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What, what what did you what did
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I can't hear you. 
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Thank you, get back in the water
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Hello, and welcome to gun pod. 
My name is Tyler atoms. 

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And this week, I am joined by 
the actor comedian and writer 

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Chaz, early. 
Hello Chas. 

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Good morning. 
How are you? 

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I'm very well such as you know, 
Chaz early. 

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No no, no relation to Pam early 
of ghost. 

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Watch Fame, that is maybe not. 
Okay. 

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Okay yeah. 
So you and I got to talking 

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because your End of such a 
couple of previous guests of the

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show? 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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Jeremy. 
Limb and Margaret came on Smith 

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very much. 
So. 

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And I suppose, one of the major 
projects that you were involved 

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with was a one-man show about 
Bill Hicks. 

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Yeah, I am myself in a and fella
called Richard, Hearst, co-wrote

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a show about bill when it was 
approaching the 10th anniversary

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of his death, okay? 
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sort of, you know, play put it 
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Or something like that. 
And he said, no, this is an 

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Edinburgh show. 
So you wrote that and ended up 

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doing it for sort of four or 
five years and it went from a 

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kind of, you know, a shipping 
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Then you in Edinburgh, in its 
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Apollo shaftesbury Avenue and we
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Festival went to America with it
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Yeah. 
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well received considering that 
fans have Bill Hicks can be 

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quite touchy about. 
How you treat their, yeah. 

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So we, yeah, we did. 
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I think we didn't, we didn't 
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and it was looking at what bill 
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his death. 
When so much was the same as, as

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the Trinity had passed away. 
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smoking? 
Yeah, actually fine. 

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Weirdly, I mean, I did smoke on 
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I had smoked as a student in a 
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and early 20s. 
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cigarettes are shown for a kind 
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that's, that's not brilliant, 
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particularly great for the 
health or anything, but it was 

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just a question of lighting them
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drugs you know, just to just at 
the the occasional point so you 

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didn't look too like too much of
a charlatan. 

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So was it being in Edinburgh 
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Is that where you met Jeremy? 
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little bit early. 
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various sort of Comedy things 
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around London. 
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Richard directed me in a show 
and he was, you know, a group 

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called The Four Horsemen, which 
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And they did some little TV 
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And Margaret was very much 
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connection, and she was doing a 
absolutely brilliant show called

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the Congress of oddities. 
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great things such Absolutely. 
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Jeremy as well. 
Jeremy and I were in a band 

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called The Dead Val. 
Kilmer's for a wild and 

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Jeremy's. 
Know my dad fell Kilmer's. 

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Yeah. 
It was, that was a result. 

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That was a result of a dream. 
A fever dream. 

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Probably after a very late night
in Edinburgh and yeah, he's 

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Jeremy's a fantastic keyboard 
player can play absolutely 

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anything yet. 
Anything you want to any given 

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moment, so he was a great person
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He's coming back at you in a few
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In fact, him and Paul 
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Yeah, pull. 
Yeah good. 

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Yes, and cyclists. 
Take the Trap. 

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They were doing stuff as the 
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salmon with damage. 
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point of every Edinburgh but I'm
absolutely absolutely. 

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I'm just looking at because 
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done television as well. 
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earliest roles, very dear to my 
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The murder of Roger. 
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Oh yes Poirot. 
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I'm still gonna still get checks
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Because he's been repeated in 
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so yeah that was a great 
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fun to do and you know working 
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Sushi. 
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before weirdly at Plymouth 
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Okay. 
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and so was really Jackson who 
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Yeah, we had a jolly old time. 
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That's fun. 
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Okay. 
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in contact through the Jeremy 
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are a fan of the goons. 
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come about in terms of most 
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or pair? 
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Is that the case with you? 
It is very very much. 

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So I can't quite remember so I 
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dad's copy of goon but not 
forgotten. 

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Yeah which was the year, my 
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having released in 1967 which 
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an author on side one and 
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The White Man's Burden which 
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on side too and I can't quite 
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record collection, put this on 
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there. 
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have discovered the goons 
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remember if it if I'd already 
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by that point, because I did dad
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uproariously at it, and I would 
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even when there was some sort of
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And obviously, I knew Harry from
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programs and is his various 
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would have known. 
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Pink Panther films. 
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When you don't know who but when
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them for the first time, I don't
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or whatever I was when I first 
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force this on me I went and 
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and I became slightly obsessed 
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out the scripts, you know, and 
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And I wrote to spike with a gun 
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kindly. 
Lee responded to and was very 

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nice. 
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that kind of stuff. 
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the album and and it sort of 
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and it had a very good record 
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goon shows on there, and I think
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pick of the coons being on. 
Radio 4 ready? 

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Well, whichever jam it was so 
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that weekend as well. 
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C60 cassettes with a couple of 
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shows at best, to listen, to 
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records. 
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were looking up to pick up on 
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Yeah, so yeah. 
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about those particular shows. 
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we're going to talk about 
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only since the, since the Goon 
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the Lagoon show compendium CDs 
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shows. 
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internal girl drink, that's it 
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pre BBC yeah, albums were 
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filtered, sure removed. 
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people could get back in the 
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the BBC, official BBC releases. 
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of shows that had seemed to have
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them even when needed first, get
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sure some of the replays on 
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of not Elena. 
Guilty would have been there, 

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but I think that in a lot of 
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out, the questions of taste and 
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So yes, you put he says using a 
euphemism. 

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But yeah, so very early on 
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kind of slightly probably died 
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30s. 
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you've been able to get hold of 
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real Obsession again. 
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you know, you're a couple of 
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more or less the same age our 
Tails. 

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Yes. 
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until my 20s and then that died 
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And then I've come back to it 
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years and hence this podcast. 
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And I always ask guests this 
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We one of these that would skip 
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did you listen to It's geniusly 
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So when I first got them I would
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actually, in a lot of the show's
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of shows I heard him. 
I did quite like the tunes that 

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girl dreams doing. 
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because I've heard them so 
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I will skip over. 
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or hmm, quintet format, 
particularly towards the end, he

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was playing quite a lot of, you 
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And what would have, what would 
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I suppose, a jersey take on rock
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That was again. 
That's my dad's ear as music. 

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The old Ray, I find a little bit
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But particularly if there's a 
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song that I don't really have 
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listen and you know I haven't 
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That's good. 
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my shoe which I'd never heard 
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occasionally he'll do something 
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does when the Red Robin comes 
Bob Bob coming along and Are, 

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you know, he's arrangement of 
that is quite Jolly, but I have 

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to say, in the main, I listen to
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in my car, I drive a lot between
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generally skip over mainly 
because I'm just looking forward

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to getting to the next bit of 
the, of the actual games. 

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So, but now, I mean, they're a 

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very important part, I do, you 
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I'm sure there are people who 
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going. 
Oh no. 

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You got to listen to the whole 
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familiar with all of them. 
And I'm, I do Preciate their 

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contribution, but I must have 
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Now, I do tend to skip over them
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I listen to them more. 
I mean, I used to skip them 

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often but like, for example, the
song that Ray performs in this 

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show today. 
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Which was yeah, which he wrote 
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And it's it's really catchy, 
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clue when I count your kisses 
and Adam to me. 

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Sighs. 
I recommend without love love. 

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I reckon. 
It's love. 

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Love love. 
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your eyes. 
I don't know how long a piece of

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string is how many waves upon 
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It is an active particular when 
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I don't eat maxed actually read 
any of his contributions but he 

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does some songs by the written 
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Fascinating thing is one of 
them, I can't remember what show

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it's in but I I find that 
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that's spikes old wartime friend
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interesting. 
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as the CD collection sits, 
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So. 
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Yeah. 
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Of course who inspired Yin Tong?
Yuan Tong. 

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Yes indeed Jim Tom. 
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another big thing that really 
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Woman was, I did a degree in 
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to go and do yourself. 
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more war Memoirs for radio. 
All right. 

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it's just to be used internally 
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drama department. 
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Brilliant. 
Okay. 

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Okay, so I got to play. 
I got to play spike is nice. 

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Excellent. 
I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw 

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something at you now. 
Sure. 

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Okay. 
Didn't you have not prepared for

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this and so, you know, you might
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can come back to it at the end 
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the what time is it? 
Eccles sequence? 

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That is, it's held up his fault.
Yes. 

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will use to illustrate goon 
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overused, in my opinion, a 
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And I know that there are, there
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my head that's that heresy. 
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goon show? 
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Echoes and blue bottle? 
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sequence that you would put up 
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goons, there's a great one. 
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section with Nettie and Echoes 
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White Man's Burden, which will 
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I'm sure, I think that's an I 
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section. 
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Standalone sections as well. 
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bottle, but equals is by far my 
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sodalite me and I think it's a, 
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Contender. 
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Charlie's as well wear em. 
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floor room, 3 to meet Crown, who
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crumbs got there by skipping, a 
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And again, that's another a 
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by think. 
What is it that I like to pour 

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myself. 
Who sent you up here? 

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You didn't and you've come to 
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17. 
We're back where we started. 

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What do you send me up to the 
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For the get me good. 
You wait a minute. 

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To get up there before me. 
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Get that cab. 
I've got a good mind to tell the

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author. 
No, no, don't do that. 

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Game might have me killed up in 
a later chapter, don't I? 

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Look mr. 
Crumb Well, that time is 

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scrutinize you with an intense 
scrutiny before we get started 

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talking about insurance, The 
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wanted, if you can just indulge 
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Jazz what last week on the show?
I played host to Chris Smith and

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Chris was one of the leading 
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preservation society. 
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that. 
Institution and the history of 

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it basically. 
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received and people. 
People really, really enjoyed 

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that episode, which is great. 
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because during the course of the
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very early meeting in a pub with
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and he said that It was 
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there covering this meeting and 
and wrote an article for punch 

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magazine about the evening, 
okay? 

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And friend of the show and for 
my guest, John Williams, he 

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managed to find this punch 
article actually sent. 

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He sent it to me and I'm not 
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is quite lengthy. 
But I just wanted to read out a 

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few extracts if that's okay, 
because it's quite interesting. 

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It's interesting in the sense 
that because it's from September

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79, okay? 
And as you will hear, it's 

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amazing how people just didn't 
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seemingly and you'll you'll see 
what I mean in a minute. 

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Okay, so the the writer is 
Jonathan sale and the article is

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is called the men in the goons, 
which is terrible terrible. 

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Yeah. 
But But it begins in 30 years 

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time. 
We'll bands of devotees gather 

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to listen to Dusty recordings of
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listeners as yet. 
Unscheduled. 

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Bandy catchphrases from the 
Navy. 

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Lark, will we look back to the 
70s as the Golden Age of some 

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others do have mm Happy Ever 
After and Robin's Nest. 

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Maybe some others do have them. 
The other two have been happy 

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ever afterwards the early. 
Yeah. 

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Terry and June wasn't it? 
Yeah. 

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It goes on any futurologist, who
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rulers. 
Buttered would give that a low 

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rating on the probability scale,
but any Observer of the upstairs

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room of the green coat boy 
Westminster on the second 

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Tuesday of the month? 
Would notice a gathering of the 

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fans of the Goon show a program 
dead and buried two decades ago.

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They came from the greater 
London area from Kent and in the

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case of one loyal lad from 
Guernsey there was a security 

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man at Vauxhall, Motors. 
And a music writer. 

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There are loads of school age. 
There was Mike company thus the 

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society's Chief steamer. 
He goes on to say spike Milligan

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was walking through the door, it
is the et al descending on a 

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Muslim. 
Playgroup Rod Stewart joining a 

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convoy of mods on a scooter trip
to South End General Hague in a 

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school. 
Cadet forces. 

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Field Day Milligan began with 
apologies for his absence. 

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Over the last seven years, I've 
gotten it of a manager and when 

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your letters arrived she puts 
them under the Was for 

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Underpants it may well be true 
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Are You Being Served could 
launch himself into impromptu 

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one-man sketches that had me, 
not only forgetting, but quite 

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unable to move the pen on the 
notebook. 

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It could be that Larry Grayson 
is Able by the movement of his 

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eyes alone to parody to Dreadful
effect. 

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A familiar character, I do not 
doubt the desert, Connor is 

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perfectly capable of producing 
an architect word play, without 

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having it written down in front 
of him with hyphens between the 

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syllables and phonetic. 
Creation where necessary it's it

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goes on. 
In this vein. 

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Milligan says that there is no 
question of a goon Revival 

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sellers gets a million pounds 
for film. 

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He's not going to come along to 
the BBC for 75 quid and could 

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you speak up mr. 
Sellars does one of the audience

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names an actor. 
Now connected with the queue 

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epics, does such-and-such have 
trouble remembering his lines. 

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He has trouble remembering 
himself. 

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He asked me today who he was, I 
gave him three guesses. 

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And he still got it wrong. 
I wonder who that is. 

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I wonder if that was Bob Todd or
even David Lodge. 

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Yeah. 
Come loose, or maybe. 

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Yeah, Spike was serious about 
the whale should be saved over 

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population. 
Should be stopped and Michael 

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been team Banting. 
It seemed Warren Old etonian Tie

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and said that he Milligan had no
talent. 

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I don't believe that for a 
another way. 

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The appreciation society was 
Julie appreciative of loan, Of 

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this Rift between the stars and 
the tapes word, the cameras 

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flashed. 
And the books were offered for 

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autographs. 
It is taken 30 years for Spike 

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and Society to get to grips. 
Will he come again in? 

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Say, 20 years time. 
That may be difficult, but if 

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all else fails, I'll send a b. 
And so it's just interesting is 

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that the touch? 
It's like the goons is all but 

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forgotten, really? 
And it's just a small group of 

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men. 
Do the Beatles suffered from 

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this a bit in this one. 
Absolutely. 

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I mean, there was nothing like 
and I'm a massive Beatles fan 

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and I remember them releasing 
all the singles, again, in 1982 

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starting with madhu, and there 
was a big thing saying it's 20 

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years ago today. 
And I have a sinking don't 20, 

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you got 20 years, that's a 
lifetime and but but the not 

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that those singles didn't make 
some ripples in the charts but 

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there was nothing like the 
interest at the time I suppose 

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because people that lived 
through it, a lot of people who 

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lived through it was still 
relatively young, maybe they're 

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I don't know. 
There wasn't there certainly 

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wasn't the obsession but that 
that has really exploded. 

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But even there that I don't 
think with the Beatles, you 

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would have got quite the same 
sort of skating. 

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And look, I know he was 1 over 
this chat writing there but he 

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it feels like it started from a 
point of view of, you know, this

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is this is ever to Daft and you 
know, why are we doing it? 

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Exactly. 
And they must have been up 

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there. 
Must always have been obsessive 

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about stuff. 
It just only I suppose, it's 

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only really in the last 20 or 30
years where it's become TV shows

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and radio and kind of Pop 
Culture ephemera and before that

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it would have been and spotters 
and cars. 

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And you know, who knows what? 
This is just off the top of my 

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head now. 
But do you think Star Wars? 

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Triggered, proper fandom. 
If you know what I mean. 

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Yeah, I suppose before that. 
It's hard to really see where 

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the obsessives were. 
I mean Doctor Who Doctor Who? 

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Maybe although even then I mean 
I think there were Doctor Who 

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had a lot of fans amongst 
children but you would have you 

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would have been more 
hard-pressed to find large 

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groups of older fans gathering 
together in the Kind of zealous 

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ways that they do now that, I 
mean, I went to, I went to 

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Longley in 82 for the 2008 III, 
sorry for the 20-year 

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convention, and it would still 
very, very largely. 

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It felt to me anyway. 
Like, you know, mums and dads, 

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shepherding, their kids around, 
as much as anything, as much as 

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the sort of, you know, t-shirt 
wearing books to be signed, you 

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know, rare video collecting 
obsessives that you sort of see 

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More now. 
Yeah. 

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And that's I'm not that. 
Sorry that's not a that's not a 

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judgment on their night. 
I'm just saying it felt like it 

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was a much more of a it was 
still kind of more of a 

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children's thing. 
But yeah, yeah. 

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That's a very good point. 
I think Star Wars probably was 

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one of those first where, you 
know, you really had to buy the 

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T-shirt, have the record. 
If I found a copy, I was going 

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through my dad's records to get 
bun-bun or forgotten. 

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And I found a copy of a double 
album of Star Wars. 

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Score. 
And I think it must have clips 

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of the of the dialogue and as 
well, right? 

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The John Williams album with a 
big picture of Darth on the 

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front, he's Daft helmet, and 
it's got a poster inside and 

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stuff like that. 
And I was thinking God, that's 

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probably worth about. 
That's probably where 50 Quid 

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now and have to let us. 
Yeah, I mean, I have to say Star

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Wars obsession is something that
because I was 7 or 8 and still 

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was came out and I was obsessed 
with style words, but that was 

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something that kind of really. 
He died out with my, with the 

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end of the first three films. 
I know there's a lot of people 

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of my age and I decided my age 
who, you know, will still go to 

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the launch of every Star Wars 
film and Camp outside and all 

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those kind of things. 
So weirdly weirdly that at, that

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was a childhood childhood 
Obsession that sort of didn't 

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continue for me. 
I again, people people will be 

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reeling at this but I've never 
watched, I've only ever watched 

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the first Star Wars film. 
Okay. 

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The Originals. 
Yeah. 

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Because, you know, yeah. 
And that was about 55 years ago,

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wound. 
And I didn't think much of it at

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all. 
And so I didn't bother, I think 

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00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:47,300
it is for. 
Yeah, I think it was one of 

450
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:51,400
those things that you had to 
kind of find at the time or in 

451
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,500
your Youth and then get terribly
attached to it and at the time 

452
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:59,600
it was so different, you know, 
it was it was like before that 

453
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:02,400
or a Around that same time, my 
other Obsession just to give you

454
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,200
some sort of context. 
In terms of I bought. 

455
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,600
I went to the film more than 
once and bought the book and 

456
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,200
bought the soundtrack album and 
the comic book album as well was

457
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,500
Bugsy Malone. 
So that gives you that in Greece

458
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:20,800
was the next big one as well. 
So there was really nothing like

459
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,400
Star Wars at all. 
At the time. 

460
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,400
I mean there have been science 
fiction films obviously and they

461
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,300
had been shooting Shoot Em Up 
films and heroes and heroines 

462
00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:30,800
but it really I think touched 
her a nerve and If you come to 

463
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,100
it late I think sort of it's 
like people who are told how 

464
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:37,900
brilliant with that I is and 
then watch it in their kind of 

465
00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:40,300
30s or 40s and sort of go. 
Really? 

466
00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:43,300
Yeah, I think you have to find 
it at a certain time in your 

467
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:49,000
life, perhaps but yeah, 
interesting point cool. 

468
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,700
Okay. 
So let's, let's get started. 

469
00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:54,700
Talking about insurance. 
The White Man's Burden. 

470
00:27:54,800 --> 00:28:00,200
Yes. 
Which is the 21st episode of The

471
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,700
seventh Series. 
Yeah, broadcast 28th of February

472
00:28:04,700 --> 00:28:09,100
1957 and written by Spike and 
Larry Stevens. 

473
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:16,900
Now, as we we both commented 
pre-recording there wasn't 

474
00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:21,000
because I do like to include 
historical context and talk 

475
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,700
about what was going on in the 
world when the show's went out. 

476
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:29,100
And there wasn't a huge amount 
on that day there was there was 

477
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:35,200
some notable Births, most 
significantly the actor John 

478
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,200
Tudor. 
Oh, you know, John Tudor. 

479
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,100
Yes, of course. 
Yeah. 

480
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:44,400
And do the right thing and 
Miller's Crossing a brilliant. 

481
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,800
I mean, I love the Coen brothers
and he's one of the one of the 

482
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:49,400
yeah, company. 
I suppose. 

483
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,700
Yeah. 
And most famously, obviously, in

484
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,100
The Big Lebowski, he said all 
the little girl that Cameo 

485
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:59,000
turning that. 
Yes, indeed. 

486
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,800
And of course, he was, Barton 
Fink. 

487
00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:02,200
Yes. 
Absolutely. 

488
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,100
And he was in one of their best 
films O Brother. 

489
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:07,200
Where Art Thou? 
Yeah. 

490
00:29:07,700 --> 00:29:09,400
And I'm also very fond of the 
film quiz. 

491
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,900
Show. 
Yes. 

492
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:12,100
Quiz show, dude. 
Yes. 

493
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:14,200
Which refines. 
Mmm. 

494
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,400
Yeah. 
He's very good at that. 

495
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:18,200
He played the, the sort of the, 
the, the schlub. 

496
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,400
Yes. 
Jody's the schmuck. 

497
00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:25,400
Yeah, it's very difficult to. 
I think that was an excellent 

498
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,700
performance because it was so 
difficult for he wasn't, he was 

499
00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:31,800
a cow. 
To who you had sympathy for, but

500
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,000
he wasn't a sympathetic 
character now if you see what I 

501
00:29:34,008 --> 00:29:37,900
mean is, you know. 
So it was, it made for a very 

502
00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:42,100
much more interesting film and 
he was great in that dude. 

503
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:48,300
Cindy Wilson of The B-52s was by
our and her mother's beehive 

504
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,700
because yeah absolutely sort of 
going down the scale of Fame 

505
00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:57,300
here. 
Phil Gould who was a member of 

506
00:29:57,300 --> 00:29:58,800
level 42? 
Yeah, of course. 

507
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,400
Yeah. 
Ainsley harriott has been told 

508
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,000
all the great in the good. 
Yes. 

509
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,200
The day before the show went out
Timothy spall was born. 

510
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,100
Okay, the day after the show 
went out, nobody was born. 

511
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:17,200
Well I'm sure somebody was born.
Yeah the Cat in the Hat was 

512
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,500
published dr. 
Zeus. 

513
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:21,900
Hey, Lord. 
And the Everly Brothers 

514
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:22,800
recorded. 
Bye-bye. 

515
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,500
Love which obviously was a 
hugely significant song. 

516
00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:27,900
I mean I was a good time, 
wouldn't it? 

517
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:31,400
57 was a good time? 
I mean, What's interesting about

518
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,300
insurance is that as far as I 
know and I could be quite wrong 

519
00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:39,000
about this, this is got one of 
its only. 

520
00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:42,000
It's got the one of the Moon 
shows only direct references to 

521
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,200
Elvis in it. 
Yes. 

522
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:49,100
Yes. 
In that Wallace, sings Wallace 

523
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:51,800
the pelvis. 
They call him and put the hell, 

524
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,100
put that pelvis back, says 
submit again in the background. 

525
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:56,200
And of course, that's you know, 
Elvis Elvis was. 

526
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,600
So it's a sort of, indirect 
reference, reference to Elvis 

527
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:02,100
all Yo Wallace actually seen. 
See you later alligator, which 

528
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:06,800
of course was still hanging in 
the comments, but at he was 

529
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,600
really only. 
It was only really in 56 that he

530
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,800
became well-known Surrey British
audiences. 

531
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,000
So it but it was its this is 
such a really exciting time. 

532
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,900
I mean things are changing so 
much and 57 I think. 

533
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,700
And what we just had a new prime
minister as well Harold. 

534
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:27,700
MacMillan are just come in and 
it was things were starting to 

535
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:31,500
turn the way of the young. 
Person a bit, I think. 

536
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:34,200
And the goons might have been a 
little bit part about, you know,

537
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,800
I really do think that sort of 
anarchic and, you know, 

538
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,000
anti-establishment kind of vibe 
even though it was done in a 

539
00:31:41,008 --> 00:31:42,700
very light-hearted way. 
I think that might have been 

540
00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:47,700
part of that kind of drag 
steady. 

541
00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:51,600
This is your old polish, the 
pelvis again. 

542
00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:54,900
Wilsonville hot modern Rhythm 
for you. 

543
00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:57,300
So let's get help with my latest
recording. 

544
00:31:57,700 --> 00:32:04,200
See you later alligator. 
See you later. 

545
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:27,900
Alligator crocodile 
you. 

546
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:32,200
Mad fool Graceland Are you out 
of your mind? 

547
00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:39,800
Yeah and the day after the show 
was recorded Buddy, Holly and 

548
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,500
the Crickets recorded. 
That'll be the day Stacy, I mean

549
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:45,000
for rock and roll it really 
wasn't. 

550
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,100
Absolutely. 
You know you're right in the 

551
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:50,800
heart of it aren't you in 50 
early 57 you mentioned, Bill 

552
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,800
Haley. 
Hmm the the night the show was 

553
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,200
recorded Insurance. 
The White Man's Burden Bill 

554
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,100
Haley was appearing in Kilburn. 
Lord. 

555
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:04,800
Yes, he was he was doing a UK 
tour. 

556
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,400
Obviously. 
Yes, right at the beginning of 

557
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,800
the show, greenslade sings. 
See you later. 

558
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,300
Alligator or sings is maybe a 
bit generous. 

559
00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:17,200
Yes. 
And I'd like to think that he 

560
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,600
went home after that recording, 
and sort of buzzing. 

561
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:29,000
Well and it said walked in and 
said mother because I imagine he

562
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,000
would call his wife mother. it's
a mother and he's developed a 

563
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,800
northern accent and you can 
imagine him saying like I sang 

564
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,900
rock and roll tonight and they 
called me the pelvis and 

565
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:45,700
everybody cheered and applauded 
everybody cheered and his wife 

566
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:48,200
probably I don't know why I just
got it in my head I've got this 

567
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:53,100
Peggy Mount figure standing 
there with her arms crossed 

568
00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:59,800
regarding her husband with a 
basilisk glare rock-and-roll you

569
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:01,500
My boy. 
Yes. 

570
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,500
And say ye that goon show the 
devil's work. 

571
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:09,000
Something like that. 
What's really bothering him? 

572
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:13,800
What's interesting is that. 
So obviously been all the, my 

573
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,800
cap sister people. 
Don't let it get cold Wallace 

574
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:20,800
less. 
Yeah, I've Regan twice. 

575
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,600
It's a, it's a girl cat and 
she's named after Wallis Simpson

576
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,699
actually, but yeah, sorry if she
makes some noise, you'll have to

577
00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:28,300
excuse me. 
And I'll start that again. 

578
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,699
You know, what's interesting? 
I think with that is that 

579
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:35,400
obviously particularly in the 
fifth series, they've been an 

580
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,400
awful lot of, you know, morning 
green sliders and, you know, 

581
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,800
keep sending in your checks and 
all that. 

582
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,600
But that kind of did sort of the
Wallace greenslade fan club in 

583
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,800
Wallace's head and sort of 
disappeared out of the show. 

584
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,699
And this is sort of back to, you
know, this is back to that era 

585
00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:56,600
that kind of our come on Wallace
fans, let's hear you screaming 

586
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,500
steady, girls steady? 
And yeah. 

587
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:03,300
So that's As a sort of, little 
reference back to his, his, his 

588
00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:05,900
when they made, first made him 
really Central to the show in 

589
00:35:05,900 --> 00:35:09,700
the fifth Series. 
Yeah, and he was always game for

590
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:11,500
anything. 
Oh yeah, course on the show, 

591
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:12,400
wasn't it? 
Yeah, very much. 

592
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,200
So. 
And around the time that the 

593
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,000
show went out. 
So Harry was in the middle of 

594
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,700
filming Davey. 
The film David. 

595
00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:24,000
Yeah. 
Peter and Michael Banting. 

596
00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:26,900
A halfway through its. 
Yes. 

597
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:39,100
It's the Catholic both appeared 
on the Eamonn Andrews. 

598
00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:42,400
Show gosh. 
Sadly it recording does not 

599
00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:47,000
exist. 
Yeah that is a shame and as you 

600
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,500
say the show came out on goon 
but not forgotten LP which I 

601
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:52,700
think's got a terrible cover. 
Yeah. 

602
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,400
I think it did make me look at 
it. 

603
00:35:57,100 --> 00:36:00,200
I suppose it's very much of its 
era think it was released in 67,

604
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,300
but it's got to sort of floating
head. 

605
00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:05,700
If you don't know, it's got two 
floating head pictures of Harry 

606
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:08,600
and Peter and then they seem to 
be sort of half looking at 

607
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,200
Spike, who's stood in a bath 
with a raincoat on. 

608
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,400
And it is a bit weird, you would
have thought they only got a 

609
00:36:14,408 --> 00:36:15,600
picture of all three of them 
together. 

610
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,600
However it's different. 
It's certainly not one of the 

611
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,000
typical ones of them all with 
their fingers in their ears or 

612
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:23,700
lighting. 
Up the leaks or whatever. 

613
00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:26,200
So makes it, I'll actually the 
one of lighting up the leaks on 

614
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,300
the back cover. 
But, you know, it's, it's not 

615
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:32,400
brilliant but it's striking. 
It definitely made me pick it 

616
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,800
out of my dad's record 
collection and have a look at 

617
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,100
it. 
Yeah, as you say, it's the 

618
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:41,200
B-side 26 Charlie's in search of
an author, which is my all-time 

619
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,700
favorite yet. 
Unfortunately, that I know 

620
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,900
because I do you want to come 
on, but that's some acts Gaffney

621
00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:49,800
has already bagged that. 
Yeah, well, I do it's quite 

622
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,600
understandable because that's 
his favorite I did. 

623
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,100
And I couldn't work out why that
I don't think it was in his. 

624
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,700
I don't think it was in your top
20 when you'd have the the 

625
00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:05,500
listeners top 29 August. 
And I find that remarkable. 

626
00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:09,200
I just think it's, it's 
absolutely, I think insurance is

627
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,400
a fantastic show. 
That's also in my top ten, but I

628
00:37:11,408 --> 00:37:14,900
think six Charlie's, maybe it's 
just because it's the first one 

629
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:19,900
I ever listened to, but I think 
it is absolutely the pacing, the

630
00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:25,700
gags, the timing, The fact it's 
sort of got a vaguely coherent 

631
00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:29,100
plot and a punchline. 
I just think it works so 

632
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:31,900
brilliantly, but I think 
Insurance runs it very, very 

633
00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:33,200
close. 
And it's as I say it's 

634
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,100
definitely one of my top 10. 
Yeah. 

635
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:39,200
From my memory, six Charlie's 
did get a number of, I mean 

636
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,800
there was a huge number of 
votes. 

637
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,600
Sure. 
That I received and I know that 

638
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:47,400
that was it, that was probably 
in the bottling under the 20s as

639
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,200
I like that. 
Sure. 

640
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,700
Sure. 
And apparently for the lp Spike,

641
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,700
Use those two shows. 
So I wonder what his criteria. 

642
00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:00,700
Yeah was for that but but both 
strong shows. 

643
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:01,500
Absolutely. 
Yeah. 

644
00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:05,900
Now the title is a yeah 
problematic. 

645
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:08,800
Yeah. 
Do you know anything about The 

646
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,600
White Man's Burden which is oh 
yeah. 

647
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:13,000
Poem by Rudyard Kipling? 
Yes it was. 

648
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,800
I did. 
He coined the phrase that I 

649
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,100
don't know, but I know it's 
about it. 

650
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:22,500
Hit the it's the Assumption 
presumption. 

651
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:28,300
That it is the job. 
It was the job of the white 

652
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:32,200
European man to educate the poor
and huddled masses. 

653
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,000
That they discovered in other 
continents who possibly weren't 

654
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:42,300
are like skin. 
Yeah, I mean to be fair that has

655
00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:47,100
very little reference to this 
particular show but yeah it was 

656
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:50,600
a, it's a terrible phrase, it's 
a terrible kind of idea that, 

657
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,300
you know, we had to go and 
civilize all of These races, 

658
00:38:55,300 --> 00:39:00,100
whose land, we went over and 
laid claim to, and, and pillaged

659
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:04,800
etcetera, Etc. 
Yes, it gives gives the is very 

660
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,200
much say that the British Empire
was a benevolent, entity not 

661
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,800
designed to enrich the British 
of course, but to improve the 

662
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,600
lot of its subjects. 
Yes. 

663
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,200
We're doing this for you, dear 
boy? 

664
00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:16,300
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

665
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,700
It reminds me very much of that.
Eddie Izzard. 

666
00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:22,600
Does that section where? 
I can't remember where it is. 

667
00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:25,800
He's talking about that, they 
first land, British settlers 

668
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,400
first land somewhere. 
And he says, you know, and and 

669
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,000
the locals that the natives say,
This Is Our Land and we will 

670
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,800
never end the British. 
Sailor says everybody flag 

671
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:40,400
features plants his flag in the 
there's no, no, it's ours now, 

672
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,100
you know, no flag. 
So yeah, it's that kind of 

673
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:47,600
attitude. 
I feel that it's I mean, 

674
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,800
obviously Spike was probably, 
he's taking the piss out of it 

675
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,400
but it's that's That's the 
unfortunate connection. 

676
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,000
I have to ask it. 
Are you a fan of Kipling? 

677
00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:06,700
I've never kept old. 
It's okay, go, I do love. 

678
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:11,100
So I do like some of his poetry.
I do just from an entertainment 

679
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:12,600
value. 
Obviously, what you don't want 

680
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,600
to look too deeply into what's 
going on underneath it, but, but

681
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:23,300
I'm a massive fan purely because
of the film of The man who would

682
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:26,300
be king, yes. 
And, you know, and I really 

683
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:30,300
oughta and classic. 
So one of my top 10 films of all

684
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:36,300
time, so I so indirectly. 
Yes, I wouldn't seek him out. 

685
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:38,400
I wouldn't really want to spend 
a lot of time. 

686
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000
I wouldn't have him in my life, 
that much, but that's not a 

687
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,900
skating thing. 
It's just not my, it's just not 

688
00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:46,400
my taste and, you know, the same
with the Empire know. 

689
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,500
There's, I think it obviously, 
did more bad things than good, 

690
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:55,100
but I'm one of those people who 
feels like there's Nuance to 

691
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:59,800
everything and while in general,
it was, it was, it's a thing 

692
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,700
that we shouldn't be very proud 
of. 

693
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:04,200
There were certainly things that
came out of it, that weren't, 

694
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,900
you know, that, that had a 
positive effect, exactly. 

695
00:41:08,900 --> 00:41:11,100
Yeah, absolutely. 
Yes. 

696
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:14,700
I mean, I don't really have 
never really read much Kipling. 

697
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:21,000
I know the Jungle Book. 
Yeah, I know his son was killed 

698
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,300
in the first World War. 
I know that Kim philby because 

699
00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:29,000
Kim philby is real name is 
Harold bernick named Kim after 

700
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,500
the the boys spy in that Kipling
novel. 

701
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:34,600
Yeah, Kim. 
Yeah. 

702
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:40,400
And the cakes of course guess 
obligatory reference to cakes 

703
00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:43,600
when you when you mentioned 
Kipling, I don't know who did 

704
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,500
the 70s voice overs but they 
were some of the most soothing 

705
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:48,500
things you could ever hear on 
television. 

706
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:51,700
The old the old gentleman, who 
did the voiceover you don't 

707
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:52,900
know. 
Who did those now? 

708
00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:57,100
Go on any idea, you'd know this.
I can tell you the actor. 

709
00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:59,400
James Hater Hater. 
Okay. 

710
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,400
Now, you know, when I was 
reading out that article 

711
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,700
earlier, yes, out the, the, the 
rather unimpressed gentlemen, 

712
00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:10,700
you went to watch the yeah, Mike
Gathering. 

713
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,700
And you mentioned the cast of 
Are You Being Served now? 

714
00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:18,800
James James Hayter was for a 
short period, a member of the 

715
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,500
cast of a being served here. 
Played. 

716
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:27,900
He was essentially the mr. 
Granger character, when I've had

717
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:29,500
a rough departed. 
He was mr. 

718
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:32,000
Tubbs. 
I think that would have been 

719
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,800
after my, after my time of 
watching will faint famously. 

720
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,000
Mr. Tubbs was in for maybe a 
series. 

721
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:44,200
I think my friend Gary would be 
able to tell me about this but 

722
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,600
he was also at the same time he 
was doing the Kipling. 

723
00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:48,000
Add rice overs. 
Yeah. 

724
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,300
And Kipling the company. 
Did not want to be associated 

725
00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:57,100
with something as smutty and 
lewd as a being served so they 

726
00:42:57,100 --> 00:43:00,900
paid James hater. 
They basically agreed that they 

727
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:02,900
would pay him what he would have
been paid. 

728
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:06,800
Yeah to appear in a big served 
not to appear good Lord. 

729
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,200
So he as on top of his normal 
wage for for the Kipling 

730
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,900
adverts. 
Well I'm sure he's very least. 

731
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:17,700
He was delighted speaking. 
Speaking with an occasional 

732
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:19,800
actor, getting something to 
getting some paid for doing 

733
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,100
nothing. 
Is he It's one of the main AIMS 

734
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:27,600
in life, so that's pretty good. 
Absolutely, absolutely, so. 

735
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,900
Okay, finally, we start talking 
about the episode. 

736
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:33,700
All right, we get, we get, yes. 
Obviously we get greenslade at 

737
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:37,500
the beginning, then you get 
sellers on the old Joanna piano 

738
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:38,600
of the grant. 
Oh yes. 

739
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:05,800
Yes. 
We that haunting sellers theme 

740
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,600
sounding, the death knell of all
piano postal tuition courses. 

741
00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:12,300
We present this week's play 
entitled and we quote from this 

742
00:44:12,300 --> 00:44:15,500
suicide note Insurance, The 
White Man's Burden. 

743
00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:18,700
Next week I'm covering the film 
Hoffman. 

744
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:20,900
Mmm, sellers film. 
Half wondering if you've seen, I

745
00:44:20,908 --> 00:44:24,500
haven't actually, but sellers 
plays the piano, the character 

746
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:27,300
that sellers plays plays the 
piano in that rather well. 

747
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:31,100
So I gather the sellers could 
play well but whenever whenever 

748
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:33,500
you whenever you play the piano 
the Goon show was always yes 

749
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:36,100
slightly off-key yeah. 
These sort of four chords 

750
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,000
basically and nothing else you 
know? 

751
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,800
It was something that used to 
get again, used to get an awful 

752
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,600
lot. 
It feels like there's something 

753
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,000
you've got a lot in shows, in 
the fifth series, but you paid 

754
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,600
sort of slightly disappeared 
from the show till then, and 

755
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,000
then here he is, and I presume 
it's him playing underneath the 

756
00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:58,500
the Tom, the penguin singing, as
well. 

757
00:44:59,500 --> 00:45:01,400
I would imagine. 
So yeah, yeah. 

758
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,600
So we the scene begins with a 
flannel full, a child herself, 

759
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:10,000
they did long name. 
In flannel. 

760
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,900
Visiting the British Zoo now. 
What is the British Zoo? 

761
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,700
So not the London Zoo. 
I don't know. 

762
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:18,600
I mean the British to, I don't 
know, maybe it's just he just 

763
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,800
wanted a generic name but yeah, 
London Zoo. 

764
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,500
I would have thought and we have
we have William make cobblers as

765
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:28,400
the Zookeeper. 
Yeah. 

766
00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:31,800
What do you think about mate for
your favorite character of? 

767
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,200
Yeah, I really liked him and he 
sort of always very hard done by

768
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:41,300
and I think it's a great voice. 
What's I think what's 

769
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:46,200
interesting in this is that 
both, he and Jim sprigs who 

770
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,000
comes up in a minute, get as 
much kind of air time in this 

771
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,900
episode, as certainly, as blood 
mock probably is blissful as 

772
00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:57,900
well. 
So it's a real kind of, so it's 

773
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,400
all the major characters, get a 
get a bit of time in this show. 

774
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,000
But but mate and Jim Spriggs get
get as much. 

775
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:07,700
And I like I like with them and 
I think he's really good in. 

776
00:46:07,700 --> 00:46:09,300
This is where there's a there's 
a couple. 

777
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,800
Of really good lines of is in 
this, you know, what do you call

778
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,200
that once at the piano or calls 
him appear in his mate? 

779
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,500
He sings as well. 
Yeah name is all his own words 

780
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:22,700
to and I think that this whole 
piano at the same penguin thing.

781
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:26,500
So I noticed that in a couple of
earlier shows I was listening to

782
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,900
I was listening to mysterious 
punctuate the conquer earlier or

783
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,800
a couple of days ago and I think
there's a let the penguin out 

784
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,100
gag in that and I can't for the 
life of me work out how they do,

785
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:40,400
the penguin sound effect. 
I can't believe it when it's 

786
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,700
obviously in this one, it's not 
an actual penguin because he saw

787
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,700
he sort of singing but it's like
a, some sort of it's like 

788
00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:50,400
someone's got a strangulated 
balloon and a twisting it or 

789
00:46:50,408 --> 00:46:53,100
something that. 
Yeah, the amazing effect and you

790
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:56,100
get you could actually believe 
it was a penguin if yes, if it 

791
00:46:56,100 --> 00:47:01,000
wasn't singing. 
Yeah, he talks about kids, 

792
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,400
taking the boa constrictors home
hanging tiny laundry on them. 

793
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,700
Yes. 
Which I gather was improvised on

794
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:10,200
the day. 
Of recording, because in the 

795
00:47:10,207 --> 00:47:12,700
scriptwriters Lions, okay? 
All right. 

796
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:14,500
Yeah. 
Kids taking Lions own. 

797
00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:20,700
They might, this of Might, that 
of given the seed of the missing

798
00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:23,300
boa constrictor, it will 
exactly. 

799
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:25,900
Yes, because that, which I think
is a brilliant show and it never

800
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:26,900
gets talked to. 
Yeah. 

801
00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:29,100
And that, that comes up in a few
shows time. 

802
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:33,500
And I've got to say, actually, 
this whole the second half of 

803
00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:37,100
the seventh series, probably 
more than anything except the 

804
00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:40,800
first half of the fifth series 
is What I consider to be 

805
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,600
absolutely brilliant shows. 
I mean there's the odd sort of 

806
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,100
the odd failure, but I just 
think there's so many good shows

807
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:50,300
from some sort of, from the flea
onwards. 

808
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,400
You know, there are there's, 
it's a really, they're on a real

809
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,000
hot streak here. 
Yeah, there's a few. 

810
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,700
There's a little bit of what I 
would call filler. 

811
00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:02,700
I suppose radicals in 80 Days. 
Yeah, but yeah, but but, but you

812
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:04,600
are right. 
I mean, the rent collectors and 

813
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,300
web server dag. 
Absolutely great. 

814
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:08,700
I really like shifting Sands, 
it's what not dance, really 

815
00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:10,400
mention. 
Yeah, yes. 

816
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,600
At the conquer. 
This show Insurance White Man's 

817
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,900
Burden. 
I really I kill met. 

818
00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:16,800
My goon light. 
Yes. 

819
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,900
And of course, you've got ends 
on Plenty the series. 

820
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:21,000
And that's just been a one of 
the all-time greats. 

821
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,700
So yeah. 
Yeah. 

822
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,700
And yeah, and, and see you in 
the final full. 

823
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:30,600
Yeah. 
Is Enchanted by the Penguins and

824
00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:32,800
there's one called Jim one 
called Terrence? 

825
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:37,200
Yeah, I bet he's over here. 
Yeah, so that American Milligan.

826
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,300
And as he say you've got Tom, 
the penguin, playing the piano 

827
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,400
and and seagoing hits upon 
another ultimately fruitless and

828
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,800
and very soon forgotten making 
scheme to exploit Tom's Talent 

829
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,500
which made me think a little bit
little bit on the, you know, 

830
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:59,300
that famous Warner Brothers 
cartoon about the singing frog. 

831
00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:04,000
No, dancing singing frog. 
Do not know that one a day and 

832
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,300
this guy tries to exploit tries 
to make money off the back of 

833
00:49:08,300 --> 00:49:09,800
this frog that sings. 
Dances. 

834
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,700
But the problem is the Frog. 
Only sings and dances. 

835
00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:15,900
When this guy is on his own, he 
can do it in front of an 

836
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:17,800
audience. 
All right, now I don't think 

837
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,300
it's very good, but yes, it's 
seeking decides that he's going 

838
00:49:21,300 --> 00:49:26,100
to try and I guess by the 
penguin Tom and he goes to the 

839
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:30,400
curator of birds, which is he 
says, sprigs and sprigs looks up

840
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,500
in the penguin log. 
Yeah. 

841
00:49:33,500 --> 00:49:37,500
Which is a labored bag and and, 
and, and Spike. 

842
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,400
Ad-libs, it's a live show is 
that One. 

843
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,200
Yeah which I'm assuming means 
Larry wrote that. 

844
00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:46,900
Yeah, I think he would have been
quite happy to give inverted 

845
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:49,100
commas credit to any of the 
things he didn't like in the 

846
00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:52,100
script. 
This look, a look in this 

847
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:54,100
catalog. 
I don't want a cat penguin. 

848
00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:01,100
Look in the penguin long, it's a
lying. 

849
00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:04,600
I didn't write that one. 
He's which we skating about 

850
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,200
Larry. 
And I I'm, I'm sad about that 

851
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,700
because I feel like and I know 
John Morris has said in the past

852
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:15,100
you know that when that when 
Spike rights with someone they 

853
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:19,700
tend to sort of bring his more 
ridiculous Flights of Fancy down

854
00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:22,400
to earth a little bit more and 
that's that's generally speaking

855
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,600
quite a good thing and I think 
Larry is really sort of hard 

856
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,800
done by because some of the 
absolute caulking Classics are 

857
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:34,100
absolutely, you know, partly by 
his hand, at least spikes, 

858
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:39,000
always route, always was 
rewriting his own history and I 

859
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,800
think It's in subsequent years 
that he decided that no Larry 

860
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,800
was. 
Yeah, just the tiniest whatever.

861
00:50:46,300 --> 00:50:49,400
And what's interesting with this
as well is that it's sort of 

862
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,400
like the whole of the first five
minutes or so. 

863
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,600
Six minutes are setting up this 
whole I'm going to get this, you

864
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,700
know, I've seen this penguin, 
I'm going to getting on stage 

865
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,700
and then as you say, it's 
completely forgotten and the 

866
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:04,300
whole of the rest of the show 
has a quite tightly constructed 

867
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:09,200
and almost in real time play 
out, you know. 

868
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,500
It's one, it's one plot that 
sort of goes through almost in 

869
00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:15,500
real time. 
So it's just that, that sort of 

870
00:51:15,500 --> 00:51:17,900
first odd, five minutes. 
I wonder what how to spike make 

871
00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:22,100
the leap from Spigen Larry made 
the leap from there's a piano 

872
00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:24,200
playing penguin. 
That's a funny concept to 

873
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,100
actually I'm going to try and 
ensure that I'm going to try and

874
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:29,700
show the British Channel. 
Well yeah because it because you

875
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:33,500
think about it I'm just I'm sure
that the the concept the idea of

876
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:37,100
a piano playing penguin and see 
gun trying to make money off the

877
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:39,600
back of it would have sustained 
an entire A show. 

878
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:40,600
Yeah, I think it could have 
done. 

879
00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:44,600
But yeah like to say the mint 
work because he because notice 

880
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,100
told that the that Tom cost 20 
pounds of Ned's, only got 

881
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:51,000
eighteen Shillings. 
And then again mentions the 

882
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,900
money in that the dimension of 
that immediately closes down the

883
00:51:53,900 --> 00:51:56,300
entire penguin Direction. 
The show was absolutely. 

884
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:59,200
Yeah. 
And you get the Moriarty 

885
00:51:59,300 --> 00:52:01,100
arriving at two wishes. 
Yeah. 

886
00:52:01,300 --> 00:52:04,500
Yes. 
And again they've, they've got a

887
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:09,200
say again because they offer Ned
a bottle of water. 

888
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:14,200
Yeah, samples. 
Yes, that has shades of shades 

889
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,000
of immediately thinking of 
treasure in the lake. 

890
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,600
Yeah. 
And he and this times when he 

891
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,700
sort of drink sync with them as 
well, this quite often a thing. 

892
00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:28,000
You know, you know, they'll give
him something to drink and it's 

893
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,300
odd, isn't it? 
It's a sort of recurring Motif, 

894
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,300
even if it's only sort of three 
or four times. 

895
00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:35,800
But yeah, I do like the fact 
that he's sort of quite a 

896
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,700
connoisseur of it, though. 
What happens? 

897
00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:42,100
This is English Channel. 1902. 
Yeah, it's yeah, that's that's a

898
00:52:42,107 --> 00:52:44,300
slight slightly different take 
than their usual one. 

899
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:47,100
He's aware of what he's drinking
this time, which is quite a good

900
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:49,200
thing. 
And I like I've grown up, I've 

901
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,700
grown and I've grown fond de. 
I've said this many times. 

902
00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:54,000
I've grown a lot fonder of 
gripped by the Moriarty. 

903
00:52:54,500 --> 00:52:56,800
Now the Aged, I am now listening
to the shows. 

904
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:01,600
Again, I really like them. 
I mean again after Eccles, I 

905
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,000
would say, then they are 
actually my favorites and it's 

906
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,500
the scheming and also the sort 
of silly word play. 

907
00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:09,600
And, you know, the 
introductions. 

908
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,400
And this one is a cat is a 
cracker as well. 

909
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,900
Count Jimmy grip, labor 
exchange, Moriarty leaper 

910
00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:18,200
Supreme and all England crab 
Champion. 

911
00:53:21,100 --> 00:53:23,800
Absolutely no idea what he's 
doing with the crabs but I like 

912
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,700
the it's an interesting audial 
image. 

913
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,000
Labor exchange is such a drab. 
Yeah, it is Expression, isn't 

914
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,300
it? 
It's just, it just conjures up 

915
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,900
and I didn't an image. 
Didn't Eco didn't Spike called 

916
00:53:38,900 --> 00:53:42,000
sellers that and he star of 
stage screen and labor exchange.

917
00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:43,500
Yes. 
Yes. 

918
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:48,100
Divorce court or something. 
And then he talked about a sedan

919
00:53:48,500 --> 00:53:53,500
one thing we have to protect 
that, you have to ensure the 

920
00:53:53,508 --> 00:53:57,400
English Channel and it's the 
joke all style of protection. 

921
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,900
Hmm. 
And I that's always puzzled me. 

922
00:53:59,900 --> 00:54:03,800
Is it is that like Kind of like 
a joke, I assumed, but I 

923
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:04,900
couldn't. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

924
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:07,100
Could work that out of the way. 
So yeah, it's very odd. 

925
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:10,100
I don't know what that means but
obviously they're out. 

926
00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:12,800
This is another one of those 
with are going to trick in 

927
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:13,700
Eddie. 
Yeah. 

928
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:18,300
So they sell up the English 
Channel and then sell him 

929
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:20,100
Insurance in case of catches 
fire. 

930
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,500
Yeah. 
And there does always on the 

931
00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:27,100
make himself but he's always 
oblivious when he's being built 

932
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,700
himself. 
Yes. 

933
00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:33,000
Decides it. 
Yeah, he decides he's going to 

934
00:54:33,008 --> 00:54:36,200
deliberately set the channel 
firing claim 48,000 pounds, 

935
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:43,300
Insurance. 
Yeah, money highs himself to 

936
00:54:43,700 --> 00:54:45,600
Pepsi bankruptcy Bay gets a 
preference. 

937
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,500
He gets such a gets repeated. 
Doesn't yeah. 

938
00:54:48,500 --> 00:54:51,200
That big part of that spikes 
wartime memory. 

939
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,300
Obviously, he was, he was down 
on that part of the coast during

940
00:54:54,300 --> 00:54:56,800
the war so that gets a lot of 
callbacks. 

941
00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:00,700
Yeah. 
And and then we reach the sea. 

942
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:05,000
Seen that you are extremely fond
of with between Echols and Ned. 

943
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,100
I don't want to describe this, 
right? 

944
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:12,200
So so Nettie describes himself 
as tramping through the foot 

945
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,600
deep snow on the beach, to get 
down to the water's edge and 

946
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,500
then he sees Echoes In A 
full-length bathing costume and 

947
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:23,700
suntan oil and Spike is so 
brilliant here. 

948
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:26,100
Because there's lots of little, 
a sort of goes off. 

949
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:31,200
He Rambles off into little kind 
of He sings, you know, there's a

950
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,000
smaller on my face. 
I'm a member of the human race 

951
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,400
is almost like being in love and
so it does all these little kind

952
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,600
of musical and vocal and then 
sort of brings him back himself 

953
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:41,600
back by saying, well, where was 
I? 

954
00:55:41,607 --> 00:55:44,500
Oh yeah. 
And I just think he's he's 

955
00:55:44,500 --> 00:55:47,900
really, he's so comfortable 
being a cause he can do these at

956
00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:51,800
all kind of sort of slightly 
rambly bits and still bring it 

957
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,400
back to to the to the script and
to brilliant moments. 

958
00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:00,300
And I'm just so he tries to 
Instead, it's it's scorching. 

959
00:56:00,500 --> 00:56:02,500
Oh, my granddaddy phoned up this
morning. 

960
00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:06,400
He said, out of bed load. 
It's a beautiful do. 

961
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:10,100
Where is he? 
He was falling from Bermuda. 

962
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,200
And who am I to argue? 
Dear grandson? 

963
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,300
Actual sit down on his 
fossilized shooting stick? 

964
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:25,800
Oh, that's an old gag but on you
stick, thank you. 

965
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,200
My good man. 
Now let me put you right before 

966
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,200
you freeze to death. 
Hits someone in Bermuda but it's

967
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,800
winter over here, you're gone 
told me. 

968
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:38,900
Look at the rude and on desktop 
monitor 130 degrees is the 

969
00:56:38,908 --> 00:56:40,800
moment I have a temperature, he 
must gonna do a doctor. 

970
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,800
And with that remark, folks, 
Turkish of the crown bullshit. 

971
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,600
No DC. 
Good was proven 

972
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:05,400
a minute. 
Yes, you took the thermometer 

973
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,000
into the hot water bottle of 
Always keep it in there if I 

974
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,500
didn't. 
It would drop below zero one. 

975
00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:18,600
We preached at that and that 
just the whole section is really

976
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,900
interesting interplay and it's 
not just weirdly. 

977
00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:24,700
It's not just Echoes being an 
idiot. 

978
00:57:24,700 --> 00:57:28,700
It's sometimes Echols gets the 
kind of get to the position of 

979
00:57:28,700 --> 00:57:32,200
power over Neddy during it. 
And it's it's a really, really 

980
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,400
nice exchange. 
And I think it's one that I 

981
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,700
would play a tune on not going 
to That's because there's enough

982
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,700
or people just being introduced 
to the games because I think 

983
00:57:40,700 --> 00:57:43,100
there's enough in it in terms of
Gags Just to sort of make them 

984
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:46,000
laugh anyway and I think Spike 
does equals so brilliantly in 

985
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,700
this section and it's yeah it's 
probably my favorite part of the

986
00:57:48,700 --> 00:57:52,800
thing and then Nettie fires him 
from a what's the word 

987
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,500
slingshot? 
Or whatever it is and you 

988
00:57:54,500 --> 00:57:56,100
father's catapult. 
Thank you. 

989
00:57:56,900 --> 00:57:59,300
Now couldn't find the word and 
he fires him into the English 

990
00:57:59,300 --> 00:58:02,800
Channel where he can, he nearly 
drowns for the whole of the rest

991
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,600
of the show? 
Well, yes, but you're busy. 

992
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,600
The clever wordplay. 
Oh yeah, Echo Echoes reveals 

993
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,300
that he works at a match fast. 
I'm sorry. 

994
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:25,200
Yes. 
Thank you. 

995
00:58:25,207 --> 00:58:28,900
My friend to toll-free does it. 
What I would class as a clumsy 

996
00:58:28,900 --> 00:58:31,700
bit of music here. 
Okay, this is really a door. 

997
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,400
Yeah. 
When he mentions matches. 

998
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,800
So que siguen goes matches. 
Like, he's just remembered that 

999
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:39,700
he needs matches. 
Yeah. 

1000
00:58:39,700 --> 00:58:41,600
And there's a mute. 
There's a quick musical Sting 

1001
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:42,500
from the orchestra. 
Yeah. 

1002
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,300
But it's the musical sting which
normally they used to signify a 

1003
00:58:46,308 --> 00:58:48,300
scene transition or a lapse of 
time. 

1004
00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:50,500
Yeah. 
And to me it sounds Priya, I 

1005
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,300
better get back to the match 
Factory matches. 

1006
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,000
I think it should be when he 
says matches it should be dead 

1007
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,900
dad. 
Uh, yes, absolutely. 

1008
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,800
You don't mean to be a more a 
more sort of shocked her record 

1009
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:16,900
matches but I love that Spike 
then also sings As Eccles pom 

1010
00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:20,800
pom, pom pom, after it as well. 
Possibly for that. 

1011
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,300
Very reason possibly for that 
reason. 

1012
00:59:22,300 --> 00:59:24,500
Yeah, well we did, we did meant,
we didn't mention as well. 

1013
00:59:24,500 --> 00:59:29,400
There's a slightly topical The 
sense that seigen asks Echoes if

1014
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,100
he's the chancellor of the 
exchequer and that's another 

1015
00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:35,500
brilliant line as well. 
Well, the chancellor of 

1016
00:59:35,500 --> 00:59:37,100
exchequer know. 
I can understand. 

1017
00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:39,400
I've often been mistaken for the
chancellor. 

1018
00:59:39,700 --> 00:59:43,600
No, I've just often be mistaken.
Yeah, and I wondered what that 

1019
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,600
was about, because I thought it 
was obviously in my head. 

1020
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,200
There's obviously the chance was
obviously, in the news. 

1021
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,200
Yeah. 
For some for some mess up or 

1022
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,300
something didn't seem to be 
necessarily And the time of the 

1023
00:59:57,300 --> 01:00:01,200
recording, anything that the 
chancellor had done wrong, but 

1024
01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:05,100
it was a gentleman called Peter 
thornycroft, okay. 

1025
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,800
Who just became Chancellor 
replacing Harold MacMillan who 

1026
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,600
was just becoming a Yeti. 
He was p.m. so he became 

1027
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:17,300
Chancellor in January and then 
he resigned the next year, along

1028
01:00:17,300 --> 01:00:20,500
with two Junior treasury 
ministers because of increased 

1029
01:00:20,500 --> 01:00:23,700
government expenditure. 
So I don't really know much 

1030
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:28,200
about what he'd done at this 
time that Wisdom to be ridiculed

1031
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,000
in a gun show, but the said 
there was two Junior treasury 

1032
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,400
ministers. 
One of them was called Nigel 

1033
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,100
Birch. 
The other one was someone called

1034
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:37,600
Enoch Powell. 
Good Lord. 

1035
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:38,900
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1036
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,400
Not the first time he would be 
forced to resign in disgrace. 

1037
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,800
Absolutely say. 
Yes, Sue equals has been 

1038
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,900
catapulted, out to sea and and 
he's, he's permanently drowning 

1039
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,400
and also. 
Another brilliant thing about 

1040
01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:56,500
Spike playing, I called his 
soul. 

1041
01:00:56,700 --> 01:00:58,900
I threw the rest of the most of 
the rest of the show. 

1042
01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:01,900
We're here and go, huh? 
And he does it. 

1043
01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:06,400
So brilliantly in each one is 
sort of different and he's doing

1044
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,000
it from exactly the sort of, 
right part of the studio that 

1045
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:14,600
makes you think he is quite far 
away and in the sea, and it's 

1046
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,800
just so well done. 
It's so well done. 

1047
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,400
And the kind of interjections 
and pretty much everyone in the 

1048
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,700
rest of the cast for the whole 
arrested. 

1049
01:01:20,700 --> 01:01:24,100
Show tells him to shut up. 
Shut up. 

1050
01:01:24,100 --> 01:01:27,200
You brown fall that? 
Yeah, it's another Another 

1051
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,500
really nice Spike moment there. 
I love the, I love the fact that

1052
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:34,400
very often they'll just 
ad-libbed the word Brown. 

1053
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:37,800
Yes, another way that ticket 
Brown Milligan is the chance to 

1054
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,600
say is new catchphrase. 
But and that makes I think 

1055
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,000
that's what makes sellers then. 
Say, shut up your brown fall, 

1056
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,100
but it is it. 
Excellent of excellent little 

1057
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,700
qualifying word. 
Brown is another one of those 

1058
01:01:48,700 --> 01:01:50,400
drab words. 
Yeah, there's no. 

1059
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,600
See ya. 
We get many in Henry, turn up. 

1060
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,700
They are the lifeguards and they
Here equals shouting help and 

1061
01:01:58,700 --> 01:02:00,700
there's a bit of mint and hen 
business. 

1062
01:02:00,700 --> 01:02:05,800
Yeah, I love the bit where 
Echoes actually, physically 

1063
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,100
climbs out. 
Yes, to shut to shout help. 

1064
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:10,800
That's another golden moment in 
the show. 

1065
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,900
I just think that's excellent. 
And again, that's another thing 

1066
01:02:12,900 --> 01:02:16,500
you could play, too goon fancy. 
It's an ongoing fans or people 

1067
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:20,500
just being introduced against. 
It's again, a really clever use 

1068
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:23,000
of the medium. 
It's a great gag in and of 

1069
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,200
itself. 
Yeah, it's really well done. 

1070
01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:31,900
It reminded me of my dad always 
used to tell a joke about, 

1071
01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:35,600
because my dad was Irish. 
Tell a joke about an Irishman 

1072
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,600
who drowned in a vat of whiskey.
Yeah, but he got out three times

1073
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:43,800
to go to the toilet. 
Just, it just reminds me of 

1074
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,600
that. 
Yeah, so we then get re the re 

1075
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,400
number. 
I reckon it's love which I said,

1076
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:54,400
as I said, was very nice and we 
return and see, goon is trying 

1077
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,500
to start a fire and he's got a 
Tinder Box and then you have 

1078
01:02:58,500 --> 01:02:59,800
this. 
Yeah you have this rather 

1079
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,600
pointless arrival of blood not. 
Yeah. 

1080
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,900
I think it's a really it's 
sorted. 

1081
01:03:04,100 --> 01:03:08,300
The Crowbar blood Mark in but 
it's also really weird in that 

1082
01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:11,500
he doesn't actually try to rip 
me off himself. 

1083
01:03:11,500 --> 01:03:14,300
Usually in this case I'm 
thinking things like the 

1084
01:03:14,300 --> 01:03:16,100
pendency of a disaster. 
You know. 

1085
01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:19,400
Someone's Ned's being set up by 
grip by Moriarty and then blood 

1086
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,200
Mark appears and also tries to 
get his own pound of Flesh and 

1087
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,700
in this one he doesn't he's 
almost an acceptable or 

1088
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:27,700
authority figure. 
Okay? 

1089
01:03:27,700 --> 01:03:31,300
Turns a blind eye and Eddie 
dropping the Navy office in ten 

1090
01:03:31,300 --> 01:03:33,900
thousand pounds. 
If you if he turns a blind eye 

1091
01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:37,600
to Dropping matches into the 
into the ocean, into the English

1092
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,200
Channel. 
I think the most interesting 

1093
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,300
thing about the blog section 
here and I also love, love 

1094
01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:46,500
knock. 
But he says I'm the winner of 

1095
01:03:46,500 --> 01:03:51,500
the golden Richard which I'm 
sure is not a phrase that we 

1096
01:03:51,500 --> 01:03:57,100
want to get to you want to look 
too deeply into an interesting 

1097
01:03:57,100 --> 01:03:59,000
little drop in there. 
Yeah. 

1098
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,000
So yeah. 
Another thumb introduction in 

1099
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,700
the style of the Moriarty. 
Introductions. 

1100
01:04:05,900 --> 01:04:08,900
Yeah, there was a bit of an 
underwhelming bluebottle bit. 

1101
01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:10,700
I guess. 
Don't know if you agree. 

1102
01:04:10,700 --> 01:04:13,900
Yeah. 
Blue bottles briefly and it is 

1103
01:04:13,900 --> 01:04:16,000
legs mistaken for tweaks. 
Yes. 

1104
01:04:16,700 --> 01:04:18,100
And again, that's about it, 
isn't it? 

1105
01:04:18,100 --> 01:04:19,400
ID doesn't really add to the 
plot. 

1106
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,200
An awful lot in this one but 
again it's a nice little 

1107
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,500
interjection to have a Min. 
Just going back to the blood 

1108
01:04:24,500 --> 01:04:27,900
Knock 10. 
Yeah, another great thing about 

1109
01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:30,600
this for me. 
See I didn't at the time when I 

1110
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,100
first heard this but I'd 
subsequently lived in beckenham 

1111
01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:36,200
which is next to Each and he 
said, I didn't know you had a 

1112
01:04:36,207 --> 01:04:38,100
deaf ear. 
I found it in the barber shop in

1113
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:40,400
penge on the floor of a 
barbershop in penge. 

1114
01:04:40,700 --> 01:04:43,700
So that's another thing I wanted
to bring up about Spike. 

1115
01:04:43,700 --> 01:04:46,900
Spike, grew up in broccoli or 
when he moved back to London, he

1116
01:04:46,900 --> 01:04:49,800
lived in broccoli. 
And I, and he always, always, 

1117
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,700
always mentions catford in all 
of his shows. 

1118
01:04:52,700 --> 01:04:56,200
There's catford always get to 
allow wrapping and I'm from 

1119
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,500
catford. 
So, I was born in lewisham, 

1120
01:04:58,500 --> 01:04:59,800
hospital, and I grew up in 
catford. 

1121
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:04,500
So that was another connection. 
I felt and just Hearing those it

1122
01:05:04,500 --> 01:05:07,000
will cut whenever you hear a 
little South Southeast, London 

1123
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:11,400
area being mentioned on the 
goons or On Cue. 

1124
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,800
It's another really it's I sort 
of perk up, you know, when I 

1125
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,000
hear those things. 
Well, Yap engines are very 

1126
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,000
unlovely. 
It is name, isn't it is? 

1127
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,400
It's actually drab. 
It's actually not a bad place 

1128
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,400
but it was a, it was a 
imagining, it was a pretty drab 

1129
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,600
place that matched, its name at 
the time. 

1130
01:05:29,700 --> 01:05:32,600
But it's actually, it's not too 
bad now, sorry penge, if there's

1131
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,300
anybody, from pendulous me, For 
the let you know it is quite 

1132
01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:42,400
knows the scene shifts or the 
action shifts to the YMCA, Royal

1133
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,900
Suite in his spell again YMCA. 
Yeah. 

1134
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:49,700
Drab Mariachis played the violin
rather badly. 

1135
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,500
Yes and Fritz kreisler. 
Yeah, don't really mean. 

1136
01:05:55,500 --> 01:05:57,800
I know of him. 
It's one of those things that 

1137
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:03,700
again I didn't hear this was cut
out of the, of the version of 

1138
01:06:03,707 --> 01:06:04,600
it. 
On the lp. 

1139
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,500
So I didn't hear this little 
section until years and years 

1140
01:06:08,500 --> 01:06:13,500
later, I think he's Chrysler 
someone, that Spike really kind 

1141
01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:21,200
of equates with those terrible 
sort of scratchy, mournful 

1142
01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:25,400
violin obligor toes. 
Which he's I don't think he's 

1143
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,100
particularly fond of and I think
that's why it gets a bit of 

1144
01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:30,700
stick here. 
So you can find out the channel.

1145
01:06:30,700 --> 01:06:32,400
Won't catch fire because it's 
damp. 

1146
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,400
Yeah. 
And so he returns Don't Front 

1147
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,000
grip, Piper Marie out. 
Who tell them to wait until 

1148
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,500
summer when the channel will be 
a fair trial. 

1149
01:06:38,500 --> 01:06:45,100
Exactly a fire truck. 
Then there's a wireless 

1150
01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:47,900
broadcast of Minion, Henry 
rescuing Eccles at sea. 

1151
01:06:50,300 --> 01:06:53,600
Insurance, The White Man's 
Burden part 3. 

1152
01:07:01,100 --> 01:07:04,300
With Nettie, fobbed off 
coxswains, crown and Bannister 

1153
01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:13,500
Paul Echols ashore. 
Thank you. 

1154
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:18,600
Thank you for pulling me out of 
the English Channel. 

1155
01:07:18,900 --> 01:07:21,600
Another month out. 
They're not out ground of 

1156
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:26,700
starvation. 
It join me in the next line. 

1157
01:07:26,700 --> 01:07:32,600
Yes, I'll help you any yes, yes.
We've never got the boat out to 

1158
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,100
you. 
If we hadn't come back thousand 

1159
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:46,600
gallons of oil and the see the 
comet yes set fire to it to get 

1160
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:53,500
rid of it. 
And it's a very nice conceit. 

1161
01:07:53,500 --> 01:07:58,700
It's a very clever way of ending
it for him to get his vote for 

1162
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,300
his. 
Mature, what look my policy has 

1163
01:08:01,300 --> 01:08:03,700
matured and it's not you know 
it's not buy something that's 

1164
01:08:03,700 --> 01:08:06,500
been done by him but it all 
everything has fitted in so 

1165
01:08:06,500 --> 01:08:09,600
beautifully and you don't often 
get this particularly later. 

1166
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,300
Period gun shows. 
You don't often get that, you 

1167
01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:15,200
know, the the ends are tied up. 
You know, the whole story of 

1168
01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:19,800
equals being out in the sea Min 
and hen of had to go and rescue 

1169
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,500
him in the Lifeboat. 
The only way that they could 

1170
01:08:21,500 --> 01:08:23,899
make it calm enough as by 
pouring all this oil on the sea 

1171
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,200
and then they set fire to it to 
get rid of it. 

1172
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,200
It's just everything fits in so 
beautifully. 

1173
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,800
I I do love the construction of 
this and six. 

1174
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,899
Child is another one and you 
have to wonder if, that's why 

1175
01:08:34,899 --> 01:08:37,100
Spike pick them. 
He probably, he felt that they 

1176
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:42,700
were very well contained. 
I mean not that they seem to be 

1177
01:08:42,700 --> 01:08:45,800
a factor in the later choices 
that you made but they all seem 

1178
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:50,200
to have a very well constructed 
plot which is a soap. 

1179
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:52,600
Yeah. 
And because of the because of 

1180
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,600
the richness of the equal seen 
earlier. 

1181
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,700
Yeah we can assume that Spike 
was in a good mood and enjoying 

1182
01:08:57,700 --> 01:08:58,700
himself. 
Yeah, I think so. 

1183
01:08:58,700 --> 01:09:00,899
Yeah. 
And so perhaps he remembered 

1184
01:09:00,899 --> 01:09:02,300
that short when he was choosing 
this. 

1185
01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:06,500
Yeah, good point. 
There's I think the best joke in

1186
01:09:06,500 --> 01:09:10,100
the whole show was right at the 
end when Echols rather formally 

1187
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:11,899
thanks minion Henry. 
Rescuing. 

1188
01:09:11,899 --> 01:09:14,100
Yeah. 
Owning he says he said something

1189
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:16,300
along the lines of if it stayed 
out there much longer I'd have 

1190
01:09:16,300 --> 01:09:18,899
died of starvation. 
I don't drown the starvation. 

1191
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:25,100
Yeah, drowned of starvation. 
That just makes it doubly good. 

1192
01:09:27,100 --> 01:09:30,500
I just think the whole Echoes 
thing in that and and men and 

1193
01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:31,700
hand as well. 
I mean men and had a very 

1194
01:09:31,700 --> 01:09:36,800
Central so I'm not I'm not the 
world's greatest men in hen fam 

1195
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:41,300
and but in this they have a very
again tightly. 

1196
01:09:41,300 --> 01:09:44,200
Act, little scene that sets them
up and the whole scene of them 

1197
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,800
building the Lifeboat is a very 
funny reveal and they're Central

1198
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,700
to the plot but they don't kind 
of it's not one of those where 

1199
01:09:51,700 --> 01:09:55,000
it feels like spikes written a 
massive, long scene to kind of 

1200
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,300
just get rid of some time with 
men and hence of rambling at 

1201
01:09:58,300 --> 01:10:00,700
each other. 
So again, another reason why I 

1202
01:10:00,700 --> 01:10:04,400
really like this is that you're 
right, that blue bottle, doesn't

1203
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,300
really get much of a fair shot 
in this, but otherwise people 

1204
01:10:07,300 --> 01:10:10,200
do, they all everyone gets a 
really good little scene that 

1205
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,500
sort of drives the plot along. 
Long. 

1206
01:10:11,500 --> 01:10:16,700
And And then we end of course, 
with the very best goon show 

1207
01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:20,200
theme tune, Lucky Strike. 
I'm sorry if you're going to go,

1208
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,200
if you were going to go and add 
any more about the show itself, 

1209
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,200
but well I just wanted to 
mention that. 

1210
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:30,500
Yes, so seguin's it ends. 
Very abruptly seguin's policies 

1211
01:10:30,500 --> 01:10:34,400
policy has matured because the 
the channel is on fire grip. 

1212
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,500
Pipe tells my reality to pack 
the Champions. 

1213
01:10:36,500 --> 01:10:38,300
Yeah, that's a regular phrase 
around this time. 

1214
01:10:38,300 --> 01:10:41,500
Isn't it supposed to have chain?
Must have come in tins of that 

1215
01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:43,500
time. 
But it's That they keep all 

1216
01:10:43,508 --> 01:10:47,600
their belongings in them and 
then at gunpoint, they scalp a 

1217
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,900
leaving Ned with no money and 
and Ned. 

1218
01:10:50,900 --> 01:10:56,900
Ned crestfallen mentions the 
show's title as sellers doing a 

1219
01:10:56,900 --> 01:10:59,300
copy voice, tells them that his 
Brandy bottles at the stage 

1220
01:10:59,300 --> 01:11:05,000
door, hence the hurrying of feet
which yeah and what, you're 

1221
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,000
lucky strike. 
Yeah I think that's probably my 

1222
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,300
favorite theme tune. 
I think she means well, I just 

1223
01:11:09,300 --> 01:11:10,800
think it's it. 
I don't know what it was. 

1224
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,800
That sort of would have out. 
I stood it in the next series 

1225
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,600
because yeah, it's sort of 
towards I think it's somewhere 

1226
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,200
in series. 
A I think you can only be the 

1227
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,400
producers coming in and wanting 
to use something different 

1228
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:26,900
because I mean, I think it's 
brilliant anyway but it does 

1229
01:11:26,900 --> 01:11:30,600
also have the ability to one of 
the issues was they needed a 

1230
01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:32,400
tune-up. 
They could draw out if they 

1231
01:11:32,407 --> 01:11:35,200
needed to. 
And there is scope to do sort of

1232
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,700
scope for soloists to sort of 
play in the middle of the tune 

1233
01:11:38,700 --> 01:11:41,700
and at the end of it, if need 
be, but it's great, it's new. 

1234
01:11:41,700 --> 01:11:44,300
And it's co-written by a real 
engine, of course. 

1235
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:46,900
Yeah. 
And as I've said before, as 

1236
01:11:46,900 --> 01:11:50,000
well, it's weird that because it
gets introduced to the show 

1237
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,200
halfway through Series 6. 
Yes. 

1238
01:11:52,900 --> 01:11:54,800
So, it's not even like the 
beginning of no, no, seriously. 

1239
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,400
This isn't just the thought 
processes that that drove those 

1240
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:02,000
decisions are interesting to me,
and you can't find out that you 

1241
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,000
can't seem to find about out 
about them anywhere. 

1242
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,000
And again, that how it sort of 
then disappeared and how the 

1243
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:11,100
sort of theme tune seem to chop 
and change so much from series, 

1244
01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:13,100
8 onwards. 
Yeah. 

1245
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,500
But, yeah, so, that's that's 
another thing when I hearing 

1246
01:12:16,500 --> 01:12:21,000
that kick in was always pleased 
me a great deal. 

1247
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,900
Yes, yes, So overall a brilliant
show. 

1248
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:29,600
Yeah, I if I'm being honest it's
not one of my favorites. 

1249
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,200
I enjoy it. 
It's probably in my if I had to 

1250
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:38,000
sort of ranked my top 30 shows 
it'll probably be in the yeah, 

1251
01:12:38,300 --> 01:12:41,300
the late 20s. 
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely in

1252
01:12:41,300 --> 01:12:45,100
my top 20, possibly in my top 10
and I think part of it has got 

1253
01:12:45,100 --> 01:12:48,900
to be of course, because it was 
one of the first to I ever 

1254
01:12:48,900 --> 01:12:50,000
heard. 
So. 

1255
01:12:50,300 --> 01:12:53,600
And as I say because it has that
tight Construction And it's not 

1256
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,000
it doesn't have some of their 
more rambling moments in it that

1257
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,400
you get in. 
Some of the other shows which 

1258
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,400
are often also great. 
But I think listening to them as

1259
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,000
a sort of seven or eight year 
old that probably made it easier

1260
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,800
for me to digest. 
And as I say both that and six 

1261
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:14,000
jars are still pretty high, on 
my list of all-time classics, go

1262
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,200
and revisit them, Kim's and 
tons, go, and listen to them now

1263
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:22,700
shut, it shows such as if, and I
really do hope that you do. 

1264
01:13:22,900 --> 01:13:26,300
Return because your knowledge 
and enthusiasm is clear. 

1265
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,100
Thank you. 
I'd love to keep you would. 

1266
01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:32,500
If you were to return at some 
point in the future. 

1267
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,300
Yes. 
Would you what would you like to

1268
01:13:35,308 --> 01:13:37,600
cover? 
If you thought about if it was 

1269
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,300
another yeah, or film or 
something. 

1270
01:13:39,500 --> 01:13:42,100
If it was a show, I think what 
would be quite interesting would

1271
01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:46,700
be to look at you Bandit of 
Sherwood Forest and Robin Hood. 

1272
01:13:46,700 --> 01:13:51,200
And his Merrie Monarch I think 
the difference is between those 

1273
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,500
and how How is he? 
Rubbing her was another one that

1274
01:13:54,500 --> 01:14:00,100
I had on on vinyl in first men 
on the moon and that's was 

1275
01:14:00,100 --> 01:14:02,400
paired with forward by French 
president Fred, which is not a 

1276
01:14:02,407 --> 01:14:06,900
burning show and I think Robin 
Hood is an absolutely corking 

1277
01:14:06,900 --> 01:14:08,400
show. 
I think it's a brilliant show 

1278
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:13,100
and it's a vast Improvement on 
the Bandit, which is also in and

1279
01:14:13,100 --> 01:14:13,700
of itself. 
Good. 

1280
01:14:13,700 --> 01:14:15,700
It's got good gags in it and 
some good performances. 

1281
01:14:15,700 --> 01:14:20,800
But I think the this sort of the
Remake if you like is much 

1282
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,700
better and that might be an 
interesting. 

1283
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,300
Ting that Iris idea. 
But yeah, he burned it obviously

1284
01:14:26,300 --> 01:14:29,400
has Dennis Price. 
Yes, which I'd love a love a bit

1285
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:36,500
of Dennis Price. 
Sorry, you're right. 

1286
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,500
You're right, you're right. 
Of course it is. 

1287
01:14:38,500 --> 01:14:40,600
Yeah, but he's, he's had a bit 
of a rough end of the stick 

1288
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,700
from, you know, some of the 
people have written about the 

1289
01:14:42,700 --> 01:14:44,800
show or whatever of said old, 
get his press sounds out of 

1290
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,000
place. 
And I disagree, I think he's, I 

1291
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,000
think he's dead right for it. 
I think is very funny. 

1292
01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:55,300
Yeah, I was never a big fan of 
either you Bandit all Robin Hood

1293
01:14:55,300 --> 01:14:58,800
of okay on this. 
But but, so subsequently, I 

1294
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,200
suppose they were shows I didn't
listen to as much as others, but

1295
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,900
it would be good to for you to 
come back and compare the two. 

1296
01:15:06,300 --> 01:15:08,300
But, but I'll wrap it. 
Is there anything else you want 

1297
01:15:08,300 --> 01:15:12,700
to talk about before I do the 
formal wrap up or, you know, not

1298
01:15:12,700 --> 01:15:15,700
at all? 
Just, you know, it's so good 

1299
01:15:15,700 --> 01:15:18,700
that you've got so many people 
tuning into this. 

1300
01:15:18,900 --> 01:15:21,500
And there's, you know, there's 
still obviously a massive 

1301
01:15:21,500 --> 01:15:24,300
massive interest in and love of 
the goons. 

1302
01:15:25,300 --> 01:15:27,500
And just one thing I did want to
mention is that my friend Casey 

1303
01:15:27,500 --> 01:15:31,400
listen to it, as well as and I 
I've had a South African 

1304
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:36,400
colleague at work and she's 
moved on to other roles now. 

1305
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:42,300
But I'm in my day job, I had a 
graphic designer South African 

1306
01:15:42,500 --> 01:15:43,500
colleague. 
Hello, Julie, if you're 

1307
01:15:43,500 --> 01:15:47,000
listening and I happened to 
mention that one day, I was 

1308
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,800
going to the gym. 
I'm going to the gym. 

1309
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:55,200
And she said oh hello Jean and 
she's sort of 30 mid-30s South 

1310
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,000
African woman. 
And I said, my God, how'd you 

1311
01:15:58,008 --> 01:16:00,500
know, the game shows and shit. 
We had them all the time and I 

1312
01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:02,400
was growing up, my parents were 
obsessed with him and I really 

1313
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,600
love them. 
So it's really nice when you get

1314
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,500
that kind of, you know, there 
are people everywhere who have 

1315
01:16:08,500 --> 01:16:10,800
heard them and been affected by 
them and still love them and I 

1316
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,700
do love that so much so it's 
really really well. 

1317
01:16:13,700 --> 01:16:15,900
Hello. 
Judy is Julie, yeah it is, yeah,

1318
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,600
hello Julie. 
Which has listen has been 

1319
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,300
brilliant. 
Thank you so much. 

1320
01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:22,400
I really enjoyed it. 
Thank you. 

1321
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,300
And until the next time. 
Bye. 

1322
01:16:25,300 --> 01:16:26,300
Bye. 
All the best. 

1323
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,200
Which has listen has been 
brilliant. 

1324
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,000
Thank you so much. 
I really enjoyed it. 

1325
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,300
Thank you. 
And until the next time. 

1326
01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:25,700
Bye. 
Bye. 

1327
01:16:25,700 --> 01:16:26,300
All the best.