That's him. That's me.
I don't know who that is. When The Morning Star, nin, you
live, the postman stuff with the dog do not, you know,
Hello and welcome to goon pod on a very, very hot day.
I'm joined by an equally sweaty guest, a returning guest.
Sorry Jeremy didn't mean to refer to you like that.
Thanks for getting that out of the way, right?
Start. Yeah, Jeremy Phillips from
Cinema limbo. Allow their thank you for
returning. It was last time you were here.
It was what it was 18 months ago.
I guess it was, it was quite a while.
Uh yeah and you've come back to talk about a film but before we
before we go on to that before we get into that let's talk
about Cinema limbo. Which I have been a guest on on
two occasions that I think I think there was just the one
occasion when we last spoke on goon pod but I've subsequently
joined you to talk about the comic with Dick Van.
Dyke. Yes a really unusual fascinating
filled. That's weirdly being forgotten.
Van Dyke's greatest performance. Hmm, I think as a really
horrible person, yeah. It's the story of a fictional
comic in the 1920s who systemically destroys his own
life because of his own ego. And it's a remarkable film from
1969 available now to watch for free on YouTube because the
copyright holder seemingly doesn't get now to written a
really good film and I enjoyed I enjoyed talking about it.
So it's in a limbo I think it's fair to say that.
You cover. Both highbrow and lowbrow
Cinema. Yes, I'm just.
Yeah, the remit is underappreciated film, so that
could equally be films. That have been big box office
failures, like the most recent version of the Fantastic Four,
or Hudson Hawk, or more obscure films, which have fallen out of
the movie conversation, like the comic one upcoming film, I'm
doing So, the next episode that's coming out is Amsterdam
and which is a Dutch action thriller, which is uniquely
Dutch in tone and style, but is easily the equal of anything
Hollywood was making in the late 80s.
Okay? It was, what's his name?
Paul verhoeven. Was he involved with that at
all? No, it was, it was by the other
Dutch director, dick mass and it was his Spirit.
His brainchild? Yes, it is a funny name.
Name isn't sorry, I'm such a child.
I tell you, I Dutch film. I do enjoy from the 80s as its
poor lose. Is that how?
It's pronounced the vanish? I believe.
So, yes. George slices, The Vanishing.
I've not seen the original, but I have seen the American remake.
He made when they change the ending, which I won't spoil.
Mmm, but it completely blows. The film's foot off in terms of
quality. Yeah, okay, well I haven't seen
that. But no, the original is very,
very good. Yeah.
So in essence, I suppose you examine the sort of films that
would be the, the, the weird videos on the bottom shelf at
the Blockbuster that you'd kind of grudgingly rent when Back to
the Future and Rambo when the Terminator were were out.
Well, yeah, I mean the most recent releases we've had is
Supergirl Which has wound up being bizarrely timely because
the flash has just been released in cinemas with the first Cinema
appearance by the character and Supergirl since 1984, and it was
interesting to re-examine that film and think about all the
reasons why it doesn't work and wasn't Peter, O'Toole in that
Peter O'Toole, and Peter Cook. Peter, a cook Peter, Peter
occur. Fukrey, yes, there was an
accident and they merged there's a lot of an analogy to the first
Superman film and Peter Cook. Effectively plays, the Ned
Beatty role of the villains funny sidekick, but he's playing
it as Peter Cook. So it's very strange to see him
in, in a superhero picture, playing henchmen to Faye Dunaway
as a source with a wants to take over the world.
The world. Hmm.
Okay any other shows on the Slate that you've not yet
recorded, another one coming up is equilibrium the 2002 Sci-Fi
Action Movie that tries to cross 1984 with the Matrix and has a
bizarre all-star cast for a film.
That got barely released Christian Bale, Emily, Watson,
Sean Bean and Sean Pertwee. I'm also hoping to do an episode
on a film called the telephone, which was Harry nilsson's last
roll of the dice as a creative Force.
Co-written by him with Terry Southern Iran also directed by
Rip Torn, his only film as director Li me and he starring
Whoopi Goldberg in. What is effectively a one-woman
show of a woman in her apartment, interacting with the
outside world through Hotel. A phone over the course of 90
minutes in real time and it was buried at the time.
It was, everyone was off their face on cocaine when it was
being made, mmm. And like I said, it's one of
those movies that it's just on YouTube for free and you could
watch it for nothing because no one, because no one bothered.
Yeah, because no one's bother picking up the right.
And it's a really interesting strange.
Oddity of all these people either at the end or the
beginning of there. Is just getting back to
equilibrium. I've got this terrible memory of
being at a family event where someone suggested doing sure
playing charades, you know, how they do.
Oh yes, and I got given X equilibrium.
Can you imagine China, China act that out the solution I think,
is rather like, in that episode of Peep Show where Jesse's given
the unbearable lightness of being and he simply mines, In
run instead and Jazz the person who gave him the piece of paper
to correct him. Okay, so we aren't we are
talking about a film today as I said and it is the 1962, British
comedy film postman's. Knock starring everyone's
favorite Spike Milligan. So Jeremy, why would you suggest
coming on and talking about this film?
Why wide postman's knock? Why this film?
Well it My list of films to come off a cinema limbo.
So it was a nice bit of overlap in our, okay, Collective remit.
I've been a, as I said, on the, my previous appearance, I've
been a huge gun show fan for many, many years ever.
Since I was a young teenager, and I've watched many of the
films that Peter Sellers as done is my favorite actor.
Milligan had a much less eventful career as a film actor
and correct. If I'm wrong, but this is his
only lead role. Is that right?
Yes. Yes, pretty much.
Yeah it is. So I thought it was interesting
that a talent as singular as visual as here because Q, I
think works fantastically well and that was in that visual
sense, and his writing means that he knows how to tell a
story and those how to explore characters ever a long-form
piece of work. all of that together, yields one single lead
role but fairly obscure But I found it to be really not not
not as representative of the spike humor, his style of Comedy
as I would have hoped. Oh no.
I mean, it could have really could have been any.
He's a pretty I mean in this film we'll talk about this.
He is fairly Bland really he's not he's not wacky zany Spike.
There are a couple of moments now and then where he Paul sort
of a equals this face or white horse.
His eyebrows a bit, but it's, it's immediately lost.
Yeah, so we'll look at the the beginnings or what, how this
film came about and spikes, rather, abortive film career.
So in late 1959, the running jumping and standing still film
comes out. And in early 1960 it's announce
that it's been nominated for an Academy Award and I know that I
mean it didn't win it, but it was the Kim's, you know,
nominations pretty good. And I know Spike for the rest of
his life. I was very proud of that fact,
and obviously his colleague, Peter Sellers, was his film.
Career was on the up-and-up and in January 1960, the Goon show
ends. And in April 1960, the UK, I
think it was the UK of MGM signed Spike up on a contract to
make to make films for at least seven years early, and for a
sizable son. I don't know how much but he was
going to make some decent money out of it and a name GM.
Spokesman said, that spike is a great personality and we hope to
make full use of his talents as a comic, actor, writer and
ideas, man. I think Spike saw himself as as
equally talented, if not more talented, Peter Sellers perhaps
and maybe he saw himself copping some of that.
Some of that success that sellers was enjoying because,
you know, with each successive film you know, the films were
getting better and better more financially successful and
critically acclaimed and sellers.
In fact, one in March, 1961, a best actor, bafta for I'm all
right jack. So I wondered where the spike
felt that he himself could make it as a you know as a Screen
Actor. Comic screen The or inactive
period because sellers were turning out to be not, just to
be, you know, a fine comic on the Silver Screen.
But he was also, it also filmed, never let go.
Have you ever seen never let go Jeremy?
Yes, I saw that a couple of years ago and I was very
impressed by it. I thought you were a big boy but
a few bucks. Brighten the veneer.
You never believed it would you some of these young tatse.
Just don't bloody care. Pick it up to me it shows.
You see they never learn. They all think they know better
than I do but you've only got to look at them.
And look at me, haven't you? You see, I've I've got a
legitimate business here, Tommy, but nearly 200 account customers
and I've got twice as much cash on the side.
Well, I because I've learned that money makes money.
Tommy Boy. Never do anything silly and you
can be. All right.
Your trouble is you just don't think you want to think.
Listen to Lin, don't go doing anything silly again.
You see, nobody tell me. So he can he could he have to
eat the dramatic chops as well and I just wonder where the
spike thought well you know, I should be having some of that.
I think basically, he might have been looking towards the likes
of Stan Laurel or Jacques tati in terms of the actor comedian
writer model of a comedy otter, and hoping that he was going to
have something like that, perhaps.
Oops, possibly. Yeah, although of course
postman's knock. He's credited as is contributing
some dialogue, but that's about it but maybe yeah, maybe that
was the initial motivation. But yeah, it's his film career
didn't take off and in the early 1970s in an interview he said he
said, I'd very much like to have done comedy in films and I
wonder how people who are less funny than I am.
Have got into it spiked with typical humility.
Anyway, He was so spike in 61 was cast in the film Invasion,
quartet alongside Bill Travers, who listens to go in public
folders talking about on the smaller Show on Earth two-parter
and Spike later called the film desperately unfunny, but there
was one major positive to come out of it in as much as he
noticed. One of the extras in the film,
who was a young lady called Patricia Ridgeway, who he was
subsequently to marry. Around this time that he was
filming Invasion cortex, the BBC were asking for another series
of the Goon show. It appears that the the idea for
a new series of the Goon show had been floated sporadically
since the end of series 10 in January 1960, and Harry was
usually willing but the other two, particularly Spike kind of
blew hot or cold on the on the idea.
So when he was approached in summer 1961, he wrote to the BBC
and he said, as much as I would like to write the show, I'm
sorry. But I cannot throw money away by
taking money at a smaller remuneration.
Therefore, my decision is that I want to write the show but
cannot afford to write under the conditions, the BBC stipulate.
So basically, he was saying that he didn't want to turn down MGM,
film work or compromise his commitment to MGM.
But that was where the real, the real money was.
But really after Invasion quartets, there was postman's
knock and that was it. He had a significant number of
other film roles during the rest of his career.
I mean yes, only a little while ago, I was listening to the last
word a bit SRI on Raquel Welch and doesn't aren't they a couple
in the three? And the Four Musketeers?
Yeah. Three Musketeers.
Yeah, hmm. And his Cameo, and Life of
Brian, I think yet was yellowbeard his last film.
Do you know think it may have been?
Yeah, that was 83, wasn't it? Yes, I think it may well have
been. Yeah, absolutely.
He was in and he was in a string of films but never it was, it
was usually a cameo role or at least third or fourth, or fifth
down the cast list. It was the special guest star.
Yeah. Like the logo as in Digby.
The biggest dog in the world. Oh well, I mean the big star.
There is the dog. Yes.
Saying that we said was this was postman's knock. like he's only
starring role I suppose you could also say the great
McGonagall In the mid 70s, although he's oh yeah, I know he
is the star of that. He's the titular star, isn't he?
I've not seen it. My understanding was, it was
kind of a split lead with sellers.
Well, I guess that was just to make sure that he could get
settled on board. But sellers are only in it for a
probably about seven or eight minutes in total.
So ghost in the Noonday Sun would be more of a split between
the two. Well, that was more sellers.
Yeah. Milligan was quite it turns out
quite late in that film. So I would say, I would say the
great man. It was probably his last big
film role for sure, but they was Turnin up and things like, you
know, how did the Baskervilles to cook and more and of the
Baskervilles last remake of Beau geste, Marty Feldman.
Seen any of those? No, I haven't actually it's
always seems to be in support of other Great Canadian.
So we got Marty Feldman cook and more.
He was he was in history of the World Part 1 for Mel Brooks, I
think. Yes he was and then yellowbeard
for Greg Chapman and so it's always sort of it.
It's nice to think that it's the next generation of comedians.
Wanting to bring in Spike, someone who they love and
respect. But it could but it could just
be that he was offered. Well-paid acting were consider
all right. Then.
Yeah, well I know what you did. Life of Brian famously?
He was just on holiday in our. Yeah.
That was just pure chance that he was there.
Yeah, so February 1996, T2 is very, he's a very busy man
early, early February, the bed, sitting room play began.
There's a, there's an audio recording of Spike live at the
Belgrade theater. Contrary recorded 18th of
February 1962, where there was Jazz and comedy and postman's
knock the film were talking about today was released on the
22nd of February 1962. The film is what you call it a
gentle comedy. Typical of the, the sort of
comedies low-budget its extremities.
It's coming out this time. It feels very Ealing.
It feels very Norman. Wisdom of the, the little man
against the system. I I can imagine they would have
wrapped this up in Albania. She's absolutely because I've I
was thinking watching it. It's yet.
There's a there's a notable scene or scenes where you've got
another example. Yet another example of, of the
Triumph of the little man over newfangled technology,
everything is mechanized and modern, doesn't end, and it's
and I guess it's playing to Their audience which is largely
consisting of people suspicious. Of the march of progress and the
increased automation of the workplace.
It's always very pro-worker pro-union often.
Yeah. And it's interesting then to
look at the other carry on Films, which were consistently
successful, but then in 1970, you have carry on at your
convenience, which is a satire on Labor Relations and Union
politics and it was famously aboard because it it ran counter
to what the audience wanted. Yeah it's right.
I mean I think that's my favorite carry on film that end.
It sort of it alternates between that and carry on abroad.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
What's your favorite? Not don't take Columbus.
Now I've done an episode on carry on Columbus with me.
Oh well yes and didn't didn't didn't.
Didn't we do well, didn't we not know?
I would, I have very fond memories of carry on doctor and
carry on at the jungle, but I think I'd have to go for up the
Khyber, okay? I think, I think it's just the
most lavishly produced most polished most witty.
Film in the series where with everyone at the height of their
abilities. With this all these resources
behind them location filming in far-off wails.
Yeah, it's a good. I mean, all I think we never
think of carry on up the Khyber just think of Tiffin.
I just think if Kenneth Williams face and his nostrils opening up
like Channel tunnel not flared nostrils.
Yeah. Okay.
So postman's knock, so starring Spike as Harold pets who is a
rural Village Postman, who somehow, or other gets a job in
the big city and Chaos ensues. Now, first observation, I would
make Spike. As I say plays Harold pets, and
I think his surname is was presumably coined, purely and
simply in order to trade on a recurring gag.
I didn't think they allowed pets in the post office.
Yeah, a couple of times, I think that's purely, that's, that's
the only reason he's called Harold, pets, names.
Pets are all that. I don't think we have to see the
day when it's what allowed in the post office, famous turbo.
It Yes, I mean it the the name needs to be something small and
concise. It doesn't.
It shouldn't be too over-elaborate.
Because that makes him sound too big instance, that you little,
because he's a little man in the system.
So it fits very neatly, but it also feels a bit too formulaic
as much of the film does, I think?
So, the, the, the original story is by Jack, Trevor story who I
knew from Um, he wrote The Trouble with Harry, which is a
very underrated Hitchcock film. Yes, it's very very good.
He he also wrote Invasion quartet which was the film Spike
made before this, and the screenplay was by Jack Trevor
story and John Briley with additional dialogue.
As I said, my Spike and George Berkeley and it was directed by
someone. I hadn't until this week and you
know obviously doing research for our conversation direct
directed by Robert Lynn who had never heard of who Really do
much else. It did quite a bit of Telly in
the 60s and 70s, and he produced the railway children, but his
career never really amounted to much.
Having said all that, having said, all that last night I was
watching for my sins, the fiendish plot of dr.
Fu-manchu. Oh yeah, because that is an
upcoming episode. We're doing a goon pod and I
Watching it with someone mutual friend, tilt, Gary and Andrew as
well. And I noticed that Robert Lynn
was listed as location manager. So and I think that he died
about a year later, so, that was through Manchu, was one of his
last films. Although he know, obviously he
wasn't directing it. So we've got spiked, we've got
as well in the cast. And Barbara Shelly as Jean.
Who's essentially the love interest for for Harold.
What did you say her name was Barbara Shelly.
Now the egg, the character Gene Where is it?
You got that from because I don't think her name is said at
any point in the film. It will it's not but it on
Wikipedia and IMDb it's down as Gene.
But yeah because that's the thing right up until the last 15
minutes. They're addressing each other,
she calls him Postman, and she called, he calls her Miss and
then she permits him or he permits her.
To call him Harold. But she she doesn't reciprocate
her don't think and they eventually get married and I'm
not even sure he knows what her name is.
No, I mean that again, there's humor in that of a, he never
finds out her name. And maybe it turns out she
doesn't have a name and like the ret the the marriage certificate
just has a blank space. It's it's, it's sloppy, really.
And given that there's a scene where she's in she's introduced
to, we see her friend. Oh, Barbara played by the
wonderful Denise coffee. Oh, she gets her name.
Oh yeah, she gets. She gets her name in it.
Yeah. But you thought?
Yes, exactly. You thought she'd have walked in
the the flat and say hello Jean, something like that.
Oh, Jane, I've been painting all night.
Yeah. And, and that twat of a Critic
art critic, who will come to mind you.
He wouldn't have referred to as Gene.
Would he have said? He'd have either said oh dear
Miss Cooper or whatever. Whatever her surname was you
know, he'd have been condescending like that are
either. I can't imagine I'll ever love
to see the name of Miss Jean Cooper in the National Gallery.
Yes. And then of course he should and
it should be a painting of Harold.
Yes. Yes, indeed.
Now, I don't know much about Barbara Shelly, really
shamefully. What do you mean?
Obviously? She, you know, she's very
popular actress Village of the Damned Dracula Prince of
Darkness and the like, but do you know her from any particular
films or television? Whilst he was a huge name in
horror films, rather than 40 comedy.
And had, as you said, did a bunch of films of hammer during
the 60s, the Gorgon Dracula Prince of Darkness, quite a mess
in the pit postman's. Knock is a weird sort of
aberration in her career because she done several major movies
already. She was in Village of the Damned
But now she's in this very light comedy in quite a thankless role
and it's it seems like a very backward step.
Maybe she was under contract maybe she does, maybe she wants
to work with Spike Dudley Maybe Spike wanted to work with her.
Yeah. But she doesn't have a lot to do
really, does she know. There is some character
development for her during the course of the story.
But there's, I mean, the fact that she's never given a name is
pretty indicative of how sloppily she's treated in my
notes. I've just referred to her as
artists. Yeah.
Because I didn't know what else to call her.
Yeah, well, she isn't. She's an art student and Harold.
First sees her at the train station, as he arrives into
London. She's painting.
She's on the platform. Painting, isn't she?
The film begins. So we see this.
The chart will talk through the rest of the cast as we come to
them. We see this little Charming,
little rural Village. That we come to know as up a
friendly and you have the early morning train with the mail on
it and it blows its whistle in a, presumably pre-arranged
fashion and it Rouses Postman Harold pets from his Slumbers
and he leapt out of bed, run to the window and blows a bugle in
response. And then he gets dressed in this
very kind of, I die. The way he gets dressed made me
think I wonder if Nick park ever saw this film because it made me
think it's something. I don't wanna see grommet.
He's got this. He's got the, the, to the two
hooks that he hooks his nightshirt.
The sleeves of his nightshirt on to, and Paul's myself out of it.
And yeah, and it's in a single motion, pulls his trousers under
from, under the out, from under the mattress.
And puts them all. Yes, that's it.
Where they've been pressing overnight and then he Pelts down
the stairs as mum's waiting with a sandwich for breakfast or a
piece of toast and he's on his bike.
And he takes delivery from the train moving train of a large
second male. And then he proceeds to make his
morning deliveries and it's clear that the villagers are
very, very fond of Harold. He arrives home and he delivers
himself a letter, From from the mr.
Fordyce and he's been offered a job down in that London.
I couldn't quite tell what it looks like that.
It's pretty much he has to, he has to leave for London that
very same day. Did you get that impression?
Yes. I mean it there could have been
a single couple of words of dialogue to say.
Oh, I have to go there next week.
Yeah, but no, it does look like he's going that day with no
postal service tomorrow. Apparently.
Yes. Yeah.
Who's going to replace him? And it looks like the whole
village has turned out to see him off at the station and
including a very tardy Mario for breed.
See, it doesn't have time to read the speech that he prepared
and it's always a good film. You always know that you're
watching a good black and white British comedy film.
When you see the very familiar mustaches of Mario, for Britt,
see who sadly died. Soon after this film came out,
actually. Oh yeah, so Harold arrives in
London and as I say, He sees as you call it artist on the
platform painting and Harold obviously is lacking.
The, he likes the social graces and he's ignorant of how, how
one should conduct oneself in the nation's capital?
In other words, never make eye contact with with anybody.
I actually I was writing my notes all the way through
watching this film, everyone has bloody rude in London.
As far as this film is concerned, anyway.
Well that's it's a reflection on.
I think what the audience wants to see everyone in the
countryside is all nice and lovely and all coming to have a
cup of tea and a slice of cake and everyone in the city wants
to mug you and steal your trousers.
And is is mean and horrible, all the time.
And then we have some business on the platform, which kind of
showcases Harold is being a very efficient and fast working.
Postman, got mail being loaded onto a train and unloaded.
I wasn't quite sure. But, there's some, some Malarkey
with, with some mail being driven off, by half a mother,
who's always a way. Well, has he always a welcome
face in British films? I'm not quite sure if he is well
given what? We now know about his personal
life. Possibly?
Not. Yeah, yeah.
But he's a good choice for that character.
This is this the the, the one round type Meathead.
Yeah, and he does get one really great line of dialogue later.
A child, which I think is worth noting.
Yeah, he's never, he's always out of my league.
He's not he's not he's not an actor with tremendous range but
he is trying to make off with some mail on a trip, on a
trolley, there's a Chase you're doing with our mail.
It's not your mail sir. It's is maily dropped it.
It's not a postback wears them here.
We just unloaded. What's the trouble here?
Mayor robbery we caught this one red-handed.
No no no you got it all wrong. Wrong.
I'm one of them. I'm a postman.
I just been transferred here. You look, I got a letter.
They're here. Is this what All the Troubles
about where'd you get that post Bay Watch, he's one of them.
One of what I'm an art student, I wouldn't be surprised.
That's my grandfather's bag. He was in the post office, you
know, and my father. All right, but there's some
confusion because Harold's all and involved in this unwittingly
and so comfortable. Summoned.
And it's John Wood. John Wood CBE.
Very fine actor. Do you recognize him from
anything? Yes.
Wasn't he in your eyes? Only as Denis Thatcher.
Was that not John H, John not Jones.
John Wells, John. Well, yes, I'm always getting
the two confused. Yes.
Well, there's Jon Burge on Wells and John Fortune.
I always get those three confused with John Wood is.
Maybe I'd love to design DB page, its massive and he was
much more. It was a huge theater actor and
funny enough interestingly for this podcast, he was Peter
Ursula's understudy in brouhaha, in 1958 59, he, but he made it a
lot of early TV, a lot of TV, he was Barnaby rudge in a early 60s
TV adaptation. He was also in Invasion quartet
with Spike just before this, and he made loads of films,
including leave or not, Jumpin Jack Flash in the 80s.
I'm just I'm just looking at his later filmography.
I mean Jumping Jack Flash ties in nicely because that was
another Whoopi Goldberg vehicle like the telephone and one of
his last film roles was the film of the Avengers, which was the
very first recorded edition of my podcast.
It's the is that the hang on. Is that the won?
Both the one base top. Yes the ray finds John Steed and
mrs. Peel one.
Yeah. In which he plays a tailor,
you're right. Okay, yeah.
See I I'd ever I don't recognize him from anything but he's look.
You look at us. Just look at his IMDb.
Massive but is not one of those faces that I wreck I instantly
recognized is very tall. Quite lanky, isn't it?
Yes. It's his name is Got the actors,
John would ya? John would but he's playing PC
Woods. And later on, we've got Wilfred
loss and playing a postman called Postman Lawson.
Not a lot of thought went into the names and they didn't even
give Barbara Shelly one, God's sake, actually.
There's one other thing that's worth noting is that wood was in
the film war games in 1983. The, the nuclear war Thriller.
Yeah, and his character was originally, to have been played
by John Lennon. What should the designer of the
supercomputer? We then retires because he wants
peace. That character was serving
played by John Lennon but he was killed when the script was being
developed I went it was eventually released it that
character was played by John Wood.
That's incredible. Okay. so, We see, we see Mallard
turn up at some Rendezvous meets up with the rest of the gang
that he's in. And and the gang is a typically,
hopeless and helpless as is the rule in black and white British
comedies around this time. They feel like they've escaped
from a children's film Foundation production.
Yes they do they do. Yeah, they embody ineptitude
stupidity clumsiness and you've got, you've got Warren me.
The four humors, don't worry. Mitchell is Rupert, which I
thought was quite an odd name. For a rubber Lads, Percival
didn't get his name and John Bennett and John Bennett.
You talk about IMDb entries. My God.
He's been in everything and I think he's probably best known
that he was. He was in like a Funny Thing
Happened on the Way to the Forum, how strip blood 11 Doctor
Who's I believe. Give my regards to Broad Street
getting back to the Beatles connection, mowbray, didn't
remember mowbray. That's sick.
I do. Yes.
Yeah, he's in the pianist with you, man.
What's the name Agent? Brody.
Yeah. And Minority Report but I
noticed that he was listed as the medical officer in porridge
and I'm thinking it's probably that famous scene We do.
Ya get. Yes, that's him.
Suffer from any illness. Bad faith has bad feet.
But a recent visit, your doctor or Hospital?
Anyone, we both feet. Are you now?
Have your anytime been a practicing homosexual?
What Woody's feet. Yes.
So we've got these four who make up the comedy gang.
I autocorrects you at, sorry. At the, the Doctor Who fan
patented me has come out. You said he was in the Eleventh
Doctor, Who's he was an eleven episodes?
Of two different cereals. All right, he played at Witch
Doctors, he played a corrupt General as part of a conspiracy
up with Jon Pertwee and then opposite.
Tom Baker, he played a Chinese stage magician in full in full
yellow face makeup, which remains very controversial, but
his performances a bit more thoughtful and complex than you
might have expected. Acted, but it's still not great.
And, of course, as I said before, in a few weeks time, we
will be discussing the fiendish plot of dr.
Fu-manchu. Well, if you can think of a way
that that film is in any way. Acceptable, I will send you a
book token, when you have to listen to the episode, then at
the police station. Meanwhile, the inspector refuses
to believe that Harold is a postman or for that matter that
the artist is an art student and Harold and His father and his
grandfather were Postman and we said, well, we actually earlier
saw some mocked up pictures on Harold's mums front parlor, wool
of Spike made up to be pets. Senior and pets, even more
senior as as post people and mr. Fordyce arrives from the post
office right now. Have you ever met or heard of
anyone called Fordyce outside of British comedy?
Pre-1980. Oh no, no.
It's like like Grimm's Dale. Yeah that one's actually called
that know. So, mr.
Ford ice is played by Ronald Adam.
Just you see him? And you think oh, that guy being
so many things but his as obviously was a character actor,
but he supposedly, Was shot down by the Red Baron in World War
one. Did you know that I did not?
That's quite a claim to fame. Hmm.
Yeah. But yeah, I mean, he's lots of
feel. He's been a lot of films with
goons, he was in heavens above count and brown of the fo naked
truth Helter Skelter. That had hairy seat early Rock
early role for Harry seek him and that and song of Norway with
Harry and he was in carry on Admiral which Is famous for what
reason? It's not a carry on film.
Exactly what was that. Was that two or three years
before? Sergeant, I think so.
Yeah about that, I think. So he vouchers, he arrives at
the police station, vouchers for Harold and the inspector
grudgingly releases Harold and Gene and there's reference made
to the mold and gang. And I immediately assumed that
the mold and gang was Warren Mitchell and his mates but turns
out Out not to be Harold's out on the street.
And he has to find some digs and he asked Gina, she can help and
she directs him to the nearest Tube Station.
And then, after taking the best best part of an afternoon to
cross the road, a busy road, that's what it's like in the Big
Town, you know. Yeah, it'd be the eventually
manages to cross the road and find the tube station while he
gets hit by a mini. First and that would stack comes
back as a gag later of him, being hit by another Mini.
Yeah. And and, and we just hear it off
screen. And then we cut back and he's
sprawled across the Bonnet and roof and hits upon the idea of
using a blind man as a kind of Shield buffer and I got the
impression that the blind man just grabbed him and then
launched at both of them across the street.
Presumably above the logic that if you can't see the traffic,
then it can't see you or the other way around.
Yeah. The Chief Inspector back at the
police station. He isn't buying this innocent
Postman story. So he assigns PC Woods to would
you call it? Active detail.
He tells him to follow Harold and Report available regularly
surveillance. Yes, valence.
And then we see Spike, we have quite a bit of business on the
tube at the tube station with people being crammed in like
sardines and a an obscene brief scene where Harold's convinced
that one of his fellow passengers has done a wheel as
trouser leg and it's a vicar as well.
Of course, it is. Yeah.
And they also a bomb Point Rises up through the beard of an
orthodox priest. It's funny that you say that the
other than the actual see. Well, that's what they do, Sagat
allowed. It sounds very Guna shhhh, I
think, but only if you see it and think, okay, mmm and Harold
is just getting sort of shuttled shuffled, pushed pulled, and
ends up going full, circle ends up back at the tube station that
he began. And I notice that one point, we
see a poster on on a platform wall, for the Magnificent Seven
playing at the London Pavilion, because filming for this film
began in, May 1961, which was a month after that film was
released in the UK. Yeah, it's always a good idea to
remind the audience of other better films and Lauren
Mitchell's gang read about the business at the train station in
the newspaper and in the newspapers.
Ori the speculation that the botched robbery may have been
the work of the mold in gang and Roop.
It thinks that Harold must be involved with the mold and gang
and so tells our formula to follow him.
So we have obviously PC Woods. and now awesome, a lot trailing
Herald around, London, around London, Miss No, it's me the
postman I know. Am I glad I found you?
You sure there's a station called windlesham row.
You mean you haven't found it yet?
No. I've been on the Underground to
bread. Way, ever since I last saw you
look Postman. Try and make your way through
life, without me. Hmm, good night.
But miss I I haven't got anywhere to sleep tonight.
Come on. What come on?
I'm going to regret this I word. I'm certainly glad I met you
Jean walks past and reluctantly agrees to the two little dots
down at her flat for the night. And then PC Woods puts two and
two together because he's followed them and eat phones as
Inspector and says the postman and the girl live at the same
address and the inspectors delighted by this because it
supports his holy flimsy theory that there's That there's some
sort of villainy of foot and then PC, would spend the whole
night, since sat outside the flat near the bins.
Well, that's on their way. There's a sequence.
I rather like, where they walk past the Gene and Terrell, what,
past the front door of one of the other people who live in the
building, Where the bread and the milk are piling up.
And Harold asks about whoever might be in there, but Gene
doesn't know them. And he's astonished that you
wouldn't know who your neighbors are and you you turn a blind eye
when they might be in trouble. Well, yeah, because he's come
from such a close-knit, little community.
It's completely alien to him that you wouldn't know everybody
that lives within a mile of your facility within screaming
distance. Yeah.
Okay. So the next morning, He arrives
at the postal Depo, the post office, bright and early.
How did he find it? Bearing in mind, he couldn't, he
couldn't find his well, he couldn't find his ass in his
underpants. Let alone write the tube.
How do you manage so quickly and efficiently to find the the post
office? But anyway, we'll let that slide
in supposed money has postal senses.
Yes, you can, you can smell the sellotape, smell the sellotape.
The stamps. He reports for Duty, and we get
some physical Comedy with a conveyor belt.
I like that, I like that. When he's sleeping on the
conveyor belt is using a parcel as a pillow, but everyone is
rude and nobody notices anything that's something else.
I wrote down throughout this film.
Well, it's the, it's the kind of the robotic machine element that
the people are just a machine parts within this system, and
they're not looking at things individually as Kind caring
Countryside postal workers would, there is that and Harold
goes out in this first first round with Wilfred Lawson, and
he's assigned an incredibly modern looking block of flats
for the time and I imagine that those Flats probably aged very
badly over the following decade. Yeah.
They look as that they look like they're patient zero of sick.
Building syndrome. Hmm.
And we have this Midi sequence with automatic doors which maybe
we're not a novelty for 1961. I don't know, I think so it's a
shame because the the whole scene of Harold fiddling around
with the infrared eye. There's potential there for.
I think some interesting goon ish type humor but it's really
just thrown away with Dull Antics and arm waving really.
Yeah, I've never really watched Norman, Wisdom films would
Norman Wisdom of done. It better.
I'm sure he probably would have done.
I think he would have taken it to it, more naturally, because
that kind of more lightweight material.
I think is, is more his, his key Milligan, it just doesn't fit
with the the type of Comedy, he's, he's used to and that he's
had such expertise. For it seems it seems too much
like a waste of ability and a waste of talent.
They have a great mind like his doing these other ones, say
lowbrow lower quality material. This does seem like it's a waste
of his talent. And we have a showdown with a
typically large matronly looking cleaning lady charlady.
What it, why is it in these these films of this period that
ladies of that type? Shall we say of that of that
build are always portrayed as scowling harridans, who want to
do real damage to our hapless hero or Heroes?
What was that mothers-in-law mothers-in-law?
Yes, Wow, maybe we should go into it psychologically and it's
male, fear of female power. It's not that kind of podcast.
And we see the most powerful vacuum cleaner in Christendom
trying to suck up Harold's letters and almost empty taters.
And at one point there's a bit where he's walking along the
corridor posting letters through.
Let us lat and one door. As the slot on its side and we
get a comedy Chinese musical sting.
Why is that? I didn't get that.
I think it's the idea like because rather than being
Horizontal like that are normal, Western not a slots.
It's it's like an I think in terms of eyes may be okay.
I mean it's either. I don't know.
Maybe they don't 1962 rolling in the aisles at that loss is
waiting outside, impatiently for Harold to finish his round.
But how how go try to get back into the building but an
engineer's fixing. The automatic door, Howell
brains himself on the glass and he falls backwards.
All of a heap on the ground and the engineer said of just
glances at him in doesn't care. Because as I say, nobody notices
anything and nobody gives a toss Engineers grandson.
Now works in it, and has exactly the same attitude.
We see a dog at one point. A dog runs off with some
letters, Jack, Trevor, story mindful of the old comedy
writers, Maxim that audiences love a cheeky, dog.
Of course, and later we hear that there's been some
complaints to the post office that a dog was delivering
letters. So that was quite sweet.
I don't, I wouldn't have complained about.
I would have found a Charming novelty and the other people
complain about anything. Oh yeah I mean, yeah, in the big
city I mean These, there's trees the wrong color.
I mean, typical. Hmm.
This has been going on for what 45 minutes, something like that
bit of character development, but not much and then we get
some plot. Ya?
Betta, watch it. No trace of the mold and gang.
Nothing. Nothing nothing.
But I'm sitting in a coffee bar, even a cup of tea and you know,
what? And how to pay for it.
When I hear on the radio, a bank of England, a calling into
million, I'll pan out Burning and a post office and a real
wiser and Lena stuff. The post office.
Post office. The post 2 million is going
through it, so that's what the mold and going was after.
Yeah, yeah. But we're going to get there
first. We're going to do it properly
this time with finesse e, he both Harold bumps into our
thermal load in the street as it's all I know you don't, I And
he replies are no, that was someone else.
I'm French au revoir. Yes.
And that was the bit that I thought.
Was that funny? That was what I wrote down
didn't he say auf wiedersehen later on as well.
Yeah, he does again again, no accident.
But art student comes home and reaches for her neighbors, milk
and bread as though Harold influence of Of more Village.
Goodness is rubbing off on her. Yeah.
She reaches for it then she changes her mind, doesn't she?
Yeah. Just want to break the code of
ignoring everyone around you being a pig, ignorant Londoner.
Yeah, I lived in London for 20 years.
I'm quite pleased to leave that sort of environment behind
Harold sleeps through his alarm and is five hours late for work
and Rupert's. Gang are on a tour of the post
office. This is where we have the, the
mechanized letter sorter, which apparently cost 150,000 pounds.
Now, I didn't check the inflation calculator, but I
imagine 150,000 pounds in 1961. It's probably about 18 million
pounds. Now allow me to check. 2.6
million. I think I was at all.
No thank you sir. That's entirely plausible than
but Harold is racing the mechanized letter sorta and
manages to beat it and it short circuits and other and the
watching tourists all applaud. Yeah.
But of course the philosophy of the post office is the
elimination of the human element in favor of mechanized industry.
And by destroying the mechanized sorter Harold has struck a blow
against that philosophy or at least that's what the chairman
of the post office. Bob, Todd tells Harold and then
suggest that Harold should see a psychiatrist.
And by the way, Bob, Todd looking very Suave.
Oh yeah. Usually so.
I mean Robert Todd almost hmm, the an art student Jean isn't.
There's an art school exhibition and an art critic, who thinks
he's the absolute shiz is examining her paintings.
And he's being a totally patronising arse and I wrote
down what he said, he said my dear young lady.
I can't help myself. I must be frank take to
matrimony motherhood, something which requires neither mental
effort or Education, take a job, sell some stockings, stick to
the simple things in life, despite this he somehow manages
to avoid a swift knee to the spuds, how I was really shocked,
but I watched it for the first time.
Yeah, how cruel he is? Yeah, I mean, he was lucky to
leave that room alive but she, yeah.
But she didn't even seem bothered by that.
She was upset because he didn't like a painting.
She's got some, she wasn't upset by the misogyny, by the
chauvinism. It was a polling.
Hmm. The chairman Bob, Todd has
suggested that Harold see a psychiatrist.
I don't quite know why, maybe they're hoping that they can get
Harold invalided out of the postal service and be because
he's if he's better than the machines and he's too much of an
embarrassment but they do say at one point that they can't fire
him because he's a civil servant.
Yes. And the psychiatrist is Miles
Matheson, who was the George Clooney?
Uni of 1950s British Cinema. I think it's fair to say he lost
his looks somewhat by the 60s but you stood still a very
striking looking man and and he hides in the closet to observe
Harold who comes into his office and lickety-split solves, all
these puzzle tests that are on the tables.
So what the, what they're trying, what the film is trying
to tell us is that Harold is some sort of What's the most the
phrase? Jeremy is an idiot savant.
I think that I think that's the one.
You mean? But the way the film portrays
him as he's he's just a simple country lad.
He's very good at puzzles. And it's he's better than the
city types that everything. And that is shown by her being a
genius because the script doesn't really know how else to
have him best them. I think we are.
But he then for some reason the psychiatrist, I don't know why
the psychiatrist is setting him. This district superintendent
test because Harold passes with the highest results ever
recorded. And he and he knows all these
answers off the top of his head, like the postage rates to
Afghanistan, and yes, which they wouldn't have had to in up a
friendly. They wouldn't have to send
parcel post a cobble. He thought I'd like to ask you a
few more questions. Question seemed rather more
elusive now. Oh, I'm so sorry.
So my here they are. I tend to that later.
Now, Postman Audrey grade, what is the parcel rate to
Afghanistan? The first Last Mile?
Segment announced second last my old serpent announced are my old
still announced all of the best snipers announce.
Yeah, that's that's correct. Try this.
This great post but I push bag containing 35 Parcels ways 54
pounds. If two-thirds of Two Parcels
weigh twice as much as 3/8 of the parcels.
How much will 10 of the passageway 18 pounds?
Goodness gracious. They tip up.
That's right. Let's quickly.
As you say, Bob, Todd and his minions debate.
What to do about Harold, the can't fire him because his civil
servants. So they decided to put him where
he can cause no trouble. So he's assigned to the parcel,
sorting section, which if you ask me, there is trouble
inherent in the idea of a parcel, sorting section, big
bulky packages and and the like, but again, he is very, very
fast, very Swift. You babe.
Keep that he does all the sort of himself all the other sort of
the system stand and watch. Yeah open mouth.
And Jane decides she needs a job because she can't cut it as an
artist. She can't make it as an artist
and Harold says, he'll get her a job at the post office and he's
only been here. What?
Two days. He's thinks he's got that
influence. But anyway, Woods who's
listening outside the door dressed?
As a guy was a gas man and an electricity meter reader, he
hears he hears them talking But he only, he is certain phrases
such as big job at the post office and he misconstrues that
to mean a robbery at the post office and he calls it in.
But we have this little bit of little slightly sweet.
Little moment between the art student and the postman.
And as we said earlier, he tells her his name, but keeps calling
her Miss and then we're really into the last Edge of the film
with the police. Escort transporting.
Please escort Trend following. This van transporting two
million pounds of notes to the post office.
We have had a, we have had a dune hyper-verbal joke when
Woods phones in his report and he's told our you'll get
promotion to Constable for this. Oh, thank you.
Thank you, sir. I'm already a constable and
Rupert and his gang of like, they've, they've Consolidated or
teamed up with another gang. Including a gentleman.
He talks quite Posh and they're they're going to pull resources
and they're going to knock out Postman all over London.
So they can poses them at the post office and try and fill ch2
this two million pounds. And of course as is the way of
these films, there's a police detail disguises Postman also
dispatched to the post office. And I guess rather than spoil my
quarter of an hour of slapstick gold, which there's a Chase and
people being knocked out. There's an awful lot of antics.
Antics. That's the word.
Yes, but everything. Everything is tied up with a
neat little bow. The superintendent the inspector
is happy because some however the mold and gang have been
quite unaccountably seized in Brighton and somehow he gets the
credit for that. I don't know why but PC Woods
are still The house in on something and how would save the
day. And there must have been a
passage of time because we next see Howard and Jean living back
in Upper friendly and I guess he's now postmaster or something
and she's designing cards and woods is there still spying on
them and the film ends with him getting a horn up his ass, from
a bull. yes, it's it's a very disappointing film.
I think there's so much potential with the, the central
idea. I mean, I mentioned Jack
Daugherty earlier. Have you seen any of his work?
Monsieur hulot is holiday. I've possibly his best film but
his first feature was Jour. De fête Festival day in which he
plays the postman in a little Country Village who sees a film
about the American Postal Service which is this.
The credibly over-exaggerated a paramilitary operation with no
parachutists and Beach Landings and everything.
And he decides to try and emulate that and go for
increased efficiency and In completing his round.
That's right. Nick Pete pace.
And it's full of visual gags and verbal humor.
And it seems like a really clear inspiration for this. but, That
only works if you have a mind as gifted as Patties or Milligan's
driving the whole production. Hmm.
Instead you have Milligan really being just an actor.
And if and so rather than Jacques tati, it feels too much
like later, Laurel and Hardy, where they were just hired as
actors and stand. There all had no creative input
into the scripts at all, and those films are gruesome to
watch. This isn't quite that bad at
all. K, is at one of them.
I've never been able to bring myself to watch at all K.
I've heard of it. I've never seen it.
They made half a dozen films. The 20th Century Fox during the
40s after they left, Hal roach. And those films are pretty bad
at all K. Apparently is just too
depressing of seeing these two very ill old men.
Going through the motions in this terrible poorly written
script. Yeah, yeah, I think Mulligan is
much more of a clown. He, he can do these very big
buzz, like the big eyes, and the, the miming and the, the
visual slapstick, he can make something out of that.
I think, but he doesn't have the the control or the authority
over. This is a project.
So now to lean into that, he's just being pigeon-holed as the
light comic lead. I mean, I'm amazed that he
doesn't get to do a salt. Well, he does kind of because
the think the best thing about this film is the theme tune.
I think the beginning and the res of course, which I
absolutely loved and there was released as a single.
I've listened to it often over the years and I think it's
Charming little piece. Yeah but I think with the film
it's I think Spike probably found while he was making it he
probably thought it was a load of rubbish.
I would imagine he would have but he was thinking well if it
gets me Fame and Fortune and you know further Up up the the Run
of success, then, so be it. But if it's heart isn't really
in it because, you know, he's not really involved with the
writing or direction or anything like that.
Then maybe that's why maybe if he'd been more involved as as in
the Goon shows, although their audio obviously, you know, he
gives a much more powerful performance intercooler shows.
Then he does in this, if he'd been given some of the story
out, I don't know early draft. The script and asked to just
tailor it for his own style of Comedy, I think it would have
worked a lot better. It would have had the spine of a
traditional healing type comedy, but it could have been filled
with the more Milligan humor that would be fresher and more
original and really mark it out of something quite different
instead. It's it's just another another
piece on the production line? Yeah, I just want to say,
Mention a theme Chone. Now Herbert kretzmann actually
wrote the lyrics for the postman's.
Knock is theme. Tune, have you heard of it?
Grandma, the name rings a bell. I'm sure you can enlighten me.
Okay. So he, he was a good friend
actually of Peter Sellers, but also spiked and he interviewed
spike a couple of weeks for the Daily Express, a couple of weeks
after postman's knock. Knock was released, I think the
film more or less sank without trace.
It didn't really do any business, but he interviewed
Spike for the newspaper and I just want to share some extracts
if you don't mind because it's quite really, he meaning
Milligan. He is against everything and
everybody, he announces, I hate the human race.
I am unemployed says mr. Milligan, nobody wants me.
The television doesn't want me. The BBC doesn't want me.
I have become little more than a nuisance to the cowards.
In idiots who run the BBC to hell with them?
Let's hope Herbert kretzmann. Clearly cool.
Spike on one of his good days, the Carries On mr.
Milligan is widely recognized and venerated as a comic genius
but he insists I'm basically the unfunniest person in the world.
But such conscious martyrdom has no real basis.
In fact, in any other terms than his own Spike, Milligan is a
success last year he starred in to MGM films Invasion, quartet
and postman's knock. He bought out a long playing
record called Milligan preserved and a book of Dustbin of
Milligan which became one of the country's best sellers.
His tenure. As radio.
Compare of Children's. Choice was a runaway Triumph.
Milligan appeared in the mermaid theater production of Treasure
Island. He also found time to write a
novel. And a play.
Yet Milligan insists on seeing 1961 as a disastrous year, which
saw him tottering on the edge of bankruptcy.
He says, I don't work anymore, I'm living on the cash, I've
saved. So I just thought that was very
revealing because, you know, he's as kretzmann sets out
there, he's been incredibly busy and Successful, not always not
with the film's. Maybe but he's been busy.
And he's been making money, but he still sees himself as a
failure, who's more or less penniless?
I think a lot of that might well be the disorder talking.
Oh I know. Absolutely I know.
But yeah if it'd gone the next day and interviewed him it might
have been something completely different and completely
different Milligan. I thought I I knew that Kretz
first name rang a bell and I've looked it up.
He was The Lyricist for the english-language version of Les
Miserables. Oh blimey.
Okay. Well his, yeah because he's a
he, if you read the want to lose, Lewis book about sellers,
he crops up quite a lot kretschmer.
And remember, there's a story in there and let me just try and I
might edit the spit out, there's a story.
He in the Roger, Lewis book about kretzmann has been invited
to Peter. Sellers as London, flat one
evening for what sellers promises to be like a really
magnificent properly authentic Dean dinner party, okay, and
invite Spike as well. So spikes there as well.
And I don't know, I'm guessing this must be sort of mid 60's,
something like that. So Kretz memorize spikes there,
Peter's really distant and distracted, okay?
As is his as this is way but they're sort of there they sit
around this big table in there, waiting for the.
There's no there's no there's no Cutlery, there's no wine.
There's nothing on the table. Just like a glass table I think
and then there's a knock on the door and a takeaway driver
delivers, a mass of curries in in foil trays as you would, you
know, as you would get today. Yeah.
And sellers basically had them spread out on this large table
and got some plastic forks and the guests just had to eat out
of the trays with forks. As I don't know, Winery to go
out there and, and sellers wasn't even sat at the table.
He was over at the record player sticking on and then taking off
LPS and, and then staring thrust.
A telescope, which is got directed A Big Ben, I think.
Okay, and completely ignoring his kists.
So it's a real sort of bit of a disaster as far as dinner
parties go. But the next day, Crepes mer, I
guess felt obliged to telephone cell.
And thank him for the night before and since sellers sellers
says something like, yes, it's nice.
You have to make an effort. Sometimes to entertain one's
friends and give them good food and conversation which is just
yes. I wonder if he could imagine
what that might be like. I would have given anything to
have been at that dinner party for all that, you know.
I mean, yeah the atmosphere. I mean, it sounds like it would
have been a prank. Maybe, I mean it's hard to know
because it with sellers being the way he was it could have
been completely sincere and I'm just not comprehending.
What was wrong with what he was doing?
Yeah yeah yeah. And I wonder who if it was the
mid 60's, he was with Britt so I wonder where she was while all
this was going on but so Final thoughts.
Conclusions on postman's knock, it's it's not awful it's fine on
its own terms. It's just there's so much
potential there and I feel like I've said this several times,
there's so much potential to do something with a performer like
spikes on with a very specific style.
Someone with a very original unusual, sense of humor.
And you could have done a lot with the idea of a figure like
that in the Postal Service. I'm sure they've done post based
episodes of the Goon show. They have, yes.
And it's just thrown away on something light and disposable.
They could have made the effort to create a new comedy star in
the movies. And instead they just tried to
force him into a pre-existing shape, and it didn't work.
And it just seems such a waste. Yeah.
Well, I often think what, because I watch a lot of old
movies as I'm sure you do. I know you do and low.
His films of around this period, late 50s into the 60s.
The last act would often culminate in a either car chase
or just a Chase of some description as we get in this
which is which is just lazy. I think the lazy way of rounding
out a film If you can do something original with it, if
you can find a an original angle or if you're doing it in a
comedy, then you can work out some original gags to do then.
That's fine. I think I mean a cliches work
for a reason and I think figuring out how to make them
work in a fresh unusual. Way is often the secret to good
writing and good joke writing. Mmm.
But when it's, when it's crowbarred in, but yeah, but
when it's, when it feels like that situation arises naturally
out of the story, so it doesn't feel forced in and of itself.
But you're right in that it just feels like this is just the same
that we see before. It's just wrote formula
material. Mmm.
And yes, so it was with the exception of the great McDonald
boobs, the last starring vehicle on Always, at least for Spike.
But look at me. No one can say he didn't have a
fantastic career and it's such an influential, man and such a
great body of work. Well absolutely, I mean not
everyone is tremendously. Creative is going to be equally
successful in every Arena. I mean, how many jokes have
there been about? David Bowie's film career?
I quite like, I quite like absolute beginners.
Oh, I quite like, Merry Christmas, mr.
Lawrence but I mean, he also did the Linguini, incident and turn
down the villain role in A View to a Kill because he said, he
didn't want to spend six months, watching his stunt double
falling off cliffs, which great, he's great in the ellow did.
I haven't seen it. You've never seen you in a bit
now I haven't. He's got a, he's got a small
Cameo as a shark. Oh, yes, I don't do anything
about that. So yeah, that ties it all
together, really, doesn't it? Yeah, I posted, I was quite
proud of this. I posted a picture of screenshot
of Bowie, with his, as the shark from yellowbeard.
And I captioned it the Thin White Duke, that was quite
excellent. Hmm.
Anyway, let's move on from that. Jeremy, listen, thank you so
much for joining me today and if people want to Check out Cinema
limbo. We've already obviously touched
on it, but where is it? Where is it available?
It's available from usual, pod catchers, Google podcasts, Apple
podcasts a cast. We have a video feed as well
where I review every film that I see for the first time whether
it's a new release or something from the archive and that's
updated, maybe two or three times a week.
And I'm on Twitter at Cinema underscore Limburg.
Very good, very good. And you're not weekly, or even
monthly iuu. It's not as regular.
No, I mentioned earlier that I've moved out of London.
It's made of the bit harder to organize recordings because it's
how I can't be in the room. So the release rate has gone
down to once every four weeks moment, but I'm hopeful that I
might be able to increase that back to Fort likely in the near
future. Hopefully, I can come back and
do another one, some point. Well, after the mess you made of
the furniture last time I make no guarantees.
All right, Jeremy, thanks. Thanks again, mate.
And we will begin to. Thank you very much.
Bye. In the morning.