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Who is that? 
The ha who is it? 

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Who is it out of that? 
Only a lunatic would be out on 

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such a storm. 
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I rambled to gain pot this week,
I'm joined by Willie McDade and 

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at this rate, if my guests keep 
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this time next year, I'll be 
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I just obviously no money was 
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particular gunshot but before we
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interviewed dirt makes it was 
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got lots of what we both got. 
Lots and lots of lovely messages

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on Twitter and on Facebook. 
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one in particular just because 
it just its messages like this 

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if it's support like this that 
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So worthwhile it's actually from
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account now I think I'm assuming
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known as Jeffers and Jeffers is 
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Filthy Rich and can flap podcast
podcast. 

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Oh, cat flap. 
Oh, so check that out. 

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But yeah, so he sent this lovely
message on Twitter. 

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The Goon pods are consistently 
great, but this chat with Dirk, 

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maggs is genuinely. 
One of the most enjoyable 

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podcast interviews I've ever 
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over 1,000 by now. 
Meaning informative heartwarming

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funny, bloody hell. 
Take a Bow while I am on. 

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I'm recording this from the 
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So thank you for that. 
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sent us a lovely messages of 
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others. 
So yes, many more to come. 

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Anyway, let's get into the 
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I hope you enjoy it. 
What's the youngest person you 

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had on this podcast? 
Okay. 35. 

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Okay. 
I am officially the youngest 

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Who's been on this podcast, I am

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While say Okay. 

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First question obviously. 
So you've joined me today to 

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talk about a particular goon 
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So how did you come to discover 
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of old media anywhere. 
Like, shown various like old 

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sitcoms. 
As often I'm wearing a lot of on

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how to share right now, I am a 
bit of a comedian But the gun 

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show happened because weirdly my
mum's car had a cassette tape 

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player in it. 
It was, you know, and 

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occasionally, we just go through
some charity shops. 

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And like to let you know when I 
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just fine. 
And while she was, like, faroese

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to, and from school, just find 
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drive up. 
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found it or whether I can't 
remember anyone. 

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It somehow ended up in the car, 
this the to To the set of like 

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the double episode sets. 
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that he's fallen in the water. 
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one and string of robberies was 
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I listen to okay. 
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got you know good really love 
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years kind of discover The 
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radio series fell in love with 
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Massively. 
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entire reason we had that mags 
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that's a radio series is kind of
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as a career because it was like,
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then the books. 
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to the green chair for a while. 
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listening looking for podcast 
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know, he's working from home 
self-employed and then I just 

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again and so being re catching 
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covered and I you know like once
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string of robberies with the 
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of timeline because sure yes I'm
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I haven't watched all of their 
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If I Watch them all. 

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Now, listen to the wall. 
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anything new, which is problem 
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that there is a finite amount. 
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time with them when you reach 
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media, that I don't think I 
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Listen to it all in my life, the
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the service and reintroduce, you
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listen to it in a while and 
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this because I was like, 13 14 
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their stuff. 
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Shake tape in your mom's car 
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the goons but and you ever had 
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allergen or salads or seek a 
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not been T. 
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bed team. 
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Any do any exist? 
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were before. 
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think I saw him first when I 
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again, he was just like a person
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think. 
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know who he was, and I obviously
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that way that all kids are 
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cartoon. 
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go, why is this man Spike? 
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Life of Brian or he just Ends up
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And my mom was like that Spike 
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I don't know who that is. 
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school. 
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But again that really they and 
Harry cecum. 

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I'm really only person who has 
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talking about it and what 
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you know yesterday Mr. Bumble. 
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internationally. 
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international profile. 
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that huge International 
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popular to this day. 
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Africa, he kind of He didn't 
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in that episode of The Muppet 
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UK. 
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I wish I wish heresy could be on
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It would have been great. 

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He would have thought he would 
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they had Bruce Forsyth on. 
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great just blowing raspberries 
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loved it. 
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that in the alternative 
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zombie because just by virtue 
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big star at the time, late 70s, 
Milligan Milligan. 

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three of them would be sadly, no
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Yeah, that was, before I even 
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ask new guests. 
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know you don't, you don't listen
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numbers or do you. 
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depends when I first listened to
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and listen to them because 
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quite. 
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they're a bit some but I'm 
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listening casually and it as an 
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not particularly fast about that
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over mmm but it depends on the 
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Just enjoy enjoy music but no, I
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over? 
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about the string robberies 
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first one. 
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things I was thinking, when I 
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favorites. 
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I really like well. 
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Yes, that's the debut of the 
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which yeah, but I also love 
being very bad, putting hurler. 

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Yeah, obviously, that's the one 
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Like, try this one. 
Yes, it just has that element to

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it, but it's like, you don't. 
It's not like Stringer always is

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a little bit more like under 
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It's like I suppose it's all 
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one. 
But yeah, I mean it's got its 

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got that sequence and we'll come
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about the sequence, where, see 
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policeman, looking at the 
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middle. 
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bits of and that is a nice 
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can remember and apologies to 
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now somebody But a former guest 
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know, that sequence could 
actually rival the dreaded, what

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time is it are called sequence 
that I find. 

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So tiresome, that's very 
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A memory. 
I was in secondary school around

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the same time I discovered the 
Goon show and for some reason, I

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think it was discussing some 
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Something they might English you
to play, what times Echoes like 

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the animated six segments, with 
the bizarre we go. 

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Goldberg machine that they did. 
This animated thing, I'm not 

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sure where it's from its from 
the heroes of Comedy documentary

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from the late 90s. 
Really like the animation? 

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There's those like that's how I 
picture I can remove a whole. 

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Yes I like that and all the rest
of that you could tell the rest 

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of class and going hell is this.
Because obviously you know it 

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requires you come, it's funny. 
But also you kind of the 

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reaction of the audience you 
kind of need to know who the 

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characters are before. 
Why that overreacting to a 

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little boy saying what time is 
it goes because you know but 

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then I was sat in the front you 
know us outside the classroom 

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doing? 
Oh my God I know exactly what 

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this is anyway. 
Yeah no you were right it must 

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be incomprehensible not 
completely incomprehensible if 

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you know it's funny but like the
openings a bit like why is the 

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audience applauding? 
Yes. 

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Yes indeed, what fresh hell is 
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So Okay, so the string robberies
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I it's really good regularly, 

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it's an interesting one to talk 
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background to it and and what 
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So it's from its from series 8, 
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series 8 episodes, like to think
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Never Was. 
That's anyone at series. 8, is 

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generally considered to be one 
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weakest series that exists if 
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solid gold episodes in it, but 
it went through producers and it

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chopped and change. 
Could you producers which I'll 

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come to in a minute. 
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recording an episode an old 
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Vintage goons series which I 
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bizarre title, some in the 50s 
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when, yes, a couple of years 
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say, things is vintage now, they
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broadcast in the UK. 
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overseas stations, right? 
Overseas sales. 

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However, a bunch of them were 
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the beginning of season of 
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think the latest one late 80s, 
early 90s, I think, oh wow, the 

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mustard and Cress shortage was 
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robberies. 
Oh, was it? 

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that upset as well. 
My favorite, my favorite jacket 

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is you know, the virus. 
Hey I say, do you want to pass 

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such as row? 
No. 

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Well, stop banging on the cancer
that if you want a sausage roll,

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stop and get gas. 
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actually broadcast in the UK for
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I want to say 94 because I 
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details to hand at the moment 
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because of the fact that you No 
Spike wasn't really in a 

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sort of few of Series 6 series, 
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really got on with and really 
respected essentially. 

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Okay? 
That was Ill. 

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Basically, he wasn't, he wasn't.
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producing at that time. 
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But he'd always been packed with
the padded always been a 

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champion of the Goon show and 
he'd helped him really been 

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instrumental in helping to get 
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the first place and and yeah, 
Grease, the wheels of the BBC. 

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Hmm. 
So for series 8, they had Roy 

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spear as producer for a while 
and then he he became ill Roy, 

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spear, quite severely. 
He was hospitalized Royce beer. 

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These days is probably chiefly 
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anecdote that Peter Sellers told
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Peter Sellers famously got his 
first job of the BBC by phone. 

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Call wasn't it? 
Yeah, by ringing Roy spear, who 

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was a radio producer? 
That was him. 

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Oh God, yes. 
So that was back in. 

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And 47 48. 
So so yes. 

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Oh Roy spear. 
You know, he produced a few of 

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the series 8 shows and then 
Charles Chilton. 

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But there was a lot of chopping 
and changing when Riley was 

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unable to do anymore. 
They bought the BBC appointed, a

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producer called Tom Ronald. 
Yes, the guy, I heard his name 

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for me in the credits, just 
listening to it recently going, 

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that's a new one look here. 
To two or three at the most. 

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And he, he was quite hostile to 
the gun show. 

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Yeah, he didn't like the games 
at all. 

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Okay. 
And I think that kind of comes 

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across. 
Now, if you listen to this 

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episode of the string robberies,
you know, I'd heard the 

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transcription Services edited 
version for the longest time, 

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that was the one that I had and 
and there's some to my ear. 

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This very clear edit points. 
Oh, very much. 

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Is there, is there only one kind
of? 

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There are various audio versions
of various episodes. 

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Is there only one for this one? 
Or is there a couple? 

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There's the, the version that 
was restored which was the 

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original broadcast version for a
pitch, which I have listened to 

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now. 
Okay. 

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And there was the edited version
or versions which went out 

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mostly to overseas radio 
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the 60s. 
And Brian so on. 

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So I was that. 
So I'm used to these edited 

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versions and the yeah. 
As I listened to them through 

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BBC sounds and I don't know. 
What do they use? 

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I'm not sure. 
I haven't listened to the BBC 

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sounds version but I'm assuming 
it's probably the the edited 

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version but there's as I said 
there's some there's some very 

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clear and it points that you can
hear very much. 

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So yeah. 
And I'm thinking I'm and I was 

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thinking, you know, I've got the
broadcast, I've got the restored

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version, that is on the Goon 
show compendium, which was 

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Restored by Ted Kendall and and 
I was thinking, okay? 

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So this is going to be great 
because there's so, there's 

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those clear edit points that I'm
so used to, I'm sure that, you 

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know, the bits that were cut 
out, will be put back in and I'm

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listening to this restored 
version and know most of the 

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edit points are still there. 
It's still sounds. 

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It still sounds these very 
clunky edits you know. 

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Yeah I could think of to 
particular ones. 

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Yeah. 
Well I'm very Me, what he says, 

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we need to find two pieces of 
string, you know, stand on your 

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head. 
That just before that there's a 

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big. 
Yeah, Gap. 

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And then there's a bit where 
they're talking with me and 

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million Henry and then suddenly 
minion had me run away. 

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That's right. 
They go off in the in the house,

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don't they the house? 
Yes. 

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And it seems to be no reason for
it more so than normal. 

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Will you get the feeling? 
So Tom Tom Ronald is obviously 

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put these shows together and in 
fact, Before I go into that, 

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let's just give a little bit of 
background string robberies 

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series AIDS. 
As I say episode 16 broadcast 

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13th of January, 1958 and Spike 
has spiked his soul scriptwriter

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on this and he submitted the 
script a couple of days before 

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he was due to be recorded and on
the script that he submitted 

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someone has written, really? 
This is too much despite think 

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we could possibly pass, this has
not the time arrived for 

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straight. 
Talk, okay. 

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Now we're not sure. 
It's not clear who wrote that 

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but presumably, it was the 
producer, Tom Ronald. 

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I should be. 
Like, the, the tag life is going

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by really, this is too much. 
Yes. 

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Yep. 
By all accounts, when they came 

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to record the show. 
There were lots of, Tom 

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Ronald's, insist on lots of 
alterations, or cuts to the 

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script. 
And if you actually, if you read

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the original, The original 
script. 

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As Spike submitted it, there are
still out. 

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Yeah, there's a few, there's 
quite a few, what I would call 

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borderline, slutty or innuendo 
Laden gags. 

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Okay, possibly possibly, not 
more than in any other goon show

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of the period. 
There were a few lines that 

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possibly, you know, the blue 
pencil rightfully would have 

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gone through terms of getting 
rid of that from the script. 

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But It would appear that he just
ripped out so much from the 

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script and made a lot of edits 
from what was actually recorded 

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and and Spike Milligan when he 
actually heard the show 

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broadcast. 
So it was recorded on the 

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Sunday, the order being the 12th
and it was broadcast the 

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following evening and Spike 
heard at the fucking on that, 

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you know, on the Monday night he
was he was outraged. 

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Because he and he wrote to the 
BBC wrote to Jim Davidson, not, 

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not that one. 
Jim Davidson who was a guy, who 

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was the assistant head of, 
right, entertainment? 

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Yeah, for radio and, and spite 
wrote this letter saying, 

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despite an agreement on what was
to be in and what was to be out.

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When the Goon show came out, 
nearly all of what was agreed to

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leave in, had been cut out. 
Now, of course they had and he 

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and he specifically mentioned 
the gag about when William, I 

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tell seeking that there's a 
house outside to see him as 

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recorded Siegen, it says house, 
male or female to which William 

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replies. 
I couldn't tell what had the 

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blinds drawn mate. 
Okay, so they recorded that and 

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it would seem that spike. 
It argued with Tom Ronald, that 

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it should be that line should be
left in. 

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It should be kept and presumably
Tom agreed. 

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But then obviously cut it out 
and And yeah, so it was not a 

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happy episode and the actual 
transcription Services disks 

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that were sent out to radio 
stations all over the world. 

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Each show would have its own 
little synopsis. 

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Okay and I'll just read this one
and I'll explain why. 

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So it says, the string of 
robberies only a detective of 

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the highest caliber could deduce
that a piece of string holding 

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up Moriarty's. 
Sock is the missing link in the 

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notoriously. 
During robberies, Nettie sigurd.

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The arch criminal investigator 
is assisted in his inquiries by 

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among others to new arrivals, 
from the Far East mr. 

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Banerjee and mr. 
Lau caca. 

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Now one of the reasons why they 
would have these synopses for 

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these, you know, for these discs
that they sent out was that I 

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mentioned are two characters. 
Mr. Banerjee and mr. 

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Lau caca. 
Are you aware of who they are? 

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Oh yeah. 
Are they? 

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With a new for this episode, not
quite they they appeared or very

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versions of them appeared in the
episode. 

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The Red Fort. 
All right slightly different 

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names. 
But this was the first episode 

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that they were actually 
identified as mr. 

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Banerjee and mr. 
Lau Kaka. 

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Okay. 
Yes, know, I know, I know, I 

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know. 
I know about them. 

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Yeah. 
And yeah, kind of have a yeah, 

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my kind of a love-hate kind of 
its poorly aged but You know, 

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it's like saying, oh no, you 
should cut them out, and baby 

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before ever consigned to his 
design, you know, you can listen

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to her and just go, okay. 
Yeah. 

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It is that it's, you know, Spike
was raised in India and it was 

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the 50s and exactly. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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And and they do have quite an 
extensive sequence in the string

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Library. 
Yeah, it's quite a good 

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sequence. 
Funny, a lot of their stuff. 

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Is funny. 
It's just the accents. 

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I think it's a fact that Indian 
the make it a problem, but if it

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was another character doing it, 
the guy can still land like a 

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lot of the other end of guns, 
I've heard. 

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At least they, they like this 
whole dark room. 

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Sequence is really good. 
Yeah. 

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And there's that fluff, isn't 
there? 

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Yeah. 
It's quite loves Love's Love's. 

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Look like there's a couple of 
there's a couple of flips in 

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this episode which oh yeah. 
And the thing is okay. 

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We've seen with the Simpsons 
that arpu up until what five 

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years ago. 
I was portrayed by. 

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Okay, little Latino American 
Latino actor. 

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Yeah. 
But, you know, ostensibly though

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he was not being, he was an 
Indian character, not being 

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voiced by an Indian. 
Yeah, they took Indian. 

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So you know, it's only recently 
really that? 

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Oh yeah, it's been, it's been 
quite a shock. 

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No one has been colored with if 
you know like backlash from 

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older Generations because it's 
been relatively recently that 

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we've kind of gone. 
All right? 

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Yeah Lily. 
I don't like lame old who, you 

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know, likes of people certain 
generation from going old for 

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God's sake. 
Yeah, that is really very, very 

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recent. 
I can understand both sides in a

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way. 
Yes arguments, but I think it 

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just comes down to judgment just
comes down to Common Sense. 

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And I read that synopsis that 
I'm But I read it before. 

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So it clearly highlights two 
characters, the two Indian 

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characters in it and that was 
partly done, so that if there 

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were any radio stations bear in 
mind, this was going all over 

451
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:52,200
the world, any radio stations 
who felt that Their audience 

452
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,600
might be a little bit hostile or
a bit. 

453
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,400
Sensitive about hearing those 
characters. 

454
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,200
They wouldn't necessarily need 
to play that episode because 

455
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,000
those characters for. 
Yeah, you know, and that was 

456
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,100
very Progressive thinking, oh my
God, like I'm constantly Just 

457
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:10,000
like amazed because I was out 
like, I'll make yourself asleep.

458
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,100
You know, when you watch old 
movies, you kind of have to 

459
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:15,400
take, you know, the badly age 
and just kind of just accept it.

460
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,100
But then you study research and 
you realize that, yeah, this is 

461
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:23,200
the 50s and they had a, you 
know, the one black cast member 

462
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,800
read those particular Carriage 
of rods and just get a white guy

463
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,800
to do ya like an offensive 
accent and also the conductor 

464
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:36,300
was a closeted trans woman like,
you know, you read and go all 

465
00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:37,700
out. 
Like yep. 

466
00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:41,200
Oh wow. 
The you know, like like he's 

467
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,100
badly age, but not as badly as 
it could be like in terms of 

468
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:46,700
certain things and other times 
it is aged amazing. 

469
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:49,100
Yeah. 
That's first very, very, that's 

470
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:51,300
a very good point. 
Yes. 

471
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:53,200
And the string of these, by the 
way, one thing I meant to 

472
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,200
mention was that the script was 
in published in the book of the 

473
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:03,800
goons from 1974. 
I don't tend to necessarily when

474
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,800
we're talking about going to 
episode today, tend to go 

475
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,600
through them seem See now don't 
need to do that here 

476
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,500
necessarily, but I think for 
because of this because of the 

477
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:14,400
nature of what happened with 
this show, in terms of the cuts 

478
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,500
and whatnot, I just think it'd 
be interesting just to go 

479
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:20,900
through it and see what? 
Yeah, that's okay. 

480
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:27,100
We start with Peter Sellers 
doing an Australian accent which

481
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,900
I don't know why. 
Yeah, it's very bizarre. 

482
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,900
Have those like there's no name 
for that character. 

483
00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:37,300
It's not like Sony. 
This turns up occasionally He 

484
00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:40,300
just decided to do it. 
Yeah, well I know that 

485
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:46,100
Milligan's family or parents and
his brother I think at the same 

486
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:51,300
time that we went to Australia 
immigrated around this time, I'd

487
00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:55,700
like to say I'll be 50 late 
fifties 57 something like that. 

488
00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:59,700
I'm not sure at that point is 
spiking actually being out there

489
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,800
to visit. 
I know he certainly went over 

490
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,700
there after series 8, but we 
have the We have the we have the

491
00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:10,500
sequence where the sellers as 
great. 

492
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:14,500
Pipe thin says the string 
robbery started very simply with

493
00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:18,100
a man saying, right? 
And then it in the script. 

494
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:20,900
It's Moriarty who says my socks,
keep coming down, but it's not 

495
00:30:20,900 --> 00:30:22,000
my reality. 
Is it? 

496
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,000
No, it's actual. 
No reason. 

497
00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:28,400
You just turns up and then just 
goes away. 

498
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,300
And the thing is right, it is 
meant to be my reality. 

499
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:35,700
Yeah. 
It doesn't make any sense for 

500
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:39,400
the seat. 
Now this is where we assume that

501
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,500
they must have recorded the next
the next bit because there's 

502
00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:45,300
this there's this little 
dialogue between grip pipe and 

503
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:48,800
Moriarty. 
Where grip pipe says gags. 

504
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,100
You've got hoar frost on the 
ankle and and Moriarty's is it 

505
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:55,700
dangerous Grapevine says if it 
kills you. 

506
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:58,200
Yes blah blah blah. 
Okay I mean the script is out 

507
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,500
there if you wanted to look it 
up But Tom Ronald has just cut 

508
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:05,100
all that bit out. 
So we get the bit with Echols 

509
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:07,900
saying my substitute for us. 
Maybe it was the wolf. 

510
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:10,200
The word whore, maybe. 
Yeah. 

511
00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:14,400
Sounds like the BBC in the 50. 
So we get. 

512
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,200
We get Echo saying my socks, 
keep coming down. 

513
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,400
Next thing, we hear very clunky,
jump, to grip pipe saying we 

514
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,500
must try and obtain a certain 
amount of cheap string the 

515
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:27,700
string of robberies started. 
Very simply with a man saying 

516
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:33,700
why shock keep coming back home.
Trying to obtain a certain 

517
00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:35,400
amount of cheap string. 
What do I do? 

518
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:40,000
Till then I'm being so, yeah, I 
just don't really know why that 

519
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,100
bit was cut for kickoff strange.
Here's the thing as well, 

520
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,900
there's no consistency because 
we then gets siguen introduced 

521
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,500
and he's at Edinburgh station 
and there's a loud, fast jet of 

522
00:31:56,500 --> 00:31:59,900
steam and you get flour. 
Do screeching that the Your 

523
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:02,300
lower constrains league of steam
and people are wearing Kilts 

524
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:05,000
which to me is more suggestive. 
Oh my God. 

525
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,900
Yeah. 
Isn't that what it's not really 

526
00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:13,600
suggesting that it's like more 
so than what they just cut the 

527
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,900
last gun pod where we've 
discussed an actual goon show, 

528
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:24,200
episode was Wings over dagenham 
and that's featured quite 

529
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,700
prominently. 
The trombonist George Chisholm 

530
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:31,900
in a guest role. 
As right, I haven't listened to 

531
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,000
either that episode all your 
episode on. 

532
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,000
I don't know. 
Any, I was when I heard a green 

533
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,400
side doing the outro to the sure
they called it announcer, but 

534
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,300
his butt and he said George is. 
Now that I've done a who that 

535
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:50,500
is, I'm trying to think if I 
heard any voices random quite 

536
00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:53,000
hard at anything different. 
Like, you know, like I forgot 

537
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,900
the name. 
Charlotte Charlotte Mitchell, 

538
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,200
Charlotte Mitchell. 
Why ever she was on the show? 

539
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,500
Since I've been random room is, 
anyway, I was trying to think 

540
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:04,500
they already guessed. 
Was that? 

541
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:06,400
I didn't recognize. 
I couldn't think of anyone. 

542
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,800
I don't know who he was so 
George. 

543
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,400
Chisholm was in the band was 
part of the orchestra and he 

544
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,200
played, right? 
He's very, very celebrated 

545
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,100
trombonist, okay? 
But he was also a good friend of

546
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:22,000
the cast good friend of the 
goons, and he would occasionally

547
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,900
be drafted in to do the odd line
or whatever. 

548
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,000
And he's very Scottish, okay? 
And he would play on the 

549
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:32,400
Scottish nurse. 
Yeah, and it Wings Over Dagon 

550
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,800
and he played a character called
mr. 

551
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,600
Chisholm. 
Who was an assistant to see him?

552
00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:39,700
Okay. 
Now he turns up in this episode 

553
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,000
as sergeant. 
I think he's Sergeant mixtures. 

554
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,900
Mmm. 
And he's the, he's the one who 

555
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:48,000
says you? 
See him a ventriloquist. 

556
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,100
I throw my voice sometimes from 
Annie, don't you miss that one? 

557
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:55,900
Yeah, I didn't. 
Honestly I could not tell if 

558
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:59,300
that was spiked or maybe Peter 
but didn't really sound like you

559
00:33:59,308 --> 00:34:01,300
deserve. 
The, I thought it's a bit too. 

560
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,100
Not like, to be spanked. 
I didn't really think about it. 

561
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:06,600
That makes a lot of sense that, 
that Sinister different person. 

562
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,300
Yeah. 
Was, it will sellars as a seller

563
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:13,199
pays a Scotsman very shortly. 
And yeah, you have this 

564
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:17,100
three-way conversation between 
mixtures. 

565
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:23,699
Mm, see goon and the Scottish 
inspector that some plays, and 

566
00:34:23,699 --> 00:34:25,900
we and then we get to the 
sequence which touched on 

567
00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:30,800
before, where they talking 
about, Piece of string on the 

568
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,900
table and the bits that are 
missing is quite convoluted. 

569
00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:36,900
I'll put the clip in here at 
Fisher string on the table. 

570
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:38,500
Yes. 
What's that space in the middle 

571
00:34:38,500 --> 00:34:40,000
touch? 
The piece that's missing. 

572
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:43,900
So that's what a piece of 
missing string. 

573
00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:50,300
Looks like a was it gone. 
Can't, you see, you boss got his

574
00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:53,900
fool. 
It's all a practical joke. 

575
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,600
Someone's cut that string in the
center. 

576
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,800
Pull the two pieces in opposite 
directions. 

577
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,800
Giving the impression that the 
Peace of being removed from the 

578
00:35:02,808 --> 00:35:05,800
middle, Harry Gringo has, he's 
right? 

579
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,800
Oh, for sure, if you put these 
two pieces together, the Gap 

580
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,300
disappears. 
Hi. 

581
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,300
But did you notice when you did 
that the two votes, Hayden's got

582
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:26,100
your card card chisholm's right 
now, I see what happened, what 

583
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:31,200
killing the criminal cut a piece
of each him and then cut across 

584
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,800
the middle and pull them apart, 
making the string. 

585
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,700
Look, the original length idea. 
Let's mix it up. 

586
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:40,600
Baffling case. 
Hey yes, instead of one piece we

587
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,000
looking for two separate. 
Jeans. 

588
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:48,900
It's a good job. 
I can count. 

589
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:56,300
We must start investigation to 1
then we get to Henry mini and 

590
00:35:57,300 --> 00:36:00,900
there's a lot of looking at what
was in the script and what we 

591
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,200
actually was recorded or at 
least went out. 

592
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,200
There's a lot of ad-libbing 
because I'm sure of course this 

593
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:13,400
does. 
The line that Tom Ronald cut 

594
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:18,500
where well there's the bit where
Henry we first hear Henry, he's 

595
00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:23,900
calling for men is calling many.
You hear many sort of off say 

596
00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:27,000
you calling me Henry and Henry 
says, yes, hurry up. 

597
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000
I'm next now. 
Did you understand what that 

598
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,500
meant? 
I could mean various. 

599
00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:38,100
I don't know for sure I'm not 
sure. 

600
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:42,700
It wasn't a attempt to do with 
The bathroom was it was like 

601
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,000
yeah he's waiting to use the 
toilet. 

602
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:48,800
Yeah, so I thought so but I was 
thinking or it could be I don't 

603
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,100
know. 
Yeah, well she's a bit. 

604
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:56,100
So he says, hurry up, I'm next. 
And then in the script Minnie 

605
00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:58,100
says I haven't finished yet. 
Okay? 

606
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:01,400
And Tom old, Tom obviously, 
don't know, that's two. 

607
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:04,000
That's far to suggest a fun 
happy for using the toilet 

608
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,100
already. 
Cut that out, but and then they 

609
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:09,900
have a whole sort of routine, 
talking about cigarettes and 

610
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,700
Herbal tobacco, which kind of 
has its the way she was 

611
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,400
Milligan, was sort of inhaling. 
This cigarette is it was almost 

612
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,000
like, you know, he was rolling a
reefer or something. 

613
00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:24,700
It means got a new frock, which 
turns out to be a sec dress and 

614
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:26,000
she said she got off the call 
man. 

615
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,100
And in the script Henry says you
mean he's walking around naked 

616
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:34,000
and Minnie says yes, that's why 
his prices are so high. 

617
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,900
That got cat. 
I mean, the joke is funny. 

618
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:42,000
Even without that, just makes it
funny. 

619
00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:43,200
Yes. 
Yeah. 

620
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:48,400
It says it from like a bit of a 
cheek come to like a more 

621
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,500
expanded. 
Yeah. 

622
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:54,300
And then we get the bit that I 
think is fantastic that a great 

623
00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:57,700
bit of thinking on his feet by 
Milligan. 

624
00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:03,100
When running, many are just add 
living, basically they just 

625
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:05,700
wittering on to each other and 
then crank and then cram 

626
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:12,000
remembers of sellers members the
script The fire station to the 

627
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:18,400
police station. 
Makes the same Henry because the

628
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:30,800
police stations on fire. 
I remember that hearing that 

629
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,800
like for the first time in the 
car with my mom and going. 

630
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,300
Oh, right and going, oh wow, 
they messed up. 

631
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:41,000
Like, I don't know. 
I think I'm sure that it's just 

632
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:45,400
I mean it's the endless novelty 
of hearing a mistake. 

633
00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:49,100
It's like you know, just so so 
fun that always here and that I 

634
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:52,900
suppose also maybe modern radios
more slick and they wouldn't, 

635
00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:56,500
you know, but like you just 
hearing Just hearing, obviously 

636
00:38:56,500 --> 00:39:02,300
Peter Sellers go. 
Oh, I guarantee that would have 

637
00:39:02,308 --> 00:39:03,400
been. 
That would have been cut. 

638
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,700
If Milligan hadn't come back 
with such a strong. 

639
00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:06,700
Oh my God. 
Yeah. 

640
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,600
Apply such a good such a good 
comeback and be audience, 

641
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,700
doesn't just go away, I half 
expected because I did. 

642
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,700
I've got no copy of the original
script and I half expected when 

643
00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:24,300
I checked the script to see that
that was actually scripted. 

644
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,200
Yeah, expect to that cause you 
never know. 

645
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,100
I used to like I still do. 
I mean I just wonder if topic 

646
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:36,400
slightly big fan of the TV show?
Bottom Rik, Mayall. 

647
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,500
Oh yes, I did mention. 
And yeah, I used to love the 

648
00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:42,800
young ones as well. 
Spy will be rolling as Grodin 

649
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,100
white Rik Mayall, but no but 
yeah, it's a shame. 

650
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,800
I know, I know but now I just 
need to borrow used to watch The

651
00:39:50,808 --> 00:39:53,400
Young Ones on repeat, I don't 
know why, but yeah, bottom as 

652
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,600
well, so good. 
Oh yeah, and I back in the day 

653
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,100
when it was videos, I've used to
get the videos of the live stage

654
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:02,200
shows that they did. 
And now, yeah, it is. 

655
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:05,800
And I used to think they were 
under still do this till I mean 

656
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,000
there, you wouldn't watch them 
with you grin. 

657
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,600
But you know, they are 
rollicking good fun and, you 

658
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,500
know, full of the filthy and 
funny and all the rest of it and

659
00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:23,400
just yeah, totally absurd but 
very often They'd be at least 

660
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,100
one in each stage show. 
They'd be at least one sequence 

661
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:31,400
where Rick would would flood a 
line. 

662
00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:35,100
So they would come out of 
character as rich in Eddie and 

663
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:39,600
they would be Rick and Aid. 
Yeah, talking at each other and 

664
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,000
the audit absolutely love it 
because our look you know you 

665
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,900
know Rick's forgot the line and 
AIDS pulled him up on. 

666
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:49,700
I wasn't that funny and then 
you'd find out hearing sort of 

667
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:51,800
people that had seen them in 
different scenes. 

668
00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:55,200
A show in and yeah, town that 
they did that every single 

669
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,900
performer. 
Oh yeah, I remember seeing one 

670
00:40:56,900 --> 00:41:00,200
particular, I remember this 
because it was my hometown that 

671
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:06,000
system aide says, as a, however,
it was himself or as Eddie with 

672
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,200
her case, it's like I was born 
in Southampton, I thought 

673
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:16,600
because I don't buy that one of 
those lives and so, yes, we have

674
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,800
that that yeah, great recovery 
by Milligan and then we go into 

675
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,600
the house that I In the house, 
them driving the house to see 

676
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,600
going. 
And that's a such as good, 

677
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,500
mental image. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

678
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,400
Totally unnecessary. 
But, you know, yeah, but it's 

679
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,000
great. 
They also introduced for the 

680
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,800
first time. 
The kind of, I don't know what 

681
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,100
you'd call. 
It's not really a catch phrase 

682
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:46,200
but repeated sequence, where 
minion Henry would go. 

683
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,600
Morning morning. 
So I know I know. 

684
00:41:52,600 --> 00:42:15,800
That's right. 
In the 2010s, you know, yourself

685
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:21,800
occasionally I would use the odd
gag. 

686
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,200
Again, show at school at barrel 
and I'm you know, I was at 

687
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,500
school in the 80s and 90s so it 
was a bit further back, but I 

688
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:30,900
would you there were certain 
lines. 

689
00:42:30,900 --> 00:42:33,100
I can't give you a specific 
example, but I would use certain

690
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:35,300
lines. 
My friends wouldn't know where 

691
00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:39,700
the hell, they know. 
It's not as you're using that. 

692
00:42:39,700 --> 00:42:42,900
They would think I was a comic 
genius, you know, and I wouldn't

693
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:45,700
attribute it to Milligan but 
yeah, no. 

694
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:48,600
It wasn't in the script for this
this whole morning morning 

695
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,400
sequence. 
It wasn't, it was in the script,

696
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,000
so they just improvise that Was 
that was that again? 

697
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,300
Was that the first? 
Yeah, I'm it being used. 

698
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,400
I'm sorry, I didn't realize, 
yeah, so I don't know why they 

699
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,500
must have just decided, you 
know, maybe during Del Dre's 

700
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:04,600
number, let's learn. 
Let's just, let's just do some 

701
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,300
improv. 
Well, maybe I'm wondering 

702
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:08,300
whether and this is just pure 
speculation. 

703
00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:10,300
I'm wondering up because you get
because obviously, you know, 

704
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:14,400
they would rehearse that have a 
read through in the afternoon 

705
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,800
and then they'd have rehearsal. 
And then I think that have 

706
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,200
another rehearsal with the with 
the, with the band. 

707
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:21,800
Thank ya. 
I'm just wondering. 

708
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:24,800
Gimli. 
Tom would be Tom, the producer 

709
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:30,800
would be there you know frowning
with his arms crossed, deeply 

710
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,400
deeply disapproving confident 
with the sort of thing. 

711
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,400
Yeah. 
That but I'm wondering whether 

712
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,500
you know, if he did, he'd 
already said spite, right. 

713
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:40,400
We're going to cut this bit out 
and cut that bit out and Spike 

714
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,100
may be compensated for those 
cuts by including these bits, 

715
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:48,100
these extended sort of morning, 
maybe. 

716
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:51,000
I don't know, could be, I mean, 
it's made of endless 

717
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,600
catchphrase. 
It's just something to say. 

718
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:57,900
Yeah, we have these this this 
bit with the, the quite clever 

719
00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:00,900
little sound gag about Henry 
with his fingers in his ears. 

720
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,000
Oh my love that. 
For some reason, I do not can't 

721
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,700
think of anywhere else where 
they kind of bets being because 

722
00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:08,800
it's something that you just do 
something special when you're a 

723
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,900
kid. 
You can't just test, you know 

724
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:14,000
you doing stuff like yeah. 
Just moving things out here is. 

725
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,600
You can just hearing this. 
Like yeah, yeah, yeah. 

726
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:22,700
But I could, you could picture I
The first time I've ever heard 

727
00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:26,500
it, I could picture, I could in 
my address, I had this mental 

728
00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:32,100
image of Henry crime or my the 
image, I have of what Henry 

729
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:34,300
crying looks like in my mind, 
which I don't think I could 

730
00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:37,800
actually describing words, I 
always find that like I have an 

731
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,000
image but I can't fully 
articulate. 

732
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,000
What it is. 
It's kind of like a vague 

733
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:49,500
approximation of a purse like a 
like a gas or something. 

734
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,700
Yes, for than actual We'd like, 
yeah, the only one I can picture

735
00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:58,100
is that is that particularly 
Illustrated version of Moriarty 

736
00:44:58,100 --> 00:45:00,300
that's like, has the big hat and
going Shadow. 

737
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,700
Yeah, that's the only what time,
I'm like a part of metals. 

738
00:45:04,700 --> 00:45:06,500
The illustration matches how I 
see them. 

739
00:45:06,500 --> 00:45:10,700
But anyway, yeah, I grip pipes 
in. 

740
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:15,100
I always assumed kind of looked 
more or less, like he looked in 

741
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,100
some of the script drawings that
they would do to ya, even the 

742
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:24,700
Telly Goons, Yeah, it's a kind 
of cheekbone kind of. 

743
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,600
Yeah I always imagined him in a 
three-piece suit and always 

744
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,700
relative is lightly tap it and 
covered in juice. 

745
00:45:31,700 --> 00:45:37,600
But yeah, talk tall and almost 
like Christopher Lee kind of. 

746
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,100
Yeah segen. 
I can see game looks more or 

747
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:43,900
less, you know. 
I just imagine them to look like

748
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:46,400
a variation of Harry seek Him 
always. 

749
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,900
So we had that sequence with 
the, with the the fingers, In 

750
00:45:51,900 --> 00:45:55,000
the years and then there's this.
There's like you said earlier, 

751
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:17,600
there's a very clear cut has 
been done. it will be so dear 

752
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,000
listeners. 
This disjointed conversation is 

753
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,100
being caused by mr. 
Krum, moving, his fingers in and

754
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:29,300
out of his ears, thereby causing
an intermittent break inside. 

755
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:38,100
But there is a bit that was in 
the script that I presume. 

756
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:40,700
They must have recorded and then
that's got chopped out. 

757
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,600
Where they talk about. 
They talk about a shape in 

758
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:51,300
henrique runs, trousers. 
Oh, dear, of course and, and 

759
00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:53,900
there's a reference to John 
Foster. 

760
00:46:53,900 --> 00:46:58,300
Dulles, who was a an American 
Senator? 

761
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,400
I think? 
Right? 

762
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,100
No idea. 
Yeah. 

763
00:47:01,100 --> 00:47:04,900
He was, he was, I think his 
brother was instrumental in 

764
00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:08,400
creating the CIA or maybe he 
was, I'm not quite sure of it. 

765
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:14,300
But anyway, that was cut out and
Then we get to rip up Moriarty 

766
00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:20,500
at the Cliffs of Dover and 
again, cut out from the 

767
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,800
recording. 
Was Moriarty saying grip pipe. 

768
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,300
They've spotted us grip. 
Pipe says it'll brush off okay 

769
00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:29,300
because obviously there's see 
girls. 

770
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,100
So oh, right? 
Yeah, so so Tom cut that out as 

771
00:47:34,100 --> 00:47:39,500
well. 
Yeah, so it's all these fun Tom,

772
00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:42,500
there's no finesse to the Cuts 
is there. 

773
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:44,600
No, it's increase. 
Really rough. 

774
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:46,400
Yes, and so we've got we got 
blood, not. 

775
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,000
Now, I'm not quite sure again. 
I think it's blood. 

776
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,600
No, it's just here really, 
because he's not been in the 

777
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,000
episode so far and they just 
feel they need to include him. 

778
00:47:55,700 --> 00:47:59,100
I don't know where he is like 
losing to be in a house. 

779
00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:01,200
No, he's just that. 
He's just there. 

780
00:48:01,300 --> 00:48:05,200
It's just, he's just appeared. 
Yeah, sure. 

781
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,900
I'm not sure what his role over.
He's he the Coast Guard being 

782
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:09,800
mention. 
I don't know. 

783
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,200
I really do. 
He's in the boat. 

784
00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:13,900
Later. 
He just turns up for just a fun 

785
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,700
fun. 
See ya. 

786
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:20,900
And again, this is totally 
unrelated to what we've heard 

787
00:48:20,900 --> 00:48:26,000
before, or what is Yet to Come. 
Really, but we have this, what 

788
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,700
must have taken ages for them to
record and rerecord, and sort of

789
00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:35,200
overlay and overdub. 
We've got Echols singing, a Good

790
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,800
King Wenceslas, and it is weird,
isn't it? 

791
00:48:38,900 --> 00:48:41,200
It's funny, but it's weird. 
It's funny. 

792
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:45,100
Also, I Like It Hot some of the 
backing track. 

793
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:47,000
He's actually singing it, 
rather. 

794
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,100
Well, yes, - I don't know, he 
just had like a little little 

795
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:55,700
little note at the end. 
Nice are also as I first ever. 

796
00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:59,800
Listen, what an entrance for for
both blood, milk and Echols. 

797
00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:01,500
You never seen you two ever 
heard. 

798
00:49:01,500 --> 00:49:04,900
You depart from like one line. 
Beginning it was it wasn't meant

799
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:07,900
to be Echoes, was it? 
No, at the beginning. 

800
00:49:08,300 --> 00:49:13,400
Yeah, there's the distended. 
The Amusing, interplay with 

801
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,100
blood, Mechanicals. 
Christmas is good on ya. 

802
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:19,300
If we go in a penny for the guy 
probably gets lost by bike 

803
00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:24,400
American and those International
listeners because, yeah, why 

804
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,200
some obscure thing see we had 
his a thing, right? 

805
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,500
It's a good opportunity for me 
to talk about myself, which I 

806
00:49:30,508 --> 00:49:31,800
never like to do. 
Okay. 

807
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,100
But I grew up in New Zealand as 
you said. 

808
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:39,300
Sure, you know, and we 
celebrated Guy Fawkes there. 

809
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,100
Oh yeah, we said When I was a 
kid, I don't know if they still 

810
00:49:43,100 --> 00:49:46,900
do, but, but all that all 
involved, it was really just an 

811
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:49,800
excuse to little fireworks. 
That was. 

812
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:50,600
Oh yeah. 
Always. 

813
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,000
We literally what we use it for 
setting things on fire. 

814
00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:58,800
Yeah, and I didn't you of the 
whole sort of penny for the guy 

815
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,700
and this sort of image of 
urchins pushing shopping trolley

816
00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:06,400
with a stuffed dummy. 
Yeah, I haven't seen one in 

817
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,200
years. 
I've already, I only ever knew 

818
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,100
that from Reading British comics
when I was a A kid like wasn't 

819
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:14,200
chips. 
I hope I have like it doesn't 

820
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,000
die out as a thing because it is
rather nice little tradition. 

821
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,200
He was building a scarecrow and 
like asking for a couple of 

822
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,900
tents to buy like some stuff 
from you know, child she opens 

823
00:50:24,900 --> 00:50:28,600
up into yes to make but I don't 
know. 

824
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,800
You know that kind of thing. 
Post pandemic killed I really 

825
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,400
carry money. 
Yeah and then we get so you know

826
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,100
we've got the pumpkin and Echo 
sequence and then we have 

827
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:42,200
railing tain's song and then and
then we get Seager in and And 

828
00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:44,300
grip, piping Moriarty, and all 
the rest of it. 

829
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:51,600
And then bluebottle turns out. 
Now I like the fact that so blue

830
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,100
bottle is stowaway and he's been
hiding in Murray at his 

831
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:59,700
trousers. 
I love the way he says, I'll 

832
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:03,000
come out and he lowers his, he 
reads his stage directions, as 

833
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,400
he always does. 
He says he lowers flapping 

834
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,200
around his trousers steps out. 
Waits for audience Applause, and

835
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,900
he gets Applause and then he 
says not enough. 

836
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:12,300
I say I'm glad he did. 
Don't get, I mean it was a bit 

837
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:14,600
of a gamble because he could 
have, you know, he could have 

838
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,700
got a huge Standing Ovation by 
the studio audience which case 

839
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:22,700
that would have that would have 
put paid to the gag that he's 

840
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:24,000
bought his own record of 
clapping. 

841
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,000
Okay. 
Here's a good opportunity to ask

842
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,000
because Blue Bottle is often the
character of the people site is 

843
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,800
their favorite. 
So who is your favorite 

844
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:36,600
character? 
I have a, I love them all in 

845
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:41,100
varying ways but I have to say 
blood knock, which is weird. 

846
00:51:41,300 --> 00:51:43,700
I know, I don't think, I'm not 
sure if you've had anyone say 

847
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:47,200
blood not yet. 
Yeah, a couple we have. 

848
00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:48,500
That's nice. 
I don't know. 

849
00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:50,600
I think even when I first 
listened to it, for ever knew 

850
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,300
who the characters really? 
Well, I just, I liked, I liked 

851
00:51:53,300 --> 00:51:56,100
his voice. 
I like I like the voice and the 

852
00:51:56,100 --> 00:52:00,900
funny sounds and I don't know 
his weird-ass shit. 

853
00:52:00,900 --> 00:52:04,200
I don't think that blood milk is
very like he's almost like a 

854
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,200
Groucho Marx kind of thing, he'd
like someone who is randomly 

855
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,900
he's like wondered in Katana 
hat. 

856
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,600
And people have just assumed 
he's in charge occasionally 10. 

857
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,700
Well, depending on what the role
is, he just kind of sat. 

858
00:52:16,700 --> 00:52:19,900
He's like he's just like, you 
know, like a guy, he just 

859
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:23,700
wandered into this into a into a
major General's office. 

860
00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:26,800
Put on put on the hat and souls 
walked in and gone. 

861
00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:29,400
You're in judgment. 
Am I okay. 

862
00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:35,400
Very tween being either a 
womanizer all obsessed with 

863
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:36,900
money. 
Depends on what the episode 

864
00:52:36,900 --> 00:52:39,400
calls for, but at least it is 
true. 

865
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,700
Love is money but Chancellor, 
and he's a scoundrel. 

866
00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:47,400
Oh yeah, we love them. 
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I 

867
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,600
love like, you know, I recover 
my reality, I love their whole, 

868
00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:53,300
I love the whole thing. 
I love occasion, Yuan group, 

869
00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:56,500
pipeline loses. 
His cool like, I'm in a, the 

870
00:52:56,500 --> 00:52:59,500
fireball, Milton Street, we're 
like at the very end he actively

871
00:52:59,500 --> 00:53:01,700
panics. 
It's just like it's rare to hear

872
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:04,400
him. 
Be flexible and I've just I 

873
00:53:04,408 --> 00:53:06,800
love. 
I just yeah, yeah, you hear 

874
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,900
that. 
At the end of the great bank 

875
00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:12,100
robbery when they yes, I'm just 
like The fire. 

876
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,400
Yes it's such a guy just I don't
know. 

877
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,700
I just love hearing characters 
occasion just break their role 

878
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,100
alike but I love ice. 
I love them all. 

879
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:24,300
Like there's only I can't think 
of many characters. 

880
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:29,200
I don't actively enjoy but I 
will always kind of smile when I

881
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,400
hear the blood milk theme, 
right. 

882
00:53:31,700 --> 00:53:33,400
I don't know why. 
I just like I just like, you 

883
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:38,200
know, I just like it just got 
like oh we're not we then want 

884
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,800
to get to the bed with so we get
mr. 

885
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,000
Banerjee. 
Slow cooker. 

886
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:48,200
Now in the the episode that I'm 
used to hearing the the show 

887
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,900
that would have been sent out, 
you know, the transcription 

888
00:53:50,900 --> 00:53:54,700
Services version. 
Yeah, more or less everything 

889
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:01,800
involving those two characters 
was chopped out, but in the 

890
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,400
broadcast version there was 
quite an extended sequence with 

891
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,900
the two of them. 
Just talking to each other. 

892
00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:10,700
Yes, I'm not sure. 
I can't remember exactly how 

893
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:11,700
long. 
I'm talking as. 

894
00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:14,900
But I know that there was a 
thing to earlier to prepare and 

895
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:21,600
I think Spike messes up a line 
bear 

896
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,900
it, but I kill the joke by 
saying no light in it but we 

897
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,200
mysterious orientals. 
What? 

898
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:56,300
What is even funnier? 
I did watch an interview with 

899
00:54:56,300 --> 00:55:01,100
some with, with Harry and Spike 
and I think Harry said that some

900
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:03,300
point. 
They he really enjoyed them, 

901
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:09,200
which is nice that I get some 
love, but okay, I think spike in

902
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,500
that. 72 spike said, blood 
markers favorite? 

903
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,400
Oh yes, I think so. 
Well Echoes as well. 

904
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,700
I think he's, oh yeah, of 
course. 

905
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,100
But nothing actually read 
somewhere that that they love 

906
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:24,700
Mark was partially based on a 
very friendly General that they 

907
00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:28,100
had in the concert party. 
Yes. 

908
00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:31,100
I quite supportive of them 
sellers sellers used to 

909
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:35,200
impersonate. 
Oh yeah the colonels and 

910
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,400
Generals and majors and whatnot.
So yeah I think he was a 

911
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,200
composite character based on 
characters that real life 

912
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,000
characters are dead encountered.
Yeah. 

913
00:55:44,900 --> 00:55:48,400
Now, we're getting to towards 
the end of the show and it's, I 

914
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,900
mean, there's, there's no, 
there's no plot really is there.

915
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,500
Now, the string has been 
forgotten about more or less 

916
00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:59,400
along, but there's the there's, 
there's possibly the most for 

917
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,200
this show. 
Possibly the most infamous 

918
00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:06,400
alteration to the script, which 
is when they're talking about a,

919
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:12,500
the house number look, the 
number of the house is 66 fairy 

920
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:18,500
cake Lane. 
I'm just old houses without a 

921
00:56:18,508 --> 00:56:22,700
dress. 
Wait, 66 fairy cake lady, that's

922
00:56:22,700 --> 00:56:27,900
where he can live and seekin in 
the script, the original script 

923
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:32,200
is written seeking says, look, 
the number of the house is 66 

924
00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:38,300
menja Lane. 
Okay, I, right. 

925
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,400
And by all accounts, Tom Ronald 
insisted that, that be changed. 

926
00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:47,000
T' and I don't know who decided,
but they just, they did change 

927
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,300
it to 66 berry cake Lane. 
I know and you could just hear 

928
00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:53,200
the disbelief in like, Peter 
Sellers voice. 

929
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,800
When he says it has blood, lots 
of 66k claim that's been 

930
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,800
changed. 
I just wonder and that maybe 

931
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,900
this is overthinking it, but no,
there's no maybe about it. 

932
00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:09,000
I'm overthinking about who 
decided on fairy cake because it

933
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,500
is either comically serious like
that. 

934
00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:15,700
Who have educate put it in or 
Spike when You won't the 

935
00:57:15,700 --> 00:57:18,100
sanitizers you want. 
Then I'm going to put the most 

936
00:57:18,500 --> 00:57:21,400
sweet. 
Flowery inoffensive name 

937
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,200
possible and it's going to be 
ridiculous. 

938
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,300
It could be either one, you're 
probably right. 

939
00:57:26,300 --> 00:57:27,700
It's just, it's just the 
reaction. 

940
00:57:27,700 --> 00:57:29,500
It's almost like, it's the first
time they've read. 

941
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,400
Oh, yeah, I wouldn't be 
surprised if they, if they read 

942
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,800
them in July in the rehearsal 
and then they cook, you just 

943
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,200
scribbled over in between and 
then recording, I know, 

944
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,200
obviously Mendoza's one-way 
room, it was like equal also 

945
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,400
being Amina because if that's 
quite noisy, thick clay, could 

946
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,200
be the real. 
See the route of own is the 

947
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,100
funny one. 
So I'm assuming is the former 

948
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:56,200
rather than the last the real. 
It's just it's an interesting 

949
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,600
model because it's obviously 
been kept. 

950
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,500
That little bit of slight 
departure from the script by 

951
00:58:00,500 --> 00:58:04,300
them sort of reacting to it. 
It's a nice little sort of 

952
00:58:04,300 --> 00:58:05,800
artifact of. 
Oh yeah. 

953
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,000
I'll I just love any any time 
where they mess up as my 

954
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:14,100
subscript or just laugh or just 
corpse during a thing or like 

955
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:16,300
lose. 
Lose the page of the script and 

956
00:58:16,300 --> 00:58:18,200
one of them says in character 
this page five. 

957
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:20,800
Yeah. 
I'm just love all of that. 

958
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:22,200
Definitely. 
Absolutely. 

959
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:24,700
And then, of course we can we 
get to the payoff for the end. 

960
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:27,600
And there isn't really a proper 
end, as the never tends to be 

961
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,200
many shows and series 8 ended 
with variations of the line. 

962
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,500
It's all in the mind. 
All of the lines, you know? 

963
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,300
Yeah, which is, which is 
essentially what Quran says and 

964
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:39,600
we have the the end. 
So it's a very intimate area 

965
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,400
screaming who wrote this script?
Yeah. 

966
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,100
Yes. 
Very Enjoyable show despite 

967
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:48,600
everything despite the 
obstacles. 

968
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,100
Yeah, it just makes it more 
rant. 

969
00:58:51,100 --> 00:58:54,700
Like the, the plot gets so 
chopped and James that it's just

970
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:58,300
kind of assess various scenes 
that do kind of run together, 

971
00:58:58,300 --> 00:59:02,100
but and just makes it more 
enjoyable in ways it's just the 

972
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:04,800
cape glorious chaos. 
Yeah. 

973
00:59:05,900 --> 00:59:10,500
You won't be surprised to know 
that Tom Ronald was swiftly 

974
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:16,500
replaced. 
Children returned to the fold 

975
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,300
to. 
Yeah, Buhdeuce most of the 

976
00:59:18,308 --> 00:59:20,800
remaining episodes. 
I wonder whether it was a 

977
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,000
whether it was Spike and the 
others putting their foot down, 

978
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,700
or whether he just went, I'm not
doing this anymore. 

979
00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:29,900
Well I can't imagine I can't 
imagine that. 

980
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,900
It would have been a 
particularly harmonious Sunday 

981
00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:36,800
recording session. 
No, no Milligan and sellers, 

982
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:41,200
particularly can imagine them 
both being pretty hostile tone. 

983
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,000
Yeah, Milligan particularly for 
sure and if Tom Wasn't the fan 

984
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,300
of the show, anyway, then it's 
kind of been Pleasant. 

985
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,800
Why are you here? 
So money. 

986
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,000
Thank you very much. 
Obviously, we've kind of talked 

987
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,800
about the string of robberies. 
Yeah, it around about way, and 

988
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,000
we've looked at all the cuts and
whatnot. 

989
01:00:01,900 --> 01:00:05,400
Is there anything else about the
show of going to show itself 

990
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,500
that you want to bring up what 
looks like? 

991
01:00:08,500 --> 01:00:11,900
It's just, it's interesting, 
being a young, a younger going 

992
01:00:11,900 --> 01:00:16,000
fast because I know, Especially 
when Jane Milligan was, okay? 

993
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,500
Mon this podcast and talking 
about how spikes on been fading 

994
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:22,900
out of Iraq. 
The consciousness of side, 

995
01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:23,700
obviously. 
Yeah. 

996
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:28,000
You see things just out in the 
general Zeitgeist, like people 

997
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,900
saying the dreaded luggy, or 
even like calling covid. 

998
01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:34,200
The dreaded like, you know, 
become or just various illnesses

999
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:39,000
and like how I know there's 
arguing about whether or not it 

1000
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,400
existed as a phrase before the 
goons or whether they're like, 

1001
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:43,700
you know, it's like as an army 
bit of saying. 

1002
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:47,600
But the fact is that, I think I 
have spoken to some people, some

1003
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,200
online friends who live in 
America and Canada, and they 

1004
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,300
bury their their, their parents 
say, they got the luggage and 

1005
01:00:55,300 --> 01:00:56,600
they've never heard of the 
couch. 

1006
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,000
I've heard of some people 
saying, I've heard my parents 

1007
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,600
say something, you know, it's 
like it's rather impressive but 

1008
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:07,100
also the being a younger thing. 
I always want to talk to People 

1009
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:10,400
about my own age kind of, you 
know, and it's surprising. 

1010
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,300
Actually, I have mentioned a 
couple people, the goons and 

1011
01:01:13,300 --> 01:01:15,600
they have heard of them or like,
you know, the go know. 

1012
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,400
My granddad used to listen to 
that, I know who they are, and 

1013
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,600
it's just funny that like, I 
don't think it's dying. 

1014
01:01:22,300 --> 01:01:25,300
Obviously, you know, amongst 
like the popular use, you know, 

1015
01:01:25,300 --> 01:01:28,800
like you know the ones. 
Yeah, except I get off my Lord 

1016
01:01:28,900 --> 01:01:32,200
but like, but you know, I don't 
feel that they know but, you 

1017
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,400
know, there's there are people 
who still know about it. 

1018
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,700
And I've ended up introducing 
some people. 

1019
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,500
Like, I know some people, some 
friends online, who live in 

1020
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:44,100
America and and I mentioned the 
games to them and there are 

1021
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:46,900
already fans of old Hollywood. 
Like we, you know, that we just 

1022
01:01:46,900 --> 01:01:49,800
discuss like more Hardy and, 
like a Bob Hope. 

1023
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,200
And, you know, all that kind of,
you know, do all those kind of 

1024
01:01:52,207 --> 01:01:55,900
people and they tell me they'll 
hate me for saying Bob Hope, but

1025
01:01:55,900 --> 01:01:59,700
anyway. 
Um, but yeah, other than 

1026
01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:02,200
American, more American Centric,
I mentioned the goons and a 

1027
01:02:02,207 --> 01:02:05,000
couple of them, listen to it and
now they're like drawing fan art

1028
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,200
of it. 
They love - And Moriarty 

1029
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:12,300
especially like you'd expect 
them to love blue bottle well 

1030
01:02:12,300 --> 01:02:15,900
and but the Echols Neddy and 
Moriarty are their favorites. 

1031
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:19,000
They love them and they said 
they draw found out. 

1032
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,700
They just kind of we just talked
about it and like make up silly 

1033
01:02:22,700 --> 01:02:27,100
ideas and like it just it's just
so I was trying kind of keep the

1034
01:02:27,100 --> 01:02:29,500
Legacy going is as smooth as I 
can. 

1035
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:30,600
That's amazing. 
That's great. 

1036
01:02:30,900 --> 01:02:33,000
You keeping your fighting the 
good fight. 

1037
01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:34,900
Yeah. 
And I'm also looking forward to 

1038
01:02:34,908 --> 01:02:38,100
seeing Spike the play. 
Since I wasn't able to see at 

1039
01:02:38,100 --> 01:02:40,200
the water mill. 
And now I'm so I'm gonna go and 

1040
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,200
see that when it comes to 
Salisbury because it's the 

1041
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,400
closest are coming. 
I'm going to be probably the 

1042
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,600
youngest person in the audience 
and the person who's most 

1043
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:52,600
enthusiastic. 
But, yes, and look, I'm really 

1044
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,500
glad that you are as I say, you 
know, as you say spreading the 

1045
01:02:55,500 --> 01:02:58,900
word and introducing it to new 
generations and your own in your

1046
01:02:58,900 --> 01:03:01,600
own way, your own small way, 
just like this podcast. 

1047
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,600
And I do think is, is hopefully 
maybe going to pick up a few new

1048
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,200
fans of Yeah, I mean that's my 
biscuit. 

1049
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,200
Our reason why I started 
listening to him again because I

1050
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,300
found your book. 
Oscars is really good. 

1051
01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:15,500
It's not like you know you know 
there are some what cut out 

1052
01:03:15,500 --> 01:03:17,600
there where it's all just u5. 
No. 

1053
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,000
You tweeted about it. 
There's some people who have no 

1054
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,300
idea what they're talking about 
just kind of just blathering on 

1055
01:03:22,300 --> 01:03:24,900
about, you know, having what 
something for the first time and

1056
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:27,100
going. 
Oh, I hate, I listen to a lot of

1057
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:31,200
podcasts as I'm sure you do. 
If I hear one, where it's 

1058
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,400
generally tends to be a group of
men, not, this doesn't have to 

1059
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,400
be younger men. 
It can be No, how many men with 

1060
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,400
beards having AIDS and if they 
talk about a movie and it will 

1061
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:47,700
be an hour of them basically 
just going and what's you know? 

1062
01:03:47,700 --> 01:03:51,500
And he said this and and I 
didn't understand why he said 

1063
01:03:51,500 --> 01:03:53,700
that and why did he do that? 
And what's all that about? 

1064
01:03:53,700 --> 01:03:55,800
What the hell's that mean it 
looks old? 

1065
01:03:56,700 --> 01:04:04,000
Yeah and it was so slow and it's
off Molly. 

1066
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,600
It's been really enjoyable 
really good to have You on the 

1067
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,900
show, someone who is liked by 
your own admission. 

1068
01:04:10,900 --> 01:04:13,700
You know, you certainly didn't 
grow up listening to the goons 

1069
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:17,900
first time around and you 
haven't heard them all but you 

1070
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,600
came across the by accident and 
you are helping to keep them 

1071
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:22,900
alive. 
Yeah. 

1072
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:26,800
I just think that that is 
wonderful, Your Enthusiasm 

1073
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,500
shines through, and it's been a 
real pleasure having you on 

1074
01:04:30,500 --> 01:04:33,300
today. 
It's been, it's been lovely to 

1075
01:04:33,300 --> 01:04:36,600
be on the first ever broadcast 
their focus episodes. 

1076
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,100
To be, it'll be fun. 
This is your first podcast that 

1077
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:42,100
you've done probably by this 
time. 

1078
01:04:42,100 --> 01:04:45,500
Next year, you'll have your own 
podcast and tell me how it 

1079
01:04:45,500 --> 01:04:47,700
works. 
Thanks again to money. 

1080
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:51,600
Thank you for listening. 
Please rate and review on iTunes

1081
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:56,200
or to file the usual places. 
Please follow our Facebook. 

1082
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,000
We have a group of their 
gunpowder podcast about the 

1083
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:03,000
goons getting more and more 
people joining the Facebook 

1084
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,600
group which is really gratifying
as well. 

1085
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,200
So please move the more the 
merrier. 

1086
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,500
I'll be back next week with 
another episode until then take 

1087
01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:13,300
it easy. 
Enjoy the heat. 

1088
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:14,100
See you later.