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What about this? 
Gasping. 

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Hey, president friend who's a 
Southland, gas Port, 3 pounds, 

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twelve Shillings and ninepence 
room. 

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Look, I'll tell you what. 
Go down to the basement, read 

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the meter and just make sure 
right come back goes. 

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That'll give us breathing space 
money. 

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I think how empty the room is 
without him? 

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Jump St. 
The content of Lucy's with tanks

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are attacking. 
We've got to evacuate by the 

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rents, much too high. 
Here pack the floor, will 

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leaving everything ceiling. 
The Cowardly swans. 

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I ran away. 
They're frightened of eel. 

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High neural. 
Aston Villa. 

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Hello and welcome to goon pod. 
This podcast in apple podcast is

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actually categorized as part of 
the TV & film category. 

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Even though it is actually 
mainly focused on a an old radio

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show. 
We do talk about films and TV of

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course. 
But anyway that's that's What 

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it's categorized as and it's not
to be confused with some 

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similarly named podcast such as 
bun pod which is devoted to the 

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1980s, Michael elphic, 
television show. 

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There's Moon pod which 
celebrates the character of 

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Alfie Moon from EastEnders 
played by Shane Richie. 

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Is he still in that? 
And is also the very confusing 

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Terry and June pod that I've 
really got no idea what they 

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wanted. 
About this week. 

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I have got all the way from 
Australia, wonderful podcaster, 

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who goes by the name of Jeffers,
and Jeffers is the host of The 

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Incredible podcast. 
Oh, cat flap, oh podcast. 

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And he and I had a fantastic 
conversation talking about a 

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particular goon show, which is 
very dear to his heart and I 

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hope you enjoy the chat. 
You don't know this but I've 

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been aware of your voice or 
where have you forgot. 

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It must be coming on for it a 
decade. 

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Maybe, because how long ago did 
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Yeah, that was dumb early 2010. 
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Right. 
Okay. 

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So I would have come across that
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2012, something like that 
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days as you probably know 
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Comedy like us, there was there 
was slim Pickins, and it came to

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podcasts that catered for our 
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That's certainly not the case 
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know. 
So I would sometimes, you know, 

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on iTunes, on search for 
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Blackadder or Steptoe, or 
goodies. 

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And I know that must have thrown
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and I listened, I member 
downloading All of the available

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ones at the time and just binge 
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a huge fan of. 
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goodies. 
I've kind of I still am but I 

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don't watch them so much these 
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I don't know why you're 
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Yes. 
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Grew up in New Zealand. 
The goodies were huge down 

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under. 
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Australia. 
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I mean, certainly not on 
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There's a few streaming services
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the goodies playing at the 
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But I mean because I've got them
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took a squillion years. 
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finally all got released on DVD.
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them on that it was youself and 
was it Jane was like, yeah yeah 

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my wife Jane. 
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Yeah. 
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Yeah. 
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Of love between you and J but 
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goodies. 
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In a way. 
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out, we are all raised on it. 
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it's the afternoon and the ABC 
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mean it constantly changed but 
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might get banana man and then 
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would lead up to Doctor Who. 
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Doctor Who fans in the UK are 
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just getting repeats and lessly 
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goodies and then that would just
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like years and what was years as
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Now, is that finished officially
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animation? 
Yeah, exactly. 

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Exactly. 
I'll throw out an episode every 

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now and again I mean so we had 
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actually got on. 
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something like that. 
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couple of years where we put our
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were going weekly and it's very 
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of weekly pace. 
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monthly and then it just 
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whenever yeah, yeah I'm hoping I
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I've had there's been a break on
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necessity but hoping that I can 
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the foreseeable at least as well
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dipped into sitcom Showdown, 
which is another podcast you do.

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Yeah, that one is more regular. 
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Mmm, I'll do that one with my 
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a way. 
I don't even consider it one of 

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my podcast because it's it was 
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And so, you know, we all just 
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bring in something and not tell 
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then you go away and watch it. 
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it afterwards. 
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reasons that doesn't work. 
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to actually saying, here's what 
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And so we just do a sit, a 
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Lots of fun at Great again while
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I had a lot of time to watch 
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downloaded on my laptop and all 
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And I would consider one of the 
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Comedy ever is the null and 
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in cat flap, okay? 
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that specifically, because 
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going strong with podcast ocad 
flap 0, which is a podcast, 

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which is dedicated to the the 
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In catflap television series, 
are that was superbly well 

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phrased. 
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Now it is, it is 
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sort of Sandwich to there, 
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ones and bottom and there's huge
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that really love those shows and
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flap is in the middle and people
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transition from one to the other
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against that for all sorts of 
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on that. 
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flaps so much and it is my 
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And it's my favorite, you know, 
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comedy of all time and trying to
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it's impossible, that might be a
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compared to, because I'd come 
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like, beautiful works by Robert 
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Particularly Ooh, Pixley who I 
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research. 
Every scrap of goodies 

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information, I could ever want, 
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And I guess in a way, if you're 
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fresh now, having never had it 
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You'd have a lot of information 
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beauty of cat flap is it? 
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research and I'm so hungry for 
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Every little scrap that I 
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amazing breakthrough and I'll 
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by things and It's like, you 
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moon in a way in that, I don't 
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to ask the BBC for the scripts, 
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And so when I get a script of 
cat flap and I can see how my 

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God in episode 2 that you were 
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bits cut out, and I look at the 
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I go, that is so exciting to 
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recorded this and cut it out 
where they've changed this line 

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and that line and yeah. 
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that's not been Searched in a 
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harder which makes life 
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know, the guys that did the 
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the process or they may have 
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Now we're in the process of 
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I think there's also what I know
there's another book about 

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bottom that's come out recently.
I do forgive me. 

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I forget who you very much. 
Simon Dunne. 

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Yeah. 
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apology a body. 
An examination. 

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That's right. 
I haven't picked that up. 

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That. 
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the other bottom book that's 
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sort of chapter dedicated to cat
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Yes, certainly in proctology. 
There's a bunch of pages on cat 

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flap, which is cool. 
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talking with Simon a little bit,
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messenger. 
But yeah, the talking bottom 

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podcast. 
That's I'd recommend people 

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check that out and that was a 
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I'd listen to it and I'd love 
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Us with cat flap. 
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me and I are back to the book 
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their crowdfunding for it and 
now we're waiting and they 

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released an update recently. 
So, you know, say we are working

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on this and we are getting it 
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good when it comes out. 
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course I do. 
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when it comes to Order of 
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and Aid Vehicles. 
If you like bottom is, number 

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one Cat flap is number two, 
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And I'm not going to say the 
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Number three. 
I'm going to say mr. 

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Jolly lives. 
Next door is number three. 

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Aha. 
Yeah, wow. 

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And you wouldn't be alone in 
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There's a lot of love out there 
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Jolly lives next door. 
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mr. 
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Next door was one of the was 
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You know. 
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do a proper. 
Plug for podcaster cat. 

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Flap out. 
The end Jeffers. 

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Her mother, who worries. 
Yeah. 

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So, first of all, can I ask you?
Can you give me a rough 

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indication of your age? 
When were you born? 

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Yeah, I'm very close to you. 
I think Tyler. 

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So I'm a 73. 
I was going to say kid, but far 

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from it. 
Geez. 

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So I'm actually going to be 50 
this year, right? 

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Okay. 
So your year older than me. 

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Cool. 
Okay. 

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And obvious question, how did 
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The goons, how did you discover 
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life? 
Because I mean the the brilliant

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thing about hearing your guest 
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someone who exposed them to the 
goons by playing the records at 

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home, you know. 
Maybe it was your mum or dad or 

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whatever but that wasn't the 
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And it was the mid-2000s. 
I'd going through this stage 

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where I had ABC Radio National 
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While I was sleeping, you know, 
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And it was Radio National 
because of course, they play a 

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lot of comedies and it's just 
people speaking in a very 

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soothing way and that sort of 
stuff and me and Jane have stuff

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running in the background at 
night softly in the background 

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there. 
And anyway at that stage we were

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getting through like tons of 
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I got and they had Larry Martin 
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Agreement with Jamie because she
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Wilfred hide why as number one 
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anyway, I bought these this to 
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domestic disturbances in your 
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close. 
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ministry on them and are then 
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signed photos of Richard Murdoch
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I've never actually heard one 
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So foiled by President, Fred was
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where Nettie's being unwrapped 
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by Moriarty and grit pipe. 
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the hell is going on, you know, 
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up and I started finding a tape 
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on and my recording. 
It began with greenslade. 

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Yeah, for idiots is a resume the
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Thank you. 
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gags and it was all this 
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crosses and plays on Words. 
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We'll get Later on and I'll fly 
bluebottle. 

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This must be the goons that I've
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Oh, so you didn't realize it was
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No. 
No maintain. 

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of deal. 
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the goons and then I try to 
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whatever. 
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even though it was the mid-2000s
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found a disk on eBay with all 
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at the time on there and that's 
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half of foiled by President 
Fred. 

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Okay. 
Okay. 

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So have you now listen to a lot 
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Yes. 
Yes I have. 

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Yeah, so when I got this disk 
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don't know where they got these 
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lot of them was absolutely 
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quality and stuff. 
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goons episodes, probably about 
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listen to and the others got 
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Then I'd edit them all and stuff
like this, and I know now 

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there's way better versions that
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you've got hit, oh God, I 
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candle and stuff. 
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word. 
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The versions are so much better 
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But I missed out on the whole, 
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earlier in life, you have the 
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how you see it of you go and get
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And then you listen to that 
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release patiently, and then you 
trade with people. 

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up on Twitter recently, that was
just brilliant. 

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I would trade videos of the 
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you've got this, I've got this. 
And then, you know, let's share 

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these and dadadada da. 
Yeah, it is a little bit sad. 

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I suppose you do miss that back 
in the day when there wasn't 

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stuff everywhere. 
When, you know, you can get 

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anything you want these days, 
pretty much, if it is, if it 

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exists somewhere, you can get 
it, you know? 

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And yeah, I do miss those days. 
When those days of linear 

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television, even you know what? 
I used to tape a weekly, 

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whatever sitcom it might be 
Blackadder Goes Forth. 

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For example, I was always 
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Days between each episode, you 
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episode and then you tape it and
then watch it over and over that

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week and then you've watched it 
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rolls around. 
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 

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Absolutely. 
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we're not because I discovered 
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know, I was 13, 14 and and at 
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because it was the end National 
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for the weekly. 
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week for And then gradually, you
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commercial release of the tapes 
and whatnot that the BBC put out

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and then I joined the dsps and 
was able to access their Archive

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of shows. 
So gradually, I am asked all the

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shows, but, yeah, for you, you 
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say, excess, everything in one 
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Although, yeah, pretty ropey 
copies, I guess, but at least, 

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you know, you've heard a good 
couple of dozen episodes and I 

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mean, The show? 
Absolutely. 

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No, I've heard them all. 
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mean president Fred's an 
example. 

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So I would do in 2015, I went 
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doing the goodies podcast I 
learned more about audio 

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editing. 
So then in 2015, I went through 

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all the original episodes that I
had on this disc, which is many,

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many, many dozens and I'd edit 
them and run, noise reduction, 

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and all that. 
And some of them were still so 

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bad that I couldn't listen to 
them. 

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But others that opened up a 
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me too. 
Into and then I did another 

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re-edit in 2020 after learning 
another five years worth of 

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things. 
And then the software would get 

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better and then, you know, you 
could fiddle with it a little 

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bit more. 
Yeah. 

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But I do have my play list of 
about 30 episodes that, you 

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know, they're in the high 
rotation and there would be 

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there would be some episodes 
that I'd probably heard ten 

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minutes of, you know, 15 years 
ago and haven't Revisited since 

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I suppose. 
In a way, I've got the joy ahead

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of me of. 
If I gone to the effort of 

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saying, what's the latest most 
brilliantly restored version, 

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there's probably so much more 
goons joy out there for me that 

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I could, you know, latch onto 
Tonight, at midnight, I waited 

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in a specially dark and go away 
for the coming of the stranger. 

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Who was to guide me on my 
perilous Mission. 

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I was so heavily disguised but 
not even my own mother would 

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have recognized me. 
Let we Scott with an electric 

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guitar plugged into the train 
line. 

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Nobodyís Regal. 
I am cool. 

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Good. 
You been waiting long? 

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Yes. 
Who for you? 

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You idiot. 
Boo now, hold on, how do I get 

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to the firing line to president 
threads headquarters? 

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How do you get? 
There you go. 

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Straight up that road birth. 
But the shooting down here, 

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don't go that way. 
You take this road here, they're

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not shooting up that one that 
road doesn't lead to war. 

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Don't take that one. 
Went on to BBC sounds as it 

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wasn't when I went on there and 
I'll got president Fred, you 

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know, the latest version and was
so much clearer and so much 

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nicer. 
And the B had been edited back 

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in which I think I've heard you 
on the podcast speak previously 

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about you know, when they take 
it from the various sources and 

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then put certain bits back in 
that have been cut out of some 

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versions. 
Yeah, that's right. 

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That's right because we're the 
thing about well let's get into 

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it mean filed by President Fred.
Is what we are focusing on today

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but it was released, it was like
before the BBC started putting 

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our LPS in sort of the early 
70s. 

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There was a handful of LPS 
issued by Emi with all the music

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material editor, doubt, so 
geldray and Allington edited out

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and Followed by President Fred 
was issued on an LP in October 

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1971 and the lp was called first
men on the Goon and it's got an 

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awful cover really bad go. 
Oh, and it was on the other 

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side, it was the episode Robin 
Hood. 

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But yeah the the episode that 
I've listened to now for the 

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purposes of research for this is
the fullest episode possible, 

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you know fully restored by by 
Ted candle and it's a great 

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show. 
I mean, it's probably as we kind

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of move talking before we 
started recording. 

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It's probably one of the most 
when it Tim in terms of plot is 

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one of the most complex copper 
plots for a goon show. 

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I would say I mean, I could, you
know, admit to still not knowing

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100% what on Earth was going on 
with the final few minutes 

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because there's so many 
double-cross. 

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I mean, we'll get to that 
obviously, but yeah, yes, it's a

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good one for that reason, it is 
and it's all before we get to 

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let me, let me just go like to 
give a little bit of context in 

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terms of the time that these 
shows go out. 

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So this this is foiled by 
President. 

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Fred is Series 6 episode 7. 
And it was broadcast. 

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First of November 1955, Now, I 
always like to look at what's 

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going on in the world in the 
news. 

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You know, the day that these 
shows go out, just just, it 

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feels feels a bad time Jeffers, 
to be honest here. 

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All right, now I'm looking 
forward to this. 

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Well, okay, so there was a lot 
of boring stuff going on 1st 

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November 1955, but this story, 
this new story did intrigue me. 

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Okay, so on that day, John 
Gilbert Graham. 

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Mm killed 44 people. 
Now so, yeah, I mean, that's 

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anything. 
Well, how can that be? 

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We did he go on a killing spree 
or something? 

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Know what he did? 
He planted a dynamite time? 

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Bomb. 
On an aircraft. 

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He planted it in his mother's 
suitcase because his mother was 

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going was flying on a, on a 
flight. 

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He wanted to murder her and 
claimed her life insurance 

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money, okay? 
So he put this bomb. 

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I don't know how he thought he 
would get away with it. 

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Okay, he put this dynamite time 
bomb in his mother's luggage. 

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She gets on this United. 
Airlines flight in Colorado 

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bomb, goes off all these people 
died, the police do their job, 

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he gets arrested charged 
convicted and sentenced to 

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death, and he's executed in 
early 1957. 

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He purchased the life-insurance 
policy for his mother, in the 

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actual Airport, terminal, just 
before she departed on playing. 

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Well, you crazy, isn't it? 
It is. 

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I mean, that's not a very bright
move. 

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Nah. 
Oh my goodness. 

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But yeah, I mean, that was, that
was the only sort of event of 

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significance that I could find 
for the first of November. 55 so

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Spike wrote the script on his 
own. 

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It was also as well as being 
issued on an LP. 

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As I say it was also published 
in the Goon show scripts book 

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the first book of scripts and 
the script the actual original 

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script. 
There are some additions or that

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the certainly some bits in the 
script that were not either 

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performed and not included in 
the final edit or they just 

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weren't recorded at all. 
And now welcome to those But I 

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always like to read the radio 
times synopsis when there is one

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regular listeners will know that
shows from Series 5 into Series 

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6. 
Almost always had a radio time 

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synopsis sometimes quite a 
lengthy one, as in this case and

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I've often sort of reflected or 
mused as to why the radio times 

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abandoned these synopses. 
And I do have the answer now as 

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a result of this show, okay. 
So here's the Synopsis to 

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poverty-stricken foreign Devils 
Senor grip, pipe thin and count 

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Moriarty skinned to the wide. 
A one day watching TV and their 

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chicken run in a king's cross 
back alley. 

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When Nettie Siegen arrives to 
empty, the gas meter, staggering

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under the weight of a sack 
bursting with coppers, he 

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foolishly accepts an offer to 
join them. 

451
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,000
In a quarter bottle of Maurice 
Punk's doped Applejack while 

452
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,600
still reeling from the effects 
of this vicious Carousel. 

453
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,800
He's introduced to Gladys knees.
Diaphanous spy and part-time 

454
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,900
Dust Woman Who induces him to 
sink further into the abyss 

455
00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:09,400
advice by partaking of a portion
of heavily loaded smoked. 

456
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,800
Haddock before he lapses into 
unconsciousness, he overhears 

457
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,000
the mysterious count. 
Jim booking reservations for 

458
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,200
South America and he realizes 
that. 

459
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,100
Once again, he's become enmeshed
in the plot to kidnap president 

460
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:25,000
Fred and relieve him of his 
historic portion of the 

461
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,400
international Christmas pudding.
Ha ha. 

462
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:36,800
So so terribly. 
Well a lot of them don't and I 

463
00:26:36,808 --> 00:26:39,200
think I would say most of them 
don't and it's like that. 

464
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:44,800
There's this elements, it's 
barely on nodding acquaintance 

465
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,700
with the actual show. 
Interesting at the dimension of 

466
00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:51,500
the international Christmas 
pudding which was a show which 

467
00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:58,000
turns up couple of shows after 
this and also more. 

468
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,300
Cruiser, this is a regular name.
Marie's pump turns up as a 

469
00:27:03,308 --> 00:27:08,100
character always referred to in 
Napoleon's piano and also a 

470
00:27:08,108 --> 00:27:13,200
think the episode, the secret 
escritoire from earlier, on in 

471
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,200
the series and also Morris Park 
or Maurice. 

472
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:25,200
Punk is features in the case of 
the mekinese battle on laid by I

473
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,900
think dick Emery By the way, 
just on that. 

474
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,400
When this episode is recorded 
Peter and spite, we're actually 

475
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,900
filming the case of the market 
is battle horn, drill, really 

476
00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:38,800
read. 
Yeah. 

477
00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:44,100
So obviously, you know, Spike 
has got the name, Maurice Punk, 

478
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,400
very much in mind. 
Rain was time. 

479
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,600
The reason, you know, this was 
the last ever radio Times shows 

480
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,600
synopsis. 
They dropped it after this 

481
00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:02,000
episode and the Appeared to be 
that was earlier on in the 

482
00:28:02,008 --> 00:28:06,500
series they had printed a 
synopsis for. 

483
00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:10,000
I think the fourth episode of 
Series 6, which was to be the 

484
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,500
sale of Manhattan episode. 
Ah, but Spike actually dropped 

485
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,500
cellular Manhattan script in 
favor of Napoleon's piano. 

486
00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:24,700
So the classic, the synopsis 
didn't match up with the actual 

487
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:27,900
show that went out that week and
a couple of shows. 

488
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:33,400
Is later the radio times did a 
synopsis for what was to be the 

489
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,500
terrible revenge of Fred Foo 
Manchu, and it was dropped in 

490
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:40,900
favor of Rommels. 
Treasure that way, okay? 

491
00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:42,700
Okay. 
Both the seller. 

492
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:46,900
Manhattan and Fred free Manchu. 
No did go out as proper shows, 

493
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,900
subsequently, but basically the 
radio times, were being 

494
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:55,800
wrong-footed by Spike terms of 
what shows were printed and what

495
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,600
shows actually went out. 
So they decided look, it's Just 

496
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:02,800
just to abandon it, I'd say so. 
And then, even if that hadn't 

497
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,300
happened, I think, you know, if 
they were getting fed accurate 

498
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,400
synopses of these things that 
this episode might have broken 

499
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,400
them anyway. 
But yeah. 

500
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,600
Well yeah that's the thing, the 
schnapps. 

501
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,100
He's just don't just don't match
up. 

502
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:19,400
Do they Spike having a little 
bit of devilment I suppose? 

503
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,200
So the show itself now. 
It's a very good show. 

504
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:27,900
It's not it's not one that I 
it's not to me, it's not gay. 

505
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,100
Big heavy. 
Particularly, I don't know if 

506
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:32,500
you agree, there's not a lot, I 
don't feel. 

507
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:34,800
There's not a huge amount for 
Harry seeking to do. 

508
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:39,200
There's no there's no big sort 
of barnstorming scenes for see 

509
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,000
goon. 
No, no, by the way, is 

510
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,000
introduced throughout as Nettie 
Siegen, but at one point 

511
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:50,300
introduces himself as Harry. 
Siegen that if you picked up on 

512
00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:52,600
that, I did not pick up on that 
know. 

513
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:57,700
And he does have a seeking, does
have a role sort of at the 

514
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:00,300
beginning. 
At the meeting of the southbound

515
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:05,600
gas board, he, he plays a 
character who I believe is more 

516
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,000
or less his his old Uncle Oscar 
character that he would 

517
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,800
occasionally play in a way. 
I was sort of so distracted by 

518
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,500
all the other, you know, great, 
B with all the other characters 

519
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:19,300
that it didn't occur to me, that
Natalie was sort of being 

520
00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:22,500
shortchanged in that way. 
I mean, you're quite right 

521
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:25,600
because people spend 90% of the 
episode trying to get rid of 

522
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,700
him. 
They just want to get him out of

523
00:30:26,708 --> 00:30:29,500
the room as quickly as possible.
Possible or send him somewhere 

524
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:31,900
else on a wild goose chase. 
Yeah. 

525
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,600
So yeah. 
No, you're right. 

526
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,600
But yeah, I would argue it's not
poorer for it but you know it's 

527
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,300
typical of what I'd say. 
It's you need Nettie. 

528
00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:43,100
So you go in and you need Harry 
cecum. 

529
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:46,800
Being that character. 
Maybe not all the time. 

530
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,700
Yeah, I'm not saying he's this 
up standing here who morally 

531
00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:54,600
upright, sort of chappie because
he'll do his cowardice and he'll

532
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,800
do the odd bit of manipulation 
and serving himself. 

533
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,300
And stuff like that. 
But I mean, compared to the 

534
00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:04,500
other characters, he is by 
comparison, a paragon of virtue 

535
00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:07,500
especially in this one, because 
he's just, you know, trying to 

536
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:10,200
do his job in a very 
straightforward and honest 

537
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,600
Manner, and he doesn't give up 
his work. 

538
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,900
Ethic is awesome. 
But no, I mean, is it wrong to 

539
00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:18,700
say that in spawn? 
Of course, you know, you had 

540
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:24,100
dick Amory and I love spawn. 
I mean, is that unusual in goons

541
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:27,600
fandom? 
No, I mean that generally Earth 

542
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,700
field. 
Is, I don't think anyone. 

543
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,600
I think the general consensus is
that any of the shows that 

544
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,200
didn't feature one or, well, one
of the goons, the actual goons, 

545
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,900
you know, a poorer for it, 
you're like, oh well, that's 

546
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:44,600
true. 
Yeah, I enjoyed all the same 

547
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:54,200
though, from morning classes, 
one evening in her park and I 

548
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:59,400
was brushing the grass of my 
knees when suddenly. 

549
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:00,900
Yes yes yes. 
Yes. 

550
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,400
Yeah, there's some smashing 
nurses are what? 

551
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:05,700
What? 
What? 

552
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:08,500
What happened? 
It removes, those evil, thoughts

553
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:13,300
from your mind to mine. 
Never, I can't get him free 

554
00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:16,600
under National hair and I must 
vote Labour. 

555
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,600
Next time there are red hot 
labor Forward. 

556
00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:28,500
So this is the label was he 
actually paid and quite a number

557
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:33,400
of Series 3 shows when Spike was
off ill which they don't exist 

558
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,200
anymore. 
Yeah. 

559
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,200
I mean, the episode isn't is not
announced as it's a great title 

560
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,000
for start foiled by President 
Fred. 

561
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,400
What a great title. 
Yeah yet it is it is announced 

562
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:52,300
as the title is officially. 
Just as in HonorBound, did you 

563
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:54,800
look into this at all? 
Now, I didn't did you. 

564
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,300
Yeah, I did. 
And, you know, there was no book

565
00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:01,100
called in on about, I mean, 
there was one in the 1990s. 

566
00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:04,300
Yes. 
Oh no, no famous films or books,

567
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:06,300
or even songs or anything like 
that. 

568
00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:10,600
I called in honor bound. 
So yeah, no no easy research 

569
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,300
references? 
No, I was too lazy to attempt my

570
00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:17,400
own research. 
But yes, I'm just wondering 

571
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,900
whether it was a A phrase in 
common usage at the time to do 

572
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:26,900
with diplomats or something. 
Not I'm not I'm not sure, but it

573
00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:36,400
obviously the, the premise was 
inspired by the queue that ended

574
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,400
the second presidential term of 
president, param in Argentina. 

575
00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:43,400
Yeah. 
Which which happened in 

576
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,900
September 55. 
I don't know. 

577
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,600
I mean, it's like everybody, I 
suppose the only thing, I really

578
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,700
know about you have not done my 
research again but anything most

579
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:56,300
people know about President 
parent is his wife. 

580
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,200
Yeah, Eva Eva Peron or Evita who
died three years earlier, some 

581
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,100
reason. 
For some reason, I thought she 

582
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:07,800
was, you know, she'd sort of 
lived on into old age but no, 

583
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,199
she died quite young, I've never
seen a Vita. 

584
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,800
I know, I know the song or songs
a few of them but that's about 

585
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,000
the extent of it. 
I've never seen it either, but 

586
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,699
of course, their goodies fans. 
I'll State the obvious for them,

587
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,800
is that, of course, there's the 
famous Tim brooke-taylor 

588
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,600
dressing up as a Vita and he 
sang. 

589
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,300
Don't Cry For Me Marge and Tina.
That's right. 

590
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:35,400
Which people love. 
They love it. 

591
00:34:35,699 --> 00:34:39,000
It's so funny. 
I remembered it must in. 

592
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,900
It's probably it was probably 
off the back of that goodies 

593
00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:44,400
episode. 
What year would that have been 

594
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,199
78? 
79, I wish I knew but yes, I'm 

595
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:51,400
going to say. 
Say you're probably bang on 

596
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,800
because that was in the episode 
politics which might have been a

597
00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:58,400
series 7 or series 8 episode so 
it's late goodies. 

598
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:03,400
Yes certainly I definitely 
remember be around the age of 

599
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,800
five or six so around that 
period. 

600
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,700
Aha. 
There was a, you know, we myself

601
00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:13,400
and friends. 
There was there was kind of we 

602
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,500
would we would sing or we would 
say Don't Cry For Me Argentina. 

603
00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:20,000
Yeah. 
And it was probably off the back

604
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,300
of the goodies. 
I reckon. 

605
00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:27,400
There you go. 
So in the script, so followed by

606
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,900
President Fred in the script, 
he's sometimes in the script. 

607
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:33,400
He's referred to sometimes as 
president Fred prayer on. 

608
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,400
So, at the script does actually 
make it quite explicit who is 

609
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,500
based on. 
But in the actual show is 

610
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:42,600
recorded the name pair on does 
not occur. 

611
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,900
Oh, at least I believe know. 
So the the show begins with the 

612
00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:50,200
annual meeting of the South 
Balam gas board. 

613
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:09,600
Gentlemen Financial. 
Yeah. 

614
00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:18,100
By the look of them gas is here 
to stay. 

615
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:31,000
I am glad. 
They say that the shop-bell mmm,

616
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,600
gasps Colossus. 
Has made a gross profit of no 

617
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,300
less than three pounds. 
Twelve Shillings and ninepence. 

618
00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:59,900
Grooves. 
Now then you left them on your 

619
00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:04,700
saxophone and then they discover
that there's an outstanding debt

620
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:10,200
of four pounds, nine Shillings 
and Sixpence and it's owed by 

621
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,400
President Fred of Argentina. 
And and the reason that the 

622
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,300
South balam gas board supplies 
gas to Argentina, is because in 

623
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:21,400
1939, blood not ship two 
cylinder of gas there. 

624
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:25,700
Yeah. 
But sure, which is kindly 

625
00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:29,300
explained to us by greenslade. 
So already, he's having to 

626
00:37:29,300 --> 00:37:32,300
explain things to people bit of 
exposition but I'm yeah, yeah 

627
00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:37,500
it's so Siegen visits the major 
blood knot and blood marker 

628
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:43,500
agrees to guide him to president
Fred's headquarters which is 

629
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:49,100
under siege and I wanted to 
mention So when see good mates, 

630
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:53,800
blood milk in the script or in 
the show, I should say, has 

631
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,100
recorded blood, not keeps sort 
of pushing him out of the room 

632
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:04,000
and then at one point, seeking 
knocks on the door persistently 

633
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,200
and blood doc says, you can't 
come in. 

634
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,500
I'm in the bath when seeking and
seeking says, what are you doing

635
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:11,600
in the bath and blood? 
Not says, I'm I'm watching 

636
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:17,000
television now in the script. 
Segan says. 

637
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:20,700
What's showing? 
And blood, knock says, my dear 

638
00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:21,500
fellow. 
Nothing. 

639
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:25,000
I've got a towel around me, but 
yeah, which is a very nice 

640
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,800
little gag. 
Now, that wasn't in the actual 

641
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,100
show. 
Was it that bit? 

642
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,700
No, no. 
I in researching for this, I 

643
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:36,500
came across a version of the 
script that in light gray has 

644
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:40,400
all the stuff that I've never 
heard and there's a few of these

645
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,800
scenes so I'm looking forward to
going through them. 

646
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,900
Yeah now did I'm guessing, I 
mean Spike wrote that in the 

647
00:38:47,908 --> 00:38:52,900
script it is It was recorded and
then cut out which possibly was 

648
00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:57,300
the case. 
Did they feel that it was a 

649
00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:00,200
little bit too near the knuckle?
Yeah. 

650
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:05,900
It paints a picture really does?
I mean there's no other there's 

651
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:09,900
no no other conclusion. 
You're going to come to know. 

652
00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:12,700
So yeah. 
So so blood look arranges for 

653
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:17,900
Echols to be sequence guide to 
president Fred's headquarters. 

654
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:20,100
I think think that's the case. 
Case does it. 

655
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:24,200
There's a gag that is very well 
known that gets another airing 

656
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:28,600
in this show. 
We're seeking says that. 

657
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,200
He's he says that night at 
midnight. 

658
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,100
I waited her in a specially 
darkened. 

659
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:34,800
Doorway for the coming of the 
stranger. 

660
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:37,100
Who was to guide me on my 
perilous Mission. 

661
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,400
I was so heavily disguised that 
not even. 

662
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,000
My own mother would have 
recognized me and then you have 

663
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,800
spiked as throat saying evening 
Nettie. 

664
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:47,600
Good evening mother. 
Yeah, yeah. 

665
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,300
Now that gag is Very well known 
because it was version of that 

666
00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:57,100
was in the series 5 show 
Dishonored, okay? 

667
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,800
Which in itself was remade for 
series nines Dishonored again. 

668
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:10,900
And Dishonored again, was on the
first-ever lp issued of our gun 

669
00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:14,000
shows, okay? 
With Tales of old Dartmoor, on 

670
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,500
the other side and that was 
issued in 1959 and it's Just 

671
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:23,400
it's one of those shows 
dishonest again, is just as with

672
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,000
Tales of old arm or two of the 
best known gun shows ever just 

673
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,500
because so many people bought 
that LP. 

674
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:32,800
So many my dad used to quote 
lines, my late dad used to quote

675
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:38,100
lines from Tales of old Dartmoor
all the time because he'd, you 

676
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:41,900
know, he either used to own the 
lp or, and listen to the LP on a

677
00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:45,400
regular basis. 
So yeah, so that, that's a gag 

678
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,700
that Spike had filched from 
Dishonored. 

679
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:52,000
I'm sure he probably turns up 
another gun shows as well that, 

680
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:58,000
you know, I can't bring to mind 
at the moment, but in this 

681
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,200
episode, it doesn't become 
immediately parent. 

682
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,200
But Echols is quite what's the 
word Wiley, you know. 

683
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,900
Yeah. 
I mean he's quite he's which is 

684
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,600
it's a typical he. 
Yeah I mean we're going to find 

685
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:18,700
out that he does better a few of
the people's schemes in a very 

686
00:41:18,700 --> 00:41:20,800
unusual. 
You'll way so it's what I mean 

687
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,700
unusual in that it's equals 
doing it. 

688
00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:25,600
So yeah. 
He does get the best of people. 

689
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,300
It's quite amazing and that's 
one of the reasons why it's sort

690
00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:31,000
of stands out for me. 
Anyway. 

691
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,400
So we should go back and explain
that this is in the sewer. 

692
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,000
So and it is hilarious because, 
of course, some blood knockers 

693
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,600
sort of gotten rid of Nettie, by
saying, look, you need to go and

694
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,200
see President Fred. 
You can't get to his room 

695
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,000
because it's up there in the 
square and you'll get killed in 

696
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,800
a hail of gunfire. 
You know, from the various 

697
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,300
factions all shooting at each 
other. 

698
00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:54,200
So I'll send someone to guide 
you. 

699
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:59,100
And unfortunately for Nettie 
it's Echols and Echols just says

700
00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:02,700
you know go straight up there, 
you know, which is root one. 

701
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:06,200
It straight up the worst Street,
you can go up and now you have 

702
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,700
to say Well they're shooting up.
There he goes all don't go up 

703
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,800
there then and ankles. 
It is zero, help at all. 

704
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,100
And Echols goes will go down 
this road and Nettie says, but 

705
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:17,700
that's in the opposite direction
and so you can see where this is

706
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:20,800
going and Equals just says. 
All right well I'll catch you 

707
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,200
later and Nettie has to say no, 
no, I've got an idea, it's the 

708
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,300
sewers. 
Let's jump down into the sewers 

709
00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:30,800
and even though Echols is done 
his terrible job, he he jumps 

710
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,100
down there with Nettie anyway 
and that's yeah, that's where 

711
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:37,000
they run into blue bottle and 
and blue bottle starts. 

712
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,500
Well, singing the Harry lime 
theme and the third, man. 

713
00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:44,600
Oh my goodness. 
Yeah. 

714
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,600
In fact, it was in one of the 
green pods recently that that 

715
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,200
came up because I'd always 
wondered who Harry lime was, but

716
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,400
obviously, didn't look it up on 
Google or anything. 

717
00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:57,700
Yeah, there's a great bit with 
blue bottle here with where 

718
00:42:57,700 --> 00:43:04,500
sellers clearly fluffs. 
Hey, wait a minute. 

719
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:08,200
That said that, right? 
That's it. 

720
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,500
It's spelled out. 
There is one of the old-time 

721
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:15,600
classic we're in my view. 
It's one of the all-time 

722
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,700
classics. 
It's just so good and you get to

723
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:23,400
massive laugh out of it. 
Brilliant, one of the bits I 

724
00:43:23,408 --> 00:43:27,500
like is, you know, he has to 
bribe Blue Bottle into coming 

725
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:29,200
along near he does. 
And he offers him. 

726
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,300
These Licorice allsorts and 
Believe I'm Gonna lick her. 

727
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,400
Has. 
She got to be careful. 

728
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,000
How many of those I eat? 
Now I've never been judged on 

729
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,800
licorice allsorts but it should 
I assume that this is what's a 

730
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,800
Rik Mayall would call. 
And you know, you'd end up with 

731
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,700
a runny bottom. 
Oh yes sir, right? 

732
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:49,700
Okay, thank you clarifying. 
They have laxative properties. 

733
00:43:50,300 --> 00:43:53,100
Ha ha as yes. 
Yes. 

734
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,500
But have you ever experienced 
that firsthand Tyler? 

735
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:01,800
Can I ask? 
I've never been a huge fan of 

736
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,100
licorice, I like liquorice. 
But I tend to tend to eat the 

737
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:08,500
bits around the licorice. 
If you don't have anything yet 

738
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:10,000
the, the pink bits and the 
yellow beets. 

739
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,700
Yeah, yes. 
Yeah. 

740
00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:14,000
Oh my goodness, anyway. 
Yeah. 

741
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,500
Sorry what. 
So what happens here is the they

742
00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:19,900
still are struggling to try and 
get Neddy into this building, 

743
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:23,700
which is under heavy fire to, to
reach president Fred. 

744
00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:27,000
And say, listen here, pal, you 
owe me for four pounds for this 

745
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,300
gas bill. 
So, blue bottle comes up with a 

746
00:44:30,308 --> 00:44:34,100
genius idea of putting him in a 
parcel and there's Other cut bit

747
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:39,500
of script here when and sorry, 
the parcel goes off to Moriarty 

748
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:44,000
and it goes to group pipe 
because it's in the what they 

749
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,800
call the mysterious Parcels 
investigation chamber or 

750
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,000
something like that. 
Because obviously all the mail 

751
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,900
coming into the building could 
have bombs in it. 

752
00:44:50,900 --> 00:44:54,300
So they've got they've got to 
investigate every parcel. 

753
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:57,600
And what I love is that Moriarty
goes off. 

754
00:44:57,700 --> 00:45:00,700
I don't like the expression on 
this Parcels label, which is a 

755
00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:04,700
brilliant line. 
It's a great And then straight 

756
00:45:04,700 --> 00:45:07,200
away without even a pause grip. 
Pipe just says, alright, 

757
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,000
Moriarty steam the stamp off 
this parcel and cash it. 

758
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:14,700
And he's pinching every penny 
and that it comes back because 

759
00:45:14,700 --> 00:45:18,700
seven episodes after this was 
greenslade story. 

760
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:23,000
And, of course, you know, they 
out pay the BBC by saying our 

761
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,100
we're going to give greenslade 
five pounds a week, and John 

762
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:29,800
snags is there isn't that much 
money and group pipe says, yes 

763
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,300
it is. 
I've got five pounds here and 

764
00:45:31,300 --> 00:45:34,700
used stamps so I like to To 
think he was using the, the 

765
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:38,700
South American stamp absolutely 
and isn't that there will be 

766
00:45:38,707 --> 00:45:41,900
another reference to the green 
Side, Story nature on look 

767
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:45,900
forward to that listeners. 
But yeah, you're right. 

768
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:48,500
And in the original original 
script, there was a section that

769
00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:51,900
either was was recorded and 
never never included or they 

770
00:45:51,900 --> 00:45:55,700
didn't bother recording it 
involving a 40-ton steam hammer 

771
00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:59,900
and, and a hose and running 
water and all sorts of stuff. 

772
00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:04,200
Yeah, I mean, it's not any worse
off for having cut that stuff 

773
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,600
out. 
I don't think you know, it's, 

774
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:10,000
there's no gold in there. 
That should have been Ken. 

775
00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:12,600
I don't think. 
But can I just ask you while 

776
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,000
we're on grip pipe in Moriarty? 
What do you, how do you feel 

777
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,600
about those characters? 
Do you like because you'll have 

778
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,800
heard? 
I guess you've heard sort of 

779
00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:23,900
this period grip by the Moriarty
in plentiful doses. 

780
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:29,000
Yeah, as the series progresses 
towards the end, they've become 

781
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,300
despicable retches both of them.
Do you prefer early or late 

782
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:34,800
period? 
Get pipe and Moriarty? 

783
00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:38,600
Yeah, well I'm more familiar 
with early and I do love them in

784
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,200
that. 
It's perhaps, you can help me 

785
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,700
here. 
Tyler, because in my notes, I do

786
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:45,100
have a heading that says, I'm 
questions for Tyler. 

787
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,700
Okay. 
I'm assuming that you'll know 

788
00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:48,300
them all. 
So, there's one that I've never 

789
00:46:48,300 --> 00:46:51,400
been able to find that I did 
here, as I was going through 

790
00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:54,200
many, many years ago. 
And it was, they were both. 

791
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,700
We're coming back to the Sewer. 
They're both in the sewer and 

792
00:46:57,700 --> 00:47:00,200
they're wearing suits made out 
of newspapers. 

793
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,400
And The think group pipe says, 
to Moriarty stand still. 

794
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,000
I'm trying to read this article,
but do you recall which which 

795
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:16,900
episode that might be? 
What? 

796
00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:19,000
It's a good buy it from our 
landlord. 

797
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,500
Yes. 
As into complaints from the 

798
00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:24,000
tenants of the other sources 
about you are singing and our 

799
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,300
going. 
After 11:00, I do hereby give 

800
00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:34,400
you want to just quit or if you 
like, we've been given the 

801
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:40,300
registered vote kicked out sulis
without a street of what I had 

802
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,600
nothing, but the water we stand 
up in great part, right? 

803
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,100
Yeah. 
And not listening. 

804
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:52,300
Not less, take the pirate. 
I just feel that I'm sorry as I 

805
00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:54,400
was just reading this 
advertisement on the back page 

806
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,700
of my suit. 
Listen here, you know, when 

807
00:47:58,700 --> 00:48:01,100
you're living in the sewers 
wearing newspaper, you're on, 

808
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,100
you're on in hard times that 
were occasions when they were 

809
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:06,300
sharing a suit. 
That is here. 

810
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:10,900
That is so on their up, as, you 
know, it's classic. 

811
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,300
But I'm no, no. 
I like those. 

812
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:15,300
I mean, normally, we can sort of
flip that question. 

813
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,200
Gin on its head and you might 
ask someone, hey, who's your 

814
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,600
favorite character? 
And then you can sort of go from

815
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,000
there and, and in past episodes,
I know, you know, people have 

816
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,500
professed their even though he's
an absolute slimeball, their 

817
00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:31,700
love for blood knock and I'm 
definitely in that camp. 

818
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,500
I just cannot get enough blood 
knock. 

819
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:35,800
In fact, that's one of the 
strengths of this episode is 

820
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:40,400
that blood knocks in and out all
the time that disrupted. 

821
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,700
This is so many disreputable 
characters in The Goon show. 

822
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:48,100
Isn't that and easily King? 
Then they more fun. 

823
00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:50,700
Okay. 
So anyway, Nettie sort of 

824
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:53,900
there's the parcel in the puzzle
testing off as needy, has burst 

825
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:57,100
out of it and caught them by 
surprise and he just you know, 

826
00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:59,200
says to group Piper Moriarty. 
Okay. 

827
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,500
You owe me four pounds and they 
say well you know. 

828
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:05,600
Whoa, whoa, whoa. 
Let's make sure of this steady 

829
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,400
on our, what? 
On the mm, perhaps you should go

830
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,600
and read the meter. 
So they actually convince Nettie

831
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,700
to go down into the basement and
read the meter. 

832
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:16,400
And as soon as he leaves, Grit 
pipe. 

833
00:49:16,500 --> 00:49:19,700
Sort of just goes my say how 
empty the room is without him 

834
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:25,900
which as far as fat jokes go. 
It's so charmingly worded. 

835
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:27,900
It does sound almost like a 
compliment. 

836
00:49:27,900 --> 00:49:30,000
But again you know it paints a 
picture. 

837
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,900
I think that's some brilliant 
work but also nonetheless. 

838
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:39,000
What's that line? 
By because Barry Cryer the late 

839
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,000
great Barry Cryer used to. 
There's a line used to use about

840
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,100
The MP, Nicholas soames grandson
of Winston, Churchill. 

841
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:52,600
All you have me at a 
disadvantage here, who's on, 

842
00:49:52,700 --> 00:49:54,500
who's on the large size where he
was? 

843
00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:57,000
I think he's lost a bit of 
Timber recent years, but okay. 

844
00:49:57,100 --> 00:49:59,500
I think it could be wrong but I 
think it was Barry cry used to 

845
00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:02,600
say about Nicholas soames. 
He lit up a room every time he 

846
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,200
left. 
Yeah, you know. 

847
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,200
So now, so now there is no other
way you can take that as an 

848
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:14,100
insult, I think. 
But but this one, in fact, if 

849
00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:16,900
you were to try You don't even 
need to twist it that much, but 

850
00:50:16,900 --> 00:50:19,600
by saying someone, you know how 
empty the room is without him, 

851
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,700
could be referring to. 
If you're talking about Harry 

852
00:50:22,700 --> 00:50:26,400
cecum, his presence in a room, 
would light up the room and when

853
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,000
he leaves the room would seem 
empty without him. 

854
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,200
I think yes, if I was this hang 
out with Harry's actually so you

855
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,100
could grasp at straws and say it
is a compliment you know, you 

856
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:38,800
can be taken both ways, you 
know, it's one of those things 

857
00:50:39,300 --> 00:50:41,400
and that would be one of the 
first ever goon gags. 

858
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,900
You'd heard because you woke up 
around this time, didn't you? 

859
00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:48,300
Lutely, yeah. 
When well, yeah, it is the 

860
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:49,500
parcel. 
Absolutely. 

861
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:52,700
I mean, I would have been a bit 
groggy, but yes, definitely. 

862
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,200
But do you want me to continue? 
Tyler yesterday's, but as it 

863
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,000
stands. 
So, the other faction attacks at

864
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,200
this stage because Nettie has 
just gone down to read the 

865
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,500
meter. 
And this is where we meet a 

866
00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:11,100
general or handle Aston Villa. 
Yes, not little plan with the 

867
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,600
are these. 
Do you follow anyone in? 

868
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:21,200
In the British football. 
No, I don't know, I don't know. 

869
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,500
Not neither do I. 
So my son is huge, man. 

870
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:28,700
United fan, we live in the 
Northwest that mind you, that's 

871
00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:31,900
no indication of someone being a
man united event, living living 

872
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:35,900
locally. 
But General, General Aston Villa

873
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:38,300
zigzag rate, minor character, 
one-off character. 

874
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:45,500
And when I had Keith Wiccan on 
the show, yes, he pointed out 

875
00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:50,200
that the The voice that sellers 
users for General, Aston Villa 

876
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,900
is more or less. 
The same voice that he used that

877
00:51:52,900 --> 00:51:59,100
cell has used many dubbed, a 
character in the 1950 film, The 

878
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:04,700
Black Rose, And and if you 
listen and I did actually in the

879
00:52:04,707 --> 00:52:08,300
key quick and episode, I did 
include a clip of both as a 

880
00:52:08,308 --> 00:52:10,100
comparison. 
I'm not going to do that again. 

881
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:13,400
So if anyone wants to check that
out, go and seek out the the 

882
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:18,400
episode with Keith Wickham from 
I think, October last year but 

883
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,900
it's a wonderful voice. 
It's a wonderful vocal 

884
00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:24,500
performance, isn't it? 
They really is its, I can't get 

885
00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:27,900
enough of it and, you know, 
again, it's like I could listen 

886
00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:30,800
to grip pipe all day, but yeah. 
Sure. 

887
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,000
Aston Villa I could listen to 
him all day as well and as a 

888
00:52:35,008 --> 00:52:37,300
character as well even aside 
from The Voice. 

889
00:52:37,300 --> 00:52:42,000
He's so smooth because you know 
he's in the middle of this 

890
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,300
bloody Revolution and there he 
is just very calmly. 

891
00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:48,900
Going through this smooth 
negotiation with Nettie about 

892
00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:52,500
the gas bill and it all ends up 
in the brilliant line of when he

893
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:56,500
gets back, pay the bill and then
kill him which is beautiful 

894
00:52:56,500 --> 00:53:01,200
nonsense. 
Its you pay the bill Bill and 

895
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,300
then kill him. 
Yeah, so their bills, not going 

896
00:53:03,300 --> 00:53:05,200
to be paid then, is it? 
It's going to be a net, he's 

897
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,100
pocket, but it to State the 
obvious. 

898
00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:13,600
But that line is so good. 
There is, I think some mistakes 

899
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,300
on your we have just taken 
possession here. 

900
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:21,500
This very minute, we only just 
lead the gods. 

901
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,800
Good Heavens dreadfully. 
Sorry, in that case, you 

902
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,900
couldn't have used more than the
thermal to could you ha ha. 

903
00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:35,000
Ha. 
Excuse me, when he comes up, pay

904
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:40,000
the bill and then kill him. 
Is that the last time we see 

905
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:47,800
General Aston Villa again, quite
possibly again, is probably fans

906
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,000
out there. 
Goon show fans, who were 

907
00:53:50,400 --> 00:54:00,100
screaming at the at the It was 
bound to happen bound to happen.

908
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:03,400
Yeah. 
So then and at this only lasts 

909
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,200
what maybe a minute and we get 
this new character and then the 

910
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:12,500
proof Red Faction counter-attack
that frightens off the general 

911
00:54:13,300 --> 00:54:16,400
and you get this, you know, and 
Moriarty and group pipe burst 

912
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:22,400
back into the room and all the 
the coup military people of the 

913
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,500
general. 
Have fled. 

914
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:28,500
And that's when Nettie foolishly
decides to come back into the 

915
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:30,600
room, he doesn't know any of 
this is our what I mean. 

916
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,900
He's oh God actually. 
Sorry. 

917
00:54:32,900 --> 00:54:36,400
Tyler, I'm lost here. 
It's easy to do with this 

918
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,000
particular episode getting his 
because Nettie has to leave 

919
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,800
again for some reason So, hang 
on, just to get this straight in

920
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,100
my own mind, Moriarty, and grip.
Pipe. 

921
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:49,100
Tell Nettie, go down and read 
the meter. 

922
00:54:49,300 --> 00:54:51,800
He comes back. 
General Aston Villa has taken 

923
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,000
over and generalized analysis. 
Hey, bro, I'm not paying your 

924
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,600
four pounds because I've only 
just taken over here 30 seconds 

925
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,300
ago. 
And we've only just lit the gas 

926
00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:04,800
and that's hilarious in itself. 
Like you just taken over this 

927
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,600
this sort of the president's 
Villa and you go, oh, what's one

928
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,500
of the first things we'll do in 
the first 30 seconds? 

929
00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:12,300
Let's light the gas because they
probably want to. 

930
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,400
The kettle on and then they say 
yes. 

931
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,000
Well do you want to check and 
edit? 

932
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:21,700
Navy says yes. 
In that case, if you've only 

933
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:24,900
been here for a split second you
can only are used a therm or 

934
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:27,000
two. 
So I'll pop back down and I'll 

935
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,900
read the meter which Nettie 
does. 

936
00:55:28,900 --> 00:55:31,800
And then in the meantime, the 
counter attack happens, nidhi 

937
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,200
comes back in. 
It's Moriarty and grip pipe. 

938
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,300
This must be thrilling for the 
poor listener to. 

939
00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:38,800
I'm and this is just the 
beginning, it gets way more 

940
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,200
complicated from here. 
Well, there's there's lots of 

941
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,200
Nettie entering and exiting 
rooms shall we say? 

942
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:48,300
Oh there's a lot of that. 
But, you know, we get, we get to

943
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:51,400
Center ourselves in the goons 
Universe because there's one of 

944
00:55:51,408 --> 00:55:55,600
The Good Old Reliable gags of. 
Here's a photograph of two 

945
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,700
Shillings type stuff. 
Yes. 

946
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:01,600
Yeah, there's also, by the way, 
running leitmotif. 

947
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,800
I think that's the word or the 
phrase saxophone saxophones get 

948
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,800
regularly reference throughout 
the episode. 

949
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,300
Some reason we hadn't brought 
that up. 

950
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:11,700
No, yeah, mmm. 
There's a lot. 

951
00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:12,800
Have you? 
Down? 

952
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,000
How many times or anything? 
I haven't gone there. 

953
00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:20,400
No, it's got to be half a dozen.
Was it the chairman of the 

954
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,900
southbound gasps? 
Boards wife has been receiving 

955
00:56:23,900 --> 00:56:28,600
saxophone lessons as far as well
as God knows yet this is a 

956
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,400
significant portion of their 
profits. 

957
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,900
So they're he's reading out the 
balance books at the very 

958
00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:36,800
beginning cron and they're 
they've made a sterling profit 

959
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,700
for the year of three pounds, 
twelve, Shillings and ninepence.

960
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:44,200
And one of their, you know, 
Expenses they had was the 

961
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,100
saxophone lessons of three 
pounds, eight, Shillings and 

962
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:49,500
ninepence. 
So if they just hadn't given the

963
00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:52,100
Chairman's wife, saxophone 
lessons, they could have doubled

964
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:56,000
their profits for the entire 
year, but as crumbs says, you 

965
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,600
never know when it's going to 
come in handy. 

966
00:56:58,700 --> 00:57:00,300
No, cool. 
Quite right. 

967
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:05,100
Quite right. 
Shall we get to the kind of the 

968
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:08,700
meat of the episode, which is 
the, the whole sort of sacks of 

969
00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:13,500
money. 
Yes, it where You have to kind 

970
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:17,600
of take notes or write stuff 
down to try and follow all this 

971
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:22,300
I think. 
But for some reason Spike 

972
00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:26,100
decided on a bit of a handbrake 
turn and decided to bring up 

973
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:29,600
colored sacks of money red and 
blue sacks. 

974
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,500
Hmm. 
Do you want to kind of navigate 

975
00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:36,900
through this? 
I've been here now I can and as 

976
00:57:36,900 --> 00:57:41,100
it does make of believe it or 
not, it does make logical sense 

977
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:44,200
because there's there. 
Trying to pull a con of course 

978
00:57:44,500 --> 00:57:48,100
and you know, some Moriarty in 
Grid pipe want because the 

979
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:51,800
president Fred wants to be 
smuggled out of the country so 

980
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,000
he doesn't get shot. 
So his fortune is 50 million. 

981
00:57:55,900 --> 00:57:58,600
I don't know 50 million, what 50
million dollars, fifty million 

982
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,500
pounds, who knows, but answers. 
Yeah, yeah. 

983
00:58:01,700 --> 00:58:08,300
So yes, Moriarty and grit pipe 
have arranged to smuggle 

984
00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:10,800
president Fred out of the 
country in exchange for his 

985
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:16,400
fortune and Meanwhile they've 
also sorted out 50 million in 

986
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,000
forged money because of course, 
what's going to happen is blood.

987
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,200
Knock for his part is going to 
want to share of this 50 million

988
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,400
which Moriarty and group pipe do
not want to. 

989
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,200
In fact, they don't even share 
it with each other. 

990
00:58:27,700 --> 00:58:32,400
So they have a red sack full of 
the forged banknotes and they 

991
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,400
have a blue sack full of the 
real stuff. 

992
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,100
Hmm. 
And and this is introduced. 

993
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,200
So there's an as you rightly 
point out. 

994
00:58:42,300 --> 00:58:45,300
Tyler that there's a lot of 
comings and goings with door 

995
00:58:45,300 --> 00:58:47,500
handles being turned and people 
coming in and out of the room 

996
00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:54,400
and getting shot and things. 
So Moriarty basically says all 

997
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,800
right blood knock. 
I've got the 50 million here in 

998
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,400
this red sack and blood knock 
promptly shoots poor old 

999
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,800
Moriarty and takes off well with
the sack full of money. 

1000
00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:09,300
And it was very funny because 
you did said good Lord that that

1001
00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:12,900
pistol was loaded, poor, 
Moriarty the tax You played the 

1002
00:59:12,908 --> 00:59:15,900
saxophone. 
Yeah, that's exactly right. 

1003
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,500
And it's at this point that the 
listener, if you're hearing this

1004
00:59:21,500 --> 00:59:23,700
episode, for the first time, 
that's when you figure out 

1005
00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:26,900
what's going on because group 
pipe walks in and Moriarty says,

1006
00:59:26,900 --> 00:59:29,300
yes, yes, I gave him the pistol 
with the blanks in it and the 

1007
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:32,400
red sack of forged notes. 
And that's when we find out for 

1008
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,900
the first time, there were 
forged notes in its Intrigue of 

1009
00:59:34,900 --> 00:59:38,000
the highest order and grit pipe 
tells Moriarty. 

1010
00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:40,000
Oh, that's good. 
I've got the real money here in 

1011
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,700
the blue sack. 
So off you pop A out here. 

1012
00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:45,600
You know, you go to the airport 
and bias, two plane tickets out 

1013
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,200
of the country. 
And so, this is where we get 

1014
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,600
introduced to the concept of the
two sacks and what's real, and 

1015
00:59:52,600 --> 01:00:00,200
what's not 50 million are 
Christmas in Gabrielle, millions

1016
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,700
of Mulan. 
So what I've got Tyler at this 

1017
01:00:03,700 --> 01:00:10,200
point grid pipe, when he's alone
in the room, he says 50 million 

1018
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,500
a and he sings at Christmas in. 
Bree millions of Moolah? 

1019
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,800
Yes. 
Now, I did a lot of Christmas in

1020
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,400
Capri research. 
I'm not sure if this or make the

1021
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,700
final edit or not. 
But yes, I did a lot of 

1022
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:25,700
Christmas in Capri research. 
I don't know if you're 

1023
01:00:25,700 --> 01:00:27,700
interested in this or know 
anything about it. 

1024
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,100
Go on. 
Okay? 

1025
01:00:30,100 --> 01:00:34,100
So first off, I'd always thought
he was singing Christmas in 

1026
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:36,700
Cadbury, you know, as if it was 
a place named after the Cadbury 

1027
01:00:36,700 --> 01:00:39,100
chocolates. 
So I was dead wrong on that. 

1028
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,200
Good Lord. 
So you've got grip pipes, 

1029
01:00:42,300 --> 01:00:44,900
Singing it, this happens a lot 
in this episode, just like the 

1030
01:00:44,900 --> 01:00:49,100
saxophone rapist references. 
So later on, you've got Echols 

1031
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:52,100
and blue bottles singing 
Christmas in Capri, in tandem, 

1032
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,700
you know, plenty of Mahler and 
finally blood knock sings as 

1033
01:00:56,700 --> 01:00:59,500
well and always when they get a 
sack full of money. 

1034
01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:03,400
And I love this because I think 
that's one of the things that 

1035
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,900
pulled me in because, you know, 
I don't know about you, but I 

1036
01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:08,500
sort of go around the house 
singing little lines from songs 

1037
01:01:08,500 --> 01:01:12,200
and then changing the lyrics to 
reflect what's going on with. 

1038
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,900
I'm doing that day or whatever 
is on our mind or something like

1039
01:01:14,900 --> 01:01:16,900
that and if there are these 
characters they're beautifully 

1040
01:01:16,900 --> 01:01:19,200
human even though they're 
ridiculous. 

1041
01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:23,300
Yeah and I thought Christmas in 
Cadbury might be a real song so 

1042
01:01:23,300 --> 01:01:26,800
I better Google this. 
Nobody did a song with this 

1043
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:31,900
title until the 2000s. 
My thought has always been 

1044
01:01:31,900 --> 01:01:36,000
because there's a song that goes
April in rural areas. 

1045
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:37,500
Yeah. 
And I just thought it was just 

1046
01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:41,200
like your take on that. 
I reckon you're absolutely right

1047
01:01:41,700 --> 01:01:43,500
because Capri He was seen as at 
that time. 

1048
01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:46,600
Capri was seen as like being 
the, the place to be. 

1049
01:01:46,700 --> 01:01:49,600
If you were like, Princess 
Margaret Orr that set if you 

1050
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,100
know what I mean. 
Hehe what know that sounds 

1051
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:55,300
about, right? 
I mean, a problem. 

1052
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,900
So there's a whole April in 
Paris, chestnuts in Blossom. 

1053
01:01:58,900 --> 01:02:01,900
So, I figured out which episodes
they played this in, and this is

1054
01:02:01,900 --> 01:02:05,500
all in 1955. 
So they sang it five times in 

1055
01:02:05,500 --> 01:02:08,500
the sinking of Westminster Pier 
April, in Paris. 

1056
01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:11,700
Well, with that same tune as you
rightly coming down, Doom pot 

1057
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,400
soon. 
Otherwise, brilliant. 

1058
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,200
Brilliant. 
And then in the yeti which is in

1059
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,200
my top five goons episodes did 
my top three actually. 

1060
01:02:20,700 --> 01:02:24,200
And this was this was the three 
episodes later and they're 

1061
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,700
singing April in Paris. 
Again it comes up two times in 

1062
01:02:27,700 --> 01:02:29,200
that episode. 
Then they sing it in the Lost 

1063
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,200
Emperor, which is a little bit 
later that year. 

1064
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,100
And finally, in foiled by 
President Fred, it's morphed 

1065
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:41,000
sort of, from, you know, April 
in Paris, to Christmas in Capri 

1066
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,600
or Cadbury. 
And so I think you're dead, 

1067
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,300
right? 
But I do wonder, you know, is 

1068
01:02:46,300 --> 01:02:48,400
there a spike Milligan or Peter 
Sellers expert? 

1069
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:52,500
Who can tell us whether either 
of them, any of the goons went 

1070
01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:55,200
to a capri for Christmas? 
Who knows? 

1071
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,000
Oh, you can bet money that 
sellers did at some point? 

1072
01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:01,700
Yeah. 
And so maybe he'd mentioned this

1073
01:03:01,700 --> 01:03:05,500
for Spike because this episode 
was went out in November so he 

1074
01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:07,600
might have seen a spike. 
I'm often in I'm having 

1075
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,200
Christmas in Capri and then next
thing you know, maybe they're 

1076
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:16,200
you know so it's It's a Longboat
a drawer, isn't it blind? 

1077
01:03:17,500 --> 01:03:19,800
So that's what I spend my 
valuable goon, pod, time, 

1078
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,100
researching, tarlowe a dead. 
Well and the thing is we haven't

1079
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:26,000
even mentioned the other songs 
that get men to sort of 

1080
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,000
reference. 
Like I talk to the trees which 

1081
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,300
equals things again, because 
he's done that before. 

1082
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,900
And also another reference to 
the man from Laramie. 

1083
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,900
Well, it was a film and then 
there was a song called The Man 

1084
01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:44,000
from Laramie but Jimmy Young, I 
think think on the episode of 

1085
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,500
did on Napoleon's piano, I think
I mentioned that Jimmy young and

1086
01:03:47,500 --> 01:03:49,700
had it in the Hit Parade around 
this time. 

1087
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:56,200
So back to the back to the show 
heckles arrives, And grip Pine 

1088
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,900
Pinnacles have a little tater 
Tate and Echols says oh hey it 

1089
01:03:59,908 --> 01:04:03,300
was a good idea of yours. 
Having me pack the two sacks and

1090
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,000
where's the blue one with all 
the real money? 

1091
01:04:06,500 --> 01:04:09,500
Yeah. 
And grip up says, this is the 

1092
01:04:09,500 --> 01:04:12,300
blue one, you know, that fella 
was right. 

1093
01:04:12,300 --> 01:04:14,800
Then what fella the Oculus 
fellow who said I was color. 

1094
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:19,000
Blind. 
So. 

1095
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,100
And and just the sheer dread in 
great part to the voices. 

1096
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:23,400
He says what? 
So blood knocks. 

1097
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:24,900
Got the real money. 
Yes. 

1098
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:28,900
And then you hear the famous 
goons as shocked as these. 

1099
01:04:28,900 --> 01:04:31,500
Are you speeding it? 
The worst thing key, as he 

1100
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:36,500
speeds out of the room and then 
Blue Bottle, turns up and and it

1101
01:04:36,500 --> 01:04:40,100
would appear that blue bottle 
and Echols have been conspiring,

1102
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,000
which is, which is quite 
something. 

1103
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:49,000
If you think about it, it really
isn't for them to come up with 

1104
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,800
such a scheme. 
Absolutely. 

1105
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,400
Yeah, I mean, normally they're 
reactive characters, Nettie all 

1106
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:59,200
say this Is the game and then 
Blue Bottle goes or and and goes

1107
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:00,900
along with whatever the game 
happens to be. 

1108
01:05:00,900 --> 01:05:04,500
So yeah and they've turned that 
around in this one blue bottle 

1109
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,800
and an decals are there. 
Giving the impression, you know,

1110
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:12,000
that all they fell for it, did 
they, we cut to a different room

1111
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:18,200
at this point tire and it's 
blood, knocks room and he bursts

1112
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,900
in and his assistant one which 
could be a reference to the 

1113
01:05:21,900 --> 01:05:26,100
president but I don't think it 
is and One says you better take 

1114
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:31,900
that President Fred makeup off 
and see goon has bursts into the

1115
01:05:31,900 --> 01:05:36,500
room to pay the photograph of 
the four pound note to blood 

1116
01:05:36,500 --> 01:05:39,400
knock, mmm-hmm. 
Yes. 

1117
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,900
All I'm not going to do is take 
his sack full of money and leave

1118
01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:45,000
the country. 
So he's got to get rid of needy,

1119
01:05:45,100 --> 01:05:49,100
of course, fun, unpack 
everything. 

1120
01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:51,300
I've millions of mullah and must
leave before. 

1121
01:05:51,300 --> 01:05:53,200
Nelly gets back. 
You better take that President 

1122
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:59,500
Fred makeup of our various Yeah.
Here's a photograph of a full 

1123
01:05:59,500 --> 01:06:00,600
pound left. 
Touch. 

1124
01:06:00,900 --> 01:06:01,500
Wait, wait. 
Wait. 

1125
01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:03,100
This. 
This note in the photograph. 

1126
01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:04,800
It's a forgery. 
No. 

1127
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:16,700
Christmas in, let me count the 
Moolah and up, what? 

1128
01:06:16,900 --> 01:06:21,000
Great thundering, widgets of 
clowns, who dead, put down that 

1129
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,700
double action, hydraulic recal 
18 inch mortar. 

1130
01:06:23,700 --> 01:06:26,100
No it belonged to my mother. 
What do you want? 

1131
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,400
Give me the sack of money can 
come Mariotti old friends, 

1132
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,700
mustn't fall out very well. 
We'll settle this amicably. 

1133
01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:39,800
How like this shuts Uma Gators. 
Everything coming to life old 

1134
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,100
got team. 
Is he dead? 

1135
01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:46,100
Yes. 
Oh I'm shutting the cleans, you 

1136
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,400
got him. 
Hello Ned him. 

1137
01:06:51,900 --> 01:06:53,500
What are these men lying on the 
floor for? 

1138
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:59,500
We haven't got any carpets 
Echoes. 

1139
01:06:59,500 --> 01:07:01,900
Told me the bad luck. 
Ran off with a red sack full of 

1140
01:07:01,900 --> 01:07:04,100
banknotes. 
Believing them to be real and 

1141
01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:05,300
went there. 
No. 

1142
01:07:05,700 --> 01:07:10,000
The real ones with Echo. 
There's the such a confusion 

1143
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,800
over the red and the blue sacks 
and who's got the real money 

1144
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:19,000
who's got the forgeries, and all
the while Echols kind of just 

1145
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,700
seems to be just sort of 
watching at all, you know, quite

1146
01:07:22,700 --> 01:07:26,200
calm, and collected and quite 
happy with everything as it's 

1147
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,900
going on. 
And yeah, we've got blood not. 

1148
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:33,000
We've got ripped by Will got 
Moriarty, what seagull and 

1149
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,500
coming and going. 
And then we have the sort of the

1150
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:41,400
climax of the show. 
Which is where again, blue 

1151
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:45,400
bottle and Echols. 
Have finally go, she ate. 

1152
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,300
Yeah. 
Yeah, that may negotiate over 

1153
01:07:48,300 --> 01:07:52,000
the sack and I do that thing 
that they that we saw Moriarty 

1154
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,000
and, and blood knock doing 
before, which is, oh, well, you 

1155
01:07:55,008 --> 01:07:57,800
know, you've got the red sacko, 
you have the red wine and I'll 

1156
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:02,500
take the nice blue, one Echols. 
He releases, I love this model 

1157
01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:07,100
stinking old blue ones. 
By the way, there's also there's

1158
01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:13,700
a bit In that scene, where Blue 
Bottle says, now we both got 

1159
01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:17,399
sacks and Echols. 
Yeah, even Milligan says, say 

1160
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:21,500
that again, which is not in the 
script and I'm wondering whether

1161
01:08:21,500 --> 01:08:24,500
because it's possibly it sounds 
a little bit, like blue bottle 

1162
01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:27,899
with said sex not Sachs is the 
X. 

1163
01:08:28,399 --> 01:08:30,700
I'm just, that's, that's what I 
read into that. 

1164
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:35,100
Now, I'm not going to argue with
that but just on colorblind 

1165
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:39,800
element that about Eccles. 
When I did the, when we cover 

1166
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:44,500
the green stage story with 
Donna, several weeks ago, 

1167
01:08:46,300 --> 01:08:50,399
there's a reference to Echoes 
being colorblind in that which 

1168
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:52,800
was just for the purpose of a 
gag throw away gag. 

1169
01:08:53,300 --> 01:08:57,800
But but you could, you could 
argue that it, you know, it is 

1170
01:08:57,899 --> 01:09:00,399
continuity. 
If you like, yeah. 

1171
01:09:02,700 --> 01:09:07,200
Say that again the red one and 
the blue one, we have both got 

1172
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,600
side. 
This is a good game. 

1173
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:14,500
You know that what is this is 
bodies and liking this game 

1174
01:09:14,899 --> 01:09:17,899
Echoes? 
Which Tech has the real money, 

1175
01:09:18,300 --> 01:09:22,800
the blue one. 
Then we'll split it 50/50 you 

1176
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:27,100
take that. 
Nice red one and I've had these 

1177
01:09:27,100 --> 01:09:33,600
rotten stinking of blue one and 
yet Quite sure that you're not 

1178
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,100
colorblind and you. 
Oh no, I'm not colorblind. 

1179
01:09:37,300 --> 01:09:43,500
Hey well, goodbye and currents. 
Good boy, red bottle. 

1180
01:09:53,300 --> 01:09:57,400
No, it's fantastic and then it's
very quickly wraps up the show 

1181
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,400
as often is the case with this 
with the gun show. 

1182
01:10:01,300 --> 01:10:07,000
Segan goes back to balam and in 
defeat and in shame, really? 

1183
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,100
Yeah. 
And he's, and he's begging for 

1184
01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:11,900
his job, or his begging for, his
old job back, because he's been 

1185
01:10:11,900 --> 01:10:14,900
sacked. 
And then the his manager says, 

1186
01:10:14,900 --> 01:10:17,400
I'm sorry, it's gone. 
Allow me to introduce our new 

1187
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,400
guest M. 
Inspector balam area president 

1188
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,900
Fred and of course It was it 
it's blood. 

1189
01:10:23,900 --> 01:10:25,700
Knock any sound so happy to be 
there. 

1190
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:32,400
Yes. 
And the show ends in defeat for 

1191
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,400
see gooned. 
Once again, whereas there was a 

1192
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,500
bit in the script as I'm sure 
you've seen that actually takes 

1193
01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:42,500
place. 
There's a there's a bit after 

1194
01:10:42,500 --> 01:10:46,300
this that wasn't recorded or I 
don't think it was recorded 

1195
01:10:46,300 --> 01:10:50,100
actually, I think it was just 
cut from The Script, there's a 

1196
01:10:50,108 --> 01:10:55,100
scene bait you know, On the Isle
of Capri with Eccles, who's 

1197
01:10:55,100 --> 01:10:59,300
obviously got the money and he's
calling over the manager. 

1198
01:10:59,300 --> 01:11:00,700
And the manager is grip pipe 
then. 

1199
01:11:00,900 --> 01:11:02,300
Yeah. 
Hope because of course you know,

1200
01:11:02,300 --> 01:11:05,800
Echols just once by the looks of
it, egg on toast and a small 

1201
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,800
model pot of tea. 
And grab five says, I certainly 

1202
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:15,700
that'll be 50 million pesos. 
Yeah, that's right you've done a

1203
01:11:15,700 --> 01:11:17,700
fantastic job there of helping 
me. 

1204
01:11:18,700 --> 01:11:23,000
As I navigate through this 
labyrinthine plot. 

1205
01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:27,100
Yeah that's perfectly phrased. 
Very kind of you. 

1206
01:11:27,100 --> 01:11:29,700
And yet I mean if the listener 
can see how much we were 

1207
01:11:29,700 --> 01:11:33,800
struggling to get through, what 
actually went on needed to be 

1208
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,500
done, it's very often. 
As I said, you know, we don't 

1209
01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:40,600
necessarily follow the show, go 
through the show but scene by 

1210
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,300
scene or whatever. 
But for this one I think it was 

1211
01:11:44,300 --> 01:11:48,200
necessary. 
This is my disagree. 

1212
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,600
But I feel it. 
I feel it was necessary and I 

1213
01:11:52,608 --> 01:11:55,900
really I've really enjoyed 
talking about it with you today.

1214
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,900
Look, it's been great to talk 
about it with you. 

1215
01:11:58,900 --> 01:11:59,800
Yeah. 
Likewise. 

1216
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,600
Thank you. 
So, is this is this your 

1217
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:07,600
all-time favorite episode? 
No, no, it's second on the list.

1218
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:12,500
I've got to say so Fireball of 
Milton Street, is definitely 

1219
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:17,200
number one for me love Fireball 
of Milton Street. 

1220
01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:21,400
But as As this was the first 
because what I would like is 

1221
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,800
eventually you're going to cover
Fireball of Milton Street and I 

1222
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,400
want to hear you talk about that
with somebody else and see what 

1223
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,400
perspective that the both of 
you, whoever it is bring to it 

1224
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,400
and I'll really enjoy listening 
to that. 

1225
01:12:33,500 --> 01:12:35,200
So I didn't want to sort of a 
ruin it. 

1226
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,200
So I went to four by President 
Fred which was my first one. 

1227
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,100
As I said, okay, good, good. 
If I bottom open streets, one of

1228
01:12:42,100 --> 01:12:46,200
those shows that's not really 
ever talked about much, but it's

1229
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:47,700
a good, it's a good one, it's 
absolutely good. 

1230
01:12:47,700 --> 01:12:54,400
It says, it's It's a classic one
and so just for you know we 

1231
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,800
touched on it earlier podcast. 
Oh cat flap. 

1232
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,600
Oh it's going strong. 
It's it's how many episodes are 

1233
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,100
you up to now? 
Hmm. 

1234
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:07,600
Well around 12. 
But I only number what I call 

1235
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,400
the main episodes and then we 
have bonus episodes so there's 

1236
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,700
three or four of those. 
So probably in reality about 15 

1237
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,600
episodes are available for 
listening for people. 

1238
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,900
I mean it's It's not even been a
year yet of podcast. 

1239
01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:24,000
Oh, cat flap. 
Oh, so it's in its infancy and, 

1240
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,800
and yeah. 
And I'd the last one I heard was

1241
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,400
the one way. 
It was at Bad been Railton. 

1242
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,800
Yeah, yeah. 
Which I'm guessing is a nom de 

1243
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,900
plume. 
No, no, no, no. 

1244
01:13:34,900 --> 01:13:38,800
That's his actual name. 
His name is, is Benedict, 

1245
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,400
Railton is his name is and it 
just happens to. 

1246
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,300
So coincidentally sound almost 
exactly, like, Ben Elton. 

1247
01:13:45,300 --> 01:13:48,200
And some people have just looked
glanced at the cover. 

1248
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:53,000
And got Ben Elton as you were, 
you know, and it's no, no, it's 

1249
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,600
been real turn. 
So yeah, he was at the recording

1250
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,100
of episode 2, which is the one 
of course, you mentioned at the 

1251
01:13:58,108 --> 01:14:01,600
beginning of the podcast, which 
is such an amazing episode of 

1252
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,000
cat flap. 
And he was there? 

1253
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:05,400
Yes. 
Yes. 

1254
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:09,400
He he saw Eduardo catflap. 
Oh, being recorded live. 

1255
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:15,400
So that's how I mean I I I've 
mentioned, I think more than 

1256
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,500
once on this show who were 
sounds a bit rude. 

1257
01:14:18,500 --> 01:14:22,900
The game show that Richie is 
appearing on with the Gareth. 

1258
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:27,600
Gareth, hail hunt, Gareth Hale, 
and Chris Barrie and Harry 

1259
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,400
Enfield. 
He's in that scene, isn't he? 

1260
01:15:05,700 --> 01:15:08,500
And listen at you know listeners
who maybe are not so familiar 

1261
01:15:08,500 --> 01:15:10,400
with filthy bridging cat flower.
But you know, if you like 

1262
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,600
bottom, if you love Rik, Mayall 
who doesn't God? 

1263
01:15:13,700 --> 01:15:15,800
Yes. 
Lily, it's coming up for 10 

1264
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,800
years and next year, we 10 years
since he since he left us Jeff 

1265
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,200
and losers. 
Terrible. 

1266
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:26,000
Isn't it and 10 painful years 
but it seems they've flown by. 

1267
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,500
Yeah. 
Yes they have. 

1268
01:15:28,500 --> 01:15:32,000
They have I was at Queen's 
watching tennis, would you 

1269
01:15:32,008 --> 01:15:35,300
believe down on London happened?
That's why I always associated 

1270
01:15:35,300 --> 01:15:40,400
with that. 
Anyway, listen, anyone who's a 

1271
01:15:40,407 --> 01:15:44,700
fan of this podcast of British 
comedy of Rik, Mayall. 

1272
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,400
I highly recommend that you seek
out podcaster catflap. 

1273
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:53,700
Oh, And also, you know, check 
out sitcom Showdown and even the

1274
01:15:53,700 --> 01:15:56,400
goodies podcast, if you love the
goodies, or again, if you love 

1275
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,100
comedy, check them all out 
there. 

1276
01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:02,400
All in the usual places. 
Our Tyler, thank you. 

1277
01:16:02,700 --> 01:16:05,300
This has been brilliant. 
Thank you for plugging those and

1278
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,500
I love Green Pod and I'm more of
a fan of the Pod. 

1279
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:12,400
I would say than I am of the 
goons and that shows you a love.

1280
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,800
So goons so goon pod is its 
exceptional and so I'm not 

1281
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,000
trying to embarrass you or 
anything like that but the work 

1282
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:24,200
you do is brilliant and every 
episode is so enjoyable so I'll 

1283
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,000
continue to listen to goon pod 
for as long as it runs. 

1284
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,200
Okay. 
The check is in the post. 

1285
01:16:31,300 --> 01:16:35,000
In a red Sakura in a blue sack? 
Yes. 

1286
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,000
Thanks again to Jeffers. 
By the way, the gun show that 

1287
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,800
Jeff is mentioned earlier, which
he couldn't remember, the name 

1288
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:48,200
of, was the stolen Postman from 
series 8, written solely by 

1289
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:52,200
Larry Stevens. 
As always, I will be back next 

1290
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:57,000
week and new show new topic, new
guests, and until then, take 

1291
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,600
care of yourselves. 
See you soon. 

1292
01:16:58,600 --> 01:16:37,100
Bye. 
Thanks again to Jeffers. 

1293
01:16:37,900 --> 01:16:41,500
By the way, the gun show that 
Jeff is mentioned earlier, which

1294
01:16:41,500 --> 01:16:45,100
he couldn't remember, the name 
of, was the stolen Postman from 

1295
01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:49,000
series 8, written solely by 
Larry Stevens. 

1296
01:16:50,300 --> 01:16:54,600
As always, I will be back next 
week and new show new topic, new

1297
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,900
guests, and until then, take 
care of yourselves. 

1298
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,000
See you soon. 
Bye.