at him in
the magic, Christian, the 1969. That's it.
Not the same person, not the same person as He's probably the
heart attack, which obviously changed him mentally, and hence
on a feature wise as well, but obviously the way dropped off by
that stage. Yeah, but yeah, it's an
incredible difference. Isn't it really just just what?
Roger, Roger Lewis says, they're about him.
Mmm him being top of the Heap in this prison and and even the
warders. Yeah.
Show deference towards him. How much was Clement and laughs
Renee in? Fluids by this feel.
That's the other elephant in the room, isn't it is a pilot for
porridge? Isn't it really?
It's not just obviously, as in the setup but I mean some of the
names in a crowd and grout. Yes.
And you know when a criminal is the color you think he's
lending? Just like Richard Beckinsale is
Leno, of course. Both so weird watching it.
I watched to I stretch today. In fact I noticed the prison
governor's office. Looks like almost identical to
the one in porridge and not just that the president governor in
to a stretches Morris denim who later turns up in porridge as
the judge that sentenced is Fletcher to prison and is a
friend of the friend of the actual land of the governor in
porridge those. That's really.
Yes, very well link. Yes.
Yes, we're only bucket. Clearly is channeling that a
seller's. I would say that.
I'm sure he wouldn't have made any sense a whole episode him.
Right from the first thing that you see does your laying waking
up. He's got, he's got that sort of
slight throwaway delivery of lines that Fletch did in these
porridge and never Cosmic. I grant crowd-sourced crowd, but
not quite a sadistic. I don't think the chi.
No, not really. And then there's that I can't
remember his name but Jenkins the the mr.
Barry Clough Jenkins as these the two-way stretch berrecloth
Avatar Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah.
I would describe. I would describe both Dodger
Lane into a stretch and flex in powerage as having an air of
insouciance. Yes, the whip.
Yeah, yeah, it's a good word. Let's use it whatever.
But but also there's a bit I mean it's he's slightly hairy
growls as well. Don't you like that is as well
in the sense that he's got he's got all the trappings of Because
that's what drummer encourage hairy crab grounds.
Is that his name? Yes, isn't it?
The video? Where we going out to me,
Junior? He's got all the perks and
carpet slippers and the French fancy cakes, and stuff like
that, which is basically how it aligns.
Got it all set up. So it's like, don't you Lena is
the antecedent to both Fletcher and ground?
Yeah, so that it's got to be more than a coincidence.
Yeah, I mean, obviously, if you're going to be doing a
comedy set in a prison then It's going to be things in common,
then again, there's the so there's the almost sequel wrong
arm of the law because that's like a sequel.
Monk a honest, isn't it? Yeah, it's, I'm I prefer this
film to deter a to, but I think weirdly.
I think sellers in a way, he thinks better get his acting
chops back in again for wrong under the law, and does a
typical one of those, like, the Naked Truth performance, just
Camille on. And even though it's the same
character, rather than lots of different Characters that you
see what I mean? Yes, yeah yeah yeah.
That's the thing because most most films with Summers as in
there's that there's an opportunity for him to if not
play another character pretend to be someone else or something.
Yeah, as you don't have that in this film apart from a very,
very brief impression of Kraut in the exercise yard.
Yeah, that's right. As I got jelly.
All right, all right. I'll hit you down.
The Quarry 6:00 and think about it.
It's he does a sort of irony handle when he's showing Barrel
read and the other ladies around the prison early on in the
third. Yes, he does.
That sort of slightly formal form a company, which already
ended will do occasionally, but also, what a lovely smell but
are they? These har nicotine has not as
Virginia's, lady what are flowers?
Smells very much like tobacco to me by with at night.
Sonic David, I do my view lady. We got so many lives around this
joint. You never know what you're
smelling is coming up. And if at the governor's Betty
up, Richard over here, that's the second part of Joy now, and
really, as they say, in the Navy, lovely in it.
This is probably my, I think it's fair to say this is
probably my second favorite. Peter Sellers film of all.
There really is this so much in it.
It's a neat story. It gets its got an ingenious
plot in many ways and it's got some great dialogue, some
fantastically funny dialogue, genuinely funny time.
Really know. You're absolutely right.
And things that we sure will cover the sellers, Nick later in
his other films. Yep.
Yeah. And it's 78 minutes long.
You know? Yeah.
And there's all that packed in. I remember getting this on VHS
back in the day and watching it over and over and over again.
So every every scene is burnt into my memory and yeah, but you
know, I watched again on Sunday for this.
It was just as enjoyable. Although I had to sort of sit
there with a pen and paper and make notes obviously, but but it
was still. Yeah, marvelous.
Is it just This is the Zips along it really doesn't.
Yeah. And and so, the film, say, the
films made in late, 59 comes out in 1960.
The working title for the film was was, was nothing bad
parenting. The a double re D?
Yes. Yes.
Yeah. That makes sense.
Yeah, it makes sense makes about as much sense as two-way stretch
to us. Yeah, to wait because they're
going out and coming back in again I suppose.
Stretch. Well, the stretch is a slang for
a prison term, isn't it? So why is it to way?
Because I getting out what some was for this film.
All right, well, then I got over the death of Stalin.
Tell you that much. Oh yes, your pivotal role.
Beginning, the beginning of electricity.
Now, so it's obviously Peter Sellers stars as as dr.
Lane. And he is ably assisted by the
wonderful David Lodge. Mmm, probably is that its finest
Hour film likely when you say this or, or cockleshell Heroes,
which, if you've seen the film, but it's a film that Dave Lodge
often would refer to in the cute.
Series. He would Flex his muscles and
say, hey, I was in kikuchiyo, here already.
A bit of a catch phrase. We got Dave, I mean we talked
about Dave logicals, but, but but of course, the, the, the
very recently late and much lamented Bernard cribbins as
Lenny price. Hmm.
And I want to ask you if you know if you've got anything
because you're a I mean among other things you're a big Doctor
Who fan and all the rest of it. What are your memories?
What are your thoughts on on Bernard cribbins?
Well, he was just one of those is just one of those Legends
really. I did meet him a couple of
times. Oh, okay, and I played piano for
a memorial was around this time of year a few years ago, that
was the memorial remembrance service.
At one of those big churches on Fleet Street.
I can't remember which one, but there's a heavy paratroop,
regiment them presents and he was there giving doing a reading
inside. Actually, had a little chat with
Bernard cribbins, which was lovely.
Some reason, I've got his autograph twice and either by
the rich occasion, I was there that he decided to make those
times. I think he was quite generous
with his autograph giving and so everyone thought everyone had to
get several people for all this would be great for Jeremy, but
she was, but it's a shame. I wasn't there.
When it happened. Anyway, he was lovely use.
I knew Spectrum, very briefly, that use everything.
You'd imagine him to be. My first time I met it was a
refresher referred to as time I was on when they unveil the
plaque to Peter Sellers near Highgate station.
Name is the G stop with the Lord forgot.
Nice shooting. Yeah.
Okay. Kuriboh is there.
No one remembers G stock saying anyway.
And but it could be the sensors. Like I don't know where he is.
She said, crab are going. I'm eating a book.
It's just, you know, Burke is a great word.
Yes, it is, it comes up obviously.
The theme music is in Jones, okay?
Okay. I think.
What else think what else is he known for of the top of a splint
company, I could be wrong. By the way.
Kendrick, this is, this is not the Ken Jones that played or
belives in porridge. It's not the same.
No, no, no. The theme music for two-way
stretch was used in 1992. Remember very clearly Channel. 4
had a The seller season. Oh yeah.
Where they play focusing on his is black and white British
films, right? And there was a documentary that
accompanied the season, it was called salads best.
And actually I remember this. Yes.
And I tell ya 92. Yeah.
And they used and this mute the theme music from two-way.
Stretch was kind of like the season theme tune.
You know what I mean? It doesn't make sense because it
is very familiar sounding to me. Yeah.
I was thinking it could be used in may have been used.
Forms of end of sketch, stings in the two Runners, because it's
got that sort of feels that as well.
Because tiny ridiculous, Brass Band 4.
And, and also, obviously there's the animated slightly animated
intro. Yes, but it's, which would de
rigueur in British comedy films at this time.
It really is. It's a distillation of British
comedy 1960 or it isn't. Yes.
And we open with the exterior of the Prison Huntley.
Hmm, which I believe was was Williams barracks in older shot
Hampshire. Okay, so not an actual Nick has
been very difficult to film. Yes.
And we've got, we see this horse drawn milk cart and in this,
this whole sequence with the Milky, putting some comestibles
in a basket and a on the end of a rope and it being pulled up.
And then we see the very Possible prison of of our three
Heroes Dodge Elaine jelly night, and Lenny price.
And by the way, we one of the one of the credits that I
noticed we're getting was additional dialogue by Alan
Hackney, which is an unfortunate thing for additional Dino.
Yes. Well, that's a very good point
that you make a very good point because I had it in my notes
enough skipped over that. Yeah, because Alan because it
was written by the screenplay was written by John Warren and
Len Heath. But like I said, I don't know
anything about them. I don't know, apologies to the
widows of family of mr. Warren and mr.
Heath but I don't, but I do know something a little bit more
about Eleniak me because he was the writer of.
I'm all right, jack, how is he? Yeah, I should have known that
they get, but yeah. So so that the lads are at
showing us this. Very comfortable prison cell and
they're due for release in a few weeks and life seems to be
pretty good for them. So as almost could be, no, he
gets killed. It could Be as character from
the ladykillers. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Cheers Larry and his comparison
and id'd the could have well of filled out.
Well he's got full figured and let it goes.
He was hit a bit of a Teddy boy here.
Count. Yes.
And heavy head. Yeah, but he could, he could
have become a little bit more. They say fair.
I can imagine that. Anyway, it's a similar sort of
character, I guess. Is what I'm saying?
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
Unlike You said before Johnny night wakes up Dodger with the
newspapers and offers it fry up. And and Dodgers has a feel about
Humpty after they try for your knocked-up minister Humpty
Dumpty. Yeah.
It's been lost to the sands of time that that reference.
I think the economy of the Hmm, the acting in the script on the
dialogue is, is wonderful. In the sense that it hasn't it.
The power Dynamic is so quickly established within minutes.
You know you're absolutely right.
Is so economical and I love that just so brief incidental.
Gag of him sellers, doing that very brief Pumping Iron guys,
that's enough of that. This is exercise for the day.
I wonder whether that how much of this film is salads
improvising because Co and like I could well imagine that in the
script or the direction was you know just fact it wasn't it with
weights, it was a chest expand. It wasn't it.
Oh, sorry, absolutely rise. Yeah, it's yeah, it's that sort
of thing. It's so I'm wondering what he
was told, you know, just, you know, just just do a bit of
exercise and whatever and you just, it's so just
half-heartedly tugs the time Stitch expanded once this is,
well, that's enough of that. Yeah, that's it.
But the chief water Jenkins comes in and this actor.
Again it's one of those faces that used to tell ya, I've been
in all those old films. Yeah.
And he to me, he's is the actor's.
Name is George Woodbridge and never, you know, anyone that's
listening to this will know who who does acting is.
Because, you know, you'd seen him in 100 films over the years.
Yeah, he's one of my earliest memories that actor terms of
just seeing right someone on screen.
I remember him that actor from something, whether it be a film
or television series when I was very, very young.
And he he's sort of he's not he's not the one, who's the
original Pipkin from flipkens Izzy.
Because someone in, I think I remember reading somewhere that
one of the actors in This film is as in mr.
Pipkin, I don't know. But I don't think we got pick.
We might have done but I don't, I'm associating him with some
sort of Seaside kids television show or something.
When I was very, very young, but I just can't he may be right?
I don't know, beyond my stab in the dark.
Yeah, I dashed you recognizing. I recognized tell you.
I very much recognizes the night Gate Keeper as it were Cyril.
Chamberlain is, oh, yes, he's something everything really is.
Yes. Everything, usually, the same
sort of character was about four lines.
Yeah, you know, it's good career, good career.
If you can make it regular irregular money coming in but
yeah but George so Jenkins is The, the a very functional, very
jolly mmm, it's nice performance testing it is and he just seems,
I mean, he seems totally unsuited to being a prison
Warden. Yeah.
Isn't it? And we meet the cat called
strange ways? Yeah.
And and then he tells them about this.
Ladies League of prison reformer on a visit and want a tour of
the prison. Yeah, including the garden and
the rehabilitation classes and this is like I said before, this
is where Dodge because Dodgers Is our trusty, he's wound its
way into the books, and he does this thing.
So I wasn't he with you, not just the voice, but he does this
thing where he's constantly sort of half, saluting with his
fingers, I don't want. Yeah.
He's he's, he's very polite.
He's very ingratiating. And of course, one of the ladies
is its Barrel read. Hmm.
Barrel reading. Let me Barrel.
Raiders had a touch of the irony handles about it as well as you
didn't Shake. Yeah, definitely.
I'm sure they're up for the same roles.
It's and then, of course, you had to pound shop.
I really handle in the way he'll to make it a little bit, but
yeah, you're probably right and Morris denim, of course, like
the governor, he's a, he's a great actor, I love him, and
he's brilliant. So many So many things it's
quite surprisingly. Broad the humor of that is Mary.
Mary has always suggested that they really care for it in this
film. The do delivering shot where it
looks like /. He's just gazing down at his
crotch magnificent. I mean I know it's a few things
in this film that are kind of like make you think that's a
bit. That's a bit racy course Morris
denim. You know his career had been
he'd been working for years but the time this was made he'd been
any number any voices, man? And yeah and he's played the
governor again, very similar to the character of the governor in
porridge. Yeah.
He's very A liberal, he's a reformer, he's quite easily
manipulated. But yeah, sometimes he gives
vent to outbursts and anger because, well, mainly towards
Kraut. That's right.
Yeah, but he's in a way, he's a bit more, not more, but he's,
he's got elements of berrecloth in him as well, because Jenkins
is a bit more knowing in The Sims that he's bucking the
system. And the berrecloth always
thought he was upholding the system while being taken
advantage of, which is a bit more.
Most animals role in this film. Yeah, because the governor is
very gullible, very naive. Yeah.
And yeah, exactly believes. And you know, because we see the
scene where Dodger fact, it is the same where they, the, the
governor sort of leads the ladies out of the office and in
Dodger, Dodger sort of hangs around at the back and then goes
and basically tries to grab it with one hand every single
cigarette in his cigarette box. I know.
Yeah, manages to do so. And then there's a pause and he
puts a couple back, it's about us.
As you get you get seem to get ahead of every party and sorry
every seems to get ahead of the party every time and be
somewhere within the garden before they arrived and happy
even though the last to leave the previous thing don't know
how he does. It just pops magic against must
be must be well because yeah, because they've gone out to the
Garden to admire the governor's wonderful prize marrow.
Now I'd like to show you something of mine.
Oh, The has a prize winner If Ever I saw one.
Oh, I've never seen one so big. Yes, I brought this on myself.
Oh, you must be very proud. Oh indeed.
I am Mama but I perfectly innocent.
You know, really innocent innocent to anyone who's not a
filthy mind. Like yeah, that's not very.
Yeah. Yeah.
But we see that we see the carpentry class.
Well the rehabilitation classes where there's a carpentry class
and art class and Angelina is in the middle of well he's teaching
safecracking isn't need to Loop of men group of prisoners.
Anyway this setup for the film is such a I mean they don't so
wonderful here and it's been imitated or predict predated
this phone. So many times, the sort of
element of a gang of people who got something one way.
And then someone comes in and tries to upset, it is a lot of
the Carry on films are a bit like that.
Yes. And then later on things that
even Police Academy is a bit. You know what I mean?
Is that sort of yeah you get to know the individual characters
and then they have to deal with with something which disturbs
the setups upsets the equilibrium.
Yeah exactly. Yeah.
In fact you've just reminded me because obviously wrong arm of
the law. Hmm.
Sellers is with a gang, you know.
He's he's the head of a gang. Yeah.
Essentially there's another film that we covered on this show.
Several months ago, which is a great film called after the fox
early. Yes, which but who is the fox?
I am a fox which has a very lacks prison at the beginning of
it. I haven't seen for a very long
time. I can't remember much about I
get my love with the Bobo in my head.
Oh yes, the baby was where he's got a blue face for most of them
but in the in after the fox, I'll do the new Chi which is a
character that sellers plays. Xin Chao Chi, he's in prison.
At the beginning of the film. It's such a lacks prison.
That he is supplying Contraband to the prison visitors.
You know what I mean? And the prison wardens are just,
you know, they just half-wits useless than, you know, they
don't care. But yeah again and that film he
is a he is the head of a gang. So as the head of a gang and I
love the scene in getting back to his church, when they're in
the in the rear, but the ladies are visiting, the rehabilitation
classes, and we see Ted care or the ACT.
Ted Carol now, This is the guy with the with the really
misshapen knows who's posing let's try for the art class.
Yes and as a lady passes him Dodger, Strokes the back of his
leg and he got him week six weeks.
Hello darling. And did you recognize that?
The Allied, don't know, I didn't know because he said please.
I mean, no, disrespect to take Carol.
I mean, he might have been get right?
Because Ted, Carol was famous for having a misshapen a large
misshapen knows because he'd been a rugby union player.
Hello. Yeah.
I mean, it did look like it's been doing either that or boxing
or yeah, it's into brick walls was, you know, he sustained a
really bad injury and his nose was bent into an Angle after
playing, sorry, not Rugby Union rugby league in the 50s, and,
but he was in Flash Gordon and an ending, has as well.
See ya? Oh, they don't mean he's one of
these people is, you know, make make make the most of what you
got, I guess. Yeah, if you wanted someone to
go Hello, darling and look at it and he's your first book.
Well, mind you having said that after my light is also in this
film. So yeah, it will come on.
That. Yeah, because that is one of my
favorite scenes little scenes that that seen a load, the the
dialogue in. That's the Millard seen as I
call it. Oh, that's what letter.
Yeah, it's funny and we've got a pre Garnet Warren Mitchell.
Being very Jewish. Yeah, just a little bit, just a
little bit to touch ya crazy. Just say she's matter.
Anyway there's something that none of the prisoners are
wanting for any Resources, are they in these classes?
He's got the very best material for making these bespoke suits
because he's fitting as a suit for Lenny.
That's right. Yeah.
And it looks like he's got a lovely waistcoat, which he wears
when he gets out as. Yeah.
Yeah, they sort of sparkling number 0.
And and of course we've got the ladies walking around and then
David Lodge making eyes at Barrel.
Read was a little bit disturbing than a few.
I know. Well, I, I mean, this is such a
economical and Swift film. They don't dwell on the
privations of the prison service for too long.
True. But one thing, one thing you do
get occasionally in porridge, is that, you know, they just so
desperate for the side of any female flesh.
But, you know, even the sight of District nurse going past on a
bike? Yes, Rouse them.
If you know what I mean, I guess it's a very quick shorthand way
of doing that. This isn't buried slightly
flirty back as well and she is. She is.
Yeah, if I told you this, I don't think I did and I played
on a cruise liner a long time ago.
I think this looks stunning in the 90s.
So it's 96 or so, I met this older lady as the passengers,
all tended to Hmm, and some reason we got talking about, you
know, 50s and 60s culture and stuff.
And, first of all, she said, well, of course, I was in love
with Ronnie Barker for 30 years. I mean, she didn't say it, well,
that went. Well, I just said she'd had an
affair with Sellers and not only that she said that, but of
course he was gay. And he was what, what I think he
was and she said, I know you didn't, he was he was with this
because he was at his own off on again off again boyfriend.
He was with his friend from the army, they used to go
everywhere. Together, everyone, you and I
never quite got to the bottom of it.
And I was only there for a week and then, she vanished, never
found that even a name. Unfortunately, she was a dancer
from that slimy. I know it's quite a weird.
It can't be large that well can it?
I dunno. I think she'd made that is so
convinced those who she was. The elbow and he just eats the
excuse I gave. It was the 60s with Ronnie
Barker? Instead another Parish link cost
to us. Yeah, anyway, that was stuck
with me because she did seem so convincing but anyway, I'll
never know. Yeah, I mean, the only other
person that could have been exposed was Graham Stark as he
was. Yes, it is so weak that prefer
it to be David Lodge, but I don't I'm sure, I'm sure there's
no truth in that at all. No, I mean there's There's a lot
of Camp humor and with sellers, but that's company with everyone
really. So the camera is made of it and
leave married for sure. Girl, so that I could have been
a smokescreen of puss. What's that was just say what
you? Like.
You could say a lot of things about Summers and many people
have Roger, Lewis Chief among them.
Yeah. But there's never been any any
indication of any kind of inclination that way?
No, he hasn't nothing's coming out anywhere from the strange
lady that I'm Mountain. The boat.
He's a world Authority on Salle's.
It was exactly peccadilloes. Exactly.
Anyway, never mind. So what's your opinion of
Wilfred? Hi, Dwight.
Well, I think he's great in this film.
Yes, yes, I think because he's got this sort of slightly
knowing seeding us to him, which And when he's being purely,
avuncular it is since there's a little bit of undercurrent of
sedition that, you know, what I mean, yesterday is fantastic
with its little doubting eyes from side to side and slightly
mistrust with a device out there.
Yes, starting is perfect perfectly cost in this you get
second billing, doesn't it is that because it was just Yes.
I mean, I suppose he's he's one of these, one of the main parts.
I mean, because Lionel Jeffries who makes one of the biggest
impacts of the film, he's not probably in it that much.
She just isn't a for half an hour.
It should have 75 minute film isn't, you know, it's quite a
wonderful film. We are not in.
And even after that, he's not in every scene.
No, but impact is so huge that you think he's a bit more, don't
you? Because he says so memorable.
Yeah. I like well for dog bites
performance in this, I think it's perfectly suited to him.
You want him to be as I say you wanted me to be a bit underhand
and and knowing and he does the very well.
He sees a bit like a sort of downmarket Professor Marcus from
the ladykillers. Yes he is.
Such lie. Well I just remember Wilfred how
white from think yeah to a two-way stretch of God's sake I
remember to with I remember him for two-way stretch dealer but
days ago my fair lady and And yes and two episodes of Columbo
playing essentially the same carat every everything.
I see him in more or less. He plays his own character.
Whereas, whereas in this yes, he more or less is playing the same
character but he just seemed to be playing it better and he
play, he plays the part of soapy Stevens.
Yeah really really well. And we come to learn that he was
part of the gang that that makes up Dodger jelly and Lenny but he
he Was in court. Yeah, the last big job.
Those three ended up in prison while so for years soapy was the
only one with an alibi and there's some suggestion that
maybe he shot them to the. Yeah, to the police it, which
goes very stupid. I mean, again, jumping ahead a
little bit. His comeuppance is very stupid
of him. To be honest, you could stories.
We've got away with it. We'll come on to that.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean right away and I don't know what point of the film
we're in here. How many minutes?
It's it were out. We're probably maybe what 10, 15
minutes in front of the film and he's met Dodger.
He's, you know, he's, he's he's managed to convince the governor
that he's a well clergyman and he's come to visit.
Hmm. Three of his former parishioners
and he gets to have a meeting with dr.
Dodger and Bochy wants to Punch him up the throat.
Listen, he basically, yeah, but he placates him by sowing the
seeds of the idea of a plan breaking out of prison and then
breaking back into provide the perfect Alibi and he just, you
know, he just leaves out there and you think well, does he
because it's not it's not quite clear or maybe I missed
something. But the plan, how they actually
do get out, was that is that? So please plan, was it Doug just
Bland Plant this evening, indulge, it came up with it
because he's a dungeon, like that's bull don't you don't?
You takes a lot of the credit. Yeah.
For the plan that I think so, because I think so becomes up
with the, the idea of, who to Rob, what to Rob, how to rob the
actual. The diamond van is it weird?
But that Dodger comes up with the idea of how to get out of
the prison. Yeah, but he does take a lot of
the Dodger does take a lot of the credit for because at one
point There's the bit where soapy tells Dodger that the the
jewels are worth like two million pounds.
That's right. I mean, it got to 1 million
years. How much is it worth?
I thought you might ask that one.
You are bad. Too many quick 1 million quid.
That's right. I love when they have to go out
to the Quarry to get some rocks for the death of that for the
Governor's garden and you've just loafing around.
And and then the governor comes out and says that it's visiting
our and we kept to I Really handle.
And the wonderful is Fraser Island - yeah.
And reunites because they played mother and daughter in.
All right. Jay sellers was the older
generation in that sellers, sellers was mr.
I really had is that like, yeah, but where do you think about it?
It just within two years. Well, the going the other way as
well. Two years later, use the
generation younger. Yeah.
And I don't, I don't quite a couldn't quite get whether
Ethel, which is the Liz Fraser character.
Who's, who's engaged to Dodger? I think she's his betrothed.
I'm not sure if she meant to be, I really had those daughter in
this or its own other words as she leant his sister, as I can
quite understand that. You're absolutely right.
It's slightly unclear, isn't it? Yeah.
Is there any handle? Definitely any News Mum?
Yeah, she's his mother. So so is it just that she's
cussing us out of maternal I ever lose Fraser?
They arrive together and then their will, and they'll seem to
be in the same Same flat later on.
Yeah. But I think that's I think
that's a piece flat. That looks to market to be
either their handles. Yeah, flat.
Yeah. Well maybe maybe that's it.
Then you're right. It is slightly slightly, one lie
and also for, you know, for such a lacks prison.
They get a Stern talking-to by one of the waters before.
The actual visiting time begins visiting our begins, they they
get out. They get a warning that there
mustn't be any kind of exchange of any Contraband or anything
like that. Yes.
Which ends up happening anyway but you just the does seem to be
a bit of unexpected rule-breaking well and enforcing
an expected role in forcing. Yeah, I mean it's drawn very
quickly these Strokes. We don't quite know how they'll
set up Works doing, I guess. I mean, let's let's sort of
running rings around the warden be He'd sort of knows a bit of
what they're doing and they all everyone seems to just want a
quiet life, really, doesn't it? Yes.
Well, budget particularly because we have dodging, the
dodging, couldn't care less about Ethel.
Let's face it. No, I mean, he glances down her
cleavage. That's about do that.
Yeah, yeah. But then, yeah, when he gets
out, he just keeps pushing her away.
She's all over him and you think well, it's this.
Yeah. She's prese, this razor. 1960.
What you doing? Yeah, I couldn't find.
I know I've read somewhere, get, it's not in love, not found it
in the Lewis book but I have read somewhere that is Fraser
claimed that sellers tried it on with her and she she pretty much
cut and Shore. She made it very clear, very
early on that, nothing was going to happen and I think he just
accepted that and everything was fine after that, you know, who
Tony rewrote it in his mind. And yes, yes, yes.
Very good in this. She's very, she's funny in this
And, you know, she's very Winsome in this film as well.
She is, she is he clears Fraser should issue, of course, is
responsible. She because there is a
pre-arranged distraction to distract the prison boy, so that
they can so that you could the visitors can toss the cigarettes
and cakes and all the rest of it all over, you know, over to the
prisoners. Which means that I really
handled come with some dummy. Implements that she dropped when
she stood up saying and she had a sit-down poke it.
Then later on. She's got some more stuff.
It hasn't fallen another skirts which you can then check out.
Yeah, never thought of that. Yeah, yeah, it's this film is
all about distractions as now because like, we've got the
bigger we got, we got Liz Fraser, distracting the prison
Warder. We've got eight on the film when
they later distracting, the dustman.
Yes. Yeah, absolutely.
And that brought to mind the film clockwise.
Oh yes. That same from clockwise.
When she trying to thumb down a left by showing you better leg,
but you got soapy when he's disguised as a, when he drives
the fake Black Mariah into the prison.
He's distracting the guard while the others get into the back.
Yes. And and then there's they, and
then in the the governor's office when they're trying to
get the jewels out the safe at the end.
Lenny has a stage as a fit to distract Governor.
All about distractions, isn't it?
Hey Clara. And then and then we but we had
that wonderful very short scene without them aloud and is.
That's why for the baby how old is he now?
We need a nearly two years. Oh, yes, Fred.
But you sent me some lovely letters.
I fear for the two of them, when he gets out I really did be back
inside very soon and yeah that's the way I think that.
I mean think prison is a brutal place so I understand and you
don't get really get a sense of that except every so often
occasionally with sellers himself because he could be
quite threatening when you want to do like in never let go man.
Yeah time. And when he wants to menacing
and in the Naked Truth as well, he's quite scary.
Yes, he is. It's tens new terms.
That turns it on its, it's very daunting and he does that
occasionally. I Can't Remember To whom
probably too. So badly but yeah I think it is
so pretty and it is too sleepy. Yes, yeah, yeah.
And if n if he hadn't had those heart attacks in the mid-60s and
if you move, if he'd lived another 20 years and if he'd
really be triggered as an actor in say the late 80s, early 90s
and taken on more dramatic roles.
Mmm. You could just imagine him
winning an Academy Award. Yeah.
For some for some villain in, you know, not a comedy piece but
some actual villain People have suggested Hannibal Lecter.
You know, it's somebody could all that's the nice thing is, we
didn't couple of wanted him in Godfather to.
That seems really maybe in Roger Lewis book, maybe think it was
the part that went to Lee Strasburg the method gurus.
Oh, right. I think, I think I'm right.
I know the bet you I know the real.
You mean. Yeah.
But there's so many what ifs with his career honor.
Yeah, yes. So many good films.
He should have made in so many bad films.
He shouldn't have exactly. Yeah.
And so many films, which are better than they should be.
Yeah, then forgotten at all. Ever Lipton.
Yes. Compromised in some way to make
not classic. You know what I mean?
I mean, if he'd been in the producers because he was
obviously, Mel Brooks did want him in the producers?
Yeah, I forget. Which way.
Although was it that was at the zero mustela was at the gene
while the role can't remember, which role the thought zero,
mostel Anew. Because, who's suppose, yeah,
push in his forties but lay it flat.
Yes. Him and Gene Wilder.
Oh my God. Amazing.
Oh my God. And as you probably know a lip
VA wanted him to be king lear's. All right.
I didn't know that. Yeah that would be no Larry's.
Let me. Anyway, so we get to the, we get
to the, we get to the plot that so Joker and Batman.
You can sorry. He probably could have the
penguin penguin. Yeah.
So please come up with this plot
of this plan. So we've got the Sultan of some
indeterminate country. Exactly.
A, and it is one of the wealthiest man in the world in.
This is Diamond Jubilee. Next month, and he very much
McGuffin, isn't it really? Yeah, he keeps his diamonds and
jewels in the UK in Britain for safekeeping.
Because in 1960, Britain was considered and unimpeachable.
Yes. All work against corruption I
suppose and yesterday and it was safe as houses to keep your
money here and and every now and then the line from Doctor Who
robot runs journalist line. Of course the Brigadier style.
Of course, the only country that could trust.
It was Britain. The doctor says of course, while
the rest of them were all foreigners one day, And so to
the soul to the parody of every now and then he's put on some
large scales and Wade with his diamonds.
Yeah. I mean it doesn't really matter.
I don't quite understand. Is it supposed to be the he's
gained weight or is that is something the same way too?
And if it doesn't, really matter does, it doesn't really matter.
It's just like so makes pretty interesting image of the end of
the film. Well, you have come to that and
so there's going to be two. So, next month on the 28th of
the month of this can be an armored van.
Transporting the his jewels and diamonds.
I say, jewels and diamonds all the time, but Jewels are
diamonds. Are diamonds are Jewels, aren't
they? I don't know the same thing.
Yeah, yeah. That'll do interchangeable to
get a armored van will be transporting them from London to
Portsmouth with an army, escort and Dodger and the lad to do to
be released the day after. So, there they were in London,
we have an oath the prisoners in London.
I think say that the stationary then you've come from London or
something. All the station, the station is
Windsor's Windsor, but I think it might be standing in for
London. I could be right on this.
You certainly seem double-decker buses in the background.
I guess, I'm not sure because of, but the thing is though, so
they need to steal the diamonds on its Journey.
On the journey between London and Portsmouth.
Mmm. It's the prisons in London, then
they have to stop the Convoy pretty quickly.
Yeah. To get back to make sure that
they can get back to the president.
I'm I think it's a bit sad that I shouldn't worry about the
logistics too much. No no yeah no no that's worrying
me. How light it is?
We're going to him. Got back here.
Yes, that's true summer. I was thinking about this the
timeline because I'm so pleased says, I'm the reason I didn't
have a cigarette earlier. It was lent and the warden takes
that has been fine of cousin, is it?
So it was after easterner. Yes.
So, light morning, so that's fair enough.
It would be light at five in the morning and also director out
the exercise yard, you know. And it looks quite.
Yeah, it doesn't look like it's been raining or doesn't look
like it's been snowing. So although the trouble is a
black and white films is that the skies are always great.
She said you never quite Tell Drew What drew me, though.
It's a bit. How do they?
I'm quite got there yet. So let's, I won't jump ahead,
but I just there's a slight bit of wand-waving to get them off
the, the, the dust fan back into the cell.
Oh yeah. And how does he get the diamonds
into the governor's safe? I don't understand.
I don't understand, I didn't know they were in my thought,
I'd miss them know, certainly that we see we see Wait, let's
just get to the let's just get somewhere where we seek route
for the first time at the gun when I can say it.
I know. I know.
So Sydney Kraut is a whipcord thin sadistic bully of a manís.
It's Lionel Jeffries in his best role.
I would I would argue every looks amazing.
It's never seen him look quite so exaggerated.
He looks like a Ronald cell drawing.
It does, it does. He's been transferred, he's been
promoted and he's transferred to Huntley as chief chief officer
because Jenkins is retiring. And obviously he arrives and
everybody. Well everybody knows him, Dodger
know him and yeah and he knows that he's bad news.
Sauerkraut is the nickname it's great that the prison's got so
lacks that dungeon lets him in with the keys of from Frank.
Yeah it's a brilliant short and wave.
Informing crowd, you know, the state of the prisoners just
arrived. That is he says, I'm a doctor
says, I'm a trustee to trustee. I wouldn't trust you with your
own Grandma, but obviously Dodger recognizes that if krauts
with crowds coming to to work at the prison and things are going
to change. Yeah.
Dramatically and and runs back dash back to the cell tells the
others and they have to clear, clear the Pretty much stuff
away. Everything that looks like any
signs of domestic Comfort. They have to sort of yeah, get
rid of and there's a wonderful scene where crowd comes in and
does the cell inspection? Yes, oh no.
This is about the nastiest. Little collection of villanies
I've seen in one cell for a long time.
Dr. Lane bruh. Start by the way, whatever
happened to that Mater, yours. You know, the one who tried to
flag a couple of aircraft carriers soapy something rather
what was it? So P Stevens.
I didn't know nothing about it. Oh, here's another one mr.
Jelly night, another old acquaintance, never to be forgot
quarter. The old, safe blowing lock
again. I suppose I do Oh no.
Is a nasty evil little face. I've not met before, who's this?
Then that's Lenny. The dip pickpocket.
Are you? Come here?
I'll soon teach you to keep your thieving the lands to yourself.
What are you gentlemen, about it pretty cushy up to Narnia
fretwork classes basket, weaving.
Well, that is not my idea of how to run a prison.
Is it mr. Lee now Jean, oh, gee.
Well, from now on remember this it's my ideas that can't
understand. By the way, long is it since
you've got a spell in the Quarry, a quarry, the Quarry.
Now he works in the Quarry. Search been closed for years.
Is it really? Yeah, that's it.
Well, I'm personally inviting you to the grand reopening
ceremony. That'd be nice, wouldn't it?
Monday morning and he's not impressed by the governor's
philosophy. Is he?
Because I know the governor is sort of saying that well, I see
the prisoners as a sort of family and he stresses the
benefits of Rehabilitation and crowd at Lee Phelps, just you
can see, crowds would have bristling and he says, he does,
he squirms and he was sort of he wants to shake the The prison of
a little bit. There's almost what he does to
the film in a way because it's the first 25 minutes or so have
been very entertaining that sort of quite cozy and everyone in
their local channels and suddenly this mad cartoon of a
character appears. Yeah.
And I'm settling way and you really it changes the dynamic
instantly. I mean you presuming you know,
something like that is going to happen because it has to, but he
almost feels like a performance from another.
I'm listening, he does Ed, as we know from books, like the Roger
Lewis book, supposedly allegedly.
And I can believe it sellers felt a bit put out by, hmm,
Jeffrey's performance and you can see why.
Yes. And he apparently said until the
building Brothers, he thought it was a bit over the top or
something. I don't know.
But then he goes on to work with them again and wrong arm of the
law and yeah, Prisoner of Zenda sending.
Yeah, so, you know, I know I think she's quite often looking
for these. Yes, he is.
Yeah, I mean, like you say it's great turn of phrase, Roger
Lewis, but sometimes you think, I mean I've I've read stuff that
he's written his book about the Goon show period and that
there's stuff in there, that's wrong.
Yeah. What's wrong, you know?
Yes, about Banting, for example. Yeah.
And and just, and just facts, and I just think, oh, that's
wrong. But it's very entertaining me
wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the legend.
Yes. Yeah.
Now The governor gets his marrow squashed.
Yes. Bye.
So obviously crowd has reopened the query and we have this
sequence where there's too much Dynamite, which causes a massive
explosion. And astray Rock has dislodged by
the explosion is travel, quite a distance and smashed the
governor's, mouth deadlier. This is almost like the most
traditional British comedy part of the film.
You know what I mean? Are they getting run over?
Iran. The main villain.
Yes, we always carry out early carry on films are full of this
sort of thing. Yeah.
And and and and and the fact
that crowd has been caught in the face of this, massive
Dynamite explosion. You know.
But he's not killed. No, he knows.
He's tattos or shredded slightly staggering Yeah, but the yeah
and obviously the governor is outraged by this and squarely,
lays the blame on crowd shoulders and he does that
little he's talking about when he when he when he because the
COS soapy turns up in the guise of the vicar again and the
governor talks about his loss losing the marrow and he does,
it thing was a little finger where he says you know attended
it from what it was this size and again that just seems so
suggestive than that it really. Is this isn't that the name of
was? What happened to his?
We call this Finger, probably drop the rock on it.
Well, that's that one as well. That is explains, all of that.
Someone dropped a rock on his penis.
We've got the wood, we got a reference to the wooden horse,
which is a fantastic film, two films, actually reference them,
this film The Wooden horse and danger with in.
Yes, both set in prisoner-of-war camps and both I think cracking,
particularly wooden horse. Must watch their, you really
must watch the wooden horse at least.
Yeah. That's I mean, I know the trips
of the Yeah, you know, the soil down the under the vaulting
horse and then download trouser legs, that's it.
So they obviously they build this would, this vaulting horse
and in order to escape by digging a tunnel and it doesn't
work. And there's you know, again
Jolly Japes where trout ends up going down this tunnel when
emerging into the governor Governor's Rose Garden.
Yes. All right.
Porridge, Nick's a bit of this as well.
I'm sure I can't quite remember, it's a while since I've seen it.
I'm sure there's a bit where There's a tunnel under the
Prairie ground and Makai ends up discovering it by stamping too
hard or something. I'm sure.
There's something somehow, I don't remember that whatever you
want to be almost as well in like me.
But yeah, Allison and then I guess that, you know, certain
tropes, which gets redone so called.
Yeah, exactly. And then they're in the there,
in the shower room and I were racing through this, but it's,
you know, the shower room, toilet block, and jelly talks
about the film danger within which again, Is great room and
says that in that Feller. And it had a theory that all
drains lead to the outside so they ordered Lenny being small,
Lenny is obviously the most Junior, most Junior of the three
is ordered to go down into the into the drains and this effect
of the film. I didn't understand its purpose,
right? So then he's going to he's
protesting but he's going down into the drains and then there's
this gentleman. This guy in glasses comes out of
the toilet cubicle. Yeah it says watch Lenny doing
and Dodgers is always trying to find out whether drain goes
lawyer. And then and then he goes off
and I understand what that bit was full know, I've forgotten
that it doesn't have a payoff at all.
There's no payoff and I don't understand.
This is a reference to something that we this long forgotten.
Now I don't know the ending because it's because he's a
lawyer but, you know, maybe. Yeah.
The face is called lawyer in the credits, as well as in it
because it is it's the joke that he's a lawyer, who's obviously
crooked and he's ended up in science that oh well I guess so.
But then why was that It was learning in the drawings, I
don't know. Maybe, there's maybe they went
too far now. To cut it out, then it was
lenses, non-sequitur, it is getting slightly revolting.
A little bit, you know, not the hudsucker proxy, that's that
film. Where he crawls out of the
visual sign Shawshank Shawshank Redemption.
This is that great line where you hear the screen, we have the
forward slash and then Dodger says, we should never have let
him do it not without a paddle and you just fear rest of that
gag. That's right.
And then the next thing is all these clothes are hung up.
Yeah, shivering this if it isn't it and that's where Dodger comes
up with the idea of phony Black Mariah in order to get them out.
And they've got will be the picture news dispatched with a
message. Never heard about that pigeon
because it hasn't been mentioned before.
It's just been in a tiny wooden box.
Like a cat lurking around. Yeah, and I was a criminal as
well. You never know Wilbur, walks to
Irina. Handles, was not, I really
understood that. I think it's, we So P Stevens.
Yeah. And and, and they find out that
dodgy wants a black Mariah. And and then we see later from
from the vantage, point of the flat balcony.
Yeah. I keep saying Irina and I'll
call her. Mum.
Mum is spying on the Army's preparations and again, it's
slightly confused as to where I thought it was the bank of
England because it looks a bit like it, but I don't think it
is. I think it's just know it was
the port of London Authority, building at ten trance where
London? Oh.
Oh, okay. And did you recognize the
commanding officer in this kernel part from it?
No, to be frank. Okay, Solly holding.
Walters yes, salty Waters. Had the name that I don't
remember what else. I may have seen him in there.
Well, the thing about him and he's been in loads of voted most
of those films, like, around this time but he'd been
seriously considered for the part of Captain mannering in
Dad's Army. And you can kind of see how he
might have played the character a bit in this because he's a bit
pompous isn't. It's a bit Posh of those than
honoring truth. I suppose he could have turned
that down for the yeah, it does. Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah. And so they've got the special
route that they sit there seems to be some sort of conflict
between the Army and the Met police don't quite.
Yeah. Stan.
That, but but the Army Convoy sets off and then we've got
Ethel following them. In the car with that is true and
apparently lives Fraser couldn't drive when this was being made.
So in the scene where she's followed drives off and follows
the Army Convoy, that apparently there was a rope attached to the
front of the car that she's driving Towing her away.
You know what I mean? You can't say no but then but I
just need CGI to get rid of it. Yes, painted over, but I but I
dispute that because I'm sure that later on in the films,
Actually do Silas Fraser driving the Black Mariah briefly and
there are all escaping the scene of the crime to Desert.
There is a point where Sophie gets out and she takes over
drives off, unless unless she was just sat on a little magnet
who was pressing the accelerator in Christ.
Only tell you that it also was in the running jumping and
sending still film. Yes, I was going to say Q
alumnus as well as an inch and Show called Fred he was in that.
Yeah yeah. Yeah.
And what wasn't matter your fat bleep see also another?
Yes. He was part of the Summers
Coterie. He was part of this, right?
Yes. Yeah, he names his baby after
the governor as Australia, ratios it.
Yes. And so we see the escape with
allowed to removing the hinges from the sold or which the
hinges are inside the cell. I mean, yeah.
Hmm. With and also the lock on the
door makes another perfect. Hinge.
Don't dwell on it, so dodgy refers to as breaking and
exiting. So that was quite nice and then
when soapy turns up disguised in the Black Mariah and rings the
bell at the gates and says that he's got six prisoners to
deliver. Mmm, he describes them and I
wrote this down. Oh yes, there's one.
Well, the last So I'm gonna show you another.
This is weird. He said so that so the guards
are so who have you got in the back?
He says okay I've got three loan Club secretaries I don't know
what that is. I don't know.
It's some sort of, I mean obviously I guess particular
sort of people that would be considered as untrustworthy as.
Yeah. Hedge fund managers or
something. Yes these days.
Yeah to bigamous and a female impersonator.
Seems a bit harsh. Something else and I like to
see you later. Last time I saw you.
And so p. And one thing we forgot to
mention is that crowd keeps bumping into 2 so p.
And yeah, and almost recognizing him.
Yeah. So, I mean, it's it's one of
those films where they could so easily have got away with it
much. I mean, this, well, there's a
couple of moments like that, but this is so frustrating.
Every time you wash it, you want them to this type of, don't be
so stupid. Yes, yes unfortunately.
And that's what that showed actual plot.
The actual Heist. The Caper, the combination of
the Caper is this, is this, they set up this erect like this road
game Diversion thing with a test.
That's very clever. That's all it was.
I did think it was the only bum note in this film.
I thought though and thought it was a scene that could have done
without was the bit outside. The but the Army outside the
pub, where the woman throws a bucket of water on her.
It's all he makes his flare gun. Yes.
Yeah, that's that's very close to the early carry on at me and
there's a lot of DNA in common. I guess that would have been a,
you know, what happened to Ted Ray or Bob monkhouse?
Yes, that's right. The plan itself is executed
without a hitch. It is quite ingenious.
There's this there's this, what you call that a large net and a
winch and well that's that's quite a lover, you know?
Because they probably subtler things I could have done Which
would've been easier I suppose? It's yeah.
For a film. You want something quite?
Well, it relies on everybody doing exactly what you expect
them to do. Yeah, if the if the leading
party you know, the leading Jeep.
Yes, that is that what exactly the right place for correcting
out of the drains? Exactly.
They hadn't stopped there. Then everything would have been
discovered. Yeah, but that's the way it is
in film Capers, isn't that okay? Everything has to be?
Has to go just right, so that The plane goes off without a
hitch, they get the jewels and we mentioned again, you know,
they need to somehow stop this, this bin Lorry so that the lads
can jump in the back. Yeah.
Been in Larry's on its way back into.
Hm prison Huntley. So Ethel pretends that she's
broken down and of course the Larry stop is a bum-out wondered
why they made such a point of, I really handle being there with a
with a bad teeth. I was thinking, perhaps she's
forced her presence as for strolling.
Any funny, business From the Rough bin men, if you know what
I mean, Otis Otis protecting protecting.
Ethel is minimal. So yeah.
Well yeah, yeah, yeah. Is like a lot of the Dynamics of
the whole film is certainly some racially insensitive language we
glossed over, so I'm glad we've done that.
Oh yes, we've been Kruger saved. We get, we get the three quick
scene where sellers, I'm sure sellers insisted that he was not
to be covered in potato, peelings and food scraps from
Fred's calf and they dumped it back of the bin Lorry and it as
you said before somehow or other, they get back into the
prison cell. Being secreted, the jewels in
the governor's safe, they get back into bed.
Yeah and immediately have to get up.
We didn't have to get on. This is the morning.
Mmm. Yeah this is where I think
there's a little bit of papering over the cracks is in the last
sort of 15 minutes of the film and fair enough, because it
moves it sauce and lick that are really argue with it but that
could have been, you know, I think there's room for a little
bit more here and there just for nesting.
It may be Because they had another they could have is they
got a stretcher to the enormous lengths of 90 minutes.
Just by exactly another 12 minutes of action, are they
going to be more fun to be had? I mean again, who knows long
time ago and films made in a different way and we should be
grateful. This is good as it is.
Maybe. Yeah.
The you almost.
You almost think that this is the end of the film.
I always, I always seem to think it is a kind of wrongly think
this is more. Unless the end of the film, it's
not, as it's the bit where they have to, they managed to get the
jewels out of the governor's safe without the governor's
seeing well ads, you've paid your debt to society.
You can now consider yourselves free men, but before you go
And I want you to be the dominant trait.
Christmas Mom, we're coming down.
But when my mom mom get cooking Booyah, get a cookie on Pizza
Oven, love it. It does, you can come, you can
never let your foot in and you can come in even and some
turkey. We're free free as mentally
unhinged him to get some more freedoms.
A heady wine. Soon you'll be with your dear
Mother. I think the sooner we get him in
the fresh air the better? Yes, a good idea!
Where put them in front of the bus with the window open ass.
Don't you think we better go in your car in the circumstances
for? Oh no, leave it to me.
The bat has been in every way. I actually it's yes.
Well, we better get started. You know, they think their home
and dry and they and then soapy says, well, we're going to get a
bus from the prison to the station because there's
roadblocks and then stop and car.
So, we're getting the bus. But of course the governor for
Reasons is traveling with them and of course, kraut.
The reasons got address my luggage.
Yes. Yeah.
Because that's, that's another point, right?
So did plan this weeks in advance and groundspeed there
for weeks? So, why is he sweet attempted
originally? The Jenkins was leaving the
night they before they leave. Oh yes, that's true.
Those telescope time. It's like a fellow or something
everything happens to couldn't blink.
I don't know, we should do a timeline and a map of what's
happening in Syria to make sense of it.
I think that would be failed Pursuit another sellers film,
which I prefer to this is the ladykillers just because it's
such a brilliant film. Generally, I know it's not start
at the start of it, but using it.
Yeah, major role. And a lot of adenoma, is
reminiscent of the lady Colonels, but not quite so
clever or classic, you know what I mean.
It involves trains and involved. Final in the sense of people.
Yes. Yeah.
Well, exactly, yeah. And that it's, you know, so p is
a slight Professor Marcus as I say and the fact that they've so
close to getting away and it's just little things trip them up
something. Well, that's that's because
there was a, there was a rule, wasn't there in for the longest
time that films couldn't end with villains?
Profiting. Yeah.
So you couldn't allow a bad character or yeah.
But that's why the end of the Lavender Hill mob which could so
easily be in getting away with it.
Yes. To frame it with him telling his
story to a policeman be another way.
Yeah. Yeah.
Even though even though he has really got away with it.
Yes. So yeah.
And anything that filmed I'm thinking films like kind hearts
and coronets. Yeah films like that they can
never get away with it I suppose.
At least in this from the out free at the end of it.
Poppin soapy, aren't they? Yes, it poetic justice that so
presented a show. If, I mean, it wasn't quite
clear. If as you say, if you were
setting them up again or if he shut them off the first time or
if he's just stupid because he does, as I said earlier, just
give himself away much doing easily.
Yeah. Because he's convinced the
krauts recognize them. So he's going to somehow Shake
him off. Don't quite understand his
thinking here, but Kraut does recognize it and a party.
Oh, that's why the governor's going to the station is to meet
a party of loads of Vickers for? Yes, again for reasons.
Yeah. And the lads Dodger in jelly and
many, they love and Jarrett crowd as the train departs and
krauts left impotently fuming on the platform and then likes a
soapy sees the back of him think.
So, Station master or something, and calls out, and then these
nabbed. And he's next thing we see, he's
him in strange ways are looking sadly out the prison cell
window. Yeah, but that's not the last
thing we see, I don't know. If you've got the scene on the
train with Lenny, has to get up onto the roof.
Again, let me being the junior has to get up on the trailer
roof with their fault because when I watched it earlier today,
I hadn't seen for such a long time.
I'd completely forgotten about all this and I thought, wow,
this is going to be amazing high velocity of train.
The new mark, The end of it. And I look like pause the film
and I saw there any to Rudolph minutes left or that James Bond
film that I forget. Is it from Russia with its
restroom and love ya. But also inspired love me.
He's got a bit of that as our yeah.
Yeah. And and and in trying to get
ready down from the roof, with the sack of jewels Dodger slips
and the sack falls falls Into a mail net.
Is that what they call it at a passing stare?
So many of us think that films because they died out a long
time ago. Yeah.
So then and there, you got these two posted on the plat station
platform one. Who looks a lot like Ken
Campbell but isn't looking astonished as the jewels begin
raining down on a platform. And then, yeah, then we have the
very final little scene which is this weighing ceremony of,
there's a lot of Arab looking people in the 10 years.
Yes. And then he rose and three of
them are prostrating themselves that the front knee raise their
faces. Yeah, look expectantly at the
jewels, but what is their plan? I mean, just look at it a bit
and then go, oh, well, back to work.
I don't think they're gonna get any better there, but I suppose
it's just a line gag ending isn't ready?
Yeah. It's not like a settings to a
stretch project. Three-way stretch.
Hmm, I think it's a neat enough ending.
So, this is under power, but in a wonderful way, he is letting
other people shine. I think we both agree that
Lionel Jeffries is probably the standout in this film he is.
Yeah, I do. I do that.
I was surprised as I say, I was surprised how little actual
screen time. He's got.
Yes, I'm not. So when he does get his
comeuppance has it almost felt that sort of slats tracks of
slight wrong. - you know what I mean?
Because he seems like such an elemental force of nature.
He shouldn't ever be, get had one got over on him.
You know what I mean? Yeah.
But then but then he does get, he gets the final laugh in the
sense because he and it just colors so P, doesn't he?
Yeah, he looks so gleeful when he does.
So so Jeremy. Thank you Tim.
Thank You For Speed. It's been a blast.
Thank you for coming along. It's been lovely and enabling me
to watch ourselves film during the day and claimed it was work
because can you claim on that? Can you claim anything for that?
I can claim it in my life actually like playing.
Ask me what I'm doing all day long work.
Suffer in any way. By the way, I want to thank Mark
cousins as well. For my guest of the show will be
a, will be a future guests and sellers expert, par excellence.
And he supplied me with a little bit of background information
about the film. So thanks Marco, they're eating
and so Jeremy. Have you got anything coming up?
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And also personally I'm in the middle of doing a couple of
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which is a true crime podcast than Australian for no apparent
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And and another one called carrion streaming, which is the
me, and Paul Litchfield off, Of the Trap and also many other
podcasts where we watch all the carry on Films.
You never seen before and discuss them.
Oh no, Dan. No down nose down in that one
though it was his idea and having had the idea he ducked
out on a womb back again. Don't carry on Corporal, carry
on vet carry on Milkman carrying Warden.
As I say you may not have seen them and part is going to be
doing carry on climbing stuff. You never knew you never knew.
Ariane be giggling. Oh, Karen giggling.
Yeah, we will cover the current giggling.
I don't mean that big 2074. Thanks against Jeremy next week.
It's another film and a bit of a podcast crossover.
So look out for that. In the meantime, put another
jump run, or if you're feeling especially daring, stick, the
heating on for half an hour, I'll see you all next week.
Bye.