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I look how well if there's a 
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corporation that you're thinking
of leaving well John I have been

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getting offers it was you're not
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Remember. 
You're British Dear John. 

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What can I say? 
What's the matter? 

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What is aren't you happy with? 
This isn't isn't three pounds. 

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Ten a week enough, not quite 
job. 

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But man, alive, you a free copy 
of the radio times every week. 

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Yes, there is that. 
Well, now look, what is what 

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John? 
I've been given Authority with 

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you. 
Four pounds a week and you can 

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read the 9:00 news at 5:30. 
You 12m, take your own time 

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about it. 
First name. 

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That voice came out of a little 
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behind a fellow. 
My name is Mindy Siegel, what a 

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memory. 
You have not so fast. 

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I said it as slowly as possible.
Sir. 

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You're the famous John snack. 
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Sabrina love Portland Place, 
steady seagull or our ban your 

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record on housewives choice. 
I knew somebody who his ambition

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in life, but he didn't have 
great Ambitions. 

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But his one ambition in life was
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something so heinous, that he, 
oh my God, he would be arrested 

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by the Disneyland police and put
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Cellar that they talk about. 
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Is there a dragon in there and 
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Maybe Mickey goes in with the 
cash and counseling, If you 

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scatter, your loved ones ashes 
in the park. 

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So I heard that's a like, you 
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marched out and banned for like,
yeah, yeah, yeah, that that's 

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what he wanted to do. 
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So he may, well, he may well be 
serving time in Disneyland as we

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did, by the way, by the way. 
Hello and welcome to goon pod. 

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Hello! 
Hi. 

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Happy New Year. 
Yeah, Happy New Year. 

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I'm joined by my new best mate 
donna.donna. 

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We have to stick to the Forum. 
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And I'm gonna have to pretend 
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the last absolutely mates. 
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So I decide I'm gonna say, 
Donna, welcome to the show. 

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How are you? 
I'm fine. 

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How are you? 
Tyler mustn't, Grumble, Grumble 

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to quote, Stevie Merit from Lazy
Sunday. 

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It's not gone Flay. 
We could do a whole other 

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podcast about that as well. 
Real eye-opener. 

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Yeah, brilliant. 
Stanley Unwin, my dad. 

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My dad also loved as well as the
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Lobster me on one. 
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My as I'm not going to break the
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brought me to the goons and he 
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slightly. 
Off-kilter like that Vic and 

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Bob, he loved Vic and Bob, he 
loves young ones, Pete and Dad. 

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Yeah. 
Do you know what actually funny 

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enough former guest? 
In fact, I had a, he was on very

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recently, Jeremy Lim who was a 
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and talked about recently, 
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film two-way. 
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other things, a comedian and I 
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on went he is a remarkable. 
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piece doing so brilliant. 
That is quite an achievement to 

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do that to speak. 
Like that. 

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Yes. 
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orphan The good pound. 
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Hope all Gathering most to amuse
it and have a tilt, the elbow or

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a glass each a little while. 
So you keep old acquaintance, be

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forgot and never have a load out
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I don't know. 
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talkers for a very happy, 20 
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goodly by load. 
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you've already preempted. 
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I was going to ask you so your 
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the goons? 
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his vinyl collection. 
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cream, Led Zeppelin The Other 
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python all of those. 
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he really loved Peter Sellers 
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You know the you know his TV 
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though was the Q Series and 
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of Fred or anything like that, 
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Sellers. 
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Ealing, West London. 
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was was quite big eel of the 
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bolting Brothers films. 
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Inspector Clouseau films, and I 
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experiencing Peter Sellers was 
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I think two-way stretch, you 
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on telly and my dad going, do 
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is Inspector Clouseau and it 
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and it was almost like something
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thought I want to do that, 
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I just want to be other people. 
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Excessively as a as a kid and 
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other influences. 
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word, Rik, Mayall, all those 
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coalesced, and I sort of they 
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I went to a quite a posh, drama 
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School of speech and drama, 
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School of speech and drama and 
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Redgrave and Judi Dench, all 
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from the carry on Films gone 
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training. 
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Let's go. 
Okay, so I did actually reach 

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out to you in the in the past 
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want to come on and hmm talk 
about the show. 

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Yeah. 
A bit. 

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You're a bit reticent. 
I think I do. 

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I'm not quite sure you just 
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Maybe it wasn't for you but then
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Well I just thought I was going 
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at the list some of the people 
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going to listen to it. 
I thought it was just my own 

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insecurities really. 
Thinking are nobody's going to 

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want a little me but and then I 
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comedy, I've grown up around it,
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with with funny people and and 
so am I and a friend of mine, 

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actually, he's a stand-up 
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And he's always running jokes by
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He we were at drama school 
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And so we've known each other 
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this joke and that joke? 
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little Bit like, you know, Al 
stretching time, you know, but a

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sketch from Monty Python, maybe 
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said, you know, more about 
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a professional. 
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about comedy really hard. 
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Now, let's excellent, excellent.
And I know that if I think Chris

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Shaw for my guests, yes to 
dramas well to heed ye just said

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what you should do it you'll be 
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Just do it, do it so clear, I am
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Okay. 
And and it's quite it's quite 

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neat as well because the show 
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was special show where I counted
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the state has no no yes yes but 
And choke Kappa, sewed? 

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Okay. 
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And, and the show that we're 
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last stop being Coy, it is the 
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It, it was number two. 
Wow. 

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So I'm going to talk about, you 
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to talk a lot about greenslade 
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Because not not, not enough get 
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First of all, okay, the actual 
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20th of December 1955. 
So it was It was their Christmas

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episode. 
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in itself. 
They somewhere along the line. 

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the version you listen to it. 
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It also has a quite remarkable 
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Ellington number. 
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Is it the one with the The 
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Yes. 
Yes. 

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Bless re my dad. 
I just remember the needle on 

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the stereo gangs Music kicked 
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Oh, really go down case. 
Need listen to it but mostly I 

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think after a while but the kind
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let's get to the funny stuff and
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But yeah, that is very strange, 
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geldray. 
Max tend to listen to re more 

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and more these days and he 
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the green Side Story. 
That's Yang does. 

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through. 
He kind of breaks off and starts

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barking and sort of joshing with
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cats, right? 
Yeah. 

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Quit at the end where Wallace 
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currently appearing at Battersea
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during the song so he's 
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it is quite remarkable. 
But and certain versions of The 

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green Side Story that went out 
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transcription services, that 
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very seasonal seasonal. 
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So the The Pick of the goons 
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Edit of the green Side, Story 
replaces Jingle Bells with the 

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ABC Boogie from right on the 
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Spy Enigma and sort of pick that
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is a shame because it's it's 
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The Remington Jingle Bells but 
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stays on the right side of the 
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Yeah, 
come on boy. 

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Reddington is now appearing at 
the Battersea dogs home. 

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Ray Ellington is actually his 
ashes on near Peter Sellers 

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ashes in golders, green 
crematorium in his. 

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His plant gives right next to 
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used to live in East Finchley 
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which is like goon Central is 
Nick benchley. 

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So, I used to go up to Peg and 
Bill's flat and have a look 

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outside and wonder go to 
golders, green crematorium and 

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and there was big seller. 
Is Rose Bush, and railings, and 

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stare, and lots of other famous 
people to. 

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Yeah. 
Obviously. 

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Meant a great deal to be part of
that show and be, you know, you 

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were close to them. 
He maintained well, they all did

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Oscar. 
So he maintained railings in 

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maintained, you know, close ties
with the goons after the show 

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ended and yeah, you know, he 
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them. 
And so I've seen them on couple 

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of chat shows with Sellers, and 
yeah. 

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In the 70s, which is nice. 
I like, yeah, yeah, I always and

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Pete. 
Obviously, very famously said, 

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it was like the happiest time 
professionally in his life doing

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the Goon show that was his happy
place. 

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Yes, evening, yeah. 
So, so yes, it was broadcast on 

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the 20th of December 1955. 
It's from Series 6 episode 14 on

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the day was broadcast, just just
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became the capital of Wales, 
and, and Harold. 

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Melon became Chancellor of the 
exchequer, right? 

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Was recorded. 
Two days before was recorded on 

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the 18th of December, which is 
my daughter's birthday brother. 

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Yeah. 
I look to see what happened on 

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that day. 
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that the recently late Ray 
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bills them. 
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18th alongside another show, 
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Christmas day. 
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this, right? 
Yeah, that week. 

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robbed, which was basically just
a just retitled. 

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because there was an actual real
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and 11 people died. 
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episode and just replaced it 
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So, but yeah. 
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re-recorded the Bevins of a 
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that went out. 
I think the week after the great

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story, or something like that. 
Anyway, Spike wrote the script 

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and producer Peter eaten. 
And guest star Johnson egg. 

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Yeah, Jon Snow. 
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was, so such a champion of And 
save them quite right a few 

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popular. 
They were it was never under any

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threat but obviously clearly was
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senior BBC management over the 
years. 

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Did they not like huge amps and 
things like that? 

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Though. 
They didn't like, the, the 

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Anarchy or the establishment? 
Yeah, they were the 

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establishment. 
And this is this group of very 

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anti-establishment. 
Abla Shannon. 

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Yeah, and to be fair Spike, 
spike didn't make it easy. 

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A lot of the time and also, 
Peter Sellers was frequently 

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threatening to leave. 
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I mean, he was, he was just 
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of a prima donna, you know. 
I don't get any intention of 

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ever Christ Joe. 
But yes, yeah, you know what he 

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was. 
Like, he, he go to bed with one 

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idea and wake up with a 
different idea than exactly. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, speaking of sellers. 

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So the so this goes out and 
December 55, Around this time. 

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The ladykillers comes out in 
that in cinemas. 

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I love that film. 
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sellers. 
Big breakout role, though, he 

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wasn't the lead, he was one of 
the gang but again, you boy. 

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Yeah. 
You mentioned, Sellers and 

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two-way stretch and your father 
pointing out, you know, that's 

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closer. 
You look at Ya Sellers, as Harry

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in the lady killer, she'd you 
would not think it's the same 

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active. 
No, not at all. 

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It's just, it's incredible. 
How you would change, I know 

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that in that documentary. 
About sellers the arena one, 

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there's Harry seek him saying, 
you know, he would physically 

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change and become these people, 
it was. 

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Yeah, the ladykillers. 
It's just a great. 

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It's not a very showy 
performances it and and two-way 

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stretch isn't very showy either 
know, that just shows that he 

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had this sort of innate 
confidence in his abilities, you

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know, everybody's kind of 
spinning around him, really. 

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But he said, he inhabited the 
role already. 

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He's becoming a really great. 
Actor. 

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Yeah and and I think it's 
probably not that film The 

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ladykillers so much, but the 
Naked Truth. 

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When he really stole my God that
is a brilliant when he loses it 

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that scene when he loses it goes
when the guy mentions East ditch

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and he goes shut up about you 
Stitch and he's you know it's 

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really frightening. 
You've really get a sort of 

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insight into his sort of temper 
tantrums there and you know who 

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that old guy is that he shall 
answer We who is it? 

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Who was it? 
Wilfred Lawson and Wilfred 

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Lawson, you may know. 
Do you know the wrong box of? 

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Yes, yes will fit. 
Lawson is the decrepit old 

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Butler. 
Yeah. 

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Is it the same guy? 
Yes. 

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Oh that's a brilliant fact. 
Yeah, it's not entirely 

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successful film but I do I love 
I love Tony Hancock as well. 

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So he's at what, everybody's in 
that film, aren't they? 

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I don't think Tony Hancock 
remembered. 

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He was in that film. 
He was them. 

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Yeah. 
Well, there's only sales at the 

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time. 
Yeah, therefore fella, yeah, so,

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and and around this time, Harry 
is beginning, rehearsals as 

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buttons in Cinderella, which was
resolved at the Manchester 

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Palace Theater. 
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exact dates, but it was around 
December 55, Peter and Spike 

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recorded, a special show for the
light program called The 

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Listening Room. 
Okay, it's Peter, Peter mainly. 

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Doing. 
I think it's henrique run and 

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just it's kind of like a desert 
island discs. 

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Kind of idea. 
It's just a, it does exist and 

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still it. 
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it included the world premiere 
of, I'm walking backwards for 

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Christmas. 
How fantastic? 

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Yeah. 
Which spike and Peter recorded 

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on the 28th of December. 
Okay. 

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So that was that was after this.
To create must cross them. 

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It's the miner to me. 
But they just look at me and 

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you see me working backwards. 
And and it was included in the 

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the show, The Listening Room 
which also included Dance with 

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Me Henry, which was the B-side 
of Unchained Melody which was 

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the unreleased wounds single 
produced by George Martin. 

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Yes, yes us. 
I was thinking about George 

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Martin a day because I was 
listening to the because I love 

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all the sellers albums as well. 
And listening to the Suddenly 

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It's a folk song with yes 
hilarious. 

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And you can put the the kind of 
the kind of leery, West country,

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folk singer, and there's 
obviously more voices in the 

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background and I suddenly 
thought that really sounds like 

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George Martin in the back than 
it. 

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Probably was only was it like 
higher loads of people to help 

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out in those days. 
So they just got the, you know, 

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George Martin, and a couple of 
technicians can't just sing 

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along. 
You know, I love all that stuff 

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with, I really Handley did. 
It was. 

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Yeah, he's obviously had so much
respect for her because she 

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wrote some of those sketches 
didn't see this. 

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And it was a grassy. 
Oh that's so sweet and lovely 

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any so you can tell you so warm 
towards her and so respectful of

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her I'm thinking he wasn't like 
you know, it was very rare to 

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hear that in a way with sellers,
he was so every role was about 

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him, you know, he wasn't a very 
good Chooser of projects one, 

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see people, I know people I said
that because he just look at the

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role and see what. 
Oh, what can I do? 

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How can I excel? 
And it wasn't about the story or

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necessarily who be working with,
or this would be a great 

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experience. 
Is all about how flashy is this 

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role and what can I do with it, 
you know. 

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But with her with irony handle 
he really shared this scene with

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her in a way that he really 
didn't with other people at all.

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So that's quite special in a 
way. 

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I think that's always. 
I love irony and like she's 

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brilliant. 
She is regularly cited on this 

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show as one of the girls. 
Yeah yeah yeah. 

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I uh my first memory of her of 
course was as the the Dottie 

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grandma in metal. 
Icky. 

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Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. 
Yeah. 

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Probably may as well just seeing
her and on telly and, you know, 

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like in the rebel and stuff with
Tony Hancock. 

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Yeah, this is there's a famous 
story. 

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I'll put it. 
Cut those out. 

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I'd like to think it's true. 
I'd like to think it's true. 

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So, during the filming of metal 
Mickey, or when they're, when 

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they're preparing god-metal 
Mickey, they were using green 

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screen a lot, right? 
They had, I really handle and 

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they were sort of talking 
through the process of filming 

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and Young technician was was 
saying, right? 

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So miss mishandle. 
We've got this technology called

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green screen and he started, he 
started going through what it 

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involved and she sort of 
interrupted him. 

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And she said, oh, I'm sorry, 
dear, you're confusing me and he

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went, oh no, it's quite simple, 
actually, it's quite. 

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So when she was, she said, no, 
no, you're confusing me for 

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someone who gives a fuck. 
Ha ha ha. 

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I really hope that's true. 
True. 

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I really hope. 
That's true. 

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Oh my God, that is hilarious. 
I do love her. 

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I love, you know, the little 
detail because you can see it in

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like a later on with like Julie 
Walters, you know, with the sort

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of bra strap hanging down and 
things like that little details 

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like that is so good. 
You mentioned your dad possibly 

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saw or may have seen son of Fred
or shouldn't show called Fred. 

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Yeah, if he lived in the London 
area, that he possibly did, 

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because we'll certainly a show 
called Fred was only screened in

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London region, right? 
It wasn't networked. 

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It was on Associated 
rediffusion, okay? 

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Yeah, and the reason I mentioned
that is three days after the 

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green sludge story was broadcast
on television. 

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There was a screening of the 
dick. 

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Lester show, which dick Lester 
actually appeared. 

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It was his own show. 
Hey, and Peter, that was the 

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broadcast that Peter saw and was
so impressed for some reason, 

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not quite sure, because I don't 
think dick Lester was a 

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particularly great performer. 
But anyway, Peter phoned up 

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dick. 
Lester an hour. 

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If he would work with him on 
what was to become the saying, 

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oh no idiot weekly price. 
Tuppence use the which was the 

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Forerunner to show called Fred 
and that began early 56. 

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Okay, right. 
So as Richard Lester directed, 

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all those yeah? 
Oh wow. 

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And aren't they? 
Most of them wiped or pretty 

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much all of these things got 
wiped in. 

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They there's, there's there's a,
there's bits that survivors, 

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have private. 
Something that is fragments. 

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Yeah. 
We've covered the show called 

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Fred on this show. 
Yeah. 

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In fact, what Jeremy Lin who I 
mentioned before? 

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Yeah. 
And there's there's I'm not 

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quite coming back. 
How many that there's possibly 

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four or five, complete or 
incomplete episodes that 

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survived. 
And there's, there's some audio 

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of of one or two as well. 
I think there's no surviving 

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episodes at all after you do it 
weekly? 

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No, no. 
I had a feeling that, that It 

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doesn't exist anymore. 
It's absolutely is awful, Isn't 

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it? 
It's just such a shame. 

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Yes, you know that these were 
just, you know, they just taped 

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over repeatedly reused all the 
time recycled and when you know 

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we obviously we lost most of not
only but also and all those yes 

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well, terrible just terms of 
these days because of 

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digitization and just 
technology, everything can be 

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easily stored. 
There is where as you couldn't 

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easily store, you know try to 
keep everything Yeah, you need a

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massive Warehouse. 
They probably have like a shared

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out the back of TV Center and 
they just didn't have enough 

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room. 
Yeah. 

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So okay. 
So you imagine that your wallets

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greenslade and you know and you 
turn up at the Camden theater on

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the 18th of December 1955 and 
you get given the script and you

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see that it's called the 
greenslade store. 

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Can you imagine? 
It's brilliant, it's a great 

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idea. 
Like a star is Born. 

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But it's like a BBC announcer. 
Yes he was on form as well. 

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Luckily because he's very much 
front and center but this whole 

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show I mean the the premise is 
that it's yeah like you say it's

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the life of one has green said, 
how did he become this the star 

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BBC announcer from from such 
humble beginnings and I mean the

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first sort of Stand Out gag 
which everybody remembers is the

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Cambridge tie say it's so good. 
Yeah. 

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We don't write up is still 
relevant today. 

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Isn't it? 
The old school tie? 

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But yes, wave the time you'll 
get a job as a producer at the 

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BBC. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Spike was like, was using that 

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into the 70s if not Beyond, you 
know, that gate because he was 

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fighting them all the time was 
knee. 

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Yes, it's sort of it's almost as
famous. 

452
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,700
So goon show gag if you like as 
the what time is it? 

453
00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:56,500
Al's. 
Yeah. 

454
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,700
But but so greenslade obviously 
is applied for a job at the BBC 

455
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:07,100
and he's there waiting to be 
interviewed and okay, in the 

456
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:10,200
script, let me just find the 
script, okay? 

457
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:13,900
Because Peter Sellers plays both
the secretary. 

458
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,000
Yes, I love that character and 
it's I think in the original 

459
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,000
script and got it to hand, I 
thought I did the Peter Sellers,

460
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,400
what you call him the The chief 
announcer, who's going to 

461
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,300
interview the yeah, he's 
interviewing them. 

462
00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:30,300
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

463
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,000
He was like a audition like a 
like a auditioning for a part. 

464
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:37,800
Yeah, very much like that. 
He's down as I think something 

465
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,600
along the lines of pompous BBC 
announcer or something, pompous 

466
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:46,700
man, a man as a whole, but the 
secretary and sellers, as the 

467
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:51,000
secretary is on fire. 
It's it's it's so specific in 

468
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,300
its like heat. 
This is what sets them apart I 

469
00:28:53,300 --> 00:28:59,000
think from other People you 
could you have immediately have 

470
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,700
an image in your mind of that 
character because it's so 

471
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:07,200
specific The Voice you know that
he had come across people and 

472
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,500
think what I'm going to store 
that in the memory banks that 

473
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:13,500
voice is amazing. 
Like like the guy who inspired 

474
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:16,900
blue bottle glass which is an 
extraordinary voice. 

475
00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:20,100
That man had a Crookston he 
would still Hayward. 

476
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:26,800
Yeah. 
Yeah, it's just because it's out

477
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:32,400
Beyond The Genius that was but 
yeah, the slightly that's the 

478
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,400
haughty. 
But slightly fruity kind of 

479
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,200
secretary voices, just fantastic
and and you wouldn't know you 

480
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,900
could be easily forgiven for 
thinking that as someone else 

481
00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:43,400
that's not sad. 
As that could do that. 

482
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,800
Couldn't you lately? 
Yeah, absolutely. 

483
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,900
Yeah. 
And that voice he you try and 

484
00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:50,500
phone up for a doctor's 
appointment these days. 

485
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:54,300
You get that kind of. 
Yeah, receptionist don't forget,

486
00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:55,400
the gate. 
Keepers. 

487
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,800
Yeah, there's a sort of, you 
know. 

488
00:29:57,300 --> 00:29:59,600
Yeah, it's such a, it's such a 
great character. 

489
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,100
So small that it is just a 
throwaway character, really, 

490
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:05,400
it's only a few lines but, you 
know, so much thought went into 

491
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,600
it. 
Yeah, the detail of it. 

492
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,000
Good morning, Miss, I mr. 
W greenslade. 

493
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,600
Oh yes. 
You've come for the vacant post 

494
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,700
of an answer. 
Yes, I have do take a seat with 

495
00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:23,700
the other applicants. 
Thank you. 

496
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:28,200
I've sat down next to a man 
wearing a brass deerstalker. 

497
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:32,400
White Cricket boots and a 
shredded cardboard wig. 

498
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:55,600
Good morning. 
A variable, pardon winds light 

499
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:58,300
and variable. 
Oh, really, yeah. 

500
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:06,000
When like a variable I'm 
practicing, you know, don't tell

501
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,900
me you're applying for the post 
of announcer. 

502
00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:15,700
All your mind, all good at who, 
You see, I'm wearing a Cambridge

503
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:20,300
pie, you you would at Cambridge?
Yeah. 

504
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:23,600
What were you doing there? 
My own art pie, 

505
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,200
this is it who told them? 
Thousand pounds a year and a 

506
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,300
hunter. 
Get out you idiot. 

507
00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:49,500
Something like, wait a minute, 
you ain't even heard me speak. 

508
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:51,700
You will write to you. 
Well, that's no good. 

509
00:31:51,700 --> 00:31:58,700
I can read but she, but she 
actually refers to the pompous 

510
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:02,200
man that the interviewer as mr. 
Liddell. 

511
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:06,800
Where did that name come from? 
Well, I'm thinking it's a 

512
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,000
reference to all. 
Valid L&L valid L was another 

513
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,100
announcer, very famous BBC. 
Answer and I may come to later 

514
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:18,000
actually mention again. 
Okay, but it's unclear, but I 

515
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,100
think he's meant to be Elver 
Liddell but it's never quite 

516
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:23,700
made explicit, you know what I 
mean? 

517
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:27,200
But again, but again, Sellers as
this interviewer particularly 

518
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,100
when he when he obviously he's 
unimpressed by Eccles and kick, 

519
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:32,700
some kicks them out within 
seconds. 

520
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,500
Straight line. 
Oh and Echoes Vehicles, mentions

521
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:48,300
his electrician teacher 
electrocution lessons which, 

522
00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:52,000
which is an early memory. 
My dad used to say that a lot 

523
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,600
before I'd heard the Goon my dad
used to talk about electrocution

524
00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,100
less, it is when you listen back
so many things that your dad 

525
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:04,200
kind of said that that comes 
from like, well, my guys did 

526
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,000
too, and it's so weird. 
Listening back now, I can hear 

527
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:11,700
exactly the points, where my dad
used to Roar laughs, I can hear 

528
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:12,900
it. 
It in my head. 

529
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:15,500
You know, have that memory? 
Yes, that's quite nice. 

530
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:20,000
I was going to say cuz I write 
stuff down like the very tenuous

531
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,300
links. 
Like my family have to like 

532
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:24,500
various people involved with the
goods. 

533
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:26,200
Yes. 
Yes. 

534
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:32,400
My grandma used to be landlady 
of the Gatehouse Pub in Highgate

535
00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:37,100
and she actually barred Spike 
Milligan from her Bob. 

536
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:41,300
Right? 
What sort of behavior I didn't 

537
00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:43,900
obey. 
Maybe he was just he was a bit 

538
00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:46,800
out of control and if maybe he 
was sort of having a spiraling 

539
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,100
upwards kind of episode. 
Yeah. 

540
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:50,900
Or maybe he was just pissed. 
I don't know. 

541
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:53,700
It's just, he was, he was 
getting a bit out of control. 

542
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:56,200
So she she slung him out of a 
pub. 

543
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,200
Yes. 
Well, he wasn't though. 

544
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,700
He wasn't known for being a 
drunkard or a. 

545
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,300
No, he did not have that 
reputation, but maybe, as I say,

546
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:08,000
he wasn't, he was having a bit 
of an episode and in those days 

547
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,199
people didn't recognize that and
being a bit manic maybe and And 

548
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:19,699
you know, but yeah, she yes he 
talks about it, but my dad also 

549
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,000
had mental health issues and 
sort of had panic attacks. 

550
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,500
He had a real Affinity with 
Spike and often. 

551
00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:29,800
Whenever he heard spite was in 
hospital, used to write via 

552
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,400
normal Farms, letters to spike 
or I sent him a card. 

553
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,699
Get well card, I get letters 
back from Spike. 

554
00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:40,400
Do you still have them? 
I have a couple in a frame 

555
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,900
somewhere in storage. 
Yeah. 

556
00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:46,400
Well if ever you whenever you 
come across the next let me know

557
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,600
and send me a picture or 
something if I will. 

558
00:34:48,699 --> 00:34:51,900
Ya mind that be fascinating. 
Yeah yeah I've got I've got a 

559
00:34:51,908 --> 00:34:55,800
couple of them and my dad 
actually went to see Spike at a 

560
00:34:55,808 --> 00:34:58,900
book signing when he was very 
old and frail in Brighton where 

561
00:34:58,900 --> 00:35:00,300
my parents were living in 
Brighton. 

562
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,000
And there was a lady in the 
queue in front of my dad and she

563
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,200
had a sort of carrier bags of 
stuff. 

564
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,800
And when she got to the front, 
she got out all these little 

565
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,900
dolls. 
And she said, though, My dad 

566
00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:16,200
made these and they're all the 
Goon characters and Spike was 

567
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,400
looking at them and saying, oh 
my gosh, they're wonderful and 

568
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,100
he say and this lady said my dad
wanted you to have them but 

569
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:27,400
unfortunate couldn't be here 
today is not very well and 

570
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:29,800
spikes it all. 
What's his what's his name and 

571
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,200
address? 
And he's writing it down and he 

572
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,600
said we're not finished. 
Here I'll go and visit him and 

573
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,700
you just know Spike would have 
done that but it gave the poor 

574
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:42,000
fella, heart attack, you know, 
turning up on his doorstep. 

575
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,300
Step you just say no Spike would
have just yeah, you know, 

576
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:52,100
toddled off you know, yes drive 
or whoever it was and gone to 

577
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:55,600
this guy's house and I find that
really moving actually now 

578
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,400
because my dad is no longer 
here, my dad got a couple of 

579
00:35:58,408 --> 00:36:01,300
books sign then you think he'd 
get them signed for himself. 

580
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:04,400
But both books assigned to me, 
right? 

581
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Okay. 
Yeah, which is quite moving now 

582
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,300
because I know my dad had panic 
attacks and it was a big deal to

583
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:13,600
be in a queue waiting system. 
If he was, he wouldn't have done

584
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,600
it for anybody else. 
But Spike and the fact that I he

585
00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:20,000
dedicated them to me. 
I said it's a, you know it's 

586
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,900
very special it's the most 
Selene book and one of the later

587
00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:27,000
books about his family I think 
is it ends in magic or so? 

588
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,700
Yes, yeah, yeah. 
So those two. 

589
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:32,800
I've got spikes autograph. 
Excellent. 

590
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:34,400
Yeah. 
It's very sweet. 

591
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,100
Yeah. 
So and sell it the sellers at 

592
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,100
ourselves as mr. 
Liddell was very taken by 

593
00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:41,900
greenslade to the point that he 
almost starts. 

594
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,400
Coming into raptures describing,
delicious, isn't it? 

595
00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:50,100
It's delicious. 
It's like, he's like, I so 

596
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:53,400
overcome with emotion. 
I must say, actually, in this 

597
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,100
show they're all informed that 
sellers is, particularly on form

598
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:56,900
in this. 
Yeah. 

599
00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:00,700
So, yeah, I think just capture 
it like that, like we said, the 

600
00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:03,900
secretary mr. 
Liddell, and then later and I 

601
00:37:03,908 --> 00:37:05,700
want to come well looks can come
on till now. 

602
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:07,800
Let's jump ahead because I want 
to talk about Lou. 

603
00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:15,200
Today say come in for me, of 
course, one of course, come in. 

604
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:26,900
Who is it her agent? 
Come in please, you're gonna 

605
00:37:26,900 --> 00:37:43,900
kill him. 
You're finished all that shaving

606
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:47,000
and thing is all finished on 
with the mutters. 

607
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:54,100
It's all washed up. 
Valpo, annealed out front 

608
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:55,200
tonight. 
So do your best. 

609
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,800
I'll see you get a nice big 
bonus. 

610
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,900
Goodbye my lovely boy. 
The guilty. 

611
00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:06,900
He's my Dad loved that 
character. 

612
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,800
It didn't appear that much but 
when he did, he was very 

613
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,000
memorable. 
Yeah, obviously, over the top 

614
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:19,700
Jewish character based on the 
grade brothers and obviously Lou

615
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:25,500
is Lou turns up as Greensleeves 
manager, and it's just a force 

616
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:29,300
of nature. 
Yeah, he mentions by the way. 

617
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,200
I just picked up a because we're
recording the second morning. 

618
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,700
I got up this morning, had a cup
of coffee and just listen to the

619
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:40,100
show again, just although, you 
know, I could recite it without,

620
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:42,700
you know, know it so well. 
But I listen to it again. 

621
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:47,700
And one thing I picked up Lou is
very dismissive of seeking or 

622
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:54,100
seeking and seeking the seek him
talking about, he mentions on 

623
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:58,700
with the motley on with the 
motley was a single that Harry 

624
00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:01,200
seeking to put out. 
In November, right? 

625
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,100
I think it got to number 16 and 
the charts or something and and 

626
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:08,300
the character of Lou was very 
dismissive of that, but he's but

627
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:14,500
he's all over greenslade and he 
promises Ed Sullivan TV and it 

628
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:17,700
just occurred to me that 
actually, three of the goons 

629
00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:22,700
have appeared on The Ed 
Sullivan, Show benteen seek Him 

630
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,900
and sellers have all appeared on
The Ed Sullivan Show, right? 

631
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:29,200
This is Spike never appeared. 
I don't think he did know most 

632
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,000
about it. 
I haven't had time to check 

633
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,800
because there's only this 
morning that this occurred to me

634
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,000
benteen appeared. 
A couple of times, I think in 

635
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:42,100
the very early 50s, he was over 
there in America and appeared 

636
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,700
now, seek Him appeared in the 
early 60s when he was doing 

637
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:51,200
Pickwick it on Broadway. 
Yeah, and also certainly 

638
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,900
sellers, he may have appeared 
more than once but I know that 

639
00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:57,000
he appeared on film promoting 
after the fox. 

640
00:39:57,700 --> 00:39:59,200
The film right? 
Yes. 

641
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,000
With with Britt the new 
characters, borderline 

642
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:09,300
offensive, I suppose you you 
kind of give give obviously you 

643
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:12,000
give them a free pass because 
sellers was Jewish anyway but 

644
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,200
stare. 
Yeah but I do love that 

645
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:19,400
character. 
Yeah great character and but but

646
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:24,900
circling back obviously Ned has 
this school for a private school

647
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:33,200
for announcers, is it? 
6,000, trainees, the sad sad 

648
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,600
indictment is that equals is the
star pupil. 

649
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:37,800
And I love that. 
I love. 

650
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:40,100
I love when they're protesting, 
because they've obviously roped 

651
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:42,300
in the band too. 
Yeah. 

652
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,800
Add some voices Pro? 
Yes, and I love it. 

653
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:51,800
It's just a slight little 
throwaway thing that you miss, 

654
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:55,900
when they, when they protesting 
and and see green kind of calms 

655
00:40:55,900 --> 00:40:59,000
them down. 
One of them is one of the the 

656
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:12,700
end goes warning. 
Brad, please gentlemen, keep up 

657
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:14,400
your spirit. 
It's just something about it. 

658
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,100
Just tickles me. 
I must have absolutely loved 

659
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:20,400
cup. 
Like, like the sound effects 

660
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,900
Department must have just loved 
doing. 

661
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:24,300
The Goon show. 
Yes. 

662
00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:27,000
And the musicians, just 
absolutely love it. 

663
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:29,600
Yeah, like the highlight of 
their week, working on that 

664
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,500
show. 
They Love this. 

665
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:37,000
Yeah, and it's so important that
all three Harry Spike and Peter,

666
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,000
were all very musical because, 
you know, music and rhythm is so

667
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,200
much part of the comedy. 
Yeah, it is. 

668
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:46,600
And I can't remember when it 
was. 

669
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:52,700
I posited the theory probably 
completely wrong that. 

670
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,500
What you've just said there is 
yes, you can sell as Megan. 

671
00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:59,400
All musical benteen Banting 
wasn't right? 

672
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,000
Yeah, that's very interesting, 
isn't it? 

673
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:04,700
But he didn't quite fit. 
Maybe, maybe there is a rhythm 

674
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:08,200
and a tutu gags, isn't there? 
And there's a, there's a 

675
00:42:08,300 --> 00:42:12,100
musicality to what they were 
doing and sort of riffing off 

676
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:15,500
that coming back to a central 
theme is very Jazzy, isn't it? 

677
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:17,000
Yes. 
Yeah. 

678
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:18,700
I'm you said you lived in East 
Finchley. 

679
00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:22,100
I'm sure you know, if you've 
been to East Acton, I went to 

680
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:23,900
school in East Acton. 
Can you believe? 

681
00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:26,900
I actually went to school in 
east east. 

682
00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:29,400
Acton didn't experience any 
earthquakes though. 

683
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,800
But I did, I did go to to school
went to a performing arts school

684
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,900
in East Acton, right? 
Yeah, that was so so there's a 

685
00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:40,900
there's a little tenuous link 
there to this to the greenslade 

686
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:44,600
story as well. 
They were Quakes midi High is 

687
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,300
gripped by the Moriarty to 
kidnap the BBC announcing stuff.

688
00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:51,600
There's a lovely little bit when
grip pipes then or seller's as 

689
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,700
grip pipe then almost corpses. 
We must apologize for the break 

690
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:57,100
in the news. 
In the meantime here is a 

691
00:42:57,100 --> 00:43:10,100
records It's great though. 
Yes Magic. 

692
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,500
And then and then we have this. 
This is wings like to very into 

693
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:14,900
something that's me. 
That's right. 

694
00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:20,200
That's right, that's right but 
we have the the standout 

695
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,500
sequence I suppose is the is the
two-hand essentially between 

696
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:28,800
snag on snag and greenslade. 
It's so good which isn't which 

697
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,400
is trying to think of a 
comparable goon show scene, 

698
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:39,200
where none of the Goons Around 
it in that black sea for two or 

699
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,000
three minutes or however, long 
it is. 

700
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,600
And I can't think of a 
comparable. 

701
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:48,900
Seen the BBC sends Jon Snow to 
persuade greenslade not to not 

702
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:52,400
to leave, and that's just 
amazing. 

703
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,000
And you can just because your 
Johnson egg had been or was at 

704
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,300
this time Greensleeves boss as 
well, right? 

705
00:43:57,300 --> 00:43:58,500
Life. 
Yes. 

706
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,300
So he comes crawling crawling to
him. 

707
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,900
Yeah, it's great. 
I love A bit. 

708
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:08,900
When he's saying, man alive, you
get a free copy of the radio 

709
00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:13,600
times every week and he UPS his 
salary to four pounds a week. 

710
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:15,100
Yeah. 
Spike. 

711
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:18,900
By the way. 
Was paid initially on the Goon 

712
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:22,200
show. 18 pounds a week for 
writing and Performing, okay? 

713
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,900
So so I don't know with 
inflation. 

714
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:26,400
I didn't check how much that 
would be today. 

715
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:32,100
But, you know, for pound a week,
18 pound is not a huge hike from

716
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:35,500
for bag because there are no. 
It's yeah. 

717
00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:38,700
Well, he was always, he was 
always better that he was paid 

718
00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:41,200
less than the other two. 
It's like, you know. 

719
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,800
Yeah. 
That's and what it cost him a we

720
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,700
all know, you know what, it cost
him to to churn. 

721
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,000
Out those shows every week. 
Yeah. 

722
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,400
And the toll it took on him that
is appalling, that he was paid, 

723
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,200
so little and less than the 
other two. 

724
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,800
Yeah, terrible grip. 
Pipe then comes along and offers

725
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,500
greenside £5 to appear on the 
stage. 

726
00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:06,900
There isn't that much? 
Does he say? 

727
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:12,900
Yes, really enjoying it. 
You can tell they're really 

728
00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:15,900
enjoying that scene. 
So they would have had a sort of

729
00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:18,500
table read There are set around 
beforehand and read through the 

730
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:20,700
script. 
Well, what they, what they would

731
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:23,200
do is they would they would 
arrive at the Camden in the 

732
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,300
early afternoon on Sunday. 
They do the three of them would 

733
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:30,200
well-liked and greenslade and I 
guess snag would do a 

734
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,900
run-through of the script 
without the orchestra. 

735
00:45:32,900 --> 00:45:37,600
I think in without the FX guys 
on possibly with the FX guys, 

736
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:41,600
and then they do another 
rehearsal with the orchestra. 

737
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,500
Hmm. 
And then they do the show in the

738
00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:47,200
evening, that's quite 
terrifying. 

739
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,600
But quite exciting, isn't it at 
the same time? 

740
00:45:49,900 --> 00:45:54,400
Yes, you can imagine that that 
Rush that sellers, that's the 

741
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,700
thing that all of them. 
Well, I know Spike was probably 

742
00:45:57,700 --> 00:46:00,700
different because he had other 
pressures going on, but sellers,

743
00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:03,600
you know, had him a script and 
because let him go it probably. 

744
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:05,600
Yep. 
That's, that's He loved it so 

745
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,900
much obviously because it was so
exciting. 

746
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,800
Yeah. 
And one of the things, one of 

747
00:46:09,808 --> 00:46:11,500
the great things about this 
scene as well, as you can hear 

748
00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:15,700
Sellers, and Milligan and 
particular offstage giggling 

749
00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:17,600
laughing. 
Yeah. 

750
00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:23,200
So, in the end segan offers 
Johnson egg equals who he takes 

751
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:31,300
off his tricycle and we get to a
bit We're Echols sings the the 

752
00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:34,900
tune of the man from Laramie but
it's become the man from 

753
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:37,900
Coventry. 
Did you pick up on that? 

754
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,000
If I pick up, I don't remember 
that bit but maybe I didn't. 

755
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,700
Who's who's from Coventry, 
right? 

756
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:46,700
Okay, well I just want to very 
quickly talk about commentary 

757
00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:49,300
here, okay? 
Cuz because it's an end of 

758
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:50,900
documented this on the show 
before. 

759
00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:52,900
So I won't go into too much 
detail because people people 

760
00:46:52,900 --> 00:46:58,300
know this but in early early 
November, To early December 55. 

761
00:46:58,300 --> 00:47:02,000
The goons had appeared at the 
Coventry Hippodrome in a series 

762
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,800
of shows, I think it was marking
the city's birthday. 

763
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,900
I'm not sure what birthday it 
was, but it was like, it was 

764
00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:13,700
like a variety show written by 
buy them by Jimmy graft and Eric

765
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:17,800
Sykes and Larry, David Stevens. 
Yeah, and they were all stare at

766
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,900
She interviewed at the 
Hippodrome for a home service 

767
00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:24,700
program and that was broadcast 
on the 18th of November. 

768
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,100
Well, I'm here in the dressing 
room of the At Coventry, there's

769
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:30,900
no and here the goons I could 
ask them to introduce 

770
00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:32,800
themselves. 
First of all, hello, I'm Jung, 

771
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,100
Min T. 
Seagle what are we normally now?

772
00:47:34,100 --> 00:47:37,100
You ask, how does he go? 
How do you, how do you do? 

773
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:46,600
Hey, end up bleep battle in 
cupboard nature thing threatens 

774
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,500
friends were getting me up. 
Didn't on this reading program 

775
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,500
thing, I will exit left now for 
another continued. 

776
00:47:53,500 --> 00:47:56,100
Keeping just about how are you 
and bring back? 

777
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,700
In one of the goons, aren't you?
Yeah. 

778
00:47:58,700 --> 00:48:08,900
And how do we know Spike 
Milligan a talk? 

779
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:12,800
Like that? 
Like that? 

780
00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:20,000
Yes, I like that. 
And hello there. 

781
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:26,100
Folks, the country shows were 
not a success Spike. 

782
00:48:26,300 --> 00:48:30,100
Particular was really depressed 
by the reception that had from 

783
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:34,200
the audiences. 
And there's a there's a couple 

784
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,000
of famous stories, one that he 
stamped on his trumpet in 

785
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:41,800
frustration. 
Oh yes, one that he'd tried to 

786
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,200
hang himself in his dressing 
room although that works. 

787
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,100
Yes, I heard about that. 
Yeah, right about that one. 

788
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:49,900
That Peter Sellers was so 
outraged by the audience that he

789
00:48:49,900 --> 00:48:52,300
just went out and sat around. 
Cordon made a record of 

790
00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:54,800
lollipops Christmas, that's it. 
Yeah. 

791
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,000
So I remember that. 
Yeah. 

792
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,900
So that was that was the 
Coventry experience. 

793
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,300
Okay, right. 
And for some time, after this 

794
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:06,600
Spike would include these 
references to Coventry very 

795
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,300
bright from complimentary 
references. 

796
00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:11,200
Yeah. 
So it's a byword for awfulness. 

797
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,900
Yeah. 
It's a bit like David Bowie and 

798
00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:17,200
Croydon apparently. 
Oh also say that's so cool. 

799
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,800
Widen his. 
All right, to him Croydon 

800
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,800
represented everything he hated 
and everything he was running 

801
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,700
away from right. 
Okay. 

802
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,200
This is a similar thing. 
Coventry was like, you know, 

803
00:49:28,700 --> 00:49:31,500
yeah, well in the original 
script for the green Side Story,

804
00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:35,400
there's a bit that either wasn't
recorded or was never, or was 

805
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,600
recorded, but never included in 
the in the show, okay? 

806
00:49:39,500 --> 00:49:41,300
And I just want to read you this
little bit of script because 

807
00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:44,100
it's quite interesting. 
So it's at the bit where John 

808
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:49,100
snag take seconds off on his 
tricycle, and in the script in 

809
00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:53,800
the script. 
It says, it says, next day you 

810
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,000
took greenslade off and it's 
triumphal stage to it. 

811
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,700
Birmingham and then it says, G 
as in sound effects, big 

812
00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:07,200
Applause, whistles big appear, 
then Spike says Bristol G, big 

813
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,900
Applause, and Peter says 
Manchester G Applause, with 

814
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:18,100
thunder driving rain and sneezes
Harry says, Glasgow G mad 

815
00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:19,800
Applause with bagpipes of 
course. 

816
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:25,400
And then Spike says Coventry and
in the script it just says 

817
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,500
silence. 
Yeah, and then and then G, 

818
00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:37,600
single sheep bleating. 
I think most people that want to

819
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,400
be famous. 
It's like almost like an act of 

820
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,400
Revenge, you know, they just 
want to get back at everybody. 

821
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,800
That's ever, slighted them or 
every bad experience in use that

822
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,000
in, you know, whatever they are 
successful at. 

823
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,500
Yeah, so that is the that's 
Coventry. 

824
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:55,400
So he know, he never got over 
Coventry, still was talking 

825
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,800
about it years. 
After and I want to mention by 

826
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,600
the way, there's also a callback
to a earlier goon show episode 

827
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,700
which I only picked up on the 
other day. 

828
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,900
The bit where sequence says, 
I've got a hunch and grip that 

829
00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:15,400
says it's suji. 
It's so cute and then he goes 

830
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,700
on, goes on to say to a black 
jack and my red. 

831
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:22,600
He says no, mine's red and gray.
Pipe says nevermind decals as 

832
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,000
colorblind. 
Anyway, that's a call back. 

833
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,000
Possibly or may not be a cool 
about it. 

834
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,300
May it may not be intended to be
but an earlier show that in the 

835
00:51:32,300 --> 00:51:38,600
series foiled by President Fred.
The the the to the penultimate 

836
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:43,900
scene hinges on the fact that 
Echols is colorblind, right? 

837
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,500
So I like the fact that, you 
know, I maybe I'm overanalyzing 

838
00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:51,900
this but I like the fact that 
they reference that again that 

839
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:55,500
could well be or all or could be
like you know, a bit like 

840
00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:57,500
Dickens. 
You know, spikes churning this 

841
00:51:57,500 --> 00:52:00,200
stuff out and it's like, you 
know, there's no time to really 

842
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,000
to check. 
If I had done that before and 

843
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,000
just keep going, keep moving 
forward, writing script. 

844
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:07,300
Yeah, but yeah, it could. 
Well be a callback and that's 

845
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:10,900
part of their Echols, you know, 
make up there cause backstory. 

846
00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:14,700
Yes backstory. 
Yeah, I want to mention the 

847
00:52:14,700 --> 00:52:19,900
scene where fallen on bad times 
segan and greens later outside 

848
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,800
busking on the street. 
Yeah let's Slide the Palladium 

849
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,600
and and Comes up and doesn't 
quite recognize them and thinks 

850
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,200
and he says you Jolin walrus. 
Oh, yeah. 

851
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,800
Now we know Morecambe and wise, 
do you had you heard of Jimmy 

852
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:43,000
Joel and by has yeah, Jimmy 
Jewel and yeah, notorious, what 

853
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,900
was that sitcom? 
He did Nelly pledge God. 

854
00:52:45,900 --> 00:52:49,300
It was a terrorist embarrassed. 
Yes, well, they absolutely hated

855
00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:52,500
each other than any didn't speak
on what a nightmare. 

856
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,900
Didn't they hated each other? 
Famously. 

857
00:52:56,900 --> 00:52:59,700
Yeah. 
And must have been hell for the 

858
00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:03,300
all the people everybody else 
working on that particular show.

859
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:08,500
But yes, Jimmy Joe, I haven't 
seen footage of Jewel and Morris

860
00:53:08,500 --> 00:53:09,600
but I've certainly heard of 
them. 

861
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,400
Yeah. 
Like to do like him one foot in 

862
00:53:12,408 --> 00:53:15,000
the grave. 
I wasn't a regularly. 

863
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,400
I mean, I've seen various 
episodes, but I didn't watch it 

864
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,600
regularly, but yeah, I know. 
I know a bit about it right. 

865
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,500
Okay, the reason I'm saying is 
because Jimmy Jewel, one of the 

866
00:53:24,508 --> 00:53:27,600
last roles he ever had was in. 
In one foot in the grave. 

867
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,000
I was here. 
Yeah, as an old man, as I know 

868
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,900
it must have been pretty old 
then, but it's quite a pivotal 

869
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,000
role in the particular episode 
because he because his character

870
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,900
gets murdered. 
Would you believe my name? 

871
00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:41,900
Yeah. 
And the Morecambe and wise 

872
00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:46,100
reference obviously today that 
would seem listening today or 

873
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:48,600
listening back in the, in the lp
came out. 

874
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:51,000
The green said, sorry you just 
thought, well, hang on, more 

875
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,200
than ways of the biggest stars 
in Britain, but obviously, as 

876
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:59,000
ever as everyone knows not, then
not, then they had this 5954 

877
00:53:59,900 --> 00:54:03,800
comedy show called running wild.
Oh, the one the Box they buried 

878
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,600
multi-man wise in that famous 
this oats. 

879
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,500
Yeah, that's right. 
And didn't Eric Eric. 

880
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,500
Yeah, because that was, that was
the scathing television. 

881
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,700
Yeah, and yeah, carried a 
clipping of that review around 

882
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:16,400
in his wallet to me until the 
day he died. 

883
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,400
I think. 
Yeah. 

884
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:18,600
That's right. 
Yeah. 

885
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:22,700
And and there's a great. 
There's a look, I know we've 

886
00:54:22,700 --> 00:54:25,800
kind of rushed through this, but
there's another, the great sort 

887
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,800
of Dumont for the, for the 
episode is, is Luber. 

888
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,700
Similar Nichols is about to go 
on stage. 

889
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,800
Saying it's happened again. 
The audience have gone home. 

890
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,700
Oh yeah, my dad. 
Loved that line ever gone up and

891
00:54:36,700 --> 00:54:38,900
gone over. 
I don't know why. 

892
00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:40,800
I just really tickled him. 
Yeah. 

893
00:54:40,900 --> 00:54:42,800
But if you were listening to 
this, you know, at the time it 

894
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,700
went out and you'd be looking at
your watch thinking. 

895
00:54:44,700 --> 00:54:48,600
Well it's nearly 9:00 and 
bluebottle still not turned out 

896
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,300
what's going. 
Yeah, then where is he? 

897
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:52,100
There is, there he is right at 
the end. 

898
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:03,700
This is the BBC has 78 Blue 
Button. 

899
00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:12,700
We can use perfect. 
Perfect ending. 

900
00:55:12,700 --> 00:55:17,000
I think for one who was not, you
know, Spike often struggled to 

901
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,100
end episodes but this is a 
perfect wrapping up I think. 

902
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:28,200
Yeah, and I just wanted to 
because because this is this 

903
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,000
episode of the green Side Story.
I thought it was the appropriate

904
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,000
time just to talk a bit about 
greenslade himself before we 

905
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:35,900
wrap up with. 
That's okay. 

906
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:38,900
Yeah, I'm see fine because 
there's not a huge amount of 

907
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:42,900
information out there about him,
but I've cobbled together from 

908
00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:47,100
various sources including give 
thanks to Duncan Gray for some 

909
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:49,600
of this information. 
He he wrote a fantastic article 

910
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,900
for the Goon show preservation. 
In Society magazine earlier, 

911
00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:57,300
this year to Mark, Walls 110th 
birthday. 

912
00:55:57,500 --> 00:56:00,300
Whoa. 
Yeah, because he was born first 

913
00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:06,400
of July 1912 as well as 
Frederick Powers greenslade Bond

914
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,300
and form, be, which I think is 
Liverpool. 

915
00:56:08,300 --> 00:56:13,700
Isn't it greens like was married
to a lady called Carol? 

916
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,800
It's all I can find out. 
I don't know if he had any 

917
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,900
children at. 
Don't don't know if he did, I 

918
00:56:18,900 --> 00:56:21,400
can't find out but he served as 
a lieutenant. 

919
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,500
Wanda in the Royal Navy Reserve 
during the war, okay? 

920
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:28,400
And as a person with the piano 
shipping line and join the BBC 

921
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,900
after the war as as an 
announcer. 

922
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,800
And by the end of the decade, he
was a full-time staff announcer 

923
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,500
on the home service. 
Mhm. 

924
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:39,700
You must have got popular enough
that he actually had his own. 

925
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:43,700
He was a Castaway on desert 
island discs in right December 

926
00:56:43,700 --> 00:56:48,500
52, which doesn't exist anymore.
Sadly because that would give a 

927
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:50,800
lot of information. 
I would imagine. 

928
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,700
What wouldn't? 
That. 

929
00:56:51,700 --> 00:56:54,100
Yeah, because you go on 
Wikipedia, there's very little 

930
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:58,000
information about him there as 
but yeah, that would have been 

931
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,600
lovely to listen to him, just 
being himself and giving some to

932
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,400
detail about his his life. 
Yeah, indeed. 

933
00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:10,100
Yeah. 
And he turns up, he joins the 

934
00:57:10,100 --> 00:57:13,900
Goon show in October 53, early 
on, in the fourth series. 

935
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:18,000
Starting with through the sound 
barrier in an airing cupboard, 

936
00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:23,100
replacing Andrew Timothy, who 
decided to leave The only 

937
00:57:23,100 --> 00:57:26,300
surviving recording with green 
State on is from show 15 of the 

938
00:57:26,300 --> 00:57:28,300
fourth series, which is the 
missing prime minister. 

939
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,700
Okay? 
Yeah. 

940
00:57:31,500 --> 00:57:35,400
And greenslade himself made the 
news in September 54. 

941
00:57:36,300 --> 00:57:41,500
So the Daily Mirror reported on 
his appearance in the whistling 

942
00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:44,700
spy Enigma, which was the first 
of the fifth series and it was 

943
00:57:44,707 --> 00:57:46,500
the 100th episode of the Goon 
show as well. 

944
00:57:47,500 --> 00:57:50,200
And in that show, I don't know 
if you remember the beginning of

945
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,000
the Muslims, by Enigma Green 
Slade's appearance. 

946
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,100
He he's introduced, wearing 
chains 

947
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,400
and the Daily Mirror. 
There's a headline titled Clank,

948
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,000
Clank, it's 9:00 Wallace again, 
and the piece reads. 

949
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,800
I'll just read this out on a 
screen. 

950
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,400
Slide, the BBC announcer, who's 
recording of last Wednesday's? 

951
00:58:21,500 --> 00:58:24,400
Clock news caused such trouble 
is on the air again. 

952
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,700
Tonight in the gun shows 
hundredth program when the show 

953
00:58:27,700 --> 00:58:30,000
was recorded on Sunday, the 
studio audience roared with 

954
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,000
laughter because green sleds 
first appearance at the 

955
00:58:32,008 --> 00:58:34,800
microphone was accompanied by a 
loud clanking of Chains. 

956
00:58:34,808 --> 00:58:39,200
It's suggested in fun that the 
BBC were punishing him for his 

957
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,800
muddled reading of the news and 
but as a result of this 

958
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,700
appearance, he has caused 
another spot of bother British 

959
00:58:46,700 --> 00:58:49,200
Equity. 
The end is Trade, union has 

960
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,200
protested to the BBC because 
it's variety. 

961
00:58:51,500 --> 00:58:54,500
Element names, him as two-ton. 
Terrence O'Toole in the Goon 

962
00:58:54,500 --> 00:59:01,800
show cast Equity, Equity. 
As I can say, buddy, Equity has,

963
00:59:02,500 --> 00:59:06,200
why do I say that Equity has an 
account with the BBC that 

964
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,600
announces must not be billed as 
performers and mr. 

965
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,300
Green Slade's no name appears on
the radio. 

966
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:14,500
Times, the BBC said last night, 
it's a slip on our part. 

967
00:59:14,500 --> 00:59:17,000
We've been able to delete mr. 
Green Slade's name from the cast

968
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,700
given on the recording, but it 
was too late to alter the radio 

969
00:59:19,700 --> 00:59:21,400
times. 
Okay, so yeah. 

970
00:59:22,700 --> 00:59:24,100
Obviously, that was a Daily 
Mirror article. 

971
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,100
Now, his muddled reading of the 
news now I wonder what all that 

972
00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:28,700
was about. 
Yeah, wasn't that? 

973
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:36,200
This is the 9:00 noise, was it? 
No, but Nick, Reeve who does the

974
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,700
wonderful sea, green Memoirs, 
blog. 

975
00:59:37,700 --> 00:59:42,300
And as former guest on this 
show, okay, he did some digging 

976
00:59:42,900 --> 00:59:46,200
and he found this front page 
article from the Birmingham 

977
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,800
Daily Post from 23rd of 
September 1954. 

978
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,700
And the headline is Is BBC 
newsreader was nervous. 

979
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,700
Okay, that's the and it 
describes an unnamed news 

980
00:59:57,700 --> 01:00:01,900
announcer making a few errors 
while we're on a clock. 

981
01:00:01,900 --> 01:00:03,500
Mutant nine o'clock news. 
Okay. 

982
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,900
Yeah. 
One listener said that though 

983
01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:10,900
the announcers articulation was 
slow and deliberate, he made 

984
01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:14,200
slips in introducing items which
he corrected, he said, 

985
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,300
opposition for opposite 
direction. 

986
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,700
Rectifying the mistake 
immediately and later had 

987
01:00:18,700 --> 01:00:21,200
difficulty in pronouncing the 
word association in. 

988
01:00:21,500 --> 01:00:24,000
To an association football 
result. 

989
01:00:24,500 --> 01:00:26,400
Now, I'm wondering whether 
there's some drinking being 

990
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:31,200
taken, to be honest, possibly 
the livable echo on the same day

991
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,200
named greenslade as the 
announcer responsible. 

992
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,600
He was Duty Reserve announcer 
for the day, was not scheduled 

993
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,700
to read the news, so it was 
obviously short notice, and he 

994
01:00:39,700 --> 01:00:42,700
wasn't prepared. 
And he was actually, green said 

995
01:00:42,700 --> 01:00:49,400
was approached by the Liverpool 
Echo and asked about it and he 

996
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,700
said, I felt slightly harassed, 
but there were no flow, Is that 

997
01:00:51,700 --> 01:00:53,200
all everything went off. 
All right? 

998
01:00:53,300 --> 01:00:57,100
Okay, okay. 
So he'd ever see gained a bit of

999
01:00:57,100 --> 01:01:01,900
reputation for at that period in
a way for, you know, muddling up

1000
01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:06,100
the news and but I just like the
fact, you know, that's it's a 

1001
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:08,300
little insight into into 
greenslade there. 

1002
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,000
Yeah. 
But obviously, from the fifth 

1003
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,400
series of the Goon show, it 
really moved up again and 

1004
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,500
matured into the show that we 
all know and love today. 

1005
01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:18,700
And, and obviously Spike and the
other writers would be giving 

1006
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,400
Wallace a lot more to do, and he
frequently interrupted. 

1007
01:01:21,500 --> 01:01:26,900
It to plug the radio times, he 
had his own fan club. 

1008
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:29,100
The green Slater's. 
Wow. 

1009
01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:32,000
He would often take on small 
roles where he had to adopt an 

1010
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,100
accent like a French accent in 
Napoleon's piano from yes. 

1011
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:38,700
Yes, of course he was the 
Phantom head shaver of course, 

1012
01:01:38,900 --> 01:01:42,200
of course yet. 
And in 54, he also started 

1013
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,800
reading the news on BBC 
television. 

1014
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,100
Yeah, and he's so much more 
confident and more experienced 

1015
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:50,500
by then a safe Pair of Hands. 
Well, it was around this time, I

1016
01:01:50,508 --> 01:01:54,600
mean I just think maybe Maybe he
was, he hadn't been prepared to 

1017
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,000
read the news that night and 
just maybe it had a drink or 

1018
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,300
something. 
And rice. 

1019
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,500
There is no. 
But get him out the pub and 

1020
01:02:00,500 --> 01:02:02,200
throw him on. 
Yes, yeah. 

1021
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,600
Yeah. 
Then he was when he was on BBC 

1022
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,700
TV, his stick was to remove his 
spectacles at the end of each 

1023
01:02:08,700 --> 01:02:13,800
bulletin every finish reading 
and he was one of six regular 

1024
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,000
announcers on BBC Radio. 
The others being El Valle Del we

1025
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,400
mentioned before, Douglas Smith 
now you know, Douglas Smith 

1026
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,000
Don't think so. 
He's the announcer on beyond our

1027
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,900
Ken and later around the horn. 
Oh, yes, yes. 

1028
01:02:27,900 --> 01:02:31,400
Well, I know his voice. 
Yeah, my dad was very much into 

1029
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,600
round the horn as well. 
Yeah, right. 

1030
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,900
Yeah, the others were robbing, 
homes, Alexander noise and 

1031
01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:38,500
colander. 
An okay? 

1032
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,800
And typically, I just the 
surprise, me typically 

1033
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,400
greenslade would complete his 
gun show responsibilities by 

1034
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:50,200
9:30 p.m. on Sundays and go 
straight from the Camden theater

1035
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:54,000
to broadcasting house to News 
bulletins, make continuity 

1036
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,000
announcements and often. 
He would work. 

1037
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,000
Six days on three days off and 
sometimes sleep at broadcasting 

1038
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,400
house. 
All right? 

1039
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,200
And as I said, his boss was as 
BBC, radio announcer was Johnson

1040
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,200
egg. 
He also was the announcer on a 

1041
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,200
show called The Great Gilhooley,
which is lost to the sands of 

1042
01:03:12,207 --> 01:03:13,400
time. 
Okay. 

1043
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,500
Yeah, Variety Playhouse and he'd
started working on the Today 

1044
01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:20,800
programme, when he actually died
because he died. 

1045
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,300
Officially he died a fitness 
Suddenly at his home in Surrey 

1046
01:03:24,700 --> 01:03:28,000
in April, 6th, April 61 age, 48 
which is mileage. 

1047
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,500
Now it's incredibly young. 
Tyler. 

1048
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:33,100
Yes. 
Thank you. 

1049
01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:36,900
Yes. 
And although Roger Lewis claims,

1050
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:38,900
he died in the pub toilet. 
The that? 

1051
01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:45,500
How is that fella? 
Oh dear and it was buried, there

1052
01:03:45,500 --> 01:03:48,700
was a funeral service, it's 
Mary's outlands their weybridge 

1053
01:03:48,900 --> 01:03:51,000
and he was buried at brooklands 
Lane Cemetery. 

1054
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:56,100
Rich and at the subsequent 
memorial service, John snag gave

1055
01:03:56,100 --> 01:04:02,500
an address, and I saw a front 
page of the evening Express, 

1056
01:04:02,500 --> 01:04:08,400
announcing his death from 1961 
from from that day in 1961 and 

1057
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,500
he gets he gets a column in the 
front page with a picture. 

1058
01:04:12,500 --> 01:04:17,200
Okay, but he's surrounded by 
some quite lurid headlines, 

1059
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:23,700
okay, no such as naked. 
ADI was under staircase, the 

1060
01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:32,400
Woody, three fishermen aghast 
and queen is 35 today, bit of a 

1061
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,200
mixed bag that day. 
Yes, you use wise, but I just 

1062
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,900
like to end this little sort of 
tribute to Wallace with this 

1063
01:04:40,900 --> 01:04:43,500
lovely little piece that I 
picked up, there was an article 

1064
01:04:43,500 --> 01:04:47,000
in the radio times in March, 
1958. 

1065
01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:51,900
And it says, It is not quite the
usual, sort of BBC announcement 

1066
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:56,300
yet the voice which makes it has
still that calm dignity that we 

1067
01:04:56,300 --> 01:05:00,800
expect our BBC announcer. 
This says the voice is the BBC 

1068
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:02,800
Home Service. 
It may not. 

1069
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,300
It may not be much but it's home
to me. 

1070
01:05:06,700 --> 01:05:09,500
Perhaps the voice is even a 
little more dignified than usual

1071
01:05:09,900 --> 01:05:12,500
as though its owner realizing 
that at any moment he may be a 

1072
01:05:12,508 --> 01:05:16,000
set by the unexpected is 
determined to uphold his proper 

1073
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,700
station come. 
What may he may be standing On 

1074
01:05:18,700 --> 01:05:21,800
The Fringe of lunacy but he is 
calm and the faith of his own 

1075
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,300
importance. 
Nothing. 

1076
01:05:23,300 --> 01:05:25,400
He seems to be saying to himself
must Shake him. 

1077
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,400
Let those undisciplined Sprites.
The goons do their worst. 

1078
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,400
He was greenslade, will be true 
to be be secret missions. 

1079
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,100
Yeah. 
Cuz you think this is going out,

1080
01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:41,300
you know, this sort of, they 
represent Britain in a way, 

1081
01:05:41,300 --> 01:05:44,100
don't they? 
This is the announcers there in 

1082
01:05:44,100 --> 01:05:48,100
people's homes and people have a
relationship with that person. 

1083
01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:52,500
And and this is going out all 
around the world you know in the

1084
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:55,500
home service. 
So this is this is a represent 

1085
01:05:55,500 --> 01:06:00,200
representation of the you know 
the stoic, you know, steady 

1086
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,800
Britain. 
Yes. 

1087
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,500
So people you know would have 
been a big deal when he passed 

1088
01:06:05,500 --> 01:06:10,600
away and a real shock as well. 
They must have been very shocked

1089
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,500
by all of that. 
The boys, the goons as well. 

1090
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,400
Yeah, dude, so there we go. 
So yeah. 

1091
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:22,300
So Jonathan thank you so much 
for joining me to be so 

1092
01:06:22,300 --> 01:06:26,200
enjoyable. 
You're welcome and it's always 

1093
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,300
nice to have something new on 
the show and someone with such 

1094
01:06:29,300 --> 01:06:31,200
enthusiasm and knowledge as 
well. 

1095
01:06:32,700 --> 01:06:35,300
Thank you very much Tyler, it's 
been really great. 

1096
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,800
I've really enjoyed it. 
I'm going to go and raid my 

1097
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,600
dad's record collection again 
and put a few goon episodes on 

1098
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,900
today. 
That's torture shop, let your 

1099
01:06:44,900 --> 01:06:45,600
Burke.