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Peter did ask me to marry him, 
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It's about a middle-aged man who
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life, you know, he teaches her 
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to play the piano and how to 
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Aren't you going to eat them? 
I don't like them. 

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How do you know that? 
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Free yourself be venturesome. 
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Hello and welcome to goon pod 
before we kick off and start 

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talking about the Peter Sellers 
film Hoffman, with my guest. 

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Patrick strain, I just thought 
I'd share some feedback from 

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people on social media over the 
last few weeks, just some 

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selected, thoughts and opinions,
and brickbats, and bouquets not 

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so many brickbats. 
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episode that we recently did on 
Sykes with Lise and Andrew, 

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Roger Stevenson for my guests 
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He messaged, he said fascinating
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really ever had a job in the 
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There was an episode where he 
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the conductress originally 
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but later, repeated as bus, Mike
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supporter of the show, Great 
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and Andrew. 
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are in the Was written by Johnny
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storylines for Series 2 and 3. 
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were written by Spike Milligan 
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tour message. 
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did you get any further with the
kbh mystery to which and release

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replied your guess is as good as
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saying, with my work hat on I 
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codes. 
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prisons, but drew a blank. 
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Kingston Bridge house. 
It's bugging me now, Ian page 

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message me, nothing to do with 
the psychic episode. 

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He just wanted to ask me if I 
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Adrian Edmondson. 
To get them on the show. 

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Because in the ready for show 
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interviewed a Deadman's, sun', 
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Eight talked about learning the 
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Goon show scripts book 
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And the answer to that as I 
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As. 
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and so far no dice, but okay, 
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every week, maybe once every 
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So that is just some of the 
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received recently. 
I met do this, Regularly just if

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time permits I may share some 
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responding on Twitter and on 
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like, what you don't like. 
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So without further Ado, my guest
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Patrick strain and Patrick is 
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and he and I And I got together 
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underrated, I would say, Peter 
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Patrick, and I talked quite a 
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you know, you could almost sell 
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That Peter Sellers never wanted 
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that time. 
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that Peter Sellers probably 
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But, you know, this is the one 
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- From the producers. 
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are one is that you want to buy 
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never be seen. 
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he may have wanted to buy it 
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redo the movie. 
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Well. 
That would be it. 

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That would be a disaster. 

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quite young, you sort of you see
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Frenchman, the falls down all 
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it's again, it's based on a play
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fierce you because you have this
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this standoff, where, you know, 
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other all their lives and Turns 
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such a cunning scene and what's 
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bill bill Travers, that's right.
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I again, that's something I've 
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gone. 
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seek it out, but some point 
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Hey, postman's knock? 
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The husband's not. 
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So let's talk about Hoffman's. 
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Studio canal, and this must have
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it's such a old inclusion in 
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to porridge brilliant film and 
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credible movie. 
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Director Alvin Rockoff, keep 
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You couldn't do it now or days 
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So that was, that was my first 
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studio Canal box set, which I 
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Can I find it in Brighton, 
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and someone was selling it for 
50 Quid. 

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Nostalgia didn't he called me in
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Nah, well it's just been issued 
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Well, in the last what, 12 
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Yes, I've got that. 
What? 

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The indicator? 
Yes. 

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Indicator release. 
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With with notes, in the booklet 
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the booklet by John rain, former
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Yes. 
Yes. 

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And it has a husband called 
selected commentary by Alvin 

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rakoff, which I never seen 
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Where? 
It's not an entire directors 

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commentary, he just comment on a
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why it was it was just selected 
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It goes at a glacial Pace. 
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kind of consider, you know, 
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of tissues, turn the usually, 
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then they become a play. 
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nowadays, something's a film 
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a television play called. 
Call Me Daddy written by Ernest 

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Gambler, starring Judy Cornwell 
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keeping up appearances, she did.
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nice. 
Oh, you must be a good shopper. 

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That relies on anybody says By 
Appointment speak demanding lie 

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in the half strangulated 
Excellence of the indicia of the

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cloths. 
Afraid. 

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I could never do that. 
I learned. 

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Why shouldn't you why be a 
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eaten? 
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And Tom with fake gentility. 
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Twee little house with a Swedish
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If it weren't for the proceeds 
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sure, it's the only thing he's 
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Oh, it must be the onion. 
It's Tom, come along with Smith.

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Pull yourself together. 
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mind to creating order out of 
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Misfit set, the table, just for 
2 Tonight. 

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We Dine a, do she know? 
Alright, then set the table, 

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just for 2 Tonight. 
We Dine Chez Vous. 

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He's he plays it for Laughs 
Mikey. 

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It wasn't very sort of. 
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really get the Sinister. 
Donald Pleasence that you kind 

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of expect you don't get dr. 
Cribben. 

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You kind of get cul-de-sac 
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Let's just going to say it. 
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ski film. 
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Which is Bonkers, isn't it? 
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What kind of it seems to be sort
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Comedy styling? 
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actors that generation iPhone 
Stewart. 

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Granger used to do the see him. 
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you just spent tended to speak 
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them trying to emulate, Cary 
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But of course, at a natural sort
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actors did, but not so much, 
pension for comedy. 

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So yes, one I know is it started
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was also directed by Alvin 
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and won a couple. 
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And then it was decided to make 
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So, I think, Alvin Rockoff 
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the play all over again with 
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couple of weeks filming naked. 
Very low budget. 

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Yeah, but then the producer 
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a star named for. 
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Then you're imagining so that 
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equation because Bryan Forbes. 
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Who is head of associated, 
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history going back. 
There were friends and oh, yeah,

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well Gary tried to, I tried to 
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I thought if it was swapping by 
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take Brian, I've got one of 
those are her two stories. 

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I think one was again, I might 
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Margaret. 
Lord Snowdon. 

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But that's again, a lot of these
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I think you're correct color. 
I think he did. 

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Just want to take the next 
Newman. 

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I know both of the story is that
he went to Bryan Forbes one day.

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I think it was when there was it
around the time of wrong, arm of

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the law may be. 
Some yeah, would have been. 

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and he were good friends, and 
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Nanette Newman who was, who was 
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Sellers and sellers went up to 
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something along the lines of the
net and I are deeply in love. 

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And you know, I just felt you 
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course, there was, there was 
absolutely no truth in that 

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again, Bryan Forbes is just 
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character himself, you know, he 
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appearing in the least bit for 
me, he'd be quite well known for

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the sun in An Inspector Calls. 
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graduates into being a writer 
during the league of gentlemen. 

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And then graduates into being a 
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Stepford Wives, hmm But yeah 
booty again if we're coming 

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back. 
Hoffman at this period. 

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He's now become almost that 
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associate. 
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tail end of the 60s. 
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understand, this was his 
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kind of see if the British film 
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Because though, Again by this 
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disappearing and the idea at the
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conveyor belt of films. 
I think they're known as the 

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Forbes 12 L've including the 
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See the man who hunted himself 
starting Roger Moore right. 

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Yep. 
So yeah. 

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So again again oh what was the 
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One of those? 
Yes, rare weeks old was one of 

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them dropped by Lionel Jeffries 
him film. 

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Yeah, Tales of Beatrix Potter is
in there as well and raging Moon

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which folds the Forbes directed 
himself. 

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So yeah, it was this last, it 
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last-ditch attempt to basically 
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industry. 
When at this time of starting to

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flag, merely because the 
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money likes. 
I guess that's partly why. 

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The 70s is the British film 
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looking back as being this just 
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really low budget, kind of news 
and really isn't it, which I 

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think is unfair, there's some 
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Well, there's some crap, you 
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Yes, the go-between Women love 
the devil's, the others amazing,

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British movies being made around
this time, but again it's the 

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same time, you know, 1971 your 
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buses. 
Yes, indeed I know it was it a 

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Adventures of a taxi driver 
makes more money than Taxi 

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Driver? 
The UK peasant. 

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That's wonderful. 
I really remember that God 

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wasn't Robert Lindsay and that 
or yes yes yes yes he's in the 

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first one. 
Yes, I guess he is, and I think 

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a lot lately page appears in one
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denied, she was in it for years 
and years, so, okay, so so Bryan

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Forbes. 
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suggested sellers for this film.
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that was the case, but I've 
never seen Brian for as in 

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separate and for spreading 
sellers forward for it. 

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But again, they would have had a
previous relationship. 

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So, that would have certainly 
helped sellers paycheck. 

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I said gone down by this point, 
I mean, from a million dollars, 

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you could get them for 300,000 
times 9. 

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Yeah. 
Okay as everyone knows now in 

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early 69 sellers was filming the
magic Christian. 

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Mmm. 
So I'm not quite sure I'm 

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guessing this. 
I didn't actually check but I'm 

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assuming that this was the next 
film, I think that's correct. 

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Yes, yeah, and it's quite it's, 
it's, it's an odd choice for 

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sellers to Jamie. 
Sellers had a history. 

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Had a history of choosing. 
It is the very odd. 

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It's a very odd choice, but 
then, as open Rocco says, he 

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doesn't think sellers, really 
read the script, right? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
I got it in one of the 

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interviews he kind of points 
out. 

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That album rock is like Canadian
director, you know, starts off 

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in British television. 
You know directed, the original 

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Call Me Daddy, also did Requiem 
for a heavyweight. 

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The UK version was Sean Connery.
Yeah, I've seen the American 

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Connery. 
I've seen the American original 

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of that, the TV, Oh yes, Jack 
Jack Palance yeah, yeah. 

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I'd love to see the shortcut 
because Michael Caine's in as 

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well, isn't he? 
Yeah, Michael Caine's in is well

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and what forgotten her knee and 
but Barbara from dr. 

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Who won the first companions? 
Who was married to 0 Jaclyn 

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Hill. 
Yes! 

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Jaclyn Hill. 
Yeah, she's in there as well. 

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Yeah, wreck of says, on the 
directors, commentary on the, on

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the Blu-ray that, but after it 
initial hostility from sellers, 

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towards wreck off, they see me 
firm friends. 

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And sellers met his family and 
spent time with his family and 

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seem to get on very well with 
Jacqueline, so, mmm, until until

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he saw the film. 
And then apparently cut off all 

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time. 
Yeah, I'm trying to get him 

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fired from the film. 
By I think it's apparently they 

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I was album, Rock off and the 
producer been our beds were 

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heading to a meeting with 
sellers but it then turned out 

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Ernest Gambler got to the 
meeting, half an hour before. 

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For and was convincing sellers 
that rack of didn't know what he

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was doing and he should hire 
Gibbler to direct the film 

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himself. 
Hmm. 

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I mean, the thing is, right? 
I like the way because wreck off

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says that he based there was, 
like a standoff, wasn't there. 

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Mmm. 
And and rakoff had the upper 

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hand, and essentially was able 
to banish Gibbler from the set 

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permanently. 
As a result of what he saw is a 

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backstabbing really, he's bows. 
I mean giblet. 

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I love the fact, so he wrote 
the, the tally play called me 

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Daddy. 
He wrote the Italian play. 

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Wrote, the screenplay for this. 
Yeah. 

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But he also wrote a novel, 
didn't he? 

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He did. 
He wrote, he wrote a novel, but 

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he gave it a different title. 
Mmm, my little is, can I eat? 

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You know. 
Yeah, it's And then and then 

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again again it's one of these 
things is a project that you 

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never seem to let go of because 
then he staged it in Dublin 

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twice under the original title. 
Call me Daddy. 

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Yeah. 
And it's not, it's an 

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interesting. 
I mean, I enjoyed the film, I do

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enjoy the film. 
It's never going to be in my top

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ten or even top 20, but I don't 
know, but it's curiosity piqued,

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my curiosity place, but it's a 
slight film, it's done, it's 

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not. 
I'm going to go through it 

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obviously, but it's not. 
He Am too. 

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I suppose, I suppose owners 
giblet. 

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This was the, the most success 
he had in his career. 

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Did, he was this the the one 
project that was most successful

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for him? 
Oh yeah, many ways I think. 

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So again, Ernest Gambler, 
interesting, character, I 

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actually spoke to his son, a 
couple of years ago. 

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Carlos Gambler Who provided me 
with the original script for the

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stage version took place in 
Dublin. 

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Hmm, and interestingly, when we 
were just chatting on the phone,

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One of the few times we did. 
He did say that Peter Sellers 

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had turned to his father and 
said, oh, by the way, I'm 

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playing you. 
I'm playing you in this film the

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K. 
I'd be insulted by that. 

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Yeah, so I think it says a lot 
of bonus kept. 

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Yeah. 
Okay, so yeah, it seems to be 

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the main thing. 
He again, the other thing on the

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schedule, be known for what he 
is. 

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The ex-husband of Edna O'Brien. 
Now, the Irish writer really 

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Yes, you that? 
Which it is. 

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So, Carlos is the son of and 
Ernest. 

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Yeah. 
Okay. 

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Okay. 
Alright. 

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And you said before yeah rack 
off. 

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Repeatedly says, you know, 
political correct. 

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It was Politically Incorrect 
this. 

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Yeah, he says he says that you 
couldn't make it. 

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Yeah, you couldn't make it today
now. 

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I don't know. 
I think you probably could make 

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it today. 
It just might be very dark would

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be. 
It would be. 

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It would be Extremely dark. 
And again, if you know I've got,

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I've got the copy the script and
I've kind of always sort of 

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played a round of it. 
You know, turned yet again, you 

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could restage it, changing 
gender. 

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And so forth, or even sort of 
adding a roleplay element to it,

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00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:41,100
in terms of the characters 
because it's is just a 

448
00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:45,100
fascinating story. 
And again, when you kind of look

449
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:48,600
at it, there are so many 
interpretations of it. 

450
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:52,600
We have you ever read? 
And I'm assuming you most likely

451
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,500
have at the life and death of 
Peter Sellers by Roger Lewis. 

452
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,700
Absolutely. 
Yeah. 

453
00:25:56,900 --> 00:26:00,600
Well, which by the way, which by
the way the the, you know, the 

454
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,400
very striking front cover. 
Yes. 

455
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,800
Yes. 
On the on the paperback. 

456
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,600
Yeah. 
With with him looking quite 

457
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,500
drawn and yeah, you're drawn out
and forlorn and he's like it. 

458
00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:16,300
Yeah, that photo was taken 
during the filming of Hoffman. 

459
00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:18,000
Yeah it is. 
I think he's got the strategies,

460
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,100
got the script in his hand. 
If I The full. 

461
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:24,000
And I'm not sure if that you see
that on the book cover but I 

462
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,300
think the full image. 
Yeah. 

463
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,000
Is him with scripting hands? 
Yeah. 

464
00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,600
Because you quite rightly said 
looking very full lawn and 

465
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:36,600
deflate you were afraid to go 
with me because of my Maniac 

466
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,100
face. 
Yes, yes, girls, all over the 

467
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:46,100
world are afraid of men. 
Is my expression expression. 

468
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:51,800
Praying sad-faced men. 
You look at us all of you and 

469
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,400
you're right. 
Every Miss Smith everywhere. 

470
00:26:56,500 --> 00:27:00,800
Swarms of mature sexually Stars 
men? 

471
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:13,000
With their thoughts. 
Breast bottoms and thighs in 

472
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:23,000
offices buses and Trends, man. 
You've missed the boat but you 

473
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,700
still need love. 
Well, Miss Smith. 

474
00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:35,900
Their day is coming. 
A revolution is almost upon you.

475
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:39,800
Just you. 
Wait just you wait. 

476
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,400
Hope never dies in a man, the 
good dirty mind. 

477
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,200
So I had seen Hoffman 30 years 
ago. 

478
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,700
It was on TV, a taped it and I 
want must have watched it. 

479
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:56,500
The once, maybe twice, and 
pretty much erased it from my 

480
00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:59,400
mind, subsequently. 
And then the Blu-ray came out 

481
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,200
last year and I bought it, and I
watched it and it's pretty much 

482
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,400
a to hand. 
It really that this there's four

483
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,600
people in the In the, you know, 
credited, the beginning for 

484
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,000
actors but really, there's only 
two, isn't it? 

485
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,000
Yeah. 
It's only Sinéad Cusack and 

486
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,100
Peter Sellers. 
Yeah. 

487
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:19,500
It is very much, I guess 
interesting. 

488
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:21,500
It is very much like a play the 
game. 

489
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:25,600
It's very much like a television
play, which is interesting since

490
00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:29,200
Alvin rakoff. 
Just prior to Hoffman, I got 

491
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,700
fired from the anniversary with 
Betty dear bus because he was 

492
00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:38,500
directing it like a TV play. 
He was like, putting markers 

493
00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:40,500
down on the sets and she was 
like, no, no, no. 

494
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:43,100
This is not high. 
There's not how film actors 

495
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,300
perform as we got fired from a 
film and replaced by Roy, Ward 

496
00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:50,000
Baker. 
So it's interesting that sort of

497
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,500
beef being fired from a project 
just prior to Hoffman for you 

498
00:28:54,508 --> 00:28:57,700
know staging it far too much 
like a player television play. 

499
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,400
And then the next project is 
this film that, you know, is 

500
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,500
very much like a play. 
Yeah, hmm. 

501
00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:07,000
You think of I really do enjoy 
films that are adaptations. 

502
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,300
Is of plays and which retain 
that staging us about them and 

503
00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:14,400
I'm thinking specifically, and 
of course, it was a TV playing 

504
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,400
itself. 12 Angry Men, the film 
version of 12. 

505
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,900
Yes, yes, I love that film as 
one of my all-time favorites, 

506
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,200
the Rope the Hitchcock film 
which yes, which was a play. 

507
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,100
And that's pretty much one room.
And of course, the conceit of 

508
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,100
rope is that it's all done in 
one long, continuous, take, 

509
00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:34,000
which it isn't, but it but it 
gives the, it gives the 

510
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,600
impression or tries to give. 
Oh yeah, just goes, goes past 

511
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,500
the door. 
It cuts and so for again you 

512
00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:41,600
only get a bite I think is 10 
minutes at little 10 minutes. 

513
00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:45,900
But there's a, there's a 
particular scene in this film 

514
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,900
which is a really long single 
take. 

515
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,100
Mmm, which I thought was really 
interesting. 

516
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:56,300
But before we go into that, for 
anyone who hasn't watched this 

517
00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:58,300
film, which I guess is probably 
most people listen to this. 

518
00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:03,100
How would you could you 
summarize it without spoilers 

519
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:08,000
in, you know, a pithy two or 
three sentences do And if these 

520
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,400
two or three sentences, a 
businessman block Meals, one of 

521
00:30:12,408 --> 00:30:15,000
the secretaries that is offers 
to spend the weekend with him 

522
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:19,800
before she gets married. 
It's about it really mean that 

523
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,100
mean that, that is it I mean, 
it's a two-hour film. 

524
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:27,200
But in reality in terms of a 
blurb that is that that is, that

525
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,000
is a, you know, he's just a 
weekend with your boss. 

526
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,400
Yeah, so I wasn't, I wasn't 
sure. 

527
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:39,500
I got the impression and it's 
this film reminded Ami in part 

528
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:44,500
if you ever seen The Collector 
the yes, Terrence downturn stem.

529
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,700
It partly reminded me of that 
film you know where Terence 

530
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:52,400
Stamp is this nonentity that 
works. 

531
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,500
He's kind of is even is even 
middle management in this office

532
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,200
and everyone? 
Yeah, no one really kills him 

533
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,700
and makes fun of him. 
And he's he's got no real 

534
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:04,400
personality and he looks 
miserable and then he wins the 

535
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:10,200
pools and he comes into my And 
he essentially what he does 

536
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,900
kidnap this woman that he's 
taken a fancy to and holds her 

537
00:31:13,900 --> 00:31:17,300
in a an old country house out in
the sticks. 

538
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:22,100
Mmm. 
And this film reminded me of 

539
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:25,100
that you have this man who seems
to have Limitless wealth. 

540
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:26,600
I don't know where the wealth 
has come from. 

541
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,800
Yeah, yeah. 
And he and I my impression was 

542
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,800
that he wasn't necessarily the 
boss of the firm that he was 

543
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,700
more middle management. 
But I guess he's actually the 

544
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:43,100
boss of. 
Yeah, I guess Smith who's played

545
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:46,000
by Sheikh. 
He's probably not the boss of 

546
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,800
the company but he's on. 
These are ahead of her in the 

547
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,200
company. 
Yeah, yeah. 

548
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,400
So where's the money come from 
again? 

549
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,600
I you guys you said like, who 
knows? 

550
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,600
Again, the end up at Harrods of 
one point. 

551
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:02,200
Hmm, I suppose it doesn't 
matter. 

552
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,500
It's just, it's just not 
bothered me, but I kept thinking

553
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:09,200
he's got his He's a man of 
independent means here. 

554
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,900
He's got a nice flat. 
Yeah I guess it's kind of I 

555
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:16,000
think that's sort of the old 
film and television trobe you 

556
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,400
know, you watch friends. 
And you kind of wonder how 

557
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,300
Monica Monica and Rachel can 
afford the apartment in New 

558
00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:23,500
York. 
Yeah, true true. 

559
00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:26,800
True. 
Should a Cusack is brilliant in 

560
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,700
this. 
She's absolutely astonishing in 

561
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:36,900
this and she's absolutely. 
I totally buy her perilous. 

562
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,500
Situation and her, you know, 
she's racked with anxiety, which

563
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:48,100
then turns to hatred, I guess. 
And then, um, and then contempt 

564
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:52,700
and then, well, we'll get to 
that, but but she's absolutely 

565
00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:55,400
perfect for this role. 
And I think, yeah, one of her 

566
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,100
first, I think may have been her
first film role, or one of her 

567
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:00,900
first film rules. 
Yeah. 

568
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,500
Yeah, the film begins. 
She's we see it being seen off 

569
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,500
at the train station by Because 
you presume it's her boyfriend 

570
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:13,800
or fiancé. 
Yeah, well fiance made by Jeremy

571
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,500
Bulloch, who people may know his
ball defense. 

572
00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:22,400
Well, I don't I've heard the 
name that's about it. 

573
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,100
I'm a complete Star Wars. 
Ignoramus God. 

574
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,500
Jeremy Bulloch is the actor who 
plays for perfect in. 

575
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:33,700
Install was filmed here and the 
original original Star Wars 

576
00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:35,500
groans. 
Yeah, you see if you'd asked me 

577
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,100
if you'd show me a picture of 
him, or I'd seen, you know, 

578
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:40,600
because I'm watching it and I 
said, oh, I recognize him. 

579
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,400
I know where I know him from 
he's, um, he's from the sitcom 

580
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:50,300
Agony, the latest. 
Which, which was his role in 

581
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:52,300
agony was groundbreaking. 
Actually, I don't know if you 

582
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:55,000
remember Agony or you ever heard
of Agony because Maureen? 

583
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,100
I've heard never seen a Canadian
Maureen. 

584
00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:00,100
Lipman sitcom, which I really 
enjoyed when I was a kid. 

585
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:02,700
Well, there was a little bit 
adult, really think he back as I

586
00:34:02,708 --> 00:34:04,500
have seen. 
It's an episode of IT 

587
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:08,300
subsequently, but it was 
groundbreaking in that it 

588
00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:15,300
featured, two gay characters, 
who were who were together and 

589
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:18,300
they were just normal. 
They were not, they were not 

590
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:21,600
caricatures, they were not dare,
I say screaming queens or 

591
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,199
anything like that. 
It was, they were, you know, 

592
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,600
they were plate, played very 
sympathetically and it is, it 

593
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,199
was seen as being quite 
revolutionary I suppose. 

594
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:33,300
It does a British that guns for 
that for that sort of portrayal 

595
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:37,900
and he was one of the two and 
and also and also he turns up 

596
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:42,600
in, what am I again? 
Film I absolutely love, I'm sure

597
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:49,400
you've seen it lucky man. 
Oh yeah I know I've seen if 

598
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:51,900
return your hospital but I've 
never caught a lucky man. 

599
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:56,300
All right okay he turns up and 
no lucky man in a very 

600
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,400
memorable. 
Seen, I think, I think I've seen

601
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,500
the scene in question, which I 
just don't want to spoil the 

602
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:08,500
fun. 
Anyway, we're moving up, but we 

603
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:10,600
see, we see Jeremy Bulloch at 
the train station. 

604
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,400
Seeing of his fiancee Janet 
played by Sinead O'Connor said, 

605
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:25,100
a clean slate and we don't see 
him again for another nearly 

606
00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:25,900
nearly. 
Yeah. 

607
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:32,900
Climax. 
Yeah, she's happy to know, he 

608
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:35,300
gives her a kiss and she looks 
She's big smile and she gets on 

609
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:36,800
the training. 
We can see a through the train 

610
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,300
window and she's looking, she's 
looking very uneasy and then 

611
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:45,000
she's sort of gets off the other
side of the train. 

612
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,200
And hmm, if you watch that 
movie, you weren't told anything

613
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,100
before. 
And that just that little 

614
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:54,200
opening sequence with Jeremy 
Bulloch and Sinéad Cusack. 

615
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:57,300
You would never know where was 
going to lead. 

616
00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:01,100
You know it's just too too young
people going to the train 

617
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,500
station and then you just have 
that little bit ago. 

618
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:08,500
Just shows you how great you may
choose acts performance is you 

619
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:12,000
know, no words. 
There is just that switch and in

620
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,600
that moment, you go. 
Oh, something interesting is 

621
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,600
going to happen here. 
Yeah. 

622
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,700
So she leaves the station. 
Gets a cab and we have the 

623
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:26,600
opening credits and she arrives 
at this very nice-looking 

624
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,900
apartment building Suppose 
that's and mmmm. 

625
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:34,400
She goes up. 
The are the, the lift and gets 

626
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,200
to a certain door Rings, the 
bowel. 

627
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:43,000
And the door is opened by a very
vaguely drunk, looking Peter 

628
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,400
Sellers, very pale looking Peter
salivary. 

629
00:36:46,200 --> 00:37:01,500
Yeah. 
come in, Miss And he invites her

630
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:06,100
in and she's very anxious and 
fearful and she asked to go to 

631
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:09,500
the bathroom. 
Yeah, even that opening. 

632
00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:15,500
Its so the door opens, he stands
there, he inhales there's this, 

633
00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:20,400
there's this breath, he takes 
before he says come in Miss 

634
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,800
Smith. 
Just that just that little 

635
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,100
moment is just again, what are 
we, what are we about? 

636
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:29,700
Walk into you? 
Can you try and think? 

637
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,100
Okay, this character. 
What's he been doing? 

638
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:36,700
In the sort of, our leading up, 
bringing on the doorbell? 

639
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,500
You obviously, because we see 
later in the film. 

640
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:42,300
What he's waiting for the 
doorbell to ring, he's probably 

641
00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:45,900
pacing. 
You had a flat in himself, he's 

642
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:50,600
probably extremely nervous. 
Mmm doubting himself. 

643
00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:54,500
And I think the characters fair 
to say is full of self-loathing 

644
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:57,000
anyway. 
So yeah, you can't imagine the 

645
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,500
things that have been going on 
in his head while he's been 

646
00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:00,700
wearing it earlier. 
Drive. 

647
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:03,600
Now, loving and a fantasist as 
well. 

648
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:07,700
I mean, in many ways, you know, 
how does he think this weekend 

649
00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:12,900
is really going to go? 
Yeah, but we find out later, not

650
00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:16,900
really spoiling it. 
But we find out that he has 

651
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:25,900
blackmailed Janet Smith to spend
a week with him at his flat and 

652
00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:28,800
in exchange, he will not tell 
the police that her boyfriend 

653
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:34,500
has been Running a sort of 
Racket to do with cigarettes and

654
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:36,600
Denis that because that's 
because the company they work 

655
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,200
for, presumably produces 
cigarettes. 

656
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,800
And and the trucks, that 
transport the cigarettes, the 

657
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,500
boyfriend of Janet Smith who 
also works at the firm has been 

658
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:54,200
selling the roots and the times 
for these trucks, two thieves, 

659
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:58,900
who have then been stealing 
these Consignments and he's 

660
00:38:58,900 --> 00:39:02,400
being receiving a commission. 
Somehow have you somehow or 

661
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,200
other Hoffman has become wise to
this mmm and using this kind of 

662
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,000
wonder how long he's known this 
information for and just kind of

663
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,000
let the game play out for his 
Advantage. 

664
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,800
Exactly. 
You wonder that? 

665
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,400
Don't you, but off the back of 
all that we don't know this at 

666
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,100
the beginning of the film, of 
course, all we know is that 

667
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:23,200
there's that she does not want 
to be there, but Jeanne, she is 

668
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,800
compelled by some, for some 
reason, to be there. 

669
00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:29,500
She's obviously, trying she 
knows that at some point or she 

670
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:33,200
She very strongly suspect that 
at some point soon. 

671
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,300
She's going to be obliged or 
he's going to try have his 

672
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:43,800
Wicked way and she's trying to 
obviously Delay that mmm that 

673
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,000
moment so she says that she's 
got a headache and she asks if 

674
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,400
he's got any aspirin, he goes 
into the kitchen and he's doing 

675
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,000
this weird thing where he's 
you've got the what do you call 

676
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,800
it? 
The the little little shutters 

677
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,500
in between serving hatch in the 
kitchen. 

678
00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:00,000
I was serving hatch. 
That's it. 

679
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,400
Yeah and and when he's in Vision
because she's in the living 

680
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,600
room, she can see him when he 
passes the serving hatch in the 

681
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:13,500
kitchen, he tries to sort of 
remain quite Cool and aloof, but

682
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:16,500
you never, he's out of vision. 
He sort of running around in an 

683
00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:23,200
almost like in a panic. 
Yeah, I got a little bit of, you

684
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,100
know, bit of comic business 
going on in the, in, in this, in

685
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:31,800
this scene. 
And yeah, again just being very 

686
00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:35,200
reserved and then the moment he 
can't see, he's just a dashing 

687
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,800
around looking for this aspirin,
which he throws into into the 

688
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,300
tea. 
And then you have this sort of 

689
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:44,300
little funny bit of dialogue 
about the aspirins out of date 

690
00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:48,300
or not, those who desperately 
Yes. 

691
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:56,800
Yes, they may taste funny, hmm. 
You keep staring at me because 

692
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,900
now I can stare at you. 
I can even touch you only 

693
00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:06,300
because you're forcing me. 
This with our agreement says 

694
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:10,300
that you are supposed to look 
happy and willing p. 

695
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,000
Supposed to be getting married 
in three weeks time. 

696
00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:17,800
Suddenly I'm here forced to do 
this. 

697
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,600
Why don't you take your shoes 
off and feel comfortable? 

698
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,600
Nice, hate fizzy talk. 
You said that you treat me with 

699
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,400
respect. 
Nothing, filthy about shoes. 

700
00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:42,700
And I do have full useless. 
Oh, cringing. 

701
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:48,200
And again it's sort of the way 
he delivers again is interest. 

702
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,500
You rakoff kind of makes this 
point where he said, you know, I

703
00:41:50,508 --> 00:41:53,800
had Donald Pleasence in the TV 
playing, who's known as, as we 

704
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,000
said, previously a serious 
straight actor known for 

705
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,200
building these parts but when he
played the role he played in 

706
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,500
rather comical and then your 
Peter Sellers who you know up at

707
00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:06,200
this point you know very well 
known comic actor and this point

708
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,500
is career sellers was mourned 
I'm I would say when you've got 

709
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:13,000
movies like After the forks and 
what's new pussycat? 

710
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,300
Yeah, it was kind of maybe a bit
more known for slightly more 

711
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:20,600
over-the-top performances. 
Yeah, yeah, and then you have 

712
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,400
this, which is a very straight, 
very subdued. 

713
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,600
You've got little bits of comic 
business going on but even they 

714
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,800
feel very subdued. 
Well, his voice is just really 

715
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,600
an extension of his his actual 
speaking voice. 

716
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:36,500
So he's was there isn't really 
our we used to in Casino Royale.

717
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,600
Yeah, that's right. 
Yeah. 

718
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:43,100
As He has, you know, he liked to
put a put on voices so that he 

719
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:46,600
could kind of disappear. 
Well, originally rack rack off 

720
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,600
said, I think that if it really 
wants to play Hoffman with a 

721
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:58,800
German or Austrian accent, jeez,
it says in the contract or meant

722
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,700
to be willing, you can imagine 
it with it with it, with the 

723
00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:05,500
Strangelove glasses on. 
Not like you want to be 

724
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:09,500
fertilized. 
So parallel. 

725
00:43:09,500 --> 00:43:11,100
Yeah. 
So apparently Let's date comes 

726
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:15,700
to the come to the table with 
some form of Teutonic, German 

727
00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:19,700
accent. 
Richie was dissuaded from from 

728
00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:22,100
doing. 
I mean, it might have been a 

729
00:43:22,107 --> 00:43:24,300
better film. 
It's not a bad film as it is, 

730
00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:25,800
but it might have been even 
better with that. 

731
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,600
I don't know, maybe that's the 
Virgin who's going to make 

732
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:34,100
after. 
They think she cheated one 

733
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:38,400
point, she sort of manages to. 
Well, she decides that she's 

734
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,400
just going to leg it from the 
from the flat at one point, and 

735
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,500
he calls after who basically 
just Says, you know you if you 

736
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:49,900
go out that door, you know, what
will happen and she yeah with a 

737
00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:54,500
with a heavy heart, she she 
makes her way back up to the 

738
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:59,500
flat and we get the scene in the
bedroom with this really long 

739
00:43:59,500 --> 00:44:02,900
take that I mentioned earlier. 
Mmm, and interesting. 

740
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:06,200
Watching it second time around 
when she sees this bed. 

741
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,400
And she says, is this the only 
bed and he says it's the only 

742
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,000
bed in use. 
Yes. 

743
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:17,000
And, and I thought about that, 
and of course, The only other 

744
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,400
bed she doesn't know about. 
Does she did the only other bed 

745
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,100
in the flat? 
She doesn't let this point know 

746
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:25,700
about, which is no, no, no. 
Yo, she finds that out later on,

747
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:28,400
in the film. 
That there is a, there is a mrs.

748
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,700
Hoffman, although Wars and mrs. 
Hoffman, yeah. 

749
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:33,500
That's intriguing that hole. 
Hmm, I got ya. 

750
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,100
Probably get onto that bit later
on but yeah, you're again the 

751
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:40,800
mysterious mrs. 
Hoffman, almost a bit like mrs. 

752
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,100
Mannering. 
Yes, she confirms to huh. 

753
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,300
I've been that she told Tom that
she was going to see her granny.

754
00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:50,900
Who'd had a full granny, granny 
and Scarborough scarf. 

755
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:54,000
Yeah. 
And parents are dead. 

756
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,800
So it was a grandmother water 
up. 

757
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,600
So that she's very close to her.
And she's told the girls with 

758
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,400
whom she shares a flat that she 
told them the same story. 

759
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:06,800
So he nobody knows that she's 
still in London and certainly 

760
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,600
they don't know that, she's at 
happens. 

761
00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:11,600
To me, that's another moment of 
why should a cue? 

762
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:17,100
Zach is so good in this film? 
Yeah, is that A realization that

763
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:21,200
she realizes that she said it 
out loud to expect basis because

764
00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:24,200
to make sure to tell him all. 
I've covered my tracks, don't 

765
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,800
worry, nobody knows I'm here. 
But then the moment when she 

766
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,700
says that line, that no one 
knows, I'm here. 

767
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,200
The look on her face is just. 
Yeah. 

768
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,200
Oh, and we are going to spoil 
this film. 

769
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:40,300
If you've never seen this film 
before, and you're watching up 

770
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:44,300
to this point, and from what 
you've seen so far, you could be

771
00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:48,300
forgiven for thinking Taking 
that Hoffman is a serial killer 

772
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:49,200
or a killer. 
Mmm. 

773
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,300
Oh he's all right. 
I mean, Roger Lewis, greedy 

774
00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:59,100
implies that he's a vampire in 
terms of that opening. 

775
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:02,100
I would kind of agree. 
There is this slight sort of, 

776
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:06,700
you know, slight Bela Lugosi 
Christopher Lee element of when 

777
00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:09,200
she enters you'll come in Miss 
Smith and all that. 

778
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,900
So yeah, sort of serial killer 
and then Roger Lewis is vampire 

779
00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:16,000
again, that sort of drained. 
Look as well. 

780
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:20,200
Yeah, he's always speaking in 
these epigrams which clearly he 

781
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,900
thinks a very clever. 
Yeah. 

782
00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:26,000
Yeah again as you said you know 
you've got the 80s and very 

783
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,300
quotable film some of the things
he says. 

784
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,500
Yeah some of them are funny and 
some of them sound like they 

785
00:46:33,500 --> 00:46:35,800
should be funny but they're not 
really it's not that you his 

786
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,000
cruel. 
It's not that youth is mine. 

787
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:46,600
This. it's just simply that 
youth is wasted on the young. 

788
00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:53,800
They have no idea how to use it.
If a woman's biological urges 

789
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,600
can make her wear her skirt up 
to her crutch, but can they not 

790
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,000
do beg, your pardon idiot? 
Girls standing around at bus 

791
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,400
stops. 
Freezing, thighs, bladder, 

792
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,000
trouble spinning World. 
Women are always hungry for 

793
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,900
something. 
Fallopian tubes with teeth. 

794
00:47:13,300 --> 00:47:14,400
Oh, no coward. 
He ain't. 

795
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:21,600
But, and she's surprised because
he's such a different man from 

796
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,300
the man, she knows from work, 
which is, which is interesting, 

797
00:47:25,300 --> 00:47:31,200
because she kind of describes 
that again, you get this 

798
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,900
impression than he is, just a 
bit of a bit of a, nobody in the

799
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:40,900
office, which is, which is what 
made me think of The Collector. 

800
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:42,800
Exactly. 
Yeah. 

801
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,900
It's just a bit of a nobody in 
the office. 

802
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,400
Yeah, which is kind of, a sort 
of wonder what she maybe thought

803
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,000
he was because he can't. 
He does kind of come across as 

804
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,300
the nobody in the office. 
Yeah, sort of blending. 

805
00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:58,500
Again, it's one of those 
performances that, you know, 

806
00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:01,700
almost sort of terms of his look
not in terms of his eye, but 

807
00:48:01,700 --> 00:48:03,200
does it look? 
You saw you blend into the 

808
00:48:03,207 --> 00:48:05,900
wallpaper? 
Well, he describes himself as 

809
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,500
being one of those planes 
sad-faced men. 

810
00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:18,500
Yeah. 
He says, yeah and then he says, 

811
00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:23,800
he made me laugh out loud 
because I mean, it's quite sad, 

812
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:29,600
but she hits upon about a 
possible motive as to as to why 

813
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,200
he's putting it through this 
hell. 

814
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:36,200
Okay, she thinks he wants to get
back at her for the time. 

815
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,700
You'll fall for the notes that 
are no. 

816
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,300
Yeah he wrote her a note. 
A year ago, inviting her to a 

817
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:44,800
play. 
And she told all the other girls

818
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,600
about it and he was humiliated 
and she says this to him, and he

819
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,000
shouted, something, he shouts 
something along the lines of 

820
00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:55,300
you're afraid to go out with me 
because of my Maniac face. 

821
00:48:55,700 --> 00:49:08,900
Yeah, that's the thing I wrote 
down as well because as winner 

822
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:12,100
in the bedroom and all this sort
of creepy things. 

823
00:49:12,300 --> 00:49:16,200
He's saying he's clearly a 
misogynist e and I wrote down 

824
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:21,200
and early insult or in cell, you
know, men that just can't get 

825
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,600
laid. 
I just yeah, I I saw him as a 

826
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,100
pioneer of that movement because
those YouTube should have been, 

827
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:29,700
this should have been the 
tagline for this show. 

828
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:39,800
Only inside. 
You go to the cinema to watch 

829
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,900
this film with Peter Sellers, as
in it, you're going to expect a 

830
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,500
And it's not a comedy. 
Yeah. 

831
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:50,500
When it does this little comedic
moments, little comedic moments.

832
00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:54,800
Yeah, but you'd be disappointed 
if you went, if it was someone 

833
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,800
out, if it was only that and 
actor in the leading role who 

834
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,000
was known for dramatic and he's 
a whole different ball game but 

835
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:06,400
yeah, I'm sure that's how you 
probably felt when you first saw

836
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,400
it. 
You'd probably expect. 

837
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,600
Yeah, it's big boffo laughs and 
it wasn't exactly what 

838
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,900
particularly when you've again 
with Fox started. 

839
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:16,300
You put it with what are these 
quite gentle 1950s British 

840
00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:18,400
property. 
Yes, yeah. 

841
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,600
And then you have this film 
which is the you know the dying 

842
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,500
Ember of 1910 Turing into the 
sort of Darker period of British

843
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:30,500
Cinema. 
Yeah, we get the same with it. 

844
00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:32,500
He takes her to a restaurant. 
Mmm. 

845
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,200
And she slept with fellows had 
the all the tablecloths changed 

846
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,900
because they were originally 
purple, purple here, and she 

847
00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:42,600
doesn't take to anything on the 
menu and this is where I He's a 

848
00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:44,300
this is I think this is an ad 
lib. 

849
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,500
He says maybe you prefer some 
boiled cat it or you don't it 

850
00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:51,600
has that great moment as well. 
When he says it says to her it's

851
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,400
all the details of the waiter. 
It is off. 

852
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,600
Yes. 
And then he says, they have Dave

853
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,300
snails in the menu and she pulls
a face. 

854
00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:01,400
And he says, I remember when my 
father first introduced me to 

855
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:06,700
snails mlo snails how are you? 
And understand how say we're 

856
00:51:06,700 --> 00:51:10,900
about to be eaten salute? 
You I'd love to think that cell 

857
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:14,100
is just improvised that but it's
probably in the script. 

858
00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:17,800
Yeah. 
Well actually I don't just as a 

859
00:51:17,808 --> 00:51:22,100
sideline, I think Sinéad Cusack 
and sellers started a 

860
00:51:22,107 --> 00:51:24,100
relationship while on this 
movie. 

861
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:26,500
Yes, he did. 
Apparently, there were about to 

862
00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:29,500
go out on a date and she was 
just the story. 

863
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:33,400
I was told, was that though they
were about to go out on a date. 

864
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,900
She was waiting whenever she was
waiting, and as she was waiting 

865
00:51:36,900 --> 00:51:40,200
for him, a helicopter appeared 
sand with sellers in it, and 

866
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,900
they flew off to Paris for the 
weekend. 

867
00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:49,200
No, other time. 
I think he was doing was quoting

868
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,600
Miranda. 
Miranda Quarry at the time. 

869
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,100
Yeah, yeah. 
How long was the Sinéad Cusack 

870
00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:57,900
sellers relationship? 
Do you know I am from? 

871
00:51:57,900 --> 00:52:00,500
I think it was just the film, 
right? 

872
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:05,000
Okay. 
We we get back to the flat and 

873
00:52:06,700 --> 00:52:09,200
when she's had too much coffee, 
she's a too much coffee. 

874
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:14,300
She said she's got heartburn. 
And he rather irritably goes and

875
00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:16,200
fetches. 
I think some milk and pours it 

876
00:52:16,207 --> 00:52:18,800
into a brandy. 
Yes. 

877
00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:22,900
He's got a Dictaphone, into 
which he's recording some night 

878
00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:26,000
thoughts, which had just 
misogynistic sort of stream of 

879
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:32,400
Consciousness and his end and 
then the, the sort of the rug 

880
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:37,200
being pulled, he gets into bed, 
she's in bed, she's absolutely 

881
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,600
bricking it. 
He sets the alarm for 6:00 a.m. 

882
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,800
The he's taken some sleeping 
pills and he says, when he 

883
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,400
awakes at 6 a.m. bright and 
early, she'll be sleeping, 

884
00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:52,000
sweet, lie beside him and then 
he'll be ready to go. 

885
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,000
I suppose that's the 
implication. 

886
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,700
He turns off the light and 
settles down to sleep. 

887
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,900
Yeah. 
And they're wide awake. 

888
00:52:59,300 --> 00:53:01,900
The way sellers does. 
That is I think for me it's 

889
00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:05,600
really common, right? 
Take that. 

890
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,300
And then even the way he sort of
like it goes to sleep, just kind

891
00:53:09,300 --> 00:53:12,700
of jumps jumps in the bed and 
just It goes over. 

892
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:15,100
Yeah. 
Again I think again I think that

893
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:17,000
must be another little bit of 
comic business. 

894
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,000
He's kind of thrown in there. 
Yeah, she gets up in the night 

895
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,300
because she can't sleep because 
of all this coffee and she puts 

896
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:29,000
her coat and clothes on and bear
a on and dude and she can't get 

897
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,500
out because the doors 
double-locked, he wakes up but 

898
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:35,400
he's not really awake and he's 
sort of Blair Ali says the name 

899
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,100
Barbara. 
Hmm. 

900
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,200
Goes for a way very very loud 
way. 

901
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:42,800
Okay yeah. 
Again, another little sort of 

902
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:52,400
comic me like I'm sleepwalking 
before I must have very good 

903
00:53:52,400 --> 00:54:05,500
aim. 
But you wonder who Barbara is 

904
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:10,100
and that further further Stokes 
your suspicions that maybe, you 

905
00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:12,900
know, he's killed someone. 
Yeah, he's done. 

906
00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:17,400
He's done this before. 
Yeah, she just decides to get 

907
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,600
into bed, fully clothed fully 
clothed and, and he wakes up the

908
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:26,200
next morning and is, he works 
out. 

909
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,300
What's happened, doesn't need 
the next morning and oh, yeah. 

910
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,900
And in what is the fact? 
Because if you have that, Run, 

911
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,000
that is the fantasy idea because
he wakes up. 

912
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,400
Well, when I wake up you, there 
you will be in my bed out, of 

913
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,900
course, turns around. 
And she's wearing her, she's 

914
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:44,100
wearing her white Mac and 
better. 

915
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:49,200
If they're ready, they go for a 
stroll in Richmond Park. 

916
00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:52,200
Yes. 
So we said I think it's a Friday

917
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,100
evening that she arrives in his 
flat. 

918
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,600
These are the next days Saturday
obviously. 

919
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,400
So do they do they go for a 
bracing? 

920
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,200
Walk along. 
What looks like an a road and 

921
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:06,200
then into Richmond Park. 
There's the windmill, and the 

922
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,700
feeding, the ducks, or the 
sellers is. 

923
00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:11,900
Quacking at the ducts which I 
think was a lovely little 

924
00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:15,700
little. 
Yeah, I mean, I kind of remember

925
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:18,600
where I've heard him do that 
before, but that that quack 

926
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,400
quack, the way he does it, I've 
heard and do that somewhere 

927
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,700
else. 
I can't remember where, but it's

928
00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:27,200
a very again, always find the 
sellers. 

929
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:31,100
There's always little noises 
that he makes that are very 

930
00:55:31,300 --> 00:55:37,000
similar in all his Bees like is 
that all sort of sound and it's 

931
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000
always amazed me. 
Regardless of the car again 

932
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:42,300
sellers was this could inhabit 
these characters but he always 

933
00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:45,700
had these little you always 
handle one or two Little Tex and

934
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:48,200
I always felt like that little 
moment was a little sellers. 

935
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,200
Take a satire cell has a 
seller's noise again. 

936
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,500
Yeah, radio performer. 
Yeah, you just had these little 

937
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:55,700
Tex and it's just that little 
moment. 

938
00:55:55,700 --> 00:55:57,500
I was it, the one moment the 
movie? 

939
00:55:57,500 --> 00:55:59,900
I go. 
That's a little sellers moment 

940
00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:02,400
that it's not a comic moment. 
It's a seller's noise. 

941
00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:04,700
Sighs. 
Absolutely been sellers appeared

942
00:56:04,700 --> 00:56:07,000
in some lousy movies and this 
isn't one of them, I'm not 

943
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,100
including use and but but he did
appear in some lousy movies. 

944
00:56:10,500 --> 00:56:14,700
But even in the lousiest movies,
even dare, I say Foo Manchu. 

945
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:18,900
He'll add something. 
Oh, yeah, something even Foo 

946
00:56:18,900 --> 00:56:21,500
Manchu. 
I think nayland Smith is kind of

947
00:56:21,500 --> 00:56:24,000
one of his one of his better 
performances. 

948
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,200
Yeah. 
It was an interesting, 

949
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,600
interesting performance. 
Again, it's a lot more subdued 

950
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,400
than you'd expect in the 
fiendish plot. 

951
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:38,700
Threw money at he. 
And, and Hoffman is, he's 

952
00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:42,400
obviously, you know, enjoying 
this, as I say, bracing stroll, 

953
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:48,200
through the park and Janet, is, 
is laggy behind because she 

954
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,400
skinned her heel. 
Hmm. 

955
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,500
And she's mutters because he 
just walks on. 

956
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:55,100
She mutters hanging would be too
good. 

957
00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:56,800
Are you might? 
He might he Marches On? 

958
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:01,200
Yeah, yeah, she says hanging 
would be too good for you. 

959
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,900
Yeah. 
So she started to get a bit, you

960
00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:07,300
know, she started to gain a bit 
of confidence, isn't she? 

961
00:57:07,900 --> 00:57:10,100
Hmm. 
Because At first she was just I 

962
00:57:10,100 --> 00:57:12,100
guess terrified. 
Yeah. 

963
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:18,100
And timid you get the impression
that she's you know in her 

964
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:21,400
natural habitat you be quite 
ballsy for want of a better 

965
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,000
phrase let me get credit. 
Hmm. 

966
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,400
And again you sort of get that 
with the background a we bet you

967
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,500
know you don't really get much 
detail about the parents but I'm

968
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:32,400
sure I'm assuming what again you
sort of do. 

969
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,300
They've not been a they've not 
been around for a while because 

970
00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:38,900
the grandmother is looks after 
that raised her. 

971
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,700
Yeah, I'll get Scarborough now 
she's looking after the 

972
00:57:41,700 --> 00:57:43,200
grandmother. 
Well, that's the story she 

973
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,100
gives. 
Yeah. 

974
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:47,700
So yeah, I think that that side 
is starting to come out. 

975
00:57:47,700 --> 00:57:49,500
They she's hasn't had an easy 
life. 

976
00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:52,300
So I think that starts to come 
out by this point. 

977
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:55,700
Yeah, well, she kind of gains 
her confidence against this. 

978
00:57:55,700 --> 00:58:02,400
This plane Maniac, man, shit. 
And then there's a little bit of

979
00:58:02,500 --> 00:58:05,300
of tenderness back at the flat 
when she actually allows him to 

980
00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:11,100
clean up the skinned ankle to me
to put liniment liniment or 

981
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:12,000
something. 
He puts on it. 

982
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,300
I'm not. 
Yes, yes. 

983
00:58:13,300 --> 00:58:17,000
Yeah. 
And then his finger Straight 

984
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,300
Ahead, though, they stray a 
little bit and you jerks a foot 

985
00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:23,300
back and falls asleep, because 
she's been awake all the 

986
00:58:23,300 --> 00:58:24,800
previous night. 
Yeah. 

987
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,100
And he sort of stairs a rather 
sadly and then puts it a bed. 

988
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,700
We've got this interesting 
scene, the next morning when he 

989
00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:36,900
still asleep and she wakes and 
does like a recce of the house 

990
00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:40,500
and she finds these women's 
slippers in a, in a closet. 

991
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:46,600
Yeah yeah and she sees the some 
books in the kitchen and she 

992
00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:50,500
starts reading them in one book.
There's an inscription on the 

993
00:58:50,508 --> 00:58:55,700
Flyleaf to Barbara and Hoffman 
and there's a diary as well, 

994
00:58:55,700 --> 00:58:58,200
which was rather careless I 
think of. 

995
00:58:58,300 --> 00:59:00,800
Yeah. 
Benjamin Hoffman to leave 

996
00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:04,700
evidence around. 
Yeah, and she's reading aloud 

997
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:06,800
from this diary obviously for 
our benefit. 

998
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:09,000
Mmm. 
And she reads to appear in high 

999
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,400
court, three weeks, hence, 
Monday morning 10:00. 

1000
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,400
And while she's reading out 
loud, Hoffman as awoken, and he 

1001
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,200
walks up to the door of the 
kitchen and sort of stairs are 

1002
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:24,700
as she's reading this diary And 
and she's reading this entries, 

1003
00:59:24,700 --> 00:59:27,800
which says how did she become a 
so short of time? 

1004
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,500
Such a vein, demanding, 
treacherous woman, she was old 

1005
00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:34,700
enough, it should have shown 
from the beginning, what blinded

1006
00:59:34,700 --> 00:59:38,200
us or am I several people to 
think that many a man hanged for

1007
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,500
such a wife, where was my 
judgment? 

1008
00:59:41,500 --> 00:59:45,700
And then Janet startled as 
husband walks in and disturbs 

1009
00:59:45,700 --> 00:59:50,400
her obviously. 
And, and she's quite, you know, 

1010
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,100
she's She's quite confident 
enough to sort of throw it him. 

1011
00:59:54,100 --> 00:59:55,900
You know, you never told me, you
were married. 

1012
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,700
And he brushes over there, he 
doesn't really want to talk 

1013
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:04,100
about that, does he? 
No, not again, I think that's 

1014
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:07,300
sort of, like, the last bit. 
We see of it, isn't it? 

1015
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:12,900
The mention of the wife as she 
said. 

1016
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:16,600
Yeah, it's yeah again. 
Yeah, I guess she could gain to.

1017
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,100
Yeah, they've read that bit 
gains are confident again. 

1018
01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:23,000
And again, it still doesn't 
answer any questions about where

1019
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,500
she's gone is, she is she 
living? 

1020
01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:27,300
Is she dead? 
Do you think? 

1021
01:00:27,300 --> 01:00:30,100
Yeah me do you think that Jenna 
at this point is really starting

1022
01:00:30,100 --> 01:00:32,700
to get worried that he could 
have murdered his wife. 

1023
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:38,600
Yes, I again I think maybe not 
Janet but I think the audience I

1024
01:00:38,607 --> 01:00:40,800
know, I know I certainly did but
I watched it. 

1025
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,400
Hmm. 
The first time around because it

1026
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,400
can, it is such a again, in 
terms of the music, in terms of 

1027
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,900
them, lighting is a very, very 
dark piece. 

1028
01:00:52,100 --> 01:00:55,000
So it wouldn't have surprised me
if that was something that would

1029
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,100
come up. 
He notices that she's wearing 

1030
01:00:58,100 --> 01:01:02,000
these slippers, he and his quite
angry about this, and he demands

1031
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,900
that she takes them off, and 
then he takes them and he gets a

1032
01:01:06,900 --> 01:01:10,500
kick. 
It goes across the whole to this

1033
01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:15,200
locked door fetches, a key. 
From the top of the door frame, 

1034
01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:19,800
opens it at a crack throws the 
slippers and locks the door and 

1035
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,000
replaces the key. 
And she's all the while she's 

1036
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:26,000
watched this, she's noticed this
and then he comes back into the 

1037
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,300
kitchen and Is Forgiven and he 
says, you can't win in this 

1038
01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:30,900
game. 
Miss Smith, you don't know the 

1039
01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:36,200
rules, let's have some breakfast
and he's the horror a bit which 

1040
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,300
is a nice way to start the day, 
isn't it? 

1041
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:44,400
Yeah, let's have some eggs. 
Yeah, preferably not fertilized.

1042
01:01:48,900 --> 01:01:51,100
We see them at Harrods like you 
mentioned before they say. 

1043
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:52,600
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1044
01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:56,200
I got a interesting story about 
the herod's. 

1045
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:01,400
Gently, after the finished 
finish filming in there, the 

1046
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:06,300
producer, been, our bed, was 
handed a bill because the studio

1047
01:02:06,300 --> 01:02:09,700
light are so hot that they 
basically went like the owner 

1048
01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:12,500
Harris went, this is Harrods. 
I can't sell this meat. 

1049
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,700
You've got to pay for it all, 
really? 

1050
01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:23,000
Yeah, yeah, but that would not 
have been much change out of the

1051
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,400
budget. 
Yeah. 

1052
01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:28,600
So apparently the crew. 
Got the pocket. 

1053
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,800
All this been all. 
They paid for it. 

1054
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,800
He was like, well I can't take 
it. 

1055
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,800
So he turned to the crew and 
they just took all their your 

1056
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,500
racks of lamb sausages, chickens
Broadmoor. 

1057
01:02:39,500 --> 01:02:41,600
Okay, got the eat well that 
night. 

1058
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,900
Yeah, God does a lot. 
This dressed whole pigs, isn't 

1059
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:46,600
there? 
There's some there's that shot 

1060
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:56,000
where Janet stood, under a huge 
rack of hanging and I'm glad you

1061
01:02:56,008 --> 01:03:08,500
mentioned that. 
Serial killer and she is just 

1062
01:03:08,500 --> 01:03:14,200
stood in front of these racks of
rats of them, fresh meat, fresh 

1063
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:15,100
meat. 
Yeah. 

1064
01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:22,700
Again it's just a moment of 
horror really going into Texas, 

1065
01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:30,300
Chainsaw Massacre home and he's 
Playing the piano and they seem 

1066
01:03:30,300 --> 01:03:33,900
almost for a moment. 
There seems to be this kind of 

1067
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,900
unspoken tenderness between them
yet. 

1068
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:41,100
They start they start to get 
along and this is a point where 

1069
01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:43,200
was it is. 
This is the way, he has that 

1070
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,400
little song. 
Once I knew a pretty girl, I 

1071
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,300
loved her as my wife but then I 
put my hands around her neck and

1072
01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:53,100
robbed her of her life. 
It's Rich its again. 

1073
01:03:53,500 --> 01:03:56,500
So yeah, another tick in the 
column for him being a promise. 

1074
01:03:56,700 --> 01:04:00,900
Idol Maniac. 
Yeah, if you didn't know better 

1075
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,800
you only start. 
They started having this 

1076
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,700
amicable domestic really 
domestic relationship. 

1077
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,200
I mean, there's nothing physical
by this point but they they just

1078
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,100
seem to be getting on getting 
along. 

1079
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,700
Yeah. 
And then we see the big bed 

1080
01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:19,300
again. 
Hmm. 

1081
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:24,500
He's reading the Sunday Times 
magazine and she's she's she's 

1082
01:04:24,500 --> 01:04:30,300
got constipation. 
Yeah, and she asks him if he's 

1083
01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:35,800
got anything to relieve it and 
he's again, he's irked and he 

1084
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:39,800
goes I guess I think I think 
this always comes back to the 

1085
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,900
fantasy element because, you 
know, he is clearly, this older,

1086
01:04:43,900 --> 01:04:47,800
man with this younger woman and 
I'm supposedly. 

1087
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:52,700
I think he's expecting more the 
constipation in the bedroom, but

1088
01:04:52,700 --> 01:04:56,000
then he doesn't really do 
anything to incite anything 

1089
01:04:56,500 --> 01:05:00,000
which Of course, will come up 
later on when she accuses to ask

1090
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,200
some, why? 
Why he's not doing anything 

1091
01:05:02,900 --> 01:05:06,000
well? 
I think, yeah, I think, looking 

1092
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,500
back at this film secretly, he's
pleased that there's all these 

1093
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:12,900
obstacles put in his way. 
Yeah, you wouldn't know what, 

1094
01:05:12,900 --> 01:05:14,300
you wouldn't know what to do. 
Yeah. 

1095
01:05:14,300 --> 01:05:17,700
And he's not, he's not done. 
He pretends, he pretends, he 

1096
01:05:17,700 --> 01:05:20,300
doesn't that. 
He pretends that he's annoyed. 

1097
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,900
Hmm, but secretly. 
He's happy, he's please, yes, 

1098
01:05:24,900 --> 01:05:27,000
you know. 
And again, I think it's Comes 

1099
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,600
back to the film's tired line as
well. 

1100
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:33,900
You know, hope never dies in a 
man who good dirty minds because

1101
01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:36,800
that's kind of what it is. 
It gives a talk EP so it's all 

1102
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,500
talk. 
There's very little action. 

1103
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,700
They can it. 
Well, it's the dog that chases 

1104
01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:43,000
the car. 
What happens when he catches? 

1105
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,100
Yeah, exactly. 
What he Hoffman has got what he 

1106
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:49,400
wants. 
It's his fantasies come true, 

1107
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,300
but this is the part of the 
fantasy where he has to take 

1108
01:05:52,300 --> 01:05:55,300
action and he, he doesn't. 
Yeah. 

1109
01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:00,400
She's really starting Need to 
gain some almost like a bit 

1110
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,900
little bit of dominance over him
in the sense that she loses a 

1111
01:06:04,900 --> 01:06:08,200
rag, because she says he's not 
doing anything. 

1112
01:06:08,300 --> 01:06:11,200
He's just going to sleep and 
snoring, and he refuses to 

1113
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,300
believe that he snores. 
All this. 

1114
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,200
There's the bit where he has 
that cramped like you do not. 

1115
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:29,100
Here's the cramp in his foot. 
We have to do is just a bit hot 

1116
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:31,600
and the ground beneath have a 
new question. 

1117
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:38,000
What is god? 
Well Lincoln he is stuck with 

1118
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,600
some. 
I'm guessing. 

1119
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:44,600
Yes people living underneath 
them but but again like even 

1120
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,300
that the flat the block of 
flats. 

1121
01:06:46,300 --> 01:06:52,000
You never see any sign of 
Anything that again it kind of 

1122
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,000
brings me back again. 
I gotta go back to Roger Deuces 

1123
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,600
idea this sort of Dracula 
vampire character because it 

1124
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:03,700
almost feels like that you have 
as you see as we're saying only,

1125
01:07:03,700 --> 01:07:06,100
The Barbers room that she's not 
allowed to go into. 

1126
01:07:06,500 --> 01:07:10,800
There's only like certain spaces
she's allowed in, and it's a wee

1127
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,200
bit. 
Like, you know, Harker going to 

1128
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:18,300
tracklist Castle usually allowed
in certain areas and it has that

1129
01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:20,400
feel to it. 
You know, she's not Allowed to 

1130
01:07:20,408 --> 01:07:23,400
go anywhere unless he said you 
can go there. 

1131
01:07:24,300 --> 01:07:27,400
Yeah, yeah. 
She wakes up the next morning 

1132
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,200
with a creek, she's quick to 
Nick because she slept awkwardly

1133
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:36,300
and and she allows him to rub 
some ointment on to it and she 

1134
01:07:36,300 --> 01:07:40,600
appears to almost enjoy it. 
And and he at one point his 

1135
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,200
hands almost moved. 
Like he's about was tempted to 

1136
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:47,700
strangle her. 
Yes, yes, she's seems very 

1137
01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:51,900
conflicted in terms of wish 
Cease all this leading to and 

1138
01:07:51,900 --> 01:07:55,000
she and then the liquid paraffin
that he's given a for a 

1139
01:07:55,000 --> 01:08:00,000
constipation, does its work and 
she has to exit the kitchen 

1140
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:00,800
quickly. 
Yeah. 

1141
01:08:01,900 --> 01:08:04,700
But you see that you see them. 
The next scene is them on this 

1142
01:08:04,700 --> 01:08:07,500
street in London and they're 
standing and walking along very 

1143
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:10,800
amiably together and they 
stopped outside a house, a large

1144
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:15,100
house under renovation, mmm, 
which he reveals is going to be 

1145
01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:18,800
his new flat. 
That's always a bit that clinic 

1146
01:08:19,300 --> 01:08:22,300
confuses. 
Meek's, I'm thinking I'm because

1147
01:08:22,300 --> 01:08:24,800
he talks about the flat but I 
was kind of wondering it was he 

1148
01:08:24,899 --> 01:08:27,000
buying the building converting 
them all into flats? 

1149
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,300
Or does he just dumps? 
Like, I think so. 

1150
01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:31,100
But again, where's the money 
come from, I know. 

1151
01:08:31,100 --> 01:08:39,200
Yeah, exactly. 
Where she walks around this 

1152
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:45,600
this, this room that's 
undergoing renovation you and 

1153
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,500
she sort of wanders around 
Imagining the decor that she 

1154
01:08:48,500 --> 01:08:51,899
would choose if it was her. 
Yeah. 

1155
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,100
Git starts up playing for 
wallpaper. 

1156
01:08:54,500 --> 01:08:58,100
We do see another actor at this 
point which is we Fred. 

1157
01:08:58,100 --> 01:09:02,700
Fred the Builder. 
Yeah, which is Dave Lodge from 

1158
01:09:02,700 --> 01:09:04,600
cockleshell. 
He wasn't cocky show Heroes 

1159
01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:18,500
course. 
Dave lodges in it. 

1160
01:09:18,500 --> 01:09:20,000
Of course. 
He is, of course. 

1161
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,000
It goes. 
I'm surprised brain starts going

1162
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:27,800
to say, he doesn't even get, I 
think he gets a line and that's 

1163
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,399
it, isn't it? 
I don't think. 

1164
01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:33,200
I don't think he's even really 
credited, you know in the 

1165
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,000
Phillies days. 
Definitely. 

1166
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,300
All credits start. 
I don't think he's credited the 

1167
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:40,899
end so I yeah, it's uncredited 
turn from from Dave's Lodge and 

1168
01:09:40,899 --> 01:09:43,300
you're right. 
It does how he literally one 

1169
01:09:43,300 --> 01:09:47,700
line about where it's where the 
sink is meant to go, or where 

1170
01:09:47,700 --> 01:09:50,000
something is meant to go and 
Hoffman. 

1171
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,500
Like 10 know which it should go 
over there and then that's where

1172
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,800
Janet goes off and checked out 
the wallpaper. 

1173
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:00,000
Yeah, that's right. 
Come here. 

1174
01:10:04,700 --> 01:10:08,300
I'll teach you something from my
extensive repertoire, this is 

1175
01:10:08,300 --> 01:10:11,900
known as Chopsticks, right? 
And you start by playing these 

1176
01:10:11,900 --> 01:10:17,100
two notes together and then you 
go to these two notes. 

1177
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,900
Little bit further apart than 
these two nodes. 

1178
01:10:22,500 --> 01:10:25,600
And these two units. 
Along with mine. 

1179
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,400
What about this in the middle? 
I'll do that. 

1180
01:10:34,300 --> 01:10:43,000
You can do that. 
Start down here. 

1181
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,200
You are. 
That'll be a duet or instant 

1182
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,000
cacophony. 
Are you ready? 

1183
01:10:49,000 --> 01:11:15,500
1, 2, 3. 
I'm waiting for you and then we 

1184
01:11:15,500 --> 01:11:20,000
have probably the best-known 
seen from this film the back of 

1185
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,200
his flat and they're both 
sitting at the piano playing 

1186
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:26,300
Chopsticks and really getting on
well, aren't they? 

1187
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:32,400
Mmm. 
And And she, she says that she 

1188
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,300
should phone Tom her fiance 
because obviously she's meant to

1189
01:11:35,300 --> 01:11:38,800
be up in Scarborough, mmm. 
And then Hoffman says, well, 

1190
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:44,700
I'll pretend to be the operator.
And yeah, and then that moment 

1191
01:11:44,700 --> 01:11:50,500
is well he's it's almost it's 
the word giddy comes to mind 

1192
01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:52,300
when I think of that moment. 
Yeah. 

1193
01:11:52,800 --> 01:12:10,500
Um it's like oh, your fiancee 
and I was thinking anticipating 

1194
01:12:10,500 --> 01:12:13,700
that sellers is going to Funny 
voice as the Opera. 

1195
01:12:13,700 --> 01:12:14,500
Yes. 
Yes. 

1196
01:12:14,500 --> 01:12:16,300
I think he's going to put on 
this really good. 

1197
01:12:16,500 --> 01:12:18,600
You know, one of his female 
voice is one of his sort of 

1198
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,200
nosey female voices. 
The one, the one time he's got 

1199
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,600
the opportunity in this movie to
do a voice that on his own, but 

1200
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,000
he doesn't. 
He just does it in his own voice

1201
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,800
with it with a hanky over the 
mouthpiece, which thank you for 

1202
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,600
choosing me because the feet of 
the Beyonce will who will know 

1203
01:12:35,500 --> 01:12:38,700
but we have a bit of sort of 
development in the plot here 

1204
01:12:38,700 --> 01:12:45,000
because Janet speaks to Tom's 
mother And his mother tells him 

1205
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:49,300
that Tom the next day is going 
up to scarpered to see Janet, 

1206
01:12:49,500 --> 01:12:55,000
easy, Janet panics MN and blabs 
out that, yeah, granny, grannys 

1207
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,100
all better. 
And again tomorrow, yeah, phone 

1208
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:00,600
phone goes, bang straight down. 
Yeah. 

1209
01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:03,800
And and Hoffman is obviously 
devastated because she didn't, 

1210
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,700
he. 
Yeah, he's horrified, he's 

1211
01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:10,300
again, it's that image in the 
image of him on front of the 

1212
01:13:10,300 --> 01:13:11,900
life of death of Peter Sellers, 
that little boat. 

1213
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,700
But yeah, is yeah, yeah, he's 
only got Fortune. 

1214
01:13:15,700 --> 01:13:19,700
He's only had four days with her
rather than the lead week and 

1215
01:13:19,700 --> 01:13:24,300
he's sort of, you can see him, 
just the, the cogs in his head 

1216
01:13:24,700 --> 01:13:28,800
turning and he's trying to 
decide what what to do and then 

1217
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,400
you get the feeling he's 
decided, he has to accelerate a 

1218
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,800
plan because he says, he has to 
go out for about 20 minutes. 

1219
01:13:37,700 --> 01:13:41,000
And you think, was he going out 
for and it, you can, you can 

1220
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,700
imagine what it could be. 
And like, all things. 

1221
01:13:44,700 --> 01:13:46,600
It's the one moment in the film 
there. 

1222
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,900
Now, separate the entire film, 
they have been together there in

1223
01:13:50,900 --> 01:13:53,400
the sea. 
Hey, but there's the one moment 

1224
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:59,500
he goes, I'm popping out here. 
Yeah, and while he's out Janet 

1225
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,900
gets the key and opens that 
door. 

1226
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,600
Hmm. 
Is this really messy bedroom and

1227
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,900
there's gin Tools. 
And The broken mirror the 

1228
01:14:10,900 --> 01:14:14,100
dressing-table. 
And there's these letters and 

1229
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:17,600
they're from Barbara to Benjamin
Hoffman. 

1230
01:14:18,900 --> 01:14:22,700
And there's some, there's like a
publicity photo that I've her, I

1231
01:14:22,700 --> 01:14:24,300
think. 
Yeah, they didn't quite use a 

1232
01:14:24,308 --> 01:14:26,800
Mac User. 
She's a little more obvious, as 

1233
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:31,100
some of some description, and 
but the letters are very nasty. 

1234
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:33,800
That's say that she should be 
free from him and she's going to

1235
01:14:33,808 --> 01:14:37,700
be famous and, and whatnot. 
While Janet's reading these 

1236
01:14:37,700 --> 01:14:40,500
Hoffman returns. 
And he looks thoroughly, 

1237
01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:45,300
Richard, E, and, and he says 
that, he says, not tonight, Miss

1238
01:14:45,300 --> 01:14:48,500
Smith, something like that. 
Yes, yeah. 

1239
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,500
And and she gets up in the 
middle of the night and puts 

1240
01:14:53,500 --> 01:14:56,500
perfume on in, it's like, she's 
decided to surrender herself to 

1241
01:14:56,500 --> 01:14:58,500
him. 
Well, I think, yeah, he knows. 

1242
01:14:58,500 --> 01:15:01,600
He knows it's the final. 
I think, I think she's assuming 

1243
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:06,000
that now, it's the final night. 
He will do the deed, as it were 

1244
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:10,600
creates, kind of his last 
opportunity to Yeah, so she she 

1245
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,300
gets into bed, takes her clothes
off and then we see the him 

1246
01:15:13,300 --> 01:15:17,800
waking up in the morning seeing 
had her naked back and he's 

1247
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,200
confused momentarily. 
Hmm. 

1248
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,400
And then I think he kind of 
maybe kisses her shoulder and 

1249
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,700
then he gets up. 
She's and she's Furious. 

1250
01:15:26,900 --> 01:15:33,100
Yeah, she's, she's offended. 
Yeah, she calls my rotten hoaxer

1251
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:36,000
and that's when it all comes 
out. 

1252
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,300
He just he admits. 
He just wanted to look after he 

1253
01:15:38,300 --> 01:15:40,600
too. 
He to look after it to Baby her.

1254
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,800
Yeah, he says you could live 
like a little mouse in my 

1255
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,200
pocket. 
I just wanted to Woo. 

1256
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,400
You, You You Mmm? 
Yeah. 

1257
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,600
And he's really on edge and 
she's Furious. 

1258
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,700
He manages to kind of placated 
with breakfast in bed. 

1259
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,000
And then he's walk, he's pacing 
around the kitchen, waiting for 

1260
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,200
something, he's making any 
screen trying to make himself 

1261
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,500
look a bit, sort of, you've got 
that, you've got the radio 

1262
01:16:04,500 --> 01:16:07,200
playing playing as well. 
Oh yeah. 

1263
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,300
First time you've got with vote 
on the radio, play in this whole

1264
01:16:10,300 --> 01:16:11,400
time. 
That's true. 

1265
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,000
Yeah, but he's made, he's 
undoing the couple of buttons of

1266
01:16:15,008 --> 01:16:18,700
his pajama top and making 
himself look as if he's, you 

1267
01:16:18,700 --> 01:16:20,900
know, he's been a shot all night
or something. 

1268
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,300
And then the doorbell rings. 
He's expected this and of 

1269
01:16:25,300 --> 01:16:28,700
course, it's And Thomas first 
thinks that he's at the wrong 

1270
01:16:28,700 --> 01:16:31,700
house. 
And then, we oh, oh mr. 

1271
01:16:31,700 --> 01:16:35,900
Hoffman, oh sorry. 
So what's happened to dr. 

1272
01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:39,900
Hoffman's, gone out the night 
before and sent us a telegram to

1273
01:16:39,900 --> 01:16:43,400
you. 
Tom and Hoffman implies. 

1274
01:16:43,500 --> 01:16:48,300
I didn't apply straight out says
I think that I'm very casually 

1275
01:16:48,300 --> 01:16:50,500
as well like it's very much. 
Come on. 

1276
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,100
Come on in. 
Have a cup of coffee? 

1277
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,000
Yes, she's here. 
She's in bed. 

1278
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:58,200
Yeah yeah yeah. 
And Tom confronts Janet. 

1279
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:01,700
Hmm and we got we got here. 
We got to hear a few more. 

1280
01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:04,500
I get we get to hear. 
They are telegram, which is 

1281
01:17:04,500 --> 01:17:06,800
another another ditty from 
Hoffman. 

1282
01:17:08,300 --> 01:17:11,400
Once you had a pretty girl, you 
and her were to be wet. 

1283
01:17:11,900 --> 01:17:16,800
Now, she's in another man's bed 
of fog, on the middle line 

1284
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:25,400
there, but I got another one. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1285
01:17:30,500 --> 01:17:36,400
Very old friends. 
I know you've been selling 

1286
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,200
information to people who steal 
the firm's Goods in transit. 

1287
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:43,400
I know why did you tell him? 
I've already paid a deposit on a

1288
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:47,400
house-wide. 
Resign disappear Canada, 

1289
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,900
Australia. 
So happy can please needs you 

1290
01:17:51,500 --> 01:17:52,300
disappear? 
Mitchell. 

1291
01:17:53,500 --> 01:17:57,600
Disappear. 
I might even pay your fare. 

1292
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,100
No, no, you're not going to 
listen to that, you know? 

1293
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:13,100
Well, wishes, you know, you 
know, he only cares about 

1294
01:18:13,100 --> 01:18:16,600
himself trying to stop hanging 
with people like you in the 

1295
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,500
world. 
What do you think? 

1296
01:18:18,500 --> 01:18:20,600
I'm going to get on with my own 
life. 

1297
01:18:22,900 --> 01:18:27,200
He won't want you to know. 
Why don't you shut up and a 

1298
01:18:27,208 --> 01:18:29,900
Janet insist that she's leaving 
with Tom and Hoffman begs him 

1299
01:18:29,907 --> 01:18:32,500
not to go? 
And she she says you, she's 

1300
01:18:32,500 --> 01:18:34,900
you're mad and you're ugly and 
yet who could? 

1301
01:18:34,900 --> 01:18:36,800
Who could love you? 
Yeah, yeah. 

1302
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:42,200
And he's absolutely crushed. 
Mmm, we stock still, he does, he

1303
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,200
does not move, he just just 
takes it. 

1304
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:51,600
No, and we see next thing we see
the fourth named person in the 

1305
01:18:51,608 --> 01:18:55,100
Cars For the First Time. 
Tom's overbearing. 

1306
01:18:55,900 --> 01:18:58,600
Which I, which Hoffman and whole
from the first year, earlier on 

1307
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:04,600
Disney go, like, when you're 
married to Tom's mother and his 

1308
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:08,800
mother's obvious is mother knows
all about Tom's Shenanigans and 

1309
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,600
you and and the implication is 
that it was going so. 

1310
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,500
Well, she says, at one point, 
doesn't she? 

1311
01:19:14,700 --> 01:19:18,100
Yeah, the implication is that if
Tom's going to flee with Janet 

1312
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,500
abroad, then the mothers going 
as well. 

1313
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,000
Yeah. 
And Janet says he should go to 

1314
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,500
the police. 
And own up and you know you 

1315
01:19:26,500 --> 01:19:29,800
might do a year and choki but it
would be weird that, you know, 

1316
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,800
and she said you know, and 
she'll she'll say that, you 

1317
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,300
know, she was in on it as well 
and you know, so she's not going

1318
01:19:35,300 --> 01:19:40,200
to get off scot-free but then 
his mother quite pointedly 

1319
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,100
suggests that Janet go back to 
Hoffman and try and reason with 

1320
01:19:43,100 --> 01:19:47,200
him and Janet says, well Tom, 
you know, would you like me to 

1321
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,000
go back and talk to him again 
and Tom's just, he doesn't. 

1322
01:19:51,100 --> 01:19:54,100
He's, he wants whatever it 
takes, whatever he's quiet. 

1323
01:19:54,100 --> 01:19:56,100
You do is what? 
He says he goes. 

1324
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,500
What does it matter? 
You've been with them all week. 

1325
01:19:58,900 --> 01:20:01,000
Very, very sharply and very 
angrily. 

1326
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:10,600
Yeah, yeah, not surprising. 
It's yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1327
01:20:11,500 --> 01:20:13,200
He seems more concerned about 
the older. 

1328
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,100
The older been caught on the 
cigarettes. 

1329
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:19,000
Yeah, yeah. 
It's she looks very hurt. 

1330
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:24,500
She leaves and then she's out on
the street and she she decides 

1331
01:20:24,500 --> 01:20:26,800
upon a call. 
Cause of action Yugi. 

1332
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:31,700
She heads off. 
And invariably she turns up at 

1333
01:20:31,700 --> 01:20:34,500
Hoffman's, again, we do. 
But we haven't, we have a shot 

1334
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,800
of Hoffman in between there, 
don't we? 

1335
01:20:36,900 --> 01:20:41,500
Where he's just sad. 
We do in this flat all alone and

1336
01:20:41,500 --> 01:20:45,100
apparently there's two versions 
of that scene, the scene that 

1337
01:20:45,100 --> 01:20:49,000
you see, in the movie, where 
it's just him Sat, and there is 

1338
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:54,300
also a version where he cries 
film two versions, right? 

1339
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:58,800
Alvin David said, okay, Peter 
we're going to do this scene and

1340
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:03,000
he Peta was like okay yeah but I
want to cry I want to cry in 

1341
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,600
this scene and album rock or 
said to him. 

1342
01:21:07,900 --> 01:21:11,400
You know, it's better. 
If it's that you it's better for

1343
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:12,900
the ought. 
It's not very interesting for 

1344
01:21:12,900 --> 01:21:14,700
the audience for you to see you 
cry. 

1345
01:21:14,700 --> 01:21:17,300
It's better if the audience cry 
seeing you. 

1346
01:21:17,500 --> 01:21:20,200
So it's kind of like you want to
cry but you hold it back. 

1347
01:21:20,300 --> 01:21:22,200
Yeah. 
And apparently solid said that's

1348
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,000
one of the best pieces of 
Direction he'd ever ever. 

1349
01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:29,600
Been given but he did send cyst 
on doing a version where cried? 

1350
01:21:30,100 --> 01:21:32,600
Yeah. 
And then again, there's these 

1351
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,600
all these all techniques of 
crying. 

1352
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,500
You know, you can either. 
Again, all tricks of the trade, 

1353
01:21:37,700 --> 01:21:40,200
you know, you can either pinch 
yourself or you can put a 

1354
01:21:40,208 --> 01:21:43,600
solution in your eyes that can 
induce tears. 

1355
01:21:44,900 --> 01:21:46,300
Oh. 
Oh, you could get David Lodge to

1356
01:21:46,300 --> 01:21:52,700
kick him in the nuts. 
Yeah so you've got the drops. 

1357
01:21:52,700 --> 01:21:54,800
You've got the nip? 
You've got a David Lodge option.

1358
01:21:54,900 --> 01:21:57,300
Yeah. 
He said no to eat said no to all

1359
01:21:57,300 --> 01:22:01,000
three and said, like I'm just 
going to naturally naturally cry

1360
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,600
and apparently they started 
filming and again you've only 

1361
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:10,400
got 10 minutes of film in the 
can and they start rolling and 

1362
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,000
you're getting towards a 10 
minutes and there are no tears 

1363
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,600
coming from sellers whatsoever, 
the point, the cameraman's 

1364
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,500
event, like, you know, God 
should we teach we you know, is 

1365
01:22:20,500 --> 01:22:23,900
he almost there, you know, 
again, sellers temporary. 

1366
01:22:23,900 --> 01:22:27,500
I temperamental Man, again they 
go a couple of the crew of kind 

1367
01:22:27,500 --> 01:22:31,900
of pointed out that EV one of 
those chaps that old Peter. 

1368
01:22:31,900 --> 01:22:33,500
Could you move forward for the 
lighting? 

1369
01:22:33,500 --> 01:22:35,900
And he'd say, no no, I'm staying
where I am so you'd have to 

1370
01:22:35,900 --> 01:22:37,700
recheck the scene? 
Yes forward. 

1371
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,800
He was standing awkward further.
Yeah, y'all got extremely 

1372
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,100
awkward Burger but so yeah. 
So they were getting to almost 

1373
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:50,200
to the end of the can And the 
tears did come, but apparently, 

1374
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,000
when they were adjusting the 
lights, the focuser had done it 

1375
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,300
the wrong way. 
Instead of getting darker, he 

1376
01:22:56,300 --> 01:22:59,200
started going lighter. 
How's it going? 

1377
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,500
It, he starts crying. 
He's getting lighter and lighter

1378
01:23:01,500 --> 01:23:03,900
and lighter. 
So after they filmed it, they 

1379
01:23:03,900 --> 01:23:06,100
turns he goes like, alright, 
you've done it. 

1380
01:23:06,100 --> 01:23:08,200
You've done it the wrong way. 
We were meant to go darker, not 

1381
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,000
like that dude. 
Again, I'm not going to get him 

1382
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:17,700
to do it again. 
Fellas got his little ego moment

1383
01:23:17,700 --> 01:23:21,000
but that's not the version that 
we see in the film. 

1384
01:23:22,300 --> 01:23:25,100
I'd love to wish that I'd been a
deleted scene on the other 

1385
01:23:25,100 --> 01:23:28,200
Blu-ray, but yeah, pretty much 
long gone. 

1386
01:23:28,700 --> 01:23:32,300
And yeah, so Janet turns up at 
his flat and yeah, he's 

1387
01:23:32,300 --> 01:23:36,300
delighted to see he's obviously 
feeling virtually suicide or 

1388
01:23:36,300 --> 01:23:38,800
slumped in the chair until yeah 
till she arrives. 

1389
01:23:39,700 --> 01:23:42,800
She looks very hopeful and she 
looked him in the eyes and she 

1390
01:23:42,808 --> 01:23:47,200
says, can I give up work and 
have piano lessons and Etc. 

1391
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:48,900
Etc. 
And he said, yes. 

1392
01:23:49,100 --> 01:23:50,900
And she says, can you kiss me 
now, please? 

1393
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,300
And he kind of visibly melts, 
isn't he? 

1394
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,700
Hmm. 
And then she says, can I go to 

1395
01:23:57,700 --> 01:23:59,000
bed now? 
Because I'm tired. 

1396
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:05,100
Mmm, and he says they come over 
quick mr. 

1397
01:24:07,300 --> 01:24:16,300
Welcome home. 
See if I'm wrong. 

1398
01:24:18,300 --> 01:24:24,600
It's nice pretending. 
It may soon be my next time. 

1399
01:24:26,300 --> 01:24:30,000
That's the film. 
Now, that's a happy ending. 

1400
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:37,500
Yeah, the door slowly closes. 
Yeah. 

1401
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,700
And once again to I think Roger 
Lewis highly implies and then 

1402
01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:54,400
Emergency. 
A him to some extent with the 

1403
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:58,200
performance with her Antony 
Hopkins is Hannibal Lecter. 

1404
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,800
Well yeah yeah well kind of 
interesting you mentioned the 

1405
01:25:00,808 --> 01:25:04,400
collector because the collector 
this film and again it's a bit 

1406
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,500
like a sort of again. 
Did The Other Extreme is Buffalo

1407
01:25:07,500 --> 01:25:09,100
Bill and Silence of the Lambs. 
Yeah. 

1408
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,500
Yeah. 
It's an it's an unexpected 

1409
01:25:11,500 --> 01:25:16,400
ending in a way but I suppose 
that's the only ending If you 

1410
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:20,600
think about it, that it could 
really have other other than she

1411
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,200
goes off with tommen, marries 
him. 

1412
01:25:22,700 --> 01:25:25,000
Yeah, and Hoffman. 
Just gets drunk. 

1413
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:29,600
And what again in the play, he 
again, I don't think this is in 

1414
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:33,400
the TV play all the film, but in
the play in Dublin, he actually 

1415
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,200
just about to commit suicide 
before she comes back in. 

1416
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,500
Right? 
Is it, is it sending the right 

1417
01:25:39,500 --> 01:25:41,900
message? 
Patrick do you think? 

1418
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,700
Dude, took a good two? 
Quota album Rock Mafia is. 

1419
01:25:46,100 --> 01:25:47,600
Very Politically Incorrect. 
Yeah. 

1420
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:54,500
It's it's a very it's very much 
of its time, you know? 

1421
01:25:54,500 --> 01:25:58,600
It's a film that I would, I 
would not exactly recommend the 

1422
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,100
people I, you know, I don't 
think it's, I don't think it's a

1423
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:03,600
minute missing Masterpiece. 
It's not a date movie. 

1424
01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:05,700
Yeah. 
It's certainly not add a movie. 

1425
01:26:05,900 --> 01:26:09,200
It's not a missing Masterpiece 
so of that sort. 

1426
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:13,400
But it's, it's a very strange 
story told. 

1427
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:20,900
Well, yeah, and performed. 
Well, And yeah, I but again you 

1428
01:26:20,900 --> 01:26:26,300
couldn't do it today. 
I don't know not unless he 

1429
01:26:26,300 --> 01:26:27,900
changed the ending quite 
dramatic. 

1430
01:26:27,900 --> 01:26:29,400
Yeah. 
I think, I think the ending. 

1431
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:33,000
It's a very, very dark film with
a happy ending. 

1432
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,300
Yeah. 
We're the bad guy. 

1433
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,000
Yeah. 
Since the bad guy wins? 

1434
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,500
Yeah. 
And again again it you do. 

1435
01:26:40,500 --> 01:26:42,600
You know, we don't know. 
We don't learn really anything 

1436
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,300
about Tom except that he 
smuggled a couple. 

1437
01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:50,900
He's And part of the cigarettes.
Cigarette heists. 

1438
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,100
Yeah, but even that mean he's 
just the Middle East, the middle

1439
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:54,500
man who's been passing 
information. 

1440
01:26:54,500 --> 01:26:56,400
He hasn't been doing it 
themselves. 

1441
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,400
Let's say, but then he's got, 
he's got this Mother's mother 

1442
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,600
who has got far too much 
influence over him. 

1443
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,100
Clearly. 
Mmm. 

1444
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:07,600
And again, it's a very typical 
sort of 1960s, 1970s sort of 

1445
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,700
Comedy mother. 
Yeah. 

1446
01:27:11,300 --> 01:27:19,400
Expecting a Handler Peggy mouth,
but the fact that he was quite 

1447
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,500
happy for her to go back to Half
Men. 

1448
01:27:21,500 --> 01:27:24,600
Yeah rather than say Over My 
Dead Body. 

1449
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,100
Hmm. 
Well what if Yak is again I 

1450
01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:30,100
think the main focus comes about
getting off the hook. 

1451
01:27:30,300 --> 01:27:32,600
Yeah. 
When she says that lying, do you

1452
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:34,700
want me to go back to him? 
Hmm. 

1453
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:38,400
You know, it's a double meaning,
you know, doot-doot resin. 

1454
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,600
Do you want to go back to him? 
Talk about the cigarettes. 

1455
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:45,200
She's saying, do you want me to 
go back to him as in go back to 

1456
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,900
that life? 
That India during the last week.

1457
01:27:48,100 --> 01:27:53,200
Yeah, it's an interesting film. 
I would I enjoyed it as much as 

1458
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,900
you can enjoy a film where 
you've got a terrible 

1459
01:27:56,900 --> 01:27:58,900
misogynist. 
Yeah. 

1460
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,900
Dropping witty epigrams on of 
the shop. 

1461
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:09,400
Robbing his quotes of cooked of 
wisdom, like you say it's not a 

1462
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:10,600
film. 
You'd recommend it, certainly 

1463
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:15,500
not if, if you were, if you were
to say to a group of school 

1464
01:28:15,500 --> 01:28:17,800
children, Hey, would you like to
watch a Peter Sellers film? 

1465
01:28:18,100 --> 01:28:20,800
I'd skip ad stick on and then I 
return of the Pink Panther. 

1466
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:29,000
I wouldn't say again. 
I think it's, it's certainly a 

1467
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,400
film for I'd say, like, sellers 
completists. 

1468
01:28:31,500 --> 01:28:37,200
Yeah, I think it's interesting 
in terms of his career, like, 

1469
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:42,100
where it was at that time and 
again, it's falls into that 

1470
01:28:42,100 --> 01:28:44,000
category of Peter Sellers 
movies. 

1471
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:48,100
That, as I said, the Tiger If 
you again, if you want to just 

1472
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:50,900
sell this movie now and kind of 
be the book, the film, The Star,

1473
01:28:50,900 --> 01:28:55,600
never want you to see the poster
for this film. 

1474
01:28:56,100 --> 01:29:00,400
It's implies it implies that 
it's going to be a lot raunchier

1475
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:04,400
than it is. 
In the post, the main poster 

1476
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,700
which is the one you kind of see
being used in different 

1477
01:29:06,700 --> 01:29:13,300
territories, is this image of 
sellers looking very for Lon and

1478
01:29:13,300 --> 01:29:16,600
the image of Sinéad Cusack, push
pulling up her dress Dress. 

1479
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,800
Yeah. 
And again that's the image that 

1480
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,500
is kind of sold on it. 
You kind of gave that this up as

1481
01:29:21,500 --> 01:29:23,400
a poster, you would think this 
was, you know? 

1482
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,600
And again, you have Peter 
Sellers, you have got Sinéad 

1483
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:30,400
Cusack, is the 1970s, you could 
be mistaken thinking, this is a 

1484
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,600
precursor to the confessions of 
the adventure movie, but or it 

1485
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,300
was just or yeah, it was just 
one of those films from around 

1486
01:29:36,300 --> 01:29:39,000
this period, that had gratuitous
nudity in it. 

1487
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:40,300
Like, yeah, exactly. 
It. 

1488
01:29:40,700 --> 01:29:43,100
And even then just to sell it. 
The seller than that way. 

1489
01:29:43,100 --> 01:29:46,500
You do your your again, as you 
said, you got Peter Comic actor,

1490
01:29:46,500 --> 01:29:49,300
You Think You're Expecting 
accommodate it's not really a 

1491
01:29:49,308 --> 01:29:51,800
comedy again to sell it with 
that. 

1492
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,800
The maybe some nudity, there's 
no nudity. 

1493
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,200
And that's right. 
Exactly. 

1494
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,000
You're going to be disappointed 
about that. 

1495
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:02,100
You can ask for a refund. 
Yeah yeah it would be a nice 

1496
01:30:02,100 --> 01:30:04,200
companion piece. 
As I mentioned, we've mentioned 

1497
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:09,800
before the collector by the 
Wyler adaptation of John fowles 

1498
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:15,100
novel which is Terence Stamp and
Samantha eggar yes Matt bag. 

1499
01:30:15,100 --> 01:30:17,800
Yeah. 
The kind of more the back at the

1500
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:21,900
back of tennis balls head. 
Oh, that's that's right. 

1501
01:30:21,900 --> 01:30:25,300
That's right. 
Forgotten a originally casted, 

1502
01:30:25,300 --> 01:30:28,400
the boyfriend and all his scenes
are value, asiya. 

1503
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,700
Got the oldest equality, 
policies are cut out, except for

1504
01:30:31,700 --> 01:30:33,700
one scene in the bar where you 
can see the back of can of 

1505
01:30:33,700 --> 01:30:34,800
course head. 
Yeah. 

1506
01:30:34,900 --> 01:30:35,800
Right. 
Okay. 

1507
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:39,400
So that's a that's a great film 
as well but again, not a date 

1508
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:40,800
film. 
Not a date. 

1509
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:44,100
But well Patrick listen, it's 
been really. 

1510
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:45,800
It's been a revelation speaking 
with you obviously. 

1511
01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:48,800
I see you. 
And I never met before this the 

1512
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,300
first time we've met, but it's 
been brilliant. 

1513
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,200
Well, face somewhat. 
Honestly, this has been an 

1514
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,800
absolute pleasure. 
Thank you, still great salad, 

1515
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:57,500
then. 
Great. 

1516
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,800
Thanks again to Patrick and 
thank you for listening. 

1517
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,400
I'll be back next week with 
another show and until then 

1518
01:31:04,700 --> 01:31:06,200
enjoy the weather. 
See you soon? 

1519
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:06,800
Bye.
