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Sir, would you like a seat? 
Do please take one. 

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Would you prefer a ride on a 
magic carpet? 

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You would. 
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Sir, what's that? 
A bus is more in your line. 

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Not on my bus. 
Discrimination just for the fun 

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of it. 
Come to London, that's Swinging 

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City and see the sights. 
It's today's big laughter maker 

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Keith Charlie and 14 top line 
stars to show you why. 

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Here are just some of them. 
Michael Benteen is a sandwich 

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man in swinging London I. 
Want gold? 

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Harry H Corbett, the stage 
doorkeeper, A swinging 

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photographer. 
Bernard Cribbins, You'll meet 

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Diana Doors, Ian Henry and as a 
horty horticulturist, Stanley 

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Holloway. 
At the London Hilton you'll meet

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Wilfred Hyde White. 
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laugh with Michael Medwith. 
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I think I message you and went, 
oh, there's a film I think we 

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need to add to the list. 
And then about a month or two 

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later, you've got in touch 
Tyler, and we're like, oh, do 

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you want to come on Goon pod and
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Oh, OK, Which is really nice. 
Because I've been on OK, look, 

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we're talking or I may as well 
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Goon Pod. 
OK, because we're we're, we're 

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already talking about the film. 
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I'll just say I'm I'm delighted 
to be joined by Robert Heath or 

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Rob Heath and Guy Walker. 
The chaps behind the podcast of 

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Britcom goes to the movies. 
Hello, Tyler. 

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Thank you for having us on. 
Well, I was on your show, wasn't

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I recently talking about a Peter
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Which means I won't be able to 
cover it on this show, The Mouse

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That Roared. 
And you're on to talk about a 

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film that you won't be able to 
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Why don't you just put our 
episode on your RSS feed and we 

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can do some better numbers? 
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I could do that. 
I could do that. 

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Yeah, and if you want to do 
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ours. 
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you're a relatively new podcast.
You've only been going, what, 

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less than 12 months? 
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Just about 12 months now, isn't 
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Our anniversary is coming up, 
isn't it Rob? 

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first episode came out. 
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conceive the idea ages ago, guy.
And then we first spoke about it

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in August last year when I was 
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And then it very quickly 
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it? 
Yeah, we got our list together. 

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Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
It started off as an idea I had 

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probably during lockdown. 
I was want to do a podcast and 

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then we were just chatting about
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Weren't you when you were up 
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We were sat outside having a 
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and the next thing. 
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less than two months later, 
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doing our first episode. 
Lesbian Vampire Killers. 

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I think we made the we made the 
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very quickly before planning to 
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gone, if anything, too far the 
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in advance. 
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with such a crowd pleaser. 
Lesbian vampires. 

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Well, that's what we thought 
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don't, what? 
They want it's not big, So what?

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What? 
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Just give us a elevator pitch in
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about. 
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it as I I often heard Mark 
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and and the On the buses movies 
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exemplifier of the rule to 
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popular sitcom. 
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sitcom is always shit. 
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about this. 
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some spurious ways of attaching 
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classic British comedy films. 
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every every film to ATV series 
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about the film. 
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that. 
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classic middle-aged men would do
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in preference order. 
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vampire killers. 
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first bottom of the pile. 
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recording, bottom of the pile. 
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This is going out. 
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Well, I haven't seen it and I 
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It's got cordon in, isn't it? 
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So it's there, yeah. 
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What what have you learned along
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I think one of the big things 
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people who and who are good at 
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And I think that's the thing. 
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difficult medium to get right. 
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that the best, the better films 
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directors or hack might be a bit
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Terry Gilliam, aren't they? 
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proves what you're saying. 
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very kind of small patterns that
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with sitcom spin offs, as they 
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being the best versions of 
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the worst version. 
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We've said the same, didn't we, 
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House movie, which I know is a 
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as well. 
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something that comes up a lot. 
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Can we put to bed this canard 
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Can we put to put to bed that? 
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maybe 3 films and in fact 
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in Britain. 
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with John Rain from Smash Pod, 
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brilliant on your show as well. 
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expected. 
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foray into on the buses. 
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joke up to this point that we've
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OK, so hang on. 
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any on the buses? 
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Correct. 
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I just heard how bad it was. 
Maybe I was being a bit unfair 

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to call myself middle-aged. 
Tyler we're we're both 39, so 

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we're just below the threshold 
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generation of people who would 
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So John Rain, for example, is 
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You know, he's someone who 
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years older than us. 
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watching on the buses or even 
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And then by the time we were 
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Was it or tucked away on Granada

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men and motors maybe. 
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a more despicable, In fact, I 
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a more despicable human being in
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than than Jack from On the 
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I I've been trying to agree with
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Yeah, we're, we're asked to like
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And I think he's an asshole. 
Who, in the service of getting 

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There's absolutely no redeeming 
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which dead. 
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He's trying to do his job. 
He's got a job to do. 

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He wants people to, he wants the
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And what's wrong with that? 
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who's giving women the job to 
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But no, we're meant to hit him 
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Jess, he had, he has two 
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Blakey, there's obviously I hate

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you, Butler. 
There's also. 

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Isn't it marvellous, eh? 
Isn't it marvellous? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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one that we we, we watched. 
That was one that John had 

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recommended to us. 
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system. 
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after the 1st 5 minutes. 
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And there used to be a thing 
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And on on the buses, the actress
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Yeah. 
What's her name? 

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Anna. 
Karen was obviously made-up to 

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look. 
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domestic abuse going on in that 
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physical, but mental. 
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Aided and abetted by her mother 
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Yeah, her 50 odd year old 
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Yes, it was still pulling the 
Dolly birds. 

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Anyway, look, this isn't the On 
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thank you so much. 
We we kind of alluded to it 

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before I came on your show to 
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which is the remit of this show.
And you, you've come on my show 

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to talk about a film which would
be very much in your wheelhouse 

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in as much as it is it it, it 
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Michael Bentine's television 
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It's a square world. 
Basically. 

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It's a it's a film. 
How would I describe this? 

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It's got such a labyrinthine 
plot, so many, so many twists 

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and turns and subtle narrative 
misdirections that trying to sum

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it up in a pity few words is is 
not going to be easy. 

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But I'm going to give it a go. 
OK, so we're talking about the 

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1966 film The Sandwich Man 
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So a man walks around London one
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That's pretty much the film, 
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That's. 
It in a nutshell before you. 

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Watched it because you've never 
seen this film before and Fat 

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Rob, you'd never heard of it 
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Did you have any precon? 
Did you have any preconceptions?

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Did you have any Did? 
What did you expect going into 

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this film? 
I thought, I think, I thought 

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that it was going to be like 
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Where? 
Yeah, I. 

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Was expecting something a bit 
like that but I thought he was 

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literally made sandwiches so I 
thought he was like a guy trying

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to deliver sandwiches to people 
and it was like. 

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Following this this. 
Guy without looking into it. 

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So I was a bit surprised when it
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walking around London. 
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saw though, certainly in terms 
of structure. 

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You know, as you say, coming 
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sketches stitched together feel 
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And a similar way. 
I'm going to this may be 

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sacrilegious to a lot of people.
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in terms of structure, in a 
similar way to Holy Grail, which

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we recorded an episode of 
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of sketches stitched together 
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film, one done in a much better 
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I would suggest not. 
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like a lot of the sketches in 
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like a lot of the sketches in 
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sense. 
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great, and some of them I 
thought were badly conceived. 

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Yes, mediocre had have have you 
ever seen any episodes of What 

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Survive of It's a Square World? 
No, my dad used to talk about it

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a lot so and and still does, to 
be fair. 

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So I think he was a bit of a fan
so he would tell me about the 

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sketches. 
But when it came to kind of 

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researching for this episode, 
there's very little out there. 

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And I just listened to the the 
LP that is Square World. 

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Oh, OK. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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Produced by George Martin. 
Oh wow, very good. 

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Yeah, yeah, I, I, I enjoyed 
quite a bit of it. 

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To be fair. 
There's a lot of goon type 

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voices there in that there's 
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of the sketches that sounds like
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like William Cobbler's Mate as 
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Yeah, yeah. 
Which I was like, oh, and 

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there's another one that sounded
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So I was a bit kind of thrown by
those. 

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But yeah, I enjoyed it. 
Yeah, think about it. 

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There's there's not that many 
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But I would say he was very good
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adding the humour sometimes. 
Was it more of a challenge? 

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And so you'd find yourself 
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some of the sketches. 
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certainly wouldn't be laughing. 
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smirking or or much. 
Like he is throughout the film, 

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Yeah. 
Maybe thinking, well, you know, 

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because he because he's very 
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little things like that. 
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thinking that's clever the way 
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not actually finding it amusing,
you know, And I think with this 

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film, I don't really know what 
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mentee with this film 
essentially, apart from with one

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notable exception, he's just 
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around whom all the the hesitate
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all the action occurs. 
You know my. 

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Old friends. 
Sir Malcolm Moleskin. 

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Sir Mervin Moleskin, Ozil 
Mervin. 

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A bit of a badge. 
Shaking his head again. 

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What's going on with my 
photography? 

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Aren't you? 
But tell me where we are then. 

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Quilby. 
Horace Quilby, Sir. 

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Of course, Sir. 
Horace Quilby. 

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A hero. 
Shake hands, Shake hands. 

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Shake hands with him. 
He's about to do so. 

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He's a hero. 
He's the greatest big sticker in

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the Northwest Front. 
Yeah. 

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Because it's not even like it's 
like a showcase for him. 

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It's more just he links 
everything together in a way. 

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And it made me think because I I
watched this first and then went

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to listen to the It's Square 
World LP and it made me think, 

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was he just a link man or like 
it's a square world a bit like 

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Chris Morris on the day today or
something? 

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Or was he doing like a lot more?
He was certainly the link man, 

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but he was also appearing in 
sketches. 

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But there was. 
But to be fair, he did have a 

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supporting cast of people like 
Frank Thornton, Clive Dunn, 

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who'd be given a lot to do. 
But no, no, he was quite front 

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and centre in in It's a Square 
World. 

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Yeah. 
It's just, it's an odd idea for 

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a film. 
I mean, it's certainly, as I 

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always say on the show, it's got
loads of faces, it's got loads 

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of people that we can talk 
about. 

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The film was released in right 
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July 66. 
But I believe it was filmed 

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right the sort of the fag end of
65 into 6 early 66. 

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And it was released in other 
territories. 

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Not I mean, it was the sandwich 
Man in the UK. 

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In other countries, it was known
as that swinging city and 

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swinging London was very much 
the zeitgeist around this time. 

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I mean, we'll come to we'll come
to the question of does the film

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reflect that a little bit later?
But it was made off the bat 

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because my understanding is that
Peter Sellers knew the producer 

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of this film, Peter Newbrook, 
and introduce Benteen to Peter 

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Newbrook and Benteen pitched 
this idea and Benteen and the 

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business partner of Peter 
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not to script together and 
Hartford Davis went on to direct

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it. 
Now, do you know, actually, 

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before we go into that, do you 
know much about, did you guys 

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know much about Benteen in 
general before you saw this 

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film? 
No, Sir, I like again, like a 

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big fan of the goons and 
particularly sellers and and 

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then Milligan, But Benteen was 
always the one that I felt 

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didn't know much about because 
there's not much surviving of 

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his sort of input in the goons. 
So I've never heard, never heard

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anything that he that he did 
with them. 

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Only like some clips and I saw a
bit of his. 

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Well, I guess it'd be like the 
the chair back routine that I 

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watched as well, which kind of 
didn't really transfer over. 

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I don't think to to like modern 
audiences. 

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To me, it felt a bit like that 
alternative comedy night in the 

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Phoenix, nights where all those 
people. 

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It used to slay them in the 40s 
though, that I know. 

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I just didn't understand it and 
I was like, is it me? 

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He's the most fascinating 
member, member of the goons in 

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the sense that his life is just,
he was half Peruvian and his 

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father and his grandfather were,
had been, I think was his 

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grandfather had been president 
of Peru at some point, something

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like that. 
And and he was, he'd been in MI 

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6 during the war. 
He helped liberate Bergen Belsen

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and he got into all sorts. 
I mean, he was just such a he 

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was one of these sort of 
Renaissance men that would just,

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you know, canoe up the Amazon 
and just be always doing things.

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And then he just kind of got 
into spiritualism as he got as 

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he got older. 
And he also had some tragedy in 

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his life. 
A couple of his children died 

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and he got into spiritualism and
but but yeah, a very full life, 

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extremely full life. 
And but but when it comes. 

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And he was successful as a 
comedian, but after this film, 

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he didn't really do a hell of a 
lot in terms of. 

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You know, he did the, he did 
Potty Time in the 70s, which was

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a kids show and he did the odd 
thing here and there on TV, but 

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he never made another film and 
he didn't really capitalise I 

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suppose on his talents. 
So was. 

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This How did this perform? 
I mean, was any of that down to 

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the reception of this film 
producing during the World Cup? 

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Not a good idea, surely? 
No, it didn't really. 

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It didn't do well at all. 
So, yeah, so he never made 

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another film. 
But according to the producer of

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the film, Peter Newbrook, Ben 
team was very difficult to work 

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with on this film. 
Very demanding, very 

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argumentative, demanding to be, 
to have input on every aspect of

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the film. 
That might be another answer 

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then. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So in in the end, I think they 
somehow kind of, they didn't 

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fire him, of course they 
couldn't fire him, but they kind

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of sidelined him to stop him 
from interfering. 

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I'm not quite sure how they did 
that. 

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But anyway, I hadn't seen this 
film for many, many, many years 

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and I think I've only seen 
really seen bits of it. 

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So I've watched it twice now for
the purposes of this and it it's

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it, it begins quite promisingly,
this film, doesn't it? 

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Because we get a couple of 
Indian stereotypes, Yeah. 

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I was a bit worried when they 
popped up. 

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Tyler, can I? 
Can I just? 

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Go back to something I liked 
before. 

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That comes in the very, very, 
very first shot, the shot of the

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sun over the over the London 
skyline, well before the music 

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kicks in. 
I thought I've accidentally put 

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on The Exorcist because it's 
slightly bigger, like the bit in

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Iraq when? 
Max once said I was. 

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An Iraq in The Exorcist. 
I was like, oh, hang on, what's 

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what film's this? 
And then yeah, down. 

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It's London. 
And then the music comes in. 

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It's like, oh, OK, this 
definitely isn't The Exorcist. 

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Freaking. 
Freaking has obviously watched a

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Sandwich Man and nicked that 
from, well Ben. 

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Team not. 
Not the only bit of this film 

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that reminded me of a of a 
horror film, but I'll get to 

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that bit later on. 
Cool, look forward to that. 

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I like the music as well when it
kicks in, when we have the 

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skyline shot of London. 
That was good. 

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It's music by Mike Vickers from 
Manfred Mann. 

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Didn't know that. 
Yeah, I'm not sure about all the

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music, but largely the school 
used by Mike Vickers. 

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Also the director, Robert 
Hartford Davis had directed a 

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few kind of musical films like 
Gonks Go Beat, which is 

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brilliant. 
That's not brilliant. 

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Actually, it's rubbish, Gonks Go
Beat, but it's it's it's got 

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Frank Thornton and it's got 
Kenneth Connor and it's got 

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Ginger Baker from Cream before 
he was in Cream. 

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Oh wow, Charlie from Casualty, 
isn't it brilliant? 

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He also directed a film called 
The Yellow Teddy Bears. 

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What's that? 
Which which is I can't it's, 

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it's like a school sit under 
girls school or something like 

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that, Something like that. 
I can't remember exactly. 

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I've never seen it. 
But it's chiefly remembered 

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today as being an early film 
that was pitched to The Beatles 

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for The Beatles to to appear in 
it. 

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Oh. 
Wow and. 

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They they didn't end up being in
it, which I think was probably 

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wise sounds like. 
Yeah, sounds like it. 

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We've got these two Indian 
stereotypes, as I, as I said 

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right at the beginning, Ram and 
and Ram and Gogi. 

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I think the names are it's 
obviously it's 2 white men in 

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brown face, of course, because 
that was D rigger Leon Thao. 

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He later worked with Michael 
Bentin on potty time. 

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He'd worked with him in a square
world as well. 

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And then he went on to become a 
very successful director. 

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And the other guy browned up is 
Hugh Fletcher, who was in a load

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of Carry On films like Carry On,
at Your convenience and that 

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sort of thing. 
And they're off. 

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They're going off to a Jazz 
Festival and they're known as D 

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seekers with the obviously. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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And I spent the whole film 
thinking that was a too as, as 

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being too highbrow. 
I was thinking that was a a pun 

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on, you know, the Italian film 
director Vittorio de Seeker, 

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Bicycle Thieves. 
I was thinking, I was thinking 

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that it's not the Seekers, isn't
it? 

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My I mean, apart from the 
obvious massive disappointment 

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of these two characters, the 
other disappointment about this 

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storyline is they never actually
get to the Jazz Festival. 

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I wanted to see some of the 
jazz. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Instead Benteen, also in brown 

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face as a different character, 
fleeces them more or less, 

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doesn't he? 
The one thing I'd say, though, 

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this beginning was the because 
you have them, you have Roger 

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Delgado, who later famous from 
Doctor Who as AI. 

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Guess he's meant to be like an 
Egyptian carpet. 

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Yeah, Egyptian or something. 
He's wearing a fez, isn't he? 

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So yeah. 
Yeah, and Bert Kwok is a comedy.

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Comedy Chinese man. 
Yeah. 

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And then the. 
Music changes, Doesn't it to be 

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have sort of oriental 
inflections when he comes on to 

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screen? 
Yes, of course. 

445
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,640
Yes, Which they always did back 
then. 

446
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,440
But one thing that we find, I 
mean, it's not love thy 

447
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,600
neighbour. 
There's no culture clashes in 

448
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,000
this film. 
There's, there's a lot of 

449
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,640
harmony, there's openness, 
there's, you know, 

450
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,840
inclusiveness. 
There's no overt racism or 

451
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,440
anything like that. 
And in the publicity for the 

452
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,160
film, the publicity states that 
Londoners might equally be 

453
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,560
wearing bowlers, turbans, saris 
or blue jeans. 

454
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,320
So it's basically it's a big old
melting pot. 

455
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,400
You know, that's the kind of the
message the film is trying to to

456
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,600
make, I think particularly. 
On the street. 

457
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,520
On the street where Benteen 
lives, that's the yes. 

458
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,800
Yes, very. 
Multicultural. 

459
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,560
Yeah, very multicultural, isn't 
it on there. 

460
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,520
And I think that's a lot of the 
film as well. 

461
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,120
It's quite good for that. 
Well. 

462
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:55,920
My my good friends, I've got a 
couple of mates who who have a 

463
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,360
podcast, although it's been in 
hiatus for quite a number of 

464
00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:01,680
years now, podcasts called Jaffa
Cakes of Proust. 

465
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,400
They covered this film many 
years ago, The Sandwich Man, and

466
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,440
they called it a love letter to 
multiculturalism, making jokes 

467
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,600
about race that won't hurt, that
are inclusive because like the 

468
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,760
two Indian gentlemen at the 
beginning, they're arguing about

469
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,240
their favorite football teams. 
They're not separate. 

470
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,600
They're they're fully sort of 
what's the word immersed in 

471
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,760
British society. 
But they also said on this 

472
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,320
podcast that 80% of the scenes 
in this film could be removed 

473
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,520
without without damaging the 
plot, what there is of it. 

474
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,640
And they and they didn't like 
the Norman Wisdom bit which. 

475
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,640
Guy Guy is in agreement there. 
I didn't mind. 

476
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,840
I didn't mind the Norman Wisdom 
bit, but yeah, Guy hated it. 

477
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,360
I. 
Quite like the Norman Wisdom 

478
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:51,560
bit. 
I'll get it out of the way now. 

479
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,720
Go on. 
Let's get into it, should we? 

480
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,920
Get on to that now because we're
just going to go all over the 

481
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,960
place. 
But the the northern Wisdom bit 

482
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,200
was expanded because originally 
it was only meant to be a short 

483
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,680
bit. 
But the clout that wisdom had, 

484
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,720
he said, no, I want I want more 
screen time. 

485
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,120
So they had to read they had to 
expand it and make it last. 

486
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,200
It was about 1010 minutes or so,
wasn't it, that that sequence, 

487
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,800
Because most of these sequences,
which are just more like little 

488
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,280
brief little skits, they're more
or less maybe 345 minutes long 

489
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,960
at most. 
But you have Father Norman 

490
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,880
Wisdom, who's a boxing vicar at 
a boys club, which was a bit 

491
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,840
worrying. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

492
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,840
He he was a boxer. 
He was the British Army 

493
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,840
flyweight champion. 
Yeah, so. 

494
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,320
Yeah, there was. 
There was an actual boxer, so 

495
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,160
you know all of that stuff. 
Knew what he was doing, then I. 

496
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,120
Think it's, you know, one of the
many reasons he was good at 

497
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,680
physical comedy, wasn't it, As a
proper athlete. 

498
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,720
Have you ever, I've never seen 
the Norman Wisdom film. 

499
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,440
Ever, I mean. 
Me neither I. 

500
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,800
Have but a long, long time ago. 
Yeah. 

501
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,120
I, I couldn't say with any 
authority about any of his 

502
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,960
films. 
I mean, I, I, I've, I've seen 

503
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,080
Lee Evans in films. 
That's basically the same thing,

504
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,640
right? 
That's. 

505
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,600
Right. 
Yeah, Yeah, I was. 

506
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,040
Going to say one of the reasons 
why I probably didn't like this 

507
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,120
was I'm not a fan of Lee Evans 
either Sir. 

508
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,640
Apart from in something about 
Mary, though, he's brilliant in 

509
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,000
that. 
Yeah, yeah, that by the the one 

510
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,200
exception to the rule. 
OK, so so guy, why? 

511
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,960
Why? 
What was it about the Norman 

512
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,920
Wisdom bit, that sequence that 
you found off putting? 

513
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,800
I think it's probably, and it's 
going to sound weird in this 

514
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,280
film, but it was pointless. 
And I know there's a lot of 

515
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,080
things in this film that are 
pointless. 

516
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,480
At least they don't stay out, 
stay, they're welcome. 

517
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,160
Whereas one of my kind of 
biggest bug bears is like, plot 

518
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,200
contrivances. 
So. 

519
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,360
And I know that that's part of a
movie, but you shouldn't be able

520
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,280
to see the mechanics. 
But I was just watching going 

521
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,960
well, it's obvious that normal 
wisdom just wanted to do all 

522
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,840
this stuff of hanging off monkey
bars and upside down and getting

523
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,600
himself into a pickle that he 
looked like he could easily get 

524
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,600
himself out of. 
And that's the whole point of 

525
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,280
this bit. 
And it went on too long, as 

526
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,760
you've said. 
Yeah. 

527
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,760
Yeah. 
That that was the main bit. 

528
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,800
It just kind of wound me up. 
I'd. 

529
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,960
Say out stays it's well out 
stays it's welcome is a fair 

530
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,280
comment because it is double 
that and you you feel it being 

531
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,360
double the length of all the 
other bits because at least if 

532
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,800
you don't like another bit, it's
going to be done pretty quickly 

533
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,200
is. 
It the back splits, you're 

534
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,640
wanting to learn you're. 
Facing the wrong way for the 

535
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:37,720
back splits father. 
Would you be after asking me or 

536
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:45,600
telling me what to do? 
Kisses Father. 

537
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:59,080
Quiet now, Colin all. 
I want to know father is this. 

538
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,280
Yeah, I'm just having never seen
a Norman Wisdom film, I've never

539
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,240
really taken any interest in him
at all as a performer. 

540
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,880
I was quite impressed by his 
comedy business. 

541
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,560
Very adept. 
Did it make you want to watch 

542
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,480
anymore? 
Oh. 

543
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,720
Well, should we move on? 
I was going to say my. 

544
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,360
One big memory of Norman Wisdom 
as a kid or as a teenager was 

545
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,160
because he's massive in Albania,
isn't he? 

546
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,960
Because the Albanian dictator 
was a was a big fan, so the FA 

547
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,840
took him out. 
When England played Albania away

548
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,040
for the first time in a World 
Cup qualifier, the FA took him 

549
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,360
with the team. 
They paraded him around the 

550
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,400
around the pitch before the 
match and the noise. 

551
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,320
Were in a in a cage what was 
around hoarding the. 

552
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,280
Fans and maybe doing a few kind 
of comedy, comedy pratfalls. 

553
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,440
Yeah. 
They put. 

554
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,000
Him in an England kit. 
I do you know what I think I 

555
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,280
mean? 
This may be me just making this 

556
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,160
memory up in my head, but I'm 
sure he was wearing 1/2 and half

557
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,480
England now. 
I need a kid. 

558
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,240
I might be completely making 
that up in my own head, but 

559
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,520
there's something about that 
that rings true. 

560
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,240
Hope you're right, might have 
listeners. 

561
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,840
Listeners right in if you know, 
I used to go to school with 

562
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:31,200
someone who his his only talent,
if you like, was going all the 

563
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,400
time going Oh, Mr. Grimsdale, 
which I'm reliably informed or I

564
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,200
was reliably informed was a 
Norman Wisdom kind of catch 

565
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,160
these. 
You are Mr. Grimsdale, Oh. 

566
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,240
How we hated that lad at school.
Oh, he didn't. 

567
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,840
Endear himself to his 
classmates? 

568
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,280
No. 
Yes, I've just found it. 

569
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,920
Half England, half Albania with 
this flat cap on. 

570
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,720
I'm going to. 
I'm going to send the image to 

571
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,720
the chat. 
Very good. 

572
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,080
OK. 
Actually, while you're doing 

573
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,080
that, do you think this was this
possibly Bentin's attempt to 

574
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,920
make a British? 
It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world.

575
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,160
Yes, definitely, I thought. 
That, yeah. 

576
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,040
And but the one but the one kind
of parody removed from that, I 

577
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,800
was thinking of The Simpsons 22 
Short Tales about Springfield, 

578
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:26,680
which has a lot of direct mad 
mad mad mad worlds bits in it. 

579
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,920
Doesn't it as well? 
Well, it's even. 

580
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,040
Got I think it's got Phil 
Silver's in a cameo. 

581
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,240
Yeah. 
Do you know what? 

582
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,800
I think I do think that's that 
might also be another. 

583
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,440
So I'm again confusing 2 
episodes in my head. 

584
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,000
The one with the the cat burglar
home. 

585
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,880
Of the vigilante home of the. 
Vigilante that. 

586
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,480
Yes, the second-half of that is 
entirely mad. 

587
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,800
Bad, bad, bad world. 
That's right. 

588
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,240
Yeah, that's right. 
OK. 

589
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,280
Have you ever seen a sandwich 
man in the wild? 

590
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,440
Like someone actually with a 
sandwich board walking up and 

591
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,520
down the street? 
Not for. 

592
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,800
It not for a long time. 
I. 

593
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,520
Don't think so. 
I'm trying to think now it 

594
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,960
doesn't. 
No, I can't have were. 

595
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,840
They were they replaced by in 
the sort of 80s and 90s by men 

596
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:15,120
holding big golf sales. 
Yeah, I thought that people with

597
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,760
arrows and Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah. 

598
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,840
Must have. 
I'm trying to think what 

599
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,320
replaces If it was it then that 
replaced the sandwich man? 

600
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,760
Was it just billboards? 
Why did they die out? 

601
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,719
I used to read British comics 
when I was a kid, and so my my 

602
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:36,440
idea of what went on in British 
life was informed by reading 

603
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,239
these British kids comics. 
And I used to think that every 

604
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,239
major city in Britain had at 
least one gloomy looking man 

605
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:48,199
walking down the street with the
Ender's nigh on a on a sandwich 

606
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:49,880
board. 
Yeah. 

607
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,480
We still have those people. 
They're just sort of ranting in 

608
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,440
shopping precincts now. 
Now on. 

609
00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:02,560
Twitter Yeah, we, we, we get 
the, the, the, the, the, the 

610
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,840
questionable content out of the 
way quite quickly at the 

611
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,840
beginning. 
And then we see Bentin as Horace

612
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,240
Quilby, who is the sandwich man 
of the title. 

613
00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:13,960
He's very well dressed and he, 
he advertises a gentleman's 

614
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,800
Outfitters and he keeps racing 
pigeons. 

615
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,720
And there's a pigeon called 
Esmeralda who is in the 

616
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:24,160
processor is in the middle of a 
a race or what? 

617
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,320
What do pigeons do? 
They are racing pigeons, aren't 

618
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,600
they? 
Yeah, quite. 

619
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,840
I don't quite know what was 
going on but she was on on route

620
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,200
somewhere is. 
She coming back from France is 

621
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,600
that, is that right? 
I think it's yeah, they're 

622
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,280
expecting about from France and 
he's yeah. 

623
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,400
Right. 
Waiting and speaks to Dora Brian

624
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,520
in one of my favourite scenes in
the film. 

625
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,200
Oh, she's. 
Giving him the glad eye, isn't 

626
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,640
she? 
She's beating the carpet next 

627
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:48,880
door. 
Not half. 

628
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,560
Yeah, well, she's getting rid of
that pent up frustration. 

629
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:56,240
Exactly because she's a wheel 
tappers with her. 

630
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,520
I'm a wheel tappers with her. 
Mr. Quilby. 

631
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,680
That felt, really. 
Modern, that that exchange, that

632
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,600
dialogue felt quite modern and 
just the uncomfortable shifting 

633
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,400
in your seat nature of it, it 
yeah, felt a bit, well, not that

634
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,200
The Office is modern anymore, I 
guess, but particularly with the

635
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,160
Ricky Gervais's attitude 
trajectory. 

636
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,520
But you know, it's kind of it's 
the one piece in the film that 

637
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,560
feels much more of contemporary 
comedy. 

638
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,120
Yeah. 
It's got it's got some nice 

639
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,000
person to it and it feels like 
they kind of let it breathe and 

640
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,200
play out, whereas some of the 
other scenes feel a little bit 

641
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,160
rushed, whereas they kind of let
her kind of chew the scenery a 

642
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,160
bit, which is kind of knife but 
ice. 

643
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,840
When she's talking about my 
white washing and talking about 

644
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,000
the what is it, the birds flying
over? 

645
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,560
It's just not dazzling white 
anymore, which is just those 

646
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,880
great bits. 
So yeah, I really enjoyed those.

647
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,840
Oh, and there's a line where she
goes that she, that he's got his

648
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:01,400
pigeons and I've got my bingo. 
All of those nice little moments

649
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,400
that you don't really get much 
else off, I don't think. 

650
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,200
And she? 
She's undressing him with her 

651
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,320
eyes as she's as she's speaking 
to him. 

652
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:11,040
I love the way nice little comic
touched by Ben team. 

653
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,880
When she met she just mentions 
her late husband and as she as 

654
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,520
she does so, he just gently 
raises his hat out of respect. 

655
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,560
Yeah, that's right. 
I I wish there'd been a a few 

656
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,720
more cutaways to Benteen's 
reaction because he seems to be 

657
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,520
doing a bit of acting himself 
like reacting, which is. 

658
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,680
Not something you could say 
about the rest of the film. 

659
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,080
I, I, I would say too much 
bloody Benteen reaction in the 

660
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,320
rest of the film, not enough of 
it. 

661
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,280
And that's, I think that's his 
best, his best bit of acting it.

662
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,760
Probably is actually his. 
Reaction His uncomfortable 

663
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,280
reaction to her advances is is 
very well played, I thought. 

664
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,760
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do like the 
way that, yeah, that, that as he

665
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,520
walks away, she kind of licks 
her lips. 

666
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,360
Yeah, I thought it was great. 
And then she talks about her 

667
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,680
husband being a a, a big man, 
absolutely massive. 

668
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,480
Probably Arthur Mallard, yes. 
I mean, I'm not one to gramble 

669
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,720
my late husband Percy. 
He would bear witness to that 

670
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:20,520
fact. 
I'm. 

671
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,520
Quite sure of that. 
Yes, that's what I like about 

672
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,680
you, your sympathy and your 
understanding. 

673
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,160
I suppose it's because, well, 
you are a widower yourself. 

674
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,640
Oh, I know you've got your 
pigeons and I've got my bingo, 

675
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,000
but, well, when you've been 
married, it's it's not really 

676
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,080
enough. 
Not really. 

677
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,800
Not really. 
No, I mean I'm not grumbling. 

678
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,920
British Railways have been more 
than generous with the pension, 

679
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,960
but it can be lonely being a 
wheel tap as widow. 

680
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,040
I'm sure you're not. 
A bit like my late person, 

681
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,040
really. 
No. 

682
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,040
Oh, he was massive. 
Simply massive. 

683
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:07,480
Massive. 
Big man you. 

684
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,160
Expect that the film's going to 
climax. 

685
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,280
That's the right word with the 
two of them getting it on, or at

686
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,400
least the 1966 equivalent of 
them getting together. 

687
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,920
But they don't spoilers, but at 
least I don't think they do. 

688
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:22,960
We never find out. 
But anyway. 

689
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,360
But he gives he gives her. 
So he's waiting for he's waiting

690
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:33,040
for news of as morale to the 
pigeon and he gives Dora Bryan a

691
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,840
list of telephone numbers 
because obviously it didn't have

692
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,720
mobile phones back then. 
Listener So there you go. 

693
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:40,720
And he he he goes to the bus 
stop. 

694
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,800
He meets Sue, played by Susie 
Kendall. 

695
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,320
Now, did you know anything about
Susie Kendall? 

696
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,360
Yeah, I'd seen her in a few 
films. 

697
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,360
She was back to Dudley Moore. 
Yeah, she was in To Serve With 

698
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,280
Love with Sidney Poitier and 
Lulu, which I've I liked, and 

699
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,480
then Up the Junction as well, 
like a kind of late 60s sort of 

700
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,200
kitchen sink drama about a rich 
girl trying to slum it. 

701
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,560
Working in a factory, which was 
good. 

702
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,720
And then she kind of 
disappeared, although I think 

703
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:12,960
she did a what is it a horror? 
An Italian horror movie in the 

704
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,920
70s? 
Yeah. 

705
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,360
An Argento 1, I think so. 
I thought you were right. 

706
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,840
OK. 
Well, I should really know more.

707
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,480
All I knew was yeah, Dudley 
Moore's ex-wife. 

708
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,480
She's perfectly fine in this 
film. 

709
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,760
She's perfectly fine. 
I found the bird with the 

710
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,360
crystal plumage. 
Oh, I've seen that. 

711
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,760
Yeah, I've not seen that one, 
but she was I. 

712
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,040
I've not seen it, no. 
But yeah, I'm going to have to 

713
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,320
watch it now. 
I saw. 

714
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,120
It because somebody lent it to 
me. 

715
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,320
I don't know why. 
I can't remember why. 

716
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,480
And it's one of those films. 
You ever get those films? 

717
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,200
Probably this one. 
You ever get those films where 

718
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,920
the moment it ends, you've 
forgotten it? 

719
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,960
Yeah, yeah. 
We've we've seen a few of them 

720
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:04,400
on our podcast Quest, Yeah. 
Yeah, there's been a lot. 

721
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,280
Yeah, I thought she was. 
I thought she was quite good in 

722
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,000
this. 
He's one of the through lines of

723
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,120
the film, her and some guy who's
a bit of a tough cold Stephen 

724
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,480
who drives a soft top sports 
car. 

725
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,280
Yes, who I've never seen before 
or since. 

726
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:23,040
The actor's called David Buck 
and the whole there's only one 

727
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,720
kind of ongoing plot line 
throughout this film, which is 

728
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:29,880
their relationship. 
Her and the bloke in the car and

729
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,520
and Harold Quilby is kind of 
trying to be trying to not be a 

730
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,920
matchmaker, but trying to sort 
of patch things up between them 

731
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,080
and. 
And he succeeds, but that's the 

732
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,080
only thing that's verging on 
being a plot, Yeah. 

733
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,320
But he and I keep thinking that 
Benteen's character seems to be 

734
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,240
far too invested in their 
relationship. 

735
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,920
And yeah, but it's never really 
explained why. 

736
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,000
It's very odd, no? 
No, yeah. 

737
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,960
He just likes, just likes to 
watch. 

738
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,720
Young love, that's what that's 
what that sounds like. 

739
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,280
That's. 
It but they have an argument and

740
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,080
then there's a bit in this bus 
queue where there's quite an, an

741
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,400
idea I quite like where they're 
arguing and there's all the 

742
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,880
passengers waiting for the bus 
who are looking back and 

743
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,320
forward. 
But the the issue with it is 

744
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,320
he's just the one doing the 
talking. 

745
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,800
But they keep looking from 1:00 
to another. 

746
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,080
And she just sort of hoofs at 
one point. 

747
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,440
And I thought it was a good 
idea. 

748
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,400
Not quite executed as well as it
could have been, but I like the 

749
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,920
idea of it, yeah. 
That could be the tagline for 

750
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,280
this film, Yes, a good idea is. 
Not quite. 

751
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,120
As excluded as well as they 
could have been. 

752
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,560
Yeah. 
So the bus, the bus comes along,

753
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,520
we get the two Indian gentlemen 
again and. 

754
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,480
And Earl Cameron as the bus 
conductor. 

755
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,280
Bernard, the bus conductor who 
was one of the first prominent 

756
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,600
black actors in British cinema. 
Earl Cameron he was he was in 

757
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,280
films like Sapphire and he he 
died at the the grand old age of

758
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,600
102. 
Wow, relatively recently, but 

759
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,280
nausea Powell as the bus driver 
he was. 

760
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,520
Also in On the Buses, the movie.
Yeah, he was. 

761
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,280
I think he, he was never 
credited that. 

762
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,240
He's in loads of British films, 
but never credited. 

763
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:17,840
He was always when they needed 
kind of muscle, they needed some

764
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,200
muscle in a film, they'd get 
nausea. 

765
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,360
Powell and they. 
Actually call him Nosher as 

766
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,960
well, don't they? 
In the in in this. 

767
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:29,400
Yes, and there's a traffic jam 
and and a Rolls Royce collides 

768
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,040
with a cyclist. 
We're just going to be talking 

769
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,120
about all the different people 
in this. 

770
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,120
But you've got John Junkin is 
the chauffeur of the Rolls Royce

771
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,080
and he's collided with the 
cyclist, which is Ian Hendry. 

772
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,840
Was going to say Stephen Hendry,
Ian Henry. 

773
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,880
That would be interesting. 
Ian Hendry. 

774
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:55,720
Now, I love Ian Hendry, so a bit
of a sad life and and what would

775
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,920
you say? 
A lot of potential to be a much 

776
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,000
bigger star than he ended up 
being. 

777
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,880
But I think a lot of that was 
down to alcohol dependency and 

778
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,840
and whatnot. 
But he's been in so many great 

779
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,960
films. 
I always think of him from Get 

780
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,120
Carter. 
Oh. 

781
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,560
Yeah, me too with that. 
That that famous line, what's he

782
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,480
called? 
He's called Eric. 

783
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,800
And Michael Caine takes the 
sunglasses off and he says 

784
00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:23,400
pistols in the snow. 
It's. 

785
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:23,960
Brilliant. 
Yeah. 

786
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,960
He was in repulsion as well. 
Yeah. 

787
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,000
I was thinking repulsion. 
Yeah, now this, this bit with in

788
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,560
the Sandwich Man with Ian Henry.
He he's knocked off his bike. 

789
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,320
What's your? 
Game swerving in like that. 

790
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,880
I didn't understand this at all.
The the the cyclist goes into 

791
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,440
the cop shop and then comes 
around the corner on a motorbike

792
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,240
and he's a he's a police 
officer. 

793
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,080
I didn't get it at first it 
completely. 

794
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,160
I was thinking, is that meant to
be Ian Henry playing two 

795
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,840
different parts? 
I didn't, I didn't get it. 

796
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,520
Did you guys get it like? 
Very similar. 

797
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,000
Yeah, well, I just watched it 
again and I only got it the 

798
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,760
second time round, and maybe I 
wasn't paying enough attention 

799
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,800
the first time around, but I 
actually found it funnier. 

800
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,200
Funnier the second time round 
because I understood what was 

801
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,560
going on, yeah. 
Oh, I feel like I got it the the

802
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,680
first time. 
I thought it was one of the I 

803
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,560
thought it was a good bit. 
I liked I quite liked it that 

804
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,760
bit him coming back out and then
being like sycophantic, like oh,

805
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,800
no, yes, hello, hello, officer, 
as he's sort of yes, he's 

806
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,240
writing him a ticket. 
I thought it was quite well 

807
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:28,480
done. 
Quilby goes to this cafe, this 

808
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,480
greasy spoon frequented by 
misfits of society I suppose, 

809
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,480
and and fellow sandwich men. 
And you've got John Lemes in 

810
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,280
there. 
Is Abadiah born in Abadiah? 

811
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,720
Good. 
Morning Acts 3 and 4. 

812
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,240
Horace, I would like you to meet
our new recruit, Mr. George 

813
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,840
Pocket. 
He's with Fred's nude sexer 

814
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,120
Honor. 
They are daughters of Felicia, 

815
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,920
painted and ungodly. 
But who are we to judge them? 

816
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,440
However, Mr. Pocket, this is Mr.
Quilby, our honorary secretary. 

817
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:58,600
What I've been telling you 
about. 

818
00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,920
Brilliant. 
One of the. 

819
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,720
Best things about the film for 
me. 

820
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,120
His. 
His delivery of Fred's nude 

821
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:11,200
sexorama is chefs kiss. 
And the way he pronounces Mr. 

822
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,400
George Pocket is amazing as well
he's doing. 

823
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,520
A bit of a he's doing a bit of a
dot Cotton voice, I think. 

824
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,280
East End. 
East End Trying to sound posh, 

825
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,080
Yeah. 
OK. 

826
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,360
Dot con or dare I say Russell 
Brand. 

827
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,760
Warren Mitchell was pretty good 
as Sid the Gypsy Tea, tea leaf 

828
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,080
reader, whatever you want to 
call him. 

829
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,520
Yeah. 
I didn't recognize him at first 

830
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:40,640
and then. 
The credits. 

831
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,640
Came up as like, Oh yes, of 
course. 

832
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:45,640
No. 
And and he he would have, I 

833
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,480
think he would have been into 
his first year playing Elf 

834
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:54,520
garnet when this was made. 
Berlin's Gate Fish Market. 

835
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,800
Yeah. 
Doors and Anna Quail gossiping 

836
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,200
about Doctor Kildare versus 
Doctor Ben Casey. 

837
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,760
I really. 
Like this bit, it reminded me of

838
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,320
like a Carolina Hearn sketch 
from the fascia did this the way

839
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,000
them two are kind of just 
riffing for like again, it's 

840
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,280
totally pointless. 
But I really I just really liked

841
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,520
it. 
And even the sort of intercut 

842
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,440
end of fish guts being cut out 
was just yeah, me neither. 

843
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,640
But it felt like it was out of a
different film did that. 

844
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,520
Doors Doors was was 34 and there
were there were newspaper 

845
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,960
reports of of how drab and dowdy
she looked in this film. 

846
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,000
They don't. 
Change, do they? 

847
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,360
They're Bridge Press, yeah. 
Going to say, isn't that the 

848
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,280
point? 
She's not going to be the 

849
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,920
glamour girl character in this 
Bizarre. 

850
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,280
Yeah. 
Yeah, but also. 

851
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,280
Does she really look that dragon
down? 

852
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,000
No, she looks. 
Great. 

853
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,360
No, she does she. 
Looks great. 

854
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,480
Yeah, she. 
Looks really good. 

855
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,400
She just got her buddy headscarf
on and a a good coat and she's 

856
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,640
still might just look good. 
So, yeah, yeah. 

857
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,840
Like a male online headline. 
Anna Quayle, of course, who is 

858
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,800
my favorite bit of A Hard Day's 
Night is the Anna Quayle 

859
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,200
sequence with John Lennon. 
I do meet him on the stairs, I 

860
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,040
do. 
Love that bit. 

861
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,480
Yeah, when she's like, yeah, she
looks more like him than I do 

862
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,520
Last. 
Yeah, and she was in, she was in

863
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,280
Casino Royale with Ronnie 
Corbett as her stooge, of 

864
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,440
course. 
Yes, I love. 

865
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,920
That bit Ronnie Corbett, 
anything he shows up in, oh, 

866
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,280
he's always pretty good. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

867
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,160
He's got the the two 
fishmongers. 

868
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,160
What? 
You know those hats they're 

869
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,320
wearing as well? 
I. 

870
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,120
Asked this in my nuts. 
Those. 

871
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,880
Weird hats they're wearing that 
look like sort of hubcaps. 

872
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,400
Yeah, I don't. 
Understand it. 

873
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,160
And then, yeah, then we have the
bit with the woman's handbag 

874
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,120
getting caught up. 
She's called Tracy Crisp. 

875
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,760
I looked her up. 
What a what a great name. 

876
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:58,000
She yeah, I believe she was 
meant to be the next big thing 

877
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:04,320
and there was quite a lot of 
publicity around her tiny little

878
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,600
bit in this film. 
Well, they were trying to they 

879
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,040
were trying to talk her up, if 
you know what I mean, in the in 

880
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,960
the in the media, in the papers 
and whatnot. 

881
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,920
And then I I believe she didn't 
just she just kind of 

882
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,720
disappeared about Trace didn't 
didn't make it as a shame. 

883
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,240
I kind of want to look her up 
and find out I might be wrong. 

884
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:21,440
Sorry, Tracy. 
Chris. 

885
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:27,320
But so many fascinating shots. 
Snapshot of mid 60s London. 

886
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,400
In glorious colour that is. 
One of my favorite things I 

887
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,800
think about the film is the fact
that it's all kind of shot on 

888
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,320
location and you just get to see
London back in the mid 60s. 

889
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,160
That and I, I went on real 
streets and I was looking up a 

890
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,840
lot of the places to see if they
were still, if they still 

891
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,960
existed now. 
And unfortunately a lot of them 

892
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,280
are gone billing. 
Billing Skate Market still 

893
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,480
exists, but it's considerably 
more hipsterfied now than it 

894
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:58,520
would have been in 1966. 
Well, I, I didn't write this 

895
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:04,640
down, but I, I'm sure I read 
somewhere that if it, if this 

896
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,560
was true, if this was based on 
fact, in terms of his actual 

897
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,320
journey on this one day, it 
would be a journey of about 100 

898
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,840
miles. 
I did wonder, I thought, is it? 

899
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,520
Is it true to life? 
No, he does. 

900
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,880
Seem to know everyone in central
London as well. 

901
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,680
Or everyone in central London 
knows him? 

902
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,120
Yes. 
Yeah, no, it was 100% location 

903
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,080
shooting and it was tricky 
getting permission to film in 

904
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,560
certain areas. 
So they had to, they had an ice 

905
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,320
cream van. 
I'm not sure if it's the same 

906
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,160
one that was in the film, but 
they had an ice cream van with 

907
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,400
blacked out windows for certain 
shots that they could so they 

908
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,880
could get away with filming in 
certain like the London Hilton 

909
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,080
and places like that. 
That's I mean. 

910
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,320
That's like Rocky. 
There's, there's there's story 

911
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,440
about Rocky, this scenes where 
he's jogging through the streets

912
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,680
and people are throwing stuff at
him. 

913
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,640
That's all for real. 
And they were, they were kind of

914
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,360
how was it in a, in a covered 
van doing that? 

915
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:58,640
Yeah. 
Oh. 

916
00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:02,520
Wow, that's cool. 
So who directed Rocky? 

917
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,520
Do you think he was influenced 
by the sandwich man? 

918
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,440
Yeah, I'm. 
I'm going to. 

919
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,680
I'm really annoyed at not 
knowing that off the top of my 

920
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,840
head. 
So it's him and who was the 

921
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,960
other one guy that was 
influenced by the sandwich man? 

922
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,200
Yeah, what did we say earlier? 
My mind's gone a blank. 

923
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,080
Sorry. 
The Road gang bit was quite 

924
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,960
actually quite like the road 
gang bit, although it was so 

925
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,960
laboured, much of it. 
Yeah, with David Lodge and it's 

926
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,320
sorry, it's Dee Rigger on this 
podcast to say Dave Lodge, he 

927
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,480
was in Cockleshell Heroes 
because he wasn't Cockleshell 

928
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,920
Heroes, but that passing of the 
T down the line bloody. 

929
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,520
Hell, that's a laboured joke, 
isn't it? 

930
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,040
Yeah. 
It went on too long. 

931
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,640
It did. 
It did go on too long, but I 

932
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,400
kind of like Dave Lodge in it. 
I liked it. 

933
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:54,160
I thought he was quite good. 
Now, one of those, the youngest,

934
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:59,680
one of those navies, it's 
supposed to be James Bolum and. 

935
00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:01,880
Creditors, I saw that. 
I looked. 

936
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,600
I looked at the actor a couple 
of there's a few shots of the 

937
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,880
actor and he can't. 
Yes, he looks, he looks like a 

938
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,680
pound shop. 
James Bolum I. 

939
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,440
Thought he looked like a young 
Marquis Smith from The Fall. 

940
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:18,040
To be a very different film if 
he was. 

941
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:25,280
If he was in it. 
And did you know the the 

942
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,280
pavement artist? 
Did you find out who that was? 

943
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,360
The guy doing the drawings on 
the pavement? 

944
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,840
I did. 
Look up on IMDb. 

945
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,800
But who? 
Who was that? 

946
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,280
Well, I didn't. 
You know, I didn't actually put 

947
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,520
his name, but he is, or he was 
Charlie Chaplin's son. 

948
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,920
Wow. 
Who was trying to make it and 

949
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,240
acting and never did so 
actually. 

950
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:49,080
On the on the subjects of trying
to find out who everyone was if 

951
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,360
ever there was, I get quite 
frustrated sometimes when IMDb 

952
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,360
list casts in appearance order. 
But if ever there was an 

953
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,080
argument to do that for a film, 
it's this one. 

954
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,800
And they don't, which is really 
frustrating, yeah. 

955
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,040
Yeah. 
But, and we got Bernard Cribs, 

956
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,160
haven't we, as a dandy 
photographer photographing Susie

957
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,040
Kendall? 
My heart was gladdened at the 

958
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,840
sight of Bernard Cribbins. 
Yeah. 

959
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:16,520
And he he comes up against Dave 
Lodge and both of them had been 

960
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,600
together in two way stretch, of 
course. 

961
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,000
Yeah, on our. 
List it. 

962
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,440
Is. 
I consider that to be Sellers 

963
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,200
second best film, maybe second 
third I re. 

964
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,560
Watched it again recently for 
the first time in years and 

965
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,600
yeah, absolute still absolutely 
loved it. 

966
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,800
Isn't it? 
It's so. 

967
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,560
Good. 
Like yeah, I want to, I want to 

968
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,120
watch it again. 
Actually I was talking to my dad

969
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,240
about it and saying we should 
watch it so I might bring it 

970
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:44,800
round to see him but. 
And this might be sacrilege, but

971
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,240
who? 
Who steals the film? 

972
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,800
Who steals that film, guys? 
Well. 

973
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,240
It's it's, it's your man, the 
prison warden, isn't it? 

974
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,600
It's Lionel Jeffries. 
Lionel Jeffries. 

975
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,360
Lionel Jeffries as prison 
officer. 

976
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,600
What's his name? 
Claudio Grout, Yeah. 

977
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,880
Grout, yeah. 
Grout yeah, yeah, so. 

978
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,240
There's the whole bit with the 
plank. 

979
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,160
There was no, so we've got this 
ditch, we've got Bernard 

980
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,600
Cribbins who's not watching what
he's doing. 

981
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:20,040
He's just taking photographs of 
Susie Kendall and he's edging 

982
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,400
ever closer to the ditch and you
think he's going to go in, he's 

983
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,080
going to go in. 
And then for no reason, one of 

984
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,480
the navies puts this plank over.
But there's no reason he does 

985
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,720
that because then as soon as, as
soon as Bernie Cribbins walks 

986
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:32,960
backwards over it, he moves it 
away. 

987
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,800
So there's no, there was no 
reason for it at all. 

988
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,080
It's things like that that 
annoyed me, you know what I 

989
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,520
mean? 
It should have. 

990
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,200
It should have been done with 
more class, should have been 

991
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,400
better. 
Thought a lot of half thought 

992
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,640
out sketches I feel. 
Yeah. 

993
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,360
I find that a lot of them they 
don't kind of it doesn't go the 

994
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,360
way that it should go almost and
it they don't see it through. 

995
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,360
It feels like half finished and 
like the one earlier with the 

996
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:02,480
Tracy Crisp in the in the what 
fishmongers when she gets it 

997
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,720
just doesn't throwing fish at 
them and then it just kind of 

998
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:07,240
fades into something else and 
there's like not a proper not a 

999
00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:10,000
proper joke there do. 
You know where I bet there's a 

1000
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,960
better version of that plank 
joke without without being able 

1001
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,680
to actually give an example, but
I guarantee there will be one. 

1002
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,720
It's in a Norman Wriston film, 
probably. 

1003
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,840
Yeah, probably can imagine. 
So it just feels, again, there's

1004
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,800
a few things in this as well 
where they set something up 

1005
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,240
where something has to happen, 
but they don't go through the 

1006
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:34,040
mechanics of it properly, so 
they never see it through. 

1007
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,080
So it just feels a bit fast in 
the end. 

1008
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,320
There's a scene later on with 
the with the rowers, you know, 

1009
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,320
you've got the guy with the 
rowing the boat and then the 

1010
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,840
guy. 
Yeah, yeah, the wrong Moody bit 

1011
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,720
where all the people on the on 
the boat jump out of it for no 

1012
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,160
reason. 
Yeah. 

1013
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,920
Including Pauline Fowler, OH. 
Yes. 

1014
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,480
Well, she looked like Pauline 
Fowler. 

1015
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,120
She did look like Pauline. 
Fowler. 

1016
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,040
Another, another bit that went 
on too long. 

1017
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,160
Sorry, I'm really we're really 
laying into this film. 

1018
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,520
But it's not that bad. 
But there's but it's just it 

1019
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,320
could have been better, so much 
better. 

1020
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,720
But the bit that went on too 
long was, you know, the bit 

1021
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:17,600
with, with Terry Thomas and and 
the Milky Bar kid. 

1022
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,480
And they're trying to get to 
this. 

1023
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,480
They're trying to get the Scout 
Jamboree or something and 

1024
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,160
they're trying to ram themselves
into the smallest vehicle in 

1025
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:29,680
London. 
Again, for your pardon the pun, 

1026
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,800
if that bit was tighter, then it
would have been, yeah, a lot 

1027
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,600
better. 
And again, so much comic 

1028
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,200
potential in that scene and with
someone like Terry Thomas and 

1029
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,200
then all pretty pretty much 
squandered. 

1030
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,720
And then obviously you've got 
all the the brown face aspect to

1031
00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:47,520
that bit as well. 
And yeah. 

1032
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,640
It's and Ian Hendry back again 
that seems. 

1033
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,680
To be the travel avatar. 
Travels out. 

1034
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,120
I don't think I'm in any 
trouble. 

1035
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,640
Let's. 
Consider your position at the 

1036
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:01,280
moment I can only describe it as
unbelievably tricky as soon. 

1037
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,920
As Terry Thomas showed up, I, I 
was like, oh, yeah, Terry 

1038
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,560
Thomas. 
He'll, he'll save the day. 

1039
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,840
Nope. 
And that's not his fault. 

1040
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,360
It just got the the two Indian 
lads trying to force themselves 

1041
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,080
into this Jeep, is it? 
Or whatever it is. 

1042
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:17,040
It's just painful to watch. 
And not in a not in a funny way.

1043
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,560
It just goes on too long. 
Yeah. 

1044
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,120
And it's one of them where I 
don't really get why, why we're 

1045
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,680
still with it. 
It was. 

1046
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:29,600
So tedious that I was trying to 
figure out exactly where that 

1047
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,840
scene was being shot it. 
Felt. 

1048
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,240
Like somewhere on Buckingham 
Palace Rd. 

1049
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,240
But you know, obviously my point
of reference of London, you 

1050
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,000
know, despite having lived there
for 18 years and a lot of, you 

1051
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,160
know, a lot of things, a lot of 
those buildings are so old that 

1052
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,960
they don't change. 
But it it's just hard to hard to

1053
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,680
tell with a lot of it. 
He's kind of half finished. 

1054
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,800
Like the like the street that he
lives, that he lives on is kind 

1055
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,120
of half finished. 
Isn't it somewhere in Houston? 

1056
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,400
Well, that's half finished 
because it's been bombed. 

1057
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,800
But you know, I'm going to. 
Say that's all gone now. 

1058
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,040
So I looked it up and that his 
his house is no longer there 

1059
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,280
isn't Mr. Quilby's and a few 
persons. 

1060
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,880
Did you notice? 
That there was a lot of 

1061
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,720
buildings were scaffolded all 
around them, like Saint Paul's, 

1062
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,720
for example. 
And that that scene with Terry 

1063
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,760
Thomas is just, you know, 
because I'm playing the film as 

1064
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,960
we're talking. 
That scene's just been on, and 

1065
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,560
it certainly isn't Buckingham 
Palace Rd. 

1066
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,040
Not that I know. 
What Buckingham Palace Rd. 

1067
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:28,680
Oh, is it? 
Not. 

1068
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,120
But it's, it looks like it's 
film around the back of some 

1069
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,200
strip club or something, you 
know, dust bins and all sorts 

1070
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,800
are. 
You sure it wasn't Buckingham 

1071
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,000
Palace Rd. 
Let me. 

1072
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,240
Have a look. 
I've got real streets open we 

1073
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:44,600
can find. 
We can find it. 

1074
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,280
Where was it now? 
It was Purchase. 

1075
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,920
Purchase St. in Summerstown NW 
1. 

1076
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,200
Oh, bloody Summertown. 
Yeah. 

1077
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,320
Nope, I don't know. 
Yeah, but I also found that 

1078
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,080
going back to the John Lames 
scene, that that sandwich shop 

1079
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,840
is now called The Sandwich Man. 
Oh, it exists, yeah. 

1080
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,200
So it still exists. 
By the way, and someone else in 

1081
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,680
that scene, the, the, the Reece 
spoon scene with John Lamesra, 

1082
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:20,760
Gerald Campion, who was the guy 
in the suit of armour or the, 

1083
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,920
the, the, the chainmail with the
rusty arm. 

1084
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:33,160
Yes, but he was huge in the 50s.
He was at the 40s, fifth, late 

1085
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,200
40s, fifties. 
He was Billy Bunter on 

1086
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,200
television. 
Oh wow, my yeah, my mum and dad 

1087
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,480
have talked about Billy Bunter 
before. 

1088
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,520
I've never seen any, but I've 
heard and. 

1089
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,120
Thinking on the book The old. 
Books are something. 

1090
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,800
Yeah, we've got the bit with 
Peter Jones as meant for the 

1091
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:53,280
Magnificent and Aubrey Morris as
his assistant, Cedric the Great.

1092
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,920
Who's a Who's a escapologist? 
Orby Morris. 

1093
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,680
Who I love for his over the 
topness in the Man About the 

1094
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,120
House movie. 
Yes. 

1095
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,760
Yes. 
And he was, he was in the 

1096
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,440
prisoner. 
Quite, yes. 

1097
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,800
Memorably. 
And the wicked man he was also, 

1098
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,240
he was also in Deadwood, do you 
know that? 

1099
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:15,160
Yes. 
What was he? 

1100
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:15,680
I didn't. 
Know that? 

1101
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,000
Yeah, I remember that from doing
the Comedy Connections for him. 

1102
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,040
Yeah. 
And he's. 

1103
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:26,200
Yeah, because he had this kind 
of last Final Chapter American 

1104
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,160
section of his career. 
He's in things like Tales from 

1105
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,400
the Crypt and and like for 
American kids films and stuff. 

1106
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,080
That's right. 
That's right. 

1107
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,920
That's cool. 
Now do you? 

1108
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,120
Do you think that Dom Jolly from
Trigger Happy TV? 

1109
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,520
Yes, I wrote that. 
I wrote that in my notes. 

1110
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,720
It's films like trigger happy TV
as well. 

1111
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,080
We have a car crash with a man 
dressed as a kangaroo and a man 

1112
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,920
dressed as a polar bear 
fighting. 

1113
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,760
Yeah, that was good. 
And they? 

1114
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:59,280
Didn't think to have the obvious
Big Train joke where it's a is 

1115
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,080
it a cat and a mouse or is it a 
cat and a dog in Big Train where

1116
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,400
they're winding each other up in
a pub? 

1117
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:05,760
Yeah. 
That's brilliant. 

1118
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,120
Is that sketch? 
Where they end up fighting. 

1119
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,160
Yeah, they end up fighting in 
the street by like a cash point.

1120
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:16,320
Yeah. 
It's really good, yeah. 

1121
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,360
Yeah. 
And then a girl on a motorbike 

1122
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,400
gets her leather pants ripped 
off because she catches them on 

1123
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,280
some barbed wire fence. 
So we've got, we've got a bit of

1124
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,520
sort of semi nudity in there as 
well. 

1125
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:31,360
Yeah. 
But I spent ages that's that's 

1126
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,200
that's filmed in Soho and 
there's, it's a wreck. 

1127
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,960
There's a record shop that we 
see briefly. 

1128
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,000
And having worked in the record 
shop in my in my youth, I love 

1129
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,120
things like that. 
And I paused because you have 

1130
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,080
the front window of the record 
shop, a bit like when I we 

1131
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,600
covered Billy Lyer a while back 
and there's a record shop in 

1132
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,600
that. 
And I paused on that to see if I

1133
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,520
could identify any of the discs 
in the window. 

1134
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:59,600
But this record shop, it the 
only, the only, there's a couple

1135
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,360
of LP covers that I could kind 
of make out, but the only thing 

1136
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,400
I could really make out clearly 
was they're advertising Nancy 

1137
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,400
Sinatra's These boots are made 
for walking. 

1138
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,800
I love it. 
Which now that came out in late,

1139
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:21,080
late 65, early 66, sort of 
December, January 66, so must 

1140
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,600
have been filmed around that 
time. 

1141
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:28,200
But if that's the case, it looks
remarkably good weather, I 

1142
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,720
thought, doesn't it? 
Because yeah, because I I did 

1143
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,680
look it up and the thing. 
That I found said it was yeah, 

1144
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:40,920
film between early September and
late N65 and yeah, it run, run 

1145
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,480
for a period of 61 days. 
Did the shoot and I thought it 

1146
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,400
looks more like either late 
summer or spring. 

1147
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,120
Yeah, but I just. 
Got lucky did they? 

1148
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,280
But just got lucky with the sun.
But if that's the. 

1149
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,760
Case the these boots are made 
for walking wasn't released till

1150
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,760
December. 
That's odd, I wonder. 

1151
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,000
If there's some reshoots, then 
and came back and. 

1152
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,000
Maybe did some? 
Feels like feels like an odd 

1153
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:11,840
time to, you know, a film that's
100% location as you as you 

1154
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,960
said, silence is choose. 
Choose to film it does, and 

1155
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,280
apparently, apparently right at 
the end. 

1156
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,280
Literally the the the last 
sequence of the film where 

1157
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:27,520
they're having this 
multicultural St. party on 

1158
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,800
Quilby St. and celebrating 
Esmeralda's return. 

1159
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:38,280
Some of that sequence was filmed
was night for day shooting. 

1160
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:44,320
Oh, wow. 
Which, yeah, that's interesting.

1161
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,160
You look at it. 
And this is according to the 

1162
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,560
producer who was doing the audio
commentary on the film that I 

1163
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,520
listened to, which wasn't very 
good, by the way. 

1164
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,880
I spent most of it. 
There was there's very, very 

1165
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,720
little information that he gave.
He spent most of it going, oh, 

1166
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,680
he's going to put his sandwich 
board down now and he's going 

1167
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,120
to, he's going to walk into the 
Hilton and he's going to sit 

1168
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,360
down and there's going to be 
some lad coming up. 

1169
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,040
Paging Horace Quilby. 
Yeah, you think he. 

1170
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,400
Was doing audio description. 
Yeah, Did he not come through I?

1171
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,120
Don't. 
Understand what the thing was. 

1172
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:21,800
No, no, he goes to the Car Mart 
showroom to try and sort things 

1173
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,000
out between Stephen and Sue, 
which no one cares about, let's 

1174
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,120
face it. 
But he he decides he wants to 

1175
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:28,880
try and sort things out. 
Yeah. 

1176
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:34,640
I don't get why he cares. 
No and. £21,000 for a car in 

1177
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:39,600
1965 as well because. 
He somehow guy you've always got

1178
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,320
your inflation calculator out 
for. 

1179
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,480
What for roles, though? 
For roles you're talking, yeah. 

1180
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,280
Because I guess. 
It's what Guy and his 

1181
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,800
highfalutin lifestyle would just
refer to as a car. 

1182
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,720
I've seen you driving around 
Brighouse in your roles. 

1183
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,240
Yeah, exactly. 
With the top down, do they have 

1184
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,800
soft tops? 
I think I've let myself down 

1185
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,720
there. 
Had it converted. 

1186
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,800
Let me get my inflation 
calculator out. 

1187
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:07,920
I should, I should. 
I don't know why I didn't do it 

1188
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,920
because I did think about it. 
And then I was like, Oh no, I 

1189
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,840
probably won't have to do it now
here I am back again. 

1190
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,520
What we're thinking. 
What did? 

1191
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,400
You say 21,000? 
Yeah. 

1192
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,680
What what what do we think? 
It's pre decimal. 

1193
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:32,320
Blimey, I'm going to say 136,000
lbs. 300 Three £144,000 was 21 K

1194
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,200
in 1965. 
Shocking. 

1195
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,480
So yeah, just me and my roles, 
driving around Brick House, 

1196
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:43,200
upsetting the locals and then 
that, that. 

1197
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,920
Older car salesman Donald 
Alfred, who was a very famous. 

1198
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:53,960
Or it's of Arabia actor? 
Yep, he looked a bit like he 

1199
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,440
looked like he should be some 
sort of Soviet statesman. 

1200
01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:59,880
Yeah. 
You can picture him in one of 

1201
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,400
those big fairy hats. 
Perfect. 

1202
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,480
There was actually there's 
there's a nice little quick 

1203
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:11,200
scene we saw with Abdul on his 
carpets when the sandwich man 

1204
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,480
thinks that he's levitating on 
the carpet. 

1205
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,480
I like that a bit. 
But it's it's a forklift truck 

1206
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,400
out of shop, obviously. 
Yeah, I. 

1207
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,640
Quite like that. 
It was a bit whimsy and it got a

1208
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,200
bit trippy and I thought it's 
it's a film going to do 

1209
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,120
something a bit weird now we're 
going to went to believe this, 

1210
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,200
but no, sadly it doesn't. 
I was hoping we're going to get 

1211
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,840
a bit trippy then. 
Maybe a couple of years or maybe

1212
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,800
a year after this was made, it 
would go real full on 

1213
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,480
psychedelic batshit like Casino 
Royale and Modesty Blaze. 

1214
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:50,640
They just just throw everything 
into the into the pot, clearly 

1215
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,680
pot. 
But no, it's not. 

1216
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,280
It's still a traditional British
comedy film. 

1217
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,840
There's there's nothing to weigh
out, is there? 

1218
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:02,640
It's kind of, there's kind of a 
bit of it. 

1219
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,480
There's not a clash, but 
there's, there's a coming 

1220
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,320
together of the old and the new.
But it's it is still pretty much

1221
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:09,720
a traditional British comedy 
film. 

1222
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,520
The British comedy industry 
likes doing that every kind of 

1223
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,320
generation, doesn't it? 
To try and bring together old 

1224
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:18,920
and new, yes. 
Yeah. 

1225
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,360
Whether it be in a film or a or 
a, you know, specifically made 

1226
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,600
series. 
But yeah, we that's something 

1227
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,720
we've noticed as well, a little 
bit of a pattern developing. 

1228
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,440
It might have been nice if 
they'd had people like cooking 

1229
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:38,400
more or yeah, even, you know, 
cuz cuz Cleese was making a name

1230
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,520
for himself around this time. 
And Tim Brooke Taylor, you know,

1231
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,080
it would have been nice for a 
few of the, you know, the 

1232
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,880
younger generation comics to 
have had little cameos in this 

1233
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,040
as well. 
Yeah, You could have had like, 

1234
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,680
Eleanor Braun, people like that 
showing up and like you say, 

1235
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,640
Kookamar. 
Yeah, it would have been quite 

1236
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,600
interesting to see that Burt 
John, Burt, John Fortune and 

1237
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,800
those guys were knocking about. 
Whereas most of the people in 

1238
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,520
the film seem to be kind of 
reaching that peak are going 

1239
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,080
over, apart from a couple of 
people, I'd say. 

1240
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,360
Some of them, you know, And it, 
it feels weird that it wasn't a 

1241
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,520
little bit more contemporary, 
you know, mixing that all with 

1242
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,520
the new bit, like the wrong box,
I guess. 

1243
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,279
Yeah, what a year. 
Later, I think was that 6660? 

1244
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:22,439
Six. 
Yeah, it was, yeah. 

1245
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,439
Yeah, Harry H Corbett said it, 
of course. 

1246
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,560
But he was still, he was still a
well established actor, although

1247
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,560
I think Steptoe was into its 
third year by this year. 

1248
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:34,560
It was coming to its end, wasn't
it? 

1249
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,120
For, well, at the end of its 
first kind of run before they 

1250
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,640
came back. 
Yeah, Yeah, that's right. 

1251
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,720
One one thing I noticed was the 
outside of the London Palladium 

1252
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,279
is there's a poster for Babes in
the Wood. 

1253
01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:50,640
Is this the one that Sid James 
was appearing in when they were 

1254
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,399
doing Carry on Screaming, which 
meant he couldn't be in Carry on

1255
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:55,080
screaming and Harry H Carver 
took over? 

1256
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,359
It would. 
Have been because carry on 

1257
01:08:56,359 --> 01:08:58,840
screaming was 66, wasn't it? 
So yeah. 

1258
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,040
There you go. 
We only know this because we've 

1259
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,560
talked about it very recently on
a Carry On miniseries. 

1260
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,680
We did. 
We talked about Carry On. 

1261
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,680
The reason Sid James wasn't in 
Carry On screaming was because 

1262
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,200
he was doing a long run, long 
panto run. 

1263
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,720
Papers in the wood at the at the
Palladium. 

1264
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:16,279
Yeah. 
Well. 

1265
01:09:16,279 --> 01:09:18,720
Into well into the summer. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1266
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:19,760
Which is. 
Bizarre. 

1267
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,720
Well, it feels bizarre now for a
pantomide to run so long. 

1268
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,080
But yeah, I found that 
interesting. 

1269
01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:28,800
Hello, stage door keeper. 
No. 

1270
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:34,399
Oh my God, you don't say. 
Oh, no. 

1271
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,080
What a tragedy. 
He was here a moment ago. 

1272
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,200
I was just talking to him. 
Yes. 

1273
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:45,000
I'll get onto it right away. 
I'll tell him. 

1274
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:47,560
Oh, he's. 
No, he's my older. 

1275
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,720
No, he's Federico the 
contortionist. 

1276
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,680
He's had a double oligo thing 
happened to him. 

1277
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,280
He's done himself in mischief. 
He's. 

1278
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,960
I've got to find the Doctor Who 
don't stand there cluttering up 

1279
01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:02,720
the gang. 
Why, he might be all knotted up.

1280
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:10,520
We may have to Fred him through.
Hello, Hello, Hello. 

1281
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:13,240
So. 
A lot of. 

1282
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,920
Other stuff happens, but we, we 
have this, we have a scene in 

1283
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:20,800
the Royal Gardens and there's, 
there's a, there's a thing with 

1284
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,440
a lawn mower an an escaped lawn 
mower can. 

1285
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,120
I just. 
Say something about this. 

1286
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,400
This is the other thing that 
reminded me of a horror film. 

1287
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,600
It's. 
Like, like watching Christine 

1288
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,280
sort of hoping that this lawn 
mower is just going to attack 

1289
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,440
everyone. 
And it was all, all of it tame. 

1290
01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:39,200
So maybe Steve Stephen King saw 
this film. 

1291
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:39,440
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1292
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,800
And the director of Rocky and 
Don Jolly. 

1293
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,000
Don Jolly all saw this movie. 
Now did you, did you notice that

1294
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,200
that little lad that caused all 
this mischief was also called 

1295
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,520
Stephen? 
So you got 2 characters with the

1296
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,000
same name in this film for no 
reason? 

1297
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,320
I thought that was going to be, 
there was a set up for something

1298
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,040
that was going to be some 
confusion later on that there's 

1299
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,920
two characters called Stephen. 
But no, no, never, never came 

1300
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,560
back into it. 
Again, just not just not thought

1301
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,200
through enough. 
Yeah, I did want to kind of 

1302
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,120
point out that the fact that 
this flowers scene with the 

1303
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,920
runaway lawnmower doesn't end 
with the way the, well, the way 

1304
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,440
I expected, expected it to end. 
I thought it was going to go 

1305
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,880
through the flowers because we 
just see it rolling off. 

1306
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,680
It nearly kind of goes over a 
couple who were kind of making 

1307
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,560
out on the lawn and all these 
bits is going towards the 

1308
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:30,000
flowers and then it does it stop
or it miss or it misses. 

1309
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,320
And then there's a guy with the 
boat who's at his boat for 20 

1310
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,520
years, Toy boat falls on the 
flowers and you expect all the 

1311
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,640
petals to go up like confetti 
and it just doesn't. 

1312
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,440
No. 
Well, again, it's missed 

1313
01:11:42,440 --> 01:11:44,200
opportunities. 
Technically missed 

1314
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,640
opportunities, but there's a 
few. 

1315
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,680
There's a few faces. 
You've got Stanley Holloway 

1316
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:55,480
there and Alfie Bass. 
And the film reaches its its 

1317
01:11:55,680 --> 01:12:00,320
quivering climax when Quilby and
Sue are waiting for the river 

1318
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:06,120
bus on the Thames and this 
dickhead in the in the speedboat

1319
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,040
with the water skier. 
Yeah. 

1320
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,960
Well, no one would do that. 
It's bizarre. 

1321
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,920
There's there's a punt. 
There's a punt punting or what 

1322
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,000
do you call it? 
What do you call them? 

1323
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:24,360
Row is row is, that's the word. 
There's row is there's your man 

1324
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:28,200
with Pauline Fowler and friends 
who were just going for a bit of

1325
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,880
AI, don't know, bit of a 
pleasure cruise or whatever. 

1326
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,880
And then you've got this guy in 
a, in a, in a speedboat with a 

1327
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,080
water skier just absolutely 
tearing down the river and just 

1328
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,840
causing chaos. 
Yeah. 

1329
01:12:40,440 --> 01:12:44,280
Bizarre. 
It is bizarre, it feels. 

1330
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,760
Like off cut off cuts from 
another film. 

1331
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,200
Yeah. 
Stunt setups from Do You Only 

1332
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,240
Live twice or something? 
Yeah. 

1333
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,080
At the same time, yeah. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1334
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,400
I was, yeah, I was, I was like, 
I wasn't expecting it to take 

1335
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,880
this turn. 
And then you've got the, the, 

1336
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,200
the, the guy on the site that 
was coaching the the rowers and 

1337
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:06,480
he's that's. 
Ron Moody. 

1338
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:08,480
Ron Moody. 
Yeah, of course, yeah, Yeah. 

1339
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,320
And then he goes in that that 
van, which I thought was quite a

1340
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,560
funny gag to say. 
I thought it was a bit obvious 

1341
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,280
where he's on the bike and goes 
up the lorry and then comes out 

1342
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,360
the passenger door walking. 
Yeah. 

1343
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:24,800
And then he ends up being sort 
of throws a tire over one of 

1344
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:25,880
those. 
Life. 

1345
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,000
Life rings. 
Life rings. 

1346
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,760
Lifesaver things. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1347
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,600
And then he ends up sort of in 
one of those suspended 

1348
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:38,040
pretending to swim, which which 
I didn't like that bit. 

1349
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,880
No, yeah, I did like the guy, 
the guy who get and his wife who

1350
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,600
get covered in blue paint. 
That was quite funny. 

1351
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,840
And I quite like the bit where 
the guy on the the jet ski ends 

1352
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,080
up on the front of that. 
Is it a yacht or something? 

1353
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,760
Yeah, but just stuff happens. 
Just stuff happens. 

1354
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,720
And, and it's not particularly 
amusing. 

1355
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:01,160
Stephen and Sue make up and they
offered to drive Mr. Quilby home

1356
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,080
and he gets in the car and it 
turns out to be an amphibious 

1357
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,440
vehicle. 
Yeah. 

1358
01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:07,480
It's the spy who loved me on the
Thames. 

1359
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:12,320
A Triumph Herald, I believe. 
You wouldn't get me in that car.

1360
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,200
You would not get me in that 
car. 

1361
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,560
No. 
Not with Stephen and Susie 

1362
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:18,520
anyway. 
Not for me. 

1363
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,320
And they arrived back at Harold 
St. 

1364
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:24,920
Horace St. even I'm calling him 
Harold, he's Horace. 

1365
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,920
And and there's a big St. party 
because Esmeralda the pigeon has

1366
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,600
won the race or whatever the 
hell it was she was doing. 

1367
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,800
And everyone's happy. 
And the, the the Indians and 

1368
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,560
Burt Quark and Abdul providing 
the music. 

1369
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:46,320
And Brian Kent from Play School 
is the newspaper photographer, 

1370
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,040
and he's got hair. 
And then it sort of pans out and

1371
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,120
you think, oh, that's a nice, 
well, it's not really a nice 

1372
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,760
ending, It's just an ending. 
But then they decide, no, let's 

1373
01:14:54,760 --> 01:15:00,920
tack on completely incongruous 
ending of men wrestling and 

1374
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:05,640
Dolly birds clapping. 
It's one of the weirdest things.

1375
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,040
Yeah, it. 
Makes it. 

1376
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:08,600
Makes no sense. 
What's so? 

1377
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,040
I'm listening to the audio 
commentary and I'm thinking 

1378
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,760
right, OK, this is where we'll 
get the dope right? 

1379
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:19,480
This The producer will explain 
the thought process behind this 

1380
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:24,120
weird ending. 
And all he said was something 

1381
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,960
like, yeah, And then we decided 
to end up with wrestling. 

1382
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,080
I would literally. 
That's all he said. 

1383
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,320
I wouldn't have been leftover 
from another film where they 

1384
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:35,680
were like, well, we need to do 
something. 

1385
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,880
We've got this in the camp from 
this previous thing that we did.

1386
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,600
Should we just put that off it? 
Smacks of that. 

1387
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,280
So there we go. 
So, final thoughts. 

1388
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,200
Weirdly, what you're saying 
about the. 

1389
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,960
Jeff. 
Kate's podcast saying because I 

1390
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,960
I've put in my own notes, which 
I haven't looked at for about 3 

1391
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,640
weeks, that they are trying in 
inverted commas to make a virtue

1392
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,080
of multiculturalism. 
So I think that is, that's kind 

1393
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:26,920
of one of the messages, isn't 
it? 

1394
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,760
Yeah, which is? 
Which is positive, absolutely 

1395
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,400
positive. 
Yeah, it's not the worst film in

1396
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,960
the world of by any means, but 
it's just a shame. 

1397
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,160
Wasted potential I'd. 
Agree. 

1398
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,320
I think there's I think the like
you said, there's a lot of 

1399
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,280
potential. 
I liked all the stuff in London.

1400
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,200
I like the fact that it is 
filmed on location, but I just 

1401
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,040
feel like there's so many missed
opportunities and it made me 

1402
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,280
want to watch other films of 
like the time that I've enjoyed 

1403
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:57,880
more like blow up, you know, the
Michelangelo and T and Antonini 

1404
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,040
one. 
I always get these names wrong. 

1405
01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:03,400
And then there's Lindsay 
Anderson shark called the white 

1406
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,840
bus that I really liked. 
That's the thing called Red, 

1407
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,160
White and 0, which was like 3 
short films all put together, 

1408
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:13,080
which I'd recommend. 
And it's, it was written by 

1409
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,080
Sheila Delaney as well. 
And it's about taste of honey. 

1410
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,560
Yeah. 
So it's done in 67, so just 

1411
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,680
after this. 
And it's about a young woman 

1412
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,760
going from London to Manchester 
and goes on a tour of Manchester

1413
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,440
with Arthur Lowe's the Lord 
Mayor doing the tour. 

1414
01:17:26,440 --> 01:17:28,240
And it's really surreal and 
weird. 

1415
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,440
And yeah, I'd, I'd recommend 
watching that. 

1416
01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:32,600
And he just made me want to 
watch those again rather than 

1417
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,280
yes. 
But it had its moments, I'd say.

1418
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,560
I think if. 
I think if we were ranking it in

1419
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,600
our list, it would be kind of 
top bit of the bottom third 

1420
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,400
probably. 
So it's not, I mean it's not 

1421
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,520
nowhere near as as awful as some
of the crap right down the 

1422
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:52,280
bottom, but the the the brown 
face would pull it down a long 

1423
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:56,560
way for me. 
I, I, I wasn't a fan of it. 

1424
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,120
I kind of accepted it that it 
was part a product of its time 

1425
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,960
that unfortunately that is what 
you're going to get rather than 

1426
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,240
actually getting authentic 
actors in, unfortunately. 

1427
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,160
And I think like you said 
earlier, Tyler, it's not they're

1428
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,800
not making offensive kind of 
racial jokes. 

1429
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,600
Some of it, it's not great. 
I think, you know, it does feel 

1430
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,840
a bit caricature, but you know. 
I think had it just been those 

1431
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:23,880
two characters then it probably 
would wouldn't have annoyed me 

1432
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,720
anywhere near as much. 
But the the fact that Ben Teen 

1433
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,000
himself had to join in at the 
end? 

1434
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,520
Oh yeah. 
That. 

1435
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:34,360
Left more of a bad taste. 
Yeah, I could see that. 

1436
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,320
But you. 
Could see in that bit, that 

1437
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:41,560
short sequence where he's he's 
he's playing this Indian. 

1438
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,320
What is he owner of the jazz 
club. 

1439
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,200
You could see him really, he was
really into that character. 

1440
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,360
He was, he was doing some nice 
comedy business. 

1441
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,600
Despite everything, you know, 
despite the brown face, he was 

1442
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,320
doing some nice comedy business.
OK, there's the, there was the 

1443
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,880
stereotypical nodding and all 
the rest of it that that you 

1444
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,880
would get back then. 
But it's, it's why I think it's 

1445
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,400
it's so weird that he played the
central character who was so 

1446
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,880
bland. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1447
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,080
I, I, I don't know why he didn't
give himself more to do, to say 

1448
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:16,000
he was one of the writers on the
film, that he just decided to be

1449
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,680
this link between everything it 
would have. 

1450
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:23,200
Been it would have been so easy 
for him to play 678 characters 

1451
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:27,000
in this film. 
Just little, little, yeah, bits 

1452
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,040
in this film popping up here and
there as different characters. 

1453
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,640
But he decided not to. 
And it's. 

1454
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,240
Strange that you didn't get more
of his people from It's a Square

1455
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:37,120
World. 
Popular. 

1456
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,520
No, no Frank Thornton, Sir, or 
Clive Dunn. 

1457
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,160
You know that's true. 
Yeah. 

1458
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:44,400
You would have thought that with
it being almost like a spin off 

1459
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,240
that they would have been 
involved as well. 

1460
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:47,800
Yeah. 
I wonder if it was scheduling or

1461
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:48,880
something. 
I don't know but. 

1462
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,840
I think it could have replaced 
the superfluous kind of will 

1463
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,760
they won't they love story with 
Stephen and what's her name with

1464
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,920
him and Mrs. Devere would have 
been much more interesting, much

1465
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:04,200
more interesting I've. 
Wanted more Dora Bryan in this 

1466
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,680
film and yeah, we didn't get 
enough, I don't think. 

1467
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,200
No, because it no it. 
Sets it up so well. 

1468
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,400
But yeah, like a lot of things, 
there's a good setup. 

1469
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:17,000
Just not a good punchline, no. 
OK chaps. 

1470
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:21,280
Well, thank you so much. 
And so the third series of 

1471
01:20:21,440 --> 01:20:23,960
Britcom Goes to the Movies is 
coming out when? 

1472
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:29,560
October, mid-october, let's say.
I think it's going to be October

1473
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,160
the 9th. 
And it's starting off with a, 

1474
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,800
with a classic, stone cold 
classic on the buses. 

1475
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,000
Yeah. 
Absolute classic with John 

1476
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:38,800
Raine. 
Exactly. 

1477
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,520
We've been talking about it 
since the first series and we're

1478
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,400
finally doing it with John Raine
as well. 

1479
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,040
So it's a good, it's a do on the
buses I think. 

1480
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,640
And if people want to check you 
out on I mean, people are 

1481
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,800
leaving Twitter in droves, but 
if people want to check you out 

1482
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,400
on social media, how do they do 
that? 

1483
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,760
We're. 
We're at Brick Con, goes to the 

1484
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,600
movies on everything. 
So on Twitter, on Now, on Blue 

1485
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:08,160
Sky and on Insta as well. 
And then yeah, actually, that's 

1486
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,040
it for social media. 
Well, I'm at Robert C Heath on 

1487
01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:15,280
Twitter and guy. 
What are you guy at? 

1488
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,440
Guy at Guyston? 
Under score Walker, I think. 

1489
01:21:18,440 --> 01:21:21,200
It's at Guyston under score 
Walker on Twitter. 

1490
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,200
Brilliant. 
OK, guys. 

1491
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,400
Well, thank you so, so much. 
And next time we speak, it will 

1492
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,720
be to talk about a better film, 
hopefully. 

1493
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,040
Fingers crossed. 
Let us let us hope so. 

1494
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,520
I'll turn. 
To have you again, Tyler, Yes. 

1495
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,040
And we'll talk about Peter 
Sellers film. 

1496
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,960
Have to be, I don't know, Harry 
Seekim or Spike Milligan, 

1497
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:43,640
something like that. 
I don't know. 

1498
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:45,120
We'll sort something out. 
We'll sort. 

1499
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:46,440
Something. 
But yeah, thank you for having 

1500
01:21:46,440 --> 01:21:47,640
us. 
It's been good to talk about the

1501
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:48,280
Sandwich Man.