1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,280 Now to test my new poetic license. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:03,920 Where's my letter speaking trumpet? 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,400 Ah, moon, you're like a melody type tune. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,720 You're so clever you can rhyme with goon. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,880 Oh, the boon is the moon in June the boon. 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,680 I'll think of another rhyme soon. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,600 And in the slant of liberty, I'll make my living at poetry. 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:58,840 You'll starve. Hello and welcome to Goon Pod, a 9 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:04,879 poem the part of Goon which I began the month before June 3 10 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:08,760 years ago. Hoon how the time has flown. 11 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,120 I shall stop this very soon. Something something moon, which 12 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:19,080 very neatly, which pretty craply brings me to the topic of 13 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,040 today's show, which is a lesser known episode of the Goon show, 14 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:25,840 but a firm fan favorite. And joining me today is a firm 15 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,720 fan 1/2 of the Lord of Adidas Black podcast who who actually 16 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,640 lives in Germany. So apologies in advance for his 17 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,920 his rather baffling Cologne accent. 18 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,240 It's Ian Winnick. Hello, Ian. 19 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,600 Hello, China. Few more words please. 20 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,360 So much air, kind of tune to your accent come. 21 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,880 Yes, I thought your poem was wonderful. 22 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,920 It's it's scanned beautifully. Thank you very much. 23 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:49,520 So hang on, you've got, you've got a bit of an Irish broke to 24 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,080 that German accent. What's going on there? 25 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,520 Yes, I'm I'm from, I'm from Dublin. 26 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,960 Don't have a Dublin accent thankfully, but I am. 27 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,120 I have a sort of all-purpose Irish accent with a bit of 28 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,480 German intonation every now and then, or so I'm told. 29 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,039 So you're a podcaster, sort of quite recent podcaster, but 30 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:10,800 you're also your day job I believe is is you're a 31 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,960 translator. Yes, I'm, I'm a translator. 32 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,360 Yeah, translate from German and French to English. 33 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,480 Sorry German, French and English. 34 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,880 From German to English and from French to English. 35 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,840 Oh Blimey. So where where did all this this 36 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,520 facility for languages come from? 37 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:32,920 When I was a kid and a teenager, I had quite a bad stammer and 38 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:37,040 which I used to struggle with, and I suspect that actually 39 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,040 managing that, as in reforming sentences we'd get them out, 40 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,040 gave a certain amount of verbal dexterity, which then naturally 41 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,960 transformed itself to languages. OK, there's echoes of Michael 42 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,520 benting, the young Michael benting there because he had a 43 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:58,080 terrible stammer when he was a child and managed to get over it 44 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,080 through speech therapy and what not, although it was quite 45 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,560 primitive back in those days, I guess. 46 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:08,480 But he also picked up languages, so perhaps there's there's 47 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,520 something in that. Yeah. 48 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:10,840 Could be, yeah. Could be. 49 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,280 So Ian, this is the first time that you've been on Goon Bot, 50 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,000 but you're a long term listener, Yes, and and embarrass you now. 51 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,680 I remember you probably a couple of years ago, we we were 52 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,800 messaging about something and you said, oh, you know, I don't 53 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,800 don't know if I'd really want to go on a podcast. 54 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,520 And then, lo and behold, you started your own one recently. 55 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,880 Yeah, yeah. What happened was I got a 56 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,480 message to my website, which was by an American woman called 57 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,880 Emily who runs a podcast called Navigation the French. 58 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,960 And she wanted, and she had read a A blog article that I had 59 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,960 written on the various words for you in French, you know, the 60 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,520 formula and the informal. And she wanted me to come on as 61 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,080 an expert to talk about that. So I was humming and hawing and 62 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,600 will I do this anyway? Anyway, I ended up doing it. 63 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,120 And I always hated the sound of my own voice. 64 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,880 But people said, oh, you sent. Yeah. 65 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,720 Great voice for radio. Yeah, that sounded great. 66 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,480 And yeah. So that sort of said, OK, well, 67 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,560 you know, if the opportunity arises, I might do that. 68 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:19,920 And then when the opportunity arose to start the podcast, then 69 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:23,720 it wasn't as difficult as as I might have thought. 70 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,480 It's it once she threw? Yeah. 71 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,680 I mean, I was dead nervous when I started. 72 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,160 I had been a guest on several podcasts leading up to starting 73 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,120 Goopod. But still, you know, it is quite 74 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,760 a daunting prospect. But once you get your first 75 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,960 episode under your belt, it it's it's all downhill or uphill. 76 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,480 No downhill. Downhill, yes. 77 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,840 And once you're in, and once you're in charge of the editing 78 00:04:44,840 --> 00:04:48,160 yourself. Absolutely, absolutely. 79 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,160 OK, so, so I I've been listening fervently to Lord of Eddis 80 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,400 Black. Good. 81 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,440 So do you want to explain to the to the Dimwitched listeners who 82 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,720 haven't picked up on this podcast yet what it's all about? 83 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,080 Right Michael, who lives in Melbourne. 84 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,600 Michael and I are both both ardent Queen fans and we met on 85 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,520 a private chat of another podcast called The Seaside Pod 86 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,200 Review. Anyway, I just floated the idea 87 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,480 of doing a Blackadder podcast because I had heard a Blackadder 88 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,240 podcast and it was each episode of the podcast was about an 89 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,200 episode of Blackadder. And as far as I was concerned, 90 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,080 they didn't do anything except just extract the jokes and talk 91 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,840 about the jokes. And I kind of went, oh, OK, I'm 92 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:36,680 not inclined to listen to any, any other episode of that. 93 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:42,440 So late, late at night on that chat, I was, I just said, you 94 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,560 know, I think I could do a better podcast with an iPhone 95 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,680 and a half a bottle of whiskey. And Kevin, who was the guy who 96 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,000 runs the, the, the seaside pod of you now, Kevin has four 97 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,400 podcasts, so I don't think his wife would allow him to have 98 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,280 another one. Michael popped up and said, 99 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,880 well, you know, I'd be up for that. 100 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,280 So you know, you end up shouting your mouth of on the late night 101 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,240 late night chat forum and in the morning you wake up when you 102 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,840 have a blackout of fan podcast. You've given birth to a podcast. 103 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,040 Yes, yes. So what we wanted to do 104 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,040 basically was to do the kind of blackout of fan podcast that we 105 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,920 would like to listen to as blackout of fans. 106 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,480 So rather than focusing 1 episode, we would have different 107 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:25,960 segments. We would have, for example, a 108 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:31,240 scene stealer segment where we would do a deep dive on someone 109 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,520 like Ron Lacy who played the baby Asian Bishop of Bath and 110 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:39,280 Wells or Tom Baker who played Captain Rum and hated his 111 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:43,200 performance, as we all know. And then we have special guest 112 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,800 son. And then we have trivia treasure 113 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,840 Trove where we try to dig out trivia, but not everyone would 114 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:51,640 know. And and that's all all packed 115 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,480 into about 40 minutes, 45 minutes. 116 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,640 So it's it's fast moving and yeah, what I've always liked 117 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,880 about your podcast is that it's very tightly edited. 118 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,800 You know, there's no flap there and it's well researched and OK, 119 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,080 our podcast is nothing as well researched as yours is, but we 120 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,120 try to keep nice, nice and tight and fast moving and not over 121 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:11,760 stale. Welcome. 122 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,000 Absolutely nothing worse than a podcast where you hear 123 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,080 everything. Everything exactly. 124 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,400 One other thing I wanted to include from your podcast, but 125 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,960 which was the no silly voices rule. 126 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,480 Unfortunately, I neglected to tell anybody that I didn't even 127 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,040 tell Michael. And we had a friend of ours 128 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,760 called Harry Hussey who was on to talk about Tom Baker and he 129 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,440 did a very good impression of Tom Baker and Brian Blessed. 130 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,840 So I didn't tell him before I had no silly voices, please. 131 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,120 So I think it's I think it's too late now. 132 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,000 I. Think he gets a pass for that? 133 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,240 He does, yes. Yeah. 134 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,240 Obviously, I guess your dream guest would be the likes of 135 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:54,360 obviously Rowan and and Tim and and who's Baldrick? 136 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,240 That's Tony. Tony. 137 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,360 Robinson, yes. But also also Jim Broadbent and 138 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,000 Miriam Margulies would be great. Yes, yes. 139 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,520 I always think whenever I think of Miriam Margulies, I think 140 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,640 she's going to because her diction is so absolutely crystal 141 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,360 clear. I always think she's going to 142 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:16,880 say enunciate, enunciate boy. We have had, as you know, we've 143 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,320 had Simon Osbourne who played Pit the younger, yes, and we 144 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,720 have John Pierce Jones who played Arthur the Sailor, one of 145 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,320 my very favorite scenes. Get it here. 146 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,560 Yes, the whole time I'm going to be saying don't ask him how much 147 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,720 he charges for a good old shag. Don't ask him how much he 148 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,559 charges for a good old shag. So he's coming on in a couple of 149 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,799 weeks time to talk, and I'm very much hoping to have Gabrielle 150 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,280 Glaister on. Oh, I haven't heard back from 151 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,760 her yet, but I haven't written it off just yet. 152 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,000 I don't think Von Atkinson is going to is going is going to 153 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,080 play ball or anything like that, but Tony Robinson strikes me as 154 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,160 being the most accessible of the inner circle, so yes, who knows? 155 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,520 Yes, absolutely yes. Simon Osborne who seems to his 156 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:03,640 his life. He just seems to be living life 157 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,560 to the full from if if you follow his Twitter feed it seems 158 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:09,680 to be him travelling around the country with his family. 159 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:14,600 I guess being being photographed eating large foodstuffs like 160 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,800 massive Cornish pasties and large baguettes full of cheese 161 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,520 and onion and all sorts of weird and wonderful things. 162 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:22,840 What? What? 163 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,000 What a life that is. Yes, Simon was a wonderful 164 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,080 guest. He just, he just, he jumped at 165 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,240 the chance to come on and talk about it and he was great. 166 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,600 Just wind him up and let him talk and and help give all this 167 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,000 insider view on what it was like to to, you know, to have a scene 168 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,280 with Rowan and what happened before. 169 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,680 You know, Ron pulling faces at him while he's trying to say his 170 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:43,160 lines and stuff like that was just great. 171 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,000 Yeah. So, OK, I do want to talk about 172 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,160 Blackadder, but I'm going to, we'll, we'll save that for a bit 173 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,680 later, I think because, you know, there may be some goonpod 174 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:54,360 listeners that don't give 2 figs about Blackadder. 175 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,160 I I scarcely believe that such a person exists. 176 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,400 I would imagine about half of your listeners will be 177 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,680 Blackadder fans as well. Surely to God. 178 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,880 But anyway, we'll, we'll, we'll chat about Blackadder later on. 179 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,840 So we're talking about a specific goon show, which is the 180 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,880 episode The Moon show. The moon is mine. 181 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,000 The moon is mine tonight the silvery beam comes down through 182 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:24,200 my window and the moon is mine. Tonight is mine. 183 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,200 Your star. What's your history with the 184 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,720 goons then? What's your What's your 185 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,040 background? Right, the first time I heard 186 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,120 the Goon Show was when I was in my early teens and my father was 187 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,080 in the kitchen working with the Radio One as as was as want and 188 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,200 the episode the canal was playing. 189 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:50,280 Now I'm trying to remember what station it might have been. 190 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,480 I'm sure it was one of the national stations, probably RT 191 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,680 1. Anyway, there's the episode was 192 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:56,280 the canal and the first scene I heard. 193 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,760 I walked in and it was the scene where Neddy's in the canal and 194 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,320 Minnie and Henry are trying to rescue him with the life saving 195 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,640 manual. Oh yes. 196 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,720 And then I heard the line, but what am I going to do with all 197 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,320 these eggs? And I went, oh, OK. 198 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,480 Then I was hooked. So I asked my dad who that was 199 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,520 about. Or I think my dad was very 200 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,520 pleased actually, that that I, you know, that I immediately 201 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,640 took a shine to this because he knew that from his childhood. 202 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,240 He's English. So he, he probably had more 203 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,720 exposure to that kind of thing than than than someone of his 204 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,800 generation in Ireland. I probably hadn't heard of Spike 205 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,400 Milligan at that stage. I might have seen him on The 206 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,960 Muppet Show, but I've probably seen Peter Sellers in the, in 207 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,800 the in the Pink Panther films. But, but really, I didn't know 208 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,120 anything about them. And yeah, I always thought there 209 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,440 was something very niche about it back then. 210 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,160 Like I'm sure none of my school friends were familiar with it. 211 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,440 But looking back, all the Goon Show classic tapes, they were 212 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,960 all on sale in Easterns, which was the big bookshop on 213 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,320 O'Connell St. in Dublin. They were all on sale. 214 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,400 So, you know, so can't have been that far from the mainstream. 215 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,680 But they didn't have the canal, they had loads and loads of 216 00:11:57,680 --> 00:11:59,480 great stuff which which I really loved as well. 217 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,320 So I spent quite a while chasing that initial high so I could 218 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,760 hear the rest of the canal. Yeah, because the canal was 219 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:11,720 never issued on one of the Goon Show classics, LP's or, or tapes 220 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,680 that the BBC put out, you know, in the 70s into the 80s. 221 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,280 Yeah, I never understood that. Because it is. 222 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,440 It's better than a lot of the stuff that was released, I 223 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,280 thought. Yeah, yeah, it's an odd one to 224 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,080 be excluded. Bungie can say that about so 225 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,280 many goon shows that weren't on those LP's, all those, all those 226 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,920 early tapes, you know, But it, it eventually came out, I guess 227 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,880 on cassette at some point. So when did you pick it up? 228 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,000 Yeah, It was in my efforts to find the canal, actually, that I 229 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,480 stumbled upon the Moon Show about 20 years ago. 230 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,960 I think I was in already in Germany. 231 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,960 I had bought 100 or so Goon Show episodes on two DVDs from I 232 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,480 think it was. I think it was a legitimate sort 233 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,160 of, it might even have been the Goon Show Preservation Society 234 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,480 or something like that. It was on two DVDs, so 50 235 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,400 episodes in each and print outs of the list. 236 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,880 And I was actually looking for, you know, I'd found the canal. 237 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,200 I was looking for any something else with an interesting title. 238 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:07,840 And I saw the mysterious punch of the conquer and I went, oh, 239 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,960 I'll have that. So I, I, I listened to that, but 240 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,400 the episode was, was mislabeled. It was actually the moon show, 241 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,400 which was the previous episode chronologically. 242 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,000 And I think because also because it has a reference to a punch of 243 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,920 the conch right at the start. It does, yes. 244 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,480 Yes. In fact, there's two references 245 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,280 I think by my counting because I think Seeking threatens 246 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,520 Greenslade with a punch up the conch later on in the show. 247 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:37,160 He does, yes, when Greenslade asks him if he can take his 248 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,800 place. Yeah, Greenslade's angling for 249 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,000 his job. Yes. 250 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,600 Many correspondents have asked why I have not made more 251 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,480 significant and prolonged appearances in my role of 252 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,720 Wallace Greenslade, demon talker. 253 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,200 I can assure you that I have approached Mr. Seagoon with 254 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,920 regard to taking over his part in the show, he said. 255 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:06,840 Well I've got it written down here, you stick to announcing or 256 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:14,400 you will get a punch up your big steaming conch which which as 257 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,600 you all agree, is not the wittiest of lions. 258 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,520 So. I mean, the canal's obviously 259 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,360 the first one you heard and that's probably you would say 260 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,760 that's your favorite, is it? My favorite is probably the 261 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,160 international Christmas pudding. Oh, always loved that for some 262 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,960 reason. And then be mostly the classics 263 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,200 that I would listen to sort of lyrically strikes Britain and 264 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,720 the flea. And I mean, I don't really go by 265 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,520 the series, but I was just looking at series 7. 266 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,440 This is from and there was the flea wings over Dagnham, the 267 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,440 rent collectors histories of the elders. 268 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,000 So a lot of my favourites were were actually in this, in the 269 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,640 same series as this. Absolutely, yeah. 270 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,960 Series 7, I think we, we worked out a while back because we did 271 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:03,120 the listeners top 20 goon shows and we worked out just in terms 272 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,600 of all the votes cast, even those that didn't make the top 273 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,200 20. I think it was, I think I'm 274 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,720 right in saying it might be Series 6, but I think, I think 275 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,640 it was either Series 6 or Series 7 had the most shows that 276 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,520 Lister's enjoyed, you know what I mean? 277 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,000 And and it is a bit looser. Series 7 is a bit looser than 278 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,760 Series 5 certainly, and even Series 6, although as you get 279 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,080 towards the end of Series 6 it loosens up quite a bit. 280 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:29,880 What do you mean by loosen exactly? 281 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,880 It's not so heavily plotted. I mean, they're not. 282 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,320 They're never heavily plotted. Let's face. 283 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,920 It. But but like the ending of this 284 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,760 is just kind of a a nothing the ending of the the main show, 285 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,120 it's just kind of a bit of a damp squib. 286 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,360 And that's often how shows around, you know, late series 7 287 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,840 into certainly series 8 would would end up, but not in a not 288 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:56,120 necessarily loose in a bad way, just kind of anything goes. 289 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,280 And and the voices were becoming a bit loose. 290 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,680 And Moriarty, of course, by this point was, you know, Spike was 291 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,520 leaning into that slightly strangulated Wretch kind of 292 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,040 voice that Moriarty would take on. 293 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,680 Yes. Do you have a favorite 294 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,440 character? My favorite 2 characters would 295 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,320 be Neddy and Grid Pipe. I love Neddy. 296 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:23,840 I think he's often overlooked. He's just, yeah, he's just so 297 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,520 much energy. And I love Grid Pipe because 298 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,840 he's so suave. And yeah, I'm, I'm OK. 299 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,560 Obviously I like Echols and Blue Bottle as well, but I was never, 300 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,120 you know, all that into Echols and Blue Bottle. 301 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:40,320 I always feel that they sort of stop the that they sort of stop 302 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,400 the story. Going anywhere, Yeah, yeah. 303 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,640 Well, I'd say do you enjoy the the shows in particular where 304 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,160 which is which is most of the where grip pipe is chiseling 305 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,360 Neddy? Yes, that's exactly, Yeah, I've 306 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,560 got my notes here. Actually, I I, I said yeah, 307 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,560 Neddy and Grid Pipe are my two favorite characters and I love 308 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,080 plots that revolve around Neddy being taken for a ride by Grid 309 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,000 Pipe, which is most episodes. So pretty much exactly exactly 310 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,560 what you just said. This show is certainly counted 311 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,040 among them. I'll give you I'll give you a 312 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:15,440 bit of background. So this was the 18th episode of 313 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:21,599 Series 7, broadcast 31st of January 1957, written by Spike 314 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,280 Milligan and Larry Stevens and produced by Pat Dixon. 315 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,840 And it was well, the week leading up to this recording, 316 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,640 all three of the goons had been due to appear on the television 317 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:39,360 show What's My Line? But this was cancelled as it was 318 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:42,920 discovered at the last minute that, surprise, surprise, Peter 319 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,400 Sellers had another commitment that clashed with it, and he 320 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:51,840 hadn't bothered telling anyone. So, so the so I mean the are you 321 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,840 aware of What's My Line, the television show? 322 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,360 Vaguely, I've never seen it. Yeah, I mean, the goons 323 00:17:57,360 --> 00:18:00,760 themselves did a a did a show all about it called. 324 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,920 Apparently yes. Which wasn't very good, to be 325 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,760 fair. But, but, but no, I mean, that 326 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,200 would have been brilliant. Obviously. 327 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,120 I suppose even if they'd gone on, it would have been lost. 328 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,960 We wouldn't, we wouldn't be able to see it these days. 329 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,080 But I mean, I guess they must have been they they would have 330 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,800 been on the panel because the whole conceit was that you'd 331 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,600 have a panel of three personalities and then some non 332 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,040 entity would would come out and give clues as to his or her 333 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,520 occupation. And then the panel had to guess 334 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,200 what that occupation was. So I'm guessing that the goons 335 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,040 would have been on the panel, which would have been brilliant. 336 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,760 Yes, it would have been. Brilliant such a thing. 337 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,640 And the night before they recorded this episode, The Moon 338 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,360 Show, Spike appeared on The Eamonn Andrews Show on 339 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:44,880 television. All right, Eamonn Andrews. 340 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,120 Yeah, I'm brilliant. Yes, one of your fellow 341 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:48,800 countrymen 1. Of my fellow countrymen, yeah. 342 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,280 Now, transcription services always, you know, when they, 343 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,520 when they sent these shows out, they included the synopsis, 344 00:18:58,120 --> 00:19:01,680 which is usually quite pithy and gives a, you know, a good sort 345 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,040 of flavour as to what the show's about. 346 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:09,320 And for this one, the synopsis reads, it is 1853. 347 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,600 The poet Nadie Seagoon, in search of romance, cries for the 348 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,120 moon. Blood tests show that the moon, 349 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:18,520 which is owned by Count Moriarty, is French. 350 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:21,160 He is forced to sell it by public auction. 351 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,680 Neddy outbids all his opponents, and the moon is his. 352 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,560 But is it the genuine moon? We doubt very much whether this 353 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,320 program will tell you so. That's it. 354 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,720 It's. Great. 355 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:40,120 Now this show. I've said this before on Goon 356 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:43,400 Pod. I was obsessed with it, with the 357 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,960 Goon show when I was, you know, I first listened to it when I 358 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,480 was 14 by accident. I've said this so many times, 359 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,440 people are skipping forth 30 seconds now on their, on their 360 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,880 phones. But I, I was so obsessed by it 361 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,520 that it got to the stage where I remember, I remember really hot, 362 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:05,000 blisteringly hot summer afternoon, summer of 88 into 89. 363 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,040 Because of course, summer there when I was growing up was 364 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,480 December, January, February. I and I was, I was off school 365 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,040 because it was school holidays and I remember all my friends 366 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,760 were out, you know, playing in the sun and frolicking. 367 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:23,040 And, and I was sat inside, sat indoors at my dad's old manual 368 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,680 typewriter, old Remington manual typewriter, which I think the E 369 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:33,040 or the T didn't work properly. And I was transcribing the Moon 370 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,320 show. I was, I was typing out the 371 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,360 script or typing out a transcript of the actual show, 372 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:41,880 right? Don't ask me why. 373 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,440 I just remember doing it. And it taken me all afternoon 374 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,960 because I'd, I'd be listening to the episode and then, and then 375 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,120 pause again after a couple of seconds and typing out what was 376 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:53,680 said or what the sound effect was, you know what I mean? 377 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,200 And then playing it again for another few seconds and pausing 378 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,560 it and typing up. You know what I mean? 379 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,040 And I did that for the whole entire show of, you know, 380 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:02,520 episode of the Moon show. Right. 381 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,720 And I don't know why I chose the Moon show. 382 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,600 I do enjoy it, but it wasn't not necessarily my favorite game 383 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,600 show episode. I don't know what it was. 384 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,760 And also, I'm sure having having listened to it now and having 385 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,760 read the actual proper script and also the, the GSPS 386 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,960 transcript of the show, there's, there's lines here and things 387 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,080 like that that I would never have picked up my ear would not 388 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:29,080 have picked up as a, as a callow 14 year old youth, relatively 389 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,320 inexperienced in life and, and educated to a degree. 390 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,840 And listening to it for this and enjoying it very much. 391 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:44,000 It struck me that it was Spike's swipe at the modern poets. 392 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:50,040 I feel right now. I know that he, I mean, as, as 393 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,640 everyone knows, Spike went on to become a very accomplished poet 394 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,320 and very well regarded and his, his poetry is, you know, people 395 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:02,600 still enjoy his poetry to to this day, but he's, you know, 396 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,280 it's nonsense poetry. I, I don't really know how he 397 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,320 felt about the quote modern poets around this time. 398 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,600 So I'm talking the likes of chiefly. 399 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,400 Philip Larkin. Yeah, possible. 400 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,720 I think. I think Larkin was possibly a 401 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,680 little bit more conventional. Yeah, conventional. 402 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:26,760 As was the likes of WH Jordan. Anyway, I don't know enough 403 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,840 about poetry to speak with a new authority. 404 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,680 I know that Philip Larkin wrote this be the verse and things 405 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,800 like that, but I think things like people like Dylan Thomas, 406 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,280 particularly under Milk Wood, which was is quite a stream of 407 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,640 consciousness to a degree. It's quite absurd, which should 408 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,720 have appealed to to to Spike. But I've got a feeling that 409 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:54,520 Spike was a bit sort of bemused about avant-garde poetry, which 410 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,400 is what I want to call it. Yeah, it could be. 411 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,240 It could be that they were, that he felt that that they were 412 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,640 taking his shtick and making it something intellectual rather 413 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,800 than something humour. Maybe. 414 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,160 Yeah, could be that. Maybe, yeah. 415 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,120 So I, I, as I say, I, I this, I think this is a bit of a dig at 416 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,560 the modern poetry movement. If if there is such a thing or 417 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,400 was such a thing. Now there's there's a bit 418 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,040 memorably, this is the bit that many people remember about this 419 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,600 show. There's the the sequence where 420 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,840 where grit pipe thin makes up a poem. 421 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,120 And I've just put my notes here. Grit pipe recites crap poem. 422 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,000 There once was a beautiful moon. It was up in the sky charm when 423 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,400 he said what's the time? They replied what and the horse 424 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:51,920 departed leaving spawn. It's not just the words, but 425 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,960 it's the way it's delivered. Yes, and also what I love about 426 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,840 about grid pipe in this episode is that he's a bit more 427 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,480 cultivated than the usual sort of steam the stamp off and catch 428 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,320 it. I mean, he seems, he seems 429 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,760 generally put out that Neddy complaints that his poem doesn't 430 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,680 rhyme or scan. About a year ago, I guess maybe 431 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:19,760 more than that, on Gamepod, we covered the the the last one of 432 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,640 Peter Sellers, which was the fiendish plot of Doctor Fu 433 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,960 Manchu. And my guests on that were 434 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:33,120 Jeremy and Paul from the Trap Comedy Trio, and they mentioned 435 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:37,200 the poem from this episode. That contains our favorite 436 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,880 insanity inspired. Joy, Yeah. 437 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,760 Pure Miller. Miller Garner, I presume it is. 438 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,120 The Limerick is. Let me see if I can remember it. 439 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,920 There once was a beautiful moon. It was up in the sky, chum. 440 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,520 And he said, what's the time? They replied, what? 441 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,440 And the horse departed, leaving spawn. 442 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:02,360 Honestly, that's the maddest thing that's ever been 443 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,000 broadcast. Which is? 444 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,480 It was those exact words that crack the Enigma machine. 445 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:09,640 Right. Doesn't make any sense. 446 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Who are they? What? 447 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,680 Exactly. He said what? 448 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,720 And I mentioned to a friend of mine last night that I'm doing 449 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,640 this episode and he said, oh, then once it was a beautiful 450 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,920 moon. It was up in the sky jump. 451 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:29,960 So it's it's resonated, yes. So I don't necessarily want to 452 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,880 go through because I don't tend to go through these episodes in 453 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,720 a linear fashion. Like I think you said about the 454 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,360 Black Eyed podcast you had, there's not a lot of purpose in 455 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:44,120 doing that, but there's some sense in me giving a bit of an 456 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:45,640 overview. I mean, that's synopsis I said 457 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,200 earlier, didn't really help very much. 458 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,200 But essentially we've got Ned Segan, who's an aspiring poet, 459 00:25:54,320 --> 00:26:00,200 and he buys a poetic license from Grip Piper Moriarty, and he 460 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:07,800 begins composing poetic verse in tribute to the moon largely. 461 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,640 And Grip Piper Moriarty persuaded Neddy that the moon 462 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,520 was in Moriarty's family for many years, but it's now being 463 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,520 auctioned off. And Ned buys the moon. 464 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,160 And when he hears blood not singing, it was spring, and the 465 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,560 moon above Paris, he realizes the one above England must be a 466 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,120 forgery. And so on and so on. 467 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,800 And there's a joke, which again, that, you know, back in 1988 or 468 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,760 1989, whenever I was typing away, there's a joke that 469 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,880 completely passed me by. And it's only now as an adult, 470 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,360 but I actually get it. What, what, what, what, what, 471 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:44,680 what, what, what, what, what, what, what? 472 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,000 Only 10 watts? Oh, not very bright. 473 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:56,320 Hey, don't. Push the note and it's only now 474 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,440 if I get that that's a joke about WATTS. 475 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,760 Yeah, yeah. Did you always get that? 476 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,520 Yes, I definitely got it. Yeah. 477 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,440 Although to be fair, I first heard this when I was about 25, 478 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,040 so it would have been rather silly and. 479 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,360 Of course. OK, so yes, so, so Sea Sea Goon 480 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:18,840 is being swindled, fooled by Grip Piper Moriarty, who claimed 481 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,120 to have ownership of the moon. There's the bit where Grip Pipe 482 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,120 asks Neddy to write a check on the side of a horse. 483 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,400 Now that was a joke, of course. But didn't there used to be 484 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,040 something that you could, you could write a check on anything 485 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,280 and it would be valid like you could. 486 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,920 And the famous thing was you could, you could write a check 487 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,000 on the side of a cow and it would still be valid. 488 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,480 Have you heard that before? No, no, I just thought it was. 489 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,120 I thought it was just weirdness for weirdness sake basically. 490 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,640 No, I am. I'm sure that used to people 491 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,400 that used to be a thing that people would say you could write 492 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,640 a cheque on anything and the bank would have to honour it. 493 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:03,360 Even if it was, you know, if you painted I owe such and such 5 494 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,960 lbs on the side of a cow, then took it to the bank, they'd have 495 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,600 to cash in that cow. Probably the the. 496 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,400 There was probably more than a gem of truth from that, but. 497 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,800 It could have been yes, it could have been because he gives him a 498 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,920 receipt on a banjo. That's. 499 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,200 Right. Yes. 500 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,000 So. What, what bits of this show, of 501 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,960 this particular episode appeal to you? 502 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,280 Right. My favorite bit is when Neddy is 503 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,280 invited to Good Pipes office in the tree and as they climb up 504 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,160 the tree you can hear the sound of a busy 1950s office. 505 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:38,680 So typewriters clacking the hung of conversation and I just think 506 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,360 that's brilliant. That is my favorite part, 507 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,520 definitely. Listen, Neddy, you're very. 508 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,840 Fond of the moon, aren't you? Yes, if only two of mine. 509 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,240 Neddy, it can be. Step up into the tree, into my 510 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,560 office. Good morning now, Neddy. 511 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,680 Pull up your trousers and sit down. 512 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,000 Neddy. The moon has been in Mariati's 513 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,080 family for many generations. You mean the mood is of French 514 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,040 origin? So the blood tests show. 515 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,680 Yeah, so I, I, I think that this episode is very front loaded. 516 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,640 There's an awful lot of good stuff at the start and it sort 517 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,080 of runs out of steam with at the end. 518 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,880 As always. As always, yes. 519 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:23,840 Yeah, I want to talk about because you'd listened to, you 520 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,840 were familiar with the transcription services version, 521 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:33,560 yes, editor version of this, which lasts 27 minutes all in. 522 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,760 But you'd also I think you said your version had had Ray and Max 523 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,520 cut out of it. Yes, which was my doing. 524 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,200 It's like right, there we go. So there's my next question. 525 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,640 Are you not a fan of Ray and Max? 526 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,520 I think that, I mean the chromatic harmonica is when he 527 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,120 play, I mean, obviously he's a, he's a genius. 528 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,720 He he obviously he's, he's absolute master of the 529 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,000 instrument, but it just sounds so awful compared to when Stevie 530 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,280 Wonder played it, for example, and it just sounds so joyous and 531 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,000 magical and it's the same instrument. 532 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,480 So I could all out Max Geldry generally. 533 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,760 I do like some of Ray Ellington's stuff. 534 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,080 I do like it when he plays Fats Waller or stuff like that. 535 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,080 But yeah, it's not what I'm there for. 536 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,480 OK, fair enough. Fair enough. 537 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,280 So yeah, so I checked with you. You you'd heard the edited 538 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,480 version, so I sent you the fully restored version that you can 539 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,440 get on the Goonshoe Compendium. And there's, there's, there's a 540 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,920 few bits that you're would not have been accustomed to, I 541 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,800 guess. Yes, there was quite a lot about 542 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,000 Stanley Matthews. Right. 543 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,360 He was an an English footballer, he. 544 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,320 Was He was probably the most famous English foot. 545 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,560 In fact, he's myself. I've got a complete tin ear when 546 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,000 it comes to football. So I cannot hold my own ever in 547 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,560 conversations with people. You know, if I if back back in 548 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,760 the day when my kids were little and I used to have to take them 549 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,800 to bloody kids parties, you know, and very often, usually 550 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,280 there'd be mums taking their kids to these kids parties, but 551 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,640 they'd generally be one or two rather gloomy faced dads there 552 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,240 as well. And, and you kind of go up to 553 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,920 them and sort of nod and then make small talk at these at 554 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:24,120 these affairs, OK. And generally speaking, the 555 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,480 conversation would turn to football. 556 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,120 Yes. That is the default topic of 557 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:34,880 conversation, which I sadly just said completely at sea. 558 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,400 You know, I I can't join in these conversations at all. 559 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,800 You're not the only one. Yeah, so, but, you know, 560 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,880 sometimes I would try and pretend that I knew what I was 561 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,160 talking about. And so, you know, if, if the 562 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,640 conversation went along the lines of, you know, did you see 563 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,840 the match last night, I, I knew it was fairly safe ground to 564 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,240 say, well, yeah, it was a game of two halves and usually get 565 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,200 away with it, you know, because you're not, you're not being 566 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,600 specific about anything. Sorry, can I just interrupt you 567 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,600 very, very quickly? You know, there's an IT Crowd 568 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,640 episode about exactly that. Is there? 569 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,720 Oh yes. Oh right, I didn't know that. 570 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:18,000 I'm not plagiarizing the IT crowd, but my knowledge of 571 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,800 actual footballers extended to around this time, probably David 572 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:27,880 Beckham, Rio Ferdinand and Stanley Matthews, which is 573 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,600 complete anachronism, of course. But no, he was he was probably 574 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,480 the most famous English footballer of of his. 575 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,600 Well, he would have been of his day. 576 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,480 And it's very interesting because I've got a copy of Larry 577 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,960 Stevens actual script for this show. 578 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,240 OK. And presumably he must have been 579 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,000 there at the rehearsal on the, on the Sunday that they were 580 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,680 recording this ahead of them recording this. 581 00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:00,280 And we've got the, the sequence with Blue Bottle and Echoes. 582 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:06,160 And they, they are astronomers that Nettie is going to consult. 583 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:13,080 And in the original script, So if you read the Blue Bottle echo 584 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,160 sequence in the original script, it's relatively short, 585 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,080 relatively short leading up to before Minnie and Henry arrive. 586 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,440 It's quite short. OK, if I'm, I'm talking about 587 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,800 the original and I'm looking at the original script here and 588 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:34,280 Larry Stevens has crossed out the what, half a page of Blue 589 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,960 Bottle and Echo's dialogue here. And then on the back of page 590 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:43,600 nine of the script, he, I'm assuming it's he, Larry has 591 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,320 written a, a bunch of brand new dialogue between Blue Bottle and 592 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,640 Echo's. So I'm, I'm assuming that what 593 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,800 what's happened is that he's been there at rehearsal with 594 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,960 Spike and Peter and Harry and they've decided amongst 595 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,920 themselves that the sequence as written in the script is a bit 596 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,800 flat. So let's, let's bulk it out a 597 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,600 bit, let's add a bit of extra colour to it. 598 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,480 And they add this dialogue between Blue Bottle Knuckles 599 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,679 that includes references to Anisa Eckberg. 600 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:23,360 Hey, Professor Eckles, that Anita Eckberg's a fine big 601 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,560 guarantee. Yeah, here, let me share that 602 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:35,000 postcard 0. Oh yeah, she's a fine big girl, 603 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,199 all right. That's not her. 604 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,920 There's a picture of Stanley Matthew. 605 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,480 Oh well, he's a fine big girl too now. 606 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,960 Done. Please Professor Bottle my good 607 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,760 mind, let me get on with my mathematical work. 608 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:03,720 Not getting. Oh, why would you let me say no 609 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,200 computations? I am mathematics. 610 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:22,960 Hello mathematics X is the unknown X. 611 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,440 Who do you think Arsenal will beat the Spur this week? 612 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,760 I should think. I should think it's most 613 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,520 unlikely. Why? 614 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:42,160 They're playing Blackpool. Oh, who here? 615 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,360 Doesn't Stanley Matthews play for them? 616 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,400 Yeah, he's a fine big girl, isn't he? 617 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,000 I need Redburg. She doesn't play football. 618 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,560 Who cares? About football. 619 00:36:09,730 --> 00:36:13,050 Most of that new material was actually cut from the 620 00:36:13,050 --> 00:36:16,410 transcription services edit of this particular show. 621 00:36:17,650 --> 00:36:20,170 And it's quite interesting as well because we get Minnie and 622 00:36:20,170 --> 00:36:24,730 Henry arriving and I think Henry is meant to be a professor, 623 00:36:24,730 --> 00:36:28,960 although maybe heads up the, the, the, what is it? 624 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,480 Observatory? That's what it would be, isn't 625 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,080 it? But Blue Bottle refers to many 626 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:36,920 as Auntie Men. Auntie. 627 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,600 Men, Yeah. Which he's done a few times in 628 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,680 the show. Many and and Blue Bottle have 629 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,280 this little scripted dialogue where many asked Blue Bottle why 630 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,080 he's out of bed without his pajama trousers on and he says. 631 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,480 We was playing from the latest films, Eric. 632 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,240 Little Jim had my pajama trousers over his neck. 633 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,440 He got one arm down, the Lego waving about like a trunk. 634 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:09,320 He was an elephant, you see. But suddenly I sneezed and I see 635 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,240 the my trousers fell out, knocking Little Jim into the 636 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:14,760 bath. Oh dear, dear Little Jim. 637 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:21,160 Little Jim, Little Jim. Tell them what happened, Little 638 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:27,520 Jim. Zarac, does that meant, does 639 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,800 that mean anything to you at all? 640 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,560 No. OK, so this is where the whole 641 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:38,560 Anita Ekberg thing comes in. Because Zarac was a feature film 642 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,920 which had literally been released in cinemas in the UK 643 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:47,160 what fortnight before this show was recorded and it was causing 644 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,760 quite a bit of controversy and quite a lot of harrumphing in 645 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:58,800 the media and and in Parliament. It was a 1956, what do you call 646 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,120 it, adventure film. And it was directed by future 647 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,800 bomb director, I think Terence Young. 648 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,360 And it starred Victor Mature, Michael Welding and Anita 649 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,360 Eckberg and also a very young Patrick Mcgoohan. 650 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,520 And it's basically a forget. I mean, I've never seen it. 651 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,640 In fact, I've never heard of it really outside of this show, but 652 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:23,440 it's it's basically the, the, the, the, the, the title 653 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,800 character Zarek becomes a bandit chief and an enemy of the 654 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,000 British Empire. But Anita Ekberg was quite 655 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,640 famous or infamous around this time for being quite voluptuous, 656 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:42,000 quite quite busty and a a poster promoting the film in which she 657 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,200 was very much front and centre even though she wasn't the star. 658 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,040 Of the film. Questions were actually asked in 659 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,280 the house. All right now I want to thank, I 660 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,880 want to thank friend of the show, Paul Abbott, by the way, 661 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,400 because Paul is the guy to go to what I want. 662 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,800 You know, well, not just it's not just Paul, but Paul, Paul is 663 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,680 one of the friends of the show who can summon up newspaper 664 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,720 archive material at the, you know, at the stroke of a of a 665 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:12,200 key. By the way, listeners, I'm a 666 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:15,800 avid listener every Monday morning to Paul and his brother 667 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,720 Gary's podcast The Big Beatles Sort Out, which is known to its 668 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:25,120 third series, I think, which is The Big 60s Sort Out, in which 669 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,720 Paul and Gary examine and discuss every number one single 670 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,120 in the UK from the 1960s. And I think they're up to 671 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,920 something ridiculous like episode 28, not 2930. 672 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,200 And they're only up to 1966 for Cliff's sake. 673 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,600 Fascinating. Very, very informative, very 674 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,840 funny. And it's a really good listen. 675 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,840 So please seek out big 60s sort out. 676 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,680 Brought to you by the big Beatles sort out. 677 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,080 And also, I'll embarrass him now. 678 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:03,960 But Paul is also the man behind the music biopic or biopic? 679 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,120 Not sure. I can never know which 680 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,480 pronunciation to use. Music biopic story on Instagram. 681 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,420 You can check that out. It's instagram.com/music under 682 00:40:16,420 --> 00:40:22,440 score biopic and Paul is putting up content there from basically 683 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:29,000 every film about musicians or a musician or such like. 684 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,760 So yeah, check that out and that's on Instagram. 685 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,000 Thanks again, Paul. And can I have my cat back now, 686 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,320 please? There was a little column in the 687 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,400 Daily Telegraph on the 10th of January 57 saying ban on Ekberg 688 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,680 film poster nudity. Objection, said a film poster 689 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,200 showing Anita Ekberg. The actress has been banned by 690 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,520 the joint censorship committee of the poster advertising 691 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,520 industry on the grounds that it is too nude, too nude Right now 692 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,280 I've seen it. It ain't too nude. 693 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,560 It's it's. Works time. 694 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,440 No, I wouldn't even say that it's quite, it's quite quite 695 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,240 tame I think. But it was attacked recently by 696 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:11,360 Lord Lucas as bordering on the obscene, would you believe? 697 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,880 So it's a little bit of pill clutching going on there I 698 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,800 think. The poster advertised in the 699 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,640 film Zarek shows a 12 foot long Miss Ekberg reclining in a 700 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,360 desert in front of a shake on a prancing horse. 701 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,280 So far it has appeared on 8 hoardings in the West End. 702 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,720 But yeah, so this poster was was causing all no, no end of bother 703 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,760 in the media at the time. And as a result, we have this 704 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,680 reference going back to it, going back to the show where 705 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,000 Blue Bottle and Little Jim have been playing at Zarac. 706 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:49,040 And hence we get the reference in this speedily rewritten 707 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,360 sequence with blue bottleneckles on the day, you know, including 708 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,280 Anita Ekberg. But it's an interesting example 709 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,840 of them writing on the fly, still writing the show on the 710 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,560 afternoon of the recording, you know? 711 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,680 So was that the actual script that Larry Stevens had and was 712 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,640 and had written on himself? It's a copy of it. 713 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,640 It's fascinating. Look at these scripts because as 714 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,120 I say, there's all crossings, outs and amendments and 715 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,280 additions, you know? So, yeah. 716 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,000 And we mentioned Little Jim. What did you think of Little 717 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:25,040 Jim's appearance in this? Yeah, I don't find Little Jim 718 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,280 very funny particularly, especially since I heard that 719 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,240 Spike introduced him as a kind of bet that he could introduce a 720 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:36,640 catch phrase. And he wasn't inherently funny 721 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,040 either. And and even less funny when 722 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,280 when you hear how contrived it was so. 723 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,120 Yeah, that's all it was. And he was introduced in The 724 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,120 Rent Collectors officially, although Spike can't resist 725 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:54,560 doing a little he's he's falling in the water in Wings Over 726 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,680 Dagenham, which was actually recorded, I think I'm writing 727 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,280 saying the same night as The Rent Collectors. 728 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,120 But officially, Little Jim, his debut was in The Rent 729 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,400 Collectors. And that's where we hear this 730 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,600 catch phrase is falling in the water for the first time 731 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,880 officially. And then you have the show after 732 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,800 Rent Collectors, which is Shifting Sands and which Little 733 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,360 Jim doesn't appear at all. And then you have this show and 734 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,320 Little Jim dutifully trots out his catch phrase, which everyone 735 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,560 seems to enjoy because it's still quite fresh. 736 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,360 And then a little bit later in the show, he says that again and 737 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,600 gets just as much appreciation. But but unlike you, I'm with 738 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:33,960 you. I, I was never a big fan of 739 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,640 Little Jim. No, despite trying to make a 740 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,280 point, I don't quite know. Or just it was another voice for 741 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,400 him to do. Yeah, he's been quite 742 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,960 contemptuous of his audience, really. 743 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,840 I mean, he's saying, oh, we'll give him any old crap and, and 744 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,880 they'll laugh and and they'll if it's a catch phrase that they'll 745 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,120 love it. Yeah, well, the very cynically 746 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,200 they he has form for doing that, although it doesn't exist 747 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,160 anymore. There's there's early goon show 748 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,360 or an early goon show or goon shows where he's tried to 749 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,040 crowbar in catch phrases which never taken off, generally 750 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,760 speaking, like more Cole, Larry, Larry, more Cole. 751 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,480 That was one of them and others in that vein. 752 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,560 Yeah. I mean, it might be a savage 753 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,160 indictment against the state of radio comedy in the 1950s by 754 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,320 Spike. I'm not quite sure. 755 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,840 Or just meant that he you know, it's an easy bit for him to 756 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,480 write in the script every week. Tail you. 757 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,240 This is an enjoyable show. There's there's a couple of 758 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:38,040 lines in particular. I loved the bit when when Grip 759 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,360 Pipe and and Moriarty are on a train, they're catching a train 760 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,080 to Tangiers I think. I especially asked for the sheet 761 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,720 grip pipe with our backs to the engine. 762 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,920 I wondered why we were sitting on the cow catcher. 763 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,600 When I first heard that as a kid, it just the whole image of 764 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,040 that, it just, it was like a cartoon image in my head. 765 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,400 That is so funny. And of course, Sellers doing a 766 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,520 comedy Italian at one point. You saved my life. 767 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,880 Well, we all make mistakes. I know I saw your wife etcetera, 768 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,560 etcetera, all that all that is very, very good. 769 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,680 But it is, you know, it is fairly, it is a fairly by the 770 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,320 numbers going show. Well, I, I would just think that 771 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,720 it's my favorite of the shows that not all would know it's my, 772 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,960 I mean, I would know all the classics. 773 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,640 I would know all the ones in your top 20, for example. 774 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,320 But these will be ones that a lot of people wouldn't know, for 775 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,720 example. And I think they're missing out 776 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,440 because there's a lot to like about this. 777 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,040 There's a lot of good gags. There's also we mentioned Ray 778 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,280 and Max before. You won't have heard this 779 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,360 because you cut this bit out, but in the Ray number. 780 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,760 I heard it today. Oh, you heard it today. 781 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,280 Yes, as as as it reaches its climax, Men decides to join in 782 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,960 and makes it makes Ray Breakdown laughing. 783 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:15,760 Is this the word? And I love it that they kept 784 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,880 that in and they didn't try to redo it or whatever, but it 785 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,520 really adds to it. Yeah. 786 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,120 So one thing I was wondering actually was whether people were 787 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,680 more poetry literate in those days. 788 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,680 Well, perhaps. For example, OK, Philip Larkin 789 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,960 sort of came to prominence in the mid 50s, and I would imagine 790 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,960 he was pretty much a household name. 791 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,000 OK, perhaps not a household name, but if you ask people 792 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,480 nowadays who is the current poet laureate, I don't think you're 793 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,400 going to get many, many answers, no. 794 00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:47,600 Yeah, I mean, I don't know how famous he was back then. 795 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:53,040 He was, he became famous. I mean, I chiefly know him for 796 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,240 his friendship with Kingsley Amos, for this be the verse with 797 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,400 with that infamous opening line, and for the fact he was a keen 798 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,080 connoisseur of pornography. Yes, yes. 799 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,280 But no, I'm sure that the 1950s audiences would have been much 800 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:19,720 more poetry literate than than scumbags like us in 2024. 801 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,080 Let's face it, people would have been listening to the radio a 802 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,520 lot more and and you'd have had improving programs featuring 803 00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:29,120 poetry readings and things like that. 804 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,960 I'm sure you know every other day at least. 805 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,640 Yes, yes, I'm sure. Yeah, sure. 806 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,200 And Speaking of that, actually, because you're, you're a, you're 807 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,880 a queen fan. You're a huge queen fan. 808 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,720 I'm guessing in general, you're a big music fan. 809 00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:46,360 Are you of that period, that that period, that sort of queen, 810 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,320 that 70s into the 80s period or, or? 811 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,880 Not yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. 812 00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:54,360 Where are you going with this Tyler all? 813 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,400 Right. Well, OK, well, there's two how 814 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,480 do I put this? How do I put this? 815 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,480 It's just occurred to me now I was going to mention it earlier 816 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,800 and I completely forgot, but you've you by you mentioning 817 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,440 about the audiences being poetry literate. 818 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,160 There's there's there's two poets at least directly or 819 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,160 indirectly referenced in this particular episode who inspired 820 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:25,840 2 very popular popular music acts, if you like. 821 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,160 Robert Browning was mentioned. Well, Robert Browning, yeah, but 822 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,720 he didn't inspire anyone in terms of popular music, as far 823 00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:37,640 as I know. He may have, he may have 824 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:38,920 inspired Taylor Swift, I don't know. 825 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,080 But as far as I know, no, not him. 826 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,960 Not him. There's a bit where Blood Knock 827 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,280 refers to Neddy as as Neddy under Milk Pudding, which is 828 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,000 obviously a reference to. Dylan Thomas, Yeah. 829 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,880 And of course, Dylan Thomas. In what way did he inspire 830 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:56,720 someone? Can you? 831 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,640 Can you think? Bob Dylan. 832 00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:05,440 Bob Dylan, Bob Dylan, Bob Dylan was going, I believe Bob Dylan 833 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,080 was going to was going to call himself Bob Dylan anyway, but it 834 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,520 was going to be spelled DI double LON. 835 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,080 And then he read, I don't know if whether he read under Milk 836 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,600 water. He read some of Dylan Thomas 837 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,600 poems and decided now I'm going to, I'm going to call myself Bob 838 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,120 Dylan Dylan. There you go. 839 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:30,680 But more interestingly, at one point earlier on the show, when 840 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:36,800 Grip Hub and Moriarty first meet Ned, Neddy refers to himself as 841 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,240 Neddy Davis Seigen, celebrated ink writer and tramp poet for 842 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:45,320 East Clun. Did you pick up on that? 843 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,480 No. Well, yeah, I heard, he said 844 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,960 Davis. But I I don't understand the 845 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,840 things. Well, I didn't for the longest 846 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,960 time. I didn't know what that meant, 847 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,040 who that was referring to, Neddy, Davis, Segan. 848 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,480 Now I think it's the fact what gives it away is he refers 849 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:07,040 himself as a tramp poet. And excuse me, there is the poet 850 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:15,600 WH Davis, who was a Welsh poet who travelled around Britain and 851 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,480 and the United States pretty much as a hobo, as a tramp, 852 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,200 living, living rough. But then he started publishing 853 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:30,040 poetry as a means of earning a living and he became quite 854 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,560 celebrated. He died in, I think he was born 855 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,520 in the 1870s. He died in 1940. 856 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,880 Yeah. So he was this, this tramp who 857 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:44,040 was a poet essentially. And he wrote his Probably his 858 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,800 most famous work was The Autobiography of a Supertramp. 859 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,320 OK. And that's where Supertramp got 860 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,800 the name from, right? That's where Supertramp got 861 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,960 their name from, and that was chronicling the life of a 862 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,680 gentleman of the road. And not only Supertramp the 863 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,560 Band, but it was, it was championed by the likes of 864 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,120 George Bernard Shaw and it was thought to have influenced 865 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,480 Orwell's Down and Out in Paris and London. 866 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,960 And Dylan Thomas recorded it for broadcast on BBC Radio in 1948. 867 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,480 Right, so there we go. So we're back there. 868 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,480 So, you know, a couple of, I mean, you know, Dylan's OK, but 869 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:26,080 Supertramp, you know, that is Major League Music legends 870 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,400 there, aren't we? And I do like, I do like me some 871 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,160 Supertramp being honest, I really do. 872 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,960 In fact, I prefer, I mean, I like Queen, OK. 873 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,480 But if you, if you, if you ask me, what would you prefer to 874 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,760 listen to the best of Queen or the best of Supertramp? 875 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,120 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 876 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,720 It would be. It would be the best of 877 00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:45,520 Supertramp every time. OK, now what I'd love to do now 878 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,600 is to play a goon's clip of feet walking away. 879 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:55,560 The door's slamming. Yes. 880 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,320 Well, yeah. There we go. 881 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,800 I'm sure you could help someday. Yeah, OK. 882 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,040 So look, it's, it's a slight show, the moon show, there's not 883 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,200 a huge amount to to to talk about, but we've we've I think 884 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,760 we've covered the major points. So now, now that we've got that 885 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,240 unpleasantness out of the way, I'm only joking, listeners. 886 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,720 Now I want to talk a little bit about Blackadder. 887 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,440 Yes, if you don't mind. And I just don't want to 888 00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:25,440 infringe upon any plans that you've got in terms of content 889 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,720 for your show. No, no, no, no. 890 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,320 But I do recall you have some quite heretical views. 891 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,160 Do I? In what? 892 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,880 In what fashion? I'm a leader. 893 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,960 Well, I well, in the sense that, but you're in agreement with me 894 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,880 because I think that Series 1, the Blackadder is criminally 895 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:48,440 underrated. I think it is after series 2. 896 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:53,520 It's my favorite series and I preparing for this because I 897 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,640 knew we were going to talk about Blackadder a little bit. 898 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,800 Anyway, I just jotted down a couple of favourites. 899 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,600 OK, so I've jotted down my favorite episode of each of the 900 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:08,240 four series and cards on the table, by the way. 901 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,520 It used to be, I don't know what's changed as I've got 902 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,760 older. It used to be that my my 903 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:24,400 favorite series of Blackadder would would run series 2, then 904 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:29,560 the Blackadder, so series 1, then Blackadder Goes Forth, and 905 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,160 then Blackadder the third. I always used to be quite cool 906 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,960 towards Blackadder the Third, comparatively speaking. 907 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:40,640 Yes, that's what I remembered. But in in recent years, having 908 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:47,840 watched rewatched bits of goes forth, I'm not as I'm not as 909 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,560 into it as it used to be. Yes, I heard you talk about that 910 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,200 with Chris. Oh, Chris Diamond, Yeah. 911 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,800 Yes, with Chris Diamond, and I think he said it was a bit more 912 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,280 self referential. Was that it? 913 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,560 There was a lot. There was a lot more Ben 914 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:07,000 Altonisms, yes, that they kind of relied on, I felt. 915 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,840 But anyway, I've written down my favorite episodes from each of 916 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,840 the four series. So from series one from the 917 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,320 Blackadder, it's always been this. 918 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,640 The Queen of Spain's beard has always been yes, My favorite 919 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,480 yes, just for Jim Broadbent more than anything. 920 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:28,280 Yes, absolutely. Then from Series 2, Blackadder 921 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,600 2, it's beer. So a return again of Miriam 922 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,080 Magalies, because I thought she was, she was the Spanish infant. 923 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,760 Yes, that was the that was the most popular among viewers and 924 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,080 the least popular among the cast for that season. 925 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,400 Oh, why was why was it at least popular? 926 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,920 I mean, you know, I know that Miriam Magalies kept hitting 927 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,120 people. It could be that actually, yeah, 928 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,280 yeah. From Blackader the Third, it's 929 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,720 Sense and Senility, with Hugh Paddock and Kenneth Connor as 930 00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:03,120 the actors. Yes. 931 00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:10,520 I love that and from goes forth, it's actually, and I don't quite 932 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,000 know why, but it's General Hospital. 933 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,960 Could be Miranda Richards. Yeah, Miranda Richardson episode 934 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:22,240 with Bill Wallace as Yeah, as is it Smith, Smith, Smith. 935 00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:26,560 Yes, yes. It's just for it's for the post 936 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:31,240 coital cigarette sequence and a few lines here and there, but 937 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:37,520 mostly it's for the bit that it just completely pulled the rug. 938 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:42,760 It's the bit right at the end where Blackadder reveals that 939 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,480 it's actually Miranda Richardson, her character, Nurse 940 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:47,560 Brown. Is that right? 941 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,280 Who's who's the German spy? And then you have that, that 942 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,840 tender moment when she looks him in the eye and she says, oh, 943 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,560 Edmund, I thought. I thought she loved me. 944 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,280 And there's a heartbeat as he stares at it. 945 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,840 And he just goes, Nah, and sends her away. 946 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,800 Yes. You all romantic here. 947 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,720 I remember laughing so much at that. 948 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,000 Favorite character overall from you know, regular character I 949 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:19,520 would say would be Percy. I really love Percy, 950 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,800 particularly series 2 Percy. And my favorite one off 951 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,680 character would be Warren Clark as Mr. Hardwood. 952 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,480 You know, I had a feeling that you're going to say that and 953 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,320 actually, yes. And in the episode we're going 954 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,000 to be recording on on Sunday morning, he's going to be a 955 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,760 scene stealer. Oh, brilliant, yes, but you can 956 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,600 mention me on the on the show when you when you record it, you 957 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,880 can mention that's my favorite, my favorite one off character. 958 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,080 So yeah, I mean, I just wanted to throw that in because when, 959 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,800 when else am I going to get a chance, unless I guessed on your 960 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,960 podcast sometime to talk? About You have been invited 961 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,560 several times. Well, I will, I will turn up 962 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,040 now. What is the form? 963 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,160 Do I have to come on with six favorite episodes or something? 964 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,680 Is that is that how it works? Well, we have yeah, the Ark for 965 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,160 want of a better word of the first season, for want of a much 966 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:13,280 better word is a newbie list. So what happens is a friend of 967 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,280 ours, it was a podcast, Shakespearean actor, comedy 968 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,000 nerd, but he's American, so he doesn't hasn't seen Blackout 969 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,680 before. So what we, what we're doing 970 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:30,680 with our listeners is getting people to list 6 episodes that 971 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,040 will be an introduction to someone who has never seen a 972 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,000 black guy before. And we're going to show it to 973 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,000 this, this friend, he's going to come on in in a couple of months 974 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:43,360 time and talk us through them. So I would imagine that by the 975 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,920 time you come on, we'll be, we'll have moved on to the 976 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,800 second season. So yeah, you'll be spared, be 977 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,280 spared that fair enough. But now I'd love to come on and 978 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,560 talk about, I don't know what. What would I come on and talk 979 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,120 about what? What aspect of the Blackadder 980 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,440 universe could I talk about? That's, that's the beauty of 981 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,400 doing a Blackadder podcast. The universe is, is there's so 982 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,880 much, so much stuff there. There's, there's really, you 983 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,920 know, there's no danger of that running out anytime soon. 984 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,840 No, OK. So guys, as as we said at the 985 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,560 top of the show, the podcast, Ian's podcast is Lord of That is 986 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,440 Black, which is a great title as well. 987 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:27,240 Brilliant title and it's available in all the usual 988 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:28,680 places. I guess. 989 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,480 Any plans for any other podcasts? 990 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,040 Well, we are going to do a couple of a couple of off topic 991 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,560 episodes where, for example, that I introduced Michael to a 992 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,080 sitcom he's never seen before. I'm not going to say what it is 993 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,560 now. And Michael has introduced me to 994 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,320 a sitcom that I'd never seen before. 995 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,960 And and so we're going to be doing sort of bonus episode for 996 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,480 just when, you know, if life gets in the way. 997 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:01,560 And, and we weren't able to manage having an episode every 998 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,400 two weeks, which hasn't been so difficult so far, But I was in 999 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,520 holiday. So we then then we released the 1000 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,640 bonus episode and that might be something to release over 1001 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,040 Christmas when we take a bit of a break. 1002 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,240 OK, OK. And and you're not going to tell 1003 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,760 me the names of these sitcoms, of course, But because he's 1004 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,520 Australian, Mike, isn't he? So is his sitcom from Australia. 1005 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:23,720 No, it's not. It's not. 1006 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:24,880 No, no, no. OK all. 1007 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,080 Right. No. 1008 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,560 Intriguing. But if I were to tell you that 1009 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,360 that mice coming from Ireland, you would probably guess what it 1010 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,600 is. Oh yes? 1011 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,760 Well, oh, you're telling me he's never seen that? 1012 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:40,840 He's never seen that, no. Oh my God, Does it travel? 1013 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,440 Has it travelled Down Under? Really. 1014 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,080 I don't, I don't know. Well, apparently not, because he 1015 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,520 he he was trying to find it on DVD and he had to import it and 1016 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,160 then it wouldn't work on his DVD player. 1017 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,280 That's crazy. Yes, yes. 1018 00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:01,400 Oh, before we before we totally wrap up, can I just be because 1019 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,760 it's my show, so I can, I just want to promote. 1020 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,760 I just want to promote last week. 1021 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,440 The latest episode, this month's The month of October's edition 1022 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:17,080 of Goon Pod Film Club dropped and this month it is Carry On 1023 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,920 Screaming You a Carry On Film Fanny and. 1024 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,360 No, no. Stuff like Carry On and Benny 1025 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,120 Hill and all that. That was never allowed in our 1026 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,240 house. Like it was a bit sinful. 1027 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,480 It's nutty. Yeah, it's nutty. 1028 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,960 OK, I don't. I don't really get the sense 1029 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,920 that I've actually missed anything to be honest. 1030 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,120 Carry on screaming is is is one of the better ones for sure. 1031 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,680 And myself and Andrew and Lisa from around the Archives 1032 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:52,400 podcast, we spent 90 minutes or so talking about the making of 1033 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,080 the background to it, the stars, the jokes, the the everything, 1034 01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:01,080 everything and everything. And, and as they are TV archive 1035 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,480 nuts, there was lots of references to the likes of 1036 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,240 Doctor Who. There's a danger that, you know, 1037 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,040 if you start talking about Doctor Who in a podcast, I can 1038 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,840 just take off and just just sort of envelope the whole 1039 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,120 conversation. So I tried to keep it at a 1040 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,680 minimum. But also Z Cars and Steptoe and 1041 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,440 Son and loads of loads of sort of telly references that were 1042 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,960 relevant to care on Screaming as well as of course, The Addams 1043 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:30,840 Family and The Munsters, both of which to a certain degree 1044 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,520 inspired certain scenes in Carol screaming. 1045 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,720 If you want to check that out, it's go over to patreon.com/goon 1046 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,800 Pod and you can, there's a free trial if you want to listen to 1047 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,200 that and see if you like it and want to sign up for the rest. 1048 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,360 Other than that, Ian, I think, I think we're done. 1049 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:49,240 I. Think we're done? 1050 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:50,520 Yes. Lovely. 1051 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,960 Thank you so much for joining me, and I look forward to being 1052 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,080 a guest on your podcast in the coming months or years. 1053 01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:58,880 Yes. Well, thank you for having me 1054 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,760 and thank you for listening. And yeah, we'd love to have you 1055 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,960 on in about in a couple of months time. 1056 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:05,520 Brilliant. Thanks, Ian. 1057 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:06,560 OK. Thanks, Tyler. 1058 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:06,920 Bye bye.